#plugins-dev-chat | SCP: Secret Laboratory | Page 74

teal junco Jul 19, 2025, 7:49 PM

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yep

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 7:49 PM

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its old i think

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like probably 100 years old

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also

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if ur removing and readding same item

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itll keep same serial

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yea

teal junco Jul 19, 2025, 7:50 PM

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oh yeah ofc

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the serial tracks the item as long as it exists in any form its like the second thing i ever learned about items

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haha

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 7:50 PM

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its great code

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 7:51 PM

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teal junco the serial tracks the item as long as it exists in any form its like the second ...

you can technically

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delete item completely

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create a new item with same serial

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and youll be fine

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kek

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dont do that but it is technically possible

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 7:52 PM

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hearty shard dont do that but it is technically possible

why not

teal junco Jul 19, 2025, 7:52 PM

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it sounds fucking terrible why would anyone do that

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 7:52 PM

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upper vapor why not

well

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unless u want them to have same instance behaviour

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but then just

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 7:52 PM

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i mean if you keep the instance then yeah don't

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 7:52 PM

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dont delete the item

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kek

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oh

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i never removed try catch

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when nw fixed the error

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 7:59 PM

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so true

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:02 PM

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btw @teal junco if you remove the item from userinventory, make sure to unparent the transform

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i'd be surprised if eve's method actually worked, i guess its worth a shot

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:02 PM

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upper vapor i'd be surprised if eve's method actually worked, i guess its worth a shot

well

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it does

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kek

unique crane Jul 19, 2025, 8:03 PM

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upper vapor i'd be surprised if eve's method actually worked, i guess its worth a shot

kek

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:03 PM

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is kinda easy to test

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kek

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:03 PM

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*destroys item*
*item exists*

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What

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:04 PM

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upper vapor \*destroys item\* \*item exists\*

nw didnt destroy properly idk PI_Shrug

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:04 PM

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copium and shittium

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:04 PM

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its literally just
item.Base.ServerDropItem

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without spawning it

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:04 PM

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can we remake SL from scratch

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:04 PM

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and then Pickup.Get() the result and throw it into player.AddItem

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@unique crane get to work

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:04 PM

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day #alot of asking

unique crane Jul 19, 2025, 8:05 PM

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???

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context

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:05 PM

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unique crane context

re make the game

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make it BETTER

unique crane Jul 19, 2025, 8:05 PM

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Parts of the game are rewritten with each update

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:06 PM

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godot SL with normal SL compat layer

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:06 PM

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if you repair a ship til everything has been replaced with new parts

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is it the same ship

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i will test with these items ax

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cuz it worked last update (14.1)

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:07 PM

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vine boom

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:07 PM

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now i just

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wait a minute and a half

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:07 PM

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too much wait

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:07 PM

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i didnt actually implement an easy debug of this

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to me it looks to work

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:09 PM

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when pinv

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command

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(yes it exists)

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:09 PM

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oh

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i couldve

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just used that

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instead of

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killing

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...

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:09 PM

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yeah

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kill

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sl

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:09 PM

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ill redo test ig

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upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:10 PM

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are the items functional though

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:10 PM

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i didnt test this time

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but it has been before

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:10 PM

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i'd expect some weird behavior

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:10 PM

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well

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idk!

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cuz it just creates a pickup

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and then creates a new item

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:10 PM

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i forgor

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nvm then

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:11 PM

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 public static ItemBase ServerAddItem(
      this Inventory inv,
      ItemType type,
      ItemAddReason addReason,
      ushort itemSerial = 0,
      ItemPickupBase pickup = null)
    {
      if (!NetworkServer.active)
        throw new InvalidOperationException("Method ServerAddItem can only be executed on the server.");
      ItemBase itemBase;
      if (inv.UserInventory.Items.Count >= 8 && InventoryItemLoader.AvailableItems.TryGetValue(type, out itemBase) && itemBase.Category != ItemCategory.Ammo)
        return (ItemBase) null;
      if (itemSerial == (ushort) 0)
        itemSerial = ItemSerialGenerator.GenerateNext();
      ItemBase itemInstance = inv.CreateItemInstance(new ItemIdentifier(type, itemSerial), inv.isLocalPlayer);
      if ((UnityEngine.Object) itemInstance == (UnityEngine.Object) null)
        return (ItemBase) null;
      inv.UserInventory.Items[itemSerial] = itemInstance;
      itemInstance.ServerAddReason = addReason;
      itemInstance.OnAdded(pickup);
      Action<ReferenceHub, ItemBase, ItemPickupBase> onItemAdded = InventoryExtensions.OnItemAdded;
      if (onItemAdded != null)
        onItemAdded(inv._hub, itemInstance, pickup);
      if (inv.isLocalPlayer && itemInstance is IAcquisitionConfirmationTrigger confirmationTrigger)
      {
        confirmationTrigger.ServerConfirmAcqusition();
        confirmationTrigger.AcquisitionAlreadyReceived = true;
      }
      inv.SendItemsNextFrame = true;
      return itemInstance;
    }

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this

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it works weird

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and i had to do it weird cuz of NW

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💔

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couldnt have just given us a way to remove item without destroying

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upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:15 PM

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d_rock

unique crane Jul 19, 2025, 8:15 PM

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Tf is pinv command

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Never heard of that

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:15 PM

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preview inventory or smth

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apparently

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:15 PM

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playerinventory

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Smart

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:15 PM

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me neither til today!

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oh

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:15 PM

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or that

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idk tbh

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p inventory

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shrug

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what if it's peek

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:15 PM

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upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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hearty shard

no flashlight, no micro, no yailbird

teal junco Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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upper vapor btw <@515347503722528768> if you remove the item from userinventory, make sure t...

so wait what

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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hearty shard

omg i'm so mart

teal junco Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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i get the gameobject, and set the transform parent to null?

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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upper vapor no flashlight, no micro, no yailbird

flashlight i threw but also

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uh

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armor

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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hi mart

teal junco Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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of the item

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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is taken into account

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when adding items

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:16 PM

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right

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that's stupid and dumb

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what if you use itemaddreason remoteadmin

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:17 PM

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teal junco i get the gameobject, and set the transform parent to null?

yes

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:17 PM

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upper vapor what if you use itemaddreason remoteadmin

thats

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what i do

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:17 PM

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dyingium

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:18 PM

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honestly

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my brain is fried

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like fries are less fried

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than my brain

unique crane Jul 19, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Deep fried zero

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:18 PM

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hello zero whose brain is fried

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:18 PM

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upper vapor hello zero whose brain is fried

mine

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ruei

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it needs a degree

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:19 PM

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we're telling you to use v3!!

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:19 PM

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V3 IS NOT EVEN out

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im going insaen

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:19 PM

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celest thorn it needs a degree

°here

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:19 PM

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celest thorn V3 IS NOT EVEN out

i told you

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compile it

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Smart

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:19 PM

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bruh

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:19 PM

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you can steal the whole thing

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or parts of it

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and refactor however you like

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:20 PM

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honestly

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im going to stick with hint service

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and see if i can make the code better

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:20 PM

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miserium

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:20 PM

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like thats the best i can do

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:20 PM

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upper vapor miserium

fr

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:20 PM

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paws

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:21 PM

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i could really try

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to compile it

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:21 PM

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just do a prerelease

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:21 PM

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honestly

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im going to compile it

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lets try

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:21 PM

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celest thorn im going to compile it

it's not rocket science after all

narrow kelp Jul 19, 2025, 8:21 PM

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thissounds stupidb

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but

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h ow do i know if something is a dependency

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is it a .dll file

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like the others

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or

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:22 PM

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it just annoys me

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to compile it

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:22 PM

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narrow kelp is it a .dll file

dll files are either a plugin or a dependency

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the readme of the plugin should tell you which is which

narrow kelp Jul 19, 2025, 8:22 PM

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oh okay

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:22 PM

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like "install harmony as a dependency"

narrow kelp Jul 19, 2025, 8:24 PM

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this one doesnt say sauch but id assume labapiextensions ia dependency

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right

icy knoll Jul 19, 2025, 8:24 PM

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upper vapor like "install harmony as a dependency"

ive seen so many exiled users read smth like this and throw it in plugins

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:24 PM

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narrow kelp this one doesnt say sauch but id assume labapiextensions ia dependency

from KadavasKingdom?

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yes

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i believe so

narrow kelp Jul 19, 2025, 8:24 PM

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ok

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:25 PM

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that has no release though

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what are you trying to do

narrow kelp Jul 19, 2025, 8:25 PM

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im talking about uhh

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simplecustomroles

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bly slejumur

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by

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:26 PM

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@restive turret make installation guides!!1!1

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 8:26 PM

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heat

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 8:27 PM

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narrow kelp this one doesnt say sauch but id assume labapiextensions ia dependency

yes it is

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 8:27 PM

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narrow kelp simplecustomroles

that just plugin

narrow kelp Jul 19, 2025, 8:27 PM

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ok

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thanks goat

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 8:27 PM

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havefun

teal junco Jul 19, 2025, 8:28 PM

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icy knoll ive seen so many exiled users read smth like this and throw it in plugins

well i did the same thing bcs exiled put dependencies in plugins folder...

icy knoll Jul 19, 2025, 8:29 PM

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live laugh love exiled...

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totes

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:29 PM

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icy knoll ive seen so many exiled users read smth like this and throw it in plugins

did they read it at that point

teal junco Jul 19, 2025, 8:31 PM

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oh yeah labapi doesnt have harmony does it

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:31 PM

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nope

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 8:33 PM

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@upper vapor

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is this good?

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:34 PM

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i guess

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why don't you make releases though

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lazy?

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 8:36 PM

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yes

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:37 PM

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releases with github actions

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🤯

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 8:37 PM

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lazy

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:37 PM

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github is lazy?

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 8:37 PM

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me lazy

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i have to tag

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:37 PM

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oh well

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:38 PM

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@true cedar
[2025-07-19 20:37:53.095 +00:00] [ERROR] [LabApi] [LOADER] Couldn't enable the plugin 'RueI', Version: 3.0.0.0, Author: 'Rue <3'
[2025-07-19 20:37:53.105 +00:00] [ERROR] [LabApi] HarmonyLib.HarmonyException: Patching exception in method System.Void Hints.HintDisplay::Show(Hints.Hint hint) ---> System.Exception: Wrong null argument: call NULL

When trying to enable it

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:39 PM

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what

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:39 PM

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when i start up the server thats displaying

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:39 PM

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fix the patch

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Smart

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:39 PM

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i gues si will remove it

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just for now

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:39 PM

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right

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you can do that too

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:40 PM

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Funny enough

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HSM was lagging the server

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alot of errors

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im just going to wait

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:47 PM

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fix the errors toomuchtrolling

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 8:48 PM

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explode

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:56 PM

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@upper vapor i think ik why my code works

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:56 PM

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managed unity reference is kept in the dictionary or what

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:57 PM

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i closed rider and wont open but im 99% sure creating the pickup doesnt use a unity call other than getting the .Base

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its not trying to access smth thats destroyed inside of unity like .transform

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and ItemType and stuff isnt rly a component

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so its not destroyed

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kek

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thats my guess

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:58 PM

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um

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 8:58 PM

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chat

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:58 PM

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upper vapor um

what about it

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 8:58 PM

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i want to make a SetVisible(Tag, bool) method

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for displays

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but

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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upper vapor um

Wait, isn't pickupbase unity object?

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does == work for unity

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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@true cedar so uh

[2025-07-19 20:41:43.413 +00:00] [STDERR] at System.Linq.Enumerable.ToDictionary<System.Linq.IGrouping`2<char, System.ValueTuple`2<RueI.Utils.Collections.Trie`1/StringSlice<RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>, RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>>, char, RueI.Utils.Collections.Trie`1/RadixNode<RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>> (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1<System.Linq.IGrouping`2<char, System.ValueTuple`2<RueI.Utils.Collections.Trie`1/StringSlice<RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>, RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>>>,System.Func`2<System.Linq.IGrouping`2<char, System.ValueTuple`2<RueI.Utils.Collections.Trie`1/StringSlice<RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>, RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>>, char>,System.Func`2<System.Linq.IGrouping`2<char, System.ValueTuple`2<RueI.Utils.Collections.Trie`1/StringSlice<RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>, RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>>, RueI.Utils.Collections.Trie`1/RadixNode<RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>>) [0x00004] in <fd1d0d7d3ab340b2ac4af4d8f373b6c7>:0 [2025-07-19 20:41:43.413 +00:00] [STDERR] at RueI.Utils.Collections.Trie`1<RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>.Build (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1<System.ValueTuple`2<RueI.Utils.Collections.Trie`1/StringSlice<RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>, RueI.API.Parsing.Enums.RichTextTag>>) [0x0007a] in <a4db8c766a4640d4961e08786c594b4a>:0

it dosent like ruei and may have genned a 2gb log file

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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royal mica does == work for unity

not for checking object lifetime

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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hearty shard what about it

so
it's destroyed
but it's not actually destroyefd??

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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do i make it so that if you do like

Tag tag = new();
display.Add(tag, new BasicElement(...));
display.SetVisible(tag, false);
display.Add(tag, new BasicElement(...)); // should thi sbe visible?

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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royal mica does == work for unity

yes

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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upper vapor so it's destroyed but it's not actually destroyefd??

its not garbage collected

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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slender lynx <@244226294970056705> so uh ```[2025-07-19 20:41:43.413 +00:00] [STDERR] at S...

do NOT use v3

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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== null

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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unity destroyed the unity stuff

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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does

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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slender lynx <@244226294970056705> so uh ```[2025-07-19 20:41:43.413 +00:00] [STDERR] at S...

What the fuck is that stacktrace

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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hearty shard unity destroyed the unity stuff

its lifetime ended

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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today im going to murder someone

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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but

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 8:59 PM

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i fixed that but

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v3 is not like

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server ready at all

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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...

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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is there like

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any way

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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im just pushing stuff so people can see what it will look like

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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you can push a prerelease

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with that fixed

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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ig

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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ur the best

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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but it has a lot of annoying logs

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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slender lynx <@244226294970056705> so uh ```[2025-07-19 20:41:43.413 +00:00] [STDERR] at S...

hollow

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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thats fine

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i just need a vers

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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true cedar but it has a lot of annoying logs

i will manually remove them

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idc

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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ahh dependency errors blobsunglasses

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:00 PM

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true cedar do i make it so that if you do like ```csharp Tag tag = new(); display.Add(tag, ...

anyways

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someone answer

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:01 PM

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hearty shard unity destroyed the unity stuff

then you should get true for ipb == null, no?

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idk what happens before the end of frame

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:01 PM

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upper vapor then you should get `true` for `ipb == null`, no?

That is what I asked, cause Rider warns about Unity objects

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:01 PM

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it probably still "exists" if you do that before the frame ends

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 9:01 PM

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true cedar do i make it so that if you do like ```csharp Tag tag = new(); display.Add(tag, ...

i guess its useful

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:01 PM

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that it should be if (ibp) and not if (ibp == null)

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:01 PM

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royal mica does == work for unity

TLDR

You can check null since its not a unity object, its literally non existent entirely
you cannot use == null to check if a unity object is usable tho, only if it is a reference

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:01 PM

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royal mica that it should be `if (ibp)` and not `if (ibp == null)`

same thing

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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upper vapor same thing

Actually no

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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upper vapor then you should get `true` for `ipb == null`, no?

no ?

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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C# does not have truthy values

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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guys

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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yes it does

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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so it cannot be same

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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lol

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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unity overloads ==

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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you can overload it

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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and implicit operators

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:02 PM

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upper vapor unity overloads ==

yes but

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== null isnt

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true

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if it isnt null

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:03 PM

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royal mica that it should be `if (ibp)` and not `if (ibp == null)`

if you're using nullable and the member you're checking isn't marked as nullable then it will complain yeah
if (obj) is the same as a null check

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:03 PM

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Then why doesn't if (something) work for others

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:03 PM

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because you can override it

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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/operators/true-false-operators

true and false operators - treat objects as Boolean values - C# ref...

Learn about the C# true and false operators. Overload these operators to treat your type as a Boolean value

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:03 PM

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royal mica Then why doesn't `if (something)` work for others

unity does this overload

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:03 PM

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true cedar because you can override it

That does not explain why it does not allow to use it on other things

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:03 PM

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royal mica That does not explain why it does not allow to use it on other things

because whatever ur doing it on hasnt done the == override

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:04 PM

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royal mica Then why doesn't `if (something)` work for others

implicit operator bool

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:04 PM

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no, it's not the == override

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:04 PM

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OH

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i misunderstood

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yea you need to implicitly turn it into a bool

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:04 PM

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hearty shard if it isnt null

#plugins-dev-chat message

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:04 PM

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upper vapor https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1274617943258566726/139623554237...

yea

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:04 PM

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oh yea it is implicit conersion to bool

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thats dumb

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:05 PM

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WeirdChamp

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:05 PM

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check for destroyCancellationToken i guess

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:05 PM

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royal mica <:WeirdChamp:810269461818376194>

oh my god

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:05 PM

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royal mica <:WeirdChamp:810269461818376194>

unity

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has

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implicit operator bool for Object

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that does a check for null under the hood

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:05 PM

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@hearty shard EVE

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:06 PM

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royal mica <:WeirdChamp:810269461818376194>

because you need to create that

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:06 PM

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other classes don't have this operator

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:06 PM

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what do you want

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 9:06 PM

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@true cedar thx

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:06 PM

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#plugins-dev-chat message

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:06 PM

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sure

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idk

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go ahead

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i usually just return empty string or would remove it

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:07 PM

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yea but if you want to implement screens

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:07 PM

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i'd expect all tags to be invisible if you say "set tag visible to false"

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all e3quivalent tags

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 9:07 PM

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true cedar yea but if you want to implement screens

the what

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:07 PM

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upper vapor i'd expect all tags to be invisible if you say "set tag visible to false"

yea ig

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i just don't want people thinking that it would make it visible

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when they show an element

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:07 PM

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wha

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:08 PM

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like

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if you set a tag to be not visible

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and then add an element with that tag

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i don't want people to think it makes the tag visible

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:08 PM

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rename tag to CssClass

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toomuchtrolling

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:08 PM

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screams

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:08 PM

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omg

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imagine

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CSS hint framework

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:09 PM

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id ratehr blow my head off

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:09 PM

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when you need an element to expand to the remaining space

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you're gonna miss CSS

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:09 PM

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<align=flush>

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:11 PM

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i hate that

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justify or flush

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we could run PWAs in SL

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on hints

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except no interactivity

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:14 PM

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just run electron

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:15 PM

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royal mica just run electron

hell no

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:15 PM

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can we have nodejs admintoy please

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:15 PM

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i'll make my own js engine

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toomuchtrolling

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:15 PM

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I want to run my vercel webapp in SCPSL

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:15 PM

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royal mica can we have nodejs admintoy please

at that point

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bun

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:15 PM

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also an nginx as well please

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:16 PM

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royal mica also an nginx as well please

don't forget cloudflare

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:16 PM

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"sorry lightbulb SCP disabled my cloudflare item, 5 sec"

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:16 PM

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xDDDDDD

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"please hang tight as we solve the DDoS caused by SCP-079"

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:18 PM

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"Can you call a sysadmin to reboot the server?"
"Uhh, wait lemme playerlist. Oh I see a scientist, lemme pbc them to pickup and throw the server object in heavy"

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:18 PM

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skullbutreal

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:18 PM

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5 minutes lates

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WHO THE FUCK DROPPED NGINX ITEM IN POCKET DIMENSION AND WHY

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NOW 6 OUT OF 8 PACKETS ARE KILLED

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:19 PM

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it'll drop out of pocket after some time

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:19 PM

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I already dropped out dogkek

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:19 PM

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of egyetem?

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:19 PM

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ofc

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:20 PM

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yayayayaya

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:20 PM

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ELTE made me want to undo exist

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:20 PM

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noooo

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zad

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:20 PM

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dimat is more zad

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:20 PM

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what

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ah

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um

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https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-cat-in-front-of-sea-gif-16930437336998530733

Tenor

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:21 PM

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I would say my mental health is better now that I left that hellhole, but I destroyed the current one myself

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oops

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:21 PM

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what

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are you yappin

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:21 PM

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uhh

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something something alcohol?

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:22 PM

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bladefacepalm

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 9:22 PM

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ok back to cs2

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@grok can I play cs2 in vim

upper vapor Jul 19, 2025, 9:22 PM

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css2

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😭

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 9:44 PM

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I tried again ruei v3 but no update this time like it does one time and never again

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(update interval exist)

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@true cedar

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:45 PM

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huh

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 9:46 PM

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🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀

NotZer0Two

s75riilf.png 🐀

Check out this new 🐀

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it does this

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never ever again

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                element = new DynamicElement(instance.Position.y, instance.OnInternalRender)
                {
                    UpdateInterval = TimeSpan.FromSeconds(0.1f)
                };

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:47 PM

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oh it prob errored

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 9:47 PM

#

true cedar oh it prob errored

[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. Key: CloseAlign
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].TryInsert (TKey key, TValue value, System.Collections.Generic.InsertionBehavior behavior) [0x000dd] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].Add (TKey key, TValue value) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Parsing.Parser..cctor () [0x0019f] in <d6ff54a2e2e24206b9355ee3babb6bc5>:0
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT] Rethrow as TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'RueI.API.Parsing.Parser' threw an exception.
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Elements.DynamicElement.GetParsedData (ReferenceHub hub) [0x0000c] in <d6ff54a2e2e24206b9355ee3babb6bc5>:0
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Parsing.ElementCombiner.Combine (ReferenceHub hub, System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] elements) [0x000af] in <d6ff54a2e2e24206b9355ee3babb6bc5>:0
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Display.FrameUpdate () [0x00057] in <d6ff54a2e2e24206b9355ee3babb6bc5>:0
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Display.CheckDisplays () [0x000a0] in <d6ff54a2e2e24206b9355ee3babb6bc5>:0
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at (wrapper delegate-invoke) <Module>.invoke_void()
[2025-07-19 21:44:14.193 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at StaticUnityMethods.Update () [0x00009] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 9:48 PM

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yea i fixed that

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gimme a sec

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 9:48 PM

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don't worry

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 9:48 PM

#

SteamHappy

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 10:23 PM

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@true cedar any updates

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no rush btw i just wanna know if we should start trying to fix some stuff or not

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 10:23 PM

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i pushed it

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 10:25 PM

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neat

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 10:28 PM

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royal mica something something alcohol?

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 10:36 PM

#

restive turret

no

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 10:37 PM

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royal mica no

Whta is fhat

royal mica Jul 19, 2025, 10:37 PM

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This is Hungary on January 1st

restive turret Jul 19, 2025, 10:37 PM

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Lel

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 10:57 PM

#

true cedar i pushed it

[2025-07-19 22:38:37.854 +00:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Specified argument was out of the range of valid values.
[2025-07-19 22:38:37.854 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Parsing.ElementCombiner.SplitUntil[T] (System.ReadOnlySpan`1[T]& span, System.Int32 position) [0x00021] in <10b99966c13b4bfabd709b11ed3ee9fc>:0
[2025-07-19 22:38:37.854 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Parsing.ElementCombiner.Combine (ReferenceHub hub, System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] elements) [0x00303] in <10b99966c13b4bfabd709b11ed3ee9fc>:0
[2025-07-19 22:38:37.854 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Display.FrameUpdate () [0x00057] in <10b99966c13b4bfabd709b11ed3ee9fc>:0
[2025-07-19 22:38:37.854 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at RueI.API.Display.CheckDisplays () [0x000a0] in <10b99966c13b4bfabd709b11ed3ee9fc>:0
[2025-07-19 22:38:37.854 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at (wrapper delegate-invoke) <Module>.invoke_void()
[2025-07-19 22:38:37.854 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at StaticUnityMethods.Update () [0x00009] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0

heads up for some other issues, that we found

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 10:57 PM

#

celest thorn ```c# [2025-07-19 22:38:37.854 +00:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Spe...

what does it log before

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 10:58 PM

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nothing but after

#

it does log something

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 10:58 PM

#

?

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 10:58 PM

#

📎 message.txt

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 10:58 PM

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true cedar ?

before the update that error is logged

#

but the update never reaches the point of sending it

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it never sends the hint

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 10:58 PM

#

celest thorn

is this before the error

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 10:59 PM

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true cedar is this before the error

this is after

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the error

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 10:59 PM

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whats the text that it errors on

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 10:59 PM

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idk

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 10:59 PM

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no clue

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it just throws it

#

thats the first thing it logs

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 10:59 PM

#

um

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 10:59 PM

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but never actually sends it

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like it doesn't reach the point of sending the message to the hub

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:00 PM

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well yea

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if it errors it'll dothat

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if u get the text that it errors on

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that'd be extremely helpful

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:00 PM

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ok i will try

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to like disable everything

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:05 PM

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true cedar that'd be extremely helpful

it does it in any case

#

if you want we can go on the https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1274618891703685151

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:05 PM

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huh

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nah i have a headache i dont feel like vc'ing

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 11:06 PM

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always throws

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:06 PM

#

without any elements?

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 11:06 PM

#

hi paws

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:06 PM

#

BE QUIET.

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:06 PM

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true cedar without any elements?

let me test

hearty shard Jul 19, 2025, 11:06 PM

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wow i see how it is

#

first u break ruei and now u tell me to shush

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:08 PM

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true cedar BE QUIET.

with no elements it doesn't do anything no error

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:08 PM

#

well then what element causes it T_T

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 11:08 PM

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we gotta test each one

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(14 of them)

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:08 PM

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can u send me the text

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i can prob tell which one would cause it maybe

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:09 PM

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yea

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i narrow it down probably to one

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but not sure

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<b><size=30>Loading...</size></b>\n\n\n<b><size=40>Test</b></size>

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:10 PM

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thats prob not it

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:10 PM

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nope

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its not

#

it throws it in any case

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like with everything

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i tried with something else totally unrelated and it throws it

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:10 PM

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huh

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it cant be any case

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:11 PM

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let me try with a static message ig

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:15 PM

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true cedar it cant be any case

Static works

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but i think dynamic cause that issue

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:16 PM

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i think its ur text

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:16 PM

#

    public override string Name { get; set; } = "Hi";
    public override string Text { get; set; } = "Hi";
    public override Vector2 Position { get; set; } = new Vector2(0, 0);
    public override bool IsDefault { get; set; } = true;
    public override int Size { get; set; } = 20;
    public override bool UseAspectRatio { get; set; }

#

this is the one i tested and worked

#

my text is fine

#

        StringBuilder sb = new StringBuilder()
            .SetSize(Size, MeasurementUnit.Percentage)
            .SetHorizontalPos(Position.x);
        
        sb.Append("  <b><size=30>Loading...</size></b>\n\n\n<b><size=40>Test</b></size>");
        
        return sb.ToString();

#

this is what am i doing for all of them

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:17 PM

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are you doing the use aspect ratio

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:17 PM

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no

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im not even using it

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:19 PM

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ill take a look ig

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:19 PM

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ok

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:29 PM

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celest thorn ok

yeea i cant replicate it

#

did u make any other changes

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:29 PM

#

true cedar did u make any other changes

no

#

idk try to send me your version

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 11:42 PM

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true cedar yeea i cant replicate it

whatever vers you have might have some changed stuff

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:44 PM

#

uh oh

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 11:45 PM

#

thats not a good sign

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:46 PM

#

something works differently than how i thought it worked and um

#

in simple terms FUCK MY LIFE

slender lynx Jul 19, 2025, 11:52 PM

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its so over

true cedar Jul 19, 2025, 11:56 PM

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this is actually

#

ughhhhh

celest thorn Jul 19, 2025, 11:59 PM

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So sad

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 12:04 AM

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So uh

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How tf do I check keycard permissions for a pickup

#

Like access levels and shi

#

Oh nvm

#

Wait

#

Huh

#

Is there no way to get the access levels for a keycard?

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 12:43 AM

#

I can get the door provider and match it against different doors

#

ATP I may just find a way to make fake door permission requesters so I can check individual permissions and pinpoint it lmao

#

Wtf

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:03 AM

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This is so peak

#

#

I love SL

true cedar Jul 20, 2025, 1:12 AM

#

slate flume This is so peak

ummmmmm

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:13 AM

#

true cedar ummmmmm

Do you have

#

Any better ideas?

true cedar Jul 20, 2025, 1:13 AM

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im psure theres a way to do it

#

but they reworked the keycard system

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:13 AM

#

GoodOne

#

I have no idea how to do it

#

Generally if no one responds after an hour or two I just do hacky fixes like that

#

I've got priorities

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:37 AM

#

Also

#

Is bullet inaccuracy and spread calculated by the client or the server?

#

I'd have to imagine the server

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:38 AM

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Client

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:38 AM

#

WHAT

#

That's wild to me

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:38 AM

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How would the client get spread if it has to wait for the server's response

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:38 AM

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Doesn't that just make it more susceptible to cheaters?

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:38 AM

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Cheaters already aimbot

#

Doesn't matter

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:39 AM

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I would imagine being able to make a shotgun beam you with 12 headshots anywhere on the map is a little busted, no?

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:39 AM

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Valve did have the inaccuracy/spread be server sided for CSGO but reverted to clientsided for CS2 because it felt like shit to normal players and cheaters be cheating anyway

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:39 AM

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slate flume I would imagine being able to make a shotgun beam you with 12 headshots anywhere...

Wdym anywhere on the map

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:39 AM

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Like surface

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:39 AM

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They'll just beam you down with any automatic anyway

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:40 AM

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You're on one end of surface and a guy at the other end shoots one shot from a shotgun and kills you

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:40 AM

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Although im p sure shotguns have a set pattern

#

Shotgun, automatic aimed to your head, won't matter

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:41 AM

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Yeah but at least if you controlled spread server-side you could avoid no spread hacks making cheaters even more busted

#

Though tbf I've seen cheaters straight up client-side clip through walls and pick up items

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:41 AM

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They're already busted

#

You're just making the experience worse for normal players

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:41 AM

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It's not like SL has good anti-cheat lmao

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:41 AM

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Anticheat or not

#

Cheaters will cheat

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:41 AM

#

Fs

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:41 AM

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Don't make the game feel like shit for normal players to try and catch cheaters

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:42 AM

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Well idk I just imagined that something like spread wouldn't be a big deal to do server-side

#

Especially for a casual game like SL

#

Besides handling server-side would allow us to modify spread ourselves which would be dope

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:42 AM

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Sweet now your bullets you see dont match what the server does

#

Or they are delayed by your ping

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:43 AM

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Just do server confirmation

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:43 AM

#

To what point

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:43 AM

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Run code client-side and if it checks out with the server then send it

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:44 AM

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Cool you just invented shooting netcode from most games :p

#

There's really no point

#

Valve undid it for good reasons

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:44 AM

#

But don't like

#

Half of all games do spread server-side

#

Client shows a predicted spread

#

Server validates

#

It prevents no-spread cheats

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:46 AM

#

That's what CS2 does

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:46 AM

#

That's what I'm saying

#

Just do that bro

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:46 AM

#

Which stops nothing because if they're able to predict inaccuracy, they can undo it by changing the camera position for the shot

#

which equates to no spread

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:47 AM

#

OOHHH you right for that

#

I was thinking shotguns

#

Because even if one pellet hits it doesn't matter because the rest won't

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:47 AM

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Set pattern for SL afaik, dunno how they validate hitreg for it, would have to check the code

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:47 AM

#

Relying on client-side for that means you can make all pellets from one shot hit regardless of distance

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:47 AM

#

Depends on how the game implements it

#

Haven't fully checked SL

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:48 AM

#

I just wanna be able to modify guns 🤷🏼

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:48 AM

#

You'd probs need clientside mods

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:48 AM

#

I like handling stuff server-side so I can

#

Exactly

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:48 AM

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SL's not made with that in mind

#

LULLLLLL

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:49 AM

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I'll rip and tear

#

Like that one song from the Doom soundtrack

#

https://open.spotify.com/track/5soMJpcVhSrGrB4prvPL6P?si=a0926fac3d8949f2

Spotify

Rip & Tear

grand flower Jul 20, 2025, 1:50 AM

#

Have fun

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 1:50 AM

#

cooked

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 6:09 AM

#

        StringBuilder sb = new StringBuilder()
            .SetHorizontalPos(Position.x)
            .SetSize(Size);
        
        sb.Append(OnRender(hub));

        sb.CloseHorizontalPos();
        sb.CloseSize();

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upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:02 AM

#

slate flume Well idk I just imagined that something like spread wouldn't be a big deal to do...

Are you talking about bullet inaccuracy?

#

You can change that on the server

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:03 AM

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celest thorn ```c# StringBuilder sb = new StringBuilder() .SetHorizontalP...

What

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:03 AM

#

upper vapor What

??

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:04 AM

#

What are you saying

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:04 AM

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you can see by the screenshot only one line is moving

#

but in theory everyone should

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:04 AM

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Are they different elements

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:04 AM

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upper vapor Are they different elements

no.

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same element

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:04 AM

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AFAIK pos only works for one line

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:05 AM

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what should i do then?

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what should i use?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:05 AM

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Indent

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:05 AM

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which one?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:05 AM

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Indent

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Not line indent

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:06 AM

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oh indent

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ok

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let me try it

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the only problem im now thinking is vertical offset

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i need to check if it works

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im going to cry

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it works

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finally

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finally

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3 hours

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from yesterday night to today

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and in all of this tps never got lower of 60/60

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so it was meow

#

:3

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:16 AM

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YIPPEE

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:17 AM

#

if rue wants i found the issue for the hint exploding when dynamic

#

she made an error on the position

#

i've seen some errors around the src

#

and now it works :3

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:18 AM

#

at paws

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or PR

#

Smart

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:18 AM

#

Ig

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For now im trying to remake every ui element

#

And everything working again

#

But thats easy

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:18 AM

#

gandalfnod1 gandalfnod2

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:19 AM

#

I just need to re enable everything and fix their position

#

Or else figuring out how i can calculate the voffset

#

By how meow was doing it

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:19 AM

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use the ruei position

#

shrug

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:19 AM

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upper vapor use the ruei position

It kinda doesn’t work

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:19 AM

#

bruh

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:19 AM

#

Like i set the float

#

But nope

#

Voffset works tho

#

So i might check whats going on there

#

It seems to be working

#

Because it is correct

#

I just think i need to invert it

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:21 AM

#

yea positive is up

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:21 AM

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No thats correct

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:22 AM

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unlike in almost every other UI lib

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:22 AM

#

But meow did a breaking change

#

That made it calculated in another way

#

For up before i wrote 1050 now i need to write 150

#

Don’t ask me how

#

Or why

#

1000 is the max ig

#

For ruei?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:25 AM

#

yes it says it right there

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:26 AM

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upper vapor yes it says it right there

yes that was the reason

#

150

#

was too low

#

btw im amazed on how optimize this shit is

#

lol

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:27 AM

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you better be using stringbuilderpool

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:27 AM

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before the server like exploded everytime it loaded a player

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:27 AM

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upper vapor you better be using stringbuilderpool

im using normal stringbuilder

#

but for now its just testing and messing

#

im planning to change

#

and use stringbuilder everywhere

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:28 AM

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upper vapor you better be using stringbuilderpool

but why pools?

#

creating a new stringbuilder is so heavy?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:28 AM

#

yes

#

it reduces allocations and GC time

#

and it's a two-line change wherever you wanna use it

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:30 AM

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upper vapor and it's a two-line change wherever you wanna use it

public string OnInternalRender(ReferenceHub hub)
    {
        StringBuilder sb = StringBuilderPool.Shared.Rent()
            .SetIndent(Position.x)
            //.SetVOffset(Position.y)
            .SetSize(Size);
        
        sb.Append(OnRender(hub));

        sb.CloseIndent();
        //sb.CloseVOffset();
        sb.CloseSize();
        
        return StringBuilderPool.Shared.ToStringReturn(sb);
    }

Like this

#

im going to add as an arg to render

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:30 AM

#

yes

#

yes

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:30 AM

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the stringbuilder

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and just use that

#

im going to cry in a corner this shit works

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:30 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

Tenor

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:31 AM

#

finally i see 60/60

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and not 59/60

#

i can rest in peace

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:31 AM

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celest thorn i can rest in peace

you say that every time

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:31 AM

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upper vapor you say that every time

i don't think i need to return the stringbuilder

#

i can just return void

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:31 AM

#

at some point return it

#

after you've built the whole thing

#

the whole ruei element

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:32 AM

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upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:32 AM

#

yassss

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:34 AM

#

im gonna be honest v3 is easier to use

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i understand more using v3

#

than the code of v2

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:34 AM

#

me when Roles

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:35 AM

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upper vapor me when `Roles`

me when i can just do Display.Get(Player).Add

#

instead of crying in a corner and saving each element

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:35 AM

#

kekw

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:35 AM

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from meow's code to ruei

#

i saved like 100 lines

#

just saying

random scaffold Jul 20, 2025, 7:36 AM

#

why this stupid game trying find location on the same door?

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:36 AM

#

random scaffold why this stupid game trying find location on the same door?

for what?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:36 AM

#

random scaffold why this stupid game trying find location on the same door?

0 context

random scaffold Jul 20, 2025, 7:37 AM

#

celest thorn for what?

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Scp106PocketItemManager), nameof(Scp106PocketItemManager.IsInPocketDimension))]

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:37 AM

#

random scaffold [HarmonyPatch(typeof(Scp106PocketItemManager), nameof(Scp106PocketItemManager.Is...

still not enough context

#

code.

#

what are you doing

#

like

random scaffold Jul 20, 2025, 7:37 AM

#

protect bounds

#

around custom door

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:38 AM

#

wdym

#

by protect bounds

#

and can you show code

random scaffold Jul 20, 2025, 7:38 AM

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protect the door, which is designed to allow players to move around, from selecting items from Scp106 to spawn

#

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:39 AM

#

you're patching the wrong method

random scaffold Jul 20, 2025, 7:40 AM

#

upper vapor you're patching the wrong method

then which?

#

i dont wanna use transpiler

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:41 AM

#

c*dm*d moment

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:43 AM

#

random scaffold then which?

nvm that's correct

#

i don't see where it checks doors though

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:44 AM

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10 stuff to fix still

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Im going to cry

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the hardest

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is gone :3

unique crane Jul 20, 2025, 7:52 AM

#

celest thorn is gone :3

Nice

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:52 AM

#

dmed rue

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:52 AM

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upper vapor You can change that on the server

:O that's cool

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:52 AM

#

with the fix for the problem of yesterday

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:52 AM

#

slate flume :O that's cool

There's a parameter

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:52 AM

#

slate flume :O that's cool

you can have perfectly accurate or perfectly shit guns

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:53 AM

#

That's beautiful

#

Can you change running accuracy and shit?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:53 AM

#

RunningInaccuracy and AdsInaccuracy params i believe

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:53 AM

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WOAH

#

Dope

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:53 AM

#

the first one may be named BulletInaccuracy

#

i don't rember

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:53 AM

#

I'm writing that in my notes for later

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:53 AM

#

btw hii david

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:54 AM

#

While there are a bunch of devs here, I want to ask, what layer mask should I use to Raycast without hitting players?

unique crane Jul 20, 2025, 7:54 AM

#

haiii

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:54 AM

#

no debug messages

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so no spam in console

#

yippe

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:54 AM

#

slate flume While there are a bunch of devs here, I want to ask, what layer mask should I us...

Hitbox maybe

#

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:54 AM

#

Woah

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:54 AM

#

slate flume While there are a bunch of devs here, I want to ask, what layer mask should I us...

there's one already in the game

#

or was for the opposite i don't remember

unique crane Jul 20, 2025, 7:55 AM

#

Not sure what raycast would ignore player

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:55 AM

#

upper vapor

Where did you get this?

#

that's really interesting

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:55 AM

#

from here

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:56 AM

#

random scaffold then which?

it checks every player's position whether to drop the item

#

so i'm not sure why it's an issue for you

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:56 AM

#

upper vapor

This may be a really dumb question but how should I uh read this for future reference

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:56 AM

#

slate flume Where did you get this?

David sent it

#

alot of time ago

#

the start of labapi

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:56 AM

#

slate flume This may be a really dumb question but how should I uh read this for future refe...

LayerMask.GetMask("Hitbox")

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:56 AM

#

if i recall

#

or else 1 << n

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:57 AM

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upper vapor LayerMask.GetMask("Hitbox")

OHHH

#

Sorry

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:57 AM

#

celest thorn or else 1 << n

that is horrible practice

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:57 AM

#

Revelation

#

I was like "Why are half the boxes missing" for a hot second

#

I'm a little high rn I'm struggling

#

Lmao

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:58 AM

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(a bit broken)

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:58 AM

#

slate flume OHHH

if you wanna exclude it, invert it with ~

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 7:58 AM

#

upper vapor if you wanna exclude it, invert it with `~`

🔥

#

Actually my hero

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 7:58 AM

#

upper vapor LayerMask.GetMask("Hitbox")

unity should have really made an enum for layers rather than ints smh, have it automatically generated or smth

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 7:59 AM

#

icy knoll unity should have really made an enum for layers rather than ints smh, have it a...

erm

#

no

#

too lazy

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 7:59 AM

#

smh

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:59 AM

#

icy knoll unity should have really made an enum for layers rather than ints smh, have it a...

btw lumi you are my Heroine

#

saved my server from 1 tps

#

lower

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 7:59 AM

#

how bruh

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:59 AM

#

icy knoll how bruh

Ruei

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 7:59 AM

#

ik it’s good but how did i do it 😭

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 7:59 AM

#

switching to ruei v3 was probably the best idea

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

i’m still on v2 as rue said v3 isn’t finished yet

#

i don’t wanna migrate to smth that’s likely to break at any point

unique crane Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

icy knoll unity should have really made an enum for layers rather than ints smh, have it a...

How would they do it

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

icy knoll i’m still on v2 as rue said v3 isn’t finished yet

im sorry for you

unique crane Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

You define the layer names

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

you are loosing on alot of cool stuff

unique crane Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

Its gonna be enum with options

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

like type of level that now its easy

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

unique crane How would they do it

source generator

unique crane Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

Layer1,
Layer2

unique crane Jul 20, 2025, 8:00 AM

#

upper vapor source generator

Maybe

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:01 AM

#

celest thorn you are loosing on alot of cool stuff

i bet but yeah ima wait til stable before i deploy in prod lol

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:01 AM

#

i mean after solving a problem

#

now its stable

#

i dmed rue with the solution

#

for a massive issue with dynamic hints

#

btw

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:03 AM

#

celest thorn now its stable

i doubt the whole thing is stable…

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:03 AM

#

it is

#

im gonna be honest

#

it is

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:03 AM

#

just from 1 solution? sounds like bs i’m sorry 😭

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:03 AM

#

after solving that issue i didn't encounter any problems

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:03 AM

#

what issue even was it

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:04 AM

#

i know crazy

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:04 AM

#

icy knoll what issue even was it

she was calculating wrong the buffer

#

for sending them

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:04 AM

#

ah, shit i don’t know

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:06 AM

#

int pos = current.Position - (text.Length - buffer.Length);

#

like this is what she needed to do

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:09 AM

#

well

#

i’m still waiting for v3

#

is there a way to do roles like how you did for auto element?

#

ik auto element is removed but id rather not do an if check during the new dynamic element

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:12 AM

#

icy knoll ik auto element is removed but id rather not do an if check during the new dynam...

nope

#

you need to manually add them

#

but let me check

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:12 AM

#

the if checks? damn

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:12 AM

#

i have the src open

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:12 AM

#

rolechanged event shrug

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:12 AM

#

upper vapor rolechanged event <:shrug:947664969384734781>

^

#

im honestly loving how simple it is

#

before i was crying

#

for how complicated it is

#

now im crying for how simple it is

#

Nope there's nothing for roles

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:14 AM

#

upper vapor rolechanged event <:shrug:947664969384734781>

true

#

but the one thing i loved about auto element

#

is that it did all that for me

#

the if checks

#

the event checks

#

etc

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:14 AM

#

PR auto elemnt shrug

#

or

#

better yet

#

make your own library

#

and open source it

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:14 AM

#

they must have removed it for a reason…

#

so idk

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:15 AM

#

honestly

#

its easier this one

#

autoelement wasn't really that much easier

#

so i kinda like the idea that you have alot of power

#

on deciding stuff

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:15 AM

#

it seems pretty simple ye

#

how do i force an update on dynamic element tho?

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:16 AM

#

icy knoll how do i force an update on dynamic element tho?

Update()

#

you get it from the Tag

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:16 AM

#

good

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:16 AM

#

and then Update()

#

and that will tell the stuff to force trigger it

#

i tested it and it works

#

so

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:16 AM

#

can you not save the element on the player itself or must it be the tag?

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:16 AM

#

icy knoll can you not save the element on the player itself or must it be the tag?

You don't need to save them

#

you just apply the tag

#

and get them

#

by the tag name

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:17 AM

#

oh

#

okie

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:17 AM

#

its similar to Meow has a concept and i really like it

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:17 AM

#

what’s the point of a name tho if you have to add a tag to each player bruh

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:17 AM

#

because its easy to manage and reminds me of DOM

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:17 AM

#

icy knoll what’s the point of a name tho if you have to add a tag to each player bruh

not for each player

#

just for one element

#

the element is inside the player

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:17 AM

#

hm

#

so you can add 1 element to multiple people

#

ok

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:18 AM

#

#

like see

#

this is when a player joins in my server

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:19 AM

#

to me tho that looks like i’ll need to save the element

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:19 AM

#

display.GetElement(tag)?

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:19 AM

#

upper vapor display.GetElement(tag)?

idk let me check

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:19 AM

#

hopefully that exists or smth

#

because it looks like ima still have to save it lol

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:19 AM

#

public void Remove(Tag tag)

#

remove

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:20 AM

#

upper vapor display.GetElement(tag)?

hopefully this is by name and not by tag instance

#

otherwise i’ll have to save tag

#

:3

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:20 AM

#

Yea i will test it soon enough

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:20 AM

#

icy knoll hopefully this is by name and not by tag instance

new Tag("a") == new Tag("a")

#

but

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:20 AM

#

or else i will change it

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:20 AM

#

new Tag() != new Tag()

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:21 AM

#

upper vapor `new Tag("a") == new Tag("a")`

that won’t be true ever tho right? considering seperate instances

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:21 AM

#

i just said it

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:21 AM

#

i have something to test

#

rn

#

just give me a few seconds and i will be able to tell you if it works by instance or not

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:21 AM

#

#plugins-dev-chat message

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:22 AM

#

oh

#

it should then

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:22 AM

#

you could also make static method Get if the tag references are saved

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:23 AM

#

ideally there would be a Get(string tag) to avoid allocations

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:23 AM

#

i think the best migration

#

i've ever done

#

was Exiled to LabAPI

#

it took me 2 hours

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:23 AM

#

celest thorn was Exiled to LabAPI

lucky bastard

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:23 AM

#

ATOH 500 files

#

and shit

#

took me 2 hours

#

and 1 hour for meow

#

Sl is updating???

#

wtf

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:26 AM

#

it took me like a week to migrate discordlab

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:26 AM

#

crazy

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:26 AM

#

because i recoded the whole thing

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:26 AM

#

oh i did a bit of recoding

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:26 AM

#

exiled’s syntax made it hard to just swap out the old for the new for me

#

so i just decided to redo the whole thing

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:28 AM

#

it makes sense

#

i didn't really do much changes

#

but after porting it

#

i decided to rewrite it took me a week to do the entire library for loading stuff more optimized

#

from 58 tps to 60

#

on loading

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:29 AM

#

tpsmaxxing

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:29 AM

#

yes

#

what server has 20k primitives

#

and does 60/60

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:29 AM

#

not sure

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:29 AM

#

https://tenor.com/view/daniel-dae-kim-mogged-mogger-looksmaxxing-ruggyscruggy-gif-1507416034755076487

Tenor

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:29 AM

#

maybe some hungarian server
-# that may or may not spoof the tps toomuchtrolling

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

wtf

#

is even the point

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

nevermind i'm thinking of something different

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

what’s the point of spoofing tps unless ur showing it to everyone…

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

icy knoll what’s the point of spoofing tps unless ur showing it to everyone…

yes

#

they did that

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

why tho

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

one server like a year ago i believe

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

whats the point

#

lol

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

icy knoll why tho

idfk

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

why show the tps

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

but it constantly showed 60/60
which is very difficult to believe

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

i use it for debug

teal junco Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

how much does primitives affect tps?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

and they had many builds

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 AM

#

teal junco how much does primitives affect tps?

alot

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

#

teal junco how much does primitives affect tps?

make them static

#

shrug

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

#

upper vapor but it constantly showed 60/60 which is very difficult to believe

just set the hint to say 60/60 TrollDespair

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

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icy knoll just set the hint to say 60/60 <:TrollDespair:1198744721598722208>

yes they did that

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

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icy knoll just set the hint to say 60/60 <:TrollDespair:1198744721598722208>

nope thats ass

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mine is 100% real

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because i use it for debug

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lol

teal junco Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

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upper vapor make them static

does PMER do that for schematics or are they non static?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

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teal junco how much does primitives affect tps?

also
mirror sends updates for every single object on every frame
even if there are no dirty bits

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

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btw it works by doing a new

teal junco Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

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also yeah i figured that was pretty obvious

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

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teal junco does PMER do that for schematics or are they non static?

idk

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i don't use MER anyway

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 AM

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meow meow

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last time i used mer

teal junco Jul 20, 2025, 8:32 AM

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upper vapor also mirror sends updates for every single object on every frame even if there a...

dirty bits is a difference?

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:32 AM

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my server was doing 30 tps

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:32 AM

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teal junco dirty bits is a difference?

like

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it checks for serioalization

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and if there's nothing

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it sends an "empty" EntityStateMessage

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:32 AM

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upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:32 AM

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at least i think so

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:32 AM

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this works btw

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upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:32 AM

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celest thorn https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/9cbc09mi.png

can we add string overloads for these

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the new Tag(str) is so unnecessary

celest thorn Jul 20, 2025, 8:33 AM

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i know :3

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but atleast it works

icy knoll Jul 20, 2025, 8:33 AM

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i hate the new tag syntax please add strings

teal junco Jul 20, 2025, 8:34 AM

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upper vapor make them static

i figure that static primitives affect tps about as much as most map stuff does, but i dont know as much low level stuff so idk

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 8:34 AM

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What's the benefit of RueI over something like HSM?

upper vapor Jul 20, 2025, 8:34 AM

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slate flume What's the benefit of RueI over something like HSM?

performance

slate flume Jul 20, 2025, 8:34 AM

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How much performance?