for some reason people don't like that 
#plugins-dev-chat
spare zodiac
upper vapor
this built-in popup is good because
- opt-in
- official and stated in the EULA
- players see it when they join a server for the first time ever
worthy rune
if servers are not allowed to record players voices, what would that mean for other players. i doubt them grdp docs make any distiction between server/clients or are even technical on any level
upper vapor
if servers are not allowed to record players voices, what would that mean for ot...
train ai
duh
spare zodiac
this built-in popup is good because
1. opt-in
2. official and stated in the EULA...
I can make the same shit
upper vapor
I can make the same shit
you can't
upper vapor
well do it and show it
upper vapor
have you heard of hints my friend?
yeah have fun clicking those
worthy rune
isnt this all before AI really became popular
spare zodiac
yeah have fun clicking those
SSS
upper vapor
but you'd likely pass that to AI for moderation
spare zodiac
doesnt make u able to click a hint
no shit
upper vapor
it allows buttons
again, it's not an official, built-in game feature
SSSS is, but not the exact confirmation dialog
spare zodiac
what is SSSS isn't it server specified settings?
upper vapor
what is SSSS isn't it server specified settings?
that's not related to hints though
spare zodiac
why are people so fixated on recording players' voice
I no no wanna hear N-Words
spare zodiac
but yea N-Word is allowed to say like normal without context, but saying it to someone is not allowed anymore
random scaffold
i.e 'helicopter' 'car' i must ask like helicopter and car?
hello, helicopter is dev
upper vapor
what is ghostz doing here
worthy rune
why are people so fixated on recording players' voice
VC reports without requiring the reporter to have some recording software
idle depot
I see.
spare zodiac
but yea N-Word is allowed to say like normal without context, but saying it to s...
not to someone, more like aimed at them
worthy rune
im pretty sure other games have it
idle depot
!shoot 699629271089414224 1h toxicity
spring swan
why are people so fixated on recording players' voice
I mean, ever since an SL server back in 2018 successfully pulled off auto bans via voice recordings which is uh something a decent amount of server owners kinda keep bringing up every once in a while
spare zodiac
!shoot 699629271089414224 1h toxicity
who'd you mute
upper vapor
at that point
you don't need to store it
just pass it to an ML speech recognition model
regal lakeBOT
logic_gun#0 has been muted in this server for 1 hour.
idle depot
That guy
terse bone
VC reports without requiring the reporter to have some recording software
ohh.. and i didn't even think of that
spare zodiac
what did bro say
terse bone
thanks for idea :b
hearty shard
WOO
upper vapor
what did bro say
"erm prononuns, erm 🤓"
spare zodiac
at that point
you don't need to store it
just pass it to an ML speech recognitio...
originally was my plan
upper vapor
well uh
idle depot
!warn @random scaffold disrespectful behaviour - unoriginal pronoun joke
spare zodiac
"erm prononuns, erm 🤓"
did you know you can ignore pronouns in English language by refering only with name?
upper vapor
in the popup it says "short recordings for gameplay features"
so that doesn't count
restive turret
did you know you can ignore pronouns in English language by refering only with n...
Did you know English as a language suck ass
hearty shard
thx @idle depot
idle depot
thx <@796510062998192160>
Anytime
upper vapor
but it's waaaaay better then 🇨🇿
it's also way better than hungarian
restive turret
it's also way better than hungarian
Atleast there is no difference between "te" as male is female
spare zodiac
Atleast there is no difference between "te" as male is female
YES
spare zodiac
udělal/a
restive turret
*or
upper vapor
xd
spare zodiac
in english we have
exactly
upper vapor
Atleast there is no difference between "te" as male is female
did you mean "ő"
spare zodiac
did you mean "ő"
ó
restive turret
I guess
spare zodiac
í
restive turret
æ
upper vapor
let's not talk about the romanian language
upper vapor
China has 800 alphabet symbols iirc
i wanted to send something but i'll avoid that
spare zodiac
English has no čřšť just plain chracters
spare zodiac
me when dzs
saskyč is my name and people be like "how do I pronouns your name"
spare zodiac
saskyč is my name and people be like "how do I pronouns your name"
*pronounce
upper vapor
shashkeech?
true cedar
sastsktsktsk
restive turret
mlem mlem mlem
spare zodiac
you're just ripping off slovakia
yea
upper vapor
sastsktsktsk
are you serious right meow
spare zodiac
maybe changing my name to saskus would be better
upper vapor
sus
spare zodiac
suskus
spare zodiac
why's there no developer suggestion for people here?
like toys that could be added etc.
icy knoll
why's there no developer suggestion for people here?
github issues
spare zodiac
github issues
that's for issues right?
icy knoll
feature requests and issues
spare zodiac
do they also handle suggestions through it?
icy knoll
yes
spare zodiac
and where can I make this issue?
upper vapor
Why do ppl claim you cannot dev on Linux <:sadding:1230576782940438648>
because you can't install visual fosdio 🤓
plain gazelle
Does anyone have a guide on how to make Server specific settings menu?
Ours often "breaks" and completely disappears for all/most players and i want to learn how they work to try and fix it
royal mica
Does anyone have a guide on how to make Server specific settings menu?
Ours ofte...
Basically, put everything in the static list
When syncing players only then filter the list
Dont forget to permission check
Using wrapper for 2 settings >.>
SSS is very simple tbh
upper vapor
Using wrapper for 2 settings >.>
using wrapper for 1 setting
and for compat with other plugins
upper vapor
i can't guarantee that other devs won't just override mine
even if i do everything to "'comply" with theirs
upper vapor
have you tried secretapi
plain gazelle
Thank you both ^^
upper vapor
np
royal mica
No and wont cause it doesnt meet my needs
upper vapor
well what do you need
royal mica
No dependencies 
upper vapor
restive turret
unique crane
Why?
hearty shard
theres a feature that afaik is intended where you can pick up 3 500s and then a 330
but the thing is if you do candy then 500 it doesnt rly
work
or just another way of excluding 330 from the check
to you can pickup without dropping and picking up
or add ScpItemSearchCompletor to ignore it
or make ItemSearchCompletor ignore the ItemType.Scp330
idk!
hearty shard
or add ScpItemSearchCompletor to ignore it
or make ItemSearchCompletor ignore th...
this is prob the best one rather than new category tbh
teal junco
is there an event i can use to cover every time a player receives an item (in any way)?
does the labapi picked up event cover that
grand flower
is there an event i can use to cover every time a player receives an item (in an...
InventoryExtensions.OnItemAdded
worn gull
Where is the game checking when the nuke detonates who to kill?
slate flume
Where is the game checking when the nuke detonates who to kill?
In AlphaWarheadController.Detonate
The CanBeDetonated is probably the part you mean though
AlphaWarheadController.CanBeDetonated
worn gull
Thanks
slate flume
slate flume
Okay yo
You guys know how cassie announces respawns and does multiple lines back-to-back
Where the subtitles change part-way
Like each sentence
true cedar
yes
slate flume
Is it possible to do that myself
true cedar
add a newline
true cedar
yes
slate flume
So how does it know when to change if I use custom subtitles
Cause I wanna do multiple messages with the voice effects
slate flume
So how does it know when to change if I use custom subtitles
Or does it not work if I use custom subtitles
So
Doesn't work with custom subtitles
true cedar
it works with custom subtitles
slate flume
Do I need to do \n in both the message and custom subtitles?
I did it in just the custom subtitles
true cedar
huh
slate flume
I figured as much
If you declare custom subtitles there's no way for cassie to know where you want the switch for the next line to be
I could have it say "A B C" and want it to switch between the custom subtitles of "1" "2" and "3" and it would have no way of figuring that out
So the question is now
What do I do
I could just do the subtitles myself but that sounds really dumb
Would it be possible to reduce the delay between queued CASSIE messages to zero?
Follow-up, if I wanted to prevent a player from moving + jumping, could I spoof a strangulation on them?
slate flume
Also to add onto this to clarify
I remember that in the past there was someone who made a mod that required client-side patching that worked off of the InventoryItemLoader or some shit and would be able to modify names and descriptions for custom items
I wonder if it would be possible to simply change what items the client thinks it has when someone opens their inventory (eg. replace a gun in the inventory with a custom keycard)
The actual picture of the item would be inaccurate but you would then be able to give it a custom name
I suspect that it wouldn't work but I figured I'd say it in case I'm onto something
slate flume
I just tested it
Also one interesting thing I noticed is that using \n when sending an announcement literally just does
Also the textbox where you can enter it doesn't actually display the \n characters, it displays a new line
So it looks like
So you can cascade down the screen w/ it
It moves up depending on how many new lines you have it appears
tiny parrot
howdy people. Just now trying ro learn how to code plugins. Imma struggle so much because i have no idea what im doing. Yippe!!!! B)))
teal junco
hey does anyone know how to properly get a player to copy another player's rotation?
its fucking messed up and idk why
i know it must have something to do with how CurrentVertical is handled in Mouselook
slate flume
hey does anyone know how to properly get a player to copy another player's rotat...
player1.Rotation = player2.Rotation
teal junco
no, i also need to copy pitch
grand flower
LookRotation
slate flume
player1.LookRotation = player2.LookRotation
slate flume
grand flower
what are you trying to do
grand flower
That works on dummies
slate flume
You're doing it wrong
You're doing MouseLook.CurrentVertical = rotation.y;
I'll bet
teal junco
okay ill take a look again
slate flume
If you want to set dummy lookrotation to be the same as yours just do dummy.LookRotation = player.LookRotation
Don't fuck with mouselook or anything, just do that
It'll work
100%
slate flume
Lmao all good
It's a little counter-intuitive
Usually vertical = y
But no no
Vertical = x
Absolute garbage
teal junco
i tried copying what exiled did which i guess was not a good idea here
slate flume
Lmao real shit
slate flume
Yeah when I use lookrotation for dummies i do some shit
This is upsetting me that I can't figure it out
It has to be possible, right?
Like wtf
slate flume
I want to do it with custom subtitles so I can remove the voice effects I do
Will that still work?
teal junco
yeah
slate flume
Baller lemme test it
teal junco
Custom subtitles are usually just unreadable (to cassie) text along with the actual words hidden
slate flume
Cool
teal junco
so anything that works in the CASSIE command works on custom subs
teal junco
no problem
slate flume
You're so goated
teal junco
feels good to pay you back <5 minutes after you help me with the most obvious shit ever
slate flume
Lmao hey happy to help
I've legit been trying to figure it out for like 2 hours
Funny thing was I was reading your previous messages about Cassie and I was like "Woah this guy knows a lot about this maybe I should @ him" but I didn't wanna disturb you for something you might not even know haha
teal junco
Funny thing was I was reading your previous messages about Cassie and I was like...
which messages
and yeah i had to become like a cassie expert
hubert should have documented cassie when he wrote it
well maybe there is internal docs, i have no idea. i mean usually competent programmers do have docs on like everything essentially
slate flume
hubert should have documented cassie when he wrote it
Ong bro
I mean having no documentation for any of the code is a nightmare sometimes
teal junco
oh yeah that
yeah im a god damn genius
that on top of writing a plugin for cassie
for no conceivable reason
it has embedded some cassie knowledge deep into my head
gilded thicket
um no youre not
true cedar
it has embedded some cassie knowledge deep into my head
thats me with hints
teal junco
um no youre not
uhm yes i am
trust me, heh
you dont wanna mess with someone of my intellect
teal junco
👿
true cedar
i have the default line height memorized and know all the rules of when a tag can be parsed
gilded thicket
i distinctly remember you always reporting your findings and progress on ruei in exiled dev chat
true cedar
it was an ardous journey
and this time i wanted to mirror how tmp parses tags as closely as possible
but tmp tags are so fucked
teal junco
cant do that in SCP sl
gilded thicket
no its possible. he just cant do it
true cedar
they
gilded thicket
^
teal junco
i mean maybe you can but it has to convert into tmp at some point
gilded thicket
no
teal junco
why not
gilded thicket
scpsl is using a vulnerable version of mirror which allows granting access to client effectively turning this game into a more dangerous gmod 🔥
teal junco
its a client side thing, so scp sl has to have it implemented basegame
teal junco
scpsl is using a vulnerable version of mirror which allows granting access to cl...
please make this real
it would be really funny
teal junco
my current project has me ripping my hair out and i dont know if its worth it
true cedar
custom models
teal junco
im writing the demo system
true cedar
r u sure they're not using primitives
gilded thicket
yeah bro
teal junco
there r some east asian servers using it for custom models
can you send footage or something
gilded thicket
no
teal junco
oh
gilded thicket
i made it up sorry
gilded thicket
though u can mod sl clientside its fun
although il2cpp is annoying
the crouch feature is still in SL for some reason with the only missing thing being the animation (but u can add it back using UABEA). it takes about 5 lines of code for a server + clientside mod to re add crouching
true cedar
but tmp tags are so fucked
fun fact: <line-height=5 HELLO WORLD!!! e> works fine
gilded thicket
😭
true cedar
so thats what im dealing with
teal junco
the crouch feature is still in SL for some reason with the only missing thing be...
man i gotta learn uabea smh
wait so you can inject lines of code?
teal junco
before and after a methid
ah okay
ive seen a couple of people using something like it to spawn assets in SCP SL.
gilded thicket
so u can prevent a method from running, change args, return result, etc
teal junco
there's lieutenant griefer on reddit & a couple of people i spoke to on EXILED
gilded thicket
ah idk about that for code
teal junco
thats what i was talking about
gilded thicket
I was using bepinex for code and uabea for models and such
gilded thicket
yup
teal junco
so if i can figure out how to mod the SL client with a modloader then i can also mod the server the same way right
awesome
gilded thicket
I’m not sure. I was just using plugins for server to not break my head
teal junco
i probably wont even bother figuring this stuff out but its nice to know in case i ever wanna
gilded thicket
It’s actually quite easy. But annoying
teal junco
I’m not sure. I was just using plugins for server to not break my head
oh, yeah
gilded thicket
Because for server modding is really easy but on client side it’s difficult
teal junco
you can probably just write your custom stuff directly on the server side and just have your own network messages and stuff
haha
gilded thicket
I had some nw devs help me with some workings of the game though
gilded thicket
you can probably just write your custom stuff directly on the server side and ju...
Yup
teal junco
thats how those people on EXILED did it
so the assets were injected on the client side, and the server just told the client that it spawned
well if i ever decide to try it at least i know this kind of modding is possible
only good for private servers but its still fun
teal junco
at least four i think
there's a guy on reddit who posts his mods
theres like two people on exiled
and there's you now
teal junco
wait how do i run SCP SL in unsafe mode so AC doesnt catch me?
gilded thicket
wait how do i run SCP SL in unsafe mode so AC doesnt catch me?
Scpsl mod patch + scpsl classic
gilded thicket
yup that
teal junco
i used it to make a couple of texture replacements
upper vapor
NW will smite you
unique crane
I dont think you should be posting in here xd
grave eagle
Ahahhhahaha
spare zodiac
I dont think you should be posting in here xd
why not?
grand flower
Because it's a bypass for the (useless) anticheat SL has 
worn gull
Does somebody have a patch for this?
[2025-07-19 11:48:19.687 +02:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. Key: ReferenceHub (Name='Player [connId=3]', NetID='27079', PlayerID='23')
[2025-07-19 11:48:19.687 +02:00] [STDOUT] at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue].TryInsert (TKey key, TValue value, System.Collections.Generic.InsertionBehavior behavior) [0x0015a] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0 [2025-07-19 11:48:19.687 +02:00] [STDOUT] at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue].Add (TKey key, TValue value) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-07-19 11:48:19.687 +02:00] [STDOUT] at LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player..ctor (ReferenceHub referenceHub) [0x0000b] in <ed207da941d64f12942f0c5cc79632fc>:0
[2025-07-19 11:48:19.687 +02:00] [STDOUT] at LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player.AddPlayer (ReferenceHub referenceHub) [0x00008] in <ed207da941d64f12942f0c5cc79632fc>:0
[2025-07-19 11:48:19.687 +02:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.Action`1[ReferenceHub].invoke_void_T(ReferenceHub)
[2025-07-19 11:48:19.687 +02:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper dynamic-method) ReferenceHub.ReferenceHub.Start_Patch2(ReferenceHub)
terse bone
Does somebody have a patch for this?
[2025-07-19 11:48:19.687 +02:00] [STDOUT] ...
[HarmonyPriority(Priority.VeryLow)]
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Player), nameof(Player.AddPlayer))]
internal static class AddPlayerPatch
{
private static bool Prefix(ReferenceHub referenceHub)
{
if (referenceHub.isLocalPlayer)
return false;
if (Player.Dictionary.ContainsKey(referenceHub))
return false;
_ = new Player(referenceHub);
return false;
}
}
Thanks
random scaffold
which method teleport items from scp106 to door / pos?
icy knoll
which method teleport items from scp106 to door / pos?
look for items in shadow dimension and just set their pos
or do you mean the automatic method
random scaffold
ValidateDoor(DoorVariant dv, FacilityZone requiredZone) was patched
but it same teleport items
terse bone
which method teleport items from scp106 to door / pos?
PlayerRoles.PlayableScps.Scp106.Scp106PocketItemManager::Update()
random scaffold
but without the players
random scaffold
`PlayerRoles.PlayableScps.Scp106.Scp106PocketItemManager::Update()`
wai
terse bone
here it sets item's position
random scaffold
where he get drop position
terse bone
random scaffold
how can I make the player see the artificial flashes through the walls? (mimic SCP-1334)
i wanna make legal wallhack in settings
tepid sluice
I want to ask for this too
hearty shard
how can I make the player see the artificial flashes through the walls? (mimic S...
give them 1344 
or make them 096 and make everyone a target
random scaffold
give them 1344 <:troll:1234990137532874823>
me need individually for any role
spare zodiac
yo people how do I get information about keycard like lable from keycard that is defaultly defined by NW and not the custom keycard? I have been searching and it's fucking hard to do.
royal mica
yo people how do I get information about keycard like lable from keycard that is...
foreach (DetailBase detail in this.Details)
{
if (detail is IItemNametag itemNametag)
return itemNametag.Name;
}
This but for any other detail you need
grand flower
LINQ moment
royal mica
I just used the decompiled Name getter 
spare zodiac
```cs
foreach (DetailBase detail in this.Details)
{
if (deta...
I haven't found Detail in KeycardItem
*details
royal mica
Are you looking at InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.KeycardItem?
spare zodiac
Are you looking at ` InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.KeycardItem`?
no?
royal mica
Then you should
spare zodiac
Are you looking at ` InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.KeycardItem`?
why would I look for it though?
hearty shard
keycard.Base.Details
royal mica
Cause that class has Details
spare zodiac
var x = (KeycardItem)ev.Player.CurrentItem.Base;
Base doesn't exist in x
Details does though
I finally got it thank you
hearty shard
var x = (KeycardItem)ev.Player.CurrentItem.Base;
Base doesn't exist in x
well yeah if you make it reference the basegame and not labapi theres no .Base
spare zodiac
well yeah if you make it reference the basegame and not labapi theres no .Base
tbh makes sense
teal junco
Because it's a bypass for the (useless) anticheat SL has <:mmLul:405879229033742...
my bad
hope i dont get banned
mighty fractal
hi, i joined and i got a basic question which maybe a plugin will do. does anybody know if the scpsl server on linux supports stdin? trying to send broadcast messages through a socket to notify players of a server reboot (have had some weird freezes overnight before and ideally a reboot would solve that). please let me know if this is not the proper chat for this either. thank you!
teal junco
doesnt that tool force you to online mode anyways
icy knoll
<@1180466630191501363> do you got the ruei docs
they probably don’t, but i can help if needed
hearty shard
shit down rn
github died ?
celest thorn
github died ?
yes
icy knoll
text chat uses ruei, so does timers, you can read my source
upper vapor
hi, i joined and i got a basic question which maybe a plugin will do. does anybo...
you can just type /broadcast in the server console
celest thorn
text chat uses ruei, so does timers, you can read my source
Oh nice
didn't know that
upper vapor
the SL server can't read from LA's stdin
icy knoll
im trying to figure it out AutoElement
timers uses it
celest thorn
timers uses it
hmm the problem i have really is that before i calculated everything with Vector2
with x, y
icy knoll
i don’t use that, i just use voffset and pos lol
celest thorn
position on the screen now i need to replicate it on that
mighty fractal
the SL server can't read from LA's stdin
i was trying that with screen but it was never working (works fine when i run the script manually... which defeats the point of an automatic reboot). i appreciate the info that it doesn't read from stdin!
celest thorn
i don’t use that, i just use voffset and pos lol
thats too much work
its better to use that
for configs
and easier to understand
icy knoll
¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper vapor
i was trying that with screen but it was never working (works fine when i run th...
youcan have the script write a broadcast command
your shell script
celest thorn
i could steal the method used by HSM to calculate it so it looks the same
mighty fractal
let me send a screenshot. you might be able to solve this since im having trouble with screen. when i run this script manually, it works. but when i run it via cron or systemctl, it fails and i cant figure out the solution. it says must be attached to a terminal, doesn't work even if my screen is attached or detached.
celest thorn
oh wait i cannot
mighty fractal
your shell script
if i run this shell script via the terminal, works fine. but screen fails when i do it through an automated service which is what is giving me trouble. i tried with -d -m and whatnot, but still nothing.
cron fails and systemctl fails as well. it has to do with the screen session and being headless but i am stumped on it
mighty fractal
im probably going to have to at this point, which is why i joined here
is there a plugin already, or should i probably start making one
upper vapor
there's an option in the config restart_after_rounds iirc
so it auto-restarts every x rounds
gameplay config
celest thorn
@icy knoll can you get the height of the line or the lenght of the line
true cedar
<@618689346828238848> can you get the height of the line or the lenght of the li...
in hints?
celest thorn
in hints?
i need to recalculate the way HSM did the position
because im using Vector2 for the configs
true cedar
there's no way to get the height or length of a line unfortunately
celest thorn
Y: (700 - Y) voffset
X: <pos={0:0.#}>
i mean this are the calculation it does
but without them i don't think they will be precise
but honestly its better than nothing
true cedar
im a bit confused why u need the length of the line
celest thorn
im a bit confused why u need the length of the line
- hint.LineHeight;// Add extra line height on top of the first line so that the line height will not be calculated for the first line
true cedar
line height is a tag
celest thorn
because so everything has the same position
true cedar
huh
celest thorn
https://github.com/MeowServer/HintServiceMeow/blob/main/HintServiceMeow/Core/Uti...
check this out
im migrating from HintServiceMeow to Ruei
because im fucking done
hearty shard
the only thing u need to place correctly urself is the X
upper vapor
voffset for y
hearty shard
yes but y is already consistent in ruei
celest thorn
Y: (700 - Y) voffset
X: <pos={0:0.#}>
this is how meow calculates it
hearty shard
if you set what it should be
celest thorn
but it wants the line height or someshit
that i still don't understand why it needs it
ig i can just use this
and refine it
the configs
true cedar
yea ruei does all the vertical positioning for u
celest thorn
yea ruei does all the vertical positioning for u
crazy
hearty shard
schizophrenia
true cedar
does hsm... not?
celest thorn
because i just tested
hearty shard
hi rue
celest thorn
my server with 4 people destroys itself
hearty shard
my server with 4 people destroys itself
on ruei ?
that to my knowledge is a u issue
hearty shard
i dont think we would be switching to ruei if we were on it already
you can test changes on smth ur swapping to
true cedar
wdym idk lol
celest thorn
if you're using the ruei v3 branch
No v2
true cedar
and thats crashing the server?
celest thorn
;(
slender lynx
we are switching TO ruei
hearty shard
yes thats Y
upper vapor
why do they need line height
hearty shard
theyre adding HSM to ruei idk
celest thorn
why do they need line height
Im trying to migrate positions from HSM to ruei
To just not break everything
upper vapor
ppl have already added ruei to hsm
no need for the other way around
true cedar
they have lol?
celest thorn
ppl have already added ruei to hsm
no need for the other way around
I need to just calculate position thats it
Lol
Its not that big
true cedar
til
hearty shard
should've made Tag a record smh
ur so obsessed with records
true cedar
well i needed really fine grain control over when a tag == another tag
true cedar
upper vapor
ur so obsessed with records
cuz they make life simpler
true cedar
if two tags are created differently with a null id then they shouldn't equal each other
hearty shard
if other can be null and is handled fine why not make it nullable
true cedar
if other can be null and is handled fine why not make it nullable
it implements the iequatable interface
hearty shard
oh okay
upper vapor
if two tags are created differently with a null id then they shouldn't equal eac...
ah
true cedar
oh wait i can make it nullable wtf
upper vapor
so like javascript symbols
true cedar
so like javascript symbols
i think so yea
celest thorn
i think so yea
Can i ask you something can i create temp elements?
like a SendHint
but for ruei?
icy knoll
ye
true cedar
new Tag("hello") == new Tag("hello")
celest thorn
its time to rewrite :3
icy knoll
@celest thorn DisplayCore::SetElemTemp()
celest thorn
ok nice
icy knoll
that's for temp hints
true cedar
display.Add(new BasicElement(500f, "hello), TimeSpan.FromSeconds(2));
true cedar
as in inherit from element?
celest thorn
as in inherit from element?
yea
true cedar
yea
icy knoll
`display.Add(new BasicElement(500f, "hello), TimeSpan.FromSeconds(2));`
what do you do for hints that you want to remove during a certain point?
true cedar
yea
true cedar
what do you do for hints that you want to remove during a certain point?
Tag tag = new();
display.Add(tag, new BasicElement(500f, "hello"));
// later
display.Remove(tag);
make a method 
hearty shard
```cs
Tag tag = new();
display.Add(tag, new BasicElement(500f, "hello"));
// lat...
isnt this for v3
true cedar
yea
upper vapor
do you have an overload for no tag returning a new tag
icy knoll
```cs
Tag tag = new();
display.Add(tag, new BasicElement(500f, "hello"));
// lat...
how did you make 2 add methods for a dictionary 😭
icy knoll
yeah that adds up
true cedar
i was thinking of renaming Add to Show
celest thorn
public class ChatSystem : AutoElement
{
public ChatSystem(Roles roles, Func<DisplayCore, Element> creator) : base(roles, creator)
{
}
public ChatSystem(Roles roles, Element element) : base(roles, element)
{
}
}
i don't think i can do this lol
icy knoll
```c#
public class ChatSystem : AutoElement
{
public ChatSystem(...
for textchat, i just found it easier to use a dynamic element lol
celest thorn
for textchat, i just found it easier to use a dynamic element lol
I don't know nothing
im going blind
icy knoll
plus with dynamic element, you call whenever you want to update
AutoElement, you don't
upper vapor
droles was stupid
icy knoll
autoelement is being removed next version
my god ur nuking peak...
what's the alternative again? i find it useful to have it for timers
true cedar
events
celest thorn
thats so sad
icy knoll
like make it update every second and me not having to do a coroutine
true cedar
oh update intervals is an option in dynamicelement
icy knoll
https://github.com/LumiFae/TextChat/blob/main/TextChat.RueI/HintManager.cs
it's a pretty large class ye
celest thorn
before i was using a class Elements
upper vapor
lumi
icy knoll
oh update intervals is an option in dynamicelement
🙏 tysm
upper vapor
why are you using class tuples
upper vapor
😭
icy knoll
why are you using class tuples
because easier for me to write :3
upper vapor
because easier for me to write :3
(Type1, Type2)
celest thorn
im so scared
icy knoll
`(Type1, Type2)`
boringggggg
celest thorn
because it will become massive pretty fast
upper vapor
you're allocating unnecessary memory
celest thorn
wait i have an idea
icy knoll
you're allocating unnecessary memory
wait that really does that over named tuples?
upper vapor
wait that really does that over named tuples?
yes
upper vapor
its a class
icy knoll
lemme install rider
true cedar
u can which is silly
upper vapor
who tf is alt+tabbing my computer on its own
icy knoll
i love linux
hearty shard
who tf is alt+tabbing my computer on its own
who is
icy knoll
yay -S rider
icy knoll
simple rider install
upper vapor
i'm trying to press number keys
and it just alt tabs
wtf
WINDOWS
wanna hotkey in SL or write an apostrophe? SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT WINDOW
oh i know
i made a program to do that
😭
true cedar
dumbass
icy knoll
holy shit why tf is .net so large...
upper vapor
holy shit why tf is .net so large...
please tell me you're not installing the entire esverything sdk
true cedar
the sl plugin dev addiction
celest thorn
How can i get the elements on a player screen?
true cedar
for ruei?
true cedar
in v2 you can add the elements to a display but
upper vapor
because i need to remove a specific element
atgs
true cedar
oh use an elemreference
celest thorn
ev.PlayerDisplay.RemoveHint("LoadingScreen");
on meow i was doing this
but now how?
true cedar
idk i barely remember how to do it in v2
upper vapor
idk how to explain it but wait
upper vapor
why tf do you have goto
celest thorn
why tf do you have goto
because it skips one
but honestly thats not even the point lol
icy knoll
upper vapor
https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/hs2c9gdj.png
if (instance is TPS ? !checkPermission : !instance.IsDefault) continue
celest thorn
wait how can you set the X axes?
celest thorn
oh i forgot i need to do it manually
upper vapor
wait how can you set the X axes?
paws
royal mica
<:husk:1126701025882021908>
Set the dotnet path in the Rider settings
upper vapor
on how to save it
true cedar
wait how can you set the X axes?
pos tag
upper vapor
how did i know...
celest thorn
https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1274617943258566726/139620646261...
The problem is How do i save the element
i could save it in a dictionary
because i do this
true cedar
idk i think ur better off waiting for ruei v3 before migrating
celest thorn
idk i think ur better off waiting for ruei v3 before migrating
the problem is how much is it going to take
because if its more than 2 months im switching
upper vapor
i could save it in a dictionary
yeah just do that ig
dunno your use case for removing elemnts
upper vapor
i'd have a separate screen/display if many things change
celest thorn
the problem is most of the stuff is dynamic
for a simple reason
from Switching Hubs and stuff
to countdown
true cedar
@hearty shard
true cedar
no
hearty shard
me neither
hearty shard
no i got rid of the other paws
celest thorn
element = AutoElement.Create(Roles.All, raw).UpdateEvery(TimeSpan.FromSeconds(0.1));
i was reading but
Create doesn't exist
true cedar
yea the examples are outdated sorry lol
celest thorn
i don't quite understand why
this choice
but you cannot remove manually an auto element
like this gives me so much of an ick
hearty shard
but you cannot remove manually an auto element
.Disable() no ?
hearty shard
if (xxx)
return string.Empty;
hearty shard
whats the name for candy bag
Scp330Bag
wait
what r uon about
ItemType ?
the class ?
basegame or labapi wrapper ?
hearty shard
ItemType.Scp330 iirc
hearty shard
IDE suggestions:
me when ppl use this chat for config stuff instead of only coding
upper vapor
me when ppl use this chat for config stuff instead of only coding <:troll:123499...
RIGHT
smart
okay
mb
celest thorn
like
im trying so badly to understand
do i really need
a display
that badly to just display hints
upper vapor
is it horrible
true cedar
v3!!!!!
upper vapor
what
celest thorn
like im going to cry to bed
icy knoll
what data
icy knoll
can we normalise not stealing my shit
upper vapor
can we normalise not stealing my shit
"erm"
icy knoll
it's AGPL
you can't ignore it
i would recommend for legal sakes, do not steal my work.
upper vapor
fuck the license
we're gonna send rocks to your window
hearty shard
i should make it so you cant do anything with secretapi except reference it
upper vapor
i should make it so you cant do anything with secretapi except reference it
how is that open source at that point 😭
hearty shard
how is that open source at that point 😭
thats the point
nah
secretapi will always be free to use if theres a comment w credit
upper vapor
make your own hosting for secretapi
upper vapor
secretapi will always be free to use if theres a comment w credit
wha
like
in the readme
upper vapor
the code that got yoinked?
hearty shard
yes
upper vapor
nodders
upper vapor
https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/neup9nzw.png
yeah but
hearty shard
i havent given a licence cuz im lazy
upper vapor
just give secretapi the MIT license then
CC0
hearty shard
PR one idk
upper vapor
-# -paws
icy knoll
also i just realised, i dont really need to publicize assembly-csharp in 99% of my plugins...
teal junco
will this code work to remove an item without destroying it?
upper vapor
will this code work to remove an item without destroying it?
uh
hearty shard
will this code work to remove an item without destroying it?
just remove it from player
upper vapor
why are you doing that though
to swap inventories?
upper vapor
just remove it from player
they wanna keep the instance
teal junco
why are you doing that though
to swap inventories?
no, i want to put the item in limbo to access it later.
upper vapor
no, i want to put the item in limbo to access it later.
uhhhhh
mighty fractal
if i run this shell script via the terminal, works fine. but screen fails when i...
for anyone who comes across the same issue, i fixed it by not using cron, using systemctl, and having the service that runs the script (not the timer for a daily server reboot) use the username that the screen session is running from. it runs from root by default and root screen sessions are different than user screen sessions. stdin wont work for this case.
teal junco
oke
hearty shard
oh i just use _player.ClearInventory();
teal junco
oh i just use _player.ClearInventory();
??
hearty shard
and then i just clear inv
upper vapor
and then i just clear inv
wouldn't that destroy the item instances
teal junco
probably it would
hearty shard
wouldn't that destroy the item instances
it doesnt for me
it calls public void RemoveItem(ItemBase item) => Inventory.ServerRemoveItem(item.ItemSerial, null);
i mean
teal junco
im converting my plugin fully to labapi so all the small things that exiled has is jarring to me and sometimes i dont wanna trace the full thing that exiled wraps
upper vapor
impossible
teal junco
it works for me
a last year when i made one of my first plugins, an exiled wrapper that wrapped the same exact method caused the item to be deleted and ghost items
anyways
i will try what axwabo did
upper vapor
uuuuuhhhhhh
hearty shard
hmmm
i do see it destroys but
for me its working afaik
i havent had issues and i remember testing it
upper vapor
"afaik"
upper vapor
what were you testing
hearty shard
what were you testing
afk replace
it gave me items
and ammo
and kept custom items
upper vapor
blink
teal junco
also, does anyone know if serials are re-used within one round?
hearty shard
which was for a temp fix
until nw added support
okay that explains it
but it does work
teal junco
also, does anyone know if serials are re-used within one round?
like if an item is destroyed, will a new item made later on possibly use that serial?
upper vapor
like if an item is destroyed, will a new item made later on possibly use that se...
very unlikely
hearty shard
like if an item is destroyed, will a new item made later on possibly use that se...
i think it just goes ++
so you need 65k itemsp
in a round
for overflow
