plugins-dev-chat

[hearty shard]

well idk if labapi has the event '

[celest thorn]

i think this is the way the game does it

[hearty shard]

wait

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/i7ctzrc0.png

[hearty shard]

what effect

[celest thorn]

because then the game does this

[celest thorn]

The animation

[hearty shard]

animation without animation?

[celest thorn]

No, Animation without giving using the item

[hearty shard]

patch UsableItem thing

[celest thorn]

i think i can do is just ev.IsAllowed = false

and send the packet manually to Auth

because if it works im setting a value on my custom items

[unique crane]

Did u make issue about it

[icy knoll]

not yet

[celest thorn]

Hey david is it possible to send the animation for an item that isn't consumed?

[unique crane]

These are most likely client side?

[hearty shard]

i mean server just needs to not remove the item after animation

which should be possible

[celest thorn]

I mean in some way the server is authenticating in the method UsableItemsController.ServerReceivedStatus

Is calling the using effect

what im trying now to do is replicate but im doing all manually to send the packet

[upper vapor]

just send the UsableMessage or whatever

[celest thorn]

Yea i did that and it works

but now big problem

the animation remains stuck

[upper vapor]

current item to none

[celest thorn]

I mean i could do that

but how do i get the time for the animation

[upper vapor]

usable.usetime

[celest thorn]

I guess i can do it

but i wanna try a theory

to bug this game more

if my client crashes is not my fault

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

It works, for comodity i did as an event for my custom items and obv it works with base game too

[unique crane]

Yipeee

[hearty shard]

actually

@unique crane heyyy

bestiee

do you know how to do the base call

from prefix patch

[unique crane]

Uhhhh

No

[hearty shard]

oh...

[upper vapor]

you don't prefix

[restive turret]

Get the base and rhe .ctor

@hearty shard
Harmony.MethodInvoker.GetHandler(
AccessTools.Method(typeof(ClassYouViewingRightNow), "ClasChanged")
);

Have fun

[hearty shard]

GetHandler gets the base and invokes it?

[upper vapor]

why can't you just write a transpiler

and call your own logic

[restive turret]

https://gist.github.com/pardeike/45196a8b8ef331f38b14e1a7e5ee1782

Not really what u wanted but atleast you can call the base

[random scaffold]

Room.Doors why it can contain null door

[plain gazelle]

Im trying to do
player.Inventory.ServerRemoveItem(player.Inventory.CurItem.SerialNumber)
but the function wants an ItemPickupBase from me, what does this mean?
I just want to delete an item from a players inventory. Dont drop it, just completely delete it

Oh i think its just player.RemoveItem(player.CurrentItem);

[grand flower]

that or pass null for the second argument

[random scaffold]

how get players from argument like 3.8.32.54.

[restive turret]

Check how the game does it like duh

[celest thorn]

Hi guys

[random scaffold]

why

Server.AmmoLimits[item.Key]

have wrong limit by default

but config

has

limit_ammo12ga: 350
limit_ammo556x45: 350
limit_ammo44cal: 350
limit_ammo762x39: 350
limit_ammo9x19: 350

[upper vapor]

RAUtils.ProcessSomething

ProcessPlayerIdsOrNamesList maybe

[celest thorn]

hiii

[upper vapor]

hi

[spare zodiac]

can I somehow get what objects are drawn for player?

basically all objects the player sees?

[upper vapor]

why exactly do yo need that

[spare zodiac]

making self learning ai

[upper vapor]

why not use navmesh

or run a client, get a low res screenshot every x frames, and simulate input given by the AI

[spare zodiac]

navmesh? I need even players it sees

[upper vapor]

Player.ReadyList

VisionInformation

[spare zodiac]

Axwabo could you do smth for me?

[spare zodiac]

vision information? I heard about that on Exiled and then never saw it again what is this?

[upper vapor]

it checks if you can see another player

NW uses it for all player vision based stuff

e.g. 096, 173, 1344

also, VisionInformation includes much more info than a simple raycast

[spare zodiac]

I can imagine what does it include though?

[spare zodiac]

I'll load the picture in 1-3 business days give me a minute

[celest thorn]

How are you doing?

[upper vapor]

meh

[celest thorn]

Ok so sl introduced that alot of time ago

but never actually sponsored it

enough lol

[upper vapor]

wha

[celest thorn]

DebugLines

[upper vapor]

that's

they wanna know all gameobjects the pőlayer can see

[celest thorn]

Oh ok totally different

lol

i interpreted it in a different type of drawn

[upper vapor]

fake rendering on the server

🥶

-# or real rendering?

[celest thorn]

oh talking about fake rendering

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

imagine

[celest thorn]

I semi have that?

[spare zodiac]

so is it in functional state?

and in which way did they implement this?

[celest thorn]

like its not perfect

[celest thorn]

No it was drawing object like lines

etc...

[upper vapor]

like... the AI learns entirely on its own? surely not...

[celest thorn]

Nah not in that sense

but its not determinalistic

[spare zodiac]

so is there way to get objects that player sees?

[celest thorn]

VisionInformation

VisionInformation.GetVisionInformation()

[upper vapor]

i think it's a horrible way to do this on the server

[celest thorn]

Same

[spare zodiac]

and in the get visioal information I input game object?

[upper vapor]

.

to get all "gameobjects" you'd need a view frustrum and some way to check the objects in that frustrum
order by depth
etc

recreating a rendering pipeline on the server sounds

shit

xd

[celest thorn]

btw i was bored this morning so i decided to litteraly debug the source engine (VPhysics) to actually implement the physics of half life 2 in SL just because why not

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/v32ulsmu.mp4

(its using the mass of gordon freeman / any player in every Source Game 70KG)

[spare zodiac]

source is player
source cam is players camera position
target vector3 is gameobjects position

[upper vapor]

try not to be bored challenge

[celest thorn]

FR

(and its all client side)

the prim is clientside

[upper vapor]

the video stopped halfway 😭

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Im bored

client side physics too

[upper vapor]

nuh uh

[celest thorn]

Next thing recreating lovely models / physics dummies

Why?

because why not

Btw source engine physics is really really really strange

they do alot of calculation

but on unity they can be done with just 3/4 lines

[spare zodiac]

this is goated

[celest thorn]

next thing 3D models (im too bored to do that)

[spare zodiac]

is there even a plugin who used visual information?

[celest thorn]

nope

never actually seen in use outside of sl assembly

[spare zodiac]

zer0 pretty please could you decompile some use of this and show it because it would make more sense to me

[celest thorn]

ok

Ok i now understand

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/5zzujz42.png

As you can see the method is used for example in the effect That gives danger the Shrek stuff

[unique crane]

Now make portal

In SL

[celest thorn]

Oh my god

if a toy for making portals (like camera poiting and mirroring a position) would be added

i would do it INSTANTLY

like

[unique crane]

Thats not gonna happen

rendering another camera like

[celest thorn]

i know ;(

[unique crane]

nuh uh

[celest thorn]

;(

thats so sad

But i wanna remake gmod

[hearty shard]

david bully

[celest thorn]

Physics

is there

the guns are here

the optimization are here

so

[unique crane]

You should absolutely not make alt account as a bot

and absolutely not use that for image rendering

[spare zodiac]

so I can just put position of gameObject and check if it sees it and I can do this for all approximate 15000 objects

[unique crane]

and surely not send that as image toy as a portal image

[celest thorn]

THATS SO laggy

asf

Wait....

wait....

The server has a cam

[unique crane]

But there is no graphics on the server

[celest thorn]

and i remember someone rendering frames with it

hmmmm

[unique crane]

its all stripped

[celest thorn]

I know

but something exist

[upper vapor]

you are delulu

i tried rn

[spare zodiac]

add it!!!

[upper vapor]

sl doesn't even start

[unique crane]

No

[celest thorn]

Thats so stupid

Im honestly tempted to recreate half life 1

on SL

or even 3D doom

by loading wads

[spare zodiac]

wouldn't just setting position and rotation of player camera be enough?

[celest thorn]

?

[spare zodiac]

Are we talking about the reflection from portals or the gmod's camera object?

[celest thorn]

Thats not called reflection is called directly portal

like its a portal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_rendering

[spare zodiac]

I mean reflection as reflection the normal reflection not reflection as proggram reflection

[spare zodiac]

Oh I see you need different perspectives in the portal even

I would love portal effect to exist so door teleporters could be more realistic with sound going through also trust this will be epic

[celest thorn]

and that would be a nightmare for nw but i guess it could be cool

[spare zodiac]

possibly setting the players camera's position and rotation would be cool

third person is reaaaaal!!!

[restive turret]

Nice now do gravity gun

[celest thorn]

Crazy i could do it

https://half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Physgun

hmmm :3

[unique crane]

Physgun would be easy

[restive turret]

So David, when GameCameraToy

[unique crane]

Nop

[celest thorn]

So David, when SCP:SL 2 / SCP:SL Sex Update / SCP:SL Client Modding

[restive turret]

Wdym nop

[unique crane]

Like you can suggest it

but how would it work?

[celest thorn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_rendering
AntiPortal

I think it would be a mess thinking how sl works

so its a bad idea

especially for the culling

[restive turret]

Idk how would it work

[unique crane]

Best I can do is camera with NxM resolution and like 5 fps

[celest thorn]

crazy

[spare zodiac]

#removeCulling

[celest thorn]

WAIT if you add stuff like this

we can do omegle on SL

[icy knoll]

[unique crane]

💀

[hearty shard]

cullingtoy 14.2

[celest thorn]

I have alot of ideas

from optimizations

to even recreating stuff

[restive turret]

MeshToy

[celest thorn]

TriangleToy

and that would be fantastic

[restive turret]

Or TextureToy

[celest thorn]

Custom Character Toy

[spare zodiac]

you should add picture toy with us being able to input pixels into it and it would show

[celest thorn]

Destroy Your Computer Toy

[restive turret]

Setting an already existing texture/mesh into the parent

[hearty shard]

#killslejm

[spare zodiac]

wait triangle would be useful though

[celest thorn]

fr

[unique crane]

I think it would be better to finish up missing stuff from labapi

than adding new and new toys

even tho they are cool

[limber silo]

thats the plan

[restive turret]

How many internal pr/issue labapi have

[icy knoll]

taking LOA from QA testing

:3

[unique crane]

Many has been merged recently

[celest thorn]

500k

[hearty shard]

david

can we have

[unique crane]

Its not like you tested any of my QA requests 😐

[hearty shard]

BrainrotToy

[celest thorn]

EveToy

it doesn't exist

[unique crane]

[hearty shard]

zero ur brainrot

im asking for u to be added

[limber silo]

We have merged over 30 prs in less than 20 days

[icy knoll]

because everyone else does them before i get the chance, or im busy and i forget about them...

[unique crane]

Yeah its fineeee

[celest thorn]

im not brainrot im just bored

[unique crane]

I dont blame u or anything

[celest thorn]

Wait how does QA work?

like you give them a branch?

[spare zodiac]

david you are wrong!!! add mesh toys from existing meshes in game rn!!

[restive turret]

x3rt's pr would go hard 🔥

[unique crane]

We build the game on gitlab pipeline

Make post it on QA channel

[celest thorn]

yea but then on steam? or what?

[unique crane]

They download the depots yea

[restive turret]

Ye it auto push to one of the steam branch

[celest thorn]

Crazy cool

[unique crane]

No not branch

[restive turret]

You cant push to public via api

[unique crane]

just depot

[icy knoll]

if it was a branch it would fucking suck lemme tell u that rn

[celest thorn]

OH

I KNOW UNDERSTAND

Now i see why on steamdb there are constantly depots being changed

lol

[restive turret]

Wdym? You need a new manifest to download it

[unique crane]

Yeah thats why

[celest thorn]

https://steamdb.info/app/700330/history/

[restive turret]

You pushing into a qa branch

[celest thorn]

Like you can see constantly updates

even hours apart

from each others

[restive turret]

I know how steamworks

[unique crane]

Yeah u download depots based on manifest ids

[restive turret]

Ye that's auto build / push

[celest thorn]

ok so we can "spy" on nw

[restive turret]

Not really

[celest thorn]

yea its not really spying

if its a working day or not lol

[restive turret]

2 month ago steam removed the branch seen by public

[celest thorn]

sadly

[restive turret]

You only see public branches, and password opened one

[celest thorn]

i have the public qa one

because i tested it and contributed to it lol

with my amazing video

[restive turret]

I had the Patreon beta one

[celest thorn]

https://streamable.com/7gaqjg

still amazing

[upper vapor]

kurwa

zero you might be delulu

[celest thorn]

im still wondering if someone saw it

[celest thorn]

?

wtf is delulu?

[upper vapor]

delusional

[hearty shard]

she always was

[celest thorn]

fr

[limber silo]

devs used branches before

but steam limits them

the good thing about branches is they are really easy to use

compared to manifest ids

[restive turret]

Well

Ye if you know how to use manifest ids

I remember it needs what branch it has

[limber silo]

To use manifest ids you need the steam depot downloader

while with branches you can just put them in the app

[restive turret]

DD can do it.
Usually like
depotdownloader -app appid -depot depotid -branch qa_testing2 -manifest manifestid -qa -dir "Lel"

[icy knoll]

then u need the password

[restive turret]

No

If you already know the depotid no

*manifest

[icy knoll]

u can password protect

[unique crane]

^

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-el-wiwi-el-wiwi-cat-kitty-cat-wiggly-gif-5752819042134138539

[restive turret]

Not matter if you know what branch it comes from and what the manifestId

[celest thorn]

so in theory

[limber silo]

well in this case we have private builds so it needs you to either have the license in your steam account or a password for the depot downloader

it wont work just with the manifest id

[celest thorn]

if we have just this we could download them :3

[restive turret]

If you have the encrypted manifestId yes you need the password

[celest thorn]

so sad no internal leaks ;( (im joking i don't wanna have a lawsuit under my doorbell :3)

[restive turret]

I can download PayDay 3 manifests that are not public by only the manifestid and branch name

[restive turret]

Yes even if someone downloads them cant play since the game verifies your thing

[unique crane]

You download PD3 testing branch or what? XD

[restive turret]

Ye, I can download any version of pd3

[celest thorn]

but why?

[unique crane]

Send me tutorial how

I want to do that

[celest thorn]

LOL

[unique crane]

Wait can you like download early versions,

?

[restive turret]

You need something called "WebToken"

[celest thorn]

I think yea because if its internal testing branch

[celest thorn]

btw i think its illegal even leaking info from those build

idk why i feel like it is

[restive turret]

Yes it is

That's why you not see me doing anything with it lol

I respect them, i just see what they do thats all

I love seeing dev builds, funny and entertain me

[celest thorn]

probably nothing

because from a build to another probably doesn't change much

[restive turret]

Check the changelog on pd3 too then

[unique crane]

PD3 changelog be like: errm added something

The actual changes: 10 A4 pages

Never understood why they do that

[celest thorn]

I've seen alot of companies do that

and then we have Stress level zero doing

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1592190/view/4182232471524699594?l=english

an update every 20 years

[limber silo]

didn't mean it that way

Steam won't let you download them at all

If you dont have the license in your account or provide a valid license

To the depot downloader

if I gave you rn a manifest id you wouldn't be able to use it

[restive turret]

Btw its either webapi key or access token.
If you have permission you can request a specific webapi key with that tied of the app

[restive turret]

Well sl is available to anonymous account, no?

[limber silo]

those builds need a custom license

like the patreon one

[restive turret]

I had patreon one but didn't had any dlc

[unique crane]

Bonelab my beloved

[celest thorn]

oh my

You have it?

[unique crane]

peak game

but there aint much to do

[celest thorn]

Im going to cry

Im going to cry

I FOUND SOMEONE ELSE WHO HAS IT

[unique crane]

Yea

[restive turret]

But ye, you need a valid steam account that "owns" the game

[unique crane]

You found the other person who bought it

[icy knoll]

i have bonelab too... bought it because my friend was on vr tho and i had like no games for them to play LOL

[celest thorn]

Its crazy good

in multiplayer

[limber silo]

https://steamdb.info/app/700330/subs/

[celest thorn]

but the problem i always find fucking british children stabbing each others

[unique crane]

Peak VR game is still Walking Dead Saint and Sinners

[celest thorn]

Half life ALYX

PEAK

Idc

[unique crane]

Crashed for me a lot ):

But I finished it

[celest thorn]

nah for me it Was smooth

asf

[restive turret]

Oh you mean the bot pushes the manifest into different depots than what the public have access to

For example depot 859211

Ye than you need access for that depot yes.

[unique crane]

Might be oculus 2 moment

[celest thorn]

i have an oculus 2

[unique crane]

And I used cable

to connect

[celest thorn]

I used steamvr

because i don't spend my liver to buy the cable

[unique crane]

I just bought normal USB cable

3m

Works fine

[celest thorn]

nah i know it sucks with normal cable

and i prefer steam alot

[unique crane]

Pavlov VR also peak

[restive turret]

BUT if you push to one depot that is contains with the basic license (700331) then you dont need to own that package/license

[celest thorn]

I played the legal version

and it wasn't that fun

chinese people were too weak probably

[unique crane]

I only like some gamemodes

Like normal CSGO gamemode is boring

but custom ones

[celest thorn]

nah cs is peak

[restive turret]

Idk what depots does SL's gitlab bot uses to push update so

[celest thorn]

btw when SCP:SL VR

[unique crane]

PD2 is also peak vr

U have so many advantages

[celest thorn]

I have PD2 but never played it nor normally or in VR

I played lethal company in vr

and i need to say i cried

and on fallout 4 vr

im never touching those game in vr ever again

[restive turret]

I was gonna say have you played "just dance" in vr

[celest thorn]

HAHAHAHHAHA

[spare zodiac]

you can make it right?

[celest thorn]

when they give me scp sl src

why not

but without that impossible

lol

[spare zodiac]

someone made it without src

[upper vapor]

❌

[celest thorn]

or it would suck

[restive turret]

Oh the name would be
Beat Saber

[celest thorn]

Yes but it sucks ass

[celest thorn]

It sucks ass

[upper vapor]

are you talking about Taj's thingy?
no, that's not SL

[celest thorn]

No

[spare zodiac]

probably and would have to use your own primitives for skin

[spare zodiac]

I am not

it was just the skeleton made with moving

[celest thorn]

but you cannot even see the cam while moving etc...

[upper vapor]

???

[celest thorn]

so it sucks ass

[spare zodiac]

it was pretty smooth

[celest thorn]

I wanna see my character while playing

[unique crane]

White Knuckle VR would be pretty cardio

[celest thorn]

not like stare at my desktop

lol

[celest thorn]

I must not agree

bonelab parkour map

those are like training and pain neck

lol

[restive turret]

What about Beat Saber?

[unique crane]

Boring

[celest thorn]

fr

[restive turret]

:(

[celest thorn]

Beat saber sucks

[restive turret]

That was my first game on vr

Only had like 30min

[celest thorn]

idk i don't like it at ALL

But we can all agree on one thing

VRChat got worse

[restive turret]

Ye

That's worst than any game

[celest thorn]

i remember when i got it it wasn't that bad

[celest thorn]

Im not even touching anymore and i have it hidden

[restive turret]

I don't even have it

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-day-are-you-ready-for-some-football-gif-16278812894835706568

worse than SL?

[celest thorn]

BRO

[celest thorn]

Ye

[upper vapor]

eh

[celest thorn]

Moderation wise yes

community yes

development idk

you cannot even mod vrchat so

[upper vapor]

tfym you can't mod vrchat

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/3wul35gd.png

But this game in vr

[upper vapor]

officially, no, but there are 3rd party solutions

[celest thorn]

would be crazy

[unique crane]

@celest thorn Which triangle tho

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[unique crane]

#serverhost-suggestions message

[upper vapor]

90deg triangle

[celest thorn]

like a 2d triangle

[unique crane]

Yeah but like...

Right angled

[upper vapor]

doesn't matter tbh

[celest thorn]

yea

[upper vapor]

it's rotatable

[unique crane]

Me on my way to do custom enum for primitive types just to add triangle to it

[celest thorn]

OH MY

[unique crane]

I mean

[celest thorn]

why nw is cooking

[unique crane]

I will have to do that

[upper vapor]

at this point just make meshtoy 😭

[unique crane]

If its gonna be in primitiveobject

[celest thorn]

At this point make SL client side modding

[unique crane]

No

[celest thorn]

sad

[upper vapor]

public const PrimitiveType Triangle = (PrimitiveType) 420;

please don't break avery single map loader

or make a separate TriangleToy

it's gonna have horrible performance though

[celest thorn]

but

meshes

imagine that

you can create goku

tposing on sl

[upper vapor]

you can create meshes already

[celest thorn]

how

because using algo is almost impossible

and they look like shit

[upper vapor]

using what

convert the mesh to quads in blender

wherever possible

oh wait that doesn't create perfect quads

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/fha1fa3q.png

perfect pr

[unique crane]

Expectations: you can turn valve in HCZ

Reality: cube

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Not only cube

you can make an empty gameobject and attach an entire house

[unique crane]

The sphere

[celest thorn]

imagine throwing a house at someone

[upper vapor]

me when eu-central official

[celest thorn]

wtf did i come back to?

[spare zodiac]

would it be against VSR if I would take players inputs and train AI based on it? DNT player would not be ofc included

[celest thorn]

in theory not against the VSR but against the EU laws because you should tell a player how their data is processed and for what reason

But you should search on google or generally ask someone who is in the matter of Ai training

[upper vapor]

better call saul

ai ethics is a very complicated fielkd

[celest thorn]

especially right now

in the EU

in the US they don't even care enough lol

[upper vapor]

"why do you need to know where their eyes are if you're not seeing if they're dilated"

[unique crane]

Cant you just train on like videos

[celest thorn]

No?

[unique crane]

Like the way they trained ai to play MC?

[upper vapor]

that doesn't include map data

[unique crane]

true

that was with input too i guess

Well

[celest thorn]

Sl is different from mc

[unique crane]

You can record them yourself or make players agree with it

but like

[upper vapor]

there's millions if not billions of minecraft video seconds out there

[celest thorn]

Sl has probably 1 video

With gameplay

[upper vapor]

twitch streams

[celest thorn]

And 10 other of allegations

Lets be honest

Lol

[celest thorn]

True but most of them are old asf

The legendary “FIGHT ME DEMON”

[upper vapor]

i'm following a twitch streamer who often streams sl

[celest thorn]

Crazy

Sl content rn is admin abuse

Admin abuse

And allegations

Thats what shows up if i search sl

[restive turret]

Real

[unique crane]

Me when internet drama

[celest thorn]

“The internet is not a safe place”

[restive turret]

Lmao

[unique crane]

Me when parents give their kid access to whole internet

[restive turret]

Not my issue

[upper vapor]

gen alpha playing sl...

[celest thorn]

Me when your kid is stopid and doesn’t understand the concept of candies

[upper vapor]

xd

[unique crane]

I just kill kids in SL

[celest thorn]

WHAT

[unique crane]

I ask d class to say something

if they are kids

shoot them

[spare zodiac]

I would not have data of gameObjects around player which I think would give me better perception

[upper vapor]

can you add a command in the game
that crashes kids' games

[celest thorn]

lol

[unique crane]

Thats why I added the in SL at the end

[spare zodiac]

is it against vsr to crash kids computer?

[celest thorn]

still funny

[unique crane]

and not in seperate message

[unique crane]

Yes

[celest thorn]

Yes

but if you want i can give you a method

[restive turret]

Is it against vsr to ban kids?

[spare zodiac]

this shall be fixed

[celest thorn]

the easiest cams

[celest thorn]

Is it illegal if a bully kids on SL

oh wait

[upper vapor]

erm actually it's CSG now
counter-strike global

[spare zodiac]

please

[celest thorn]

is it Illegal if i get them hooked to my server and make them spend money? (IM JOKING)

[unique crane]

You can ban for any reason

[spare zodiac]

if (player.UserId.Contains("northwod") ban(player);

[celest thorn]

I had that alot of time ago

[unique crane]

Yeah you cannot prevent NW staff to join

[celest thorn]

in one of my old servers

it just pinged me

[unique crane]

(those who have ban bypass)

[celest thorn]

if there was a nw staff

[unique crane]

wait LOL

[upper vapor]

6.4
underage gambling is illegal in most countries i'm pretty sure

[unique crane]

That code wont even work

[celest thorn]

Auth

[spare zodiac]

like I physically cannot or against rules?

[celest thorn]

Not gambling

cosmetics

[unique crane]

You would have to patch auth check for ban bypass

[spare zodiac]

because I can make their time on server horrible

[upper vapor]

ohhhh

[celest thorn]

You make them bright and like youtube thumblains

and so they get hooked

on having the brightest and coolest cosmetics

[spare zodiac]

with network play earape with audiotoy for NW staff only and send a hint over their screen with mark padding so big it's over with blicking color

I am so smart

[upper vapor]

yes that's also against CSG

[upper vapor]

david...

[spare zodiac]

what is CSG?

[upper vapor]

did you know that toilets have flashing lights

[upper vapor]

#game-announcements message

[unique crane]

That is possible

[spare zodiac]

that is bullshit

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM6RqXPO-oE&pp=ygUjZmlsZSBjb252ZXJ0IHRvIHJhdyB2aWRlbyBhbmQgYXVkaW8%3D

[spare zodiac]

we love the word VSR and now it's CSG

[celest thorn]

play this

so you upload deltarune files in their brain

[spare zodiac]

I will make NW staff suffer muhahaha

[unique crane]

tf have I done XDDDDDDDD

[celest thorn]

WARNING ITS LOUD ASF

[celest thorn]

WAIT SL DEVS MOD?

im shocked

i thought they only worked on SL src

revelation of my life

[upper vapor]

bruh

[celest thorn]

Thats actually pretty cool

[unique crane]

Whats the best way to test LabApi..

make plugins

[upper vapor]

i thought it sounded like a microwave

[unique crane]

Surely I did not start after labapi release...

[unique crane]

It is XDDD

It is microwave sound

[celest thorn]

when i test ATOH i make a tower and just put the thing to the test

[spare zodiac]

porting vending machines from real life to SL speedrun any %

[upper vapor]

lmfao

[celest thorn]

Porting doom to SL

[upper vapor]

gotta add item physics

[celest thorn]

(already done 2 times)

[spare zodiac]

both by zer0

[celest thorn]

@unique crane https://www.youtube.com/shorts/igMGXcAP9iE

Wtf

I think this is considered piracy lol

[unique crane]

can you like not post loud ahh sounds

[celest thorn]

I mean you can understand a raw video with audio of an exe

is not going to be not loud

so

but i usually listen to this videos

idk why

i found User32.dll from windows

my fyp is really weird like not in a strange way but just like stuff you don't usually expect from someone

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/robertdowneyjr-wide-eye-tony-stark-iron-man-avengers-gif-7766118

[celest thorn]

nah its like i listen the first 20 seconds

they start to become annoying lol

or they go in autoplay

[unique crane]

No shit

[celest thorn]

so im listening to some cool shit

and then i hear windows xp executables getting installed in my brain

[upper vapor]

can we get fonts for the text toy

[unique crane]

Its tmpro

so what you can use there

You can use in text toy

[upper vapor]

yeah but
mono font :3

i know you have it

[spare zodiac]

make rulete playlist with this being their once and 7 times some goos songs and set it to random

trust

[upper vapor]

dunno why it was removed from the fonts

[celest thorn]

no

[spare zodiac]

you can make mono with tags iirc

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/inz13dyt.png
https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/37s6aqwz.png

like this is my playlist

[upper vapor]

that's not a mono font though

zero

please

<>

[celest thorn]

?

[upper vapor]

yes

[celest thorn]

OH it doesn't show

the embed

i didn't know that

[upper vapor]

i clicked on your link cuz i wanted to reply 😭

huge ahh embeds

[celest thorn]

HAHAHAHHAHAA

my favorite song in all of this playlist i must say is this 2 songs
https://open.spotify.com/intl-it/track/0Ldi9pJ7Gs3WqUd80AtUGw?si=3d5e327a92d74087
https://open.spotify.com/intl-it/track/3VoY2M955hxgj9i6g3e5Yj?si=2b6b9aa22d6d4b58

crazy i know

[random scaffold]

why call OnPlayerFlippedCoin(PlayerFlippedCoinEventArgs ev) before animation

lol

[hearty shard]

never say it

not okay

[random scaffold]

why it have void

[upper vapor]

to prevent z-fighting

and precision errors

[random scaffold]

nw moment

[upper vapor]

?????

this is basic 3D modeling

why are you blaming NW for this

[icy knoll]

because they always do

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[icy knoll]

when a player leaves, what is the last event that is ran in that sequence? Left still keeps the player instance so i need smth further down the line

[restive turret]

Destroy player

[icy knoll]

thanks :3

[restive turret]

i just guessing idk actually

[random scaffold]

What is an effective event for give ammo (infinty ammo system)? Dry fired is not called if there are no bullets in the inventory

[icy knoll]

cant find an event for destroying player

unless it's a server event

no server event

hmm

[royal mica]

OnPlayerReloadedWeapon

Give the ammo when they finished reloading

and OnItemPickup, give them ammo for the gun they picked up

[unique crane]

Dry fire is only called when you pull the trigger and there is no chambered ammo

and only 1 time until it is recocked

[royal mica]

also since you have inifinite ammo, don't forget to delete all ammo items when they are dropped

[unique crane]

But honestly, giving player 65K ammo is enough

[random scaffold]

its already

[random scaffold]

stack overflow

already tried

[upper vapor]

wdym stack overflow 😭

player.SetAmmo(type, ushort.MaxValue)

there's no setammo on player

player.Inventory.ServerSetAmmo(type, ushort.MaxValue)

nvm

[random scaffold]

error

[upper vapor]

why

[random scaffold]

idk

[upper vapor]

show the stack trace

[random scaffold]

it was first and last time

when i used 65k

[random scaffold]

that was a long time ago

[random scaffold]

how get itemType for ammo from FirearmItem?

[upper vapor]

get the primary ammo container module

[icy knoll]

@unique crane sorry to ping, but as there is no player destroying event would i just use ReferenceHub.OnPlayerRemoved or is that the same as the leave event?

[unique crane]

I believe its both called in OnDestroyed in RefHub

[unique crane]

So yea

[icy knoll]

okie so there is a destroyed event in reference hub

okie

[random scaffold]

it works that?

[icy knoll]

hmm it's called OnBeforePlayerDestroyed

ig that's the absolute last event called

[restive turret]

what u want

[icy knoll]

i want to update player counts in discord when a player disconnects and connects, but when a player disconnects and i use the leave event, they are still in the player readylist and i dont want that

[restive turret]

Timing.CallDelay(1)

[upper vapor]

ReadyList.Except(leavingPlayer).Count()

[restive turret]

ReferenceHub.OnPlayerRemoved += RemovePlayer;
Well ye you should wait atleast 1 tick

[upper vapor]

OnPlayerRemoved should work

[restive turret]

thats inside LabApi wrapper

[upper vapor]

ReferenceHub

[restive turret]

ah yxe

[icy knoll]

idk how to get leaving player tho lol

but if player removed works

okie

[upper vapor]

LeftEvent

🤯

[icy knoll]

OHHH

wont work

[upper vapor]

did you use LeavingEvent

[restive turret]

did you made a wait?

since it runs before the player being removed from Dictioanry

[icy knoll]

no

Left

[icy knoll]

no

[upper vapor]

then the player is there

[icy knoll]

ik

i dont want them

lol

i want after destroyed

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[restive turret]

then wait 1 frame

or that

[icy knoll]

cant use that

[upper vapor]

why

[icy knoll]

because im making a translation builder

and that doesnt contain the leaving player

smh

[upper vapor]

what doesn't contain

??

[icy knoll]

the translation builder

bruh

it uses Server.PlayerCount

automatically replaces {playercount}

[restive turret]

i really dont know what u want

[icy knoll]

i want the destroyed event for a player

that's it bruh

😭

[upper vapor]

then make it not use player count

Referencehub.OnRemoved should work

[restive turret]

ye

duh

[icy knoll]

okie cool

[restive turret]

if you wait 1 frame after

then it will not be in any list

[icy knoll]

what about OnBeforePlayerDestroyed

is that before OnPlayerRemoved or after?

[restive turret]

what

there is no such a thing

[upper vapor]

there is

[restive turret]

well

then decompile and see where is run

[icy knoll]

OnStopClient()

and that's an override so idk when it's called lol

[true cedar]

onbeforepostleftpreplayerdestroyed

[upper vapor]

use OnPlayerRemoved

by that time the referencehub is removed from the hub list

[icy knoll]

then i gotta wait a frame 😭

[upper vapor]

why

[icy knoll]

Player.List doesn't use hub list

[upper vapor]

delegate order bullshit?

maybe

[hearty shard]

dont use player list

[upper vapor]

just try it 😭

[icy knoll]

because it's removed from Player.List when OnPlayerRemoved is called

this better work bruh

[upper vapor]

what's the problem with waiting for one frame

[restive turret]

thats what I been saying the entire time

[icy knoll]

dont wanna do it if i dont have to

[true cedar]

fuck you

[icy knoll]

WOAH

PAWS

[hearty shard]

WHAT DID I DO

[true cedar]

:3

[upper vapor]

then postfix ReferenceHub::OnDestroy

[restive turret]

😭

[true cedar]

thats me !

[hearty shard]

ew

[true cedar]

:(

[plain gazelle]

AdminToyBase.MovementSmoothing is a byte
What does the byte mean?
frames to interpolate?
seconds?
and does = 0 disable smoothing completely?

[unique crane]

Yes, 0 disables the smoothing completely. Any other values causes the position and rotation to be lerped on the client

With higher value moving the toy faster

[plain gazelle]

ah thank you

[plain gazelle]

What am i doing wrong ,_,

[hearty shard]

where are they

like compared to each other

u need to reference the namespace using of the extension

[plain gazelle]

DoorExtension is inside namespace Site12.Extensions

and the other script has
using Site12.Extensions;

[unique crane]

Extension methods are on instance

not static

[hearty shard]

oh yeah

i didnt even realize

yeah u cant have a static property

@plain gazelle dont make it an extension

remove this Door door

and just do DoorExtensions.GetClosest(player, out float distance)

[plain gazelle]

ohhh

[hearty shard]

or you can make it a player extension

so this Player

[plain gazelle]

probably smarter

Thank you!

Does Door.IsOpened = true open the door?
Exiled has a lot clearer methods and properties for their doors x.x

[hearty shard]

well

if you set it as opened

id assume itd become opened

[plain gazelle]

assume, yeah, but its just not thaaat clear

[hearty shard]

i thought it was but idk

[plain gazelle]

hm, this is how i used to break and repair doors using exiled
How can i do it using LabAPI/Interactables stuff?

[hearty shard]

um

ask in exiled

[unique crane]

door is BreakableDoor breakableDoor
breakableDoor.IsBroken = true

[hearty shard]

also u didnt show the error

oh i just realized u wanted the alternative

😭

[unique crane]

eve

[hearty shard]

mb

[unique crane]

YOu read like

First 3 words

[hearty shard]

i saw the image

[unique crane]

Eve your running on UDP

with each packet being a word

[plain gazelle]

Oh you can even tell it the damage type for breaking it, neat!

[low swift]

Hello!
I'm trying to compile a plugin for SCP: Secret Laboratory using NWAPI, but I'm missing some essential dependencies, specifically MEC.dll and PlayerRoles.dll.
I've checked both the dedicated server and the official NWAPI repository, but these DLLs are not included.
Could someone please provide a download link or a package containing these development dependencies?
Alternatively, if you have a recommended source or method to obtain them, I would really appreciate your help!
Thank you very much in advance!

[unique crane]

Hello, NWAPI is no longer in game. You need to use LabAPI

For missing references, download dedicated server from steam

And go to SCPSL_Data/Managed folder

[low swift]

hmmm

thanks

[unique crane]

MEC is in Assembly-Csharp-firstpass

and PlayerROles in Assembly-CSharp

[soft turtle]

[2025-07-12 18:24:42.803 +03:00] [STDOUT] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at UnityEngine.Bindings.ThrowHelper.ThrowNullReferenceException (System.Object obj) [0x00018] in <0deee1b9576d40a7a211b55014778fa6>:0
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at UnityEngine.Component.get_gameObject () [0x00006] in <0deee1b9576d40a7a211b55014778fa6>:0
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at ReferenceHub.GetHashCode () [0x00000] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue].FindEntry (TKey key) [0x00035] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0 [2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue].TryGetValue (TKey key, TValue& value) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at CollectionExtensions.GetOrAdd[TKey,TValue] (System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue] dictionary, TKey key, System.Func1[TResult] factory) [0x00000] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Ammo.ReserveAmmoSync.UpdateDelta () [0x00032] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Ammo.ReserveAmmoSync+<>c.<Init>b__2_3 () [0x00008] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper delegate-invoke) <Module>.invoke_void()
[2025-07-12 18:24:42.804 +03:00] [STDOUT] at StaticUnityMethods.Update () [0x00009] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0

How can I understand which plugin caused the error?

[restive turret]

Isn't this already got reported

[hearty shard]

it happens when plugin errors when using StaticUnityMethods.Update

entire thing dies

idk why error always goes back to firearm ammo

but oh well

[restive turret]

Skill issue idk

[low swift]

Hello!
I'm trying to compile a plugin for SCP: Secret Laboratory using LabAPI (version 1.1.0.0), but I'm missing some essential DLLs or the correct version of LabApi.dll.
The DLL I have does not contain the expected types (such as LabApi.Plugins.Plugin, Player, PlayerChangeRoleEvent, etc.), so the plugin won't compile.

Could someone please provide:

• The correct LabApi.dll (and any other required DLLs) for plugin development
• Or a working example plugin with all the dependencies it uses

Thank you very much for your help!

[spare zodiac]

Yes there should be nugget package called "LabAPI" if I remember correctly. Installing that should ensure thet all missing references you currently have will be present when building your plugin.

[hearty shard]

LabApi.Loader.Features.Plugins.Plugin not LabApi.Plugins.Plugin

[spare zodiac]

LabAPI.dll should be pre-installed on existing server

[hearty shard]

also PlayerChangingRoleEventArgs not PlayerChangeRoleEvent

[spare zodiac]

^^

[hearty shard]

PlayerEvents.ChangingRole += OnChangingRole;

private void OnChangingRole(PlayerChangingRoleEventArgs ev)

or smth

[icy knoll]

haiii

i take it there is no way to disable command loading right?

[hearty shard]

remove the attribute

[icy knoll]

im disabling adding the command via config option

so

[hearty shard]

register it manually

instead of using the attribute

[spare zodiac]

just wanted to write that

[icy knoll]

how when labapi registers for us? or is there a way to disable...

[hearty shard]

disable the attribute

and labapi wont register it

[icy knoll]

ah

[hearty shard]

QueryProcessor.DotCommandHandler.RegisterCommand(command);
CommandProcessor.RemoteAdminCommandHandler.RegisterCommand(command);
GameCore.Console.singleton.ConsoleCommandHandler.RegisterCommand(command);

[upper vapor]

Shhh
It smells like chat yappity

[upper vapor]

Download the dedicated server from steam, and you'll find the assemblies in SCPSL_Data/Managed if you open the directory of the server
Use the NuGet LabAPI and reference Assembly-CSharp UnityEngine.CoreModule in your project
If anything else is missing, your IDE or the compiler will scream for it

[celest thorn]

Hiii

[restive turret]

hi

[celest thorn]

how are you doing :3

[restive turret]

dedd

[celest thorn]

Thats so sad

[teal junco]

Does a constructor count as an entrypoint

i mean it runs automatically but why dont people use it as an entry point for dependencies?

[hearty shard]

what

be more specific

static constructor only runs when the class is called

[teal junco]

if i have a variable and set it as new(); as the initializer, it runs the constructor

[hearty shard]

ah

[teal junco]

when the program starts

[hearty shard]

yes....

[teal junco]

technically this could be used to run code without a plugin entry point

[hearty shard]

some dependencies dont require an instance

is the thing

[teal junco]

this sounds bad to me but im not sure if it is.

[hearty shard]

actually a lot dont

and creating a per plugin instance to store feels wasteful if its not needed

which is why ruei eg uses .EnsureInit()

[hearty shard]

idk if i fully get it

[hearty shard]

still needs yk something to call the new()

so would you prefer Dependency.Init() or new Dependency()

[teal junco]

okay i think i see

so it actually doesnt run automatically?

[hearty shard]

if im understanding ur thing

[teal junco]

only whrn accessed

the initializers that is

[hearty shard]

i dont fully know C# lore

but i do believe for a field to be intialized you need to call it

which needs smth that runs on startup to then call it

[teal junco]

okay i see lol

[hearty shard]

eg fields are created in a ctor
if theyre static theyre created in the static ctor

A static constructor is used to initialize any static data, or to perform a particular action that needs to be performed only once. It's called automatically before the first instance is created or any static members are referenced. A static constructor is called at most once.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/programming-guide/classes-and-structs/static-constructors

[unique crane]

Static ctor is also called only when you access the static class for the first time

Not on assembly load

[hearty shard]

yeah

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-fury-movie-shoot-that-guy-gif-8829002926137263043

[upper vapor]

[grand flower]

Solved my steamworks conundrums of a few days ago

still gonna need a custom steamworks implementation made but I'll be able to have dedis behind steam relay and still be able to do additional checks on a player's ip for community servers