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[restive turret]

Well I dont

[teal junco]

make patreon portal break on april fools

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

Wdym just remove the css file and would be funny

[teal junco]

let us all through and get unwatermarked images and videos

[upper vapor]

fake cloudflare confirmation

[teal junco]

and instead of april fools itll be on the day of 15.0 beta posts

[grave eagle]

No way

[restive turret]

Expose the directory traversal

[upper vapor]

lmao

[random scaffold]

this bro is alive

☠️

[celest thorn]

Its funny to see it like this, but i think you are making a system similar to GTA suicide?

[grave eagle]

I’m just copy it lol

[celest thorn]

So you need to pay to do that action?

automod flagged me

[grave eagle]

💀

[idle depot]

Pay 2 Lose will always be funnier than pay 2 win

[celest thorn]

if i remember correctly in gta you pay 500 bucks

and then you die

lol

its so stupid

yep i remembered correctly

[grave eagle]

Hahahah

[celest thorn]

in sl you pay with a keycard O5

[grave eagle]

I think there are enough things in the game to kill yuself

[celest thorn]

fr

pit

[restive turret]

Zero

[celest thorn]

?

[restive turret]

Can you make a map like "The Jewelry store" from pd2?

[celest thorn]

Im not good at map making

[restive turret]

Then who

Meow?

[celest thorn]

idk in our staff maro does them

[restive turret]

*maro

F

[celest thorn]

i just do maps really simple one

like for tourneys etc...

[restive turret]

I dont wanna touch unity

[celest thorn]

or cosmetics

and btw it would be in meow's format

so you cannot even use it

[restive turret]

Sadge

[celest thorn]

and because i don't wanna redownload unity 2021

(meow uses unity 6k)

[restive turret]

Wdym 2021

[celest thorn]

MER

[restive turret]

Oh

[celest thorn]

mer is still stuck in that version

i updated as soon as SL did

[restive turret]

Time to uh

[celest thorn]

Learn

[celest thorn]

btw depends on the details

[restive turret]

Suck with unity

[celest thorn]

the client would lag alot

thats why i made meow

[restive turret]

Ye i know how meow works

[celest thorn]

maps are limited alot on SL

[restive turret]

You showed it and I even helped you

[celest thorn]

Not everything i've shown there are some stuff i didn't show

like clustering

etc...

[restive turret]

Cluster these bombs

[celest thorn]

that is done in the editor directly

there's alot of game technices applied on meow

and thats why it runs so well

(done in the editor when compiling)

[restive turret]

Game doesn't even runs at 60 fps fro me

[celest thorn]

mine does 40fps

but i join my own server and i do 200 fps

and peaks 400 fps

[restive turret]

Wtf

[celest thorn]

with no rider or nothing open

[restive turret]

How do u

[celest thorn]

magic

[restive turret]

Even achieve that

[celest thorn]

QA's on AM can confirm that

its full of people amazed by that

and wait

[restive turret]

What magical bullshettry you do 😭

[celest thorn]

alot of magics :3

[restive turret]

Removing the whole map

[celest thorn]

#serverhost-cat message

[restive turret]

No Access

[celest thorn]

i sent it

and i think i can still do better but i need to find other ways to optimize

[restive turret]

Soon you can do it better by directly using the toy

I guess

[celest thorn]

I already semi do that

what the toy has done i already did it alot of time ago

but its really unstable

[restive turret]

I need to try and see how much fps I have on your server

[celest thorn]

i could give you access

[restive turret]

Would be cool so can just jump around and see the fps

[celest thorn]

yea

give me your steam id

[restive turret]

76

[celest thorn]

obv in private

[celest thorn]

?

[restive turret]

Its public

Steamid is a public information

You can literally search my steamid

[celest thorn]

76561198353954736@steam i think its this one

[restive turret]

76561198353954736@steam

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255067298524434493/1392759239327350864/image.png?ex=6870b39e&is=686f621e&hm=20407395bca825ea17c40afce983a0cc666d6e726fed78f17f534b08a5f13e6f&

[celest thorn]

its the same lol

[restive turret]

Ye

Also wouldn't join like right now

Prob can do like 8-10h from now

(i just got into work :sob)

[celest thorn]

crazy

[restive turret]

Ye and I waiting others to start up the server so I can scan for web vulnerability (xss, etc)

[celest thorn]

boring job

[restive turret]

No way

I fucking can't do anything and the scan takes 4-6-8 hour

[celest thorn]

oh my god boring asf

even more

lol

[restive turret]

Ye

[celest thorn]

you're hating on yourself

[restive turret]

No, thats what job they given me for an intern for my University class

[covert flame]

Possible to blackout someones view?

[upper vapor]

blinded effect

[celest thorn]

Blindness

[restive turret]

If you fake it?

[upper vapor]

that

[restive turret]

Oh

Ye blindness

[covert flame]

Ohhhhh, bro I am so stupid

[celest thorn]

don't worry :3

[covert flame]

I forgot that existed lol

[restive turret]

Hi so stupid, I'm SlejmUr

[covert flame]

so stupid is here already? I thought he was coming tomorrow

[restive turret]

@celest thorn I would show what I did yesterday but phone scrolling is ass

[celest thorn]

?

[upper vapor]

lmfao

do you have the pull tab?

you can open that and close that, it fixes the scroll bug

[restive turret]

No its for other project of mine since I don't think im allowed to share the work doc

(might not be continuous)

Im thankful for the GitHub Actions

That shit helps me so much when I'm not able to compile

[celest thorn]

Half life 3 on SL

[restive turret]

That's not related to SL lol

Since it usually requires to test plugins on sl

[covert flame]

While the player is a spectator

[upper vapor]

set their role to None

although they might not be able to hear voice chat

[covert flame]

That's the plan :]

[restive turret]

Set role to destroyed

[covert flame]

Funny thing here, without setting the role to none :]

Guys?

Where did everyone go, I'm all alone.

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[covert flame]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[restive turret]

Nice , you taken your meds

[celest thorn]

im just the crazy side of your brain

don't worry

[restive turret]

Crazy?

[celest thorn]

Crazy? I was crazy once, They locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy.

[restive turret]

This guy is crazy

[celest thorn]

i know ;(

[celest thorn]

yo crazy

this is rizz for me?

[restive turret]

Ma lawyer advise me not to answer without his presence

[celest thorn]

;(

[upper vapor]

Insane and sanen't

[covert flame]

So um, yeah

[upper vapor]

Fake the blindness effect

[restive turret]

Or just blind then

[celest thorn]

you can?

[upper vapor]

With a bit of magic, probably

Let's make serverless SL

[restive turret]

So tru

[celest thorn]

I was thinking about it

but

its too crazy

even for me

but i've managed to make it

the player was connecting and was using 10mb

lol

[restive turret]

Also yes you can indeed send a fake rpc :)

[celest thorn]

i know that

[restive turret]

I mean you can actually do it

Because player has GO of those stuff

[restive turret]

Half of them was mirror related stuff i guess

[celest thorn]

10mb of ram thats it

that was what i meant

btw what game could i play

[restive turret]

Idk

I making a game

[celest thorn]

imma be honest

[restive turret]

Yes

[celest thorn]

im thinking why not remaking the source engine physics

with primitives

it would be cool asf

[restive turret]

Wait is LabApi and ACS has a circular dependency?

[celest thorn]

what?

[restive turret]

Labapi req acs, acs requires labapi

Because ACS calls LabApi and labapi depends on ACS

How did you guys managed to make that

[celest thorn]

ACS?

what is ACS?

[restive turret]

Assembly

CSharp

acs

Easier to say

[covert flame]

Okay so actually now how do I blind a player without changing their role?

[icy knoll]

effect blinded

[covert flame]

Their role is a spectator

[celest thorn]

yea it is a dependency

i think even the client has it

[restive turret]

Ok but

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/350m59n2.png

[restive turret]

How did they make it as a circular dependency

[celest thorn]

from killing demons to creating houses

[celest thorn]

idk

[covert flame]

Their role is a spectator

[covert flame]

It's been 2 hours since I asked a question, still no answer, my rations are almost depleted, I dont know how much longer I'll be able to hold on, someone, please, someone out there, send help

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

idk how to do that tbh

[covert flame]

Same..

[royal mica]

Fake spawn a PrimitiveObject in front of the camera

[grand flower]

What are you trying to do exactly

[covert flame]

Fake spawn?

[covert flame]

Blindness effect to a spectator

[royal mica]

Yeah, client side only Primitive

[covert flame]

ahhh

[grand flower]

Check how effects are networked

[royal mica]

But why EnableEffect doesn't work

[grand flower]

Add blindness to the player they're observing

[covert flame]

I dunno, I did EnableEffect and it did not do it

[royal mica]

I actually do not see anything that is preventing from it happening

[grand flower]

Effects dont work on spectators

[royal mica]

It does though? Flashbang works

[grand flower]

You see the effects of the player you're observing

[royal mica]

So there is a way to display effects

[grand flower]

^

Obviously manually via an rpc

So the actual player doesn't get blinded

Or well, you should really give it to all live players

That way if the spectator changes target, they'll stay blinded

At least in theory

[covert flame]

So umm, you might have to dumb that down for me :]

[grand flower]

I'm in bed, it's 2 am, the others can take over

[covert flame]

O.o

Fair enough, get sleep

[spare zodiac]

yo does someone know how is the gameObject counting players before round starts called?

[royal mica]

Is it possible that the Client receives the list of Effects the user has and displays it locally?

Cause all I'm seeing is RefHub syncing statuses and not effects

[covert flame]

Okay, well is there a way to set which player a spectator is spectating?

[royal mica]

I can see Hitmarker and Decont syncing

[royal mica]

You mean a list of players spectating someone OR setting someone to spectate someone specific

[covert flame]

Setting

Let me guess, you cant

[spare zodiac]

you should be able to

is there a setter for it?

[grand flower]

No, it's clientside afaik

You'll know who they're spectating but you cant set it

[covert flame]

Called it

[upper vapor]

check CharacterClassManager::Init

[royal mica]

I see a setter in PlayerRoles.Spectating.SpectatorNetworking but I suspect this is a ServerSide syncing and not a two way check

[spare zodiac]

ghuh?

[royal mica]

despite it being called SyncedSpectatedNetId it is not a syncvar lol

[upper vapor]

decompile it

[spare zodiac]

@unique crane would you be that epic and look in unity please?

[royal mica]

Possibly very cursed, but maaybe you could override the spectator value

[royal mica]

💀 You can look in the Assembly-Csharp.dll yourself

use ILSpy / DNSpy / Dotpeek

[covert flame]

When isn't it cursed?

[royal mica]

when your plugin only has the static Main function

when you do : Plugin it's over

Speedrunning SCP:SL cursed plugin dev any%
0:01, has a single change : Plugin

[covert flame]

Crazy work

[spare zodiac]

kinda hard without pc

[celest thorn]

if i can ask does someone know if colors get sanitized by unity because in the docs its written

"This structure is used throughout Unity to pass colors around. Each color component is a floating point value with a range from 0 to 1."

If i use a number higher than 1 will it still work or get Clamped to 1

[royal mica]

How are you devving without a PC then

[royal mica]

Will work above 1, you have to manually clamp it

minus values work as well

you can spawn a primitive light with 100000 100000 100000

[celest thorn]

wait

[upper vapor]

int playerCount = ReferenceHub.GetPlayerCount(ClientInstanceMode.ReadyClient, ClientInstanceMode.Host, ClientInstanceMode.Dummy);

[celest thorn]

i always thought it was clamp

automatically

this is crazy

[covert flame]

I wish I could just like, move the palyer's camera into the void

[celest thorn]

you cannot do that

[upper vapor]

you can do that

move the spectated player to the void

[royal mica]

You can do that

[upper vapor]

PlayerValidatedVisiblity

[covert flame]

That's crazy

[royal mica]

player.Position = new Vector(-500, -500, -500)

[upper vapor]

there's a vector for this

up * 6000

[spare zodiac]

getting information and applying them on 17th

I might need to go through each gameobject again

[royal mica]

No fucking way. I was using CTRL+SHIFT+F this whole time, SHIFTx3 works searching in files

[royal mica]

ah

[spare zodiac]

information I got for now is me maybe creating my own framework

[royal mica]

https://xkcd.com/927/ sigh

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[spare zodiac]

XDD

[grand flower]

Actually thats a good solution

Whenever you wanna blind the spectator just make them unable to see anyone

Might work

Although I have no idea if it works for specs

[spare zodiac]

just put a mark over their screen with padding and choose colour to black

[covert flame]

Okay well if I cant give blindness efect to a spectator, can I give a different role the attachments UI thingy

[grand flower]

What exactly are you trying to do

[spare zodiac]

^^

[restive turret]

↓↓

[spare zodiac]

↓↓

[covert flame]

I want people to be abnle to cahgent heir attachments on guns but I dontw ant them to be able to spectate other players

[upper vapor]

just make them tutorial

or NoneRole

[spare zodiac]

and put workstation there

[spare zodiac]

none role can't change attachements iirc

[upper vapor]

right

[covert flame]

Then I ahve to give them every gun in the game, so they can actually change their attachments, which I dont wanna do

[grand flower]

Try the player visibility thing

[grand flower]

This

[upper vapor]

also disable receiving voice messages

[covert flame]

Already hgave

[upper vapor]

or is that covered by

nvm

[spare zodiac]

or just make a pickup there that will give them the gun if they pick it up with texttoy saying what the gun is

the mark tag would be a solution, but you wouldn't be able to see the guns

[restive turret]

Disable onchangingspectator

Or smth

Spawn a dummy and set to spec that dummy

[covert flame]

You cant set what player they spec

[restive turret]

Are you sure

[icy knoll]

idk if it's possible but like send a msg to the client to say everyone is dead except a dummy and then they will move to them when they click or smth

[restive turret]

Or just labapi doesn't have that exposed

[restive turret]

FakeSyncRole

[upper vapor]

ye

make everyone spectator

[royal mica]

You cannot

Spectated Player is 1 way sync

I do not know if you force set the NetID it changes it

Try changing PlayerRoles.Spectating.SpectatorNetworking init method

It has a currentRole2.SyncedSpectatedNetId = msg.NetId;

[celest thorn]

This game is my call

[restive turret]

Show me the decomp

[celest thorn]

i don't wanna do the dev

i wanna clean houses

[restive turret]

I wanna do dev instead of fucking waiting

[celest thorn]

bring another pc

and work on that

honestly it got boring

[covert flame]

Is there something in SpectatorRole?

[celest thorn]

i don't wanna install only fucking radiators

[royal mica]

Something?

[covert flame]

Ooo, actually, would be able to give the player the attachmentsmenu gameobject?

[royal mica]

No

That is clientside only

[covert flame]

I am going to die

[royal mica]

Anything that is to do with GUI are clientside only

[covert flame]

There is CurrentTarget in SpectatorRole

It has a setter

if (!(_curTracked == value))
{
    if (_curTracked != null)
    {
        _curTracked.OnStoppedSpectating();
    }

    _curTracked = value;
    MainCameraController.ForceUpdatePosition();
    if (value != null)
    {
        LastTrackedPlayer = (value.MainRole.TryGetOwner(out var hub) ? hub : null);
        value.OnBeganSpectating();
    }

    SpectatorTargetTracker.OnTargetChanged?.Invoke();
}```Does that look like it changes the player it spectates

[royal mica]

I think that is clientside code

SpectatorTargetTracker is Static

and a Singleton, so most probably this does not work at all

[covert flame]

Yeah I saee that now

[royal mica]

Yeah it has GUI option changing code, this is ClientSide sadly

[restive turret]

Tag NW and ask for changeability

[spare zodiac]

so why don't you disable changing spectator?

[covert flame]

Yeah right

You're having a laugh

[royal mica]

You can't

[spare zodiac]

I see

[royal mica]

Spectating is handled ClientSide

[celest thorn]

No?

[royal mica]

Yes?

[celest thorn]

there's some stuff that isn't

what you need?

[spare zodiac]

if they change spectator spawn them and turn them spactor again resetting the spectating player

[royal mica]

90% of spectating is clientside

Switching, Effects

[celest thorn]

Oh wait

[covert flame]

Okay well if I cant change the palyer that they are spectating then what are some other ways??

[celest thorn]

they changed it

like a month ago you could've changed the player spectating

[covert flame]

Oh btw, the whole point of this is to make the spectator see a black screen

[royal mica]

One of the ways I can see is FakeSyncing everyone as None for Spectators, that way client only sees nothign

Or have a Dummy that is spectated somewhere else

[covert flame]

player.Monitor.Delete();

Done

All good now

[royal mica]

Also, are you sure you want the spectators to not have anything to watch?

[restive turret]

player.Crash();

[royal mica]

idk the reason, but without much context it sounds painful

but RN I can only think of FakeSyncing roles to None for spectators tbh

[upper vapor]

are you delulu

[celest thorn]

Player.DestroyClientComputerAndEverythignTheyOwn()

[covert flame]

Player.DeleteUniverse();

[celest thorn]

player.ExplodeBalls()

player.TesticularTorsion()

[covert flame]

Player.EnlargePenis();

[celest thorn]

WHAT

NHA BRO

[royal mica]

player.Player()

[restive turret]

player.Kill

[celest thorn]

player.GetAJob()

[restive turret]

You have a param for it

[celest thorn]

wait

player.GetAJob(found: false)

[spare zodiac]

this should be added as method

[celest thorn]

easy enough to crash a player

[covert flame]

if (player.Sex == Sexes.Male)
    player.EnlargeGenitals();```

[celest thorn]

if (player.Sex == Sexes.Male)
    player.Sex = Sexes.Female

[restive turret]

Ayo

[celest thorn]

?

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/and-god-taketh-away-scp-gif-7611723066966386743

[covert flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817511826530893835/1341318489138397245/20250218_100011.gif

[celest thorn]

Why tf its so well done

this is crazy

[spare zodiac]

avarage SL dev

[celest thorn]

:3

[royal mica]

[upper vapor]

Init-only property 'Sex' can only be assigned in an object initializer, or on 'this' or 'base' in an instance constructor or an 'init' accessor
Did you mean to call the setter to 'Gender'?

[upper vapor]

fun fact

[celest thorn]

Nerd 🤓

[upper vapor]

reference mscorlib

[covert flame]

That's actually crazy

[restive turret]

*TryChangeGender

[celest thorn]

TryExplode

[covert flame]

Okay seriously, can I please have help blacking out a spectators screen

[celest thorn]

you can make their screen purple

if you want

yes you can... via fogcontrol

[upper vapor]

when foreach (var i in 10)

[upper vapor]

fake sync others' roles to none

[covert flame]

I'd prefer black but if purple is all I can get that is nice quick and easy then yeah I will go with purple

[celest thorn]

do what axwabo said

[covert flame]

fake sync?

[celest thorn]

better than the purple

[upper vapor]

RoleSyncInfo

DISCORD

HELLO)

[celest thorn]

RoleSyncInfoRoleSyncInfoRoleSyn

[upper vapor]

i did ctrl+aű

guess what

[restive turret]

foreach (var i in Uint128.MaxValue)

[upper vapor]

NOTHING HAPPENED

[celest thorn]

????

WHAT

its not control+c control+v

[royal mica]

I told you a solution. FakeSync everyone to None for Spectators

[upper vapor]

i'm to speedy for this chord

[royal mica]

That is the best solution right now

[upper vapor]

yep

[covert flame]

Crazy thing, what if I said I had no idea how to do that?

[upper vapor]

send a RoleSyncInfo

[restive turret]

Skill issue

[covert flame]

I'm gonna send a FistSyncInfo straight your way lol

[celest thorn]

We have fist??

Oh

i got the joke just now

[restive turret]

My ass

[restive turret]

[royal mica]

Look into how roles are Synced and replicate it 😄

[covert flame]

I'm gonna replicate my FistSyncInfo and send it your way isntead

[royal mica]

I needed to render stuff for specific players as well ||and created a fucking abomination||

[covert flame]

Nah im kidding lol

[royal mica]

[covert flame]

I'm a big baby that needs spoonfeeding lol, where in the world are they synced?

[royal mica]

an example: PlayerRoleManager.Update

[covert flame]

I'll get it eventually lol

[spare zodiac]

just when changing quickly respawn them and despawn

how do I know method in SL is handled on server and not on client?

and when patching how can I reference class from the assembly csharp itself?

[celest thorn]

i will leave people here decide what is crazier

Remaking gmod with complete assets and everything (physics included) in SL
or
Playing some random game

[spare zodiac]

I would love to implement the physics with you

I wanted to implement car into SL

[celest thorn]

with me

??

[spare zodiac]

if you're planning to

[celest thorn]

i'm flattered (in a good way)

[spare zodiac]

and is there any physics engines already or would that have to be recreated?

[celest thorn]

I have meow that can handle base physics of Unity

im planning to integrate that

a better system

[spare zodiac]

PhysX into SL trust

oh wait that's just thing in GPU I'm dumbass

[celest thorn]

I prefer

SOURCE ENGINE

best engine ever

idc

valve made it and they are amazing

[spare zodiac]

the primitives colliding with eachother will fuck up the entire thing but sure

crashing servers will be so easy

[celest thorn]

trust me

it will not

everything is client side

so

it will be hard to crash something that doesn't exist in the server

[covert flame]

Wait a minute, when a player dies they dont immediately spectate a player do they, because if they dont then I can just make it so they cant change to a player

[icy knoll]

no but the player hears what currently happens around them

their camera stays in the same spot

[covert flame]

Player.Audio.Destroy();

[royal mica]

Also you cannot prevent changing spectators still, cause it is handled ClientSide

[covert flame]

Oh yeah true, the event doesnt allow it

[icy knoll]

fake sync the roles of every alive person into spectator

lol

[covert flame]

Yeah back to doing that

[royal mica]

None so you do not hear them

Cause Spectator would result in VoiceChatting

[covert flame]

I still dont know how to do that lmao

[icy knoll]

OnReceivingVoiceMessage

IsAllowed = false

:3

[covert flame]

I think I found it, I dunno

[celest thorn]

hii lumi

[icy knoll]

hey zero!

[celest thorn]

how are you doing?

[royal mica]

That blocks everyone, do not know if Kitt want to block all audio

like talking to other spectators

[icy knoll]

im okie, hbu?

[celest thorn]

im doing fine :3

[icy knoll]

check channel then

[icy knoll]

goob goob :3

[covert flame]

Dead ass, how the hell you do fake a sync, with anything

[spare zodiac]

there should 100% be the iconic sound when objects collide

[upper vapor]

in this case just send the RoleSyncInfo to the player

[spare zodiac]

is the screen when player spawns with role info client side or server side?

[hearty shard]

client

iirc someone said server can deny it

[celest thorn]

Its easy 100% to do it i cannot test it tho because my dev is full of stuff

[hearty shard]

but i dont remember if thats correct

[celest thorn]

hii nameless

[hearty shard]

hi....

[celest thorn]

how are you doing?

[covert flame]

Yeah okay I've tried I've got no idea

[covert flame]

:]

[past rune]

Anyone know if we're ever gonna get an enum for LockerType and an up to date DoorName enum?

[covert flame]

Nah, NW doesn't take suggestions lol

[spare zodiac]

why are people creating transpilers?

[random scaffold]

for easy crash clients

[spare zodiac]

thank you :D

[royal mica]

Patching stuff on the fly

[spare zodiac]

but it's possible to put the main method content into prefix change it and then return false so the base method is not called

[covert flame]

Can someone tell me how to faekly sync something?

[royal mica]

The main method? you mean the Entrypoint?

[spare zodiac]

maybe this conversation will help?
#plugins-dev-chat message

[royal mica]

Multiple pointers were given to you lol

Why didn't those work

[spare zodiac]

is there a plugin in #1336031121699377213 with fake sync vars so he can see how it works?

[covert flame]

I'm brain dead, and would send a gif but I might get like warned or something

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions

[royal mica]

So you want someone to tell you 1:1 with code how to do it?

[covert flame]

I mean, I wouldn't be saying no lol

[royal mica]

this gave me a THE FUCK IS THIS DOING

[spare zodiac]

wtf

[upper vapor]

XDD

[spare zodiac]

is it public static??

[royal mica]

That is a HORRIBLE function name

it just kills all AHP processes

[upper vapor]

context matters

[royal mica]

so you do not get more AHP

[upper vapor]

AhpStat

so

[royal mica]

IMO it should have the AHP so ServerKillAllAhpPorcesses

but you are correct

[upper vapor]

not really necessary yeah

[royal mica]

it just gives a heartattack when you glance over it lol

[royal mica]

https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions/blob/main/Extensions/AppearanceExtension.cs

[upper vapor]

just send a RoleSyncInfo message to the client's connection 😭😭

[spare zodiac]

I wanted to make random chance that it's executed

[royal mica]

if you want a ticking bomb, just set random connections to null

[covert flame]

I'm sorry :[

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1097090564299694180/1330904522285125664/2c02bc96b37e82ee.gif

[royal mica]

peak plugin

[covert flame]

Why's it so hard??? Literally sounds so easy

[upper vapor]

it's okay, just

create a role sync info with role spectator

do this for every alive player

and send each to spectators

[hearty shard]

WHAT

[covert flame]

Forget it

[covert flame]

Who is the target and the reciever, I am assuming the spectator is the reciever and then target is the alive player?

[upper vapor]

yep

[covert flame]

I've actually got no idea, and that's kind of embarrassing lmao

[royal mica]

Have you looked at PlayerRoleManager.Update?

[covert flame]

No, what about it?

[royal mica]

Look at that code and you'll see

[covert flame]

Okay, I've either coded this wrongor Im testing it wrong

I give up lol, Plan P

I've been working on this for like 4 hours, I think it's time for the massive amounts of spoonfeeding please

[restive turret]

Nah

[covert flame]

Plan Q, delete the project

[restive turret]

Real

[upper vapor]

who should i reach out to about labapi loader related questions?
i don't wanna make the PR with shit changes 😭

[icy knoll]

do a git blame and see who did the majority of the loader

and then ping them here

[upper vapor]

jesus

[icy knoll]

then ping them

lol

[upper vapor]

i'm not braining

yep

@limber silo i plan to PR some changes to the loader to better accomodate embedded DLLs, is it fine if i change the behavior of some methods in AssemblyUtils? namely ResolveEmbeddedResources via LoadEmbeddedDll and LoadCompressedEmbeddedDll
i doubt anyone would use those methods other than the loader, just making sure if that's fine

i mean if i make the PR and it gets rejected i'll defiinitely find out

[restive turret]

Just make a pr

Jesus will see it

[upper vapor]

yea

[restive turret]

And req changes

[limber silo]

I dont see why it wouldnt be fine, go ahead

[upper vapor]

gotcha

[limber silo]

if we have issues ill later note it in the pr

[upper vapor]

yep, idk why i didn't think of that

[restive turret]

Man I wanna do the Pooling stuff but dont have a pc rn to build

[upper vapor]

which pooling

[restive turret]

Jesus, can you make your thing can use inside GitHub actions

[upper vapor]

that would be poggies

[restive turret]

When I'm in a pool and I have an ing.

[upper vapor]

😭

[restive turret]

The one with Cyn (i think) wanted

[upper vapor]

but

what are you pooling

[upper vapor]

subscribe to the role changed event
if the player's previous role is not spectator but is now spectating:

• go through the list of players
• send the spectator a RoleSyncInfo with spectator per alive player
  if the player was spectating but now isn't:
• go through the list of players
• send the now not spectator a RoleSyncInfo per alive player with their actual role

[restive turret]

Yo mom
(A list or smth, Like NW's Pool stuff)

[upper vapor]

ye

very simple

[restive turret]

The Pr is there

Just couldn't build it yet

[covert flame]

Thank you for breaking it down for me, and sorry I didn't understand it the first time :]

[upper vapor]

Np

[spare zodiac]

Is it possible to create the best method in SL:

Public static void Crash(bool shouldCrash)
{
    if (!shouldCrash) return;
    SubCrash();
}

public static void SubCrash()
{
    Crash(true);
}

stack overflow exception my favorite

[upper vapor]

that won't crash the server

[spare zodiac]

yeah just simple Console.ReadLine(); on start will

[upper vapor]

i can do better

for (;;);

[spare zodiac]

let's see if someone can pass this

can we get this pinned please?

[unique crane]

If you wanna be cooler

create a new thread each cycle

to take all system resources

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/ears-anime-what-is-this-girl-cute-gif-21254111

[icy knoll]

for (;;) {
Logger.Info("crash pls")
}```

for a faster crash

[limpid perch]

Quick question

[hearty shard]

oh its you

[limpid perch]

Would this be valid and, more importantly, would this block the main thread? It's not supposed to... right?

public override async void OnPlayerPreAuthenticating(PlayerPreAuthenticatingEventArgs ev)
{
    try
    {
        var result = await PlayerHasReservedSlot(ev.UserId, ev.CanJoin);
        ev.CanJoin = result;
    }
    catch(Exception ex)
    {
        Logger.Error(ex.ToString());
    }
}

public async Awaitable<bool> PlayerHasReservedSlot(string userId, bool canJoin)
{
    await Awaitable.BackgroundThreadAsync();
    
    if (!canJoin)
        return await CheckUserApi();
    
    return true;
}

public async Awaitable<bool> CheckUserApi()
{
    // Emulated waiting
    await Awaitable.WaitForSecondsAsync(1);
    return true;
}

[limpid perch]

who am I

[hearty shard]

i think by the time your waiting is over the pre auth event will have ended

[upper vapor]

Yes

It won't work

[limpid perch]

that's what I thought

[hearty shard]

you can check cedmod

pretty sure it does it there and then denies on join

[unique crane]

I suggest either

making it sync

or just kicking the user after the api request is returned

[limpid perch]

kick was my option when I was building it with action dispatcher, but wanted to go easier

and making it sync would block the main thread

[hearty shard]

david im feeling evil

[upper vapor]

[unique crane]

Well

what do you connect it to?

If its some db on the same machine

there isnt gonna be an issue

[limpid perch]

gRPC internal network

it should be <5ms

but scary blocking main thread

[unique crane]

breh I would make that sync

Just try it and see

if its gonna be noticable

make it async and wait for result from db

and then kick if not permitted

[true cedar]

just kick

idk why you wouldn't

[hearty shard]

kick pai

[limber silo]

lets see, this wont work

the issue with this is

when you make it async

[hearty shard]

jesus being late as always smh

[limber silo]

you let the main thread continue

which will use the arguments without being modified by your code

once your code is ready it will modify the argument

but it wont be used anywhere

making it innefective

[limber silo]

nobody gave him the correct answer I needed to

oh nvm they did say it wont work

[hearty shard]

Im 99% sure i did

[limber silo]

anyways what you can do is either delay the preauth or wait till they join and you have the info to kick them

[limber silo]

where is the missing 1%

[hearty shard]

i ate it

[limber silo]

expected...

[hearty shard]

wow...

[limpid perch]

forgot about delaying the preauth bruh

that was the 1%

[celest thorn]

Stupid question how is it even possible that parenting on the server doesn't break anything but parenting on the client destroys everything?

[upper vapor]

Sounds like a skull issue

Just send the local transform if you're parenting

[celest thorn]

i mean i did that

but nope

still looks like shit

i think i need to create a primitive static for each empty gameobject

or just for the root

[upper vapor]

Yep

[celest thorn]

im going to cry in my sleep

[upper vapor]

Set the flags to none and you're good

[celest thorn]

idk if really do it it could be useful to limit network calls

but at the same time its so much work because i need to find all of the empty gameobjects

and parent all of them (which is easy)

[celest thorn]

Wait

if i make it like that

in theory i can just update the single transform

and not all of them?

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/Axwabo/slocLoader/blob/labapi/slocLoader%2FAPI.Create.cs#L140

[upper vapor]

Yes

[upper vapor]

if (o.GetComponents<Component>() is [Transform])
// empty

[celest thorn]

The problem is that this would work but at the same time it doesn't

every schematic is a prefab

so i would need to find all of the empty ones

[upper vapor]

Yeah

Recursively iterate through the transforms and do this

Or

root.GetComponentsInChildren<Transform>()

[celest thorn]

But transform means everything will get double of that

so double primitive

so i should do a foreach excluding the one with a specific component

this will be the best morning

ever

[upper vapor]

What

is [Transform] checks if the only component returned by GetComponents is a transform

Pattern matching go brrr

Can't join vc rn, maybe in a few hours

[celest thorn]

nah im staying here just because none is in the other

waiting for someone lol

[restive turret]

Sorry but i cant join

[celest thorn]

don't worry :3

ok yea i think parenting is out of the window

it breaks EVERYTHING

im gonna be honest i cannot even explain why or how

but it does that

[restive turret]

Check log

[humble haven]

How i can spawn some props?
such as box, pipes ecc....

[hearty shard]

get the prefab

NetworkClient.prefabs

or smth

[humble haven]

How

[icy knoll]

they just said

use NetworkClient.prefabs, save the prefab and ye

[hearty shard]

foreach (var prefab in NetworkClient.prefabs)
{}

and then find ur prefab

you can log and see every prefab

[frosty mesa]

Anybody know how to introduce a "KeycardLevels" variable, im making a custom keycard.

[restive turret]

Publicize

https://github.com/SlejmUr/CustomItemsAPI/blob/e17d5a8eed8dbe975d87d5b9b0a75b65f497a169/CustomItemsAPI/Items/CustomKeyCardBase.cs#L85

Here some stuff for yo

[restive turret]

On mobile

[frosty mesa]

KeycardItem.CreateCustomKeycardMetal(target, "Lead Gaurd Keycard", target.Nickname, "Lead Gaurd Card", permissions:[Needs a variable of type "Keycard levels" that I cant find the constructor for] )

[upper vapor]

Is it an enum

[restive turret]

Its a struct

Or depends idk

Your IDE can help use it

[hearty shard]

Reference Assembly-CSharp.dll

from SL

[restive turret]

Oh ye that

[upper vapor]

Is it a bird

[true cedar]

eve...

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

[upper vapor]

Day after day I hate myself more for not making an SL plugin template

[restive turret]

Still issue

[upper vapor]

Still issue

Still

Steel

[restive turret]

Still your issue

[upper vapor]

Steal

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[restive turret]

I just copy my dll

[unique crane]

U want?

I have it

but for VS

not sure if it works for rider

[frosty mesa]

Ok but still, what is the constructor? Cause i cant assign a variable type unless I can do [new KeycardLevel(SomeImportantShitHere)]

[upper vapor]

Bruh

[true cedar]

how often do u make plugins where u need a template

[restive turret]

Is it newest sdk csproj style

[unique crane]

If your remaking all of your plugins to LabAPI?

yea

its handy

[restive turret]

Or still like 2003

[upper vapor]

Not that often, just better to share with others so they don't have to go through the pain

[hearty shard]

new KeycardLevels(0, 0, 0)

[unique crane]

New

[hearty shard]

or smth

[true cedar]

ah

[frosty mesa]

Wasn't showing up for me earlier. Thanks!

[upper vapor]

Does it include publicizing

[unique crane]

But I had to make LTSL_REFS instead of SL_REFS cause sl refs is used by labapi and I change the dlls there a lot

[restive turret]

Nope as u see

[unique crane]

no

But if we make plugin templates on github

we can add it there

its like that one nuget no?

Or whatever

[restive turret]

You can just remove the close and new properties stuff

[upper vapor]

You know you can define props in the csproj and not an env var
I don't wanna see that in the csproj

[unique crane]

I copied labapi csproj

[restive turret]

<PropertyGroup/><PropertyGroup> lel

[upper vapor]

Bruh

[restive turret]

Also would be cool to make labapi auto compile

In gh

[unique crane]

Wouldnt I have to change the path in every plugin csproj then..?

[upper vapor]

You can keep the properties and env var

[restive turret]

you can include either a .prop.user or from env

[upper vapor]

Probably better to set AssemblySearchPaths though

[upper vapor]

Me when .NET doesn't automatically import Directory.Build.props.user

[unique crane]

I would also like to do item templates

Cause why not

like for command classes

[restive turret]

https://github.com/SlejmUr/CustomItemsAPI/blob/e17d5a8eed8dbe975d87d5b9b0a75b65f497a169/Directory.Build.targets#L4

[upper vapor]

One day we'll have source-generated commands
I hate ICommand

[restive turret]

Using ENV if dont have the user file

[true cedar]

never

[upper vapor]

False

[unique crane]

How would you imagine them

[upper vapor]

Meanwhile everyone having the env var named differently

[unique crane]

like the syntax for a command

[restive turret]

Not my issue

Can edit it

[upper vapor]

It's very low-level and boilerplate-y
I worked 3 years on my command system but it's not the best fit for all use cases

A source generator is lightweight and would make it much simpler to avoid having to implement every prop yourself
I like the attribute approach more
Also things like player-only checks and min arguments and argument parsing overall

You gotta have the same shi over and over

[humble haven]

I did it, but how can I keep a prop in a specific room? I used the position, but the position always changes...

[humble haven]

.

[upper vapor]

room.Transform.TransformPoint(offset)

Also rotate it by the room's rotation

[upper vapor]

Imagine if you declared string Execute(ItemType item, int count, IEnumerable<Player> players) and it would just work

Just an example

[true cedar]

oh thats what u mean

[unique crane]

Ohhhhhhhh

I get it

[true cedar]

that would be neat but like

[unique crane]

Yeah that would be cool

[true cedar]

i feel like u could do the same thing without a source generator

i mean

[upper vapor]

Reflection though

Ugh

[unique crane]

Ofc if you do it via reflection or something

[upper vapor]

I did some diabolical things
I wanted to make a reflection-based parser
Decided not to

[true cedar]

reflection or have a Command<T>, Command<T1, T2>, Command<T1, T2, T3>

[upper vapor]

I'm NOT defining all those types

[unique crane]

skull

[upper vapor]

And how do you test for those at runtime

Reflection?

[true cedar]

wdym

[upper vapor]

Like you gotta pass arguments to it

How do you check what it needs

[true cedar]

u have an Execute(T), Execute(T1, T2)

then similar to how mirror has Writer<T> you could do like Parser<T>

[upper vapor]

But you need to call that method

[true cedar]

what about it

[restive turret]

Execute(_runner)

[true cedar]

im not saying this is a good approach

[upper vapor]

Am I stupid

[true cedar]

im just saying its an approach

i might be bad at explaining it

[upper vapor]

So yeah then you have to re-declare the parsing from arraysegment and calling every time

Also I would use Spans :3

[true cedar]

well for each Command<T, ..> you'd have to

[restive turret]

Who's you spanning

[true cedar]

if thats what u mean

[hearty shard]

do i add to secret api a command parser

[true cedar]

reflection is prob the best approach tho ngl

[spare zodiac]

can you disable certain props not to be spawned?

[true cedar]

could cache the method or do something like that to make it faster

[true cedar]

if u want!!!

[hearty shard]

idk

this is gonna be annoying to figure out

@upper vapor mind if i steal parts of ur code

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-payday-duffel-bag-gif-9535754319453652151

POV: Ax's code

[restive turret]

PD2

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/Misfiy/SecretAPI/pull/68/files

idk

this is barely anything

[true cedar]

holy shit that was fast

[hearty shard]

because therees fuck all

[true cedar]

still

[upper vapor]

what part

[restive turret]

Thanks for inspiration gif

[upper vapor]

i don't even have a parser really

[hearty shard]

i havent figured out yet !

but theres probably useful stuff

[upper vapor]

also yeah

bool & out string response

horrible

[hearty shard]

what do you even use instead

[upper vapor]

tuple or struct

[hearty shard]

GU H

tuple moment

[upper vapor]

i can just say return "Success"; or return "!Failure";

[hearty shard]

idk tf im doing

tbh

@true cedar i dont understand bitwise, can u explain :3

[true cedar]

u know how integers are just

bits

000100

1100010

[hearty shard]

mhmm

[true cedar]

shit like that

okay well

if you do

bitwise operators

it just performs operations on corresponding bits

so if you do
101 & 100 = 100
111 & 000 = 000
111 & 111 = 111

since flags are represented by just setting a bit to true

we basically do:
101 & 001 = 001

but if it was 100, 100 & 001 = 000 (doesn't equal 001)

does that make sense

[hearty shard]

not at all

😭

[true cedar]

um

well

[upper vapor]

read it again

[true cedar]

1 & 1 = 1
1 & 0 = 0
0 & 1 = 0
0 & 0 = 0

it just does taht for every bit

[upper vapor]

truth tables my beloved

[hearty shard]

am i understanding that the (bit & bit) == intendedresult just disables the bits that dont match, and leaves the ones intende in tact and then checks if it matches

idk if that makes sense

like just switches the stuff u dont want to check off and then checks the ==

[restive turret]

Me when i just open online c# compile and set my values three

There

[restive turret]

& and | is a boolean operator

Or whatever the name

[upper vapor]

bitwise and, bitwise or

[restive turret]

Bitwise ye

[upper vapor]

"bitwise and bitwise, okay, or what?"

[upper vapor]

yeah something like this
if both 1, you get one
repeat for each bit

[true cedar]

yea basically

if it helps

[hearty shard]

oki doki

[upper vapor]

now the question is if you can figure out how to "add/remove" flags

[true cedar]

List<bool> BitwiseAnd(List<bool> firstInt, List<bool> secondInt)
{
    List<bool> result = new(32);

    for (int i = 0; i < 32; i++)
    {
        bool f = firstInt[i];
        bool s = secondInt[i];

        result.Add(f && s);
    }
}

obviously its a lot faster than this but

if u think of an int as a list of bools

for bitwise or replace && with ||

[hearty shard]

~ |=

or smth

[upper vapor]

almost

[hearty shard]

&= ~

[upper vapor]

i mean you can just check NW code

[hearty shard]

i checked my own code

[upper vapor]

oh lmao

[hearty shard]

|=

anyway it wasnt about "how to do this"

it was "how does this actually work"

[upper vapor]

the premise is basically the same
you take each bit that either of the values have as 1
0010 | 0100 = 0110
for removing you flip the flag bits and & it

[hearty shard]

when cola nerf

[upper vapor]

nerf it yourself

also why tf would you nerf cola

it's been nerfed already

[hearty shard]

nerf it

make it 5% speed instead of 15%

[upper vapor]

the humble Slowness effect:

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gif-24496241

[hearty shard]

im making it official to ruin 207 forever

[upper vapor]

dw, NW has already tried nerfing the speed

they got severe backlash from the community

[hearty shard]

worth

nerf it

[carmine prawn]

💀

any event like OnPlayerDamagingDoorcan i isAllow = false ?

[icy knoll]

go ahead and see

or just use the destroying door event and see if it has a player or smth

[carmine prawn]

LabAPI doesn't seem to have such an event

but they have OnPlayerDamagingWindow

[upper vapor]

patch damageabledoor

*breakabledoor

[carmine prawn]

just patch BreakableDoor.ServerDamage?

[upper vapor]

ye

[carmine prawn]

not bad

LabAPI please add this event

[upper vapor]

issues tab: haiiiii

[icy knoll]

so many issues there and internally that i don’t think they will be viewed for a while…

[upper vapor]

at david :3

[icy knoll]

i pinged david to add syncing client side mutes to the server and they ignored me…

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-tweaking-tweak-freaking-out-freak-out-gif-15844619383535388547

[carmine prawn]

[celest thorn]

Is it possible to trigger an aniamtion of the item using without causing the item to give you the effect?

[hearty shard]

yes...

with a patch!