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upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 8:58 AM

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Csproj

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 8:58 AM

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Ah ye

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 8:58 AM

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Tf is this window

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 8:58 AM

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Because rider

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Edit the csproj by hand

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 8:58 AM

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restive turret Because rider

Does vs let you switch to .net standard

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greyfox_sus

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 8:58 AM

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Idk

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 8:58 AM

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Xd

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 8:58 AM

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I only edited with csproj directly

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 8:59 AM

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It can't even change the c# version

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Cuz microsot

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 8:59 AM

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I can in the xsproj file

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Not in any window

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 8:59 AM

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But not in the ide's gui

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Yeah

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 8:59 AM

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thonkong

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:00 AM

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I think your csrpoj is old

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 9:00 AM

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Probably

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Show csproj

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Must be SDK-style

covert flame Jun 25, 2025, 9:01 AM

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See that's what I did right, and guess what, they are still assigned to the group when joining back

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:02 AM

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yeah .net standard 2.1 doesn't have it either

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:02 AM

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F

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Ah ye as aywabo said its statted from net7

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So yeah

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:03 AM

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eh i'll whip up something clean without static methods in interfaces

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just a little annoying

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:13 AM

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grand flower

rip

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:14 AM

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unity moment

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:14 AM

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Old c# moment

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Cant wait unity to be in net8

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Or well

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Net10

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:15 AM

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mildly annoyed at having to get a hacky workaround

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:15 AM

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Since it will took them years

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:15 AM

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restive turret Net10

if unity doesn't shoot itself in the foot about 30 times by then

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maybe more

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:15 AM

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Well

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Unity does it every week

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I'm so glad I don't use unity for gamedev

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

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unreal

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C++17 minimum, C++20 supported (mostly)

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

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That's sucks too for be

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

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be?

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

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*mw

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Me

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

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how so

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

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Installing 100gb

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Or idk

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Last time it required like 80?

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:18 AM

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depends on the optional stuff you add but yeah, it is a bit big

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:18 AM

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And also hate writing C++ so that is definitely NOT for me

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:18 AM

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actually

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my install is 80gb but 50gb is from debug symbols

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:19 AM

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What the fuuuu

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 9:19 AM

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restive turret Net10

yippeeee

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:19 AM

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so if you get rid of that it's more like ~25/26

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:19 AM

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50GB of debug symbols

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:19 AM

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Yeah, we get full engine sources

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😎

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 9:19 AM

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grand flower my install is 80gb but 50gb is from debug symbols

what the actual

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:19 AM

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grand flower Yeah, we get full engine sources

Duh liek

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:19 AM

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jokes aside I couldn't imagine like

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working with a closed source engine

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:20 AM

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restive turret Duh liek

I can download it from their repo

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:20 AM

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the amount of times I dive into the engine's source per day, couldn't imagine not being able to

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:20 AM

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Unity

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ClassDTrollHD

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:20 AM

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im good mmLul

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i generally compile the engine from source anyway

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it's needed for advanced stuff

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:21 AM

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Ye i aksed ChatGPT for game engines and result was stride Fear

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:21 AM

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lol

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:21 AM

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I mean i was specific what I want

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Like must be 3rd and C# support

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Throw godot too but hell nah

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:22 AM

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Me when SL itself is 4.5x larger in size than Unity engine itself

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:22 AM

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While it calls the engine itself for many shit I ain't wanna touch it

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:23 AM

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unique crane Me when SL itself is 4.5x larger in size than Unity engine itself

Like duh ofc

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Many asset

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:24 AM

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ik

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Most of it is just textures and audio

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:25 AM

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Me who doesn't even use any texture other then low/very low

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Btw while you there

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Check how many space without more than medium texture

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:26 AM

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How tf do I do that

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:26 AM

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Idk

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 9:26 AM

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isn't texture downscaling handled by unity?

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:26 AM

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Removed texture

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Idk

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I never used unity

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:31 AM

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restive turret Like must be 3rd and C# support

3rd?

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:31 AM

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3d*

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:32 AM

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Unreal supports C# if you use UnrealSharp DogKek

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:32 AM

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Uh

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I don't know if want that

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:32 AM

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(probs not)

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not production ready

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:33 AM

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Guessed by the KEK

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:33 AM

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I mean

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I'm looking forward to it being stable

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If anything it'll be nice to add a C# modding layer to games

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:34 AM

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Yup

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Is it os?

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:34 AM

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https://github.com/UnrealSharp/UnrealSharp

GitHub

GitHub - UnrealSharp/UnrealSharp: UnrealSharp is a plugin to Unreal...

UnrealSharp is a plugin to Unreal Engine 5, which enables developers to create games using C# (.NET 9) with Hot Reload - UnrealSharp/UnrealSharp

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:36 AM

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Crazy

covert flame Jun 25, 2025, 9:36 AM

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covert flame See that's what I did right, and guess what, they are still assigned to the grou...

@upper vapor ^

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:37 AM

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tbh I was thinking about Lua for my project's modding layer

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but if UnrealSharp gets stable & adds Linux support I'll go with it

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much better

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:37 AM

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grand flower tbh I was thinking about Lua for my project's modding layer

Lua is good

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I like lua

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:37 AM

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I love Lua but it can't compete with C# imo

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for modding

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:37 AM

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It has its advantages

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but also disadvantages

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but if you look at modding for unreal/other engines

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its Lua most of the time

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Its also safe for client mods

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:38 AM

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It's probably the easiest to implement

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:38 AM

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Because you can disable some packages

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:38 AM

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You can do the same with C# provided clients compile it themselves, just a lot more of a hassle

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:38 AM

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Yeah but like

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tell average player to compile c#

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xd

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:39 AM

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Can do it automatically for them

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:39 AM

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Eeeeeeehhhh

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:39 AM

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Just have to redistribute the compiler with the game

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s&box does it

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works fine for them DogKek

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:39 AM

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Lua better

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:39 AM

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I <3 coroutines

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:39 AM

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Its just less work

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:39 AM

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I'll think about it

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I'm fine with putting the work in if it provides a good modding API in the end

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:40 AM

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Ill show you what you need to do in c# to run Lua engine

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:40 AM

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oh I know, I've implemented lua stuff in games before

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it's easy

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:40 AM

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unique crane but if you look at modding for unreal/other engines

Roblox:

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:40 AM

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Unreal also has LuaMachine as a plugin that does it all so

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pretty simple

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:40 AM

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Even Cheat Engine has lua

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:40 AM

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Or you can do Python but

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ew Python

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:41 AM

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I mean listen

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I'll defend python

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It's great for some things

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Just not

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Game development

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:41 AM

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Yeah for some fast script and AI

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sure

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:42 AM

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Computational computing with python can be so much better sometimes

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Partially because there's already so many libraries

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:42 AM

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Yeah because you call C functions

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:42 AM

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Yeah but I couldn't do it without python

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I mean I could

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But it would be

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Painful

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:42 AM

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I mean you can call external libs in C#

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:43 AM

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There aren't as many for C#

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Also like automation and shit

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I could do this in C# but it would be more complicated

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The benefit of python is it's high-level nature

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:43 AM

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Yes

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I said that

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for some fast scripts

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its good

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 9:44 AM

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slate flume I could do this in C# but it would be more complicated

what most people think a normal script looks like

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:44 AM

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icy knoll what most people think a normal script looks like

Lmao I actually made that entire thing myself and I'm proud 💪🏼

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Even made a lil math document to go with it

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:46 AM

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Me when I actually have general idea of what does it all mean

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Math? Im more of a math person

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:47 AM

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I love math

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 9:47 AM

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so true

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:47 AM

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I never took comp sci or really any of those kinds of STEM topics outside of like a 10th grade level but I've done enough studying myself to learn a lot of this shit

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Fuck misstyped

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 9:48 AM

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Lmao

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Slejm you're iconic

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 9:48 AM

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grand flower

add mscorlib.dll

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oh

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nvm you cant make it forced abstract

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i dont think

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why do u even need that

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:49 AM

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stuff

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 9:49 AM

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guh

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:50 AM

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would be cleaner in the interface but it's fine

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 9:50 AM

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static AND abstract?

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guh

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:50 AM

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yes

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i'll just have a registry of handlers to do the same

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no biggie

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 9:57 AM

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covert flame <@435474959595208704> ^

can you show your code?

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 9:58 AM

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unique crane ew Python

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 9:58 AM

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slate flume Computational computing with python can be so much better sometimes

for:

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https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gif-24496241

Tenor

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 9:59 AM

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slate flume I could do this in C# but it would be more complicated

how manny comments 😭
half of that is just comments

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 10:01 AM

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hearty shard static AND abstract?

we're stuck 4 years behind Heartbreaking

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 10:07 AM

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slate flume Even made a lil math document to go with it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1286286510416597022/1376310515470569522/20240318_152245.jpg?ex=685d124d&is=685bc0cd&hm=7be60a184d1145e11725afdedc41686fa617540931474ac01b6a73f8c88ccdb9&

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 10:15 AM

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restive turret https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1286286510416597022/1376310515470569522/2...

Real shit

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I love meth

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 10:42 AM

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slate flume Slejm you're iconic

SteamHappy

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 10:45 AM

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@grand flower ez_2 layout has only 5 end rooms, you could filter out seeds that choose this layout

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for the red room ensuring thing

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 10:45 AM

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If i can get the data without generating the actual map

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Otherwise I'll have to restart round with every possible seed hah

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 10:46 AM

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grand flower If i can get the data without generating the actual map

yeah

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check the atlas generators

covert flame Jun 25, 2025, 11:08 AM

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upper vapor can you show your code?

I'm literally just doing ServerStatic.PermissionsHandler.Members[playerUserId] = "usergroup"; if the userId equals something and that code is in the OnPreAuthenticated event

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:08 AM

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yeah

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but when you want to remove them

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:09 AM

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grand flower If i can get the data without generating the actual map

MapAtlasInterpretation.Interpret(Texture2D atlas, System.Random rng)

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with the Rnd being new Random(Seed)

covert flame Jun 25, 2025, 11:09 AM

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Oh, well in the same event, if the userid does not equal that something and they are in that usergroup then I do ServerStatic.PermissionsHandler.Members.Remove(playerUserId);

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:09 AM

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and atlas being TExture2D from AtlasZoneGenerator.Atlases

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:10 AM

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does labapi replace " with ' in yaml configs or YamlDotNet?

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:10 AM

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YamlDotNet does that

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:10 AM

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damn it

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i have this config value @"[^a-zA-Z0-9\s,.!?']"

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but yamldotnet keeps on fucking up people's configs when it generates

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so much fun

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:11 AM

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you could match non-word characters too

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or

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word chars

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:11 AM

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upper vapor you could match non-word characters too

wdym

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:11 AM

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wait

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what'§s tthe exact purpose of this regex

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:12 AM

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covert flame Oh, well in the same event, if the userid does not equal that something and they...

uh

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:12 AM

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And do you really need to put it in config

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:12 AM

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upper vapor what'§s tthe exact purpose of this regex

block everything that isn’t a normal english sentence

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:12 AM

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unique crane And do you really need to put it in config

yes it’s a text chat plugin

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:12 AM

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then

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\w does that

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:12 AM

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Yea

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:13 AM

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upper vapor \w does that

what is that?

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:13 AM

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Regex

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\w

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:13 AM

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\w matches any word character

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\W matches any non-word character

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 11:13 AM

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Doesn't \W match ?!:; as well?

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:13 AM

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yes

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:14 AM

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upper vapor \w matches any word character

i also wanna match like ‘ and stuff

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to allow it

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 11:14 AM

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icy knoll i also wanna match like ‘ and stuff

You need to serialize the string as ''

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:14 AM

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yamldotnet should escape it for you

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:16 AM

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Why do you put regex in there actually

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Like... almost every country will have to put their alphabet in there

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:16 AM

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unique crane Why do you put regex in there actually

if the regex matches, it doesn’t pass

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:16 AM

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\w wouldnt work for Czech for example

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:16 AM

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unique crane Like... almost every country will have to put their alphabet in there

it’s an example regex

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:16 AM

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as we have to add our

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:16 AM

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you can remove it

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:17 AM

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icy knoll if the regex matches, it doesn’t pass

Ohhh so its blacklist regex

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I though its allowed messages regex

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:17 AM

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unique crane Ohhh so its blacklist regex

ye

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:17 AM

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Okay fine then

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:17 AM

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if it doesn’t pass then msg goes through fine

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 11:17 AM

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Alright

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:18 AM

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good luck with homoglyphs toomuchtrolling

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 11:18 AM

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well the regex doesn’t allow anything that isn’t a-Z 0-9 lol

covert flame Jun 25, 2025, 11:22 AM

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upper vapor uh

So uh

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:22 AM

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check the members dictionary in the joined event

covert flame Jun 25, 2025, 11:55 AM

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upper vapor check the members dictionary in the joined event

Nevermind, it does work, the problem was my permissions file was all screwed up for some reason

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 11:55 AM

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CFbruh

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 12:23 PM

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Why does doing this cause my grenades to do crazy damage?

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It's enough for the grenades to one-shot someone at 1000 hp

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And it's not that the fuse end code is running multiple times, I tried adding a clause to fix that and it didn't work

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 12:44 PM

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slate flume Why does doing this cause my grenades to do crazy damage?

the referencehub isn't on the collider itself

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you need to get the root transform and trygetcomponent that

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 12:46 PM

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collider.transform.root

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 3:19 PM

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how cool would it be if we could force player to move their cursor and not their camera? Like imagine getting them to click on hints and that could cause event if certain tag would be used for text.

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 3:35 PM

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spare zodiac how cool would it be if we could force player to move their cursor and not their...

in other words: imagine how cool it would be to get sabotaged because you joined a random server youve never played on.

severe cave Jun 25, 2025, 3:38 PM

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icy knoll in other words: imagine how cool it would be to get sabotaged because you joined...

I mean thats cool

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 3:38 PM

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not really

worthy rune Jun 25, 2025, 3:38 PM

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icy knoll in other words: imagine how cool it would be to get sabotaged because you joined...

i dont think you understood what they were asking for

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 3:39 PM

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they are asking for a way to move a cursor

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atleast that's what it seems like

worthy rune Jun 25, 2025, 3:40 PM

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yeah, the upside would be pretty huge if done correctly

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and they are asking for something like using TMPs Link(similar to how its done in the RA)

icy knoll Jun 25, 2025, 3:41 PM

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i dont think a plugin having mouse access is at all good for security

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link will be messy tho

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imagine someone puts a link over the whole screen or smth

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oops

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clicked

worthy rune Jun 25, 2025, 3:43 PM

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think of the interactable toy but for the UI, they wouldnt have access to where the click was made(unless they used 100s of them)

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you need both the free cursor msg and TMP link to make it work

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 3:55 PM

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icy knoll imagine someone puts a link over the whole screen or smth

I can make that with mark tag already and images on whole screen isn't anything new

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 3:56 PM

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icy knoll i dont think a plugin having mouse access is at all good for security

not what I meant I don't want to move the cursor around just force it to be moved around and unforce, person would still be in power of esc > leave

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 3:57 PM

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worthy rune you need both the free cursor msg and TMP link to make it work

link is not what I mean, due to not being able to get what text the person clicked, but just pointing them out to website which would be baad, using the steams website viewing system that is pain

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I am thinking of this for medical system I am currently making or generally NPC interaction some dialogue type thing or shop interaction

when I look at this I don't feel like this would be great making it where they would press key it would bring the cursor instead and if they would press esc similar to pressing p telling them press "key" to untoggle cursor

true cedar Jun 25, 2025, 3:59 PM

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at some point just make a new game

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 3:59 PM

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atp KILL PAI

true cedar Jun 25, 2025, 4:00 PM

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yeah okay

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mods

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:00 PM

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true cedar at some point just make a new game

I like adding stuff to the existing game where I would not have to write, model everxthing from scratch

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:01 PM

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true cedar mods

modification of the game would not be very great, because not everyone knows how to do stuff with computer and NW developers expressed already that automatically downloading stuff would not be good idea at all.

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:02 PM

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true cedar mods

oh wait you meant mods as moderators 💀

true cedar Jun 25, 2025, 4:05 PM

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yea

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:10 PM

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silly idea but does anyone know how to add music into an elevater in scp sl

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:10 PM

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pastel bramble silly idea but does anyone know how to add music into an elevater in scp sl

yes, use speaker toys

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:10 PM

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mhm.....

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:11 PM

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you can get the gameobject of elevators and make coroutines of teleporting the speaker to elevator and play music inside

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 4:11 PM

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just parent the speaker to the elevator chamber

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:11 PM

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btw any ideas what RP mechanic could I make?

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:12 PM

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upper vapor just parent the speaker to the elevator chamber

thats way simpler

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:12 PM

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spare zodiac btw any ideas what RP mechanic could I make?

what do you already hove

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:12 PM

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pastel bramble thats way simpler

do you know how to do it though?

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:12 PM

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or what ideas you got

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:13 PM

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pastel bramble what do you already hove

server system room being useful, chemical system, planning for medical system, pain killer, SCP-207 liquid, 049-2 being NPC, maybe diseases later

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:13 PM

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hmm......

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:13 PM

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everything can be then used by developer, fully modular plugin

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:14 PM

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ok what about if you had something along the lines of a minimap for ntf

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heard the idea from a friend

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:14 PM

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pastel bramble ok what about if you had something along the lines of a minimap for ntf

oh yeah that is possible I saw it even, could be great idea

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:14 PM

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i added mc donalds into scp sl using mer

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:15 PM

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implementing it as custom item similar from contaiment breach

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:15 PM

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pastel bramble i added mc donalds into scp sl using mer

gg

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:15 PM

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yeah

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:15 PM

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spare zodiac gg

struggled a bit but it was worth it

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:15 PM

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now SCP:SL players can get a job

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:15 PM

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mhm

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:16 PM

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spare zodiac server system room being useful, chemical system, planning for medical system, p...

forgot to say armor durability

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:16 PM

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i need to thank @rose bridge for the actual like design he made it i put it ingame and did more stuff to make it more fun

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he is truly a legend

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:17 PM

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this is my chemical system alone

rn_image_picker_lib_temp_53780acc-2763-433a-9d3e-6fce2bfe2554.jpg

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:17 PM

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spare zodiac this is my chemical system alone

dayum

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:17 PM

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there could be way more implemented into it, but yeah I will have whole summer to work on this bad boy

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:18 PM

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you could try adding something along the lines of a sheild

rose bridge Jun 25, 2025, 4:18 PM

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pastel bramble i need to thank <@1272007011395047577> for the actual like design he made it i p...

thanks lol

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:18 PM

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no prob u deserve it

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:18 PM

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pastel bramble you could try adding something along the lines of a sheild

I don't want to go into the depths of using models, everything made here can be used without installing other plugins

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:19 PM

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what about just diffrent clasases

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:19 PM

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what pmo me is the corpses where they are not synchronized with the client side and I can't get the client to return gameObject they personally see

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:19 PM

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like a tank or a medic?

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:19 PM

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custom roles could be made, but that's already been done by frameworks and developers/players can make it with other plugins

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:20 PM

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mhm......

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:20 PM

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I love C#

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:20 PM

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i dont know tbh you could try adding something along the lines of like sneaking below something

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to hide

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i dont know

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dead by daylight ah lockers

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:21 PM

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I can make players be able to sit into chairs Trolley

pastel bramble Jun 25, 2025, 4:22 PM

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yassssssssss

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:23 PM

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I would love to use navmesh and make more NPC's, but I've heard that HCZ is absulutely fucked and Navmesh path can't be calculated correctly

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:41 PM

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spare zodiac this is my chemical system alone

Hydrogen Chloride, Muriatic Acid, ,Caustic Soda.
Best recipe by PayDay

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We cooking at this facility

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🔥

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:43 PM

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spare zodiac I would love to use navmesh and make more NPC's, but I've heard that HCZ is absu...

Yep.
It is hell

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:43 PM

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restive turret Hydrogen Chloride, Muriatic Acid, ,Caustic Soda. Best recipe by PayDay

it is possible to make that easily

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I provided classes that can be just inherited and then use method RegisterAll to automatically register the thing you added

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:44 PM

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Do we have a table or what

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:44 PM

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table?

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:44 PM

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Or whatever the thing that mix

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:45 PM

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the thing in SL I have no clue how it's called rn

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centrifuge yeah

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:45 PM

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Ye

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Wait

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Centrifuge is not that

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Thanks to gregtech(!) its not a mixer

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:46 PM

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restive turret Thanks to gregtech(!) its not a mixer

in implementation of the plugin it's used for that, I aim at certain level of balance between realism and fun gameplay

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:48 PM

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Can be simply named "Mixing Bowl" or smth

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:49 PM

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restive turret Can be simply named "Mixing Bowl" or smth

I am using base game models and that one is called centrifuge, it's not showing anywhere the name only if you raycast, so it may be called whatever you want

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:49 PM

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I didn't see any basegame model for centrifuge

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:49 PM

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restive turret I didn't see any basegame model for centrifuge

I will show you the model in a second

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it is in 939 and micro HID lab

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:50 PM

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spare zodiac I would love to use navmesh and make more NPC's, but I've heard that HCZ is absu...

Also for this:

Requires StateMachines
I don't understand StateMachines
Can't really make one

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:51 PM

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centrifuge

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restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:51 PM

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Ohhh

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Yes that's a centrifuge

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As i see used for blood

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Cant wait to make a custom map for it that goes same as "No Mercy"

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 4:53 PM

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Oh woah woah

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I wanna do payday gamemode

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:53 PM

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david waduup

unique crane Jun 25, 2025, 4:53 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805416872962818078/1382760792981504042/AlmirToastEater.gif

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:53 PM

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I made drug system in SL

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:53 PM

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The goat

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David

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Can we have navmesh in rooms

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:54 PM

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navmesh is not hard to make, though NW premade thingy that would actually work would be useful

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:56 PM

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Wish me luck, gonna learn how statemachine works

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:57 PM

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restive turret Wish me luck, gonna learn how statemachine works

statemachine?

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what are you talking about

plain gazelle Jun 25, 2025, 4:57 PM

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unique crane I wanna do payday gamemode

omg yes

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:57 PM

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Fear SCP096Blob

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:57 PM

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there is MIT premade pathfinding

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:57 PM

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What does that mean

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:57 PM

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restive turret What does that mean

MIT license, can use for any use

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lemme give you the github link

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 4:58 PM

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Oh I wanna make my own ai

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Which is need high amount of work

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And understand many stuff

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I got the basic like.
"Go there, get this".
But dont really have a goal system or anything

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 4:59 PM

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this chad swift craft
https://github.com/SwiftKraft-Plugin-Devs/SwiftNPCs

GitHub

GitHub - SwiftKraft-Plugin-Devs/SwiftNPCs: Open Source SCP: SL NPC API

Open Source SCP: SL NPC API. Contribute to SwiftKraft-Plugin-Devs/SwiftNPCs development by creating an account on GitHub.

sinful bronze Jun 25, 2025, 5:04 PM

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switfkraft 🙏

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 5:06 PM

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Damn

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 5:12 PM

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restive turret Wish me luck, gonna learn how statemachine works

graph-based state machines 🗣️🗣️🗣️

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but unity's animator doesn't have an "any state" per sub-state machine

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despair

severe cave Jun 25, 2025, 5:24 PM

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spare zodiac this chad swift craft https://github.com/SwiftKraft-Plugin-Devs/SwiftNPCs

I still have no clue how this works

restive turret Jun 25, 2025, 5:24 PM

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By power of magic

severe cave Jun 25, 2025, 5:25 PM

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I asked the creator and helped me a lot with this but at the end I couldnt spawn a dummy

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 5:27 PM

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severe cave I asked the creator and helped me a lot with this but at the end I couldnt spawn...

No clue how it's taken care in LabAPI, but using Exiled makes your work way more easier

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 5:28 PM

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spare zodiac this chad swift craft https://github.com/SwiftKraft-Plugin-Devs/SwiftNPCs

pathfinding in nutshell

you add to every room component "navmesh" and then you "bake/build" it and use for generating paths

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:28 PM

#

public static ReferenceHub Spawn(string nickname, RoleTypeId role, Vector3? position = null)
        {
            GameObject gameObject = Object.Instantiate(NetworkManager.singleton.playerPrefab);
            if (!gameObject.TryGetComponent(out ReferenceHub refHub))
                throw new InvalidOperationException("[Npc.Spawn] Could not find ReferenceHub");

            try
            {
                refHub.authManager.UserId = PlayerAuthenticationManager.DedicatedId;
                refHub.authManager.SyncedUserId = PlayerAuthenticationManager.DedicatedId;
                refHub.authManager.InstanceMode = ClientInstanceMode.DedicatedServer;
            }
            catch
            {
                // ignore
            }

            NetworkServer.AddPlayerForConnection(new NpcNetworkConnection(), gameObject);
            refHub.nicknameSync.MyNick = nickname;

            Timing.CallDelayed(0.1f, () =>
            {
                refHub.roleManager.ServerSetRole(role, RoleChangeReason.RemoteAdmin);
                if (position.HasValue)
                    refHub.TryOverridePosition(position.Value);
            });

            return refHub;
        }

#

public class NpcNetworkConnection : NetworkConnectionToClient
    {
        private const string DummyAddress = "127.0.0.1";

        private static int _idGenerator = ushort.MaxValue;

        /// <summary>
        /// Initializes a new instance of the <see cref="NpcNetworkConnection"/> class.
        /// </summary>
        public NpcNetworkConnection()
            : base(_idGenerator--)
        {
        }

        /// <inheritdoc />
        public override string address { get; } = DummyAddress;

        /// <inheritdoc />
        public override void Send(ArraySegment<byte> segment, int channelId = Channels.Reliable)
        {
        }

        /// <inheritdoc />
        public override void SendToTransport(ArraySegment<byte> segment, int channelId = Channels.Reliable)
        {
        }
    }

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 5:30 PM

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I am happy for Exiled 🙏

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:31 PM

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anyone know anything about coroutines and idle mode ?

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coroutines to my knowledge should work normally but dont appear to for me

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 5:34 PM

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hearty shard coroutines to my knowledge should work normally but dont appear to for me

could you provide more information? Do you have any logic in it or is it just logging into console?

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:34 PM

#

#

update status just has a logger.debug really

severe cave Jun 25, 2025, 5:34 PM

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spare zodiac No clue how it's taken care in LabAPI, but using Exiled makes your work way more...

Badly

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 5:37 PM

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hearty shard

I don't see any way a null value could come into contact causing it to stop, are you sure that you've implemented timing.startcoroutine?

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:38 PM

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hearty shard anyone know anything about coroutines and idle mode ?

Idle mode lowers down fps

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so you cannot do much

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to 10

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you need to disable it

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Timing.RunCoroutine(UpdateStatusTimed(), Segment.RealtimeUpdate, Server.Host?.GameObject);

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guh

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:39 PM

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hearty shard Timing.RunCoroutine(UpdateStatusTimed(), Segment.RealtimeUpdate, Server.Host?.Ga...

IdleMode::SetIdleMode

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:39 PM

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about to find out if that works

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 5:40 PM

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hearty shard anyone know anything about coroutines and idle mode ?

you can run them in fixedupdate

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:40 PM

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The time scale does change

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best is doing a fix update

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:40 PM

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celest thorn The time scale does change

yes but

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RealTime shouldnt

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be affected by that

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 5:40 PM

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try it ig

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:41 PM

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thats the plan

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:41 PM

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hearty shard thats the plan

or else fixed update

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thats sure to work

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 5:41 PM

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i wanna know if realtime update is realtime or not

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:41 PM

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upper vapor i wanna know if realtime update is realtime or not

I think it is

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the name implies that

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:42 PM

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YIPPIE

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:42 PM

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hearty shard YIPPIE

0 / 25????

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:42 PM

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and now i dont update if status is the same

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:42 PM

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CRAZY

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nameless is about to rewrite math

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trollfancy

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:42 PM

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what

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:42 PM

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namless

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:43 PM

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its a player count.

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...

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:43 PM

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can you make math 2.0

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:43 PM

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hearty shard its a player count.

you don't understand jokes

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;(

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 5:43 PM

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i understand you

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but anyway

celest thorn Jun 25, 2025, 5:43 PM

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yea i guess it is realtime

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 5:45 PM

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celest thorn I think it is

with unity you may never know

viral rivet Jun 25, 2025, 5:53 PM

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Is there a way to remove the * symbol from nicknames?

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 5:53 PM

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no

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for player area you can hide the nickname and use custom player info

random scaffold Jun 25, 2025, 5:58 PM

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how i can get slot where item and replace him?

upper vapor Jun 25, 2025, 5:58 PM

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no

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item order is entirely clientside

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youc an try to clear the inventory and give it in the order you want but isometimes it gets reversed

random scaffold Jun 25, 2025, 5:59 PM

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bruh

plain gazelle Jun 25, 2025, 8:30 PM

#

So LockerChamber.GetAllItems() doesnt seem to.. "work"? quite right for any locker except the 3x3 weapon lockers?

If i print out all items inside a locker like this:

for (int i = 0; i < locker.Chambers.Count; i++)
{
    response += $"- Chamber {i}";

    HashSet<Pickup> set = new(locker.Chambers[i].GetAllItems());
    response += $" (contains {set.Count} items)\n";
    foreach (var item in set)
    {
        response += $"   - {item.Type}: {item.Serial}\n";
    }
}
return true;

For lockers like the first aid boxes, weapon lockers or vertical lockers, it ""misses"" a few items...?

Here is a recording of me executing that code (it grabs the nearest locker and loops through it)

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Does anyone have any information on this? Why does this happen :(

random scaffold Jun 25, 2025, 8:45 PM

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nw moment

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 9:24 PM

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!vsr

regal lakeBOT Jun 25, 2025, 9:24 PM

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https://scpslgame.com/Verified_server_rules.pdf

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 9:56 PM

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I wonder if 4 thousand primitve cubes can be optimized somehow

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with RigidBodies as well

random scaffold Jun 25, 2025, 10:01 PM

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texttoy will be spawn for new clients?

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:06 PM

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spawn one, reconnect and check

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but it should spawn cause Sync no?

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:07 PM

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its a network object

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so yeah will syng

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Sync

true cedar Jun 25, 2025, 10:10 PM

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it will sing

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 10:12 PM

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royal mica I wonder if 4 thousand primitve cubes can be optimized somehow

spawn them only for clients not for server

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:12 PM

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true cedar it will sing

You sing

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:12 PM

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spare zodiac spawn them only for clients not for server

It is spawned for everyone

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Though that could work

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but then I cannot clean it up for clients

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 10:14 PM

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royal mica but then I cannot clean it up for clients

noup

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design builds on server side and then when everything is by your liking have it only for client side

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:18 PM

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what

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I'M not talking about MER or other pre defined builds

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This are pure dynamic simple cubes icant

grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 10:19 PM

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unique crane MapAtlasInterpretation.Interpret(Texture2D atlas, System.Random rng)

Thank you, I'll look into it

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:19 PM

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These CANNOT be pre-defined

spare zodiac Jun 25, 2025, 10:20 PM

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could you elaborate what do you mean then?

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:20 PM

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royal mica but then I cannot clean it up for clients

you could technically store info about it instead of the actual primitives

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Idk

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It might be wonky

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:20 PM

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The problem I think is all the syncing is taking up all the resources

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since all of them are synced individually

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:21 PM

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Make them static

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Only need to sync once

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:21 PM

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I was thinking maybe introducing a clustering mechanism where a few of them are groupped and them synced as one instead of individually

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:21 PM

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hearty shard Make them static

They have a RigidBody with collision on

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:21 PM

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hm

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:22 PM

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I think is beyond the possible of implementation

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:22 PM

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sorry if this is a dumb question, i have never coded a .net mod like this but how can i fix this?

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:22 PM

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"fully dynamic, on demand generated, physics enable multiple objects"

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:23 PM

#

glacial onyx sorry if this is a dumb question, i have never coded a .net mod like this but ho...

says the same for the others underlined in red as well

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:23 PM

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glacial onyx sorry if this is a dumb question, i have never coded a .net mod like this but ho...

Are you overriding the correct Plugin class?

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:23 PM

#

^

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:23 PM

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idk what that is 😭

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:23 PM

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where is Plugin from

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:23 PM

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What language do you know?

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so I can translate so you understand

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:23 PM

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hearty shard where is Plugin from

It has to be the labapi one

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:24 PM

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hearty shard It has to be the labapi one

yeah

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i got it from the wiki under labapi on github

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:24 PM

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hover over the Plugin part

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Does it say its from labapi

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:24 PM

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no

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wait a moment

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:24 PM

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where is it from agony

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:24 PM

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wtf

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:24 PM

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am i supposed to install labapi onto my project

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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inb4 Exlied

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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yes

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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Yes

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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okay

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i thought so

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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glacial onyx am i supposed to install labapi onto my project

What do you have right now?

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

#

how do i do this

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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you cannot develop a LabAPI plugin without LabAPi

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

#

hearty shard What do you have right now?

.net 4.8

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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yes but whats Plugin in

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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royal mica you cannot develop a LabAPI plugin without LabAPi

i was assuming this

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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i swear thats not a system thing

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

#

{
    public class Plugin
    {
    }
    public class hello : Plugin
    {
        public override string Name { get; } = "My First Plugin";

        public override string Description { get; } = "This plugin does magic!";

        public override string Author { get; } = "Me!"

    public override Version Version { get; } = new Version(1, 0, 0, 0);

        public override Version RequiredApiVersion { get; } = new(LabApiProperties.CompiledVersion);
    }

    
}```

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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Oh

#

Yeah...

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

#

this is my entire file

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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You cant create your own Plugin

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:25 PM

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Yeah that explains lol

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:26 PM

#

i see

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:26 PM

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i dont remembered how to explain nuget

#

Uhh

#

R u using VS?

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:26 PM

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yeah

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i js did whatever the wiki said

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:26 PM

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hearty shard R u using VS?

lmao im out

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:26 PM

#

you can google "how to use nuget package in Visual Studio"

#

you need Northwood.LabAPI

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:26 PM

#

from nuget?

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:27 PM

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hearty shard you can google "how to use nuget package in Visual Studio"

clueless

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:27 PM

#

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:27 PM

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(don't follow this)

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:27 PM

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Youll also need access to basegame dependencies

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:28 PM

#

wait

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okay yeah i see labapi in nuget

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:28 PM

#

hearty shard Youll also need access to basegame dependencies

(this requires the server files from the dedicated)

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:28 PM

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how do i do that too

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sorry for the questions the wiki doesn't really explain this 😢

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:29 PM

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Well, the wiki mostly assume you have C# knowledge, that is why it is not detailed to that level

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:29 PM

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i see

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:29 PM

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(nothing wrong with it, just explaining why)

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:29 PM

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yes of course

#

i am not that crazy of a programmer if you couldn't tell

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:30 PM

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Nah, everyone starts somewhere

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enjoy the journey, aim for greatness and just press on

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:30 PM

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great words

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:30 PM

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it is very fun if you get the hang of it

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:30 PM

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i am trying

true cedar Jun 25, 2025, 10:30 PM

#

um

#

thats an insane name and pfp

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:30 PM

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it is...

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:31 PM

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true cedar thats an insane name and pfp

Says you

true cedar Jun 25, 2025, 10:31 PM

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stfu

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:31 PM

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ok well

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ur not..

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like that

true cedar Jun 25, 2025, 10:31 PM

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theres a BIg difference

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:31 PM

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but ur pfp still insane

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:32 PM

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hearty shard (this requires the server files from the dedicated)

where is this located

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:37 PM

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you need to download the SCP Server

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:37 PM

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i have one of these

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:37 PM

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glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:37 PM

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i am assuming in the LabAPI folder?

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yes

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:37 PM

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no

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:37 PM

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oh

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:37 PM

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You need the DLL files from the Managed folder

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:38 PM

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OHHHHH

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:38 PM

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royal mica

2021

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:38 PM

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bro thank you that makes so much more sense now

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:38 PM

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hearty shard 2021

indeed

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grand flower Jun 25, 2025, 10:47 PM

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mmLul

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:48 PM

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damn

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:48 PM

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grand flower <:mmLul:405879229033742377>

darn it

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@royal mica @hearty shard i have now gotten it to work, i sincerely thank you both

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:52 PM

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Nice!

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What are the plans to create?

random scaffold Jun 25, 2025, 10:53 PM

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grand flower <:mmLul:405879229033742377>

old man

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:53 PM

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random scaffold old man

I'm somewhat curious about the average ages in this channel

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wait

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:54 PM

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royal mica *I'm somewhat curious about the average ages in this channel*

53

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or so i heard

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 PM

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royal mica What are the plans to create?

itchy mod

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 PM

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guh

indigo mossBOT Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 PM

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sqbika

Which age range are you in

1⃣ <18
2⃣ 18-24
3⃣ 25-34
4⃣ 35-44
5⃣ 44+

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 PM

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icant

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 PM

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nice poll

glacial onyx Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 PM

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at random points in time, you will get a slight blinding effect and your movement will be slowed unless u itch urself by pressing a key

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😄

hearty shard Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 PM

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😭

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:56 PM

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discord literally has a poll thing, and this thing still uses that shit

royal mica Jun 25, 2025, 10:56 PM

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glacial onyx at random points in time, you will get a slight blinding effect and your movemen...

lmao

lethal cradle Jun 25, 2025, 11:07 PM

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im deffinitly 5

slate flume Jun 25, 2025, 11:58 PM

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icy knoll collider.transform.root

Sounds good

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Okay

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Still doing a lot of damage?

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 12:00 AM

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slate flume Why does doing this cause my grenades to do crazy damage?

Bump

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Ignore the other shit that doesn't matter

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For some reason fuse-ending a grenade on collision causes it to do a ton of damage

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I don't know why

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teal junco Jun 26, 2025, 12:12 AM

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@jonny

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kyle rittenhouse spoted making plugins in labapi

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 12:16 AM

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Hey look I fixed it

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Just don't use FuseEnd ig

plain gazelle Jun 26, 2025, 12:51 AM

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Using
IFpcRole.FpcModule.CharacterModelInstance.transform
Would it be possible to parent a gameobject to a bone of the player?
Im trying to do that currently but the object just kinda.. disappears, even though the coordinates and all stay the same

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 12:52 AM

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Make sure you reset the location after parenting

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or call Transform.SetParent(parent, false)

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by default it seems like it modifies the relative position/rotation to keep the same world position/rotation

plain gazelle Jun 26, 2025, 12:56 AM

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Will try, thanks

plain gazelle Jun 26, 2025, 1:21 AM

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Cant get it to work
Printing the world and local position of my object before and after parenting and its all exactly as it is supposed to be, but my object just poofs

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will give up on it for today FoxxoExhausted

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 1:24 AM

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Parent it, set local position/rotation to vector3.zero, quaternion.identity

plain gazelle Jun 26, 2025, 1:24 AM

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didnt work

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 1:24 AM

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oh wait

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can you print out the position of CharacterModelInstance.transform

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and compare to the position of the player

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i'm guessing there's some tomfoolery

plain gazelle Jun 26, 2025, 1:25 AM

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Printed the entire hierarchy out once and it was like two hundred things

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 1:25 AM

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just print out the transform position of CharacterModelInstance to check if it matches the player's

plain gazelle Jun 26, 2025, 1:26 AM

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i will note this task down and come back to it, 3am here x.x

teal junco Jun 26, 2025, 3:01 AM

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parenting to non networked objects doesnt work the same anymore

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it wont show up

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youll have to run a coroutine constantly setting pos and rot

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 7:41 AM

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royal mica since all of them are synced individually

optimize the dumbass server update method cuz it calls transform THREE TIMES IN THE SAME METHOD

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 7:47 AM

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plain gazelle Using `IFpcRole.FpcModule.CharacterModelInstance.transform` Would it be possibl...

what icedchai said

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you could make a coroutine/component that updates the networkposition of the primitive to the toy's world position
disable the toy component on the server and boom
and please cache the transform of the primitive
this way you can set the parent to a non-networked object

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there will be some delay though

icy knoll Jun 26, 2025, 8:07 AM

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just found out that typescript has static abstract methods... beat that c#

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:07 AM

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icy knoll just found out that typescript has static abstract methods... beat that c#

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/tutorials/static-virtual-interface-members

Explore static virtual members in C# interfaces

This advanced tutorial demonstrates scenarios for operators and other static members in interfaces.

royal mica Jun 26, 2025, 8:08 AM

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why do you even need static abstract

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:08 AM

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generics

royal mica Jun 26, 2025, 8:08 AM

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it is kinda counter productive putting a static in abstract class no?

icy knoll Jun 26, 2025, 8:08 AM

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royal mica why do you even need static abstract

because typescript also has it's flaws :c

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:09 AM

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royal mica it is kinda counter productive putting a static in abstract class no?

all numbers have static abstract methods starting from .net 7(?)

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span parsables

icy knoll Jun 26, 2025, 8:10 AM

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here is my typescript code, in C# I think you can just new straight off of a type generic. for typescript that doesn't work as typescript isn't technically a language, all types and generics are stripped once you build...

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:10 AM

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generic new only works with a parameterless constructor

teal junco Jun 26, 2025, 8:11 AM

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Whats the difference between the C# version and the DotNet version

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:14 AM

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teal junco Whats the difference between the C# version and the DotNet version

C# itself mostly adds compiler features, the .NET SDK has new types (likely using new C# features, like allows ref struct)

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:16 AM

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wish I had static abstract for what i'm doing

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DogKek

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:16 AM

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royal mica it is kinda counter productive putting a static in abstract class no?

public interface ISport
{
    static abstract bool IsTeamSport { get; }
}


public class Bowling : ISport
{
    public static bool IsTeamSport => false;
}

public class Swimming : ISport
{
    public static bool IsTeamSport => false;
}

public class Football : ISport
{
    public static bool IsTeamSport => true;
}

public class Cricket : ISport
{
    public static bool IsTeamSport => true;
}

and then you could do

public static void DoSomething<T>(T sport)
{
    Console.WriteLine($"{sport.GetType().Name} is {(T.IsTeamSport ? "" : "not ") a team sport.");
}

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not the best example but it works

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:17 AM

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mfw could just be ITeamSport : ISport

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:17 AM

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yeah

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:17 AM

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/s

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:17 AM

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the first example i could find was this 😭

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:17 AM

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in my scenario I needed to have a static interface method that returns a newly constructed object of the class that implements it

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:17 AM

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you can overload operators with static abstract
UnitsNet for example, does this

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:18 AM

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grand flower in my scenario I needed to have a static interface method that returns a newly c...

that, too

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:18 AM

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but it's fine, went around it

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:18 AM

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cuz no new(param) exists with generics

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:18 AM

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grand flower but it's fine, went around it

factories are nice

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 8:20 AM

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No

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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me when you can't use T : new() with required members

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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Java behavior

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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tbf it wouldn't have worked anyway in the end

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for my stuff

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realised it a few minutes ago heh

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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restive turret Java behavior

are you against the IHttpContextFactory

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ILoggerFactory

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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since i'm reading binary data

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can't read generics

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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you can

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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IDyingFactory

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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restive turret IDyingFactory

go use that

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toomuchtrolling

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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can't cleanly read generics

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just went with an enum id and a dictionary id => handler

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easy peasy

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:22 AM

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grand flower can't cleanly read generics

eh

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fair

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:22 AM

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icy knoll here is my typescript code, in C# I think you can just `new` straight off of a t...

https://youtu.be/KKo0qJUlXGI?si=Ld7r2QeSM9k4MwjW&t=445

YouTube

Nick Chapsas

The weirdest C# 11 feature but also the best one

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Hello everybody I'm Nick and in this video I will introduce you to what is in my opinion the weirdest but also the best C# 11 feature and that is static abstract members in interfaces. The concept of having implementation...

▶ Play video

grand flower Jun 26, 2025, 8:22 AM

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also got versioning and all

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so can't use types directly

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that'd be hell to version

royal mica Jun 26, 2025, 8:24 AM

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You know why I do not really get static abstract? How do you define the body?

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:24 AM

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like with other methods

royal mica Jun 26, 2025, 8:24 AM

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static functions are inherited?!

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as in like they can be redefined in child class

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whut

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:25 AM

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royal mica as in like they can be redefined in child class

new keyword

royal mica Jun 26, 2025, 8:26 AM

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so you technically just shadow the original static function

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:26 AM

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ye

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 8:26 AM

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You can see how its done in newest .net

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Basically whats the IMinMax or something was ir

#

Y'know
int.MinValue
ulong.MinValue
That is from static abstract & interface

royal mica Jun 26, 2025, 8:28 AM

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oh the new keyword literally does nothing

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 8:28 AM

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You cant use static abstract before net7

royal mica Jun 26, 2025, 8:29 AM

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In the case of static abstract you don't even need new

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:29 AM

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yeah

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 8:29 AM

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Ye

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But for example You can do is

#

interface IDefault<T>
{
static abstract T Default { get; }
}

class IdStuff : IDefault<IdStuff>
{
int id = 0;
public IdStuff(int id) { this.id = id;}
static IdStuff Default => new(0);
}

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Or smth

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:34 AM

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yea

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 8:34 AM

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I would use it but sadly

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I have to support net standard

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:35 AM

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it's not in .NET Standard

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 8:40 AM

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Ye

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Read again

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 8:41 AM

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oh

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english moment

#

makes sense

hexed girder Jun 26, 2025, 10:56 AM

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is there a method to create custom keycards?

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 10:57 AM

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Yes

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2 actually

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Run a command

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Or use LabApi's wrapper of KeyCard

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:04 AM

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upper vapor https://youtu.be/KKo0qJUlXGI?si=Ld7r2QeSM9k4MwjW&t=445

Generic methods are awesome

#

I made one recently

#

It could be better optimized

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But I was lazy

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:05 AM

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me when

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tuple

#

use valuetuples
(string, T)

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:06 AM

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What's the difference?

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:06 AM

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Tuple<T...> is a class, so it allocates memory on the heap

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ValueTuple<T...> is a struct (and has parenthesis syntax)

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:07 AM

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Oh cool

#

So just replace Tuple with ValueTuple for free optimization

#

GoodOne

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:07 AM

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bascially, yeah

#

don't write ValueTuple out

#

the parenthesis syntax kinda actually makes sense

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:07 AM

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How do I

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Access items in the ValueTuple

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:08 AM

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you can name them

hexed girder Jun 26, 2025, 11:08 AM

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restive turret Or use LabApi's wrapper of KeyCard

thx :))

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:08 AM

#

or .Item1

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.Item2

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liike you can do

#

static (string Name, T Metric) BestPlayer<T>(...)

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:08 AM

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OH

#

I see

#

Okay

#

Gotcha

#

Gotcha

#

That actually

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:09 AM

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btw you can deconstruct them

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:09 AM

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Makes my implementation cleaner

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:09 AM

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var (name, metric) = BestPlayer<T>(...)

#

if you prefer explicit types (string name, T metric) = BestPlayer<T>(...)

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:12 AM

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Thank you @upper vapor very cool

#

I learned something new today :)

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:13 AM

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np

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i used to use keyvaluepairs for this stuff back in the day 😭

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:13 AM

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upper vapor if you prefer explicit types `(string name, T metric) = BestPlayer<T>(...)`

Usually I use explicit but here I think I'll do implicit because I use a nullascent operator or whatever it's called

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The ?

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Just so I know when something is intended to be null vs not

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:14 AM

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oh wait

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you can't deconstruct a nullable tuple

#

like this thing (string, T)?

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:14 AM

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.Value

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👍🏼

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:14 AM

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after the null check you can

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:15 AM

#

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:15 AM

#

i mean what if you return a non-nullable tuple

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:15 AM

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Wdym

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:15 AM

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like it can't be null

#

only default

#

and then you'd check if the nick is null

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:15 AM

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I only return null when like

#

The dictionary is empty

#

Just cases where I can't ascertain the best one

#

Otherwise I return the tuple

#

That's the only reason I do it like that

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:16 AM

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slate flume I only return null when like

you can replace that with default and then the tuple's contents will be null, not the tuple itself

#

so you can directly deconstruct it

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:16 AM

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Oh shit

#

So I can just

#

Return the defaunt ValueTuple

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:17 AM

#

ye

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:17 AM

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And then check for that

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That's baller

#

One sec

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:17 AM

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slate flume And then check for that

not really the way i thought

#

like
return default
and var (bestSomethingNick, somethingCount) = BestPlayer<>()
then if (bestSomethingNick != null)

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:18 AM

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you can even just use _ to not do anything with it

#

Like

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:19 AM

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Very cool

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:19 AM

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var (onlyNickProcess, _) =...

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:19 AM

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No longer need to make the types nullable

#

I just

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Check default!

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:20 AM

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slate flume Very cool

agian, now you can deconstruct it

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:20 AM

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Ye

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:20 AM

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not sure which would be less characters lmao

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:20 AM

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Lmao yeah

#

I'm fine with this

#

It's pretty readable I'd say

#

Moreso than before definitely

#

I used to do shit like this:

#

Now I can do it better SunglassesThumbsUp

#

I don't need the comment to explain it anymore!

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:21 AM

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restive turret var (onlyNickProcess, _) =...

#

discards

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:22 AM

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slate flume I used to do shit like this:

KeyValuePair<string, KeyValuePair<float, float>> toomuchtrolling

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:23 AM

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upper vapor KeyValuePair<string, KeyValuePair<float, float>> <:toomuchtrolling:9743458808177...

Lmao

#

Peak

#

Grossssss I can fix it now!

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:24 AM

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upper vapor

Discard deez

#

Why not just make a class

#

Or struct

#

That contains these

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:26 AM

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restive turret That contains these

that's very excessive

#

you can also do using Whatever = (RoleTypeId, float, float, float);

#

tuple aliases since C# 10

#

if you need a separate type, create a (readonly) record struct

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:28 AM

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Is record even available

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In net48

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:28 AM

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Beautiful

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:28 AM

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slate flume Beautiful

Like u

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:28 AM

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I just changed every tuple in my plugin to ValueTuple

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:28 AM

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restive turret Like u

Aww thank you :)

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:28 AM

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slate flume I just changed every tuple in my plugin to ValueTuple

Fear

#

Or

#

SteamHappy

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:28 AM

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just add sealed class IsExternalInit; in the namespace System.Runtime.CompilerServices

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:29 AM

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My code reads so much better now

#

No more x.Item1 and y.Item2

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:29 AM

#

R u sur

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:29 AM

#

I mean

#

It's not like I can even read half the shit I write anyways

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:29 AM

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Real

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:30 AM

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I should add comments

#

I mean

#

I understand it

#

But it

#

Kind of sucks

#

I wrote most of my bodyguard code high lmao

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:31 AM

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Hmm what are you doing

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:31 AM

#

I'll show you the full thing

#

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:32 AM

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slate flume I wrote most of my bodyguard code high lmao

It's a little messed up

#

But it works

#

And that's what counts?

#

I think?

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:32 AM

#

.ToList().OrderBy

#

don't allocate a list for that

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:33 AM

#

Should do break if not alive

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:33 AM

#

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:33 AM

#

restive turret Should do break if not alive

that's filtered out by Where

#

or which one

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:33 AM

#

slate flume

You can do is break

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:33 AM

#

But I

#

May spawn the dummy back in

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:33 AM

#

Oh u

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:33 AM

#

So I want the routine to continue

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:33 AM

#

Ah k

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:34 AM

#

also your loop condition will never be false

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:34 AM

#

upper vapor also your loop condition will never be false

It

#

Sometimes is

#

GoodOne

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:34 AM

#

no

#

it won't change

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:34 AM

#

.

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:34 AM

#

yeah but

#

whatever

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:34 AM

#

I sometimes

#

Destroy the dummy and forget to delete the coroutine

#

And then it's null

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:35 AM

#

if you destroy the dummy while the coroutine is running, the player will not be null

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:35 AM

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But when I added logging before and after doing the referenceequals my code fixed it

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:35 AM

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you should check if the player's referencehub is not null

#

you're storing a reference to the dummy wrapper
that reference cannot change, only the objects in it
if you destroy the dummy, that destroys the gameobject, but the player wrapper doesn't suddenly disappear from memory, because you still reference it

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:36 AM

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See the weird thing is that my code worked

#

The only reason I ever do ReferenceEquals bullshit is because it fixed something

#

I avoid it otherwise

#

So at some point the player does evaluate to null according to that

#

Idk how or why

#

I just know it does

#

And I fixed my headache by doing that

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:37 AM

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you can't tell me that the loop quits if the dummy gets destroyed

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:38 AM

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Iirc it does haha

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:38 AM

#

oh right

#

cuz isalive throws if the dummy is destroyed

#

Facepalm

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:38 AM

#

Lmao so my code is working because of an error

#

That's funny

#

I feel like we've talked about this before

#

#plugins-dev-chat message

#

I literally cannot tell you why checking the player for null works

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:39 AM

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yeah that's for events when the player can be null at a specific point in time

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:39 AM

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But it does

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:39 AM

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but not across longer periods

#

you still have a reference to the wrapper so ReferenceEquals will never be false if the loop started

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the only reason why the coroutine stops is

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an exception

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:40 AM

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I will

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Have to check that with LocalAdminLogs

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Let me test

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Interesting

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So

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It appears

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The coroutine keeps going

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So I was wrong GoodOne

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It happens a lot

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Lmao

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No exception though

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Which is weird

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Their referencehub

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Is not set to null?

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:48 AM

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it should become null

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:48 AM

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For some reason

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It doesn't

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So I commented out the bit that kills the coroutine

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I forgot I added that

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So this is purely an experiment

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The dummies are gone but my console is still getting spammed

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This is peculiar

hearty shard Jun 26, 2025, 11:50 AM

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btw

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if (dummy.ReferenceHub)

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works

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its a unity life check

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or smth

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:51 AM

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Oh interesting

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It's weird that

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This

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But not

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:51 AM

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nullable references moment

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cuz the IDE doesn't see the null check

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:51 AM

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Oh

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You right

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Wait

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But usually it tells me to switch to unity lifetime checks

hearty shard Jun 26, 2025, 11:52 AM

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This warning is shown if a type deriving from UnityEngine.Object uses either the null coalescing (??) or null propagation or conditional (?.) operators. These operators do not use the custom equality operators declared on UnityEngine.Object, and so bypass a check to see if the underlying native Unity engine object has been destroyed. An explicit null or boolean comparison, or a call to System.Object.ReferenceEquals() is preferred in order to clarify intent.

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:52 AM

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hearty shard Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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https://github.com/JetBrains/resharper-unity/wiki/Possible-unintended-bypass-of-lifetime-check-of-underlying-Unity-engine-object

GitHub

Possible unintended bypass of lifetime check of underlying Unity en...

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restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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upper vapor cuz the IDE doesn't see the null check

Rider moment

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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why are you using lastordefault ClassD_Hollow

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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restive turret Rider moment

VS would do that too

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if you were using nullable

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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upper vapor why are you using lastordefault <:ClassD_Hollow:853574150203506698>

Because the Room.List sometimes contains stale references

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And sometimes it doesn't have the room when the server is starting

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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wtf

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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I using nullables and doesn't scream for that

hearty shard Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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slate flume Because the Room.List sometimes contains stale references

FirstOrDefault(r => !r.IsDestroyed && r.Something)

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:53 AM

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yes

hearty shard Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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or smth

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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hearty shard FirstOrDefault(r => !r.IsDestroyed && r.Something)

I could just

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LastOrDefault

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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or how about you wait until waitingforplayers

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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I do

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Lmao

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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Then wait after a few sec

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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Well

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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slate flume And sometimes it doesn't have the room when the server is starting

i don't even know how does that happen

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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I wait for round start

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Which happens after waiting for players

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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do they not remove the room when it's destroyed??????

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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Apparently not lol

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:55 AM

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upper vapor i don't even know how does that happen

Me neither

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:55 AM

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😭😭

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:55 AM

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Skull

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:55 AM

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I thought the room would always be loaded by the time the roundstarted event is called

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But apparently not lmao

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So I wait

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One frame at a time

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Most of my code is jank because something on Northwood's end is weird

hearty shard Jun 26, 2025, 11:55 AM

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slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:56 AM

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I wish I could say that Room.List doesn't include stale references but in my experience it sometimes does

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When the round starts, sometimes trying to find the room doesn't work, or it grabs a bad reference

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So the .Base is null

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So I wait until I find one that isn't bad

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🤷🏼

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:57 AM

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I aquire you to make a payday gamemode in sl

upper vapor Jun 26, 2025, 11:57 AM

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hearty shard

Hmm

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:58 AM

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Wair that requires AI too

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😭

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:58 AM

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restive turret Wair that requires AI too

I mean

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I could try making some bots

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Lmao

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:58 AM

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I trying that too

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:58 AM

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I already did dummy bodyguards in the most jank fashion

restive turret Jun 26, 2025, 11:58 AM

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W/o navmesh

slate flume Jun 26, 2025, 11:59 AM

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Yeah w/o navmesh is tough