plugins-dev-chat

[slate flume]

Real talk

Lemme try it

[upper vapor]

OHHHHHHH

you know why?

the hitreg disables hitboxes temporarily

for the shooter

[slate flume]

Are you

So for real rn

[upper vapor]

yes

[slate flume]

What the fucking shit bro

[upper vapor]

so the player doesn't shoot themselves

raycast magic

[slate flume]

So they just

Make the player invincible?

That's so wild

[upper vapor]

for the duration of the shot being processed, kind of

it doesn't disable damage, it's just that the hitboxes won't be hit by physics casts

[slate flume]

What if I just

Nvm

I was gonna say kill the attacker

But that's dumb

[upper vapor]

bru

[slate flume]

I hate this

[royal mica]

bruh

[slate flume]

That's insane to me

[upper vapor]

do you know a better way to ignore one exact collider when raycasting?

[slate flume]

Offset the raycast to start outside of the collider?

[upper vapor]

i guess

with intersectray

[slate flume]

Wait

What the fuck

I offset the explosion by an entire second

Still no work

I am going to freak out

[upper vapor]

what

[royal mica]

layers

[upper vapor]

we need to ignore like 4 colliders for the duration of the shot

at an arbitrary time

[royal mica]

you have 255 layers, just assign 1 layer to each palyer

You never need to collide with yourself

[upper vapor]

there are only 32 layers

[royal mica]

oh

[upper vapor]

unity

[slate flume]

Oh

It's because when I offset the explosion

It does no damage

Gotcha

Lemme

[upper vapor]

what

[upper vapor]

256-bit integer

[slate flume]

What if I hit the dummy with my car

I'm too exhausted for this shit

[upper vapor]

what did you change

[slate flume]

Take #46

[slate flume]

I removed

The FF code

Probably broke it all

[upper vapor]

did you do calldelayed

[slate flume]

THERE WE GO

Fucking

Finally

[upper vapor]

lol

[slate flume]

I added the FF code back

It works now

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

This is so ass

I can clean it a bit

But it

work

finally

😭

[upper vapor]

epic

[slate flume]

I always encounter the weirdest problems ong

Well thank you @upper vapor 😁

Much appreciated

[upper vapor]

np

this was an interesting one

[slate flume]

It's nice having a place to go to figure shit out

🙏🏼

[slate flume]

I try not to ask easy stuff here haha

I've added like 3 issues to the LabAPI GitHub because of the shit I've found

It's not a lot but it is for me because I started doing this shit like a month ago

[upper vapor]

the grind never stops

[untold raft]

How to check player faction

[upper vapor]

just accept the intellisense suggestion

[unique crane]

You have the answer right there

[untold raft]

Yep but

[restive turret]

Least blind ServerHost

()

Guuh

[untold raft]

oh right

[restive turret]

GetFaction()

[untold raft]

()

[restive turret]

Or

ev.Attacker.Faction

[upper vapor]

btw this might not work for things like grenades

the attacker might be dead by the time the damage is dealt

[untold raft]

I checking if Attacker == null and return

[untold raft]

I can't do that

Player not contain Faction

[upper vapor]

that's good but it won't help if the attacker's role has changed

it'll just check whether the damage was dealt by someone else

[untold raft]

But PlayerHurtingEventArgs not have ev.amount

[upper vapor]

not sure how that's relevant

get the damage handler, check if it's an AttackerDamageHandler
that contains a footprint to the attacker at the correct point in time

for grenades, that's the thrower

[restive turret]

R u sur

[upper vapor]

yes i'm 🍺

[untold raft]

What with scp 018?

[restive turret]

That's a ball

[upper vapor]

still a projectile though

[restive turret]

Thrower obviously

[slate flume]

I just avoid doing shit with going into PlayerHurting or PlayerHurt for grenades

Just

Modify the damage curve

[restive turret]

Just

[slate flume]

It saves you the headache

[restive turret]

Just don't

[restive turret]

That's nice

However

[upper vapor]

have you tried a direct cast

[slate flume]

Now you can make half-damage grenades just by doing

[slate flume]

Direct cast requires more parantheses

It looks worse

[restive turret]

Why don't you have that and make that as a settings

Trul

[slate flume]

Wdym

[upper vapor]

2 more characters though for "safe cast"

[slate flume]

Idk I just think it looks better

[untold raft]

I know, Just if !ev.Player.IsAlive return

[upper vapor]

fair

[slate flume]

I have a saved damage curve in my class that starts as null, and I populate it if I need to use it

[upper vapor]

oh

[slate flume]

Once it's populated, I don't run the code again

[restive turret]

ev.Settings.ApplyMyGrenadeSettings(SettingType.Balls)

Or whatever

[slate flume]

Oh

I use it in one spot for a grenade launcher

[restive turret]

I steal it and gonna do something good with it

Sometimes

You work while I sleep

[slate flume]

Lmao real

I lurk on these forums all the time to find solutions and ideas

Whenever I have something I reuse in a bunch of classes I throw it into my Resources class

[restive turret]

Can you find deez nuts

[slate flume]

It's like 500 lines

[restive turret]

Sorry

U r new here

[slate flume]

All good lol

[restive turret]

Nvm lvl 10

[upper vapor]

😭

[slate flume]

It's filled with dumb shit

[restive turret]

Should be triple baybe

Like 1500

Or 8000

[upper vapor]

me when double allocations

[slate flume]

Oh wait

You right

I was lazy

😭

Lemme fix

[upper vapor]

should've used spans smh

[slate flume]

No idea how to use spans

[upper vapor]

you used the uh

introduce variable

?

[slate flume]

[upper vapor]

guy

[slate flume]

WOAH

Cool

[restive turret]

Send as ref

[slate flume]

But what if I want to view the truncated name and the original

Tbh I don't believe I do any processing anywhere after I run TruncateName besides throwing it in the middle of a leaderboard or spectator list or some shit

So I don't wanna do ref for that

[upper vapor]

imagine

[restive turret]

Image

[upper vapor]

if there was a source generator that created an interceptor for these uh uhhhhh

string interpolations

and used stackalloc

to createa a buffer for the whole string, then it tostring()'ed it

[restive turret]

There is a nuget package that does some reverse stuff

Idk the nsme tho

[upper vapor]

that's

different

[restive turret]

Ye

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/AntonBergaker/InterpolatedParser

using InterpolatedParsing;

List<int> numbers = null!;

InterpolatedParser.Parse(
    "Winning numbers are: 5,10,15,25",
    $"Winning numbers are: {numbers:,}");

List<string> beans = null!;
InterpolatedParser.Parse(
    "Bean list: black, coffee, green",
    $"Bean list: {beans:', '}"); // Add single quotes to support whitespace

this is so good

[restive turret]

Ye

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/scpsl-scp-secret-lab-scp-secret-laboratory-scp-interesting-gif-26890808

[upper vapor]

there should be a comma after yourself

[restive turret]

Not my pic

Me when i see someone throw multiple 018 at me

[upper vapor]

*ball

[restive turret]

Anyway, can we have player.Throw(Item,bool)

[restive turret]

Oh ye sorry

[covert flame]

^

[restive turret]

I still dont get your explanation sorry

[restive turret]

Oh

Check how its done inside the server

[covert flame]

how what's done?

[restive turret]

The hiding the tag

Probably inside ServerRoles

[covert flame]

I'm sorry, but I'm really tired right now and have got no clue what you're talking about O.o

[restive turret]

Server code contains the functions that makes your tag hidden, search it and try understand why it removes from it.
I highly think because the tag you make is not inside the ServerGroups List and can't see the hidden version of it

[covert flame]

Where is the ServerGroups List?

[restive turret]

I dont know not on pc reverse where you set the name of your group / tag

In ServerRoles

[covert flame]

Like where you define the roles, in the remoteadmin config file?

[restive turret]

Ahhh nvm

Is the bronzerole / bronzegroup is in your RA config?

[covert flame]

Yes, both of those roles are in the remoteadmin config file

[untold raft]

Exist any plugin with SS keybind? I need it for example

[unique crane]

https://github.com/HubertMoszka/Server-Specific-Settings-System/tree/main/Examples

[hearty shard]

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1339704289291141130

[icy knoll]

if ur fine with telling people to install another plugin for urs to work https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1339704289291141130 is very good, i dont like telling people to install that stuff tho lol

[restive turret]

Because it's not very good or very maintained

[icy knoll]

[hearty shard]

ur bad

and unmaintained

[icy knoll]

secretapi v2 when?

[restive turret]

first FreakyAPI

Where you control AI

[hearty shard]

i didnt really wanna release 2.0.0 just for breaking changes on settings

💔

[restive turret]

You already doing breaking changes so

Not really much tbh

Also when fix for fakeSync

@hearty shard

[hearty shard]

what

is it broken ?

[restive turret]

Ye

Yours probably

[hearty shard]

what

wdym "probably"

[restive turret]

AdminToys

[hearty shard]

thats

not my code

i only have fake rpc

[restive turret]

Ah

[hearty shard]

admintoy position is a sync var

not rpc

[restive turret]

So no FakeSync

Ah ye you dont have that

nvm then

Sorry

[frank flicker]

Just got home to try some things and this worked when building from the terminal
I've still got a lot of fiddling and convincing to do, but at least I know the end goal is achievable now. Thanks for the help everyone :>

only like 2 more (unrelated) things to figure out and I'm done with windows for good

[restive turret]

Can't help with the Rider specific stuff since I aint using it

Btw funfact

You can make a .net8/9 csproj and edit the .csproj file to be net48

[frank flicker]

I saw that online somewhere, will probs try that first

[royal mica]

Yup this works

[royal mica]

You can also build from Rider

[untold raft]

Scp Roles doesn't have wrappers?

[hearty shard]

nope

no role does

[frank flicker]

not yet lol

still working on that

[icy knoll]

use RoleBase and just use base game roles

[untold raft]

How can i check scp079 tier?

Or Active camera

[hearty shard]

SubroutineManager

[hearty shard]

do i add role wrappers to secretapi

[restive turret]

Might be the best of what I typed before , the ReferencePaths.props.user

[hearty shard]

@untold raft

[icy knoll]

Scp079GameRole.SubroutineModule.TryGetSubroutine(out Scp079TierManager tierManager)

tierManager.AccessTierLevel

as easy as that

[restive turret]

Uhhuh

[icy knoll]

for xp, use the thing eve sent above

[untold raft]

Super easy

[hearty shard]

also

scp079Role._curCamSync._lastCam

Scp079Role has it by itself

[icy knoll]

Scp079GameRole::CurrentCamera for camera :3

[hearty shard]

oh

[restive turret]

Silly

[hearty shard]

lmao

[icy knoll]

silly eve giving hard methods for no reason

[hearty shard]

oh

[untold raft]

How to check if camera is on surface

[hearty shard]

shush

[restive turret]

Get the room where is it

Idk

[untold raft]

just FacilityZone.Surface

[restive turret]

Iidk i dont see ingame code rn

[hearty shard]

Room.GetRoomAtPosition(scp079Role.CurrentCamera.Position)?.Zone == FacilityZone.Surface

im checking if current cam has it

[untold raft]

damm thank you

[royal mica]

Is your csproj properly set up?

Also the Env vars in Rider

[frank flicker]

oh yep, ok I tried that but I placed it in the wrong folder. Moved it to the right one and it works now

[royal mica]

😄

[frank flicker]

it working now

[frank flicker]

(meant to reply to this message, in reference to what I tried)

[restive turret]

Nice

GG!

Now you can see the csproj and understand whats inside it

[upper vapor]

that's wild

[hearty shard]

[icy knoll]

looking into CustomDataStore stuff, because StoreInstances is private, how am I supposed to be able to get the players with the stores? I dont want to add a store to every player if I don't have to...

[royal mica]

If you get a Playdr frpm the store it should create them

[upper vapor]

publicize labapi

[icy knoll]

GetDataStore creates an instance if the player doesn't have it

and I dont want to do that, I just want to get 😭

[royal mica]

Huh?

[upper vapor]

surely the camera stores the room it's in...

[icy knoll]

doesn't

atleast not at first glance

no room identifier

[royal mica]

Why ontl get, not create?

[royal mica]

Imo, use custom data store implentation

[icy knoll]

because I am doing a foreach on Player.ReadyList, I don't want to use memory if I don't need to.

[worthy rune]

how big is the custom data store?

[icy knoll]

controls hints via ruei

and the classes in there contains lists and stuff

it's like small amounts of memory id say, but still

micro-optimisations

lol

[worthy rune]

yeah i would say so, memory is usually cheap these days

on VPS's that is

[icy knoll]

yeah

but data stores are very useful

thanks to the person who decided to make them btw

[worthy rune]

i think theres a PR for data store Get, so you will have to wait until then

[icy knoll]

okie

[worthy rune]

x3rt

[royal mica]

You could also fet h via reflection

[upper vapor]

when is jesus pushing the current versoin to github

[icy knoll]

also i just found out that CustomDataStore::Owner exists... ive been making my own Player field 😭

[upper vapor]

bru

[icy knoll]

what

smh

also, this plugin very close to releasing

so i hope my code is good...

[restive turret]

Hope

[icy knoll]

yes

someone will rip into me if not ig

[restive turret]

He also implemented some of my request

[icy knoll]

ive been using my members as test dummies and fixed loads of issues i would have never spotted

[upper vapor]

i just hate seeing this

stupid path

not your fault but like

ugh

[icy knoll]

i get you

yeah

[upper vapor]

lumi...

[icy knoll]

what

oh no

[upper vapor]

do you or do you not reformat your files

eve would kill you

[icy knoll]

i usually let rider do it for me

like whenever i finish a line of code or smth

usually reformats for me

[upper vapor]

pro tip

[upper vapor]

um
it doesn't always do that 😭

[icy knoll]

i dont commit with that 😭

is there a way to reformat a whole code base in 1? 😭

[upper vapor]

right click sln

reformat code

[icy knoll]

done

[hearty shard]

wrapper, not Scp079Camera

hm

idk

[upper vapor]

Base.Room

[hearty shard]

sh

i saw

yeah

[upper vapor]

lol

[icy knoll]

pushed the code cleanup

[hearty shard]

i searched for room it didnt show

[icy knoll]

lol

[hearty shard]

idk

[icy knoll]

hopefully that looks better now...

[upper vapor]

[icy knoll]

ty ax again :3

[hearty shard]

Oh

ax

i know why

[restive turret]

Skill issue

[hearty shard]

its interactable base

not just camera

makes sense

[hearty shard]

who r u

[upper vapor]

np

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

ur boss

[hearty shard]

not true

[restive turret]

Yet

[hearty shard]

ur fired

[restive turret]

Nuh uh

[icy knoll]

im now honestly tryna figure out ways to optimise my code as idk if i did anything in a very unneeded way or not 😭

[upper vapor]

chatcommand

oh

OHHHHH

nvm

smart

okay

[hearty shard]

me when string and not string?

[upper vapor]

wha

[hearty shard]

its nullable

but the type doesnt indicate it as

[icy knoll]

because i dont have nullable on

[hearty shard]

[upper vapor]

i am NOT migrating my older projects to nullable

that would lead to breaking changes

[icy knoll]

im not using nullable ever, i hate it sm 😭

[upper vapor]

for new codebases i use nullable though

[upper vapor]

skul-

[hearty shard]

💀

[icy knoll]

what 😭

[hearty shard]

why

if something can be null why not indicate it as so

[upper vapor]

Component:45
you could use TryDequeue

[icy knoll]

i dont have that method... unless it comes with dictionary?

[upper vapor]

Queue::TryDequeue

should be an extension somewhere

[icy knoll]

bruh i didnt know the class Queue existed

I was using dictionary

[hearty shard]

😭

[hearty shard]

erm

99% its not an extension

and is just part of the class

idk though

[icy knoll]

how do queues work 😭

[hearty shard]

so

its like

stack

[upper vapor]

what if i said 1% is true

[hearty shard]

but not really

you add to a queue

[upper vapor]

i don't think she understood anything from that lol

[hearty shard]

and then you dequeue

and you get that value

[upper vapor]

think of tesko

enqueue
dequeue

first item in, first item out

[hearty shard]

think of it as a super market queue

[upper vapor]

first to go in line gets out first

[hearty shard]

you enter queue

you get helped

you leave queue

Troll

[icy knoll]

yeah but i need a queue for the player and the list of items they have

i need to save their list of items

do I just put queue on their list of items?

because it's technically not a queue in a supermarket

as everyone can have a msg at the same time

[upper vapor]

yeah

[icy knoll]

just not all their msgs at the same time

so idk

[upper vapor]

buteach player has a queue

[icy knoll]

like this ig?

[upper vapor]

ye

[icy knoll]

so, do I continue to use FirstOrDefault to get the next item in the queue?

[hearty shard]

.Dequeue

[upper vapor]

btw you should probably update this so there's an OnDestroy method that does the cleanup
and in Start you delay the call to _toy.Destroy
the OnDestroy method shouldn't destroy the toy itself

[upper vapor]

TryDequeue

[icy knoll]

.Dequeue() removes it

[hearty shard]

.Peek() ?

[upper vapor]

isn't that what you want though?

[icy knoll]

so instead of the CallDelayed calling my Destroy method, it destroys the toy and uses OnDestroy instead? ok

[upper vapor]

yes

[icy knoll]

I wouldn't know whether a message is currently playing or not then

[upper vapor]

this also cleans up toys that are destroyed on scene unload

[upper vapor]

um

but you do calldelayed

[icy knoll]

yes

but like

when i add an item to a queue

but call delayed isn't going on

how do I like know whether a msg is going or not?

😭

[upper vapor]

uh

[icy knoll]

ig I could use the components list?

[upper vapor]

brainfart moment

[icy knoll]

and see whether one is active

[upper vapor]

ummmm

[upper vapor]

how about

Dictionary<Player, (Component, Queue<string>)> Components

[icy knoll]

we're adding a tuple now?

[upper vapor]

for faster access

i can't believe there's no tryremove for dictionaries

honestly with all this yapping i could just PR the changes lol

[icy knoll]

please 😭

because im probably gunna fuck this up

[upper vapor]

oh we even got credit @restive turret

[icy knoll]

ofc

i legit couldnt have done it without you 2

[hearty shard]

me when

.Remove

is a bool

[upper vapor]

are you sör

yeah but

[hearty shard]

Remove is the try

[upper vapor]

then you don't geth the removed value

[hearty shard]

well

thats a you issue

you dont need it

[restive turret]

What

[upper vapor]

i do need it

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

i said no

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-24498059

[restive turret]

I'm blind

[upper vapor]

hi blind

check the readme

[upper vapor]

feel free to release it, ma lazy ahh is not gonna make that PR right now

[icy knoll]

haha

fair enough

ima wait a bit

see if my members find any bugs

probably not, patched a billion by now

but rather be safe than sorry

[restive turret]

Ah

[random scaffold]

typical nw moment

[unique crane]

That is intended as far as I know

[hearty shard]

@unique crane any possibility of filmmaker role receiving more than 20 seconds record time

[unique crane]

I have never ever used that role in my life xd

[hearty shard]

well

you should

now

[upper vapor]

the keyframe editing is

painful

also no splines

which is unacceptable

[subtle ravine]

I tried to use it
(idk how)

someone teach me

[limber silo]

agree

unplayable game

[subtle ravine]

CoC

[upper vapor]

hold right click to move
add keyframe
space to play

[upper vapor]

i have this but it's outdated

the code is

not pretty

[subtle ravine]

uh

[icy knoll]

finally released the plugin

ugh

yippie tho!

[restive turret]

Yippe

[teal junco]

Filmmaker role is holy dogshit

i hope it gets a buff someday

because its functions are really unique

its very underutilized

once I had an argument with a guy because i asked him to use filmmaker role for his video, and he said it was too much work and started ignoring me and being dismissive

[hearty shard]

cuz its annoying to work with

[teal junco]

i mean, yeah, but its not unusable and it looks way better

and basic planning mitigates most of its downsides (a filmmaker cannot improvise movements, cannot hear voice chat)

[upper vapor]

Except when you can clearly see where a keyframe is because the change in direction is so obvious

[teal junco]

idk 🤷 its better than using FPS controller where i can also tell exactly when the cameraman changed directions, and i can see the exact sensitivity he has on, and its just overall very obvious im looking at noclip footage

[upper vapor]

Lmao

And when they don't use smooth input...

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creator-reaction-video-gif-21747537

[plain gazelle]

So Locker.Loot is a LockerLoot array, but as far as i see, it doesnt hold any information or references to the held/generated pickups?

[hearty shard]

It creates it when you open it

And thats it

It doesnt rly need to hold reference to it

[plain gazelle]

[hearty shard]

Well

I said doesnt need to

[hearty shard]

what does this actually return thougj

[plain gazelle]

Chamber.Base also has a List of "ToBeSpawned" ItemPickupBases

[hearty shard]

whats the code behind it

[hearty shard]

Oh that

Oh yeah

[hearty shard]

okay

i lied when i said doesnt need to lol

[plain gazelle]

Its fine

[hearty shard]

it creates the the pickup server side and stores it ig

i thought it stored the ItemType

[plain gazelle]

Hm, does Base.Content already hold the unspawned Items too?

[hearty shard]

try

[grand flower]

also isn't this a memory leak

[plain gazelle]

[grand flower]

[unique crane]

how is that a memory leak

[grand flower]

rent from the pool

no return

or i'm guessing you manually return it later (but that's dirty af never do it)

[unique crane]

Well thats your issue if you dont return it later

And in that case

[grand flower]

That's like, bad architecture though

[unique crane]

GC clears it

[upper vapor]

me when
<remarks>returns a pooled list</remarks>

[grand flower]

does it

[unique crane]

Literally

[hearty shard]

if an object isnt used

[upper vapor]

i hate it

[hearty shard]

it returns to GC

And is deleted from memory

[grand flower]

so

what's the point

of the hash set pool

if it's going to be GC'd regardless

[upper vapor]

pooled objects are only used to reduce initial allocation

[unique crane]

No it wont be returned if you dont do it

[hearty shard]

Its not

[upper vapor]

clearing a set/list is faster than creating a new one

[hearty shard]

If you return to pool

Its still stored

In your list

Its not unused

[grand flower]

yeah I know that, just wondering why use a pooled hash set in this scenario then

[hearty shard]

so its not cleared by GC

[grand flower]

you're gonna have to re-allocate down the line if you just let it be GC'd

[hearty shard]

Cuz ur meant to return to pool after use

[unique crane]

Why is he doing Base.Content.ToArray()

[unique crane]

Why

[grand flower]

So either, you return it, or you forget to and it gets GC'd

[plain gazelle]

I just want this in the end ._.

[grand flower]

in both scenarios it's bad design

[unique crane]

Well its your skill issue if you dont return it

[plain gazelle]

And im trying to figure out how to separate loose pickups from pickups in lockers

[upper vapor]

cuz
concurrent modification

but at that point you can use RemoveAll

[unique crane]

h

Oh

[plain gazelle]

So my plan was cloning Pickup.List and going through them all or sth and check if they exist in a Locker? idfk im just trying things ._.

[upper vapor]

or RemoveWhere on a set

[grand flower]

... it's still bad API design to be doing something like this

[unique crane]

IIII dont think so

[hearty shard]

tbf

[upper vapor]

class PooledHashSet<T> : HashSet<T>, IDisposable

[unique crane]

but if you want you can make issue on labapi github

[hearty shard]

.toArray kinda stinks

[grand flower]

Is that LabAPI code

[unique crane]

Cause like

[hearty shard]

you could IEnumerable and yield return

[plain gazelle]

Thats not even my code :x

[unique crane]

LabAPI does it aswell

in some cases

Like GetBannedPlayers()

[grand flower]

There's like

no docs right now

[hearty shard]

There is

[grand flower]

how are we supposed to know we have to return it

[hearty shard]

Use the nuget

nuget package includes docs

[grand flower]

Right, have to use the nuget, otherwise there's no docs

[hearty shard]

same with exiled

and like

yeah

[upper vapor]

you have to use nuget (it's outdated)

[grand flower]

see at the very least this would be a little easier to know with the IDE letting me know it's disposable, but still dirty

[hearty shard]

oh yeah

[upper vapor]

JESUS

wakey wakey

[grand flower]

Any kind of API that requires me to return something without explicitly needing me to, or telling me to, is like, bad design

[plain gazelle]

That is decompiled code from SL :c
From LabApi.Features.Wrappers.LockerChamber

[grand flower]

I'd rather it crash than silently fail

[upper vapor]

oh this one

[grand flower]

or well

silently misuse it

[upper vapor]

bruhhhh

[unique crane]

nvm

[plain gazelle]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make this efficient?
Sorting Pickup.List into one List of pickups contained/part of Lockers, and one List of pickups of the rest ("loose" items) (Or are loose items part of invisible lockers...? oh dear i fear they might be)

[upper vapor]

what do you mean by loose items

i guess on waiting for players you can cache items in lockers

[unique crane]

Like this one does tell you that

[upper vapor]

not many people will see "pooled" or understand it tho...

[unique crane]

Well

[plain gazelle]

<- doesnt understand what a pooled list of players means

[unique crane]

in worst case its getting gced

[plain gazelle]

we love c# gc yippeee
i would never survive c++

[unique crane]

We can look into how to tell devs what that is

in some docs

[upper vapor]

void GetCurrentSpectators(List<Player> results)

[plain gazelle]

TF2-dev-type conversation here fr

[grand flower]

IMO anything returned from a method shouldn't be pooled

do what Axwabo does with out results

let the caller handle pooling

[plain gazelle]

Like the items in HCZ in the shelves, or on the boxes of the corner tiles, or the 096 keycard, or the 106 keycard/coin

Stuff not in an enclosed container

[upper vapor]

ohhhhh

[plain gazelle]

.w.

[upper vapor]

make them a hashset

[plain gazelle]

<- doesnt know what a hashset is

.w .

[upper vapor]

a list with unique items basically

can't have the same thing twice

[unique crane]

Can you post issue on github about it

[plain gazelle]

uhhhh Dictionary my beloved?

alr i get you tho

[upper vapor]

you can put the uh
locker pickups in one set, then "loose" pickups would be all pickups except the ones in lockers
sets have ExceptWith

[plain gazelle]

Ye

I get confused by your last 5 words

[true cedar]

its basically a dictionary but with no values

[plain gazelle]

Neat ^^

Does this make sense >.>

[true cedar]

no

wait yes

[upper vapor]

lmao

[upper vapor]

avg programming at 3am

[true cedar]

i thought UnionWith returned a new hashset for a sec

[upper vapor]

you could add all pickups to loose at the start and exceptwith in the locker loop

that would eliminate the last foreach

[plain gazelle]

Ah so the other way around

?

ItemsInLockers.ExceptWith(ItemsLoose);

[upper vapor]

a.ExceptWith(b) removes b from a

[plain gazelle]

x.x

Thank you

[hearty shard]

Guys.....

[true cedar]

hi "eve"

[hearty shard]

b word

[plain gazelle]

beautiful?

^^

[hearty shard]

uhhh

nah pai isn that

[plain gazelle]

WOA

rude

[upper vapor]

but beans

[unique crane]

Meanwhile Eve sending me gif that she didnt even read the text on

[hearty shard]

I DID READ IT

I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR THE FOREHEAD THOUGH

YK THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD

[unique crane]

Hmm

still funny as hell when you realized

[hearty shard]

💔

[unique crane]

[hearty shard]

I HATE YOU

[unique crane]

Hate me?

You sent that

not me

[hearty shard]

i hate you...

[unique crane]

I hate you too :3

[upper vapor]

the power of friendship 🌈

[upper vapor]

why does the ellipsis makes it sound so ominous

[hearty shard]

ellipsis

[upper vapor]

...

this

[sinful bronze]

Pong

[hearty shard]

Yeah i assumed so

However

goofy ass word

So ill defenestrate you

[upper vapor]

what would you call it

[upper vapor]

jokes on you, i don't have windows
-# i really wish i could say that and it would be truze

[hearty shard]

3 periods

...

[upper vapor]

that's not 1 word

[hearty shard]

periods

[upper vapor]

ominousifier

[restive turret]

Sorry i don't have that

[plain gazelle]

Using those weird x = bla => thingy ma bobs, would it be possible to easily filter out null refs out of a hashset?

My beginner ass would make a new empty HashSet, foreach through the full one and individually check for nulls and add valid entries to the new one

._.

[upper vapor]

RemoveWhere

it's called a lambda expression btw

[true cedar]

those are anonymous functions btw

[plain gazelle]

ooooo wait i read online that since HashSets cant contain multiples, even nulls apparently, i can "just" .Remove(null) ?

[true cedar]

NO.

[plain gazelle]

.>

[true cedar]

oh not to u

[upper vapor]

the x => something is the lambda expression

and yes you're creating an anonymous function

okay

[plain gazelle]

[upper vapor]

names are confusing

Pickup wrappers can't be null

you should remove those that are destroyed

[plain gazelle]

like thiiiiiis

[upper vapor]

nononono

that'll throw an exception

you can't modify a collection while iterating through it

that's why you have to use RemoveWhere

[plain gazelle]

right

itemsLoose.RemoveWhere(x => x.IsDestroyed);

?

[upper vapor]

yep

[plain gazelle]

my first time using that thingymabob

:3

[upper vapor]

[plain gazelle]

hmmmm
The medkit was found to be "in a locker", but the pills were not

[grand flower]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/195

[true cedar]

u called it a LAMBDA not a LAMBDA EXPRESSION.

im being pedantic both are valid

[plain gazelle]

Maybe chamber.GetAllItems() doesnt fully get all items..?
hm

it must

why it no work qwq

public static class MapItemInfo
{
    private static HashSet<Pickup> itemsInLockers = [];
    public static HashSet<Pickup> ItemsInLockers
    {
        get
        {
            if (itemsInLockers.Count == 0)
                Sort();
            else
                itemsInLockers.RemoveWhere(x => x.IsDestroyed);
            return itemsInLockers;
        }
    }
    private static HashSet<Pickup> itemsLoose = [];
    public static HashSet<Pickup> ItemsLoose
    {
        get
        {
            if (itemsLoose.Count == 0)
                Sort();
            else
                itemsLoose.RemoveWhere(x => x.IsDestroyed);
            return itemsLoose;
        }
    }
    public static void Sort()
    {
        itemsInLockers.Clear();
        itemsLoose.Clear();

        itemsLoose = new HashSet<Pickup>(Pickup.List);
        foreach (var locker in Locker.List)
        {
            foreach (var chamber in locker.Chambers)
            {
                itemsInLockers.UnionWith(chamber.GetAllItems());
            }
        }
        itemsLoose.ExceptWith(itemsInLockers);
    }
}

At first all "loose" items get a yellow beacon, then i show that only the flashlight and upper right keycard in the locker are considered "in" the locker/part of its lootpool or stuff ._.

[grand flower]

bump

[slate flume]

Anyone know why I sometimes get ghost players in my game?

Every once in a while, a player drops connection with the server but doesn't die

It creates this like "ghost" where I can't kick them, ban them, etc. but they exist as a player

[grand flower]

Plugin bug probably

Check local admin logs for exceptions

[slate flume]

Another question

How are devs able to show hints so far off the screen?

[grand flower]

bumpity bump

need to know if it's deterministic

for a project

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[true cedar]

FUCK

[teal junco]

is there a way to force them one way or the other regardless of the initial state?

[true cedar]

test it

[teal junco]

anyways, i would go and figure it out for you but i just closed SL and i dont wanna start it again

[grand flower]

probably

[teal junco]

so yeah, test it

[grand flower]

and yeah

[teal junco]

you could probably just do that then

[grand flower]

if not it's fine, just a bit more stuff to save

[upper vapor]

<pos>ing every character i believe

[grand flower]

if i don't have to do it, i'd rather not

[teal junco]

do you have a round info container

if so i am interested in seeing what you store

[grand flower]

not at that part yet

working on the file format, and gonna need something to store the initial state at the start so I can apply deltas on top

[true cedar]

nah

ucan do

<align=left><pos=-100> or wtv

along with like 2 other methods

[teal junco]

good luck!

[upper vapor]

hmm

[teal junco]

i probably wont finish mine, but i actually think it was really useful to me for understanding binary encoding

i may pick it up again at some point just as a film-making tool

but that's a big maybe

[grand flower]

started on ours because we wanna be able to get proof for any infraction

[upper vapor]

you've never really worked with binary if you haven't broken 5 plugins with 2 bytes
-# endianness

[teal junco]

hahaha

i was thinking it would be a really good moderation tool

[grand flower]

and it's a fun project, albeit a behemoth with the way we're doing things

[teal junco]

and 90% of people wouldnt see it coming

[grand flower]

heh

[teal junco]

although uhhhh

[grand flower]

no point in secrecy for that kind of stuff

[teal junco]

you wont catch any Hard-Rs

because vsr

[grand flower]

yeah, dumb af

never heard of any other game having something like that in place

[teal junco]

i mean my guess is most trolls wont read enough to find out theres a recorder

[grand flower]

eh word goes out fast once someone gets sanctioned because of it

and besides

[teal junco]

i can kind-of understand it but also its a primarily voice chat game

[grand flower]

lots of other games with voice chat

that don't arbitrarily prevent you from doing stuff

[upper vapor]

gdpr

[grand flower]

[teal junco]

yeah

[upper vapor]

wait...

[grand flower]

you can't just throw out gdpr like it's a response to everything

that's a per server basis

NW has nothing to do with it

[upper vapor]

can you record US ppl but not EU ppl?

[teal junco]

source games have STV which literally records everything that happens in the server

including voice chat

[grand flower]

^

[teal junco]

i havent seen any legal issues

[grand flower]

NW is just being stupid af

restrictions for the sake of it

oh well

brb quick shopping trip

[upper vapor]

maybe they just wanna make sure they don't catch a lawsuit

[teal junco]

is there a way to get players to sign consent to record their voice? not useful for this specifically but im curious...

[grand flower]

1 - they wouldn't

[teal junco]

i might need to reread VSR

i am planning on putting a server up when i turn 16

[grand flower]

no

¯_(ツ)_/¯

just put it on the pile of stuff you can't do for no actual reason

[teal junco]

i remember how much some developers complained about reloading becoming client side and i wonder if stuff like that gives Northwood a cocaine high they cant replicate any other way

and thats why speaker ID is a byte and you cant really customize gun properties

[grand flower]

Tbh speaker ids being a byte is like, fine IMO

I'm talking more about arbitrary VSR stuff than gameplay decisions

[upper vapor]

why would you have more than 256 distinct audio players 😭

[grand flower]

SL issues are something else

VSR is stupid

[teal junco]

well like, its good enough for 99.99% of people, and im pretty sure there will be only like one issue with that in the entire human history

[upper vapor]

oh you meant like netID would be better?

[teal junco]

but it just feels really clausterphobic to me

and to save like

3 bytes

[teal junco]

no i want uint32 speaker IDs and i want them now

[upper vapor]

why tho

[teal junco]

because im always afraid of something going wrong

[grand flower]

Your server wont handle that much audio data being streamed

[teal junco]

youre absolutely right

[grand flower]

And until you find a time where 255 speakers arent enough, I dont think NW is gonna change it

[teal junco]

but my fear is not rational

maybe as a coping method i should ask a bunch of people to install a plugin designed to monitor speaker ID usage and watch as the peak speaker ID usage is 15 sounds

[upper vapor]

where is that in the VSR/EULA?

[teal junco]

and i will finally come to my senses and realize there is no issue

[grand flower]

Nothing in VSR that states you can get consent to bypass the rule

[upper vapor]

i meant for storing voice

at all

[grand flower]

If you mean audio recording, idk off the top of my head

!vsr

[regal lake]

https://scpslgame.com/Verified_server_rules.pdf

[teal junco]

two things i am truly upset by:

• Client side parenting only works on NetworkIdentities
• i cant wait for the official custom roles (assuming it comes off the backburner and into developer time)

[upper vapor]

i couldn't find anything with the keyword "audio" or "voice"

[teal junco]

Honestly though Northwood has really been feeding us well lately

im grateful.

[upper vapor]

david mentioned

[teal junco]

they never had to add primitives

but they did

primitives are honestly where it all started going downhill

after that there was no going back for Northwood

now look what has happened

CUSTOM KEYCARDS

[grand flower]

You're right, cant see it in VSR hmmm

I just know it's forbidden

[upper vapor]

better ask tho yeah

[grand flower]

So actually interested in where that's stated

[teal junco]

this is my favorite detail in the VSR

yes, i will post racist homophobic pornographic swearing via CASSIE and the only reason that more people dont is because the VSR forbids it

[upper vapor]

this is all i can find

[upper vapor]

well, there are certain words that can sound like another word

[teal junco]

i remember my days as a CASSIE engineer...

it was not fun

[upper vapor]

wha

[teal junco]

i cant imagine Cassie engineering racist shit, but i guess it makes sense that some people would do that

its the internet after all lol

[upper vapor]

yeah

[teal junco]

it was a part of my job to make CASSIE say certain words that he couldnt normally

one second

[upper vapor]

ohhhh

[teal junco]

lemme find some

[upper vapor]

with jams?

[teal junco]

yeparoo

[upper vapor]

[teal junco]

@upper vapor enjoy these

they were painful to make and served zero purpose but thats everything in SCP SL

"Civilian" more like

[upper vapor]

siwillein 😭😭

[teal junco]

here is the first CASSIE engineer and it was when i discovered the wonders of cassie engineering

my friend made this one

and i thought "wow thats fucking genius"

[upper vapor]

smart

[slate flume]

Baller!

Thank you guys

[grand flower]

nope

not deterministic

more work i guess

[true cedar]

why is this so important

[upper vapor]

replay

[grand flower]

would've been simpler

it's fine, I can grab initial state at round start

[true cedar]

oh

[teal junco]

how are you gonna do item physics?

just recording the items position and the actors are gravity off

[grand flower]

not planned

[teal junco]

also do you plan to have the dummies actually performing the actions like opening doors or just letting the world take care of that

[teal junco]

fair enough, its a moderation tool primarily i guess

[grand flower]

no interaction

state handles the world

[grand flower]

doors are deterministic

in the sense that their sync id is deterministic

so that's good at least

makes identifying them simple (and cheap since they're bytes)

[covert flame]

Okay so now when I want to remove the role from the player, what do I do? or will it get removed when the player leaves the server, or is that done manually? because it's stuck on the player now, I've tried a few things but nothing has worked so I'm just gonna ask for help instead lol

[upper vapor]

Remove then from the members dictionary

[grand flower]

fuck my life

the hard hard way it is

[upper vapor]

Does that exist in .net standard?

[grand flower]

can plugins be .net standard 2.1?

[restive turret]

Yes but not in net48

Or maybe sorry idk if exist

[upper vapor]

Nvm

[upper vapor]

Yes

[restive turret]

But definitely does in net5+

[grand flower]

lemme install .net standard 2.1 then

[upper vapor]

It's only a thing from .net 7

[upper vapor]

You have it

Just change the target framework

[grand flower]

rider's not letting me heh

[restive turret]

Ah ye then that

[upper vapor]

What

[restive turret]

Rider issue