plugins-dev-chat

[grand flower]

Maybe some MMOs

Besides you start getting to a point where you get diminishing returns

There's only so much you can do via modding

The rest is on NW's side of things

[covert flame]

Ohh, wait a minute, does that function only set it for as long as the Player class exists, so once the player leaves it will go back to nothing (unless it's set again)

[upper vapor]

yes

it's temporary

[covert flame]

Ahh, okay, well thank god I went the saving to a db then granting when they join

because that actually works very well for what I want

[austere iron]

Hey

I have problems with doors

My players can open locked doors

is there anything in the config that could cause this?

[unique crane]

This sounds more like plugin issue

Do you have any plugin that works with doors

like remote keycard?

[hearty shard]

remote keycard moment

or exiled

or both

[upper vapor]

c*dm*d

[unique crane]

Does the word "job" scare you

[upper vapor]

kinda

[royal mica]

The doors AI has bren overtrained and they are now too polite

[plain gazelle]

This error appears about every second while a dummy is in spectator
Is this base game? I cant find anything about it here but hopefully im just too dumb or sth

[hearty shard]

Fixed next update afaik

[plain gazelle]

Thank you ^^

[viral rivet]

how can i disable scp 330 for a specific player?

[hearty shard]

InteractingScp330 or smth event

ev.IsAllowed = false;

[viral rivet]

thanks

[lethal cradle]

can someone help me try to set up lab api
in the only tutorial i found (the wiki doesn't help much) they have a managed folder i cant find it sooo uh what. i updated the beta too
heres the link idk https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PZ-9KV7bJs

[hearty shard]

Managed is part of the Dedicated Server

[lethal cradle]

can you explain on that what does this mean 😭

[hearty shard]

its the same servers use

its the server version of SL

[lethal cradle]

okay thank you

found it thanks

for the labAPI does it have to be net4.8 or can it be any verison?

oh nevermind i js found my awnser on the wiki

[hearty shard]

framework 4.8 is required

you can use mscorlib.dll (from the server files)

to add some extra stuff though

[lethal cradle]

my storage is gonna die if i keep on downloading new things

[hearty shard]

also you can use language 12

but yeah framework has to be 4.8

[lethal cradle]

alright

[main zenith]

anyone maybe has any idea how can i make PickUp update its position more quickly. i making my own cosmetic plugin the problem is i dont have really idea how to make pickup move smoothly or Update pretty quickly i already tried parenting pickup and updating the transform in my own way by running function(below) every frame but its too slow

      public void UpdateCosmetic(Player player, CosmeticHolder config)
       {
           Vector3 worldMove = Vector3.zero;
           if (config.CosmeticConfig.AttachmentType == AttachmentType.Head)
           {
                worldMove = player.Camera.rotation * config.CosmeticConfig.PositionOffset;
               worldMove = worldMove + player.Camera.position;
           }
           else
           {
               worldMove = player.Rotation * config.CosmeticConfig.PositionOffset;
               worldMove = worldMove + player.Position;
           }
            if(config.CosmeticConfig.CosmeticType == CosmeticType.Item)
           {
               config.ItemCosmetic.Position = worldMove;

           }

[hearty shard]

if ur parenting then just parent it and dont update position again

i think?

[main zenith]

no i mean in first attemp i tried parenting and the this function but the object is too slow

[unique crane]

Wdym

[worthy rune]

i dont think theres much you can do to improve it

[main zenith]

damn

[random scaffold]

someone big brain

how i can return normal view?

bold

[upper vapor]

What

[viral rivet]

How can i get an effect using StatusEffectBase?

[hearty shard]

what

if you already have the effect then you have the effect

[viral rivet]

Slowness

[hearty shard]

player.GetEffect<Slowness>()

[viral rivet]

?

[hearty shard]

you asked how to get effect from StatusEffectBase

[hearty shard]

or something

[viral rivet]

i need it for enable effect

[hearty shard]

player.EnableEffect<Slowness>()

[viral rivet]

thanks

[random scaffold]

it looks bad

[upper vapor]

I have no idea what you're talking about

Pretty much 0 context

[unique crane]

Some context on what your doing?

[main zenith]

why i cant attach primitive to the player Camera?
PrimitiveObjectToy.Create(player.Camera.gameObject.transform)
this works perfectly fine with player transform but with camera the object is always at 0,0,0 with no rotation

[upper vapor]

The camera doesn't have a net identity

Set the position of the primitive to Camera.localPosition

The parent should be the player's go

[hearty shard]

Yeah you need a NetworkIdentity on it for it to work

[main zenith]

i need to attach this object to player head there is no possible ways? maybe attaching it to the rig of the player head?

[hearty shard]

you can probably parent it server side

wont be as smooth

[tulip kiln]

I asked that question not that long ago

Since the topic came up, @worthy rune what do you think about this? ^

[worthy rune]

its something thats being looked into

no promises

[restive turret]

Soon™️

[tulip kiln]

Anyone knows what is the MTF card's permission color? I can't get it quite right with a custom keycard

[restive turret]

Tried to do the same, cant sadly

[tulip kiln]

LabAPI Gods (maintainers) may just throw color values please 🙏

wait I see that CustomPermsDetail accepts null as the color which will make it default

But LabAPI's custom keycard method doesn't allow the color to be null

😭

[restive turret]

F

[random scaffold]

it looks bad

how return old bold style in visual studio

very small letters

[tulip kiln]

Ctrl+ (?)

[random scaffold]

no

its not size

[unique crane]

Im gonna refactor these to like keycard detail struct

or something

anyways

[upper vapor]

Skull issue

Go into the theme settings

[upper vapor]

You can't attach it to the player's head
You can, however, parent it to the player's game object and offset it so it's at the camera's position
Unfortunately it won't follow up/down movement unless you sync that yourself

[main zenith]

Well i was thinking about that but still its sucks that u cant just attach this to the playerhead by parenting.

[upper vapor]

Hopefully®️ we will get a more robust system soon™️

[lethal cradle]

can someone PLEASE help me get started on writing a plugin my stupid 2 brain cells can't figure out how to like actually open the code in vs

[upper vapor]

Step one: delete VS

[lethal cradle]

oh?

how the hell do i code then 😭

[upper vapor]

Visual studio code, Rider

[lethal cradle]

i have vs code

[upper vapor]

Honestly just pick whatever you find more intuitive or more information on

[lethal cradle]

i can't find how to even like get it to work

[upper vapor]

You can install the C# development kit
That'll save you gigabytes of space

[lethal cradle]

i already got that

and net4.8

[upper vapor]

As a beginner you're probably better off with "regular" vs tho

If you don't already have Rider

[true cedar]

why are you recommending vscode for c#

[buoyant oyster]

rider >>>>>>>

[upper vapor]

Cuz it's gotten pretty good

[lethal cradle]

i mean i know basic c# coding and can code in it

i just can't find how to opperate it for SCP SL

[upper vapor]

Create a new project

[true cedar]

vs is great

[upper vapor]

.NET framework 4.8

[true cedar]

i use it

[upper vapor]

Class library

[upper vapor]

Proof?

[buoyant oyster]

theres a tutorial on the labapi github

[lethal cradle]

i can not understand it at all

[true cedar]

what the hell do u mean proof

[lethal cradle]

how do i edit it so it can be a 4.8 project?

i go to file, new file and make the project with the class library, but can't find the net4.8

[upper vapor]

Istg I'll make templates some day cuz getting started is painful for less experienced devs

[upper vapor]

What are you selecting

Show what you've tried

[upper vapor]

Show that you use VS

[true cedar]

why is my word not good enough

[upper vapor]

Cuz I thought you're a Rider user

[true cedar]

huh

[upper vapor]

Might be confusing you with someone else

[true cedar]

ive never used rider and i refuse to do so

[upper vapor]

Skull issues

I refuse to go back to VS

We've come to a mutual conclusion

[buoyant oyster]

i never used vs in the first place 😎

[upper vapor]

LETS GOOOOO

W

[icy knoll]

i used vs like maybe 5 years ago

then learnt about rider

switched

[buoyant oyster]

always loved jetbrains ides

[icy knoll]

never went back

[buoyant oyster]

super easy to use

[true cedar]

ik rider has a bunch of suggestions and shit but im good enough at c# where i dont need those

[icy knoll]

same

[upper vapor]

Disable them

[true cedar]

so i don't see a reason to use it

[lethal cradle]

i opened it in vs and made a 'Class Library (.NET Framework)' in 4.8, so now i have that just opened in vs and not vs code

[buoyant oyster]

even without those rider is just better

[upper vapor]

Also you never know when it's smarter than you

[true cedar]

what about it is better

[upper vapor]

Git integration

Overall feel

[buoyant oyster]

almost everything

[upper vapor]

It's

Whole

[buoyant oyster]

just as a whole almost everything about it is better than vs

[static osprey]

doesnt vs have that?

[upper vapor]

It's uh

Rather barebones

[true cedar]

i have github desktop so

[upper vapor]

Bruh

[worthy rune]

is it?

[buoyant oyster]

👎

[upper vapor]

I've seen my classmates lose their (small) mind over it so it can't be very good

Comparatively to VSC

[worthy rune]

i stoped using the intergrated git solutions

[static osprey]

i mean ive seen people lose their mind over github as a whole

[upper vapor]

Maybe that's for the better lol

[worthy rune]

i use git fork client now

[upper vapor]

VS git is uh

[true cedar]

i just dont see a reason to switch

[worthy rune]

from what i remember VS git is fine tho

[lethal cradle]

okay so like im trying to follow the tutorial, it goes from creating the project to some text

[worthy rune]

didnt have issues its just looks outdated

[static osprey]

indoctrination

dont listen to them use what u want

[upper vapor]

Well, I think the UI is much cleaner, that's a personal opinion
And now, a rational standpoint:
VS now has quite some of Rider's refactorings, though not all of them

Also the decompiler

[lethal cradle]

wait hold on, so i have no idea what the hell i just did, i downloaded the labapi and clicked on this project file and it opened it (attached) what do i do now

[upper vapor]

In Rider is much better

[true cedar]

i just use dnspy lol

[upper vapor]

You downloaded the source code for labapi....

You need to create a new project

[lethal cradle]

i already did

and no idea what to do with it

[upper vapor]

Yeah it's useful but I find it more useful not to have to switch between 4 windows

[buoyant oyster]

this is for JetBrains Rider, not Visual Studio but i would recommend rider for new programmers anyway

[true cedar]

i do actually despise vs's intellisense sometimes

[hearty shard]

only thing i dont like

about rider

is it kills itself sometimes

[buoyant oyster]

wdym

[hearty shard]

just doesnt load properly sometimes on startup

[buoyant oyster]

ive never had that happen, might just be an issue on your machine

[true cedar]

in the end visual studio is Not Good but also its what im used to so

[upper vapor]

Yep

[lethal cradle]

im js quitting vs and going to that

[upper vapor]

.idea folder lmao

[upper vapor]

break the cycle

if you want

[true cedar]

nah

[upper vapor]

vs settings interface looks absolutely disgusting

default windows controls

like

are we doing wpf?? 😭😭

[true cedar]

wait

holy shit

rider doesn't have rainbow braces for c# unless u pay money LMFAOO???

[lethal cradle]

im installing rider at this point

[upper vapor]

can confirm

[lethal cradle]

holy shit my pc is about to explode

[upper vapor]

okay gay braces

[true cedar]

NOTE: If you need C# or C++ support in Rider IDE, these features are only available in the paid version. The Lite version does not include them. Upgrade to the paid version for full functionality.

unbelievable

[upper vapor]

who made that plugin

[lethal cradle]

your telling me i gotta pay now

💔

[true cedar]

zhihao zhang

[upper vapor]

that's a plugin

[true cedar]

no its just a plugin

[lethal cradle]

oh thank god

[true cedar]

but its free and built-in in vs

[upper vapor]

i'll just remake it

-# never

[terse bone]

my favorite

[upper vapor]

well there are those lines that help
still no rainbow braces though

[upper vapor]

vsc has them too 🙄

some people love installing visual studio bloatware instead of using something lightweight

[lethal cradle]

i used to code in notepad

💔

[upper vapor]

have you tried

therapy

[lethal cradle]

YES RIDER INSTALLED

[true cedar]

vscode for rust and haskell and everything else

vs for c#

[upper vapor]

for one

thing

[true cedar]

yup !

[upper vapor]

okay, okay, JetBrains has a separate IDE for many programming languages
BUT
IJ Professional can do web dev, python as well
same for Rider

[true cedar]

i dont do webdev

[terse bone]

we should all be using arch and basic text editor

[upper vapor]

neovim

[terse bone]

lightweight

[upper vapor]

[terse bone]

right

[upper vapor]

that's your level-up message

[terse bone]

lmao

[true cedar]

WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THERE SO MANY IDES

[upper vapor]

they're IDEs

not a text editor with extensions

[icy knoll]

vsc be like

[upper vapor]

specially crafted for a given programming language

[lethal cradle]

ok yall i did it

now what

[upper vapor]

now you can go back to the wiki

[lethal cradle]

it feels so much nicer than vs because i dont have to instal so much

ok sir

or ma'am

idk

[true cedar]

they don't even have one for haskell

[upper vapor]

my condolences

let me just apply at JB and make HaskellWhatever

[true cedar]

haskellkeller

[upper vapor]

😭

[lethal cradle]

can someone help me get rid of the errors

[buoyant oyster]

right click the red things

"show context actions"

"import missing references in file"

[lethal cradle]

got one of them, the labapi properties, but not this one

[restive turret]

1

System.Version

[lethal cradle]

got it

thanks

[buoyant oyster]

if you want to use an object type you have to make sure you explicitly say that you want to use the object type, usually when you type it out you can choose to automatically import it by pressing tab (ex: type Player, it should show a pop up menu and you can select which Player type you want to import. the IDE will add the import statement automatically once you select it)

also i would not suggest you name your project "demo", xd

that was just so i could make the video

[lethal cradle]

ill change it soon enough

now i got this problem following the tutorial

on the video theres no problem, but here it is

[buoyant oyster]

whenever you see the error line

right click it and see the context actions it shows

[lethal cradle]

gives me this

if i do the first one adds some weird code and still error line

[terse bone]

try casting MessageDuration to ushort

[lethal cradle]

it already is ushort

[buoyant oyster]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/tree/master/LabApi.Examples use these examples instead theyre easier to understand if you dont know what youre doing

[lethal cradle]

ok

[buoyant oyster]

can also look at the source for some plugins in #1336031121699377213 if you want to know how to accomplish some tasks

i call dibs on not explaining basegame

[lethal cradle]

uhh no idea what that is yet

[buoyant oyster]

you'll definitely need to import some dlls from (SL Dedicated Server location)\SCPSL_Data\Managed at some point, Assembly-CSharp.dll is an important part, you'll absolutely have to import, publicize, and decompile it at some point

its deceptively simple but i dont feel like explaining it

[lethal cradle]

northwood loves making this so complicated im still lost 💔

i just want to like say hi on spawn

broadcast a message

and the amount of redlines is insane

[buoyant oyster]

you're not to the point where bad northwood code would be giving you problems yet

[limber silo]

what does this say

[lethal cradle]

im js copying the first line of code from the wiki and get this

[buoyant oyster]

i would suggest you watch a few tutorials on c# so you can get a feel for project structure and the language in general

[lethal cradle]

i can code in c# but i can't put in a folder into a folder

like i have made simple code before and for example 5 way rps, or making tables, or text input games

but this

no

[limber silo]

these are errors in Class1.cs

go to EventsHandler

and show what Problems say

[lethal cradle]

events handler is already deleted thats gone

[limber silo]

aw

I was curious what it was

[lethal cradle]

i was following a video on trying to broadcast a message when you join

[royal mica]

technically you can

if I understand you correctly

[buoyant oyster]

writing simple console apps is very different from what youre doing rn yea

[viral rivet]

Is there any news on this issue?

[lethal cradle]

it doens't help that english is my 3rd language bro help me

[plain gazelle]

Idk, i filed a bug report about it...

[viral rivet]

sadness

[unique crane]

I kinda need more replication steps

[restive turret]

Sometimes scale not sync

even faking the scale sometimes not works

so

[restive turret]

This means as did before player.Scale

[viral rivet]

i fixed it by adding this in the event handler

    public override void OnPlayerJoined(PlayerJoinedEventArgs ev)
    {
        if (SCP999.Player999 != null) {
            ev.Player.SpawnNetworkIdentity(SCP999.Player999.ReferenceHub.netIdentity);
        }
    }```

[lethal cradle]

i can't find how to fix this

how do i add a reference?

[restive turret]

https://solutionfall.com/question/how-can-i-import-a-dll-file-into-jetbrains-rider-ide/

Search engine is on your side

🙏

[static osprey]

change type 0 to broadcastflags. something

[restive turret]

he didnt added the ACS as a reference

[tulip kiln]

at some point I just went with manually adding references to csproj

[icy knoll]

i still do that

because when you do this, afaik it does the path and not $(REFERENCES)\Dependency.dll

[tulip kiln]

yeah

Though my reason was Visual Studio saying "This reference is invalid" or some other similiar crap, yet it would work perfectly fine when forced into the csproj file

[icy knoll]

sorry for the silly question guys, how would I replace smth like this with a different number in IL?

like ive matched it but ive never needed to replace a value like this with a new value

[buoyant oyster]

it does

but its easier to understand for someone thats new and it still works

[icy knoll]

nvm codematcher has SetOperand lol

[true cedar]

just make sure its the right type btw

if you set the operand to 5 as an int it won't work for example

[icy knoll]

ldc.r4 is a float

[true cedar]

yea

but if you do like

[icy knoll]

that's my code

lol

should work fine hopefully?

maybe i should add a check for 25f as well

[true cedar]

yea

ive just done stuff like (OpCodes.Ldc_R4, 10) too many times

[icy knoll]

and it crashes?

[true cedar]

well doesnt work cause lkke

its a type mismatch

but it always gives u a super cryptic error

[lethal cradle]

GUYS

I HAVE FINALLY MADE

[icy knoll]

i cant believe the f just is basically a type cast for float lol

[lethal cradle]

A WORKING PLUGIN

HOLYYY SHIII

i did

it

wow

only 9 projects needed

[true cedar]

i meannnn

calling it is a type cast is

[teal junco]

Does anyone know how I can find a given Dummy's actions? And how I can find its keyboard/mouse emulator?

I found a class that might be relevant, but idk

one sec

DummyKeyEmulator

I noticed that the actions dont consistently populate which worries me.

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-15313749163340250467

[unique crane]

Nice

[lethal cradle]

now i gotta figure out how to test it...

[upper vapor]

"a working plugin (it compiled)"

you have to put the built dll into the plugins folder

check the "installing plugins" article

[celest thorn]

it works

already

if it compiles

its already a massive win

[slender lynx]

compile complete (654 warnings)

[upper vapor]

are you sör about that

[upper vapor]

lmfao

[celest thorn]

yes... bugs are features

[slender lynx]

example, killing everyone's ears in the gtag tourney

[celest thorn]

that was 100% intended behavior

[restive turret]

🔥🔥

[lethal cradle]

whenever i try to run my plugin i get ts what the heck man

[icy knoll]

bruh

[lethal cradle]

im sorry if im missing something stupid

[icy knoll]

you need the dedicated server

not the game

[lethal cradle]

OHHHHH

[icy knoll]

ofc that will throw

[lethal cradle]

ok ty

[restive turret]

:DDDD

[pine parcel]

I've tried digging around, how do I get a dummy to fire a gun?

[random scaffold]

nw moment

even dont wanna load lol

nothing in localadmin log

[lethal cradle]

what is that, i use some lemehost instead of that and i saw people use it, WHERE

[random scaffold]

anywhere

its panel

which need install local

but problem stay

[lethal cradle]

what

[random scaffold]

it dont wanna load the server

[random scaffold]

?

[lethal cradle]

like where do i find that

[random scaffold]

https://pterodactyl.io

[lethal cradle]

thank you

[random scaffold]

load the server take 2 minutes

[lethal cradle]

it takes me about 5 minutes on the old loader i used

😭

[random scaffold]

its must start faster

[lethal cradle]

maybe

[random scaffold]

its that

on local it taken 10-15 seconds

[teal junco]

please does anybody know this 🙏

[grand flower]

check how the dummy action to shoot a gun does it

[teal junco]

That relies on whether the server populates the actions correctly

anyhow, a good place to investigate would probably be PopulateDummyActions on FpcModule, and ItemBase

but im kinda clueless on how that works

but its a good starting point i think

[harsh thorn]

give it more cpu to use

or your servers io is slow

if your cpu is low clockspeed itl take longer to start if you limit it to X threads

[pine parcel]

is there any place where all the libs are in their source code form, or is that kept obfuscate by NW?

[grand flower]

You don't have source code access no

but you can decompile the assemblies in the game

Your IDE probably has a way to do so, otherwise there's ILSpy or dotPeek

[pine parcel]

I'm using VS community, so nothing crazy, but it seems to expose some of the dlls, just not sure how much it can't decompile

[hearty shard]

You will never have source code (unless you need a specific piece you can ask a nw dev to give source)

However

You can use tools to decompile the assembly

reminder to only do this on server files

Client files are intended to be less visible

and harder to read

[pine parcel]

that makes sense, and to be fair, writing plugins I don't see what need I would have for how the client interacts, no?

[hearty shard]

yeah

Well

Sometimes its nige

Nice

Because it provides how client handles stuff that server sends and can explain bugs sometimes

But for that, just ask here and you'll try and be helped

[harsh thorn]

most new stuff has less code stripping

only core elements needed to be a client (or older code) are stripped

[hearty shard]

why was this done ? for modding ?

i assume so

[pine parcel]

that's a fair perspective

[hearty shard]

Or easier

[harsh thorn]

mostly cuz there isnt really a reason to, outside of core things

[hearty shard]

makes sense

[grand flower]

is there a way to determine how a player became a spectator

i.e. just connected, suicide, killed by a player etc

[hearty shard]

Role change reason

its stored in the role

But

[grand flower]

what about suicides/killed by another player

[hearty shard]

It doesnt have much detail

[hearty shard]

dying event

Store detains

Details

[grand flower]

I guess yeah

[hearty shard]

Other than that idk

[grand flower]

that'd work

[hearty shard]

would be cool if it was stored

by nw

[random scaffold]

it already have 2

[random scaffold]

3.7

[harsh thorn]

idk then

server loads fast for me

[random scaffold]

nw moment

[plain gazelle]

I can make a Dummy follow me, but is it possible to make a Dummy follow someone else?

With just the RA panel?

[slate flume]

Sometimes this grenade explodes at the player instead of shooting off like it's supposed to

[slate flume]

Use the command and specify a playerID

[slate flume]

Anyone got any ideas?

[plain gazelle]

oh
i tried
dummy follow 3 4
but both dummies 3 and 4 followed me
so it should instead be
dummy follow 3. 4 ?

[slate flume]

Ohh I see nvm ignore what I said, I misread your question

The base-game implementation only allows you to toggle it for yourself afaik

[pine parcel]

anyone know how to track when an item is given to a player via admin panel?

like what the event is

[upper vapor]

ItemAddedEvent or.somethong

Reason RemoteAdmin

[pine parcel]

perfect, thanks!

[upper vapor]

Np

[upper vapor]

Check what classes implement the IDummyActionProvider interface

[grand flower]

@teal junco curious about your demo system

Did you handle ticks having different delta times (server lag)?

[teal junco]

No i didnt

Im not sure how to

[grand flower]

Fair enough

Writing my own atm heh

Probably just gonna store the delta time and play ticks until I run out of budget for the frame or something

[teal junco]

id like to see yours at some point

[grand flower]

idk if I'll be able to show code, just a video of it working maybe

[teal junco]

maybe i could store Time.DeltaTime at the end of frame snapshot, and then just wait that long when I come across one.

it would cause the demo files to be a good portion bigger though, from storing delta time for every single frame

[grand flower]

Maybe yeah

[pine parcel]

so, I'm trying to mess with the behaviour of what happens when the rubber ball is thrown.

I've figured out that the PlayerEvents.DroppedItem works for triggering when the ball is dropped, but PlayerEvents.ThrewItem doesn't work for when the ball is thrown, any ideas?

[grand flower]

There's a Projectile version

ThrewProjectile iirc

[pine parcel]

I'll take a look, ty!

[upper vapor]

"Writing my own ATM" 😭

[grand flower]

[slim rose]

check the class, KeyEmulator if I remember correctly

[teal junco]

DummyKeyEmulator?

Im not sure how to use that, I will look into it later though

[restive turret]

If you already have the dummy saved just get Inventory, the gun itself, and fire

[slim rose]

mhmm, i think is that

[teal junco]

i didnt find such a method, or i missed it

[slim rose]

with DummyActionCollector you can get all action from a dummy, check the DummyAction.Name for find the good weapon est invoke the action with, DummyAction.Action.Invoke()

[restive turret]

I meant like a normal player

[covert flame]

Hey so uhh, quick question, what changes it back, and by that I mean why does showting/hiding your tags (via commands or code), change you back into your original group, and how do I make it not do that?

[upper vapor]

ServerStatic.PermissionsHandler.Members[userId] = groupName;

[covert flame]

Will that make it so doing those commands or refreshing tag through code and stuff like that won't reset the player's usergroup back to default?

[upper vapor]

yep

[covert flame]

Thank you very much

[covert flame]

One last thing, again, thank you so much for helping, I dont think this is a plugin thing, like at all, but when you hide your own badge, should you not be able to see it with the hidden attached on the end, or does the player need the ViewHiddenBadges permissions (but doesnt that permissions let them see all hidden badges)?

[hearty shard]

me when i

[icy knoll]

me when i just found out that System.Text.Json exists inside of the game's dependencies... i can finally get rid of newtonsoft 😭

[hearty shard]

ok doesnt work

💔

oh yeah

thats why

hmm

[hearty shard]

damn...

cant use this with -0.1

💔

[random scaffold]

which layer by default?

on primitives

[harsh thorn]

Default

[random scaffold]

..

which number

[icy knoll]

0

default is 0

[hearty shard]

ced may i know

what is the tick rate

of Scp207

[harsh thorn]

idk

[hearty shard]

can u check !!

[harsh thorn]

look yourself

[random scaffold]

nw moment

[icy knoll]

all i know is that it's atleast 1 tps

[hearty shard]

i am NOT Logger.Debug it

[harsh thorn]

well look at the code

cuz thats what i would need to do

[hearty shard]

its serialized

[unique crane]

30 secs

im about to open unity anyways

[hearty shard]

see david gets it

[icy knoll]

close it david

close it

[unique crane]

Okay

[icy knoll]

let eve logger.debug it

[hearty shard]

i will NOT

[unique crane]

Too bad

[icy knoll]

hehe

[unique crane]

Or just

use stopwatch

[icy knoll]

youre the only person in the world that talks about stopwatch david

[unique crane]

Emmmmmm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965027990939533312/1254651130558939238/scp-scp-sl.gif

[icy knoll]

wow ok

[unique crane]

@hearty shard How many times could you print it already

[hearty shard]

im going to break you

[unique crane]

How so

[hearty shard]

anyway

me when i accidentally make my max hp 0

[icy knoll]

taking a long time for a couple srs smh

[unique crane]

@hearty shard Its 1 second

[hearty shard]

oh

so default

okay

[hearty shard]

thats so fire

whats the multipliers

i forgot

i dont have the original damage values anymore

[hearty shard]

YUCK

ok anyway whats the post processing handling now im just curious

hows it work* i mean

[unique crane]

I guess its the intensity of the post processing effect?

like what else do you think it is

[hearty shard]

hows it work though

[unique crane]

Opacity maybe

[pastel bramble]

i got a problem with perms

doono how to fix it

[hearty shard]

hm

maybe

[royal mica]

What kind of problems?

[pastel bramble]

well im the server owner and i dont have perms for usiong mer commandsa

jesus my typos

[hearty shard]

you need to give yourself perms in the permission file

[pastel bramble]

could you expolain it to me

first time doing it

[hearty shard]

although

[pastel bramble]

yeah found it

[hearty shard]

if ur group is called "owner" should be default all perms

wait is project mer or MER

and r u using cedmod

[pastel bramble]

no

not using cedmod

ive been migrating all plugins from nw api to labapi

i gtg il be back in a bit

but this is how it looks like

[hearty shard]

default:
  inherited_groups: []
  permissions: []
owner:
  inherited_groups: []
  permissions:
  - .*

[pastel bramble]

ok

il try that

ok it worked

[worn gull]

Is this a plugin error [2025-06-23 17:09:46.327 +02:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentException: Destination array was not long enough. Check destIndex and length, and the array's lower bounds Parameter name: destinationArray at System.Array.Copy (System.Array sourceArray, System.Int32 sourceIndex, System.Array destinationArray, System.Int32 destinationIndex, System.Int32 length) [0x000cb] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0 at System.Array.Copy (System.Array sourceArray, System.Array destinationArray, System.Int32 length) [0x0002c] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0 at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.AutosyncMessage..ctor (Mirror.NetworkWriter writer, InventorySystem.Items.ItemIdentifier itemId) [0x0004e] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0 at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.AutosyncWriterBase.Send () [0x00010] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0 [2025-06-23 17:09:46.327 +02:00] [STDOUT] at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.AutosyncWriterBase.Dispose () [0x00000] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0 [2025-06-23 17:09:46.327 +02:00] [STDOUT] at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.AutosyncItem.ServerSendTargetRpc (ReferenceHub receiver, System.Action`1[T] extraData) [0x00020] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0 [2025-06-23 17:09:46.327 +02:00] [STDOUT] at InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.ChaosKeycardItem.ServerOnNewPlayerConnected (ReferenceHub hub) [0x00007] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0 [2025-06-23 17:09:46.327 +02:00] [STDOUT] at InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.KeycardItem.<OnTemplateReloaded>b__46_0 (ReferenceHub hub) [0x00008] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0 [2025-06-23 17:09:46.327 +02:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.Action`1[ReferenceHub].invoke_void_T(ReferenceHub) [2025-06-23 17:09:46.327 +02:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper dynamic-method) ReferenceHub.ReferenceHub.Start_Patch2(ReferenceHub)

[2025-06-23 17:09:53.348 +02:00] [STDOUT] Parameter name: key
[2025-06-23 17:09:53.348 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at System.Collections.Concurrent.ConcurrentDictionary`2[TKey,TValue].ThrowKeyNullException () [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-06-23 17:09:53.348 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at System.Collections.Concurrent.ConcurrentDictionary`2[TKey,TValue].TryRemove (TKey key, TValue& value) [0x00008] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-06-23 17:09:53.348 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at RemoteAdmin.QueryProcessor.OnDestroy () [0x00018] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0```

```[2025-06-23 17:11:25.426 +02:00] [STDOUT] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[2025-06-23 17:11:25.426 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Modules.EventManagerModule.LateUpdate () [0x00006] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0```

It just happened

No previous error

After round restart

[grand flower]

Northwood

[pastel bramble]

not from what ive read

[grand flower]

Happens to us too

It's the networked snake game

[pastel bramble]

anyone can tell me how to use mer for a few stuff like changing door perms

and spawning items

[brazen dune]

you dont need MER to do that

[brazen dune]

nah, somebody played snake for too long

[pastel bramble]

is it possible to use MER

[brazen dune]

and it does not have this functionality

[royal mica]

Existing doors or doors spawned?

[pastel bramble]

spawned doors

i fugured it out tho

i just need helkp with having it spawn in on round start

il have a lok

[heady turret]

@unique crane do you know what width and height for canvas that i can make a hint in unity for easier posing in plugins?

[hearty shard]

omg david

did u fix the black screen yet

[pastel bramble]

i need some help with MER

cant get it to load

my map

life sucks

[unique crane]

Eee ill look later

[heady turret]

okk

[true cedar]

i already have one

gimme a sec

[heady turret]

🚙

[hearty shard]

pai moment

nerd..

[true cedar]

although if u do have the up to date hint display

mine is off by a little bit

it might be the font idk

[unique crane]

Ill just look in latest master

It didnt change at all

[true cedar]

i think it might be a unity version thing

because i remember the line height being 40.665 when i tried it out with unity like a year ago

but now its 39.9

but the base game still has it as 40.665

yes i actually need my model to be that precise

[grand flower]

Anyone else get a bug with players sometimes not getting the Pocket Corroding effect in the PD

They just stay in there with no damage over time

Dunno if it's us or a NW bug

[true cedar]

that happens if u dcreplace i think

if you dcreplace and then escape it sends you back to the pocket dimension w/o corroding (at least it used to do that)

i thought i fixed it but maybe i didnt teehee

[grand flower]

Huh, interesting

I'll try that out ty

Did rewrite the whole player cloner stuff and I do remember setting up the PocketCorroded stuff so I'll chdck

no QA says they tried that and it's not dcreplace

  public override void OnTick()
  {
    if (!NetworkServer.active)
      return;
    RoomIdentifier room;
    if (this.Hub.TryGetLastKnownRoom(out room) && room.Name == RoomName.Pocket)
    {
      this.Hub.playerStats.DealDamage((DamageHandlerBase) new UniversalDamageHandler(this._damagePerTick, DeathTranslations.PocketDecay));
      this._damagePerTick += 0.1f;
    }
    else
      this.ServerDisable();
  }

this is PocketCorroding's tick so I wonder if it just disables itself because for some reason you're not marked as being in the PD

[upper vapor]

np
the viewhiddenbadges is required to see others' hidden badges

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

what if you just set the last known room

[grand flower]

I'm just gonna patch it to get the current room of the player if last known room isn't correct

[upper vapor]

[grand flower]

not like it's expensive to do

[ashen hornet]

actualy, it does

not sure if it works tho, it did for me the last time I tested it

[unique crane]

@heady turret @true cedar

[hearty shard]

when make ruei basegame

[unique crane]

id rather explore alternatives

to hints

[hearty shard]

yeah

but yk what i mean

[upper vapor]

texttoy parented to the camera

[hearty shard]

or or

ban you

[upper vapor]

ban who?

[hearty shard]

that one

anyway

david have u fixed black screen yet

[tulip kiln]

mr david can you leak the top secret NTF card perm color? #plugins-dev-chat message

[hearty shard]

david can you fix the game

[true cedar]

can u show me the font settings

[hearty shard]

release 16.0 already

[true cedar]

of roboto light

[upper vapor]

can we please bring back roboto mono into the font asset list or whatever

🙏

[tulip kiln]

the david wish list grows even larger

[upper vapor]

real

[hearty shard]

i was gonna make a bug report on labapi

and then i forgot

the bug

that was yesterday and i still dunno what bug it was lol

[unique crane]

Dementia

[hearty shard]

its from playing SL

or EXILED

or both

[unique crane]

Must be exiled

[lethal cradle]

How can i give a player an item when a bool has success like how do palce it into thier inventory, whats the command if i have for ex

if (success)
  response = "The Coin has spawned!";
else
  response = "Failed to spawn your coin :(";
return true;```
for the Item.Dictionary.Add how do i make it to give a coin?

[hearty shard]

player.AddItem

[lethal cradle]

oh

thank you

[hearty shard]

it returns the item

so bool success = player.AddItem() != null;

[true cedar]

pretty please :3

[lethal cradle]

thank you

alright i got it thank you!!

[hearty shard]

why does this not have

ItemAddReason

[unique crane]

@true cedar this?

[upper vapor]

cuz nobody PR'd it

[true cedar]

the thig that shows like

point size and what ot

u have to click on the font file i think

[hearty shard]

YOU didnt

[upper vapor]

i know

[true cedar]

YES

point size of 90 tho what the scallop

[hearty shard]

pai

[true cedar]

this is a big ask but is it possible for u to send the font file

i will forever be indebted to u

[upper vapor]

what if i said

[true cedar]

i think i have that hut

but

idk if its the right one

[upper vapor]

it's from the SL files

david has the "original" ig

[unique crane]

Its not like its changed or whatever

[true cedar]

well Idk

!

maybe im using the wrong font file

@hearty shard its all ur fault

[unique crane]

[hearty shard]

WHAT THE FUCK

I HATE YOU

@upper vapor ur next btw

[upper vapor]

i hate me too

[hearty shard]

ur just not safe

[upper vapor]

yeah

i checked unsafe code in the project settings

are you gonna invade hungary before i invade denmark?

[unique crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805416872962818078/1382760792981504042/AlmirToastEater.gif

[upper vapor]

was that an 018 bouncing in the background

[unique crane]

Maybe

[upper vapor]

david...

is this true

[unique crane]

Yea

[upper vapor]

if you pronounce it, you get kuszkusz

[hushed ember]

Prob not the right channel but can anyone tell me the character limit a cmdbind command can have?

[unique crane]

What

[tulip kiln]

You're missing out 😭

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-gif-6873726998111817089

[random scaffold]

how i can protect destroy button?

by event?

[icy knoll]

primitive

[random scaffold]

i wanna easier way

but also

how i can spawn human target?

[upper vapor]

prefab.name

contains "Dboy"

probably not the same case

[random scaffold]

why wrapper dont have it

bruh

[frank flicker]

Has anyone been able to compile plugins that use C#12 on linux? It would almost be less of a headache to just code with C#9 and not use a windows vm, if I wasn't coding for someone else's repo.

Like I've got the newest dotnet things and mono, but they don't talk to each other

[true cedar]

no

[restive turret]

Install latest .net

Net8 and net9 probably

[true cedar]

and u can use newer c# versions but some features wont work

[restive turret]

Works on my Manjaro VM system

You can just that with.

dotnet --list-sdks

[frank flicker]

For me its either "12 doesnt exist" or "idk how to compile to net4.8"

[restive turret]

obv run that in console

[frank flicker]

I've got 8.0.117

[restive turret]

Also you might need to upgrade your csproj to the new style

Are you sure you compile with dotnet and not mono?

[frank flicker]

Mono is the first screenshot

[restive turret]

.

[frank flicker]

Will try that, thanks

[restive turret]

You can try building this since this tested on my manjaro vm.
https://github.com/SlejmUr/CustomItemsAPI
(Don't forget to set SL_REFERENCES Environment Var for your references)

[random scaffold]

why its called before spawn but its show same?

[hearty shard]

what

because size is reset on role change

also localScale isnt synced

[random scaffold]

but for StartRound it works

[random scaffold]

?

[hearty shard]

thats synced...

[random scaffold]

its for legs of the target toy

[hearty shard]

oh

you have to adjust the entire thing

Admin toys are synced with their scale yeah

But it doesnt do that with every bit of it, its all or nothing

[random scaffold]

then how i can remove legs?

[hearty shard]

i dont think you can

@unique crane ^

Right

You cant delete a specific part of a d boy target

[unique crane]

No this is all under a single netidentity

[hearty shard]

Thought so

[random scaffold]

bruh

[untold raft]

What is difference between RoleBase.Team and .Team

[random scaffold]

nothing

.Team => RoleBase.Team;

[untold raft]

In Labapi Exist something similar in exiled call Role Side?

[hearty shard]

.Faction

Basegame

[untold raft]

Okay thank'u

Is It FoundationForces and EnemyForces or this is something different?

[hearty shard]

Foundation is NTF and stuff

Enemy is chaos etc

i dont rememeber what Faction has specifially

[frank flicker]

ok I think I've spent long enough fumbling about to ask for help 🙃
Where? I've tried a few different places and tried REFERENCES_PATH too with no luck (missing every assembly that is in the Managed folder). I'm new to both rider and this version of .csproj stuff now so I don't know where much is lol
I'm sure theres a file I could directly modify outside Rider to set it but at this point I'm

[restive turret]

Pff are you sure there SL_References point inside, so the end of it is /Managed?

[frank flicker]

yep, although its the home directory with a name that will doxx me, not sure if that should be a different/generic path instead somehow?

/home/basically my full name because I make poor decisions/.local/share/Steam/steamapps..../Managed

thanks for indulging me btw

clearly I didn't set them hard enough

[grand flower]

Is the start position of elevators based on map seed

[pine parcel]

Is there any way to override the default value for things like health of an scp in a plugin

[teal junco]

theres approximately 9326 different enums that represent the roles in some way or another

its crazy

there was a team enum that represented MTF (and guards), D class, Scientists, and chaos

and there is faction

I think spawnable faction

and leading team iirc

[covert flame]

How come when hiding my badge i am unable to see it with the hidden part on the end?

[restive turret]

Lel, linux issue or something idk

[upper vapor]

you can set properties in the csproj

create a ProejctName.csproj.user file

(in the same dir as the main csproj)

[restive turret]

Or make something like this.
https://github.com/SlejmUr/SCPSL_PluginCollection/blob/master/ReferencePaths.props.user.template
(Except remove the .template end of the file)
And will be easier tbh my wrong doing that

[covert flame]

Also, it's not a plugin issue, because I don't have any plugins in the server

[restive turret]

What

Oh

Its not plugin issue

If you remove your tag it will remove for you

So you locally it will not display

[covert flame]

Yeah but is the tag not meant to be the tag, greyed out and have (hidden) on the end

[royal mica]

The env vars in Rider only applies for the program env, not for your terminal

for the terminal to work, you need to explicit set in your environment

[frank flicker]

[restive turret]

Linux issue

[restive turret]

export SL_REFERENCES=/path/to/SL/SL_Data/Manager

Probably

[royal mica]

depends on the distro, that works only for that sessioin

[restive turret]

Just don't close the terminal

[royal mica]

To make it permanent, you need to put it in ~/.bashrc or the shell equivalent

[restive turret]

or /etc/profile i think

Idk

[royal mica]

that is system wide

[restive turret]

Not really used linux for these

[royal mica]

Personally I love linux and hate windows with a burning passion, but that is me

[restive turret]

Not like anyone will change it

[restive turret]

I hate both

Something easier on linux something easier on win

[royal mica]

Each has tradeoffs yeah

Atleast we are able to choose what works the best

[restive turret]

I have vm for Linux for reason

[icy knoll]

me when that only works until you restart/shut down

[restive turret]

Me when just don't

[icy knoll]

me when your pc will degrade

[restive turret]

degree deez nuts

[royal mica]

*only works until you close the terminal

[slate flume]

I'm going crazy

I've spent the last 20 minutes trying to figure out why causing an explosion is damaging no one

Gonna crash out istg

[royal mica]

Event? IsAllowed = false? Not a real grenade?

[slate flume]

Well I think I know the problem now

One sec lemme check before I sound stupid

[worthy rune]

is it spawned from Projectile, or thrown by a player

[slate flume]

Okay nvm I was wrong I didn't know the problem

I thought maybe the problem was some bullshit I read earlier

So I did

But that didn't fix it

This sucks

[royal mica]

I assume the Friendly Fire does not work, right?

[slate flume]

Yeah none of this works

[royal mica]

Does the explosion work for non friendly role?

[slate flume]

They're a tutorial

I'm a zombie

It just doesn't work

Lmao

Oh

Am I stupid

Lemme check

Yeah no

They're not spawn protected

[royal mica]

I assume not god mod either

[slate flume]

Nope

[royal mica]

does a ClassD die?

[slate flume]

No

[upper vapor]

i have a thought

[slate flume]

I love thoughts

[upper vapor]

nv,m

[slate flume]

Damn

[royal mica]

I'm very confused why that doesn't work

[upper vapor]

ExplosionSpawningEventArgs check this

[royal mica]

Wait, can spectators even damage people?

[upper vapor]

if you make a footprint of them, yes

[slate flume]

Okay I discovered something

The person that kills me takes no damage

Everyone else does

[upper vapor]

can you show the damage handler, what its values are

[slate flume]

Like which values

[upper vapor]

wait

[slate flume]

👍🏼

[upper vapor]

onplayerdeath is called after the zombie dies

[slate flume]

Yes

[upper vapor]

so the footprint's role is spectator but that shouldn't be an issue i don't think

[slate flume]

Even if it was

I added the

Friendly fire

[upper vapor]

how about you store the footprint in Dying and retrieve it in Death

[slate flume]

Well the thing is

[slate flume]

^

If the footprint was the issue, wouldn't it mean no one gets damaged?

The explosion itself seemingly works for everyone except for the person who kills me

It damages, doors, other players

Just not that one person

[upper vapor]

how is a dead zombie supposed to be damaged

[slate flume]

I spawned two dummies

The one who killed me no die

The one who didn't kill me died

Both were tutorial

Both were right next to me

[upper vapor]

what

[slate flume]

Let me clip it

I'll show you

[upper vapor]

so what's happening is
zombie dies, which spawns an explosion

right?

[upper vapor]

aight

[slate flume]

Might be a sec lol

The only one alive is the person who killed me

[upper vapor]

what the flip

okay

idea

0.1f delay