plugins-dev-chat

[icy knoll]

hmm

[true cedar]

and with restrictions

[upper vapor]

more than that

[unique crane]

Yea its very useful

[true cedar]

well yea

[random scaffold]

span for noobs

use IEnumerable

[true cedar]

think arraysegment but it works on a lot more things, not just arrays, and also you can't store it in anything

[upper vapor]

a span represents a contiguous block of memory
works on arrays, strings, lists with CollectionsMarshal
allows the compiler to optimize a lot

with SIMD

[upper vapor]

yeah and have a million heap allocations

smart

[true cedar]

its more that it doesn't incur any gc pressure 🤓

[upper vapor]

that, too

[random scaffold]

why not

[unique crane]

and you can stackalloc array :3

[true cedar]

works for a lot more things too like stackalloc

[upper vapor]

me when static readonly []

[random scaffold]

span made on assembler level?

[upper vapor]

might save a few nanoseconds

[upper vapor]

what

[random scaffold]

is span made at the assembler level, or does it add c# by inheriting something?

[upper vapor]

what is assembler

[true cedar]

its a ref struct

[random scaffold]

language

[true cedar]

so it has language support

compiler?

[upper vapor]

it's in the SDK

[true cedar]

it is treated specially by the lang kinda tho

[upper vapor]

from .NET Standard

[true cedar]

since iirc it has a ByReference<T> or some shit

[icy knoll]

me when you guys obsess over micro-optimisations 😭

[true cedar]

realistically span is not that much of a micro optimization

[unique crane]

No basically

[upper vapor]

better than thousands of string allocations every frame

[true cedar]

its pretty useful

[unique crane]

Yea

[true cedar]

i wont lie and pretend like i dont obsess over micro optimizations but

[unique crane]

but general use is as sub array

[random scaffold]

why not

[unique crane]

where you dont need to do the index math

[random scaffold]

im even using byte, short, ushort

[true cedar]

u do realize

that

the smaller types are just expanded to ints

[upper vapor]

ints are padded

[unique crane]

Dont c# extend values-

yea

[true cedar]

like they're stored as ints

[random scaffold]

...

[upper vapor]

lmaoi

[random scaffold]

.....

..........................

[true cedar]

the only time it matters is when you're doing interop

[random scaffold]

fuck microsoft

[true cedar]

i mean its not really microsoft

[random scaffold]

im always lost the time for thinking which type use

[upper vapor]

or for value range restrictions

[true cedar]

no matter what it'd still have to deal with the word size

which is usually the size of an int

[upper vapor]

still not the most optimized one but it works
-# it runs at startup lol

if only we had

[true cedar]

yeah okay

[upper vapor]

alternate lookups

in unity

[true cedar]

i do wish we had those

i have debated making a new dictionary implementation to support them

[hearty shard]

make them urself

[random scaffold]

how you made multiple hints?

you just put all hints in one line?

[true cedar]

blood sweat and tears

[upper vapor]

yeah like

[hearty shard]

not one line, but one hint yes

[upper vapor]

that's possible

[true cedar]

if only it was that easy

[random scaffold]

You need to suffer, because it's too difficult to support multiple hints in the game itself

[true cedar]

i use math

basically

[random scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002427862026039358/1331616420374642770/togif.gif

[true cedar]

i use line heights to position things correctly

and compute the line height necessary so that a hint is at the same position

[upper vapor]

i made a line-based hint system
two, actually
they're useful but not fully customizable

[random scaffold]

What emotions will you have if, when version 3 is released, nw adds support for multiple hints themselves?

[true cedar]

relief

[upper vapor]

what if i told you you could do that already

kind of

[true cedar]

wdym

[upper vapor]

text toys

parent them to the player

[random scaffold]

But it would be a waste of time

[true cedar]

oh yea

okay thats

[upper vapor]

and send fake sync vars to rotate and text them

[true cedar]

do u thinki enjoy doing this

i WANNA DO RUST

[random scaffold]

then do rust

[hearty shard]

get out

no more rust

[upper vapor]

says the person who wanted TAP modules in SL

[true cedar]

i have already had to make two (2) new collections just for this

[hearty shard]

TAP ?

[random scaffold]

why fake sync?

[random scaffold]

if it have toy.Rotation

[upper vapor]

task-based asynchronous programming

[hearty shard]

what the fuck is SmallRadifxTrie

[upper vapor]

because you gotta customize it per player

[true cedar]

its a radix trie for tags

[random scaffold]

[true cedar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix_tree

[hearty shard]

what the fuck is radix trie

[upper vapor]

now that i think about it

[hearty shard]

oh

[unique crane]

Tree xd

[upper vapor]

separate toy for each player

[upper vapor]

oh shit

i've done that

[true cedar]

radix trie means that i can early return on tags

[unique crane]

Oh wait

prefix tree

I know that

[true cedar]

yea

[upper vapor]

word processing is uh

fun..n't

[true cedar]

they're different from prefix trees technically

prefix tries only store one char at a time

[random scaffold]

but not async

[true cedar]

im proud of my valuesorteddictionary

[unique crane]

I love state machines and such

[random scaffold]

im fuck microsoft lol

[upper vapor]

prefix trie... and prefix tree

[true cedar]

prefix trie

i think prefix trie = prefix tree

but tree =/= trie

[upper vapor]

insanity

[random scaffold]

how i can make invisible door?

[upper vapor]

scale 0

[upper vapor]

oh

[random scaffold]

nw moment

[upper vapor]

david

[unique crane]

axwabo

[upper vapor]

have you tried animator state machines

-# SL has them

[hearty shard]

david i dont like you

[upper vapor]

i tried them

[true cedar]

make ur own state machine

[unique crane]

I have never ever touched animations in unity

[upper vapor]

code state machines are kinda confusing and obtrusive sometimes

like

to handle transitions

and conditions

like ugh

GIVE ME A GRAPH

[true cedar]

block programming

[upper vapor]

i've tried unity visual scripting
not worth it 😭

[upper vapor]

that's not...

exactly

[unique crane]

When you know c#

its useless

[true cedar]

im ean

flowchart programming

i dont actually use unity

like to make games

[upper vapor]

be happy

[true cedar]

im not even a game dev

:3

[upper vapor]

maybe you'd code this

[true cedar]

i would

[upper vapor]

show me

[unique crane]

I dont think its that hard

you just make nodes

graph

condition

active node

[upper vapor]

this makes so much more sense

[unique crane]

and check condition for transitions

[upper vapor]

than looking at spaghetti code

[true cedar]

okay well i dont wanna

[upper vapor]

lol

wanna see the code i had for that?

[true cedar]

im already making this dumb fucking parser

[upper vapor]

shoot i leveled up

[true cedar]

im still level 10

:(

[upper vapor]

you gotta yap more

[true cedar]

@hearty shard teach me ur ways

of yapology

[hearty shard]

get away from me

[random scaffold]

primitives will be hidden by big distance?

[unique crane]

[upper vapor]

public sealed class DisplayUpdater : DisplayUpdaterBase
{

    private float _remainingTime;

    private State _state;

    private void Update()
    {
        switch (Driver.State)
        {
            case (_, ServiceArea):
                UpdateServiceArea();
                break;
            case (DrivingPhase.Stopped, Terminus):
                UpdateTerminus();
                break;
            case (_, Origin):
            case (DrivingPhase.Stopped, _):
                UpdateStopped();
                break;
            case (_, TrafficTarget):
                UpdateMoving();
                break;
        }
    }

    private void UpdateServiceArea()
    {
        if (_state != State.ServiceArea)
            SetText("Üzemi terület");
        _state = State.ServiceArea;
    }

    private void UpdateStopped()
    {
        if (!TryGetJourney(out var journey) || (_remainingTime -= Clock.Delta) > 0)
            return;
        _remainingTime = 5;
        _state = _state == State.Route ? State.Destination : State.Route;
        UpdateDisplay(journey);
    }

    private void UpdateTerminus()
    {
        if ((_remainingTime -= Clock.Delta) > 0)
            return;
        _remainingTime = 5;
        _state = State.Terminus;
        SetText("végállomás");
    }

    private void UpdateMoving()
    {
        if (!TryGetJourney(out var journey) || (_remainingTime -= Clock.Delta) > 0 || Displays.Any(e => !e.ScrollingCompleted))
            return;
        _remainingTime = 8;
        _state = Driver.State switch
        {
            (DrivingPhase.NearTarget or DrivingPhase.Stopping, Terminus) => _state == State.Terminus ? State.StopName : State.Terminus,
            (DrivingPhase.NearTarget or DrivingPhase.Stopping, _) => State.StopName,
            (_, Terminus) when _state == State.StopName => State.Terminus,
            _ => _state switch
            {
                State.Route => State.StopName,
                State.StopName or State.Terminus => State.Connections,
                _ => State.Route
            }
        };
        UpdateDisplay(journey);
    }

    private void UpdateDisplay(ITrafficJourney journey) => SetText(_state switch
    {
        State.Route => $"{journey.LineName}        {Clock.Now:HH:mm}",
        State.Destination => $"►{journey.Destination}",
        State.StopName when TryGetStop(out var stop) => stop.Name(),
        State.Terminus => "végállomás",
        State.Connections when TryGetStop(out var stop) => stop.Connections(),
        State.ServiceArea => "Üzemi terület",
        _ => throw new InvalidOperationException()
    }, _state == State.Connections || _state == State.StopName && !Driver.IsCloseToStation());

    private enum State
    {

        Route,
        Destination,
        StopName,
        Terminus,
        Connections,
        ServiceArea

    }

}

[random scaffold]

@unique crane

[upper vapor]

a switch statement which goes to a switch expression that might have a switch expression

[upper vapor]

no

[random scaffold]

bruh

[upper vapor]

kinda

[unique crane]

You have to do it yourself

[random scaffold]

nw moment

[upper vapor]

#1373753725897937048

[random scaffold]

why its exists if its even not in the render distance

[random scaffold]

im dont love dependencies

https://tenor.com/view/noko-kanoko-anime-my-deer-friend-nokotan-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-gif-1127032685120984755

but im lazy

so i will be

lol

exists easy way connect player with primitives?

if im moving primitive, player too

but player can override it

and moving too

[upper vapor]

no easy way

[random scaffold]

unity moment

then how

it do

[upper vapor]

override position

but that's bad for player experience

cuz they won't really be able to move

[random scaffold]

but how do to they can?

[upper vapor]

you don't

[random scaffold]

no

its possible

or not

just add offset of the primitive to the player position

per frame

[upper vapor]

that kinda works

but you still get flickering

[random scaffold]

why

per frame it must be normal

[upper vapor]

cuz you override the position on the server

the client is moving

but by the time the position is applied, the player's already moved

[random scaffold]

but it works normal in other unity games

[upper vapor]

other unity games 😭

[hearty shard]

"other unity games"

do all unity games use mirror

and are all unity games identical

😭

[upper vapor]

are all unity games SL

[random scaffold]

multiplayer game

yes

[upper vapor]

me when

[hearty shard]

no?

[upper vapor]

netcode for gameobjects

[hearty shard]

Town of Salem is multiplayer

does not use Mirror

[random scaffold]

..................

fucking mirror

[hearty shard]

anyway

[upper vapor]

it's not mirror's fault

[hearty shard]

yeah its

well

[upper vapor]

SL just doesn't have a system to parent players

[hearty shard]

SL has an effect

that prevents movement

from client

i mean

[random scaffold]

i wanna just make bullying/jail system

[hearty shard]

falling will still be a thing

[random scaffold]

bruh

[hearty shard]

then put them in bars

[random scaffold]

i wanna movable cameras

[hearty shard]

and make it so they cant go anywhere from it 😭

nuh uh

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

notice the flickering?

i'm not even moving

TPS != client FPS

[random scaffold]

only the car

[upper vapor]

yes

that's the point

you won't get smooth movement with the platform

let alone moving on the platform

petition for NW to add a relativeprimitive toy

or something like that

[hearty shard]

@daivd

shit

i cant spell

[upper vapor]

xd

[hearty shard]

@unique crane

[unique crane]

skill issue

[hearty shard]

david

i hate you

im gonna reinvent bad things

[unique crane]

I hate you too

[hearty shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969040338704560186/1079053000628256849/togif.gif

[upper vapor]

i've done that

:3

[hearty shard]

im davids bestie

[upper vapor]

well uh

[hearty shard]

i havent because candy utils and custom escapes dont require dependencies

and

secretapi IS the dependency

[upper vapor]

i actually did not know that

[unique crane]

me neither

[upper vapor]

i freaking knew it lmao

[true cedar]

i kinda wanna make a giant util thing but also

[hearty shard]

I hate u

[true cedar]

i don't wanna make people install it

[upper vapor]

tug of war

[random scaffold]

why even animations doesnt smooth

........

[upper vapor]

"shit ton of actually useful stuff"
vs
"ugh people need to install"

[true cedar]

rue package manager someday

[upper vapor]

toy.MovementSmoothing = 30

[upper vapor]

RueGet

[ionic prawn]

can someone help me figure out why i cant escape

public static void ProccessRoleEscape(
PlayerEscapingEventArgs ev,
RoleTypeId TargetRole,
RoleTypeId EscapedRole,
bool Disarmed)
{
    ev.EscapeScenario = Escape.EscapeScenarioType.Custom;

    if (ev.Player.IsDisarmed == Disarmed)
    {
        ev.IsAllowed = false;
        ev.NewRole = EscapedRole;
    }  else {
        ev.IsAllowed = false;
        ev.NewRole = EscapedRole;
    }
}


public override void OnPlayerEscaping(PlayerEscapingEventArgs ev)
{
    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.FacilityGuard, RoleTypeId.NtfSergeant, false);
    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.FacilityGuard, RoleTypeId.ChaosConscript, true);

    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.ChaosConscript, RoleTypeId.NtfPrivate, true);
    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.ChaosMarauder, RoleTypeId.NtfPrivate, true);
    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.ChaosRepressor, RoleTypeId.NtfCaptain, true);
    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.ChaosRifleman, RoleTypeId.NtfPrivate, true);

    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.NtfPrivate, RoleTypeId.ChaosConscript, true);
    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.NtfSpecialist, RoleTypeId.ChaosConscript, true);
    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.NtfSergeant, RoleTypeId.ChaosConscript, true);
    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.NtfCaptain, RoleTypeId.ChaosRepressor, true);

    PluginFunctions.ProccessRoleEscape(ev, RoleTypeId.Tutorial, RoleTypeId.ClassD, true);
}

[random scaffold]

delete exiled

[ionic prawn]

im not using exiled

[random scaffold]

then skill issue

[upper vapor]

i would love to replace this with a huge switch statement with pattern matching :3

[random scaffold]

you need subscribe events

[upper vapor]

you're canceling the event

[true cedar]

wanna know a fun fact

pattern matching switch statements are not faster than a bunch of if statements

[upper vapor]

i know

but they look cleaner

[grand flower]

I'm patching it myself atm but any chance of making the bring/goto commands reset the player's fall damage immunity

[true cedar]

okay good

[grand flower]

just for QoL

[upper vapor]

well

for type matching, they can be

[true cedar]

wdym

[grand flower]

if you bring a player to your position their fall damage isn't reset

so if they were falling, they'll die the second you teleport them

[unique crane]

Should have not fall /shrug

[true cedar]

r u sure

im pretty sure its still just compiled to a bunch of if statements

[upper vapor]

if you write the if well enough, no

but it compiles to the most optimal

[grand flower]

most of the time you don't use them for performance anyway

they're just hella clean

[unique crane]

Depends on the decompiler

ive seen Visual studio decompile switch as one giant if else

[upper vapor]

switches have their own opcodes

so if the decompiler is stupid

[unique crane]

and dotpeek normally

[upper vapor]

vs decompiler

then yes you'll get if-else statements

[random scaffold]

rm rf /f

[upper vapor]

nvm i take it back

[royal mica]

rm: cannot remove 'rf': No such file or directory

[upper vapor]

for type matching there's just ifs

[upper vapor]

kekw

[true cedar]

switch statements are only compiled to switch if all the values are consecutive and start at 0

[royal mica]

so for dev QOL just use pattern matching

[royal mica]

and also this just makes escapee Tutorial or ClassD

wait

[ionic prawn]

i know its supposed to be funny for like moderators if they get cuffed and they get forced to escape

[upper vapor]

no...

[ionic prawn]

like that

[upper vapor]

there are clever optimizations

[royal mica]

That event just straight up prevents escaping

you are IsAllowed = false on both cases

[ionic prawn]

no it dosent?

[royal mica]

that whole code is wrong

yes it does

[ionic prawn]

public static void ProccessRoleEscape(
PlayerEscapingEventArgs ev,
RoleTypeId TargetRole,
RoleTypeId EscapedRole,
bool Disarmed)
{
if (ev.Player.Role != TargetRole) { return; }

    if (ev.Player.IsDisarmed == Disarmed)
    {
        ev.IsAllowed = false;
        ev.NewRole = EscapedRole;

    }  else {
        ev.IsAllowed = false;
        ev.NewRole = EscapedRole;
    }
}

[royal mica]

yes exactly. Your both branch is ev.IsAllowed = false

[upper vapor]

ev.IsAllowed = false prevents the escape entirely
no role change will be performed

[royal mica]

that prevent escpaing from running

[true cedar]

i mean it might make the ifs more efficient but the switch opcode is just a computed goto

[ionic prawn]

ohh

[royal mica]

and also both of your branched does the same thing

you are not using the TargetRole

[ionic prawn]

i feel dumb

[royal mica]

The code in the Event function is executing one by one, meaning the last execution is used

[ionic prawn]

i started like 3 weeks ago and like its for me like isallowed false and then there is an isallowed true 😭

[upper vapor]

yeah
i've seen some bit shift and uint conversion to optimize

it's weird but smart

[royal mica]

and also after some branches, switch is compiled to a jump table anyway

[unique crane]

@ionic prawn You can handle the escaping like this

easiest solution

[royal mica]

just use switch how you like and the compiler will handle it tbh

if switch becomes if-else, why bother with if else, when switch looks better (personally) and easier to remove / add branches

[true cedar]

no way the compiler is smart enough to do that for u

[ionic prawn]

oh... but i really want to choose like what becomes what

[true cedar]

i refuse to believe

[upper vapor]

yes

[unique crane]

Well in that case do switch

and per role

[ionic prawn]

i already made up my mind with the function

[true cedar]

fascinating

[upper vapor]

https://dev.to/davidkroell/switch-is-faster-than-if-in-c-4422

look at this insanity

[true cedar]

ah ic

[upper vapor]

intercity

[true cedar]

what is this

[upper vapor]

there's a link to this in the article

lowering

[true cedar]

In fact, the switch statement does not exist in C#. There is a step in the compilation of C#, which rewrites switch statements to if-statements. This step is called lowering. It translates high-level language features to low-level language features.

that first line is just not true grrr

[upper vapor]

the switch statement does not exist in C#

who wrote that

[upper vapor]

btw you're not doing anything with targetrole yet

[true cedar]

fuck my life

[icy knoll]

who tf is spreading such lies 😭

[true cedar]

i think they meant that the switch statement was syntatic sugar

which is true sometimes but sometimes its not

[icy knoll]

me when there is 2 switch statements

[upper vapor]

ye

[upper vapor]

uh no

there's a switch statement and a switch expression

[icy knoll]

thing switch { }

switch(thing) {}

[upper vapor]

that's the latter one

[icy knoll]

same thing different font

[upper vapor]

not the same thing

[icy knoll]

to me they are ax!!

[upper vapor]

switch expressions need to find a common type for all casess

and they can't be void

[upper vapor]

which one looks better

[true cedar]

1

[upper vapor]

i agree but that 1 disarmed false condition bugs me

[true cedar]

looks fine

i prefer it to the other option

[upper vapor]

if (disarmed && role == guard)
{
newrole = chaos
return
}
// rest of switch

i guess

[true cedar]

yea i was thinking that too

if u want it more optimized thats prob it but

[grand flower]

Escapes are a one off, you shouldn't care about microoptimizing that

[upper vapor]

it's more about which code looks better

[grand flower]

first one

[true cedar]

think about this if you save 5ns 50,000 times every frame thats 0.25 milliseconds

clearly worth it

[upper vapor]

Cyn...

you're the optimize guy

how dare you say this

[true cedar]

(/s)

[grand flower]

I optimize stuff that gets us measurable increases in TPS

[unique crane]

Me when I save 1ns of escape code

(its run like 7 times per game)

7ns saved

yipeeee

[upper vapor]

extending the CPU's lifespan

[true cedar]

by making code more efficient

ur helping to reduce energy usage

and thus saving the environment

[upper vapor]

[true cedar]

thats why this 3ns improvement is worth an extra 30 lines of code

[grand flower]

I paid for 16 cores i'm using 16 cores

[upper vapor]

but think of the environment!

[plain gazelle]

What is the intended way of deleting an AdminToy?

[upper vapor]

toy.Destroy

for the wrapper

which calls NetworkServer.Destroy

[true cedar]

i have terrible news for u

[random scaffold]

how i can safety destroy gameobject of the door?

so that this is handled correctly and removed from the Door.List

just Destroy()?

[plain gazelle]

Ah, i was using AdminToys.TextToy

Thanks

[upper vapor]

np

[upper vapor]

maybe?

be sure to check though

iirc the waypoint is removed with it but i'm not entirely sure

[true cedar]

scp doesn

't

support burst does it

[hearty shard]

What

[true cedar]

burst compiler

[grand flower]

don't think so

not the way it's built at least

[hearty shard]

[grand flower]

It's fine I'll just make my own SL with blackjack and no relative positioning

and 100 player support

[sinful bronze]

U can make it in sl

[true cedar]

can u also add women

wow sexism

[sinful bronze]

Im very sexist

!!!

[grand flower]

yeah if you enjoy playing at 5 FPS

server can handle it, I've gotten them to run with 100 players @ 30 TPS

but it's not the ideal experience for the players

maps aren't built for it

and the clientside performance is abysmal

[sinful bronze]

But server can have more than 100 players

But player's pc will explode

[grand flower]

yeah so what's the point hah

If I were to embark on my own SCP project I'd target 64 players per server w/ "support" for 100

[sinful bronze]

When multiplayer code rework

[unique crane]

Ah yes lets rewrite whole game

great idea buddy

Next update in: never

[grand flower]

Hire me and I'll do it out of pure annoyance with some of it

for free

[sinful bronze]

Yeah

Rewrite game NOW

[plain gazelle]

i just wish audio bug >45 players would be fixed

[grand flower]

fix: never

[sinful bronze]

I think game will without updates about 2 years on this way

[grand flower]

At that point might as well start from scratch

[true cedar]

just start dropping messages

[sinful bronze]

But it will ever happen

[true cedar]

if too many voicemessages are sent in one frame

get rid of some of them

[sinful bronze]

One player before 13.5 can crash voice chat

[true cedar]

i made brights fix for that B)

[sinful bronze]

I think still exist some exploits for this

[true cedar]

it just plays a really really really really loud sound

[hearty shard]

good now fixed this :)

[grand flower]

i have bad news

unless

that wasn't in 14.0

not sure

had to like, scrap a handful of patches because 14.0/14.1 broke em

[true cedar]

its fixed base game anyways

[grand flower]

fair

probably why it broke

[plain gazelle]

wha? :o
Our server still has audio issues with >45 players

[true cedar]

i think we removed it anyways

[grand flower]

GameOptimizer? yeah it was gone but I rewrote some of the stuff in it and got it back in 14.1

added the fpc relative positioning caching and round robin to it too

i just wish relative positioning wasn't a thing

[sinful bronze]

NW will legalize mods when they will to lazy to update sl ac

[true cedar]

didnt round robin break

[sinful bronze]

And servers will write own anticheats!!!

[grand flower]

nop

everything's fine with it

bit of jitter on very high speed players/scp-173 but nothing game breaking

very high speed as in > 150% movement speed

[sinful bronze]

Guys i have an idea how to rework all game code

[true cedar]

can u just grant an exception for 173 for it

[plain gazelle]

I have this SendFakeSyncVar method, sent/written(?) by @restive turret but i only learnt how to use it for PrimitiveObjects
And now i want to ask anyone here, or the legend himself if he sees this, how i could use this for other Toys like the TextToy, to change what it says for individual players
(Or solve it a different way: How could i make a TextToy only visible for certain players?)

[grand flower]

It doesn't affect SCP-173, only how other players see it

[true cedar]

ik but like

[grand flower]

so there's no way to grant an exception unless I add like

a second loop

[true cedar]

can u make 173 always send its position

[grand flower]

I could but it's 173

the second you look at it, it stops moving

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

do it

[grand flower]

so the jitter is really only visible for SCP teammates and spectators, and it's nothing too bad

[true cedar]

oh

fix NOW.

[hearty shard]

see pai gets it

[grand flower]

I also made it not send positions to custom dummies

could make it not send positions to actual dummies but we never use those outside of testing so w/e

[restive turret]

I updated the thing basicly replace this to the one below

uh for only visible into individual player

that is something like DestroyMessage into player

[true cedar]

u wanna hear a pro tip to make this a lot faster

use a WriterExtension<T> static class

[restive turret]

just make sure you dont send any info about that net entity to the player

[restive turret]

not exiled

[true cedar]

and store the function in there

no make ur own class

[restive turret]

easeier
https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions/blob/main/Extensions/MirrorWriterExtension.cs

[plain gazelle]

Thank you, but i don't think im following...
-# i am not very smart .w.

[true cedar]

   public static Action<NetworkWriter, T> Action { get; internal set; }
}

[plain gazelle]

Sadly never heard of WriterExtensions before, so not sure what i could do with them :x

[true cedar]

this code is awful

im sorry that was mean and uncalled for

but u can make it a lot more efficient

[restive turret]

@plain gazelle u can make I think is FakeSync the Scale to be Vector.zero

This will make receiving player not see the object

[plain gazelle]

[restive turret]

And do what with it?

[plain gazelle]

@restive turret taught me how to use the FakeSync on PrimitiveObjects and there i had to go and find the uLong, which were in the PrimitiveObject class for the variables that i wanted to change.
But for Scale, i can't find any uLong value, so i am not sure what to do...

[restive turret]

Oh sorry I have an input of Object not as a T or any type

[true cedar]

add a type param :3

[restive turret]

So Typeof T will not like work

Still doesn't know wtf do i do with the ext

And dont wanna grab all existing ones

[true cedar]

i mean

[restive turret]

4uL

Scale is 4uL

But u have to fix the SendSyncVar.
By just replacing the WriteULong(0) => WriteULong(dirtyBit)
Inside the IsSubClassOf

[plain gazelle]

Like that?

[restive turret]

Ye

[plain gazelle]

Will it still work for the PrimitiveObject stuff? Since it worked before

[restive turret]

Ye

It will work because I mistakenly set to 0 so even if you send a Base AdminToy SyncVar it will doesn't do anything with it

Btw the 4uL was inside the AdminToyBase class

[plain gazelle]

Ohhh

ah....

Thank you

Thank you so so much x.x

[restive turret]

Also you have to just used
textToy (or textToy.Base if that exists) instead of with .Scale

[plain gazelle]

yeah i had to use textToy.Base ^^

[restive turret]

Neato

@true cedar ah btw ye you right with that class only , i can simply just use writer.Write<T>(syncVar) but in other place I dont have type T or any type like that

[ionic prawn]

when bug fix when you respawn when you die, you just become blind (:

[hearty shard]

thats already potentionally being fixed

[ionic prawn]

yippe 😄

does anyonoe knows what causes it evne

even

like what makes the screen black

[hearty shard]

null moment

or smth

this

[ionic prawn]

someone will make a plugin to fix it before NW fixes it

[unique crane]

This is client side issue

[ionic prawn]

bruhhh

[hearty shard]

me when the visual bug is client side

[ionic prawn]

easy dr brights suicide vest

killed puppet

[grand flower]

i think you're on the wrong server

[random scaffold]

eve moment

[ionic prawn]

nuh uh

legendary item be like

i just found it on the floor 💀

[grand flower]

That's generally where those items spawn yeah

[ionic prawn]

just saw a yellow light with heavy armor in heavy

[ionic prawn]

can you upgrade anti cola

is it very fine?

[random scaffold]

@sinful bronze scp-127 obscenely expressed

[icy knoll]

in IL, can I use ldloc.1 here to get the output of the code below or do i have to get it from the code below?

[random scaffold]

evve moment

WAI

it works

[random scaffold]

ldlock.1 it arguments

which will be used in method

after callvirt just add stloc.0

to save value

powered chatgpt

how i can get desync animation for each object?

one animator

but separately objects with desync animation

why did the Northwoods steal the stars from 90 angle?

[grand flower]

dummies can't have custom info?

seems like the issue was a color tag in the custom info

would be nice to get a warning in the console if the game decides to block it for whatever reason

[upper vapor]

give back vector3s with player parenting 🗣️🗣️

[upper vapor]

what

you gotta load the local onto the stack again if you wanna do something with it while keeping the original call

or use dup

ldloc.1 // original
dup
call MyPatch.Print(whatever type)
callvirt // original

[teal junco]

how expensive would it be to initialize a BinaryReader & MemoryStream?

[upper vapor]

not that significant

are you reading a custom binary file?

[teal junco]

yes

well what i want to do

[upper vapor]

if you don't do it every frame then you'll most likely be fine lol

[teal junco]

is to write/read a shit ton of custom binary formats

[teal junco]

what if i do like, just for instance, like six thousand?

[upper vapor]

[teal junco]

for reading

[upper vapor]

but you don't create a new memorystream every frame, right?

[teal junco]

no

[upper vapor]

that's fine

[teal junco]

hmmmm sorry my brain is working at half capacity right now

i think i have an efficient solution but i cannot articulate it to you

I think if i just directly take a BinaryReader then this will be fine?

if I have a FileStream and make a BinaryReader for it, and put in the BinaryReader as an argument, then it skips initialization entirely...

[upper vapor]

oh if you already have the byte array (not recreated every frame) then it's okay to read from that

creating new memory streams or arrays every frame is not fun

[teal junco]

but wait this should be fine right

[upper vapor]

also, couldn't you just

store the position snapshots

and write them every n seconds

[upper vapor]

seems okay

[teal junco]

Yeah that was my plan

if youre talking about writing them

[upper vapor]

can you show more context?

[upper vapor]

yes

[teal junco]

I would store a backlog of snapshots into memory and then write it to a file and clear the memory stream every few seconds

[grand flower]

If you're going to have a buffer that you'll re-use, use a circular buffer

[teal junco]

I want to have a system that records data like Position, PlayerId, etc every frame, and eventually writes it to a file, and another system that reads that file and gets useful information from it like the Pos, PlayerId

[teal junco]

Wdym

[grand flower]

misread

[upper vapor]

a buffer that wraps around when reaching the end

[grand flower]

ignore me

[teal junco]

Oh alright

[upper vapor]

although in this case it's not applicable

cuz you don't know the buffer size and you don't want to overwrite existing data

[teal junco]

Yeah

[upper vapor]

so after you write the memorystream to a file, do you clear the memory stream?

[teal junco]

Yeah, I forgot which method does that but I'm pretty sure there is one

I just need to have an efficient serializer so that it can run many times every frame

[upper vapor]

okay just make sure you only copy the amount of bytes actually in the stream
memorystream.Length

[restive turret]

Dispose

Flush

Close

[upper vapor]

again, you can use symlinks

mklink

although it would be nice to have that

[unique crane]

I though we had global configs

[restive turret]

Ye

Just most devs not using it

[upper vapor]

those are only accessible through code

ln -s /home/james james

[unique crane]

Huh?

[upper vapor]

getconfig global

but you can't configure the file, right?

[unique crane]

You can't?

Okay I'll try this out when I get out of bed

[upper vapor]

no option for configs

[restive turret]

.50 maybe

[unique crane]

Sure

[upper vapor]

50 HUFs

[unique crane]

I am more bribeable by food

[upper vapor]

do you want sajtos-tejfölös lángos?

[restive turret]

Well SCPDiscord has a folder inside configs/global

[unique crane]

What's that

[restive turret]

Google it

[upper vapor]

traditional hungarian cuisine

[unique crane]

Ohhh langos

[upper vapor]

yes

fried bread 😭

[unique crane]

@upper vapor

[restive turret]

Fry me

[restive turret]

Nice

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

Now what

[unique crane]

Well thats in the labapi now...

[restive turret]

I dont get it

[unique crane]

You just have to do this

@full wedge

[upper vapor]

bruh

that's

i know that

they want the configs to be global for all plugins

[restive turret]

LoadConfig of other config that is checks if its a global plugin

Funny

Well not all plugins made like that in mind

[unique crane]

It is kind of a flaw yea

that only plugin dev can specify

it

[restive turret]

Also there is no such a thing in the plugin's config as "useGlobal" in this plugin

[upper vapor]

just use symlinks bruh 😭
ln -s /path/to/file /path/to/symlink

[unique crane]

Thats one way yea

[upper vapor]

until we get official supoprt

[restive turret]

Shes symming on my link

[upper vapor]

ew

[restive turret]

2042.39.73

[unique crane]

is that unity version or what

[restive turret]

That's when

David

[unique crane]

Hmmmmmm if I add a list to LabApi-yourserverport.yaml

[restive turret]

Is beryl okay?

[unique crane]

for server hosts to set which plugin to load with global config

that could work?

[unique crane]

?

[restive turret]

Mayhaps

[upper vapor]

how about just a bool

for port or global

[restive turret]

Where

[upper vapor]

you wouldn't load two of the config, would you?

[restive turret]

In my

[unique crane]

oh wait

properties

[restive turret]

Wha

Oh the is_enabled one

[unique crane]

Yea

add like

force_use_global_config

[upper vapor]

but you'd need to set that for each plugin

[unique crane]

Yes

but only once

[upper vapor]

uh

[unique crane]

Like

you just load the plugin, set that property to true

and you can use the global config

Instead of the local one

[upper vapor]

i guess yea

it would require like a 2-line change

3

[icy knoll]

true

we havent had an update to the repo in ages

[unique crane]

No.. its just that Jesus is new labapi team lead

[icy knoll]

oh that's confirmed?

[upper vapor]

then... is jesus okay

[unique crane]

He has the role yea..

[upper vapor]

[icy knoll]

me when the job listing is still open

[unique crane]

Well

[icy knoll]

beryl usually did it

and they arent labapi team

[unique crane]

Yea

team lead for labapi prs

Beryl for base game ones

[upper vapor]

what

[icy knoll]

what

[unique crane]

I cannot confirm anything

or promise

I can just do it and ping with the PR

[restive turret]

No?

Or u mean internally?

[unique crane]

Yes

Ofc you can do that

Labapi is open source and you can just switch the dll in the server files with your own

Works fine

Yea

modded flag is added whenever any plugin is loaded

[restive turret]

Ah well

[upper vapor]

[unique crane]

😐

[restive turret]

No more LabApi

Gone

Forever

[unique crane]

Too bad

go back to nwapi

[restive turret]

Going back to synapse

[unique crane]

I was also thinking about editing wiki

like

yea..

[upper vapor]

me when CustomEventHandlers in the wiki

[restive turret]

Me when

I just type LabApi. And balling with the search

[icy knoll]

does anyone know how to get a property from a method im patching?

[unique crane]

Like a parameter?

[icy knoll]

yeah sorry

parameter

[unique crane]

ref type name

in the patch method

[icy knoll]

forgot to mention transpiler

oops

[unique crane]

@upper vapor

[icy knoll]

cant do that in a transpiler can i? or can i 😭

[unique crane]

Ofc you can?

its like ldargs or something

[icy knoll]

yeah i just cant see anything in IL for it idk

[unique crane]

Idk I dont use transpliers much

Ax will know

[icy knoll]

im just replacing 1 line of code with smth different lol

and it's getting more complicated now

[unique crane]

I would go to the base game code

copy it

[upper vapor]

Wha

[unique crane]

change my thing

make prefix patch

[upper vapor]

Ldarg.0 (this)

Call

[unique crane]

@icy knoll

[upper vapor]

The method can be accessed with AccessTools.PropertyGetter

[icy knoll]

wdym "call" now?

[upper vapor]

The property getter

[icy knoll]

yeah but what property am i getting

[restive turret]

The property you want

Like

food { get; set; }

[icy knoll]

i dont want a property rn lol

[restive turret]

Internally you do is virtcall get_food()

[icy knoll]

i just want the argument

[restive turret]

Tell more indepth

Cus no idea what u want nor talking about

[icy knoll]

ok

ill explain it

eve made a silly mistake and she told me what to do

I need to replace this:

ServerSpecificSettingsSync.SendToPlayer(player.ReferenceHub, specificSettingBaseList.ToArray(), version);

with this

player.Connection.Send(new SSSEntriesPack(specificSettingBaseList.ToArray(), version))

which is why I am using a transpiler

[upper vapor]

Then just load the argument

[restive turret]

.. yeah

[upper vapor]

Create a method in your patch class that does the heavy lifting and call that with the arg

[icy knoll]

true

[restive turret]

But ye axwabo was right

Its ldarg (index)

ldarg 2 is the 3rd arg

Or 2nd

Whateve

0 being this usually

[icy knoll]

wait turns out that i didnt actually need to do this patch

lol

[restive turret]

Cus u have the source

[icy knoll]

no

just that the patch is useless

this is the patch to fix the issue:

[hearty shard]

the exact thing i just pushed (to a branch that you wont see for 20 years)

[icy knoll]

EVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/Misfiy/SecretAPI/pull/59

its wip

it also will include breaking changes so id like to not push it yet

[restive turret]

Wnever iwillbe preleased

[hearty shard]

1.1.2 is what we got to before i decided to finally do SSSS how i wanted

[restive turret]

Lel

[hearty shard]

LINQ my beloved

i forgot to put red on the first foreach

still

😭

[unique crane]

GroupBy(static setting => setting.Header)

Less alloc :3

Saved you few bytes no need to thank

[hearty shard]

i want to stab you

but yeah

i might have to do that more often

[unique crane]

And you could perhaps

Use pooled list

[hearty shard]

oh yeah

[unique crane]

for the ordered

[hearty shard]

i deleted that

at some point

i dont remember why

[restive turret]

What if want more bytes

[unique crane]

Create a gigabyte int array

[restive turret]

Nah

Allocate all ram

Into a big array

An ulong array

[hearty shard]

the other was dev

this is the new one

ill make the first list listpool too dw

i could also replace hasAccess with an if statement inside the first foreach

@unique crane do you agree

!!!!

[unique crane]

Same for select

static setting => ...

[hearty shard]

mightve missed it

[icy knoll]

is this how string builder pools work?

StringBuilder builder = StringBuilderPool.Shared.Rent()

...

return StringBuilderPool.Shared.ToStringReturn(builder);```

[unique crane]

Yep

[icy knoll]

and i get more performance from this? crazy

[unique crane]

No you get less allocation when working with strings

[hearty shard]

is nicer to work with strings with it

[icy knoll]

no like

i was using StringBuilder before

just moved to pools

so idk what it does but people say it's better so

[hearty shard]

a pool just stores existing of an object

to be reused

so you dont new() it

every tick or wtv

[restive turret]

Pool?

Like

Swimpool

[hearty shard]

@icy knoll show what you did

for the uh

teleport thing

safe position

whatever

[icy knoll]

i never got round to testing it

[hearty shard]

i was gonna

use basegame

public static Vector3 GetSafePosition(
    Vector3 position,
    Vector3 direction,
    float range,
    CharacterController charController)
  {
    direction = Quaternion.Euler(0.0f, UnityEngine.Random.Range(-30f, 30f), 0.0f) * direction;
    float radius = charController.radius;
    float num = Mathf.Lerp(radius, range, UnityEngine.Random.value);
    Vector3 vector3 = Vector3.up * charController.height / 2f;
    Vector3 origin = position + charController.center + SafeLocationFinder.GroundOffset + Vector3.up * radius;
    RaycastHit hitInfo;
    return !Physics.SphereCast(origin, radius, direction, out hitInfo, num + radius, (int) FpcStateProcessor.Mask) ? origin + direction * num + vector3 : hitInfo.point + hitInfo.normal * radius + vector3;
  }

but i need charController

i guess this?

[upper vapor]

you want this for a player, right?

[hearty shard]

well i guess so yeah

[upper vapor]

check if they have an ifpcrole and get the fpmm, which should contain the cc

[icy knoll]

reminder to check if the best position for the player is safe too

check it first ofc

[restive turret]

But please don't fucking put them in the elevator

Larry sent me into pocket in elevator and when I'm escaped it put me into the same elevator with 106 inside too

[hearty shard]

public static bool GetSafeTeleportPoint(this Player player, FacilityZone zone, float range, out Vector3 teleportPoint)
        {
            if (player.RoleBase is not IFpcRole fpcRole)
            {
                teleportPoint = Vector3.zero;
                return false;
            }

            Pose[] poses = Scp106PocketExitFinder.GetPosesForZone(zone);
            if (poses.IsEmpty())
            {
                teleportPoint = Vector3.zero;
                return false;
            }

            Pose pose = Scp106PocketExitFinder.GetRandomPose(poses);
            Vector3 position = SafeLocationFinder.GetSafePosition(pose.position, pose.rotation.eulerAngles, range, fpcRole.FpcModule.CharController);
            teleportPoint = position;
            return true;
        }

i wish i understood the math

[restive turret]

Please check is 106 not inside that pose

Or room

Or whatever

[hearty shard]

why 106

shouldnt i check for any

player?

well

[restive turret]

Ye

[hearty shard]

"enemy" player

[restive turret]

Do it

[hearty shard]

💔

why would you do this to me

[restive turret]

You did this to yourself

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

what if i just

dont

sounds like a YOU problem

i also realize

this should fail if nuke has gone off

and its not surface

or decontam for lcz

or should they?

[restive turret]

Idk

Skill issue on your part

@hearty shard you should make it 2/8 change that you go back to pocket

[hearty shard]

?????

why would I do that

thats for plugin

im making extensions

to find a safe place to teleport

😭

not replacing 106