so like, cause the soft disconnect, restart the game, try to get it again?
#plugins-dev-chat
grand flower
worthy rune
yeah
worthy rune
weird
grand flower
annnnnnd
it doesn't happen on vanilla
so i'm gonna have a nice drink before I lose my sanity
figuring out what the hell could cause that
worthy rune
its pretty unlikely especially if it doesnt cause problems for vanilla, a labapi maintainer may look at it tho if they think its worth their time
grand flower
UserCode_TargetRefreshItems__ItemIdentifier gonna have to figure out like
everything that sends this RPC
worthy rune
iirc thats only called when you set sendItemsNextFrame to true
grand flower
so we have something somewhere that adds an invalid item to the inventory?
worthy rune
it only sends itemId and Serial, so i dont think its that
grand flower
ApplyAttachmentsCode
invalid attachments code?
worthy rune
its been awhile but invalid attachment codes should work
the model is just messed up
grand flower
it's complaining about an attachment being like, null
during SetActive
Does equipping a gun do anything special to attachments
since that somehow fixes it
worthy rune
i dont think group is null, its somehow the gameobject that gets returned from array thats null/destroyed
it probably does
grand flower
yeah that's what I meant, Group contains a null gameobject
worthy rune
odd since i think unity is the one handling the creation in this case
grand flower
that's gonna be a fun one
grand flower
@worthy rune Nevermind it is vanilla!
Just that our modded server made me SCP-079 on spawn, and not the vanilla server
If I make myself SCP-079, and then into a guard, the bug occurs with the gun
going to narrow it down further
see if it's only 079 that does it
worthy rune
bruh xD
grand flower
939 doesn't do it
this is like
extremely hard to repro when you don't know it
and since equipping the gun prevents the issue
i'm guessing it's why nobody reported it
I didn't start as 079 on our server but I did spectate 079
so im wondering if that also triggers it
...
it does
merely spectating 079 allows the bug to trigger
@worthy rune
worthy rune
weird didnt expect 079 to be the cause
worthy rune
maybe something todo with role pooling, its really confusing now
grand flower
I'll tidy up the repro steps and submit a bug report
this is spooky, and like, while the set of circumstances are pretty insane to get it, it's not that hard to get a match with an 079 and accidentally drop your gun when you respawn
worthy rune
yeah
worthy rune
you can do both
grand flower
can also confirm the default attachments on a gun still trigger the bug
one last thing to test
spectating 079, but then spectating another player (human) before spawning
yeah that fixes it
So your last actual role, or observed role, must be SCP-079
although now I have another question
is it just non-fpc roles
if I make myself a spectator, and then a human class, does it happen
nope, it really is just 079
what do I even call this bug
worthy rune
kick after picking up item that was dropped before being equiped by a person that was spectating or was the scp079 role 
grand flower
"SCP-079 is a cognitohazard that soft disconnects players who dare drop a gun without equipping it, after watching it, and then pick it up again"
grand flower
for fucks sake
im calm im calm
you're lucky the bug's an annoyance
ah
i had parts of it in the clipboard
lucky me
the big chunk
upper vapor
phew
worthy rune
nah i had that happen to me too, i ended up writing a few paragraphs and didnt save anything
ended up just giving up lol
grand flower
it didn't save the repro steps though, rip
still fails to create the bug report
amazing
static osprey
still fails to create the bug report
try again in like 30m
grand flower
will do
static osprey
if it still happens i wake up innn 4hours then ill take a look
icy wraith
Can someone tell why the text doesn't move ???
_textToy = LabApi.Features.Wrappers.TextToy.Create().Base;
_textToy.Position = _currentTarget.Position;
you need to set the position on the transform
just use the wrapper
also you're setting a field and not the syncvar's property
use NetworkBlahBlah every time you do something with syncvars
worthy rune
yeah if you can do this instead it would work
_textToy = LabApi.Features.Wrappers.TextToy.Create();
_textToy.Position = _currentTarget.Position;
btw, is the current target something with a network identity? (player or other primitive)
hearty shard
_currentTarget feels like a Player 
upper vapor
also
icy wraith
use `NetworkBlahBlah` every time you do something with syncvars
I also tried that, but no success. I'll check again.
upper vapor
_textToy = TextToy.Create(_currentTarget.Position)
upper vapor
is it just .Create()
yeah you can do that
icy wraith
is it just .Create()
It is.
worthy rune
nah
icy wraith
`_textToy = TextToy.Create(_currentTarget.Position)`
I need it to move it constantly.
upper vapor
hearty shard
oh
upper vapor
I need it to move it constantly.
just parent it to the player
upper vapor
TextToy.Create(player.Transform)
worthy rune
im responding to #plugins-dev-chat message
hearty shard
What do you mean 'nah' ?
"i thought params were required"
"nah"
icy wraith
just parent it to the player
OK my bad for not making my intentions clear enough :
I need to update the rotation to always face a player different from _currentTarget.
That's why I can't just parent it.
upper vapor
oh okay
icy wraith
Also, I tried NetworkPosition again and it still doesn't work.
upper vapor
you need to set the position on the transform
.
icy wraith
I'll try the wrapper though.
upper vapor
the wrapper does this
icy wraith
I see.
But then why doesn't this work :
_textToy.transform.LookAt(_player.CameraTransform);
shouldn't be
upper vapor
```c
_textToy.transform.LookAt(_player.CameraTransform);
```
where are you invoking this
grand flower
Make sure to apply the network rotation afterwards
upper vapor
Update should take care of that
icy wraith
Update should take care of that
Updating the position with the transform does update the rotation as well.
upper vapor
you set the transform instead of the network var'
what if we did both to eliminate that one-frame delay
icy wraith
Well, now everything works (it only took me one hour lol), thanks guys for your help !
upper vapor
Updating the position with the transform does update the rotation as well.
what
how
can you show the full code?
upper vapor
why is Extensions the single clsas in the API namespace
random scaffold
why is Extensions the single clsas in the API namespace
idk
I using to write all the methods there
upper vapor
"handlersregistry" is not an implementation
random scaffold
"handlersregistry" is not an implementation
but it implementation
upper vapor
I using to write all the methods there
consider splitting up the extensions class based on categories (e.g. what they're extending)
random scaffold
random scaffold
yes
upper vapor
not sure why you need interfaces for those
random scaffold
because interfaces cool
upper vapor
yeah
random scaffold
and i can make that
upper vapor
although it's not necessary if it'll only ever have 1 implementation
random scaffold
although it's not necessary if it'll only ever have 1 implementation
they won't allow you to change the names
upper vapor
will you have other module registries and managers?
random scaffold
random scaffold
will you have other module registries and managers?
no
upper vapor
what are you trying to say with that
if you rename something, you don't manually replace the occurrences, right..?
upper vapor
the system looks nice, though it's a bit overengineered imo
restive turret
dependency injection is cool though
Yes but not always needed
celest thorn
Honestly chat i will let you guys decide
should i organize SSSS in menus or depending on where are you?
because by different zone the SSSS can change
hearty shard
tf
upper vapor
it might be confusing for players to have SSSS options swapped "randomly"
upper vapor
ask your players 
celest thorn
ask your players <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>
like the gamemode isn't even open
yet
but im exploring alternatives
and doing my own SSSS wrapper
ISN'T happening
i don't want to deal with that
random scaffold
Yes but not always needed
celest thorn
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1095765841691287602/1108439384186953828...
Honestly
thats probably half of nw staffers
hearty shard
thats probably zero
ionic prawn
on a command how do i check the senders kick power cause i can only find plugin permissions
upper vapor
Uh
random scaffold
i wanna like
instanceModule
{
_handlersRegistry = xxx
}
upper vapor
Make it a property
random scaffold
but its impossible due it private field
upper vapor
Internal set
random scaffold
Internal set
example?
upper vapor
The interface just makes it more convoluted
You need a property to store the registry with an internal setter
random scaffold
but i wanna save it private
or internal
bruh
im tried make it by internal constructor
but it dont works that
upper vapor
Have an empty constructor and an internal prop
Well, parameterless constructor to be precise
restive turret
How can I see if i watching a door?
restive turret
Seems only gets the room? Wall? Something idk
upper vapor
whar
ionic prawn
when i try to test my 914 recipes when its dropped it dosent appear for the first time but i put it on fine again it upgrades janitor instead
public static void Process914PickupFully(
Scp914ProcessingPickupEventArgs ev,
Scp914KnobSetting targetKnob,
ItemType oldItem,
ItemType newItem)
{
if (ev.KnobSetting == targetKnob && ev.Pickup.Type == oldItem)
{
ev.IsAllowed = false;
Vector3 position = ev.Pickup.Position;
Quaternion rotation = ev.Pickup.Rotation;
ev.Pickup.Destroy();
Pickup.Create(newItem, position, rotation);
}
}
public override void OnScp914ProcessingPickup(Scp914ProcessingPickupEventArgs ev)
{
PluginFunctions.Process914PickupFully(ev, Scp914KnobSetting.Fine, ItemType.Coin, ItemType.KeycardJanitor);
PluginFunctions.Process914PickupFully(ev, Scp914KnobSetting.VeryFine, ItemType.KeycardO5, ItemType.Jailbird);
}
You have to spawn the pickup
Append .Spawn() after the create
upper vapor
You have to spawn the pickup
are you telling me that Create doesn't spawn it
hearty shard
are you telling me that Create doesn't spawn it
it does not
restive turret
Yup it doesn't spawn
spare zodiac
Hey are ragdolls still working the same resulting in client seeing them in different positions?
unique crane
Hey are ragdolls still working the same resulting in client seeing them in diffe...
Yes
restive turret
To be fair.. it is written in the xml docs
Xml isnt sent out to servers 
unique crane
Xml isnt sent out to servers <:BaguettesCar:1224487607258452139>
??
Its part of the nuget
restive turret
What if I dont use nuget then cant see
icy knoll
use the nuget, much better than the dll
restive turret
Also is nuget updated to latest or nah
icy knoll
yes
restive turret
Kk
icy knoll
well no
restive turret
Guuuh
restive turret
Hes sleeping on the job
icy knoll
idk if on loa or what but ye
upper vapor
but they are MIA
Mi a manó
(What the elf)
unique crane
Nothing I would know of
They are not important to be 100% synced for the game's context
Like the only time it matters a bit is when you want to revive someone as 049 or disguise as 3114
spare zodiac
I wanted to implement moving bodies in one of my plugins, but would not work in my favor
hearty shard
create a new ragdoll every tick 
spare zodiac
You will have to find an alternative
but only falling like the ragdoll is client sided right?
spare zodiac
create a new ragdoll every tick <:trolling:812737440866369548>
every frame
unique crane
Yes
hearty shard
ModeratorTools:
what
spare zodiac
Yes
how much is ragdoll networked? Is it possible to like remove entirely the ragdoll component?
upper vapor
create one every tick
admin aboose
unique crane
Cancelling mapgenerating event already causes shit ton of issues
upper vapor
you shall make surface networked so we can delete it <:SteamHappy:11573337129508...
prevent map generation
spare zodiac
prevent map generation
what?
worthy rune
to network it properly you would have to sync its entire transform heirachy which i dont think would be cheap, also it would likely make it look "glitchy" due to networking not being perfect
unique crane
Do not join server without map generation as your first one when you start the game
spare zodiac
could I just prevent all of the map generation not spawning anything?
I do love the new admin tools though
unique crane
No surface doesnt spawn anymore too
spare zodiac
does remove most things
noup
hearty shard
oh
spare zodiac
that's for generating random seed
hearty shard
-2 then
unique crane
No, -1 doesnt generate the map
hearty shard
thanks david
upper vapor
OnMapGenerating
ev.IsAllowed = false
hearty shard
saskyc ur WRONG
icy knoll
do you guys think it’s better to create new speakers every time they are needed and delete them after or keep them until the server destroys them?
spare zodiac
do you guys think it’s better to create new speakers every time they are needed ...
create 1000 and save each in dictionary
trust
icy knoll
probably do but idk what pooling them means
spare zodiac
so what's seed for random generation?
upper vapor
so what's seed for random generation?
just cancel the mapgenerating event
the seed is generated before that event gets called
if the config value is -1
ű
unique crane
so what's seed for random generation?
Any value below 1 will cause random gen
You have to cancel the generation using a plugin
cant do it via server config
upper vapor
have a collection that stores inactive instances, when renting, try to get one from the pool (the collection)
if the collection is empty, create a new one
unique crane
What
upper vapor
surely you've heard of StringBuilderPool or ListPool
hearty shard
upper vapor
omg wrong reply
upper vapor
probably do but idk what pooling them means
i replied to david 😭
istg why is this app so mfing laggy
unique crane
But yeaaaaa
icy knoll
oh right
unique crane
I dont know
upper vapor
no host
unique crane
I spent whole day with it
hearty shard
restart your game if you join server without map gen..
why would you
unique crane
But like
restive turret
???
upper vapor
Nothing spawns if you join normal server afterwards
bruh
does the seed message not go through?
restive turret
I love errors
unique crane
No, it says that it couldnt find proper networked prefab or whatever
upper vapor
I love errors
um actually it's your fault, you should've read the docs 🤓
hearty shard
sob?
unique crane
I have feeling its because of rooms
restive turret
um actually it's your fault, you should've read the docs 🤓
There is no docs
Everything broken
upper vapor
hearty shard
how to connect labapi event to exiled? <@1180466630191501363>
what
literally just
use the labapi event
and it works
boom
restive turret
Lmao
Maybe preventing spawn doesnt add basic stuff into networkmanager prefabs?
Yes thats the issue btw
unique crane
Yeah I have feeling its rooms
restive turret
Maybe preventing spawn doesnt add basic stuff into networkmanager prefabs?
I think zero had this issue
upper vapor
are rooms in the networked prefab list
restive turret
are rooms in the networked prefab list
Idk
upper vapor
Where he cannot spawn a door
she
restive turret
Test it
unique crane
are rooms in the networked prefab list
Not in the normal way
restive turret
You cant destroy non networked objects
upper vapor
what's in the map that has to do anything with this
spare zodiac
You cant destroy non networked objects
ye
unique crane
My theory
spare zodiac
a game theory
upper vapor
dafq is this
spare zodiac
GUYS IT WORKS
unique crane
Some map gen stuff
upper vapor
GUYS IT WORKS
parenting to the player? 
unique crane
my positions seems to be locked in place though
Spawn door
spare zodiac
parenting to the player? <:d_rock:1041053522680098948>
no SSS
spare zodiac
Spawn door
what's the labapi way to do it?
upper vapor
o
upper vapor
what's the labapi way to do it?
find prefab from NetworkClient.prefabs
spawn
no labapi way really
unique crane
Not right now
spare zodiac
wow
so would gameplay work normally if the whole map would be deleted and I would spawn things through like project mer or smth?
spare zodiac
welp it's probably going to crash in a minute
I dropped a gun and SL is trying to lock it back in place
worn gull
Is this LabApi or plugin error?
[2025-06-15 16:40:22.712 +02:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. Key: ReferenceHub (Name='Player [connId=3]', NetID='2367', PlayerID='21')
[2025-06-15 16:40:22.712 +02:00] [STDOUT] at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].TryInsert (TKey key, TValue value, System.Collections.Generic.InsertionBehavior behavior) [0x0015a] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-06-15 16:40:22.712 +02:00] [STDOUT] at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].Add (TKey key, TValue value) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-06-15 16:40:22.712 +02:00] [STDOUT] at LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player..ctor (ReferenceHub referenceHub) [0x0000b] in <ed207da941d64f12942f0c5cc79632fc>:0
[2025-06-15 16:40:22.712 +02:00] [STDOUT] at LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player.AddPlayer (ReferenceHub referenceHub) [0x00008] in <ed207da941d64f12942f0c5cc79632fc>:0
[2025-06-15 16:40:22.712 +02:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.Action`1[ReferenceHub].invoke_void_T(ReferenceHub)
[2025-06-15 16:40:22.712 +02:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper dynamic-method) ReferenceHub.ReferenceHub.Start_Patch2(ReferenceHub)
Start_Patch2 
upper vapor
Start_Patch2 <:Fear:1172595228193067138>
real
worn gull
https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1274617943258566726/137715715864...
Thanks!
Also
restive turret
Felso
upper vapor
np
upper vapor
yeah that's been reported
royal mica
upper vapor
hungyary moment
restive turret
languid temple
upper vapor
5 ppl
hearty shard
miller!!
sinful bronze
time to remove hcz testroom
sinful bronze
(what have network component)
heady turret
Some map gen stuff
Why did testroom and tc00 have netId.?
unique crane
914 has too I think?
unique crane
Idk
ionic prawn
public static void Process914PickupFully(
Scp914ProcessingPickupEventArgs ev,
Scp914KnobSetting targetKnob,
ItemType oldItem,
ItemType newItem)
{
if (ev.KnobSetting == targetKnob && ev.Pickup.Type == oldItem)
{
ev.IsAllowed = false;
Quaternion rotation = ev.Pickup.Rotation;
Vector3 position = ev.Pickup.Position;
ev.Pickup.Destroy();
Pickup.Create(newItem, position, rotation).Spawn();
}
}
the position is like before and not like the end at 914
modern lark
Is it possible to cancel the ticket / influence gained by killing another player?
upper vapor
you can definitely patch it 
grand flower
howd it go
Just woke up, trying again
upper vapor
public static void Process914PickupFully(
Scp914ProcessingPickupEventArg...
ev.NewPosition
use that
ionic prawn
where
toxic rock
How i can add force to grenade?
grand flower
@static osprey still broken
ionic prawn
ev.NewPosition
where?
toxic rock
How i can add force to grenade?
this is my current code
grand flower
lmk if there's anything I can do to help
static osprey
kk, few mins and ill finish eatring
ionic prawn
ohhhh
ionic prawn
ev.NewPosition
grand flower
he's the stuff im inputting
separated by =======
sec
here's the attached file
upper vapor
this is my current code
you can also do this
ionic prawn
i see what you sent lol
ionic prawn
i dont even care about it
grand flower
some clown will
ionic prawn
i can join the server (:
grand flower
nah that was like, my ip not Bright's
was testing on a vanilla server to make sure it wasn't on us
ionic prawn
nooo i cant join
grand flower
hah
ionic prawn
i think my friend soon will work at Valentinos
toxic rock
you can also do [this](<https://github.com/Axwabo/ModeratorTools/blob/2f0ab4d680...
thanks
ionic prawn
how should i make random broadcasts in the server, a good way
random scaffold
how should i make random broadcasts in the server, a good way
coroutine
upper vapor
how should i make random broadcasts in the server, a good way
coroutine
pull a message from a list using .RandomItem
random scaffold
grand flower
Need to make a RandomOrDefault() extension
static osprey
<@762056832738000907> still broken
can you try now
and can you open the f12 menu and get the network request
upper vapor
you took down QA with your last successful report
random scaffold
axwabo moment
random scaffold
0 trackers
grand flower
I have an rpi running pihole in my living room
grand flower
Better
main zenith
is there a way to disable jailbird charge?
static osprey
@grand flower can you send a pic here of what you're entering
hearty shard
@unique crane
pls make this work :3
to not use original definition
im gonna crash out
its definitely possible
although i think Deserialize is only used on client
so make it server too :3
actually looks like server does it too
hearty shard
moment
upper vapor
i bit into your ram :3
upper vapor
matec
grand flower
Our servers are so good the game wants you to play them
grand flower
Get 192GB and it won't ever be a problem
hearty shard
SL does like using a lot
grand flower
peace and tranquility
until I build a UE project and ~120GB is used, but that's still a healthy 62GB left
restive turret
its like 20% of my memory being used so
i have like 20 google page open + 2 VS project
grand flower
I just got tired of Unreal hogging my PC when compiling/building a game
now it stays buttery smooth
upper vapor
just increase the size of the page file
grand flower
I'd rather not kill my NVMe drives faster
and well, I wanted buttery smooth
page files aren't that
upper vapor
ik lol
icy knoll
sorry to interupt guys but does anyone know if it's possible to make a TextToy be able to follow the camera of someone who is looking at it? Like so they can read it no matter the angle?
grand flower
transform.LookAt
grand flower
although that would only be for one player
upper vapor
transform.LookAt
uh
icy knoll
i need it to be for all players
upper vapor
yeah but then you need to flip it
grand flower
NW should just add a setting to make it face the local player, always
icy knoll
fake sync vars
i really dont know how to do that 😭
if maybe someone gave me pointers that would be awesome
upper vapor
transformpoint the distance from player to text toy
copy rotation
upper vapor
if maybe someone gave me pointers that would be awesome
exiled code
also you need to write the dirty bits twice, 2nd after the transform stuff
upper vapor
ye
icy knoll
yippie this looks so fun!
restive turret
if maybe someone gave me pointers that would be awesome
RainbowSix.exe+0x053AC048+0x90
upper vapor
yippie this looks so fun!
did you say that honestly? 😭
icy knoll
no ofc not
restive turret
icy knoll
what would T be here for SendFakeSyncVar<T>
upper vapor
what would T be here for SendFakeSyncVar<T>
the prop's type
icy knoll
ye
upper vapor
<https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions/blob/main/Extensions/FakeSyn...
wwwthis won't work for transform
icy knoll
wwwthis won't work for transform
awww i was gunna use this for reference
back to exiled i go
restive turret
wwwthis won't work for transform
?? wdym
icy knoll
idk how this stuff works 😭
restive turret
if you have the networked beh and the dirtyBit you can
what tramsofmr you want to edit
icy knoll
what tramsofmr you want to edit
TextToy rotation, I want to make it so the text toy looks at every player
upper vapor
@icy knoll put what i highlighted after the if
icy knoll
<@618689346828238848> put what i highlighted after the if
put whats in the image after the if?
ok
restive turret
i fixed it will psuh it so you can see it
icy knoll
just writer.WriteUlong actually
huh
upper vapor
i fixed it will psuh it so you can see it
yeah check again
icy knoll
can i copy and paste this or will you want full 100% credits 😭
upper vapor
nothing changed 
grand flower
That's a funky license to use for code
upper vapor
i reverse-engineered mirror so i don't need a notice
restive turret
i reverse-engineered mirror so i don't need a notice <:toomuchtrolling:974345880...
cant wait for dmca 
icy knoll
hmmmm
grand flower
Better safe than sorry
LabApi has a few things that can be null even when they're marked as not null
restive turret
hmmmm
Thats fake
if connectionToServer or connectionToClient is not INITED or you still connecting
icy knoll
me when doesnt exist in labapi
hearty shard
IsOnline?
upper vapor
ye
restive turret
if (!target.IsConnected)
return;
IsConnected is literally Connection != null
birj
icy knoll
@hearty shard when send fake sync var coming to secretapi 
hearty shard
<@1180466630191501363> when send fake sync var coming to secretapi <:TrollDespai...
never
idk how it works
icy knoll
also what is ulong dirtyBit 😭
hearty shard
its a dirty bit probably
upper vapor
just get it from mirror
icy knoll
just get it from mirror
method? 😭
restive turret
that is NetworkRotation
hearty shard
the only reason secretapi has mirror extension is i figured out how it works
upper vapor
network props
restive turret
the only reason secretapi has mirror extension is i figured out how it works
with me yes
icy knoll
network props
in TextToy::Base or?
upper vapor
yea
hearty shard
with me yes
u did hashcode
restive turret
fun fact
restive turret
NetworkXXX if what you usually see as a SyncVar
upper vapor
decompile
restive turret
restive turret
butt
upper vapor
2UL
restive turret
2uL for Rotation
upper vapor
for rotation
icy knoll
do I just type that in or what 😭
upper vapor
yes
restive turret
ye duh
upper vapor
and obviously just edit the rotation right?
icy knoll
thank you ax for your absolutely lovely show of affection
restive turret
here for example
icy knoll
easier to do a component then
upper vapor
here for example
she's got it
upper vapor
easier to do a component then
restive turret
plrrrrflfl
icy knoll
here for example
wait this is how you make it look at a player all the time or?
upper vapor
finally some component users
icy knoll
or just once you initially call it?
icy knoll
finally some component users
i love components
restive turret
one time, if you move it will look to old position still
upper vapor
i love components
restive turret
why not parent it to player?
upper vapor
that's possible too
icy knoll
one time, if you move it will look to old position still
idk how Quaternion.identity makes it follow but yeah
restive turret
idk how Quaternion.identity makes it follow but yeah
that just and example for quat
icy knoll
why not parent it to player?
wont it then follow the player?
i only want it to follow rotation
just stay in place
restive turret
ohhh
icy knoll
the text toy will be parented to a player on top of their head
i want to make it so whenever someone looks at the player
they can read it
because its pointing towards them
that's what i want
😭
icy knoll
have i done this all wrong or smth? 😭
upper vapor
no it's good
restive turret
idk i never made such a thing
upper vapor
don't forget to send the fake sync var to the player who has it above their head
icy knoll
don't forget to send the fake sync var to the player who has it above their head...
i will hide it for that player 😭
but now i just realised components might be a little easier
would i have to make smth like this a network behaviour or mono behaviour?
icy knoll
okie
restive turret
i think if you parent to the player and the player is looking other direction contatantly and someone looking at that player the textoy will "flicker" (roation being the owner rotation & also the backward look direction)
icy knoll
i plan on making a component with a player field and just setting that player field to be the player it's designed for and just sync the rotation during the update field or smth
upper vapor
toy.IsStatic = true
upper vapor
i never use that
you dummy
restive turret
ye and whatdoesitto
icy knoll
i plan on making a component with a player field and just setting that player fi...
wait this wont work as it will constantly rotate 24/7 😭
upper vapor
ye and whatdoesitto
disables transform updates
so if you have it parented
there won't be extra messages
restive turret
but you need some update for position only but not the rotation
upper vapor
what
the object is parented to the player
it's static
the transform will only be set once
if you fake the sync vars, no flicker cuz the game doesn't send updates anway
upper vapor
i never use that
also, admintoys' performance is horrible cuz nw decided to get transform THREE TIMES in the same method
restive turret
but you still need some sort of coroutine to update the position but not hte roation
upper vapor
yea
restive turret
also, admintoys' performance is horrible cuz nw decided to get `transform` THREE...
cinema
upper vapor
but you still need some sort of coroutine to update the position but not hte roa...
component
works too
restive turret
i guess
upper vapor
restive turret
idk
random scaffold
some big brain
System.MissingMethodException: Default constructor not found for type Test.Modules.TestModule
at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceMono (System.Boolean nonPublic, System.Boolean wrapExceptions) [0x00076] in <13c0c460649d4ce49f991e2c222fa635>:0
why
method in the same assembly
why he cant find
random scaffold
yes
hearty shard
not new(module)
random scaffold
me dont need params
he have internal constructor
but if im get type from other assembly
it show error
why
hearty shard
CreateInstance is likely looking for public ones
check its params
there'll prob be option to look for non public
random scaffold
nonpublic = true?
same
System.MissingMethodException: Default constructor not found for type Test.Modules.TestModule
random scaffold
used nonpublic
grand flower
stackoverflow to the rescue
grand flower
System.MissingMethodException: Default constructor not found for type Test.Modul...
(use your google fu)
although
that's what you're doing wut
okay nvm i can't read lol
Are you certain you got the latest assemblies running
restive turret
And the TestModule has a parameterless ctor?
random scaffold
now it that
but now inaccessable error due module cant get default constructor from test module
bruh
and it will be public
stupid language
restive turret
You can edit the CreateInstance to use the already existing handlersRegistry
Activator.CreateInstance(module, handlersRegistry)
Vola!
random scaffold
then i need make stupid line like public Test(interface boo) : base(boo)
restive turret
And shojld work
restive turret
then i need make stupid line like public Test(interface boo) : base(boo)
Yes ofc
random scaffold
i wanna delete this fucking line
restive turret
You did this to yourself
grand flower
then i need make stupid line like public Test(interface boo) : base(boo)
You'd always need that anyway
You can't
If you're doing something DI like, generally services don't derive from each other that way
restive turret
I still have no idea why you wanna parse IHandlersRegistry into module when you already registring after it
grand flower
now it's an antipattern of DI, but whatever works for you I suppose
restive turret
Go back learning C#
grand flower
If you really wanna do something DI like with Reflection, either do what DI does already, or like, use attributes
restive turret
I generally dislike DI if not necessarily
grand flower
I love DI, but it is rarely used in game development
random scaffold
I generally dislike DI if not necessarily
It's convenient
grand flower
It doesn't fit it much
restive turret
Ye
restive turret
It's convenient
Ye, I see ...
grand flower
Singletons are acceptable, Northwood has the ReferenceHub
We use subsystems a lot in Unreal, they're just like singletons but their lifetime can be scoped to different things (the entire game, a player, a level)
restive turret
Stride love using DI pretty much a LOT
grand flower
What's Stride
grand flower
never heard about it
restive turret
Ye
restive turret
Cus crashing left and right
grand flower
I don't really pay much attention to game engines that aren't the "industry standard"
They can be interesting but they won't get me a job so I don't focus on them heh
restive turret
I love experimenting and seeing stuff
But unreal sucks for me
Less space and hate dx12
grand flower
The learning curve is pretty huge yeah
Although with the Blueprints and the new UEFN stuff, it gets lower and lower
restive turret
Ehh, I see what code the blueprint produce so ehhh
grand flower
wdym
restive turret
The bp to cpp code
grand flower
Nativization hasn't been a thing since UE5, it's gone hah
random scaffold
where i can find how use yaml serialize and deserialize
grand flower
And yeah - it's not meant to be readable/manually edited, it's just supposed to be a little performance boost if required
random scaffold
restive turret
Game was ue4
grand flower
yeah, it was a good feature though
restive turret
But now a badegame with nothing in it exceeds 10gb
Also half of the industry cant learn how pak file chunking works
Like ofc they gona put the whole game into a single .pak file
grand flower
that's just a skill issue
restive turret
And have my pc and steam cry when they see somethin.pak (-3MB) in changelog
restive turret
that's just a skill issue
I can say like many AAAA or id ie does it
grand flower
nobody reads it
restive turret
nobody reads it
Ye can confirm
grand flower
I can say like many AAAA or id ie does it
AAAA
so the bullshit studios
but yeah skill issue regardless
restive turret
> AAAA
so the bullshit studios <:DogKek:733101489052057682>
but yeah skill issu...
Yup, and some indies too
Dont say you cannot split to "coretextures", "mainlevel" "sounds" paks
grand flower
I tend to spend the first week on a new project setting it up properly, and getting a nice little pipeline for Steam tests
saves time in the long run
grand flower
Dont say you cannot split to "coretextures", "mainlevel" "sounds" paks
It's a little more difficult than that
In UE4.26 it was easy to split paks
But new UE5 features make it a little harder, and it does have an impact at times
restive turret
Impact in my CPU lifetime
grand flower
Generally if you set things up properly, Steam shouldn't be affected as much though
restive turret
And hdd
grand flower
You can definitely make different paks for different types of assets using Primary Asset Labels
Helps a little
Also a lot of studios don't remember a lot of the unused engine stuff, so it ends up packed with the project anyway
restive turret
Well since I cant use it not like that helps me but its good
restive turret
Nice, atleast
hearty shard
with the cameratoy
yea
grand flower
how do
hearty shard
how do
NetworkClient.prefabs
Find correct prefab
Using unity name
Thats how PMER does at least
grand flower
but there's no way with CameraToy?
hearty shard
get the camera toy prefab that matches
Idk for uhh
Camera toy wrapper
Doesnt look possible with the wrapper
hearty shard
Unfortunate indeed
static osprey
can you send the text
grand flower
can you send the text
grand flower
o7
grand flower
Unfortunate indeed
wasn't too hard, can just get the prefab that has the spawntoy command you're looking for, spawn it and then create the wrapper for it
slate flume
Thank you John Northwood 🙏🏼
grand flower
wdym
static osprey
@grand flowertry this
the last line for the "What actually happens" field seems to be the troublesome one
so i just wrote it again a little bit different
static osprey
awesome
hearty shard
Pai ....
slate flume
Wasn't this already able to be done before? Or was it just updated to include ALL damage handlers, even the ones you original couldn't modify damage on?
random scaffold
[ERROR] [LabApi] 'NullReferenceException' occured while invoking 'OnServerWaitingForPlayers' on 'ProjectMER.Events.Handlers.Internal.MapOnEventHandlers': 'Object reference not set to an instance of an object.', stack trace:
at UnityEngine.Bindings.ThrowHelper.ThrowNullReferenceException (System.Object obj) [0x00018] in <6869b1608d104370ab4484f8f699b3fc>:0
at UnityEngine.Component.get_transform () [0x00006] in <6869b1608d104370ab4484f8f699b3fc>:0
at LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Room.get_Transform () [0x00006] in <ed207da941d64f12942f0c5cc79632fc>:0
at Conf.Freezy.API.Extensions.CreateTrigger (LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Room room, LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Door door, UnityEngine.Vector3 scale, UnityEngine.Vector3 offset) [0x00019] in <8ed01d0d115c4b069fcf835ce47a9141>:0
at Conf.Freezy.API.Extensions.InitTriggerPositions () [0x000c7] in <8ed01d0d115c4b069fcf835ce47a9141>:0
at Conf.Freezy.Handlers.ServerHandler.OnServerWaitingForPlayers () [0x00007] in <8ed01d0d115c4b069fcf835ce47a9141>:0
at LabApi.Events.EventManager.InvokeEvent (LabApi.Events.LabEventHandler eventHandler) [0x0001d] in <ed207da941d64f12942f0c5cc79632fc>:0
[2025-06-16 01:38:17.306 +00:00] [ERROR] [LabApi] 'MissingMethodException' occured while invoking 'OnServerWaitingForPlayers' on 'ProjectMER.Events.Handlers.Internal.MapOnEventHandlers': 'Method not found: MapGeneration.RoomIdentifier[] LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Door.get_Rooms()', stack trace:
at LabApi.Events.EventManager.InvokeEvent (LabApi.Events.LabEventHandler eventHandler) [0x0001d] in <ed207da941d64f12942f0c5cc79632fc>:0
lol
nw moment
grand flower
Anyone know where the implementation for SCP-049's call ability is?
or wait
maybe im confusing abilities
no im not
Can't seem to find where it gives hume shield to zombies
ah it's in their shield controller
slate flume
If I set a player's gravity to be sideways, will that break shit, act weirdly, both, or none?
Context, I used position overrides to pull people into an object, but I wonder if using gravity would work better
limber silo
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Well I do, but rarely. Mainly because I still haven't migrated from exiled.
worthy rune
<@282125275930820608>
you should just use SyncSelectionIndexRaw instead if each client has a different options list
since the client can send what ever they want back you would have to validate it yourself
grand flower
uhhhhh
why is Scp939CreatedAmnesticCloud called when the cloud is in spawning state
it triggers even if 939 doesn't hold it all the way or actually spawns the cloud
worthy rune
i think it might be because a prefab is always spawned even if it doesnt meet the requirements
it needs to spawn to show the graphics(the circle on the ground)
grand flower
is there any event for when one is fully formed?
worthy rune
i dont think so
upper vapor
is there any event for when one is fully formed?
Patch
unique crane
If I set a player's gravity to be sideways, will that break shit, act weirdly, b...
It will work
But again
You have to be mid-air
¨for gravity to take effect
but yes, you will go sideways
restive turret
Zero gravity
slate flume
Zero gravity
But for it to take effect, you need to be in the air
restive turret
F
pine parcel
Has anyone done any plugin work with the dummies yet? (Things like giving them some sentience and having them follow team members, shoot enemies, etc.)
upper vapor
Has anyone done any plugin work with the dummies yet? (Things like giving them s...
Yes (not me)
restive turret
I trying
Sadly I didn't really know how would I solve issue that checks if its a door then open that door
pine parcel
I've done brief coding in csharp, and have decent experience in python, so for me it's trying to find the time to get invested into the flow of SCP SL plugin coding
I was thinking earlier about the door problem, main issue is I don't know all the information I theoretically have access to, but for standard doors, can't you get the dummy to interact with a door in front of them while holding forward.
Scenario A) The door is already open, therefore the door hitbox isn't in front of them and they just pass through the doorway
Scenario B) The door is closed, therefore the hitbox is in front and their interact opens said door.
The main issue I see potentially is keycard doors