doesn't it get modified?
#plugins-dev-chat
celest thorn
restive turret
Magic
grand flower
wdym modified
celest thorn
new position
grand flower
it's only cached within one update
it won't be changed during that update
it's why I clear the cache at the start of the update
celest thorn
Ok so
you cache the target
and from there if they have it just sent it
or the reciver?
because both could be
grand flower
I cache this
if we have a relative position for the target's position, we use it
else we create & cache it
celest thorn
RelativePosition more like ComplicatedPosition
yes its so complicated
because there's like thousands of class
for this
grand flower
I'll be honest
I don't like relative positioning
I find it somewhat overkill for what it's meant to achieve
restive turret
You can always round up to 3rd one in float
grand flower
not even necessary
celest thorn
Example here i don't even see what you mention
restive turret
And isn't big, 12 byte (4,4,4)
restive turret
Decimal
grand flower
With higher player counts
celest thorn
replace that with the GetOrCreate method that gets cache or creates it
but can't you optimize it even more
if you check the position is the same instead of clearing it
restive turret
16*3 
grand flower
if you check the position is the same instead of clearing it
I don't know the specifics about the relative positioning in detail enough to know if doing so could cause issues
so I opted to cache per-frame
upper vapor
If we could eliminate the transform getter that would be poggies
grand flower
safest option which gives huge results anyway
upper vapor
safest option which gives huge results anyway
You should open source it so we can contribute to SecretFine
Or LabFine
restive turret
Example here i don't even see what you mention
Btw can be done by sending extra bool here with isinvisible so it doesnt sends the default of the data
grand flower
If I get permission from the head honchos at Brights mayhaps
celest thorn
You should open source it so we can contribute to SecretFine
If he does
grand flower
In the meantime you've got all the info to reproduce it yourself
celest thorn
i will try to contribute it
upper vapor
If I get permission from the head honchos at Brights mayhaps
Let's gooo
celest thorn
because it could be a game changer
upper vapor
In the meantime you've got all the info to reproduce it yourself
True
celest thorn
but wait
now that i think about it
i did similar thing
when i was working on the 100 players for lars
grand flower
caching defo helps for 100 players but round robin adds a lot to it as well
celest thorn
caching defo helps for 100 players but round robin adds a lot to it as well
Honestly bro if you can open it, i will try to contribute because i found some stuff myself in the past that lagged the server
and i've managed to make a server with 100 player moving randomly to 5 tps to just 40
grand flower
Doubt the plugin will be open source, but I might be able to get permission for some gists
grand flower
It's not too complicated
celest thorn
It's not too complicated
just alot of thinking and time
grand flower
Next up on my list is adaptive update rates
grand flower
Goal is 30 TPS minimum @ 48 players on a single-core server
random scaffold
got ~5-7 TPS at 48 players bonus
buy better hosting 
optimization by transpiler 
grand flower
Slowly getting it there bit by bit
celest thorn
Goal is 30 TPS minimum @ 48 players on a single-core server
SINGLe CORE?
grand flower
yeah
restive turret
Pentium
celest thorn
buy better hosting <:Disagree:803314418024841266>
optimization by transpiler <:...
trust me i did optimize primitives
and they are quite a pain
grand flower
buy better hosting <:Disagree:803314418024841266>
optimization by transpiler <:...
Not like the game needs 32 cores per server
restive turret
trust me i did optimize primitives
Ye i know u did that
celest thorn
Ye i know u did that
i got yesterday 10fps more on a 100k schematic
so a win is a win
celest thorn
that is already implemented
restive turret
How do u delete a non networked go?
grand flower
Object.Destroy?
celest thorn
How do u delete a non networked go?
secret :3
restive turret
I mean
celest thorn
Object.Destroy?
they are all client side
100% of all of the primitives are client side
only like ServerSide one with Components aren't
grand flower
probs a mirror message
celest thorn
probs a mirror message
yes
restive turret
Hey all client, destroy this game object
restive turret
celest thorn
trust me 90% of the stuff is unknown shit i do
restive turret
Gatekeepers
celest thorn
and 10% is optimizing
celest thorn
Gatekeepers
I cannot release it
restive turret
And 99% you don't know that to do
celest thorn
nor talk in a specific way
celest thorn
And 99% you don't know that to do
im just optimizing so much that its even hard to make more optimization
at some point it will be impossible
celest thorn
Best optimalization
fr
restive turret
celest thorn
you gave me an idea
I NEED those FPS
i want to run 100M primitives
in one server
now im in half
so only 50M is the max before ram runs out
and server cpu explodes
upper vapor
I cannot release it
You can if the server gets disbanded 
restive turret
Just don't send all at once
celest thorn
You can if the server gets disbanded <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>
nope :3
celest thorn
Just don't send all at once
I implemented a different approch
restive turret
I spawned like 10*RoomCount coins and server froze for like 10sec
celest thorn
I spawned like 10*RoomCount coins and server froze for like 10sec
my server doesn't even freeze
60 tps
stable
with 200k primitives in total
:3
50M makes the server at 50 TPS
restive turret
Well those are client side not server
celest thorn
Well those are client side not server
server are 3/4
and even those are optimized :3
restive turret
celest thorn
I just don't have anything else to optimize
I optimized it so much
that its impossible
celest thorn
Animations
never
possile
BUT
i've made a way
that i can run a version of them
actually with client side ones :3
upper vapor
Just don't send all at once
public sealed class MapGenerator : IDisposable
{
private GameObject _mapParent;
private CoroutineHandle? _handle;
public event Action OnCompleted;
public float Progress { get; private set; } = -1;
private void InvokeCompleted()
{
Progress = 1;
OnCompleted?.Invoke();
}
private void SpawnMapInstantly()
{
_mapParent = API.SpawnObjects(Map.Objects, MapSpawnPosition);
Logger.Info($"Successfully loaded map {Map.Name}");
InvokeCompleted();
}
private void SpawnMapPeriodically()
{
Logger.Info($"Periodically loading map {Map.Name}");
_mapParent = API.CreateObjects(Map.Objects, MapSpawnPosition);
_handle = Timing.RunCoroutine(SpawnPeriodically());
}
private IEnumerator<float> SpawnPeriodically()
{
yield return Timing.WaitForSeconds(1f);
var components = _mapParent.GetComponentsInChildren<NetworkIdentity>();
var total = (float) components.Length;
for (var i = 0; i < components.Length; i++)
{
var identity = components[i];
Progress = i / total;
var o = identity.gameObject;
if (!identity.TryGetComponent<slocObjectData>(out var data) || data.ShouldBeSpawnedOnClient)
NetworkServer.Spawn(o);
if (i % 100 == 0)
yield return Timing.WaitForSeconds(0.1f);
}
Logger.Info($"Successfully loaded map {Map.Name}");
InvokeCompleted();
}
}
The illusion of slow loading
Looks better with the progressbar though
restive turret
Me when i
VAL |DATING
upper vapor
What
restive turret
The I in validating isn't really shown
Same in loading something cuts off cus of the font
upper vapor
grand flower
trying something for the luls
skipping the update of all dummies
p much zero benefits for normal gameplay since you (generally) don't use em
upper vapor
dummy.gameObject.SetActive(false)
grand flower
but funny
upper vapor
restive turret
grand flower
wish we had access to a profiler
would make hunting and patching performance issues so much easier
grand flower
idk why that couldn't be a thing
not like PDBs would be an issue considering it's already unobfuscated C#
celest thorn
wish we had access to a profiler
Already made it a suggestion
restive turret
Ye its already ifdeffed out
celest thorn
https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-do-it-gif-15871337907184961450
lol
restive turret
Huh
celest thorn
and then make SL Server in another language
restive turret
Ah
celest thorn
c++ scp sl server
restive turret
Have fun
restive turret
<:trollfancy:1357005182239772742> c++ scp sl server
Nah it's AnsiC
Make the server in JavaScript
: ๐ฅ
celest thorn
Make the server in JavaScript
in brainfuck
grand flower
more of a hassle than just patching the oddities out and reporting anything that needs clientside changes to NW
restive turret
Remove client
celest thorn
Remove Central Server
restive turret
It will be server side ๐ฅ
celest thorn
no SL
upper vapor
<:trollfancy:1357005182239772742> c++ scp sl server
Zig
slate flume
So uhh which one is the observer and which is the SCP
slate flume
Check docs
Whereee
terse bone
So uhh which one is the observer and which is the SCP
Player is 173
grand flower
Generally you can see it this way: Player is the player concerned with the event.
PlayerHurt: Player is the one that got hurt.
ScpXXX: Player is the SCP
etc etc
bit confusing at first
upper vapor
It will be server side ๐ฅ
SSCS?
Server side central server
slate flume
Generally you can see it this way: Player is the player concerned with the event...
Ye I was just confused cause my code wasn't working then I realized I needed an !
It happens so much that I accidentally mistype and forget an exclamation mark and wonder why everything broke
icy knoll
Spot the difference:
the difference is that you arent adding a dupe in the 2nd image
slate flume
the difference is that you arent adding a dupe in the 2nd image
The difference is I actually add to the fucking list in the second image lmao
The list starts empty
In the first nothing ever gets added to it
Cause it's never contained
icy knoll
yeah because you are checking if the player exists, but it never does
slate flume
Exactly
slate flume
Lmao I was like "why was my code not working" and then I realized I forgot a !
restive turret
SSCS?
Server side central server
Central server are written in php so
normal pawn
Is it possible to change door's permission and make panel display new permissions?
wispy dirge
is there a way to add a door to door management
when you destroy a doors gameobject thats on door management you can remove it
but is there a way to add one
upper vapor
Is it possible to change door's permission and make panel display new permission...
With primitives maybe but there's no base game way to my knowledge
normal pawn
upper vapor
but is there a way to add one
Add a DoorNametagExtension component and set the DoorName or something
Not sure if it shows up in RA
But with doorTP it works
wispy dirge
k
pseudo hawk
For my plugin Iโm using a local sqlite database. Currently Iโm using Task.Run to perform non-blocking read/write operations. Should I be using something different like the async system unity provides or Job scheduling?
terse bone
you can keep using tasks or use Unity's Awaitable
random scaffold
upper vapor
For my plugin Iโm using a local sqlite database. Currently Iโm using Task.Run to...
Awaitables are preferred
normal pawn
Does the Custom info allow new lines? If I set ci like this
line 1
line 2
``` it says that custom info doesn't match regex
hearty shard
Does the Custom info allow new lines? If I set ci like this
```
line 1
line 2
``...
check the validate method
normal pawn
I just don't understand regex
normal pawn
Like wth does this mean ^((?![\\[\\]])[\\p{L}\\p{P}\\p{Sc}\\p{N} ^=+|~`<>\\n]){0,400}$?
slate flume
Hi @hearty shard I had a quick question if you're available
I got SecretAPI working, but I noticed that the HandleSettingUpdate runs once when the button is pressed, and once when it's depressed
Is there any function or method I can use to run only when the button is pressed, or should I just use a flip-flopping boolean?
hearty shard
Hi <@1180466630191501363> I had a quick question if you're available
I got Secre...
if (!IsPressed)
return;
hearty shard
yea no worries
hearty shard
negative
restive turret
Hi <@1180466630191501363> I had a quick question if you're available
I got Secre...
why you making the button depressed?
hearty shard
why you making the button depressed?
gonna make you depressed
upper vapor
Like wth does this mean ```^((?![\\[\\]])[\\p{L}\\p{P}\\p{Sc}\\p{N} ^=+|~`<>\\n]...
Pretty helpful if you need to understand regexes in the future
normal pawn
hearty shard
you have to resend when setting these
so maybe i should make my settings resync when changed?
idk
id have to rework my thing since it would send the default options
idk
i hate this
im just gonna obsolete the setters
thats the solution atp
nw pls rework SSSS
this shit SUCKS
agile oasis
where you got CallNextFrame ?
upper vapor
where you got CallNextFrame ?
icy knoll
you can just do Timing.CallDelayed(0.1f, () => {})
0 > 0.1f
does the exact same thing btw LOL
upper vapor
restive turret
set to (1/60)
royal mica
120 tick, just like cs lule
buoyant oyster
does changing ev.Items in PlayerReceivingLoadoutEvent cause the loadout to change?
random scaffold
how to fix fucking micro freezing in visual studio while inputting text or press buttons?
used gpu
random scaffold
stop using vs
in discord same in randomly time
upper vapor
driver issue maybe?
terse bone
latest doesn't mean the best
upper vapor
terse bone
windows moment
young phoenix
is there a way to get the displayname of the player that left, when I use PlayerLeft event it returns null
terse bone
Patch CustomNetworkManager.OnServerDisconnect can't check rn what to patch exactly
random scaffold
Im too lazy to search so
how i can make [No Reports] or other custom text in RA Players?
upper vapor
how i can make [No Reports] or other custom text in RA Players?
cedmod has built-in stuff
or
restive turret
Making custom
[FakePlayers]
hearty shard
how i can make [No Reports] or other custom text in RA Players?
create a player
dont show them anywhere except RA
random scaffold
create a player
how i know it possible just by patch
hearty shard
how i know it possible just by patch
as axwabo said, check cedmod
royal mica
how i know it possible just by patch
Copy the decompiled code for the Raplayers class
Using my solution requires no additional deps 
upper vapor
royal mica
using the CommandSystem is much easier to maintain though
since this way, the system can break any time
upper vapor
wait until NW breaks a patch by compiling the game on another machine and thereforce changing a local index
upper vapor
the patch would likely fail
so you wouldn't see RA options
-# has happened before with commands
true cedar
wait until NW breaks a patch by compiling the game on another machine and theref...
thats why u use CODEMATCHERS
and then search for the index
upper vapor
won't help if the local index changes
true cedar
u can search for the index to use
restive turret
If u replace the whole function u dont need it
true cedar
like match a section of code around a ldarg.1 / 2 / 3
then get what instruction it is (and the operand)
true cedar
yea but its futureproof
upper vapor
but for now, not worth it
true cedar
make a .GetLoadLocal method that returns a new codeinstruction that loads the localindex and a .StoreLoadLocal and whatnot
hearty shard
too complicated
private static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions)
{
CodeMatcher codeMatcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions)
.MatchEndForward(
new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Ldloca_S),
new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Call),
new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Isinst))
.SetInstruction(new CodeInstruction(
OpCodes.Call,
Method(typeof(Allow3114SpawnableScpPatch), nameof(IsValidSpawnableRole))));
return codeMatcher.InstructionEnumeration();
}
i match the 3 instructions and now im on Isinst instuction
then i set that instruction
its rly not that much effort
true cedar
no they're talking about copying the index
hearty shard
hm?
upper vapor
i need to extract the local index to use it
true cedar
1 sec
upper vapor
btw i'm definitely not gonna get to it soon
true cedar
i wish opcodes weren't dumb
true cedar
oh you can't FUCk
upper vapor
what the fuck
right?
upper vapor
did i ever cook?
hearty shard
u right
true cedar
public static CodeMatcher ExtractIndex(this CodeMatcher matcher, out int index)
{
OpCode opcode = matcher.Instruction.opcode;
if (opcode == OpCodes.Ldloc_0 || opcode == OpCodes.Stloc_0)
{
index = 0;
}
else if (opcode == OpCodes.Ldloc_1 || opcode == OpCodes.Stloc_1)
{
index = 1;
}
else if (opcode == OpCodes.Ldloc_2 || opcode == OpCodes.Stloc_2)
{
index = 2;
}
else if (opcode == OpCodes.Ldloc_3 || opcode == OpCodes.Stloc_3)
{
index = 3;
}
else if (opcode == OpCodes.Ldloc || opcode == OpCodes.Stloc || opcode == OpCodes.Ldloca ||
opcode == OpCodes.Ldloc_S || opcode == OpCodes.Stloc_S || opcode == OpCodes.Ldloca_S)
{
index = (int)matcher.Instruction.operand;
}
else
{
throw new InvalidOperationException("Current instruction must be a opcode that uses a local index";
}
return matcher;
}
yeah i've thought of that
true cedar
if the geniuses behind microsoft just made the opcodes a fucking enum
true cedar
literally u can give enums specific values
and add extensions to them
so there is no reason to make them structs wtf
hearty shard
sob
true cedar
thats kinda why i want to rewrite harmony
would be wonderful to make my own not stupid opcode class
OR BETTER YET IF THEY HAD FUCKING PROPER UNION TYPES
true cedar
oh ik
problem is that if they ever added union types
it'd probably be like f#'s union types
upper vapor
you can hack them with records
true cedar
which are incredibly fucked
icy knoll
https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/blob/18a527bcc1f0bdaf542d8b9a189c50068615b4...
used by 19 people? crazy
upper vapor
where did you get that number from
upper vapor
sob
icy knoll
where did you get that number from
in the image
random scaffold
```csharp
public static CodeMatcher ExtractIndex(this CodeMatcher matcher, out i...
else if
switch joke
true cedar
switch joke
u cant do switch
hearty shard
u cant do switch
damn
icy knoll
i wish you could do switches based on that kind of stuff, or based on what flags exist inside of smth also
random scaffold
u cant do switch
public static CodeMatcher ExtractIndex(this CodeMatcher matcher, out int index)
{
switch (matcher.Instruction.opcode)
{
case OpCodes.Ldloc_0:
case OpCodes.Stloc_0:
{
index = 0;
break;
}
case OpCodes.Ldloc_1:
case OpCodes.Stloc_1:
{
index = 1;
break;
}
case OpCodes.Ldloc_2:
case OpCodes.Stloc_2:
{
index = 2;
break;
}
case OpCodes.Ldloc_3:
case OpCodes.Stloc_3:
{
index = 3;
break;
}
case OpCodes.Ldloc:
case OpCodes.Stloc:
case OpCodes.Ldloca:
case OpCodes.Ldloc_S:
case OpCodes.Stloc_S:
case OpCodes.Ldloca_S:
{
index = (int)matcher.Instruction.operand;
break;
}
default:
{
throw new InvalidOperationException("Current instruction must be a opcode that uses a local index";
}
}
return matcher;
}
fully can
unique crane
Thats just a static property no?
true cedar
yea
grand flower
Can't do a pattern matching switch?
grand flower
F
unique crane
GPT once again did not cook well...
hearty shard
stupid error
me when not constant value
hearty shard
tulip juniper
vagrant lantern
vagrant lantern
guys What PlayerRoles ฤฐs deleted ?
or exiled problem?
or I'm dumb?
sorry for plugin name
olive falcon
guys What PlayerRoles ฤฐs deleted ?
reference assembly-csharp
vagrant lantern
reference assembly-csharp
um
vagrant lantern
from a guy
true cedar
why arent they enums?
my guess
is that because some opcodes are made up of effectively two parts
they didn't want opcodes that weren't to be made up of two parts too
restive turret
It's OpCode.
young phoenix
is there a way to detect when scp-3114 changes skin?
true cedar
It's OpCode.
huh
grand flower
through patching, probs
true cedar
The is enums for opcodes
opcode is a struct not an enum
restive turret
Yes i know but there is an enum too
true cedar
is it a harmony one
true cedar
Yes i know but there is an enum too
like do u have a link to what enum ur talking about
restive turret
Not on pc ask tomorrow
grand flower
also
you can defo make a switch with the right enum
OpCodeValues
if you publicize it heh
true cedar
if you publicize it heh
is that stdlib or harmony
grand flower
System.Reflection.Emit
hearty shard
๐
true cedar
although i would love some very specific dictionary methods
IN PARTICULAR
why is there no swap method
for stuff like this
if (dictionary.Swap(key, value, out var oldValue))
{
oldValue.CleanUp();
}
being able to wipe out an entire method and overwrite it with the IL I want is bliss
true cedar
being able to wipe out an entire method and overwrite it with the IL I want is b...
how many methods are u wiping out wtf
grand flower
just needed to return a value instead of conditionally multiplying it first
once I'm done with actual work I'll probably hunt down other ways to make 48 player servers run @ 30TPS minimum on limited resources
true cedar
```csharp
if (dictionary.Swap(key, value, out var oldValue))
{
oldValue.Clea...
ALSO if we had CollectionsMarshal i could make this only one op too but nooo
hearty shard
ALSO if we had CollectionsMarshal i could make this only one op too but nooo
wtf is that
true cedar
unsafe operations on collections
hearty shard
I want to murder you!
true cedar
WHAT THE HELL
hearty shard
UwU
worthy rune
@scenic trout left a review https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/pull/152
upper pike
Text toys aren't detected by raycasts or RaycastHit are they?
grand flower
shouldn't be
unique crane
Text toys aren't detected by raycasts or `RaycastHit` are they?
They are on different layer on server
upper pike
They are on different layer on server
Damn, so there's no way to tell if the player is looking at a text toy?
upper pike
Ngl, i forgot layermask was a thing
grand flower
server written error about System.Collections
send the error
unique crane
Any higher version than 4.8.X is not guarantee to work
grand flower
might be able to get away with using .net standard 2.1 max for a dependency but I doubt you can make a plugin in anything but 4.8
random scaffold
Any higher version than 4.8.X is not guarantee to work
im wanna c# 13 by default bruh
unique crane
Edit csproj
random scaffold
each times find project in files and edit csproj
unique crane
Then make project template for SL plugins
unique crane
On NWAPI you couldn't say that
1984
grand flower
Outside of the FpcServerPositionDistributor are there any known hot paths for servers
grand flower
although I do have an idea I wanna try next
tick aggregation
probably more around the time I run out of other avenues I can try though
worn gull
public static bool HasKeycardPermission(
this Player player,
DoorPermissionFlags permissions,
bool requiresAllPermissions = false)
{
if (player.HasEffect<AmnesiaVision>())
return false;
return requiresAllPermissions
? player.Items.Any(item =>
item is KeycardItem keycard && keycard.Base.GetPermissions(player as IDoorPermissionRequester)
.HasFlag(permissions))
: player.Items.Any(item =>
item is KeycardItem keycard &&
(keycard.Base.GetPermissions(player as IDoorPermissionRequester) & permissions) != 0);
}```
Hi! Why is that if I have a ChaosKeycard then it returns false but with anything else keycard true?
restive turret
item.Base
worn gull
Found it ๐
icy knoll
C# should have a has keyword to get properties that you know may exist smh
restive turret
restive turret
C# should have a `has` keyword to get properties that you know may exist smh
propose this and it will come in like 5 years
upper vapor
each times find project in files and edit csproj
Just create an SDK-style template for yourself
royal mica
I don't understand what you mean
I think they want the same thing as keycard is { IsCustom: true } but with has and it doesn't need to have those properties
so like in JS you can just do keycard[AmmoType]
and just ball it keycard has { AmmoType: AmmoType.Something }
which is obviously false cause keycard doesn't have AmmoType
grand flower
mfw C# is a statically typed language and doesn't have dynamically typed language features
restive turret
Just use dynamic then
icy knoll
I think they want the same thing as `keycard is { IsCustom: true }` but with `ha...
yes this is exactly what i want, which i dont think is possible rn :c
royal mica
I do not think it'll be tbh, as others stated, it is a dynamic language feature
You should type check and cast
grand flower
Just use dynamic then<:Fear:1172595228193067138>
unique crane
Outside of the FpcServerPositionDistributor are there any known hot paths for se...
30 dummies
Note that this is dev build sooo
Yea
worthy rune
btw is that creategame or dedicated server
worthy rune
interesting that the cullingSubcontroller is that expensive
grand flower
on the server?
unique crane
worthy rune
its required to animate the hitboxes
unique crane
^
grand flower
considering the fact cheaters clearing don't give a damn about the hitboxes, I'm being brutally honest: why?
SL isn't a competitive esports shooter
Why not stop at a simple capsule collider check
worthy rune
uuh
unique crane
Perhaps we should add check if there is any event handler registered before firing "every frame events"
worthy rune
Eves fault
worthy rune
do you still have that open, how expensive is the animator if you change the role of all the dummies to SCP049
iirc scp049s hitbox is a single capsule
worthy rune
patch out the whole hitbox animations on the server
you can but i believe you wont get much gains
no i think you just have todo 1.2.3.4.5
grand flower
any gain is a good gain atp
if it doesn't affect gameplay i'm pretty much throwing it out
worthy rune
it depends i know for humans you will have to deal with head hitboxes and what not
grand flower
does the client let the server know what hitbox it hit
worthy rune
dont think so
unique crane
icy knoll
You should type check and cast
me when some classes require a type generic to simply get some simple data
unique crane
wtf
How is getSpeed slower than raycast
(pretty sure that grounded use raycast)
Oh I see why
grand flower
dont think so
any chance of NW simplifying the shooting netcode in the future
because it's wildly overkill for a casual game like SL
games like Valorant don't even simulate animations on the server until a shot is made in the direction of the player
worthy rune
any chance of NW simplifying the shooting netcode in the future
i cant really speak for NW
grand flower
fair enough
just that i'm looking through it all and just thinking that the codebase would fit a more competitive game better than SL
and SL's needs don't justify the performance hits
worthy rune
i had a look and hitreg is fully server side, client only sends their pos/rot and main target pos/rot
grand flower
bummer
I can probably still simplify the logic
calculate where the player's head would be approximately based on their pitch
additionally the backtracker stuff actually moves players which does transform updates etc
would be cheaper to just use the saved backtracked position/rotation and bounds to determine if it would plausibly hit
and then the player would just report the hit (like it already does) giving the server a very cheap way to check
grand flower
i had a look and hitreg is fully server side, client only sends their pos/rot an...
Can you tell me what the name of the hitreg message is
Just so I can take note and put it on my optimization patches list
worthy rune
ShotBacktrackData
random scaffold
send the error
[ERROR] [LabApi] System.TypeLoadException: Could not load type of field 'Sex.Core.Plugin:_handlers' (1) due to: Could not load file or assembly 'System.Collections, Version=8.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its dependencies.
at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.RuntimeType.GetConstructors_native(System.RuntimeType,System.Reflection.BindingFlags)
at System.RuntimeType.GetConstructors_internal (System.Reflection.BindingFlags bindingAttr, System.RuntimeType reflectedType) [0x00008] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.RuntimeType.GetConstructorCandidates (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags bindingAttr, System.Reflection.CallingConventions callConv, System.Type[] types, System.Boolean allowPrefixLookup) [0x00047] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.RuntimeType.GetConstructors (System.Reflection.BindingFlags bindingAttr) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.RuntimeType.GetDefaultConstructor () [0x0002c] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceMono (System.Boolean nonPublic, System.Boolean wrapExceptions) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceSlow (System.Boolean publicOnly, System.Boolean wrapExceptions, System.Boolean skipCheckThis, System.Boolean fillCache) [0x00009] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceDefaultCtor (System.Boolean publicOnly, System.Boolean skipCheckThis, System.Boolean fillCache, System.Boolean wrapExceptions, System.Threading.StackCrawlMark& stackMark) [0x00027] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.Activator.CreateInstance (System.Type type, System.Boolean nonPublic, System.Boolean wrapExceptions) [0x00020] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.Activator.CreateInstance (System.Type type, System.Boolean nonPublic) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at System.Activator.CreateInstance (System.Type type) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
at LabApi.Loader.PluginLoader.InstantiatePlugins (System.Type[] types, System.Reflection.Assembly assembly, System.String filePath) [0x0001c] in <bea7f403b90e4786abd99fa819db9853>:0
at LabApi.Loader.PluginLoader.LoadPlugins (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] files) [0x000ed] in <bea7f403b90e4786abd99fa819db9853>:0
nice plugin name
make sure you put System.Collections.dll into your LabAPI\dependencies\global folder
random scaffold
make sure you put System.Collections.dll into your `LabAPI\dependencies\global` ...
where i can get this .dll?
grand flower
Build your plugin it'll be in your build folder
if you use it
uh wait
what .NET version are you using
random scaffold
all files
random scaffold
what .NET version are you using
8
grand flower
yeah nah
random scaffold
?
grand flower
that won't work
you gotta target .NET Fx 4.8 or potentially .NET Standard 2.1 (and that's already unsure)
royal mica
(You do not need to change from dotnet8, just change target)
random scaffold
royal mica
Edit the .csproj and just add <TargetFramework>net48</TargetFramework> in the PropertyGroup
grand flower
my new goal is pretty much gonna be dumbing down the entirety of that stuff
alright todo list:
- Throw out the whole animation stuff on the server (CullingSubcontroller)
- Patch the backtracker stuff not to move players, but instead use some sort of proxy capsule/bounds check. Idk how I'll patch it yet but I'll figure it out. This sort of thing is easier done in the original codebase lol.
- Patch hitreg to determine if it was headshot or not based on approximate position of the player's head instead of hitting the hitboxes directly. As well as using capsule bounds for plausibility. Don't care about being accurate or not, not an esports shooter.
- FpcMotor.GetSpeed is evil
grand flower
also open ended question but do grenades affect the same gameobject multiple times in ExplosionGrenade.Explode
Physics.OverlapSphere returns Collider[] but some pickups seem to have multiple colliders?
random scaffold
how can I make it possible to open csproj by double-clicking on the project name as in net 8?
upper vapor
Damageable cache list or something
upper vapor
how can I make it possible to open csproj by double-clicking on the project name...
Use Rider
random scaffold
no
upper vapor
Actually that doesn't work
random scaffold
Actually that doesn't work
bruh
upper vapor
Just select it and press the keybind
unique crane
so it can trigger multiple times per pickup if it has multiple colliders
You might be right there
funny
upper pike
How come my Ubuntu installation of JetBrains Rider only goes up to C# 9.0 while my Windows laptop has the latest version if they're both 2025.1.2
upper vapor
Doyou have the new sdk
random scaffold
how i can change .net framework 4.8 c# version for all projects?
frail zinc
how i can change .net framework 4.8 c# version for all projects?
In your ide settings
random scaffold
impossible
frail zinc
impossible
Why ?
random scaffold
choosen automatically
frail zinc
Wdym ?
random scaffold
terse bone
just modify .csproj <LangVersion>latest</LangVersion>
upper pike
upper pike
Thing is, if i set it to c# 11, then both c#11 and #10 show up as an option in the IDE
But it just refuses to compile
upper pike
No I don't
upper vapor
Cam you show your csproj?
upper vapor
No I don't
Thats the issue then
restive turret
Bruh
If you dont have the sdk why would you think targeting to that langLevel would work
upper pike
Because I forgot I had to delete it earlier
And Linux doesn't exactly work perfectly with dotnet
upper vapor
I would create rawest windows VM for c#
upper vapor
seems like a bit of a stretch
icy knoll
me when i make sl plugins on macos
unique crane
me when i make sl plugins on macos
Why
restive turret
And Linux doesn't exactly work perfectly with dotnet
there is an installscript ๐ญ and some distrib has package for these
unique crane
Whyyy
icy knoll
pain and suffering
it's easy
icy knoll
macos in general
macos is great
restive turret
nah
icy knoll
only problem is i cant test til im on windows lol
icy knoll
it feels nicer ok
restive turret
because you paid for it?
icy knoll
does the word job scare you by chance? /j
restive turret
nah
icy knoll
ok good
upper vapor
does the word job scare you by chance? /j
icy knoll
so many people tell me to censor it smh
restive turret
but it feels nicer to woke up at 13
unique crane
icy knoll
are you woke
i am!
random scaffold
Can I use different fonts
no
teal junco
random scaffold
where i can get it?
modern lark
Found this file in C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_system.valuetuple_cc7b13ffcd2ddd51_4.0.15912.0_none_d1891ed46ba50223
not sure if it's still compatible
hearty shard
where i can get it?
plugin prob isnt on net framework 4.8
random scaffold
Found this file in C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_system.valuetuple_cc7b13ffcd2ddd51_4....
where this?
System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'System.Runtime.InteropServices.RuntimeInformation, Version=4.0.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its dependencies.
restive turret
im used sqlite
use DBLite
random scaffold
use DBLite
celest thorn
Im honestly loosing my mind
- name: Download SCP SL References
uses: killers0992/scpsl.downloadfiles@master
with:
branch: 'public'
filesToDownload: "UnityEngine.dll,UnityEngine.AnimationModule.dll,UnityEngine.AssetBundleModule.dll,UnityEngine.CoreModule.dll,UnityEngine.IMGUIModule.dll,UnityEngine.PhysicsModule.dll,Mirror.dll,LabApi.dll,CommandSystem.Core.dll,Assembly-CSharp.dll,Unity.TextMeshPro.dll"
It doesn't find LabApi even tho it should, only missing one
restive turret
how i can use it?
random scaffold
public static void AddSeason(DB_Season season)
{
using var database = new LiteDatabase(DataBaseName);
var SeasonCollection = database.GetCollection<DB_Season>(DB_SeasonName);
if (SeasonCollection == null)
return;
SeasonCollection.Upsert(season);
}
why here null check?
how then i can make from null to exists
restive turret
it automaticly creates a new I think
upper vapor
Im honestly loosing my mind
```c#
- name: Download SCP SL References
u...
try installing through nuget
restive turret
it automaticly creates a new I think
creates new ye, null check for that doesnt need
acoustic cosmos
How do you check if a player died cause of PocketCorroding
It's just UniversalDamageHandler, this was the only solution I found lol
foreach (var effect in args.Player.ActiveEffects)
{
if (effect.name == "PocketCorroding")
{
}
}
But this is not 100% accurate
upper vapor
if (effect is PocketCorroding)
acoustic cosmos
True but isn't there a better way
random scaffold
It's just UniversalDamageHandler, this was the only solution I found lol
```cs
...
player have activeeffects?
acoustic cosmos
Yes
regal lakeBOT
acoustic cosmos
I suppose I can go
if (args.DamageHandler is not FirearmDamageHandler)
{
foreach (var effect in args.Player.ActiveEffects)
{
if (effect is PocketCorroding)
{
}
}
}
You might die getting shot in the pocket dimension
hearty shard
if (args.Player.ActiveEffects.Any(ef => ef is PocketCorroding))
could also do the job
soft turtle
I suppose I can go
```cs
if (args.DamageHandler is not FirearmDamageHandler)
{
...
if (args.Player.HasEffect<PocketCorroding>())
{
}
brisk matrix
How to disable 939's aoe claw and lunge damage?
acoustic cosmos
?```cs
public void OnScp939Attacking(Scp939AttackingEventArgs args)
{
args.Damage = 0f;
}
tribal dagger
is the returning of the Dedicated Server player object intended for Player.List?
ive been using it for a long time and i havent seen it return the server itself
but now im starting to get the object
hearty shard
is the returning of the Dedicated Server player object intended for Player.List?
use ReadyList
or Player.Get()
unique crane
You can use ReadyList or Players.Get()
grand flower
You'll probably end up patching a handful of stuff dealing with the host player
hearty shard
You'll probably end up patching a handful of stuff dealing with the host player
Never using Player.List has fixed it entirely for me
grand flower
It does reduce it by a lot but we still got some exceptions that kicked the dedicated server player
Ended up just patching out anything that could kick the dedicated server player
Been running good ever since
hearty shard
It does reduce it by a lot but we still got some exceptions that kicked the dedi...
Idk what u were doing then
grand flower
no idea
couldn't figure it out, so I just patched the methods that were throwing exceptions to ignore the host player
severe cave
Is there a method for a player to check if it is in a specified room or not?
grand flower
Player.Room?
severe cave
Player.Room?
Player.Room == Room.Get? I don't know if it is the right way to do this
grand flower
What room are you looking for
severe cave
GateA or GateB
grand flower
Also got a question about voice chat, sending voice packets to/from "human" SCPs to actual SCPs, but the voice ends up being very saturated/garbled. Any idea what would cause that? I'm literally just taking the VoiceMessage and sending it back to other players.
hearty shard
Also got a question about voice chat, sending voice packets to/from "human" SCPs...
Uhh
Its fine for me
R u modifying it
grand flower
if (Player.Room is {Name: RoomNames.GateA or RoomNames.GateB}) probs works
hearty shard
Or delaying it or anything
grand flower
R u modifying it
nope, just copying the data over and sending it
severe cave
Room.Name <a:PI_Shrug:701648619056660533>
I tried that
hearty shard
I tried that
andd?
severe cave
Didn't work
grand flower
yeah guess I could use the existing message, was just that way when I saw the code
hearty shard
yeah guess I could use the existing message, was just that way when I saw the co...
Yea modifying it isnt needed
Well
Copying
grand flower
That wouldn't cause the static though right
hearty shard
no clue
It works for me
But not for you
and i dont copy i just change the type to proximity rather than scpchat
grand flower
for human SCPs I send it via roundsummary to SCPs
actually I sent it via roundsummary both ways
severe cave
It works for me
Than there is something wrong in my code if it works for you lemme check
hearty shard
Than there is something wrong in my code if it works for you lemme check
Not you
Talking to the other guy
grand flower
@severe cave send your code
hearty shard
and yea show code
severe cave
Room.Name <a:PI_Shrug:701648619056660533>
from this logic
hearty shard
Room can be null
severe cave
Room can be null
then player.Room != null this should work?
languid temple
playing games again
grand flower
ahh I think I might know why
hearty shard
Ur a gamer?
grand flower
I don't prevent the regular voice packet from being received
maybe it's causing garbled nonsense from being duplicated
hearty shard
I don't prevent the regular voice packet from being received
That would do it
languid temple
Ur a gamer?
Me? Never.
grand flower
easy fix
hearty shard
Me? Never.
damn
languid temple
I'm only posing as one
languid temple
what the
hearty shard
whats up
grand flower
yeah that was it
works fine now
dunno why prox chat affects this even when the SCP isn't in proximity of the player but w/e
severe cave
Can someone tell me what these all mean? What is a hazardous environment?
severe cave
thanks
normal pawn
Is there now a way to send multi line hints? Iโve tried several ways but none of them worked
restive turret
xx\nhh
hearty shard
yea just \n
icy knoll
also if you want hints to overlap for whatever reason you can just do <line-height=0%>\n</line-height>
gilded thicket
fWHO WANT 10K DOLLAR
hearty shard
fWHO WANT 10K DOLLAR
Give it
severe cave
fWHO WANT 10K DOLLAR
Gamble it
hearty shard
sry i stole it
Damn
grand flower
anyone else get a weird bug with 173 sometimes moving silently?
terse bone
haven't seen that
those restrictions on custominfo are wild, no wonder i haven't done something with it in like 2 years
this just shouldn't reject Xname\n<color=#DC143C>disappointed</color>
grand flower
They're pretty useless
gilded thicket
this just shouldn't reject `Xname\n<color=#DC143C>disappointed</color>`
color is very restricted
grand flower
pretty annoying when you can just apply a server tag with color
hearty shard
Exiled has a list
hearty shard
pretty annoying when you can just apply a server tag with color
huh
grand flower
arbitrary restrictions be like
grand flower
did NW say why it was restricted
grand flower
why am i not surprised
grand flower
Obviously not
I just have very specific views on the whole global badges & VSR and more
off topic for this channel anyway so I won't bring them here heh
hearty shard
I just have very specific views on the whole global badges & VSR and more
Theyre trying to rework it
So stuff can be allowed more
While still keeping nw stuff special
grand flower
fair
hearty shard
(aka they wanna make it the background instead of the color of the text)
although
Its been in work for a while so idk when that happens
grand flower
I'm just mostly not impressed when vanity stuff like this impacts modding
hearty shard
I'm just mostly not impressed when vanity stuff like this impacts modding
eh its fine
at least imo idrc
can still use the group colors + black and white
(just no group colors for ne specific ones)
thats mostly fine
grand flower
My POV is that SL is a game inspired from a gamemode on a sandbox moddable game, so it stings when modding is affected by certain choices like this
true cedar
My POV is that SL is a game inspired from a gamemode on a sandbox moddable game,...
i feel like this take kind of ignores the shit nw has given us
grand flower
Doesn't mean I don't appreciate some of the stuff we get with SL
terse bone
color is very restricted
I'm using these specific colors
The problem is with rejection rules, you can't mix untagged text (text with role color) with tagged text (text with custom allowed color) in custominfo ig
And role colors aren't allowed in custominfo...
grand flower
Has anyone succeeded in patching the Player ctor to get rid of the duplicate key exception spam
grand flower
nvm got it
unique crane
Has anyone succeeded in patching the Player ctor to get rid of the duplicate key...
I would rather if you could give us replication steps..
upper vapor
I would rather if you could give us replication steps..
I think they're referring to duplicate user IDs
Dummies for example
grand flower
Nah
upper vapor
Huh
grand flower
Basically it seems like Player.AddPlayer is called multiple times
Which is called by ReferenceHub.Start
I'm trying to figure out why that's the case
ReferenceHub.GetHashCode is the gameObject so the only way I see this happening is if the game object had multiple reference hubs applied to it
Either way, the way I fixed it was replacing new Player() in Player.AddPlayer with Player.Get()
Player.Get will call the player ctor if it doesn't exist in the player dictionary
I might have a hunch as to why it happens, gimme ten mins
grand flower
I can't see a reason why it'd happen, but it does
The exception is mostly on player connection
Don't have any specific repro steps
[log] ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. Key: ReferenceHub (Name='Player [connId=22]', NetID='58326', PlayerID='54')
[log] at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].TryInsert (TKey key, TValue value, System.Collections.Generic.InsertionBehavior behavior) [0x0015a] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[log] at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].Add (TKey key, TValue value) [0x00000] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[log] at LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player..ctor (ReferenceHub referenceHub) [0x0000b] in <bea7f403b90e4786abd99fa819db9853>:0
[log] at LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player.AddPlayer (ReferenceHub referenceHub) [0x00008] in <bea7f403b90e4786abd99fa819db9853>:0
[log] at (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.Action`1[ReferenceHub].invoke_void_T(ReferenceHub)
[log] at ReferenceHub.Start () [0x00009] in <8db1ca0fe9a6484084cda320b139932c>:0
it was something i looked into and i believe it could be caused by calling Player.Get() before the ReferenceHub.Start(). theres an internal PR for implementing away that avoids recreating the wrapper for those cases
grand flower
it was something i looked into and i believe it could be caused by calling Playe...
Doesn't Start run immediately after initialization for an active component?
worthy rune
that might be awake
upper vapor
Doesn't Start run immediately after initialization for an active component?
that's Awake
Start is called on the first frame after the object is enabled
leaving time to set properties on components
grand flower
fun
unique crane
Hmmmmm
unique crane
```
[log] ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. K...
Do you subscribe to on connecting event or something?
Like that one that fires when player wants to join
royal mica
Do you subscribe to on connecting event or something?
I suspect it is cause we are using the CustomDataStore
I encounter this as well and my suspicion lies in fetching the Player CustomDataStore in OnPlayerJoined
grand flower
Do you subscribe to on connecting event or something?
PreAuthenticating?
unique crane
Yes
royal mica
I was on a train at the time so I cannot test it
unique crane
Perhaps it has to do something with it
grand flower
hmmm it doesn't give a reference hub
unique crane
Do you get the Player object some other way?
grand flower
don't think so
upper vapor
I was on a train at the time so I cannot test it
vonat :3
upper vapor
bruh moment
normal pawn
Okay so line 1\nline 2 doesn't work in custom info. Any other ideas?
Also pasting this text from notepad even not matching regex
brisk matrix
Okay so `line 1\nline 2` doesn't work in custom info. Any other ideas?
New line symbol
brisk matrix
Also pasting this text from notepad even not matching regex
Oh
idk, but everything works for me
pseudo hawk
My POV is that SL is a game inspired from a gamemode on a sandbox moddable game,...
Do I dare say the name?
upper vapor
what