plugins-dev-chat

[worthy rune]

OnPlayerLeft is called from ReferenceHub.OnDestroy and before its removed from the cache so it should be grabbing the correct player wrapper instance and the player shouldnt be destroyed at that point

[hearty shard]

private static bool Prefix(Intercom __instance, ReferenceHub hub, ref bool __result)
        {
            __result = false;

            if (_proximityChatModule == null)
            {
                CustomModule.TryGetModule(out _proximityChatModule);
                if (_proximityChatModule == null)
                    return true;
            }

            if (!CheckRange(hub, __instance) || VoiceChatMutes.IsMuted(hub, true))
                return false;

            if (_proximityChatModule.ToggledHubs.Contains(hub) || hub.roleManager.CurrentRole is HumanRole)
            {
                if (hub.roleManager.CurrentRole is IVoiceRole voiceRole)
                    __result = voiceRole.VoiceModule.ServerIsSending;
            }

            if (!__result)
                return false;

            PlayerUsingIntercomEventArgs ev = new(hub, Intercom.State);
            LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.OnUsingIntercom(ev);
            __result = ev.IsAllowed;
            return false;
        }

        private static bool CheckRange(ReferenceHub hub, Intercom intercom)
        {
            if (hub.roleManager.CurrentRole is not IFpcRole fpcRole)
                return false;

            return (fpcRole.FpcModule.Position - intercom._worldPos).sqrMagnitude < intercom._rangeSqr;
        }

definitely over done

but still

intercom for scps :D

[worthy rune]

maybe, in the playerLeftEvent try logging the player like this "${ev.Player}" and see if it comes up as destroyed

[celest thorn]

it does say that the gameobject tho is == null to false

so referencehub still exist

[worthy rune]

also log before and after counts when you remove(or just log the bool returned)

[celest thorn]

yea i did

and it says

1

then after sanitizing 0

so yea something was going on

Wait

@worthy rune could it be that the player is dying?

and it triggers the dying event?

[worthy rune]

most likely, it also triggers role changed too

[celest thorn]

That could be why?

so if i just add on my respawn logic

x.ReferenceHub == null

it shouldn't

[worthy rune]

it might still be non destroyed at that point

even if OnDestroy has already gone through, unity waits until the end of the frame before flagging as destroyed

[celest thorn]

let me test

so yea i will add a flag

oh wait

i can actually do

if (player.Role == RoleTypeId.Destroyed)

[worthy rune]

yeah that should work

[celest thorn]

yep it works

[hearty shard]

oh yeah riptide

[celest thorn]

Oh nope

it doesn't

lol

[hearty shard]

how would you go on fixing Ghostly effect in plugins that allow players to keep effects

cuz ghostly breaks client side

only way is to ig remove it and readd it?

😭

[worthy rune]

sounds like a base game issue, make an issue and someone can take alook

[worthy rune]

thats probably the only way atm

[hearty shard]

yeahh

Cuz client has to get told of it

And client doesnt expect it to stay after role change

and to allow 1344 to be kept i need to patch the item giver thing probably

[grand flower]

How functional is 3144 to NW

Just had to disable it because it would break servers

[hearty shard]

wat

3114 or 1344

[grand flower]

3114

[hearty shard]

The item or the scp

skeleton works fine for me

[grand flower]

Disguising issues, invisible to clients sometimes, and servers breaking after round restart due to broken ragdolls

[hearty shard]

On a modded server and on vanilla

[grand flower]

odd

[hearty shard]

Thats

Ik the cause btw

Of that

You are using Player.List somewhere

And telling server smth you shouldnt

[grand flower]

nope and we patched that

[hearty shard]

Well

Thats how i caused it

[grand flower]

yeah it is a cause for sure

[hearty shard]

You send server a player update

[grand flower]

but 3114 kept having issues after all those fixes so idk

[hearty shard]

well

you issue

cuz i fixed it with removing server host from getting network msg about scale

[wispy dirge]

how would i make the server restart after every round?

since my coding breaks the server after every round r estart

[royal mica]

trigger rnr after round end?

Or you need hard restart?

[wispy dirge]

hard restart as in?

[hearty shard]

😭

[hearty shard]

That is hard restart

Or should be

It reloads plugins etc

[unique crane]

rnr is hard restart yea

[hearty shard]

Yes

[royal mica]

Ah

[wispy dirge]

how do i trigger rnr?

[royal mica]

ServerStatic.StopNextRound = ServerStatic.NextRoundAction.Restart;

[wispy dirge]

i dont want to use Server.ExecuteCommand("rnr"); since i ehard like thats unoptimized or smthn

[unique crane]

this

[royal mica]

I run the game in Ptero and sometimes the commands are eaten and the server doesn't recognise it

[hearty shard]

Its just never good to use commands

[wispy dirge]

exactly same with me

[unique crane]

Just see what the command does

xd

and copy paste the code

[royal mica]

idk why multiadmin ptero just eats the command but it is so random

[hearty shard]

But yea you can check commands for what they do, but calling the commands is extra steps

[hearty shard]

Multiadmin...?

Why not localadmin?

[royal mica]

not multiadmin, the default that ships

[wispy dirge]

the server already suffers enough with my shitty coding

[royal mica]

just me not remember which is used nowadays

yeah LocalAdmin v. 2.5.16

[young phoenix]

how can I disable/lock win conditions and trigger a win myself when a condition is met?

[grand flower]

OnServerRoundEnding

you can prevent it and change the winning team too

[young phoenix]

so I just set IsAllowed to false, how do I trigger one then?

[grand flower]

Don't set IsAllowed to false

although

sec

Round.End()

[worn gull]

How can I do this?

[young phoenix]

thanks, is there a way to say which team won?

[static meteor]

Probably a harmony patch

[grand flower]

Modify it in OnServerRoundEnding()

[static meteor]

I think cedmod does that if you want to look

[young phoenix]

got it thanks

[worn gull]

Yeah I tried that but if I want to make it look like in the picture then it just replace the name with ...

If I size it to 15 it works but as I see on the picture it works with the original size

[wispy dirge]

is there a way to remove the alarm from EZ red room?

[static meteor]

I dont believe so

[wispy dirge]

is it some client sided thing then?

or is it just like not accesable?

or not known

either way just wondering

[worthy rune]

you can access it from the server and do what ever you want, but none of the changes will sync with the client

[wispy dirge]

ah

[hearty shard]

when do you make everything server sided

trust

cant go wrong

[worthy rune]

[wispy dirge]

isnt making everything server sided good for like preventing cheats or smthn

since its all managed by server

idk what im talking about

i dont know shit about networking 😭

[hearty shard]

Errr

[static meteor]

would mean alot more load on the server though

[hearty shard]

Also

Everything means everything possible

including textures

[wispy dirge]

sending textures to client

[hearty shard]

Um

Well sometimes client needs to control smth

But server should be validating it 99% of the time

[wispy dirge]

i am not a professional network person 🙏

[hearty shard]

The 1% is when its me (omw to do horrific things)

[wispy dirge]

scared to even add Mirror as a reference 😭

[hearty shard]

Rly useful sometimes

[wispy dirge]

oh shit i do have it as a reference

dont even know what i use it for

also how do i get a rooms gameobject from a RoomLightController?

trying to attach carmelldansen to a room
#serverhost-cat message

[hearty shard]

.gameObject

[wispy dirge]

yeah but

duh

but like it just doesnt work

[hearty shard]

Room.Get or smth

[wispy dirge]

light.Room.gameObject.transform;

[wispy dirge]

ok 😭

[hearty shard]

Whats the issue

Though

[wispy dirge]

it just doesnt work

idk

no error

[hearty shard]

Show code

[wispy dirge]

foreach (var light in RoomLightController.Instances)
{
if (light.Room.Name == RoomName.EzRedroom)
{
light.gameObject.AddComponent<RainbowLight>();

    AudioPlayer audioPlayer = AudioPlayer.CreateOrGet($"{Time.timeSinceLevelLoad}", onIntialCreation: (p) =>
    {
        p.transform.parent = light.Room.gameObject.transform;
        Speaker speaker = p.AddSpeaker("disco", isSpatial: true, minDistance: 5f, maxDistance: 15f);
        speaker.transform.parent = light.Room.gameObject.transform;
        speaker.transform.localPosition = Vector3.zero;
    });
    audioPlayer.AddClip("carmelldansen", 3, true, false);
}

rainbowlight works

just not

audio

[hearty shard]

Err

[wispy dirge]

is my code just shit? 😭

[royal mica]

In my case, I used the second method. It is easier than creating a Harmony patch

@worn gull

[young phoenix]

how can I disable ntf/chaos respawn waves?

[wispy dirge]

there are some other ways but you could give all waves -50 tokens

which will prevent them from spawning naturally but they can be spawned with wv spawn ntf/chaos still etc

since wv spawn doesnt check for tokens

[young phoenix]

what class/method?

[wispy dirge]

ill check 1 sec

[worn gull]

I will try to do it, thanks

[grand flower]

OnWaveSpawning

[wispy dirge]

no idea but try like RespawnWave or smthn im not sure

[grand flower]

Set IsAllowed to false

[wispy dirge]

that denys wv spawn tho i think

[young phoenix]

doesn't have anything related

[wispy dirge]

try NtfWave?

[young phoenix]

it would be nice if I still could control it, instead of denying everything

[wispy dirge]

there was some sort of exiled thing for it but i dont know im too used to exiled 😭

LabApi.Features.Wrappers.RespawnWaves.PrimaryMtfWave.RespawnTokens = -50;

that should work for MTF

i think

[young phoenix]

thanks I'll try it out

[hearty shard]

Surely theres a better way 😭

[wispy dirge]

could do isallowed on the event but that fucks over wv spawn 💔

idk if there is a way to stop them from naturally spawning

maybe the event has a bool like IsNatural or smthn

[young phoenix]

question, does d class always spawn as chaos conscript when they escape?

[hearty shard]

yes

well

Unless theyre cuffed

Then its specialist ntf

[unique crane]

No its private xd

[young phoenix]

thanks

[hearty shard]

Errr

errrrr

im proving you wrong

[unique crane]

"err errrr"

Hmm yes yes

Cant argue with that

[hearty shard]

Damn

I proved myself wrong

I cant believe youd make class d privates

Are they not good enough?

Discrimination against d boys?

[wispy dirge]

nvm fixed

[unique crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjYLY3BGDY4

[hearty shard]

Im gonna murder you

[unique crane]

You wouldnt do that

[hearty shard]

Oh okay

[grand flower]

How does one change the amount of players that will spawn in a wave

[wispy dirge]

ntfwave wrapper or smthn

there is a number for amount of ntfprivate etc

unless im wrong

[unique crane]

There is total player multiplayer

And amount of Sargents and captain(s)

Same for chaos wave

[grand flower]

awesome ty

[hearty shard]

Multiplayer is crazy

[wispy dirge]

😭

[grand flower]

So just

RespawnWaves.PrimaryMtfWave.MaxWaveSize = int.MaxValue; would be enough?

[wispy dirge]

prob

looks right

[worn gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880533488539951104/1375250528409223208/image.png?ex=6831015c&is=682fafdc&hm=87d121212e2759079e4c24535a613f36e603a90d7e73db45d84c02937482b63a&
Ported every plugin that I have to LabApi (I wanna die)

[grand flower]

8 hours doesn't sound half bad

[restive turret]

Took me probably 2 days in beta

[grand flower]

took us two weeks and there was 3 of us ;-;

[restive turret]

And i still fixing some bugs causing some issues

[grand flower]

same here hah

but we got ours stable and playable

still got some bugs but none that are critical

[restive turret]

I have to fix bunch of things since idk what bugs (the bunny)

I don't think my thing ever be stable

[true cedar]

oh you're the new brights dev

aren't you

[grand flower]

Yeah

[true cedar]

is matrix not there?

anyways have fun dredging through my code lol

[grand flower]

well, 3 on SL

[true cedar]

ah

[grand flower]

Although Matrix wasn't fully available

[grand flower]

Wasn't so bad ^^

[true cedar]

is it better quality than the rest of the codebase

i sure hope so

[grand flower]

Not sure who each piece of code belonged to tbh

One thing I will mention though is you tend to do loop until random element is acceptable a lot

instead of filtering then choosing a random item

[true cedar]

i only do that if its a small number of items that don't meet the criteria

[buoyant oyster]

I can't use CommandHandler or ICommand in my project for some reason, am I missing something?

[true cedar]

plus that requires you to convert an ienumerable to a list

and then get a random item

or make 2 passes

[worthy rune]

add a reference to CommandSystem.Core.dll

[grand flower]

I'd still go for that instead tbf

[true cedar]

eh

[buoyant oyster]

i assumed they were baked into LabApi, thanks

[grand flower]

There was only one place where it could've been bad bad so it's not a big issue anyway

[true cedar]

i did all the codematcher transpilers

[grand flower]

aye, barely touched the transpilers

did write a ton of patches and remove some existing ones that weren't needed anymore but transpilers aren't my thing heh

[true cedar]

ic

[grand flower]

Got a backlog of stuff to rewrite once we have time and there's no pressing issues to resolve

But so far so good

[true cedar]

i had a rewrite backlog too lmfaooooo

[grand flower]

I just left a buttload of todos in the codebase while I was porting/rewriting bits over

[true cedar]

i made a whole ass mega pr to implement a new custom role system, a new event system, and like a billion bug fixes and then i got burnt out and never finished it

well glhf i have to go

[grand flower]

aye, cya

[grand flower]

Uhhh question

Does null propagation not work with Unity

I'm getting some null refs that are pretty surprising

!player?.ReferenceHub?.gameObject

[true cedar]

it doesn't

[grand flower]

fucking UNITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[true cedar]

it only overrides == so that it equals null

if the internal c++ backing thing is null

[grand flower]

every day working with this god forsaken engine I understand i've made the right choice leaving it years ago

[true cedar]

c++ / ue isnt much better

rust however

[grand flower]

Never had that issue with UE

Weak object pointers when I do funky things that don't keep the object referenced by the GC, otherwise it's safe

[true cedar]

yea but you still have to deal with the fucking mess that is c++

[grand flower]

got used to it hah

I made the switch because Unity was shit in terms of networking

[true cedar]

thats like getting used to living in smogged london

[grand flower]

or well, when it had networking considering they kept deprecating everything

C# was my first language, C++ my second, I like both

[true cedar]

i hate c++ on an indescribable level

[grand flower]

to each their own and now I leave to go through the entire codebase and remove all of my fancy null propagation stuff i did

surprised most of it held up

[true cedar]

c# is just bloated to all hell

[true cedar]

you're going to eat the nres and you're going to enjoy it

[grand flower]

oh I just got sent a handful and that's how I discovered the issue

I figured I was forgetting something

[grand flower]

Player needs an IsDestroyed property like the other wrappers

mostly for latent actions

[buoyant oyster]

how do i set ncikname

idek the commands to do it ingame

[static meteor]

Player::DisplayName = "What";

[buoyant oyster]

ah

i was doing Nickname

[buoyant oyster]

is there a cap on name length?

setting my cap to 32 bc arbitrary number but idk if theres an actual cap above or below that number

[static meteor]

idk

[spice hatch]

hey can someone coach me on creating plugins

teach me the lingo

i have the creative thinking already

[buoyant oyster]

brute force it with the tutorials and example code

if u literally just

look up enough things on google you can learn the basics

[spice hatch]

im not gonna sit there and waste my energy looking up shitty made tutorials when someone here has 3 times the knowledge than the guy making the tutorial

[teal junco]

The guy who made the tutorial is probably smarter than all of us.

Look, if you don't want to do the tutorials, I don't know if this is for you.

If you're having trouble, I think we would be happy to help you set up a code environment and IDE

But I think being open to using tutorials is a good thing

[spice hatch]

no i hate tutorials

reminds me of class lectures

well the video ones at least

i can probably do a written one'

[spice hatch]

honestly i could learn by just typing the alphabet

the syntax has descriptions

[teal junco]

there are written tutorials

and you should also delve into other codebases

[upper vapor]

Set the config to restart after every round

[grand flower]

Does the floor in front of the 914 input/output doors have a weird collider?

grenades exploding at that spot don't do damage to players around it

[spice hatch]

where

not on writing lab api plugins

[buoyant oyster]

why are you here then

this is the labapi category

if youre looking for exiled stuff youre in the wrong place

[grand flower]

I think they mean there's no labapi tutorial

which would make sense considering it's barely out

[buoyant oyster]

oh

i mean

there are

[spice hatch]

why would i be talking about exiled in lab api

like what are you on about

[buoyant oyster]

if you look at the githubs there are basic tutorials and you can learn a bunch of other stuff by looking at the source for other plugins in #1336031121699377213, no ones gonna directly coach you but if you have small questions while you're learning you can just ask every now and then

mb for that assumption

[grand flower]

heck it's anywhere close to 914

no explosion damage

same next to generators

is there a way to change the trace mask so I can ignore 914/generators when blowing up a grenade?

there's a ton of things on the map that seem to just allow players to tank a grenade just because of the colliders

this thing in front of nuke too

;-;

939 room pipes too

That's annoying

[buoyant oyster]

has anyone figured out if you can actually change the behavior of the snake game yet

im looking at the dll and it kinda looks like you can but idk fs and i dont want to try unless i know its possible

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/Northwood-Studios/LabAPI/wiki

Not exactly a tutorial but it's good to get started

[teal junco]

why do you think so?

[buoyant oyster]

Snake.dll is using a network writer to sync its display to every player

idk the specifics im new to this

it has these methods and it looks like you could probably make your own minigame with snake by using UpdateDisplay and building your own SnakeDisplay object

i have no idea how to actually take advantage of things like this so thats why im asking if its worth trying so i can learn how to do it

[upper vapor]

Try sending an Rpc though the ChaosKeycardItem

Check how it writes messages

[buoyant oyster]

i uh

dont know how to do that

[upper vapor]

Decompile

Check if the player's current item is a ChaosKeycardItem (base-game)

There should be some SendRpc methods

[buoyant oyster]

I'm really not sure what you mean by base-game

[upper vapor]

The one in the namespace InventorySystem.something

Not the LabApi wrapper

[buoyant oyster]

i assume basegame means everything under SCP Secret Laboratory Dedicated Server\SCPSL_Data\Managed?

or only Assembly-CSharp

[upper vapor]

Mostly that since the game has many dependencies

The game's code is whay we refer to as base-game

[buoyant oyster]

i thought so, just wanted to clarify

[upper vapor]

Including systems like GameObject pooling (from Pooling.dll)

[upper vapor]

Yep you were correct

[buoyant oyster]

im like entirely new to C# coming from minecraft plugin and mod development in java, the apis and frameworks are super easy to use over there so im struggling a little bit here

[buoyant oyster]

how would i get this from a LabAPI Player?

[upper vapor]

Try LINQ

When you break free from j*va streams

[upper vapor]

if (player.CurrentItem?.Base is ChaosKeycardItem card)
// do something

[buoyant oyster]

i was trying to go thru player.Inventory first oops

thats a lot simpler than i was thinking it was

[upper vapor]

That would work, too
Though LabApi helps a bit lol

[slate flume]

Real talk

Hi Fel!

[buoyant oyster]

it looks possible but it seems like it means i have to figure out how to build snake packets and i dont really want to do that

hello tech!

[slate flume]

That's me 😄

[buoyant oyster]

what u doin here

idonwanna

there are public methods to send and process received snake packets

but i dont wanna mess with that it seems like a lot to tackle rn

maybe l8r

c# is def a lot more fun than java

[fresh zenith]

how do i get how often the player used SCP330?

[buoyant oyster]

wdym by that

like the number of times the player used it?

[fresh zenith]

yea

[buoyant oyster]

super easy way with no basegame would probably be to use a Dictionary or similar data type alongside PickedUpScp330 or InteractedScp330 events

[fresh zenith]

i found it nvm

[buoyant oyster]

whats the basegame way to do it

[fresh zenith]

yea its just ev.uses lmao

[buoyant oyster]

oh

lole

[fresh zenith]

for the event in LabAPI atleast

[upper vapor]

🗣️ 🗣️

[buoyant oyster]

i will admit i do miss the in depth spigot and paper javadocs

basegame got zero documentation

[fresh zenith]

for the moment. maybe someone will do some in the future

[frank flicker]

Feels like a scavenger hunt sometimes

[royal mica]

But it help you learn to not be dependent on documentation

[buoyant oyster]

i cant lie

if you know how to code its usually easy to not be dependent on documentation if the code youre looking at is good

just really inconvenient

[royal mica]

It is, especially on decompiled code since it takes extra effort to understand what is going on

and then there is code which you do not understand even with documentation

[fresh zenith]

hey uh is there a way to Enable effects like this:
plr.EnableEffect<Config.Effect>(); ?

[unique crane]

You can get the effect by its name

[fresh zenith]

do you have an small example atm?

[icy knoll]

probably Config.Effect.GetType() or smth (ill probably get evelyn angry with this or smth idk)

[fresh zenith]

well thx will be trying

i got it working on my own. thanks for the help tho

[buoyant oyster]

becoming a chaotic neutral developer and adding documentation on obfuscated code

[royal mica]

Creating a community pdb

[wispy dirge]

didnt work but server static thing worked

the server I work on is magical how some things dony work

[tribal dagger]

how to get the default color from a light controller?

Base.NetworkOverrideColor, Base.OverrideColor and OverrideLightsColor properties all return Color.Clear

[wispy dirge]

i think there is like a resetcolor thing and it outputs the color or smthn

idk

when did i turn orange

[unique crane]

Setting it to Color.Clear will reset it to the default color

[tribal dagger]

cant find it :/

[wispy dirge]

oh shi the resetcolor thing is exiled sry

i really need to look at how labapi works

[tribal dagger]

well, im not trying to reset the light color, but actually get the Color object

[wispy dirge]

😭

[tribal dagger]

which is the default

[unique crane]

Hmmm

[tribal dagger]

im trying to add a smooth transition

and i cant do that if the start color is always clear

as everything just becomes dark

[unique crane]

controller.transform.parent.GetComponentsInChildren<RoomLight>().First().LightSource.color

You need publicized assembly for it

[tribal dagger]

alright

[unique crane]

Called from the RoomLightController

[tribal dagger]

im getting InvalidOperationException: Sequence contains no elements when using First()

roomLightController.Base.transform.parent.GetComponentsInChildren<RoomLight>().First().LightSource.color

[unique crane]

Uhh try GetComponentsInChildren<RoomLight>(true)

so it includes inactive

[tribal dagger]

thats mostly working, im getting some NREs but ill figure it out

thanks!

i need to get to know how to get components, seems like a really useful skill

[hearty shard]

ok so turns out this doesnt work

ghostly on client works weird

[wheat flower]

what are you doing 💀

[hearty shard]

effect keep patch

ghostly stays bugged on client

i might just need a frame delay tbh

[wheat flower]

yeah i used frame delay when resyncing stuff

probably good

for effects specifically

🔥

[hearty shard]

ghostly and 1344 stink

ok it works

just needed frame delay

[worn gull]

If I set UnlockingGenerator IsAllowed to true still not unlocking it

[restive turret]

ye bc the permission for it runs the check too

deny and unlcok it

[worn gull]

          PermissionUsed callback;
          bool flag = this.PermissionsPolicy.CheckPermissions(ply, (IDoorPermissionRequester) this, out callback);
          PlayerUnlockingGeneratorEventArgs ev4 = new PlayerUnlockingGeneratorEventArgs(ply, this);
          ev4.IsAllowed = flag;
          LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.OnUnlockingGenerator(ev4);
          if (!ev4.IsAllowed)
            flag = false;
          if (!flag)
          {
            if (this._deniedStopwatch.Elapsed.TotalSeconds >= (double) this._deniedCooldownTime)
            {
              this._deniedStopwatch.Restart();
              this.RpcDenied(ply.GetCombinedPermissions((IDoorPermissionRequester) this));
              if (callback != null)
              {
                callback((IDoorPermissionRequester) this, false);
                break;
              }
              break;
            }
            break;
          }```
So this is the game code and if I set the ev4.IsAllowed to true then the flag is not turning to true or am I wrong?

[restive turret]

nothing is setting flag = true

[worn gull]

Yes

[restive turret]

despite you cannot do anything even if you set IsAllowed true

deny the event and unlock it yourself

[worn gull]

Okay

[worn gull]

This should be fixed, no? bruh

[restive turret]

well there is so many stuff that NW can done with these events

[royal mica]

No, SL uses Any Deny approach, since managing every plugins flag setting would be a nightmare

[worn gull]

Ah okay

[royal mica]

If you check, none of the events are permissive, all of them orients towards denial

[restive turret]

if NW would add CanOpen that would be better

bc rn if you set isallowed true but the permission return a false you cannot change that

[worn gull]

Yup and that's my problem 😄

[vivid thorn]

Is this the correct permissions.yml?

default:
  inherited_groups: []
  permissions: []

owner:
  inherited_groups: []
  permissions:
    - mt.*

head:
  inherited_groups:
    - deputy
  permissions:
    - mt.*

deputy:
  inherited_groups: []
  permissions:
    - mt.*

[royal mica]

Yeah but the mt.* in head is redundant due to inherited_groups

also do note if you have aaa.bbb.ccc you need aaa.bbb.* as well

actually, why aaa.** not supported for recursive matching?

[vivid thorn]

Thanks for the full explanation!

[upper vapor]

Jesus-QC was lazy

[young phoenix]

how can I increase the time it takes before lcz is decontaminated?

[random scaffold]

patch

[hearty shard]

dont think thats needed anymore

[young phoenix]

is it LightContainmentZoneDecontamination.DecontaminationController.Singleton.TimeOffset?

[hearty shard]

Decontamination.Offset

[young phoenix]

oh ok thanks

[young phoenix]

guys how can I properly disable respawn waves?
setting RespawnWaves.PrimaryMtfWave.RespawnTokens to -50 didn't work

[hollow pewter]

You can just disallow the WaveRespawning event

[young phoenix]

but I want to control the wave spawn manually

[young phoenix]

oh well I guess I'll let that idea slide

anyone know how I can increase the maximum amount of special scp weapons a person can carry?

[teal junco]

Thats a server side setting for item limits

I dont know if you can change from plugin

[young phoenix]

that's unlucky

[hearty shard]

technically

you can...

you just gotta jank it

[teal junco]

unlucky

[hearty shard]

make the config max server side
then fake sync your amount to client

or smth

or smth

or maybe just a fake sync idk

[unique crane]

Well

Server.CategoryLimits?

@hearty shard @young phoenix try this

[hearty shard]

i think theyre referring to player specific

[unique crane]

Aha

Well in that case... patch

[hearty shard]

unless im taking

a person can carry
too literally

otherwise yeah that works

[unique crane]

I understand that as like anyone

but thats up to him

[young phoenix]

no it should count for everyone

[hearty shard]

er

my bad

😭

[unique crane]

well then

[young phoenix]

I'll try it out thanks

[unique crane]

Server.CategoryLimits

yea

[hearty shard]

DAVID!

[unique crane]

Eve!

[hearty shard]

hi!

[unique crane]

haiiii

[hearty shard]

its mee!!!

and u!!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-kissing-cat-sniffing-gif-16809514875727716561

[unique crane]

What are you sniffing

[hearty shard]

you

[unique crane]

e

ok

[young phoenix]

wait how does it work, it's an ILimit<>

[unique crane]

Indexer

Server.CategoryLimits[ItemCategory.SpecialWeapon] = 2;

Like that

[young phoenix]

thanks

[hearty shard]

btw david

flip you!!

no one has fixed this 💔

[hearty shard]

also

why thats a new()

Oh

i see

cuz its

ah

[upper vapor]

Could've been a file class smh

[young phoenix]

is there a way to give someone an effect?
I tried Player.EnableEffect(new AntiScp207()); but it didn't work

[hearty shard]

player.EnableEffect<AntiScp207>()

you cant create a new instance of an effect like that

[young phoenix]

I see, thanks

[hearty shard]

(you actually cant create when player is already on)

well ig you could technically

just weird behaviour iirc

[young phoenix]

it didn't give any errors or anything, I thought it was like a class with static info

[young phoenix]

the anti scp 207 effect didn't work, do I need to pass in a duration or is it already permanent?

[hearty shard]

0 is permanent

which is also default value

[young phoenix]

hmm it didn't apply for some reason

[buoyant oyster]

How do I get the role color of the roles set in remote admin config?

[young phoenix]

apparently doing it in PlayerReceivedLoadout doesn't work

[carmine prawn]

try OnPlayerChangedRole

with Timing.CallDelayed 0f

[hearty shard]

delay isnt needed i dont think

[carmine prawn]

I'll try

yep

doesn't need it

[young phoenix]

thanks

also how can I see when a jailbird has run out of charges, because it doesn't trigger the playerDroppedItem event

[tulip kiln]

You could subscribe to InventoryExtensions.OnItemRemoved

It should be reported there

[young phoenix]

got it thanks

[carmine prawn]

PlayerLeftEvent: [Player: DisplayName=Crous, PlayerId=2, NetworkId=568, UserId=xxxxxx@steam, IpAddress=127.0.0.1, Role=Destroyed, IsServer=False, IsReady=True]

can we make it ahead of destroyed?

[worthy rune]

player isnt destroyed while in the PlayerLeftEvent, it just has the destroyed role

[hearty shard]

i think they mean keep the old role in there

the one that isnt Destroyed

[worthy rune]

i see

[hearty shard]

also when Player::OldRole ?

[worthy rune]

you should able able to get is by checking the newRole for destroyedRole from one of the change role events

next labapi release should have it

[upper vapor]

ServerStatic.PermissionHandler.GroupSomething contains defined roles by name

Maybe not exactly what I said, I'm just remembering

[spice hatch]

btw looking at the lab api how to get started docs and its giving me errors on the code they typed up

[teal junco]

what error

[spice hatch]

stuff like this

even though im copying the code they have on the docs

[hearty shard]

show ur thing

[spice hatch]

public override Version RequiredApiVersion { get; } = new (LabApiProperties.CompiledVersion);

[hearty shard]

where is Version from

cuz it has to be from System i believe

[spice hatch]

why do i have to implement this when it has a file for the version description copyright etc

[hearty shard]

its required version?

[teal junco]

I think its so it uses the one you built it with

[hearty shard]

its the version of labapi you require

its a safety check

if your labapi required is old then it wont load iirc

[upper vapor]

public override Version Version => GetType().Assembly.GetName().Version;

[hearty shard]

thats Version Version

but yeah that works for using csproj file for version

[upper vapor]

Yeah

They probably want it to get the version from the assembly though

[spice hatch]

no i just want to remove the errors from my console

[hearty shard]

the error was in required api version

which seems to be luke using a different Version than LabAPI does

[spice hatch]

ignore the first

and idfk about the last'

[hearty shard]

you use new()

that is only in C# 9

change ur C# language version

[upper vapor]

I should make a plugin template

But

Many people might not like it lol

[carmine prawn]

but doesn't it seem to retain some of the properties of the player, like health, position, etc

[spice hatch]

how

[hearty shard]

project settings

[random scaffold]

how

[worthy rune]

do this #plugins-dev-chat message

[upper vapor]

Visual studio users are coping

[random scaffold]

i cant change in settings

lol

only by hands in .csproj

[hearty shard]

pretty sure u can

i never do it cuz i just copy paste my csprojs

[spice hatch]

im using jetbrains brah

[hearty shard]

which means i never have to do that

so do i

[teal junco]

doesnt it still have csproj

[hearty shard]

yes

[teal junco]

just add <LangVersion>latest</LangVersion>

[upper vapor]

Right click project, properties

[teal junco]

that works to use the latest c# version on ur machine

[young phoenix]

edit your .csproj and place the following under a property group

<LangVersion>13</LangVersion>

or latest yeah

[spice hatch]

i see assembly info

[young phoenix]

?

[spice hatch]

i dont have a csproj file

[olive falcon]

Right click to your project

[hearty shard]

you do

.csproj

[olive falcon]

And then click show in the file explorer

[teal junco]

find it in file explorer

[hearty shard]

it doesnt show by default tho

[spice hatch]

why doesnt it show by default

[olive falcon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hearty shard]

because you have it set to Solution

also this works fine in Rider

so idk what ur issue is

[olive falcon]

vs why won't let us change the version of c#

[unique crane]

Edit it in csproj

not a big deal

[hearty shard]

.

uses jetbrains riderr soooo

[upper vapor]

It's so funny to me how ms did that (or didn't)

[olive falcon]

Why do I have to deal with this?

[random scaffold]

because

[upper vapor]

Because Microsoft said so

[olive falcon]

they can handle it as simply as rider

[young phoenix]

big microsoft knows best

[random scaffold]

no

they have stupid code

[unique crane]

Just add this to the csproj

<PropertyGroup>
  <LangVersion>latest</LangVersion>
</PropertyGroup>

[random scaffold]

but he earns a lot just because of 1,000 employees per function

[upper vapor]

It's not worth it for them to implement lol
It would take too much money
Also they're trying to get people to move to VSC

[young phoenix]

how can I get the player from the OnItemRemoved event?

[spice hatch]

which one

the one for the plugin or the one for the project?

[random scaffold]

ev.player

lol

[young phoenix]

isn't there, parameters are ReferenceHub rh, ItemBase ib, ItemPickupBase ip

[upper vapor]

Huh

[random scaffold]

Player.Get(hub);

[upper vapor]

That's the base-game event

[teal junco]

why does basegame have events

actually curious

[random scaffold]

nw moment

[hearty shard]

because basegame uses them?

like player changing role has a basegame event

because basegame has to do checks on it

like remove effects

[teal junco]

oh okay

[upper vapor]

Not sure I understand so let me break it down
A .NET solution (.sln, purple one) contains projects (.csproj, green one)
In the C# project you write code that facilitates the plugin
You need to right click the project (csproj) to edit its properties (language version)

[teal junco]

so you can actually make your own events and subscribe them internally

[young phoenix]

it works but it gives this error, how do I add these assemblies?

[teal junco]

thats interesting, i would have hardcoded the functionality

[hearty shard]

in server files

[upper vapor]

😭

[spice hatch]

no i got it

[hearty shard]

wdym

[hearty shard]

huh?

[spice hatch]

now it just does this error

[upper vapor]

You can subscribe to events that you make

[hearty shard]

oh

[upper vapor]

Insane behavior

[hearty shard]

yeah

SL does that

i do too

C# events are rly useful

[buoyant oyster]

Does PlayerChangingRoleEvent run before any role change actually happens?

[upper vapor]

Events reduce coupling but can lead to funky behavior sometimes
Like, Don't use return types with events

[upper vapor]

It should

[hearty shard]

it happens before the role changes
but its after the role change is ASKED for

[buoyant oyster]

public void RoleChange(PlayerChangingRoleEventArgs ev)
{
if (ev?.NewRole != RoleTypeId.Spectator)
{
if (ev != null) util.UpdateSpectatorHint(ev.Player.CurrentlySpectating);
}
}
this is throwing a NullReferenceException

[worthy rune]

events with ing run before, and ones with ed run after

[hearty shard]

ev cant be null

[upper vapor]

CurrentlySpectating is null

[hearty shard]

CurrentlySpectating can be

[buoyant oyster]

it shouldnt be though

[hearty shard]

it SHOULD

you check for NEW role

not old

the new role is a spectator
but you do the check before they change

[buoyant oyster]

I'm intending to check who they were spectating before their role updates

[hearty shard]

yeah but

ur using NEW role

oh

wait

am i stupid

yeah

when changing to spectator

you check for their current spectating

but the only way that could work is if they were already spectator (or overwatch) before and then get swapped to spectator again

if u want to check their old spectate then use ev.OldRole == Spectator

[olive falcon]

yes

[teal junco]

I would have added the checks as part of the role changing code

[hearty shard]

eh

[teal junco]

but I guess thats why im a plugin dev and not a game dev

[hearty shard]

then role change needs to account for everything

its easier to not hardcode it

makes it more maintainable

[teal junco]

I assume this is why OnEscaping fires even for mtf

[hearty shard]

well

[teal junco]

because it still requests it

[hearty shard]

yes

yeah

well its

for plugins this one

scps also trigger it now

because we asked nw to make it that way

[teal junco]

yeah i guess so

I should look into how C# events work

[hearty shard]

yes

theyre super useful

theres unity events too but idk the difference ngl

[teal junco]

for a cancelable event I assume I create an event arg, do InvokeSafely, and then do if (!args.Isallowed) return; right

I looked into exiled transpilers for events

[hearty shard]

ermmm

so it depends

[upper vapor]

For denying behavior that you know is only gonna be denied by your code I think it makes more sense to couple the code and check for requirements at the call site

If you're making an api that devs will use then yes use events

[hearty shard]

i use cancellable events in my own code

or i will

more dynamic

its not better performance

just more dynamically controllable

[upper vapor]

for internal stuff it's a bit unnecessary imo
More dynamic but also gets confusing to check what causes issues

[hearty shard]

it depends rly

[upper vapor]

And yeah, performance

[hearty shard]

its less performance yeah

extra calls and stuff

[buoyant oyster]

to clarify, it's ev.Player.CurrentlySpectating that's causing the nullreferenceexception when a player is changing from spectator to another role, not anything else. If the value is updated after the event fires and not before, it shouldn't be doing that

[young phoenix]

how can I destroy an item and check if it is destroyed from ItemBase?

[hearty shard]

thats not what you check tho

you check for them BECOMING spectator

is it not?

Oh

new role isnt spectator is like also called when escaping

from class d to ntf

or ci

etc

[upper vapor]

Check if the precious role is spectator

[hearty shard]

yeah

[random scaffold]

delete

[buoyant oyster]

i feel stupid rn

[teal junco]

so does that mean I run the handlers manualy at the function

[buoyant oyster]

im actually so dumb

man

[upper vapor]

Since there are conditions that you need to satisfy I think it makes more sense to handle those at the call site
If you have a modular system then events are more convenient

[hearty shard]

yeah

[buoyant oyster]

i could have just done if (ev.Player.CurrentlySpectating != null) lmao im so stupid

[hearty shard]

that too yeah

[upper vapor]

I find this easier though cuz I don't need to deal with subscribing/unsubscribing

I can just add a subcomponent anywhere in the hierarchy and implement the interface

-# this isn't an SL project btw

[hearty shard]

oh absolutely a cool way

SL has some stuff like this

like fpc collision handler has so you can inherit an interface and Ghostly and stuff uses it

its cool

[upper vapor]

Yup

[carmine prawn]

will it be in OnPlayerLeft?

OnPlayerLeft seems to only stably fetch the UserId

[upper vapor]

Do you have info on how LabApi releases will make their way to the server builds?
Will there be purely LabApi releases or will we have to wait for some game update

Imagine if pushing to master created a build

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-15993619957719701221

[hearty shard]

labapi is part of SL files so yeah prob stuck waiting for SL updates

[worthy rune]

its possible for both, but for example the old role one would require a new server build

[unique crane]

Both require server rebuild to update the dll for everyone

[upper vapor]

How about
Release notes that include whether LabApi was updated without any base game changed
The server could update (probably with a prompt first) LabApi in that case
Bit of a stretch? Maybe
Could it be useful? Kinda, yeah
-# I should justmake a PR smh

[unique crane]

Thats.. possible yea

[upper vapor]

❌ never going to be implemented
✅ possible

[restive turret]

we prob need like many events and actual event args

and please let us change cooldown in scp roles , remove the const and make it static (or by instance) 🙏

[royal mica]

I hope a lot of things going to change to accommodate LabAPI, moving away from the client/server side only impl to a server controllable approach

[restive turret]

i also need broadcast queue / player and a bool that is empty

[royal mica]

I mean that is already a thing no? Or is that client side only?

[restive turret]

client side

or idk i dont see Broadcast Queue on acs

[hearty shard]

uh

if you send a broadcast

and u dont override the old one

it will queue

[restive turret]

ye

no shit

i know

i want to see when empty

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

not allowed

[teal junco]

I hope more vars become synced

[royal mica]

It would be awesome if there would be some advanced custom gamemodes

Imagine SCPSL surf maps

[teal junco]

Im mostly talking about role stats as well as gun stats like recoil and firerate and reload and shit

[teal junco]

That would require modding on a level not currently possible

[teal junco]

Recoil is probably representable by an object right

[restive turret]

not our problem we are not SL devs

[teal junco]

role stats like movement speed, ability cooldown, names, intro screen

[restive turret]

you can change movement speed

but i think thats server side

[hearty shard]

only with movementboost effect

[hearty shard]

yea i dont think that syncs....

[restive turret]

prob not

worth a shot

[teal junco]

yeah

[hearty shard]

@unique crane can u check if Intercom.CheckPlayer is enough to allow scps to talk in it

[unique crane]

Sure

[hearty shard]

cuz i dont think its working like other than playing the sound

[unique crane]

No it wont sync

[restive turret]

Add [SyncVar] att to it

[unique crane]

Its not NetworkBehavior

[restive turret]

Fuck

Why is sl written so uniquely

David

Did you write the part of generators labapi impl?

[hearty shard]

:D

it should work but i just dont think it does

Oh

I need to patch the range dont i

[restive turret]

you always need pathc

[hearty shard]

public override VoiceChatChannel ValidateReceive(ReferenceHub speaker, VoiceChatChannel channel)
    {
      if (speaker == this.Owner)
        return VoiceChatChannel.None;
      if (channel == VoiceChatChannel.Mimicry)
        return channel;
      if (this.IsRoundSummary && (this.ReceiveFlags & GroupMuteFlags.Summary) == GroupMuteFlags.None)
        return VoiceChatChannel.RoundSummary;
      return Intercom.CheckPerms(speaker) && channel != VoiceChatChannel.Scp1576 ? VoiceChatChannel.Intercom : channel;
    }

Standard voice does that

But that should be fine?

Except..

so yeah

i need to patch that too...

[unique crane]

It should

[hearty shard]

turns out

[unique crane]

?

[hearty shard]

Intercom.CheckRange patch is required

because it uses that to validate if a player is allowed intercom usage even if you allow Intercom.CheckPlayer

i am saddened by this revelation

[ionic prawn]

i keep getting a error while trying to load my dep and plugin

BadImageFormatException

while everything is correct

[hearty shard]

recompile and reupload your plugin

[ionic prawn]

should i compile with x32 or x64 or x86?

[hearty shard]

seem to have fixed it

[unique crane]

ok

[hearty shard]

i only patched the CheckPlayer cuz i thought it was the only place itd check

[restive turret]

X64

[hearty shard]

but the speaking also validates intercom current player

@unique crane i lied

it doesnt work

i literally have no clue now

[ionic prawn]

what langugage version should i use?

[upper vapor]

Ideally the latest
12/13

[hearty shard]

idk tf is wrong now

[upper vapor]

Existence

[ionic prawn]

cause rn im using 10.0

[upper vapor]

That's fine, too

[hearty shard]

intercom SUCKS

maybe its client sided issue???

or maybe its issue with my

[upper vapor]

Though you're missing out on collection expressions

[hearty shard]

proximity chat thing??

OH MY GOD

ITS MY FAULT

wait no its not

i check for scp chat

does being on intercom not override scp chat

[upper vapor]

What the

[hearty shard]

ok so

[upper vapor]

Also I don't think you can modify the struct
Cuz the backing field isn't a ref field

[hearty shard]

Icon shows up
and intercom looks to be used

but the actual message doesnt work

but its intercom not scpchat so why

tf

[upper vapor]

What's in SendProximityMessage

[hearty shard]

public static void SendProximityMessage(this VoiceMessage msg, float distance)
        {
            Player speaker = Player.Get(msg.Speaker);

            foreach (Player listener in Player.ReadyList)
            {
                if (listener.RoleBase is not IVoiceRole voiceRole)
                    continue;

                Vector3 comparePos = listener.CurrentlySpectating?.Position ?? listener.Position;
                if (Vector3.Distance(speaker.Position, comparePos) >= distance)
                    continue;

                if (voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(speaker.ReferenceHub, VoiceChatChannel.Proximity) is VoiceChatChannel.None)
                    continue;

                msg.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.Proximity;
                listener.Connection.Send(msg);
            }
        }

it shouldnt call this tho

because its intercom being used

[upper vapor]

Right

[hearty shard]

i am so confused 💔

[slate flume]

Real talk

[grand flower]

make sure not to send the voice packets back the speaker

[hearty shard]

shh

[grand flower]

funky hearing yourself talk

[hearty shard]

oh i havent had that issue

but i dont know what my issue is

maybe im just losing it

[ionic prawn]

i tried to use a already made plugin but it said the same error

[hearty shard]

Oh

yeah i fixed that with if (voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(speaker.ReferenceHub, VoiceChatChannel.Proximity) is VoiceChatChannel.None)

regardless

i need to figure out intercom

not

doing its thing

[worn gull]

Is it possible to make someone's voice like when he ate the cake?

[grand flower]

I think it's clientside right

when the player has the cake effect

I tried looking into it and IIRC that's what I found out

[hearty shard]

yeah but you could technically process it server side to do it

by modifying the voice message

[slender lynx]

about that

[teal junco]

How the fuck are you gonna add surfing to SL

unless its really jank

[slender lynx]

we're 4 months into development

last issue is the momentum

only way to do it would be increasing movement speed

[teal junco]

does it use physics

[slender lynx]

yea

rigidbody

[teal junco]

how does that sync properly

[slender lynx]

its been stable so far

[teal junco]

i was under the impression I cant even deny a jump request without my client shitting itself

[slender lynx]

oh thats simple

just rewrite mirror

🍽️

[slate flume]

LMAO

[slender lynx]

we did it for the pvp server

42 million client primitives

its def possible to push it to 50

[teal junco]

isnt it an issue on the client side because of how it was coded

so it predicts jumps before validating

[slender lynx]

cancollide:true invis primitive gets destroyed when player jump is valid

otherwise it is spawned

so they cant "jump" until its validated

anyways i said too much already so byeee :3

[hearty shard]

this fixed it

yippie

[vivid thorn]

How to log in LabApi?

[hearty shard]

Logger.Info

[vivid thorn]

In which namespace?

[icy knoll]

just type logger and most ides will let you import like that

[grand flower]

the LabAPI one not UnityEngine

LabAPI.Features.Console.Logger iirc

[young phoenix]

is there a repo with a default visual studio project set up? One with every dll, language verison, etc. setup so new people can start out immediately

[plain gazelle]

This is how i have created a new gun with specifications so far using Exiled.
How do i use LabAPIs weapon modules to clear/set attachments and the magazine/ammo values?

-# Edit: For ammo i found the CylinderAmmoModule and used its UnloadAllChambers(), afterwards i simply block the reloading event.

[wheat flower]

what are the font options for texttoy

im a goober

i need a monospace one

[restive turret]

Skill issue because nw deleted or disabled it

[restive turret]

If you willingly copy a csproj rename it and edit the csproj to use the renamed name for the assembly and namespace yes