#plugins-dev-chat | SCP: Secret Laboratory | Page 19

unique crane May 9, 2025, 9:55 AM

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nor the keycard name

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lucid oxide May 9, 2025, 10:12 AM

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unique crane

Are there any plans on changing LabAPI-Beta directory name?

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:13 AM

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Good question

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:13 AM

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prob if not be in beta

lucid oxide May 9, 2025, 10:15 AM

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unique crane Good question

I hardcoded it in a few places and it'd suck if it's changed in 14.1 release..

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:16 AM

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lucid oxide I hardcoded it in a few places and it'd suck if it's changed in 14.1 release..

Best time to change it to PathManager.LabApi

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It will be changed

lucid oxide May 9, 2025, 10:16 AM

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unique crane Best time to change it to `PathManager.LabApi`

Those are standalone console apps 😭

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:17 AM

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Well in that case I am sorry

terse bone May 9, 2025, 10:17 AM

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move paths to a config file

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:17 AM

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check all subdirectories of the SL folder and check if it contains LabAPI

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:18 AM

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creating a folder labapi-trap

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:18 AM

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toomuchtrolling

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prefix it with an underscore so windows finds it first

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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Capybara

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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unique crane <a:Capybara:976830444521795614>

that remindss me

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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or a .

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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?

lucid oxide May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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unique crane Well in that case I am sorry

It'll be LabAPI in 14.1 release, right?

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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capybara collisions don't work

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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and hide it

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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upper vapor capybara collisions don't work

bru

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM

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disabling them keeps the colliders

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also why is there a collisionsenabled property

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networkcollisionsenabled does the same thing

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extra call to setcollidersstate

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:20 AM

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because you have to disable/enable them both client and server-side

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and thats what that property does

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:21 AM

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me when mirror isnt mirroring

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:21 AM

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Network_collisionsEnabled does that, too
if the syncvar changes, it invokes SetCollidersState

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so the non-network property is redundant

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:21 AM

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But hook is client-side

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So what you did is disabled colliders client-side only

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and kept them on server

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:22 AM

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but they don't get disabled 😭

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:22 AM

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they do

lucid oxide May 9, 2025, 10:22 AM

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lucid oxide It'll be `LabAPI` in 14.1 release, right?

@unique crane or when it's planned?

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:22 AM

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lucid oxide <@282125275930820608> or when it's planned?

Yes

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With 14.1 release

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:23 AM

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if you set Network_collisionsEnabled, the colliders still get changed on the server (via SetCollisionsEnabled)
but CollisionsEnabled also calls SetCollidersState by itself which is redundant

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hooks also get executed on the server

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:24 AM

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then why is it typed like that

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:25 AM

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good question

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the implementation invokes the changed handler on the server though

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:26 AM

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sue mirror

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:26 AM

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Use the CollisionsEnabled

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Network_collisionsEnabled wont work

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properly

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:27 AM

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i did

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but the colliders stay

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:27 AM

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Oh

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:27 AM

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yyyyyyyeeeeeaaaaa

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should i make an issue on labapi github

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-# probably

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:39 AM

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pc crashed when starting unity gg

icy knoll May 9, 2025, 10:40 AM

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unique crane pc crashed when starting unity gg

average david message

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:40 AM

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lel

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thats so true

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:40 AM

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unique crane pc crashed when starting unity gg

unity SteamHappy

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:40 AM

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Half time of game dev is waiting for unity

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:40 AM

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best worst engine

icy knoll May 9, 2025, 10:40 AM

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unity is so fun to make games in

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:41 AM

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98% crashes

icy knoll May 9, 2025, 10:41 AM

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just the 10 hours it takes to load is the least fun part

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:41 AM

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*most

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:41 AM

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No that is the fastest part

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:41 AM

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script compilation: running backend

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:41 AM

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😭

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:41 AM

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hold on...
application.enterplaymode

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:42 AM

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Switching from dedicated server profile back to normal one is funny

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I have to restart unity

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Oh and close VS

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otherwise it doesnt build

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:42 AM

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can i say that as Unity issue

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switch to unreal ClassDTroll

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:43 AM

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unique crane Oh and close VS

what

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:43 AM

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Yeah VS locks the source files or whatever

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And then build fails

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Maybe I just need to close it in the IDE?

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dont know

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:43 AM

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why does it lock...

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what

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:43 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:43 AM

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yeah try closing vs

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and never open it again

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toomuchtrolling

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:44 AM

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I am about to try rider cause

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VS doesnt like the big project at all

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:44 AM

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poggies

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:44 AM

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i think same issue about rider

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:44 AM

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I have to restart it usually every 15 minutes

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It slows down like hell

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:44 AM

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unique crane VS doesnt like the big project at all

I have like 15 project in one VS

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:44 AM

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give me source and i'll test

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:44 AM

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thats simply skill issue

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:44 AM

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upper vapor give me source and i'll test

kcd_npc_yeah_sure

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:45 AM

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eve would say that

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:45 AM

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I can imagine

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:46 AM

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restive turret I have like 15 project in one VS

but is it SL-scale?

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-# new freedom unit unlocked

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well well well
looks like the _collisionsEnabled field is ticked in the inspector
this works

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:47 AM

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Assembly-CSharp

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trolling

worthy rune May 9, 2025, 10:49 AM

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i wonder how many the labapi is now

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:49 AM

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where can I see mine?

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:50 AM

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restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:50 AM

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where do you see that

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what buttons did you pressed

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:50 AM

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unique crane

eerily similar to ushort.MaxValue

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:51 AM

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restive turret what buttons did you pressed

Analyze -> Calculate code metrics

worthy rune May 9, 2025, 10:51 AM

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6 lines left

unique crane May 9, 2025, 10:52 AM

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upper vapor eerily similar to ushort.MaxValue

short.MaxValue*

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 10:52 AM

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right

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ugh

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:52 AM

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ah well

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😭

worthy rune May 9, 2025, 10:54 AM

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lmao

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also did it show the other metrics for you, i never actually used them so idk what good values are xD

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:55 AM

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had to unselect my things

worthy rune May 9, 2025, 10:55 AM

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restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:55 AM

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I would check my game porject but i split it to nuget packages

unique crane May 9, 2025, 11:03 AM

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upper vapor well well well looks like the _collisionsEnabled field is ticked in the inspecto...

You have to set it to true and then to false wtf

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 11:03 AM

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ye

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i made an issue :3

unique crane May 9, 2025, 11:03 AM

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wait

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 11:04 AM

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you just have to tick a box

unique crane May 9, 2025, 11:04 AM

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I know why...

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yea lol

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done

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upper vapor May 9, 2025, 11:04 AM

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why did i think it was serialized

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bladefacepalm

unique crane May 9, 2025, 11:22 AM

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Oh this also reminds me to add it to spawn command

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 11:23 AM

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YIPPEE

languid temple May 9, 2025, 2:03 PM

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restive turret

tf is Depth of Inheritance mean

unique crane May 9, 2025, 2:05 PM

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" Indicates the number of different classes that inherit from one another, all the way back to the base class."

languid temple May 9, 2025, 2:05 PM

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oh

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73 maintainability is criminal

unique crane May 9, 2025, 2:06 PM

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tulip kiln May 9, 2025, 2:07 PM

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unique crane

I wonder what's the value for Assembly CSharp

restive turret May 9, 2025, 2:07 PM

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3 miéliion

languid temple May 9, 2025, 2:07 PM

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unique crane

wtf why is the range so high

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20-100

unique crane May 9, 2025, 2:07 PM

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tulip kiln I wonder what's the value for Assembly CSharp

82

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kekw

languid temple May 9, 2025, 2:08 PM

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redo it

restive turret May 9, 2025, 2:08 PM

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damn

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unity

languid temple May 9, 2025, 2:08 PM

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until it reaches 100

tulip kiln May 9, 2025, 2:08 PM

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unique crane 82

My plugins are better than sl source code confirmed 😎 😎 😎

unique crane May 9, 2025, 2:08 PM

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SNake has 83

languid temple May 9, 2025, 2:08 PM

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What has the best

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Which has a reasonable length

acoustic cosmos May 9, 2025, 2:08 PM

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Hello world

restive turret May 9, 2025, 2:08 PM

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prob an empty porject

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KEK

languid temple May 9, 2025, 2:09 PM

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languid temple Which has a reasonable length

^

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obv empty projects or codes below like 200 lines does not count

acoustic cosmos May 9, 2025, 2:09 PM

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100 times hello world

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Console.WriteLine("Hello world!");

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I mean no

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Pasting it a 100 times is not maintainable

unique crane May 9, 2025, 2:10 PM

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I mean its just rough average of what the maintainability is...

languid temple May 9, 2025, 2:10 PM

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ye

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put it in a for loop

acoustic cosmos May 9, 2025, 2:10 PM

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Yeah

worthy rune May 9, 2025, 2:10 PM

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i wonder what it takes to get under 20

molten lark May 9, 2025, 2:10 PM

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unique crane I mean its just rough average of what the maintainability is...

And to be fair it used to be a lot worse 😄

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5 years later, the nightmares about QueryProcessor.cs has finally stopped

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 2:46 PM

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molten lark *5 years later, the nightmares about QueryProcessor.cs has finally stopped*

meanwhile CustomNetworkManager

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upper vapor May 9, 2025, 2:47 PM

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unique crane I mean its just rough average of what the maintainability is...

maintainability is just math

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it's

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not really a

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how do i say this

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it's not a "real" metric

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numbers alone can't tell you how good the code is

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don't let this metric get to non-technical project managers 😭

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"um Jared i don't think you should be speaking because your maintainability index is only 99... just rewrite the whole codebase, how many story points would that be?"

restive turret May 9, 2025, 2:53 PM

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no pőlz

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 2:53 PM

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pőlz

restive turret May 9, 2025, 2:57 PM

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p iz next to ő

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so

unique crane May 9, 2025, 3:04 PM

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upper vapor numbers alone can't tell you how good the code is

ik

wheat flower May 9, 2025, 6:45 PM

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i love plugin magic

celest thorn May 9, 2025, 7:20 PM

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ghost hand

obsidian wharf May 9, 2025, 7:21 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1204090473384386662.gif?size=160&name=Dead+Chat+lol

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:32 PM

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I wonder what kind of results id get if i ran scp sl rounds with several stat trackers

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ive always kind of wanted to collect scp sl scientific data.

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:36 PM

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teal junco ive always kind of wanted to collect scp sl scientific data.

Like what

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:37 PM

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Not scientific really but

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like how many of each item is dropped, thrown, used, picked up and by what percentage of which classes

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how many kills each gun gets and in the hands of what % of which classes

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:38 PM

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so to make cool looking graphs

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:38 PM

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unique crane so to make cool looking graphs

Yes

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But I cant get 20 random players

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I could ask an already active server to help me collect data but nobodys gonna be like "okay sure i will install this plugin you made :)"

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:39 PM

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teal junco how many kills each gun gets and in the hands of what % of which classes

friendly fire incidents, who gets the most ff damage and who gets the most ff kills Trolley

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:39 PM

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You would have to clean these data like hell

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if you wanted something useful

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Cause you get 1 raiding idiot who throw grenade into elevator

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and its all useless

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:40 PM

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unique crane You would have to clean these data like hell

Yeah. Ive never collected data before so idk how exactly to organize it

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:40 PM

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teal junco I could ask an already active server to help me collect data but nobodys gonna b...

make a global stats plugin

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:40 PM

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unique crane Cause you get 1 raiding idiot who throw grenade into elevator

No that is valid data

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:40 PM

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static osprey make a global stats plugin

cedmod and another guy already did this

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:41 PM

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keep it anonymous unless people sign up on the site and link their accs

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:41 PM

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teal junco cedmod and another guy already did this

dont know who the other guy is and rly? cedmod did?

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:42 PM

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static osprey dont know who the other guy is and rly? cedmod did?

pretty sure cedmod tracks stats

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and yeah another guy did

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:42 PM

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teal junco and yeah another guy did

well do it again

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:42 PM

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joseph fallen although that's for exiled

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:42 PM

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and better!!

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:43 PM

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static osprey keep it anonymous unless people sign up on the site and link their accs

oh man this is a whole lot of new stuff to learn

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:43 PM

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nahh its shrimple

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:43 PM

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Yea

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:43 PM

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frontend will be the hard part

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have fun

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:43 PM

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Solution: tostring in console

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:43 PM

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I probably wont make a stats plugin

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:43 PM

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trolling

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:43 PM

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since nobody will use anyways

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:44 PM

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teal junco since nobody will use anyways

i saw someone requesting it a while ago

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im sure plenty of zap hosters and related will use it

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idk about the people that actually have their own dedi though, they seem to care about security a bit more :p

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:44 PM

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yeah

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I wonder if it breaks eula to track how many seconds people talk for

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oh thats a good stat

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:45 PM

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aslong as its anonymous its fine

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:45 PM

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Time spent on radio
Time spent on intercom
Time spent talking

wheat flower May 9, 2025, 7:45 PM

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time spent talking: astronomical

hearty shard May 9, 2025, 7:46 PM

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honestly

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:46 PM

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Average time spent as spectator

hearty shard May 9, 2025, 7:46 PM

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its smth i wanted to do

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but i cba to make a website

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nor do i feel like paying to store allat

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:46 PM

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wheat flower time spent talking: astronomical

Time spent on radio / Time spent talking * 100 == 0.082%

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:46 PM

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Radio experience:

restive turret May 9, 2025, 7:47 PM

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AAAAAAAAAA

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:47 PM

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hearty shard nor do i feel like paying to store allat

I feel like such a server would be pretty cheap to maintain

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:47 PM

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Pick up -> press alt voice chat -> play single soundboard -> drop it

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:47 PM

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like probably a $5 per month vps would cover that

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:47 PM

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unique crane Pick up -> press alt voice chat -> play single soundboard -> drop it

heres a vsr breaker:

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record all voice chat

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run it thru ai

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and track the frequency of words

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:48 PM

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One time I tried to do like voice recognizer

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didnt work

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:48 PM

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unique crane One time I tried to do like voice recognizer

in scp sl?

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:48 PM

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teal junco and track the frequency of words

i was just thinking about whether local server processing to detect nwords in vc would be allowed

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:48 PM

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static osprey i was just thinking about whether local server processing to detect nwords in vc...

No that is not allowed i believe

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Yea like directly in game it aint possible (as far as I know

static osprey May 9, 2025, 7:48 PM

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speech to text of course

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:48 PM

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you would have to send it to newer .NET app

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or some other

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Python ass script

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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unique crane Yea like directly in game it aint possible (as far as I know

You can do it if you send the data to a lib

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Thats what I tried

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none of them worked for 4.8

restive turret May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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same as discord apis

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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unique crane none of them worked for 4.8

with enough layers of abstraction you can do anything

restive turret May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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all of them is newer than 4x

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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including sending data from 4.8 app to a dotnet core app

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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restive turret same as discord apis

You can just make your own

restive turret May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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same on ai

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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discord is just HTTPS

restive turret May 9, 2025, 7:50 PM

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do zou reallz want that<

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no

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:50 PM

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teal junco and track the frequency of words

Most frequent word prediction

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Fuck (and variations thereof)

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second most frequent word

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N word

hearty shard May 9, 2025, 7:53 PM

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teal junco like probably a $5 per month vps would cover that

yeah but

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i dont have a job

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😭

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:54 PM

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Gamble in cs

hearty shard May 9, 2025, 7:54 PM

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Wahh

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:54 PM

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Just show the stats in game

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or discord

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thats free

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:55 PM

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unique crane Just show the stats in game

I think sending the stats to a central db is the problem

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although there are several ways to do that for free

unique crane May 9, 2025, 7:55 PM

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If your doing global stats plugin then you pay for it XD

teal junco May 9, 2025, 7:55 PM

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teal junco although there are several ways to do that for free

theyre not all wise

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but free

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I came up with a system where it gives a discord token to the plugin and the bot sends the data in a channel

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and you have another bot running locally to process that

undone bough May 9, 2025, 9:42 PM

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@harsh thorn sorry for ping, but there is a critical bug in labapi, breaking a lot of stuff with custom damage to SCPs
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/112

GitHub

[BUG] CustomReasonDamageHandler may cause NullReferenceException ·...

When using CustomReasonDamageHandler to damage a player, a NullReferenceException occurs if the player is an SCP.

harsh thorn May 9, 2025, 9:43 PM

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undone bough <@448186467466870784> sorry for ping, but there is a critical bug in labapi, bre...

is this reproducable without exiled?

undone bough May 9, 2025, 9:43 PM

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yes

harsh thorn May 9, 2025, 9:43 PM

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and monomod

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and could you post the stracktrace without those

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so its just pure labapi

undone bough May 9, 2025, 9:44 PM

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give me a moment PepeCoffee

upper vapor May 9, 2025, 9:45 PM

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just don't pass null to subtitles shrug

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right

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base-game

restive turret May 9, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Left

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this-server

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Also why there is a monomod there

hearty shard May 9, 2025, 10:00 PM

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restive turret Also why there is a monomod there

Harmony 2.3.x

restive turret May 9, 2025, 10:01 PM

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Oh

hearty shard May 9, 2025, 10:06 PM

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harmony no longer includes monomod in its assembly

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or smth i forgot what the exact change was

wheat flower May 10, 2025, 12:25 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472406493229219860/1370555323777024133/2025-05-09_20-17-05.mp4?ex=681fec9c&is=681e9b1c&hm=35d46012408b7ff91c9d9ae0a88e9f4b935307fd8de58490610e27b2530361fe&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472406493229219860/1370556965759090758/2025-05-09_20-23-45.mp4?ex=681fee24&is=681e9ca4&hm=7066d933e8fd2bfa87820e3beeea4d258963be27db36ece624e88b2143773e4e&

▶ Play video

ashen hornet May 10, 2025, 12:50 AM

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Camera toys can't be accessed by SCP-079 sometimes, even tho the room is assigned, does someone know why?

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it happens randomly

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worthy rune May 10, 2025, 1:40 AM

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any errors in server/player logs?

grand flower May 10, 2025, 1:54 AM

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Uh question, any issues where after changing role sometimes Player.Position doesn't work anymore?

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It's not the actual position of the player

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I had to switch ReferenceHub.transform.position

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And then I switch to an SCP and that one doesn't work anymore

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I'm very confused

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Is there a "catch all" method to get the current position of the player

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 2:07 AM

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both Player.Position and ReferenceHub.transform.position should be the same unless the player is not a FPC role. it could be because of the the spawn flags used, if the spawn point flag is enabled then position gets overridden right after the event. you should be able to use OnPlayerSpawnedEvent instead if thats the case

grand flower May 10, 2025, 2:21 AM

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I grabbed it on tick so grabbing it wasn't the issue

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but good to know, what are examples of FPC roles?

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Wouldn't 106 be one thonkong

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 2:25 AM

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any first person role, so humans and scps(not 079)

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i think it stand for First Person Control, you can check if a role is an FPC role by doing player.RoleBase is IFpcRole

grand flower May 10, 2025, 2:26 AM

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okay might've just been a bug

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seems to be randomly working now heh

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 2:26 AM

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ahh

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well if you are able to reproduce it i can look into it if needed

grand flower May 10, 2025, 2:29 AM

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Well the repro is "simple":

Spawn as NTF
Make simple gameobject that gets a reference to a Player, and moves to the Player.Position in Update.
Spawn it. I do so through a console command using the sender to determine the Player reference to hook the gameObject to.
Should be at your position
Change yourself to spectator. I handle the PlayerChangedRole event -> if spectator, destroy the gameObject that's hooked to the player.
Respawn as NTF again.
Respawn the gameobject through console command.
It appears to stay where you were right before switching to spectator

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 2:36 AM

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hmmm, that sounds like it should work. especially because you say its activated by a console command which means issues like i mentioned above dont apply. i would have to see the code myself as im certain what you described should work

crimson dune May 10, 2025, 3:14 AM

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grand flower May 10, 2025, 3:14 AM

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can't send the exact code for reasons but pretty much this

// Component on the gameObject that sticks to a player.
private void Update()
{
  if (!IsReady)
  {
    return;
  }

  if (gameObject.ReferenceHub.roleManager.CurrentRole is IFpcRole {FpcModule: not null} fpcRole)
  {
    // Owner is Player
    var position = Owner.Position;
    fpcRole.FpcModule.ServerOverridePosition(position);
  }
}

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@worthy rune

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the gameobject is a dummy

odd hazel May 10, 2025, 3:15 AM

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crimson dune

oh boy i wonder where i can go today

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 3:24 AM

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looks like the PlayerFollower component used for dummies, im thinking it could be something weird with dummies then as i remember sometimes the follower would break

grand flower May 10, 2025, 3:57 AM

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oof

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well if I have it happen again and I manage to figure out why i'll let you know

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odd

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:32 AM

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How does one enable verbose logging?

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 5:36 AM

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havnt heard of it for sl plugins

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:37 AM

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thought there were some, nvm

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trying to figure out why im being dropped by my local server when i switch role

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in a pretty nasty way, my client doesn't even get the memo heh

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 5:39 AM

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hmmm, the LocalAdminLog usually contains errors that are not logged to the Console(unless you set your local admin up differently) that could be what you need

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:40 AM

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where can I access it?

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 5:41 AM

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they should be in a folder named LocalAdminLogs i think next to where the root plugin folder is

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:43 AM

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ay ty

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yeah nothing special, oh well

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if it happens again i'll hunt it down

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:44 AM

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grand flower can't send the exact code for reasons but pretty much this ```cs // Component on...

did get that bug again

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 5:45 AM

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strange

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:46 AM

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ah

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I've got exceptions if it helps

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[2025-05-09 22:44:11.783 -07:00] [STDOUT] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.784 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at UnityEngine.Bindings.ThrowHelper.ThrowNullReferenceException (System.Object obj) [0x00018] in <6869b1608d104370ab4484f8f699b3fc>:0
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.784 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at UnityEngine.Transform.set_position (UnityEngine.Vector3 value) [0x00006] in <6869b1608d104370ab4484f8f699b3fc>:0
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.784 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FirstPersonMovementModule.set_Position (UnityEngine.Vector3 value) [0x00000] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.784 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FpcNoclip.UpdateNoclip () [0x000e7] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.784 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FirstPersonMovementModule.UpdateMovement () [0x0002a] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.784 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.PlayableScps.Scp049.Scp049MovementModule.UpdateMovement () [0x00021] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.784 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FirstPersonMovementModule+<>c.<Init>b__109_0 () [0x0000e] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.785 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at (wrapper delegate-invoke) <Module>.invoke_void()
[2025-05-09 22:44:11.785 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at StaticUnityMethods.Update () [0x00009] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0

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9 mb of this spam

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 5:49 AM

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looks related yeah

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:49 AM

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p much started happening when the dummy stopped following me

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after respawning a few times

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agh

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might be my fault, sec

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 5:52 AM

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my guess was going to be somewhere using destroy on the gameobject of the player

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:52 AM

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yeah faulty code on my end it seems

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forgot changing role, even between two "alive" roles, re-creates your player

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doesn't update the data on the gameobject

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facepalm

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 5:53 AM

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ahh

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no worries then

grand flower May 10, 2025, 5:54 AM

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but good to know about the exceptions being in LocalAdminLog, ty

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wouldn't have found that otherwise heh

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Yep works perfectly with the fixes, have a good day

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Added a request on GitHub as well for a Silent effect. Name can change but it'd basically be the equivalent of SilentWalk except it shuts up the player's role. 096 crying, 106 breathing and the sort. Any kind of noise they make just by existing.

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Would be neat

worthy rune May 10, 2025, 6:02 AM

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could be usefull, will have to talk to beryl about it

tulip kiln May 10, 2025, 9:22 AM

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grand flower but good to know about the exceptions being in LocalAdminLog, ty

If you get disconnected with the message "The server was forced to stop the connection.", Local Admin should display a message starting with Disconnecting connId={id} to prevent exploits from an Exception in MessageHandler. This is helpful if you've got 731654 more exceptions in the logs and need to track the kicking one.

agile oasis May 10, 2025, 12:13 PM

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do anyone have a snippet how to add velocity to grenade projectile ?

restive turret May 10, 2025, 12:45 PM

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Scp018Projectile scp018Projectile = (Scp018Projectile)Scp018Projectile.SpawnActive(pickup.Position + (Vector3.up * 2), ItemType.SCP018, player, 5);
scp018Projectile.Velocity = new Vector3(URandom.Range(-5, 5), URandom.Range(-5, 5), URandom.Range(-5, 5));

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or if no Velocity use Rigidbody.linearVelocity

pseudo hawk May 10, 2025, 4:06 PM

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I have a few recommendations (unsure if this is the correct place for feedback). I noticed that there seems to be quite a number of events involving player damage, and I believe it would be better if they were encapsulated into a single event, similar to this

public class PlayerDamagedEventArgs
{
    public Player Receiver { get; }
    public Player? Sender { get; }

    public DamageHandlerBase DamageHandler { get; }

    // other propertiess, etc
}

By doing so, you'll also need to add a damage type property to the DamageHandlerBase

[Flags]
enum DamageType
{
    Bullet,
    Explosive,
    // etc.
}

Additionally, it would be nice if we could add/scale/subtract damage using the DamageHandler.

hearty shard May 10, 2025, 5:04 PM

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pseudo hawk I have a few recommendations (unsure if this is the correct place for feedback)....

PlayerHurtEventArgs exist btw

icy knoll May 10, 2025, 6:28 PM

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hearty shard PlayerHurtEventArgs exist btw

no it doesn’t TrollDespair

hearty shard May 10, 2025, 6:30 PM

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icy knoll no it doesn’t <:TrollDespair:1198744721598722208>

so are we serious

icy knoll May 10, 2025, 6:30 PM

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hearty shard so are we serious

you’re just seeing things

hearty shard May 10, 2025, 6:30 PM

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so we're lying

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so we're blind

icy knoll May 10, 2025, 6:30 PM

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no

hearty shard May 10, 2025, 6:30 PM

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😭

icy knoll May 10, 2025, 6:31 PM

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ur just seeing things

hearty shard May 10, 2025, 6:31 PM

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power of explosion

icy knoll May 10, 2025, 6:31 PM

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smh

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kaboom

gleaming fossil May 10, 2025, 6:32 PM

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youre not #sigma

grand flower May 10, 2025, 7:19 PM

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grand flower ```cs [2025-05-09 22:44:11.783 -07:00] [STDOUT] NullReferenceException: Object r...

nvm still getting these kinds of issues

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a little annoying

unique crane May 10, 2025, 7:22 PM

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grand flower nvm still getting these kinds of issues

And when does this happen?

grand flower May 10, 2025, 7:22 PM

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So far mostly after changing role a few times

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the first role change or two work, but any more and it just breaks

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debugging some more

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yup

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change role once, all good

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change role twice, all good

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third time? breaks

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[2025-05-10 12:26:59.561 -07:00] [STDOUT] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.561 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at UnityEngine.Bindings.ThrowHelper.ThrowNullReferenceException (System.Object obj) [0x00018] in <6869b1608d104370ab4484f8f699b3fc>:0
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.561 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at UnityEngine.Transform.set_position (UnityEngine.Vector3 value) [0x00006] in <6869b1608d104370ab4484f8f699b3fc>:0
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.561 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FirstPersonMovementModule.set_Position (UnityEngine.Vector3 value) [0x00000] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.561 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FpcNoclip.UpdateNoclip () [0x000e7] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.562 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FirstPersonMovementModule.UpdateMovement () [0x0002a] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.562 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at (wrapper delegate-invoke) <Module>.invoke_void()
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.562 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FirstPersonMovementModule+<>c.<Init>b__109_0 () [0x0000e] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.562 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at (wrapper delegate-invoke) <Module>.invoke_void()
[2025-05-10 12:26:59.562 -07:00] [STDOUT]   at StaticUnityMethods.Update () [0x00009] in <cd0f416419d2407d959ea40b2a3b21c8>:0

grand flower May 10, 2025, 8:00 PM

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    // In my custom dummy destroying method
    if (dummy.roleManager?.CurrentRole is IFpcRole { FpcModule: not null } fpcRole)
    {
        fpcRole.FpcModule.ResetObject();
    }

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this p much fixed it

teal junco May 10, 2025, 8:06 PM

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unique crane May 10, 2025, 8:13 PM

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That was close call

grand flower May 10, 2025, 8:17 PM

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Anyone know why this would happen?

Disconnecting connId=0 to prevent exploits from an Exception in MessageHandler: NullReferenceException Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
  at UnityEngine.Bindings.ThrowHelper.ThrowNullReferenceException (System.Object obj) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Attachments.AttachmentGameObjectGroup.SetActive (System.Boolean state) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.AnimatedFirearmViewmodel.UpdateAttachments (InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Firearm fa) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Attachments.AttachmentsUtils.ApplyAttachmentsCode (InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Firearm firearm, System.UInt32 code, System.Boolean reValidate) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.ModularAutosyncItem.OnAdded (InventorySystem.Items.Pickups.ItemPickupBase pickup) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at InventorySystem.Inventory.UserCode_TargetRefreshItems__ItemIdentifier[] (InventorySystem.Items.ItemIdentifier[] ids) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at Mirror.NetworkIdentity.HandleRemoteCall (System.Byte componentIndex, System.UInt16 functionHash, Mirror.RemoteCalls.RemoteCallType remoteCallType, Mirror.NetworkReader reader, Mirror.NetworkConnectionToClient senderConnection) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at Mirror.NetworkClient.OnRPCMessage (Mirror.RpcMessage message) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at Mirror.NetworkClient+<>c__DisplayClass56_0`1[T].<ReplaceHandler>b__0 (Mirror.NetworkConnection _, T value) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at Mirror.NetworkMessages+<>c__DisplayClass9_0`2[T,C].<WrapHandler>g__Wrapped|0 (C conn, T msg, System.Int32 _) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at Mirror.NetworkMessages+<>c__DisplayClass8_0`2[T,C].<WrapHandler>b__0 (Mirror.NetworkConnection conn, Mirror.NetworkReader reader, System.Int32 channelId) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at Mirror.NetworkClient.UnpackAndInvoke (Mirror.NetworkReader reader, System.Int32 channelId) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at Mirror.NetworkClient.OnTransportData (System.ArraySegment`1[T] data, System.Int32 channelId) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at Mirror.LiteNetLib4Mirror.LiteNetLib4MirrorClient.OnNetworkReceive (LiteNetLib.NetPeer peer, LiteNetLib.NetPacketReader reader, System.Byte channel, LiteNetLib.DeliveryMethod deliverymethod) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at LiteNetLib.NetManager.ProcessEvent (LiteNetLib.NetEvent evt) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at LiteNetLib.NetManager.PollEvents () [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0

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Sometimes get my client disconnected from the server on spawn

terse bone May 10, 2025, 8:22 PM

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haven't seen this message before, but server commited unalive

grand flower May 10, 2025, 8:23 PM

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server didn't, I just got "kicked" out

unique crane May 10, 2025, 8:23 PM

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grand flower Anyone know why this would happen? ``` Disconnecting connId=0 to prevent exploit...

Are you by chance trying to update attachments on non-existing firearm item?

grand flower May 10, 2025, 8:23 PM

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I can reconnect to the server but i'm in a softlocked "connected but not really" state on the client

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hmmm that's a good start, I'll check our code

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we seem to null check everything

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any chance of NW just adding a null check in AttachmentGameObjectGroup.SetActive? DogKek

unique crane May 10, 2025, 9:02 PM

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grand flower any chance of NW just adding a null check in AttachmentGameObjectGroup.SetActive...

Sooo was I right?

grand flower May 10, 2025, 9:03 PM

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unique crane Sooo was I right?

we null check everything from what I could see

unique crane May 10, 2025, 9:03 PM

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So the answer issssss

grand flower May 10, 2025, 9:04 PM

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unlikely? unless it somehow passes a null check and then we set attachments

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this exception also doesn't always fire

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sometimes I get it frequently, sometimes once every 20 spawns so idk

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but also should you really get soft locked like this for a null attachment? The client checking on its side and just logging an error or something would be a lot better

unique crane May 10, 2025, 9:06 PM

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Since I do not know what your exactly doing I cant really help yknow

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never had this error thrown

grand flower May 10, 2025, 9:07 PM

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idk what exactly is causing this issue since it's not reproduceable reliably :c

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i'll let you know if I get more info

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seems to be from System.Void InventorySystem.Inventory::TargetRefreshItems(InventorySystem.Items.ItemIdentifier[])

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the RPC

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so i'll hunt that one down

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~~Do you know what fires this RPC? Having a hard time finding it~~ nvm

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Inventory.ServerSendItems()

tulip kiln May 11, 2025, 11:49 AM

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Lads what do you all think about something like this: https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/118

GitHub

[IDEA] Extend primitive parenting to Game Objects without a Network...

Goal Description Allow primitive toys to be parented to objects on the client that do not have a NetworkIdentity. Why While the new functionality is useful if toys need to follow the player's p...

restive turret May 11, 2025, 11:51 AM

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Now implement ingame and send code to mr devs

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Even just a concept would be great (like idk programming one?)

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 11:53 AM

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https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/39 cant believe this might not get approved

GitHub

[IDEA] Player hiding · Issue #39 · northwood-studios/LabAPI

Goal Description The ability to hide a player in Tab (Maybe RA too / Player Count) to allow a player to be not counted, eg. to allow Overwatch to do their thing. Can also be used to hide NPCs, coul...

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 11:54 AM

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iirc the issue was with hiding players

restive turret May 11, 2025, 11:54 AM

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Hiding as what context

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 11:54 AM

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tulip kiln Lads what do you all think about something like this: https://github.com/northwo...

something to consider would be pooled objects
you'd need to handle primitives on roles (character model) being put in the pool
how would that be handled?

restive turret May 11, 2025, 11:55 AM

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Removing from RA list?

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 11:55 AM

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RA list player count and N

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 11:55 AM

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worthy rune RA list player count and N

yeah

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 11:55 AM

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worthy rune RA list player count and N

just remove the player toomuchtrolling

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 11:55 AM

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upper vapor just remove the player <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>

then they are invis

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and now pets are useless

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💀

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 11:56 AM

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just make them out of primitives so they wont show on the list ClassDTroll

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 11:57 AM

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Smart

tulip kiln May 11, 2025, 11:57 AM

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upper vapor something to consider would be pooled objects you'd need to handle primitives on...

ngl I have no clue what pooling are we talking about

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 11:57 AM

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when a role is disabled it gets put in a pool so it doesn't have to be instantiated for later use

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not sure but i think the character model is part of the role object

tulip kiln May 11, 2025, 12:00 PM

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Destroy the object when model gets pool'd CoolEmoji

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 12:01 PM

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how do you detect that in a child though
you can add a component that checks for the pool object's state but that isn't very efficient

tulip kiln May 11, 2025, 12:01 PM

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If player role is changed, send a destroy message or smth

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someone at NW will figure it out trolling

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 12:02 PM

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is there a guarantee that clients pool objects in the same order as the server does? not sure

restive turret May 11, 2025, 12:03 PM

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upper vapor not sure but i think the character model is part of the role object

Correct

tulip kiln May 11, 2025, 12:04 PM

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upper vapor is there a guarantee that clients pool objects in the same order as the server d...

Would it be plausible to have an argument to check the object pool when sending a destroy message? Would something break if a game object that is a child of another object in pool is suddenly gone?

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That could be a solution

restive turret May 11, 2025, 12:05 PM

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On destroying sends netid so

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Does it?

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Mirror screw you

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 12:05 PM

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if a game object that is a child of another object in pool is suddenly gone
if the server sends a message with the destroyed child's netID then the client basically dies

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as you've stated in the issue there could be a way to tell the server about an object being destroyed

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but if the round-trip isn't fast enough... you're cooked

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Would it be plausible to have an argument to check the object pool when sending a destroy message?

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i suppose so with a new destroy message

restive turret May 11, 2025, 12:07 PM

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How would you know what object does that netid standa for?

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 12:08 PM

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i mean as a DestroyPotentiallyPooledObjectMessage or something
and not mirror's built-in one
since the client needs to handle the pool check itself

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it would still send the netId because we can only destroy networked objects

unique crane May 11, 2025, 12:27 PM

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hearty shard https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/39 cant believe this might no...

The thing is we cant promise anything

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 12:27 PM

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unique crane The thing is we cant promise anything

is there a reason why it cant be ?

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like i get not promising

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but idk it feels doable

unique crane May 11, 2025, 12:28 PM

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I think that the issue was with hiding player from player count

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 12:29 PM

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unique crane I think that the issue was with hiding player from player count

you mean to central servers?

unique crane May 11, 2025, 12:29 PM

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That too yea

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 12:29 PM

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hmm

unique crane May 11, 2025, 12:29 PM

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or thats how I understand this sentence

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To hide it from player count

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 12:29 PM

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Player List (N)
RemoteAdmin
Centrals Player Count

unique crane May 11, 2025, 12:29 PM

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Also hiding from RA/Playerlist would require additional stuff to be done

restive turret May 11, 2025, 12:31 PM

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Playerlist.Remove(player)

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 12:31 PM

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troll

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:24 PM

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@unique crane would it be possible to potentionally attach a player id onto a speaker (not implemented but as an idea) to allow muting that player muting the speaker ?

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Hmm

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:28 PM

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you can use SSSS in the meantime, though not as straightforward for players ofc

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make an issue ig

icy knoll May 11, 2025, 1:29 PM

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upper vapor you can use SSSS in the meantime, though not as straightforward for players ofc

ah yes just make an setting for each player

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not like the mute feature is already in the game, just the server doesn't get the details

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:30 PM

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icy knoll not like the mute feature is already in the game, just the server doesn't get th...

in the meantime

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until smth is made to make it possible

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:30 PM

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yea

icy knoll May 11, 2025, 1:30 PM

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i know

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i read it

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it wasnt a thing to say "stupid idea"

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:31 PM

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you can also make volume customizable with SSSS

icy knoll May 11, 2025, 1:31 PM

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i mean sure, it's a stupid workaround, albeit the only one possible rn

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:31 PM

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icy knoll i mean sure, it's a stupid workaround, albeit the only one possible rn

commands (persist with files) toomuchtrolling

icy knoll May 11, 2025, 1:31 PM

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but yeah, it should be possible to check if someone has muted someone, or do what nameless said

icy knoll May 11, 2025, 1:31 PM

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upper vapor commands (persist with files)<:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>

me when i now have to add a database

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:32 PM

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death

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:32 PM

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icy knoll but yeah, it should be possible to check if someone has muted someone, or do wha...

that would be great indeed

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:32 PM

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https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/119

GitHub

[IDEA] SpeakerToy::KnownPlayerId · Issue #119 · northwood-studios...

Goal Description Allows you to attach a player id to a SpeakerToy, which will mute the speaker if the player id is muted (for the local player) Notes This will allow proper Proximity Chat for scps ...

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issue made

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:32 PM

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icy knoll me when i now have to add a database

what

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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icy knoll but yeah, it should be possible to check if someone has muted someone, or do wha...

are there any other use cases besides not sending specific voice messages to that player?

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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me when json

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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upper vapor are there any other use cases besides not sending specific voice messages to tha...

thats it

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just voice checks

unique crane May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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hearty shard me when json

SQLite

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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hearty shard me when json

me when just write a lines from a HashSet

unique crane May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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trolling

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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upper vapor me when just write a lines from a HashSet

File.WriteLines

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or smth

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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i

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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WriteAllLines idk

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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rephrased it

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:33 PM

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unique crane <:trolling:1096438100097515660>

YOU

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:34 PM

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upper vapor rephrased it

yea and im providing the method

unique crane May 11, 2025, 1:34 PM

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Hm?

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:34 PM

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hi davy

upper vapor May 11, 2025, 1:34 PM

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hearty shard yea and im providing the method

i know i just englishn't'ed

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 1:34 PM

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do you like my suggestion

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yes u do its amazing

unique crane May 11, 2025, 1:34 PM

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hearty shard hi davy

haiii

royal mica May 11, 2025, 4:13 PM

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Is there a reason why CommandExecutingEventArgs.Arguments contain the command itself?

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Or is that intended change from the PluginAPI's way?

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 4:15 PM

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i just checked and it doesnt look like it contains it, did you use index it with []

royal mica May 11, 2025, 4:15 PM

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Considering this getter, it should contain

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also my logging also fetches the first index

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 4:16 PM

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thats correct

unique crane May 11, 2025, 4:16 PM

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Arguments is a ArraySegment

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no?

royal mica May 11, 2025, 4:16 PM

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Yup

unique crane May 11, 2025, 4:16 PM

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royal mica Considering this getter, it should contain

Arguments.Array references to the original array

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so all good

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Arguments itself has only the arguments after the cmd name

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 4:17 PM

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hope this helps

royal mica May 11, 2025, 4:18 PM

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Hmm I see

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So it is something I'm doing wrong, thank you!

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That answers a lot

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time to dive in why

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 4:18 PM

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try ElementAt() instead of []

terse bone May 11, 2025, 4:18 PM

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i think theres .At()

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 4:19 PM

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is there

royal mica May 11, 2025, 4:19 PM

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Ah I found the reason:
During migration I falsely migrated the para mstring[] args to string[] args = ev.Arguments.Array!;

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which caused the problem

worthy rune May 11, 2025, 4:20 PM

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yeah that would do it

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 4:20 PM

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sooo

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who will make the website with keycard generating

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for commands

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someones gotta do it

restive turret May 11, 2025, 5:10 PM

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hearty shard who will make the website with keycard generating

its on you

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 5:16 PM

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restive turret its on you

nuh uh

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flip you

hearty shard May 11, 2025, 8:12 PM

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me when no ItemAddReason

hollow peak May 11, 2025, 11:27 PM

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Hey, is there any known way to spawn these lights in?

warped prairie May 12, 2025, 1:41 AM

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hey guys, stupid question, how do i enable global intercom for a player? is it Player.isintercomMuted?

grand flower May 12, 2025, 2:02 AM

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OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage

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Should work if you change the voice channel to Intercom

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@warped prairie

warped prairie May 12, 2025, 2:04 AM

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ohh ok, didnt know it was that

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ill give that a try ty

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 5:33 AM

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warped prairie hey guys, stupid question, how do i enable global intercom for a player? is it P...

Check how the intercom command works

teal junco May 12, 2025, 6:13 AM

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the answer is always check the command

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its a fair answer

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 10:10 AM

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good code trust

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(my code for giving customroles their items)

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trolling

terse bone May 12, 2025, 10:15 AM

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~~i love condition errors~~

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wait, what's wrong?

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 10:18 AM

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terse bone wait, what's wrong?

idk i forgot

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💀

restive turret May 12, 2025, 11:14 AM

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terse bone wait, what's wrong?

item being null

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 11:14 AM

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thats incredible ngl

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idk why nw did this

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but oh well

worn gull May 12, 2025, 11:35 AM

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Hi! How can I get the camera which I'm looking at. I'm trying it with raycast but if I look to the camera then it gives me the wall.

restive turret May 12, 2025, 11:47 AM

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As 079?

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Or you look at 079 camera?
Or player camera?

worn gull May 12, 2025, 12:00 PM

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So I'm a D-class and I look at the camera which is at the Cells and I want to get that camera.

worthy rune May 12, 2025, 12:02 PM

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you might have to change the layer mask of the raycast to hit cameras see this for the full collision matrix #plugins-dev-chat message

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cameras are on the CCTV layer iirc

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also changing the layer should fix any issues of the raycast hitting the player

worn gull May 12, 2025, 12:04 PM

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Thanks, I will give it a try

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:39 PM

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does anyone here know how item limits are assigned

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like how the game determines which item is in which categories

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:39 PM

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item.Category

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:40 PM

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is that how the programmers decided it?

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because thats the question I wanted to answer specifically

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GD supervisor says its more complex than that so

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:41 PM

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marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:41 PM

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teal junco is that how the programmers decided it?

Yes, we change ItemBase.Category

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:42 PM

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teal junco GD supervisor says its more complex than that so

I assume you are referring to why we are not changing SCP-127 to be part of both the Special Weapons and SCP category

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:42 PM

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yeah its based on that convo

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:43 PM

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It is complex because ItemBase.Category (or ItemBase.ItemCategory, don't remember the name of the field) is a single-value enum

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To do that change we would have to either change ItemCategory to be a [Flags] enum

#

Or make items have an array of categories

#

Both changes would require us to change any instance of us checking for a single category

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:44 PM

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marble cobalt It is complex because `ItemBase.Category` (or `ItemBase.ItemCategory`, don't rem...

oh thats what i assumed

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:44 PM

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To either use .Contains or .HasFlag

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:44 PM

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yup

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its probably not hard but not worth it either.

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:44 PM

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Pretty much

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In either case, we just don't have enough time to make this change during this beta without crunching

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:46 PM

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also wouldnt it technically be better to make it a flag enum so it can use one 32 bit int instead of several 32 bit ints for each enum

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thats probably not a healthy line of thinking but im just wondering

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:47 PM

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Either solution is fine, but I'd probably go with the flags as well

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:47 PM

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hi beryl

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:48 PM

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Only because it would be easier to write/read the values when sync-ing

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:48 PM

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hearty shard hi beryl

Hello

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👋

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:49 PM

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marble cobalt Only because it would be easier to write/read the values when sync-ing

that doesnt seem like something that needs to be synced

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:49 PM

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but it could

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(slightly more control for custom items)

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:50 PM

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true actually

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:50 PM

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sooo when syncable CustomName trolling

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:51 PM

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😔 I'll give you a spoiler and say you (plugin devs) are getting one last treat this beta

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:51 PM

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hearty shard sooo when syncable CustomName <:trolling:812737440866369548>

Using tmp to make custom item icon

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:51 PM

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marble cobalt 😔 I'll give you a spoiler and say you (plugin devs) are getting one last treat ...

YAY

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:51 PM

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marble cobalt 😔 I'll give you a spoiler and say you (plugin devs) are getting one last treat ...

leak the entirety of 15.0 update rn

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:52 PM

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hearty shard sooo when syncable CustomName <:trolling:812737440866369548>

Not this though, but its a fun one

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:52 PM

#

💔

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let me be dev so i can add it

#

trust

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:52 PM

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I don't make the rules 😔

modern lark May 12, 2025, 2:52 PM

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hearty shard leak the entirety of 15.0 update rn

||There will be an update||

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:53 PM

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thank you fox

#

i appreciate it

modern lark May 12, 2025, 2:53 PM

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Happy to help

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:53 PM

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although

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ur fired.

modern lark May 12, 2025, 2:53 PM

#

aw

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:53 PM

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leaked too much

modern lark May 12, 2025, 2:53 PM

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Bye Beryl

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:54 PM

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ggs

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Its been fun 🫡

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:54 PM

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i just fired him

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:54 PM

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SL 2 is officially cancelled

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:54 PM

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beryl make literally everything have sync override

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:55 PM

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oh hell nah

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:55 PM

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Role Name override

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Playermodel override

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dll override

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OS overide.

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:55 PM

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😡 This is what the lazy SL devs are trying to prevent you from having

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:55 PM

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i gotta rewrite my customrole stuff at some point

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

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marble cobalt 😡 This is what the lazy SL devs are trying to prevent you from having

why does one of them work

#

oh

#

event and the other is a pointer

#

😭

#

or whatever its called

#

i forgot

#

arrow

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

#

Property

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

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hearty shard i gotta rewrite my customrole stuff at some point

why

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

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hearty shard arrow

do you mean lambda

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

#

yes

#

that

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

#

yeah that is an arrow

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

#

teal junco why

cuz uh

#

yes

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

#

ur so rihht

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:56 PM

#

i dont like it

#

thats my reason

#

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:57 PM

#

wait so are only fields syncable

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:57 PM

#

yes

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:57 PM

#

teal junco wait so are only fields syncable

fields of primitive type

#

?

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:57 PM

#

#

well

#

property ig too

worthy rune May 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

#

also note that syncvars only work on network behaviours which itemBase is not

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

#

Well I should try to do networking then

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

#

worthy rune also note that syncvars only work on network behaviours which itemBase is not

yeah

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

#

i did get a website about it from someone

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

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worthy rune also note that syncvars only work on network behaviours which itemBase is not

sucks to suck

#

make everything a net behavior

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

#

real

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

#

trust

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 2:59 PM

#

For every joke you make, there's been at least a dozen people make that statement seriously

#

😔

teal junco May 12, 2025, 2:59 PM

#

I do think it would be sick if it was possible to sync everything in the game

#

but obviously you have to choose some things over others

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 3:00 PM

#

marble cobalt For every joke you make, there's been at least a dozen people make that statemen...

why not do it ?!?!?!?!

#

i cannot believe this

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 3:01 PM

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teal junco I do think it would be sick if it was possible to sync everything in the game

Working on this has made me appreciate multiplayer games so much

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:01 PM

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marble cobalt For every joke you make, there's been at least a dozen people make that statemen...

Well I did once unironically ask why NW can't make Roles procedurally generated client side based on a number of synced properties like translation key/name, playermodel key, color, team, etc

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 3:02 PM

#

In theory, we could do something like that, and there were plans for it, but its a lot of work for something we don't have time for right now

#

But it is something we've said we would like to do at some point in the future

#

Plans are barely ever scrapped, just put on the backburner

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:03 PM

#

wtf thats crazy

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:03 PM

#

marble cobalt Working on this has made me appreciate multiplayer games so much

Networking is something i still barely understand

#

I applaud anyone willing to wrestle with that shit

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 3:04 PM

#

teal junco wtf thats crazy

Tbf we have been saying for years that we wanted to add custom keycards

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 3:04 PM

#

beryl im gonna hire you to sit in a corner (-5 a day)

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:04 PM

#

marble cobalt Tbf we have been saying for years that we wanted to add custom keycards

so youre saying youd add that same idea to roles

marble cobalt May 12, 2025, 3:06 PM

#

If possible? Can't say what it'd look like as we are not implementing it rn, so I'm unsure of any limitations we'd hit while working on it

#

But being able to customize roles a little bit more is not something we're against doing at all

#

Just need to find the right time to do it

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:09 PM

#

wow thats actually kinda crazy

#

never really thought that was a thing thatd happen

#

as long as the intro text can be fucked with ill die happy

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:18 PM

#

Or deleted

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:18 PM

#

restive turret Or deleted

Yeah its lowkey annoying its one of the things i wanna get rid of for customroles

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:18 PM

#

marble cobalt But being able to customize roles a little bit more is not something we're again...

Please make some const non constant so in serverside we can change the cooldown and others 🙏

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:19 PM

#

at least most other things im interested in can be mocked via custominfo or primitives

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:19 PM

#

Amogus figure

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:19 PM

#

custominfo is gods gift to earth

#

by the way

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:20 PM

#

Ye its good

#

Sadly not many plugins handle it right

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:20 PM

#

restive turret Sadly not many plugins handle it right

Like wdym

acoustic cosmos May 12, 2025, 3:20 PM

#

If I go args.IsAllowed = false;
on PlayerPickingUpItemEvent, why can't I "pick it up" again

#

Or start the pickup

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:21 PM

#

teal junco custominfo is gods gift to earth

i feel like im the only one who's used it to the full potential

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:21 PM

#

teal junco Like wdym

Since not only one plugin wants to set custom info

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:21 PM

#

the regex is kinda limiting although i understand why it exists

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:21 PM

#

restive turret Since not only one plugin wants to set custom info

Its mostly customrole plugins from what i can see

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:22 PM

#

Ye and xp system

worthy rune May 12, 2025, 3:22 PM

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acoustic cosmos If I go args.IsAllowed = false; on PlayerPickingUpItemEvent, why can't I "pick i...

sounds like a labapi issue, can you open an issue here https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues so we dont forget

GitHub

Issues · northwood-studios/LabAPI

Contribute to northwood-studios/LabAPI development by creating an account on GitHub.

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:22 PM

#

well for the most part i just say well just make custominfo features a toggle

#

and if needed have someone program a compatibility layer

acoustic cosmos May 12, 2025, 3:22 PM

#

Okay

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:23 PM

#

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OWNER
Level 99 - BOSS
CI Terminator
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teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:24 PM

#

restive turret SlejmUr OWNER Level 99 - BOSS CI Terminator Chaos Insurgency Maranduer

thats why i think exiled wrapper should have a custom rolename manager

#

i made my own using custominfo but its janky and doesnt work with other plugins

#

at least not well.

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:25 PM

#

I think mine does

#

I think

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:26 PM

#

its messy but if you focus you can see the player has a white nickname and custom role name

#

i achieved that by using custominfo

acoustic cosmos May 12, 2025, 3:26 PM

#

1.5 meters

#

What did he do to you

restive turret May 12, 2025, 3:27 PM

#

1.5 units in unity engine

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:27 PM

#

teal junco its messy but if you focus you can see the player has a white nickname and custo...

https://github.com/icedchai/omni-plugins-pub/blob/main/Omni-Utils%2Fextensions%2FPlayerExtensions.cs#L128

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:27 PM

#

restive turret 1.5 units in unity engine

No i did some sort of multiplication im not sure what

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:28 PM

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teal junco <https://github.com/icedchai/omni-plugins-pub/blob/main/Omni-Utils%2Fextensions%...

heres the patch i added to the custominfo setter so other plugins can use it properly but not the same as mine.
https://github.com/icedchai/omni-plugins-pub/blob/main/Omni-Utils%2FPatches%2FNicknameSyncPatch.cs#L21

GitHub

omni-plugins-pub/Omni-Utils/Patches/NicknameSyncPatch.cs at main ·...

Omni-2 roleplay utilities, plus goggles plugin. Contribute to icedchai/omni-plugins-pub development by creating an account on GitHub.

teal junco May 12, 2025, 3:32 PM

#

restive turret 1.5 units in unity engine

its 1.6f * players y scale

celest thorn May 12, 2025, 4:17 PM

#

its possible to spawn glass, because i've seen in the past someone do it

unique crane May 12, 2025, 4:51 PM

#

celest thorn its possible to spawn glass, because i've seen in the past someone do it

Nope

#

But I believe you can teleport existing one

#

somehow?

celest thorn May 12, 2025, 4:52 PM

#

unique crane somehow?

Ok i care about that

#

like if i copy the gameobject

unique crane May 12, 2025, 4:52 PM

#

No copying wont do anything

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 4:52 PM

#

celest thorn its possible to spawn glass, because i've seen in the past someone do it

what if it's just a semi-transparent primitive toomuchtrolling

unique crane May 12, 2025, 4:53 PM

#

Thats easier

#

Hook onto player shoot event, check if it hit the primitive

#

send hitmat

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 4:53 PM

#

last time i tried to teleport a breakable window (1+ year ago lol) the reflections didn't work so it was invisible from some angles

unique crane May 12, 2025, 4:53 PM

#

hitmark

#

Destroy if needed

#

custom window done

#

Or you might just give it component to detect hits

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 4:54 PM

#

an IDestructible-implementing component perhaps

#

pretty sure that would work out of the box

unique crane May 12, 2025, 5:02 PM

#

yea

heady turret May 12, 2025, 5:10 PM

#

That don't violate VSR? https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1371227450025050123

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 5:13 PM

#

#

😭

#

transform on a room being null is crazy

grand flower May 12, 2025, 5:52 PM

#

hearty shard

We patched stuff like that on our end

#

You can check Room.IsDestroyed which checks for validity

#

So we made Room.List only return valid rooms

#

idk why it doesn't already do that

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 5:55 PM

#

ok so

#

i cant for some reason figure out how to do this properly

CoinEffect? selectedEffect = null;
            List<OutcomeType> fails = ListPool<OutcomeType>.Shared.Rent();
            while (selectedEffect == null)
            {
                IEnumerable<OutcomeType> outcomes = EnumUtils<OutcomeType>.Values.Where(v => !fails.Contains(v));
                OutcomeType? randomOutcome = outcomes.IsEmpty() ? null : outcomes.GetRandomValue();
                if (randomOutcome == null)
                    goto breakPoint;

                foreach (CoinEffect effect in Registered)
                {
                    if (effect.Type == randomOutcome && effect.CanUse(player))
                    {
                        selectedEffect = effect;
                        break;
                    }
                }
            }

#

it just

#

feels horrendous

grand flower May 12, 2025, 5:59 PM

#

whatcha trying to do

hearty shard May 12, 2025, 6:00 PM

#

grand flower whatcha trying to do

public static void ActivateRandom(Player player)
        {
            CoinEffect? selectedEffect = null;
            List<OutcomeType> fails = ListPool<OutcomeType>.Shared.Rent();
            while (selectedEffect == null)
            {
                IEnumerable<OutcomeType> outcomes = EnumUtils<OutcomeType>.Values.Where(v => !fails.Contains(v));
                OutcomeType? randomOutcome = outcomes.IsEmpty() ? null : outcomes.GetRandomValue();
                if (randomOutcome == null)
                    goto nullCheck;

                foreach (CoinEffect effect in Registered)
                {
                    if (effect.Type == randomOutcome && effect.CanUse(player))
                    {
                        selectedEffect = effect;
                        break;
                    }
                }
            }

            nullCheck:
            if (selectedEffect == null)
            {
                Logger.Error($"{nameof(ActivateRandom)}: Could not find suitable effect for {player.DisplayName}");
                goto breakPoint;
            }

            selectedEffect.Activate(player);

            breakPoint:
            ListPool<OutcomeType>.Shared.Return(fails);
        }

#

basically

#

go through and find a suitable thing

#

i try and have it so all the outcomes are equal really

#

but if one isnt found for the outcome then it will go to next

#

if it fails on all outcomes it will return fully and not cause errors

terse bone May 12, 2025, 6:16 PM

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Something like that?

public static void ActivateRandom(Player player)
{
    List<OutcomeType> outcomes = ListPool<OutcomeType>.Shared.Rent(EnumUtils<OutcomeType>.Values);
    CoinEffect selectedEffect = null;

    do
    {
        OutcomeType randomOutcome = outcomes.GetRandomValue();

        outcomes.Remove(randomOutcome);

        foreach (CoinEffect effect in Registered)
        {
            if (effect.Type == randomOutcome && effect.CanUse(player))
            {
                selectedEffect = effect;
                break;
            }
        }
    }
    while (selectedEffect == null && !outcomes.IsEmpty());

    selectedEffect?.Activate(player);

    ListPool<OutcomeType>.Shared.Return(outcomes);
}

worn gull May 12, 2025, 6:17 PM

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Hi! How can I make custom keycards with plugin?

static meteor May 12, 2025, 6:18 PM

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worn gull Hi! How can I make custom keycards with plugin?

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi/Features/Wrappers/Items/KeycardItem.cs

GitHub

LabAPI/LabApi/Features/Wrappers/Items/KeycardItem.cs at master · n...

Contribute to northwood-studios/LabAPI development by creating an account on GitHub.

grand flower May 12, 2025, 6:20 PM

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terse bone Something like that? ```cs public static void ActivateRandom(Player player) { ...

I would use LINQ to get all effects that the player can use first

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Looping until you get a valid value is inefficient

terse bone May 12, 2025, 6:21 PM

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i made my coin plugin completely differently

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so i just wrote something that would work for EVE's implementation

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not efficiently

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cause the core idea is not efficient

grand flower May 12, 2025, 6:22 PM

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Eh, doesn't mean it can't be a little more efficient

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var filteredEffects = Registered.Where(e => e.CanUse(player));

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 6:24 PM

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public static void ActivateRandom(Player player)
{
    var possibleEffects = Registered . Where(e => e.CanUse(player)) . ToList();
    if (possibleEffects . Count != 0)
         possibleEffects . RandomItem() . Activate(player);
}

if you're only trying to activate a random effect

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spaces cuz automod doesn't like me

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not sure why you'd need all those loop shenanigans

grand flower May 12, 2025, 6:25 PM

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yeah nvm i see what the problem is

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well, filtering the effects first would probably help at least

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 6:27 PM

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grand flower ```cs var filteredEffects = Registered.Where(e => e.CanUse(player)); ```

yeah this would be the first thing

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with ListPool instead of ToList for maximum(?) efficiency

grand flower May 12, 2025, 6:28 PM

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I don't get the whole fuss of using list pools for everything

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If it's not a hot path why bother

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 6:29 PM

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less allocations, less "random" GC spikes

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cuz the GC doesn't run immediately after the method call

grand flower May 12, 2025, 6:29 PM

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if i'm calling something every frame sure, for one offs ehhh

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 6:29 PM

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fair

grand flower May 12, 2025, 6:30 PM

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~~SL already does a pretty good job at being inefficient~~

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 6:30 PM

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you might be able to use inline arrays if you know the max effect count at compile-time
literally 0 heap allocations in that case

grand flower May 12, 2025, 6:30 PM

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LULLLLLL

upper vapor May 12, 2025, 6:30 PM

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heap

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not stack

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i'm not braining

restive turret May 12, 2025, 6:37 PM

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Hi not braining

worthy rune May 12, 2025, 11:16 PM

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grand flower So we made Room.List only return valid rooms

In theory there shouldnt be any destroyed rooms in Room.List as we subscribe to an event from the base game that is raised inside OnDestroy of RoomIdentifier. just double checked and it seems everything looks to be ok, so i can only assume some error happened somewhere

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^ this also applies to all other wrappers, since they all use the same pattern

grand flower May 12, 2025, 11:17 PM

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Could be the case, I'd have to check

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But oddly enough that patch fixed the issue

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It no longer returns invalid rooms

worthy rune May 12, 2025, 11:19 PM

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very odd

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was the patch just for rooms, or any wapper with a List property

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iirc having destroyed components as keys in dictionaries can break them as GetHashCode will throw. so pretty bad if thats the case

grand flower May 12, 2025, 11:55 PM

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worthy rune was the patch just for rooms, or any wapper with a List property

Just for Room.List, I'll check if we did anything else

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As for components as keys, p sure we don't do that

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If we do I'll just make a stable key wrapper

worthy rune May 12, 2025, 11:55 PM

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grand flower As for components as keys, p sure we don't do that

im refering to what the labapi currently does

grand flower May 12, 2025, 11:56 PM

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Ahhhh

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Unsure, will check

worthy rune May 12, 2025, 11:57 PM

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yeah any help is appreciated, just wanted to get some details to get an idea on whats going wrong

grand flower May 12, 2025, 11:58 PM

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All I know is null checking Room.Base wasnt enough

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Room.IsDestroyed solved it

grand flower May 13, 2025, 12:03 AM

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worthy rune yeah any help is appreciated, just wanted to get some details to get an idea on ...

Yes Room.List takes from Room.Dictionary which is a Dictionary<RoomIdentifier, Room>

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RoomIdentifier being a monobehaviour

worthy rune May 13, 2025, 12:04 AM

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yep

grand flower May 13, 2025, 12:05 AM

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guessing either the Base or the GameObject was invalid or something

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idk

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since Base null check didn't fully fix it im guessing it's the GameObject

worthy rune May 13, 2025, 12:05 AM

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Hmm

grand flower May 13, 2025, 12:07 AM

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checking our patches for more

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nop, seems like Room.List is the only one

worthy rune May 13, 2025, 12:10 AM

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ahhh, good to know. im guessing its something weird going on where the roomIdentifier is destroyed without calling the labAPI event to remove it(or its already destroyed somehow so it fails to remove it)

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but if you do encounter anything like this in other wrappers let us know

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still would like to fix it ofc

grand flower May 13, 2025, 12:18 AM

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Will do

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I don't think we had any other weird issues so far with the other ones so that's good at least

grand flower May 13, 2025, 3:06 AM

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Kudos to NW for the new dummies. Being able to use them for testing is awesome.

teal junco May 13, 2025, 3:23 AM

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the dummies are awesome

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i also like using them as a proxy for my violent actions

carmine prawn May 13, 2025, 4:54 AM

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💀

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KeycardChaosInsurgency is not KeycardItem

limpid fjord May 13, 2025, 4:59 AM

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is

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snake game still client-side?

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I think it would be fun to make a snake game multiplayer

heady turret May 13, 2025, 5:48 AM

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can i call third person keycard interaction animation and first person keycard interaction animation by server?

unique crane May 13, 2025, 6:33 AM

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heady turret can i call third person keycard interaction animation and first person keycard i...

Third person absolutely

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Not sure how about the 1st person

unique crane May 13, 2025, 7:05 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208166976321626142/1346589726680813568/2025-03-04_22-03-48.mp4?ex=6823b469&is=682262e9&hm=ec69b325e558699307b6fb692c4ff9804cbfc8ced10bc1543bdd291e4b8c7f33&

▶ Play video

random scaffold May 13, 2025, 7:07 AM

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game started in unity

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lol

random scaffold May 13, 2025, 7:07 AM

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unique crane https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208166976321626142/1346589726680813568/2...

remained image toy

unique crane May 13, 2025, 7:07 AM

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Basically you can make images with that

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It supports text formatting

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And it sends the string independetly from the base one

random scaffold May 13, 2025, 7:07 AM

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but it hards for gpu

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better format image by base64

unique crane May 13, 2025, 7:08 AM

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So you can make like {0}\n{1}\n{2}\n....

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And then send the individual lines

grand flower May 13, 2025, 7:28 AM

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that'll be useful

terse bone May 13, 2025, 7:30 AM

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unique crane https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208166976321626142/1346589726680813568/2...

i won't make gmod like spray.. i won't make gmod like spray..

grand flower May 13, 2025, 7:30 AM

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any LabAPI update planned since the beta is getting an update?

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 7:48 AM

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unique crane https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208166976321626142/1346589726680813568/2...

What encoder did you use? The video doesn't play on mobile

unique crane May 13, 2025, 7:48 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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But yea people tell me its just black screen sometimes

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unless they have hardware accerelation on

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But heres screenshot

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 7:50 AM

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Let's go

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-# is this gonna make it into 14.1

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TMPro 💞

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That means I can port my Vultron display to SL

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YIPPEEE

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Oh wait I need a graphic mask...

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Eh, doable without it

unique crane May 13, 2025, 7:56 AM

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upper vapor -# is this gonna make it into 14.1

This is in latest patch

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 8:06 AM

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Poggies

restive turret May 13, 2025, 8:14 AM

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Does it contains fixes what made in pr?

crimson nova May 13, 2025, 9:32 AM

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How can I spawn firearm with full magazine? I tried using MagazineModule for that, but it didn't work...

restive turret May 13, 2025, 9:34 AM

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get firearm component

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IPrimary...

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and you can set the ammo to any value (you can use to set max too)

unique crane May 13, 2025, 10:31 AM

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restive turret Does it contains fixes what made in pr?

Didnt make it in

restive turret May 13, 2025, 10:31 AM

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sob and cry

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the clear items will not be fixed while we in beta

frank flicker May 13, 2025, 10:42 AM

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unique crane

I'm gonna make a gun that puts the word "gullible" on the ceiling

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Don't suppose it'll have a client side billboarding option?

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 10:47 AM

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crimson nova How can I spawn firearm with full magazine? I tried using MagazineModule for tha...

if (firearm.TryGetModule(out IPrimaryAmmoContainer container))
     container.ServerModifyAmmo(container.AmmoMax);

This should work as far as my memory is concerned

crimson nova May 13, 2025, 10:52 AM

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Thanks, I appreciate your help.

heady turret May 13, 2025, 11:11 AM

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unique crane

Waiting for TextureToy😏

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:18 AM

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Does anyone know if any translatable hint are sent from the client?

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 11:20 AM

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scenic trout Does anyone know if any translatable hint are sent from the client?

the client doesn't send hints
if you were referring to creating translated segments, you can use hint parameters
the hint text is essentially string.Format
so if the text is ammo {0} then you can use an AmmoHintParameter to translate and replace {0}
there are many types of hint parameters

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:25 AM

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That's not what i meant. I know that i can send translatable hint with new TranslationHint(...) but for those which are in the base game like when you try to pickup an item but you already have the max on you, it says "You can't take more keycards (.." (for example) or smth like that, for this one (and a few others) i can't prevent them from being logged

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I also have a patch on HintDisplay::Show(Hint hint) which adds a logger info at the beggining just for the test, and nothing is displayed but when i send a custom hint, my log info is displayed

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 11:26 AM

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those are also sent by the server so you'd need to patch it out
are you sure that you invoked PatchAll?

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:27 AM

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but when i send a custom hint, my log info is displayed
.

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 11:27 AM

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oh

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i misread

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:27 AM

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so yes i'm sure

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 11:29 AM

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this is in ItemSearchCompletor

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not sure why you're not getting the log for that

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:29 AM

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This one is logged, and nothing is shown in-game when i prevent it to being displayed

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this is the only one that works

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 11:31 AM

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what about ItemSearchCompletor::ValidateAny

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also, how do you prevent it from showing? just a return false in a prefix?

hearty shard May 13, 2025, 11:36 AM

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client has its own checks before sending server request to server a lot of times

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:37 AM

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Yeah just a return false in a prefix atm (just to test it)
In the first video, the only hint shown is when i try to pick up an item when i already hit the limit (with preventing hint enabled)
Second video, preventing hint disabled, and when i hit the limit, a hint is shown which isn't the case in the first video
So there's only the hint when you hit the limit that is sent from the sever

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:38 AM

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hearty shard client has its own checks before sending server request to server a lot of times

Yeah, I knew that but i thought that all the translation hints were sent by the server and not from the client directly

hearty shard May 13, 2025, 11:40 AM

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wdym

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im pretty sure server just tells client a fail reason

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idk

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:45 AM

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hearty shard wdym

I made a prefix to prevent hint from being sent through HintDisplay::Show and there is only one hint from the base game that i success to prevent

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So ig that all others are sent in the client checks before sending the request to the server

hearty shard May 13, 2025, 11:46 AM

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most are yeah

scenic trout May 13, 2025, 11:49 AM

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It's very annoying, it means i can't prevent these hints from being shown to a player

teal junco May 13, 2025, 4:42 PM

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how can i detect when a player makes visual contact with another player?

static osprey May 13, 2025, 4:43 PM

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teal junco how can i detect when a player makes visual contact with another player?

raycast

teal junco May 13, 2025, 4:43 PM

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constantly just raycasting from my player's entire field of view?

static osprey May 13, 2025, 4:44 PM

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oh oops i thought you meant direct contact

static osprey May 13, 2025, 4:44 PM

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teal junco constantly just raycasting from my player's entire field of view?

ill let someone else answer dis..but probably

teal junco May 13, 2025, 4:44 PM

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i mean, are raycasts expensive? i assume theyre a bit expensive to justify doing several over and over again but

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i could add a cone to the camera transform and add a monobehavior that sets the collider as a trigger and detects when another player enters

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 4:46 PM

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teal junco constantly just raycasting from my player's entire field of view?

consider using VisionInformation instead

teal junco May 13, 2025, 4:47 PM

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upper vapor consider using VisionInformation instead

is that a namespace for unity

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 4:47 PM

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your ide should suggest it

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i can't recall exactly which namespace but it's an SL thing

teal junco May 13, 2025, 4:48 PM

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is it the same code used for 173 detection (and previously all scp detection)?

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 4:48 PM

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173, 096, you name it

teal junco May 13, 2025, 4:48 PM

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oh okay cool

teal junco May 13, 2025, 4:48 PM

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upper vapor i can't recall exactly which namespace but it's an SL thing

Ill see it when i get home

terse bone May 13, 2025, 5:20 PM

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sadJoe

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 5:20 PM

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why are you sending 6 MB worth of text ClassD_Hollow

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pixel-based hint screen?

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you gotta scale it down for that

terse bone May 13, 2025, 5:22 PM

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upper vapor you gotta scale it down for that

yea i did that and it works, but that 6 milion bytes sure look funny

upper vapor May 13, 2025, 5:22 PM

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ClassDClueless

unique crane May 13, 2025, 5:25 PM

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terse bone <:sadJoe:1304924998980603954>

Sorry to tell you buddy.. but your a bit 6MBs over the limit

grand flower May 13, 2025, 5:25 PM

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Northwood and their arbitrary limits

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What do you mean I can't send the entire script of the bee movie

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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this is unfair

terse bone May 13, 2025, 5:25 PM

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Lmaoo

grand flower May 13, 2025, 5:26 PM

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(jokes aside wtf did you try to send lmao)

terse bone May 13, 2025, 5:26 PM

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just a 900x689 image clueless

carmine prawn May 13, 2025, 5:27 PM

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SCP956Capybara

unique crane May 13, 2025, 5:27 PM

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grand flower Northwood and their arbitrary limits

You just cant send UDP packer larger than 65535..

grand flower May 13, 2025, 5:28 PM

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Yeah I know, was a joke

carmine prawn May 13, 2025, 5:29 PM

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Can't wait to use TextToy player the VIDEO

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what is its limit?

unique crane May 13, 2025, 5:30 PM

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65534 characters for the base string

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65534 chars for each argument

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Yeah im sure you can fit in whole image?

tulip kiln May 13, 2025, 5:33 PM

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unique crane Yeah im sure you can fit in whole image?

Why bother with compressed image when I can place multiple smol images

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tulip kiln May 13, 2025, 5:34 PM

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unique crane Yeah im sure you can fit in whole image?

When you implement multiple hints support, guess what becomes possible

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trolling

terse bone May 13, 2025, 5:34 PM

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why not create 7 milion primitives

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clueless

carmine prawn May 13, 2025, 5:35 PM

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TWO and MORE TextToy

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upper vapor May 13, 2025, 5:54 PM

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could've been ?? sender.FullPermissions

unique crane May 13, 2025, 6:14 PM

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terse bone why not create 7 milion primitives

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805416872962818078/1202342614431707136/image.png?ex=68244d91&is=6822fc11&hm=d378e7cef423acac0df57bc59dea3e46ce402abf0c9169715f64894ddd92986b&

crimson nova May 13, 2025, 7:12 PM

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upper vapor ```csharp if (firearm.TryGetModule(out IPrimaryAmmoContainer container)) co...

I tried this just now, but it still spawns Firearm Pickup without ammo.. 😭

unique crane May 13, 2025, 7:42 PM

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teal junco is it the same code used for 173 detection (and previously all scp detection)?

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Use this

teal junco May 13, 2025, 7:43 PM

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ty

unique crane May 13, 2025, 7:43 PM

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vast canopy May 13, 2025, 8:01 PM

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carmine prawn Can't wait to use TextToy player the [VIDEO](<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ...

Why I believed this...

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HahaNo

terse bone May 13, 2025, 8:06 PM

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i hate this
If i have when (ex is not OperationCanceledException) the code after won't execute...

brisk matrix May 13, 2025, 8:36 PM

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Why do speakertoys synchronize with each other? Is it supposed to be this way, or am I doing something wrong?
https://youtu.be/GgPo4QZbAgQ

YouTube

Jiraya

SpeakerToys exp

▶ Play video

unique crane May 13, 2025, 8:37 PM

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There is like a field for that no?

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Pretty sure

brisk matrix May 13, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Ill check

hearty shard May 13, 2025, 8:38 PM

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brisk matrix Why do speakertoys synchronize with each other? Is it supposed to be this way, o...

The id of it

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Make sure theyre different if you want them to be yk different

brisk matrix May 13, 2025, 8:39 PM

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I need to set them?

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Ok ill try

teal junco May 13, 2025, 8:41 PM

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brisk matrix Why do speakertoys synchronize with each other? Is it supposed to be this way, o...

show your code please

brisk matrix May 13, 2025, 8:41 PM

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Ok

teal junco May 13, 2025, 8:41 PM

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i assume youre using audioplayerapi

brisk matrix May 13, 2025, 8:41 PM

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No

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Speakertyos from labapi

teal junco May 13, 2025, 8:43 PM

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Oh idk

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still show code

brisk matrix May 13, 2025, 8:43 PM

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public class SpatialPlayback : IAudioPlayback
{
    public float Volume { get; set; } = 1;
    public string SoundName { get; set; } = string.Empty;
    public float Radius { get; set; } = 5;

    public short PlayAt(Vector3 position, bool loop = false, bool queue = false)
    {
        AudioPlayer audioPlayer = new();
        audioPlayer.CreateToy(position);

        if (audioPlayer.SpeakerToy is null)
        {
            Log.Error("WTF");
            return -1;
        }

        audioPlayer.Volume = Volume;
        audioPlayer.IsSpatial = true;
        audioPlayer.SpeakerToy.MinDistance = 1f;
        audioPlayer.SpeakerToy.MaxDistance = Radius;

        audioPlayer.LoadAudio(GetFilePath());
        audioPlayer.Play(loop, queue);

        return PlaybackRegistry.Register(audioPlayer, SoundName);
    }

    private string GetFilePath() => Path.Combine(AudioSystem.AudiosDirectoryPath, SoundName + ".ogg");
}


class AudioPlayer wrapper for Speakertoy
public void CreateToy(Vector3 position, Quaternion? rotation = null, Transform? parent = null, bool networkSpawn = true)
    {
        rotation ??= Quaternion.identity;
        SpeakerToy = SpeakerToy.Create(position, rotation.Value, parent, networkSpawn);
    }

    public void Play(bool loop = false, bool queue = false)
    {
        if (_buffer is null || SpeakerToy is null)
        {
            Log.Error("Audio not loaded or toy not created.");
            return;
        }

        SpeakerToy.Play(_buffer, queue, loop);
        _coroutine =  Timing.RunCoroutine(DestroyWhenFinished().CancelWith(Exiled.API.Features.Server.Host.GameObject));
    }