effects that change movement boost
#plugins-dev-chat
hearty shard
yeah
hearty shard
(including customs)
This is the hardest part
feral haven
I pray for LabAPI to actually be more useful than NWAPI currently is
I just hope I can do this I wasn't able to do before Dx
hearty shard
and idk how youd do it
feral haven
Well, you could... mmm make a event for it?
hearty shard
other than a synced list of multipliers
feral haven
Which the Server then calls on EventHandlers or smth?
feral haven
Something that gives the current Movement speed multiplier after the base game effects where applied
feral haven
to clients on changed
Yeah, smth like that
feral haven
xD
hearty shard
definitely not an idea 700 people have had
feral haven
Dude, I haven't even figured out how Speaker Toys work
hearty shard
Dude, I haven't even figured out how Speaker Toys work
😭
feral haven
I hate no documentation 😢
hearty shard
you need to send voice packets
feral haven
I made a entire system for it!
hearty shard
which you get through a coroutine that uses NVorbis or something
i might make my own uhhh uhhhh
Thing
But i dont understand the stuff soo maybe not
feral haven
And yet when I spawned speakers they stacked up on another. They literally were parented to each other for no reason 😢
feral haven
Add a small easter egg in the code or smth
hearty shard
Add a small easter egg in the code or smth
😭
feral haven
xD
feral haven
Nah, just add a comment saying something funny
Like // The cake was never real
or smth like that :P
feral haven
Mm, what does it currently have?
feral haven
or rather, what is it supposed to do?
feral haven
Oh? Attack modifier?
hearty shard
yeah
feral haven
That seems interesting
feral haven
Oh! One thing I hate the MOST is that currently, LabAPI has a ItemBase instead of a Firearm in the PlayerShotWeapon event
hearty shard
Oh! One thing I hate the MOST is that currently, LabAPI has a ItemBase instead o...
because items arent done
etc
feral haven
And that it also doesn't give where the shot landed, like a collider or a raycast
restive turret
And that it also doesn't give where the shot landed, like a collider or a raycas...
Raycat
hearty shard
And that it also doesn't give where the shot landed, like a collider or a raycas...
Add to the issues tab of labapi
Add suggestion
restive turret
Hi
feral haven
Add to the issues tab of labapi
Eeeh, I don't feel like messing with that -w-
hearty shard
hello
hearty shard
Eeeh, I don't feel like messing with that -w-
feral haven
I'd rather not mess something up that someone else made
hearty shard
its just [Suggestion] add x property
hearty shard
I'd rather not mess something up that someone else made
Nono
Not pr
Issues tab
You can create suggestions
And get them to make it
restive turret
[Suggestion] Bring back 3114
restive turret
[Suggestion] Please add command to teleport to specific location
restive turret
Or is it?
feral haven
Ah, I see
restive turret
Use <link> to hide it
restive turret
Hi lazy, I'm SlejmUr
feral haven
Anyways, I pray for the day that I get to modify the Movement Speed 🙏🏻
hearty shard
shush
restive turret
Kadava Calamity server and the Hungarian old/original server
I also reverse stuff so
feral haven
Any news on when LabAPI will replace NWAPI?
hearty shard
I also reverse stuff so
Wdym
feral haven
So the next update?
restive turret
Whichever comes first
hearty shard
So the next update?
yes
feral haven
When is that? :P
hearty shard
When is that? :P
Unknown
feral haven
Dang
restive turret
Games, apps usually
hearty shard
Smh
restive turret
And websites?
restive turret
We keep asking poor david to add stuff so it still long way
hearty shard
We keep asking poor david to add stuff so it still long way
david needs to get to work
feral haven
I'd help if I could :P
Not like I've got anything better to do
restive turret
The great eepy
hearty shard
I'd help if I could :P
Not like I've got anything better to do
me when no sl source :(
hearty shard
The great eepy
You go sleepy forever?
restive turret
Wish
hearty shard
Oh
hearty shard
?
without sl source you cant add majority of things
because you need to modify client
feral haven
Oh, you mean the Dlls?
restive turret
And server
feral haven
or what I'm guessing you mean is the source code
hearty shard
or what I'm guessing you mean is the source code
yes source means source code
restive turret
The actual .cs files from the game itself.
When u compile something you can make flags, or as c# call it as Constants.
this basically can reduce code to show in public.
ie: functions with #if debug inside it only compiles if "debug" is been inside the flags/Constants.
What we get is a stripped and compiled version of source code
Also many places where using switch it becomes "if-else" mess
feral haven
Oh yeah, but that's just compilers
feral haven
-# And yet people still do that
restive turret
not my fault
worthy rune
Then there will be a month transition period roughly
that 1 month min has already passed
hearty shard
that 1 month min has already passed
fair enough
true sierra
that 1 month min has already passed
Hi riptide 👋
limpid fjord
Players receive data from the server within a 35m range, but I want to create a plugin that extends this range infinitely
I understand that this limitation is enforced by anti-cheat, but I need to bypass it
Is it possible to make such a plugin?
idle depot
I would not recommend bypassing the anti-cheat if you want to play the game
upper vapor
Players receive data from the server within a 35m range, but I want to create a ...
what do you need this for?
limpid fjord
I’m using a plugin that removes the facility's fog, allowing players to see farther, however, due to this limitation, it’s not working properly
upper vapor
this isn't an anticheat thing, it's managed by the VisibilityController
you can patch NormalMaxRangeSqr in FpcVisibilityController to make players see each other from farther away
keep in mind that this value is squared
limpid fjord
Thank you!
upper vapor
np
vagrant nebula
people without labapi build cant join servers using labapi?
unique crane
nop
restive turret
Operation LabAPI is basically a three-month period of time that we're gonna be taking in order to fixing and repairing the game
hearty shard
when will it be out non beta
when its finished
and nw have fixed all the issues
and nw are happy with it
vagrant nebula
meh
restive turret
So probably more than 3 month
marble cobalt
when will it be out non beta
Our goal is to replace NWAPI (with LabAPI) starting from the 14.1 update 👌
vagrant nebula
Our goal is to replace NWAPI (with LabAPI) starting from the 14.1 update 👌
yay
ty
i think its way better
atleast it dont have hint rate limit
marble cobalt
Appreciate it!
vagrant nebula
i can still use exiled with it through the 9.6.0 beta
so theres gonna be no difference
marble cobalt
We are doing it this way because we know the community has requested we give them enough time to port their plugins over to it, hence why it is on an alternative branch atm 🫡
If you were curious, the reason it is not compatible with live clients is because of the sheer amount of things we've made customizable with it
If you tried joining with a live client, you'd likely see a lot of desync and/or possibly crash (and got past the version compat check)
restive turret
Oh btw I seen recently you pushed stuff into the early server but the other update went live on client
unique crane
It will crash the second you join
hearty shard
david...
unique crane
eve...
hearty shard
merry christmas
hearty shard
merry christmas
unique crane
Oooookay thanks
marble cobalt
Oh btw I seen recently you pushed stuff into the early server but the other upda...
Yep, that is because the build is backwards compatible
If we pushed it straight into live for servers, people will complain their servers updated without warning
Been there, done that :^)
restive turret
Ah lol.
It was some holiday update
marble cobalt
We just updated our backend, left a bit of an explanation in serverhost chat but it was mainly a little bit of cleanup for the release branch
The changes were mostly focused on the client (main menu got some small icon corrections)
restive turret
Ah, I just only did the server check since thats only dll and not il2.
Hopefully we able to turn on specific holiday events despite not giving achis but content will be there.
So for example can give coal to users or give the glowing candy to someone
Its probably required to publish those assets to both place too and idk if NW want that
unique crane
Wouldnt be much of a holiday event then
upper vapor
Ah, I just only did the server check since thats only dll and not il2.
Hopefully...
You can do that locally but in prod... 
restive turret
There is no such a thing as prod.
Only public testing 
restive turret
Fixing your plugin/game in live testing is the bestworst choice
restive turret
Ye I dont like working with endianness
BinaryWriter/Reader sadly only do is Little and not Big
So you rather make an extension method for it or just make a new BinaryBigReader/Writer
carmine prawn
thin shuttle
It will crash the second you join
No
It's doesn't crash until you go into FpcRole
Because of stat change
hearty shard
@harsh thorn when next labapi beta release
restive turret
yesterday
wicked marlin
yesterday
i doubt about that, steamdb says "last month"
Yesterday it was just a release on the main branch, not the labapi one
thin shuttle
^
ornate smelt
<@448186467466870784> when next labapi beta release
2026 at most
stable shore
2026 at most
Least*
ornate smelt
I honestly would kill if we were able to disable the ability for players to jump, just like we are for them to move (ensnared)
-# Since disabling jumping, sitll plays on the client side, obviously the server-side no one sees it.
harsh thorn
<@448186467466870784> when next labapi beta release
no eta
marble rock
cause yall ate the 1 month supply under 2 days
upper vapor
lavish laurel
a question after how much time labapi will leave beta and release in main branch?
ornate smelt
cause yall ate the 1 month supply under 2 days
we were hungry
carmine prawn
true
hearty shard
How should I put a `Pickup` into the player's inventory?
convert to item 
unique crane
yea
hearty shard
player.Inventory.ServerAddItem(pickup.Type, addReason, pickup.Serial, pickup.Base)
or smth
actually
i lied
i think theres pickup.Base.CreateItem()
or smth
i cant remember exact
hearty shard
ill just check basegame
carmine prawn
spring kelp
is there in LabAPI something like Paths.Configs etc. in Exiled
hearty shard
is there in LabAPI something like Paths.Configs etc. in Exiled
PathManager
spring kelp
PathManager
thank you
carmine prawn
and using LabApi.Loader.Features.Paths;
spring kelp
and `using LabApi.Loader.Features.Paths;`
🔥
worthy rune
better ask <@1068368908530229280> on this one
I think its missing, idealy we add a Player.AddItem(Pickup) to player for it
spring kelp
is GroupColor the same as RankColor?
upper vapor
is GroupColor the same as RankColor?
Decompile or look at source and check
spring kelp
okay
by the way, how can i check for custom permissions in LabAPI, cause in Exiled it was like that (on picture)
hearty shard
Player.HasAnyPermissions iirc
spring kelp
oh yeah, youre right, thanks a lot
unique crane
I think its missing, idealy we add a ``Player.AddItem(Pickup)`` to player for it
Sure
wheat flower
restive turret
by the way, how can i check for custom permissions in LabAPI, cause in Exiled it...
make sure if you somehow want to run the command as server/ra check if sender is Server since some plugins did not and checks the server has specific permission and it does not work like that
spring kelp
make sure if you somehow want to run the command as server/ra check if sender is...
kk, i'll remember
loud schooner
Hello
Can someone tell me what programming language I need to know for plugins? C++ or C#
I only know C#, but not much
upper vapor
You need C# to work with SL plugins (and with Unity in general)
hearty shard
General Unity knowledge is recommended too
restive turret
I dont have unity knowledge from unity itself, I only have knowledge of it cus I reversed games that using unity
hearty shard
fair
upper vapor
maybe that's for the better
loud schooner
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074192232321667122/1270542034477908091/b...
subnautica,
loud schooner
where did you learn c# on youtube, courses or literature?
hearty shard
where did you learn c# on youtube, courses or literature?
why not all 3
restive turret
I learned from looking at source code on GitHub
wheat flower
all 4
loud schooner
why not all 3
because I have a problem with willpower and I can't do everything at once
hearty shard
because I have a problem with willpower and I can't do everything at once
well
how do you usually learn things
what kind of learner are you
wheat flower
step 1. have a good reason to use c#, something you find interesting
step 2. do something with that interest
step 3. win
hearty shard
yea
wheat flower
literally how i learned c#
hearty shard
i learnt C# 90% from EXILED plugins
wheat flower
i wanted to make plugins for myself
wheat flower
i learnt C# 90% from EXILED plugins
exactly
loud schooner
how do you usually learn things
Well, I didn't even think about that.
hearty shard
me neither
i knew basics before exiled
but exiled definitely taught me a majority
wheat flower
the thing is, all my knowledge comes from scpsl plugins and random c# videos i happened to watch along the way that had info
loud schooner
step 1. have a good reason to use c#, something you find interesting
step 2. do ...
- I want to get into the Northwood Studio team 2) Hmmm, plugins? 3) Victory
wheat flower
me when unity still uses net framework and we cant use epic .NET classes / features
hearty shard
1) I want to get into the Northwood Studio team 2) Hmmm, plugins? 3) Victory
Do plugins
gl joining NW
wheat flower
make something simple
hearty shard
the competition is high
wheat flower
(murder mystery was NOT shrimple)
hearty shard
yeah
loud schooner
To make any plugin, I need basic knowledge :/
hearty shard
To make any plugin, I need basic knowledge :/
i gave a few links
wheat flower
i HATE you
loud schooner
i gave a few links
Yes, yes, thank you
wheat flower
yeah
loud schooner
i gave a few links
links don't load
wheat flower
hearty shard
links don't load
they do for me
wheat flower
<@300607485738221569> im gonna sell you
what made you say that 💀
hearty shard
what made you say that 💀
schizophrenia
hearty shard
btw wtf does the % symbol do in c# math
im gonna be honest i still havent figured it out
💀
wheat flower
modulus
wheat flower
me when the
hearty shard
yea
loud schooner
I'll try again
wheat flower
oh that explains why % 2 == 0 can be used to check for even number
(you are learning)
(whether you like it or not)
wheat flower
wheat flower
wheat flower
you gave them to me so fr that you deleted them from memory
hearty shard
hearty shard
town of salem mod
well
its dead as fuck
hasnt gotten past just a lobby
the main person kinda
exploded
with job
so like
hasnt been touched rly in a year 💀
wheat flower
real...
wheat flower
im not really "actively" working on any projects right now
hearty shard
im not really "actively" working on any projects right now
i have lots of things i wanna do
wheat flower
i just have a few ideas in mind for Site-12 RP server, and bananaplugin for skillz cabana needs some updates
hearty shard
my brain is gone tho
loud schooner
I tried it but it didn't load.
wheat flower
i have lots of things i wanna do
do them!
wheat flower
???
wheat flower
I tried it but it didn't load.
Those links arent the only thing, if you really want to learn, you can just search up c# tutorials on youtube or look at official microsoft docs.
hearty shard
wheat flower
im not depressed enough to
what does this mean lol
wheat flower
java = c# just worse
hearty shard
yeah
hearty shard
you need an actual SetValue() GetValue()
😭
and ik ppl in C# who code like that too
wheat flower
on my way to write set_Property and get_Property
wheat flower
intelligence
loud schooner
https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-silly-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-11748501437476694...
Eve online
wheat flower
give me your balls
hearty shard
guh
mild ice
i dont hate myself enough to work with java
Think about all the exciting enterprise systems you could work on!!!!
hearty shard
Think about all the exciting enterprise systems you could work on!!!!
think about how much i could murder you
upper vapor
java = c# just worse
C♭
upper vapor
there is no properties
Lombok: 
-# it's not really properties, only that Lombok generates the getters and setters for you
upper vapor
i guess ill have to make one
Will you create AGI to do that?
restive turret
with Factories and Interfaces?
limber silo
String.Equals
I do believe this is way better
it makes sense
in c# == is overused
also java enums are goated and anonymous classes
for the rest, c# superiority
hearty shard
also java enums are goated and anonymous classes
wdym
upper vapor
wdym
enum values are basically just static fields of class instances that have their constructor private, saving a lot of boilerplate
you can implement interfaces and have fields, methods
hearty shard
interesting
limber silo
you can also have anonymous classes
limber silo
not for classes
wheat flower
i swear on my life
limber silo
yes for methods if you mean that
limber silo
yeah dynamic is a thing but it is really different from anonymous classes
performance sucks
and not strongly typed
upper vapor
dynamically generated classes at runtime
is that what's it called?
a dynamic assembly
wheat flower
dynamically generated classes at runtime <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>
i had to do that
until i knew source generators existed
💀
upper vapor
vapid sentinel
hello. I know it's a very generic question and there's probably a library somewhere that does that but how does C.A.S.S.I.E. determine where the word ends to add "-ed" or "-ing" or "-s" to it? there must be some complex audio analysis under the hood and I can't figure it out. help pls
limber silo
hello. I know it's a very generic question and there's probably a library somewh...
each word has a different audio file
really simple
vapid sentinel
simple "ed" is a seperate audio file
how to determine when should it play it
stable shore
-> you look at the word
-> does it end in "ed" or "ing"?
limber silo
how to determine when should it play it
> Plays the audio file "Cant"
> Once the audio finishes plays "ed" or "ing" audio file
vapid sentinel
\> Plays the audio file "Cant"
\> Once the audio finishes plays "ed" or "ing" au...
that's how i did it
at first
it didn't work
limber silo
Are you trying to code some plugin
limber silo
like with the original files?
limber silo
So what is the problem again
vapid sentinel
\> Plays the audio file "Cant"
\> Once the audio finishes plays "ed" or "ing" au...
file end != word end and the offset is not the same for every file
vapid sentinel
So what is the problem again
i can't determine the exact time it should play "ed" or "ing" or whatever
basically I need to find the end of the word to do so
it might be that there's just a dictionary with offsets for all the words
but i hope it's not cuz i don't like this solution
vapid sentinel
file end != word end and the offset is not the same for every file
i mean offset from the end of the file of course
limber silo
i can't determine the exact time it should play "ed" or "ing" or whatever
So
I was looking at the code
nothing too hard, it just removes 0.1 when -ing and 0.06 seconds of length when other suffix
but the code is public in the server assembly
@vapid sentinel decompile NineTailedFoxAnnouncer
And you will find all you need
vapid sentinel
<@1353098218250047552> decompile `NineTailedFoxAnnouncer`
wait it's not obfuscated?
vapid sentinel
damn thank you
limber silo
The server assembly isn't obfuscated so it can be modded easily
but it misses some client only code that is trimmed
but not necessary for this
hearty shard
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limber silo
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loud schooner
Can I be a translator or something like that?
restive turret
Well, job position need to be open or smth
loud schooner
Well, job position need to be open or smth
It's closed alas
restive turret
Cus they ain't looking for one
loud schooner
I will wait
restive turret
vapid sentinel
ok i just found a stupid bug that was at the root of my problem 😅 ty for source code of cassie anyways
plush quartz
Can I be a translator or something like that?
Which language translator?
loud schooner
Which language translator?
Russian,Ukraine
plush quartz
We don't need Russian translators for now, but for Ukrainian, I recommend to apply at the next recruitment
@loud schooner
loud schooner
We don't need Russian translators for now, but for Ukrainian, I recommend to app...
and when will the next recruiting be?
plush quartz
idk
plush quartz
@loud schooner better ask translator manager about it
loud schooner
<@676338934019653645> better ask translator manager about it
Is it possible to ping him?
plush quartz
Not him..
plush quartz
@plain lodge
loud schooner
<@462236313110708236>
Thanks
vapid sentinel
I think it's 1 language = 1 person cuz you just have to check after AI
and fix minor mistakes
and there's almost nothing to translate in this game
loud schooner
I think it's 1 language = 1 person cuz you just have to check after AI
Well...that's true
mild ice
Ping me if you see recruiting, pls
Since you have the job notification role you'll be pinged whenever we have new openings regardless
mild ice
I think it's 1 language = 1 person cuz you just have to check after AI
We do have multiple translators for the same language!!
loud schooner
Since you have the job notification role you'll be pinged whenever we have new o...
I'm afraid I don't always receive notifications
loud schooner
We do have multiple translators for the same language!!
Why?
hearty shard
Why?
One person translating the entire game without mistakes?
Doesn't that seem a bit much to expect?
also schedules
One person isnt available 24/7
mild ice
Why?
Not everyone is available all the time, having multiple means we have more flexibility and more importantly, error checking 
mild ice
Hi Nameless :D
loud schooner
One person translating the entire game without mistakes?
Hmm, no?
loud schooner
Not everyone is available all the time, having multiple means we have more flexi...
Well yeah, I didn't think of that :/
loud schooner
@plain lodge
vapid sentinel
it this a payable job?
vapid sentinel
i mean translator
vapid sentinel
We do have multiple translators for the same language!!
well then it makes sense 🤣
hearty shard
well then it makes sense 🤣
Not sure why you're suggesting NW just uses AI to fix their problems though
Regardless, more than 1 is good
People have lives, the game translations shouldn't have to depend on a single person who might end up busy, eg hospital visits etc
loud schooner
i mean translator
I don't think so, it's a volunteer program 🙂
hearty shard
The game itself doesnt depend on 1 single person in any category to my knowledge, theres people to fill the spots
vapid sentinel
People have lives, the game translations shouldn't have to depend on a single pe...
well of course as long as you don't have to pay anything for that
hearty shard
well of course as long as you don't have to pay anything for that
So if someone got paid theyd never be busy?
thatd fix life for them?
vapid sentinel
So if someone got paid theyd never be busy?
you'd better deal with them not being available at all times than spending 2x more money
and yes
theyd never be busy
hearty shard
theyd never be busy
Sarcasm at its finest
hearty shard
you'd better deal with them not being available at all times than spending 2x mo...
Why would it even be 2x? Its per commission
(at least for dev)
restive turret
https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-silly-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-11748501437476694...
cat
restive turret
The game itself doesnt depend on 1 single person in any category to my knowledge...
If i make a langueue and i set myself as a translator that would work?
sick flume
Anybody know when will LabAPI be released?
icy knoll
Anybody know when will LabAPI be released?
with 14.1
so
wait for 14.1
we dont know a release date
restive turret
soon™️
sick flume
I see
restive turret
Nwapi will be completely removed in 14.1
languid temple
*we dont know a release date*
unique crane
it means NWAPI will stop working after 14.1 💀
Yes
It is fully removed from the game's code
and replaced with labapi
worthy rune
@hearty shard https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/10 iirc this is you
hearty shard
<@1180466630191501363> https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/10 iir...
yeah whats up
Oh
When doing stuff like swapping inventories (afk replace etc) we swap their items exactly
Including their serial so customitem is preserved etc
no point creating an entirely new item if the item exists too
worthy rune
i think i added something like that awhile back
worthy rune
like a item change owner thing
hearty shard
idk i just want this functionality to be just as easy as its been already (with exiled)
worthy rune
i thought you were asking about if you instantiated an item from its prefab using Object.Instantiate, and then adding it which would of been different
hearty shard
i thought you were asking about if you instantiated an item from its prefab usin...
ah no
worthy rune
ok all good then
worthy rune
Including their serial so customitem is preserved etc
dropping/adding should work without changing the serial
hearty shard
dropping/adding should work without changing the serial
yea but thats a lot more than just giving someone an item
worthy rune
this is what i had in an upcoming PR
/// <summary>
/// Moves the item to the specified players inventory.
/// </summary>
/// <param name="player">The player to move this item to.</param>
public void MoveTo(Player player) => player.AddItem(DropItem());
exiled just adds the item to the player
i mean you CAN do that right?
im not going crazy
worthy rune
there isnt a base game way todo it directly
hearty shard
cuz i clear a players inventory (without destroying items) and store them, then just add them back
worthy rune
not to say its not possible, its just not trivial as calling one method
worthy rune
cuz i clear a players inventory (without destroying items) and store them, then ...
when you do that i believe your asking for bugs, certain item props dont refresh e.g. what team the player is on is only set on pickup
its why if you set your role from RA and dont reset the inventory the old items retain the FF settings from the previous role
hearty shard
public Item AddItem(ItemBase itemBase, Item item = null, ItemAddReason addReason = ItemAddReason.AdminCommand)
{
try
{
item ??= Item.Get(itemBase);
item.AddReason = addReason;
Inventory.UserInventory.Items[item.Serial] = itemBase;
item.ChangeOwner(item.Owner, this);
if (itemBase is IAcquisitionConfirmationTrigger acquisitionConfirmationTrigger)
{
acquisitionConfirmationTrigger.AcquisitionAlreadyReceived = false;
}
typeof(InventoryExtensions).InvokeStaticEvent(nameof(InventoryExtensions.OnItemAdded), new object[] { ReferenceHub, itemBase, null });
Inventory.SendItemsNextFrame = true;
return item;
}
catch (Exception exception)
{
Log.Error($"{nameof(Player)}.{nameof(AddItem)}(ItemBase, [Item]): {exception}");
}
return null;
}
is what exiled does
to my knowledge i havent heard of any bugs with this
worthy rune
looks good, i assume Item.ChangeOwner(item.Owner, this); handles the issues i mentioned
hearty shard
Never actually looked at this code tbh
Oh
It just calls Base.OnRemoved, changes the owner and calls OnAdded
internal virtual void ChangeOwner(Player oldOwner, Player newOwner)
{
Base.OnRemoved(null);
Base.Owner = newOwner.ReferenceHub;
Base.OnAdded(null);
}
Im not sure why it uses oldOwner
might be old code.. or a bug
worthy rune
it is virtual, so could be needed in a derived implementation
worthy rune
this is what i had in an upcoming PR
```cs
/// <summary>
/// Moves the item to t...
i should mention although this would be more inefficient, it is how the base game handles it e.g. for escaped players
hearty shard
i should mention although this would be more inefficient, it is how the base gam...
would love the other way
hearty shard
it is virtual, so could be needed in a derived implementation
probably there will be somewhere its needed to add slight extra logic
worthy rune
would love the other way
i need a good reason, i still think the other method could result it bugs
hearty shard
i need a good reason, i still think the other method could result it bugs
fix the bugs :)
but uh
idk
We already have the item
Making it pickup and then item is just weird
there has to be a way to make the ownership swap properly
while not causing big issues
worthy rune
if the base game had a method for changing ownership it would be fine as then it wouldnt have to be maintained on the labapi side
hearty shard
make it basegame
if you can do that easily
otherwise ig yeah do your pickup way
if it works it works
worthy rune
would have to check with @harsh thorn
loud schooner
Hi ppl
viscid raven
I'm fuckin insane
loud schooner
I'm fuckin insane
Why did you decide so?
thin shuttle
its why if you set your role from RA and dont reset the inventory the old items ...
Wait where the bug report for these ?
Because i never seen this bug
swift nexus
Wait where the bug report for these ?
it's fixed for 14.1 iirc
I don't believe there was a report on the public bug tracker
loud schooner
<:ClassDTrollHD:994997595879510126>
Full HD
unique crane
it's fixed for 14.1 iirc
Pretty sure yea
restive turret
there is no bugs in the software just some unknown features
viscid raven
Why did you decide so?
Because I can't find out how to make a funny knockback stick
worthy rune
Wait where the bug report for these ?
i never reported it, or looked if it was just thought it was the expected behaviour
@hearty shard https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/20 can i close this?
worthy rune
when you put -ing at the end it indicates that you can cancel it in LabAPI, i dont think we can have that
ItemSpawning is for pickups being distributed which i can understand as being incorrectly named
hearty shard
when you put -ing at the end it indicates that you can cancel it in LabAPI, i do...
ing is not something i care about
just
when a pickup is created
if thats call itemspawned or smth thats fine
worthy rune
i see
i was thinking we could do that for all wrapped types, an event for when an item is added something like On<Entity>Created
restive turret
OnScp018Created
OnScp2176Created
OnUsableItemCreated
worthy rune
@carmine prawn couldn't quite understand this https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/49, i assume its related to this #serverhost-suggestions message
hearty shard
<@1112420688985337897> couldn't quite understand this https://github.com/northwo...
it might be getting the local players settings
the server itself doesnt need settings from itself but i might be misunderstanding
worthy rune
thats what i was thinking too, but i didnt think that was possible
worthy rune
ill fix zereths issue either way, and if crous clarifies then ill know if i need to fix anything else
loud schooner
Because I can't find out how to make a funny knockback stick
Why do you need to make a funny throwing stick?
viscid raven
Why do you need to make a funny throwing stick?
Because it's funny
Once you hit somebody with it their ragdoll gets flung
But it's proving difficult
loud schooner
Because it's funny
Do you want to make a stick in sl or another game?
wheat flower
ill fix zereths issue either way, and if crous clarifies then ill know if i need...
me when my name is mentioned
viscid raven
Do you want to make a stick in sl or another game?
I can show you the plugin
That I've done so far
loud schooner
Once you hit somebody with it their ragdoll gets flung
Regdol, I understand.
loud schooner
I can show you the plugin
Let's
viscid raven
Regdol, I understand.
Ragdoll
viscid raven
It's probably worthless, but one second
loud schooner
Okay, I'll wait.
viscid raven
Okay, I'll wait.
using Exiled.API.Features.Spawn;
using Exiled.CustomItems.API.Features;
using Exiled.Events.EventArgs.Player;
using UnityEngine;
namespace SetMaxHPPlugin.Items
{
public class SuperJailbird : CustomWeapon
{
public override uint Id { get; set; } = 99; // Unique ID
public override string Name { get; set; } = "SuperJailbird";
public override string Description { get; set; } = "An enhanced Jailbird with extreme knockback.";
public override float Damage { get; set; } = 30f;
public override float Weight { get; set; } = 1.0f;
public override SpawnProperties? SpawnProperties { get; set; }
protected override void OnHurting(HurtingEventArgs ev)
{
if (ev.Attacker == null || ev.Player == null || ev.IsAllowed == false)
return;
if (ev.DamageHandler != null)
{
// Calculate knockback force
Vector3 knockbackForce = ev.Player.Position - ev.Attacker.Position;
knockbackForce.y = 0.5f; // Slight upward force
knockbackForce.Normalize();
knockbackForce *= 10f; // 10× knockback multiplier
// Apply knockback using player's rigidbody (if available)
var rigidbody = ev.Player.ReferenceHub?.gameObject.GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
if (rigidbody != null)
{
// Apply knockback force to the player's rigidbody
rigidbody.AddForce(knockbackForce, ForceMode.Impulse);
}
}
}
}
}
The spoiler is how discord formats text in between ||||
loud schooner
using Exiled.API.Features.Spawn;
using Exiled.CustomItems.API.Features;
using Ex...
Where did you learn exiled? I'm learning c# and exiled now, but I can't find any good courses, I'm jumping from one to the other
worthy rune
The spoiler is how discord formats text in between ||||
you can place your code between triple back ticks
```cs
code...
```
so discord doesnt format it the usual way, e.g. #plugins-dev-chat message
viscid raven
Woops
viscid raven
Where did you learn exiled? I'm learning c# and exiled now, but I can't find any...
Self taught
And learnt a little bit from other devs
viscid raven
you can place your code between triple back ticks
\`\`\`cs
code...
\`\`\`
so...
Yeah I just forgot
Cuz I'm lazy
loud schooner
Self taught
Got it, thank you.
carmine prawn
<@1112420688985337897> couldn't quite understand this https://github.com/northwo...
Yes, I think this is the same issue
we met here
loud schooner
Do you need to know c# or exiled to be a map builder?
worthy rune
no
worthy rune
you can use an existing plugin like SLOC or MER
loud schooner
you can use an existing plugin like SLOC or MER
I don't really know what this is, can you explain?
worthy rune
those are the names of the plugins, have a look at them and choose the one you want. if you want to know how they work you have to look at them yourself since they are both different
loud schooner
those are the names of the plugins, have a look at them and choose the one you w...
how or where do I run them?
Sorry for ping
worthy rune
have you installed plugins before?
loud schooner
have you installed plugins before?
No
worthy rune
alright, have a read of this https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/wiki
worthy rune
No
btw, the LabAPI is still in beta so you need to download the beta branch on steam for both the server and client if you want to use any LabAPI plugin. since i saw you mention EXILED a few times, you might want to stick to EXILED first and not mess around with the LabAPI until its out
loud schooner
btw, the LabAPI is still in beta so you need to download the beta branch on stea...
So you need to know exiled? I'm already completely confused.
worthy rune
So you need to know exiled? I'm already completely confused.
wdym by know EXILED?
EXILED is a plugin framework just like LabAPI, whether you know how to code in it doesnt really effect if you can use it as a server host
loud schooner
wdym by know EXILED?
this is a framework for sl
I'm starting to understand
So you need to download LAb from Steam?
worthy rune
So you need to download LAb from Steam?
yeah if your fine with using a beta branch(just know most regular players cant join your server while using a beta branch)
loud schooner
yeah if your fine with using a beta branch(just know most regular players cant j...
No, I don't want to host a server, I want to make decorations for it, etc., I think you'll understand.
worthy rune
should be all good then
you technically dont need to download and host a server locally then, i think both plugins use unity as the build tool so you could probably skip making a server if you really wanted too(although it would be hard to test out your creations to see if they work)
loud schooner
Okay, I have unity, but how do I install plugins as a tool on unity?
worthy rune
you will have to refer to the docs on them, since i dont use them myself
loud schooner
you will have to refer to the docs on them, since i dont use them myself
Okay, but I am still grateful to you for your help.
worthy rune
Okay, but I am still grateful to you for your help.
what are you struggling with?
loud schooner
what are you struggling with?
In terms of?
worthy rune
Sounded like you were asking for general help, which i dont provide. if you want help be specific
loud schooner
Sounded like you were asking for general help, which i dont provide. if you want...
No, I asked about what I needed to make cards, and you told me, I thanked you for that.
worthy rune
No, I asked about what I needed to make cards, and you told me, I thanked you fo...
I understand now, all good
loud schooner
I understand now, all good
listen, does it show on your steam that you're a member of the northwood team?
worthy rune
listen, does it show on your steam that you're a member of the northwood team?
steam?
worthy rune
it doesnt for me
worthy rune
members have the choice of a GBadge, i dont play the game much so i didnt get one
loud schooner
members have the choice of a GBadge, i dont play the game much so i didnt get on...
Well, thanks for answering my stupid questions.
limpid fjord
Can I use SCP-3114 with HarmonyPatch?
limpid fjord
so sad
restive turret
Is fixed in 14.1
It's that a question or statement
restive turret
How do u know
hearty shard
he said it
restive turret
Yippee
hearty shard
also
restive turret
wb the 🦩 and the marshmallow
hearty shard
fix for skeleton killing through walls
hearty shard
wb the 🦩 and the marshmallow
no news on that, unlikely
restive turret
fix for skeleton killing through walls
Just disable strangle
hearty shard
hearty shard
Just disable strangle <:SteamHappy:1157333712950800497>
nahh its fully fixed now
no more killing through doors and walls
hearty shard
restive turret
U should know
restive turret
It's not even there yet so
hearty shard
wdym
restive turret
And the scp gun prob have events to (or just using firearms as base)
Oh btw.
The coin spawn at 330 is what kind of spawning?
hearty shard
"not nullable" definitely trust
(it is in fact able to be null and idk why yaml hasnt marked it as such)
restive turret
Cus yaml suck ass
hearty shard
Cus yaml suck ass
real
hearty shard
@unique crane heyyyy
unique crane
haiiiiii
hearty shard
do you know if its intentional 079 doesnt get xp for tesla kills
(not 079s tesla, just watching the person walk into tesla)
unique crane
ummm
hearty shard
theres no code for it
unique crane
I mean do you get xp if someoen commits suicide?
hearty shard
private static void GainReward(
Scp079Role scp079,
ReferenceHub deadPly,
DamageHandlerBase damageHandler)
{
PlayerRoleBase currentRole = deadPly.roleManager.CurrentRole;
int amount;
if (!(currentRole is IFpcRole fpcRole) || !TerminationRewards.TryGetBaseReward(currentRole.RoleTypeId, out amount))
return;
RoomIdentifier room = RoomIdUtils.RoomAtPositionRaycasts(fpcRole.FpcModule.Position);
Scp079HudTranslation gainReason = TerminationRewards.EvaluateGainReason(deadPly, damageHandler);
bool flag1 = (UnityEngine.Object) room != (UnityEngine.Object) null && Scp079RewardManager.CheckForRoomInteractions(scp079, room);
bool flag2 = (UnityEngine.Object) scp079.CurrentCamera.Room == (UnityEngine.Object) room;
int reward;
switch (gainReason)
{
case Scp079HudTranslation.ExpGainTerminationAssist:
if (!flag1)
{
gainReason = Scp079HudTranslation.ExpGainTerminationWitness;
goto case Scp079HudTranslation.ExpGainTerminationWitness;
}
else
{
reward = amount;
break;
}
case Scp079HudTranslation.ExpGainTerminationDirect:
if (!flag1)
return;
reward = amount * 2;
break;
case Scp079HudTranslation.ExpGainTerminationWitness:
if (!flag2)
return;
reward = amount / 2;
break;
default:
return;
}
Scp079RewardManager.GrantExp(scp079, reward, gainReason, currentRole.RoleTypeId);
}
it appears that if you interact nearby, yes
actually oh
return damageHandler is UniversalDamageHandler universalDamageHandler && (int) universalDamageHandler.TranslationId == (int) DeathTranslations.Tesla.Id;
okay yeah its intentional
its ExpGainTerminationDirect if tesla was used
but doesnt give xp if no interaction nearby
thin shuttle
That really destroy the keycard plugin to modify permissions
Because 100% we will not be able to sync it
hearty shard
@fallen sentinel sry for ping, is the above (syncing perms) planned for the custom keycard ?
hearty shard
Because 100% we will not be able to sync it
lets hope they add that to the new custom keycard
or im loosing it and there isnt a custom keycard item
i swear there is tho
hearty shard
Keycard will be horrible
why
thin shuttle
Except if they make every keycard sync permission to client
And same for any keypad
thin shuttle
why
Because with plugin they will be contradiction between user and what server did
Am i the only one who don't really like the new design of keycard ?
hearty shard
Am i the only one who don't really like the new design of keycard ?
@rare wolf doesnt either
mild ice
I'm genuinely curious why
rare wolf
Yeah it's just
Ugly
It's not poorly designed or anything but
In my personal opinion I don't approve of it
upper vapor
Because with plugin they will be contradiction between user and what server did
I hope they have a validator interface that returns the missing tiers
upper vapor
Sob
languid temple
If you guess wrong, your server gone
hearty shard
upper vapor
If you guess wrong, your server gone
thin shuttle
Okay i now read the change for keycard and plugin
upper vapor
Except if they make every keycard sync permission to client
And same for any ke...
The server sends an rpc when the request was approved or denied, they might as well just add the approved/missing tiers to the rpc
unique crane
What are y'all talking about again
hearty shard
What are y'all talking about again
new keycard models
and the idea of changing keycard permissions
thin shuttle
In my personal opinion I don't approve of it
Yeah kinda the same couldn't really tell what wrong with it exactly
I also for sure don't like the non rectangular shape of it
But still that kinda personal
thin shuttle
What are y'all talking about again
Do you know if we change key card permission on a door if it's will modify it's keypad
On client
upper vapor
Yeah kinda the same couldn't really tell what wrong with it exactly
I also for...
Mostly accessibility
It's harder to read text than to recognize symbols (especially with some disabilities)
Keycards were also changed so they're more accessible and distinguishable, e.g. for people with color blindness or dyslexia
Shapes are easier to make apart
thin shuttle
Mostly accessibility
It's harder to read text than to recognize symbols (especia...
I have dyslexia i don't see how this help
For blindness i 100% see
upper vapor
I guessed the dyslexia part
mild ice
There's more information in the post about why the designs are as they are, the main reason sighted was colour blindness:
https://patreon.scpslgame.com/posts/view/8c101f47-d980-4dac-ac2c-937fbd0c9b22
marble cobalt
<@242306234269696000> sry for ping, is the above (syncing perms) planned for th...
you didn't watch the stream didn't you
lol
hearty shard
you didn't watch the stream didn't you
i did
just not the entire thing
i got distracted
marble cobalt
You can make custom keycards with custom text, permissions
Colors
Choose which model of keycard you want
rare wolf
Same
rare wolf
That is poggers
marble cobalt
Yep!
rare wolf
W Northwood moment
hearty shard
Was surprised to see this chat quiet about it during the stream
was talking on it in CT instead
marble cobalt
lemme boot up a client rq
marble cobalt
was talking on it in CT instead
customkeycard 1. KeycardCustomManagement KeycardGuard 1 2 3 red green Sup_folks! Test
1 2 3 being the perms
hearty shard
goated beryl
rare wolf
Gas station gift card
hearty shard
Gas station gift card
can we sell you
rare wolf
restive turret
Sry was ( & is ) drunk during stream
Ye i readed the kc change looks good, there is probably code related stuff for creating this type of kc too right?
hearty shard
Ye i readed the kc change looks good, there is probably code related stuff for c...
theres a custom keycard you can set everything of
restive turret
Ye but still not answer to my question.
Do i have to run the give command or does it have class for it to example create custom card and do stuff with it
thin shuttle
`customkeycard 1. KeycardCustomManagement KeycardGuard 1 2 3 red green Sup_folks...
I still have my question about door will door be able to get sync perm ?
My best example is making than nuke required level 3 weapon & level 3 adminstrative
Will they be shown on client
marble cobalt
Ye but still not answer to my question.
Do i have to run the give command or doe...
Don't think there's any logic ever isolated within commands
The goal of commands is not only to make something easily testable / accessible thru the console
But also examples of how to make something work
restive turret
Ye, nice, just asking to make sure
marble cobalt
Ye, nice, just asking to make sure
🫡 All good, thought I'd clarify cuz its something I occasionally see people miss from commands, that they kinda function as tutorials as well
marble cobalt
What itemtypeid of customkeycard ?
iirc you use existing itemtypes
restive turret
🫡 All good, thought I'd clarify cuz its something I occasionally see people mis...
Ye for example I think it is great to show for how doors work so can others implement it on its own, probably same for the ckc
marble cobalt
Ah, no there's the new
KeycardCustomTaskForce = 63,
KeycardCustomSite02 = 64,
KeycardCustomManagement = 65,
KeycardCustomMetalCase = 66
Moving everything 1-5 after 05 nvm
thin shuttle
Ah, no there's the new
```cs
KeycardCustomTaskForce = 63,
KeycardCustom...
No CustomChaos ?
I like the change to micro hid room
restive turret
Ah remindme today that I have to check the streams vod
worthy rune
that should work
upper pike
Yea, probably should have just played around with it first before asking
spring swan
loud schooner
Listen, I still downloaded Unity to start making maps, but I don’t understand how to install plugins in Unity, can someone explain?
mild ice
Listen, I still downloaded Unity to start making maps, but I don’t understand ho...
Are you referring to mer maps?
loud schooner
Are you referring to mer maps?
Yes, I want to become a mapper
mild ice
Yes, I want to become a mapper
You'd be better off asking in their Discord for support, but have you tried checking out the beginners guide?
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1OD7pNX6og02QPfaiTcAGqSXcA581LCDDM7DortxPFLU/mobilebasic
loud schooner
You'd be better off asking in their Discord for support, but have you tried chec...
I tried it a little
upper pike
So Player.GetAmmo() returns a ushort object
How do i convert it into an int so i can do maths with it
mild ice
Try cast it?
worthy rune
So `Player.GetAmmo()` returns a ushort object
How do i convert it into an int so...
ushort is just an int with a smaller max value and is unsigned i.e. positive values only
you might want to check out a c# basics video or tutorial
mild ice
So nothing special for LabAPI
No it's just a basic C# thing
upper pike
So `Player.GetAmmo()` returns a ushort object
How do i convert it into an int so...
Misunderstood the error
I thought it had a problem subtracting a ushort number from an int
Turns out i was supposed to give the answer as a ushort
worthy rune
Misunderstood the error
I thought it had a problem subtracting a ushort number f...
highly recommend you read something like this https://www.tutorialspoint.com/csharp/csharp_data_types.htm, you can skip the dynamic and pointer types as you will probably never have to use them for plugins(dynamic because they dont work, and pointer because they are low level/"dangerous") everything else you should read
upper pike
Thanks
Is short and byte worth using instead of int if im not planning on going negative or above 255
I assume it would be faster
worthy rune
for doing calculations using smaller types doesn't necessarily mean that they are faster, it gets very complex as it involves knowing about how a CPU works. so if your just starting off you should stick to using int unless you are certain that the value will not go over
upper pike
Noted, thanks
dull basin
Hello everyone
restive turret
Hi
dull basin
How should I proceed with Lab API development?
Or what reference dependencies do I need to add, and then proceed with development?
restive turret
Currently, there is a beta branch need to use both in server and client
Called labapi-beta iirc
unique crane
Or what reference dependencies do I need to add, and then proceed with developme...
You need to download the labapi server build and add ref to Assembly-Csharp, AssemblyCsharp-firstpass, CommandSystem, etc
restive turret
And i think someone here can copy paste the thing.
Also probably good to just share the wiki too
restive turret
https://github.com/SlejmUr/CustomItemsAPI/blob/90197287e8f006e2286c04fd5c9019711c2334e0/Directory.Build.props#L41
Here is what I refer to the projects
dull basin
OK Thanks
upper vapor
<https://github.com/SlejmUr/CustomItemsAPI/blob/90197287e8f006e2286c04fd5c901971...
And then there are the projects which reference every single assembly from SCPSL_Data/Managed
restive turret
OK Thanks
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/wiki/Creating-the-Project
Also here is the official labAPI wiki for some things
dull basin
<https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/wiki/Creating-the-Project>
Also her...
OK Thanks you
restive turret
If u have more questions or smth u can post here, probably someone gonna answer
dull basin
OK
normal pawn
Just curious, I'm trying to play same file on 100 speakers at the same time and it's not playing. Problem with amount of speakers or with something else?
worthy rune
Just curious, I'm trying to play same file on 100 speakers at the same time and ...
player can only hear the 4 closest speakers iirc
normal pawn
I've plased them on scp 079 speakers positions in each room
So i think it supposed to play
Maybe problem in sending?
worthy rune
that should work
normal pawn
Like on same tick I'm trying to send on ~50 speakers
100% issue not in audio file itself cuz it's working fine on 1 speaker
worthy rune
you should be able to hear on all by sending once, if all the speakers have the same controller id
normal pawn
Ah yes, same controller id...
loud schooner
I applied to the Northwood company, should I wait for a response or not?
wheat flower
I applied to the Northwood company, should I wait for a response or not?
"i applied for a job, should i wait for a response on whether or not i got the job?"
please read what you just asked
and how does it make sense
restive turret
limber silo
I applied to the Northwood company, should I wait for a response or not?
nahhh dont wait for a response just start working