plugins-dev-chat

[unique crane]

This gut?

Or I should probably make it x: 1, y: 3

etc

yea

[upper vapor]

How about a format property in each plugin's properties? Like IsEnabled

[unique crane]

?

[upper vapor]

Oh wait that's not really gonna work with yaml serializers unless you create one per plugin

Nvm

[worthy rune]

hmmm are the leading - really necessary, i think each one implies an array member e.g.

class Color
{
    float[] a = [1];
    float[] r = [1];
    float[] g = [1];
    float[] b = [1];
}

[unique crane]

Any other object/struct suggestions?

[hearty shard]

did u do both vector2, 3 & 4

or just 3

[unique crane]

just 3

[hearty shard]

maybe add the others, ppl might use em

[unique crane]

x: yourval
y: yourval2
z: 0

done xd

[hearty shard]

😭

still requires a plugin to put Vector3 and use that instead

[unique crane]

Fineee ill make it work with Vector2

[hearty shard]

YIPPIE

330 rework when ?

[unique crane]

perhaps I could take a look at it tomorrow

[hearty shard]

omg

ur actually the best

[unique crane]

I spent few hours trying to fix the yaml

only to find out I didnt replace which serializer/deserializer is being used xd

[hearty shard]

clipped

[hearty shard]

oh

okay

[unique crane]

nah just kidding

[hearty shard]

oh

okay

[main zenith]

anyone have maybe idea why this code:

   public void CassieCustomMessage(CassieAnnouncingEventArgs ev)
   {
       
           Log.Info(ev.Words);
       
       if (ev.Words.Contains("SCP") && ev.Words.Contains("1") && ev.Words.Contains("0") && ev.Words.Contains("6") && ev.Words.Contains("TERMINATED") && SCP457Main.Instance.DeadSCP457>=1)
       {
           SCP457Main.Instance.DeadSCP457--;
           ev.IsAllowed = false;


       }
   }

still send Cassie Announcement but only without sound?

[icy knoll]

why don't you just check if scp-106 dies 😭

oh wait you use IsAllowed

[main zenith]

I need to clear 1 Announcement from Cassie and this is my problem bcs this what i got here only make the Announcement muted

[carmine prawn]

I hate Firearm Module

especially Ammo Module

will LabAPI's FirearmItem save me?

[hearty shard]

False

[wheat flower]

me when i serialize vector 3 as: x, y, z

(i like one liners)

[inner citrus]

so true

[restive turret]

me when im not

ServerSpecificSettingsSync

[main zenith]

nv

[main zenith]

nv its not working XD

[tulip kiln]

Because the event doesn't seem to work properly for now

#plugins-dev-chat message

[unique crane]

we are so back

@hearty shard

[upper vapor]

that's cursed but i love it

[unique crane]

why

[upper vapor]

missing z value

[unique crane]

what where?

[upper vapor]

oh

that's a vector2

[unique crane]

yea

[upper vapor]

OHHHH

oka

y

i'm actually stupid

speaking of configs, are permission wildcards planned to be supported? in the current release they don't work

[hearty shard]

ur goated

[unique crane]

Uhhhh i dont know anything about that

[limber silo]

they do work

they should at least

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi/Features/Permissions/Providers/DefaultPermissionsProvider.cs#L160

[upper vapor]

the code doesn't indicate that
e.g. jail.* doesn't resolve to jail.jail and jail.data

[limber silo]

It should work

idk test it and lmk

I was smoking weed or smt when I coded that

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

r u ever not

[limber silo]

I was in my comment every line era

looks pretty for some reason

[hearty shard]

i will crash out if i see comment for 1 + 1

you would do that

ur evil

[limber silo]

I mean it wasn't that bad

I think this would help new coders

👍🏼

[upper vapor]

the permission check doesn't look for occurrences of a wildcard though

wildcards should be processed here

[limber silo]

yeah no I see, this for example won't work, but it will work the other way around

[hearty shard]

this sort of check needs to be there

[limber silo]

no

needs to be where axwabo said

[hearty shard]

yes

i was referring to the check

[upper vapor]

server owners configuring every possible combination

[hearty shard]

going where ax posted

[upper vapor]

i'll make an issue ig

[hearty shard]

jesus fix it now

[limber silo]

This basically does this:
We have jail.test so it adds jail.*
to the permission superset, which basically makes it so when a plugin checks for jail.* it will give true

I have never seen a plugin doing that

it is the other way around

[limber silo]

I'm gonna fix it with my phone rn

I'm in a bus for 6 hours going back to madrid rn

[hearty shard]

yooo

[upper vapor]

6h bus ride

[upper vapor]

good luck :3

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/37

i also detailed how the SpecialPermissionsSuperset could be reused

[limber silo]

Okay there we go

Fresh phone ahh code

[limber silo]

oh nice

[limber silo]

actually thanks to the superset being smaller we may get an optimised result by using it here

[upper vapor]

ohhhh

[limber silo]

otherwise it would have to check the contains in the full permission set

[upper vapor]

[limber silo]

[hearty shard]

jesus r u evil

[limber silo]

stop saying I'm evil

[hearty shard]

its a question

a valid one

[limber silo]

sometimes

[unique crane]

Can we deport eve already?

[hearty shard]

NO

[unique crane]

[hearty shard]

deport lumi

[icy knoll]

does this also work with just * too?

[hearty shard]

sacrifice the evil fiends

[icy knoll]

what the fuck did i do

😭

[mild ice]

Yes

[hearty shard]

im taking pickles hostage

[limber silo]

.* yes

[mild ice]

Pickles is in protective custody

[icy knoll]

no, i mean just * which means all permissions, not .*

[upper vapor]

regex in configs

[limber silo]

let's see, * in permissions file will add * to the permissions, so if a plugin is checking for * it will work

but if a plugin is checking for .* it won't work if the user sets * to the file, so I'll add that just in case

[icy knoll]

yeah, because the owner of the server will put * in the owner role because they want permissions to do everything in every plugin

doing plugin.* for everything is not really the best idea lol

[hearty shard]

.* would be all plugins

[limber silo]

well that is what everyone does

indeed exiled perms do that iirc by default on owner

[hearty shard]

yes

well

not plugin.

just .*

[upper vapor]

if only we could optimize this with spans and HashSet.GetAlternateLookup :((

[icy knoll]

why not *

[hearty shard]

because thats not what exiled does

[upper vapor]

NWAPI used .* too

[hearty shard]

yes

[upper vapor]

i'd argue that * does make sense

that could just be a bool cached on perms reload

[restive turret]

*.*

[hearty shard]

or just permissiongroup HasAllPerms: true

[upper vapor]

yea

i mean

the ICommandSender has a bool FullPermissions

[restive turret]

Or just don't check permission

[upper vapor]

PlayerSensitiveDataAccess and SetGroup for everyone

[restive turret]

Cant wait to see 127.0.0.1:34953 on ra

[hearty shard]

if you give everyone perms, you dont need to worry about permission checking

[restive turret]

Yup

Working on test server where I would host testing stuff

[icy knoll]

every mc permission manager used * for all permissions, and that’s the standard for every other game that has community hosted servers except scpsl ig lol

[hearty shard]

in the end

it doesnt matter

[restive turret]

you will not get that permission

[hearty shard]

if the example shows clearly how it should be its a user issue to fail it

in 3 years of exiled havent seen someone ask about the .*

[limber silo]

there we go

another round of free mobile code

[hearty shard]

ez

whys it yaml ignore

oh its not settable in config, just set if it has *

[upper vapor]

why = false

[hearty shard]

default to false probably

[upper vapor]

false is the default though

[hearty shard]

well

its jesus

[upper vapor]

9 extra characters!!1!1!!!

[hearty shard]

8**

[restive turret]

To must be false no matter what

[hearty shard]

well

actually

i missed a space

im stoopid

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

hi slej

[restive turret]

Hi stoopid I'm SlejmUr

[hearty shard]

im gonna stab you

never to be seen again

[limber silo]

okay well what if microsoft tomorrow decides it to set it to true huh

You never know

that would be wild

[restive turret]

How did you know what I write before I even sent it?

[hearty shard]

im better

[restive turret]

Nah

[hearty shard]

fak u

[restive turret]

dinner first!

[limber silo]

I'm gonna make this a node tree istg

but well, the truth is, labapi was gonna be released without perms because they were not seen as a priority

[hearty shard]

make a custom collection thats super duper optimized

[limber silo]

I didn't agree

[hearty shard]

permissions should exist in it yes

[limber silo]

So I came up with the permissions provider and the default thing in a few hours

[hearty shard]

thank the jesus

[restive turret]

Can't wait to see the next labapi push

[upper vapor]

[faint sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1151874214995955842/1307831735425175622/togif.gif

[hearty shard]

you

[faint sparrow]

nah

[true cedar]

it pisses me off how microsoft did that

they really should've had an IAlternateLookup<T> interface with a like, GetHashCodeAs(T t) and EqualsAs(T t) or wtv

then you could have Dictionary<TKey, TValue>.AlternateGet<TAlternate>(TAlternate key) where TAlternate : IAlternateLookup<TKey>

[hearty shard]

um

i managed to remove lockers by accident

or well

invis?

idk

[stable shore]

Peak

[hearty shard]

erm

it fixed itself

xd

[wheat flower]

culling moment?

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-14775355507101249023

[hearty shard]

restart fixed it

i thought it was because of the door not being open
but

door was wide open

[wheat flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1270170808047636621/1279283129013502033/2lztwb1e2nja1.gif

[hearty shard]

so true

[unique crane]

You need to open the door

to the room

Silly

[hearty shard]

I did

Only that room

But same room worked fine next round sooo

idk

Unless it has to be the small door and not the gate

[restive turret]

Please spawn more locker ther

[unique crane]

i think it has to be the smol door

[hearty shard]

I always thought gate triggered it

Wtf

Since when

[unique crane]

Honestly

Idk

[hearty shard]

Ur getting cooked

[restive turret]

Just cull the whole map

[pulsar charm]

is labapi meant to replace nwapi all together or will nwapi be continued as a seperate thing?

[upper pike]

Completely replace

!nwapi

[regal lake]

NWAPI has been retired, you can obtain the new and improved LabAPI by clicking the reaction in #1333484143937458248

[upper vapor]

Did you add which door is the spawning of the locker triggered by?

[carmine prawn]

I'm a very greedy person

Can we make Hint cover the entire screen?

unable to reach far right

but you can reach the far far left

max far left is <align=left><pos=-1198>

[worthy rune]

have you tried this?

[icy knoll]

that's not far right tho

that's far left

😭

[hearty shard]

...

yeahj

but

you can just

reverse it...

[icy knoll]

doesn't work

we already tried it :3

well not me

someone else did

[carmine prawn]

yep

another NW moment

[hearty shard]

wouldnt this be unity moment

[worthy rune]

its more TMP breaking, you shouldnt be able to go that far to the left to begin with

[hearty shard]

clearly NWs fault

cant believe this

[carmine prawn]

but it can 1198px to the far left

[hearty shard]

i hate NW so much

💔

clearly should make ur own engine

[carmine prawn]

northwood studio acquisition unity, plz

[true cedar]

try <width=500><space=500><alpha=#00>ttttttttt <alpha=#ff>hello world

i can try making it work for the other side later tn

[feral haven]

Okay, is it just me or does this look wrong?
Like, isn't y Vertical and x Horizontal?

Or is it different because it's Vector2 to Vector3?

[icy knoll]

wait yeah that's the wrong way around

x is always side to side and y is always up and down

[feral haven]

Thought so xD

[true cedar]

this works for the right sside

decrease the pos to make it go to the right more

also works for the left side

[unique crane]

Rotation is defined around the axis vector

With y going up then the rotation is around you horizontally

And X goes right so it's up and down

[worthy rune]

i think its better to explain it as pitch and yaw instead, as changing the y rot will mean different x and z rots for the pitch

[carmine prawn]

nope

[shut karma]

whats the best way to test plugins i write?

[ashen hornet]

I use dedicated server from steam

[upper pike]

Isnt that basically the only way

[true cedar]

that's outside of the hint display im psure

play with the indent / pos a bit

[upper vapor]

the plugin manager is still in LA, will it be updated to support LabAPI?

[carmine prawn]

#serverhost-cat message

@wicked cloak can we talk about this function?

I'm very curious about how this works

[wicked cloak]

aye sure

so basically it just send a fake effect to you

if to be more precise, the server makes the spectator think that some player has the goggles effect

so it enables that effect for spectator, but not for the actual player

[wicked cloak]

also i have released it tho
#1342807180478251129 message

[carmine prawn]

very clever approach

thanks

[restive turret]

#No Access

[spring swan]

Lowkey forgot this existed

[wheat flower]

Same

[carmine prawn]

in exlied channel

!ex

!exiled

[restive turret]

Exiled no longer exists

LabAPI remaining

[upper vapor]

counter-terrorists win

[restive hull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296842313011695646/1346837558474309652/Screenshot_1580.gif

[hazy kelp]

So, LabAPI is lunch at 14.1?

[marble rock]

yum, lunch

[ashen hound]

where is mine?

[marble rock]

ask your manager

[icy knoll]

if everything goes swimmingly, yes

[icy knoll]

this will solve the issue with underpopulated sl servers

[ashen hound]

what will happen you will leave but server will take your soul

and you will never join again

[icy knoll]

what would actually happen tho

[ashen hound]

if that was possible simply server will don't destroy your player object and keep it

you will leave server and think you left but server still sees you that you are on server

normally its not possible to cancel player leaving because event is already executed when object is being destroyed

[unique crane]

Cancelling on left event will make a dummy and unable to join ever again

[carmine prawn]

hubert's basement belike:

[unique crane]

[restive turret]

Yo, I have a question,
I want a Scientist to do 2x damage to NTF and dont do any damage to Guards, how would be possible?

[unique crane]

Well

OnTakingDamage or however is it called

I think you can get the damage handler from there

and set the damage

[restive turret]

but is it getting called even if under same team?

[unique crane]

Not if you have FF off

i guess

[restive turret]

but i dont want to enable ff serverwide

[mild ice]

If ff isn't on Scientists wouldn't damage guards anyway

[main zenith]

Yeah its works in case damage is set to 0 even the hit mark not gonna show up

[mild ice]

Wait nvm

Ignore me

[restive turret]

Its PlayerHurtingEvent, hmm I test it

[main zenith]

btw i need to ask, does Firearms are currently limited? like i cant find method to set ammo in firearm

[hearty shard]

Um

[unique crane]

This is fully possible

Get the magazine module

And there is property or method somewhere

[hearty shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279531164687667331/1308056930782285865/attachment.gif

[unique crane]

hi eveee

[hearty shard]

Haiii

[main zenith]

alright thanks for help

[icy knoll]

you when ur doing ur nerd stuff

[hearty shard]

False

[true cedar]

if you make pos negative you can go even farther to the left

[rustic bolt]

There are spelling mistakes in the documentation, for example, instead of CustomEventsHandler there is CustomEventHandlers, likewise for CustomHandlersManager.RegisterEventsHandler<T>(T) there is CustomHandlersManager.RegisterEventHandlers<T>(T). It confused me for a moment.
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/wiki/Using-Custom-Event-Handlers

[harsh thorn]

i updated the doc page

[rustic bolt]

there's still spelling error: CustomEventHandler instead of CustomEventsHandler
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/c740717904c97c24448e966db9e8d89f43558c11/LabApi/Events/CustomHandlers/CustomEventHandlers.cs#L10

[harsh thorn]

updated it again

[rustic bolt]

same for register and unregister
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/c740717904c97c24448e966db9e8d89f43558c11/LabApi/Events/CustomHandlers/CustomHandlersManager.cs#L17
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/c740717904c97c24448e966db9e8d89f43558c11/LabApi/Events/CustomHandlers/CustomHandlersManager.cs#L29

[harsh thorn]

should be all of them changed properly now then

[shrewd surge]

gonna move this here

can someone explain why the game makes every client execute all custom keybinds on spawn

[upper pike]

What?

[shrewd surge]

When i spawn, my client executes all server based settings. Its very annoyinng.

someone said that its probably to see what does what, etc

i mean i have an audio plugin that has 9 different categorys. Spawning and being jumpscared with all of them playing at once is not fun

[upper vapor]

Keybinds aren't assigned by default to prevent key logging

[shrewd surge]

I mean mine are assigned and every single one assigned at the beginning

[upper vapor]

That shouldn't be the case

[shrewd surge]

I just want to know if there is a way to prevent this or what

[upper vapor]

For me it's unset when I add a new setting

[shrewd surge]

Lets say its the waiting for players screen. I assign them. When i spawn, all are executed

[upper vapor]

I guess you could track how long a player has been connected and suppress keybinds in the first x seconds

[upper vapor]

@ hubert

[stable shore]

!hubertping

[regal lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/346850631820115972/463888452727865364/Error_Message.png

[shrewd surge]

So whats up this hubert thing? Who is hubert

[upper vapor]

if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.None))
Trigger();

[limber silo]

hubert is the creator

[shrewd surge]

Oh

OOH

[limber silo]

he made the world

[shrewd surge]

All hail hubert

[limber silo]

and the universe

[obtuse spruce]

somes wrappers for AdminToys gonna be add soon to LabAPI ?

[carmine prawn]

I hope so

Assembly-CSharp question

Can I know a Spectator is looking who without using a dictionary?

[upper vapor]

SpectatorRole.SyncSpectatedNetId

[hearty shard]

SpectatorRole has whos being spectated

[unique crane]

There is property in Player?

[hearty shard]

yes

[hearty shard]

oh

lmao

[unique crane]

I think

[carmine prawn]

💀

[unique crane]

100% there is who is the player spectating

[hearty shard]

well

at least its in SpectatorRole

[unique crane]

Yea ofc

[carmine prawn]

I tried SpectatorRole, but it confuses me

[hearty shard]

2sec

[carmine prawn]

[upper vapor]

why does that use a list pool

😭

rent and hope that the caller returns it

no indication

nvm

[unique crane]

"Gets a pooled list"

[upper vapor]

is anybody gonna notice that though

[unique crane]

Not my problem lol

[upper vapor]

true

oh well

[hearty shard]

in the end its performance related

creating a new list is bad

if you already have an empty one

[unique crane]

Best I can do is create enumerator and yield return them

[hearty shard]

honestly

[unique crane]

Thats also a possible solution

[hearty shard]

it shouldnt be list

[upper vapor]

there could be a method which takes in a list and adds the players to it

[hearty shard]

IEnumerable or something else readonly

[upper vapor]

you could just use linq

[hearty shard]

true

[unique crane]

maybe

[sick flume]

Is it possible to apply for an API key for api.scpslgame.com?

[hearty shard]

1st is for the ENTIRE list

2nd is just !api in console

[sick flume]

Thanks!

[true cedar]

yea just make it an iterator lol

or wtv

[hearty shard]

You.

Nerd

[true cedar]

what the hell

blocked

[true cedar]

hpw r u

[hearty shard]

im good

[hearty shard]

No u

[main zenith]

Is there a way to set custom value for firearms stats like fire rate, Weight etc.?

[hearty shard]

Weight, yes

Rest no

[main zenith]

Damn that kinda bad and disadvantage for making custom weapons

[unique crane]

Firearm modding is planned

[main zenith]

Lets go

[upper pike]

How much does LabAPI support rn

So weight, but what about damage and penetration

[main zenith]

Damage u can change by getting damage handler

[unique crane]

You can do that via event technically

Yea

[unique crane]

Just what you can do base game

for firearms

[main zenith]

Pentration i dont think so

[unique crane]

That is calculated with damage

[upper pike]

Is it possible to change fire rate. I think ive heard people do that before

[unique crane]

Causes desync

But it does work

[main zenith]

Nope i already aks today xD

[main zenith]

.

[unique crane]

Like you can do that

but its going to be server-side only

so like clients still see the animation at normal fire rate

but it doesnt do any damage or cause bullet hole

[main zenith]

Well worth knowing but still its sounds kinda impractical

[unique crane]

well

wait for the modding support

[main zenith]

Alright

[upper vapor]

You can also change accuracies by messing with attachment parameters
It's easy to make a 100% accurate gun, setting exact values is trickier

[restive turret]

2039

[main zenith]

~~demo ~~

[carmine prawn]

What is Hazard

also EnvironmentalHazard

[languid temple]

Falling to your death for example

in the old 939 room

[carmine prawn]

cool

[hearty shard]

173 tantrum

Sinkhole

939 cloud

[restive turret]

A flipflop

[worthy rune]

@hearty shard https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/41 whats a SSSS permissions?

[hearty shard]

the new settings menu

[worthy rune]

yeah i have used it, i never seen a permission setting tho

[hearty shard]

if you only want specific players to see you have to like .Where() and like .ToArray()

[hearty shard]

mb on the wording

referring to locking it behind a permission

and only showing the ones u have permissions for

[worthy rune]

uhh

base game does not join them, i guess it would be up to the developer to only send the ones needed

[hearty shard]

yeah

im asking for it to be easier

than .Where() with a dictionary of ids to the permission and then going back to an array

[worthy rune]

i mean we dont have a SSSS wrappers yet, i have some ideas but they are rather out there so i have not gone far with them

[hearty shard]

i mean a wrapper would probably be required

but yeah

i have no clue on how to handle it in a good way for labapi

[worthy rune]

also i would generalize the API so you are not forced to filter by permissions, but rather you provide a predicate instead

[hearty shard]

yea

also when are permissions synced compared to the Joined event ?

like the group being created

cuz exiled requires a delay to check perms on join

[worthy rune]

which event, is that happening in?

[hearty shard]

Verified

[worthy rune]

hmmm

[hearty shard]

there is group change event, but thats only for ppl getting a group

[worthy rune]

OnJoin should be the same as Verified as it happens on authentication

[hearty shard]

i dont like having a required delay on it

[worthy rune]

in the past with NwAPI i just delayed by one frame e.g. Timing.CallDelayed(0.0f, () => ...);

There was also the OnGroupSet event in NwAPI, i think thats still here?

[hearty shard]

but smth thats called when a group is given is only yk done on group given

[worthy rune]

which is fired when someones joins and they have a group

[hearty shard]

sometimes u need to check for empty group, but that requires a delay

i mean ig you could send all the SSSS that require no perms on Joined, and then if group is given do it again with the perm check

no clue

[worthy rune]

i would just use a delay xD not like other code depends on you sending the SSSS a frame earlier

[hearty shard]

true

thats what i currently have

[hearty shard]

is this a better description of it ?

[carmine prawn]

How can I make an SCPs invisible?

ChangeAppearance to filmmaker is not work for SCPs (but it's useful for humans)

#plugins-discussion message

Like patch the VisibilityController?

but how

[hearty shard]

eexiled does this

patch FpcServerPositionDistributor.WriteAll

[carmine prawn]

ChangeAppearance is the exiled method, but it doesn't work with SCPs (maybe it's an error after I ported it to LabAPI)

[hearty shard]

im saying exiled has IsInvisible

[carmine prawn]

Oh

[hearty shard]

but i thought since u were asking in labapi you wanted labapi not exiled

[hearty shard]

its in FpcRole

[carmine prawn]

I'll look for possible ways, thanks

[hearty shard]

wdym look for possible ways

i just gave it...

[carmine prawn]

yes

but I'm stupid

[hearty shard]

if (player.Role is FpcRole fpc)
fpc.IsInvisible = true;

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/Axwabo/AdminTools-NWAPI/blob/master/AdminTools/Patches/GhostPatch.cs

[still notch]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[hearty shard]

W david

now rework candy.

[still notch]

bro didn't wait

[unique crane]

Cant you just give them invis effect

[hearty shard]

gives a stinky like purple effect

might not want that

[true cedar]

u can just fake an effect i think

like

send the invisible effect to all players except the scp

[rugged laurel]

Or be cool and change their appearance to spectator

[carmine prawn]

Great! It was exactly what I needed

[restive turret]

Labbing on the api

[hearty shard]

what the flip

[unique crane]

Me on my way to do this base game

maybe

idk

[upper vapor]

sobbing

[restive turret]

Do it

No

[tulip kiln]

I just send fake messages to clients saying that the target scp is Spectator

works well

(Excluding spectators since they wouldn't be able to spectate otherwise)

[carmine prawn]

yep, it's doable

what the f am I doing on Patch

[wide fable]

Is there a labapi server branch and if yes, is it backwards compatible?

[icy knoll]

yes, no

[wide fable]

Thx :)

[carmine prawn]

why Generator.List is an empty list default?

I need to touch the generator then to find it in the List

[restive turret]

did you waited the map to generate ?

[carmine prawn]

maybe

If I touch it, it will appear in the list

Is this deliberate design?

[worthy rune]

shouldnt be empty, i cant replicate it either so it might be only broken in the current version

[carmine prawn]

add it to issues

[icy knoll]

don't do that if it's already fixed.

[carmine prawn]

at least in 14.0.3-labapi-publicbeta-5bf276ee, it was broken

[harsh thorn]

a new update has not been released yet, it is fixed on the dev branch in github

[real violet]

ello

[hearty shard]

dead chat 💔

[marble rock]

idk you made it beat for a moment

[hearty shard]

im gonna eat the chat

[languid temple]

im not even surprised smh

[hearty shard]

guh

[hazy kelp]

Can't LabAPI split plugins by ports?

[icy knoll]

not rn

[harsh thorn]

it will be implemented before the public release on the default branch

[upper vapor]

It's been implemented, we just don't have access to that build :(

[stable shore]

Mods, push to public

[wicked cloak]

does labapi support plugin autoupdater

like the nwapi

[upper vapor]

Very unlikely
#plugins-dev-chat message

[hearty shard]

not everything is updated fully yet

LA likely will be fixed for it

[upper vapor]

At zabszk

[gilded thicket]

delete labapi

[sick flume]

Is it possible to get the server ID from LabAPI or NWAPI?

[worthy rune]

server id?

[sick flume]

Yes, the id of a verified server

[worthy rune]

not sure what that is

if your talking about https://support.scpslgame.com/article/61, you wouldnt need it from a plugin since

[harsh thorn]

technically it is possible to invoce the !id central server command from a plugin

but the sl server does not have the id naturally

[icy knoll]

why would one even want it

[harsh thorn]

[upper vapor]

Statistics maybe

spying

[restive turret]

spying on your own server

[carmine prawn]

👁️ 👁️

[spring swan]

Spying?

[unique crane]

@hearty shard

[hearty shard]

You

finally

did it

im so happy

best dev 2025

can i see the new code or do i gotta wait

[unique crane]

:3

well

There isnt like anything super secret

so I guess?

[hearty shard]

yippie!

[unique crane]

None acts as a random

Its in xml docs too

[hearty shard]

what about ShouldSever

[unique crane]

Thats allowPunishment

[hearty shard]

does that work even if it wasnt originally intended to sever ?

eg making it max 1 candy

[hearty shard]

yea

so you cant rly change it below 2

[unique crane]

You can?

[hearty shard]

am i going insane

[unique crane]

You got prevUses argument

and allowPunishment

[hearty shard]

oh

so you have to set prevUses to something else

okay

ill just set it to 0 ig

[unique crane]

Or set allowPunishment to false/true

[hearty shard]

doesnt work for allowing only 1 candy before sever

you have to set the prevUses to 2 or more

[unique crane]

Oh

Oh

I see

Well then set both XD

[hearty shard]

😭

alright

[unique crane]

Allow punishment just disables you getting killed if you picked more than 2

[hearty shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224349383932510329/1348774543573123092/togif.gif

im gonna silence you after this

[unique crane]

huh

[restive turret]

yippe candy event

[ashen hornet]

I also have the same issue now

Unable to compile LabAPI at all, lol

Changing it to net standard 2.1 and back to 48 doens't work for me

[hearty shard]

You compiled on netstandard ?

[ashen hornet]

I think it did compile, ye

[hearty shard]

idk then

cuz that was my fix

[ashen hornet]

I'm trying to build through CLI but that kinda doesn't work

[hearty shard]

yea its not IDE issue doesnt seem

dotnet issue moment

also cant use Queue when using mscorlib so

[restive turret]

Just don't use unitys mscorelib

[upper vapor]

System.Reflection.Label also doesn't work

[hearty shard]

💔

[upper vapor]

As much as I love spans, I can't use them in SL along with other stuff :(

Maybe if we replicate a Unity-generated (awful) csproj then it's possible

[worthy rune]

hmm i was able to use queue by adding <DisableImplicitFrameworkReferences>true<DisableImplicitFrameworkReferences/> to the csproj and adding references to the unity provided system dlls

[hearty shard]

oh

[worthy rune]

the above doesnt work for michal since for some reason the default mscorlib doesnt get removed while all other references do

[upper vapor]

Whar

[worthy rune]

typo i meant mscorlib doesnt get removed when it should

[upper vapor]

Yeah

Okay that makes sense

[restive turret]

Maybe stripping the ymldotnets attribute stuff (or just setting that to public) should be good

[carmine prawn]

Can we make ServerSpecificSettingsSync::ServerDeserializeClientResponse filter ReferenceHub::isLocalPlayer by default?

I'm working on a multi-page SpecificSetting, and I've found that if isLocalPlayer is not filtered, it corrupts the ServerOnSettingValueReceived for normal players

This question has been tormenting me for a long time

I really don't want to see other developers get bothered like that

[wheat flower]

Finally someone had same problem as me

yes

plese fix that

[unique crane]

Put this in #1274618202227216414 or github

Not gonna rememeber it otherwise

[hearty shard]

omg david

[unique crane]

haiii

[hearty shard]

halloo

[carmine prawn]

Added

Can we... https://github.com/HubertMoszka/Server-Specific-Settings-System/issues

[worthy rune]

just put your issues on the labapi github, its more likely to be seen there

[carmine prawn]

ok

[hearty shard]

only thing that repo is for is examples

[still notch]

I already have a multi-page system if you want 👀

But yes i agree

[true cedar]

i am curious how other people do their systems

[upper vapor]

How did you deal with IDs? Do you take the stable hash code of each setting wrapper's type?

[true cedar]

i was thinking of doing something like that but realized trying to get a stable hash code of a type would be a bad idea

would have to rely on something like the name

[upper vapor]

Maybe I'm dumb but why would the hash code cause issues?

[true cedar]

its just like

how would you reliably generate a stable hash code for a type

that persists across compilations

[unique crane]

Well hash code is meant to be the same for same object

That's literally it's purpose

[upper vapor]

Mirror has an extension method that takes the full name of the type

That's also used in the base game, e.g. for damage handler (de)serialization

NetworkMessage IDs also depend on it

Imagine if the message IDs changed every time you rebuilt SL or every time someone opened the gamr

[still notch]

#1341884121667993630
Every menu have a hash by name

And i still need to fixs some things, but the first point or my plugin is to sync every SS system from other plugins into one multi page system

[upper vapor]

Wouldn't that cause conflicts?

[true cedar]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[thin shuttle]

You should put Scp330Candies.GetRandom() before the event in my opinion

[unique crane]

Oh yea I changed that during QA testing

dw

[thin shuttle]

good

:)

when is next release

[unique crane]

idk

[thin shuttle]

so i can update exiled with new event

[unique crane]

not up to me

[thin shuttle]

i know

[unique crane]

And ced said he doesnt have much time rn

Nor do I to be honest

Matura soon

[thin shuttle]

#serverhost-suggestions do you have access to this chanel ?

[unique crane]

ofc xd

[thin shuttle]

you can also keep track of it because some people put good things than can be made client side but that required LabAPI dev if we don't want to wait 4 years

this two for example

[unique crane]

Im gonna do just smaller scale changes right now

and start doing big refactors from June

[thin shuttle]

Disarming would be good

[restive turret]

Scale = new(2, 2, 2);

[thin shuttle]

because we can't cancel or permit disarming on server

before it finish the circle

[restive turret]

Disarm is good

[unique crane]

Unless riptide of x3rt got time

[thin shuttle]

please tell me than there no more Weapon change

[unique crane]

Wdym

[thin shuttle]

we get weapon update at every update

[unique crane]

Yeaa I dont think weapon modding will make it in 14.1 xd

[thin shuttle]

no

i don't mean that

[restive turret]

yes

[thin shuttle]

i mean weapon getting changed

[unique crane]

Apart from 127 I dont think there were any changes?

[thin shuttle]

there no update of SCP:SL without an Weapon

[restive turret]

dw it will be changed bc of the new scp weapon

[worthy rune]

i think the refactoring is referring to the labapi itself, its overdue for one

[restive turret]

Slowly refactorying the whole game

[true cedar]

also do u any of u know how to make ss settings save across multiple servers? we already have a database, so i was thinking of just setting the default value for the setting the value from the database (e.g. if player joins server A, sets the value of setting Q to something, when they join server B the default value of setting Q will be that something) but this neglects the problem where someone joins one server, updates a setting, joins a different server and updates that setting, and joins the original server (since it's going to use the client value so it'll prob ignore the default value)

[worthy rune]

currently you have to change the id to give a new default value

[true cedar]

goddamnit

[hearty shard]

or +1 to the version override right

or not i might be crazy

[true cedar]

that throws a wrench into my plans

[worthy rune]

never used it for that, i thought version was an internal thing. you can certainly try tho

[hearty shard]

well

hm

[true cedar]

no the client sends its version

i dont know if it actually does anything tho'

[hearty shard]

uhhh

server sends it to client too

so i assume client just tells server that it has the settings from X version

idk

[true cedar]

yea i think so

[hearty shard]

server is told this

from client

[true cedar]

fml

ig i need to send a fake id then

to force the default value to be used

does the client not send the value for all of the settings at once??

when they join

[restive turret]

Just use idk int middle thing

start at around 1484_

[true cedar]

what

[restive turret]

It might be because some other plugins using the same number for identifying a SSS stuff

[hearty shard]

no

they use only custom plugins at dr brights to my knowledge (except maybe MER)

but

yea

anyway i want opinions on https://github.com/Misfiy/SecretAPI/pull/13/files#diff-d1755458a9a470a3e3f874e7d636c2a384115008fa6b1a1d8da416f85790c810

[restive turret]

ohhhhh.
yeah well

wrap these nuts

[hearty shard]

...........................

IM GONNA KILL YOU

[unique crane]

Yeah kill him instead

of me

[restive turret]

oh I would be entilted

finally

[hearty shard]

you

look at it!!!

[unique crane]

Look at what

[hearty shard]

the pr i made for my thing

SSSS wrapper

i need opinions on how im handling it

[unique crane]

Well

Im going to eep in like 5 mins

soooo

tomorrow

[feral haven]

God, I wish I could make custom effects that modify a players movement speed -w-

[hearty shard]

you can (not)

[feral haven]

:firT:

Dang-

[hearty shard]

guh

[feral haven]

So does that mean you can or you can't?

[hearty shard]

you can (not)

you cant

sadly

do wish we could sync it a bit

but i understand why we cant

[feral haven]

We can change the stamina, why can't we change the Movement Speed?

[unique crane]

There... Is..

@feral haven

[feral haven]

I don't understand

[unique crane]

You can change player speed

there is status effect for that

[hearty shard]

MovementBoost effect

but custom effects

[unique crane]

Yea

Oh

[hearty shard]

because basegame uses the effect and you might not want to reuse it

[feral haven]

I want to be able to make a custom effect that has the same properties as Movement Boost

But I can't -w-

[unique crane]

But can't you just use movement boost?

[feral haven]

Because all of the Movement Speed stuff is handled client side

No

[unique crane]

Why not

[feral haven]

Overriden by Yellow candy and stuff like that

[hearty shard]

you also cant modify cola speeds well because its client sided so you have to mess with stuff like movementboost and slowness

[hearty shard]

^^

primary reason is movementboost is used by plugins for temp boosts usually

[unique crane]

Candy adds movement boost

[hearty shard]

yes

[unique crane]

Not overrides

[feral haven]

Well, I tried setting the Speed multiplier to 1.05. It just made it desync

[hearty shard]

yes because its not synced

[feral haven]

Yeah

[unique crane]

Yea

[hearty shard]

you can make custom effects

just not synced

which is what i have asked for a while, but ofc its kinda difficult to do ig

[feral haven]

Well, you can make one that modifiers a players stamina regen and usage

[unique crane]

I've never looked or tried any custom effects

[hearty shard]

i have code for it

public

its a bit silly tho

[feral haven]

Not really, just make a variable that the server checks or smth and then you can modify that
Same with ServerRegenRate and ServerUsageRate in FpcStateProcessor

[hearty shard]

What

I meant syncing the effects

Ive asked nw for ability to sync custom effects

[feral haven]

Well that's hard, obviously

[hearty shard]

not for the ability to change stamina

[hearty shard]

Yes

Thats what i said

xd

[feral haven]

I was talking about modifying Movement speed

[hearty shard]

which id prefer was done through effects

[unique crane]

I could like idk

[hearty shard]

custom lnes

ones*

[unique crane]

Take the movement boost code

And put it in fpc motor

[hearty shard]

the weird part is just having client understand that the effect exists when only server has it and client cant (since no sending files)

[unique crane]

So it's independent from the status effect

[hearty shard]

true

would help

[feral haven]

All you'd need to add is just a method the Server calls that modifies the Movement Speed variable

or checks it or smth

And then we can patch that or whatever 🙏🏻

[hearty shard]

Idk why nw removed it tbh

I cant remember the reason

[unique crane]

Prob exactly same code I did for gravity

Lol

[hearty shard]

david reverting the revert

[feral haven]

Mmm, I think it was in the FirstPersonMovementController

Yeah, this here

[unique crane]

That one has the fpc motors and such

[feral haven]

Just make that be run by the Server or smth, please 🙏🏻

Then it's not fully client side :P

[unique crane]

Well it surely is run by the server?

[feral haven]

VelocityForState is only run client-side

[hearty shard]

movement speed is client

[feral haven]

Yeah

[hearty shard]

(and server)

[unique crane]

On

[hearty shard]

its a mix

[feral haven]

Well, both of them use it, but you can't modify it for a player/client

[hearty shard]

both do speed checks so if you change server it will desync

i remember accidentally causing a desync when messing with stamina

[feral haven]

I tried so many patches 😢

[unique crane]

Well it just doesn't get synced to the client

[feral haven]

I had that happen before too xD
Got so bad that items duplicated in players inventories

[hearty shard]

what the flip

[feral haven]

Because it's not a SyncVar 😔

[hearty shard]

honestly

this game sucks!!!

[feral haven]

Lmao

[hearty shard]

david make sl great again

[unique crane]

Is there any syncvar in any status effect

[hearty shard]

no

[feral haven]

We pray for Plugin Developer support 🙏🏻

[hearty shard]

You need a network object

To have a syncvar

[unique crane]

Ik

[feral haven]

Only thing that's "synced" is the ServerSetState

and ServerChangeDuration

[hearty shard]

yea intensity and duration

or only intensity

i forget

[unique crane]

Whenever I play SL someone tells me to fix something ):

[feral haven]

I think it was called SyncStat?

or smth

[unique crane]

(it's plugin fault)

[hearty shard]

uhhh

is it

i dont think thats what effects use

[unique crane]

That's for

Hp and such

[hearty shard]

Yea

[feral haven]

Oh right

My bad

:P

[hearty shard]

xd

but yeah

David is there any way you could think of syncing a custom effect

I feel like its a no cuz client kinda needs it

[feral haven]

Wait a sec

Ah, only syncs the Intensities

[hearty shard]

yeah

[unique crane]

Well

[feral haven]

Man, for a second I thought it would sync all of it :/

[unique crane]

Depends what you want to sync

[feral haven]

Movement Speed, that's all I ask for

🙏🏻

[unique crane]

Okay I'll do it with scale I guess