#help-with-wearables

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remote oar
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ok

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Nothing changed haha

mint goblet
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did you set the pin and langth?

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and did it say it uploaded ?

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may or may not have maid said mistake in the past

remote oar
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I set it to 8 and I always use pin 6

strange fjord
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Maid-sama?

remote oar
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It looks like the first two are yellow

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and the third it starts going weird

mint goblet
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on the strand test or yours?

candid cosmos
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Those LED sequins are still lit? They need to be all shut down.

strange fjord
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Doing this cosplay?

remote oar
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I cant shut them down I will cry haha

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plus all the other neopixels will be unconnected too

candid cosmos
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  1. There is no crying in electronics. 2. Sometimes in troubleshooting, you gotta tear down and work your way back up.
mint goblet
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  1. If there is crying, something could get wet, and that would be bad.
candid cosmos
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The journey of a long string of lights begins with a single neopixel.

candid cosmos
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well, if things don't work out in time for the show, there's always the fairy lights from the craft store.

mint goblet
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but have hope, we will try and help

candid cosmos
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US Army Engineers motto "Essayons" - Let Us Try.

mint goblet
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@NoobTeacher#1374 have you had any luck?

remote oar
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I've got about 2 months left to complete them. I'll update you guys. But I am going to start second one and just be more careful with the sewing. I might start with just the neopixels then add the leds afterwards too.

mint goblet
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will the back be seen @remote oar ?

remote oar
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Nope, it will be sewn to the costume.

mint goblet
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well you could skip the thread and use silicone wire with yellow electrical tape

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it will save you alot of trouble and with practice be fairly flat

remote oar
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I've already got the thread, it will take a few weeks for that to ship etc and apply through the budget haha, drama.

mint goblet
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weeks ? where are you that shipping is so slow?

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also you could likely get in localy for less then $5

remote oar
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Alright so i wanted to start simple and keep building because one of my set of llights somehwere in the mix was probably sewn incorrectly. Now I cannot get two to work at all haha

mint goblet
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it looks like to have the clips on the 2nd in that series ?

remote oar
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should I connect down at the first light? hmm

mint goblet
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yeah

remote oar
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still no go

mint goblet
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the micro controller is on ? and the gators are going neg to ground post to 3.3v (or VBAT)

remote oar
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Yeah and i changed the code to test 2 neopixels instead of 8

mint goblet
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did you checkt the sketch to be sure your on the right pin? , I have done that a fe times

remote oar
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pin 6 is declared

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it works when i just use the clips on two unsewn neopixels

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so annoying?

mint goblet
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yeah, it's part of why I hate thread

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can you post your sketch ?

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I have a small test strip so I can try and replicate your setup

mint goblet
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@remote oar I should be up for a wile to try and help, if your code works for me then we know it's the thread but seeing as it did not with the gator clips something esle may be up

remote oar
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// NeoPixel Ring simple sketch (c) 2013 Shae Erisson
// released under the GPLv3 license to match the rest of the AdaFruit NeoPixel library

#include <Adafruit_NeoPixel.h>
#ifdef AVR
#include <avr/power.h>
#endif

// Which pin on the Arduino is connected to the NeoPixels?
// On a Trinket or Gemma we suggest changing this to 1
#define PIN 6

// How many NeoPixels are attached to the Arduino?
#define NUMPIXELS 2
#define BRIGHTNESS 50

// When we setup the NeoPixel library, we tell it how many pixels, and which pin to use to send signals.
// Note that for older NeoPixel strips you might need to change the third parameter--see the strandtest
// example for more information on possible values.
Adafruit_NeoPixel pixels = Adafruit_NeoPixel(NUMPIXELS, PIN, NEO_GRB + NEO_KHZ800);

int delayval = 500; // delay for half a second

void setup() {
// This is for Trinket 5V 16MHz, you can remove these three lines if you are not using a Trinket
#if defined (AVR_ATtiny85)
if (F_CPU == 16000000) clock_prescale_set(clock_div_1);
#endif
// End of trinket special code
pixels.setBrightness(BRIGHTNESS);
pixels.begin(); // This initializes the NeoPixel library.
}

void loop() {

// For a set of NeoPixels the first NeoPixel is 0, second is 1, all the way up to the count of pixels minus one.

for(int i=0;i<NUMPIXELS;i++){

// pixels.Color takes RGB values, from 0,0,0 up to 255,255,255
pixels.setPixelColor(i, pixels.Color(254,190,8)); // .mcdonalds is 254, 194, 8    (GRB so green, red then blue)

pixels.show(); // This sends the updated pixel color to the hardware.

delay(delayval); // Delay for a period of time (in milliseconds).

}
}

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I connceted to 3.3 v instead of Vbatt and it worked. I am so silly

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Luckily I dont apparently mind being embaressed in this large community

green nest
mint goblet
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cool beans @NoobTeacher#1374 , if you do that for each next one as you go you should be okay

candid cosmos
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@remote oar Good to see you're getting things to work.

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in your code, you might need to put the seBrightness command after the pixels.begin if your neopixels have not dimmed to comfortable working brightness.

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  pixels.begin(); // This initializes the NeoPixel library.
  pixels.setBrightness(BRIGHTNESS);```
upbeat wing
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I'm working on adding a softpot to my PiGlass wearable

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Don't know if I'll able to mount it properly

candid cosmos
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@upbeat wing all the cool kids are taping things to their forehead - tegaderm. what do you have some kind of membrane touch strip?

upbeat wing
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yea

candid cosmos
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maybe 3d print a wider eyeglass arm or something

upbeat wing
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thats what i was thinking like a clip on flat section

upbeat wing
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i just got the code working with my camera

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swipe forward to zoom in, back to zoom out, tap for picture and then i have a positional based zoom control as well if you hold your finger down in the same spot

candid cosmos
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nice, throw in a tilt switch or get accelerometer vector to lean in closer to enlarge or lean back to zoom out.

mint goblet
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I actualy need to work out a project for mine

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I keep getting ideas, but none of them are really gooi for where i am at skillwise or partswise

upbeat wing
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@candid cosmos that would be cool, now that i have the camera working im going to try and do volume control

candid cosmos
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haha, that you lean over to the side to increase or decrease volume.

upbeat wing
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ill be using the softpot for now, i do have a berryIMU laying around somewhere

mint goblet
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@candid cosmos how about a matrix that says stop shakeing me when you shake it ?

candid cosmos
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that's when it gives off a puff of blue smoke.

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and sparkys

upbeat wing
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that would be awesome but after the smoke comes out... what then?

candid cosmos
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it slithers to the door, manipulates the door knob to open it and off it goes

mint goblet
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omg ideas

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the fire code.... i could make it blue

upbeat wing
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I'm going to try and demo my softpot zoom control on the next show and tell

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Circuitpython for the win!

light wigeon
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If you build the extra smoke into it you can just spit one off.

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Can you imagine a special LED matrix where you solder them all in, and the goal is to spectacularly puff one of 'em but none of the others? Like a flashbulb array.

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Flashbulbs had like a network of tiny filaments (think very fine steel wool, but not near as dense). When you energized the flashbulb, it went off with a very bright light, and maybe made a sound, too.
Then it was toasted -- often the plastic melted a little.
Flashcubes came four sides to a module, and were pluggable.

flat dagger
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On a scale of 1 - 10, how wearable would you rate an arduino mega?

rocky drift
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Between 3 and 4.

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With specific work, it'll be fine. By itself, it's moderately large

flat dagger
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Okay

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I guess my fitness tracker will be considered quite bulky then xP

rocky drift
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A 3D-printed belt clip and it'll sit nicely.

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Like an old walkman

flat dagger
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My current design is actually more like a 3D printed arm band

rocky drift
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That'll be large, yes.

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But they had those for the old iPods

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And they still have them for phones, some of which can be bigger than a Mega

flat dagger
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That is true

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It is more like a piece of plastic armor though xP

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I have the mega, a LCD, a real time clock, an IMU, and a bluetooth module

mint goblet
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Can you use a different board? Or is that just what you already have?

flat dagger
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I have a mega and an uno

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I might use the uno because I also need space for a small bread board, but it also has some problems with sending and receiving serial data

rocky drift
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Mmmm bread.

flat dagger
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arduino DIY "wearable" fitness tracker is coming along xP

rocky drift
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That looks pretty spiffy!

flat dagger
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I still need to attach that arduino in the background

jade maple
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Nice Pipboy!

brave tendon
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Are jumper cables capable of being permanent cables or no?

static delta
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@brave tendon you can solder them to your "things"

brave tendon
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I heard that male headers don’t connect permanently to female headers, is that true?

mortal edge
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@brave tendon what kind of jumper cables are you refering to?

brave tendon
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The standard premium ones sold on Adafruit’s site.

mortal edge
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correct. they do not connect permanently.

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depending on your application, you can use them like permanent cables. or maybe semi-permanent is a better term.

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i've done that. where i've got various modules (pi, sensors, etc) that all have 0.1" header pins, buried in a project.

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i used those style cables to tie everything together and called it good

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ok for sits-on-a-shelf like projects, but if you're trying to put these in orbit, then you might want something a little more permanent

static delta
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soldering them, they can work like any other wire. if you are intending to use them in headers, then no, it can be fine for some projects but as @mortal edge said, if you are creating something that is going to be remote and in production use, you want to use a permanent installation.

meager mirage
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The biggest issue I've run into when making the jumpers permanent is the fragility of the junction between the wire and connector (or solder joint if the connector end was clipped). The plastic coating of the wire is very inflexible and can't take a lot of bending particularly where the insulator has been cut. I completely switched to silicone wire instead.

brave tendon
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@meager mirage Yeah, I plan to buy some of those silicone wire rolls. They’re pretty cheap and fit my budget so I might as well try.

mint goblet
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And they are huggable

flat dagger
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It now has room to fit a real time clock and MPU6050, but now it's also getting bigger than I intended xP

mint goblet
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I'm in the wild

mint goblet
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i will probably get around to sewing them into their case this week

stoic slate
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just posting this here as well

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havent played with circuit python too much yet...thinking of sewing some LEDS into an overwatch hoodie of mine and getting some lucio sound files from the game to play at the push of a button..is this something that circuit python can handle?

stark lodge
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@stoic slate the sound quality is pretty low with the M0

stoic slate
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hmm guess im better off with a different micro processor that can utilize mp3 's and speaker sheilds?

stark lodge
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the m0 with an arduino would likely work better too

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(because it runs faster than circuitpython)

stoic slate
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m0 and arduino? wow im barely capable using 1 microprocessor let alone 2

stark lodge
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arduino is the software that runs on the m0

stoic slate
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ahh the IDE

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trinket or gemma m0?

stark lodge
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the chip is the same between the two. trinket has more pins but gemma is easier to sew

stoic slate
stark lodge
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you'll need an audio amp too

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did you see the lucio blaster guide?

stoic slate
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i did! its a dream but im totally intimidated by the build plus my lack of 3d-printer for parts

stark lodge
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it should cover similar electronics stuff

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how to play files over speakers and such

stoic slate
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thats great really appreciate the resource

stark lodge
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😃

hidden sierra
silk steppe
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Thats Nice..! @hidden sierra

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Did you 3d print out those...?

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I mean the Case

hidden sierra
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I did. Created in Fusion then sent through a cheep Maker Select.

silk steppe
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Whats with the bands...?

hidden sierra
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Those are pull up cords. Used to close parachute containers. Just something temp till I make a permanent strap.

flat dagger
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What type of microcontroller and screen are you using?

hidden sierra
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Feather MO with a 2.4 TFT resistive touch.

hidden sierra
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First test was a success. Thanks for the parts and knowledge base Adafruit.

mint goblet
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I would love to see the raw output from that altitude

candid cosmos
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@Wwaver-JT#6230 I do see and appreciate the bent in naming your device although that doesn't exude confidence in jump gear if you bought that off the shelf.

brave tendon
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Anyone here know anything about EL wires?

mint goblet
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So I found out that Joanns has simpliscity patterns for 99¢ today is the last day for anyone intrested in sewing a weareble from scratch

candid cosmos
light wigeon
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mint goblet
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?

light wigeon
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./

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,,,,,,+++++++++*,./

mint goblet
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whats wrong ?

flat dagger
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It's that awful language brain*****************

twilit scarab
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Wow this is more complicated than I thought

brave tendon
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Is it okay to advertise a different company? It’s not like an Adafruit competitor but more of a useful accessory.

grim cypress
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Which one?

stark lodge
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@brave tendon Its ok to link to. Just don't link excessively

knotty nova
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hello o/ What small or tiny chips would be recommended, for a tiny generative music synth ? from 8 or 16 bit.
Any options ? ty ^^

mint goblet
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the CPX has a tiny speaker

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but I am a big fan of the flora

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I want to say somone did something on this

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@knotty nova what are you looking to do?

knotty nova
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a small synth, with memorie, turned on/off by a headphone jack

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lets talk tomorrow 😃 Night o/ ^^

mint goblet
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take a look at the learn page, search music, there are a bunch on there that may help point you

knotty nova
mint goblet
knotty nova
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yeah turned to no sinqLUL xD ty ^^

mint goblet
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the spy theme could be fun , with your music

knotty nova
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spy theme ?

mint goblet
knotty nova
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ooh 🤔

mint goblet
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the learn pages are full of inspiration

knotty nova
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The spy thing has to many extraneous parts though 🤔

mint goblet
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the cpx tas alot on it cheep

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it's a learning tool

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the gemma is cheep as well, lots of people love it for small projects

knotty nova
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the cpx tas alot ?

mint goblet
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has

knotty nova
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oh xD

mint goblet
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sorry , eating

knotty nova
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haha have a good one, take your time ^^

mint goblet
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it's all good, I am also sorta the typo queen

knotty nova
mint goblet
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okay who do you sub to to get that potato?

knotty nova
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😦 now I feel bad for adverting

mint goblet
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naa, I just wanna know, it's funny

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I have a kintBucket that i use

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it's happy

knotty nova
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xD

mint goblet
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so were you looking to do a wearable beatbox?

knotty nova
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more like a music box, as compact as possible

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and maybe even capacity charged, and one time played

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box card ?

mint goblet
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to play pre programed, or off an sd or ssomething ?

knotty nova
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preprog

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midi ?

mint goblet
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so you will need enough RAM to fit your music

knotty nova
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I've see one chip solutions, but as far as I imagine there's allot of raw programming involved

mint goblet
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unless you get an Arduino , or a CP board

knotty nova
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cp ?

mint goblet
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Circuit Python

knotty nova
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arduino is just an atmel chip..

mint goblet
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and it's pins

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I use Flora's for most stuff and it's more then just the atmel chip

knotty nova
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I think your food is going to be cold sinqLUL ^^

mint goblet
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I am done eating

knotty nova
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xD

mint goblet
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but I still want to help you find something that fits

knotty nova
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Great !

mint goblet
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if you have the budget you could get a few and see what works, then keep the rest for other projects

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The two in the spy theme may be a good place to start

knotty nova
mint goblet
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so you are planing on building your own board ?

knotty nova
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not sure yet, will see (:

fluid adder
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We bought a v3 Flora last year, and finally are getting around to trying it. Unfortunately it disconnects from USB as soon as we download the sketch in Arduino 1.8 IDE

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Any ideas why this might be?

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(tried windows 10 and Mac OS 10.13)

long mango
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@fluid adder If you load a simple Blink example on it, does it blink? Not sure what you mean about it disconnecting immediately.

fluid adder
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It disconnects from the available devices when the sketch compiles, and isn’t available when the download starts. I’ll write it up and send it to the support email since that’s probably a better place

long mango
fluid adder
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Thanks!

mint goblet
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did you try the factory reset method?

rotund agate
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Trying to make something like this: https://lifehacker.com/create-your-own-ios-notifications-viewer-with-an-arduin-1634875485 (Push iOS notifications to Arduino), except using an OLED screen in somehting like this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad2DNBWgB-0 (DIY smart glass). Anyone have a video tutorial on the programming required to do this?

Lifehacker

Sick of looking at your phone just to check notifications? DIYer Luke Berndt was, so he decided to build a little notifications viewer with an Arduino.

An update on my google glass project and I will show you how to make the prism for your own google glass!

▶ Play video
brisk tangle
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Does anyone have a good link to a build that includes some version of wireless neopixels... for syncing them on different people? I was thinking of using a wifi feather that looks to io.adafruit for the trigger...?

real axle
rancid meadow
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Hello. Question about Flora Gps module. Which external can the module use in Adadruit catalog ? The docs said Active Antenna. Is that the only choice ? The passive one does not work ?🤔

mint goblet
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are you sure you need an extra ?

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@csze#8680 ^

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I am trying to find the requirement in the doc's but I am not seeing it

brave tendon
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Nike Air Mags arrive in 5 Days!

rancid meadow
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@mint goblet Not sure if I need the external Antenna but just want to keep my options open. The docs is from the product page at product/1059. .

mint goblet
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!pid1059

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!pid 1059

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crap @pastel fossil changed how it works

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!mspid 1059

mortal edge
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note the external antenna is optional, theres one built in to the module

mint goblet
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thanks @mortal edge I was doing 4 thins an once

pastel fossil
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@mint goblet ms! not !ms

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ms!pid 1059

severe coveBOT
mint goblet
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oh thats odd, but okay

pastel fossil
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😃

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I had to change it when my bot got mor popular so it doesn't mix prefixes

mint goblet
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ahh

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most servers have only one or 2

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it's sorta a pain to let server owners set it

silk steppe
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@mint goblet My Server has 6 Bots

brave tendon
mint goblet
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so I sorta have a hate of velcro, and an thinking small magnets for my bag. Thoughts from the better sewers here ?

candid cosmos
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@mint goblet not a better sewer, I do occasional gutter talk...wait, pirate... What did you need the fastener to do, mount the matrix to the bag? You could try to make a pouch for the matrix and even add snaps/grommets to that to make all of the electronics removeable...or buttons or a bunch of short shoelace ties.

mint goblet
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no just to close the flap neatly

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it sorta rides up

candid cosmos
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ah, look at what is used on various ladies handbags/purses - you might need those neodynidiumum magnets and a metal plate to be strong enough

mint goblet
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I do have some disks...

candid cosmos
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just have it stick to some steel washers sewn in to one side.

mint goblet
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that would likely work

low nebula
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Quick wearables question. What pins on the flora should connect a standard vibration sensor to?

mint goblet
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as in the I2C ?

low nebula
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The Adafruit #1776

mint goblet
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@low nebula

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thats what that pid got me

low nebula
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oops. The 1766

mint goblet
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ahh thats a fairly basic one, it basicly just compleets a circuit. Did you see tow it was connected in a Gemma project ?

low nebula
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Which pi would A1 be on the flora?

mint goblet
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you don't have to use the same pin

low nebula
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Thanks!

mint goblet
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but that more or less shows how you would use it

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if that makes sence

light wigeon
brave tendon
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Hi Wearables! My Air Mags arrived!

mint goblet
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ohhhhh

brave tendon
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Looks like this project will have to wait. The sole of the shoe has literal concrete lol. Around mid-may, I’ll take apart the entire shoe.

mint goblet
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iew

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you paid a ton dident you?

brave tendon
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$70.

mint goblet
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sill, concrete
?

brave tendon
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Structural i assume. I can’t imagine how flimsy it would be.

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In May, I’ll gut the entire shoe and rebuild it bottom up.

mint goblet
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did you see that video on them I found ?

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why wait so long ?

brave tendon
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Gonna have to take off the entire sole itself.

mint goblet
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ahh heat gun time

brave tendon
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To gut out the concrete and place in the electronics.

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And then rebuild the top of the shoe.

rancid meadow
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@light wigeon Wow that is cool. Is that to handle the over heat problem ? Which HMD is that ? Or is it totally your design ?

light wigeon
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lenovo explorer , one of the "windows mixed reality" .

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Custom IPD , im 5.7 limit was 5.9 , no physical adjustment , only software (your eyes cant match the lens resulting in a very tin "sweetspot") . Improved heat management by opening a window and add copper heatspreaders , the original design have no vents and run hot as hell after a while . Weight improvement (from 420g to 195g) i barely feel im wearing it . Fit my face with comfort (foam frame)

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somewhat a "hardware" hack

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these HMD are cheap now (200$) but full of flaws , even if the display and tracking are as good a the last vive pro upgrade .

rocky drift
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So, I'm fishing for ideas here. Anti-static for putting, say, a voice box into a plush. Would just some sort of case be plenty enough?

onyx arch
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like a cardboard thing?

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Should be

rocky drift
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A) Personal preference: I hate cardboard
B) Was thinking more along the lines of something like a 3D printed enclosure.

candid cosmos
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double insulated like a skilsaw

light wigeon
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pink antistatic bag

winter void
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Use a antistatic wrist strap connected to the board. Run the wrist strap out. Wear it when using the project

strange fjord
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I think I got lost to path of the convo

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Anti-static wrist strap for enclosure?

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Tho 3D printer seems like good idea, I don’t know how anti-static it would be, I’d say if ya want, some aluminum cans and rivets would probably work best with some nylon stand offs

rancid meadow
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@Kao#0215 That is really nice mod. We were running our demo syncro playback for 360 video with multiple HMD and have the heat problem. End up building a hack together charging station with Peltier cooling.

light wigeon
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haha 😄 nice idea

neat plaza
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Guys I have a motorcycle and I want to start adding some cool Leds mods...anyone knows some cool recommended DIY I should follow/look at?

strange fjord
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If you’re talking about on clothes, they have EL wire with tutorials on that

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On your bike, I don’t know

silk steppe
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There is a saying RGB makes everything better

candid cosmos
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You need to check your local laws regarding adding lights to a motor vehicle. They probably restrict colors. flashing and brightness so that you don't get mistaken for emergency/fire/police vehicles and don't become a distraction to others on the road. Although, there should be some info in auto forums for aftermarket product installs/mods. Note that autos are usually 12v systems whereas arduino is 5v/3v and have to account for that.

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but for wearables, there are direction signal backpacks, gloves, jackets, not too many mods on helmets because you don't want to compromise any built-in safety, GPS jackets, haptic feedback, rider communication systems...

twin rock
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can I turn off the built in dotstar with circuitpython?

mortal edge
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@twin rock should be able to. which board?

twin rock
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Gemma M0, a neopixal project. I can't load both neopixal and dotstar lib without memory error.

mortal edge
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are you using the .mpy version of the libraries? i got this to work:

Adafruit CircuitPython 2.2.4 on 2018-03-07; Adafruit Gemma M0 with samd21e18
>>> import board
>>> import neopixel
>>> import adafruit_dotstar
>>> ds = adafruit_dotstar.DotStar(board.APA102_SCK, board.APA102_MOSI, 1)
>>> ds.fill(0)
>>> 
twin rock
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Thanks to all, I found the dotstart mpy file, set color to (0,0,0) and brightness to 0.1 and it is now off.

mortal edge
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@stark lodge is your approach better? so it doesn't interfere with CP using it for status?

stark lodge
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It is meant to interfere @mortal edge

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Its a lot less to import though

neat plaza
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@Techguy12 🔥#6066 @strange fjord @caitlinsdad#8800 thanks guys for the tips..I want my motorcycle and I to be as bright and visible on the road as I can be.. Caitlinsdad.. Thank you..yea, a regulator will take care of that 12v for MCU. Those gloves/jackets integrated LEDs mods, if you buy them wear ready. They are usually expensive. That's why I want to make them..

silk steppe
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@neat plaza LOL I didn't help you

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😂

grim cypress
candid cosmos
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@grim cypress There seems to be a recent surge in questions on the UBLOX GPS modules. Is there some school or curriculum that is promoting its use for projects? From what I have seen, it might take some sleuthing to get things sorted out to connect it to an arduino, maybe a little more difficult if for microbit. I don't know if it is similar to anything adafruit has to even start, maybe look in the adafruit forums or post in #help-with-radio. Good luck.

grim cypress
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It is pretty recent technology, especially for its small size. @candid cosmos

candid cosmos
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@grim cypress thanks. everyone seems to keep busy with new products

grim cypress
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Yep, if you get a chance, you should get one of those modules. Its pretty good for navigation and tracking.

candid cosmos
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I've done orienteering, never got into geocaching though.

grim cypress
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Ahh, pretty interesting.

brave tendon
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I plan on selling my WIP project, just had too little time and too little money. It’s a WIP Air Mag kit, has the EL lights, 9V or 3V powered, and the shoes. The shoes however requires work such as gutting the sole to place the electronics and restructuring the fabric to appear more realistic. Was planning on putting an Adafruit circuit to make it rechargeable and auto-lacing but ended up being too costly and time-inducing for me. Message me if you’re interested in finishing my project.

upbeat wing
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If anyone comes in here asking about this, make sure to @ me

blazing void
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Hey, im doing a student project and our task is to build a super compact Bluetooth bracelet with a few neopixels. We’ll be designing our own pcbs so looking for what ic’s would work best. There’s some NRF ones that have built in Bluetooth. Can we use one of these for communication plus neopixel control or do we need a separate processor to run the animations?

stark storm
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It should work just fine with a spare I/O pin. I see that the Adafruit Neopixel library explicitly lists support for "Nordic nRF52 (Adafruit Feather nRF52), nRF51 (micro:bit)" (with the usual caveats).

blazing void
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Awesoem, thanks!

brave tendon
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I’m selling WIP Nike Air Mags, msg me if you’re interested. Needs quite a bit of work and love which I don’t have time for atm.

tender frigate
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This product shows as discontinued

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Can you guys suggest any alternatives

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Or the parts I could use to build it

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Thank you

brave tendon
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I don’t recommend building anything like these. You’ll regret having to upload what you’re trying to watch to the device itself without having it distorted or stretched. @tender frigate

mint goblet
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there is the google cardbard ?

amber widget
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@mint goblet I know it's a typo, and I'm not poking fun, but now all I can think of is a bard made out of cardboard that sings your Google search results.

mint goblet
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oh crap, I had no red line and missed that

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sorry

amber widget
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no don't be! It's an incredibly entertaining image. I needed the laugh 😃

mint goblet
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well that's something

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thinking of wearables, I need advice on that bag of mine, it's still sagging

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I need a better camera

amber widget
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I'm guessing, as I don't entirely know what you mean by "sagging", but have you considered adding boning? There's plastic "boning" available that's used in corsets (albeit awful for corsets), but it could add some rigidity to the structure if that's what you're looking for.

mint goblet
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it has that.. sorta I used webbing on the backside

amber widget
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I remember seeing it, if that's what you showed on show and tell not that long ago

mint goblet
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nte led matrix is what lives in it

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yeah

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I can attach and take another photo if you like

amber widget
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Sure, I'll see if I have any suggestions

mint goblet
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it's not as bad when the bag is on my shoulder, but I have not found a good way to attach an attachemnt to the top due the the flap

amber widget
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Ok so the bit with the matrix in it isn't the issue? It's the entire thing?

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Is the bag leather?

mint goblet
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yeah

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canvas with a leather flap

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the other bag is all canvas

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but thats a backpack and I attach on the diag\anial with that

amber widget
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Ok, so I think part of the issue is that it has flaps on the end of the matrix bit, so it hangs instead of the clips being right next to the matrix

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have you thought about adding grommets to the bag in specific places to have better mounting points?

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That would work on canvas or leather

mint goblet
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i did, then I sav the price of a grommet punch

amber widget
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oh hmm

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I've done it with the little kits that require a hammer

mint goblet
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and I added it to the maker space wish list....

amber widget
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you have to cut the hole first with those

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but they're cheap

mint goblet
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I am fine with taht

amber widget
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Relative to the punch I mean

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I don't know what your budget is, so I Shouldn't say "cheap"

mint goblet
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but they were $30+

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and I am poor

amber widget
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I think my kit was 6$ for 10 grommets and the punch bit that requires you to hammer it together

mint goblet
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I do have the hammer 😉

amber widget
mint goblet
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I thought the 4 point straps would be a good stand is

amber widget
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Oh it's on sale for 6

mint goblet
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in

amber widget
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I think maybe they're too long.

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Is the issue

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If they were shorter would they hold more up against the bag and sag less?

mint goblet
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yeah I shoud have gotten the adjustment things

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but I gould not find them

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thats my own fault

amber widget
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Can you stitch them shorter? I have no idea what they're made of

mint goblet
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webbing

amber widget
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Ah, that's more specialised.

mint goblet
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I would have to cut them out and rip the seems

amber widget
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It's doable, but requires a specific needle for a sewing machine, if that's how you do it. Heavier duty needle.

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Depending on the webbing.

mint goblet
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It's sewen in good... I did not want it to come out....

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ooopsi

amber widget
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I totally get it.... I've had to rip out some hardcore stitching before because I didn't want it to come out either.

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You could add loops to the top of the bit with the matrix in it, and then hook those loops over the carabiners as well to hold it closer, and then the webbing would simply sit there for now...

mint goblet
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the attach to the D rings that the strap is on, I am not sure if there is a better place?

amber widget
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Basically make two new loops but only for the top.

mint goblet
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the loop thing I did consider

amber widget
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Well if I couldn't do any of the other stuff we talked about, that's where I'd go with it

mint goblet
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I have 2 links on each loop for that

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thank you for being a sounding bard

amber widget
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Seems like if you could attach the top corners of the matrix part of it where the D-rings are now, I don't think it would sag so much and the bottom connections could be left the same just to hold it down a little.

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Yeah for sure 😃

mint goblet
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?

amber widget
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I was summing up what we already said, that wasn't anything new

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I may have worded it badly

mint goblet
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I ushaly use the loops on the bottom to the straps that close the flap and the top ones to the shoulder strap

amber widget
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Right, but the matrix seems wide enough that if you put loops closer to the top corners of it, you could still attach them to the shoulder straps, and it would hold the matrix flat against the bag

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Essentially it's a workaround to shortening the straps.

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Add another mounting point instead of altering the current one.

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But what I was saying, was that the bottom ones can be left as-is, I don't think they'd need to be changed.

mint goblet
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heem, not a bad idea

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as I want to use this on multiple bags

amber widget
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Yah that would make it more modular too 😃

fickle sapphire
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@mint goblet I've been drooling over Adam Savage's EDC One bag. It has a soft bottom lined with velcro such that you can put in a camera-bag or something stiff with velcro

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possibly you can do this to the side of your bag? velcro-in the matrix

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also...pen-holder-loops in the bag are a really good idea

mint goblet
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I will look

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and holy crap that's not cheep

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@fickle sapphire do you know what kind of clip that is for the shoulder strap?

fickle sapphire
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It's made out of old sails and hand-made in california. still a very high price, but there are reasons I presume.

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@mint goblet Not sure what the name of it is, but they look like modified carabiners (for climbing) but with a flat-portion

mint goblet
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sorta like scissors ,

fickle sapphire
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KINDA

candid cosmos
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look for "flat snap hooks", like the ones used on tow strap webbing.

mint goblet
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I was on the hunt for flat clips ages ago for another project idea, I think I have a thing for them

honest berry
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On the 13th I went to an event and they had some crowdsync light-up LED wristbands. I wanted to make a radio control center but due to proprietary tech, I decided to make a similar thing instead.

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But I'm new to this and I need help with the circuitry.

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Not to mention I don't want to infringe on their tech.

keen pilot
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@honest berry sounds cool, what was the visual effect like

honest berry
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It had 15 different colors, and multiple blink patterns

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The control box was radio frequency based

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But I want to make more than just 15 colors

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Search crowdsync technology

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To find the company

keen pilot
keen pilot
honest berry
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@keen pilot it should.

candid cosmos
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@honest berry Look through the Bluetooth Controlled Neopixel Headphones guide. I think you will find that more advanced radio/wifi systems for communicating commands will be more complex and expensive. The master unit you saw may have been RF to some remote master console module but the IR beam for the individual wristbands is more practical for simplified electronics receiving and the "give-away" wristband unit. https://learn.adafruit.com/bluetooth-controlled-neopixel-headphones/overview

Animate your headphones with NeoPixels!

honest berry
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Well I'm not giving them away they'll stay within the house, and also I've always wanted to build some form of radio frequency device

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And this is a perfect

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Opportunity

potent valley
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will coating conductive thread strands with fabric paint individually be sufficient insulation to braid them together? will the braid be able to flex and stuff without the coating cracking?

candid cosmos
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@potent valley You are probably better off using the flexible silicone coated insulated wire available at Adafruit. The problem with conductive thread when you try to coat them - like with nail polish at connections - the liquid may seep into the fibers to actually insulate the fibers/contact pad and break the connection. Fabric paint is a little thicker but like painting surfaces that move, the paint will eventually work its way loose and crack. If you've already made your project with conductive thread, you could splice in at the flex joints a braided real wire "jumper" set for durability and reliability. The auto parts store will have some silicone insulated hookup wire if you need to get your hands on some quicker than ordering. Good luck.

potent valley
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Ah ok, thanks @candid cosmos . I'm trying to find thin, very flexible wire (that needs to be insulated) and haven't been having much luck lol. If you know any good wire for that let me know

stark storm
light wigeon
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Hi There, thanks for the great work and sorry for my bad english.

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Im starting with the GEMMA V2 project and im trying the simple project with a neopixel ring. im trying the project as the starter (https://learn.adafruit.com/gemma-hoop-earrings/arduino-code) but i have difficulty uploading the code... Is this project compatible with the GEMMA V2 and if not is it possible to modify the code in order to make it work... Sorry for such a noob questions but you are my last hope :p THanks

candid cosmos
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The Gemma may be fussy at times when you are trying to upload from the Arduino IDE. Check out the guide for tips https://learn.adafruit.com/introducing-gemma/introduction but the trick usually is to hit the reset button on the board at the right time so that the bootloader can communicate with the PC as it uploads the sketch. Also check in the IDE settings that adafruit Gemma is selected as the board and USBtinyISP is the programmer selected. Good luck.

Introducing Adafruit's mini wearable microcontroller

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@light wigeon

light wigeon
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hey

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i did check the settings indeed

candid cosmos
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are you using a mac or windows 10?

light wigeon
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mac :p

candid cosmos
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for mac, the USB stuff is more sensitive, so you may need to try other USB cables or even get a USB 2.0 hub to pass thru.

light wigeon
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ahaa

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i have a USB3 hub, do you think it might wotk better

candid cosmos
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the gemma/trinket are based on the attiny85 chip which is an earlier chip and "hacked" to work with arduino. It works with USB2.0 so newer USB3.0 doesn't play nice.

light wigeon
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😃

candid cosmos
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on a mac, you wont see it show up as a port

light wigeon
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i just changed the usb port (from left to right) and now the board is bliking

candid cosmos
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that's a positive sign

light wigeon
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the test run well

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error compiling for arduino gemma

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that is more challenging than expected 😃

candid cosmos
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Did you install the adafruit boards library in the IDE?

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also the neopixel library?

light wigeon
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🙄

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nope!... and now i feel silly

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😬

candid cosmos
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don't When you look in code and see anything like include.something.h , you usually have to install the device library

light wigeon
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actully it did ring a bell like... 2 sec... and then i thought it was normal

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so i whould install the librarie from github

candid cosmos
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in the ide, top menu look to install library, just put neopixel in the search there to select

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in ide look at top buttons SKETCH, INCLUDE, MANAGE LIBRARIES

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pick Adafruit Neopixel

light wigeon
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allright

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i got the neopixel ine

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one

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should i get some boards as well?

candid cosmos
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I think you need the adafruit boards one when you read through the setup guide. You have to select Adafruit Gemma which is "slightly" different from the Arduino Gemma that shows up when you first install the ide

light wigeon
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true! i havent noticed

candid cosmos
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I need to leave, but the only other problem you may encounter is that your neopixel ring may be RGBW, you would need to just change the configuration parameters in the code, read how in the "adafruit Neopixel uberguide". Good luck.

light wigeon
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it worked

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almost 100% :p i have 4 leds not working in the random program

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but i will check later i guess!

light wigeon
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I'm new here. Anyone that can help with a wearable sensor to detect dehydration, I would really like to discuss it with you. I even have a scientific paper that explains how the sensors were made. I think this can be made using a wearable. I can't think of a better use for such a device. Any help, feel free to contact me. Thanks.

gentle beacon
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Anyone know of a way to disable the USB storage trigger on a Circuit Python Express? I want to use it as a keyboard on my iphone, but my phone keeps wanting to import images everytime I plug it in. If I kill the import, the HID keyboard works as desired. Just that one detail needs to be rectified 😃 thanks!

stark storm
gentle beacon
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@stark storm cool, I had a little Arduino HID device and it worked EXACTLY one time on my iphone as a HID, then the iphone self defended and blocked the device!

stark storm
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Ouch! I have a phone that lets me choose "charge only" mode to protect against being plugged into sketchy chargers, but apparently it does not switch instantly.

gentle beacon
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@stark storm i may have to abandon the iphone HID idea and just go Android for this project..

stark storm
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That's annoying.

gentle beacon
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Very...

stark lodge
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@gentle beacon do you mean the auto-reload?

gentle beacon
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@stark lodge I mean the USB storage is detected as a storage device. When I plug it into my iphone it wants to import pics vs act as a keyboard 😦

stark lodge
gentle beacon
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@stark lodge ah ok thank you

light wigeon
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hi everybody

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my probleme is only 12 on 16 leds are working... did you know what possibilby can go wrong? The board? the library?

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thanks for your precious advices 😃

stark storm
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I can think of 4 things: one is that the code is configured for 12 LEDs (an easy thing to check). Another is that there might be a power problem: what power supply are you using? Another is that there's a bad connection between LED 12 and 13 – that's trickier to check, but gently pressing on those two (the last working one and the first non-working one) might shift things enough to make a temporary connection. The last is that one of the LEDs may have failed. If you think that's a possibility, try contacting AdaFruit support.

light wigeon
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hey thanks for quick answer...well i copy past the code from the link i posted

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i have 2 neopixel rings and it is the same probleme on both of theme so i think its not the material

stark storm
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The code in that link is for 16 LEDs, so that's probably not your problem. Same on both? That's really peculiar.

light wigeon
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for the batery i have a 3,7V 500mAh PKCELL

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actually i went last week to the reseller because i thought the product was broken... now i see that its me that i did mistake

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on ARDUINO i choose the ADAFRUIT GEMMA ATtiny85 board

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maybe that is the problem

stark storm
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Is that the Gemma you're using?

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I know the code can be a tight fit on the ATtiny85, but it should work unless some Arduino update broke it somehow.

light wigeon
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i guess: GEMMA AT Tiny85 3GPIO

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humm... that is quite confusing for a start 😄

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shall i start an other project and see if the probleme is still here

stark storm
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It sure is. Having two fail in the same way is deeply strange. If it happened to me, I'd try another NeoPixel device and/or another controller and see if the problem changes.

light wigeon
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well i have only this GEMMA V2 for the moment

amber widget
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@light wigeon Did you buy the RGBW NeoPixel rings? Instead of RGB?

light wigeon
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yes it is the RGBW NAtural Led

stark storm
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Oooh, good catch! I forgot those were out there.

amber widget
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The code is different for RGBW than RGB because of the extra bit needed to talk to the fourth LED in each pixel.

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So since you're sending 3/4 of the number of bits you need, 3/4 of the LEDs work.

light wigeon
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🤔

amber widget
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For CircuitPython, you can add the fourth bit easily by changing the color tuple to (r, g, b, w), i.e. (255, 255, 255, 0). I don't know how to alter the code you're using though.

light wigeon
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well actually i wanted this first project to work and see all parameters one by one because at the moment i dont catch all the code language 😃

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i even dont know yet how to change the color or frequency

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for the moment i hace for exemple :

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case 0: // Random sparkles - just one LED on at a time!
i = random(NUM_LEDS); // Choose a random pixel
pixels.setPixelColor(i, color); // Set it to current color
pixels.show(); // Refresh LED states
// Set same pixel to "off" color now but DON'T refresh...
// it stays on for now...both this and the next random
// pixel will be refreshed on the next pass.
pixels.setPixelColor(i, 0);
delay(10); // 10 millisecond delay

amber widget
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I don't know Arduino, so I can't tell you how to alter the code to work with your rings, but from what I can tell the project is designed to work with RGB rings. So something would need to change.

light wigeon
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ok

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i understand

amber widget
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You can format codeblocksby putting three backticks on either side of your code. The backtick is the one in the upper left of US keyboards, next to the 1 key.

light wigeon
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i have french keyboard, but im going to look for it

amber widget
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That's why I specified US keyboard... I know it's in different places for other languages 😃

light wigeon
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its like that right

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" ` "

amber widget
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Not quite

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Wait yes.

light wigeon
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😃

amber widget
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That's the correct key. Three of them followed by all of your code, and then three more.

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I thought you were asking if you'd formatted it correctly 😄 sorry

stark storm
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It looks like the Arduino NeoPixel library has an optional third argument to specify the NeoPixel type.

amber widget
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@stark storm CircuitPython has options like that so I guessed Arduino would too.

stark storm
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So instead of:

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Adafruit_NeoPixel pixels = Adafruit_NeoPixel(NUM_LEDS, PIN);

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It would be something like:

amber widget
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@light wigeon Also a single backtick followed by some code and another single backtick does inline code.

stark storm
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Adafruit_NeoPixel pixels = Adafruit_NeoPixel(NUM_LEDS, PIN, NEO_WGRB + NEO_KHZ800);

light wigeon
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im a little confused but im happy we found the solution

stark storm
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I don't know the pixel order of your RGBW natural Led ring, so the colors might come out wrong, but they should at least light.

light wigeon
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if we take the exemple i send you, where should i place the code?

stark storm
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Replace the first line I mentioned (after "instead of") with the second line I mentioned.

light wigeon
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ok

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im uploading the code

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... almost it! 😄

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now only one is not lighting

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ha my mistake... its on now!

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wow

stark storm
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Go team!

light wigeon
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i dont know how i would do without you...

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is there some books or notices that i could read about to help me?

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or it is like a try and die 😃

stark storm
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I know there's a wealth of good information out there, but I don't have any good suggestions, unfortunately.

light wigeon
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ok so i guess i will be like a spam in this topic :p

candid cosmos
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@light wigeon When working with neopixels, refer to this for a good overview https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-neopixel-uberguide/the-magic-of-neopixels Browsing through any other project in the Adafruit Learn section of their site is always good to pick up techniques and pointers. This 3 part guide is good to understand how to get around some of the limitations of using arduino with neopixels. https://learn.adafruit.com/multi-tasking-the-arduino-part-1/overview Good luck.

Everything you always wanted to know about Adafruit NeoPixels but were afraid to ask

Make your Arduino walk and chew gum at the same time.

stark storm
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Multitasking in microcontrollers is an interesting exercise. I have one implementation of a 24-channel phase control dimmer in a Teensy 2, and I'm working on another one to draw text on a CRT by decoding the old Hershey vector font, transforming the coördinates, queueing them into a buffer, and then clocking them out the DAC pins at a regular rate. It's kind of hairy code, but it seems to be working.

light wigeon
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@candid cosmos thanks. i actually start by the project on the LEARN section. as im started im not aware yet what is up to date and what need some extensions... but if i need something i might ask you... verry soon :p

stark storm
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When multitasking, I like to factor out repeated stuff like the call to millis() and subtraction. So at the beginning of loop(), I'll have something like unsigned long curtime = millis(); and unsigned long schedtime; for each thing I want to schedule.

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Then a simple test for curtime > schedtime will detect when it's time to run something, and in that block, I'll use schedtime = curtime + interval; to reset the time for the next time around.

light wigeon
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😄

candid cosmos
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When you get into programming neopixels, it helps to get into the mindset/paradigm of what a stop motion animator does. You have to structure your sketch like it is working frame by frame. Because the Arduino is essentially a simple one-tasker and takes some time to execute a command, if you are making the lights go through a rainbow fade it may never get around to sensing your switch to change the animation or move the servo. You use the big loop to go frame by frame - maybe calculate a color change, set the pixel color, sense switch, move servo a tiny bit and move on to next step, all hoping that you can squeeze in all that to make the animation look nice and not awkward.

stark storm
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Yup, that's how my Hershey font code works. Each loop, it checks to see if it's time to emit a sample via the DACs, then it checks to see if it's in the middle of drawing a segment, if so, it calculates the next position, if not, it looks for the next segment, or the next character.

candid cosmos
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All that ties in well with the "state machine" concept...and switch debouncing. Some basic concepts that are never taught to beginner programmers...like flowcharting to better understand what you are doing or attempting to do.

stark storm
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Worse, a recent fad is to deprecate state machines in general.

candid cosmos
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in real life, rage against the machine.

mystic acorn
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do not go gentle into that robot apocalypse.
rage, rage against the rise of the machine

candid cosmos
stark storm
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Good advice, that.

jaunty crypt
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My droid friends are the IG-88's

light wigeon
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Hi everyone, I would like to create some workshops with wearables to teach those who don't usually use technology in this way how easy it can be to get going. I have a gemma v2 from the sequin starterpack but to be honest, uploading from my macbook to this board is touch and go and not something I feel would give beginners confidence - which board would be the best to start with? I am looking for 1. small board 2. easy to program (makecode looks good for this I guess, but easy upload?) 3. cheap 4. low power requirement. what do you think?

stark storm
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I'd suggest a Gemma M0. The genuine USB support makes the loading process much smoother, it's more powerful, and isn't expensive. I've never used MakeCode, but it's easy enough to program with Mu (which handles the upload for you). I taught a class of kids using Mu, and they got the hang of it pretty quickly.

candid cosmos
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Hi @light wigeon, welcome. For beginners to coding, electronics, and wearables, my recommendation would be the Adafruit Circuit Playground Express board.(CPX). It may be a bit more expensive but worth it in terms of ease of use, has sensors embedded in it that you would want later on and the learning "ecosystem" that exists for it. In actuality, small tiny boards and conductive thread are really for more advanced users who know how quirky they can be and can use them without getting frustrated. The added cost is more of an investment that pays back in a better starter experience. Most of the time I just run the electronics off of a battery pack with standard AA or AAA batteries . For wearables, using the CPX means users can jump right in and create that LED blinking garment which responds to sound, light, touch, or temperature without needing to buy and solder on additional components. Browse through the Learn section on the Adafruit site to get an idea of the vast wearable projects you can do as well as all the starter tutorials. Maybe you can get some sponsorship for your workshop, there are educator packs that are sold by Adafruit. Good luck.

light wigeon
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Thanks so much @stark storm and @candid cosmos I will try mu, and have ordered a CPX to see if I can make a good experience with it. Will definitely have a look at the educator packs too.

heavy yoke
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Just got and adafruit Flora v3 as a gift and I was wondering if anyone had a few tips and tricks as I have never worked with this before.

candid cosmos
heavy yoke
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Thank you @candid cosmos

light wigeon
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Hi Gang!

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Is there a page or some tutorial where i can find a way to learn how to code the LED for NEOPIXEL RGBW with a GEMMA v2?

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Im trying many thing and i still have the demo code working... i really would like to know how to control each parameter and do my own animation.

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thanks

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and to continue, can someon explain me how to fix this kind of problem: whiteOverRainbow' was not declared in this scope! i get a lot of those lately

candid cosmos
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@light wigeon In arduino, coding for RGBW neopixels is the same for RGB neopixels except there is an extra parameter in the color statement (R,G,B,W) and the specification in the setup line.

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the error message you get probably points to a whiteOverRainbow function not properly coded or if that variable is not defined for the loop it is used in.

light wigeon
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@candid cosmos ho ok , i'm learnin a lot and i think this is the next chapter! i will have a look

ancient flame
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Just a quick check, there's a way to wire up people as capacitive touch sensors, right?

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The problem I'm trying to solve is having people high-fiving or bumping butts or otherwise bouncing off each other while dancing act as a trigger signal.

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Or would accelerometers be a better idea?

stark storm
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My guess is that it's theoretically possible, but would require some tweaking of thresholds, as different people have different capacitances. Further, if they're bumping each other with clothed parts of their bodies, it may not be workable.

ancient flame
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So maybe glove and shoe accelerometers.

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Impacts should read different than waving around.

stark storm
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It seems to me that's likely to work better. Possibly try a vibration sensor instead of an accelerometer (there are versions of this that are more and less sensitive, too): https://www.adafruit.com/product/2384

candid cosmos
ancient flame
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@candid cosmos That's probably exactly what I want! I'll watch the video when I have bandwidth - both mental and internet.

short verge
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can anybody recommend a good quantified self channel on DC?

jolly flax
quasi perch
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Ooo

keen edge
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So THAT’S what they’ll be putting in Adabox 9!

queen inlet
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i have a stupid question, i can connect strands of neopixels together via jst connectors to power them all via 1 5v trinket pro/power source with a powerboost correct, provided theres not too much distance and im not using a crazy amount of neopixels,?

candid cosmos
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@queen inlet I don't use powerboost modules so I don't know if your setup will last long or the neopixel load at full brightness will tax the powerboost but basic wiring is ok with jst connectors if you want to put in a break. They will be more resistant to pulling apart than other connectors available and used in wearables. Just note that if you have factory installed wires and jst connector already on the neopixel strip, they may be wired up to the input or output end of the strip and you will have to connect to the correct end for things to work. Good luck.

livid bluff
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Question about the Gemma M0 - with a LiPo battery plugged in, does the battery get charged from the Gemma when powered through the micro-USB? If not, how are other folks re-charging their LiPo battery for a project?

stark storm
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Hello Adafruit Discord community! I am working on the mad scientist goggles project as sold on the Adafruit website. I am trying to recreate a similar look to the DJ Rezz. In addition to the kit, I ordered an addition a pair of 24 x RGBW in order to create two circles of light over each eye, one 16 and one 24. A few starting questions:
I'm totally new at this so I am not sure how to wire the 24 neopixel rings to the smaller 16 ones.

Can I use the trinket that came with it to program all four neopixel rings? I also ordered a Gemma v2 to have for other projects so would this be better suited to handle this instead?

Similarly will the 3.7v battery be enough to power them?

candid cosmos
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@lime kite To get familiar with neopixels, look at the following guides https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-neopixel-uberguide/the-magic-of-neopixels , https://learn.adafruit.com/sipping-power-with-neopixels?view=all and the guide for your goggles https://learn.adafruit.com/kaleidoscope-eyes-neopixel-led-goggles-trinket-gemma A Trinket and a Gemma V2 are essentially the same under the hood. So here are a few things: The googles kit may come with RGB neopixels and not RGBW and when the different kinds are both connected together may produce some unexpected colors, flashes, no lights. What you can try is to connect each kind to a different pin and code accordingly - chaining the rings together data out to data in to act as one long strip would not be good with the different kinds. The Trinket/Gemma should be able to drive such a relatively small amount of neopixels - under 100. Set the brightness to low to start out with to see how the battery can handle the load - usually when neopixels all turn red or dim, they are underpowered and when your animation freezes up.... When you get all your parts, come back and we can guide you along.

Everything you always wanted to know about Adafruit NeoPixels but were afraid to ask

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smoky plume
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Hey! I am making a Halloween costume! It is a motorcycle transformer!

candid cosmos
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@smoky plume Is it a big kid or little kid size? Using good duct tape as a covering material will add up in cost and gum up those scissors.

smoky plume
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Big kid

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Well, we bought two 32 meter rolls of tape @candid cosmos

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So should be enough

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Plus, if it rains on halloween, it acts as permanent paint

candid cosmos
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Be sure to tape on a bunch of flashlights or bicycle blinker lights for effect...and fog machine...

smoky plume
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Uhm

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My parents are using their money for this ._.

candid cosmos
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It's a chance to show off your mad maker skillz. Good luck.

smoky plume
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Thank you! ^

sand willow
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I'm planning to make twinkling Halloween dresses for my girls and the idea of exposed conductive thread between the pixels has me nervous. In fact I'm convinced i'm going to either ruin some components or have a battery fire the first time they sit down... Has anyone had luck sewing enameled wire? I want to put 20-30 pixels on each dress and want the fabric to flow as naturally as possible all things considered.

candid cosmos
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@sand willow You are better off using silicone insulated wire https://www.adafruit.com/product/3164 Enameled wire is kinda stiff and brittlely when flexed too much. You may need to learn to solder but that guarantees less of a headache when trying to connect and troubleshoot the entire setup. Btw, you could probably wind a lower bobbin with enamel wire on a sewing machine and topstitch it with regular thread. You wouldn't pass that through the needle if you wanted to experiment. Good luck.

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@sand willow Id trust your intuition and second the suggestion from @candid cosmos to use wire. I’ve used it for a maximum 25 pixels and seen significant drops and inconsistencies in performance to the point where I’ve changed direction on using it to keep a piece alive. The thread is fantastic and exciting for small projects but I am in love with that silicone wire. The thread can also be a pain to sew, to be honest. The 30awg is super tiny and amazing and you might be able to weave it through mesh fabric like thread.

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@candid cosmos i dont think I’ve used enameled wire, tbh, unless I’m totally blanking on it. If there’s an issue of being brittle, it would probably also work well to keep it out of the machine and sew a zigzag stick over it to make a channel - i think Becky did this with the chameleon scarf.

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Zigzag stitch*, doh!

sand willow
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Thanks everyone, I went out and bought a 6 pack of the 30ga silicon wire. Now to figure out the animation logic! My girls are going to freak when they see them!

radiant bay
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Awesome @sand willow! Can’t wait to see!

candid cosmos
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@radiant bay magnet wire - enameled wire - getting brittle might not be the best term to describe it, it's extremely thin - from motor windings, wirewrapping to transformer thickness and is useful in some applications like those eyelash LEDs and covering with makeup. Use whatever you can get your hands on and make it work!

upbeat wing
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not so much for typing as remote controlling a raspberry pi

candid cosmos
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@devout crypt small oled display on the other arm?

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sorry, for @upbeat wing

upbeat wing
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Lol it's ok

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I may be able to but I think it would be a little bulky, I plan on bringing back PiGlass and recoding the commands to work with Bluetooth

candid cosmos
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you need to hack an old blackberry device for an all in one on your arm

upbeat wing
candid cosmos
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I think James Bond had some kind of joystick on a watch maybe.

upbeat wing
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I got a Bluetooth joystick but I don't think I will be able to use it, on the keyboard you can set repeat frequency and I was able to tone it down but the mouse commands just happen so fast if I push forward for 1 second it recieves commands for 4

candid cosmos
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hmmm, maybe @icy hollow might have some thoughts on joystick input.

smoky plume
smoky plume
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Any feedback?

smoky plume
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Ahem

smoky plume
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<@&327289013561982976> am I able to post a stream here, related to my project?

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As in, my own, where I am working on it

mortal edge
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@smoky plume do you mean post a link to your stream?

smoky plume
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Yeah

mortal edge
smoky plume
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I believe it does

mortal edge
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Then sure. The other thing is to try not to spam with the link - like post it here everyday or something.

smoky plume
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Ok!

smoky plume
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K uh

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Streaming to yt not twitch

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Can I re send the link ? @mortal edge

mortal edge
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huh. where'd it go? did you delete it? i saw it

smoky plume
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That was for twitch

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Twitch wasnt cooperating , so i moved to yt

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Can i resend the link? @mortal edge

mortal edge
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sure. go ahead.

opal dagger
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@sand willow As @candid cosmos mentioned, silicone insulated wire is very nice. I love it for wearables. It's very flowy. I'd stitch it every few inches with regular thread, possibly to the back of the fabric, being careful not to poke through the insulation. In addition to the single conductor recommended, there is now multi-conductor silicone ribbon! A good candidate is this: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3892

cedar mantle
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Trucking through the Badge tutorial. Up next, print out the remixed case that will accommodate the battery for the HalloWing off of Thingiverse.

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I'm hoping to be able to have this together + the speaker for fancy nametag at the Halloween party at our local MakerLab.

opal dagger
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Nice!

cedar mantle
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@opal dagger I love this scene

upbeat wing
cedar mantle
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@upbeat wing add a tiny wireless camera and you're almost there

opal dagger
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Oh, 1997, you were so cute. Did you imagine people would actually be doing basically all of this with their smartphones?

cedar mantle
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@opal dagger best day evar... wireless camera on a rc car with a vr headset for the phone + a chicken coop

opal dagger
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Oh yeah! That sounds great! I love my DJI Spark and Mavic Air drones. I get similar exhilaration, but I haven't tried a VR headset on those, yet.

cedar mantle
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Fun thing about staying on the ground with the chickens though, it was like Jurassic Park!

opal dagger
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Ohhhh. That's amazing. Yeah, scale and all. Plus, the character AI and rendering is so realistic 😉

candid cosmos
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My idea book on wearables to get inspiration for your holiday makes...I didn't realize I made all that... https://www.instructables.com/id/Getting-Started-in-Wearables/

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Getting Started in Wearables: If it fits, it’s lit...If it doesn’t fit, we’ll make it fit…Squirrels.Just put that in because, anything you can wear is a wearable. But mostly here, we will talk about wearable electronics or really, how to get started in thinking about ...

lilac axle
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Are there any wearable platforms with wireless capabilities like Bluetooth or WiFi?

candid cosmos
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@lilac axle I'll say anything is wearable - making it wearable is just a means of mounting the hardware... But bluetooth, wifi, radio, and cellular modules can be added on to arduino boards like FLORA or an UNO R3. If you are concerned about size, they are all pretty small but you have some that are built into the board like the ESP8266 or the Adafruit Feathers and the add-on wings. Depending on the project, you will find that you might need a controller app on a smartphone or some kind of connection to a "cloud" service like for IoT(Internet of Things). Good luck.

cinder sluice
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Adafruit flora is made to be wearable and you can buy a bluefruit LE attachment for it

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I recommend looking into embedding solutions for the feather ecosystem tho cause then you can use Adafruit IO over WiFi, radio boards, etc

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A feather huzzah for instance could be a good move

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If you’re already a little experienced with wireless and don’t mind a brand with not as many project walkthroughs available I’d highly suggest looking into tinyduino stackable boards

lilac axle
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I am trying to embed the board inside a hat, so something too big would look bad and feel extremely uncomfortable

cinder sluice
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What sort of hat? Any of the boards I mentioned could be fine depending on the shape and placement

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What other features does the board need to have? Sensors? Motors? LEDs?

near stag
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My 7 year old son will be Santa for his school play. What sorta of cool ideas can I do for his costume?

hasty sparrow
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Make his hat move.

candid cosmos
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@near stag if he can have s hand puppet or stuffed toy of Rudolph we can certainly light up his nose. Other than that, lighting up the fur trim on the costume or props like a small tree would be in order.

livid basin
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I have some basic BLE questions. I'd like to get started on a project that uses BLE, but I have very limited needs. I really only want something that can detect IF a BLE connection is made (GAP?), and I don't want to send any data, but just have an ACK of the connection (1 I/O pin?). I'm using the CPX now, so not sure if Adafruit Bluefruit LE UART Friend would be the way to go (if I could use it with the CPX), or if something like the Adafruit Feather 32u4 Bluefruit LE is the way to go. I really like having the speaker on the CPX to use, and the LED's aren't bad. Or is there some other kind of "beacon" I can use to detect my phone? I've read the new "How to Choose a uC" that was just put out, and I know it states "If you want wireless communication between microcontrollers, you almost certainly do not want BLE.", but that's not what I want to do. I only want to use BLE to detect the presence of paired connection. Comments? Thanks in advance.

livid basin
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Basically, we have a limited number and variety of sensors to use with our uC's, and I would like to use BLE as a sensor.

tired marsh
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From what I know about bluetooth (which is pretty limited), BLE devices transmit a 0-64 character "name" when asked, but otherwise don't broadcast their existence. What is the goal of using BLE as a sensor?

grim night
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@livid basin you may want to look at the new CircuitPython Library https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_BluefruitSPI that should supports a BluefruitSPI Friend.. I have been playing with one attached to am ItsyBitsy M0 Espress. It should work with a CPX as well as long as the SPI pins are available. I assume you can do the same type of thing via Arduino with the BluefruitSPI friend or UART Friend but I have not tried. You can also use the Feather nRF52832 https://www.adafruit.com/product/3406 which has BLE support in Arduino and is "comming soon" via CircuitPython.

livid basin
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@grim night Thanks...I'm getting confused. I posted this question on the forum as well and was told it is not possible. Also, I'm seeing that the SPI pins are not available on the CPX. I haven't tried this yet, as I have not tinkered with BLE myself. It seems like it should be possible if the uC device acting as a peripheral can 1) initially get paired to a central device (cell phone), 2) can send out advertising packets after being paired and 3) acknowledge that the pairing was established. Still trying to see what the best solution for this simple task is.

grim night
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@livid basin Sorry -- it looks like I was mistaken about SPI on the CPX. I thought they were broken out to pads.

livid basin
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Bluetooth Low Energy (Bluetooth LE, colloquially BLE, formerly marketed as Bluetooth Smart) is a wireless personal area network technology designed and marketed by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (Bluetooth SIG) aimed at novel applications in the healthcare, fitness, bea...

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@grim night No problem. It sounds like I just need to pick up a device and see if I can get it to work like I want. Looks like a feather or ESP should do it.....

grim night
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Unless I am mistaken - the peripherl sends out advertising packet "unitl" it is connected to another device. not after.

livid basin
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@grim night Ok, that's fine. All I want is for it to attempt to connect, and set a flag if the connection is established.

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Then that would be a nice , very specific RF sensor.

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Since it is looking for a pairing of a known BLE device, you essentially have a way of knowing exactly who you are connecting to.

grim night
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the software interface to the nrf51 based BLE devices (BluefruitSPI or feather bluefuiits) is completely differnet from the nrf52 based system (feather nrf52832,esp32). I am not sure of the status of BLE on the ESP32 in Arduino. I have not tried it. It is not yet supported in CurcuitPython and I think is still a work in progress on Micropython.

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@livid basin take a look at this guide -- do any these examples fit your need.

livid basin
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@grim night Ok, so it looks like the BLE modules, like the Adafruit Bluefruit LE SPI Friend do not have any I/O or "connection estabilished" capability other than the SPI interface. So I would have to go with the Adafruit Feather nRF52 Bluefruit LE to act as a detection device.

grim night
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Cant you just set a GPIO pin yourself to report the status?

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that is query the BLE device for connected status and then set a GPIO pin on your board.

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Just to clarify, you need a microcontroller and the BLE SPI Friend or one fo the feathers with both on one board.

livid basin
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Yes. Seems like the way to go. Still not sure what BLE device to use....guess I just need to pick one. Looks like $9 for a dev board
ESP32 WiFi-BT-BLE MCU Module / ESP-WROOM-32 , up to $25 or more for a feather.

grim night
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what development environment are you using? For the ESP32 would you use the ESPRESSIF SDK or were you planning to use Arduino?

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If you are familiar with javascript, the espruino may be a simple way to go.

livid basin
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@grim night thanks.

grim night
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You're welcome -- sorry for the information overload -- The options are rapidly expanding 😉

grim night
grim night
livid basin
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@grim night that's amazing.

grim night
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just ran test of nepixel color picker -- worked fine.

livid basin
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Super cool. A bit busy with work stuff..will try and look at that some time.

grim night
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no problem. ping me if you have questions.

light wigeon
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trying to get this gemma m0 working on w10, cant get the gemmaboot drive to open

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its not a charge only cable

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how do i go about troubleshooting this?

candid cosmos
humble wing
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im having exactly the same problem

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cant get gemma boot drive to show up

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have tried everything the page says, different drivers, different usb ports, with a 2.0 hub, at a loss now

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2 different computers, windows 8 and windows 10

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5 different cables

next zephyr
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I working with the Flora, Gemma and the Playground Express with no issues at the end. I hope the CRICKIT will be delivered in some days todo more crazy stuff. It was a little bit of nightmare on W7 Pro to get it working under A-IDE 1.8.7. After 2 hours i got it. Stupid driver handling on Windows. It's a genewric issue to life with.

I came here to find some stuff and ideas and i hope i will find some. 1st i do that for my kids in the dark light time of the year and it works amazing.
Normally i work for tasmota on github. Writing diver and help people as admin on discord.
I also working on a wearable human monitoring device with muscle sensor, heartrate and oxygen value, GPS and multigas sensor. All hardware is in house and it needs time but the playground classic is my favor in this. I have a sonoff sv too with wifi on board. So have to see to get wifi on the classic going. For that i need some ideas or a hint which hardware can be used.

BTW: i saw the Adafruit Circuit Playground Express Enclosure. Which is a very good idea to isolate the electronics a bit. Very well done Adafruit! And now one for the Flora and Gemma, then Adafruit is a master of design 😃

woeful comet
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I have an idea for a project that would involve raising/lowering layers of fabric in a costume. Any ideas? Maybe a small, wearable motor?

woeful comet
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Maybe I just need to do some experiments with a micro servo. Hmm.

candid cosmos
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@woeful comet You are probably crossing into the realm of robotics when you develop your system. Fabric can be heavy and it drags along or gets caught up when it moves. Know that if you are using a microcontroller board you will have to make special consideration for driving and powering motors. One of the adafruit boards paired with a CRICKIT would work nicely. Also think about how to use pulleys or screw drives for your actuators. Hobby servos are strong but not really suited for heavy lifting. Did you have in mind moving a hoop of a garment? I've seen use of salvaged electric drill motors to serve as a winch in some costume expanding wings. Good luck.

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@next zephyr Welcome! Be sure to look through the Adafruit Learn section on some great projects. Their blog is also great for browsing to get ideas, especially wearables(not to mention some of the things I've got mentioned there...)

woeful comet
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@candid cosmos Thanks! Good food for thought. I'm still brainstorming so I'm not sure what the final might look like, but I was imagining raising and lowering sections of fabric like a stage curtain. You have some good thoughts for me to chew on though. The crickit seems kinda big and I was hoping to keep the tech as small as possible, but I actually have a crickit and haven't played with it yet so maybe this is a good reason to give it a try. crickit

stark storm
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It might make sense to do just as you said: do some experiments with a micro servo. It's not much investment, and you'll learn the sort of things servos can do, and how to work with them. Then you can consider scaling up to bigger servos or motors like @candid cosmos describes, if needed for the effect you want.

candid cosmos
woeful comet
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@candid cosmos Love it! Always nice to find new people to follow, regardless. @indigo fern Very cool prototype. Thanks also for the thoughts, @stark storm .

candid cosmos
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@woeful comet We aspire to inspire...

next zephyr
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@candid cosmos thanks for your advies. I had read some but found nothing new for me. Have to say that i have more then 30 years of industrial coding experinece (Port of Rotterdam (main coder), Satelite communication, Chip production machines, Food industry, Medical industry, robotics, water barrier technics (deich, dijk) and so on...). But i will have an eye on it to see some new things.

@drifting sorrel Badly enough we can't get all new hardware from Adafruit in our local store. Ha, ha, they say Ada has to edit here web page (the one from the local store) so new things can be ordered. Fools, that can't be possible they think we are stupid here. I had written an eMail to Ada and the answer was foolish too, have to say it because they did not understand what's going on. So the sales team is not the lightes one i think. Sorry to say but i'm not alone with that...

But in any case it is good to have hardware that works and a good community that exsists here!

light wigeon
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They should have an @sales for this. ;)

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@drifting sorrel

native loom
grand owl
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@candid cosmos I believe the usb 3.0 issue is what I’m encountering on 2017 usb can ne Ted threw usb 3.0 hub connect threw usb to back port of 2017 Imac that’s a critical error by Adafruits part if that’s what I to am encountering

candid cosmos
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@grand owl sorry but I think autocorrect got to your comment. If you think you have usb3.0 issues, sometimes it helps to connect through a USB 2.0 hub to the computer. Mac stuff is more sensitive or has more issues with using USB 3.0 on these microcontrollers.

next zephyr
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This channel of adafruit is not so busy as all the others. Are there no people who using it? It can be used in Fashion, Robotic, for Kids in the dark time of the year, for Human Health Monitoring (i working on it) and so many other things. The Playground Express has a strong M0 CPU and in combination with the Crickit? Don't ask it's amazing to work with that combination of hardware.

stark storm
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I monitor this channel, but only pipe up if I have a question or answer.

next zephyr
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Hi madbodger
good to hear that someone is here ;-). I'm here because adafruit. coding is no issue for me because i have more then 30 years of experience in industrial coding

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but i love the wearable stuff all in front because my health issues with my heart

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the human health monitoring device will be based on a playground express with 4 or 5 sensors. and wifi to do some actions but only when needeed.

stark storm
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That sounds like an excellent project! I think someone was talking about a similar project for monitoring dog health a while back, but I can't find that thread.

next zephyr
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Right i found it via goole and it's amazing. They are some really good ideas out there and when every human would deliver one good idea in his live, humanity would be much further and wiser i think.

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When the project is far enough to show something i will provide a link for it here.

stark storm
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Sweet! And feel free to ask for advice.

next zephyr
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so far i need it i will do that. And for sure for the xbee wifi part. it must be then a very small wearable breakout. But not today ;-). And thanks for the response to me.

candid cosmos
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@next zephyr Thanks for stopping by. I usually check all the channels but I originally suggested this as a locale that would welcome others just getting into electronics or where other categories were just too technical. Wearables is a pretty open category which I guess a lot of my projects fall into. I'm trying to bridge the creative types with the new tech. Once you get your feet wet, you naturally move onto more advanced stuff so this is a great place to be.

indigo fern
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I'm not in here as much as I would like to be, but I always try to pop in when folks ping me if I can be of help (thanks @candid cosmos ! adabot ) I love to see the cool projects people are working on in this channel 😃

candid cosmos
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@indigo fern Fantastic meow glove on Show and Tell! If you get into circuit bending or want to do something with a full music meow range...add this https://www.instructables.com/id/Meow-Keyboard-Output-Jack/

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Meowsic Keyboard Output Jack: When Wilgubeast told me about the supremely annoying Meowsic Keyboard that played cat meows instead of tones, I knew I had to have one. Two days before Christmas I obsessively tracked it down to Target. I then obsessively visited five stores overr...

next zephyr
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@indigo fern Hi, i had visit your site and i was surprised how much you have done. Really cool things. Thanks for sharing!

@candid cosmos so as i had written i have more them 30 years of coding experience with industrial stuff. Electronics, sensors, satelite technics and communication. You know the big harbor barrier Maeslantkeering Port of Rotterdam (The Netherlands)? It is done about the times when the sea is wild and gone high 😉 to have a save harbor and save the people against all the wild waters. Thats was my lifetime project.

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  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maeslantkering

The Maeslantkering is a storm surge barrier on the Nieuwe Waterweg, in South Holland, Netherlands. Controlled by a supercomputer, it automatically closes when Rotterdam is threatened by floods. Part of the Delta Works, it is one of largest moving structures on Earth, rivallin...

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Thanks @candid cosmos !!! Omg I need one of those, why didn’t I think of “meowsic”?! I’d love to get into circuit bending, been watching a lot of Look Mum No Computer videos on YouTube, super inspired!

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Thanks @next zephyr ! I like to try new things and I’ve learned sooo much from Adafruit 😊

next zephyr
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@indigo fern Please can you teach me to make these wristband for the under arm? How do you get them closed around the under arm? Really i have no idea to get that done ;-). I wish to make three for my kids for wearable things.

next zephyr
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@candid cosmos possible you can help because i'm a little bit irritated about the information from learn.adafruit. Different pages and different defines. Which one is the right one?

Some little question i have:

  1. Which is the external NeoPixel pin number on the Playground Express. I think it is A1 but did not fimd it on learn.adafruit
  • Which pin number is it? 6 or 8 or?

I would use the seeaw library for the crickit and that are two questions:

    1. when using not seesaw lib the A1 on playground is the neo pixel output. Is that pin 6 or 8? Looks like my 1st question at all.
    1. when using seesaw the the solderpoint under the crickit has to be changed to 'ss' but first cut the A1 connection. Then pin number 10 should be used. Is that the right one for seesaw?

I found some hints on three different locations under learn adafruit, but no place where all in one is defined. Something that can possibly done for the furure?

I ask only because i have used the different example but nothing works. The rgb leds are working on the flora with external use, so the leds are ok.
The internal rgb leds from the playground express are working too? So i'm in the define war 😉

robust aurora
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1 : "The data input can originate from any digital pin on the Arduino, but all the example code is set up for digital pin 6 "

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A1 is also D6 yes

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the third ones outta my area but gimmee a sec to check

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"If you have a Circuit Playground Crickit then the NeoPixels are driven by the Circuit Playground A1 pad by default. This way you can use the MakeCode emulator and built in Circuit Playground CircuitPython library. However, if you want, you can cut the jumper underneath the Crickit and solder closed the ss pad so that the seesaw chip controls the NeoPixels (for advanced hackers only)."
https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-crickit-creative-robotic-interactive-construction-kit?view=all

Make your robot pal who's fun to be with using Crickit!

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Only cut if you want to use a different pin then A1/D6 @next zephyr

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To clear up confusion pin 8 is on board Neopixels. pins 1-6 can be used for externals

next zephyr
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@robust aurora
1st thank you for your answer.
I used A1/D6 defined as: #define PIN 6

But it won't work so that's a little bit strange. On a Flora all is working. Will take the playground express away from the crickit board and test it standalone.

About pin 8 you are right:
#define CPLAY_NEOPIXELPIN 8

I don't code in makecode i use arduino ide and notpad++. Arduino ide for debug and download only ;-)

Ok will do the test again and report back. Possible i have overseen one thing.

robust aurora
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I've only played with the circuit express in mu, but all other boards I program the same way as you:P

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did you by chance set the pin to output as well ...?

next zephyr
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i don't think so. have i todo that? Thought A1 was output as default

robust aurora
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in setup

 pinMode(PIN, OUTPUT);
next zephyr
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ok will check it again and report back

robust aurora
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if your using multiple pins on your board for various things I have to reccomend changing your variable name from PIN to NeoPIN or something that describes it 😛

next zephyr
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i know ;-). but that's only some tests for the kids to have things for the drak time of the year, ha, ha.

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aha the default strandtest from the Adafruit NeoPixel example works. So i must have something wrong in that case. will test further but not toady i think. Thank You anyway. And i will report later...

robust aurora
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sounds good, I don't often check here, but someones usually around to help!

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and if you are having issues with code you can always throw segments in here

next zephyr
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Yes i know, it´s also not new for me. But the express board well. +/'

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candid cosmos
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@next zephyr I don't have a Crikit so I can only point you to the learn guide. I think using Arduino programming may be a little more involved, especially for a beginner since the focus is to wean off of Arduino and go to CircuitPython which is developed to work well with it. Even with the Circuit Playground Classic and it's arduino library, pin names had to be referred to as board.A1 The Crickit guide has a step to install the Seesaw(I2C chip) arduino library which you may not have done. Feel free to ask in #help-with-projects for others to chime in.

next zephyr
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@candid cosmos Thanks for your answer.
BTW: i'm not a beginner at all. I know about the difference in the pin naming. At the end i had read the *.h files and it was clear after all.
The issue itself was different because the learn sites name things sometimes so and sometimes so. I will write it down and send it to the guys who manage that stuff.
After some tests i took what i think it was right and it was working at all.
The other point is the pin 6 is overall the same it likes. So next step was to use and change the sample in Arduino to get it work with seesaw.
BTW: i soldered a switch for the solderpin A1/ss under the crickit board so that i can switch from one part to the other when it is needed.
Last point is the installation process. I do that by copy the needed things into the Arduino folder and it works everytime. The Seesaw lib was already installed because i needed servo and motor tests. So as i said i'm not a beginner in all that. I working on the esp8266 core to fix things and i'm writing drivers for the alternative iTead's sonoff firmware for Tasmota on github. You can find me there as a admin with the same avatar name ;-)

And again: Thank You for your advise and hints!

verbal hatch
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@verbal hatch Nice. You'll get hooked on adding neopixels to everything. The trick to videoing or taking pictures of LEDs or neopixels in action is to turn down the brightness to very low. The camera will thank you for that. You can then turn the brightness up for regular use after filming your demo reel.

verbal hatch
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I think at one point in filming, caitlinsdad, I set ISO to 100 on my Samsung J7. I'll try to do more with an oldie iPhone 6 that we only use for videoing now and on a DJI Osmo mobile. Yes, neopixels are not easy especially with sparkles in the code. I need to find a way to make an RGB LED extension for block coding the BrainPad by Gus Issa at GHI electronics. Do you know anything about adding extensions for non -Adafruit Cortex M (x) boards? I think his is M4. Thx. (or where I might go or who I might ask to get info . on this, like the "light" extension on Trinket M0)

candid cosmos
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@verbal hatch That behind the scenes coding stuff is beyond me. You might want to wander into the #help-with-makecode channel and ask to see if MakeCode can be used in a similar fashion or if the mechanics for block code can be applied. Good luck.

verbal hatch
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Looks possible, @candid cosmos, see the latest post at MakeCode. I too know nothing about the programming part but kids just love LED light shows and learning how to change them up with instant feedback. For Trinket M0 this coding with MakeCode is so much easier than Arduino which is easy enough for teens. We'll see how this progresses. BTW, how old is Caitlin? We are working up projects based on Music and wearable electronic fashion , especially to connect with girls. I'll have more designs to feature all this as things progress in the new year...unfortunately, Adafruit seems to be out of the Trinket M0, my new go-to board for block coding with MakeCode. I have 3 but now am hesitant to give them away in kits. I did ask Adafruit to contact me when the board comes back in stock..let's hope soon.

candid cosmos
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@verbal hatch The kid is in college already...time flies. Hmmm, some places you might want to look for ideas or inspiration for wearables and wearable/music is instructables, adafruit blog and Learn sections. Smore magazine(new mag geared to ramp up girl's interest in STEM), Hackspace magazine(free pdf download) or even ask @indigo fern , she just made the cat meow glove. There was a youtube video of Ariana Grande using the glove music controller that was developed by Imogen Heap which was pretty cool. I guess further down the road with more advanced boards you can do all the NeoTrellis music stuff that John Park is working on for his show. I have found the Circuit Playground Express board is great for making since a lot of the basic sensors you want to use are built in and don't have to deal with the complication of adding them on to something like a bare Trinket.

verbal hatch
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Thanks, I'm looking at all your references and your yourtube channel. Good work, right up the alley that I'm interested in !

next zephyr
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@verbal hatch Hi Frank, i think you are from good old germany?
May i ask why you do the coding in 'makecode'?
It is because you are not a C/C++ coder or because the hardware can't be coded in the old ways?

verbal hatch
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See my response, mike2nl on personal message.

verbal hatch
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I see MakeCode as a learning tool for young people and others. JavaScript based I think, so a basis for learning internet work and MakerMakeCode for development hardware like Arduino but better in some ways, works with Chromebooks on line but no fee and works with Chrombooks off line too.

next zephyr
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in that cases you are right @verbal hatch

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but when they are older i think it will be the next step to go to java or c/c++. These are the most used languages in the industry and badly enough we all have to live with it. Before that all changes hundreds of years have to go i think...
For now and my last 30 years in industrial coding and project mangament i have seen so many things that went wrong and good things too in different coding languages. So lets hope that people and the industry wakes up fast to get a good and well designed standard so that everyone in the world can contribute to the community. And when these MakeCode is a way to it then be it. We need only a way from that to the next standard i think...

verbal hatch
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I'll make a video of this and the code for it; not especially complex or novel but I flatter myself that this is a contribution to the community because the coding to drive the dual neopixel rings on the hat was done entirely off-line but using a $79 Chormebook (E-Bay) and an $8,95 Adafruit Trinket M0 ; wearable with a $5.88 5volt battery pack. It will take me several minutes to make up the vid. and give links to parts. MakeCode used for programming. Chromebooks are said to work only on-line with the Chrome OS. ; proven here not true with MakeCode.

next zephyr
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Today i recieved 4 more Playground Express and the Crickit's

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Mooore fun at all

next zephyr
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So all CPX are mounted on the Crickit's and nicely coded in C++. All works fine with my own new test program. Test is the real code, LIPO's with adafruit lipo loader and some clear instructions for loading. Next step is some toys for kids in wood for them. When it is ready i will bring it on the 25. december to the child hospital near my little city (500 souls). All of you have a nice and peaecful XMAS with her love ones.

alpine hollow
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Does anyone know if I can tear down a smartwatch to retrieve the gps and screen?

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Mainly the gps

stark storm
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I'm guessing it's highly integrated so the module that provides the GPS probably provides other functionality as well.

alpine hollow
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Heck

stark storm
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A lot of highly-integrated chips have been produced for the mobile phone market, and the trend just increased for smartwatches.

verbal hatch
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https://youtu.be/ZKnWaWowsWs : Obviously, I'm not a musician ! Since the tune is recorded to the hard drive of the roll up keyboard and transmitted as digital (+ , -)output via earphone jack and wires to the earrings and since the earring inputs are just pos. / neg. it seems like there ought to be a way to record the tune to an SD card reader then wired to the Trinket M0 ? No ? This all could be worn as a costume, one would think.

Barbie mannequin wears LED light show pendant and small (8 Ohm, 0.5 Watt) earrings which are wired from roll-up keyboard via solderless breadboard. The Adafr...

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@viscid stream , any ideas?

stark storm
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I'm guessing you could simply digitize the audio and write it to the SD card, but I don't know enough about the keyboard to suggest more direct methods. I'm surprised a roll-up keyboard even has a hard drive.

verbal hatch
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I used the term "hard drive" loosely , madbodger. I mean , as opposed to a removable micro sd card or some such. It just has a 'record' function with a ticking metronome that is almost as annoying as my piano playing !

viscid stream
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@alpine hollow Definitely not, but just grab a cheap gps module online 😃 Screens are fairly cheap as well, depends on what you want to build

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@verbal hatch

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*What are you trying to do?

native loom
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To take the recorded output tune, which can be recorded by pushing the 'record' button on the electronic keyboard and which I show in the vid. can be played back via wires into the remote speakers (ear rings) ; record that digital output onto an SD card ,which the read/write module of the card is plugged into the 170 tie hole solderless breadboard shown attached to the mannequin's back (could be 400 tie hole). This then makes the music portable using 5 volt battery pack. Hence the neopixel pendant and music are wearable. Just wondering what code or system could be used to program the Trinket M0 on the breadboard to record the incoming signal from the keyboard's recorded output ?

stark storm
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It's probably worth looking at whether the M0's ADC is fast enough to do so (I don't know offhand).

covert void
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Hey I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for wearable displays. Something like a smart watch

next zephyr
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@covert void possible an OLED 0.96" display. Small and use less power and with I2C bus (4 pin, SLC, SDA, +, -)

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you can find them with blue background, white text, yellow/white text, yellow text and real color versions

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i use them for my wearable human health monitor based on Circuit Playground Express

covert void
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Thanks but a little too simple for me. I am looking for a medium-end display. Something similar to whats on the Pebble Time, Fitbit Surge

next zephyr
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Then you can look at 16x2 or 20x2 or 20x4 blue LCD displays, or a e-paper one. But all need more power.
But yesterday i came along an 1.44" or a 1.5"oled display on ali express. Possible that size is OK for you? Lost the link but search for it.

stark storm
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e-paper only needs power when updating

covert void
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Thanks @next zephyr

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@stark storm I am currently looking into using e-paper as its clean, simple interface, and low-power. Probably one from SHARP. My only problem is the backlight issue. I believe you cannot see its contents at night.

tight glade
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stick a led on top?

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lol

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light it from the front

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like those thinkpad keyboard lights

next zephyr
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Playground Express:
found some funny code about sound by notes. Good idea so far. I'm a big fan of Lordi and Classical Music. Why use notes only when you can use a MP3 Player.

A while back i wrote/updated a MP3 Player driver for the iTead's sonoff devices for the tasmota firmware to be more conform and that peace is working very well (xdrv_14_mp3.ino). You can wakeup with music or add music or sounds to actions via web, mqtt, HA and other inputs.

So why not use a Flora or a CPX?
Easy...DFRobot has a tiny little board that can work between 3.0 and 5V and has a serial in and output, Mono and Stereo speaker output and a DAC output.
Had done some little test with serial out on the CPX and the serial input only on that tiny player. It works..
Connected the two tiny Adafruit speaker on it (ID 1669) and voila, stereo sound. Yeah, no hifi but that is the next step in a backpack, ha, ha.
So now some sensors to the CPX (GPS, light, Heart sensor, XYZ, and so on). The heart sensor is funny because our heart reacts on moods from our self. I know because after my 4th heart attack in 2017 march 30, many things and me are very changed. So i copied some music on the SD card for happy mood, mid mood amd sad mood. Yeah the sad mood happens when you had 4 HA's. Unbelievable it works. While 24 hours i had the senosors connected and were gone trough the day and in 90% the sensor was right after 20 times fixing the code, ha, ha. Mood tracker..
Next step will be the 100% wearable with sound and mood light (led's on board).
Bad thing is we can't get the new case from adafruit here. That transparent one for the Curcuit Playground Express.
Ada ID 3915
The Lipo (in a small lipo safe case),the player and the breakoutboard forr the heart sensor can be put in a pocket.
the speaker i had placed a little top and front of the little holes of the shoulders.
In that project i will put a lot more work in to get it perfect. Possible i will publish it on my web page so everyone can do it's own.

silent pier
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the outer and inner diameters are the same, but I don't know if it's just a snug fit or if they won't actually fit if you try to put them together

covert void
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/ how would I light it up?

stark storm
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It's not light emitting and I think it isn't transparent either, so maybe just shine a lamp on it?

sand thicket
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front/side lighting

radiant bay
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@silent pier it fits - I just tested a few and they're snug (so wires would have to stay on one side) and you may have to file down the jewel a bit

silent pier
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awesome, thanks for checking on that @radiant bay

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that will make my hoodie idea work 😄

primal glen
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I'm seeing weird behavior with my gemma MO. What does a solid pink/purple led mean?

light wigeon
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If anyone is interested, I recently finished a holiday tie that used the CPX. The CPX is my new favorite board. Extremely versatile. For me, controlling the board with Python made development go much faster. https://www.instructables.com/id/The-Holi-Tie/

Instructables.com

The Holi-Tie: This is the Holi-Tie, a festive tie designed to be worn during the holidays. Loosely based on the Ampli-Tie by Becky Stern which uses a Flora board, the Holi-Tie uses a Circuit Python Express (CPX) microcontroller to drive the NeoPixel animations ...

fair needle
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Hey all, I've been looking into buying or making a device with the form factor of a wrist band or wrist watch that can communicate over bluetooth to a PC and can send customizable keystrokes when buttons are pressed.

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Does something like this exist already? If not, what's a good way of going about getting parts that would compliment this form factor? I looked at the feather but it's rather large for what I'm wanting to do

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I also realize I need to power the thing somehow. What's a good way to power something using bluetooth compactly?

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I guess I'm asking for recommendations on two things:

  1. A small micro controller board capable of communicating over Bluetooth and is low-power
  2. A way of powering the device in such a way so that it's not bulky, preferably self-containable
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I have soldering equipment, a 3D printer, access to a laser cutter, and access to a mill, and I'm going to design the wrist... thing in Fusion.

long mango
stark storm
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You could look at some of the bluetooth gamepads (like Mocute) for ideas as well.

fair needle
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Hey, thanks!

fair needle
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I think if there was a FLORA or GEMMA that had on board bluetooth support, it'd be the perfect form factor for what I want to do.

candid cosmos
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@fair needle You should look into one of the Feather boards with BLE. They are small enough for wearables and you don't need to wire up an external module to the Flora. You would also be able to add on the Feather wing accessory boards for things like a small display or LED matrix.

fair needle
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I did look at the feather BLE, but it looks rather long for what I'm trying to do.

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I could just run out and buy one at my local shop and try it out though

stark storm
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Red Bear Labs offers the "BLE Nano", which is pretty small. I'm looking at using one for a cosplay prosthetic.

fair needle
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Oh that's mad tiny and about the size I need

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I might pick up a feather too just to see if I can still integrate it somehow, but thanks for the rec on the BLE Nano

rancid hornet
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Anyone know if there's a service that will etch custom LCD patterns?

stark storm
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Yup. EEVblog did a series of episodes on the process.

rancid hornet
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Thanks for the tip, gonna check out his series on it 😄

stark storm
rancid hornet
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I'm thinking it might be easier to just make some LED diffusers and do it that way. I'm wanting to make a flexible segmented b/w display for a costume.

stark storm
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Ah, very few LCDs are flexible.

rancid hornet
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Yeah, it was just one idea. I still could do it, but it seems like a hassle.

stark storm
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I think your idea of LEDs and diffusers is likely more practical for that use. You could also use electroluminescent panels (which are flexible), but they require high voltage which you may not want in a costume.

rancid hornet
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I saw some adafruit stuff about 3d printed flexible diffusers.

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I thought about EL panels, but they're also more expensive.

stark storm
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True. I bought some inexpensive ones from a surplus outfit, but in general, LEDs are a lot cheaper.

tidal estuary
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@rancid hornet if you want a small flexible display, epaper is the way to go

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I just bought a 2.9" flexible b/w, and its great if you can figure out how to use the drivers

next zephyr
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@tidal estuary have you a link for me?

  • 2.9" flexible b/w looks fine for me.
tidal estuary
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But bear in mind a few things:

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  1. This is horribly documented by the manufacturer, read through this GitHub for more information (managed by a customer, not GooDisplay) https://github.com/ZinggJM/GxEPD
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  1. The refresh rate on these is very slow
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I'd also be happy to help you once it arrives, (I spent a week finding all this and connecting dots) send me a PM if you need help

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oh and never press the reset button on the arduino if the epaper is connected, it'll cause permenant damage

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I'm using this display to create a cool wearable band, and pretty close to being done too

rancid hornet
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I like some of those displays, though I'm trying to make a flexible display with a backlight (or LED/EL phosphor layers).

tidal estuary
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oh cool

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I don't know of any consumer flexible LCDs or OLEDs

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If you manage to find any, definitely let me know tho lol

verbal hatch
stark storm
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Wow, that one surprises me.

next zephyr
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It's a good one.

tidal estuary
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@verbal hatch still not purchaseable ;p

unreal bluff
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do you think sewable neopixels could make a good screen?

stark storm
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Yeah, maybe shining through something like a white lab coat for diffusion they could look amazing. You might have to run several power taps to various places, as sewable connections seem to me like they'd have more voltage drop that soldered-on copper wire.

unreal bluff
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Ok thx👌

stark storm
unreal bluff
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Nice

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I was thinking closer to a 100 * 40 or so matrix flexible

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More or less

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Probably less

stark storm
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You could always start out with a small matrix then add to it. I'm guessing the pixels will be separated anyway, so adjusting the wiring to add more shouldn't be too much trouble.

silent pier
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Morning (depending on location :P). I'm running into odd issues with an adafruit jewel + ring I wired up. When I run a simple routine (https://github.com/chris-schmitz/bullseye/blob/master/code.py) I'm getting odd colors from the pixels. When I hook up a neopixel strip to the same controller the pixels light up as expected.

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any idea of what could be happening? I'm hoping I didn't do something to mess up the jewel and ring

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I'm providing the 5 volts from the trinket m0 via an alligator clip to the exposed portion of the 5v power jumper towards the bottom of the picture

stark storm
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Might be one is RGB and one is RGBW.

silent pier
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hmm, I'll double check on that. I def tried to be careful when I was ordering to make sure I was getting the equivalent parts re: rgb vs rgbw, but I've made mistakes in the past 😛

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ty

candid cosmos
silent pier
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🎉 🎉

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that's totally the issue!

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I love it when my facepalms make me realize that I prob didn't ruin my hardware ;P

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ty @stark storm and @candid cosmos for the help 🙇

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oh no! there's not an LED emoji for the white led ;P

stark storm
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There would have to be a new Circuit Playground Friend, and we'd have to come up with a name. Blanco? Snow? Sunny? Gwyn?

silent pier
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hmm, concentrated-rainbow 😛

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not a very good character name

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I do like blanco actually

radiant bay
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Hermione

silent pier
stark storm
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Beauty! That other effect was neat looking, but not what you were going for at the time.

silent pier
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ha, def 😃

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I was thinking "well, if I did ruin the neopixel rings I can at least use them in a 'random light pattern' project" 🙃

stark storm
silent pier
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lol

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nice

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Filing that one in the back of my head

real veldt
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hey, I am curious, when it comes to wearables, how do you clean them, or at least the clothes they are on? Or am I misunderstanding wearables?

candid cosmos
real veldt
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ahh, ok. Thank you 😃 I also did a bit more research

candid cosmos
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It's best to design the electronics to be removeable, at least the mainboard and stuff, neopixels can stay on for a gentle wash...

pliant fjord
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Why don´t just use isopropanol?

candid cosmos
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I think in general if you are considering using solvents to clean the entire garment, your own setup would be more expensive than a trip to the dry cleaners. A lot of wearable electronics are embedded in costumes and the materials or finishes on them may not tolerate the use of solvents, even a weak solution of rubbing alcohol. Soap and water probably work best to get out playa mud and dust.

light wigeon
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I had been wondering

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I wanted to create a z80 smart watch that runs basic on a screen and has a fold out keyboard for typing

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Is it possible creating something like this?

stark storm
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Everything but the keyboard seems like a reasonable personal project, but I don't know how I'd source or fabricate a fold-out keyboard on a watch size scale.

light wigeon
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@stark storm I mean I want it to be where the keyboard flips out of the screen

stark storm
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I think I understand, but I'm guessing the screen is no more than 30mm wide or so, and I don't know of any such keyboards, other than salvaged from things like calculator watches.

light wigeon
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I dont want it that small

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It's pretty hard to explain

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I just dont want it smart watch small style

stark storm
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Yeah, if you're thinking of something a little chonkier, some smartphone or Bluetooth keyboards might serve (Tindie sells one that might fill the bill).

light wigeon
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But the most confusing is how to cram the CPU and all the computer in a small space

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I dont want it smart watch style

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Maybe something bulkier

stark storm
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It's probably just a few chips these days, and I'm guessing you can get a Z80 in a SOIC or smaller form factor (or emulate one in a small FPGA if that's acceptable to you).

light wigeon
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I heard of a SMC z80

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Its in a small package

stark storm
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Yeah, that might fill the bill.

light wigeon
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I could just use a normal sized ROM

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And use SMC mounted RAM

stark storm
light wigeon
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Interesting

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I could just go full on surface mounting

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Try to make the computer a bit bigger then a credit card

stark storm
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That should be completely doable, and would probably fit on a single board. I did a quick look around and Zilog still makes Z80 chips, and offers one in a 44-pin PLCC just 16.5mm on a side.

light wigeon
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I'm a 14 year old kid and I am understanding most of the old hardware

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Its pretty interesting