general-chat

[honest moth]

this should be good

[fading hare]

Pro Publica. https://features.propublica.org/diabetes-amputations/black-american-amputation-epidemic/

TRIPLE the rate.

This guy had an amazing career ahead of him. He pivoted once he realized what was going on and just dedicated everything to saving as many as he could.

[honest moth]

...

[fading hare]

North Carolina had a eugenics program running until 1973. It targeted Black people, especially those with mental or other disabilities and focused on sterilization of "perpetrators." It incorrectly (on purpose) labeled Black people as s~x offenders just so that they would qualify for the "fix." Nineteen Seventy Three. Man. People were burning crosses in this country in the 60's.

So, I am Swedish. I moved here in 2006. This just blows my mind.

So, when people try to include me in the "White Guilt" I am just like... hey, so what flags did all those slave ships fly? Yeah, that's right. British. Dutch. Spanish. French. Now, what's your ancestry, again?

[honest moth]

I'm a ||white american||, and I can say without a doubt that this entire shindig is nothing but heck in a handbasket. it baffles me to this day that people are still racist to one another just because of the differences in speech, skin color, personality, you name it! Rather than be ignorant and refuse to get to know the other side, how about you start paying attention and listening? You might learn a thing or two.

bloody 'ell...

[fading hare]

Those same people (if they are in the three digit IQ range) are usually super quick to point out that the Vikings in Scandinavia also had slaves. Uh. Yeah, over a thousand years ago. Well, then our culture got completely erased by Christianity, and there's not really any records of anything other than we were a bunch of heathens until the lord's light shone down upon us.

[honest moth]

Ugh...

don't even get me started on that nonsense

[fading hare]

Hey, I am baptized and confirmed. Made my grandmother's day. I just don't agree with the way that certain religions expanded in northern Europe. The same religions that burned women on the stake for being smarter than a rock. You know, like Ada(fruit), that magician. She would definitely be hunted down and persecuted by some good old boys. Other women would snitch on her just so their neighbors wouldn't turn them in.

That's the point of origin. That's our legacy. We do our best to forget, to explain it away, but it's still there. Right in your face, and you need to remember, you need to tell these stories because if you don't, you give up that floor to people that will deny everything. Like the people that deny that the holocaust ever happened.

[honest moth]

for once, i wish the legacy we build is one of peace and prosperity. FOR ONCE...but you are right. Regardless, the lessons of the past must never be forgotten.

[fading hare]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-she-tirned-me-into-a-newt-gif-14862319

[honest moth]

...for those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[fading hare]

Indeed. The first sign of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

[honest moth]

Nailed it.

man, this planet is so f)(*ed up.

[fading hare]

lol

[honest moth]

lol

[fading hare]

it's a human trait... we simply cannot see beyond the cessation of our existence. We can try to abstractly imagine it, but really, it's just not something that we are mentally equipped to deal with. I think that's why people keep pushing problems in front of themselves. Maybe their children will be better. Maybe they will fix the world. Maybe they will undo the entire industrial revolution!

I'm not a pessimist. I am merely an optimist with more information.

[honest moth]

Dear the citizens of planet Earth,

Stop talking, start doing.

[honest moth]

aye, same

[fading hare]

That said. I believe in this Discord, and the people that work for Adafruit. They have fostered inclusive practices and they are some of the coolest people on this planet. Maybe this is my plea to not get kick-banned for being a silly old Swede, or maybe it's just a well-disguised love letter. There's so many wonderful people here that help others just because they can. No strings. They don't even care if you bought products from them, they just help you because they know that helping you become smarter is something that everyone will benefit from.

[honest moth]

Heheh, I agree with you there. This place is unlike any other I know of, and that says a lot considering most of the Discord Servers I've been in feel the same regardless of what they were built around. Sure, some rules I slip up on from time to time, but unlike the others, they are reasonable. Plus, I feel like I can talk about anything here and people will actually know what in the heck I am talking about.

It's like a home away from home.

[fading hare]

All day. My only problem is that it feels so much like home that I sometimes am too candid when I should probably shut my mouth and go write some code instead. 😄

[honest moth]

lol

I know that feeling XD

blimey, it's getting late where I'm at.

i just noticed :P

[honest moth]

Welp, have a good night torgny, and thank you so much for the chat, it was lovely. 💚

[fading hare]

Same! Have a good night!

[tardy badger]

Not sure how many people in the community are Pokémon fans but sometimes I play Pokémon games on Twitch (not posting a link for reasons) but if you ever feel like hanging out my Twitch user is NotUBRz

[honest moth]

phew...transfer successful.

[raw jasper]

I know that feeling

Since you are interested in BCI, have you seen https://synchron.com/technology/brain-io ?

[honest moth]

Oooooooooooooo!!

[raw jasper]

It's a novel, minimally-invasive approach intended to accomplish motor cortex recordings through the brain's vasculature

[honest moth]

fascinating

[honest moth]

thank you for providing me with another resource to research. This looks cool

Of course!

[crystal ore]

Interesting technology twist, thanks for sharing!

[orchid zephyr]

Can someone explain the fact that neutral and ground are at a higher potential than hot and ground?

[arctic peak]

If that cord is plugged into the wall: your meter is set for DC volts not AC

[honest moth]

should i just delete the registry keys at this point?

[raw jasper]

w/e you do, take a backup of the registry first

Also making a system restore checkpoint before changes could end up proving a good idea 🙂

[honest moth]

yep, i'm no stranger to that. ty though

[orchid zephyr]

It’s been passed through an ac to dc converter

[wary herald]

Oh, gosh

[wary herald]

Yessss

[wary herald]

Others are real toxic, and I was expecting that when I joined, but I was COMPLETELY surprised

[lusty fossil]

Look into California's

It'll make you mad

Or how CA jumpstarted/pioneered mass incarceration

[wary herald]

All the religions in the world have had their problems. Christians had the Inquisition, Muslims had certain September problems, Agnostic and Atheists had eugenics and the French Revolution, but that doesn't stop people from believing in them. I agree with you, but every religion has had issues with expanding, and everyone has a religion, whether they acknowledge it or not, so everyone's had problems. Don't be offended at all by this, I'm a Christian and I've admitted Christianity's mistakes, so I'm not above this.

[wary herald]

Yeahhhh....

[lusty fossil]

Sigh, I usually get eczema flare ups when I'm stressed but I'm pretty low stress right now and one decided to crop up.

Don't have eczema kids, it's no fun.

[raw jasper]

Talks sternly to immune system Don't have eczema!

[lusty fossil]

This is the way.

I've gotten it on the pads of my feet before. THAT was rough, literally and figuratively

[raw jasper]

And to top it off, we literally have no idea how to treat it

Beyond steroid cream, that is

[lusty fossil]

Steroids, the first line of defense, are not good for your skin long term.

There's another med but it has some other drawback I can't remember plus I can't afford it.

[raw jasper]

Yup! Makes the epithelium thinner

(sends jug of petroleum jelly)

[lusty fossil]

Lol

That works pretty well for the pain

What works GREAT is coal tar cream

But it stains everything it touches yellow

[raw jasper]

I don't think we have that in Europe

[lusty fossil]

So for my feet I wore old white socks I didn't care about

Overnight

Really? That's surprising

[raw jasper]

is it a medical product, or some "alternative" remedy

[lusty fossil]

It's a home remedy?

Old fashioned

Old fashioned over the counter cream

Unpopular because of the staining

[raw jasper]

Never seen it around, and I'm the sort of person who would notice such things

[lusty fossil]

I think I had to go online to get it

Might be banned in Europe, it has carcinogens in it

No apparent increased risk of cancer but still

It IS made of a coal byproduct

[raw jasper]

https://dermnetnz.org/topics/coal-tar

destructive distillation of bituminous coal 🦀(!)

In its natural form coal tar is a thick, nearly black, viscous liquid with a characteristic smell. It is most often obtained in solution form (0.1 to 20%) and mixed with other ingredients, such as salicylic acid and sulphur, to make lotions, creams, ointments and shampoos

[lusty fossil]

The cream was yellow IIRC

Reeked

[raw jasper]

Yup, that explains the effect, it has the most primitive NSAID in it

[lusty fossil]

But yeah it worked really well

[raw jasper]

(salicylic acid, the stuff ppl used before they found out the acetylated form = aspirin is better)

[lusty fossil]

Acetylation basically makes everything better lol

[raw jasper]

Yup, sulfur smells like the devil 😛

[lusty fossil]

E.g. Diacetylmorphine

Used to be sold over the counter!

And was part of care packages for the front in WWI!

Times change (for the better)

[raw jasper]

Yeah, old medicine was like that

[lusty fossil]

That was like 20 years (sarcasm) after surgery was done by barbers who hit you over the head first

I think doctors had accepted hand washing as important by then

[lusty fossil]

Oh yes

[real falcon]

honestly I hope someday scientists can find a method to "edit" attack and dont attack list in humans

so allegries can be gone

[lusty fossil]

Lithium IS kind of a wonder drug

[raw jasper]

I'm sure it is for those who need it

But it's certainly not something to add in a soda! 😛

[lusty fossil]

It's cheap and effective generally

Oh agreed

[real falcon]

or maybe get infected with mesiles long enough for it to erase your immune system memory, then get cured (and get liver transplant you backed up right?)

I wonder if that'd wipe allegries too

[lusty fossil]

It's gonna be something in the gut flora, I swear

Just a guess

We're still in the infancy of our understanding of the gut

[real falcon]

doubt it

[lusty fossil]

Just a guess. But the gut influences a lot of other systems

[raw jasper]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC5023156/

[lusty fossil]

I don't know nearly enough medicine to read that. I recognize IgE

[hasty wedge]

alright

just placed the order for my "most expensive pi case"

(it's not a pi case but it will become one)

[raw jasper]

I’m not sure I want to find out the answer to this, but why is that doll so expensive?

[hasty wedge]

it's huge

50cm tall

[raw jasper]

Is it handcrafted or something?

[hasty wedge]

very few of them are being produced

and yes, the quality is really good

it's hand sculpted then digitized into CAD files

then produced in small quantity

[raw jasper]

CAD for fabric?

Interesting…

[hasty wedge]

also, the internal skeleton is quite advanced

[raw jasper]

Oh. It’s articulated.

Makes sense.

Do you need it as a prop or is it a decorative item?

[hasty wedge]

decorative item

then I thought hey, what will happen if I use two adafruit 1.44 inch lcds to replace it's eyes

[raw jasper]

I guess it will get extra creepy? 😄

[hasty wedge]

depends on the asset file I loaded into the pi

[raw jasper]

Guess so

Networked raspberry pi anime doll

And fully articulated at that

That sounds unique!

[hasty wedge]

[raw jasper]

Put a home assistant in and it will be ready to use as a Halloween prop too

[hasty wedge]

Alexa

[burnt tendon]

I am here for this absurdity.

[raw jasper]

🤣

Next step would be to rig your vTuber model to the articulations

Spooky ventriloquism at a distance

[hasty wedge]

[raw jasper]

You seem to be pretty immersed in your vTuber character

Is it common to make custom reactions featuring one’s character for use in online interactions, or is that a personal thing?

[hasty wedge]

idk

I know how to draw some basic anime stuff

so I just gave that a shot

and since they're in my emote quick select slot

I might just use them

[raw jasper]

Makes sense 🙂

I have literally no idea about what the whole vTuber thing is about! All I know is that it’s a form of content presentation featuring a 3D model rigged to an expression detector

[hasty wedge]

it's a pretty crazy scene

just stay away from it

[raw jasper]

I’ll believe you

I hope that whatever you’re doing over there is fulfilling to you; If it’s not, I hope you will find something more fulfilling for yourself

[hasty wedge]

it's just a personal hobby

Doing vtuber definitely not gonna give me enough money

That's why I am looking for internship right now while in university

[raw jasper]

Have you looked into scholarships?

Also do internships in your university give you course credit?

[hasty wedge]

I am already taking a considerable amounts of scholarships

I am just looking for personal internships for my future career

[raw jasper]

That’s great!

[lusty fossil]

Anyone with a Samsung phone recognize this app that appeared on my phone overnight?

I can't delete it, only disable

I despise this

[unkempt nimbus]

It’s just bloatware

https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/sa5xco/anyone_else_got_deco_pic_automatically_installed/

[lusty fossil]

Oof

Hate bloatware

[unkempt nimbus]

And this is why I use iOS

[lusty fossil]

I'm considering a switch

This phone is new but when the battery dies I'll consider an iphone

I already got an iPad and I want a MacBook so I guess I'm going whole hog

[wooden schooner]

Idk whether I'd trade "bloatware so other companies using the same infra can make money" for "there is a monopoly so there are no providers to ask for bloatware"

Though I do think that unremovable bloatware is pretty much inherently a pathology

[hasty wedge]

Bloatware

This is why I use LineageOS with microG

[lusty fossil]

I'm excited to own an M1 MacBook

It'll be 6+ months before I can afford the one I want but still

Wait I just remembered a big ongoing expense I'm taking on....make it 1 year+

[umbral phoenix]

I think I invented a new word in some code comments I just re-discovered. I had previously deprecated some feature, and commented accordingly. Later, I reprecated it.

[lusty fossil]

Lol

Is the deprecating again?

Or un deprecating

[umbral phoenix]

de-deprecating

[lusty fossil]

nice

[raw jasper]

undeprecating?

[wooden schooner]

From etymonline:

deprecate (v.)

1620s, "to pray against or for deliverance from, pray the removal or deliverance from," from Latin deprecatus, past participle of deprecari "to pray (something) away," from de "away" (see de-) + precari "to pray" (from PIE root *prek- "to ask, entreat"). Meaning "to express disapproval, urge against" is from 1640s. Related: Deprecated, deprecating.

Wow, I didn't realize that deprecation, which seemed routine and perfunctory, was in reality such a passionate matter

[raw jasper]

Deliver us from the curse of APIv1, bring us to the promised land of APIv2 😄

[raw jasper]

Wow, I had no idea

[wooden schooner]

wow, this made me imagine a ||Bible fanfic in which the delivery of the Canaanites to the Promised Land is an allegory for deprecation cycles in software engineering||

[lusty fossil]

Lol

Don't you just love when someone mounts a critical enclosure UNDER a building for no discernable reason? Oh you don't because you're a normal person and you don't employ children, the only people who can reasonably access the thing? How curious

[raw jasper]

That’s… oddly specific

[lusty fossil]

It's a very annoying situation

And nobody wrote anything down

[honest moth]

I MIGHT HAVE DONE AN OOPSIE.

...scratch that, this ain't an oopsie, this is a RAM limitation.

i feel like if i press "cancel" now, the cpu will explode.

Context: I'm working with 8 GB's OF RAM to zip 89.6 GB's of data to send to a high-capacity HDD, and eventually to OneDrive.

[honest moth]

I hit 90 degrees

ok, i have to try cancelling this.

...crisis averted.

i don't care anymore, this data is staying in Storage_Locker-2 until I get a RAM upgrade, that should not have nearly killed my CPU!

[wooden schooner]

what were you doing? creating a zip copy of an external hard drive?

definitely not an expert, but I am not aware of any reason that zipping a huge directory should take a huge amount of memory - I would expect it to just take longer (the input stream is longer, but at any particular point while compressing the stream, the processing load should be the same regardless of stream position)

[raw jasper]

I think I'd like to make a telephone robot that makes wake-up calls to me

Something similar to the "wake-up call" service offered by ye olde POTS networks

[burnt tendon]

I mean, that's relatively simple to write if you want to script a service like Twilio, harder if you want to run more of it yourself.

[raw jasper]

Twillio costs a few cents per minute here. So, it could be a fun novelty to build

[lusty fossil]

I wonder if there's a pinnacle of human achievement, and if anyone can convince me it's not ramen

[stoic mesa]

cognac with a slice of lemon, of course

[lusty fossil]

Eh, not a drinker

[crystal ore]

Ramen versus pizza, hmmm... that's an epic battle in the making.

[lusty fossil]

There's no instant pizza

That's the clincher for me

Well, I just inhaled a pea from my instant ramen, so ramen has fallen in the rankings

[raw jasper]

https://www.tofugu.com/travel/momofuku-ando-instant-ramen-museum/

2200mg+ of sodium GO!

[lusty fossil]

Oooh yummy

[raw jasper]

The hall of sodium 🧂

[lusty fossil]

Sodium is second only to sugar in my list of true loves

[raw jasper]

(Confused blood pressure noises)

[lusty fossil]

I actually have the blood pressure of a particularly perky corpse

My midsection is where it's hurt me. Hence largely quitting sugar

Cutting down by 80+%

[raw jasper]

A particularly pesky corpse

I’m stealing that line, thank you very much

[lusty fossil]

Lol

*perky

How do you do the quote line?

[raw jasper]

>

[lusty fossil]

Ahhh nice

Thx

[shadow siren]

if your into MSG then perhaps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERVRjAYBOp0

[lusty fossil]

Yeah the MSG hate is basically just racism

No one got "sick" from Italian food

Despite being full of MSG

[shadow siren]

Apparently a good portion of Asians have a sense of taste we don't have.

[raw jasper]

MSG is fine, as long as you’re OK with the extra sodium 🙂

[raw jasper]

No, everyone has umami

[lusty fossil]

Indeed overall sodium should be watched

I think that was sarcasm

[raw jasper]

As long as you can taste fermented food, you have the taste

[lusty fossil]

I'm bad at telling tho

[shadow siren]

lol

[raw jasper]

I have a migraine. Sarcasm detector trmporarily out of service

[shadow siren]

I found out years ago a lot of my headaches was do to blood pressure, now that I have it more or less under control I rarely get a headache

[lusty fossil]

I get those too! Idk if you have midol specifically in Europe but you'll have some kind of pain reliever marketed for menstrual cramps. Works really well. It's basically caffeine and pain meds

[raw jasper]

I’d rather take my coffee with my paracetamol myself thank you very much 😛

[lusty fossil]

That works too

[shadow siren]

acetaminophen other wise known as Tylenol

[lusty fossil]

Yeah we have so many names for the same products

[raw jasper]

Yup! The generic name is Paracetamol in Europe though

[lusty fossil]

I know that from watching BBC shows

[shadow siren]

patents the bane of life

[lusty fossil]

Peep Show is among my favorites

[raw jasper]

Meh paracetamol is so old that it doesn’t have a patent anymore

Funnily enough it’s a pretty hepatotoxic substance too

I think that it would not be OTC if it were discovered now

[lusty fossil]

Yeah you're not supposed to take it too many days in a row

[shadow siren]

yes in Canada we tend to call it by the drug name not the brand, same with advil which is Ibuprofen

[raw jasper]

I… rarely remember the market name, even if it’s a single maker medicine

[shadow siren]

generics tend to call it by the drug name

[lusty fossil]

I mix and match, I usually call it by the brand name but recognize the active ingredient

[raw jasper]

Funnily enough the excipients can make a difference

So the generic medication can have different kinetics in the body

[lusty fossil]

That's why normal chantix was fine but the generic (recall of brand name) made me terribly ill

[shadow siren]

Lately I have been using Aleve, naproxwn sodium

works great for arthritis

[lusty fossil]

Worked though, I no longer use nicotine

*so far

[raw jasper]

That’s great!

[lusty fossil]

Yeah I don't recommend it to anyone. There are basically no benefits if you get hooked and no way to know if you can use it casually like a small number of people can

And it'll take over your life

[raw jasper]

Never could stand smoking so never picked it up

[lusty fossil]

And my insurance premiums are gonna go up from having used it

[lusty fossil]

"Just say no" doesn't work when you're 17 and the prettiest, coolest girl at school offers you a drag.

Unfortunately

Kids these days face vaping, I never had that to deal with

When I was that impressionable

Just awful stuff

[shadow siren]

I was to offbeat geeky to be asked to smoke which was a good thing

[lusty fossil]

Idk why I was offered, I wasn't that cool either

Don't smoke folks

It's bad bad bad

[shadow siren]

Breaking bad?

[lusty fossil]

Take it from someone who took years and years and years to stop

[crystal ore]

I saw an ad recently for a nose-snorting-vape thing. Thought it was like an SNL parody. 😅

[lusty fossil]

Not as good of camera work

[lusty fossil]

Dear gosh

[shadow siren]

well I need to go to bed I have a terrible LDAP issue to deal with tomorrow at work. I do hate SSL/TLS problems.

[lusty fossil]

Oof

I get to figure out a circuit I had no hand in designing.

It's like reading someone else's code: I avoid it where possible

But should probably get better at it

[lusty fossil]

Lol

Man every time I see a cinnamon roll, I curse my food allergies

[wooden schooner]

if you write code in a programming language whose paradigm the reader is ideologically opposed to, there is no way to measure quality. They will say the above exclamation instantly.

[wary herald]

IDK about that

[dusk oracle]

my teacher said my code read like a book until i started popping pointers off a stack.
he said from there a rabbit hole grew that Dorothy is still stuck in, regardless he passed me.

[raw jasper]

@lusty fossil https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIL7Q3QlVKc

[blissful roost]

Vaping is a parody.

[hard estuary]

Does the artist Bartlebeats still work at Adafruit? https://soundcloud.com/bartlebeats

[hasty wedge]

Raspberry Pi zero 2 w is so hard to get

[hasty wedge]

As an Eastern Asian I hate the taste of MSG for some reason

[raw jasper]

I've never tasted MSG

I mean, I have tasted tomatoes, so I know how glutamate tastes like :P, but I have no idea about its sodium salt

[lusty fossil]

Sesame seed bagels are society's best illustration of "no good things come free." They taste so good but then you're cleaning up sesame seeds all day

[lusty fossil]

Can anyone with an iPad Pro recommend a case/sleeve that will hold the apple pencil attached to the iPad? I lost my apple pencil because the magnet isn't quite strong enough and I want to avoid that

[raw jasper]

Is there any firefox addon I can use to block requests matching an arbitrary regex?

[unkempt nimbus]

I think a basic content blocker like uBlock Origin can handle it

[raw jasper]

Never mind, uBlock supports regex

IDK why I seem to remember that it did not

Thanks for making me look that up again!

[lusty fossil]

decided instead of Latvia for my next trip I'm going to go to botswana. Beyond excited

clincher was that they speak English in Botswana, but don't much in Latvia. Cost of the trip is roughly the same

[honest jolt]

i LoVe C 🤪

[late fulcrum]

Could be worse. Could be poppy seeds.

[lusty fossil]

true those are sneakier and can cause employment issues!

[fading hare]

Definitely not offended. I think it's a healthy discussion and something that we need to acknowledge and own instead of shuffling our feet and trying to kick it under the carpet. May not be entirely appropriate to continue in this particular channel, but I always welcome other people's opinions when it comes to religion and politics as long as said opinions do not include hate, persecution, force of will, indirect or direct.

[fading hare]

You put your data in Project No 2? Detention Site Violet? I heard it's for sale now. Prime real estate in Lithuania!

[fading hare]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

I mean, how many programming languages are you ideologically opposed to?

[blissful roost]

There should be none.

[wooden schooner]

I'm talking about things like showing Lisp to someone who has never seen it

[fading hare]

Lisp is amazing.

[blissful roost]

One could only be functionally opposed... ?

[fading hare]

I mean, I generally avoid Java and ASP.NET. For reasons.

[lusty fossil]

Whatever language the IBM computers used that were sold to Germany in the 30s. That language

[blissful roost]

I don't code and I'd rather avoid Java and ASP. 🤣

[fading hare]

100%

[wooden schooner]

many of my past colleagues considered stateful programming simpler than stateless programming, in general.

[blissful roost]

Weren't they using mechanical calculators?!?

[wooden schooner]

background and familiarity is a big factor

[fading hare]

Java and .NET: running a machine with 128 GB of RAM just so the garbage collector can stretch its legs, and still not DO A SINGLE THING ABOUT ALL THE RAM THAT IS BEING USED. All to serve a website I could deliver in PHP/Python for a fraction of the cost, and using an absolutely ridiculously low amount of resources in comparison, per request/sec.

[lusty fossil]

The numbers tattooed on prisoners were primary keys to am IBM database.

[blissful roost]

autocorrect hates me...

[lusty fossil]

IBM should have been prosecuted and dissolved for that

[blissful roost]

Yes

I'm not familiar with the tech they used, but.. point is valid.

[fading hare]

dang, I gotta read up on that, did not know this

[lusty fossil]

I'm 95% sure that's accurate, I could be wrong, but IBM made the whole thing possible

[blissful roost]

Accurate.

[lusty fossil]

Sorry to bring the mood down. Learned about it recently

[blissful roost]

I'll fix it....

[lusty fossil]

BUNBUN!

bun can do no wrong

[blissful roost]

Hehe

[lusty fossil]

My mom has birds, it's similarly gore-looking when they eat strawberries

[blissful roost]

My two won't touch them..

They both like dried banana chips, but Beau runs away from a fresh banana. 🤣

[lusty fossil]

All buns? Or birdies too?

[blissful roost]

Just the buns

[lusty fossil]

Ohh that's not your bun with the strawberry

I see now

[blissful roost]

Those are from Farcebook

[lusty fossil]

I ThINk YOu MeAn MeTA

[blissful roost]

I hAvE nO iDeA wHaT tHaT iS.

[wooden schooner]

the diminished reality company

[blissful roost]

🤣

[lusty fossil]

I've decided to visit Botswana 🇧🇼 when all the covid nonsense calms down

It's gorgeous and they speak English

So I can worry less about food allergies

And to my understanding it's modernizing/developing very fast

[fading hare]

And you'll be close to Zimbabwe, which is amazing.

[fading hare]

Don't forget to check this page before you travel: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Botswana.html

[lusty fossil]

I'm willing to take a moderate amount of risk.

[fading hare]

Also, unless you have professional/state security, be extremely careful if traveling through Johannesburg. It's actually not a safe place at all these days.

[lusty fossil]

Isn't that South Africa??

[fading hare]

yup

[lusty fossil]

I'm going north of it.

[fading hare]

depending on where you fly in through

[lusty fossil]

Ah ok I assume I'd just be in the airport

[fading hare]

the airport is still dangerous a place where you can lose all your stuff

[lusty fossil]

I want to check out the MechE and EE departments at universities in Botswana

[fading hare]

nice

[stoic mesa]

@fading hare Have you been to South Africa?

[fading hare]

I have not. My wife has.

[stoic mesa]

I wish I could visit Namibia some day... the photos of their deserts are gorgeous

[lusty fossil]

Ooh me too

I want to do sub Saharan, Saharan, and N Africa

[fading hare]

and she's also been to a bunch of other African countries... I think the wildest thing that ever happened to her was in Congo (I can't remember if it was one of the wars/whatever or if it was some other incident) but she arrived to her hotel late after some kind of long excursion, and didn't know that all other Americans had been evacuated. She ended up being smuggled out of Congo by the hotel staff in the trunk of a car. 😄

I'll ask her tomorrow. I think she's asleep now.

[fading hare]

I want to visit South Africa. I've heard that it hasn't been super safe since the riots and stuff. How accurate is that?

[stoic mesa]

no idea, unfor

[lusty fossil]

I've been interested in Africa for a while, deeply interested/enamored with since I read The Constant Gardener

Seriously recommend that book. Never saw the movie. Book is one of the best love stories I've ever read.

Mostly don't want to watch the movie because I don't want to change my mental images of the characters

[tardy badger]

Me: finds a great DC DC 3.3V buck
Manufacturer: “yeah, we’re discontinuing the product”

[hard estuary]

doh

[wary herald]

Yes. I appreciate your openness to this topic which needs to be confronted 🙂

[wary herald]

Meta's crazy hehe

Metaverse kinda cool NGL

Sounds kinda like Ron's Gone Wrong

[stoic mesa]

I recently found a buck converter from TI: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/DC-DC-Converters_Texas-Instruments-LV2842XLVDDCR_C225807.html
which doesn't seem to be even mentioned on TI site. I hope it is not a fake - LCSC usually is careful with that, and they have a TI-branded datasheet. Most likely, it is a product that has been discontinued by TI long ago...

[raw jasper]

TIL penguins have knees 🐧

I mean, all birds have knees, so from an evolutionary perspective it does make sense, but, judging by the way they walk, I had never imagined them having knees 😄

[tardy badger]

I’ve found this to be the case in some instances

[stoic mesa]

TI actually sells a newer buck which seems to be the replacement for these, but it costs much more and is not available anywhere :).

[wooden schooner]

TI is just passing the buck to third party vendors

[late fulcrum]

Then if the market goes to those third party vendors, TI just acquires them (I'm looking at you, Unitrode)

Reading up on it, Unitrode acquired Benchmarq, giving them a strong battery management portfolio, whereupon TI acquired Unitrode. Now I understand where some of that part numbering came from!

[hasty wedge]

Finally arrived!

Never seen a red version before

Close up

Similar to MSP430 ,it's using a way beefier MCU(Cortex-M0) as a debugger

And the best thing is that you can snap it off to use it with any nuvoton MCU, and the entire board is open source hardware

[hasty wedge]

YMCA!

(on a 43 cents 8051)

[hasty wedge]

Not sure if adafruit light ring can be a sunlight substitute

It's almost full spectrum so hopefully yes

[fading hare]

The topic itself does not need to be confronted. My openness has nothing to do with confrontation. Were you to ask me what I believe, you would get a far more honest, and searching answer, than you would from most people in this country. An answer lacking in conviction, riddled with guilt and the urge to just maybe, somehow honor those that came before me. I've mostly failed. In all aspects.

To the people in this country, it's all black or white. Red or blue. Donkey or elephant. Fake news or science. There's no in-between where we can meet on neutral ground, have a few pints and shoot the breeze. Everyone is entrenched. Lobbying grenades. And that's by design. People think that 1984 was just a novel. Nah. Brah. It was prophesy. But, then again, I'm probably preaching to the choir here. I still have faith in humanity. I still have faith that we can do this, but I must say, there's a lot of people going to Fuddruckers.

And no matter how much people turn their nose up, Idiocracy was a masterpiece of Social Criticism.

All you have to do is replace Terry Crews with Donald Trump.

[hasty wedge]

[tardy badger]

I have one general response to the blindsidedness of the US

https://tenor.com/view/what-confused-persian-room-cat-guardian-gif-11044457

I tend to fall more Libertarian but I’m definitely a lot more nuanced than a political ideology

https://tenor.com/view/super-complicated-complicated-complex-difficult-not-easy-gif-12296208

Anyway, that’s enough GIFs from me

scurries back into the underground

[dusty citrus]

There's a lot of I know you are but what am I reflection-logic being employed. ;)

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Open_mind

The (false) appeal to an Open Mind has become especially prominent (as is appropriating the other side's jargon, talking points &c. and inverting them .. as-if).

Here's another one:

https://www.critical-thinking.org.uk/appeal-to-an-open-mind

I think some of that obtains.

[tardy badger]

Ah yes

[tardy badger]

Charlie Brown voice actor Peter Robbins passed away

[fast sedge]

If these ever go on sale again, I am going to buy like 50. I'm kicking myself for only buying one when they were still in stock ages ago, before the proliferation of awesome Adafruit wi-fi boards 😢 https://www.adafruit.com/product/2935

[dusty citrus]

can't wait for adafruit to have miniature fusion reactors

[umbral phoenix]

@fast sedge same. also disappointed that PowerSwitchTail (https://www.adafruit.com/product/268) and PowerStateTail have been discontinued.

(PowerStateTail is an input relay, detecting mains AC current)

[dusty citrus]

company went out of business I think

[fast sedge]

oh 😦

[dusty citrus]

their corporate site domain is for sale

[fast sedge]

for Digital Loggers?

[thick wind]

Nah, PowerSwitchTail.com

[fast sedge]

Oh good lol. I'm still holding out hope for more of the IOT relays then 🤞

I already new about power switch tail 😦

[dusty citrus]

yeah the domain is for sale

went out of business somewhere between march 2020 and december 2020 according to wayback machine

302 between april and november then it switch to a domain for sale on december 2020

last live version that wasn't a domain sale: https://web.archive.org/web/20200320170417/http://www.powerswitchtail.com/

can't you guys make a device like it from the schematic in their datasheet?

[thick wind]

Probably? The hard part isn't making one, it's getting it certified...

[fast sedge]

I mean, someone probably could, not sure I personally could, at least not with current skills 😅

[thick wind]

If you had a relay that's up to spec, you could probably make one yourself...

[fast sedge]

🤔

[dusty citrus]

I thought PN 80136 was a patent number

but in the US 80136 is stuff from 1838 🤣

[thick wind]

Nah that's just a manufaturer part number.

[dusty citrus]

schematic

I tried to find a patent and follow the current owner so maybe another company bought it and made the same thing but with another name but had no luck

Seems like you can buy dangerous junk in a retail store without proper fire safety certification. The government has lost control over that. ;)

The market used to self-correct.

if you restore old electronics you'd be surprised what they used to certify

Yeah I don't even leave the room when some old tube gear is powered on. ;)

Or if I do I count one mississippi two mississippi as I walk to the other room to remind myself what I left unattended.

according to us customs records they bought it from BAJA ELECTRONICS TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD.

baja california ;)

nah powerswitchtail was in honolulu

"when we weren't runnin dune buggies we built these"

shrug I can't find a website for them but they last shipped on january 17 in the US so they still exist for sure

maybe they still have whatever that powerswitchtail rebranded

[fading hare]

Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, 2 months:
C6T23-72F9V-K7CCX-PC7R6-YFD9Z
First come...

[lusty fossil]

What did you do in the hour that discord was down?

[umbral phoenix]

Discord was down?

[lusty fossil]

Was for me

And downdetector showed it was for others

Must not have been universal

[dusty citrus]

yeah was universal

it was on the official discord status site

and therre were messages about it when trying to log in

[honest jolt]

https://discordstatus.com/

was pretty annoying

[lusty fossil]

Discord status showed all green when I checked

Don't you love when people misplace tools? Somehow we lost 2 12' saw horses

Saw heese?

[hard estuary]

12 foot sawhorses? Kind a big to get lost!

[lusty fossil]

Yeah we found them eventually

[hard estuary]

yay!

[fading hare]

I went into full panic mode. Checked my food storage, weapons caches, off-grid comm equipment, gassed up my generators, and ... I'm kidding. DON'T COME TO MY HOUSE WHEN THE WORLD ENDS.

I did notice it go down, however. Messages failed to send from my desktop, and my mobile client was borked as well.

[dusty citrus]

Was trying to find you guys line-of-sight to send smoke signals so we could continue chatting

[fading hare]

Quickly, calculate cloud cover, the position of the moon in relation to Jupiter, stick your tongue out to feel the ionosphere, and write up a whiteboard full of cryptic formulae and rub your HAM antenna for luck... Depress your transmit button...

[dusty citrus]

I'm not allowed to ham in my country 😦

And they are pretty extreme about it when you ham illegally

[fading hare]

WHAT. Where in the world are you, if you don't mind me asking?

[dusty citrus]

they will even involve the military with direction finder to find you

Canada

[fading hare]

😱

I had no idea.

What about LoRa?

[dusty citrus]

that is what always shocked me about ham in Canada, the ressources they will spend on finding someone use airwaves illegaly

you can't even import SDR without an end-game/top-end ham license

[fading hare]

wow

[dusty citrus]

the one that let you make your own ham

[fading hare]

I don't have any fancy equipment. Just a bunch of Baofengs.

[dusty citrus]

basically industry canada sell airwaves and really protect your right to use them

[fading hare]

that's wild

[dusty citrus]

they will spend even more energy if it's commercial airwave rather than ham

also since it's administrative law you can't appeal

I mean you can appeal for the criminal part

but not the administrative one since the judgment of the court used the hear administrative law from industry canada is final

[fading hare]

countries/states are so funny with what people make laws about... in some countries it's illegal to sell/wear animal fur... Canada... Hey, walk around with an entire family of beavers on your head whilst wearing the supple skin of baby seals on your hands

[dusty citrus]

those who can make their own radios also often have the gear to do triangulation and helps law enforcement

my best friend does ham and I've heard it live before

[fading hare]

oh, it's the same here... you transmit "illegally" and you'll have some HAM operator calling the cops at you... it's not a super-welcoming hobby...

[dusty citrus]

military I didn't actually see, these are rumors, saw a military truck with lot of antennas go around when it happened but I'm close to a military base and might just have been a coincidence 🤣

but the rcmp would certainly be able to get such equipment and try to find someone

I think this is a good source for my claims about our draconian laws in regard to baofeng: https://www.rapidsurvival.com/baofeng-radio-legality/

if you are interested

[fading hare]

huh, I'll check it out

[dusty citrus]

but the gist of it is that radio have to be pre-approved by industry canada to not be confiscated at the border

and they can't transmit on both commercial and ham radio waves

even if you have the appropriate license for both

and even for ham radio it require an advanced certification that involve knowing a lot of electronics

[fading hare]

Some of the HAM license levels here in the US are pretty math intensive and requires a lot of knowledge about fields and stuff my poor Swede brain can't grok.

[dusty citrus]

best part of it is they don't even provide books for the certs, they are usually provided by other ham radio operators

and you have to be able to type X words of morse per minute

and know the phonetic alphabet

[fading hare]

But I have some learning problems when it comes to written documentation and similar. So, maybe if I found some kind of practical training exercises for calculating stuff, I could train my brain.

I know the phonetic alphabet. At least the NATO one.

[dusty citrus]

BUT!

If there is an actual emergency and you could only use a ham radio to get help

they don't care about your ham radio license

[fading hare]

I know, same here.

[dusty citrus]

but expect fines etc if it's fake

we also have general provisisons in canada in the criminal code about breaking the law if there is a general emergency and not breaking it would threaten the life of a lot of peoples

or there was last I looked

so if there was a flood and they didn't send anyone to help and peoples looted store for medical kits and boats they'd probably mostly get away with it

[fading hare]

But. Officer, I really do urgently need an 80 inch OLED in my dinghy. My passengers are getting restless.

[dusty citrus]

well they often use the reasonable person standard

and no if never worked for stealing food because one is hungry 😄

and also we send the military when there are such emergency

[fading hare]

Well. Any reasonable looter would obviously need a big screen TV. That's always what people go for first. I have no idea why. It's really hard to hide. It's heavy. Why? 😄

[dusty citrus]

mostly because most of canada is hard to reach by road or isolated and police typically doesn't have the gear to get there

[fading hare]

Yeah, there are some pretty insane logistical hurdles in Canada.

[dusty citrus]

I don't have a source for this/would be hard to find because I don't know french enough to read court cases

[fading hare]

Wanna get this family some help? Yeah, we're gonna hafta fly a bush plane over 400 miles and land on a teacup in a lake. No sweat.

[dusty citrus]

but when there was a huge snowstorm that plunged a huge city of quebec in the dark for several weeks/months

some peoples stole generators from abandonned stores and gave them back when it was over and afaik they got away with it and those who didn't because they had damaged it etc had to pay small fines or do community service without criminal records

and they fined store that charged 10x the price for emergency stuff like food, gas etc

[fading hare]

I watched some documentaries and one series of murder investigations in Alaska, and it's wild how many unsolved murders they have per year.

I actually heard about the generators being stolen. Can't remember if it was Canada or Texas. Maybe both?

[dusty citrus]

well it probably happen a lot but in that case it was in middle of a siberian winter

and since they gave it back basically auto-incriminating themselves and the obvious emergency pretty sure the DA didn't even pursue it

[fading hare]

Yeah, the snow storm in Texas was wild because all the different "independent" power companies they have there did not adhere to their SLAs and just left people without power... so as far as I am concerned, Texas can secede and rejoin Mexico. 😄 Just kidding. I like Texas.

But, yeah. The one feature of Texas that was lauded as one of their strongest features: their strongly independent, and self-sufficient power companies... failed hard.

I remember seeing all these ads a while back for Texas and the power industry there... Can't remember what it was related to, but yeah, it was a big selling point to get people to move there.

I've got a few friends in Texas and they were all like "yeah, this is super ironic"

[dusty citrus]

in canada we mostly have govt power companies

not sure it's better but the US north fund a huge part of them and their dividends 😄

[fading hare]

haha

[dusty citrus]

because they have private power companies too and they signed contracts to get enough power in case all else fails

canada is also a huge producer of diamonds, gold, uranium and oil (when the price is high enough)

stuff that americans tends to like 😄

[fading hare]

I think in general state-owned/regulated/controlled utility companies are better than independent companies.

[dusty citrus]

we tend to export raw materials to the US and import finished goods from the US

some goods go both way because the area of the US and canada is huge and some place don't produce gold and need it from the US and so on

[fading hare]

Oh, speaking of radio, this article caused a tiny, tiny 18-wheeler loaded with intense interest to run over my foot...
https://hackaday.com/2015/02/02/get-serious-with-amateur-radio-design-build-a-single-sideband-transceiver-from-scratch-part-1/

[dusty citrus]

oh didn't I mention about the airwaves that different parts of the govt like fighting each other ?

like if you are a pilot you are license to operate an aircraft radio and it doesn't say you can't operate it on the ground going against industry canada rules

same if you are a ship pilot

different part of the govt, so it's not clear cut

like if you are an airline pilot drone laws are completely different

because you are allowed to fill NOTAMs and operated in airspaces that aren't allowed for drones and they consider drones as a kind of aircraft

it's a big puzzle 🤣

also if the drone is under 250g it's a toy but you are still bound by airspace laws like you can't throw stuff in the air that endanger aircraft, please 🤣

I live next to a police station so personally I don't take chances even with a toy 😦

I'm not sure they know the finer points of these things

and since the words in that law are so generic they might just say that I'm endangering an aircraft

[fading hare]

Meanwhile in the US: kids are using high-powered lasers to blind jet pilots.

[fading hare]

Discord on my phone is stuck in some kind of cache limbo. the #help-with-3dprinting shows content from like an hour ago, but none of the more recent messages.

[hasty wedge]

[hasty wedge]

Nah, I was just talking about the lack of attention to 8051 MCUs and nobody seems to care

[umbral phoenix]

8051 were the first mcus I touched, UV erasing, have a couple around somewhere

[hasty wedge]

I am working on a module that I can use it to add speech clips to my other projects

and it's using a 8051 MCU

[hasty wedge]

omg! UV erased MCU!

that's why I never dare to peel off stickers on microcontrollers

[umbral phoenix]

8751 vs. Adafruit Feather ESP32-S2 TFT

[lusty fossil]

Ooof

That avg gate size

[hasty wedge]

wow, genuine intel

when 8051 takes 12 ticks instead of 1 tick to execute an instruction

[blissful roost]

Certainly more genuine than my Russian 8086. 🤣

[hasty wedge]

The reason why I am still using 8051 in 2022

is because they're still readily available in this chip crisis

[raw jasper]

Oh really!

[wooden schooner]

Clearly they've also got a very sophisticated pipelining architecture

[raw jasper]

Hahaha I guess they are the staple food of the electronics world

https://mobile.twitter.com/foone/status/1332441980266110977

foone (@Foone)

USB is a standard to let you connect 8051 microcontrollers to PCs

Likes

536

Twitter · Nov 27, 2020, 9:51 PM

[round dagger]

is it bad that I don't want to use the KB2040 I just got in a project I just want to keep it as a bread board dev board? I love it too much to slap it in a build its my first Adafruit board I got from Adafruit. idk what would you do in my shoes. I cant decide.

[hasty wedge]

If you love it

buy more

and slap all of them on your projects

[round dagger]

LMFAO!!!!

[hasty wedge]

make your projects extra awesome

RP2040 is the best

[round dagger]

i love it lol

i have 4 pico's but this is the only KB2040 its PUURPLE!!! so lovely.

[hasty wedge]

however, due to the issue that RP2040 halts everything(including PWM) when doing SPI communication

the speech playback actually sounded better on MS51FB9AE than RP2040

but I believe mine is probably an edge case here

[round dagger]

so esp32 for audio?

[hasty wedge]

if you wish to use circuitpython then yes

I am using a 8051 here because I can program it, and it's the only thing that I can buy bulk nowadays

[round dagger]

what about the 8266 will that work for file play back from an sd card. i want to make a door notifyer for in and out traffic in the house making a sound when the door opens.

[hasty wedge]

yes if you don't need UART

and you'll need Arduino to develop it

no CircuitPython

[round dagger]

ill need wifi for logging, arduino IDE was my first programing software i still like it and C.P.

[hasty wedge]

that's great

I am not a 8051 pro

[round dagger]

i do not like the new ide 2.0 its super buggie

[hasty wedge]

the fact that I am using it easily because oh my god Nuvoton's open source SDK is easy to use

you're basically speaking English

[round dagger]

yep lol thats clear text

[raw jasper]

Heh, I thought that to use 8051 you had to use open watcom or some similarly necromantic toolchain 🙂

Yup, looks easy to use alright

[hasty wedge]

you can use ARM Keil or SDCC

SDCC is a pretty nice toolchain that's actively maintained and used by some impressive projects (like the Gameboy Development Kit)

[raw jasper]

GBDK is still a thing?!

[hasty wedge]

And ARM Keil is the most industrially accepted toolchain

[hasty wedge]

GBDK2020

[raw jasper]

o_O TIL!

[hasty wedge]

still updating

[raw jasper]

Thanks for the link, learned something new today

[wooden schooner]

run-on sentence tho

[raw jasper]

Was reading about the "Mega Duck" --- Apparently, it was an original console designed in Hong Kong!

Some of its games were later ported to the GameBoy and released in unlicensed form

It used a Z80, so I can't imagine it being too hard

[hasty wedge]

In honest

These Taiwanese chip designers basically achieved AVR's functionality with 8051

While keeping it fast, simple, and modern

I heard that a company called STC(not to be confused with STM) just released a line up of 32-bits 8051 MCUs

[dusty citrus]

you'd think by now intel would be more open and would let us use 80386 microcontrollers

[hasty wedge]

Intel will never open source it's x86 line up

It's not smart to open source such thing that you're relying to make profits

[dusty citrus]

I mean why we have 30mhz microcontroller when 30 yo pentium can do 800mhz ?

😦

[hasty wedge]

How about power consumption

[dusty citrus]

they surely can make them much smaller than originally

[hasty wedge]

Intel Atom

[dusty citrus]

when I whine about using obsolete electronics on arduino this is exactly when I mean 😦

[hasty wedge]

But they're still relatively new

[dusty citrus]

using dip chips from the 1970s nobody use profesionnaly they use surface mounts

and cpu with 1980s speed...

[hasty wedge]

Then stop whining and use RP2040

easy 400Mhz

You even get 2 cores

[dusty citrus]

how does rp2040 helps with surface mount though? 🤣

[hasty wedge]

Raspberry Pi Pico

It's a perfect DIP-40

[dusty citrus]

bah sounds like we talk of two different things

I was talking about microcontrollers and you talk about computers lke the pi rp2040

that can't do analog or real-time..

What I meant is somerthing like the teensy 4.1 a beefy microcontroller

[hasty wedge]

Somebody said that RP2040 isn't a microcontroller

[dusty citrus]

if it doesn't do analog it's not a microcontroller

they interface with analog circuits

[hasty wedge]

Does 8051 do analog?

How about TMS1000

[dusty citrus]

https://www.digikey.ca/catalog/en/partgroup/89lp/20388 ? is that the 8051 you mean ?

[hasty wedge]

Yeah, it's a modern 8051

[dusty citrus]

it's not the cpu that determines analog

it's the rest

[hasty wedge]

Alright

[dusty citrus]

rapsberry pi never had analog inputs as any of their stuff

[hasty wedge]

Is 80C51 a microcontroller?

It's pure digital

How about non-A STC microcontrollers

They don't have analog components

[dusty citrus]

ah nvm Lost you somewhere when I mentionned analog and I realize you don't seem to know the differences

just nvm

[hasty wedge]

All of these I mentioned doesn't have ADC

Yet they re microcontrollers

[dusty citrus]

arduno don't have adc on their chip either

it's another part that dooes it

[hasty wedge]

Somebody said arduno don't have adc on their chip either

[fading hare]

hands out pool noodles for a duel to the giggles and settles in with a big bucket of popcorn

[hasty wedge]

He's trying to overturn all my microcontroller knowledge

I just wanna see how chaotic it can go

[dusty citrus]

Everytime I mention I do electronics to peoples they say to buy a pi to replace my arduino as if it's a replacement

getting a bit tired of it

[hasty wedge]

Anyway

Wanna see how does the maker world reacts to STC's 32-bits 8051 MCU

[dusty citrus]

it did raise interesting questions though so I can understand how it's different better

[raw jasper]

@hasty wedge https://www.generalplus.com/pLVfLN898SVpfSNnormal_download thought you might find this interesting

[hasty wedge]

Oh generalplus!

https://www.adafruit.com/product/1068

[raw jasper]

Yup, strange SoC, own instruction set, SNES-like PPU, what’s not to love?

[hasty wedge]

This thing is using a generalplus's 16 bit OTP voice controller

[raw jasper]

Sometimes I feel like getting some dev board and making the weirdest video game console with it

[hasty wedge]

The general plus MCU on Makey Makey is OTP

Meaning it's one time programmable

So don't buy it if you wanna develop it

[raw jasper]

The one I linked you to takes external mask ROM

Take a look, it’s a really fun data sheet

GPL16258VB

[hasty wedge]

Unsp ISA

Developed by Sunplus

凌阳科技

[raw jasper]

Correct 🙂

[hasty wedge]

the same company that made the first generation furby's controller

[raw jasper]

Oh, my hanja is not up to it

[raw jasper]

I’m sorry, I thought Hanja was how 漢字 is read in Chinese

Apparently it’s Korean

[hasty wedge]

[raw jasper]

Bad faux pass

(Only know some Japanese, it shows 🤣)

[hasty wedge]

It's probably pretty hard to get hold on one of their ICE

Nuvoton is a more accessible Taiwanese chip maker(nuvoton is an IDM, They own fabs!)

They also open sourced most of their development hardwares

And almost all of their software

It's also pretty common to see their logo on high end gaming motherboards, they produce high performance PC IO controllers

[fading hare]

@thick wind In regards to the discussion we had in the #help-with-3dprinting channel... I can attest to the awesome products that AC Infinity makes. About 4 years ago we installed an AC Infinity exhaust fan (with control panel and temp sensor) in our media cabinet to help our Xbox One X Scorpio Edition breathe better. It's been running basically non-stop since then. No issues. Other than that one time a cat accidentally stepped on the control panel and turned off the fan while I was playing Assassin's Creed Origins in 4K and my Xbox almost died because it was 130'F inside the cabinet. 😅

Since then, I have strategically placed a few metal "sculptures" around the control panel. Basically giant cat caltrops.

So I am hoping that the products that I linked are going to be as great as what I have experienced with their other products.

[raw jasper]

You are probably right

If I remember correctly, weren’t their ICs also used in those “baby’s first video game console” products?

[hasty wedge]

Yup

[raw jasper]

Yeah, it makes sense… They even have a handheld video game console in their AN

[hasty wedge]

They're just way too cheap

[raw jasper]

nods And they have hardware ppu, ntsc generator and stuff

[hasty wedge]

I won't be surprised if they also have a secret line up of Nintendo on a chip ASICs

[raw jasper]

Neither would I 🤣

Speaking of 、Do you know of the BBG keyboard famiclones?

They even had a floppy disk and a variant of DOS for the 6502

https://helloacm.com/set-up-8-bit-ultimate-famicom-game-console-bbg-bbk-with-keyboard-and-floppy-drive-usb-floppy-emulator-nes-game-console/amp/

[hasty wedge]

Oh wow

[raw jasper]

Yeah, that seems like the correct response to this machine 🤣

[lusty fossil]

What is it about doing situps that makes your dog want to clamber on top of you

[crystal ore]

Heh heh, that sort of exercise probably looks like you're having a seizure or something, and just he wants to help save you...

[lusty fossil]

She but no she just wants prime access for face licks

[crystal ore]

Heh heh, naturally...

[lusty fossil]

Maybe it's because I so rarely get on her level

[dusty citrus]

I was wrong, rp2040 is a microcontroller, I thought any microcontroller chip could be turned into analog and/or digital if it had physical gpio port on it didn<t know microcontroller actually had to support it in their spec.

neither did I know that raspberry made a product that wasn't like a 2 or 3. My apologies

[hoary loom]

When a software update to your point of sale system removes the choice of a receipt... You solve it with hardware... From the hardware store... #hacktheplanet

[thick wind]

I’m sure they make fantastic products, but do keep in mind that in the context of 3d printers, there is such a thing as too much airflow…

[fading hare]

So I should make sure to get PWM fans.

[raw jasper]

I have never used a 3D printer! Could you explain why having too much airflow would be a problem?

[dusty citrus]

It's ok I'm in a nordic country so I just open my balony door 1mm with a fan and blow -45oF air in it 😄

works great for a PC too

electronics works better with superconductivity anyway 😄

[thick wind]

In an FDM printer, too much airflow mostly just messes with your temperatures. The nozzle is close enough to the print that usually it prints exactly where it positions, but in extreme cases you can get distortions due to overcooling the print.

In a resin printer, you risk disturbing the surface of the resin, which can negatively impact printing precision. Agitating the resin is an easy way to mess with the optics and distort fine details on the print.

[raw jasper]

Thanks for the info! 🙂

[thick wind]

Well, some kind of control would definitely be a plus.

[lusty fossil]

I cringe every time I see someone blowing leaves without a respirator or at least a mask. Valley fever is everwhere

At my work the maintenance folks basically get 5 months of PTO if they catch it but that's not worth it to me, personally

[dusty citrus]

I don't understand why laws on radio waves are so draconian yet on the same govt site as these laws they list every isotopes that exists and the quantity you can import/possess without a license in radiation per gram

[thick wind]

Regulation of radio communications is primarily there to prevent people from interfering with existing channels. A comparison would be why we have traffic laws to define how we operate cars on the road; the rules exist to maintain order when there are so many other cars on the road.

As for radioactive isotopes, it's probably a matter of keeping radioactive emissions to human-safe levels, since not all radiation is necessarily harmful...?

[tardy badger]

Only ionizing radiation 😄

[dusty citrus]

all the isotopes were there though even plutonium and radium and neptunium

I mean, nobody should have centrifuges in their home so they can even get plutonium and neptunium...

I mean for me it's like if they told me I may not possess or import more than one picogram of antimatter

I don't even know how to measure that or how to see it and I'm pretty sure nobody can produce anywhere near that quantity

[dusty citrus]

turn out the morse code requirement was lowered to 5 word per minute to every ham licenses

meanwhile I can't even speak 5 words per minute in Spanish

[lusty fossil]

just love when a company gets back to you and ignores your inquiry and instead gives you a quote. I am trying to figure out if I need to source the exact fuse part number for my meter. I asked them about it since the only ones I can find from trustworthy sellers have a slightly different part number. They responded with a quote for fuses but didn't specify the part number!

I know basically every company outsources customer service to the lowest bidder but this is really annoying.

[dusty citrus]

I doubt a human answered

was probably a salesbot

[lusty fossil]

Could be

Maybe I should call them

[dusty citrus]

with keywords etc like game companies do

[lusty fossil]

that's a good idea

[dusty citrus]

"Your call is important for us, watch as our actions don't match our words"

And then during waiting you need to email the company how to tell who your heirs are since you have waited for so long

"My grandkid XYZ will take over waiting for an answer if that's ok for you"

[lusty fossil]

wow so it's just this one customer care rep that is no good

called and they sorted it out over the phone right away

[dusty citrus]

told you it was a bot 🤣

[lusty fossil]

I blew my fuse after business hours yesterday so had to rely on email

[static flare]

Gods I want an oscilloscope so badly

[lusty fossil]

Is there a college or university near you? Maybe even certain trade schools. They often have surplus departments. That's how I got mine. It was like 20 bucks. It's not amazing but it works

[fair summit]

also consider whether you want a scope or a logic analyzer. I use a Saleae much more than a scope

[lusty fossil]

Probes are the expensive part IME

Because don't want to rely on school surplus probes, students abuse those

[tardy badger]

https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub/vincenzo-g/diy-logic-analyzer-f61ee5

I found this a while back and have been planning on doing this

In a permanent dedicated PCB

[fair summit]

https://sigrok.org/wiki/Supported_hardware#Logic_analyzers

lotsa discussion in https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/

[lusty fossil]

Eevblog is great

[fading hare]

wait, what's that?

[lusty fossil]

Caused by a fungus. You're sick for months

Mildly ill for like half a year

It's rare to get it unless you're doing a ton ton ton of sweeping or are blowing leaves all the time. Leaf blowing is IIRC the most common way of getting it

[fading hare]

How do you know if you have it?

[lusty fossil]

I think you feel terrible and go to the doctor and get a test based on a differential diagnosis

E.g. might be suspected more strongly if your "flu" or flu like symptoms don't improve in a few weeks

[fading hare]

The fungus is known to live in the soil in the southwestern United States and parts of Mexico and Central and South America.

[lusty fossil]

It's not a concern unless you're around a lot of dust from soil

[fading hare]

So, I am probably safe.

[lusty fossil]

Yeah

I should have mentioned It's regional

[fading hare]

I just blew about a bazillion leaves a while back with my new cordless blower. This thing is a beast.

And, I was not wearing a mask.

[lusty fossil]

I have a leaf vacuum

It's only like 50% less dusty than sweeping the leaves up but it's 80% easier

[fading hare]

That's like going to a pyromaniacs' party and saying you've got a fire extinguisher.

[lusty fossil]

Lol

It's pretty sweet, only like 100 bucks at home despot

[fading hare]

I am sure it's nice. It's just not as cool as blowing giant mounds of leaves around.

[lusty fossil]

I don't have that many leaves to deal with. Enough that sweeping is a pain. Also using a leaf blower would just be blowing leaves into other ppls apartment spaces

[fading hare]

Kick it into turbo and the 12 Ah battery lasts for like 10 minutes. 😄

[lusty fossil]

Wowza, quite the motor

Does it get hot?

At work the maintenance folks use gas ones

So a respirator is especially useful

[fading hare]

It does get a bit warm.

[lusty fossil]

Although I think CA is banning gas powered ones?

[fading hare]

But, unlike weird people I only blow leaves when it is dry outside.

[lusty fossil]

Idk if it's sale of new ones or an outright ban

[fading hare]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-125-MPH-600-CFM-FLEXVOLT-60V-MAX-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Axial-Blower-Tool-Only-DCBL772B/310385238

that's the one we have

I love the FlexVolt series. Nothing like going YOLO and slapping a 12 Ah battery on your impact driver. 😄

[lusty fossil]

Yeah we have people blowing for hours and hours so gas makes sense. We'll have to come up with a battery regimen if we have to switch to all battery

[fading hare]

Well. I used it for about an hour on a lower setting. I had to walk around a bit more, and couldn't juggle really large piles. Upside: I also did not create massive clouds of dust.

[lusty fossil]

Dust is no fun

Unless you're playing Endless Legend

[fading hare]

it is not something I enjoy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Endless Legend. Wait, which game is that again?

[lusty fossil]

It's a tile based civ strategy game

[fading hare]

Huh. OK.

[lusty fossil]

It's fun

Endless Space 2 was fun until they nerfed a travel exploit

Now games take a million years

And it's no fun to play

[hasty wedge]

Ported my 8051 audio playback code to MSP430

The signal is a bit noisy probably due to low clock rate

But I'll solve it

Now my audio playback code is bitness complete

8 bit: AVR(original arduino code), 8051, Padauk
16 bit: MSP430
32 bit: RP2040, STM32F0
64 bit: windows(C#) xd

I'll say MSP430's code is really compact

600b for a playback software

It took 1.5kb on 8051

[raw jasper]

This definitely caught me by surprise; I would have expected the RISC code to take up more space!

[hasty wedge]

Or maybe it's just more optimised compiler

TI definitely know what they're doing with their own chip

[crystal ore]

The 8051 is pretty register-limited, I think, so even simple things take a lot of instructions.

[raw jasper]

oh, only 8 general purpose registers

Yeah, that... makes sense 😄

[static flare]

Not near me, unless they're suddenly teaching requisite courses at primary schools

[static flare]

Hmm that might actually be preferable but like, I only ever see oscilloscopes for sale

I eat my words immediately after (responding as i scroll

[static flare]

Sounds interesting, I winder what's required (will look into it)

[fair summit]

The Saleae's have gotten more expensive, though you can get a discount as a hobbyist. The software has a lot to do with the usability of these. I have not used sigrok, only the Saleae software (Logic), which I like

[raw jasper]

Now, all you need to do is make it architecture-complete by porting it to a MAXQ MCU (TTA architecture)

[honest jolt]

i got a usb logic analyzer on sparkfun through amazon reseller and it's been working great (except that you need a computer with it)
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/18627
pulseview (open source "signal analysis software suit") is also easy to use, even for a beginner like me 😄

[tardy badger]

An Arduino and a special program

https://processing.org/download

[raw jasper]

Though cheap, I do not think this combo going to have a practical sampling rate 🙂

[static flare]

ooh processing!

[raw jasper]

Yeah, the art project language-du-jour 🙂

[static flare]

it would have the sampling rate of an Arduino at best

[raw jasper]

Which could be great for debugging Arduino circuits! 😄

[tardy badger]

You can do CAN bus

[hasty wedge]

Is that a Saleae Logic analyser?

Shame to Sparkfun for making clones by them self

[fair summit]

that is a standard clone, nothing special

[honest jolt]

the device used is a fx2lafw (generic driver for FX2 based LAs) so i'm pretty sure no...

[fair summit]

The low-end Saleae's were very standard, it was their software that was what set them apart, if i understand correctly. people were using Saleae software with clones. i have a fancier Saleae

[hasty wedge]

Oh

So it's fine if you use sigrok?

[fair summit]

there is some standard Cypress chip a lot of them used

[hasty wedge]

TIL!

[hasty wedge]

CY7C68013

A 8051 based USB controller

[fair summit]

it's fine, but the sampling frequency is not that high (24 MHz is somewhat low sometimes for what I need)

[raw jasper]

USB is just a protocol for 8051s to talk to one another 😄

(stolen joke)

[obtuse bronze]

Just checking my Discord login name

[hasty wedge]

Franklin

I only ordered from sparkfun 3 times

[obtuse bronze]

Thanks, have two logins and Discord made it Difficult to switch. That's what I expected

[hasty wedge]

Two times for my course material

And the last time I ordered their micromod rp2040

And it's not playing nice with CircuitPython

Decided to never buy stuff from them

[obtuse bronze]

You should try Adafruit. (no pressure)

[hasty wedge]

Adafruit devices never failed on me

For the same price (some times lower)

You get a better learning guide

And ENIG PCB!

Danh remember that circuit Python showing up read-only and corrupted on my Linux computer?

You suggested me to format the flash and that was the only solution

That was on a micromod

[fading hare]

which Saleae do you have? I have the logic 8

[fair summit]

logic pro 8

it was a LOT less expensive when i got it a few years ago

[wary herald]

I agree. Thanks!!

[fair summit]

that may be a windows problem, not necessarily micromod

[fading hare]

yikes, yeah... I think I got mine with a discount though... I only paid like $300 I think...

Since I don't work with this stuff professionally... just a hobby. Says the "hobbyist" with a logic analyzer.

[umbral phoenix]

hopefully later this year I can merge my office and "lab" and have space for fun stuff like that

lab is currently a desk in a small, poorly ventilated room with utilities, not the best for soldering

[fading hare]

I totally get you. We have a 1250 sq.ft. house. 3 bed rooms and basically a living room / kitchen area. My stepson and his best friend used to live with us. Just thinking about it makes me feel like Agent Smith.

[hasty wedge]

just found out my winbond SPI flash

can operate without connecting GND

[fading hare]

But, since they moved out, wife and I now have separate offices. My office consists of a decent powered adjustable desk and a good office chair, then a massive bookshelf along the back wall (storage shelf Bror from IKEA) that contain mostly TTRPG stuff, vinyl, comms equipment, and stuff, lots of stuff. The other wall is broken up by a window so there's a little alcove that I managed to fit a Bror workbench in, and then against the wall with the window is a massive desk with steel legs and butcher's block top where I mostly work on electronics and electrical stuff.

I am fairly certain that I am going to have to get an electrician in here and pull thicker cables to this room and beef up the fuses, because there's a lot of electricity happening.

Oh, and I almost forgot. The counter top is Baltic birch. With the lumber shortage, it's probably worth more than Bitcoin. HAHAHAH

This office is basically everything I would have dreamed of as a kid.

[static flare]

just installed some shelving in my room!

[fading hare]

Yay!

[fading hare]

I built this white, metal shelving unit inside my closet. 😄 It's holding up five gallon buckets with... stuff.

wow, that's some cool stuff

[static flare]

I have a lot more, that's just what I can unpack

Hoping to one day fill the wall (off to the left) with shelves like this, the whole garage style is really useful for me

need to find like, all of my electronics stuff

i also should move the mixer, I don't use it

[hasty wedge]

[blissful roost]

I really should just buy some solder... 😐

[static flare]

wanna find my RP4B

[lusty fossil]

My favorite part of the day is hearing the THUNK sound of my dog leaping off my bed as soon as she hears the door open.

[static flare]

i found my soldering iron!

[shadow siren]

How can one misplace a soldering iron

[lusty fossil]

Maybe the smol pen kind?

[shadow siren]

ahh

[fading hare]

I "misplaced" my soldering iron last weekend. I found it again. On my left index finger. It was there maybe 0.5 seconds and just vaporized a 15 mm long and 3-4 mm deep canyon of flesh.

It's still healing. Slowly. I hate being old.

[shadow siren]

ahh feels like when I was a kid with my first pencil and burning my hands multiple times as I got used to using a soldering pencil

[fading hare]

this was slightly worse than those types of burns... I was trying to stabilize a cable, and solder one of the wires to a DIN connector... DIN connector fell out of my "helping hands" and I tried to catch it. Smart move, Swede. Yeah, no, soldering iron ended up falling down with the broadside of the heater pipe right on my index finger. It just completely destroyed my skin and flesh.

[shadow siren]

ouch

I burned my for finger with the cleaning rod for my desoldering gun last week

[fading hare]

ouch

I hope you unloaded the desoldering gun before you racked the slide 😉

keep your finger off of the trigger

😉

[shadow siren]

I was poking the cleaning rod into the tube, I dropped it and picked it up but not by the little handle on the end

I was having sucking issues but since then I replaced the desoldering station with a newer one that works a lot better and has better sucking power

[static flare]

Moving

I packed it up and with every box being identical and unlabelled, it's a bit difficult to find anything

[lusty fossil]

Oof got cocky, tried to do pull-ups, turns out I have no upper body strength. I'll have to find easier exercises to do to work up to pullups

[fading hare]

I only go places where I specifically do not have to pull myself up out of anything. Or run.

[crystal ore]

I've made some progress doing inclined pull-ups, like a reverse push-up.

[fading hare]

I just randomly went down a rabbit hole of trying to find out a little bit more about someone on this server and ended up with Google Maps pictures of their actual house. The internet is scary.

[lusty fossil]

I'm trying to get rid of some belly fat that magically appeared when I turned 30, and generally get into a better physical shape. I'm not going for like Rob from It's Always Sunny results (because I don't want to take steroids, for one), but I'd like more muscle.

I'm of mixed feelings about Rob. He's been super open that his results are only realistic if you have tons of resources, but he hasn't been as open about the shortcuts he took. Maybe he doesn't want to encourage others to take steroids but it's not exactly a secret that he did so the cat's out of the bag there.

I personally don't believe there's a safe way to do steroids, so I think it's a bit irresponsible for a public figure to use them.

[fading hare]

Rob who?

[static flare]

👀

[lusty fossil]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_McElhenney

[fading hare]

aah

[fading hare]

not you

[lusty fossil]

He's done some really interesting stuff with his body to make fodder for writing Sunny

[fading hare]

Just got cold-called via LinkedIn.