general-chat

[dusk oracle]

they even knock down a DNS and have fake Nvidia and Amd websites

some of it is beyond my skill to investigate

[raw jasper]

And you got infected through the official installer, right?

[dusk oracle]

all i know is it keeps happening and i'm not the only one

[dusk oracle]

yes

[raw jasper]

Supply chain attacks are the worst

Not much you can do if you trust the source

[dusk oracle]

they exploit discord and geforce updater

that... geforce experience app

that thing gets told you have a update, and then pulls a garbage installer

it's upsetting because they keep pulling it off and it gets sneakier

and most people are so oblivious they hardly see the signs untill windows update is manually triggered

[raw jasper]

Do you have a link with more info?

[dusk oracle]

no i have personal experience shared with gamers that confirmed my findings

then i found articles with similar problems

and there is always a pattern

they want data on what players do

even when the game closes

that way they can know what to make to sell

and you cannot question them... they just say you are harassing them

and bam.. you lose

[blissful roost]

I don't understand... There's zero "threats" on that list.

Ohh.. I misspoke..
Playing Fortnite is a threat to one's social standing.

[dusk oracle]

denial

[blissful roost]

A river in Egypt.

[tardy badger]

The funny thing is there is a lot of errors in the email which indicates it was likely a fake/phishing attempt

[dusk oracle]

true, i doubt that makes it right.

[blissful roost]

A fact is always correct.
Fortnite will damage your status. 🤣

[tardy badger]

How long does that take? A fort night?

😜

[blissful roost]

Huuuurr

Dunno.. a week or two?

[fast sedge]

All morning long, for no discernible reason, I have been singing 🎵 "The Circuit Python Parsnip" 🎵

Anyway happy Friday y'all

[hasty wedge]

there's no way to disable the green LED on the attiny seesaw board right?

unless I remove the LED resistor

[stray wind]

Not that I'm aware of. Some boards have a jumper, but I don't see one on that board. If it's not mentioned in the guide, then it's not possible without surgery.

[hasty wedge]

alright

it's surgery time then

[fast sedge]

I always want to turn off these LEDs in breakouts too lol

[stray wind]

There's a number of them lately with power LED jumpers. But not all.

[fast sedge]

I would love to see more, but I understand why that can be something that is just not a priority. I suspect that I'll just have to get better at disabling them without causing damage to the breakouts.

[stray wind]

It's probably also that they don't always fit. But that would be a skill worth having for the rest, for sure.

[burnt tendon]

Yeah, as someone who uses his boards to do lightpaintings, power LEDs are a prooooblem.

[late fulcrum]

I remember the various times that MICROS~1's servers got hacked, to the point that they released physical CDs with malware already on them.

[stoic mesa]

wow... I didn't know it got that far.

[dusk oracle]

@stoic mesa lets put it this way you can create a artificial 3d character, animate it using just some prerecorded video, we have AI that can have full in context conversations, we have microcontrollers that can do just about anything, there is code written by AI.. i doubt breaking anyone's system security is even a issue at all, information is power and people abuse anything they can as quickly as they can to get a upper hand, the fallout of it all is hardly even a issue to them, they don't care who gets hurt or how much time was wasted on a person and their toaster of a pc, just a shred of data no matter how worthless is gold to hackers.

when i spoke up in the past i was told to my face i am crazy and need a tinfoil hat, yet here we are in this age of the looking glass, where every drop is food for developers to shove garbage right back at us.

[stoic mesa]

I have no doubt that breaking into my personal windows laptop is not a problem for pros. And I can imagine that someone could once in a while break into MS production servers. What suprises me is that it went undetected and was allowed to get into actual production CDs

[dusk oracle]

we make the most useless garbage and people with IQ's so low they belong in a monkey cage get so lucky they become president and fund it

There is no hope for the human race, we spend more on hurting each other than helping each other

and it seems when we do help it's mostly a long con

i mean why even try break into a server when we can have AI do it for us or just become the dominating hardware supplier so we can shove in backdoors

man is no longer free, they are already interpreting our thoughts

they know how to trigger us, how to make us laugh or cry and we stand by as it happens and do nothing

were so busy being distracted that we allow it to happen

everytime i see RGB lights on ram or a gpu i think "really just going for the gimmick" cuz morons like cute glowy lights more than a tool tha gets the job done

i call it appealing to morons

[stoic mesa]

I also like RGB lights

[dusk oracle]

Golden back plates, sneakers with lights, RBG rims on your lowrider

it's all garbage and people love it

people compete with each other over garbage

go watch idiocrasy.

sums up where we are heading

brain washed all of us are, by our phones, our news, the games we play, our schools

nothing is sacred or safe

we cant even keep films normal, we need to drive our agenda's into them

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915704183469006859/931607039891894292/Matrix-4-is.mp4

here's a meme to distract you all

excuse my rant, but there needs to be a change world wide

Were all acting like mindless animals and were being split up from achieving anything real

all i want to see is a world were we can embrace and grow together and build a future worth having.

in the next 10 years many of us will meet our fate at the disposal of AI taking away jobs and futures.

only the rich will survive, on their floating armchairs that pump liquid gold thru their veins as the world lies in disarray beneath them.

[terse estuary]

I think the only thing I would ask about this is: what do you think you, I, or any other individual should do about this? Do you think there are any individual solutions or even just options to take?

[hasty wedge]

They need to modify RS232 to deliver power

[dusk oracle]

@terse estuary there is a lot we can do, 1. complain more to the right people, 2. vote with our hearts and wallets by not buying garbage, 3. tell developers were not happy.

ect ect..

most of us just shut up and accept the garbage we are given

people pay for gold and diamond encrusted devices.. tell them to their face they are part of a problem.

tell developers to their face, they need to stop looting our time and life for in game content

@hasty wedge usb otg has changed alot

[blissful roost]

I think I should watch Matrix Resurrections again. 😁

[dusk oracle]

https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/the-matrix-resurrections-estimated-to-lose-warner-bros-100-million/

yeah they should make another 50 movies just like this, i'm sure everyone will be rolling in losses

[dusk oracle]

i think i know how they are infecting gamers, the shader cache.

[blissful roost]

It's a real shame that a small minority have affected the film's take..

It's a very good film.

I'm hoping it will be another trilogy, because it should be. 👍

[dusk oracle]

i'm glad you enjoyed the film no one liked

i personally felt it was a cash grab

[blissful roost]

Welcome to Literally Every Movie Ever.

[dusk oracle]

thats hilarious

you should join a comedy club

[blissful roost]

That seems like a redundant suggestion.

[dusk oracle]

Are you just here to upset people?

or am i your target?

[blissful roost]

Who are you?

Oh lawd .. Dolittle is up on Netflix.

I might have to watch it.. see what all the fuss was.

[dusk oracle]

it wasn't that bad

it was a fun film

[stoic mesa]

i would, of course, argue that not all movies are cash grabs, but it is probably redundant 🙂

[dusk oracle]

so true

[blissful roost]

Ohh, for sure.... But it is the general idea to try and make money.

To deride any film for wanting to turn a profit is....... Weird...

[dusk oracle]

some films just want to be films and keep the messages for them self, be entertainment without messages from the pockets of the super rich

[blissful roost]

And, absolutely nonsensical

Kinda like using the term "woke", when it's irrelevant.

[dusk oracle]

other films just utterly tend to be the meanderings of a angry person trying to make a messed up world a reality

[stoic mesa]

sure, studios exist to be profitable, nothing wrong with it. But one can be profitable by making great films, or by making easily digestible nonsense. Each chooses their own path.

[blissful roost]

Of course

[stoic mesa]

of course, it is much harder to make great films that are also profitable

[blissful roost]

Yeah

[stoic mesa]

but such things do exist

[blissful roost]

MCU. 🥰

Not all of them, obvs

[stoic mesa]

Like "One flew over cuckoo's nest"

[blissful roost]

I still haven't seen that...

[stoic mesa]

ohhh. Do it today

[blissful roost]

And The Princess Bride... Haven't seen that either

[blissful roost]

Won't be today... I'll have to figure that one out.

[stoic mesa]

sure

but still, it is a great movie, do watch it!

[blissful roost]

Change it up... Really BAD films...

Blair Witch...

The entire set.. utter ||censored||

IMO, of course......

[dusk oracle]

some video games start off the same way.. just making some thing cool.
then the money starts to flow, and morals diminish, suddenly you are far away

[stoic mesa]

ok,got to go, judging interview for robotics in 10

[blissful roost]

Enjoy!

[blissful roost]

Medal of Honor, Battlefield...

[dusk oracle]

good examples

[blissful roost]

EA...... lol

[dusk oracle]

even the fallout games have this issue

doom is getting closer

[blissful roost]

I couldn't get into any of the FO games.

Not my bag.

[dusk oracle]

elder scrolls will follow this path

they do it all the time

[blissful roost]

Skyrim is already there.

[dusk oracle]

yep

[blissful roost]

Morrowind and Oblivion are both great.

[dusk oracle]

if you comapre skyrims gameplay, content and detail to oblivion

those games were gold can agree

[blissful roost]

Still are.

Lol

[dusk oracle]

i'm sad i just got stood up by my friends

i'm dead inside

[blissful roost]

What are.. "friends"??

🤪

[dusk oracle]

ikr

[blissful roost]

I prefer good company.
Like my bunnies.

[blissful roost]

Interesting....

[dusk oracle]

thats alot of epoxy for a touch sensor

[blissful roost]

It's designed for exterior use.

[dusk oracle]

ahh makes sense

9/10 basic i2c interface

[blissful roost]

It was used for gate access, before some mindless thug smashed it.

[dusk oracle]

if they can break it they will

[blissful roost]

Indeed.

At least I was paid to break stuff, way back when I had that job. Lol

[dusk oracle]

i did security once

realized my boss was a moron over 3 months

then realized i was the moron after he didn't pay me for 3 months of free labour

[blissful roost]

😐

Yeah... Man don't work for nothing.

[dusk oracle]

i did my job well, he didn't want to admit i learned everything he knows in 3 months

[blissful roost]

Ouch

Took me less than 3 days to learn everything useful in my current job. Lolz

[static flare]

just spent 6 hours recasing my PC

[dusk oracle]

i know the feel i spend several days disabling and hacking a bios for a server so i can play games with my friends and it was for nothing cuz they ditched me.

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-crying-michael-scott-sad-upset-gif-9816214

[static flare]

what I would give for a server or two or smth

[dusk oracle]

not always the nicest machine to try gaming

[static flare]

I mean, I have a gaming PC, I just recased it

[dusk oracle]

would not hurt to share a picture

[blissful roost]

I may well recase my PC.. tomorrow or Monday.

[hasty wedge]

[blissful roost]

?

[hasty wedge]

Windows is having some issues with my workstation

That 5900X with 6900XT and 64GB of RAM machine

[blissful roost]

RIP.... Time to reinstall, again...

[hasty wedge]

So I installed ubuntu on it

[blissful roost]

👍

[hasty wedge]

Running pretty stable so far

[blissful roost]

I'd recommend Mint, but... Ehh

[hasty wedge]

I neutralized the snapd

So I am fine with it

[blissful roost]

Preference, innit. 🙂

[hasty wedge]

And now my framework laptop is now a Windows machine

Because I need at least one Windows machine

[blissful roost]

Only reason I maintain Win7 on my main rig is for games.

[dusk oracle]

i have 4 machines, a win xp machine for pre 2000 games, a win 7 machine for software that wont run on 10 and 2 win 10 machines that are still in the ddr3 era

i can imagine people on ddr 4 and 5 are having a blast

[mighty laurel]

What do engineers use when they get hurt?
NANDaids!

[dusk oracle]

gonna been a sensu bean for that one

[static flare]

The new case is very barebones, it doesn't even have side panels on any side

[heavy laurel]

Evening all, I have a random switch question. Does anyone know if there is such a switch that can have 3 inputs and 3 outputs, and the switch makes the connection between either IN 1 and OUT 1 or IN 2 and OUT 2 or IN 3 and OUT 3?

[raw jasper]

https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/418/5/ENG_CD_1825255_B2-660215.pdf has 4 contacts, but still seems close enough

[heavy laurel]

thanks, I'll take a look at it

[wary herald]

Lucky

[blissful roost]

So... here's what happened..

I was using the Akasa, on the right.

Wife demanded the PC be hidden behind the TV because it was "ugly".

Bought the smaller Antec and rebuilt into that..

Since we moved, I have more space.. but I still haven't bothered moving back into the Akasa.

#lazy 😛

The Antec has more space for fans, but.. too cramped and flimsy for my liking.

[brisk blade]

I feel ya

[brisk blade]

Lmao I am just rocking my 14 year old core 2 duo

[blissful roost]

X5470, 2009 😛

[brisk blade]

as my main rig

A even older case lmao

Anyways

Got 30+ year old test equipment coming in at some point so

Eh

Not too old

When things where built to last haha

@honest moth are you typing a whole essay

[honest moth]

...i might try building a RAM drive after I get, and/or find some spare RAM Modules my mates might or might not have.

Apologies for the unrelated topic, but I have a few question(s): Am I about to make a mistake, and has anyone tried this before?

[I have done the research and I know of the drawbacks being that the storage is temporary and no power=volatile storage.]

[brisk blade]

Even more off topic but

Same type of drawback as the HP 3478a

Screw those 3v lithium cells

[honest moth]

When I say Volatile Memory, I mean memory that is flushed from the system whenever the power to the system is cut, either by choice or not.

[brisk blade]

Mhm

[honest moth]

...oh

[brisk blade]

Same thing as a 3478a

Though in the 3478a

It stores cal data

Usually backed up by a 3v lithium

Those batteries are my enemy now

30 years of operation before failing

It failed right before it was supposed to be shipped out to me

[honest moth]

have you tried wiring up a different type of battery to it with the same voltage?

[brisk blade]

Same gig doesn't matter

Cal data's already gonski

Going to put another lithium cell in as

Holy moly

30 years it lasted in there

[honest moth]

ah...oooooohhhhh, that's what you're talking about.

[brisk blade]

Yep

[honest moth]

sorry mate, brain's cooked

XD

[honest moth]

sorry to hear that by the way

[brisk blade]

This little toad

Not mine

But general picture

[brisk blade]

All's good

But pretty funny

[honest moth]

30 years...I'm surprised it lasted THAT long at all!

[brisk blade]

Yeah

Those things have a epic curve

Pretty much flat

Til it dies

Hand drawn but it would be straight er

[honest moth]

compared to the batteries of today...actually, I shouldn't say that, last time I did any real research on those was on Vanadium Redox Flow batteries.

still, that's impressive

[brisk blade]

I mean

Whenever it's on

It's fed by the main supply

Diodes from each

So batteries when mains are disconnected

[brisk blade]

30 years is a heck of a time

[honest moth]

don't make 'em like they used to, that's for bloody certain :P

[brisk blade]

No kidding

What's the difference between a 2 year old phone and a 20-30 year old Tektronix scope?

[honest moth]

lol

[brisk blade]

... the Tektronix still works great

Anyways sorry for rambling on

[honest moth]

Don't worry about it, I rather enjoyed the conversation :)

thanks for that

[brisk blade]

Not a problem

Just felt like rambling

10 pm where I'm at

[honest moth]

11 for me

:P

[brisk blade]

Crud

You should've been the one rambling

Isn't that how it works

[honest moth]

not all the time

[brisk blade]

The latest person has the mic

[honest moth]

I've been depleted for several days straight, sooooo...

[brisk blade]

https://c.tenor.com/lzMWmtUfoPYAAAAM/boris-the-animal-mib.gif

[honest moth]

thanks work.

XD

[brisk blade]

Cheers

I'm worn out

Nap times a callin

[honest moth]

Aye, same

[brisk blade]

Sleep well stranger on the internet

See you probably never again

[honest moth]

you too pal

👍

[brisk blade]

👍

[honest moth]

is this still viable by today's standards? Never really looked into graphics cards that much considering what is happening to them right now. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/sapphire-hd-7870-dual-x-oc.b665

that, and i can't afford anything close to an upgrade rn

[swift snow]

It will work, but keep in mind AMD doesn't officially update this card's drivers anymore. I'd look into a GT 1030 or something similar if you want a cheap GPU.

[honest moth]

thanks.

[dusty citrus]

depends on what your playing

[honest moth]

ethical hacking and programming

[dusty citrus]

then your fine with you have

you don't need to push too much.

even on board graphics is fine

[honest moth]

ok cool, just need a hard drive upgrade then.

...still stuck on an hdd

[dusty citrus]

infact on board graphics are probably faster than that 7870

[honest moth]

yyyeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, about that...

i would have to say otherwise with how old this frankenstein is.

[dusty citrus]

oh i thought you were buying new

but yeah. for most part programming doesn't require a good gpu...

i'd spend the money on an SSD and CPU for faster compile times

[late fulcrum]

For programming, frame buffers are generally fine. I ran a setup with a laptop and six external monitors for a while, 4 of them from USB-DVI adapters. For programming, it was totally fine and all that screen real estate totally rocked.

[wooden schooner]

how many heads did you have at the time?

[late fulcrum]

The same number I usually have, I don't remember how many auxiliary eyes I had extruded.

[lusty fossil]

My favorite Mexican place and the only one in the town I work in has been closed for 2+ weeks. I'm concerned

I hope they didn't get hit by covid

[static flare]

got something fun in the mail today~

[static flare]

a card terminal! very excited to poke at it

[lusty fossil]

Nice!

[blissful roost]

I'm hoping my SATA>PCIe power cable turns up today..

[dusk oracle]

what a mess, sister comes into the room, yells at me thinking i kicked her off the wifi

i look why the media player she has is a piece of garbage

replace the wifi with a wired connection

replace her rage with kindness and care

now she can't say i kicked her off

[blissful roost]

Until she figures out that you changed the WiFi password.....

[hasty wedge]

Do not buy GT1030!

It's just a cheap reskin of an already age old card

If you can, wait for RX6500XT or RTX3050

Which all have ray tracing capability

[solar ridge]

@upper radish That link is not allowed.

[upper radish]

i am hacked

[late fulcrum]

What is a card terminal?

[dusk oracle]

@blissful roost that would mean i need to give the password to 10 devices.. i aint got time for that

[late fulcrum]

That happened to me when I let one of my customer's windows machines connect to my (formerly) secure network. Then I had to change the passwords on everything.

[static flare]

like, what you would use to pay by card at a store

[late fulcrum]

Ah, cool. Like a magstripe/chip reader, keyboard, display?

[static flare]

yee

[static flare]

Also just got some important game screencaps for a prop replica I want to make

[late fulcrum]

I know that feel.

[static flare]

Gonna remake the Registration Station from Alien: Isolation

[dusk oracle]

@static flare that would be pretty epic

[fiery hearth]

ADAFAX: I've got shills. They're multiplying.
Disclaimer: This isn't real, but it could be. It's a really simple web template.
More to the point I'm looking to bring back the Red Green Yellow and Blue buttons on remote controls for something, Ceefax being its original use.
The Banana Pi has an IR Driver and it could be passed through using WebSerial...

[tardy badger]

Sometimes I wonder if your pet has a particular illness that maybe it’s suppressing the symptoms of a bigger underlying illness

I’ll be happy though to be done giving my cat antibiotics tomorrow morning

He has been hissing at me lately because I’ve had to scruff him to get the pills down

2x a day for the last week

[static flare]

Streamed playing the game for a couple of hours as I got this screenshot

[dusk oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-isolation-its-a-trap-light-ceiling-gif-11953142

[static flare]

Not sure what everything on it is, mostly along the left hand side

[blissful roost]

Poor texture quality doesn't help

[static flare]

It's annoying because that's the best I'm able to get, with highest graphics settings, maybe I could fiddle with the Gamma to get it more distinct, at least I know what all the text now says

[blissful roost]

I have the game myself.. in places, the texture quality drops from acceptable to utter jank.

[static flare]

highlighted parts I'm not sure on

[dusk oracle]

this render is a bit clearer

those 3 lights are for power allocation

l1 l2 l3 like phases

this thing doesn't know what it wants to be

i see horizontal and vertical scope channels

[wooden schooner]

is there a way in-game to remove your card before the all 3 progression lights go out and confirm that it does indeed invalidate your login, per the signage in the top-right

[blissful roost]

"Power Allocated" on the bottom three.

[dusk oracle]

bottom left on top to the side of the green light, headphone jack?

[cobalt stone]

Interesting looking puzzle solitaire game "Ada Lovelace: Consulting Detective"
There are at least 2 other follow-ons also.
https://payhip.com/b/ENVF
Ada Lovelace: Legacy of the Analytical Engine: https://payhip.com/b/UKPz

[tardy badger]

Did anyone feel like Eternals was a little bit all over the place story wise?

It felt very squirrelly to me, though the cast was pretty good

[wooden schooner]

PSA: the ceiling is not necessarily level.

[fading hare]

||I thought it was pretty good. I didn't have any issues with the story or continuity, but it did feel a bit like they tried to squeeze in a lot of story in one movie, and the setup for a second movie was not very subtle in the way it built up.||

[dusk oracle]

@tardy badger it was boring and sort of out of my area of interests.

[lusty fossil]

It didn't know what it wanted to do.

The end credit scene was good though. Although I'm not sure which character that is.

I thought I did but maybe I'm misremembering what I thought

[static flare]

I've got everything figured out now

[raw jasper]

A literal physical save point — Pretty cool concept! Which game is it from?

[static flare]

Alien: Isolation

[raw jasper]

Thanks!

[tardy badger]

It really felt like the story jumped around too much, I wish Phastos would have had a bigger arc, and just overall the movie felt jumbled

The mid credit scenes were great though

[static flare]

Anyone wanna see what I've done so far with the modelling?

[late fulcrum]

That video game console? Yeah.

[static flare]

I've spent maybe 2-3 hours on this? Mostly just modelling it so I can get dimensions for when I make it, paneling and such

[late fulcrum]

Still, nice model, it captures the shapes and relations of the pieces nicely

[static flare]

Which is what I was going for!

not sure if I should keep the EMERGENCY panel at the top, the shrouding, or just leave it

[late fulcrum]

In the original, it looks like the "EMERGENCY" letters are 3D, like they're raised above the background.

[static flare]

I wouldn't emboss them, lord no

[raw jasper]

is completely hopeless with anything CAD-like

Perhaps one of these days, I should try

[static flare]

I just have a talent for shaping lines and computer programs to my will

I get into a zone almost with it, just tweaking

[late fulcrum]

In a 3D model, I might, but I'd just do it mathematically from an outline of the letters. If I were actually building one, I'd probably 3D print the letters.

[raw jasper]

Shaping computer programs to my will
Will keep this in mind for my CV next time 😛

[static flare]

Either way, I feel like it might be more effort than it's worth, especially considering I need to still figure out how to design the decals for the panels

[raw jasper]

(forms salt circle in the form of a valid SVG to summon the Graphic Design Spirits[TM])

[static flare]

Do I get custom vinyl stickers? Do I print it out on paper?

[late fulcrum]

Yeah, the decals are a whole 'nother project. While I have a decal printer, I usually use my vinyl cutter for larger letters, or rub-on letters for small ones.

[static flare]

I have none of those :(

[late fulcrum]

I've tried laser printing stuff onto transparency stock, but didn't really like the results.

[static flare]

I feel like I should maybe make most of what I need just paint, like most of the colouring

I think the top instructional I'll make a sticker

Then there's the button, which I have no clue how to do what I want with that

[late fulcrum]

You can just buy rub-on lettering, in a variety of colors, typefaces, and sizes. Here's one vendor: https://www.rosegraphics.com.au/index.php/dry-transfer

They do custom work too, which could be really handy.

[static flare]

You made sure to find an Aussie vendor! I feel valued <3

[late fulcrum]

It's the little things. It would be silly to buy $6 worth of letters that would cost $28 in carriage.

[static flare]

I've seen people talk about dry transfer lettering, didn't know it was still a thing

[dusk oracle]

@static flare looking awesome

[late fulcrum]

It's not as popular as it once was, as people often just laser print stuff, but it's still popular with various DIY communities.

[static flare]

I'll cross the bridge of what to do when I come to needing to do it haha

[late fulcrum]

As is wise. I tend to get ahead of myself and spin my wheels when I don't need to (yet).

[static flare]

I mean, the wife and I are moving in 5 hours

So I can't really get started on the physical part of this :p

[spice drum]

who here would buy a robot arm

[static flare]

I would make one maybe

[dusty citrus]

depends on the arm

size, grip strength ect

[static flare]

controllability

[spice drum]

I don’t have the grip yet

[spice drum]

700 mm ish total

also how about a robot dog

[static flare]

I'll probably use a Pico to power it, when I end up braining it up

[spice drum]

I’m using a raspberry pi but when it’s on the robot dog I’ll be yawing the jetson nano

[dusk oracle]

very cool

[hard mica]

James Webb Space Telescope, now in the final 100,000 km.

[cedar iron]

Today is the 10th anniversary of the SOPA/PIPA blackout. A very good reminder that the internet would have been a LOT worse if not dead if activists, organizations, and smaller companies didn't stepped up. Here's a great retrospective piece from Mike Masnick over at Techdirt. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220114/14583548284/remembering-fight-against-sopa-10-years-later-what-it-means-today.shtml

[lusty fossil]

We need some sort of registry for people who both don't leash their dogs and make no attempt to keep them from coming towards leashed dogs who's owners are obviously trying to keep the dogs apart.

[raw jasper]

o_O It's already been 10 years?!

Time flies...

[lusty fossil]

We're getting old, friend

[raw jasper]

That's fine by me

As long as we make it to the other side of this pandemic, that is

[lusty fossil]

No guarantee of that unfortunately

Vaccines make it more likely fortunately

[raw jasper]

Yeah, that's a silver lining

I have been vaccinated and boosted

So, that's that

[lusty fossil]

What luck that we'd been working on coronavirus mRNA vaccines for 20 years

[raw jasper]

mRNA vaxes in general

[lusty fossil]

Some people fortunately have foresight.

[raw jasper]

afaik CoVs weren't a specific target

[lusty fossil]

I read that they were but I've been wrong before

[raw jasper]

According to the Wiki:

The first human clinical trials using an mRNA vaccine against an infectious agent (rabies) began in 2013.[37][38] Over the next few years, clinical trials of mRNA vaccines for a number of other viruses were started. mRNA vaccines for human use have been studied for infectious agents such as influenza,[39] Zika virus, cytomegalovirus, and Chikungunya virus.[40][41]

So certainly not SARS-1

[lusty fossil]

Oh I read that mRNA vaccines and Corona vaccines were both being developed for a long time

[raw jasper]

I'm not sure about corona vaccines

[lusty fossil]

I miscommunicated

[raw jasper]

but mrna tech is very old

It has been used, in some form or another, in lab organisms since at least the '90s

(With the discovery of RNA interference in petunia plants )

[wooden schooner]

My dimmer died after about ~30-60 minutes of use. Opening it up, I see there is that fuse F1 -- but to my surprise, there is still continuity across the fuse. Any idea what could have happened or what steps I could try? (Default is returning it, but why not use the learning opportunity and maybe save resources)

[raw jasper]

OFC, RNAi has nothing to do with the vaccine! But it was (AFAIK) one of the first applications of injecting RNA in the lab

[wooden schooner]

(edit: cropped image)

[cedar iron]

Yep, and I was there too.

[raw jasper]

simpler times...?

[lusty fossil]

Prelude to current times, I'd argue

[burnt tendon]

Basically, when the SARS epidemic hit, folks were like "Whew, that could have been so much worse, we should do research in case next time we can't contain it"

[lusty fossil]

That's what I recall. I remember SARS well. Very scary

[burnt tendon]

MERS, too.

But, yeah, that's one of the big disappointments is that they did manage to halt SARS with a relatively small amount of drama.

Obviously part of that was because SARS was not well adjusted to spread, but at the same time, we had a bunch of really great tools to fight this one that were getting their first real go at curing a pandemic and they worked out astonishingly well... and then it was curtailed by silly things like not letting any of the vaccines go open source or people deciding they were too cool for a vaccine

[lusty fossil]

I was a little disappointed with the acronym for the second there. But can't always have nice things

[burnt tendon]

mRNA is seriously bizarre tho

[lusty fossil]

I don't remember enough of squishy sciences to know anything about it

[burnt tendon]

XKCD says it best: https://xkcd.com/2425/

xkcd: mRNA Vaccine

To ensure lasting immunity, doctors recommend destroying a second Death Star some time after the first.

Like, if you have the equivalent of the death star's plans floating around your bloodstream, your body will build 'em and it works.

[raw jasper]

At no point does the vaccine enter the bloodstream

It's an intramuscular injection, which contains a lipid vesicle emulsion containing mRNA

[burnt tendon]

Oh, yeah, and ironically that got it's own XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2402/

xkcd: Into My Veins

"Okay, for the last time, the shot is free, so we can't--" "Shut up and take my money!"

[raw jasper]

The vesicles fuse with the local cells, where the mRNA is translated to CoV-spike

CoV-spike is finally trafficked to the cell membrane, and the immune response can start

Actually, the mRNA in current vaccines has been modified so that it can stay intact long enough to work

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleoside-modified_messenger_RNA

Some of the produced spike is also broken down into tiny pieces by the cells which have received the vaccine nanoparticles and displayed on the Major Histocompatibility class 1 (MHC-I) complex. This way, the organism also learns how to identify and kill infected cells, giving rise to the so-called cellular (or, as often referred to in the media "t-cell") immunity

https://www.modernatx.com/moderna-blog/shedding-light-our-prophylactic-vaccines-moa this page has a diagram that pretty much summarizes the whole thing

(disclaimer: I am not a doctor, and most of this could be wrong!)

[crude folio]

i'm in it for the neat side effects

magnetism is great

[raw jasper]

I only got a fever /feels cheated/ 😛

[wooden schooner]

Ah, looks like it might be the solder joint on D2.

Idk how to repair SMT though 😆

[crude folio]

some people do it with a blowtorch

don't be one of those people

[wooden schooner]

I would have thought blowtorches to be better suited to the inverse process of repairing SMT

[crude folio]

yeah i don't know if there's been any success with that method

[dusk oracle]

the right tool for the right job

easiest is a reflow station

simpler components can br soldered on ez with a fine tip, right heat and steady hand

[wooden schooner]

that does look like an unreliable joint, right?

[dusk oracle]

taking them of varies but reflow is ez

[wooden schooner]

I'm gonna return it, don't want to pay full product price just for a SMT experiment

[dusk oracle]

yeah if you don't feel comfortable don't do it, but also remember practice is the key to growth

also i think rflow can be done with a torch provided someone makes a heat guard for micro torches

like a tube with side airflow that fits the torch tip and needs to be adjusted just right, perhaps with a tiny temp meter

at worst it may need more metal as a sink

so it would need to be used fast for a quick component

some guy reading this rn going $_$

[tardy badger]

Why settle for magnetism when Ryan Reynold got 5G

[crude folio]

i dont think its deployed in my area, will have to ask around

[wooden schooner]

yeah definitely. I would just start on a blank board rather than a real device

[dusk oracle]

yeah

there was a kit somewhere that lets you practice several sizes of led and resistor as your 1st smd

[wooden schooner]

Btw, while I'm asking for confirmation of defective products, those arrows on the bottom are supposed to touch, right? This as far as it goes, and when I try to strip an AWG 18 wire, it just scrapes the insulation, doesn't fully strip it.

[dusk oracle]

no

[wooden schooner]

there's supposed to be a gap then?

[dusk oracle]

but that does look off

the area with the bladed edge seems too wide

so i think ur right

[thick wind]

I think the one I use at work has a small gap, but with a normal amount of grip strength, it does close.

I somehow doubt your tool will do the same.

[wooden schooner]

I'd have to break the wire cutter to get it to close

[dusk oracle]

i can't sleep

[wooden schooner]

I wonder if Home Depot will let me return it, given that I've thrown away the receipt and packaging

[fair summit]

30 yo Sears tool

[dusk oracle]

that pitbull that attacked me, keep seeing the barking and feeling the biting

[fair summit]

ugh bad lighting

[dusk oracle]

yeah you can see a gap but it's smaller

[dusk oracle]

uh yeah it's tight

no gap

[wooden schooner]

Yesterday? Yesterday you said you'd call Sears. (reference to a commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rqZZgVxnCk)

[fair summit]

the teeth on the stripper portion are touching

[dusk oracle]

you can see the quality compared

[fair summit]

mine is stamped "Taiwan". It was cheap, but it works. It can cut bolts. I only use it for crimping. I have Klein for stripping wires

[dusk oracle]

@wooden schooner if you sharpen it on the cutting area it will work better

[wooden schooner]

the way this one is set up, with the openings below the handles and a bunch of resistance opening and closing the handles, seems pretty unergonomic to me. I like the smaller one I got from Adafruit much better https://www.adafruit.com/product/147

[dusk oracle]

it's so nice to talk to people that are open minded and i can relate to

[wooden schooner]

is there a reason to have it that way rather than like a pair of scissors as the second wire stripper does?

[dusk oracle]

i have one of these over 15 years old

better design tho, oh wait no exactly the same just white

[thick wind]

I can’t speak for the original design intent, but my guess would be the distance from hand to wire is shorter, so less strain in the wrist or whatever.
It’s probably not relevant, considering a good pair of strippers will pull that insulation off like butter…

[wooden schooner]

also lets them put more stuff on the other side, but I don't need that stuff, and/or would get a second tool if I did for the ergonomics

[raw jasper]

I'm really surprised by the fact the Arduino Uno still exists

[dusk oracle]

teeth work but dentist appointments work too

or you can use the knife trick with a bluntish knife

and a sacrificial thumb

i once pulled a wire with my teeth, wire slid between my gum

and the rest is dentist

[fair summit]

i already told the story that i was stripping phone wires with my teeth, and the phone rang. I have a small notch in one tooth now.

[dusk oracle]

oof

[raw jasper]

That.. sounds painful 😐

[fair summit]

there was a little burning smell

[dusk oracle]

yeah 10/10 not recommended

[raw jasper]

Electrolysis of the tissue <_<

[dusk oracle]

i know that taste

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-iron-man-avengers-the-avengers-gif-14531792

[lusty fossil]

landlines are DC right?

Dangerous

[fair summit]

90v ring voltage

[raw jasper]

AC 90VRMS during ringing

[fair summit]

less for dialtone

[lusty fossil]

Not that AC isn't also dangerous, but DC could lead to clenching your jaws shut on the wire

[raw jasper]

I think the ringing is AC though

because it had to mobilize physical bell motors

(on early phones)

[lusty fossil]

could they not just use brushed DC motors that operate at 90 VDC?

[raw jasper]

Did brushed DC motors exist in the late 1800s?

[lusty fossil]

I would think if AC motors existed, brushed DC motors existed but I don't recall my engineering history terribly well

let me google

[raw jasper]

Same here, same here

[lusty fossil]

looks like 1832

[burnt tendon]

Glad y'all got a chance to brush up on your motor history.

[brisk blade]

Just got my 3478a

It's calibrated

100 bucks with shipping

[stoic mesa]

wow... I thought it is more like 24v

[lusty fossil]

old school phones are mildly terrifying.

I mean holding a lipo up to your face is a different manner of terrifying

[brisk blade]

Lmao

[stoic mesa]

lipos are low voltage, but boy, can they produce high current

[brisk blade]

Indeed

They scare me

Unless they are in a container of sorts

[wooden schooner]

Do different current+voltage combinations that deliver the same power feel different?

[brisk blade]

"bombs bursting mid air"

[wooden schooner]

I'm not even sure to what extent electric shocks are a "feeling" actually

[stoic mesa]

I recently met a guy who asked me what kind of connectors he needs if his project uses 24 motors, each at 200A

[brisk blade]

Feeling of pain

[stoic mesa]

that's not a typo

[brisk blade]

Holy

Connector

The holy connector

Imbued by the gods of wattage

[stoic mesa]

I told him to get out of here, I have nothing to do with these projects

[wooden schooner]

a 0.001mV connector, that's what.

[stoic mesa]

whatever he uses, let it be his problem
and local fire department

[lusty fossil]

Is he making a Mars rover?

That also crushes rocks?

[stoic mesa]

some kind of jetpack

didn't ask for details

[lusty fossil]

Oh that word is not allowed

[stoic mesa]

:)

[lusty fossil]

He wants some poor fool to wear this thing?

[stoic mesa]

himself

[brisk blade]

Suicide squad

[stoic mesa]

reminded me of a guy who wanted to prove that earth is flat

[brisk blade]

Irl edition

[stoic mesa]

by flying up in a homemade steam-powered rocket

I can find the link

[lusty fossil]

didn't he do it?

But didn't get high enough and concluded that the earth is flat

[stoic mesa]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655.amp

[lusty fossil]

How these people get the money and yet I'm gonna be paying off my car for years is beyond me

oh he died, that's sad

[brisk blade]

Well

People want a show

And a splat

They know it's gonna happen

[lusty fossil]

his haircut scans

[stoic mesa]

yes. but then, he chose this activity for himself

[brisk blade]

hides my contribution message

[lusty fossil]

Still, it's sad when mental illness leads to death.

Hopefully g-forces knocked him out and he didn't see it coming

[wooden schooner]

I heard once that photos from space showing a round earth from space don't prove the earth is round, since they're stitched together from multiple captures via a method that assumes the earth is round. Do you know if that's true?

[stoic mesa]

no.

[lusty fossil]

I think the earlier the photo, the less likely that is to be true

[stoic mesa]

the iconic "blue marble" photo, afaik, is a single frame

yes, it is

[wooden schooner]

I wonder what the person who told me that was referring to

[stoic mesa]

more recent high res photos are stitched

[wooden schooner]

Thanks for making me aware of this name

[stoic mesa]

did you look it up? it is a beautiful image

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Earth_seen_from_Apollo_17.jpg

[lusty fossil]

what's crazy is we're still breathing those clouds

[wooden schooner]

Yep I did. And to my surprise, I recognized it easily

[lusty fossil]

That water is still moving through the water cycle

[wooden schooner]

We're breathing Caesar

[fading hare]

After a very heartbreaking attempt at soldering pilot connectors on a keyboard cable that was covered in some thick Paracord on top of MDPC-X, and burning my left index finger to a 3rd degree burn, and my right index and middle finger to 2nd degree burns, I am just going to mail my soldering station back to the manufacturer and go do something even dumb people are great at. Get drunk and tinker with micro controllers.

My main struggles were getting the wiring right from the USB-C to the USB-A over the pilot connector. I had power, but somehow messed up my D+ and D- wiring somewhere along those four (times four) solder joints.

[wooden schooner]

I think you overestimate dumb people

[stoic mesa]

getting drunk is the good start

and then later you can figure out the rest

[fading hare]

I am going to take a very deep breath of Caesar and go destroy something beautiful. Like this here SAMD51.

That reminds me, I need to dip into #help-with-arduino because... math.

[dusk oracle]

officially been awake for 25 hours

[fading hare]

You officially need to sleep, while breathing in the heady yet effervescent remnants of Caesar.

[dusk oracle]

every tile i close my eyes i see a bull terrier ripping up my hands

ptsd

[fading hare]

wait, that was a thing that happened to you, like IRL?

[dusk oracle]

happened yesterday

[fading hare]

daaaang

did you at least skin that bull terrier and eat it?

[dusk oracle]

i can post picks but not here

dm would beter

[fading hare]

you can dm me

wait... what did I just sign up for?

😄

[dusk oracle]

i thought it was a pit bull

but it was a bull terrier

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860462509881557044/933198786598154240/unknown.png

they left the gate open

but were gone for weeks

[fading hare]

that's a long golf trip

[shadow siren]

The reason for the stitched earth photos is the satellite taking the picture is too close and can only get a partial, there are only a few distant sats the can get the earth in one frame, the Japanese sat is one of them. it takes a full pic every hour I believe.

sorry every 10mins, Himawari-8 satellite

real cool to watch the slideshow http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Real-Color+images+of+the+earth+from+the+satellite+Himawari+(JMA)

[lusty fossil]

FYI USAians the site to get free covid tests is up and running

Really easy to do

https://special.usps.com/testkits

[hard estuary]

@idle lion I'm just getting to the notes from the meeting yesterday, thank you for the hug report. Glad to hear you're a podcast person, too. 🙂

[hard estuary]

And if you get the Winamp skins working in displayio, I've already got a project in mind. 🙂

[dusk oracle]

does winamp still exist?

O_O

[hard estuary]

I'm listening to the CircuitPython Weekly meeting from yesterday, and I think foamyguy wants to just draw skins using displayio

[dusk oracle]

makes sense some were really artsy

[hard estuary]

The big project I"m working on is a random record chooser on the web, then it uses MQTT to display the album art on a matrix. I could add a 64x32 matrix and show the artist and album name dynamically right in the skin.....

[idle lion]

@hard estuary and @dusk oracle I don't think winamp proper still exists, although I'm guessing there is still a runnable version around the web somewhere since folks were so into it. My goal is to allow the skins from here: https://skins.webamp.org/ to be used on a PyPortal with a basic MP3 player. It won't be the full winamp experience, but enough to get some nostalgia flowing.

[hard estuary]

I might have to get one of those then. 🙂

[dusk oracle]

i tried loading the win amp site

that domain is hacked

[hard estuary]

boo

[dusk oracle]

indeed

however there are tons of better music apps

[hard estuary]

Thankfully I don't need a music app for the project i have in mind.

[idle lion]

ah, I hadn't noticed that it wasn't winamp in the URL. Apparently "webamp.org" is a functional winamp "emulator" that runs in the browser.

[dusk oracle]

i stream my music

[lusty fossil]

Sigh: jacket alone is too cold, jacket + space heater is too hot, space heater alone is too cold.

What I'd give to be well adapted to even moderate weather

[tardy badger]

My brain autocorrected to USAsians 🤦🏻‍♂️

[lusty fossil]

I was like 5% concerned that might happen but it's my favorite silly initialism to use so I took the risk.

[tardy badger]

Honestly, some of the people who made America a great food destination was Asians so I salute to the USAsians because without them, we wouldn’t have so much of the cuisine the US has

Obviously they made other contributions like STEM, Healthcare, public service, etc…

But I really appreciate the food part a lot

[lusty fossil]

Our mix of cultures has definitely lead to great foods being available

[wary herald]

Cheaper tech....

[wary herald]

Has anyone seen @delicate stream

[lusty fossil]

They may want to be off discord for a while. It happens

[wary herald]

I took a break for 1 month

for Christmas tho

[static flare]

Was just thinking about Doc! it's been a while since I've heard from them

[lusty fossil]

Hopefully everything is good and they are just offline

[wary herald]

Let's hope so

[wary herald]

I believe he got a new job

[hasty quarry]

I saw the Taylor series of e, and after looking at it for a bit, I realized taking its derivative would just get rid of one term, but shift everything back into place and give you the exact same series. Just like e. The Hilbert’s Hotel of math

That is beautiful to me

[stoic mesa]

oh yes
did you already see the series for e^{ix} and why it is related to sin and cosine?

[lusty fossil]

This whole board process has been felicitous. First the connector I wanted to use fit perfectly between the mounting holes that I can't move. Then pins on the chips I'm using mapped near perfectly to the connectors I want to use such that the routing was a breeze and looks great. Just now it turned out I have just enough space for a verbose silkscreen that makes it more useable. Someone's looking out for me.

[fading hare]

Past you is looking out for you.

[lusty fossil]

I kinda lucked into all of these things or I'd put it down to skill

[dusk oracle]

nice

more skill than you thought

the gods have blessed you

[lusty fossil]

I can't recall what to google to find the little vector images of blinka (I think they are vector). I want to add a little CP goodness to my silkscreen

anyone know?

[unkempt nimbus]

on github, lemme find the repo

[lusty fossil]

ooh thx

[unkempt nimbus]

https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/tree/main/logo

[lusty fossil]

Thank you! Bookmarked

[unkempt nimbus]

np!

[lusty fossil]

hmmm these aren't exactly what I was thinking of but I may be able to make them work?

Thanks again

[acoustic slate]

Now do this for sine(x), cosine(x), -sine(x), and -cosine(x) --- write them out one below the other..... 🐱 🙀 😻

[hasty quarry]

I’ve seen that proof of his identity before yes

[tardy badger]

I know plenty of people are fairly certain Russia is just posturing with their buildup of force near Ukraine but I am a wee bit worried about a deeper collaborative effort to hamstring a western response that could lead to the falling of the Ukraine and Taiwan

Maybe a bit hyperbolic, but increased rhetoric from Russia and China suggest they are willing to take a chance to subvert western influence and power

[tardy badger]

Oh no Euler’s proof runs away

[stoic mesa]

Euler's proof never runs away from anyone!!

[burnt tendon]

Oh yeah, I've got people in the Ukraine. I also had coworkers in Turkey when they had the coup there.

[thick wind]

...I feel really bad for looking for a pun before realizing what the conversation was about.

[raw jasper]

PSA: If anyone is in Europe and is shopping for PPE, please check whether the CE certificates are still valid

I just found some masks with a suspended CE certificate

If I understand it correctly, according to https://www.szutest.com/information-certification-processes-protective-masks/ , for the CE marking to be valid, a mask must have a valid certificate for both module B and either module C2 or D

So, it might be best to check both! In my case, module B was valid and C2 had been suspended (Disclaimer: This is not medical or legal advice)

[honest moth]

about that

one: reviews of the RX6500XT are less than favorable, and two: the RTX3050 is something that is way beyond what I can afford right now.

...and beyond what I will ever be able to afford.

SO, I will be sticking with budget-friendly GPU's for the time being. Besides, it's not like I'm gaming on it or anything.

...sighs in broken-down frankenstein

...and salvaged HDD's.

but hey, if I can make it work with what I've got, I will.

[raw jasper]

FYI, if you just want to play with GPUs for machine learning, Google colab is free and has GPUs

[honest moth]

Yep, I know those exist. Thanks for the reminder though!

[thick wind]

The price difference is only 50 dollars MSRP. RTX3050 isn't out yet, but it's supposed to be their current-gen entry-level GPU.

I wouldn't recommend either of them, though, since both are likely to be in short supply in our economy.

[lusty fossil]

Good looking out. I'm in the US but I have friends in the UK

[thick wind]

What are you trying to upgrade from?

[raw jasper]

It's been a confusing few years for the PPE market :\ ; The sudden influx of products abiding to a wide variety of different standards (along with the inevitable knockoffs), along with the fact that the offerings of single-use PPE providers known from the Before Times are expensive enough to be out of reach for daily use has made everything... complicated

The difference to any other product type is that accidentally buying a knockoff or a substandard product can have potentially deadly consequences 😦

Anyway, glad my shot-in-the-dark post could be of help! 😄

[thick wind]

It's probably worth noting that unless you spend a lot of time in a high-risk environment like a hospital or a construction site, you really don't need to have perfect protection. Having a mask is a significant reduction of pathogen spread, regardless of its classification. Even if the quality control certification is suspended, having a lower quality mask is still better than no mask. If you're purchasing for daily use, I don't know if you really need to be that focused on the status of its certifications.

It's good to be aware of these things, but unless there's like an active safety recall or something, it's not necessarily going to be the difference maker between catching it and not catching it.

[raw jasper]

I am not going to start a PPE flamewar here! The only thing I can say is that everyone should evaluate their personal relative (and perceived) risk and make decisions accordingly

[harsh goblet]

New products, NOT mil spec. I rage 😤

[honest moth]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/sapphire-hd-7870-dual-x-oc.b665

core i3 processor might not be able to handle an upgrade though.

[honest moth]

also, trying to upgrade from hdd's. Currently debating between the conventional SSD or the new, albeit experimental and dangerously hot, M.2 via M.2 PCIe adapter.

[lusty fossil]

I had an M.2 that was amazing, until it failed

[honest moth]

that's what I hear.

[harsh goblet]

m.2 is really that bad?

I just bought one ):

[honest moth]

well, from what I hear, it isn't that bad...it just creates enough heat to rival the surface of the sun.

So, I would recommend getting a decent cooling unit for it.

[harsh goblet]

I was not aware they made cooling units for them

Mine just slots right into my mobo and has a little metal shield over it

[wooden schooner]

mine has some kind of thermal pad underneath

[honest moth]

yyyyeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhh...unless your machine has decent cooling, I would look up and research ways to cool M.2's in a compact environment if what you are talking about is it sliding into a laptop.

[harsh goblet]

It is not a laptop

[honest moth]

Ok, well still, just as a precaution, I would recommend researching cooling for M.2's, just to be safe.

[harsh goblet]

I definitely appreciate the advice. I was planning on putting a second one in at some point

[honest moth]

More power to you.

[harsh goblet]

I don't particularly enjoy the thought of them joining forces to melt my mobo lol

[honest moth]

lol

I don't think anyone would

[harsh goblet]

Heat sinks don't appear to be very expensive. But for the cost may also not be very efficient

[honest moth]

that's typically the tradeoff

[fading hare]

heat sinks are generally decent, but, if heat is a concern, I would recommend looking into getting a PCIe card instead of an M.2. Way better cooling options.

[harsh goblet]

It wasn't a concern until 30 minutes ago hahaha

[fading hare]

I've loved my M.2s.

But, I have heat sinks. Always.

I would keep an eye on drive temps, keep them below 50'C basically.

[harsh goblet]

I'll start monitoring it. Since I already have two m.2s I probably won't go pcie but I can at least mitigate the heat

[fading hare]

there's PCIe cards that you can put M.2s into... worth looking into maybe

[harsh goblet]

Ahh I see

Well maybe I still will then

[fading hare]

but, not sure how expensive they are... but, they're definitely going to help with cooling... lots more options, including liquid in some cases

[harsh goblet]

My psu just blew up last Thursday so I had to replace that

[fading hare]

What kind of temps are you running at? In C?

[harsh goblet]

Temps of which part?

[fading hare]

CPU? GPU? NVMe?

[dusk oracle]

NVMe

[harsh goblet]

Cpu is 30-35C gpu is 30-35C drive is 31C right now

[dusk oracle]

thats fine

[fading hare]

that's awesome

but, how hot do they get?

[harsh goblet]

Well I wasn't monitoring them before my psu went out, but since then I haven't seen them get above 65C

Cpu, gpu. I haven't checked drive Temps until you guys suggested it

[fading hare]

Alright. That's good. Drive temps should be below 50, optimally below 40. Anything else affects read/write speeds and lifetime of the drive. For NVMe, that is.

@harsh goblet I recommend running a longer test on something like Heaven: https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven

basically set it to run for 10+ minutes

and monitor your temps

You could also run Time Spy or something, but it's not as good at keeping a steady load on the CPU and GPU

For new CPU burn-ins I generally run Cinebench for 15-20 minutes. Just to get the thermal paste to a stable state. Sometimes it can fluctuate a bit, and sometimes you won't even notice a bad thermal paste application until you're mid-raid in Destiny 2, two hours in and your computer just goes dark. 😄

[harsh goblet]

burn in, that's new to me.

So these programs just crank your hardware and tell you how it's doing?

[fading hare]

yup

they're technically for benchmarking, but, I generally don't care because K|NGP|N is always on top of them anyway, so why play. 😄 So I use them to test system stability after overclocking CPU/GPU, and right as I've put together a computer with brand new parts.

Burn-in is a thing with higher-end CPUs and AIOs or hard tube liquid cooling. I definitely always do it, even on cheaper rigs. Just to make sure that there's nothing wrong with memory, CPU, or GPU.

There's a bunch of different ones. Some are using Curses text interfaces, and some, like Heaven, looks real pretty while you wait for the computer to catch fire, or not.

I find it kind of peaceful. 🙂

[harsh goblet]

Ah yeah well you see.. Something about pushing my computer until it may catch on fire doesn't sound appealing..

Considering it already popped and stunk

[fading hare]

😄

So don't overclock. But, if your computer can't run Heaven in 1080p (or 4K) depending on your card setup, then you've got issues.

Leave it running for something like 10-20 minutes. If it handles that fine, and temps are fine, then you're good. Until the little hardware leprechauns get in there again and murder your GPU or something.

Obviously, if temps spike, don't continue running. 😄

[harsh goblet]

Is overheating the only cause of a GPU going bad? Could an issue with another part ruin my GPU?

[fading hare]

So, you may want to be present for the test.

Static can ruin it.

[harsh goblet]

Yeah I don't leave my computer running without me in the room anymore

[fading hare]

Lightning strikes.

Brown-outs.

You pouring gatorade on it because it's thirsty.

Hardware defects.

Overheating generally isn't a cause for the GPU to go bad.

It'll thermal throttle itself into oblivion, and shut down, before you can get it hot enough that it burns.

[dusk oracle]

depends really most gpu's go bad due to the fans failing at old age and people ignoring the sound of dead bearings

[fading hare]

(or not watching temps, as they should)

[dusk oracle]

yes

[fading hare]

so yeah, like Electron said, if you hear a whining noise, check your fans... if it's just a case fan, OK, but if it's the CPU or GPU fans, gotta get on that

case fans are not super critical, so if one fails, your rig will most likely run OK for a while, but, you should replace as soon as possible. If the CPU or GPU fans go, then you shouldn't start your computer until you've replaced them.

For instance, a Ryzen 7 will get to about 130'C in about 5 seconds without any kind of cooling on it. Don't ask me how I know this.

[shadow siren]

Ok I am ready for floppy madness, located in my collection a 1.2M 5.25 and a 1.44M 3.5 floppy drives plus the correct cables, lucky I had only one floppy cable with the correct edge connector for 5.25 drives.

[honest moth]

good luck

some might not have survived. (i should know...still hurts.)

[static flare]

I need to figure out how to wire up the floppy drive I have

[honest moth]

https://www.amazon.com/KOOBOOK-1-44MB-Floppy-Connector-Adapter/dp/B07WCRF9H3/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=floppy+drive+to+usb+adapter&qid=1640012855&sr=8-4 @static flare

Worked for me

however, I would be prepared to return it if it doesn't work for some reason. Reviews are mixed, but 4 stars is solid I would say.

[static flare]

nono, i meant to my pico haha

[honest moth]

aaaaahhhhh, my mistake

[lusty fossil]

anyone with an iPad know if it's possible to search thru your apps?

Seems like it should be but it's not an intuitive feature to me

[raw jasper]

You can search inside apps that are enabled for Siri & Search in settings, and only the content that is exposed to search at that

[lusty fossil]

I meant search app titles. Like search for my Gmail app

[raw jasper]

On iPhone you can do that from the search menu

[lusty fossil]

Hmm

Where is the search menu on the ipad?

[raw jasper]

On iPhone, it can be accessed by swiping to the left from the notification center

[lusty fossil]

Hmmmm not on iPad

It can't just be missing from iPadOS

[raw jasper]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201285

[lusty fossil]

If it is it's a glaring oversight

[raw jasper]

Swipe down from the middle of the Home screen.

TIL there's another gesture

Perhaps this will work for you?

[umbral phoenix]

swipe down in the middle of the screen

[lusty fossil]

Swiping down from the top middle brings me to the lock screen

[umbral phoenix]

middle middle

[lusty fossil]

Ahhhhhh

Just got it

Weird ok. Thank you both!

[umbral phoenix]

Apple used to have a design guideline that all choices had to be always visible, no modes

now we have to remember stuff

consumer technology is powerful, but it's too complex

[lusty fossil]

I am considering getting an iPhone for my next phone. It depends on how easy it will be to migrate my Android data over.

I want to be a blue box in my group messages lol

[tardy badger]

There is an android transfer app that makes it pretty seamless

[lusty fossil]

nice

I'm trying to extricate myself from Google. I feel like Apple is kind of the lesser of two evils

[stray wind]

Hah I went the other way in 2015 and haven't looked back. 😄

[blissful roost]

Yes, Apple is the lesser of two capables. 😆

[lusty fossil]

lol

I kicked a hornet's nest

[raw jasper]

Just know that it could be harder to transition back to android if you change your mind

Especially if you buy some apple specific products, such as apps from the AppStore, Apple Books etc

[stray wind]

Nah, I'm not overly fond of either. Worked for Apple for 3 years, a decade and a half ago. That's how I ended up in their mobile ecosystem to begin with. Never really got as entrenched in it as I could have; stuck with Google for most of my cloud stuff, so transferring was pretty easy for me.

[blissful roost]

I have a friend who worked in support for Apple B2B....
He said it's the worst company he's ever been with.

... I can only use GoDaddy for comparison. Lol

[honest moth]

i regret never using onedrive to store my vm's and utilities until now.

sweats nervously in failing SSD

[raw jasper]

Please image it ASAP

You will save yourself much grief and suffering

[honest moth]

to where???

the best hardware I have for holding 120 GB's of data is a 500 GB HDD

[raw jasper]

Image it to there, it is better than nowhere 🙂

[harsh goblet]

Mee mee

[honest moth]

are kingston ssd temperature warnings anything to worry about? got this SSD from a friend and I am using it to temporarily house a Virtual Machine...to eventually find a way to move it off the PC and onto OneDrive

everything else looks fine, however, Ubuntu says that the drive is likely to fail soon. Windows says a different story, and the drive checker tool I have says a different story from the other two.

I currently have a 12V CPU fan wired up and "mounted" on top of it

HOLY COW, THE EXPORT IS WORKING!!

GO BABY GO!!

[honest moth]

34% and counting.

...the cpu is not happy.

[lusty fossil]

Generally we're not supposed to evade the censor like this

[tardy badger]

Yeah

[honest moth]

oh, my mistake

[lusty fossil]

I'm not offended or anything, just a heads up

[honest moth]

I appreciate the head's-up.

[lusty fossil]

:)

[honest moth]

43% and counting.

[honest moth]

is it bad that I've had floppies transfer at faster rates than the SSD I'm working with right now?

[lusty fossil]

Isn't the HDD the bottleneck?

[raw jasper]

Or the SSD has bad blocks 🤷

[static flare]

today i learned SSDs are available with the IDE interface

[honest moth]

...transfer status report: critical error.

Wing 1 of the Lab and Storage Locker 1 remains functional, though transference might not be.

welp, plan b: deregister the vm and move everything manually.

[whole ether]

lena's complicated machine, a 2015 movie about a young neuroscientist downloading her dead partner's brain to a software program. nice freaks from new york.

[honest moth]

Cool concept in theory, not so much when using real-life principles.

From what I have researched, how this would work in real life is through writing the code to mimic what their partner would be like, considering that dead braincells don't give off electrical charge. To add on to this, technology that adapts to nerves and neural networks is still in the prototype stages. EEG-based prosthetics function by translating electric pulses given off from the brain and through the nerves, to create prosthetic movement via micro-controller translating said pulses into movement depending on the intensity of each pulse.

and EEG-based prosthetics are just one of the many types that have been developed so far.

[orchid zephyr]

Desperate times call for desperate measures (I don’t play cello anymore)

[lusty fossil]

I've yet to try a restaurant in my town that knows how to cook tofu

It's just unseasoned lumps with one side burnt, most of the time

[hasty wedge]

wanna do a crazy project

Replace the eyes of this dollfie with LCD display

Just like a Furby Connect

And put a bluefruit or a feather in her head to control the LCD

[lusty fossil]

And I thought my enclosures were expensive!

[hasty wedge]

What is your enclosure

[lusty fossil]

One sec

https://www.polycase.com/wq-80

[hasty wedge]

That's very close

[lusty fossil]

480 is a decent jump up but they are in the same ballpark

[hasty wedge]

I don't have a plan after the LCD installation

Maybe switch out the feather for a pi 4

And run Alexa on it?

[lusty fossil]

If you can find one!

[hasty wedge]

I have 2 pi4s

And one pi3

[lusty fossil]

I have 5 3 A+s and a 3 B+

[hasty wedge]

Oh my

I don't have any A model

[lusty fossil]

I got the A because it was cheaper but that was dumb

Because I need the space and the USB ports

[hasty wedge]

Imagine running Alexa on this thing (she's 50cm tall)

With glowing LCD eyes

Or run DOOM

Your dollfie is cute, but can it run doom?

[unkempt nimbus]

or can it rickroll you??

[hasty wedge]

It will be able to do anything a pi 4 can do

Most expensive pi case achievement

[fading hare]

Most importantly, can your dollfie scan wifi networks and perform MITM attacks while winking at you?

[honest moth]

overheat protection works...

bad time to figure that out

losses were minimal however. i have a new problem now

how do you fix dislocated shoulder blade?

i'm no joking. please. how do I fix it?

[lusty fossil]

Doctor

[honest moth]

not at this hour

[lusty fossil]

I don't think anyone here is qualified to help

[honest moth]

F(*_(#&%

this sucks

this sucks so bloody much

[crystal ore]

All I know is how people fix them in action movies, which is probably 100% not medically realistic...

[fading hare]

Which direction did you dislocate it? forward/backwards, or like left/right?

Also, if you're like < 30 years, you can probably put it back in the socket with how you fix them in action movies, like Ed said. If you're older, do not try it. You'll most likely damage your bones. Basically, smash it into a door frame. Been there, done that. What's medically realistic is probably some "doctor" hovering over you for exactly 10 seconds, coming up with some random diagnosis, and then rushing off to whatever other patients they have. Depending on where you are in the world, the doctor may just order you to be bled, with leeches. Because, that's exactly how far the medical field has come (other than imaging technology) when it comes to trying to figure out what's wrong with someone.

Yeah, I am jaded. But, we're talking about an entire "science" that puts more effort into not being held accountable for their mistakes than actually trying to fix people. Any industry I've ever worked in (no medical, no fin, no gov) have had pretty strict rules when it comes to accountability. You accidentally drop the production database at peak time? Yeah, you're going down in flames. But, we're not going to fire you, because people make mistakes. We'll fix it together.

[honest moth]

im just goig to let it go limp for now in a position THAT DOESN'T FLIPPIN HURT LIKE HE77.

so far it's working.

ice pack too

gaming chair

[fading hare]

However, we (as software and hardware engineers) don't accidentally puncture someone's kidney, leaving them with massive kidney stones and a catheter for 3 months while they wait to heal from the intern that broke their internals, and then tell them basically that, hey, stuff happens.

[honest moth]

right

[fading hare]

And when you mention anything about the damage, and that you will seek some kind of recompense, they will basically kick you out and leave you for dead. The US medical system is a dystopian he11scape.

Hey, that's it for now. I am done. I promise. I am a good patriot. I love the US. Yeah. Please don't call Homeland Security on me. I know my knots, flags, and random phrases from the constitution, just like any good American would. Also, I am definitely learning how to land that plane. 😉

[honest moth]

probably why we are developing new prosthetics so quickly; to replace parts of the human body.

[fading hare]

Parts that our medical "professionals" have ignored into oblivion because it doesn't fit their already flawed model.

[honest moth]

exactly

[fading hare]

No, you can't have a heart attack at 26. As a woman. Or whatever. It's so dumb. If i tried to pull that crap off as a software engineer people would laugh at me and ask what the heck is wrong with me. But, we let "doctors" do it to us, every day of the week. Because, they're so smart, and so professional.

OK, fine. I wasn't entirely done. But, now I am.

[honest moth]

it's fine. in my opinion, it's normal to talk about what is wrong with the world.

heheheheh

[fading hare]

All it really takes is a minimal human connection and sympathy and you will go from not knowing what is wrong with you to a nurse doing a double-take and noticing that your T-waves are upside down, even though you are not presenting any other symptoms of arrhythmia or a heart attack (no enzymes, for instance).

But, the fact that I've gone through several different tests in the past, and nobody caught it, that speaks volumes. Because those inverted T-waves have been there since 2015 or so. They just didn't care, I guess.

The only parts of medical care that have evolved since the renaissance are those that are lucrative. Hip/knee/heart/shoulder replacements. Facial reconstruction. Implants. Vaccines. Anti-viral drugs, and the viruses that will enable you to profit from the "cures" you produced. It's too much 1984/Brazil/Johnny Mnemonic for my taste. Insurance companies and third party vendors racketeering drug prices and the price of medical devices and assistance such as chairs thousands of percent past what they would normally cost. Why has there never been a RICO case against the insurance companies that profit from our misery?

Sorry, fixed my incorrect reference to Santiago (which is an amazing novel) to Brazil, which is the original "I'm a man, not a number!" movie.

[honest moth]

Because nobody listens. Nobody observes the biggest wrongdoings such as this until they too are wrapped up in it, always refusing to pay attention until they have to deal with it as well. It's rare you find a good doctor that you are friends with, which makes it an absolute travesty when they leave. I'm lucky that they came back, but I wish that everyone had a doctor that knew what in blazes they were doing, and a doctor that actually listens, pays attention, and knows what to do, what to recommend, and how to do so.

Everyone is wrapped up in the numbers, never the patient.

[fading hare]

I can get massive amounts of benzodiazepines for cents, but my wife's diabetes drugs cost THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS per month. You see where I am going with that one. Killing people is way more profitable than fixing them.

I did find that doctor (actually an NP) and I am never letting go. She's smart as a whip, brooks no nonsense, and calls me out when I am being a paranoid crazy person. However, if I tell her about symptoms, she will take me seriously, and if there's something there, I am referred to a specialist in a heartbeat.

[honest moth]

that is awesome

...im sorry for your wife, i can only imagine what that feels like.

[fading hare]

It's OK. We've got good insurance, so she doesn't have to pay that much. But, if I lost my job, that would be bad.

[honest moth]

but i heavily relate to the costs of treatment. bit of a curveball, but my brother is trans and he takes special medication because of that...rather, he used to. because of the thing that worked being "too expensive" according to our provider, he swapped to a gel that is less effective and we frequently deal with the side-effects because of that.

[fading hare]

Ouch. That's rough as well. Especially since that's deeply anchored in mental well-fare.

[honest moth]

aye

[fading hare]

(Diabetes) And all this does not even account for the massive amount of underprivileged poor people in this country that are having limbs amputated because nobody cares about the entirely obvious, and totally preventable symptoms they are presenting. But, then again, such is the lot of Black folks in this country.

[honest moth]

i still can't flipping believe that...welp, there's another reason for the prosthetics.

[fading hare]

yeah, it's nuts

lemme see if I can find the article about this doc in the south that basically went pro bono and dedicated his entire practice to preventing amputations among diabetes patients...