general-chat

[tardy badger]

Yuuup

[tame cypress]

That was a joke I know it's a youtube glitch bit I found it funny

[wooden schooner]

it's not a big deal at all in my case, I'm just trying to schedule a DMV appointment that uses it

[hasty wedge]

Seems like Texas Instruments closed their registration system

for some reason

[novel oar]

ISO of someone to assist me in programming on several projects I have been trying to complete. I feel I am over my head right now. Current projects are

1. an iRacing administrator controller using Neotellis and MakeCode

2. a Volume controller using a QT Py board and 2C QT Rotary Encoders using Arduino and connecting to a client called DEEJ

3. Much more rattling around in my head

[tardy badger]

https://adafruit.com/jobs

[lusty fossil]

Man my local pharmacy is feeling the labor crunch. No one's answering the phones and my prescriptions haven't been delivered today, 3 days (next business day) after I ordered them. I can't pick it up because I'm waiting on covid test results. It's a bummer, they are nice folks. Wouldn't want to work there right now.

[wooden schooner]

I have an NVMe SSD enclosure with a USB-C port. Am I correct that pretty much no SSD inside there is going to need extra cooling apparatus because the loads that create that kind of heat only happen at data transfer speeds higher than USB can support?

[fading hare]

Speaking about shipping things from US to NZ and struck a tangential point with shipping costs and the shipping industry being affected by COVID... So, now I intended to present you with some scenarios...

I've done it [have someone mail me a bunch of smaller orders domestically, and then I ship one big box] before for friends in Sweden. Admittedly, that was before every shipping company on the planet decided that [insert job of person that never sees other people] can't come to work because of COVID. It's like, truckers. When do they ever really have to come closer than 6 feet to anyone?

[lusty fossil]

@fading hare I've been to Sweden. In the summer. I don't think I could handle the winters. I don't think I could handle being any further from the equator than I currently am, if I'm being honest.

Sweden was quite nice in the summer. Maybe when I'm one of the idle rich I'll summer there.

[fading hare]

The winters are pretty mild in Sweden.

[lusty fossil]

I get cold below 60F

65 tbh

[fading hare]

I am the exact opposite. I overheat if it's above 72.

But, yeah, winters in Sweden (obviously vary depending on your distance to the north pole) but they tend to be pretty mellow, in comparison to a lot of the northern states in the US.

[lusty fossil]

I'm a dry heat person. I don't want to live near family so I'll wait until they all die, but eventually I'll live in the American Southwest and collect geckos or whatever they do

[fading hare]

You'll see temps might hit -10'C if it's really cold, and that's like... 22'F?

Not even minus F.

[lusty fossil]

Ahhhhh nooooo, just thinking about -10C is making me sad

I don't like warming up by putting on clothes, I prefer to be hot than to be cold, to a great degree

[fading hare]

This is my hometown:
https://www.wunderground.com/weather/se/ljungby

[lusty fossil]

It seems so weird that they thought it was appropriate to name their site after a terrorist group. TBF a mild terrorist group, but still terrorists.

[fading hare]

funny part is, this is the weather in Charlotte, NC right now

it's going to be colder here than it was in my hometown in Sweden

sure, it does fluctuate with the distance to the air/water streams that bring warmer water up towards Scandinavia. When I was a kid we had glorious winters. These days? They're lucky if they see snow for a few days.

[lusty fossil]

Remind me of the PNW

glad I'm out of there

[fading hare]

but without all the humidity

that's what makes the PNW such a miserable place (in my opinion)

[lusty fossil]

In the summer. The air is dry in Oregon in the winter. It's just snowy as all get out

[fading hare]

Oregon is amazing.

I was in Bend for a week, visiting a friend. Drove my new truck out there from UT when we were visiting my wife's family.

We actually ended up getting the truck in SLC because I had driven my Hyundai Tucson out there (it was mid-pandemic) instead of flying, so I was driving back home in one configuration or another. I was talking trucks with someone in her family. I said I had looked at Tacomas but they were just super overpriced for what you get. He looks at me like I sprouted two heads and barks out "you know I work for Ford, right? Have you even seen the new Rangers?!" So, I ended up getting my dream truck that wasn't a Tacoma, I just didn't know that the new Rangers were so handsome.

[lusty fossil]

I want an f150 lightning but I don't have near 6 figures to blow on a vehicle

[fading hare]

I wanted a Ranger Raptor, but yeah, same same.

Since they're so scarce the dealerships basically sell to the highest bidder.

[lusty fossil]

Yeah trucks are nuts. I basically want an electric vehicle or a plug in hybrid at the very least. It would be nice to also not need to rent a truck when I want to haul wood somewhere

[fading hare]

Why electric?

Please don't say "for the environment."

[wooden schooner]

Please elaborate

[fading hare]

in about... 25 years, all those batteries that are in that Tesla... they're going to have to go somewhere... they don't just... disappear, like bananas on a hike.

[wooden schooner]

How do they justify it

[fading hare]

processing those batteries will cost way more in carbon emissions than me driving a gas powered truck

I haven't seen them justify it. They don't really talk about what happens to your vehicle in the end.

[wooden schooner]

What does processing mean? And, if it costs money, then what will make people do it instead of throwing the batteries in a landfill?

[fading hare]

Processing means you can't just chuck the entire battery pack because it consists of nested arrays of 18650 batteries that are wired up in some fancy way to extend the amount of cycles/depletion/whatever. So you have to take the pack off of the vehicle. Take it apart. Take out all the little batteries. Git rid of any wrappings or whatever else, and then do something with that raw material. Which is... super bad for the planet.

[lusty fossil]

Gas prices and I suspect we'll solve the battery problem before too long. There's going to be a lot of governmental pressure to do so

Where I live, most power is renewable. I can't get solar because of tree cover but we have other sources. So I wouldn't be refueling with dirty power.

[fading hare]

Yeah, so that's going to fix it for 1% of the population.

What about the rest of the plebs? They just gonna walk?

[wooden schooner]

What do you mean by "can't"

[fading hare]

well, ALL batteries technically go in the OCEAN

[wooden schooner]

I am not trying to play dumb

[fading hare]

Ideals are lofty and adorable, but, real world application on a nationwide level for at least a hundred million drivers, that's something entirely different. The price of a Tesla is currently what... $60k or something?

Or, is the environment only important for the rich silicon valley yuppies that can afford a Tesla?

[wooden schooner]

I am saying, why do you think the batteries are going to be processed at all rather than just thrown in landfills

This is independent of how bad Tesla is

[fading hare]

(And let's get straight, I can definitely afford a Tesla, in case you were to steer towards envy)

@wooden schooner well, that strengthens my point then

landfills are even worse

[wooden schooner]

No it doesn't

[fading hare]

you ever heard of coal ash?

[lusty fossil]

BEV prices are coming down across the board. It won't be too long before middle class folks can justify one.

[wooden schooner]

It's a question, for my own understanding

[fading hare]

or you're leading me on, because I am not very intelligent, either way, I am down

[lusty fossil]

I suspect there will be a period of time where we dispose of them improperly, but a series of whistleblowers will force us to do better

[fading hare]

so, look up coal ash

[lusty fossil]

I'm aware

[fading hare]

And tell me that you can guarantee that the landfill will contain those heavy metals and whatever for eternity and that's cool. I'm on board. We were talking about the environment, right? You know, the same one that will be here for our children and their children...

They'd have to use something like concrete or similar, to line that fill with, well, they're more likely just underground storage facilities

[wooden schooner]

It is bad. Sounds like you're not interested in answering my question though

[fading hare]

I am definitely interested in talking about this topic. I can't give you answers, though. You should see your priest for those.

[lusty fossil]

my friend is an environmental engineer. Landfills can be remediated.

works for tesla actually

or will soon

[fading hare]

yeah, after half of Flint, MI dies... but, hey, just some poor Black folks, so no loss

[lusty fossil]

The lead crisis in flint is unrelated to disposal of batteries or any other waste and is mostly a story of corruption in local government

state and local

[fading hare]

So you can guarantee that Tesla and all its vendors and subsidiaries will somehow be more ethical about the disposal of their batteries? If not, then like I said, the environmental motivation for getting an EV over a gas truck is to me, just something I am passing the buck on for 25 years.

[lusty fossil]

the truth is, we spent a century making our cities impossible to live in if you don't drive. Redlining/suburbia made this worse. It's the mess we're in. It's also true that continuing to use ICE cars is going to contribute to the death of our biosphere. We have to transition off of ICE.

I would suggest that it's the government's job to make tesla et. al act sustainably.

[fading hare]

The government will do no such thing, all the regulating bodies are bought and paid for... maybe if we made lobbying illegal, and made sure that people can't "leave" the private sector to go be the chairman of the FCC or something. Massive conflict of interest there, especially since there's nothing that prevents "lobbyists" from "influencing" said chairman.

[lusty fossil]

whether that will happen is anyone's guess, but we cannot afford to not try. You can't affect the environment without affecting the environment. Solar panels and wind turbines have a carbon footprint as well, but we can't just stick with coal and oil because there are issues with renewables.

[fading hare]

You are correct. We are moving in the right direction.

[lusty fossil]

All our children will curse us if we skip out on the BEV revolution because we weren't solid on where we would put the waste yet. I'd argue they deserve to curse us now for slowing down on nuclear power.

[fading hare]

I'm just being real about the whole problem. If people want to think that they are saving the environment by buying a Tesla, cool. The reality is vastly more complicated, and they may actually end up with an even larger load of CO2 Karma.

[lusty fossil]

well now I'm in a bad mood because I accidentally ordered a 3' USBC cable when I need 6'

[fading hare]

I agree, see, that's why I like talking about these things. Someone usually has a brighter version of whatever my broken brain has decided to be cynical about.

[lusty fossil]

Gonna have to go through the whole rigamarole of returning it AND wait for the right one to come

[fading hare]

order from Amazon next time

[lusty fossil]

I guess I can go to Worst Buy when my (hopefully) negative covid test comes in

Oh I did order from amazon

But returning involves a whole thing

[fading hare]

half of the time they'll refund you right away and credit your account, or send a whole new cable out and you get to keep the other one

[lusty fossil]

They actually did a good job last time. I goofed and sent two too small belts back in one package instead of 2. They figured it out on their end though and credited me for both

[fading hare]

returning is pretty easy these days... the dropoff locations are easy to get to, you don't need to box anything, it's just like... [toss crap you didn't want at some poorly paid clerk and walk off]

[lusty fossil]

I have to go to a store like someone from the freakin 90s

[fading hare]

They've never done me wrong either.

Man, I miss the 90s.

[lusty fossil]

Jeff Bezos' very public midlife crisis while his ex gives all their money away has been blissful though

[fading hare]

I couldn't care less about Jeff Bezos. He's a mythical creature, something I will never attain or tangent, so if he got disappeared today, a puppet account could keep him alive for the next 500 years and I would never have noticed.

But, it has been kind of fun. And, not just Bezos! Melinda Gates.

[lusty fossil]

Oh yeah she's flourishing too I think

[fading hare]

She's laying down a hurtin' on old Bill.

[lusty fossil]

Good to see these women who put up with these godawful men get away

[fading hare]

he cheated on her, and she just did the right thing and went straight for his wallet

[lusty fossil]

now she did try to argue that we "need billionaires" so she gets limited praise from me

It's more the being in opposition to Bill that I approve of

[fading hare]

probably not a lot of yelling, she probably just quietly contacted her lawyers and drew up papers and preserved condemning evidence for the court appearance, and yeah, half of MANY DOLLARS were hers. She didn't even have to short Gamestop stock.

well, if you actually look at how much money, well spent, she has funneled into charities, where it matters, she's got a pretty strong track record of not messing about... she doesn't just throw her money away to cook the tax books, she actually does good things... so, in a way, maybe we do need billionaires

the other option, "everyone being equal" has failed in several different matrix simulations, like we all know (hint, Russia) so I dunno... it's a flawed, but somewhat working system... except for the massive wage gaps... it's like. people make $15/hour working at McDonalds, and someone like Musk launches a freakin car into space for the LULZ.

and there's a long string of gunshots, pardon me, that was super close

can't see anything... must have been a street over...

not even sure we'll last 25 years if people keep shooting each other basically every other day...

just hoping none of those bullets hit a bystander, or some kid in their bed... because drive-bys are the worst

And it's gotten progressively worse since COVID. These people can't afford EVs. They got laid off from whatever normal job they had in the restaurant industry or any of the in-person service jobs that were completely eradicated in 2020. Sure, we can drive our Teslas to the garage and take the Boosted Board to the office and snicker in their direction and tell them to learn how to code...

There's the Citizen report. Five gunshots heard? Uh, no. That was 15-20, and then another five.

Yeah. 900 feet away from where I live.

[crystal ore]

20? Ouch. Multiple weapons or a big magazine...

[fading hare]

I mean, a Glock has like... 15-17

[crystal ore]

Interesting, didn't realize that.

[fading hare]

OK, others also confirmed they heard the same cadence/amount of shots. I called 911 just to let them know it wasn't 5 shots. I drive past that house almost every day.

but, I think it was two different weapons, they sounded differently, the first one was very steady, definitely not auto, and then the last 5 sounded different, so perhaps someone else fired, or someone returned fire...

[real falcon]

😦

[fading hare]

yeah, no going to bed for me for a little bit

900 feet is what, 300 meters?

We need more cats. I am going to post cats now. Cats that are cute. Cuddly cats. Animated cats. Funny cats. Ugly cats. Sad cats. Grumpy cats. Naked cats. Hairy cats.

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-cute-cat-wholesome-kitten-gif-18210402

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-cute-cat-cute-punch-gif-18955373

https://tenor.com/view/cat-broken-cat-cat-drinking-cat-licking-cat-air-gif-20661740

these are the derps we live with

we had a cat that would drink like that... he'd stick his head under the faucet, then drink the splatter by flicking his tongue out

[drowsy zephyr]

guys, does anyone know any international scholarships that provides both tuition fees and living expenses?

[heady spire]

A EU based alternative to Tindie launched today, will be interesting to see how it does https://www.lectronz.com/blog_entries/1

[hasty wedge]

any one know the N76E003AT20?

It's an 1T 8051 microcontroller

if sb ports seesaw to that thing, we'll never need to worry about not being able to get seesaw chips

[blissful roost]

And roundabout chips?

[hasty wedge]

It's also crazy cheap with massive stock

0.48 USD each

[blissful roost]

Sorry. 😁

[fading hare]

they're one isle over, next to the swing set chips

[hasty wedge]

adafruit should give 8051 some love

They're still readily available in this silicon crisis

and even big US company like TI use them in their CC wireless controllers

[blissful roost]

Just like the blasted supermarket.... Always moving stuff around. 😠

[hasty wedge]

Also, nuvoton is not really a small company, you can see their IO chips on all sorts of high end computer motherboards like ASUS

[fading hare]

that's a good idea, what's the footprint of that chip compared to what they have now?

[hasty wedge]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/nuvoton-technology-corporation-of-america/N76E003AQ20/8747840

QFN20 available for order on Digikey

24K of flash, and 1K of RAM

You can use KEIL C51 or the open source SDCC compiler

[idle iron]

i have an old temperature sensor i bought a few years ago, its tiny and surface mount, no clue what the pinouts are or even what it is... is there a way to figure out the pinouts with a multimeter?

looks like it has Y700 K2RW on the back but google search came up with nothing

[hasty wedge]

Oh, almost forgot, nuvoton also got a M0 line which are also accessible and inexpensive in this silicon crisis

like their M031TD2AE with 48Mhz M0 core, 64K flash 8K ram

0.99 usd each

[late fulcrum]

That looks like an optical sensor of some sort

[lusty fossil]

Man everywhere is short staffed. I'm gonna have to physically go in to my doctor's office to get my covid results because no one is answering the phone.

Double mask gang represent

[fading hare]

Stay safe.

[hasty wedge]

and get a pair of goggles

[lusty fossil]

I'm less concerned about getting it since cases are mild for triple vaccinated people. More on the very unlikely chance that I have it and spread it.

[fading hare]

Go full steampunk plague doctor style

[hasty wedge]

Chinese doctor style

[fading hare]

that's even scarier

[hasty wedge]

yeah

[fading hare]

the weird bird/snout plague doctor masks weird me out

They're like creepy phantom of the opera penguins or something.

[hasty wedge]

add NeoPixel rings to it!

[fading hare]

I have a leather top hat and some goggles with red lenses, the thought has crossed my mind to add some... flair to it

but yeah, I mean, if you have a bunch of CBRN suits laying around, go full Chinese doctor...

[hasty wedge]

Also, just ordered a full tube of nuvoton's 8051 (74 pcs)

for one of my projects

costs me 30-ish bucks

[fading hare]

nice!

[lusty fossil]

My sister is a resident but had managed to mostly avoid covid duties the whole pandemic

I'm very happy for her. Mostly just serving vets at the VA

[hasty wedge]

for me, I just combat covid with vaccines and masks

[lusty fossil]

And masking

[hasty wedge]

just got my third pfizer

[lusty fossil]

And canceling plans

[hasty wedge]

yup!

[lusty fossil]

I'm gonna miss a bunch of movies over the next few months

[hasty wedge]

netflix and disney plus will be your friend

[lusty fossil]

Yup. I'm rewatching the bad batch at.

Atm

[hasty wedge]

Isn't it just nice to know how to program a 8051 in 2022?

you'll never run out of microcontrollers

[fading hare]

To be honest, COVID has broken my brain pretty hard. I dunno, I was fine for a while, but now, two years in, I live life on the internet. And, I am pretty sure I upset several people on this Discord. And, if they ever read this: I apologize for being an oaf and a crazy person. Or, if you know them, feel free to pass this message on.

[hasty wedge]

same for me

[lusty fossil]

Just FYI that word that ends in "az" is a pretty bad insult in some parts of the world.

[fading hare]

oh snap

fixed

[lusty fossil]

In the US it's fine but in the UK it's a very very rude way to refer to someone with developmental disabilities.

I only know because on a arduino forum I saw someone get not so gently corrected about it.

[fading hare]

thanks for the heads up

[lusty fossil]

Np

Ah the bad batch is so good! I can't wait for more

[idle iron]

@late fulcrum i think your right, looks like "VEML7700"

[late fulcrum]

I have one I never did figure out

[fading hare]

that right there is a marvel... looks like a robot dragon fly got caught in a piece of amber... and @late fulcrum is about to revive the mechasaurus.

[idle iron]

optical sensors are pretty cool, i wish other stuff came in that clear, like MCUs

[burnt tendon]

There's a story about a prototype chip, fresh from the fab, and they had just finished wiring it up to the test harness... and then someone comes in with a camera and a flash and the puls of light on the exposed chip was enough to fry it for good.

I can't find it, but I did find this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/09/raspberry-pi-2-camera-flash-power-off

Let's just say that the transparent package comes with clear disadvantages.

[late fulcrum]

Close-up of the die

Clear transistors are fun too

[wild temple]

that looks like a map of a pyramid, made entirely with gold

[fading hare]

It's beautiful.

[idle iron]

i always thought gold was more conductive but looks like it goes 1st silver 2nd coper 3rd gold, i guess gold is just best at resisting corrosion?

[real falcon]

extreme resistance.

silver can evenually tarash, copper can rust

[idle iron]

im surprised aluminum is better then iron

[real falcon]

theres gold coins thats been in sea for long time that still is shiny gold

[fading hare]

OK. So, this is weird. Anyone ever have any issues with Snap applications, specifically Discord and Spotify, causing xHCI and USB to bomb out? It completely kills my USB switch which has keyboard/mouse/sound... so I am wondering, could it be my external sound card/DAC?

[fading hare]

copper verdigris is so beautiful

(that's digital art, but you get the idea)

[dusk oracle]

having some Mandelbrot fun there

[real falcon]

lol nice

[fading hare]

yup

[hasty wedge]

mandelbrot

A nice way to benchmark your MCU

[dusk oracle]

i usually benchmark using raycaster

lil fps i have been working on for mcu's

[late fulcrum]

Aluminum is more reactive than iron, but its oxide is hard, so it quickly forms a layer of protective oxide and then the process of oxidation is blocked. Iron, on the other hand, has a softer, more permeable oxide, so a layer of oxide is non protective, and the oxidation process continues.

[fading hare]

Laying down some wisdom. I feel like if I just watch the things you write, I will be a cyberpunk blacksmith electronics wizard in no time.

[umbral phoenix]

what does "Snap applications" mean?

(websearch yields several possibilities; fortunately Discord isn't owned by Snap Inc)

[burnt tendon]

Snap is the Ubuntu container-ish app thingie.

I suck therefore I still run Windows on my desktop. To be fair, I purchased it well before they invented the idea of a year that would be The Year Of Linux On The Desktop with web design earnings so it's therefore OK.

[wooden schooner]

i.m.o , snap is bad and is a sign that it will be time to leave Ubuntu soon/now

Not interested in being a passenger to Canonical's attempts to mimic big tech's current monetization strategies

[wary herald]

😉

[wary herald]

That was kinda funny tho

[wary herald]

[wary herald]

I know.... so sad I won't be watching No Way Home in theaters

[wary herald]

I wanna be a cyberpunk blacksmith wizard too.....

[wary herald]

I sorta like it, but I think it's meant for peeps coming from Windoze to feel comfortable

[wary herald]

Omega's accent is kinda weird tho

Sorry for the spam of messages, just getting caught up

[wooden schooner]

It's not the software itself I have a problem with, it's the company direction of Canonical

[fading hare]

They're working so hard at process isolation and whatever that they've failed to protect the host from snap containers crashing and breaking the host.

Whatever, though. Just another attack vector introduced by people that pretend to care about security and privacy.

[burnt tendon]

Basically, if you get into a long conversation with anyone who has worked at Canonical within the past decade, well... oh my.

[hasty wedge]

I am using ubuntu as my daily OS

and the first thing after I installed every single ubuntu copy for myself

is

you guessed it

remove snap

[wary herald]

Got it

[wary herald]

hehe

[hasty wedge]

snap is just Canonical trying to be apple

[wary herald]

[hasty wedge]

building a closed software repository that only they have full control

If Canonical decided to convert more system components to snap

I will be more than happy to switch to arch

[wary herald]

There goes Ubuntu

I'm on Windows RN

[hasty wedge]

The major reason why I am using ubuntu

is because RP2040 SDK

and while using ubuntu

I have this running all the time

[blissful roost]

Glad Mint doesn't ship with snap support.

[wooden schooner]

Afaik, this is essentially why Mint exists

[blissful roost]

Kinda... But long before this ||****|| with snap.

[wild temple]

im glad mint doesn't have snap

mint is the always-updated debian, basically, and a sprinkle of cinnamon

[wooden schooner]

Yep. They formed because Ubuntu was going off the rails. The pattern continued, and Ubuntu is now on the verge of glitching through the ground plane.

[wild temple]

ubuntu used to be good and innovative

now, it's just meh at best

[blissful roost]

Nubuntu

[wooden schooner]

Canonical should acquire Snapple just to get rights to the name

Vertically integrate their microkitchens, or whatnot

[harsh goblet]

@round dagger I had a question about the keyboard you shared in #show-and-tell. What language did you program it with?

[round dagger]

@harsh goblet C.P. good sir

the

KMK lib on git

here you go

[harsh goblet]

Very nice! Pretty easy to do?

[round dagger]

kinda it was my first porjet in CP

project

im vary new to coding

[harsh goblet]

Well nice! It looks excellent.

How many pins did you end up using for all the switches?

[round dagger]

10x5 so 15 pins on the pico

it has gat milk reds from 1upkeyboards 13$ shipped for 48 of them

[harsh goblet]

Nice. I bet it feels great

[round dagger]

wood base kryotox 205G0 lubed im a keeb nerd lol.

heres the pcb gerber

[harsh goblet]

I'd sure like to try a split some day. I'm working on a nibble right now with a Kb2040

[harsh goblet]

Do you have a github?

[round dagger]

jlc pcb

i do

[harsh goblet]

This would be en excellent project to put on there if you haven't yet

The RP2040 needs more keyboards examples I think 😄

[round dagger]

https://github.com/roykos4114

just did thank you

https://github.com/roykos4114/DIY-KEEBS ill add more later today.

[hasty wedge]

Does CP2102N have any GPIOs?

[umbral phoenix]

doesn't look like it, but there's always the Seesaw boards, or FT232H or MCP2221A

oh, I take that back, it does look like there are a couple just like the CP2104, but the product page says "CP2104 has RS-485 support and GPIO support, CP2102N does not"

[lusty fossil]

Someone, over night, bought >1k of a MOSFET I just wanted 3 of. Now I have to reconfigure my design. Bummer

[burnt tendon]

I am going upstairs to my MOSFET hoard and telling them all that they are good little MOSFET bois and girlses and I'm glad to have them all in my life.

My sympathies.

Like, I think the problem with Cannonical is that they always have like halfway decent ideas. Make Debian but newer, yay! Make a deployment system for cranking out installs that improves upon Puppet and Chef, yay! Make an easier way to install packages, yay!

But, like, they keep finding ways to take reasonable ideas and just completely fail to implement them well at all.

[wooden schooner]

I don't even know anything technical about Snap. I just know that Canonical is jumping on the "popularize an app store for which you're the middleman" monetization strategy, which sufficient to know it's bad.

@burnt tendon curious to hear your take/synopsis of why any/all of the above mentioned products came out mediocre, if you're up for it

[honest jolt]

Making a GUI to make configuration files for my Raspberry Pi Pico based macropad (Literally just Pimoroni RGB Keypad base) so it doesn't take me 5 minutes to add a new macro lol
Using PyQt5 and Qt Designer instead of Tkinter and it's been going really great so far 😄

[burnt tendon]

Leadership problems. Most folks in the upper management of companies fancy themselves as Steve Jobs-esque figures who can come out with a series of magical innovative products every few years. Most of them aren't, and Steve Jobs was probably mostly just lucky and didn't need to be the jerk he behaved like anyway.

[lusty fossil]

Yup. Fun fact, the original iPhone demo was a carefully choreographed sham. Most of it wasn't working at the time they showed it off

[wooden schooner]

@burnt tendon I'm glad you interpreted the question that way, that answer is more interesting than what I was looking for. I had meant what about any/each of the products is worse than it should be.

[wooden schooner]

I was looking for this to link to
https://www.theonion.com/apple-unveils-new-product-unveiling-product-1819569004

[lusty fossil]

lol

[wooden schooner]

And in the process I found this gem

https://www.theonion.com/apple-unveils-panicked-man-with-no-ideas-1819575555

[burnt tendon]

Yeah, and, like some of the stuff they were promising with Juju and Charms and Snap is now trivially doable with Docker and Kubernetes.

[lusty fossil]

They also had a great video once about apple's new ibook that did away with the keyboard and just had a trackpad.

[wooden schooner]

Hits close to home

[burnt tendon]

Like, they did a demo with Juju and OpenStack and self-healing deployments and a few years later a few of us in the community, myself included, did the same demo with Kubernetes and OpenStack.

It's just that their demo a few years prior was some magical duct-tape-and-bailing-wire done at the last second and it wasn't functional whereas ours was "Here's a working version, albeit beta"

Okay, so it didn't catch on either because OpenStack and stuff but at least our work helped show off Kubernetes when it was still a very new and experimental thing and that it could actually make stuff work in a self-healing cloudy fashion.

This was Kubernetes 1.2-1.3 and when Helm 2.0 was beta.

Kube is now 1.22 or thereabouts and Helm 3 has been out for a while.

[wooden schooner]

I know very little about cloud, and openstack is the only cloud platform I've used 😆 is it dead?

[burnt tendon]

Dono, not really involved anymore. The cool kids who were using OpenStack all moved to Kubernetes and so it still works and does stuff and everything but I dono if it's ever going to be the success the creators intended.

There's literally no competition in the space for it because pretty much everybody realized that orchestrating racks of hypervisors for the purposes of providing a vague analog to AWS was not actually that interesting or lucrative of a problem.

And if you wanted to manage hypervisors and didn't trust AWS, VMWare or Azure was probably less trouble.

OpenStack was kinda hamstrung because some very well-meaning, nice, super-brilliant people made a really poor call in the first year or two in the middle of the night, hyped up on Mondafinil, while listening to Infected Mushroom.

[wooden schooner]

What was that call?

[burnt tendon]

They decided that being written in Python was an essential part of the stack. They also decided that process or thread pooling wasn't performant enough so they needed to use async. They got mad at Twisted Python, which was the leading async framework, and decided that it was too hard for people to understand and therefore they instead went for this weird green-thread implementation that was perpetually flakey. So the code looked simpler but you had to know all of these weird unwritten rules about calling what and where.

I'm not explaining it well, probably.

And then they also went hard on using an SQL database and a message queue to do the sorts of things that kubernetes does using etcd with a lot less drama.

They very much ignored the concerns of the cluster admin and mostly ignored the concerns of the end user and so, while the setup process for kube 1.2 was preetty whack on an absolute scale, it was actually quite reasonable compared to OpenStack's.

Obv solving different problems, but less than you'd think.

[wooden schooner]

where's that Haskell emoji when you need it

[lusty fossil]

I hate, hate, hate misleading headlines. E.g. "It's Always Sunny star Glenn howerton charged with 4 felonies" and then you click in and it's that he revealed he was almost booked for buying a fake ID almost 30 years ago.

We need an addendum to the first amendment that you can't be annoying with it

[dusk oracle]

click bait titles are the bane of the world they lead to people assuming alot

[dusk oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860462509881557044/928567793106948146/IMG-20220106-WA0004.jpeg

this would have been a EZ fix.. then POOF soldering iron went ded

rest in peace my friend

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860462509881557044/928568955025621062/20220106_104039.jpg

[blissful roost]

Rust in pieces. 😔

[dusk oracle]

all i say is, "you can rest now"

[late fulcrum]

I guess you'll need a soldering iron to repair your soldering iron. This soldering iron kit would not help, as you'd need a soldering iron to put it together! https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/10624

[late fulcrum]

IMHO that's what the Go language is for.

[dusk oracle]

that's hilarious

[burnt tendon]

Their timing was poor enough that they did this before Go came out, but then it came out soon enough that porting everything to Go was a tantalizing option never taken.

[dusty citrus]

I exist

[blissful roost]

I do not.

[dusk oracle]

who ever wrote book of bobafet

👌

loving it

if you could see my face you would know, that there is one happy starwars fan

[hasty wedge]

Since this is offtopic

Can I post pixiv art here?

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93798723

Painted this one completely on ubuntu 20.04 with fully open source software

Linux is really my daily drive OS thanks to RP2040 SDK

Which is almost Linux only

[hasty wedge]

https://github.com/OpenNuvoton

nuvoton's github repository

All of their dev boards and SDK are completely open source

They even wrote neat headers for developers to use their MCUs like an Arduino

I don't see a lot of Asian chip designers doing this

[wooden schooner]

What do you use?

[hasty wedge]

Krita

[wooden schooner]

oh nice. I am amazed that project still exists

it's roughly equivalent to Photoshop, right?

[hasty wedge]

not quite

it's more like a lite version of Clip Studio Paint

Or a Pro (but free) version or Paint tool SAI

[wooden schooner]

oh wow it is for digital art. nice

I was going to ask how you were painting in photoshop

how's the learning curve? I've been messing around in MyPaint with my cheapo graphics tablet and have no clue what I'm doing

[hasty wedge]

get a display

something like a wacom contiq

[wooden schooner]

what's the lowest priced decent tablet with a display?

[hasty wedge]

or get a laptop with wacom EMR stylus

[wooden schooner]

if needed, can remove the "decent" requirement

[hasty wedge]

they're not cheap

but worth the price

[wooden schooner]

yeah. My current tablet was $45

[hasty wedge]

[wooden schooner]

bought on the utmost whim, and has paid for itself several times over in enjoyment due to basically good timing

[hasty wedge]

mine is $798

I am mainly using it for blender and zbrush(3D modeling) though

I am not a pro at digital painting either

[wooden schooner]

I guarantee you that your art is at least 798/45 = 17.73 times better than mine

[hasty wedge]

thank you

although I can also draw on my cheapo xp-pen tablet that I brought for osu

[wooden schooner]

like the above piece you linked to is dope. here's an example of my drawing

[hasty wedge]

[wooden schooner]

half of it is me trying the different brushes in mypaint

[hasty wedge]

hey that's not bad

oh yeah for brushes

the one I posted was kinda a challenge

I limited myself to use only 1 brush

[wooden schooner]

for everything?

[hasty wedge]

yeah

[wooden schooner]

the glint in the eyes? the hair?

[hasty wedge]

yeah

[wooden schooner]

that's dedication

[hasty wedge]

Just thought it might be fun

to try that

my brain is still built to draw PCBs

instead of anime girls

[wooden schooner]

LOL

oh here's another favorite

[hasty wedge]

science fair!

[wooden schooner]

I'm definitely gonna check out krita, thanks for the pointer

[hasty wedge]

[wooden schooner]

it appears to have the kitchen sink as one of its dependencies (205mb of KDE packages) but hey, we livin' in the age of 1TB hard drives

[lusty fossil]

You should talk to the poor kids trying to play new CoD games at launch.

Or me when I don't power on my PS4 for 6 months and it needs many gigs of updates to play any game

[hasty wedge]

[idle iron]

I just switched from a si7021 to a sht30, what does the heater do exactly on sht3X?

The SHT3x is equipped with an internal heater, which
is meant for plausibility checking only. The temperature
increase achieved by the heater depends on various
parameters and lies in the range of a few degrees
centigrade. It can be switched on and off by command,
see table below. The status is listed in the status register.
After a reset the heater is disabled (default condition).```
the datasheet says

[lusty fossil]

Dang ep 2 of book of Boba was really good

Outstrips 1 by a wide margin

[blissful roost]

Yeah, for sure.

[lapis bluff]

@idle ironI believe it's basically a tool to allow you to see that all the sensors are working. You apply a small amount of dT and see that the values read out from the sensors changes in a reasonable way. But, I'm not specifically knowledgeable on that device, I'm extrapolating from others I've seen.

[dusk oracle]

ikr, i felt like a was a kid watching starwars for the 1st time

[burnt tendon]

Personally, I drink my boba.

[dusk oracle]

Things i need to save up for:

1. soldering station
2. reflow station
3. power supply
4. tools
5. 3d printer
6. microscope
   If i achieve these goals i can look into setting up a workshop for repairs and start up a maker space in south africa

[idle iron]

maybe look into a kickstarter or something for funds?

[blissful roost]

Anyone looking for spicy RAM?

[brisk spire]

whole room is a WIP (particularly the walls and floors) but wondering if anyone has any suggestions for organization, I think I will build a wire/solder dispenser to put inbetween the parts drawer boxes.

[hasty wedge]

nice setup

[brisk spire]

Thanks 🙂

[dusk oracle]

@brisk spirenice setup.

[brisk spire]

Thank you

Put it together over the summer

Thinking about swapping the computer/worktable configuration, the window means I can't put up shelves for equipment or parts and im not utilizing the wall above the computer area.

[wary herald]

Oh, 100%

I felt like the first one kinda stunk

What's the bad apple in my dataset?

Now it's just cussing at me

hehe

[stoic mesa]

like this?

it didn't occur to me to use Tabasco on RAM...

[blissful roost]

V. Spicy!!

[dusk oracle]

thats some hardcore ram

do the street lights dim when you power on?

[dusty citrus]

240V RAM!! Spicy ho ho!!!

[dusk oracle]

@dusty citrus you a varus main?

[dusty citrus]

Yeah 😄

[dusk oracle]

Good fun

[dusk oracle]

New ghostbusters, was so good.. so good i cried and suddenly i really missed my dad.

[late fulcrum]

That was really well done.

[dusk oracle]

i give the prop engineers a 10

[late fulcrum]

It was weird seeing Tektronix scopes with lights they don't normally have, otherwise I loved the props.

[tidal flare]

Added CircuitPython support for a new board, how do I submit a PR?

[static flare]

It's been a while, y'all! I'm back mostly cause I'm getting to poke around with some new electronics (read: old but new to me) and I wanna share it with like-minded peeps

[spice moss]

james web space telescope fully deployed

[waxen quail]

I want to make a fume extractor with a spare 120mm fan I have from my pc. How could I make it as cheap as possible

[crystal ore]

Stuff a paper-towel tube with Kleenex and duct-tape it to the fan? That'd be pretty cheap, at least, though no idea if it would do a good job... 😅

[wanton thistle]

You should add in a lathe, mill, scraper and drill press to that list. If one was inclined, you can do it gingery style!

[dusk oracle]

truth is this is never happening

i'm 38, disabled and going nowhere, i fix a device once every 3 weeks due to lack of customers

i dont want a handout

or anyone's sympothy

[wanton thistle]

never say never.

[dusk oracle]

if i ever get all those tools

i would make great things

[fair summit]

https://learn.adafruit.com/how-to-add-a-new-board-<to-circuitpython>

[fading hare]

Manjaro KDE. It's what all the cool kids use.

[shadow siren]

KDE-Neon is what the Real cool kids use

[fading hare]

time to get a Weller!

[fading hare]

How does that compare to an iPad Pro with the Apple Pencil?

[umbral phoenix]

||spoilers ;-)||

[fading hare]

||I thought it was pretty trippy with all the sand people and their sea lion honks and boops. In the end, I thought it was just too much, and I felt sort of embarrassed for whatever cultures they ripped off when cobbling together sand people lore. It was like an entire clan of Jar Jar Binxes had descended onto the desert floor, only moments away from turning the whole thing into the Star Wars Holiday Special.||

There.

[umbral phoenix]

lol, thanks 😉

I get on people for spoilers on 50-year old movies too, so don't go by me

[fading hare]

how was that even a spoiler, though? 😄

[umbral phoenix]

Anything can a spoiler, that's why I don't even read reviews. It's a spoiler even to hint that there's a twist, because then you expect a twist.

My strategy: blank slate, then immersion.

[fading hare]

I tend to do the same.

[umbral phoenix]

But yeah, I tend to be on the spoiler pedant end of the spectrum. Wikipedia plot synopses are the other end.

[fading hare]

Just any trailer. Just gives away all the interesting parts about the movie in less than 2 minutes. I don't know if the collective intelligence in the world has diminished that far, or if it's just the people that make trailers that are dumber than boxes of rocks...

[blissful roost]

I'll stick with Mint Cinnamon. 😁

[fading hare]

I used it a bit in the past. I really do like Manjaro KDE. Arch is really nice.

[blissful roost]

Not seen anything else that I fancy using, tbh.

[wooden schooner]

does "TRIAC dimming" here mean "behaves correctly when attached to a TRIAC dimmer"? My understanding is that the triac would be inside the dimmer at the light switch, not inside this driver.

[late fulcrum]

I suppose it could be using phase control dimming internally (I have a power supply that works that way), but I have no way to tell.

[wooden schooner]

given that it advertises itself as "dimmable" and the unit doesn't have any controls or instructions about its own internal dimming, I'm guessing it does indeed want you to use your own dimmer. thanks for the input

[hasty wedge]

you get a bigger screen, and a EMR stylus that does not rely on the capacitive touch screen

That means that you get the same stability when drawing fast and slow

[fading hare]

so, for a layperson that already has an iPad Pro, might as well keep that?

[hasty wedge]

Yes

If you have an iPad

[fading hare]

I do

[hasty wedge]

Don't get a wacom

They feel different

[fading hare]

OK

[hasty wedge]

AES stylus can never achieve the iconic feeling of a EMR stylus

[fading hare]

OK, so tell me about the differences between those two.

[hasty wedge]

AES means it's actively sending signal back to the display via Bluetooth or sth and requires a battery

EMR means the pen is dumb and only passively returning the locating signal that the EMR panel is sending to it, and the panel use that to locate the stylus

EMR stylus does not need a battery

So pro for AES is cheaper display(because it doesn't need a dedicated panel under the LCD) but more expensive pen and lower stability

EMR displays are really expensive but pens are really cheap if you remove the manufacturer mark up

And I think that's all I know

[lusty fossil]

1st world problems: The high setting on my space heater is too high, and the low setting is too low Q_Q

[hasty wedge]

[fading hare]

just don't burn down your building...

[lusty fossil]

I have it on a timer, it can only run 2 hours at a time.

It also has some good safety features

[fading hare]

nice

In other news, I think I forgot the FIDO2 PIN for my security key... FML

and, somehow didn't even have it written down in my safe... lessons have been learned

[hasty wedge]

testing my stream

might stream MSP430 related programming someday

[hasty wedge]

Tested to stream TI CCS

[dusty citrus]

what about additional monitors?

like maybe 2-3 more

you reeally can go wrong with more monitors

[lusty fossil]

unless you mean monitor lizards. Even one is pushing it with those bad boys.

[dusty citrus]

monitor lizards do be lizarding.

[lusty fossil]

they just go CHOMP CHOMP all day

[dusty citrus]

too bad komodo dragons don't breath fire.

[dusty citrus]

thats giving me some eclipse vibes

[hasty wedge]

CCS is based on Eclipse

This is CCS simple mode

Ment for beginners

Which is for me

[dusty citrus]

it looks pretty fully featured to me @hasty wedge

[brisk spire]

ive been looking for an extra monitor or two, for now the ultra-wide is like two 4:3 next to each other so I use it like that... extra monitor just isn't in the budget right now

[lusty fossil]

Anyone ever break a soda/sugar habit? I did the math and if I just cut out soda and candy from my diet, I would lose the weight I want to lose in a month. But I'm kinda hooked.

[crystal ore]

For soda, you might consider switching to diet varieties. Artificial sweeteners have their problems, but so does sugar. For candy, the battle is won or lost at the grocery store... keep it out of your house to start with.

[lusty fossil]

I've kicked more "serious" habits before but nothing really compares to my sugar cravings. I'll have to find something low calorie to eat that can fill that void

[hasty wedge]

[crystal ore]

You might try gum, for example.

[hasty wedge]

Absolutely correct

Added sugar is evil

[lusty fossil]

Gum could be troublesome, might trigger cravings for stop smoking gum that I just finally got off

It doesn't help that basically everything has sugar added to it these days.

But I figure if I cut out candy and soda that will be enough, for now.

[crystal ore]

A baby step might be switching to hard candies, that you have to suck on for a while, rather than something which is chewed and consumed quickly. You get more taste per calorie that way.

[lusty fossil]

Oh I know myself. I'll just crunch them. It's gotta be cold turkey. I'm gonna be miserable for a while

[crystal ore]

You're actually my target customer for a product idea I've been considering! What would you think about a little smart microcontroller tag that attaches to a bag of sweets, which you could configure in an app to light up red or green according to your diet rules... no candy after 8:00pm, or only two per day, or only if you've hit 10,000 steps in your fitness tracker, etc.?

[stoic mesa]

soda contains humongous amounts of sugar. SOmething like 40g per cup

[wooden schooner]

nutrition is so hard

[lusty fossil]

Soda has a ton. I sat down and counted up the calories from soda that I took in today
750

Insane

Switching to sugar free tea where possible

[wooden schooner]

for caffeine?

[lusty fossil]

Yup

[wooden schooner]

nice

[lusty fossil]

Not giving that up

But no more energy drinks unless they are sugar free

[wooden schooner]

I have 2ish cups of black tea with cream most mornings. It's nice

London fog is great, and doesn't take that much vanilla (= sugar) to taste good

[lusty fossil]

I'm thinking I'll replace some of sugar calories with fat calories and it will keep me satiated.

[wooden schooner]

the extreme form of that would be keto

[lusty fossil]

Yeah I don't need that. I'm only looking to lose 5-10 lbs to be at my goal weight

And I love carbs too much

[real falcon]

it took me over month but I have had drank water for over a decade now. it takes some time to get used drinking water, expecially food or snacks that work well with soda.

[fading hare]

here we go again... like 15-20 gunshots in a row, probably half km away

[lusty fossil]

I drink tons of water too.

I'll just have to get used to drinking tons×2 of water

[fading hare]

and a bunch of sirens just blasted past

[lusty fossil]

Maybe sparkling water is a good path

[fading hare]

sparkling water is great

I need to know what is wrong with people in this city.

I am now on super high alert, there was literally a car chase in my neighborhood and people shooting. I'd go get a 12-pack of beverages but I am afraid to leave my house because I am not entirely sure where the gunmen are.

So much for going to bed.

[lusty fossil]

Obviously you've considered this, but maybe consider moving?

[fading hare]

I have considered that. It would be good to do it now as well, because our property price is up quite a bit from when we bought the house.

However, it's not something that's easily done, because we'd need to find a house to buy, and it's a seller's market right now. People are buying houses, in cash, and bidding way over asking price.

||<gallowshumor>Maybe they'll all kill each other soon?</gallowshumor>||

[wooden schooner]

it is weird that the candela is an SI base unit, right?

just spent a while trying to figure out why candelas don't have the same units as power, and came to the conclusion that they do

[fading hare]

candela is just weird in general

[lusty fossil]

Isn't candela also a member of the Elite 4 at one point?

Also why do you have to beat the 5 best trainers in a row just to prove you're good enough?

Or is it to be the best? I don't recalll

[shadow siren]

@lusty fossil remember that unused sugars is converted to fat by the body.

[lusty fossil]

Indeed, that drives my desire to cut them out

[wooden schooner]

Metabolism is extremely complicated

[shadow siren]

The body does not like to give up it's fat, this is the bane of most diets and why they fail

[lusty fossil]

yeah i'm not gonna do anything crazy, just cut out excess sugar and increase exercise. I'm hoping since my goal is modest I'll be able to achieve it

[shadow siren]

I try to watch my total calories per meal and watch my portions, you can help the body by consuming more plant fibre since it makes you feel full but does not contain a lot of sugars and carbs that processed food carries

[lusty fossil]

Yeah I've been eating a lot of salads lately. I'm gonna start bringing salad mix to work and just eat that with oil/vinegar dressing for lunch

unfortunately the only place near my work that serves salads can't seem to figure out how NOT to cross contaminate mine with cheese (allergic). So I'm stuck making my own

[shadow siren]

Another method is to make juices from plants with a juicer

[lusty fossil]

Yeah I don't have the counter space for a juicer

[shadow siren]

I have the juicer but also lack counter space

[wooden schooner]

That loses the fiber, right?

[shadow siren]

there are two types of fibre soluble and nonsoluble, you lose the soluble

[lusty fossil]

I also don't want to clean a juicer TBH

[fading hare]

Oh, speaking of the shooting... happened less than half a km from my house. I accidentally drove past the scene on my way to the convenience store.

cops cars everywhere, blueberry juice mixers on max, and a bunch of yellow tape and flash lights

[shadow siren]

yes there is the cleaning downside but the health benefits are high

you get a juicer that the parts can go in the dishwasher

[lusty fossil]

My dog just sneezed into my open mouth. Does anyone want to adopt a 65 lb dog with no boundaries?

Had to use a lot of mouthwash to not feel gross

[real falcon]

dogs just trying to feed you best it can lol

[lusty fossil]

Ooooooof

I would never get rid of her, she's done worse and gotten away with it. She's my girl

[real falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/love-dog-gif-15233268

[lusty fossil]

She gets lots of kisses

[fading hare]

it's like humans never learn to not open their mouths in front of dogs...

or to not rub cat bellies that do not want to be rubbed...

[lusty fossil]

So do most people just think spam is disgusting? Because I unironically love fried spam over rice

The texture changes when you fry it. Add some spices while frying and they basically seep into the meat.

Spam sandwich is good too

[blissful roost]

Personally, I hate spam and everything about it.

[thick wind]

https://www.favfamilyrecipes.com/musubi/

[hasty wedge]

making progress

trying to make the best Texas Instruments CCS stream

[burnt tendon]

I dig it.

A friend has a livestream for her band and it's all 80s cable access vibe.

[fossil scaffold]

discovered you can reverse Irwin quick-grips.

[hasty wedge]

reverse grip

[fossil scaffold]

this took years to figure out.

[lusty fossil]

So good

[wooden schooner]

lmao https://twitter.com/beginbotbot/status/1338954701539221504

Begin (@beginbotbot)

If you need some marketing material to drive Github Sponsors @tpope

Twitter · Dec 15, 2020, 9:10 PM

[lusty fossil]

Wow going to sugar free is a change taste wise but cuts calories very effectively

[burnt tendon]

I mean, I did work at a 3D printed car startup so you could download a car.

[lusty fossil]

anyone mind trying to go to conxall.com? I'm getting a security error FYI

firefox didn't allow me to connect

same issue with switchcraft.com

[dusty citrus]

but why?

[dusty citrus]

it works in edge if you click the proceed anyways button

the https cert has expired

[lusty fossil]

hmm yeah I wasn't sure if that was a good idea.

[umbral phoenix]

@lusty fossil https://switchcraft.com - expired cert

[lusty fossil]

I know nothing about web

Is an expired cert unsafe?

[umbral phoenix]

https://conxall.com expired 1 day ago

[lusty fossil]

hopefully they're on it. I just want to find some part drawings!

[dusty citrus]

if you aren't submitting any banking information and just looking at part drawings i wouldn't worry about it

[umbral phoenix]

should be fine assuming you don't submit any sensitive data, and don't mind the 30 computers in the route knowing what you are doing :p

[lusty fossil]

hmm ok.

Thanks

[umbral phoenix]

lol

[lusty fossil]

Should I let them know their cert is expired?

[dusty citrus]

i would just incase, they probably already know but no harm in doing so

[lusty fossil]

Switchcraft owns conxall so I assume it's the same person responsible for both

[fossil scaffold]

For use as a separator.

[dusty citrus]

i just noticed your pfp, it's adorable

[fossil scaffold]

Thanks!

[dusty citrus]

is that your fursona?

[fossil scaffold]

Yea

[dusty citrus]

any more pictures?

[fossil scaffold]

Oh! Sure!

[dusty citrus]

[fossil scaffold]

[dusty citrus]

my fursona is a skelly.

[fossil scaffold]

pics?

[fossil scaffold]

ooOOooh nice nice

[dusty citrus]

i have suit in the works with a bunch of adafruit stuff.

for the LEDs.

neopixels are absolutely great

[fossil scaffold]

OOH! My friend (who drew the last pic I sent) has been working on a suit. She's been wanting me to help with electronics in the future, haha!

[dusty citrus]

i'm hoping it'll be will be good enough for a #show-and-tell

[fossil scaffold]

def tag me WIPs sometime

[dusty citrus]

i wore some if it to magfest

[fossil scaffold]

OH! IIRC I've had some friends go to MAGfest!

Up near DC, right?

[fossil scaffold]

AAA nice

[dusty citrus]

magfest was this past weekend

[fossil scaffold]

WHoopsy might not've been MAGFest then... similar name

That's dope af though

[dusty citrus]

my tail is a singular spine going all the way

[fossil scaffold]

Niiice

[fossil scaffold]

What're the wires on your left hand?

[dusty citrus]

working on this back piece.

[fossil scaffold]

WOA
I need to pick up some neopixels...
What're you using to run the whole thing?

[dusty citrus]

thats a WIP, as a build everything, it's flipped over

near my left hand is the cord mess.

as my fursona badge glows -- 8x8 neopixel + 3d print of the head

the eyes are 12 neopixel rings

and the back piece is 3 meter neopixel strip

[fossil scaffold]

Love it

[dusty citrus]

each one is on Stemma QT Py and powered by a massive USB Battery pack

-- the wiring mess.

i need make a harness i can wear under the shirt that would hide it better

the normal lithium ion packs are great, but i want something i dont' have worry about power draw

[fossil scaffold]

Drawing too much current?

[dusty citrus]

it's a 2 part problem.

i don't want additional weight in the fursuit head -- the 3D print is already heavy enough

i want to be fursuiting until i'm too tired to suit, not because my suit has run out power

[lusty fossil]

DOes creating an account count as submitting sensitive information?

to a website?

I used a dummy username and a randomly generated password

[dusty citrus]

don't reuse passwords, and change it later.

treat the website as unencypted.

[fossil scaffold]

Shoot that's true... interesting problem...

[dusty citrus]

i love that the majority of adafruits boards have built in lithium ion chargers and in my original design of it, it would be taking advantage

but in practicality, it's not really an option

[fossil scaffold]

Oh yeah, only good for small currents

[dusty citrus]

the back piece draws 1.4 amps for example

[fossil scaffold]

What's the voltage of those LED modules?

[dusty citrus]

5v

you can run them lower or dimmer, but i need to have everything visibe in daylight

[fossil scaffold]

You using a USB power bank atm?

[dusty citrus]

lemme go link it

[lusty fossil]

sigh, I don't want a step model, I want a drawing! Switchcraft just has bad documentation in general IME

[dusty citrus]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/636740/anker-powercore-iii-elite-26000mah-87w-usb-c-pd-portable-charger-black

i picked that one for a few reasons. it's got 4 USB ports -- so i split suit into different sections and all have them powered by different QT Pys

and the crazy 25.6 amp power hours... i'm hoping that will give 6-8 hours of wearable time.

so if i forget to charge it, it's not the end of the world

[fossil scaffold]

yeah those anker battery banks are fantastic

I have a little Power Delivery dev kit that I can get 5v, 9v, and 15v from it

i think it supports 12v too but the battery bank is an older model

[burnt tendon]

....I guess you can really bank on them?

[dusty citrus]

not in this economy

[fossil scaffold]

[dusty citrus]

i'm thinking about making those

LED light up shoes

[fossil scaffold]

yes

[dusty citrus]

https://learn.adafruit.com/firewalker-led-sneakers/overview

[fossil scaffold]

woah do those have gyroscopes in them or something (based on the first gif)

HAH love the microcontroller just stitched to the side of them.

[stoic mesa]

got some help testing my robot

[dusty citrus]

yeah. i'm probably just going to do something with a nice set of doc martin combat boots

but i don't know

[fossil scaffold]

ive always wanted to try putting piezoelectric generators in shoes

[fossil scaffold]

def could try with an old pair too

[dusty citrus]

i'm always curious what the level of "good enough" for the show and tell is.

[fossil scaffold]

oh man yeah, i know that feeling. i'd definitely say just go for it,

[stoic mesa]

none
I have seen some great and exciting things, but also some very simple ones. So there is no barrier

[dusty citrus]

what is the show and tell role?

now that i see you have it

[stoic mesa]

it is given to people who had shown their stuff at show and tell

[dusty citrus]

cool

[stoic mesa]

it doesn't mean that I have anything to do with running it

[late fulcrum]

That's what I would do, move the battery pack(s) to on your back or waist where the extra weight is easier to support and there's more room, and have cables/connectors from there to the head.

[hard estuary]

I'm making a podcast called The CircuitPython Show: https://circuitpythonshow.com/ - If anyone wants to be a guest or has an idea for me for someone to reach out to, I'd love to hear feedback. It'll be coming in a couple months.

[dusty citrus]

have you reached out to @fair summit he seems like the perfect guest

[fair summit]

any CPy team members

[dusty citrus]

[hard estuary]

I have reached out to Kattni and Scott who are confirmed for the first season

I've got a teacher also booked and another invite or two out there. I'd like to get to 6 confirmed guests for season one

[dusty citrus]

beyond guests and just standard interviewss

what else are going to adds

deep dives into things like memory management?

[hard estuary]

i'm going to start out with an interview show with different guest each episode

One thing at a time. 🙂

[dusty citrus]

take a look at what software engineering radio does

[hard estuary]

I've never done this, so I've got a lot to learn

will do!

[dusty citrus]

they do interviews but it's structured with a specific topic

rather than open ended, they focus on just one thing to guide the conversation

[hard estuary]

Cool, I've been thinking something similar

As I've researched each potential guest I've thought of a theme almost for that episode, so similar

[dusty citrus]

thats good

[dusk oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777651838601396306/930892103523913809/IMG-20220112-WA0002.jpeg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777651838601396306/930892103947530270/IMG-20220112-WA0000.jpeg

🙂

@fading harei rebuilt her

[fading hare]

Nice!

[dusk oracle]

had to replace the regulator

added a heat sink to it just in case

working well

[spare mason]

Turns out that AdafruitIO is quite a useful debug logging tool 😅 I got it to upload the last trace after a circuitpython watchdog reboot

[fair summit]

that is very clever!

[lusty fossil]

Anyone know if they make larger-than-printer-paper sized shipping labels? I use shipping labels with cutouts printed on them to dremel out enclosure holes (manufacturer of the enclosure doesn't offer custom machining on the box I need), but I need 20+ inches of paper to do it right. I'm not finding anything on google but I assume I am just using google wrong

[crystal ore]

Maybe you can buy it by the roll?

[dusty citrus]

so something like ANSI D or ANSI C?

for the US Standard sizes

or A2 for the ISO standard

[lusty fossil]

yeah something like that

@dusty citrus

I also have to find a place to print it

[dusty citrus]

any printshop would be able to do it

like staples (US)

for a big chain store

https://www.staples.com/services/printing/engineering-blueprints/

they will print 18x24

for example

[lusty fossil]

interesting OK, so I just have to find the large labels. I feel like I've seen giant shipping labels IRL but not finding them in google.

[dusty citrus]

you want some with an adhesive backing as well?

[lusty fossil]

indeed, so I can stick to the enclosure and keep the relative spacing intact

[dusty citrus]

let me see...

the biggest i'm finding is 11" x 14"...

you might just need to dyi it with spray adhesive..

spray the back of it. and stick it on

[lusty fossil]

That's a good idea

[dusty citrus]

another idea

going in a completely diffeent direction

you would use something like a cricut machine to create a template for the holes

because that can make a vinyl sticker up to 12 feet in length -- more than enough for your use

then just use a regular label for everything else

[lusty fossil]

hmmm I like it but I don't know if I can buy a cricut for just one project? I was hoping to print out a Fusion360 drawing that has the hole pattern I want. Is there a way to supply the cricut with CAD data?

[dusty citrus]

there are bunch of vinyl stickers sellers all over etsy. i'm sure you could give one of them a poke and see if they will do a custom sticker

[crystal ore]

It should be able to take like a DXF file, or something converted to/from that.

[lusty fossil]

a 20" x 6" sticker?

[dusty citrus]

yeah

[lusty fossil]

22" x 6 "*

Interesting

[dusty citrus]

you are limited to just 1 color

[lusty fossil]

that's fine

I'm cutting the ink part out anyways

[dusty citrus]

and yes cricut will take dxf

along with jpg svg bmp..

so you'll be fine sending it whatever you want

[lusty fossil]

interesting. Maybe I can justify a cricut in the budget

I could also put a call out on craigslist for using someone else's cricut in exchange for a fee

I assume you can get sticker rolls?

[stray wind]

The custom order from Etsy might be a good avenue.

Yeah, the cricut material comes in rolls.

[lusty fossil]

interesting

[stray wind]

If it's only for one project, anyway.

[thick wind]

Another option, if you have a projector: directly project your pattern onto surface in question, then mark all the holes that need to be drilled with a marker?

[lusty fossil]

I don't have to send anyone my design files if I buy a cricut. I'm sure we can find other uses for it.

[stray wind]

That makes a bit more sense.

[lusty fossil]

no projector unfortunately. Wouldn't that have scaling issues?

[thick wind]

if your enclosure outline is included in your drawing, you should be able to adjust the projector until it lines up.

[dusty citrus]

a projector would work, but you'll get keystoning issues which would be annoying to fiddle with. i think a vinyl sticker might be easier

[dusty citrus]

i would say buy the cricut, because you can also use to cut other things

i want to try it out on Electrolumincent panels i just haven't a chance to

[lusty fossil]

Hmm I think a cricut is worth it. I'll ask my boss if she thinks we could find other uses for it and then add it to my budget/see where that puts me. I feel like one of my coworkers could find a use for it. Does it also print onto the material it cuts?

[dusty citrus]

no.

you'll need a much more expensive machine for that

[thick wind]

For a quick turn, your best bet is to print it at staples and tape/glue it down. Really strong magnets are also an option for a temporary template mounting.

[dusty citrus]

the paper solution i was talking about earlier?

[thick wind]

Yeah.

If you need to drill the same holes on multiple enclosures, making a drill guide with plastic or wood is an option as well.

[lusty fossil]

I think I'll try the paper and glue method first. I may need to ask for help doing that but that's tolerable

[lusty fossil]

One and done fortunately

[stray wind]

You can draw on the material with markers using the Cricut though. It's not printing, but it's something.

[lusty fossil]

hmmm if the cricut can't do precise plotting then it's not really the right tool for the job. I think I'll try with glue and paper first. Cheapest option by far

[thick wind]

At that point, you could consider a CNC machine to directly drill the enclosure haha

(Or a template if you’re not confident with alignment. )

[lusty fossil]

haha, Polycase actually offers machining, just not for the enclosure I want

frustrating for sure

[brisk blade]

Finally part of the club

All 39 bucks of it

[weary fiber]

Flight sim setup complete!

[lusty fossil]

nice

[wooden schooner]

I first read that as "fight sim" and thought those handle bars were boxing gloves you were supposed to use to punch the other person

[stoic mesa]

@lusty fossil you can buy letter-size vinyl stickers that you can print on using regular inkjet printer: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T83CSCG

much better than paper and glue

[lusty fossil]

I need 4"x21"

Thx tho

[dusk oracle]

i need some help i found two live .22 bullets but i dont just want to toss them in the trash, suggestions on disposing safely?

was thinking of just pulling out the lead tips but not sure how safe that is

[lusty fossil]

Police would probably take them

Maybe a gun range near you? Ammo is expensive I hear.

[lusty fossil]

Day 1 of new healthy living. Had probably 1/4 the amount of processed sugar I normally have and did 50 situps. One day at a time.

[crystal ore]

Great! (Personally I hate situps...)

You'll soon have to change your handle to OatsNCinnamon or something like that...

[lusty fossil]

Lololol

I personally hate push-ups because I have some hardware and I guess you could call it software, as it's grafted tissue, in my shoulder and they hurt some when I do pushups

[crystal ore]

Understandable. I'll trade you for the situps, heh heh, since pushups are my go-to exercise.

[lusty fossil]

Lolol. I got one of those door frame pullup bars, will be here tomorrow

[crystal ore]

I bought one of those recently, but had to give it away, since when I went to install it, it just started to tear my door-frame apart as I tightened it. Cheap house construction... Ended up getting a free-standing frame instead.

[lusty fossil]

That's a good idea. I am pretty sure the frame will be OK but good to be aware of

[crystal ore]

Of course I'm still working on being able to do a single pullup with it. Sigh, don't get old and weak...

[lusty fossil]

I'm trying not to!

[dusk oracle]

@lusty fossil i pulled the lead from them, threw out the gun powder and crushed the middle of the shell with a side cutter. problem is if i drop them in the garbage someone will take them and use them for crime.
And our police is corrupt.
i cant stand the idea of something i throw away killing someone later in it's life.

[lusty fossil]

Hmm the lead could be an environmental concern

Seems like you've made it hard for someone to use them for crime

[dusk oracle]

i kept the lead to smelt

[lusty fossil]

Ruined shell casings should be hard to repurpose for crime, I would think

Criminals are resourceful but I don't think they're that resourceful

[dusk oracle]

i doubt they could even try use them

[idle iron]

anyone ever get sensors from china that dont give correct temp? I had to offset -2c for the temp to be right, so far working from 3c to 27c, i hope its correct when 40c in summer

[dusk oracle]

it's always best to test sensors from any source and correct reading

a simple LERP should suffice

[tardy badger]

Me on January 13th: “wow it has been a long year”

[hard estuary]

I think 2020 never ended

[dusk oracle]

2017 never ended for me

[wary herald]

I'm back!!

I took a month break

But now I'm active again

and full of typos LOL

[vagrant sonnet]

Agreed https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/670040946808979476/930620275534483556/FIcI8flX0AQHSz3.jpeg

[wooden schooner]

I had some kind of tendonitis / tennis elbow–like injury 7 years ago, and it still feels like I'm about to injure myself every time I try to do push-ups, even incline push-ups that are not taxing on my muscles. I wish I could train for strength in that area but I feel like my body is giving a pretty clear signal. 🤷

I might finally bite and get a set of dumbbells, since dumbbell bench press seems like it can be applied and measured very precisely, and I think doesn't need a spot if you stay light

Dumbbell sets are expensive though

[fading hare]

One. Raspberry. Pi. 4. At. A. Time. Yet another 4 ordered.

Also, someone over in the Pimoroni Discord took an angle grinder to their Pi to try to remove headers they soldered to it. It obviously didn't work.

[tardy badger]

I can feel the physical shock to the IC just by looking at the picture

Poor RPi

[fading hare]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic mesa]

They just need a bigger angle grinder. Would be guaranteed to remove everything in 10 ft radius, including headers

[raw jasper]

hah, I've been trying to write an introduction message, but the words just won't come to me today 😛

[fading hare]

sorry, I didn't mean to take your breath away with the angle grinder pic

[raw jasper]

people make all sorts of mistakes all the time

[fading hare]

It's like... hey, there's a scratch on my glass table, I should probably just Dremel that straight off! My wife tells me I am a hammer. I think angle grinder beats hammers any day. 😄

[raw jasper]

Anyway, TBH I don't really work with hardware, but I do have a technical job -- I came across the adafruit Code of Conduct repo on github, liked the fact that you guys have a CoC, and joined

[stoic mesa]

welcome!

[fading hare]

Welcome!

[raw jasper]

Thanks!

I have the one raspberry pi, that's sitting in my drawer, unused

It's literally The One Raspberry Pi [TM]

[stoic mesa]

to rule them all

[raw jasper]

Used to use it as a generic linux mini-server, then bought a proper NAS

The thing has been sitting in my drawer ever since

[fading hare]

Send it to me.

😄

Or, build something cool with it! Like a Home Assistant server!

[raw jasper]

I am not really into smart home stuff

I really like FPGAs, though

Haven't had time to play with them in a long time though

[fading hare]

I haven't messed with FPGAs specifically. What is the appeal for you?

(I have very limited experience in a lot of electronics stuff, so always interested in learning more)

[raw jasper]

I remember liking that I could make complex systems that interact with the physical / hardware world without having to solder / design a PCB / physically make a complex circuit

They are a really nice way to find out more about how complex digital circuits (eg CPUs) work

[fading hare]

Ah, OK. I know what you're talking about, kind of. Yeah, I never really got into that. There's some games that I own that are similar in nature, and I am not smart enough for them. 😄

[raw jasper]

Also FYI my nickname literally means 'human being' in Japanese (a language I am learning)

My Japanese is... not great, but it's good enough to understand the gist of a text using a dictionary addon

[fading hare]

I know Ohayo, Konnichiwa, and Hai. And that's it. I also think I vaguely remember that Konnichiwa was rude to use, for some reason. So, yeah.

My name means "Thor's Roar" or "Thunder" if you will.

[fading hare]

only beings that are aliens call themselves "humans" as if to prove something... 😉 you gave yourself away!

Reminded me of Resident Alien. Not sure if you've seen that?

[raw jasper]

Nope!

is a featherless biped

[fading hare]

Resident Alien was a fun show!

[raw jasper]

Oh, now I remember seeing the trailer for its next(?) session the other day?

[tardy badger]

The pure irony of this email going to spam lol

[late fulcrum]

Heh, I got a fake PayPal email including the usual "how to spot a fake" verbiage, describing many of the things about it that indicated its fakeness.

[chrome kite]

could they not... remove the pins individually?

[fading hare]

yeah, all you gotta do is cut off the plastic holding them together and then desolder one at a time... but, why use a buff cloth when you can use a dremel, eh?

[chrome kite]

sigma grindset, I guess

[fading hare]

They were complaining about not being able to desolder the pins, and they were using copper braid and a solder sucker... I was like, wait, did you even use flux?

I'm just going to assume it was a practical joke and keep my already shaky faith in humanity mostly intact. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blissful roost]

What the ||censored||!!!!

[lusty fossil]

Day 2 of low sugar diet. Sigh, aspartame just isn't the same. Oh well

"Low" = just the background sugar that's nearly impossible to avoid in America

[fading hare]

You ever try these?

[lusty fossil]

Doesn't Stevia have calories like regular sweeteners? I'm trying to lose some weight

Oh I see the 0 cal thing

Interesting

[fading hare]

zero calories

[lusty fossil]

I could chew on those like a horse

[fading hare]

yeah, no, don't do that

[lusty fossil]

I unfortunately have no off switch for sugar. I sat and ate an entire family size bag of sour patch kids once

[fading hare]

they're an awesome replacement for sugar in beverages like tea and coffee, might be a bit on the sweet side for coffee... I recommend using ONE cube until you know... because once you know, you know... two cubes is usually a massive overkill

[lusty fossil]

Fat? Wheaty Carbs? Protein? Those fill me up. With sugar I can just keep going

[fading hare]

We can all do it. Sure, do I prefer to eat an entire party bag of Ruffles in a sitting, yes. Can I stop myself? In all honesty, yeah, it's not that hard. Makes you antsy when you crave something. Like, the weird intersection between not smoking/vaping and not drinking leads to some neurotic shenanigans. My body is usually like, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS... and I'm like, bro, I have no clue.

[lusty fossil]

Sugar is a powerful drug.

[fading hare]

Says everybody who has never detoxed off of heroin.

Sugar is nothing compared to cigarettes, or even alcohol.

Sugar is easy. Probably the easiest thing I ever quit as far as cravings go. Coffee was way, way, way, way worse. I had headaches for weeks.

Didn't you just quit smoking too?

May want to maybe chill on the no sugar for a bit until your body has some time to establish a new baseline. Quitting everything at once has never worked out well for me. Like, I mean, people almost died (no joke) "not well."

[lusty fossil]

Idk I'm doing nicotine detox right now and my sugar cravings are as bad

Never done the other

I'm tired of gaining weight so I'm doing both. It's maybe not the smartest but we'll see

[fading hare]

Main problem is stopping cigarettes makes you crave snacks and whatever else because it satisfies that reptile brain dumbness of moving your hand back and forth to your mouth and inhaling.

[lusty fossil]

Yeah I'm eating pop corn

That fills me up fast

Unsalted, no butter popcorn

[fading hare]

Yeah, there's not really anything that compares to detoxing off of the big H. You're basically going entirely out of your mind, and your body is completely rebelling, and, did I mention, without proper care you could actually die? I mean, you can do that if you quit certain SSRIs cold turkey too...

Our bodies are dumb computers. They establish a dependency on something, and they will literally stop working if we don't give them whatever crap we got them hooked on. Cigarettes were really bad for me. They would not only affect my mood/irritability, but they would also attack my short term memory and certain other cognitive functions, and basically shut them down until nicotine was introduced. It's nasty. Remaps and shuts down entire neural pathways and holds them hostage until you supply nicotine.

So, yeah. It took me years and a few relapses. But I've finally quit nicotine.

Been entirely smoke free since some time in 2019. Can't even indulge in the chill pointy-leafed plant that some states have made legal. Because apparently it interacts with my heart meds and makes my blood pressure plummet. Which in turn wreaks havoc on my heart so my pulse increases, quite rapidly. Meditation isn't really working. There's still people and cars and things everywhere. I basically want to move away, live life in a cabin in the mountains. And just have someone come check on me every few weeks and bring me some newly downloaded YouTube videos and maybe a couple of electronics projects, and you know, make sure I don't start collecting odd, broken typewriters and take up new hobbies involving wood and metal craft.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dusk oracle]

recently picked that my pc was exploited and the 2 dead giveaways i have hacked gpu drivers were, display flickering black when initializing hardware layers and discord being unable to correctly use layers when streaming or watching streaming, a dead giveaway is you cannot popout the streaming window it will just disappear or the black flicker when your chromium based browser is opened to display media or closed.

[raw jasper]

And then, how did you figure out the rest? Flagged files by antivirus?

[dusk oracle]

i looked thru windows's logs when fixing it all and compared the hashes for the driver files.

other people have admitted having to wipe due to the same side effects after installing just one of several highly popular games.

one being a huge E-sport.. the problem is they break windows update by injecting into Settings.exe

in severe cases they actually do alot to a system as the attack works as a remote access trojan

[raw jasper]

Wait a second… Recent win versions only load signed drivers

And they get quite obvious when signing verification has been disabled

[dusk oracle]

trust me i'm not even joking

[raw jasper]

So there must have been a primary exploit, or the drivers were somehow signed…?