general-chat

[lusty fossil]

ahh ok. Is it worth it to sand it smooth again?

[pure haven]

May not matter now if the scratches are deep. A polished finish is better.

[lusty fossil]

hm

Ok

Hopefully I didn't ruin anything. I can inspect it closely tomorrow

[pure haven]

Not matter what you do brass track gets dirty fast, oxidizes really and the oxides are not conductive. A reagular light polishing is all that it needs

[lusty fossil]

Like once a month?

[pure haven]

Should do, but it will matter how much you run the trains.

[lusty fossil]

It only runs in december

[pure haven]

A good cleaning now will most likely be enough for the month

[lusty fossil]

kool

thanks so much!

[pure haven]

your welcome and no problem

This is a picture from 2016 of my layout.

[lusty fossil]

wowza

I stopped by the local train store today because someone broke our train. I thought electronics was an expensive hobby!

[pure haven]

It adds up over time

[lusty fossil]

Our train was 800 bucks I think?

I don't have the space for it so I'll just admire set ups like yours

[pure haven]

That's about the cost of 2 locos for me

[lusty fossil]

It came with a loco, a tender and 3 or 4 cars

[fading hare]

@lusty fossil remember that discussion we had about square Pimoroni HyperPixels and mounting them on the Raspberry Pi 400? Check #show-and-tell. I did it!

[lusty fossil]

I saw!

[fading hare]

hahahaha

[lusty fossil]

Very cool

[fading hare]

mad genius

I got lucky that the Hacker Hat was wired straight and no funky business anywhere.

[lusty fossil]

I'm surprised you don't have major sag issues

[fading hare]

Hey now. Don't talk about my cyberdeck that way.

There's actually no sag issues since I used the standoffs that came with the HP4 and I added a couple of extra ones on the joint between the Cyberdeck and the Pimoroni HAT Hacker HAT.

[lusty fossil]

Ahh

[fading hare]

But, without screwing the parts together like I did? Yeah, pretty wobbly.

[lusty fossil]

Yeah I ran into that issue with my custom hat

Do you happen to know the lengths of the stand offs?

[fading hare]

For the HP4, or the ones I used for the cyberdeck and hacker hat?

Also, I am mad at my MagTag. It works when plugged into USB, but when I unplug it and run it on battery, it keeps rebooting. It's like it doesn't want to deep sleep, or something...

[lusty fossil]

Oh wait you're plugging in to a pi 400. Different than my situation

[fading hare]

The standoffs for the cyberdeck/hacker hat joint are 9.93 mm.

The standoffs for the HyperPixel 4.0 are 15.95 mm. They do require that you use the header extender, though.

[lusty fossil]

Would you reckon those 9.93s would work for any hat with 2x20 pin header?

[fading hare]

I think so

if you have the really stubby headers, with the side soldering pins, you will get a gap of about 2 mm between the headers, but, I figured that was an acceptable compromise.

[lusty fossil]

Makes sense

Thx

[fading hare]

Y'all are super smart. Like. Super smart. I read all these things in the channels about stuff that's just blowing my mind. I'm over here in my corner, doing a happy dance because I managed to cobble together awesome things that awesome people made for other purposes (Square HyperPixel on a RPi 400).

I'm basically Chumbucket cobbling together the left-overs of your once mighty civilization.

(Mad Max the Game reference)

[blissful roost]

Ahh... "People of Walmart".

See, I love Mad Max...

Mad Max: "Australia is a deathworld!"
Today: "Australia is a deathworld!"

[fading hare]

I love how he calls the dog the name of the dog food because he doesn't know it's a dog.

Dinki-Di.

[tardy badger]

Finally, my parts sitting in California are moving

And my DHL package with Island Explorer-IO Explorers are moving now

[silver shale]

Been waiting for two weeks for a SSD laptop dvd bay caddy for the server. Decided to set up the RPi4 as a PiHole server since Windows was getting too annoying.

[tardy badger]

Something that was weird to me is I never got an email from Digi-Key that my order shipped

[tardy badger]

Me: makes one small dependency update on an installer
The other dependencies: “welp I can’t work anymore, sorry”

[late fulcrum]

That sounds familiar and frustrating.

[wooden schooner]

That's the one-to-one version. The one-to-many version (which you may also have) is even worse: when you're the maintainer of software that has to work (including platform-dependent dependency resolution) on everyone's computer.

[wooden schooner]

I got the Home Depot clone of this installed in my kitchen and it is amazing!!! https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-1-ft-x-4-ft-50-Watt-Dimmable-White-Integrated-LED-Edge-Lit-Flat-Panel-Flush-Mount-Light-with-Color-Changing-CCT-FP1X4-4WY-WH-HD/304258311
4000 lumens (50W LED), dimmable, color temperature selectable. If you toggle the switch quickly, it cycles between 3000K, 4000K and 5000K.

[blissful roost]

1 time I wish I were the lock-picking lawyer....

I've managed to lock myself out of my apartment.

[wooden schooner]

what kind of lawyer is he, do you know?

[blissful roost]

No idea... I might imagine he's dealt with some burglary cases in his time... Lol

[wooden schooner]

could be. I had guessed he was a lawyer of some random specialty by occupation, and separately had this hobby

[blissful roost]

Indeed.. I mean, I sure don't build Lego kits as a job.. but I'd like to. Lol

[dire viper]

Totally off topic, but maybe somebody knows.

Is there something like xsnow for current Mac OS?

[late fulcrum]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3806

[blissful roost]

Hehe

[lusty fossil]

@pure haven highest grade sandpaper the hardware store has is 600. I was gonna try brasso first anyways but is 600 fine enough?

[pure haven]

Yes just be very light with it.

[wanton thistle]

Try an auto store. They have up to 2000 or more

OR harbor freight

[lusty fossil]

The brasso seems to be working well enough

[fading hare]

Anyone know what this means? I don't speak French.

[lusty fossil]

Besoin is a French form of the English Bezosin, where you shave your head and make inferior rockets.

As in, "Here I go Bezosin again!"

[stoic mesa]

where you shave your head and make inferior rockets.
Never associated shaving your head with making rockets...

[lusty fossil]

They aren't associated they just both have to happen for it to be Bezosin.

[fading hare]

hahahaha

[fading hare]

apart from the Adafruit offerings for lock picks, I recommend these:
https://store.itstactical.com/collections/all-products-one/products/its-spie-stick
https://store.itstactical.com/collections/all-products-one/products/its-first-strike-bypass-bundle
They can get you out of sticky situations. For various reasons. Only good ones, of course.

small enough to always carry

[lusty fossil]

Can you get in trouble for having what are technically burglary tools?

[fading hare]

This is America. You can get in trouble for just looking the wrong way at a law enforcement officer. What's your point? 😉

But, no, you cannot get in trouble for just having lock picks. If you have a bunch of other stuff, like a balaclava (because it's cold and it's winter) and maybe bolt cutters. Not sure what they would charge you with, though?!

What are they, the thought police? "You look like you're about to commit a crime, somewhere, some time, somehow." Well. I spoke to soon, they do this every day, to minorities.

Maybe that was too much politics? Or reality, or whatever? I can delete.

[stoic mesa]

I do not think there is any way you could be charged for having them.

[lusty fossil]

Interesting.

[proven geode]

?showtimes

[solar ridge]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays

[lusty fossil]

I'll probably just stick with paying 100 bucks every few years to a locksmith

That's about the rate at which I lock myself out. And it's worth the money to me to not have to carry another thing

[stoic mesa]

But yes, being stopped by police - more or less on any pretext - is a possibility, if the police don't like the way you look.

regardless of lock-picking tools

[fading hare]

I am not a lawyer, so I can't advise you. I also do not know how you will be treated if you have an F on your scorecard.

[lusty fossil]

Interestingly last time the locksmith told me that my cheap locks, while not harder to brute force, are harder to pick in an unobtrusive way.

[fading hare]

Yeah. Easier to kick the door in a lot of the time. Get Door Armor.

[blissful roost]

In the UK, no.

They have to prove intent.

[lusty fossil]

I have 65 lb bulldog.

Big 'ol teefers

[fading hare]

Hehehe. Dogs can be "disabled." I wouldn't, because I love animals.

Either way. You can also make your own door armor. If you feel like working with metal.

[lusty fossil]

I figure she's good enough to deter most burglars

[fading hare]

Most burglars do not break in when you're home. It's the ones that do that you should be wary of.

Most of the time you can improve security by just replacing the short screws they used to put in your bolt and such. Get like 5-6" screws.

[lusty fossil]

I'll look into that thanks.

[late fulcrum]

Not to be confused with a bezoar.

[lusty fossil]

Lol

[lusty fossil]

What do folks do to keep good sleep hygiene? I'm needing 10+ hours of sleep to feel remotely rested and it's truly remotely rested.

[blissful roost]

I shower before bed. 🧐

[lusty fossil]

interesting

I use the shower to wake me up in the morning

[blissful roost]

I don't like going to bed still wearing the sweat of the day.

[umbral phoenix]

I can fall asleep in seconds, my problem is staying up too late and / or getting up too early. But night mode on electronics after sunset, and I leave my phone in a different room when it's time for sleep.

[lusty fossil]

Neat thanks

[umbral phoenix]

re: security... I don't worry too much about door security since it's so much easier to just break a window. I kicked in my door once to get in. That was expensive. The next time, I broke in through a window.

[lusty fossil]

yeah if anyone wants to get in bad enough to break down my wooden door, they're just gonna go around back and break the sliding glass door

[umbral phoenix]

You just need to be slightly less enticing or slightly more secure than the neighbor 😉

[lusty fossil]

that's the old "faster than you, not the bear" approach 😛

[umbral phoenix]

🙂

[lusty fossil]

I think my direct neighbors are more a target, they own the apartment as a vacation place so are never there

[umbral phoenix]

but most crooks are dumb, and therefore not very predictable

[lusty fossil]

In the opposite vein, I thought my manual transmission was a good thief deterrent but then I spoke to a car thief (semi-reformed) and he told me most serious car thieves know enough to get your car to a chop shop

[umbral phoenix]

phones too

[lusty fossil]

Like rotary phones haha?

[umbral phoenix]

haha

[lusty fossil]

Totally unrelated. What do I need to look for to tell if my monitor is capable of daisy chaining?

[late fulcrum]

"Rotary" phone? Oh, you mean the crank to charge up the line?

[wooden schooner]

Do you get plenty of exercise?

[lusty fossil]

Lol no time for that. I'm always either working or sleeping

[wooden schooner]

Speaking as someone who usually doesn't but sometimes does, I can say it makes a big difference

[lusty fossil]

I literally roll out of bed, shower, get to work, come home, eat dinner, sleep

[wooden schooner]

For me at least

Yeah, that kind of thing has always been a struggle for me

[blissful roost]

I just don't make time to exercise.. lazy. Lol

[wooden schooner]

Most of the time, when there is a forced vacation (holidays, someone brings me on a trip, etc) I start by winding down for two days, and then saying "holy cow, I forgot there was a world outside my usual cycle!"

I've come to view those breaks as really important and even to respect that during moments when I'm too deep into the grind to remember what they're like

[late fulcrum]

I read myself to sleep, which seems to work well for me. Many nights, I'll wake up after a few hours, read a bit more or do something relaxing, then go sleep the rest of the night (this is how humans slept for most of history). I do like it dark and quiet, so I shut stuff in my bedroom when it's time to sleep. I eschew alarm clocks entirely. I have a nice comfortable bed and keep the air temperature a bit cool. Usually a pet keeps me company. I sleep a lot of hours, which may have something to do with the fact that I don't age quickly.

[lusty fossil]

Interesting. I'll have to look into a new mattress. I've had mine about 10 years

[late fulcrum]

I ended up opting for a waterbed. They may not be popular any more, but I like the lack of pressure points, the gentle rocking motion, and the warmth in winter and coolth in summer.

[lusty fossil]

I'm considering a sleep number, need to do my research to see if it's worth it.

[late fulcrum]

One upside is a new mattress is about $40. One downside is I generally find I need to replace the heater every few years, and that's more like $200 (and I have to drain and refill everything to replace it).

Personally, I consider the sleep numbers as overpriced air mattresses, but yeah, do your own research (the sleep number warranty is creatively pro-rated, which can burn you) and make up your own mind.

[lusty fossil]

hmm yeah I have to do a lot of research. I'm also considering the Purple/other internet mattresses

[manic tide]

"sorry babe I can't. My arms are tired"

[subtle fable]

I'm making tennis for two in unity

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604180521622175764/918497367584546836/2021-12-09_08-34-42.mp4

5 fps video because this macbook is awful

[manic tide]

My JBL is taking a bath, lmao

Or sink I should say

[quartz wren]

Might I recommend Inland for cheap filament?

[radiant shale]

One off the wall thought: Have you considered that your problem might be that you're getting TOO MUCH time in bed. That you might feel more rested with a regular 6 hrs a night? (Also, no screen devices, and little light and sound in the bedroom.)

[radiant shale]

FYI, THIS right here sounds like a recipe for never feeling rested.

[lusty fossil]

I have but I just can't get up after 8 hours. I'm gonna see what my GP says

[radiant shale]

Checking with your doctor never hurts.

[lusty fossil]

I've always slept terribly though, even when I was like 7 and screens weren't as ubiquitous and weren't allowed much at home

[wooden schooner]

Was your work schedule at 7 years old as intense as it is today?

[lusty fossil]

Lol

Those glue sticks weren't gonna eat themselves

🎵 you load 16 tons (of glue sticks into your mouth), and whaddaya get? 🎵

[wooden schooner]

At 7 I found it hard to maintain inbox zero. Too busy interfacing with my parents to unblock me

Great snack selection though - including some creative ones

[lusty fossil]

Ants on a log!

[wooden schooner]

Oh i was thinking ||boogers||, but you're right, that was earlier (I hope)

[crystal ore]

Getting screened for sleep apnea is probably a good step, for example.

[lusty fossil]

Thats a good point. Closest place for a sleep study is kinda far but I'll see what insurance will cover

[crystal ore]

As a stopgap you can also perform an initial test yourself by just recording yourself sleeping and spot-checking the tape.

[lusty fossil]

I have never gotten feedback that I snore but it's totally possible

[stray wind]

Highly recommend sleep study. I have pretty monumental sleep issues and they were able to identify what was going on, and at least I can try to work around it now. I had to go in twice though, so be prepared for something like that.

My insurance at the time covered it once it was ordered by my GP.

[lusty fossil]

Thanks

I'm trying to install smoke detectors over electrical boxes but the unit says specifically not to do that. Anyone have an idea as to why?

[thick wind]

Battery-operated alarms are not designed for junction box installation. Installing battery-operated detectors over electrical junction boxes may cause nuisance alarms.

[lusty fossil]

Oh interesting. Let me get a pic of the box and ask if it counts as a junction box

Is this a junction box?

Or just an outlet box?

[thick wind]

That would be an outlet box. However, the concern for those alarms is false readings caused by high concentrations of dust, so I’d advise putting the battery alarm in only after cleaning up some.

[lusty fossil]

Ahhh ok. I was trying to think of why an electrical box was a bad idea. All I could think of was RF concerns

Or EM issues

It's just because electrical boxes are in dusty places?

[oak matrix]

@lusty fossil It has more to do with the fact that junction boxes are not sealed against air flow. For example, airflow from the wall or attic could be traveling inwards to the house through the box, pushing smoke away from the detector and preventing it from working with small levels of smoke.

[lusty fossil]

Ahhhh ok

[oak matrix]

I know in my house when I changed my recessed lights over to LED I was amazed to find quite a bit of air flowing out of the hole (even with no A/C duct nearby)

[lusty fossil]

So in a room with mild airflow and only one exlet, I'm ok?

[wanton thistle]

So I found an open source project on Ali-Express, should I let the authors of the project know its on Ali-express? Doubt theres much they can do about it right?

[crystal ore]

If it's open source, depending on the exact license, it's generally fair game for people to build it and sell it.

[tardy badger]

Yay PCB

Without the cast away added

[hasty wedge]

I hope manufacturers can make RP2040 modules like ESP32 modules

[wanton thistle]

rant:I shouldnt be trying to design stuff before bed. Autocad is being finicky 😫

me, trying to move and align stuff, corner to corner but Autocad just aint havin it:

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-krusty-krabs-the-lid-gif-5853427

[hasty wedge]

Pico can surely being used as a module

it's just a bit large

[lusty fossil]

getting my booster tomorrow. Anyone who got a three pack of Pfizer have a review they can pass on?

[spice moss]

my 3rd one is somewhere january

[stoic mesa]

got my Pfizer booster couple of weeks ago. Had some headache - nit sure if it was booster or cheap wine. Other than that, no problems

[lusty fossil]

Neat. I'll just hope that since I don't drink, cheaply or expensively, it'll be just fine.

Thx

[lusty fossil]

Where can I find these?

[fading hare]

I got mine from this kit:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081YGHS73/

[lusty fossil]

oh those are M3 shoot. I need m2.5

[fading hare]

yeah, the M3 were a bit tight, but I threaded them through the holes in the PCB, and it worked fine

[lusty fossil]

I wonder if any standoffs designed for a pi hat would work, since my vertical spacing dimension should line up really closely with any official hat

[fading hare]

possibly

there's plenty of different places to get standoffs, but I am guessing either Amazon or Aliexpress would be a good bet if you can't find them at like Adafruit/Digikey/Mouser.

[lusty fossil]

I may end up 3d printing something suitable but I would like threads

Just found these 11mm ones, measured the distance using a scrap hat and that seems pretty close

mine was 11.05mm which...close enough

[fading hare]

for threads I like using OpenSCAD and the BOSL library, it has modules for generating threads.

and it's way quicker to design things in than in Fusion or whatever

You basically make a cylinder/whatever and then you create a screw (M2.5) and you basically just difference those two and you'll have a standoff, with threads. It's like... 3 lines of code in OpenSCAD if you have BOSL.

[lusty fossil]

interesting. Never used OpenSCAD.

[burnt tendon]

OpenSCAD is very very fun.

Well, for me.

The BOSL2 and NopSCAD libraries are really good for abbreviating a lot of things that would require a lot more effort to work in FreeCAD.

[frail dagger]

Anyone have an Arduoboy?

Or into similar things? I just got the PyGamer kit from Adafruit and looking forward to playing around with it

[late fulcrum]

AdaFruit? https://www.adafruit.com/product/2336

Or the variety pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/3299

[tardy badger]

Easiest assembly ever lol

I didn’t solder the Cast-Away just pushed the headers through the holes

[thick wind]

OpenSCAD is a very powerful and unique 3D CAD tool that really shines with procedural generation. No other CAD software can do what it does as well as it does, and it exports into enough formats that you can reimport it into your main CAD too for assembly. It is very different, so starting from scratch is a bit of a steep learning curve, but there are so many OpenSCAD libraries you can download off the internet and just tweak a couple of parameters to match your application. Definitely worth playing with in your spare time.
(I just started playing with it yesterday, and I'm already hooked...)

[late fulcrum]

Agreed: OpenSCAD is good for parametric designs, just change the parameter and the rest of the design adapts. Pictured is a watchband I designed that has the electronics in a pocket on one side, and the display in a pocket on the other, and the pockets are joined by a narrow channel that can accept FPC or ribbon cable.

[mighty laurel]

Can we get a channel for memes?

But just programming memes

[radiant shale]

It was the easiest of the three, for me. Just the usual soreness at the injection site.

[silver shale]

It has been great for what I use it for. It runs lightweight.

[tardy badger]

I know that in ideal environments 5G is much faster, but it’s really a let down when you have 4-5 bars of 5G coverage but have slow connection rates

[blissful roost]

Or when the town is jam-packed and not enough coverage...

[lusty fossil]

Cool I'll checkout openSCAD

[hasty wedge]

how to confuse your Linux friends

[lusty fossil]

In antman and the sequel and avengers 4: ||what on earth do you eat in the quantum realm?||

[wanton thistle]

shutdown -r now

[hasty wedge]

reboot

[jovial path]

The Vatican is so pretty.

Some days ago I was watching their YouTube channel.

[jovial path]

great

[jovial path]

this one is amazing

[crystal ore]

AFAIK, you don't, but time passes so differently there that you leave before you get too hungry. Maybe the suit has a water supply or some protein bars built in too. Nanotech, you know...

[lusty fossil]

I'm rewatching the sequel and I'm not sure about some aspects of how time works. But time is very loose in the MCU

[crystal ore]

Heh, yeah, definitely...

[hard estuary]

I bought some NeoPixel buttons thinking they were also tactile buttons. Whoops. 🙂

[vernal yoke]

What the

Is that Linux bash with a Windows prompt with some bashrc stuff

[hasty wedge]

yes

[vernal yoke]

or a Windows computer with bash aliased to cmd?

[hasty wedge]

it's a ubuntu

[vernal yoke]

whassa ubuntu

:P

Ubuntu is a name lol

Not a...thing

[hasty wedge]

it's my daily drive computer

[vernal yoke]

I use Windows because I like it :P

[hasty wedge]

I use ubuntu because RP2040 SDK

[vernal yoke]

Let me guess

Either it's Linux only

or

You have to compile

using MINGW-W64

[hasty wedge]

It's hard to setup on Windows

for ubuntu I just grab raspberry pi's one click setup script

and run it

I am fine with Linux

[vernal yoke]

It...doesn't even tell you how to build it?

[hasty wedge]

I draw on it, write my code on it, and develop my game on it

[hasty wedge]

basically

no official guide

[vernal yoke]

Wait

CMake

Doesn't that mean

[hasty wedge]

they expect you to use a Raspberry Pi 4 as a development machine anyway

[vernal yoke]

you can use Visual Studio's build stuff?

[hasty wedge]

no

visual studio don't do gcc

or I should say it's not designed to take advantage of gcc

I am going back to my work now

[vernal yoke]

Oh wait

It needs

GCC

Well, then it probably means you need MSYS2 and MINGW

aka 🤮

[vernal yoke]

Bye!

[hasty wedge]

well

if you can compile Cortex-M on MSVC

you can go MSVC

no one is stopping you

[lusty fossil]

What's the generic term for an aunt or an uncle? Is there one? For sister/brother we have sibling

Auntle?

[silver shale]

Extended family

[lusty fossil]

Dang I was hoping for something specific

Oh well, this is why language is malleable. We can make a word

[wooden schooner]

Unct

[stoic mesa]

someone already did: https://www.dictionary.com/e/aunt-uncle-niece-nephew-words/

[hasty wedge]

running some old stuff on my ESP12

I am surprised that Thonny even supports this version

[lusty fossil]

Pibling is a good one. Filing that away. Thanks @stoic mesa

[hasty wedge]

there's no point using it though, since adafruit dropped support for this poor controller

[ocean sigil]

It is supported by MicroPython

[honest jolt]

1-bit blinka lol

[hasty wedge]

[hasty wedge]

congrat

[honest jolt]

lol ty
it wasn't as hard as i expected it to be haha

maybe 5 lines, 3 if you don't count imports

[hasty wedge]

that's the magic of circuitpython

tbh circuitpython on RP2040 put Arduino in an awkward place

if you need to build sth quick, use circuitpython; if you need it to run fast, use C SDK

I ported one of my project from Arduino to RP2040 C SDK, and the Arduino version had more lines of code than the C SDK version

[honest jolt]

I would use the C SDK but setting up was a nightmare

And I still can't wrap my head how in the world CMake works

And going into UF2 mode to upload another binary was annoying - CircuitPython automatically reloads for you!

[hasty wedge]

there's a RP2040 C SDK setup script available for debian based linux(ubuntu, Raspberry Pi OS etc)

for CMake, a VSCode extension can automatically does everything for you

and for uploading the firmware, you can use a SWD probe like picoprobe

I am using a Trinkey QT2040 as a picoprobe

[tardy badger]

decided to sell the ESP32-S2 feather compatible board I designed

If only though I could source ESP32-S2 Mini Modules as cheaply as Adafruit

I couldn't imagine buying 1000x or more

[honest jolt]

On Windows lol

[honest jolt]

Don't really like VSCode 😦

[honest jolt]

Only have 1 pico 😢

[stoic mesa]

have you seen Shawn Hymel's tutorial on installing the tool chain for C SDK on Windows?

[silver shale]

RPIs make good backup servers

[honest jolt]

not yet

[stoic mesa]

I highly recommend it
https://shawnhymel.com/2096/how-to-set-up-raspberry-pi-pico-c-c-toolchain-on-windows-with-vs-code/

[wanton thistle]

that moment during the night when you want to do stuff but your body is like "nope, time for rest" 😭

[vernal yoke]

OH GOD MINGW

Wait wait wait wait...

Oh

That isn't too bad

[honest jolt]

I did follow the official guide on installing on Windows
Lost about 7 GB of space + an hour for a successful build
NMake doesn't even work on my computer so I had to scroll through GitHub and find out that I should build for Ninja Makefiles and use Ninja

[vernal yoke]

What about Visual Studio?

Wait

Hm

Okay...

Oh

NMake doesn't even work on my computer
Why?

If Visual Studio uses it, it probably works

...Ninja...

[honest jolt]

I have not yet set up to use Visual Studio yet as I figured out that there were CircuitPython libraries for my hardware - only figured out how to compile examples
For the record I was trying to make a macro pad using the Pimoroni RGB keypad base - they provided C SDK and MicroPython libraries
MicroPython doesn't have good HID support like CircuitPython
But the button reader had a library in the Community bundle and there is DotStar support in CircuitPython so that's what I'm using

[honest jolt]

This is what was happening to me basically: https://github.com/raspberrypi/pico-examples/issues/141

bruh?

And this: https://github.com/raspberrypi/pico-examples/issues/152

[vernal yoke]

I saw something about encodings, what about Powershell?

[honest jolt]

I don't want to touch powershell and I'm pretty sure the same problem exists in PS

[vernal yoke]

Oh wait

Yeah

[honest jolt]

And I still don't get the TinyUSB examples either lol too used to Arduino framework

(or PlatformIO)

[vernal yoke]

Okay then

[wooden schooner]

what is the safest way to dispose of an almost-finished aerosol container of Raid that is not spraying out a usable mist but still has some compressed gas? Just spray it into a plastic bag until the sound dies out?

[crystal ore]

I'd be inclined to just take it outside and spray into the air.

[wooden schooner]

is it not bad to spray an insecticide into the open air where people live?

[lusty fossil]

It's def not gonna be beneficial to anyone but I'd be surprised if it hurt

Spraying into a bag would mitigate any concerns for your neighbors but I'd wear at least your basic covid mask if not something more capable

[fading hare]

Safest for you or safest for the environment? For you, just throw it away, maybe even in your neighbor's garbage can. 😉 For the environment, well, you shouldn't have bought Raid to begin with. Maybe just squash the ants, or wasps, or whatever bothers you. Raid contains Cypermethrin and Imiprothrin, two ingredients that are dangerous to your respiratory system.

Definitely do not spray Raid out directly into the air if you live in a suburban/urban area as it may affect your neighbors and random people walking down the street.

The funny part about all of the toxicity studies on these chemicals is that they were performed on rats, rabbits, fish, and birds. It's like, how do you know if a bird has developed asthma? Can they? Or, how do you know that a human won't develop a cancer based on this chemical? I mean, we find out 30-60 years later.

"Sure, this chemical didn't completely melt this here rabbit in the span of 8 hours. Gotta be safe for use!"

[umbral phoenix]

our local recycler will take depleted aerosol containers

(whether they actually recycle it, or anything they pick up, is a mystery for the ages)

[fading hare]

Yeah, it totally depends on what country you live in (but since you mentioned Raid I am assuming the US) and what state, because they all have different regulations.

[wooden schooner]

is spraying Raid into nooks and crannies more dangerous than sprinkling boric acid?

[fading hare]

On a scale, yeah, probably a lot more dangerous.

Boric Acid has a medium lethal dose (LD50) of 2,660 mg/kg body mass. You have to eat, or inhale, large amounts to die. I bet you don't have to inhale a lot of Raid to die.

I think Raid contains white mineral oil, which in itself is not super good for you to eat. 😉

[copper flint]

crap wrong board my bad

[wooden schooner]

so why the heck do people use Raid? Is it more effective in some way?

[fading hare]

Human volunteers given dermal doses of [Cypermethrin] 130 μg/cm2 on the earlobe experienced local tingling and burning sensations. One man died after eating a meal cooked in a 10% cypermethrin/oil mix that was mistakenly used for cooking oil.

lol

Raid is super good at, and fast, at paralyzing insects.

[wooden schooner]

I would have hoped that, like, the designers of Raid would take into account safety for the intended use case

[fading hare]

I mean, I bet someone said that about Agent Orange, at some point in history.

[wooden schooner]

I don't know how to interpret that comment

[fading hare]

The designers of Raid have made sure it doesn't (in any significant way) kill fish and birds, and various other things in nature, such as rabbits, rats, and what have you.

[lusty fossil]

I think he's saying our descendants will cringe that we used raid.

But the raid in this case is just propellant gases at this pt right?

[fading hare]

They were given 130 microgram on a square centimeter of their earlobe, and they felt like it was burning/tingling. That's not a whole lot.

[wooden schooner]

well, I do have the almost-finished can of off-brand insecticide, but I also spray it around the edges of a particular window to keep out pests

[fading hare]

So, if you inhale it directly, you might not feel anything at all. Or, if you are at risk for asthma or whatever, it might still not affect you, but, it may, and that's enough for me to not use it without an N-95 mask on.

[wooden schooner]

yeah, I'll use a mask while spraying it -- I'm concerned primarily about the effects of having it sitting on the edges of my window

[fading hare]

And, depending on how close you sit to that window, or sleep to it, there might be particles on your furniture or bed.

And, obviously, a build-up of that can become... bad.

[wooden schooner]

yeah, it's behind a curtain in the living room, with no chairs against that wall. But it is in the living room

[fading hare]

I don't even know what the degradation rates of this stuff is, but I'm guessing it doesn't just disappear into thin air randomly.

[wooden schooner]

it does need reapplication ~1x/mo

[fading hare]

then you're fine, but I'd still wear a mask when you spray it, and make sure you don't have any pets or other things that go back there until it's dried

Honestly, I would never use Raid inside.

[wooden schooner]

yeah that's what I'm starting to feel iffy about

[fading hare]

I have used Raid or something similar outside maybe twice in 4 years. To kill a massive ant colony that lived somewhere underneath our house.

Boric acid is useful, and so is salt with iodine. Ants will not go near it (unless it gets wet, then they somehow don't care as much after it dries)

[wooden schooner]

I'm assuming there is an effectively infinite population of ants outside

though if that were actually true that would be a literal nightmare

[fading hare]

I used to have problems with ants in my parent's house. I lived in the basement. I'd see anything from ants to larger insects. I eventually started putting down lines of salt and boric acid across all the window sills, and I stopped having visitors. It was either that, or their heads on tiny stakes outside in the flower bed. Hard to tell.

[fading hare]

there's a finite amount... but, you have to kill the queen

[wooden schooner]

idk how to do that

I guess what I could try is, wiping down the edges of that window and then applying boric acid to them instead

[fading hare]

Might want to give it a try and see if it helps.

Because boric acid is way safer, I mean, you can even eat small amounts of it without becoming sick.

I only kill insects in the most ridiculous way possible. Ground hornets, the ones that live in holes in the ground. Those vicious things. I kill them with stealth. Stealth and kerosene.

[wooden schooner]

I don't know what the relevant safety calculation is -- for all I know, there could be a substance that is toxic if eaten but is safer than boric acid for the use case I'm using it for

[fading hare]

Well. Why don't you sit down and drink 8 gallons of water right now, in one fell swoop? Everything will kill you, eventually.

It's like tryptophan makes you sleepy? I mean, if you ate like 30 turkeys.

[wooden schooner]

I don't understand what point you are making. It sounds like you are basically just agreeing with my comment

[fading hare]

I'm saying that boric acid, for this type of application, is super safe.

[lusty fossil]

Sorry to say...

[wooden schooner]

that is good to know 🙂 hopefully it does the job well enough

[fading hare]

Even if you have children with oral fixations, or pets that really like to lick things, it should still be safe.

[lusty fossil]

There's actually a war going on under our feet (if you're American). There's an invasive ant species currently decimating native ants

[fading hare]

And, there's these dumb bees/hornets or whatever that kill our bees, too.

Honey is a very important byproduct. Not because it's sweet, but because it functions as an excellent immune-booster. If you eat local honey. But, if you live in a concrete jungle, that's going to be harder.

[wooden schooner]

what is worse about global honey that decreases the immunity benefit?

preservatives or something?

[fading hare]

But, if they come up with a new Agent Orange that only kills Bradford Pear trees and only a minimal amount of the population gets cancer, I am almost willing to chance it.

[fading hare]

They're not local to your surroundings, so you do not get any boost against allergies of your local flora.

[wooden schooner]

oh whoa

[lusty fossil]

Lots of people swear by local honey for mild allergies

[fading hare]

Local honey is amazing.

But, I am not sure if it would help me here, in NC. It hates me. I love it when it's green and pretty, but I long for the long, cold, death of winter.

North Carolina is fortunate to have a great diversity of woody plant species in its extensive forests, with approximately 655 species of trees, shrubs, subshrubs, and woody vines (491 native and 164 introduced).

Fortunate is one way to put it.

Where I grew up in Sweden there were like 20, perhaps? Hahahaa.

In other news, my little Mini PiTFT has a dead pixel. Fortunately towards the bottom right of the panel. We should organize a burial for it. Maybe a ship burning? Or a stone laying?

(no I have not pushed directly on the screen when installing it)

So. How do I even find a Debian Buster image to download?!

Like, some pages have switched to oldstable link structures, but, it just doesn't exist on the debian.org pages, other than vestiges of documentation. Can't find downloads for it...

oooh, finding now in mirrors

but it's odd that it's completely gone from the main Debian archives right now

http://debian.gtisc.gatech.edu/debian/dists/Debian10.11/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ that path...

but I can't find any already built images

hmm

I'm Linux-dumb today.

and there nowhere in here either http://archive.debian.org/debian/

I think... this might be it: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/10.11.0/i386/

there's NO links anywhere on the downloads pages to get there

[blissful roost]

Another long and uneventful night shift over. 👍

[vernal yoke]

KEROSEEENE!

The pinnacle of stealth

[manic tide]

I want myself a windows mobile 2003 pocket pc

And don't know which to choose

[dusk oracle]

i have been looking at amd mobile ryzen chips been trying to grab a working laptop board, sometimes i get a good chipset, with just a homemade heatsink or mod it two it can be great a gaming board on the cheap.

[late fulcrum]

I think some of them were based on the StrongARM CPU, they might be a good choice.

[manic tide]

There's so much to choose from

I can name you the list of what my local store have

[late fulcrum]

I'm kind of surprised you found a store with multiple choices

[manic tide]

Nobody wants to buy an orange pi

Even though it's an official raspberry pi distributer

I first looked through my favorite electronics shop, and was shocked by high prices

Then I looked through this store, and kinda returned back to normal state, untill I paid attention to "show only in stock" checkbox

[silver shale]

they dev their boards

generally avoid Allwinner from experience

[vagrant sonnet]

Agreed - cough C.H.I.P cough

[lusty fossil]

Wow dog boarding costs way less than I thought

[wooden schooner]

What's the neighborhood

Also, any hot takes on this? https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/12/the-critical-log4shell-zero-day-affects-a-whos-who-of-big-cloud-services/

[lusty fossil]

Of prices? 40-70 dollars per night. Wayyyyy less than I was anticipating.

[wooden schooner]

Oh, that's more than I (knowing nothing) would have guessed

If they host, say, ten dogs per night per person, that's a pretty good spoils

I bet my thinking is off by at least an order of magnitude

[lusty fossil]

I was expecting to have to pay well over 100 dollars each night to have my dog stay in a dogless household

But nope. 45 bucks

[wooden schooner]

Oh, dogless, yeah that makes sense

[lusty fossil]

Me: doesn't exercise
Also me: has to cut a bunch of romex by hand
Also Also me: cries

What is grip strength

[burnt tendon]

Get a grip.

[lusty fossil]

Lol

[stoic mesa]

what is Romex?

[lusty fossil]

That's what my coworkers called it. Just hi gauge solid core wire

Or I guess low gauge

[stoic mesa]

I prefer stranded - easier to cut https://preview.redd.it/15a8vyl7y6s41.jpg?auto=webp&s=57a7732cf73fc988f2ac8dddaeb3a8f56702825c

just exercise your jaws!

[lusty fossil]

Lol

[silver shale]

Now that SoC now is not the only ARM TQFP that can run Linux.

[weary fiber]

Just repasted/padded a GPU for the first time!

was terrifying, especially on a 3080 and my only GPU

but it worked and I have a 15℃ improvement

[lusty fossil]

Anyone know anything about the sale of ancient coins? My stepdad has a big milestone coming up and I want to get him a suitably cool ancient coin. Is my budget of 300 dollars laughably low?

[real falcon]

depends on how rare it is now. though if its gold then yeah unlikely to be that cheap

depends on lot of factors really

[lusty fossil]

yeah def doesn't need to have intrinsic value.

[lusty fossil]

That makes sense, I'll just peruse the coin sites and see if I can filter by price

[real falcon]

yeah and compare for same coin elsewhere

see if its ripoff or not

[lusty fossil]

I don't want to get ripped off, but if I accidentally buy a fake coin I don't care as long as he likes it and doesn't try to sell it

[real falcon]

yeah though try not get fakeis

[lusty fossil]

Yeah I'll ask around. I think there are coin stores near here and if they don't have what I want, they might be able to give advice

[real falcon]

🙂

[lusty fossil]

thx

[blissful roost]

I have a two-shilling coin from 1966 that is worth a decent amount to some people. lol

[lusty fossil]

nice

Keep it safe and only have it professionally cleaned. If I've learned anything from binging pawn stars clips on YT, it's that never clean your coins yourself

[real falcon]

certainly no polishing

[crystal ore]

I used to have some Roman coins when I was a kid, so I think the starting price for stuff like that can be quite low, depending on quality and rarity, etc.

[late fulcrum]

Why never clean coins yourself?

[tardy badger]

Patina

I probably spelled that wrong

Might be more important for cars and collectible memorabilia

[real falcon]

polishing is expecially bad, since it removes some of metal, making it less valuable, and loses orginial condition and value on that

[lusty fossil]

I was hoping for something from historical Judea but I imagine that's costly

coin people, like any interest group, are passionate about their hobby. It's fun to observe from the outside but I don't see myself ever getting seriously interested

[quartz wren]

o/

[stoic mesa]

like this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304257924381

Disclaimer: i know next to othing about coins

[lusty fossil]

I was looking at this one but I don't know if I trust their "certificate of authenticity" https://zaksantiquities.com/shop/ancient-coins/jewish-revolt-coins-for-sale/coins-first-jewish-revolt/freedom-to-zion-ancient-coin/

[stoic mesa]

better talk to someone who knows this stuff

[lusty fossil]

antiquities is rife with fraud and criminals unfortunately

yeah I'll stop by a coin shop

just thought there are lots of eclectic interests around here, even odds someone who's been collecting coins for 20 years would chime in

[velvet pelican]

Under cabinet lighting finally got put in @jovial swift went with rgb leds

[cinder crown]

Never split the difference is about how to argue effectively

It's an AMAZING book and one of the best I know at just "I need to learn this skill quickly and efficiently, teach me"

it's a little.... long at times, but worth it

[lusty fossil]

Nice thanks

[cinder crown]

and don't be afraid to try something new, a new role or whatever

if you think you can get the job done, even if you don't meet the reqs, apply anyway

[lusty fossil]

That I decided to do. Unfortunately in my field, in my area (which I'm tied to for now) jobs are scarce unless you're extremely experienced. I found something that works for now

it's better than my last job. On paper it was a decent job, though not decently paid. Unfortunately, it was easy. Nothing I can't stand more than unending easy work.

[cinder crown]

yea, currently I have an extremely challenging job in R&D. We fail 30-40% of the time as a team.

[lusty fossil]

R&D is cool.

[cinder crown]

and my management is cool with basically "No risk, no reward"

[lusty fossil]

yeah I have little room for failure which is stressful

[cinder crown]

mhmm, my last job was a lot more... prescribed? exact? and failure was untolerated. Perfection was the minimum, but the job was mindless. follow step A to completion, then b. did it work? Yes -> NEXT No -> Trouble ticket essentially

boring and pays mediocre sucks

[lusty fossil]

Yuuuup. I quit suddenly because the job market was booming and I couldn't take it anymore. In January of 2020. Learned a tough lesson.

[wooden schooner]

What was the lesson?

[lusty fossil]

Don't do that lol

[wooden schooner]

How did you learn it

[lusty fossil]

Hunger, desperation, all the ways.

[wooden schooner]

Job market wasn't booming in your specific corner?

[lusty fossil]

I did a bunch of freelance work but I'm pretty happy where I am now fortunately

[wooden schooner]

I'm not understanding why you say the job market was booming if you had difficulty finding a job. Was it that yes the job hunting was comparatively easy, but you underestimated how long it would take?

[lusty fossil]

it was booming. In January of 2020

Then 2020 happened

Most places stopped hiring for months if not years

[wooden schooner]

Oh and you didn't already have your next job when yeah

[lusty fossil]

yeahh

Everything at the old job was just too much. I had a lot of savings so I was OK for a while fortunately

[wooden schooner]

Many people say line up your next job before leaving, but I don't think that's always possible

[lusty fossil]

It isn't always, but I could have tried harder.

[wooden schooner]

Could have, but I'm inclined to say good on you for knowing what you're willing to tolerate and leaving before things got worse in that old company

[lusty fossil]

They talked about me getting a better role but given how I'd just been treated (don't want to air dirty laundry) I didn't trust them

[wooden schooner]

I am in the last two weeks of my job too. No next job lined up yet, gonna live on savings for a bit

My boss was absolutely deaf to my concerns

[lusty fossil]

Good luck! Certain industries (service, hospitality, food) are hiring like crazy but that may not be what you want

Every restaurant near me has help wanted signs.

[wooden schooner]

Thanks! Not even sure what industry I'll go into tbh, but probably something "technical"

[lusty fossil]

Nice.

[wooden schooner]

Definitely in a fortunate position to have software engineering skills, which are both in demand and applicable across a wide range of industries

[lusty fossil]

and usually well suited to remote work.

I do mechatronics basically. Gotta be by the physical system

[wooden schooner]

Yeah. High cool factor, from the outside at least

[lusty fossil]

it's pretty neat. So far I've just been working on undocumented systems designed by people not here. I get to do my own system from scratch next year

[wooden schooner]

Nice

What is a system in this context?

[lusty fossil]

to be vague, something with blinky blinkies and movey moveys

[quartz wren]

Well folks. I found a new favorite instrument. Bass guitar.

I don't think I ever played a regular guitar enough in one session to wear my fingers down so far and still want to keep playing

[wooden schooner]

I have recently been working with roboticists and learned that many of them don't do physical things much at all

[lusty fossil]

there's a good bit of math involved

[quartz wren]

But I played for like an hour and fifteen minutes yesterday and at least an hour and a half today

And my body is wrecked, especially my fingertips

Erm excuse me

Two and a half today

Lol

There's levels of damage to my finger pads I've never experienced before lolol

But I just want to get back to it though I know I need to heal for a bit

[wooden schooner]

Calluses come pretty quick, I think

[quartz wren]

Yeah but quicker if you don't let the skin fully tear

And it's close to that rn

I'll be back at it day after tomorrow probably hahaha

Might even end up getting too much of an itch and just have to go play tomorrow with tape on my fingers lolol

I might be a savage

I'm going to be killing some bass solos soon mark my words

I've already figured out a method to do triplets with my thumb in alternating sets of initial stroke directions to make the flow more natural and I can do it pretty fast with just a couple hours of practice

Just need to keep at it every day once my body is used to it and with how enjoyable it is that doesn't seem like it's going to be an issue

Then I'll be able to jam with my dad on guitar and me on bass

I think he would really enjoy that and I haven't jammed with him on anything but the drums when he was on guitar

So I'm super down

[lusty fossil]

I'm not sure if there's something more annoying than a secondary subtitle over normal subtitles saying [speaking <language>]

I get that it's for the deaf but they need to read the subtitles that are covered up, too!

[viscid kiln]

interesting little board
https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1462514806188130315?t=RUSXrlym1J5WfHZJsx8_0Q&s=19

[lusty fossil]

Electronics store near me uses one of of these. Different model though

[vagrant sonnet]

I imagine that takes some doing to not let the magic smoke out of anything. Impressive!

[wary herald]

Is admin or mod a higher role in the hierarchy??

Imma say admin, but IDK

[lusty fossil]

I think admin

They appear first?

In ye olden days of yore on random forums I was on, admin >>mod >>user

[wary herald]

XD

I know that Deep Diver is under CircuitPythonista

[lusty fossil]

I don't think anything below mod has any power

Or rank

[wary herald]

Right

[lusty fossil]

It's just different flavors of pleb

Lol

[wary herald]

hehe

[lusty fossil]

Like I don't think any of the helpers can ban people but I don't know for sure

[wary herald]

I changed my name to the Artful Bodger in another Discord

[wary herald]

Nah, that'd be too op

sudo ban admin ladyada

haha

[lusty fossil]

You'll get the "you are not a sudoer, this has been reported" msg

[wary herald]

We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local Discord Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things: #1) Respect the privacy of others. #2) Think before you type. #3) With great power comes great responsibility.

[lusty fossil]

lol

[fading hare]

My day so far: I read the 3 mentions I had on this server and marked everything else as read. Then I proceeded to mark every other server I am on as read. But, at least my friend isn't getting deported from Canada. OK, so fine, I read some stuff here and there.

[lusty fossil]

that's great news for your friend!

[wanton thistle]

So I have to ask: Has anyone encountered toxicity or gate keeping in other maker communities? I feel that around here, people are pretty supportive and informative and dont really dislike idea's or gate keep behind them. If people want to do something, unless its impractical and wont work, Ive found that people here are pretty encouraging with things.

But, Ive been coming across an intense form of gate keeping when you get into more complex projects. It feels as times that you kind of...shouldnt post about it, since people kind of put you down. So im interested to hear if anyone else has had the same experience in other maker communities outside of the electrical sense of making.

[umbral phoenix]

is that a thing... to mark a whole server as read? I just leave everything unread except the few channels I pay attention to

lol, I just discovered the Inbox

[fading hare]

yup, right-click and mark as read

[wanton thistle]

right click on the server

[wanton thistle]

what he said

[fading hare]

or hold down and press on mobile

[umbral phoenix]

dang, that's brutal

[fading hare]

you can also put servers in folders, and mark the entire folder as read

[lusty fossil]

It's an issue in tech in general.

[lusty fossil]

Adafruit does a wonderful job of fostering a community that is nothing like that

[umbral phoenix]

that still sounds like a lot of work, I don't mind having things unread. Now if there were red bubbles...

[fading hare]

I've definitely noticed that through my years of being a software developer. I try to actively remember to not be a douche canoe and do it to others.

[fading hare]

the red bubbles I always read, and the channels that I find might have something I could answer, or find amusing. But, if I'm having a "cat-dragged-me-out-in-the-rain-and-left-me-there" day, I'll most likely just skim the red dots and then be flippant and mark everything read for that day.

[umbral phoenix]

the direct @s and replies I look at, and I've turned off all the stupid generic everyone-type notifications everywhere. I just meant that if simply being unread was a red bubble, that would be a nightmare

[fading hare]

it's an issue in life, really... try telling someone with a Master's in English about your urge to write a novel, or about some kind of research you're doing on etymology, or whatever. 😉

[wanton thistle]

yes and someone will kick you down

[fading hare]

yeah, I meant more like when the channel is highlighted, like

[wanton thistle]

and its like "Well ok then, show me the thing you did and how you failed"

[fading hare]

I find that people with expensive and laudable educations are often way more elitist.

[wanton thistle]

"or did you just not do the thing?"

[lusty fossil]

I think there's a difference between gentle correction and what you see in tech forums. People seem to think that because they know something you don't, they are fundamentally better humans. Hate that attitude.

[wanton thistle]

Thats just it! The elitist attitude.

[fading hare]

Can't stand it. I've faced it my entire life. No formal education. Just been in the biz a long time.

[wanton thistle]

"Oh you cant do something or try to improve something because this is how its been made for x amount of time"

[wanton thistle]

This too!

[fading hare]

"Can't do that, it's not in the [insert whatever dumb book they read 10 years ago] best practices"

Wasn't asking if I should do it, just if I could. I don't need you to make decisions for me. I'm a grown man, and if I want to attach a rocket to a shopping cart and launch myself off of my roof, then that's my prerogative.

[wanton thistle]

I was discussing this with a friend and I made a revelation. I likened it to bread. Sure I can go buy a loaf of bread. But you'll find tons of communities where you can learn how and they will be more than open to helping you. No one bats at eye at bread making though. no one says, "Oh dont do that, just go buy a loaf"

But yet you change topics into anything STEAM related and you're met with gate keeping

[fading hare]

STEAM? As in? You're building a locomotive?

or STEM?

[wanton thistle]

and if I waste/time money while, so what? I'll document the process so others can learn

[wanton thistle]

haha, I always thought it was STEAM because A stands for the Arts

thats how it was when I went to makerfaires anyway

[fading hare]

hahahaha, there's art in all the other letters, so there doesn't need to be an explicit A in there

[wanton thistle]

and TBH I do want to build a working steam engine

Like a small model one.

[fading hare]

(just stay away from messing around with nuclear material in your garage like what's-his-face did, that's how you condemn an entire subdivision, and or go to prison for eco-crimes or some other thing)

[wanton thistle]

I have many many books and have built ones that run on air. But havent worked my way up to building a pressure vessel yet

[wanton thistle]

I found out he passed away actually. His house is a superfund site

[fading hare]

I gotta follow up on that one. I wonder if Wavywebsurf ever did a "what happened to fusion reactor in the garage guy?"

[wanton thistle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

[fading hare]

that's the guy!

Entrepreneurial spirit: 10
Imagination: 10
Tinker Rating: 10
Smoke Detector Theft: x2 bonus
Scientific Knowledge: 5 (very narrow)
Safety Measures: 0

[wanton thistle]

but he was a bit crazy and if wikipedia is to be believed, seemed lead a sad life

[fading hare]

Pretty sure people said that about Einstein too. Archimedes, that nerd, he wrote a bunch of math and stuff until a Roman soldier killed him, by accident. Probably didn't seem to be that important of a person to the soldier. Hardly no muscles on that guy. Nobody really cared about him until ~300 years later when someone smart enough decided that it's probably a good idea to save what this dude wrote.

I am not sure if Da Vinci wouldn't have built a nuclear reactor somewhere close to human beings, if they knew about atomic reactions back then. 😄

OMG my Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W arrived!

[crystal ore]

Newton as well was a decidedly eccentric sort of guy. A thin line between genius and madman, sometimes.

[fading hare]

I knew that, but, I never knew he was Warden and then Master of the Royal Mint. Wikipedia teaches me something every day.

[wary herald]

in like Stack Overflow??

[fading hare]

I think they meant more like other Discord servers/IRC/forums, maybe?

[umbral phoenix]

SO somments can be very dismissive if an "expert" has an Opinion.

questions get closed because the answer would be an opinion, but all answers are opinions

unless it's like the math exchange

[harsh goblet]

This community is excellent. Unfortunately, in many discord servers I've been met with condescending or arrogant tones only for people to hide behind Poe's Law. I find that this attitude is very common in the computing world.

It can be very discouraging.

[stoic mesa]

not only in computing.
Worst flamewars I had seen were in cooking communities/forums

[lusty fossil]

I just want to know which ones so I can post pics of my cast iron stuck in the dish washer

I love upsetting snooty people

[harsh goblet]

You're asking for trouble 😆

[lusty fossil]

I'm comfortable with that

[umbral phoenix]

refrains from commenting about cast iron 😉

I am so not snooty though

[lusty fossil]

oh I know not to do that, it would just be trolling.

[umbral phoenix]

lol

[lusty fossil]

Interestingly you can pretty safely use regular dish soap on your cast iron. It doesn't contain lye so it doesn't rip up the seasoning

[harsh goblet]

I always used soap on my cast iron

Just a couple drops though

[lusty fossil]

Are you from Kentucky btw?

[harsh goblet]

I am not

[lusty fossil]

ah ok

[harsh goblet]

It's a song

[lusty fossil]

I was gonna express sadness for the storm but I guess I can still do that

[harsh goblet]

Absolutely

It's terribly sad

[lusty fossil]

truly horrendous

[wanton thistle]

Yes. People telling me "oh dont do this" or "do it this way" or "you can just buy it"

Yea well, what if I want to learn and mess up?

[wanton thistle]

this, exactly. Like I said, you go into the cooking world and unless you put ketchup on steak or end up on r/stupidfood , no body really cares how much you spend on food or your methods.

it just emboldens me more to prove them wrong.

[wooden schooner]

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
—Theodore Roosevelt

[wooden schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjayK62XBCE

[wanton thistle]

What I want to do: if you've ever heard of the gingery machine series, I want to do that, but modernize it and cheat as much as I can. Ive got things laid out in CAD. Went to the metal yard and picked up some metal. Have a BOM going. So I joined another server to ask questions...and was promptly shot down with various gatekeeping statements.

"Oh you can just buy one for the amount you will spend"
My response: Yea but...I dont know if the ways are worn down. I also cant get it into my basement (only have stairs). Theres also a few people who DIY cnc's who've inspired me to do it the same way (not CNC but manual). Theres some videos on YT where people have done it as well. Those are my inspiration

I'll admit, I dont have a mech engineering degree. But..I can understand drawings. I know how these things work. I understand enough about engineering to get me by. And heck, Ive been reading literature from the 1900s to see how they did it back then.

[wanton thistle]

ahhhh Teddy. Probably one of my (one) and only favorite presidents.

[wary herald]

I see

[wary herald]

I do like SO, and I've gotten many problems fixed with them

[lusty fossil]

SO is 50/50 for me

I've gotten some great assistance there. I've also had my unique questions dismissed as irrelevant.

[umbral phoenix]

I do too, in general

[wary herald]

I do have some complaints, but they are still good in general

[wary herald]

👍

[quartz wren]

o/

hey folks

[lusty fossil]

me: Eats a ton of ranch style beans last night.
also me: Has terrible stomach cramps last night
also also me: Does it all over again

[stoic mesa]

I am always amazed by Math Overflow. It is like stack overflow but for mathematicians.
They are very strict about not allowing questions "can you help me do this homework". But if you have a serious math question - from finding best reference for some obscure result to cutting edge open questions in math - you get great responses there. Answered by professional mathematicians, from PhD students to Fields Medal winners

[lusty fossil]

that's pretty awesome

[stoic mesa]

I have seen references to math overflow in published papers

[wooden schooner]

I appreciate how some really famous people take great care to write good answers on MO. I would have expected them to not deign to

[drowsy zephyr]

excuse me, is anyone here a master's at engineering from the uk?

[wooden schooner]

Original message was deleted.

[blissful roost]

I'm sure men would do well to understand them too, but that wasn't really the context I was aiming for with the ironic sarcasm.

As a man, I think it's misplaced to expect that men can understand... It's hard enough to even relate.

I did assume that it would be taken as subjective, so.. my mistake.

Also, I think it would be a gross assertion on my part if I was to imply that women and non-binary persons would need as much educating as men.

[umbral phoenix]

Is there a good technical or user experience reason why many big websites whose main function for a given page is search, to not put the cursor focus in the search field by default? so frustrating

like Amazon... the search field is the only thing on the page you can type into... why not put focus there ? I start typing and the text goes nowhere

[wooden schooner]

Original message was deleted.

[drowsy zephyr]

Or does anyone know about UK's universities?

[quartz wren]

Okay I guess I'll just say hello to myself. @quartz wren hi there!

[blissful roost]

I certainly have no objection to removing it, as I have done. 👍

[wooden schooner]

Thanks, I appreciate that.

[wooden schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/self-five-tina-fey-high-five-gif-3567986

[drowsy zephyr]

or does anyone know any engineering universities that have international scholarships in the US or UK?

[lusty fossil]

in the US there are a number

But they are hard to get

I can't offer any advice on getting one unfortunately

[drowsy zephyr]

what about in the UK?

[lusty fossil]

That I don't know. My good friend got into a PhD program there. But this is a guy who finished a bachelor's and master's in mechanical engineering in under 4 years

so I think he could have gone anywhere he wanted

[lusty fossil]

I've been complaining about the cold all day only to come home and see the thermostat just reads 66F

There's a small chance I've allowed myself to become accustomed to warm weather.

Tbf it's gonna be warmer inside than out but still.

[blissful roost]

Move to England. 😛

[lusty fossil]

No thanks. I'm happy to visit but I'm not moving any further north from the equator for any reason. My bones can't handle the cold. Grew up in WA, hated nearly every minute

[blissful roost]

lol

[lusty fossil]

I was supposed to go to England when I was younger but then 7/7/7 happened and the trip got changed to Ireland. Ireland was neat.

I have friends in Scotland.

England's on my list of places.

Next up is Latvia.

[blissful roost]

Oof

[lusty fossil]

Latvia because it's cheap for Europe and I've heard good things.

The food looks good. I have food allergies though so I may have to get a room with a kitchen and cook for myself.

[stoic mesa]

While you are at it, visit Estonia as well

[lusty fossil]

I usually feel pretty tall in America, I bet I'd feel pretty miniscule there lol.

Tallest people on earth iirc

[wary herald]

3rd tallest

only 0.5 inches taller than Americans

I read

[wary herald]

What's 7/7/7?

[lusty fossil]

There was a terrorist attack on July 7th 2007, in London.

[wooden schooner]

2005 I think

[lusty fossil]

I was trying to be oblique because I'm not 100% sure it's a good subject for this discord

why did I think it was 7/7/7? It super was 2005

I'm losing my mind

[manic tide]

How do I download every web attachment on an html file?

[wooden schooner]

Popular web browsers often have a "save complete web page" functionality which attempts to do this.

E.g. Firefox had it last I checked.

However, I think the general version of that task is not fully automatable. The choice of how many hops to follow links for is typically one where the right answer is subjective based on the content and graph connectivity of the website.

[manic tide]

I just downloaded some now non-existing discord server, and I have several hours to spare until all of the web cache clears

Most of the attachments are in cdn discord links

[wooden schooner]

Ah, for that idk. I suspect discord might have rules in their tos about how much they want you to scrape.

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the future they come out with a paid offering that has an officially blessed offline mode

[manic tide]

I used Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter and now realised that I forgot to put download media to true

[manic tide]

I'm still here...

[lusty fossil]

it's possible that nobody online knows the answer to your question, unfortunately

[manic tide]

I just accidentally archived a server without attachments... This server is the closest to the topic of this question

[lusty fossil]

can you just delete and re-try?

[manic tide]

The server is already deleted, I can't re-archive something that no longer exists. Only thing I forgot to archive are attachments, that in discord cache for a few hours before being deleteed

[lusty fossil]

Ah I see. Unfortunately I don't know enough to help. It might be impossible.

[manic tide]

Sad

[wooden schooner]

I mean, first of all, saying "I'm still here" does not give anyone enough information to help you, nor does it clearly ask for help.

Next, if you have direct access to the archive, you could potentially write a script to parse it and extract a list of links, then download them wholesale.

The program you use to download them would probably have to be logged into a discord account that has access to the cdn (e.g., your account, or a bot that has permission to act on your behalf).

If it's a reasonably small list of links, you could just use your web browser and paste them into the URL bar one by one. Or you could use a browser extension like DownThemAll.

[manic tide]

well, time to do it manually

[honest jolt]

fumbled with this for a hour or two to come up with this 😆
wanna add base 2, math equations, automatic resizing and packing of them

[wooden schooner]

What will the math equations be?

Also I'm now tempted to make usualclocks.ben-.repl.co

[honest jolt]

HAHA

absolutely no idea, probably like + - * / pow() sqrt()

practice doing math fast

(it's a p5.js thingy: https://unusualclocks.ckyiu.repl.co/)

[wooden schooner]

I am super excited to try making a viz website with clojurescript + vega lite. I know nothing about web front-end and it would be very style-fitting to make my first interactive website in Lisp.

[hasty quarry]

What the heck is hyperbolic trigonometry?

[lusty fossil]

complicated lol

we did it in HS and a bit in college and I can't remember a speck of it

I did enjoy saying cosh,sinh, and tanh because it sounds like a Sean Connery impersonation

[dusty citrus]

from keyboard atlier

[honest jolt]

p5.js does not like drawing text that big lol - only 6 fps with this

[wooden schooner]

depending on what you mean by this question, you might be looking for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_geometry

[jovial swift]

that looks fantastic!

[fading hare]

How tall are you?

[lusty fossil]

6' So above average but not super tall

[velvet pelican]

Now i just got the other two to do and make doors and drawers

[fading hare]

me too (but I am Swedish, so it's a thing)

[lusty fossil]

yeah I've been to Sweden. Very nice, very tall people

[fading hare]

I am not that nice. I've been in America for too long. 😉

[lusty fossil]

Lol

[fading hare]

No, you're compiling GTK+3 on a Raspberry Pi for NO RAISIN.

[late fulcrum]

That's not a nice thing to say! 🤪

[stoic mesa]

🤣

self-fulfilling prophecy

[lusty fossil]

It's funny, many people I've spoken to from overseas think americans are at least on the surface very friendly people. I don't think anyone in the London tube would dream of just starting a conversation with a stranger.

but I don't know for sure

[blissful roost]

I've been married to an American for so long, I accidentally slip little Americanisms into conversations sometimes. 😂

Gets a little annoying when someone asks what a "washcloth" is... Lmao

[lusty fossil]

It's in the name!!

[umbral phoenix]

refreshes What's New page over and over, waiting for all the new MCUs

[quartz wren]

As an American I can say I start conversations with strangers on a regular basis

[fading hare]

You're absolutely right. Same thing in Sweden, at least until I left in 2006, can't imagine it's changed a lot. Here in the US you walk up to a woman at a bus stop, nod and say hi. In Sweden, she breaks out the pepper spray as soon as you address her. 😉

My first week in the Southeastern US (1998): these people are super creepy. They're all smiling and nodding at me. Now that one said hi. What the. Are they all psychos? Also, why do they keep moving away from me? Do I smell? What's wrong with me? What's wrong with them?

[lusty fossil]

My experience as a teen in Finland was that people do not want to talk to you, generally. Shopkeepers will but only because they have to

[harsh goblet]

What is this paradise you all speak of

[lusty fossil]

oooh just remembered, if you order a "pepperoni pizza" in Italy you'll get weird looks and a bell pepper pizza.

maybe some tourist heavy shops will know what you mean but regular places won't necessarily.

[fading hare]

I also got "pulled over" by a sheriff's deputy while taking a walk around the area where my ex-wife lived. He stopped and I was immediately like: "oh, what did I do? Am I going to get shot?" and he rolls the window down and drawls "you need any help with your vehicle, sir" or some such, and I'm dumbfounded. I say, "what?" He says "oh, I figured you'd broken down somewhere, and it's raining" I look at him like he's sprouted two heads and quip, "no sir, just out for a friendly walk." He pulls off and I just stand there, light a cigarette and shake my head for like five minutes.

A few days later we were at a large mall and I saw people get out of one store, get in their car and drive over to the other store. That's when the token went down in the gumball machine. Aha. That deputy thought I was legit only walking because who would walk when you can drive a car? These people just proved it to me by driving 45 meters to go into the other store over there.

What got me for the longest of time though was people's idea of personal space. I also didn't understand why hugging freaked dudes out so much. Like, with their weird slapping on the back and stuff.

Y'all are still weird, though. God bless your little hearts.

[vernal yoke]

That deputy thought I was legit only walking because who would walk when you can drive a car?
Well, maybe you should think about where you were walking...

Is it a busy...uh...no...uh...

High-traffic?

Nah

[fading hare]

I was walking in the countryside, nice little breeze, a light rain. Middle of the summer. It was wonderful.

[vernal yoke]

Commonly-used

That's it

Oh

Rural area?

[fading hare]

Yeah.

[vernal yoke]

Ah

[fading hare]

Dry county, if you know what I mean?

[vernal yoke]

Not particularly

[vernal yoke]

What got me for the longest of time though was people's idea of personal space.

If anyone touches my laptop occasionally when I take it to school: "Don't touch my laptop!"

Or "Don't look at my laptop!"

[fading hare]

Dry county = Overly religious people. No alcohol. (everybody still drives to the next county over to buy beer)

[vernal yoke]

Oh

[fading hare]

this isn't happening... ahhaha, I had to upgrade a library that basically the entire chain of sway depended on, and now I have to recompile everything hahahha

[vernal yoke]

Sway?

[fading hare]

Window Manager based on wlroots and Wayland.

[vernal yoke]

Okay...

Wayland...does Chrome OS use that?

It seems vaguely familiar

[fading hare]

It's used by Manjaro ARM, also by Gnome and ... uh one more.

It's basically like someone took X and printed it out on a dot matrix printer with continuous feed paper, dragged a mile of paper out into a clearing and spent a few hours bunching it all up then set it on fire. And, inside that, grew the tiny, but superfast and elegant phoenix hummingbird that is Wayland.

It supports Vulkan and all kinds of awesomeness. It's ultra-responsive, even on a slower machine like a Pi 400. For instance, Manjaro ARM Sway is amazing.

[wooden schooner]

drop-in replacement for the i3 window manager for X11. It works with your existing i3 configuration and supports most of i3's features, plus a few extras.
time to do some self-edumacation

just learned how one more person pronounces xrandr. Mission accomplished

[lusty fossil]

Is it not "ex rand urr"?

[wooden schooner]

that is how this person pronounces it

I just feel weird saying it that way

like, I assume the etymology is "X R-and-R" -- X11 rest & relaxation

[vernal yoke]

Huh

[vernal yoke]

xer-and-er?

Or ex-rand-er?

[fading hare]

I use the latter one.

But, I am not helpful either, because I am not a native English speaker.

[wooden schooner]

I've never heard anyone say anything except ex-rand-er

and yet I act as if it's ambiguous

[fading hare]

xrandr is a command-line tool to interact with the X RandR

so technically it should be pronounced X R-and-R

Just like that guy wanted us to pronounce it "jiff" but you know what... GIF GIF GIF.

[wooden schooner]

ex-rand-er is a command line tool to interact with the X are-and-are xorg extension

like why does a window system need its own random number generator?

[lusty fossil]

anyone know anything about MediaWiki? I'm looking into methods of documenting my work. I am really attracted to the idea of an internal wiki but it's seeming like there's quite a learning curve. Am I correct that I would need to learn SQL and PHP as well as proper password and account information storage?

[fading hare]

if I have to compile GTK+3 one more time because there's no introspection support in the linked modules I am going to wipe this Raspberry Pi and start over.

Or maybe just turn off introspection.

[lusty fossil]

I may end up just writing a massive LaTeX document.

[fading hare]

[lusty fossil]

I have experience there. Neither method is really friendly to newbs but that's not really my problem

[fading hare]

Now that's a great way to waste away in the outskirts of the known internetverse.

I tried LaTeX in like 1996 or something and I just hated it. I thought it was the dumbest thing on this planet.

[lusty fossil]

it's incredibly powerful and incredibly fiddly

[fading hare]

It's like mod_rewrite.

[lusty fossil]

Most every textbook (and many regular books) were set in some flavor of TeX

Yeah I think I'll go with LaTeX

I wrote my resume in LaTeX, only because I put LaTeX on my resume.

[fading hare]

I replaced you and your ilk with a small shell script that reads and writes Markdown.

Actually, I didn't. What I do do was write a service that took whatever Google Document you fed it and it applied styles, automatically. Then I got bored with it and took it down.

I still have the domain floating around somewhere in the outer tide pools of the shipwreck-covered beach that is the home for all my projects never finished, never forgotten.

[wooden schooner]

thank you for being a mech-e who uses LaTeX. I was horrified to learn that much of the field uses MS Word.

[lusty fossil]

Oh yes. I really impressed a professor by asking her what flavor of LaTeX she uses for her handouts. She said it's the first time in 10 years she'd been asked

I'm no Wiz in LaTeX but I can get aroudn

[vernal yoke]

Getting #general-tech

I think

[lusty fossil]

I wouldn't personally refer to any slurs even by abbreviation.... seems dicey.

[vernal yoke]

Dicey?

[lusty fossil]

What flavor of LaTeX do you use?

[lusty fossil]

On shaky ground

[vernal yoke]

Ah

[wooden schooner]

texlive

[lusty fossil]

Any issues with services like Overleaf?

I have used that in the past

[wooden schooner]

I don't know much about the different flavors

[vernal yoke]

@fading hare I've seen the N word being used online somewhat frequently, probably not black/African-American, but at the same time, it doesn't necessarily refer to them either

Strange

[wooden schooner]

I don't know what Overleaf uses but no I haven't had issues with them

[lusty fossil]

I don't either, people really get attached to their particular brand of TeX and it can be hard to parse the strong emotions from real reasons to use a particular flavor.

[vernal yoke]

I was horrified to learn that much of the field uses MS Word.
What field?

[lusty fossil]

Mechanical Engineering

[vernal yoke]

Ah

And MS Word doesn't have any fancy math stuff, does it?

[lusty fossil]

It does now

It has LaTeX semi-built in.

[wooden schooner]

the fanciest thing they have is very-incomplete latex emulation

[vernal yoke]

Anything...convenient?

[wooden schooner]

last I checked

[lusty fossil]

But I haven't used word in like 6 years

I use google docs if I need to write a quick document that I don't care about.

[wooden schooner]

hm, I haven't seen this. Any idea what functional differences matter to them, if any?

[lusty fossil]

absolutely none

[wooden schooner]

ho boy

that was definitely one of the possibilities

[vernal yoke]

Reminds me of Dropbox Paper, which I use to take notes and stuff a lot

[lusty fossil]

typesetting people are like font people: very passionate

[vernal yoke]

It has a bit of math LaTeX stuff, not complete of course

Utilizes KaTeX or something

[fading hare]

you guys have some fast brains

I can't concentrate on writing when I have to do it in something like LaTeX. I prefer Markdown over anything, I think.

Usually in just Vim or sometimes I'll even break out "distraction free" mode in Visual Studio Code.

My mind is a fragile, fleeting thing at best. 😄

Need to keep it focused.

or... SQUIRREL!

finally... GIR stuff is working again

I was beginning to despair there. I had to uninstall the girepository package from the pi, and then manually compile a newer version, and.... we're back!

I'm always like... why is there a car sitting outside, idling, playing music at 1am in the morning? And then I remember that my neighbor does Uber.

[vernal yoke]

SQUIRREL

[vernal yoke]

EST

Oh wait

North Carolina

[fading hare]

yeah

[vernal yoke]

Anyways

[vernal yoke]

People use that stuff?

Distraction free mode, not Vim

[fading hare]

I do when I write novellas and more creative stuff, yeah.

Technical documentation is all done in Markdown. If you need something more than Markdown to communicate your message, I usually rethink the message, because I just over-complicated things.

[vernal yoke]

Ew I hate Zen mode

[fading hare]

Gets you all antsy?

There's not like five million things around you drowning you with sound, visuals and screaming for your senses to NOTICE THEM?

[vernal yoke]

Ugh

It's centered

The thing

Is centered

#1 crime

[fading hare]

You don't write code in Zen Mode. First off.

I think GTK+ is happy now, it's still compiling.

[vernal yoke]

Oh

[fading hare]

I am hoping that I can get Sway launched on the Pi without having to install Manjaro, because I want to try to run it on the 4x4 Hyperpixel.

[vernal yoke]

Still

[fading hare]

Yeah, Zen Mode is for writing text, creative text.

Can someone just come to my house and install this filament sensor on my Ender 3? Thanks.

[lusty fossil]

I ordered muffins on the internet and I was briefly upset because they slapped a banana nut sticker on the box. I'm allergic to walnuts. My actual order was inside fortunately.

Seems like there's a spam attack happening.

[lusty fossil]

What's a polite way to tell a restaurant that their re-spin of a great dish is just terrible?

I don't want to be one of those people, but it's super bad.

[blissful roost]

I prefer blunt honesty.... But, that's just me.

[lusty fossil]

I don't want to be one of those unpleasant customers. I value my relationship with these people.

[blissful roost]

"So, I was just thinking... The recipe is quite good, but it could probably be better.
You might want to try {something, something}."

[lusty fossil]

I assume it changed because of high beef prices. It used to basically be a small steak with rice and veggies. Now it's strips of lower quality beef

With a worse sauce

In reality I should just stop eating beef so it isn't an issue.

[blissful roost]

Oof

Beef prices have dropped for me.. same for pork.

[lusty fossil]

I'm just guessing
Maybe they got a new chef and the new chef wants to change things up

[fading hare]

They keep saying we can't do things. Like: "you can't install and use the Pimoroni HyperPixel 4.0 on Manjaro ARM Sway." Gate keepers, the lot of them.

Are you even fully aware of the extent of my madness?

the Swede cackles with mad glee, skipping, hopping, singing a tune only he knows the intricate rhythm to "hack the planet, hack-e-ti-hack, hack the planet, I'm gonna go slay a Gibson"

gonna need to change the styles a bit so things fit on the square screen

That's Manjaro ARM Sway

[real falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/hack-the-planet-gif-15624885

[wooden schooner]

you have 53% movie film but 16% movie film.

[harsh goblet]

I want endeavour arm

Pi too weak

Oh nevermind. 2gb of ram needed, that's doable actually

[silver shale]

When PET is thermally depolymerized, what molecules does it yield? Not sure if it gives off ethylene gas.

[silver shale]

I use it internally now, used to use LaTeX with the Gummi editor but switched because I wanted something that could be done in a browser. Knowledge of SQL and PHP is not really needed, just a moderate understanding of using the shell in Linux to set it up. The tutorial on MediaWIki covers almost all of the config.

[stoic mesa]

You can also use wiki built into github.
Or you can write your documentation using Restructured Text - very similar to markdown - in github and set up readthedocs to process and show it every time you update github. I do that for my projects, e.g https://yozh.rtfd.org
(which actually builds from https://github.com/shurik179/yozh/tree/main/docs)

I am very comfortable using LaTeX, but it is best as format for printed/PDF documentation, not for the web.

[hasty wedge]

Can I use PyLeap with other nrf products?

I only have a Sparkfun nrf52840 micromod

[lusty fossil]

Can you make readthedocs private? This is for work. I need to document code, electrical hardware, and mechanical hardware.

[sick adder]

Their website says you can https://readthedocs.com/pricing/

[lusty fossil]

Ah that might be more than we're willing to pay. Thanks though

I'll have to stick with doxygen I think

[fading hare]

If y'all use GitHub you could use the Wiki in a repo as well.

Could generate Wiki pages from the Doxygen.

[lusty fossil]

We do use github. I think for a first pass I'll use doxygen and LaTeX and then look into wiki stuff in 2023 when I'll have less going on.

[median viper]

<@&617066238840930324> do any of you guys understand Dask, and intel processors, I originally was crunching KNN (K-Nearest Neighbors), on a 36 column 1.5M row dataset and I am trying to use dask to parallelize and speed up the process, I got dask up an running but it's only 4 workers right now, does intel processors have 4 workers per cpu core or I only have a 4 core CPU I5 so that would give me a total of 12 workers plus a system core? I am just trying to crunch on my local machine and the time it takes to crunch the dataset is awful.

[fading hare]

Custom desk mat arrived from China!

It smells weird. I hope I don't get wrist cancer.

[honest jolt]

generating math equations are surprisingly difficult

[wooden schooner]

I bet you could easily roll your own simple version of this. Here's something I once did: on an already-running web server, add a cron job to pull the latest revision from a particular repo (private repo, and I generated a GH read-only deploy key) and run the command to generate the docs site (doxygen, sphinx, etc.), outputting to somewhere within web server's document tree.

Sounds like you don't specifically need this "build docs site on every push to the repo" setup, but in case you're interested.

[lusty fossil]

I don't have any web programming skills, unfortunately and I have to hit the ground running next year on a number of projects, so for now I'll have to stick with what's familiar.