sometimes they are reused, sometimes not
#general-chat
wanton shore
like with HTTP keep-alive
some of those things are a bit different these days to mitigate DoS and DDoS attacks.
but, I am no network engineer. I am just a lowly dev monkey with a few /|||| on my cell wall.
lusty fossil
Haha
I've literally touched network stuff once in my learning of coding. It's all been MATLAB, GAS, and uP/CP. I have done a smidgen with magtag
wanton shore
Like. TokenRing was the dumbest thing of all time.
Don't even search for it. You will cry.
lusty fossil
Haha ok
wanton shore
It's basically round-robin around and around and around all the connected devices, and maybe you get the packet you wanted, and maybe you don't...
fluid forum
token ring is old school
lusty fossil
Who thought it was a good idea?
fluid forum
you had to get all the pakets
wanton shore
hahaha, and pass them on
fluid forum
it was before DHCP
wanton shore
OR ELSE
wanton shore
I remember door-checking people coming to LAN parties to make sure they had a D-Link card, because everything else sucked.
We actually had a legit bowl full of D-Link cards to replace people's crap with, because otherwise they'd take down the entire LAN.
lusty fossil
What did Dlink do?
wanton shore
this was back in '96, Quake tournaments
D-Link made the best Ethernet NICs at the time.
wanton shore
yup
we had some money, though... through various means
played with some of the top 3 Quake championship players in the world back then... this was in a little rural town in Sweden... but our Internet was baller because there was a backbone a few miles away at the uni.
lusty fossil
Neat
fluid forum
Rit?
wanton shore
I remember getting 20 MB/sec down and 30 MB/sec up or some such, in '96 when connected to some of the more privileged machines. It was nuts. Didn't see speeds like that until 2002-2003. My broadband in Sweden was 12 down and 5 up I think.
lusty fossil
I was of gaming age in the LAN days but we all played split screen console.
fluid forum
Or u of r
wanton shore
funnily enough, Ljungbygymnasiet.
fluid forum
I feel like a prat, but how do I pronounce that?
wanton shore
one sec
snap, it was actually called Sunnerbogymnasiet. forgot... I never went to the U... there were no classes for emerging tech like html/cgi/web servers/whatever at the time.
I am going to record the pronunciation
fluid forum
I can almost work that out
fluid forum
Icelandic languages are not as rough as something like Urdu
wanton shore
Icelandic has remained mostly pure since 1000 AD, where as Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian have had influences mostly from German, English, and French.
that's basically where they split
and one of the main culprits were the monarchs, and law texts, that were written in this German mumbojumbo crap
tardy badger
English is the most influenced of all languages. A majority of it is other languages lol
fluid forum
Reminds me of this Netherlands video by cgp gray
fluid forum
English is also lacking at times
tardy badger
One day I plan to learn the language of the Sámi
wanton shore
my first major crush was on a stunning Dutch girl.... I was like 14, she was 18. She taught me to count to like 30 in Dutch.
Sami isn't hard compared to Finnish.
wanton shore
English is dumb.
fluid forum
At times
wanton shore
I'll think of a word for a specific thing, and there's just no word for it in English and people look at me like I'm insane. I don't have much of an accent, see.
tardy badger
Sámi is just nice to learn because it was squashed for so long by Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Russia
fluid forum
Tom Scott did a thing on that
lusty fossil
English is dumb.
Heartily agree
wanton shore
Sweden actually worked with Finland to maintain and encourage use of Sami
too late for some, sure
tardy badger
My mothers Finnish family came from Sámi
fluid forum
English is missing so many dicriptors
wanton shore
but, it's like Cymru.
tardy badger
The fact that their language was illegal to teach in schools up until 10 years ago was shocking
wanton shore
people that have balls enough to build freakin' teepees above the polar circles have mad respect from me
tardy badger
Agreed
wanton shore
wait, ten years ago since when?
wanton shore
so, I am Swedish, born and raised, moved to the states in the mid 2000s.
fluid forum
Sorry
wanton shore
I never heard anything about Saami language being banned.
You could learn it in school as extra curriculum, just like French, Latin, Italian, Russian, or German.
As well as Finnish.
Sweden has broadcast Finnish speaking TV shows for as long as I ever saw a TV... so.... since the 80s.
Mumin all day, brah.
tardy badger
Some reading I was doing while learning about Sámi was that there was a time up until recently that their language couldn’t be taught it public school. It could have been wrong or misleading g
wanton shore
oh, that was probably... like the 60s?
Sweden was in some ways worse than the Bible Belt in the US. They forced children to write cursive with their right hand, up until the mid-60s. Because... You know. The Left Hand is the Hand of the Devil.
fluid forum
Probably changed in the 80's or 90's
tardy badger
Even still, Sámi still face a lot hatred and racism. As recently as 2018 the UN condemned Sweden for not doing more to curb anti Sámi sentiment and crimes
wanton shore
oh yes
tardy badger
My parents are both lefties
wanton shore
Sami face a lot of discrimination, still, to this day
tardy badger
I’m glad they have received some good representation is popular movies like Frozen and Klaus
wanton shore
Some Scandinavians treat them like Romani. But, I've never seen a Sami selling brand new Levi's out of the trunk of his next year model Benz.
(I grew up with Romanians and others that were all Romani, and they were some cool peeps)
but yeah, the Sami are nothing like that.
tardy badger
It’s also interesting to me that growing up knowing I had Finnish blood/ancestry (my mother is second generation Finnish American) that we called them Laplanders but Sámi detest the term
tardy badger
I wasn’t aware of Sámi until like 2 years ago
We did a bunch of digging into where my mothers paternal family came from
wanton shore
Swedish people are weirdly unaware of things. Like, we called chocolate balls (with pearl sugar) "negerbolle" until like the 90s. That's super offensive.
tardy badger
As you know, Finnish records keeping was not great
wanton shore
The Finns did resist the Church better than most in Scandinavia.
wanton shore
Or, like we called Inuits EskimXXs for as long as I was growing up. Nobody even knew that was an extremely racist term.
wanton shore
Mikkola is a good Finnish name.
fluid forum
That candy name is messed up
tardy badger
My wife and I wanted to honor my mothers finish heritage with our third child. He will get the name Finnick which is a more “American” spelling of Finnik
wanton shore
I remember how most of the world didn't GAF about Chernobyl and the Russians.... meanwhile we couldn't eat fish out of the North Sea for about 30+ years because they store radioactive particles in their liver forever.
Finnick sounds very Gaelic to me
tardy badger
It has both Irish and Finnish origins
wanton shore
yeah, because Scandinavians are the reason there's redheads on the British Isles... 😉
they didn't raid as much as they were just looking for arable land
tardy badger
But somehow the Finn’s detested redheads as devils for the longest time
wanton shore
I thought that was mostly a Christian myth?
tardy badger
One of my long dead great grandmothers had to wear a head covering because she had red hair
wanton shore
they might have been bad omens? Maybe they would bring portents?
tardy badger
They lived in a heavily Finnish community in the upper peninsula of Michigan
It was seen as bad is all I know, she had to hide her hair
wanton shore
yeah, that's not a Norse thing, for sure.
tardy badger
No, Norse had much red hair
They were the great “snake” defeated by ye ole st Patrick
Or so the story goes
wanton shore
but they still gave St Patrick some gorgeous daughters and nephews! 😉
wanton shore
sweet
lusty fossil
They were the great “snake” defeated by ye ole st Patrick
I thought that was the druids? Like a metaphor for their suppression by the church?
wanton shore
well... the druids dated back before the church, they were more culled by the Romans than anything I think
lusty fossil
But still around, the Romans became the church after all
wanton shore
I think some of them actually went on to be monks, trying to preserve the history of their people so as it wouldn't be entirely forgotten
tardy badger
One other family name was sarela (sarala) an Parala
wanton shore
OK. Wanna hear something funny?
tardy badger
The Sámi in history were likely the “barbarians” that the Roman’s fought
Which is an interesting historical cliff note
wanton shore
The Romans were just another flavor of fascism.
tardy badger
Sure, that’s valid
wanton shore
Like the borg. Assimilate.
tardy badger
Genghis Khan was very democratic despite a lot of what was written about him
wanton shore
The Church definitely embraced that same concept. Softly erasing history, cultural traditions, religious observances, and sometimes replacing them with similar holidays to keep the peace.
tardy badger
Another interesting historical cliff note
wanton shore
Like, Beltaine.
tardy badger
The church preferred to change the narrative in these Situations
wanton shore
It was a powerful solar observance, dedicated to fertility and hope
tardy badger
Easter bunny it is
lusty fossil
My friend who is a witch was mildly annoyed to find out that in the nerdy fantasy series I am obsessed with they celebrate "Bel Tine"
wanton shore
it was common in Sweden, Ireland, and other places
nah, brah, the easter bunny isn't even the actual crime
tardy badger
I was oversimplifying with no regard for nuance
wanton shore
lol
lusty fossil
Just had a thought, is this OK for this discord?
wanton shore
the Church took that holiday, May 1, which was a fire festival dedicated to fertility, new life, and the hope for good harvests and bountiful summers, and they turned it into a spectacle. They moved it to April 30, and declared it Valborg's Mass Eve. It was the night when the "witches" traveled" to Blåkulla to commune with the devil.
tardy badger
I think historical discussions are okay
wanton shore
Well. It's off topic. It's recorded history.
lusty fossil
Yeah
wanton shore
No offense to anybody who is a modern-day Christian.
tardy badger
So long as it doesn’t become unfocused from the history of it and not being turned into a religious debate or similar
wanton shore
No religious debate here, just more of a factual depiction of what the institutional clergy did to suppress and distort existing religious practices... basically their only first contact rule was: Convert or die/starve/whatever.
So, anyway, the bonfires that the young would jump over to signify their strong lifeblood and youthful power, the same bonfires that old people and cattle were led through to bless them for another fruitful year... they were turned into the fires that the witches were burned in.
This is all straight up Swedish history.
tardy badger
You know, speaking of witches, Halloween (all hallowed eve) was an religious holiday to drive away devils. Amazing what the pope can do
wanton shore
Samhain.
It's like the Satanic panic.
They hated on D&D because they thought it was about the devil. Nah, brah, we're not chummy with the red dude, we're killing all his minions and looting their corpses.
Anyway. My favorite observance in the eight-fold year is Imbolc. It's Feb 2 (I tihnk) when traditionally, the lambs were born.
tardy badger
I’m not familiar
wanton shore
It's eightfold because there are both solar, and lunar, observances. You have the polar opposites. North being the Winter Solstice, where everything is dark as can be for as long as possible. South being the Summer Solstice, where everything was as bright as possible for as long as possible. These were strong astronomical and cultural observances in most of Scandinavia. Then you have the two equinoxes, spring and autumnal, where the sun is half-way between solstices. Those are the cardinal directions. The ordinal directions were lunar observances. And Samhain and Beltaine were both examples of that. I am sorry, I actually said that Beltaine was a solar observance earlier, which is not true, it is a lunar observance.
This has permeated culture in Northern Europe for ages.
You wonder why Jesus was born right around Dec 21? Well, to replace the Winter Solstice.
When, in fact his actual birth date was closer to Feb or Mar or something.
tardy badger
Sure, I don’t personally think Jesus could have been born in December
wanton shore
Well, there's plenty of evidence in the bible that he WASN'T.
tardy badger
For it to make sense that he was the “sacrificial lamb” he had to have been born in February or so
wanton shore
I mean, we can trace star charts back that far these days, and it's been proven time and time again that it was not in December.
tardy badger
And given that Sheppard’s were tending their flocks, it’s unlikely they would have been in the fields in the winter
wanton shore
Yup.
There are other holidays in Sweden that replace the old observances, like "midsommarafton" which is basically Cinco de Mayo of Sweden.
tardy badger
I don’t personally think Christmas is a Christian holiday. It’s a great time and it does a lot to make people feel happy for at least a short time. But certainly not more than a Norse solstice celebration 🙂
wanton shore
Have you ever seen the sun rise in Newgrange on Dec 21?
tardy badger
I have not
wanton shore
They used to have a webcam on it, but I am not sure if they do still.
tardy badger
My poor soul has never left the US
I do dream of being able to travel one of these days
wanton shore
So. There's the inner grave chamber of the king that was buried there. The sun never reaches that chamber, until Dec 21. When it creates a sunlight portal on the wall.
wanton shore
China is a bit low on my list of destinations right now.
lusty fossil
I'm gonna get a burner phone and a chrome book that are never connected to my network here and bring those.
wanton shore
Besides, you can get all those cool gadgets off of AliExpress.
lusty fossil
Yeah but I love markets and Chinese food
wanton shore
true dat
but, take it from a world traveler
don't even bring a phone from whatever country you came from
just buy one when you get there, get a SIM card
buy a cheap-as-dirt Chromebook or tablet, and use that
lusty fossil
Interesting. I would assume in China there would be a lot more Spyware
wanton shore
yes, there definitely is, but if you bring a phone from outside of China into China you're going to stick out like a sore thumb
lusty fossil
I assume I'll be surveiled no matter what
wanton shore
safest route would be to use an offline version of Google Translate and just translate to Cantonese and send messages that way
lusty fossil
I'm a tallish white American, I couldn't stick out more if I tried
tardy badger
Make sure to buy an iPhone that’s runs iOS as an app on android
wanton shore
haahaha
lusty fossil
Lol
tardy badger
It’s funny but you could buy those for a time in China, not sure if you can anymore
tardy badger
It’s the most hilarious thing I had seen in terms of knock offs
wanton shore
along with the spectacularly dismal watches
tardy badger
Very clever
lusty fossil
I want one of those robots that folds all the way down into another object
wanton shore
Not sure if this is racist, but we call those products "Chinesium"
lusty fossil
...transformers is the word I was looking for.
tardy badger
Like an element?
lusty fossil
Not sure if this is racist, but we call those products "Chinesium"
It is a bit and some people really don't like it
I avoid saying it
tardy badger
I’ve not heard the term before
wanton shore
Yeah, like the thing you buy from Amazon that nobody ever bothered to QC because money is more important to them than quality
lusty fossil
I've heard it a lot, it's one of those situations to err on the side of caution to avoid hurting any feelings
wanton shore
Remember Thomas The Train?
tardy badger
Ah yes
wanton shore
For like decades they were delivering toys that were painted with lead paint. You know, for kids, who are still in their oral phase.
The CEO committed suicide. Not sure if state sanctioned or if he was really ashamed.
tardy badger
Maybe both
wanton shore
So, anyway, my point is... that's where Amazon is now. They do not have time to QC these products. Vendors will sell their thing for a few weeks/months, then disappear only to surface as a company selling the exact same thing, with some minor difference. I mean, I don't mind, I buy electronic products off of Amazon all the time, and it's way cheaper than paying some greedy Western company royalty.
lusty fossil
Supposedly if you look at crime rates, they are lagged by lead ppm in the atmosphere by about 25 years
wanton shore
I am only a communist sympathizer when it comes to subverting capitalist regulations.
Wait, crime rates where, and lead ppm where?
lusty fossil
US
wanton shore
Oh. I bet.
Anybody remember Flint, MI?
That's what happens when you let corporations pay the "salaries" of "elected" officials.
tardy badger
Utah is what happens when you let a religious organization run the state for at least 100 years
wanton shore
First things I would fix in this country:
- lobbying is illegal, anybody caught doing it on either side goes to prison
- decisions made during your term of office can be held against you later
- prisons are for reform, not profit
@stoic mesa YOU CAN PROVE ANYTHING WITH STATISTICS, 14% OF ALL PEOPLE KNOW THAT
stoic mesa
yep
14.32% by latest data
wanton shore
You know... My first time in UT I was like... this is some bad stuff, brah. Then I drove down a street not far from Temple Square and were greeted by the signs of my people: tattoo parlors and biker clubs. I immediately stopped to give them all my money.
tardy badger
My favorite quote from my Economics, Law, and Government class was “correlation does not equal causation” and it’s stuck with me since
wanton shore
yep
14.32% by latest data
Homer was the best statistician. Prove me wrong.
... Home Simpson. If you wondered...
stoic mesa
yep. So while there is little doubt that lead paint is dangerous, I'd be very wary of linking it to murder rate without some serious study
lusty fossil
I could swear there more to it than my word but I haven't done much digging
wanton shore
I mean, the communist regime used to have public executions (do they still?) where they would send a bill to the family of the "traitor" to ensure they were loyal to the party. Not sure how much one round of 7.62x39 is worth to them, but I am assuming it was probably more than that family could afford to produce in a year.
wanton shore
yep. So while there is little doubt that lead paint is dangerous, I'd be very wa...
Wait, who claimed it was linked to murder rates?
wanton shore
I mean, the communist regime used to have public executions (do they still?) whe...
either way, that's how you keep the serfs of your feudal society in check...
lusty fossil
I did
Lead is bad for your brain, makes you more likely to make impulsive decisions out of anger
wanton shore
I wish they would make that connection to echo chambers on Facebook and Parler.
It's funny how Facebook went from "we're going to sell great ads to all these sheeple, just pay us and we'll make you rich, no matter your messed up views and underlying motives" to something along the lines of "everything we ever did was just to pretend there's another world. The meta world."
I'd like to see some figures on how much money Cambridge Analytica actually generated for its investors, and Facebook.
Anyway. I digress. The world is amazing. Humans are shortsighted and greedy. Hope is not a good plan. I'll see you on the front lines. 
(I remember building amazing 4-mode 🍆 accessories in Second Life. They would go from trying to hide underneath your FUPA to OK, this is better, to I've got a solar compass needle pointing straight at true north)
hasty quarry
tardy badger
Nicely done, final velocity equation
blissful roost
Anyone else got tickets to see Ghostbusters yet? 😄
late fulcrum
Yup!
dusty citrus
vagrant sonnet
Thanks to home automation, at night, when I leave, my cat is left in darkness, and a light turning back on anticipates my return. I hope that’s not doing anything weird to him psychologically.
idle iron
my brother in law wants me to get certified through codecamp for python stuff.... trying "scientific computing with python" right now
blissful roost
Python is useful.. I need to work with it myself.
lusty fossil
Upside to leaving your lunch burrito half eaten in your car: your car then smells like Mexican food when you get in at the end of the day
quartz wren
Yoooo... I just realized I'm the closest I've ever been to Adafruit hq
I'm in New Jersey for a wedding
blissful roost
I was in NJ for a wedding once..
lusty fossil
I was in NJ for reasons I can't remember
lusty fossil
My friends finally caught the mouse living in their house. We're having a spirited discussion regarding what the next step is. Apparently my friends are more faint of heart than I thought
late fulcrum
Mice, I gently and permanently evict. Moths, kaboom. Spiders get to stay.
lusty fossil
How do you permantly evict a mouse?
lusty fossil
Mice, I gently and permanently evict. Moths, kaboom. Spiders get to stay.
A while ago we had a brief discussion in which you said you thought the use of 80/20 was "a little twee" and you said you'd use a different product. I can't recall what that was. Do you remember?
A little twee for my purposes
late fulcrum
Gobilda?
lusty fossil
maybe? They seemed a little more industrial. The application was a rotating stage
lusty fossil
I'm having an annoying issue where this website's page doesn't fully load/loads incorrectly. Is there any way to view that text that is cut off?
crystal ore
Possibly print to PDF?
late fulcrum
maybe? They seemed a little more industrial. The application was a rotating stag...
Other possibilities include Unistrut or one of the variety of slotted angle that are commonly used to build stuff. Like a giant Erector set capable of heavy loads. We used that stuff all the time in the physics lab to build apparatus.
late fulcrum
I'm having an annoying issue where this website's page doesn't fully load/loads ...
View as source
blissful roost
Indeed
lusty fossil
Other possibilities include Unistrut or one of the variety of slotted angle that...
I think uni strut was it, thanks. Any idea if it's feasible to make a hexagon out of that stuff?
late fulcrum
I think uni strut was it, thanks. Any idea if it's feasible to make a hexagon ou...
There are a few approaches, but the easiest is to look for ready-made angle plates that match whatever system you're using. Note that 45/135° brackets are more common, so octagons are generally easier.
lusty fossil
octagon works fine. Thanks very much
wary herald
@tardy badger How do you select multiple regions to send to on Tindie?
I know you've got Tindie experience
tardy badger
Usually under shipping tab
tardy badger
Lol
blissful roost
wary herald
Nice
tardy badger
Printed them myself
wary herald
Very cool
stoic mesa
didn't you want to order them from some company?
tardy badger
I was going to order from sticker ninja
But this option was cheaper
at least for trying out new designs quickly
i do want a 2.5" circuit punch for making the edges smoother
wary herald
@tardy badger What shipping service do you use? and do you ship internationally? International shipping's like a hundred bucks for 2 pounds
on DHL
and 200 on UPS
tardy badger
I use Shippo
wary herald
Cool
tardy badger
I’ve used Pirate Ship for Australian shipping
stoic mesa
@wary heralddo you need to ship to Australia or from Australia?
I also used pirateship's "Simple export rate" to ship a package from US to AU recently.
It worked, and was inexpensive, but it took the package more than 6 weeks to get to the buyer.
Same shipping from US to Switzerland was about 2.5 weeks
tardy badger
Sometimes you just wok into the kitchen and starting woking
And ya just keep woking until you have a meal
lusty fossil
Neat!
blissful roost
I might cook a curry next week..
tardy badger
I wish I could do curry
My wife doesn’t like most curry
I’m just making a chicken teriyaki stir fry of sorts
blissful roost
I make a really good chicken tikka masala. 🙂
It's quite mild, to pass wife approval. 😂
tardy badger
Nice! I made a simple tomato chicken curry (similar to tikka masala) but my wife didn’t like it
I thought it was delicious
thick wind
Nobody can hate butter chicken....?
tardy badger
My wife doesn’t like the combination of spices
Though funny enough plenty of them are used in Mexican food
wooden schooner
Nobody can hate butter chicken....?
Used to often saute cauliflower and simmer it in this for breakfast https://www.target.com/p/butter-chicken-sauce-12oz-good-38-gather-8482/-/A-77393358
lusty fossil
A TV show I've been waiting years and years for premiered today. The Wheel of Time is finally live!
tardy badger
So I decided to hold off on graduate school for the time being
Today was the deadline to sign an HR paper for the company I work for to pay for most of the expenses. I just struggled with not having the flexibility to change jobs for 2-5 years if I let them pay
narrow finch
I made work pay for graduate school, but I didn't have to sign a contract, professional development shouldn't come with strings
imho btw
tardy badger
The company I work for requires you to stay 2 years for every semester of classes they pay for
Otherwise you have to pay it back
dusty citrus
my company did something similar, where i had to stay for 1 year after the most recent class i took.
golden handcuffs.
wooden schooner
Do they send you a bill?
stoic mesa
So I decided to hold off on graduate school for the time being
Difficult decision.
Will it hurt your prospects inside your company? they can take this as indication that you are looking to change jobs, and not everyone takes this gracefully
wooden schooner
Oh wow yeah sorry 😦
tardy badger
No, I don’t think it will reflect poorly. There’s not an expectation to go to grad school
stoic mesa
good
tardy badger
I’d really love to go but I just can’t afford it otherwise and in already have a lot of student debt
It’s just the debt you choose to take on and at this moment, the flexibility and mobility is more important
dusty citrus
i had to go grad school, because even though i've been software developer for 11 years i didn't have a "computer related" degree under my belt. so HR drones would disregard my resume
stoic mesa
at some moment when former Soviet Union was opening up and a lot of educated people left for the West, there was a talk of making those who emigrate to pay back the cost of their university education - which was free in USSR
they never really did it, though
tardy badger
My wife also recently accepted a job so it will be hard to balance two working full time with the baby on the way
stoic mesa
that's certain
dusty citrus
My wife also recently accepted a job so it will be hard to balance two working f...
automate the baby with circuit python
tardy badger
Haha, I wish
wooden schooner
at some moment when former Soviet Union was opening up and a lot of educated peo...
wowee... How did they appraise that
stoic mesa
this was talk, by some crazy politicians
tardy badger
Free education would be a dream but it’s not conceivable in the US with the current high education system
crystal ore
Does that mean you're not going to put Oak Dev on hiatus after all? 🤔
tardy badger
Well, I decided to run it part time rather than trying to do it full time
That way there’s less pressure
But the part shortage will probably put me out sooner than later
stoic mesa
great; I am still very excited about those castaway boards you are designing
tardy badger
I am too. I’m hoping them make it in tomorrow to test them so I can get panels and stencils ordered
stoic mesa
have you seen this:
https://twitter.com/witnessmenow/status/1461838497082490890?s=20
Twitter
stoic mesa
it is
tardy badger
Lots of makers have been closing their stores lately
tardy badger
Lots of semi companies are expecting it to not level off until 2023
So I expect at least another year of hardship
stoic mesa
well, time to build our own foundries
tardy badger
Just need a few billion to buy the fab that TI just bought from Micron down the road from me and we will be set
stoic mesa
we can steal it
in the dark of the night
and move to an undisclosed location
lusty fossil
Just hack the government and give yourself more money. Easy peasy
stoic mesa
I don't need money, I need MOSFETs!
lusty fossil
Yeah I'm real worried about the chip shortage
tardy badger
I have been sourcing obscure Chinese mosfets
I feel like I’m really pushing my luck
stoic mesa
I almost ordered some TI chips from AliBaba - even got a quote.
Then thought better of it
tardy badger
The brand I ordered makes reputable parts, I’ve just never head of them lol
lusty fossil
real falcon
lusty fossil
Lololol
tardy badger
umbral phoenix
I was supposed to sign a 2-year thing for a degree program, but no one ever gave me the paperwork, and I just never brought it up.
lusty fossil
Lol
umbral phoenix
not that it mattered, I stuck around for a couple years more, took a couple of positions I enjoyed so much that when that part of the org contracted later, I couldn't fathom going back to the less-interesting part of the company, so I negotiated an exit
umbral phoenix
yeah, and saved someone else's job in the process
I was just ready to be done with that phase
lusty fossil
That's great!
I think I could see myself at my current place for a while. I might eventually move closer but who knows.
I like where I live a lot but it's 40 miles away and gas is an issue
No reliable public transit
umbral phoenix
I hear ya, that's a challenge. In theory, there's transit (near) here, but by the time you get there and make the connections and everything, it only paid off on the worst weather days when it might take up to two hours or so to drive
lusty fossil
Yeah here we have a regional transit thing but it's just not practical for me.
The nevergonna happen, but needed project in CA is regional high speed rail.
lusty fossil
I might have a McRib problem. I told myself never again but here I am again.
dusty citrus
are they even good?
lusty fossil
wary herald
<@!746175873203437652>do you need to ship to Australia or from Australia?
Neither
I was just trying to find an affordable shipper, rather than a 150 buck shipper
wary herald
lusty fossil
Lol
lusty fossil
I may have unleashed something I shouldn't have
lusty fossil
I was trying to come up with a quip about Pandora's Box
wary herald
https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-stick-bug-stick-bugged-gif-18088057
hehe
brazen mirage
Taking a poll: Are you an active Git user (GitHub, BitBucket, GitLab, etc.) for your hardware projects? (yes: 👍 , no: 👎 )
Building something for y'all in the coming months, but need a bit of help here 🔧
lusty fossil
Did a spammer attack occur?
umbral phoenix
Math question: I have a histogram like this (shown as x=y): 1=4679 2=1863 3=853 4=1539 5=202 6=4844 7=4622 8=583 9=4617 10=1907 11=4339 12=1734 13=275. I can intuitively tell which ones dominate ("these are way more than the rest"), but I'm not sure what calculation to perform to focus on just the dominant ones. Standard deviation, maybe? Needs to be a very-low-compute-effort calculation.
The numbers are constantly increasing, rapidly.
(I actually need to do this on a running-average sample, but that's outside this question, I can do that)
I'll try simple percentile to start. There's no reason to expect this data will follow any typical distribution.
wary herald
Did a spammer attack occur?
lusty fossil
I'll try simple percentile to start. There's no reason to expect this data will ...
Curious what people suggest. Is this on an MCU?
umbral phoenix
yes, and lots of data coming in, so it needs to be fast
lusty fossil
No import pandas then
wary herald
I love pandas
umbral phoenix
no, just keeping a dynamic snapshot of which "x"s are dominating at the moment in the incoming data
wary herald
I see
crystal ore
The most efficient algorithm I could think of, if you want to keep track of the top N bins on a running basis, would be to store the value that divides the "top N" from the "bottom" values. Then when you update the values at a new timestep, you can see if any new bins crossed over the boundary and update the top-N list.
crystal ore
Oh, so you want more like "however many values contribute more than 50% of the total" or something like that?
lusty fossil
anecdata, what media does your pfp refer to?
umbral phoenix
"pfp"?
lusty fossil
Profile picture
blissful roost
You know when there's a question you shouldn't ask.....
umbral phoenix
oh, lol, it's from a pre-2049 Blade Runner anime
blissful roost
Hehe
umbral phoenix
it's a little gruesome, I know
crystal ore
an 80th percentile may do it
I'd be thinking in terms of something like a binary heap. You should be able to efficiently update values and resort almost in place, and pull off the top N until you accumulate enough to get to 80%.
umbral phoenix
hopefully without the Replicant ID#
umbral phoenix
I'd be thinking in terms of something like a binary heap. You should be able to ...
that looks promising, thanks
waxen wasp
ah the fun feeling of getting an adafruit package, and realizing you forgot to buy stemma qt qwiic connectors.
lusty fossil
Oh dear
waxen wasp
No project can survive without issues appearing--if this is the issue I have for this project (patio weather node) I'll take it 😄
lusty fossil
Patio weather node?
waxen wasp
but man, those connectors are super nice. I have a bunch of larger, bulkier cables I'm use to turning into connectors, but the convenience of the qwiic ones is hard to beat
Just a little temp and pm2.5 sensor for the patio
lusty fossil
I'm trying to think of a fun project to do at work with the incoming stemma qt neopixeled slide pots
My boss is more of a creative than me.
Maybe she can think of something I can do
waxen wasp
I need a value for outside, so I can make a measure of if the air filter for the hvac needs to be replaces, or if it's just dusty/smokey outside.
lusty fossil
ahhh
waxen wasp
oh that sounds fun! I need to play with neopixels and displays more
lusty fossil
Displays are fun
waxen wasp
they're great projects that easily show folks how much fun electronics can be
waxen wasp
the slide pots should be fun--make any user interface feel 'futuristic'
lusty fossil
With open source games if I can find them
lusty fossil
the slide pots should be fun--make any user interface feel 'futuristic'
Totally
waxen wasp
My dream is to build a raspi 4 powered arcade machine
what kind of arcade machine are you thinking of? It sounds fun!
lusty fossil
Well my work has lots of customers with kids, so maybe fun platformer games? Simple stuff.
I'd love to write some myself but I'm not there yet.
I'd need a way to change the game you're playing as well
lusty fossil
Like swap from Platformer 1 to Platformer 2
I recall arcade games as a kid that had multiple games in one. So I'd need to sort out the physical hardware setup too
I'd also need to get good at woodworking to build the thing
waxen wasp
oh neat! I bet that'd be amazing fun, especially in conjunction with a bunch of leds, buzzers, a other things as well. That sounds like a really cool project to work toward
lusty fossil
I'm thinking if I can sell work on it I can start in 2023
Gives me time to do learning and product research.
I also would like to create a VR "room" for kids to explore and interact with characters/complete quests, but I'd need to go back to school for that.
Or maybe learn about science or art or humanities or something
waxen wasp
That's a pretty great goal to have! VR is one of those areas that is super cool but just is outside of my realm of experience. I'm looking forward to packages in the future that make it easier. Unreal Engine and Unity have both made it was easier to start working in than it use to be, I'm excited to see where it leads and how folks integrate it into projects like with the sensors and other things adafruit offers
lusty fossil
Yeah I think it would go over gangbusters if I can learn to do it. I could also demand a higher wage
silver shale
looking at old HDDs that I had laying around, going to put this here without any more context
lusty fossil
I love the feeling of relief I get when I think someone broke a tool of mine, but then it turns out it's ok.
I don't know how to chase that feeling though
dusty citrus
be richer 😄
lusty fossil
Or loan my tools out more often, but only to qualified people
Being richer would be counter productive because I would value my tools less, since they would be easier to replace
dusty citrus
and charge for loaning a price that's above price to replace*odds to break so you have pot odds to make that bet
lusty fossil
Lol
dusty citrus
If you were richer you'd just have more tools to loan out
personally since I don't use tools that often I'd gladly pay the price of an amazonbasics to loan a wera or knipex tool for a while
slim shard
loan out small furry creatures? being richer shouldn't matter too much unless you're evil in that case.
dusty citrus
strongly considering investing in a good german wire stripper for instance
lusty fossil
Met my first work-raccoon. I'm working outside tonight and it came creeping in looking for our trash
very sheepishly slunk away when I shouted "Hey get outta here!" in my best new jersey accent
lusty fossil
Anyone know any discords for audio engineers? I'm failing to find a "good" way to pass a 3.5mm audio jack through an enclosure wall
dusty citrus
can't you just drill a hole?
slim shard
for a good hole, drill using a severed unicorn horn
dusty citrus
maybe i'm not understanding the question properly.
lusty fossil
I needs it to be water resistant.
The max diameter of an aux cable is greater than the diameter of the cabling, so water would get thru
real falcon
got a 3d printer?
with rbber rings, you could print a double sided holder to gold cable, then have bolts on both sides to tighten it into enclosure
rubber rings being under cap to stop water from getting though
lusty fossil
Hmmm I don't think 3d printing can be reliably IP rated. It's a good idea though
I'd rather find an off the shelf solution so it's easy to replace.
dusty citrus
omg
bot plz
what about drilling a hole
and sealing it up with sillicone compound
lusty fossil
The cable needs to be unpluggable
I found a female to female panel mount connector but it's not IP rated
lusty fossil
Having a hard time parsing that image
What are the rings?
lusty fossil
Thx
wary herald
very sheepishly slunk away when I shouted "Hey get outta here!" in my best new j...
Lol
dusty citrus
lusty fossil
Ahhh I was looking at it wrong.
I'm really in need of something that can be unplugged on both sides
My female to female is great, maybe I can find a gasket for it
dusty citrus
i would still recommend just shoving a bunch of silicon in it
lusty fossil
A male to male connector could also be useful
quartz wren
GUYS! I'm going to make a portable battery powered guitar amp for Kenny G's son
quartz wren
Haha so does Max
They look so similar lol
Apparently I'm invited for a yet-to-be-scheduled jam session in Kenny's Malibu mansion
lusty fossil
Nice
lusty fossil
Neat
quartz wren
So Max is going to visit my lab and my dad's recording studio when he comes up to visit his dad, dude really likes me and we became friends very quickly
He was the best man at the wedding I just got back from (and I was invited by the groom, who talked me up beforehand I'm pretty sure because Max's girlfriend already knew me as "Taco" when I introduced myself by my actual name)
lusty fossil
Thats nice!
quartz wren
Anyway now I'm just uh... Hanging out at SeaTac until my bus comes tomorrow morning
quartz wren
Yeah especially since I had to check a bag so I can't stay in the secure area
lusty fossil
Yeah stay safe
quartz wren
Probably not sleeping tonight
quartz wren
Yeah this is going to be a long night...
fluid forum
no way to get a train into town? or is that not a thing out there?
quartz wren
I'm not spending any more money than I have to. A train would be some $50-60 and I've already spent that much to get a bus as early as possible tomorrow
Plus I doubt the passenger trains are running at this time
Well there might be one running but it would probably just get me into Seattle proper and then I'm just stuck.
And I'm definitely not paying for a hotel... Mainly because I can't afford it.
quartz wren
Yeah, we have one rail line between here and my home town and there are passenger trains but I think they start running to home about the same time as the shuttle bus arrives
mighty laurel
Meet my assistant. His name is Gerald.
wooden schooner
Anyone have experience sandboxing the Zoom client for Linux?
Background: About 2 years ago I tried installing Zoom on my work laptop (Ubuntu 18.04), and soon after the laptop slowed to a crawl even while Zoom wasn't running. Suspicious timing, and suspiciously similar to the Windows "load me on startup, regardless of what the user wants" ethos (I have a whole rant about that). Wiped and reinstalled OS and the speed went back to normal. From then on, I have been running Zoom only in a Windows VM. There is a lot of overhead, but it works.
I'm now looking back into whether there might be a reasonable way to run Zoom natively. I see there is an unofficial Flatpak of Zoom:
https://flathub.org/apps/details/us.zoom.Zoom
I haven't used Flatpak before, but it looks like there is good, whitelist-based isolation. Hopefully all I need to do is write a config that enables X11 (and maybe also the graphics hardware), PulseAudio, and access to my camera device. Definitely no access to the host filesystem outside ~/.zoom or whatever.
fluid forum
Yeah, we have one rail line between here and my home town and there are passenge...
did you make it out of the airport, i hope?
silver shale
Anyone have experience sandboxing the Zoom client for Linux?
Background: About ...
Have done Flatpak for all webapps now
wooden schooner
Have done Flatpak for all webapps now
What do you mean by webapp?
fluid forum
cute
silver shale
What do you mean by webapp?
anything that relies on browsers
Slack, Discord, Ungoogled Chromium, Rocket.Chat, Skype
wooden schooner
Slack, Discord, Ungoogled Chromium, Rocket.Chat, Skype
Cool. Any reason you've chosen those in particular to flatpak versus other applications?
(also, did not realize Skype is now an electron app)
wooden schooner
lusty fossil
neat!
lusty fossil
Bonus to working sundays: bringing my dog in. non-bonus: someone else did the same so my dog is just locked in a room all day anyways
she's not always good with others and outweighs the other dog 3-4x
tardy badger
Would happen with my dog too
lusty fossil
you've got a big 'un too, correct?
lusty fossil
aww sweet bean
tardy badger
Funny enough, we call him bean boy
To highlight my dogs level of not so smart, my wife didn’t think he’d eat a salad she left on the counter when we went to the store
He ate it
Gotta watch his BMs over the next 48ish hours to make sure he’s okay and everything passes fine. Mostly worried about the dressing and whatnot
lusty fossil
yeah I would think the dressing would be the only issue. Too much oil for their system possibly
tardy badger
Yeah
lusty fossil
Mine won't steal food if you're in the room, but if you leave, it's fair game. She stole a steak at a BBQ when we put them inside and went out to keep cooking. she was in trouuuuuble
there's still an umami stain on my friends rug
tardy badger
He’s eaten like 1/3 of a triple layer chocolate cake before
lusty fossil
wowza
Mine is a covid acquisition and I can't over emphasize how great she's been
She hates all the other dogs in my complex but she's great with me lol
tardy badger
My dog is the same
real falcon
yeah. thats why i hope everyone leases dogs. not all dogs is friendly towards other dogs 😦
lusty fossil
lease dogs?
or leash?
I strongly disagree with the first one, strongly agree with the second lol
lusty fossil
oh yeah I hate when someone is like "He's/She's friendly!" My dog's jaws are bigger than your dog's head!
I bought a work light since I'm working 2-12 today. 5000 lumens is kind of a lot.
real falcon
i read about that one where guy with large dog let go lease and said "shes friendly!"
she bit other guy small dog and shake dog 😦
lusty fossil
oof
tardy badger
My dog ended up nipping another dog that got to close
The owner didn’t realize til a week or so later and the nip area got infected
lusty fossil
ouch
tardy badger
We made sure to avoid crossing paths after that
lusty fossil
I was told mine "bit somebody next to the car when getting out of a car" so I am very careful with her. I suspect it was a nip rather than a true bite, since she was serious jaws and would have been put down if it was a mauling level bite. But that's no reason not to be careful
tardy badger
Yeah
lusty fossil
lots of people have (relatively founded) concerns about pit bulls, so I don't take any chances
tardy badger
When my dog is in control of the environment he’s okay with other dogs
But that’s never the case outside
lusty fossil
mine does good at the dog park funnily enough
tardy badger
I don’t have a dog park nearby
He ends up barking at other dogs when we’re outside even if he’s in the dog park
quartz wren
I just got back from a crazy wedding
I mean to be fair I brought the crazy
But only at the reception
And everyone loved it from both sides of the family
Lets see if I can get the video one of the other people there got of me dancing and bringing the energy
Um
Wa
No
Lemme do it differently
That looks sketch and even though I know it isn't that's not a cool precedent to set
https://youtu.be/b6GZzmDwtyM low quality but there were also professional photographers doing video too so I'm just waiting for that haha
tardy badger
Same energy: https://youtu.be/eJc6-DgaQa0
wooden schooner
I bought a hardwire light. In the demo photos and video, they show someone handling the wires with their bare hands. Why? In the case of an accident where the power somehow didn't get shut off, wouldn't insulating gloves increase the safety dramatically?
wooden schooner
meaning wire directly to the house's electricity supply, rather than plugging into an outlet
lusty fossil
ahh
yeah I don't know, maybe they assume anyone doing that kind of work knows to turn off the power?
wooden schooner
even such a person should always wear insulating gloves, no?
lusty fossil
I'm not sure, I'm no sparky. I would think so but I can't cite a safety code
MFW when I know I'm gonna be up all night
wooden schooner
being up all night on a sunday is rough
puts a dent right in the start of the week, if you operate on a Mon-Fri work week
hope you get some rest when it's over
lusty fossil
I do. Deadline is friday
wooden schooner
good.
lusty fossil
I'm gonna sleep all weekend
but I'm working all of Thxgiving too so it's just plain rough
wooden schooner
for me it often happens that, if I know I have to stay up really late to get something done, my body goes into anxiety shutdown
so the thing does not get done
lusty fossil
yeah I always "freeze" when choosing between fight, flight, or freeze
wooden schooner
yeah. It would be cool if I gained the ability to fly when I got stressed, but alas
lusty fossil
but what if you're at 30k feet and you relax??
I guess that would immediately cause more stress so you'd be safe
wooden schooner
a true Wile E. Coyote moment
wooden schooner
I guess that would immediately cause more stress so you'd be safe
but this is genius
lusty fossil
kind of a perpetual motion machine
quartz wren
Same energy: https://youtu.be/eJc6-DgaQa0
nah I didn't see anyone doing the taco stand
quartz wren
also this is me when I was running out of steam
I can tell because my suspenders are broken by this point
which means it's after I broke them doing the worm
quartz wren
(which sounds horrible)
yeah, imagine not having smooth modulation on stress hormones
that would be quite a ride
even without the flying
oh wait, I know exactly what that's like 😛
(you know, without the flying)
yo did the logo here just change?
I feel like a minute ago the logo was normal
then it got updated
erm not logo, but the pic for the server
which contains the logo
blissful roost
Yarp
vagrant wolf
https://youtu.be/b6GZzmDwtyM low quality but there were also professional photog...
cool channel, what do you use for editing
just wanna know
quartz wren
It's all done with blender and some open source video editor that I'm blanking on the name of
vagrant wolf
Cuul
quartz wren
It's on my PC inside I'll let you know what it is when I'm back in there
Oh and for recording audio just audacity with a decent set of hardware
That I borrowed because poor and now don't have access too lel
But now I know what to buy when I get some income from an audio equipment project I'm working on with input from Kenny G's son Max
quartz wren
Many do
vagrant wolf
£200 for delivery of distilled water lol
vagrant wolf
£14 of distilled water to cost £200 for domestic shipping
: (((((((
diy distilled water time
quartz wren
But now I know what to buy when I get some income from an audio equipment projec...
Oh and Max says he wants to come visit my lab some time and keep updated on what I'm working on 😄
vagrant wolf
what are you working on now
quartz wren
Well first finishing the lab assembly, then I'll be working on doing an FPGA project capable of self-reprogramming using its own described hardware and the audio equipment thing that I think will be my cash cow so I don't want to get too detailed lest someone snipe it.
And that's a cash cow that's at a price musicians are happy to pay and don't feel ripped off, if I do it right
vagrant wolf
: o
quartz wren
I will give a bit of a hint that doesn't go into detail about the product itself
It involves 3D printing custom fitted cases that if enough people buy a particular design of, it goes to injection molding instead of 3D printing
And the price point he asked for? I can get the materials for less than half that even in the prototype phase
And I have all the required components for prototyping on hand
Just have to get the lab together, sort things, and then get to work
And this is just the tip of the techberg
I'm onto some big things and I intend to bring a lot of people up with me
Hey @delicate stream was it you that said you want to work for me some day? That day may come sooner than I thought hahaha
Going to this wedding and meeting people, growing my family, making a lasting good impression, etc. has just put the pedal to the metal on my life timeline so you may be hearing either a lot from me over the next little while or almost nothing
Because things just got super real for me
late fulcrum
Hmm, I'm also considering an injection molding project with a similar sort of model.
quartz wren
Well, definitely get in touch so we can help each other rather than stepping on toes
You have me on DM 😛, you know where to find me
Things got crazy real for my life in the past week so I'll try to get back to any messages as soon as I can but things are getting hectic yo
In a really good way
Like I thought networking online was awesome but it's only half of it! In person connections with people you know pretty well online just explodes the possibilities
quartz wren
And in my experience those are the connections that last because they weren't predicated on being in close proximity
tardy badger
Me: makes an RP2040 board
Hackster io: “this is cool but the Pico is better”
Some press is better than none at this point lol..
It’s not bad press but they definitely make a point in comparing it to the pico
lusty fossil
Managed 4 hrs sleep
tardy badger
Noice
lusty fossil
Passed out on the couch
tardy badger
wary herald
£14 of distilled water to cost £200 for domestic shipping
2 pounds of electronics costs 200 bucks to ship to Austria - I don't live there, I'm shipping there
Maybe
stoic mesa
From where?
dusty citrus
I once tried to ship 100 liters of heavy water to canada once but it would have required renting 70 wagons at 5000$ each from the midwest US 😦
like 1.5 liters per wagon
stoic mesa
Are you building a nuclear reactor???
lusty fossil
Nah it's for a basketball hoop, they want it really sturdy
quartz wren
@vagrant wolf the video editor I used is called shotcut, just figured I'd be a man of my word and follow up on that
vagrant wolf
thanks]
subtle fable
I am gaming
idle iron
i have a old game and watch that takes tiny batteries its an ugly orangish color
wooden schooner
2 pounds of electronics costs 200 bucks to ship to Austria - I don't live there,...
vagrant wolf
lol
wary herald
Lose 200$ as you pass lol
peak talon
The Thonksgovong server icon reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6L6v6yEQOA
lusty fossil
mfw I can't remember whether or not I pottied the dog this morning, and don't know if I'm gonna come home to a huge mess
Make sure you get enough sleep folks, decision making is hampered by lack of sleep
at least I have laminate and not carpet
dusty citrus
at least I have laminate and not carpet
There is that
dusty citrus
Make sure you get enough sleep folks, decision making is hampered by lack of sle...
That's why I'm extra careful when crossing streets when sleepy
wait for the signal, check 10 times on each side to be sure
I mean sometimes when I sleepy I pour my coffee in my sugar or throw away the sugar packets when full ...
but coffee is like a pill for me, need it for survival
dusty citrus
tea caffeine doesn't seem to work on me
for some reason, get caffeine withdrawal headaches when I drink tea
lusty fossil
Supposedly mate has another stimulant in it besides caffeine
lusty fossil
Nice! Can't wait to see it spin. Make sure you put it in #show-and-tell
dusty citrus
Very cool
wooden schooner
Anyone have experience sandboxing the Zoom client for Linux?
Background: About ...
wow, it Just Works™! The package on Flathub knows what permissions it needs and presents them to me for approval (including a small whitelist of directories for filesystem access)
A little bit of flickering in the video, probably due to some graphics driver issue, but still generally much better than running from a Windows VM
lol, I just typoed to a friend, "hey got a minute for a test oom call?"
a telling typo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_memory)
dusty citrus
Am I the only one who's scared for my safety to go in a country where I only have basic knowledge of the language ?
Like I know a very little hebrew and spanish but I'm scared of going because I don't even know the words for get on the ground
And I'm not sure I'd survive a police encounter or customs encounter in there
dusty citrus
sorry edited my message
umbral phoenix
I think it depends a lot on where you go. A lot of English speakers in many cities. Whether the population is diverse, or whether you're an outlier. Whether you're with others or solo, or in an area frequented by tourists or deep in a local area.
vagrant wolf
hello kitty island adventure
stoic mesa
Am I the only one who's scared for my safety to go in a country where I only hav...
I'd say it depends on the country a lot.
I know no Italian, but feel safe travelling to Italy.
OTOH, traveling to Afghanistan is certainly dangerous even for people speaking perfect Pashto
umbral phoenix
learning just a few basic words and phrases goes far... hello, goodbye, please, thank you
quartz wren
Where is the bathroom etc.
dapper hatch
Hope you don't mind a shameless plug. 🙂 Here is a little app I have written for my entry into devember over on level1techs forums. Add one line to your c/cpp files and execute them just like the python people do with their source files. 🙂 Ultimate open source, you run the source. https://github.com/HamAndEggs/seabang
stray wind
Well, my best friend has lesions on her spine and may have MS.
I'm really sorry to hear that.
stray wind
I understand. I really hope that's not the issue. The science surrounding treatment and such has improved over the years, so there's at least that. Though I still don't know anyone with MS who doesn't have terrible days anyway. 😦
lusty fossil
Yeah that's my understanding as well. Hopefully the treatments continue to improve.
stray wind
Agreed.
lusty fossil
But we're in America so this is gonna get expensive quick
stray wind
Also valid 😕
dusty citrus
Apparently NASA dart will attack an innocent unarmed asteroid for no reason , not even self-defense
jovial path
Hi there, good evening.
late fulcrum
Make sure you get enough sleep folks, decision making is hampered by lack of sle...
Just saw a video by someone who clicked on a scam link by mistake because they were tired.
real falcon
thats why I love noscript. lovely
quartz wren
gorgeous
lusty fossil
Just saw a video by someone who clicked on a scam link by mistake because they w...
I did that at work once. Fortunately it was a test scam from our security people
I got a talking to
ancient kindle
My work hates what I do with those emails
I know they're fake so I try and look for exploits
lusty fossil
Shout out to all the people who come to conversations late, read the whole thing, and reply with an answer. You're the real MVPs
dusty citrus
I did that at work once. Fortunately it was a test scam from our security people
I've noticed troll post on google images with inofensive keywords like textbox or console.writeline being associated with work-inappropriate pictures
been using strict parental filter at work since then 😦
even then I'm not going to search while screen sharing
fading hare
You ever gotten bored enough with exploit bots trying age-old protocols like finger to just up and write a finger honeypot using NodeJS?
dusty citrus
i'd do much more hacking if we had a right to self-defense in hacking (ie: attack back) or if we could attack enemies of our countries as some citizens in the world have the right to
but yeah I thought about doing an interesting project like this before, even had a fake interpreter for smtp at work
Also modified the fake smtp to actually test business software that send email so we wouldn't have to change the emails in testing environnement and so the testers could see the resulting email by loading a file in their mail client
I often see some automated tools trying to grab my /etc/passwd on windows when passwords have been in /etc/shadow for millenias
slim shard
to be fair, that would be a worthy thing to note if it weren't :-)
blissful roost
You mean, you don't store fakes in /etc/passwd for a joke?!?
dusty citrus
I'm on windows server, don't even have an /etc/passwd
blissful roost
😁
I know
dusty citrus
so they didn't even do custom logic in their tool or do any efforts
If I hacked I woujld have at the very least a launcher to launch tools that did basic logic
like if (windows_10) etc...
and if it was legal a basic check on the IP/domain extension to know if it's in my country's laws allowed target countries
blissful roost
I set up my websites to bounce dodgy requests back to 127.0.0.1
That's about the most I ever do. Lol
dusty citrus
yeah I have a lot of sites in my hosts file that redirect to 127.0.0.1
blissful roost
👍
dusty citrus
even made a page in my IIS that detect it and automatically return fake ads javascript so that I don't get blocked for blocking ads 😄
dusty citrus
doesn't always work but fool a couple of site especially when you actually signed up for API keys to these sites 😄
blissful roost
I should fire up the baby server and get an OS installed.
dusty citrus
Honestly for fun if I could see the attack I'd probably just install a MUD with aliases command
blissful roost
Lol
dusty citrus
and see them go crazy as the MUD return "You do not see 'ls' in a small darkhaven academy bag"
fading hare
I used to contribute to CircleMUD
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO GO NORTH TO SEE FILES?"
dusty citrus
my only claim to fame in MUD was being a judge on the 16k mud competition from erwin andreasen, one of them was one of the senior coder on ultima online
fading hare
swoons
dusty citrus
otherwise I was just a "script kiddie" using snippets and adding little because I didn't know how to solve pointers problems
fading hare
Well. That's how I started (as a scriptie kiddie). Then I had two different, really smart, people message me at the same time and ask me what TH I just did with the CircleMUD string buffer memory patch and the assemblies patch and how I turned it into a full-fledged crafting system...
dusty citrus
ah not ultima online, 3d realms after all but they worked on half-life for valve after that and guild wars so not bad I guess ?
fading hare
still not bad
dusty citrus
I was amazed how he knew his stuff and how he recommended me books to get the big pîcture in programming and understand the layer of abstraction under what I was using
fading hare
I had a two-level marble just outside of Dungeon Destard. Prime real estate. Lots of trees to cut for lumber. Only downside was it was hard to script because there was a roaming level 234798237 gargoyle that would come and eat me every so often.
dusty citrus
he was very patient and I don't think I would have made it as a coder without his general guidelines because I was getting very negative "you'll never make it" vibes from linpeople/freenode back then
fading hare
freenode just became exponentially more toxic as the years passed, it was kind of fascinating to watch
blissful roost
Yeah... Whatever happened with the "crown prince" was just final nails in the coffin.
dusty citrus
made a lot of contact due to that after the competition and was easy to be a coder on some other muds because of trust even if I sucked 😄
fading hare
it could have been the final episode in like Falcon Crest. Or Days of Our Lives.
dusty citrus
but it's all gone from mudconnect now
dusty citrus
also helped me to become gamespy staff as one of these contact was also a big modder on soldier of fortune
rings a bell but back then the big flamewars were kavir's godwars and how some muds were alledgedly not following diku license
dusty citrus
I'm still trying to convert CoffeeMUD because of MIT license to a sort of 2d unity rpg 😦
fading hare
My favorite MUD of all time was probably 4 Dimensions.
dusty citrus
Can't find a free windows client that does correct MXP
If I could I could actually put the sprites in coffeemud, but their built-in telnet client is very basic
fading hare
hmmm
dusty citrus
MUDs are a bit too old to my taste, but they provide a lot of basic systems
which I feel every RPG try to reinvent
hum can I find this thing....
blissful roost
Installed TrueNAS... Not sure it's the option for me.
fading hare
I just blew my own mind and wondered what kind of weird font I was using in PyCharm. Turns out it was just Noto Mono, but with ligatures turned on. 😆
like that rd
dusty citrus
Fief management game I'm working on, testing attributes generation, using a loaded 'loot' table to generate names, if they have a middle name, family name and generate a tree along with 60 skills that goes from 0 to 1000 on potential and 0 to potential on current ability, clamped by age and social class following a normal distribution
I can generate a total of 78 billions names from the census data if you include the middle name
Also using a similar system to generate loot so I can generate every wheat over billions of acres along with their rarity in a few seconds
The current ability/potential thing is inspired from football manager while the skills are a mix of the ones in ad&d/morrowind and gurps
There's also the concept of passion for a skill (love/hate) from rimworld (ie: just because you are good at something doesn't mean you like it)
fading hare
🖤
that's amazing
I had a pretty good time learning and using Markov Chains for automatically generated descriptions for locations, people, monsters, whatever.
slim shard
Installed TrueNAS... Not sure it's the option for me.
it has its place, though I'm having trouble updating one now
fading hare
These days I could probably replace the Markov Chains with a really tiny ML program.
blissful roost
it has its place, though I'm having trouble updating one now
To be a bit lame.. I'd rather set up everything via a GUI, rather than a web interface.
slim shard
I'm not a huge fan of web control on everything, but for a headless system, it kinda makes a little sense
dusty citrus
Well the two issues that have been blocking me for a while is having some sort of mental attributes to determine how effectively they use their skills/learn/asks for a wage related to them
And how the player would even find skilled peoples for whatever cottage industry he's running
The general idea was to do it with spells since such skill doesn't exists in any rpg books I've read, kinda like appraise(skill) because the other person might be trying to fool you
Generally spells would be higher level/cost more the more accurate they are or the larger amount of peoples they can handle and the more skills they can handle
ie: casting the spell to have a strength aura out of 3 in the village temple for 180 peoples would be low level and a large margin of error
while an high level one would be tell me exactly who are the top 5 best potential goldsmith in the metropolis of 1m
blissful roost
I'm not a huge fan of web control on everything, but for a headless system, it k...
I'd much rather work via SSH and learn some automation too.
Maybe puppet, or whatever is more relevant to career prospects.
dusty citrus
example loot table for wheat: rotten:19048 very_poor:4389 poor:4329 shoddy:4742 subpar:6153 normal:2841 uncommon:349 masterwork:89 rare:51 epic:10 legendary:0 mythical:0
There are 4 types of soil in my algorithm: scorched, poor, normal and rich
markov chains sounds like weighted state machines?
anyway that is what I wanted to add using a proven MUD as "backend"
fading hare
Yo. I want that Mythical Wheat™
Maybe as a cereal. How many wheat farmers do I have to rob to finally get it?
dusty citrus
it's for crafting great raid food (or for being taxed by the count above you, their lord, etc up to the king/emperor) but you'd need mythical skill level current ability and mythical tool
and most serfs don't even have the skill to tell a very small sand sized wheat grain is mythical
ie: that's the potential of that grain but doesn't mean it will be noticed/usable by whoever grow it
dusty citrus
yeah, the rarity was inspired by diku/eq/wow 😄
fading hare
you remember heavy stones? 😄
fading hare
that's how the auction house was crashed the first time
dusty citrus
speaking of auction house that's another problem I solved with an NPC auction house with minimal and maximal prices and adventurers auction houses (still with minimal/maximal prices for stuff usable by NPCs)
blissful roost
You ever play World of Warcraft?
I started playing it a few weeks ago
dusty citrus
because I dislike price cutting in world of warcraft so I ffound my own solution
Also i'm using World of warcaft icons as placeholders atm
fading hare
bad actor bought all the heavy stones (including making their own) driving up price through scarcity, people were elated, selling lots and lots of it making tons of money, then he just started dumping heavy stone stacks for a 10th of the price, crashing the entire market
dusty citrus
basically if you sell iron ore/bars for too low on the adventurers auction house a nearby NPC will buy it for sure for their own use if they are nearby
fading hare
don't totally quote me on that, because it was like 20 years ago, and I was probably drunk when it happened
dusty citrus
and if none are being sold for high enough or for too high that is a great opportunity for NPC blacksmith to sell their
fading hare
that's neat, I like that
dusty citrus
And you have to keep in mind a 1acre of flax field produce about 9000 cotton clothes when all processed 😄
fading hare
don't forget byproducts, from success, partial success, and failures
dusty citrus
so a bit off world of warcraft scale, making 1 robe is one thing but you'll need a lot of clothes to make robes for everyone in your fiefd
fading hare
and then use those to craft even more stuff with
dusty citrus
I use coins atm for byproducts because it require a lot of research
so I abstract it away
fading hare
because things don't just disappear
dusty citrus
by selling it at the temple for atoms value in it as a money adder in the game
ie: wheat is 92% efficient, for the 8% of byproducts you get a copper piece for the "atoms"
fading hare
some are easy though... like making a leather jerkin leaves a bunch of leather scraps, that can be turned into strips, that can be wrapped around the hilt of a sword, or as whatever else
dusty citrus
also reducing intermediaries or owning them as cottage industry is a thing
ie: By law farmer costs are a symbolic 1 copper for barley, they sell it for 3copper. Those who process it pay 3 copper for it and sell it for 9 copper to bakeries/etc who sell it for 27 copper as bread/etc
and cottage industry have to pay a flat fee to the lord of the fief for their business but besides that they are freemens not serfs (and hence better skills following normal distribution
but because of my knowledge of finances in reality after the flat fee they have shareholders they give dividends to 😄
fading hare
what about laws? will serfs break laws?
dusty citrus
That is my next phase after I'm done with the initial conditions
Simulating turns to see how the AI evolves
fading hare
if so, how much is the executioner paid per?
dusty citrus
I don't know yet, atm law is a flat fee added to the lord revenues
as back then they mostly used fines for most crimes
fading hare
gotta look up some old executioner tariffs... beheading is cheap, drawing and quartering is pricey, need horses, chains, lots of space
dusty citrus
my approach is usually rolling how many bricklayers I have in the fief
fading hare
are they unusually prone to criminal acts?
dusty citrus
then randomly designating them weighted with their current skill in it and age so I have master, journeyman apprentices etc
I,d probably use the same approach for crimes
find how many arsonists I have and designate those with the skills to do it most
or the motivation when the mental system is done
fading hare
Would be interesting if you also took into account their parents and current living conditions.
dusty citrus
Did I mention I have a mechanic for putting a price on skills so you can sell your serfs to an higher lord kinda like transfeee fees in football and they get a wage inflation like in IRL soccer ?
fading hare
And then create the mythical criminal, the bicentennial dude with the boarding house where people just disappear
dusty citrus
so finding peoples with huge potential is a big thing or with a lot of skill
dusty citrus
Higher lords can eventually seize them so you have limited time to develop them and sell them
Not sure yet, gotta build piece by piece
fading hare
what's the project name for this sim?
dusty citrus
But I'm using the settlement generation from Pathfinder so I know which fiefs are monstrous and their alignment
2DMUDFIEFGAME 😄
Land division is based on France so far (but drawing is going to be random)
And there is only 1 medieval serfdom hierarchy
so a count to someone isn't the lowly lord of someone else
fading hare
hahaha you should have a competition on some random degenerate place like 4chan to let people name the game
dusty citrus
Was hoping to use the US but it doesn't have serfdom based divisions
fading hare
France is better than England, way less complicated borders
brah, the US didn't exist back when there were fiefdoms in Europe 😉
dusty citrus
yeah but the system today is mostly based on all lands owned by the crown, then divided as back then
especially in Canada
fading hare
massive difference
dusty citrus
ie: Canada divive the crown lands (almost all of canada) to p^rovinces in exchange for two-way obligations
Then provinces divide it to cities
fading hare
in a fiefdom you don't really OWN the land... you have the RIGHT to yield crops on it, that are then used as payment, and on top of that, you are taxed
dusty citrus
who then divide it to you who doN,t have the land and only rent it and 10feet underground
fading hare
so, the difference between a serf and a slave is that the serf thinks they're working to get paid
dusty citrus
But using modern france divisions that mean 101 duke (departments), 334 arrondissements (immediate family of dukes, largely owned by princes and extended royal family)