I want to use LaTeX because I figure any time lost relearning LaTeX would also be lost fiddling with a word processor to get things how I want them
#general-chat
crystal ore
I'm afraid I haven't used a wiki in quite a while, so I can't recommend one. Another alternative might be something like a Markdown document.
lusty fossil
Ok cool thanks. I think in terms of "can a layperson learn to work on this" it would go wiki > markdown >> LaTeX?
crystal ore
Yep, most likely.
lusty fossil
Thx I'll do some research on wiki software
lusty fossil
What's a good way to secure a master password for a wiki? Like I want a sufficiently complex one such that it's difficult to brute force but that means a number of people need to remember that password..
delicate stream
Probably only one person should have a master password? But if you use a password manager, nobody should need to remember it, and a lot have secure sharing features
lusty fossil
Yeah a password manager would be good. Idk who I'd need to sell that to
I'd probably have to be the IT guy for it, apparently our IT guy is unhelpful and expensive. Indeed, he is a friend of the owner
subtle fable
Isn’t that the Porsche concept
blissful roost
Nope.
New Lotus.
subtle fable
Oh they look similar
lusty fossil
The original tesla roadster was a re geared lotus right?
blissful roost
Yes, an Elise
lusty fossil
I'm from Seattle so growing up I got to see a few of those in the flesh
blissful roost
Ehh
subtle fable
Come on, it’s a Homologation special
delicate stream
DeLorean FTW
lusty fossil
I find all these super cars aesthetically pleasing but I just can't see myself taking one to Safeway
But I guess I have to consider that if I could afford one I wouldn't be doing my own grocery shopping
delicate stream
Eh... I've had it twice, first time was a major disappointment, I got it "stock", sans pickles. It was kinda dry and sad. Second time I got it with extra sauce, and it was better, but the raw onions kinda overwhelm the rest of it... Sauted onions would be so much better.
Next time I'll try with no pickles or onions and extra sauce, and I think it'll be good
lusty fossil
Hmm ok that's enough for me to try it
It must be so weird for kids who's parents had them be in a movie as a baby and didn't continue in acting. Like your little baby self is forever memorialized in film without your consent!
Or TV show
delicate stream
If you want your own version, On-Cor has boneless rib shaped BBQ dinners... Those are DELICIOUS. Super sweet BBQ sauce, I always lap up every drop! Great on a soft bun
delicate stream
It's frozen stuff you get at a supermarket
lusty fossil
Oh man door dash charges 10 dollars for delivery of mcds
I guess I'm going in person
delicate stream
Oof
delicate stream
yikes
lusty fossil
Total cost is 2x the meal cost rather
delicate stream
Unrelated... Just had a YouTube ad where there was about 3 seconds of just like, a shot of people standing around chatting, and then it cut to a scrolling text wall about a medication and the side-effects... that would go for another 2 minutes! What is this?!
delicate stream
Yeah, I don't think it should be allowed. Doctors should be the ones learning about new medication options for their patients, not the other way around
lusty fossil
Yup
delicate stream
Over the counter allergy meds? Ok, that's one thing... Prescriptions? No.
lusty fossil
Yeah I'm not qualified to ask my doctor about a specific medicine
delicate stream
And some people basically harass their doctors because of those commercials... it's not good
bbl, gotta do stuff
lapis bluff
And the best of those are the ones where they never actually tell you what the med is for; just: "Ask your doctor if alphabet soup is right for you.
lusty fossil
And then a huge train of awful side effects lol
vagrant sonnet
I like to think of "side effects" as "effects the marketers want you to not think about."
Whereas the "usage" is "effects the marketers want you to think about."
delicate stream
McRib was just ok
It's one of those things I just kinda recommend everyone try for the sake of saying they tried it, lol. But I know some people are gonna fall in love with it...
lusty fossil
Yeah people like it, I'm not gonna yuck anyone's yum, but it's not for me
lusty fossil
Ah those contain some of my allergens but they look delicious
In Seattle there is, or maybe was, a place that did vegan twinkies
delicate stream
Very nom
lusty fossil
That's a pretty solid chunk of the honeydo list I bet
delicate stream
Maybe I should get Ubiquiti gear for home
lusty fossil
I've been advised to run any IoT devices on a VLAN. What equipment do I need for that?
delicate stream
A router with VLAN support
tardy badger
I wanted a 16 port PoE switch from Ubiquiti but it was out of stock
It’s fairly easy to create an isolated network
delicate stream
Imagine if things were in stock
lusty fossil
A router with VLAN support
tardy badger
Imagine if things were in stock
Yeah, so true.. things just don’t stay in stock consistently enough
Hoping tax time the PoE switch will be in stock and I can get some cameras
lusty fossil
I messed up my withholdings somehow so I'm gonna get a ton back.
delicate stream
Does this count? https://www.amazon.com/Linksys-MR9600-Dual-Band-Wireless-Future...
Hmm... I see no mention of VLAN support, but usually the higher end models do...
lusty fossil
I don't have any kids, glad to have seen the child tax credit go out regardless though
lusty fossil
Hmm... I see no mention of VLAN support, but usually the higher end models do...
This is still in the plastic wrap so I can get pretty good money for it if it doesnr
delicate stream
lol
lusty fossil
I've had it so long I don't think I can return it but I also need to do a bunch of cable running that I've been avoiding so I never unwrapped jt
delicate stream
Well, you could hook it up and check, and worst case just use it as an AP, lol
lusty fossil
Yeah but it loses value when I take the plastic off.
delicate stream
Eh
lusty fossil
I'll search for VLAN capable routers first and see if this one comes up
Found one
Not much more expensive
tardy badger
delicate stream
Grrr Amazon, y u no show me the same thing
lusty fossil
Interesting. Amazon customer questions haven't often been relevant
tardy badger
Probably why I like Ubiquiti stuff
delicate stream
I'm melting
tardy badger
Too hot?
delicate stream
Yee
tardy badger
Darn climate change
delicate stream
I mean it might more be the 2500W of computers
tardy badger
Lol
lusty fossil
Can anyone tell if this one does VLAN? The datasheet won't open on my phone. https://unifi-nanohd.ui.com/
tardy badger
Can anyone tell if this one does VLAN? The datasheet won't open on my phone. htt...
It’s a Ubiquiti device so you can configure vlan in the Unifi controller software.
lusty fossil
Ahhh cool
tardy badger
Definitely recommend a cloud key Gen 2 controller
lusty fossil
I've seen these around and for some reason thought they looked cheaply made but they seem impressive technically
tardy badger
Or the standard Dream Machine which kind of looks like an Alexa
They are really nice
Powered over Ethernet so only one cable
lusty fossil
Nice
delicate stream
PoE fun
lusty fossil
Do I need special cables for that
tardy badger
Nah, Cat5e works fine
tardy badger
I use cat6 because it is fairly future proof
delicate stream
Laughs in CAT7
delicate stream
CAT7 does 100G
tardy badger
Expensive
lusty fossil
"I'm downloading the internet mom, gimme a minute."
tardy badger
Not that homes will get 10G in the next 25 years
delicate stream
I mean, I only have 100Mbps internet right now anyway XD
tardy badger
We can barely get 1-2.5G speeds to 10% of Us households
delicate stream
I just need speeds internally...
tardy badger
I have 800Mbps
delicate stream
Lucky
tardy badger
I pay $60/m for it
lusty fossil
Yeah I've complained about this before but the owners of my complex turned down a fiber install
tardy badger
My dream machine pro supports fiber WLAN connection through a SFP+ connector
Up to 10G I believe
delicate stream
We pay $120/month for TV/internet/phone
tardy badger
And has a 10G SFP+ output to connect to a switch aggregator or a L2/L3 switch
Which I plan to use a DAC cable between my dream machine and 16 port PoE switch
1G DAC should be sufficient
lusty fossil
Is that not a digital to analog converter or is it?
delicate stream
If your network connection isn't warping space-time, is it really fast enough?
tardy badger
So less than 55m cat6 can do 10G
delicate stream
50m CAT7 can do 40G apparently
tardy badger
Is that not a digital to analog converter or is it?
DAC for networking is Direct Attach Cable
lusty fossil
Ahhh
tardy badger
Sorry I fixed the name
lusty fossil
What does it do?
tardy badger
Direct Attach Copper providers very high speed connection over very short distances
Like up to like 10m
Look under “current applications”
Anyway, they have SFP+ connectors rather than Ethernet
Specialized for very high speed applications
lusty fossil
Interesting
lusty fossil
I see why it pays well
tardy badger
Network planning and network infrastructure engineers make pretty decent money
umbral phoenix
I had to add an 8 port switch
delicate stream
When you need an active repeater
umbral phoenix
she's been making fun 'shops for many many years
tardy badger
When you need an active repeater
Yeah? I could actually see that. Ethernet only is good for 100m so you need to “boost” the signal so to speak around that point if you have runs that long.
I thought PoE had a longer range than 100m, guess not
I think it’s a limitation of the conductor itself
lusty fossil
Like any longer and a high signal drops so low it's no longer digital hi?
late fulcrum
Not that homes will get 10G in the next 25 years
You can get 10G today in some places (part of Vermont is one of them)
tardy badger
Apparently you can get 10G home fiber in some parts of Salt Lake City too
It’s expensive
lusty fossil
You can get 10G today in some places (part of Vermont is one of them)
If it weren't for the winters....
late fulcrum
Heh, I'm with you there.
tardy badger
Winter is fine. It’s a nice break from sweltering heat
Salisbury, NC apparently was the first city in the US to have 10G fiber
That was in 2015
late fulcrum
That climate is much more compatible with my physiology
tardy badger
Salisbury?
umbral phoenix
The @FCC defines broadband as 25Mbps
lusty fossil
I'm a fan of the desert
tardy badger
NC is too hot and humid
late fulcrum
For you: that's a subjective evaluation.
tardy badger
Utah is hot during the summers but there are really tall mountains to go play around in
blissful roost
NC is too hot and humid
Not been to NC, yet.
tardy badger
I lived there for 4 years
blissful roost
I have some buddies there.. as well as family in NC & SC
tardy badger
It was just.. miserably hot. Couldn’t hardly do anything in the summer
Heat indexes there make it dangerous to do any prolonged outside activities
lusty fossil
Yeah southern heat is no joke
tardy badger
I do miss the NC Zoo though
blissful roost
Well, I had the whole 2 weeks of the English summer. 😛
tardy badger
We got a membership just before the pandemic and it was.. a sanity saver
umbral phoenix
10G is ridiculous, I suspect very few people can really take advantage of it
tardy badger
It’s hard to maintain those speeds too
Most ISPs offering 10G say you’ll usually see between 3-5G on average
umbral phoenix
even so, 4K video is <25Mbps... that's 100-200 4K streams in a house
lusty fossil
Wow
umbral phoenix
looks at DSL modem
tardy badger
closes 100 YouTube tabs running 4K
tardy badger
I don’t even have a 4K tv, only devices I have that can do 4K is my phone and iPads 😝
I guess my M1 MacBook Pro can do 4K video too
late fulcrum
My DSL modem varies between 3kbps and 3Mbps depending on its mood, line noise, and how long since it has been restarted.
umbral phoenix
yikes, mine's pretty solid at 5Mbps
wary herald
If it weren't for the winters....
Love the winters
late fulcrum
I dumbed my new smart TV the same way.
umbral phoenix
A dumb TV is just a "smart" TV that isn't connected to the internet 😉
stoic mesa
I have an old laptop hooked to a projector for a tv
wary herald
I disabled all the settings on my Fire TV the same way
umbral phoenix
time for surgery 😉
late fulcrum
I have an old laptop hooked to a projector for a tv
wary herald
As much as I could
tardy badger
Apparently customers don’t have legitimate reasons to “disable it”
tardy badger
time for surgery 😉
If I had money to buy a backup TV sure lol
late fulcrum
A little copper tape in the right spot should do the trick.
tardy badger
I’ve thought about it
stoic mesa
wow... I wish I had a projector like that
late fulcrum
You want that projector? I don't really use it, and after a fair amount of research, I determined the ANSI code for its oddball bulb, and even obtained a couple of spares.
tardy badger
My internet connected TV option is my Apple TV
umbral phoenix
same
late fulcrum
Heh, mine too
stoic mesa
@late fulcrum is it 16mm?
late fulcrum
The Apple TV grew to distrust my ancient plasma, as it only supported an early version of HDCP, so I had to loop in a spoofing box.
tardy badger
During peak home hours, my Wifi in my living room seems to drop off. I live in an apartment
late fulcrum
35mm, although I have surplus 16mm projectors as well.
umbral phoenix
I don't even let my satellite box talk to the internet, even if it means no on-demand watching
umbral phoenix
During peak home hours, my Wifi in my living room seems to drop off. I live in a...
interference?
tardy badger
Yeah
wary herald
My Wifi drops off when my Smart TV, my other computer, this computer, and my other-other computer are all running at the same time - hehe
To 13 MBPS
umbral phoenix
my interference is of my own making (lots of CircuitPython devices), no neighbors within -85 to -90 dB of me
tardy badger
Interference is mild during the middle of the day only eating 5-7% of my utilized channels
wary herald
I turned them all on and speedtesting at the same time
tardy badger
But evenings interference is as much as 40% in 2.4GHz channels
5GHz, 10-15% on more common channels
wary herald
Wifi life's hard
I try to have a good balance of privacy to features
It's a really hard sacrifice
tardy badger
Interference is pretty low now
wary herald
Nice
tardy badger
tardy badger
But still lots of utilization on the 2.4GHz bands
tardy badger
No
wary herald
That's too good of a deal
tardy badger
I have a setup I manage myself
tardy badger
$60/m for 800/15 connection. Using a Dream Machine Pro for my main network appliance
tardy badger
Then I have to use 2 APs to cover my whole apartment because interference from other apartments is bad
Cya
lusty fossil
Wheel of Time comes out in five days!
quartz wren
I did a art
lusty fossil
Nice work!
quartz wren
Thanks it's fueled by pent up frustration I can't pinpoint the source of
It's called "Portals to the Otherverse"
real falcon
interesting. very full of detail. nice
wary herald
I did a art
I stink at art - so that's amazing.
quartz wren
interesting. very full of detail. nice
yeah, basically how these things go is I start with some basic structural line work and then my brain sees white space and I just fill it in aesthetically, then I end up going into some kind of trance and suddenly much time has passed and my arm hurts
quartz wren
I stink at art - so that's amazing.
thanks, it's just doodles to practice for drawings that actually mean something
real falcon
interesting
real falcon
tardy badger
Read an article how the Chinese government used a shell company to buy an Italian military drone manufacturer and illegally transferred military tech to China. So wild. Apparently they target European companies because of self reporting requirements for foreign investment/takeover
The article said it was unclear why exactly they bought this Italian drone manufacturer since China makes a majority of drones already
limber jackal
Does this drone manufacturer provide goods or services to other industries or companies that they're trying to either a) prevent or b) get official dealings with?
tardy badger
It suggested that maybe they wanted access to a sensor or specialized semiconductor. Possibly even software they want to scale
weary fiber
Random take: it seems like NFTs are (a kind of) propaganda to make people embrace the concept of DRM
wooden schooner
Random take: it seems like NFTs are (a kind of) propaganda to make people embrac...
Can you spell that out a little?
weary fiber
DRM (Digital Rights Management) is basically the concept that a person/entity can own an arrangement of digital bits
Movie copy protection, for example
It makes some sense, especially for budding music artists, but by & large it has a tendency to be abused
wooden schooner
I know drm
weary fiber
OH, sorry lol
wooden schooner
I'm looking for the tie in to nft which I know much less about
weary fiber
My interpretation is this:
wooden schooner
Other than that it doesn't work
weary fiber
The tech crowd has (seemingly) been against DRM for a while, pro-open source, freedom of information and such
wooden schooner
And such.
weary fiber
Whereas NFTs seem to be generating a large number of people who're suddenly passionate about "ownership" of a given collection of bits
wooden schooner
I do not view drm as being a freedom of information issue, fwiw
weary fiber
textbooks that cost $600+ and force you to access a website to view their digital versions you paid for
counterexample ^
wooden schooner
That's not freedom of information, it's unfair limitation on paid use
I am happy to pay for media that I then get to use how I wish
weary fiber
unfair limitation, which could be remedied by freedom of information
weary fiber
In my mental model, I consider media an understandable cost
but I consider raw information, (historical documents, research papers, textbooks) something that should be freely available
stoic mesa
textbook has to be written by someone.
And in many cases, that someone expects to be paid
wooden schooner
OK so we differ on that I view textbooks as sellable media
weary fiber
"restricting information behind a paywall to fund further research" is A solution, but a bad one in my opinion
wooden schooner
Research papers are different because of academic journal profiteering cough Elsevier and research is funded in other ways
Textbooks ≠ research
weary fiber
the fact that many academic journals can cost hundreds (and give almost none of that money to researchers) is a sign of a flawed system to me
stoic mesa
the real issue is not that textbooks cost money but that universities typically do not care about that cost and force students to buy expensive textbooks even when cheaper/free alternatives exist
wooden schooner
Elsevier is bad, open access journals are good
Not even oversimplifying that much
The increasing success of open access journals spearheaded by reputable academics is a testament to that
weary fiber
as it should be, imo
wooden schooner
I view this as quite different from the textbook sector
stoic mesa
talking about research, in math and physics almost all new research is posted in arxiv.org, which is freely accessible to anyone
wooden schooner
Was going to say, arxiv is great
weary fiber
yeah fair, textbooks are a bit more nuanced 'cause you're paying for a good-quality presentation of information
still, paying $200 for a textbook that's 4 "editions" old fills me with revolutionary energy lmao
stoic mesa
yes, and I usually download papers from arxiv even if I have access to a final, journal-published version - just because arxiv is easier to use
wooden schooner
In sone fields, the preprint is published to arxiv and separately they pay for the stamp of a journal
The journal typically doesn't pay for peer review, that's done by volunteers
stoic mesa
still, paying $200 for a textbook that's 4 "editions" old fills me with revoluti...
agreed. So people - and more importantly, universities - have to push for cheaper textbooks. Which some unviersities do
wooden schooner
So the journal is just skimming money off the top
weary fiber
Purchasing a textbook should get you a free PDF version in 2021, IMO
wooden schooner
That would be fantastic
stoic mesa
I know I negotiated textbook price with the publisher
wooden schooner
I definitely don't pay for books and then pirate PDFs of them onto my e-reader, that would be terrible
One of my friends who is an indie author said to just pirate the book and mail the author a check
stoic mesa
I have no problem when my books are pirated
wooden schooner
I have not found a good way to support small publishing companies that seem ethical to me
Plus I don't want the dead trees books usually, it's an environmental cost
wooden schooner
I have no problem when my books are pirated
Interesting. You don't mind the lost royalties?
stoic mesa
what roaylties? I get 10% of sale price, so for a typical math book, it is $6/copy. If my book sells 100 copies in a year, that is a great result (except first year, when the libraries get it). So, $600/yr tops. That's not the kind of money I count on to support my family
Of course, for textbooks which are bought by students by tens of thousands, this is very different
wooden schooner
Gil Strang self-published his very popular linear algebra textbook before self-publishing was a thing
I did have the sense that the cuts were on that order of magnitude, but another prof told me he gets a good cut, iirc it was majority of sale price but I might be misremembering
I'll take $6 number as an important data point, thanks
I would guess that there is a big difference between graduate and introductory undergrad texts in terms of sale volume, of course
stoic mesa
it might depend on numbers - I am sure JK Rowling gets more than 10%. I am talking about graduate-level textbooks and monographs
wooden schooner
Like Robin Hartshorne probably makes way less than some rando who wrote yet another calculus textbook
Yeah that makes sense. Thanks for still writing them!
quartz wren
anyone know what they would be able to tell me about a chip marked "AVASEM / 032"
it's by wyse technology
no clue where it came from but by its form factor and pin number it's likely some kind of memory chip or a processing unit of some kind
it also says "192017-02" on it
and on the bottom of it, there's a number "DOF1108-1"
errant steppe
These little trains are perhaps the ultimate maker project? https://youtu.be/NL5sRCRa7AE
lusty fossil
tfw when the water jug is empty and you're only 90% strong enough to lift the new jug into place and all your coworkers are off elsewhere
lusty fossil
are these 3rd party products or from Nintendo?
lusty fossil
nice
lusty fossil
seems like there are a thousand "password strength checkers", does anyone know of a reputable one?
stray wind
seems like there are a thousand "password strength checkers", does anyone know o...
Do you want to generate a new one, or check current ones?
Searching google for "password strength checker", of the links on the first page, I recognise bitwarden.com as probably reasonably reputable. (edited for accuracy)
lusty fossil
I thought kaspersky was a GRU front?
I'm looking to check the strength of a password I want to create
stray wind
I thought kaspersky was a GRU front?
You may be right. I don't recall now. Maybe don't listen to me on this 😄
lusty fossil
haha no worries
I need to change my github password anyway so maybe they have a checker built in
stray wind
I think Bitwarden is legit though. And they have a checker.
I use 1Password to manage all my passwords, and they have one built in. They do not have one online though.
That't what I checked first.
stoic mesa
Kaspersky has been suspected of working with Russian security agencies (which they deny), so if your work is related to national security, you should probably choose something else. However, I don't think it affects the quality of their password checker
stray wind
Kaspersky has been suspected of working with Russian security agencies (which th...
Duly noted. And makes sense.
silver shale
I find it amazing how powerful the RP2040 is
silver shale
Now since I just got the parts for the mp3 player, seeing what keyswitch is the closest to the keyboard on the X200 Tablet ThinkPad that I prefer to write on.
I think MX clears
blissful roost
Why not use an X200 keyboard?
Don't know how that compares to the X220t keyboard, but those are pretty good.
silver shale
For desktops I mean
blissful roost
Ohh.. There's a standalone USB version, if you can find it.
umbral phoenix
What's the reason that sometimes people (or companies default their equipment to) have separate names for the 2.4GHz and 5GHz WiFi access point bands? Most devices that are capable of both should roam easily between them. Of those that can't, some have a setting to restrict which band to use. Is the remaining possibility the main use case... for dual-band devices that don't roam well and don't have a setting?
umbral phoenix
seems a bad tradeoff to default a router to that doesn't let most devices optimize their connections
I had a support call on a 2.4GHz-only device recently, and the tech support person told me I had to have sepoarate names. They did not accept that if it's a 2.4GHz-only device, whatever is happening on the 5GHz band is irrelevant.
umbral phoenix
lol
blissful roost
😛
umbral phoenix
I did a Turing test. It was a human.
blissful roost
haha
lusty fossil
<@&327289013561982976> just got a random server invite from a user on this channel. Do you need more info? Idk if it's spam or not, don't want to click the link
I've never seen them active in the few months I've been here
fair summit
Please DM me with the invite
lusty fossil
sure thing
fair summit
Another thing to do is to open a private thread in #help-with-community , though I am not sure you can do that (moderators can)
proven olive
I should have posted this there right? I always forget that channel
You can post it there, DM us, post it here, we're not too picky.
@fair summit As far as I know we have to open the private threads in #help-with-community, however, we can edit public threads to be private threads
lusty fossil
thanks everyone, looks like the user's account may have been hijacked </drama>
proven olive
Yeah, that's sadly happening moderately frequently.
Well, to be reasonable, it's probably just as frequent as it has in the past but there's something like 30,000 members here, so even a fraction of a percent adds up.
We appreciate being made aware of these sorts of things, though, since it helps us keep everyone else safe. And if someone's account is compromised and they get it back, we'll be able to deal with that, too
weary fiber
Just made this— the gaps are for clearance with things mounted above
There’s some stuff to be added in a bit, but is just a potentiometer-controlled stepper driver w/led display for rotating a display model engine
wooden schooner
Neat in both senses of the word!
weary fiber
Neat in both senses of the word!
Thanks! I like to have a bit of fun when making my protoboards— just keeping my hands busy while I’m home sick
wooden schooner
Hope you get better soon
quartz wren
Yay power outage!
Probably gonna be an over nighter one too
Especially with all the flooding
Pray for me that mother nature may take mercy and let me make it to my friend's wedding
real falcon
here its heavy winds
quartz wren
We have both
But the winds have subsided a bit
I've got a bus to the airport booked for tomorrow morning and my boarding passes ready, so far no notice of cancelation for either
But the freeway apparently has debris blocking it so my schedule is going to be a bit tighter
Because alternate routes are going to take longer
lusty fossil
looks side to side in California
quartz wren
Downtown is flooded here...
Saw some pretty surreal pictures of rivers that used to be roads
crystal ore
*looks side to side in California*
Just wait for the earthquake... 😅
quartz wren
half of California falls off
lusty fossil
other half burns down
quartz wren
Yeah....and the other half will end up just straight up evaporating
Yes, California has 3 halves, it's basically 1.5 states
lusty fossil
In population, compared to many rural states, you're not far off
weary fiber
Any suggestions for cold/flu remedies?
I’m vaccinated & tested negative for covid (as well as the person who gave it to me) but I still feel run over by a train lmao
lusty fossil
Dayquil and that decongestant stuff that you have to show ID for
Take them in the AM, use nyquil at night
Also just time unfortunately
tardy badger
Different note: there are these videos of kitten noises on Instagram and TikTok and peoples cats come running to the noise
My cat is snoring in another room without a care in the world
tardy badger
My dog also just glares at me for the squeaky toy videos
Like “why are you like this”
I have lazy animals
My cat refuses to chase a laser pointer
lusty fossil
Unrelated but cute
tardy badger
Lol
lusty fossil
Anyone use dog walking through Rover or similar apps?
tardy badger
lusty fossil
Cuuuutie
lusty fossil
Ickle wickle baby
quartz wren
My cat refuses to chase a laser pointer
My cat compulsively chases them but the more you make her do it the more upset she is with you afterwards
lusty fossil
Yeah I've heard the laser pointers aren't good for them because they never get to complete the hunt behavior since they never catch anything
That's not based on an animal science background though
wooden schooner
Yeah I've heard the laser pointers aren't good for them because they never get t...
good to know!! (even as a hypothesis)
lusty fossil
I think it's frustrating for them
lusty fossil
I wonder if the splash of lights is enough for them to feel like the caught it
wooden schooner
seems not much worse than being at a window when there's a fly on the other side
grim sequoia
jovial path
@late fulcrum Did you saw Space X launch rencently?
dusty citrus
velvet pelican
Who here knows their processing chips well? I am looking to build a new desktop and was wanting to build something fairly robust to last a long time
stark oasis
I made a totally spur of the moment video skit last night featuring 4 characters: Gragu (sp?), The Tele Twins, Jibo, and THE LED Monster.
lusty fossil
anyone know if the correct abbreviation of "santa" (as in female saint in spanish) is "st" or "sta"?
weary fiber
Who here knows their processing chips well? I am looking to build a new desktop ...
I watch cpu reviews for fun lmao
hasty quarry
Can you guys help me please
I haven't seen a question like this before, and I'm completely stumped
It's not enough information
lusty fossil
is this homework?
hasty quarry
Yes it is, but for a physics class that's ahead of mine by a bit
A friend is asking me, and I've been pondering it for several minutes
lusty fossil
ok cool, idk what the rules about homework help are, don't want to get on the wrong side of academic dishonesty rules
hasty quarry
It's help
lusty fossil
ok
lusty fossil
no worries, just wanted to be careful
hasty quarry
So far, I have it understood that if we're talking maximums, he threw it at 45 degrees, unknown vector magnitude
But since it's 45, the sine and cosine are equal, thus, the vertical and horizontal velocities are the same
But that's all I have...a proportion
Nothing to apply to the proportion
lusty fossil
hmm i don't think you can assume 45 degrees. How familiar are you with the constant acceleration kinematic equations
wooden schooner
they seem to be assuming the extremely false thing that the grass-ball interface is frictionless
lusty fossil
they are counting touching grass as the end of motion, which is reasonable
hasty quarry
Oh, yeah, we're doing basic basics here, and ignoring a lot of things
wooden schooner
oh ok. Was gonna say, a rolling baseball on grass is very frictionful
hasty quarry
hmm i don't think you can assume 45 degrees. How familiar are you with the const...
Very, it's what we've been doing
I have the 3 memorized
wooden schooner
yeah, @lusty fossil I think what Noe is saying above is that the thrower is using the optimal angle, which they know in this situation to be 45 degrees
lusty fossil
hm
I guess if that's a common assumption used in the textbook, then that's fine, but it's not what I would assume
hasty quarry
So then the sine and cosine is the same, but that doesn't help since it's just a proportion
It only tells me that the vertical and horizontal speeds are the same
wooden schooner
I guess if that's a common assumption used in the textbook, then that's fine, bu...
well, under the assumptions above, you can compute the optimal angle
and unless I'm misremembering a calculation I did a bunch of times in high school, it is indeed 45 degrees
wooden schooner
It only tells me that the vertical and horizontal speeds are the same
I think the parenthetical means that the initial speed of the ball will be the same no matter what direction this person throws it
so, using the fact that its horizontal distance is such-and-such when he throws it at 45 degrees, you can deduce what that muscle speed is
lusty fossil
so, using the fact that its horizontal distance is such-and-such when he throws ...
this. yeah, that's how I'd do it
hasty quarry
I understand that
But that's where I'm stuck for some reason
I get that there's a connection there, but I'm having a brain fart
waxen wasp
Have you covered conservation of energy? If you can calculate how much energy the ball had the moment it's released, you can find how how high it climbs before acceleration due to gravity brings it back down.
The ball is released with so much force and has so much energy at it's starting point. From the question, you know that when the ball is thrown at 45 degrees, it goes 129 m in the time that it takes the ball's y component to reach it's maximum height and fall back down (looking only at the y component, the ball moves up then back down. That takes so much time, t. In that time, the x component is able to go 129 m. You also know that the initial velocity of the ball is the same in both the x and y direction--thanks to throwing the ball at 45 degrees)
hasty quarry
I was thinking something along those lines was the connection I had to make
I did already think of that relationship between amounts of time
waxen wasp
Nice! That means you're really close!
hasty quarry
I don't know where to go from there
waxen wasp
That's ok. Let's write out equations for everything we know
Sometimes it helps to see everything written out, then you can notice that two equations use the same variable
velvet pelican
I watch cpu reviews for fun lmao
Ok so what is your preferred processor and why
waxen wasp
Ok cool, (I think I need to grab my old physics book for this)
Do you have an equation for kinetic energy?
hasty quarry
I don't think it's relevant here, since we haven't gone over it
We're ignoring a lot of technicalities
waxen wasp
Ah, I might be letting you look behind the curtain. Later on every equation gets easier to solve if you have the equations for potential and kinetic energy. But let's take a look at the other equations you have
Do you have the ability to break the movements of the baseball into it's x and y components?
hasty quarry
I'm assuming it's a 45 degree angle
So the proportions between the throwing speed and the components is sqrt(2)/2 for each
But that proportion alone is not helpful
At least I can't see it
waxen wasp
Can you write out that full equation (the phrasing is throwing me off a bit)
hasty quarry
The sine and cosine of 45 degrees
Because the thing is, we're trying to solve for what the velocity he threw it at is
hasty quarry
Well, yes
But I don't see how it can help here since we don't have the hypotenuse, so we can't get the component velocities
waxen wasp
That's ok--when we can't see what to do next, I find it easiest to write everything out, even if it's not useful
focusing on the x components only
does the velocity of the ball (for the x component) change or is it a constant?
hasty quarry
We're treating it like a constant
waxen wasp
good! It is a constant. So let's write that equation out
Vx = V_initial_x
The velocity of x is equal to the initial velocity of x
what about the equation for how far the baseball goes in the x component?
hasty quarry
Vx initial times time is 129
waxen wasp
bingo! I'm going to add in X_inital as well, but it's 0 so it's not a big deal
x = x_initial + V_initial_x * t
the distance x is equal to the initial starting point plus the (initial velocity multiplied by time it was in the air)
And I think that covers about everything we know of in the x dimension.
Well, actually there's one more part--how far in the x dimension is the ball going to travel when we throw it straight up in the air?
hasty quarry
0
waxen wasp
Yup! We'll pocket that for the moment, it feels trivial but it does help later on for sanity checks
Ok onto the y dimension!
What is the velocity of the y dimension throughout the whole throw?
waxen wasp
Yup, so we'll need an equation to solve for it
and that's the equation!
Vy = V_initial_y - g*t
The velocity in the y dimension is equal to the inital velocity of the y minus (gravity multipled by time)
What about the position of the baseball in the y dimension?
hasty quarry
Py = V_initial_y * t - 1/2(-9.8)t^2
waxen wasp
perfect!
Ok that's most of the equations, we have just a few left to describe projectile motion which you've already started highlighting.
Let's solve for the initial velocity, knowing it's two components, V_initial_x and V_initial_y make it up
Do you have an equation that does that?
hasty quarry
V_initial = sqrt(V_initial_x^2 + V_initial_y^2)
waxen wasp
perfect, (Nice little right triangle there)
hasty quarry
Shouldn't we note that V_initial_x and V_initial_y are equal to each other
waxen wasp
exactly!
that's it's own small equation
Now if we're throwing the ball straight up, it's initial y velocity will be equal to the overall velocity, since the x component has a magnitude of 0
hasty quarry
What’s this implying we do next
waxen wasp
We might have seen this equation already, how high will the ball go when we through it straight up?
(I'm just looking for the equation for it, not the number)
hasty quarry
Are you saying to see what V initial Y becomes were the initial X 0, since that’s the only case in which it’s a straight up vertical throw
waxen wasp
Yes, more or less.
Put differently,
We are throwing the ball with the same initial velocity no matter what direction we throw it. If we throw the ball as far as we can, we throw it at a 45 degree angle. When that's the case, the x and the y components are the same.
When we throw it straight up, the initial velocity is the same as the velocity_y component, since none of the throw is going into the x dimension
does that make sense?
(I can be bad at phrasing things, let me know if I've accidentally confused you)
hasty quarry
It makes sense
waxen wasp
Ok cool. So we have a TON of equations right now, let's think about the question again
We want to see how high we can throw the ball right?
Let's just grab that equation
hasty quarry
0 = V_initial_y^2 + 2(-9.8)(p)
Solving for p will give the position after the acceleration has made the y velocity 0
(This would be the highest point)
(This would be the highest point)
waxen wasp
Where did that equation come from? I think it's correct, I just was expecting to slowly get to that point
hasty quarry
It’s just one of the equations we’re given actually
V_final^2 = V_initial^2 + 2g(Position_final - Position_initial)
waxen wasp
Oh neat, that saves you a lot of work. Ok So bear with me as this jumps a lot of steps I was expecting to cover
So in that equation, if we can supply it with an initial velocity, we can find the position p
hasty quarry
Yes
waxen wasp
So looking back to our mess of equations, how do we get the initial velocity if we throw the ball straight up?
silver shale
I use 1Password to manage all my passwords, and they have one built in. They do ...
A while ago I thought about making a device that acts as a HID keyboard to store and enter passwords. Then no passwords are stored on another third party server.
waxen wasp
yup! Which, looking back, we made note that when v_initial_x = 0, v_initial_y is equal to the initial velocity when we were throwing the ball at 45 degrees
hasty quarry
Yes
waxen wasp
So at 45 degrees, we want V_initial = sqrt(V_initial_x^2 + V_initial_y^2)
where v_initial_x == v_initial_y
So if we can find v_initial_x we should be able to get the v_initial we're looking for right?
hasty quarry
Yes
waxen wasp
So how can we solve for that?
hasty quarry
I feel like V_initial_x*t = 129 would help
It would give a solution in terms of the time as 129/t
waxen wasp
Let's do something before we get there
Because the initial velocities are equal, lets change all references to v_initial_x and v_initial_y for the 45 degree throw only
let's call them all a--just a temporary variable, but it'll be easier to see when we can stack equations together and cancel things out
x = x_initial + at
Vy = a - gt
y = y_initial + at - 1/2gt^2
We can set the y position to 0 to see how long the ball was in the air in terms of the initial velocity
hasty quarry
Hmmmm
waxen wasp
I think you've got an equation for that as well in terms of things thrown at 45 degrees which lets you skip a few steps too
hasty quarry
What would it be
waxen wasp
Give me a minute--working equations out on discord isn't something I'm use to. I'm redoing this all in a second doc so I have it all organized
lusty fossil
discord needs LaTeX
waxen wasp
it's the cos and sin equations by the way that you'll need here
hasty quarry
Ah
I don't know where to go next really. It does seem like we have some compiled information here though
waxen wasp
Partner just walked in, I'll be a bit slower to reply but I'm trying to organize the equations
Your projectile motion at an angle equations--you've got the ones that look like: x = v_initial*cos(angle_initial)*t
right?
hasty quarry
Ah yes
waxen wasp
cool, they're the secret to this point
I'll be aft for like 5 minutes then I'll get back to working through this with you
(As a heads up, one of your next units is going to be on kinetic and potential energy. The energy equations make this so much easier)
hasty quarry
Ah alright
wooden schooner
(As a heads up, one of your next units is going to be on kinetic and potential e...
doncha love it when an exercise from unit N is "do this thing by brute force now, and we'll learn the stuff that makes it easier in unit N+1"
gotta leave easter eggs for those eager beaver students who like the textbook so much they read it a second time
there is actually some logic to that. By contrast, one of the pet peeves I remember most tangibly from high school (because it ended up having some loose parallels in the workforce...) is those "finding c" problems on the AP calculus exam. They say "Here's a function f. (i) compute the slope of the secant line between x=a and x=b. (ii) find a value of c, with a < c < b, such that f'(c) equals the slope of that secant line."
there seemed to always be one of those on the AP exam
and it's pretty much the opposite of pedagogy. It expressly does not check for understanding of the mean value theorem
@stoic mesa curious whether you have also noticed this or have thoughts/commiserations on the above 🙂
lusty fossil
In case anyone was curious what I was looking at when I made my username
Recommend these for people who want the crunch but are allergic to almonds
wooden schooner
Oh thank goodness it wasn't those Nature Valley bars
I have a mini vendetta against them but didn't want to get on your bad side
lusty fossil
My bad side isn't that bad, I wouldn't worry too much
wooden schooner
All right then, I won't dilute the severity of the situation:
One time, I ate too many granola bars. Now I dislike Nature Valley bars.
The end
silver shale
that happens
wooden schooner
P.S. They have a flavor called Oats and Honey
lusty fossil
I'm allergic to nature valley bars so I've never paid attention. Good to know I have 2 namesakes
wooden schooner
What ingredient?
lusty fossil
Probably milk? Idk it's been a long time since I checked out their offerings. But last time I checked I could eat none of them and just wrote them off
My ER copay is nothing to sneeze at so I don't take a lot of risks
wooden schooner
As if health was not important enough
Plenty of reason to steer clear. Plus, since they're bad, you're not missing anything
lusty fossil
Lolol
tardy badger
lusty fossil
Just a heads up, strict paywall there, for me on mobile at least
Is it the story of how nato got their hands on a mig?
tardy badger
Yeah
lusty fossil
Defection of a NK soldier right? I heard he got millions but didn't even know about the reward
tardy badger
I read it on apple news but wanted to share the story link
lusty fossil
No worries
tardy badger
Actually Russian frustrated over Soviet failings
lusty fossil
Ahhh ok, there was a time a NK pilot defected with a new mig and was able to claim the reward despite not knowing about it
tardy badger
Interesting
lusty fossil
He would have needed it because he might have had a hard time adjusting and getting a job.
tardy badger
Basically the MiG25 was fabled in US air defense as being some valiant fighter
The US basically saw it as a difficult rivalry and didn’t realize it was a carefully fabricated ploy
Soviets did good making the US think they had a very high end plane
It was still using tubes instead of semiconductors! Lol
But the tubes meant it’s radar beacon was almost unjammable
lusty fossil
Interestinf
tardy badger
Anyway, off to bed with my head! Perhaps someone shares the article outside of a paywall
waxen wasp
Ah alright
Sorry about that, took longer than I expected to get back to the computer.
One of the things you'll want to note is that in the equations for the thrown ball, you know how far the ball went, you know the distance in x is tied to the initial velocity in the x dimension, and that it is the same as the initial velocity in the y direction. You also know the height of the ball is 0 after it has traveled 129 m, so you can setup an equation to solve for the time it takes for the thrown ball to reach a height of 0 knowing it's x distance is 129m, and acceleration due to gravity is -9.8m/s^2
waxen wasp
Your projectile motion at an angle equations--you've got the ones that look like...
x = V_initial* cos(angle_initial)* t
y = V_initial * sin(angle_initial) * t - 1/2*g*t^2
v_x = V_initial * cos(angle_initial)
v_y = v_initial * sin(angle_initial) - g*t
These are the equations I think you have already, they'll be what you need for this step
stoic mesa
when regular screws are not enough
https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/252882043_10159428203310619_7123174509417565522_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=ca434c&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=zWl6NQV5hhMAX9yCHcy&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=8ae3efca15920538eaed4a83e1b3e29f&oe=61996AE5
tardy badger
Hahaha
burnt tendon
Well, that's nutty
lusty fossil
I had the smart idea of washing off with water the plastic debris caused by dremeling panel holes in my enclosure. The whole thing is meant to be water proof so now I have to find every last bit of moisture
tardy badger
I love it when a majority of my day is pinging back and forth with smarter people than me trying to figure out an issue way over my head lol..
stray wind
I had the smart idea of washing off with water the plastic debris caused by drem...
Silica and ziplocs are your friend.
lusty fossil
Yeah I'm gonna get some packets for these
blissful roost
Hummm
wary herald
I love it when a majority of my day is pinging back and forth with smarter peopl...
Same
BTW, discord light mode is the worst light mode I've ever tested
It's murder
thick wind
I love it when a majority of my day is pinging back and forth with smarter peopl...
Over your head? What the heck kinda issue is that?
wary herald
Over **your** head? What the heck kinda issue is that?
haha
Discord compact mode's not bad tho
wary herald
when regular screws are not enough
https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30...
The what
haha
blissful roost
Wut?!?
Light mode is the only way to use Discord.
wary herald
The words are all blurry, and the light is way too light
It might just be my bad display
wary herald
Not me
blissful roost
Lol
thick wind
Hey now, he's entitled to his opinion as much as we are ours.
wary herald
Yes
thick wind
Let's not start wars over palette preferences.
blissful roost
That wasn't an opinion, so much as a bit of a joke.
wary herald
hehe
thick wind
Switching from dark to light is considerably harder than the other way around, from my experience.
tardy badger
Over **your** head? What the heck kinda issue is that?
Ya know, ones that make no sense because you only just started working with the system a few months ago with little documentation
thick wind
Oh, system specifics. That's a lot less interesting than I had initially hoped...
lusty fossil
Sigh, audible pushed an update that breaks the player. Fun
tardy badger
Oh, system specifics. That's a lot less interesting than I had initially hoped.....
Well, if I worked with stuff that was more general to what people encountered every day, I could probably say more specifically
thick wind
Nah I got it dw
Reminds me of my first couple weeks at my current job, coming for an empty EE position and minimal documentation on a semi-finished set of boards and being told to fix it...
thick wind
I can only say it was fun because I somehow managed to fix most of the issues. The ones that are left are either consequences of more recent design changes, or too elusive for me to consistently reproduce...
tardy badger
Hardware certainly is more exciting to me than pure software
Which is basically my day job
thick wind
Fair, but now I'm stuck catching up on documentation work since my hardware is stable for the most part.
tardy badger
Makes sense
thick wind
Ever try to reverse engineer someone else's Arduino protoshield when it's just a huge clump of thin blue wires? Not I, until very recently at least.
tardy badger
Did you figure it out?
thick wind
No, but it's getting there. It helps to have source code so I can trace pinout by pin definitions.
tardy badger
Oh nice, that is helpful for sure
lusty fossil
If anyone is having an issue with audible randomly stopping playback, force stopping the app fixed it
tardy badger
I’ve wanted to reverse engineer hardware but just haven’t taken the time to find something to reverse engineer lol
quartz wren
I’ve wanted to reverse engineer hardware but just haven’t taken the time to find...
The best first reversing projects are retro computer systems if you're trying to find something that's a challenge but not impossibly frustrating
Like, one or two layer boards
weary fiber
https://tenor.com/view/data-debug-hex-hexadecimal-program-gif-22378181
linux users installing a browser be like:
hasty quarry
If a company fires you, is it typical for them to never want to associate with you again, or is it also likely for you to be hired again if you try?
lusty fossil
it really depends on the circumstances
hasty quarry
What tends to happen most often
lusty fossil
Fired for cause? Not the most likely thing. Laid off? more likely
I don't have data about "most often", just using my own impressions.
hasty quarry
I’m 17 and I had a job but then covid did its thing
lusty fossil
but say you get fired by an incompetent supervisor. If they later get fired for cause, you might have a better chance
hasty quarry
I was teaching elementary kids coding, that was fun
lusty fossil
that's nice! If you were just laid off for covid reasons, I really wouldn't hesitate to apply again.
hasty quarry
I asked the boss actually, I didn’t speak to them for months, and it seems there was a misunderstanding where she thought I was quitting, and that on top of the commotion and lack of communication between us, I’m not an employee anymore
It’s a mixture of fired and laid off. It feels like something between them
lusty fossil
worst thing that can happen is rejection. That hurts, but it's something you get used to.
This job could be great for building your network. I spent over a year applying fruitlessly to jobs, often getting through several interviews before being rejected. Then my network got me my current job. Network is key
hasty quarry
Oh that’s nice
lusty fossil
got my current job with one interview. If you go to college, use every opportunity you get to build your network. An old professor of mine reached out to me about this job
hasty quarry
First paycheck got me about 400 dollars with 10 an hour. To be honest, I don’t need the money right now and I don’t think I’d be able to balance a job well
stray wind
I asked the boss actually, I didn’t speak to them for months, and it seems there...
Like Oats said, worst thing that can happen is they say no. It might be worth contacting them, explaining the situation perhaps, that you felt like it was a misunderstanding, put it all on the table, acknowledging it, and see what happens.
stray wind
First paycheck got me about 400 dollars with 10 an hour. To be honest, I don’t n...
Then in that case, you should probably heed your own mind and hold off.
hasty quarry
The conversation carried to me clearing the misunderstanding (despite the damage being done, at least she understood)
stray wind
You know best what you can handle, and getting back into a job where there was already a misunderstanding like that, and then not being able to handle it, and having to bail on it would not be a good look.
That's a good start.
lusty fossil
teaching coding to children should pay better than that in my opinion, but I don't know enough specifics to say why they paid so little
hasty quarry
And she said they were currently looking at the time, but I respectfully rejected
If I can manage it, I will talk to them again
lusty fossil
probably because you're young and hungry and they can take advantage of that
hasty quarry
teaching coding to children should pay better than that in my opinion, but I don...
Because it was so formulaic
lusty fossil
still, it's a valuable skill.
hasty quarry
“Take this paper and teach them this, okay”
I would rather be teaching slightly older kids Java or something
wary herald
linux users installing a browser be like:
Yup
lusty fossil
still, teaching is a criminally undervalued skill. It's really hard
hasty quarry
Would LOVE that job
stray wind
And she said they **were** currently looking at the time, but I respectfully rej...
This is a very mature way to handle it.
lusty fossil
it's rarely good to burn a bridge.
I have burned one, but the guy I was working for was a creep in the #metoo sense. Didn't want anything to do with him any more
hasty quarry
Eek…
stray wind
it's rarely good to burn a bridge.
Even the worst job I've ever had, and when I say worst, I mean it gave me PTSD, even that job, I did not burn that bridge. I wouldn't touch that place again if my life depended on it. But, still, I guess.
stray wind
I have burned one, but the guy I was working for was a creep in the #metoo sense...
That's fair.
hasty quarry
still, teaching is a criminally undervalued skill. It's really hard
I don’t like children either. I was as patient as I could be with them, but uhhh…they were rowdy. And I’m the quiet and well spoken type, so no person to control them well
At least they respected me
lusty fossil
That's fair.
yeah he was generally really unprofessional too. Didn't deserve the pleasure of my company is how I see it
hasty quarry
I wonder if I could freelance tutor
stray wind
I wonder if I could freelance tutor
You'd certainly be paid better for that.
Don't undervalue yourself if you end up doing that.
lusty fossil
I wonder if I could freelance tutor
that's my side hustle. Be aware that students are generally inconsistent and inconsiderate of your time. Charge appropriately.
hasty quarry
This friend of mine told me a friend of hers wanted to get into computer science, and she told him about me, and he was very interested. So that got me thinking, what if I made that a thing
lusty fossil
I charge $25 an hour for my services, but I could easily charge 40. I tell myself I'm there for the kids working their way through college.
but in reality I'm giving a discount to folks who's parents are paying for everything. shrug
hasty quarry
It’s hard to know my worth
Thinking about how much I’d charge for something like that anyway
stray wind
Find out what others in your area are charging, and charge at least that much.
lusty fossil
make a simple website too. And don't offer guarantees of grades, there be dragons
hasty quarry
Yeah I’d assume that’s not a good idea
They’re the ones getting their grades, not you
lusty fossil
Some tutoring companies do it. I don't agree with it because there's so much out of your control. I've considered offering HW grade guarantees, but am still hesitant.
wooden schooner
It’s hard to know my worth
Do not conflate monetary worth with personal worth. Maybe goes without saying, but I'm saying it
stray wind
Also valid.
lusty fossil
Do not conflate monetary worth with personal worth. Maybe goes without saying, b...
how can I learn this lol
wooden schooner
I wish I knew 😆
hasty quarry
Do not conflate monetary worth with personal worth. Maybe goes without saying, b...
Hmmmmm
Doesn’t go without saying. It’s hard for me
hasty quarry
It just feels cultural
hasty quarry
I have to think objectively about what I provide, and that’s very difficult
wooden schooner
One does not have to look very far to find the evidence
hasty quarry
I’m scared of the “that’s so expensive, what the heck? I know X person who would do it for half as much”
lusty fossil
then tell them to hire x person
wooden schooner
I have to think objectively about what I provide, and that’s very difficult
My take on that would be: you are embedded in a capitalist economy that will punish you unless you charge relative to market rate. Market rate is not influenced by morality. Try to be a moral person while separately doing what you need to do to survive in the non-ideal economic system.
hasty quarry
Because that has happened to me before, and they blocked me thinking I was scamming them
stray wind
If that happens consistently, then you change up what you're doing. But don't undersell yourself to begin with.
Also what Oats said.
lusty fossil
don't lowball, if many people balk then consider it, but don't start out at a low rate
wooden schooner
If you are not already a confident salesperson with a clear plan to upsell, then lowballing seems not the best first strategy imo
hasty quarry
So I should really test my market with a high price first?
stray wind
You're worth it. You are providing your knowledge and teaching abilities as a service, and you deserve to be paid appropriately. If others are undercutting you, remember that you're probably providing a better service than them.
That's another thing.
Experience and word of mouth.
Once you've found a few folks who hire you, and you do an amazing job teaching them, that gets around.
Goes back to the comment about networking.
wooden schooner
So I should really test my market with a high price first?
You could look up average rates for the same service in your area and base your price entirely on that. No subjective evaluation needed
thick wind
Yeah, freelance tutors go for anywhere from $30 to $60, depending on experience and content. For something like Computer Science, even if you're just a high schooler with AP compsci under your belt, $30 an hour is on the lower end.
wooden schooner
(exaggeration; everything is subjective. But self worth can in theory be taken mostly out of the picture)
(theory ≠ practice, self promotion is hard)
thick wind
It does vary by area and context, but definitely don't undersell yourself to get the business. Friend's discount is one thing, but your time is worth that much.
hasty quarry
Yeah, freelance tutors go for anywhere from $30 to $60, depending on experience ...
Interesting… I’ve been studying by myself for 6 or 7 years and absolutely know what I’m doing
lusty fossil
always keep in mind the prep time you have to do.
I don't charge for prep and it's a bad idea
stoic mesa
Yeah, freelance tutors go for anywhere from $30 to $60, depending on experience ...
make it "up to $100/hr"
thick wind
Yeah, hence why tutoring tends to be anywhere from 2-4 times the hourly rates of other jobs, to compensate for the prep that your hours don't account for.
stray wind
And remember, there's a financial overhead to being a self-employed independent contractor. You'll be paying all the taxes, versus being an employee where your employer pays half. So take that into account when looking at the overall money you're making, it's not quite as much as it seems on its face.
lusty fossil
And remember, there's a financial overhead to being a self-employed independent ...
yup, taxes are a big thing
and the IRS is a real threat if you don't do the taxes right
stray wind
I ended up hiring someone because I was afraid of that.
And then COVID happened, and I haven't had it in me to learn how to do it. So I'm still paying someone.
Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely doable yourself. Plenty of folks do it, there's software to help, etc.
I haven't had the spoons for that.
stoic mesa
But talking about prices, when I did tutoring, I would sometimes do it for free, but I wouldn't do it for cheap. Either free or market price, but not half-price.
lusty fossil
I also worked at a tutoring center for the core engineering classes at my university. It gave me enough confidence to go out on my own
hasty quarry
But I really don’t have any fear in teaching someone if I can sit down and plan it a bit
I already help others often in my computer science class at school. And I’d imagine my clientele is of my classmates’ sort, so I really do have clean slates…which is a bit relieving
I love seeing the light in their eyes when I make something click to them
stray wind
It is a great feeling.
lusty fossil
I love seeing the light in their eyes when I make something click to them
that's why I do it.
thick wind
If you want to start out, I'd say get a feel for it by setting up a Fiverr or something and give it a shot. People tend to undersell themselves on Fiverr, since most of your competition is probably fresh college grads with a similar lack of sense in self-value. It does take some work to tutor someone regularly, but for supplementary assistance with assignments, you can start a bit lower than you would a standard tutoring rate. From there, you can gauge your ability and adjust your rates.
If you're not writing your own curriculum, you'll probably have a much easier time of it all.
wooden schooner
make it "up to $100/hr"
I think I've seen $120. Elite SAT prep is a frighteningly self-perpetuating cycle of human misery and irrational cash transfer
thick wind
Oh boy, let's not talk about that.
I want to say it's a waste of money, but the value it brings to each person is VERY different.
Sadly, no amount of Princeton Review ever increased my scores...
lusty fossil
I went to HS with a guy who got a perfect score. They made him take it again and he got a perfect score again. Absolute legend
wooden schooner
that is kind of priceless (though I bet there may have been an associated price tag). How did they "make" him do that?
lusty fossil
idk, that's just what I heard. maybe they said they would consider it cheating if he didn't try again. I think he's an MD/PhD now
he was also an expert violinist and incredibly kind guy. I hope he's gone far
wooden schooner
in college I enjoyed tutoring for the school's math clinic thing. Most of the students who came in were really engaged -- otherwise they wouldn't come to the clinic. I one had a student give me lip, including the phrase "you're gonna help me with this problem." Guess whether I helped them with this problem
I was basically allergic to staying on topic to a specific homework problem. Approximately half the students loved this and learned a lot
then later in school I TA'ed a class and really enjoyed the teaching aspect. I think a key piece was that it was a non-required class. So there were pretty much no grudging students, they all wanted to take the class. Big difference I bet
I even made handouts occasionally, which for that class was unusual
thick wind
Dude, I swear my dorm room felt like the Matlab clinic at times. A good number of my friends would gather in my dorm to ask for help with their assignments an hour or two before they were due.
I mean they weren't dumb, just slackers hehe
wooden schooner
at the end of that class, the prof said, "if you ever want a raving job rec letter, you know who to call"
wooden schooner
I mean they weren't dumb, just slackers hehe
I have worked with several prominent academics who do everything a few minutes past the last minute
drives me nuts
thick wind
I wish I took up paid tutoring while in school. Somehow I got my now-wife from switching to CS halfway through her sophomore year, to graduating on time with a better paying job than me...
wooden schooner
at the end of that class, the prof said, "if you ever want a raving job rec lett...
@hasty quarry this kind of thing has economic (and personal) value too btw. Not all value is money
thick wind
Meanwhile, my GPA is so low I actually have to consider the GRE as a working professional...
But all money has value kek
wooden schooner
Meanwhile, my GPA is so low I actually have to consider the GRE as a working pro...
meaning your clients ask to see your transcript?...
thick wind
Oh, no, for higher education
lusty fossil
yeah, some unis let you in to the grade program with just a GPA
thick wind
I'm working on applying for MSE or something like that
wooden schooner
oh, I didn't realize places would sometimes not ask for the GRE. I thought it was always at least a formal requirement
lusty fossil
or at least the GRE is a formality
wooden schooner
oh - yeah I was only talking about PhD programs, I don't know much about the huge variety of master's / professional degrees
thick wind
Used to be, but with more online programs, the GRE requirement isn't as strict if you have the background and GPA.
wooden schooner
cool
thick wind
Sadly, despite my background, my GPA is somewhere in the bottom of a giant dumpster.
wooden schooner
But all money has value kek
kek is some kind of corruption of lol, right? Is it derived through "lel" or something?
thick wind
Something like that? Not sure the history but I assume that's the case
lusty fossil
yeah. I don't use it personally because some people I really don't like use it, but it doesn't offend me
@thick wind is not included in those people I don't like lol
wooden schooner
googles oh yep never gonna use that one
thick wind
Oh, is it bad? Maybe I should stop...
wooden schooner
an unknowing user of the term is fine. Once origin is known, different story imo. Probably won't get offended since there's typically enough context to distinguish, but I certainly will not be using it
thick wind
Yikes. That doesn't sound good.
wooden schooner
(to reiterate: np)
lusty fossil
yeah, getting into why the I dislike that group of people is politics and verboten but safe to say you probably don't want to get mixed up with them
wary herald
*googles* oh yep never gonna use that one
random vault
If anyone is interested, I stream some of my CAD design work on twitch, discussing CAD, 3d printing, and everything in between. And usually some some off topic stuff.
Stream starting at 630 as usual! Tonight I'm reverse engineering a paintball pistol grip into a model that i can modify for a new caliber of paint (50 cal FSR instead of 43 cal roundball).
I'll be discussing CAD workflow as we go.
twitch.tv/ratzkie
umbral phoenix
I don't like it when regular words get co-opted
blissful roost
What about irregular verbs?
umbral phoenix
those too 😉
blissful roost
😄
lusty fossil
I don't like it when regular words get co-opted
indeed, bad faith actors abound unfortunately.
lusty fossil
would folks expect UPS ground from one place in CA to another place in CA to be relatively quick? Or does that not factor into it? I really don't want to pay 40 dollars for shipping
stray wind
would folks expect UPS ground from one place in CA to another place in CA to be ...
Sometimes they leave stuff sitting around that isn't upgraded shipping even when it could have been shipped faster.
stray wind
So... no guarantees.
lusty fossil
well, I guess I'm paying for 3 day shipping then. Oh well.
I'm gonna have a burrito to quiet the frustration
stray wind
Valid choice.
lusty fossil
salt and fat are great mood boosters
salt, fat, acid, heat
hmmm, they have a USPS option that's 1-3 days for only 8.99. Does anyone know what Sm Flat Rate 1-3 Day would mean? Like is that gonna be the thing where packages under n oz will ship OK?
wooden schooner
I think flat rate means anything that fits in that box. At the post office they have USPS branded flat rate boxes and envelopes of different sizes
I think the cost is constant up to a max size, regardless of weight
lusty fossil
Oh the regardless of weight thing is good to know
I've got some osmium I need to mail to someone, for reasons
wooden schooner
There are still restrictions on hazardous substances of course. And also I am very much not certain of this, I'm sure you can look up the different flat rate boxes on the USPS site
Also I've never done an "I'm gonna mail this small but heavy thing." Basically, caveat please consult a more expert resource too 🙂
late fulcrum
Osmium is a platinum-group element, I don't think it's considered hazardous. I'd love it if someone mailed me some.
lusty fossil
What would you do with it?
Heaviest paper weight on earth, by volume, would be my go to
crystal ore
I have a matched set of one-inch cubes of magnesium-lithium alloy (super light) and tungsten (super heavy). Very amusing to play with. The tungsten is dense enough to feel like it's magnetically attracted to the table when you go to pick it up, since it's unintuitive to encounter a material like it.
lusty fossil
Neat
late fulcrum
I have magnesium and tungsten ones, the magnesium one feels like it's hollow or something (it isn't). A lithium cube would be cool, but possibly problematic, so the alloy is likely a better idea.
real falcon
i always wanted to have a copy of movie gold bar, but made in tungsten
pretty close in density
late fulcrum
I do have a little 5g bead of osmium, which is very small.
real falcon
mad you should get exact same shape for titanium and tungsein
ti feels like cheap plastic thing compared to tungsein lol
lusty fossil
i always wanted to have a copy of movie gold bar, but made in tungsten
I can't recall if it was real or a conspiracy theory but there's an idea that an appreciable number of the gold bricks in ft Knox have been replaced in this manner
real falcon
i do, its in form of 1/2 inch rod, inch long, for those
crystal ore
i always wanted to have a copy of movie gold bar, but made in tungsten
You can get some nice-looking fake gold bars on AliExpress. They're not tungsten, though. Let me know if you find a good source for that, as I'd like one too...
real falcon
oats would be funny but odd idea. hard to prove that
though i want the movie cliche one
crystal ore
Hmmm, says it's a zinc alloy. The "tungsten" might just be keyword spam.
real falcon
oh too bad
wanton shore
OK. So I have to chime in on the whole "kek" thing. I used to play WoW back in the day, and that's what the orcs said (if you were alliance) when they typed LOL. It's Turkish, and is basically an abbreviation of "hehe" to like "heh." Then I guess some tiki torch carrying lint lickers decided to flood the internet with dumb pepe the frog crap. So, well. I guess it used to be OK, but now, maybe it's a gang sign.
CORRECTION: It's Korean, not Turkish.
lusty fossil
I'd forgotten it came specifically from WoW. Thanks for the clarification
wanton shore
it's Korean, sorry, I'm a bit slow.
but yeah, that's where it became a thing... and now it's another thing, so yeah, probably best to just stick with lol
lusty fossil
Lol has been good enough for me for a long time, I suspect it will be for a time longer.
wanton shore
ROTFLMAO
lusty fossil
Heh
wanton shore
No, you're old.
lusty fossil
I am
umbral phoenix
I'm looking forward to the W5100S-EVB-Pico... CircuitPython with Ethernet for <$10. Now we just need TLS.
wanton shore
I am old too.
umbral phoenix
HTTPS
lusty fossil
Ah
wanton shore
that thing is sweet
umbral phoenix
there's a PR right now to support this variety of ethernet chip in the ethernet library
wanton shore
nice
lusty fossil
Very cool.
wanton shore
W5100S is the chip?
umbral phoenix
yeah
well, it's the ethernet chip
otherwise the board is a Raspberry Pi Pico clone
umbral phoenix
WIZnet has some on their site, I suspect it's one of the ones they souyrce
wanton shore
kk
lusty fossil
Is the rp2040 powerful enough to do internet things with CP?
wanton shore
what does CP mean in this context?
lusty fossil
Circuitpython
wanton shore
oooh yeah
lusty fossil
It's the abbreviation around here
umbral phoenix
yeah, I think so, it currently does via Airlift, but the ethernet low level is offloaded to the W5100S, so the CircuitPython library just has to drive that
wanton shore
the rp2040 is def powerful enough
lusty fossil
Ahhh
umbral phoenix
the chip exposes sockets to the library, so the library does setup, grabs sockets, reads, writes, so it's probably not even that demanding in practice
wanton shore
I am un-amused with the crypto miners of the world. They're the reason why I can only buy one RPi W Zero a quarter basically.
umbral phoenix
it's SPI, so in a sense it's like Airlift where the networking is in a co-processor
lusty fossil
I tried googling sockets and didn't understand the wiki on them. What are they?
wanton shore
or a RPi 4 B. Or a graphics card, or anything
umbral phoenix
just a standard way of connecting one device to another to send data
lusty fossil
Are pi chips good for crypto mining? Or are not enough pi chips being made because so many crypto chips are being made instead?
umbral phoenix
it's the underlying thing below UDP (which is used by things like DNS and NTP), and TCP (which is used by things like HTTP)
lusty fossil
just a standard way of connecting one device to another to send data
Gotcha thanks
wanton shore
@lusty fossil sockets are the connections between two interfaces, can be ethernet, can be something as simple as a file socket (a stream shared between two different apps on your computer for instance)
lusty fossil
Ahh ok
wanton shore
sometimes they are long-lived, sometimes they are transient in nature