general-chat

[tardy badger]

I also end up using atmega328p because they are already 5V, and examples work out if the box

I like circuitpython but I don’t have level shifters on hand lol..

[lusty fossil]

I generally support the idea behind using paper straws, but I just wish Bk would save some plastic ones for their frozen drinks

Is the diffusion accomplished with a very thin print layer?

[weary fiber]

That's so cool!!!

[tardy badger]

This and White filament actually doesn’t block all that much light

[lusty fossil]

Ahh ok

Cool! I hope this becomes OS, I have a friend who would love it

[tardy badger]

I’m planning on putting the files up on my blog

[lusty fossil]

Noice

Where can I find the blog?

[tardy badger]

https://oakdev.tech

[lusty fossil]

Ah should have guessed the website

[tardy badger]

Lol

[lusty fossil]

What are "bindings" in this context?
"PyQt is a set of Python bindings for The Qt Company's Qt application framework and runs on all platforms supported by Qt including Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS and Android. PyQt6 supports Qt v6, PyQt5 supports Qt v5 and PyQt4 supports Qt v4. "

[crystal ore]

"Bindings" means an API for a particular language or environment, basically. The hooks so that you can call Qt library functions from a Python app.

[lusty fossil]

Ahh ok cool

[crystal ore]

(That's because Qt itself is probably written in another language.)

[lusty fossil]

That was my next question

Ok, what should I google to learn about how an application can be written in one language but called by another?

[crystal ore]

Well, there is a standard binary interface for libraries on many OSes, so you can call a function in it no matter how it was written, assuming it's been compiled to machine code. Interpreted languages like Python get a little trickier, so they generally need some cross-language support as part of the interpreter. In Python, for example, there's https://docs.python.org/3/library/ctypes.html

You can also go the other direction, accessing Python objects from within C++ code: https://docs.python.org/3/extending/extending.html

[lusty fossil]

Very very cool

Thank you

[lusty fossil]

I wonder if in the future we'll have machine vision radars in our cars to be able to tell how fast someone is going. No more "wow that guy was going fast!" Because it will just show up on your HUD

I think Tesla has something like that

I didn't notice my friend's car telling how fast other cars were going but it did recognize them

[umbral phoenix]

recognize?

like, that they were cars, or more specific?

[lusty fossil]

Yeah cars, people, traffic lights

It was pretty neat

Just saw a video of a 3d printed HDMI-garden hose adapter. They plugged a cable into a laptop and turned on the hose on the other end. Water came leaking out of the keyboard and screen.

[idle iron]

watching stargate shows again but starting with universe, then atlantis, then sg1
my fav peeps are; christopher judge, michael shanks, david hewlett, amanda tapping, jason momoa
ive seen sg1 too many times to start with it

[slim shard]

if I said how I really felt about SGUniverse, eyes would bleed

[idle iron]

you dont like drama?

[slim shard]

I like good scifi

[slim shard]

I think my main issue is that it strung me along too long :-)

[blissful roost]

SGU was utterly dreadful and should have been killed off during the pitch.

[slim shard]

the first few lines of a pitch for it actually sounds pretty awesome to me, but, sadness happened

[quartz wren]

Yeeeeeeahhhh

My lab definitely needs a wire EDM cutter

Probably gonna have to build it but it looks pretty simple

Kind of like the stranger that waves back from the mirror every morning

That is, had to build it myself and looks pretty simple

[stray wind]

This is turning out amazing! Well done! What's it running?

[tardy badger]

Just the Adafruit neopixel Arduino code. Modified with some checks for btn presses to get out of looped animation

I’m going to iterate on it and design a custom PCB for it with level shifting to do circuitpython

[stray wind]

Neat!

[hasty wedge]

Just curious, does Adafruit manufacture their PCBs in house?

or they're made by third party providers

[tardy badger]

PCBs come from a PCB house

Like PCB Way

[wary herald]

I'm guessing OSHPARK or somewhere

[tardy badger]

The pink PCB they are doing came from PCBWay if I remember right

[wary herald]

IDK

[tardy badger]

They order prototypes from OshPark

[wary herald]

Yes, that one does

[tardy badger]

Some

[stray wind]

OSHPark for proto runs, other houses for full runs.

[wary herald]

I order protos from JLCPCB

[hasty wedge]

me too

I believe PCBWay is just JDBPCB(not JLCPCB)'s oversea division

[wary herald]

Aha

[hasty wedge]

I think i'll try PCBWay next time

[wary herald]

I'll see

[hasty wedge]

I order protos from JDBPCB back in China, they're pretty good

[weary fiber]

literally just included a ":3" in a teams message to my boss, and deleted it at lightspeed

[lusty fossil]

depending on the boss this could not be an issue.

[weary fiber]

Should really have better impulse control on my typing quirks lmao

[lusty fossil]

Mine would just be confused

what does :3 mean?

[weary fiber]

oh, it's a general cutesy emoticon commonly used by furries to add a friendly tone to a message

[wary herald]

🥰

[weary fiber]

I feel like "uwu" would be worse though lol

"just finished those tps reports uwu"

[wary herald]

UwU

[weary fiber]

actually idk, they suggested DnD as a teambuilding activity once, so I think they'd actually be very welcoming to it

[wary herald]

Oh, gee

Why DnD

Why not MtG

hehe

[hasty wedge]

furries~

uwu

(I am not furry btw)

[lusty fossil]

I have a pet theory that many allergies and immune system issues will be fixable when we have a better understanding of, and can manipulate gut flora. I hope I'm right because I'm pretty atopic

[lusty fossil]

I knew uwu, I would definitely avoid sending that to your boss haha, too familiar

[hasty wedge]

[wary herald]

It's better than doge

LOL

[lusty fossil]

I would send doge to bosses I've had in the past, my current one would probably just make sure we have good mental health coverage in our healthcare plan

which we don't of course but that's neither here nor there

[wary herald]

🤣

I love doge memes

someone I knew prounounced meme may-may

[lusty fossil]

I pronounce it may may ironically but I'm trying to stop because irony is too thick in daily discourse these days

[mighty laurel]

Fresh boards about to solder

[wary herald]

hehe

[wary herald]

Yay - good day

I'm getting my in 30 mins

[mighty laurel]

Noice

[hasty wedge]

YM2149!

AY-3-8910

[wary herald]

Say what now

Are you a bot

?

[late fulcrum]

I recognize the UART part number.

[quartz wren]

If I manage to frame in all 3 windows today, I'll be done with pretty much all of the framing on the lab and enough of it to get all the insulation installed

Things are coming along!

Theres doors too!

And during initial use, the walkway between sections will be blocked but once my parents don't need the other side for storage we will be adding a door between

So I can have a bit more storage room

And yes it's a mess but my room is much better hehe

[wary herald]

Yay!!

[spice moss]

spaceX crew-3 launch stream is up

[hasty wedge]

The part number on that PCB

YM2149 is Yamaha's version of AY-3-8910 sound chip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Instrument_AY-3-8910

[late fulcrum]

Oh, I was thinking the AY-5-1013 UART, oops

[wary herald]

Oh. Sorry -

[hasty wedge]

[lusty fossil]

I was promised it would be warm today, who can I go to to complain?

reminds me of a kid I "knew" when I was lucky enough to take a sailing class as a child. One of the other kids was the son of a lawyer and threatened to have his dad sue the instructors for bad weather.

The look on their faces has stayed with me for years

[silver shale]

like many things, nothing can be 100% predicted

[lusty fossil]

except the next COD release being lackluster. that's pretty much guaranteed

[silver shale]

and half life 3

or at least ep 3

[lusty fossil]

we at least got half life alyx. I can't play that though, VR makes me sick

[silver shale]

I do not have anything that can play it

[lusty fossil]

same, but that's b/c the nausea

[vagrant sonnet]

I’m curious why you get sick? Do you know if it’s a frame rate or IPD thing or something?

[lusty fossil]

no idea, but I've tried both the original dev kit version of the occulus and the latest from facebook (a friend owns it) and both made me sick

not like truly ill, but needing to stop

[vagrant sonnet]

Hm, well FWIW those are both… well below state of the art in comfort and accessibility. Cheap though.

I remember the oculus dev kit being a nauseating blur so you’re far from alone there

[lusty fossil]

hmm what would you recommend? Projects are taking a lot of my money right now but I'd consider one in the future, if I can return it if it makes me sick

[vagrant sonnet]

I have a https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/index and can recommend it wholeheartedly.

[quartz wren]

Oh no I might be a bot...somehow I knew this

[lusty fossil]

I need to upgrade my PC first, it's running old chips. But I have to wait for covid related issues to stop bringing up prices

[vagrant sonnet]

120 (or even 144) Hz display, finely adjustable IPD, relatively high FOV, and designed to be in for hours at a time.

[lusty fossil]

what resolution?

[vagrant sonnet]

dual 1440x1600 displays

[quartz wren]

I got super excited again about my 6502 laptop today... Found all the parts and I really can't wait for the lab to be ready so I can lay everything out and still have desk space

[vagrant sonnet]

Compare this to the Quest 2, which is admittedly 1/3 the price and can operate wirelessly, but has lower refresh rates, worse positional tracking, only 3 IPD settings, and seems designed in terms of comfort for 15 minute sessions. I found it immediately uncomfortable.

Plus there’s the whole “hardware from Facebook covered in cameras and microphones” angle on anything from Oculus.

[shadow siren]

I finally got my eeproms I needed for my Apple 1 replica so I get to try things out this weekend

[vagrant sonnet]

FWIW it doesn’t need top-of-the-line to work well. May I ask your machine’s specs?

[shadow siren]

Here is what it looks like

[lusty fossil]

IIRC a ryzen 2700 (? don't hold me to that, I'm at work and can't check) and an Nvidia 760. 36 GB DDR4 RAM It works fine for playing satisfactory with my buddy.

don't hold me to the graphics card either, it's been a while since I installed it

[shadow siren]

ahh sastifactory

[lusty fossil]

such a good game

[shadow siren]

kibitz comes to mind

[lusty fossil]

is that another game or a way of spelling kibbutz?

[shadow siren]

and his nuclear waste issues

no a guy who plays sastifactory

[lusty fossil]

ahh ok

I didn't think most kibbutzes had AI tractors or nuclear power lol

[shadow siren]

look on YouTube for ImKibitz

[vagrant sonnet]

Fair enough. Well RAM won’t be a problem, but yeah, the CPU and GPU sound a bit long in the tooth. They do have a benchmark that’ll give you a better sense than guessing: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1070910/Are_you_ready_for_Valve_Index/ or if you want more detail https://store.steampowered.com/app/323910/SteamVR_Performance_Test/

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[lusty fossil]

yeah I need to upgrade my CPU badly, but that likely requires updating my MOBO and it's whole thing

[vagrant sonnet]

Especially difficult these days even if one does have the money

[lusty fossil]

yeah I don't unfortunately have 2000 dollars laying around

[vagrant sonnet]

Which, with prices going the way they are, one might not

[shadow siren]

you could do a upgrade for about 475 for board+cpu Gigabyte B550 + Ryzen 3600X

that is actually CAD

[vagrant sonnet]

What is it in Fusion360 /s

[shadow siren]

lol CAD = Canadian moola vs USD

[vagrant sonnet]

Yes, I don’t remember which way the ratio cuts ATM though

[shadow siren]

at the moment 1 CAD is about .80 cents USD

[lusty fossil]

I keep meaning to visit canada again

I loved it when I was there last

Really lovely people by and large. Every society has its stinkers in it but Canada is pretty darn nice

[shadow siren]

a Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P is 127 USD and a Ryzen 5600X is 299 USD
on amazon

[lusty fossil]

interesting, maybe I can upgrade sooner than I thought

[shadow siren]

you have the ram already

ddr4

[lusty fossil]

I think so

[shadow siren]

the kicker is the video card that is a utter pain at the moment

[vagrant sonnet]

970 might actually do it

[shadow siren]

but everything else is doable

[vagrant sonnet]

like, you'd have to scale down, but, still

VR > no VR

[stray wind]

That seems higher than usual, heh.

[shadow siren]

yes our CAD loony seems to have climbed

[vagrant sonnet]

oof, really? I didn't know it was usually that bad

[stray wind]

(I'm a USian temporarily living in Canada. So I'm aware of it.)

[shadow siren]

trapped in Canada

lol

[tardy badger]

Wasn’t it 0.63USD —> 1CAD a month or two ago?

[shadow siren]

yeah just when I finally got my 3080ti

[stray wind]

No, that was the start of COVID. I have been able to travel for a while now. 😄

[tardy badger]

I thought it was really bad just a few months ago

[shadow siren]

cry sooo much money

[vagrant sonnet]

hey at least you got one

MicroCenter near me still has signs that amount to "here is when the truck shows up if you want to try your luck"

[shadow siren]

yeah all thoses people who had orders in that truck that got hijacked

[vagrant sonnet]

oh it's still missing?

[shadow siren]

yep

[vagrant sonnet]

wow I wonder if it's an inside job then

[shadow siren]

EVGA has put out some stern warnings on trying to register the cards

[vagrant sonnet]

I can't imagine those trucks aren't filled to the brim with trackers

[shadow siren]

hey up here in Calgary we had lumber trucks hijacked this summer

imagine a 2x4 going for 40$ CAD per piece

normally they go for 2-4$

[stray wind]

It's been pretty bonkers.

[shadow siren]

yeah bulders having to hire guards for house building sites since they could come back in the morning and all thebuilding supplies were stolen in the middle of the night

I did not hear that the drivers of the stolen semi's of lumber were ever caught but the loads were recoverd

[vagrant sonnet]

for reference here's what I get

[lusty fossil]

Canada also had a multi million dollar maple syrup heist

[vagrant sonnet]

you can see that relative to when the test was made, I am using hardware from the future

[lusty fossil]

I think the mob was theorized to be involved

[shadow siren]

yeah and they took a year to do it and no caught on until a inspector nearly fell of some barrels that were not full

[vagrant sonnet]

whaaaat

that's wild

[shadow siren]

Oh they caught all the people and no mob but it was very funny how they did it

they put millions of dollars of maple in a warehouse with a single camera and 2 guards, the guards were bribed to look the other way and they would roll a truck in take the barrels and bring them back filled with pond water, but after they realized it was so easy they just put empty barrels back

that is what tipped off the inspector when he nearly fell off a stack of empty barrels

[lusty fossil]

wow

[shadow siren]

most of the maple was shipped to the east coast and sold on the grey very grey market so most of it was never recovered

[vagrant sonnet]

just... "maple syrup heist" is SO Canadian. It would not have even occurred to me that it might be heisted.

[lusty fossil]

now I just want pancakes. I did this to myself

[vagrant sonnet]

I did that to myself and boneless wings today

[lusty fossil]

ooof

[vagrant sonnet]

I kept watching a youtuber's skits where the joke is that boneless wings are delicious. I held out for a few days. But then... today happened.

[tardy badger]

Gosh… private insurance is ✨ amazing ✨

[vagrant sonnet]

What'd they do this time?

[tardy badger]

My kids need antibiotics and insurance won’t cover them and I don’t have $300 to pay for them :/

[lusty fossil]

300 dollars for antibiotics is criminal

[tardy badger]

Yeah..

😞

[arctic peak]

Which antibiotic?

[tardy badger]

Amoxicillin

[lusty fossil]

dude

that's like an OG antibiotic. Like they gave that to soldiers in korea. That should not cost 300 dollars. yeesh

[tardy badger]

Tell Walgreens that

$155 per prescription

[lusty fossil]

oof

[arctic peak]

You could try calling the pharmacy and asking to pay without insurance.

[lusty fossil]

goodrx might help

[tardy badger]

Can’t, because we have insurance we don’t qualify for a discount

Wife already asked

[arctic peak]

Tractor supply company?

[lusty fossil]

yeah fishmox is an option

[tardy badger]

Dosage and suspension isn’t the same and my kids are young

[lusty fossil]

a not not dangerous option though

[tardy badger]

5 and 3. My daughter also has a heart defect so no backwoods pharmacy

[lusty fossil]

yeah can't do that

if it helps, I had a heart defect as a kid and I live a relatively normal life now

[tardy badger]

My daughter will live a great life, I’m confident

She has a bicuspid aortic valve

But it doesn’t seem to slow her down

[lusty fossil]

that's great

I had a hole in between my atriums

my parents had really good state insurance at the time so it was mostly paid for

[tardy badger]

We’re trying to get disability Medicaid for my daughter

But it’s a long and arduous process

[lusty fossil]

Totally

[stray wind]

That's bonkers. I've gone to a new pharmacy and simply given them the GoodRx info instead of my insurance info... It's not great, but sometimes it was the only option.

[stray wind]

Incredibly so.

[tardy badger]

We have insurance on file so.. kind of stuck..

[stray wind]

Ah, I'm sorry to hear that.

[tardy badger]

And now there’s something wrong with my daughters prescription with insurance 😔

US insurance is such a scam

[stray wind]

I know. I understand entirely.

[lusty fossil]

I just signed up for life insurance. It's not much but it should cover my "sea borne funeral pyre" needs

[idle iron]

this my 3rd time watching stargate universe and im on 6th episode so far, honestly like this show more now then the first time i watched them all... So much character stuff i didnt notice first time of watch. I think i like rush more then young. IDK they are both kinda horrible people for different reasons

[crystal ore]

Yeah, you don't want to skimp on the quality of the flaming-arrow archer. The low bidders will need half a dozen shots, and that's just an embarrassment for everyone attending. 😉

[lusty fossil]

EdmureTully.gif

[idle iron]

@blissful roost why do you hate the show so much? there is a bit missing in it that SG1 and atlantis had, im not sure what it is though...

[lusty fossil]

Oh gosh am I gonna have to rewatch all the star gate stuff

I am aren't i

[idle iron]

im just trying to give it some current love so maybe a new show will be made

[lusty fossil]

That would be nice

[idle iron]

origins was crap, i cant believe i helped pay for that development... i got a T shirt and watched it while it was being made on the website they had

[blissful roost]

It was fundamentally boring.

[idle iron]

I wouldn't say it is boring, but there are some places im like SKIP but i dont really skip

[hasty wedge]

I am having so many adafruit toys right now

[blissful roost]

I think it's far more interesting to watch my kids while I'm at the office. lol

[hasty wedge]

but everytime there's a new product video

it always makes me want to get more

[blissful roost]

The Raspberry Pi foundation is opening a pop-up store in London for the 26th-27th, so I think I'll swing by and check it out. 🙂

[hasty wedge]

Ohhhh

I hope I am in London

cute sad noise from Boston

[blissful roost]

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/the-raspberry-pi-store-pops-up-in-london/

[hasty wedge]

Yeah, I read that today

envy

120%

[lusty fossil]

I only need 1 kidney, I can fly to London

[hasty wedge]

https://twitter.com/LovelyA72/status/1458462451213783043?s=20

Kashouryo Official (@LovelyA72)

@Raspberry_Pi Boston MA!

Twitter · Nov 10, 2021, 3:51 PM

[blissful roost]

You can meet me.. and this "Upton" guy.

[hasty wedge]

that's my reply

[idle iron]

kids can be very entertaining, omg the dump stuff they sometimes do

[hasty wedge]

[blissful roost]

Mine are just eating and sleeping.. which is pretty much their thing. 😛

[hasty wedge]

and Raspberry Pi liked it

[blissful roost]

The dumbest thing Beau does, is try to clean his sister's feet.. She hates that. 😄

[lusty fossil]

I guess if I have to get a dog walker (anticipating some long work days), I should probably get a doorbell camera and a fancy lockbox huh

Dang it I had mostly avoided IoTing my house

[quartz wren]

Just make a robotic dog walker

[lusty fossil]

My dog needs serious supervision

She has a bite history

Only once but one is too many

[hasty wedge]

drone based dog walker

[quartz wren]

With an auto dispensing sky crane for treats to serve as motivation

With appropriate guards on the props of course

[lusty fossil]

I've considered one of those pet cameras that dispenses treats but right now my only IoT device is my sous vide stick

[quartz wren]

And multi-orientation takeoff / self- righting tech

[lusty fossil]

Eh, details

[weary fiber]

Finally got a bedroom TV for cheap— it’s a weird placement, but my layout maximizes my VR playspace

[blissful roost]

My Grandad used to put a spoonful of gunpowder into his tea every morning. He said it was a very old remedy to help him live longer, and it worked: he lived to the ripe old age of 97.

He left a widow, two children, 14 grandchildren and a 50 foot crater where the crematorium used to be.

[arctic peak]

Good thing your grandfather wasn't a smoker.

[tardy badger]

Sleeping hard, but also coughing all night. Don’t remember coughing, don’t remember getting up to use the bathroom or coughing my lungs out while doing that. All the things my wife said I did last night but don’t remember. But it explains why my throat hurts and I’m so tired

[stoic mesa]

take care...

[quartz wren]

Morning

[quartz wren]

I kind of want to make a point to point wired / stacked chip computer with no substrate

Just for the hilarity of it

Obviously something in the 1MHz range

I'm thinking I may have figured out what to do with the 6507 since I decided to use the full 6502 for the laptop design

And I found a 2k SRAM chip

Just need to find a good NV memory solution for the boot code

Might see if I can get one of my UVEPROMs to work for that but I don't think my blacklight is the right wavelength

(for erasure)

[fair summit]

Sometimes you can just leave them in the sun for a while

[quartz wren]

If there's sun to be had haha

It's monsoon season here

[tight anvil]

hi

where should I ask for help with some xbox one s circuits?

pcb design or?

[lapis bluff]

General project help (when no more specific group exists) happens in #help-with-projects .

[weary fiber]

Just realized my amazon fire stick supports my airpods

absolute godsend for watching shows & not waking people up

[silver shale]

@late fulcrum My supervisor found the Alpha machine, did not go out yet.

not really sure if it was a XP1000 but did have "Digital" on top and looked similar.

[tardy badger]

Remember, with bodge wires and an insane amount of luck you too can design PCBs like me. Ka-chow!

In this case my dumb brain swapped Reset and Bootsel on this ESP32-S2 board 😛

So remove pull up on boot button and add pull up and smoothing capacitor to reset

Also, be sure to be sure of your design otherwise buttons might melt a little 😬

[silver shale]

still cleaner than most of my PCB designs to date

[tardy badger]

It’s an odd mistake for me to make considering I’ve made successful ESP32-s2 boards before

[silver shale]

You are Oak Dev Tech?

[tardy badger]

Oui

[quartz wren]

I've decided I'm going to make a computer whose only non-chip-pin connections will be bodges.

That is, stacks of chips with bodges between

No board

Just for the novelty

I'll probably do video as just a basic controller off a slightly overclocked ATMega chip

With a clock frequency chosen to make interrupt timing line up with the video signal timing

Something like 20MHz for a pseudo 800x600@60Hz signal but with chunky pixels

So probably end up being a max of 200x150

[silver shale]

challenge is getting a ATMega nowadays

[quartz wren]

I have some spares

One that's perfect for the job too I think

[silver shale]

did not think about that

got plenty of Z86 MCUs now

[quartz wren]

I found an ATMega328p with mangled but not broken pins

I'm thinking I can use its IO for the CPU to address its onboard memory using some kind of interrupt routine for frame buffering since the CPU will only be operating at 1 MHz

Then it just addresses it like a RAM chip and then the MCU bangs out the graphics signal

Probably monochrome but I want it to do VGA because I don't have anything with composite input at the moment

Hmm maybe not monochrome I'll have to figure out how I'm doing the IO buffering then I'll see how many pins I have left over, may need a few latches and a common data bus, then I can go up to whatever color depth the system has speed for if I use the same 8 bit bus and a transceiver for pushing data to the MCU as for setting the pixel latches

Then if I have 3 pixel latches and a return value latch for when the MCU reads out the 0th address within the MCU controlled address block for future coprocessor expansion via software it only needs 2 address bits for the latches

Or better, use that latch to hold the output when the CPU is requesting any data from the MCU so it can set things up, then move onto its next task

Anyway I have the RAM chip, I have the flash chip I want to use which will be able to contain up to 128 software swappable ROM banks, and I have my concept for graphical output

May even add another MCU as a coprocessor / IO expander...

Okay I'm going back on what I said... I'm using El Pico Yolo for video and some IO, I'm using the Pico for sound synthesis and the remaining IO

And since the CPU is already mounted to a board and I'm not confident it will survive another removal, there will be 2 boards in the design. The CPU board and the Pico

But there's quite a bit I can pack onto the CPU board especially with chip stacking... May not even need to have floating chips

[lusty fossil]

My project which I've spent months on learning a ton is working. I'm nearly in tears

Couldn't have done it without the kind folks here, shout out to community helpers (don't want to tag them but know your hard work is seen)

I will be making a donation to my local humane society in thanks

[tardy badger]

Nice work @lusty fossil

[lusty fossil]

It was a group effort, truly

[tardy badger]

Always 🎉

Everything I’ve made is a reflection of what I’ve learned in this community 🙂

[lusty fossil]

I'll always use adafruit or adafruit thru digikey as my primary source for parts and such.

[wooden schooner]

Thanks for sharing your gratitude @lusty fossil 🤗

[wooden schooner]

Same

[lusty fossil]

I'm so full of gratitude lol idk what to do with it.

There's a guy living on the street near me with a dog. Maybe I'll buy them dinner tonight

[wooden schooner]

And many of the things I didn't make (such as a custom IMU) are also a reflection of what I've learned here 😆

[lusty fossil]

Oh yeah I got lots of good advice on what not to do

[wooden schooner]

I learned how sophisticated imus are from EdKeyes and then decided not to make one because it would be too hard to test. Since then, I have told other people about imus and gotten them interested

[stray wind]

Congrats!!!!

[stray wind]

This is a lovely thing to do 😊

[lusty fossil]

Lots of dogs and cats in my shelter right now. I'd adopt more but my baby doesn't like other dogs in her space

[stray wind]

My cat would seemingly rather be an only-kitty. But when I'm home in the US, there's two more to deal with. This one spends a lot of time alone in my bedroom when home. But she's happy to sleep under a blanket and loudly let you know when she's ready to be let out.

[lusty fossil]

Awww sweeties

[stray wind]

She's also 17 years old. So she gets what she wants. 😄

[lusty fossil]

My financial goals can be summed up as "afford adoption of an inadvisable amount of animals"

[silver shale]

huh, atoms are larger than I thought

[tardy badger]

Some atoms are huge

Francium for instance has a Van der Waals radius of 348pm!

[silver shale]

Caesium atoms are 0.5nm, transistor sizes are reaching 5nm

I can see how there is a limit

[tardy badger]

IBM reportedly has 2nm process they’ve proven

https://newsroom.ibm.com/2021-05-06-IBM-Unveils-Worlds-First-2-Nanometer-Chip-Technology,-Opening-a-New-Frontier-for-Semiconductors

And Intel created a sort of ladder transistor which allows for 2nm and 3nm transistor sizes

[silver shale]

more efficient computing I find important

2008 x86 CPU can do almost everything I need it to do

[tardy badger]

It’s called ribbonFET

https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2021/07/26/intel-updates-idm-20-strategy-with-new-node-naming-and-technologies/amp/

Better link: https://youtu.be/Rt-7c9Wgnds

[late fulcrum]

The various nanometer claims at this point are just marketing: the old way of measuring transistors has little validity for current processes.

[wary herald]

Yay!

[wooden schooner]

Interesting! Any intro references you know of for this?

[late fulcrum]

Here's one useful writeup: https://www.hpcwire.com/2020/06/01/10nm-7nm-5nm-should-the-chip-nanometer-metric-be-replaced/

[tardy badger]

Yeah, it’s one thing to measure the gate size vs the actual transistor

[silver shale]

500 on the pihole blacklist, I remember hearing that "they (advertisers, govt, etc.) are out to get you on the internet", I am starting to believe that more.

[subtle fable]

Just won two medals, neat

1st for Government and Geography, 2nd for current events

At a conference and they quizzed us over some stuff

[lusty fossil]

Congrats!

[stoic mesa]

nice!
what competition was it?

[subtle fable]

Just some quizzes

[weary fiber]

oh, like wire wrap?

[quartz wren]

A little less elegant than that

But I actually realized the CPU I want to use is already on some phenolic proto board and may not survive another removal... Also I really want a Pico in this and am therefore compromising with the inclusion of a total of 2 boards

So I'm going to try and cram as much of it into a tiny proto board as I can

In stacks of chips arranged cleverly to use minimal space and wiring

[tardy badger]

I recall doing the History Bowl in elementary school

And History Fair which was similar to science fair

Oh, I also did the Science Bowl too

I got third place with my team

Which hilariously enough, watching “How it’s made” actually answered like three questions that came up the next day

On of them was what part of a plant is used in absorbing materials like those used in diapers

The answer was cellulose

[lusty fossil]

Reminds me of the time we had a geography bee. I only studied the capital of Iceland. That was the winning question

[tardy badger]

I can’t spell it but I know what it is

Reykjavík

[lusty fossil]

Yup

[tardy badger]

There it is

It was interesting to learn that the first k makes a weird sound with that j

Like, it doesn’t necessarily sound how it is spelled

[lusty fossil]

Yeah their language (Icelandish?) is super interesting

[tardy badger]

Yeah

[lusty fossil]

I def want to go there

[tardy badger]

Rake ha Vick

[lusty fossil]

Latvia is first on the list though

Cheap for Europe and lots of pretty stuff to see

[tardy badger]

I have a friend in Latvia that I’ve wanted to meet in person for years now

[lusty fossil]

If you watch Brooklyn 99, Boyles adopted son is Latvian. Got me to Google the place

[tardy badger]

Yeah, Riga is super pretty

I want to stop there after visiting the land of my most dominant heritage, Finland

[lusty fossil]

Finland is neat.

I went there as part of a trip with an orchestra I was in. Really cool

[tardy badger]

I mostly want to meet those still practicing traditional Saami practices

[late fulcrum]

I used to work for a company that did international shipping forms. This was before Unicode was common, and I ended up doing some interesting character encoding to properly render some of the characters Latvian uses.

[lusty fossil]

They had a really tasty pork dish. Can't remember what it's called though

[tardy badger]

My mom’s side comes from the Finnish Saami people

So it’s kind of nice to know I’m not 100% white boy but probably at least 1/4 indigenous

[lusty fossil]

Cool!

[tardy badger]

Yeah

[lusty fossil]

My not related to me Godmother is native American so I got to learn about cool stuff

[tardy badger]

Saami experienced and continue to experience a lot of what black Americans go through

[lusty fossil]

Been to a handful of powows

[tardy badger]

And a lot of what native Americans experienced

But luckily the Saami have had a lot of success getting mainstream movies to portray Saami correctly in filmography. At least in the last 5-6 years

The Northoldra people in Frozen 2 were modeled after the Saami with Saami leaders helping make sure the portrayals were accurate and respectful

The Netflix animated Christmas movie Klaus had Saami people in it too 🙂 including their language which is pretty big considering it was banned from being taught it schools in Finland, Sweden, and Norway until very recently

[quartz wren]

Back when educational content was educational

[quartz wren]

Re:

[tardy badger]

https://whatculture.com/amp/film/how-frozen-2-and-klaus-brought-indigenous-sami-representation-to-film

[quartz wren]

I still have no idea how a change of nick on a completely unrelated server ended up applying here too but eh, it's the perfect place to have done so

[lusty fossil]

I wonder if I could write an amputator bot to post non AMP links, like exists on reddit

Probably wouldn't be allowed

[tardy badger]

Who knows

I thought Google killed amp

[lusty fossil]

Haven't heard of that

Ah they did

[tardy badger]

Was about to share a link lol

[wooden schooner]

Related: I dislike Apple News

[tardy badger]

Eh, apple news is better than amp and better than Google news but still not that great in terms of curation

[wooden schooner]

I would prefer to receive direct links to the publisher, ideally with URLs that show something about the title. But at least, something that is not a tracker for a third party

They are stealing information I have not volunteered to give them

I am not speaking to content at all, just the medium

[tardy badger]

Well, I’d argue that Apple steals far less than a standard news webpage

[lusty fossil]

Digital bill of rights was needed 10 years ago

[wooden schooner]

I wish there were a way to pay for an online news subscription but not have them track the articles I read.

[tardy badger]

Well, they want to curate content to you that they think you’ll find interesting

[wooden schooner]

That is not the whole story

[tardy badger]

I don’t necessarily think there is harm in that so long as it doesn’t create an echo chamber

No, it’s never the whole story

Of course apple is going to steer you to news stories that net them the best revenue outcomes

[wooden schooner]

But in any case, I think even if that were their only motive, I think it should be required that they provide the ability to opt out

[wooden schooner]

Also, selling aggregated version of the engagement data to either third parties or other teams within apple

[tardy badger]

I mean, you can’t opt out of Google tracking, Facebook tracking, etc…

Apples data is far more “bland” than Facebook/Google though

[wooden schooner]

You can opt out of some, browser-block some, and still more opt-outability and accountability is needed

[tardy badger]

Sure

Apple does try to at least make your data less targeted

For instance they don’t sell location data

[wooden schooner]

Yes, I think apple is the best of the big players, and I hope apple news is not harbinger of the end of that

[tardy badger]

Google sells your location data to retailers to suggest products based on how long you stood in a particular aisle

It’s.. really creepy

Especially if you have retailer apps on your phone

[wooden schooner]

I want to be able to tell Google maps to not spend CPU cycles fetching a full page of ads every time I arrive at my destination. Just keep showing the map.

[tardy badger]

Target geofences you and aggregates your data with Facebook pixels (which are harder and harder to block) to also target ads

[wooden schooner]

My phone slows to a crawl.

[tardy badger]

It’s nuts

[wooden schooner]

Curious why Facebook pixels are harder to block than ordinary pixels?

[tardy badger]

I’m not sure

But they’ve been making them to try and circumvent cross site tracking

Apparently they are pretty successful

[wooden schooner]

You mean circumvent browser-blocking of cross site tracking?

[tardy badger]

Not as successful as before cross site tracking blocks but still getting better

Yes browser cross site tracking

They apparently also know how to get around the apple required tracking consent

[wooden schooner]

Idek how they would do that but they have probably invested $384474225523 in lobbying for it so...

[tardy badger]

Facebook built their whole business on selling you to businesses

Unfortunately small businesses fell for it as the only means to boost your business

[wooden schooner]

Right but I hope real people win in the battle of attention economy versus real people

[tardy badger]

So now tons of small businesses are struggling

Double edged sword

[umbral phoenix]

I subscribe to newspapers, but rarely use the app or log in to the website, I'll go through contortions to read the articles in a more anonymous way (like Reader View in Safari if there's a paywall, or sometimes hitting it via a search engine)

[wooden schooner]

Me too

[tardy badger]

This used to work for WSJ

But I haven’t been able to do that lately

[lusty fossil]

If I had a business I wouldn't be on Facebook, personally. I wouldn't want to waste an employee's or my time dealing with the Hoi poloi

[umbral phoenix]

I get email news too, but never click through

and each publisher has a separate email address for me

[tardy badger]

I mostly use apple news because I get it in my apple one subscription

Occasionally I’ll read articles in browser

[umbral phoenix]

I do like News for casual news surfing, it's easy enough to get a clean browser link

[tardy badger]

My issue with apple news is I want Top Stories in my widget and it won’t let me

[umbral phoenix]

hm, dunno, I don't do widgets. But I do regularly clear all history in News, and reset the advertising id for news/stocks

(to reduce both filter bubble and tracking)

[lusty fossil]

The apartment next to me is used as a second property by the owners, so it's nearly always vacant. My dog is used to this and gets very upset when someone finally shows up and has the audacity to use their property

I'm just thankful it isn't an airbnb

[umbral phoenix]

hahaha

[lusty fossil]

There's a good pic of her cute mug in #pet-photos atm

[umbral phoenix]

sit, ubu, sit

[lusty fossil]

Ha. My dad used to say that to me lol

[late fulcrum]

The ad targeting is just broken for me. I get ads for jewelry and cars I would never buy, and sketchy bitcoin sites I'd never use.

[lusty fossil]

I get pretty well targeted ads. One of these days I'm gonna sit down and learn how to disconnect my identity from these things

[tardy badger]

I never get crypto related ads

I also get lots of ads for medical treatments and medication for conditions no one in my family has lol

“Highly targeted advertisements”

[lusty fossil]

I'm logged into my buddy's hulu and he gets a lot of ads for a medical condition I'm pretty sure he doesn't have.

[tardy badger]

For instance

[arctic peak]

Has your front fallen off recently? Take ship-floaters pills

[tardy badger]

I don’t drink lol

[lusty fossil]

Lol

[tardy badger]

I don’t like Jack in the box

Ew

[wooden schooner]

It creeps me out that everyone who sends me spam emails seems to know my email address

[tardy badger]

Yeahhh

[wooden schooner]

(originally replied to wrong msg)

[tardy badger]

All good

[wooden schooner]

I've learned all sorts of real people's names that could plausibly be abbreviated as my email address

[tardy badger]

My favorite junk emails are ones that basically just use my email but with the domain truncated

[umbral phoenix]

the last junk email I got was June 9th

[tardy badger]

I have a junk email I used for non-important accounts

[stoic mesa]

one of my friends, whenever he provides his email to create an acct on some site, adds '+xxxx', replacing xxxx' by random number:
[e-mail]

as is well known, Gmail ignores this addition

[umbral phoenix]

I have (checks) >1000 email addresses by now, no two entities get the same one, and if one gets spam, it gets deleted

[stoic mesa]

but this way, when he gets a junk email, he knows which site sold him out

[umbral phoenix]

yes!

[stoic mesa]

1000 email addresses?
how do you manage?
I guess all are forwarded to same inbox?

[umbral phoenix]

to a couple of inboxes, yeah... they are mostly at a bunch of my domains, but now Apple has make-as-you-need hide my email addresses, so that's handy too

years back, I had some gmail et al addresses that were set to forward, but nothing much comes through those anymore, there may well be tons of spam in those junk folders but I rarely if ever log in so I don't know

[wooden schooner]

I think some sites look for this and ignore it, and would index [e-mail] as [e-mail]

I do appreciate sites that respect it though

[umbral phoenix]

dots too https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7436150?hl=en

[weary fiber]

More parts!

Finished with white & grey, now doing the matte aqua stuff

Took me a good two days to start getting successful prints with the aqua stuff, it CONSTANTLY wants to clog & jam

[dusty citrus]

i really want to hear a dubstep remix of ladyada's new song

[blissful roost]

Definitely not me.

[subtle fable]

I’m still at the conference and someone with the name “Wanna see a fight” keeps trying to airdrop stuff to me

Why do people do this

[subtle fable]

Fair

Also i found a calculator for finding heat index temperature (what the temperature feels like) and decided to put in the average summer temperature and humidity for where i live

For reference the hottest day ever recorded in the united states ranks in at 127 degrees on the index

[wooden schooner]

136℉ air temperature? How....

[subtle fable]

Thats in death valley

Was like 134 or 136 that day

Meanwhile where i live, on the complete opposite side of the country, it hits around 90 degrees on average in july but with 70-80% humidity most of the time

And putting in the average values for July you get this for the average

[subtle fable]

This is just one of the worse days, though it’s not the worst possible relative temperature that can be reached

[tardy badger]

Finally, a something-verse I can get behind

https://mobile.twitter.com/iceland/status/1458757245441822731

Inspired by Iceland (@iceland)

Some said an open-world experience this immersive wasn’t possible. But it’s already here. And you don’t even need silly VR headsets.

Introducing, ✨Icelandverse✨
#icelandverse https://t.co/b1cf1REKl9

Retweets

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Likes

14657

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[wary herald]

Yes...

[wary herald]

Firefox

[tardy badger]

Firefox isn’t all that great at it

Safari is actually the best for blocking cross site tracking

[wary herald]

I unfortunately am still using Chrome for some things, but Firefox for the most part

[tardy badger]

Opera is great too

But some sites don’t work completely on Opera

[wary herald]

I can't use Safari on a Windoze computer, can I

[tardy badger]

Not anymore

😦

Back in the day you could

[wary herald]

Opera broke or slowed down most sites so much that I completely uninstalled Opera

https://tenor.com/view/sad-girl-gif-8382180

No offence to you, if you were the one who got in the magazine, but I feel like the article in the new Make: magazine for a Ducky-Pad completely, shamelessly ripped off Adafruit's Macropad, and then gave no reference or links to Adafruit's one whatsoever.

Furthermore, they were selling it on Tindie, and didn't give any reference to the original creators. I don't know how Adafruit's licensing works, and I know it's open source, which is a great thing, but it just seems like the magazine article author just really should have done the right thing and linked or made a reference to Adafruit's design as well as his own.

Sorry for venting XD

[thick wind]

Which article? I was under the impression that the DuckyPad predated the Adafruit Macropad in its own independent development.

The MacroPad dropped Summer 2021, but I believe the DuckyPad was a couple months before...

[wary herald]

Really?? I guess that it uses its own app, but still

I'll look into that

[thick wind]

Yeah, actually it looks like the original duckypad was first prototyped in 2017, and crowdfunding began in 2019. They're also very different devices in everything outside of keys and display.

I know it feels like Adafruit basically invented the macropad when it came out, but their breakthrough wasn't the Macropad with an OLED display. It was the RP2040 and CircuitPython parts that made it stand out as an affordable high-quality entry-level macropad.

If anything Adafruit drew inspiration from the DuckyPad and other similar devices that started becoming increasingly popular through the late 2010s.

[tardy badger]

A few of my boards made it into Make 🙂

[wary herald]

Hmm. I guess it just looks so similar to it

[tardy badger]

In the RP2040 article

I’ve been “published”

[wary herald]

How cool!

Oh, yeah, I see them now.

Sweet!

[tardy badger]

It hasn’t per-say led to any sales but the exposure is cool 🙂

[wary herald]

Yes, I'm waiting for my paycheck

hehe

https://tenor.com/view/boom-india-rich-money-money-money-money-gif-18907754

[fluid forum]

I feel you

money con be nice

[quartz wren]

Heh

Do you ever like

Remember something you did and you're like "ohhhh yeeeeaah, that was a thing!"?

I just remembered I printed one of the set pieces in The Angry Astronaut's background hehe

I really wish the slow apocalypse hadn't started right when I was trying to make a business out of it and I was super unsure about shipping out packages that potentially had viruses on it (or that I might be blamed for someone getting sick from elsewhere) that could survive 3 days outside of a host, plenty of time to survive shipping, and make me responsible for something terrible or be falsely accuse and have no way to prove it wasn't me. And adding 3 days to shipping time is a good way to kill a startup

So I just dropped the project

[wary herald]

hehe

[wary herald]

[blissful roost]

I started my current job last year, right before lockdowns..
I spent 4 weeks at the office with nothing to do, then 7 months of WFH.. getting paid full wage for 30 minutes of work per month.

[silver shale]

developing while in pajamas is something different

[blissful roost]

lol

Never done Dev, but I can well imagine.

[wooden schooner]

What do you do during those 30 minutes?

If you don't mind me asking

[blissful roost]

Receive list of Microsoft product updates, filter down to only the products we use, remove duplicates, send to amended list to colleague.

30 minutes was the slow time. 😛

[wooden schooner]

Wow. And they pay you a full-time salary?

[blissful roost]

Yarp.

[wooden schooner]

You must be really charismatic

[blissful roost]

Hahahahaa

I lucked out.. a few others were on furlough.

Shame it only lasted 7 months.. I could have stuck that out for a long while. 😛

[wooden schooner]

Yeah, though the pandemic situation improving has its upsides too

[blissful roost]

Not for me, as they want to shift me back over to the other office.

[quartz wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880575552807899156/908876423597555732/20211112_162939.jpg

[tardy badger]

Ugh… I like NDA in that they help protect projects in early development but also hate them because I really want to share what I’ve been working on 😒

[wary herald]

Aww

We wanna hear what you've been working on

[tardy badger]

Maybe I can share after the product launches

[wary herald]

Yay

hehe

[tardy badger]

It’s really cool and is going to be really big for our customers when we launch. But probably won’t reveal an MVP until May/June next year

[wary herald]

What company

?

Ooh, I guess the Nit word's banned

[silver shale]

oak dev iirc

[wary herald]

https://www.oakdev.tech/

This it?

[tardy badger]

That’s my personal company, this product I’m developing is with another startup

[wary herald]

I see

[tardy badger]

Yeah

Unrelated unfortunately

[wary herald]

Is the startup confidential too

?

[tardy badger]

At the moment

[silver shale]

Huh interesting

[wary herald]

Interesting

[tardy badger]

Sort of “stealth mode”

Not by my choosing

[wary herald]

I'll be waiting

[tardy badger]

I’d rather develop it open source

But I understand why we are keeping the development under tight wraps

[wary herald]

[silver shale]

I end up open-sourcing my hardware (if possible, MediaCow Touch 1 was made from a bunch of wood laying around, a mess of wires, hot glue and a BPI-M64, not much to open),

[wary herald]

https://tenor.com/view/le-dormeur-pleasure-game-la-momie-the-mummy-dance-gif-16536440

[tardy badger]

Yup lol

[tardy badger]

Lol

Anything with Oak Dev I try to do open source

It is kind of sucky that so many companies will use open source and not contribute back

[blissful roost]

Typically violating the license...

[silver shale]

I generally avoid Allwinner now

[late fulcrum]

Some companies even violate the license by building products around open source software without releasing their own changes or source code.

[blissful roost]

Indeed

[stoic mesa]

See: https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/29/22752850/mastodon-trump-truth-social-network-open-source-gab-legal-notice

[real falcon]

yeah. wonder if something will come to be on that

im utterly bemused on why they removed labels, links etc

I mean, its not even on way. id leave it be

[stoic mesa]

we will see.
But there have been examples of successful litigation which forced companies using GPL'ed code to open their own - I don't remember details, though

[real falcon]

yeah i recall a coupke but not much details lol

[primal flower]

Quick question:

Can an 8ga butt splice crimp fit 2 12ga stranded wire in one end?

I need to go from 2 12ga stranded wire to 1 12ga wire for my Yaesu FT-991 power wire. The radio power port splits off into two ground and two positive wires.

@ me when you reply, please

[tardy badger]

Er mer gurd

Shang-Chi and the legend of the 10 rings

Soooooo good

[blissful roost]

It is! 😁

I downloaded it on D+ yesterday, but I've already seen it at the cinema.

[thick wind]

Theoretically it should, purely by cross-sectional area. Rule of thumb is cross sectional area is halved every 3AWG, and diameter is halved every 6AWG.

Keep in mind, however, that to fit a double crimp into certain terminals, you may end up having to expose a bit more wire than you would otherwise need for a standard crimp.

[primal flower]

Cool. I wasn't aware of that rule of thumb

[primal flower]

Thank you, Hem

[blissful roost]

I need moar nerd stickers! Lol

[wary herald]

Yeah

[wary herald]

I've got a Hackster.io and multiple Xilinx stickers on my laptop

[blissful roost]

😄

[tardy badger]

Lol

[tardy badger]

Do you ever think about how lemons, limes, and oranges are really just the same fruit

[quartz wren]

anyone ever seen a DIP chip installed upside down and surface mount?

I figured out another solution for stacking chips with a socket on top

this is 2k of SRAM and a socket with 256k of parallel flash

only wire they don't always receive the same signal on is chip select and only two signals that are common didn't line up

next step, add the banking circuitry, which is a transparent latch and a PLA

the PLA will get the upper 9 bits of address to determine whether it should select various chips

that way I can have strange memory alignment if I really want to

but the real purpose is so I can have several hardware select addresses

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-ill-allow-it-allowed-gif-4468552

Also hallo not dead just ahhhhh with work

New job stuffs

300 Chromebooks need updating

And/or replacing

I was at work really late last night XD inventory fun

[stoic mesa]

are youbuilding a Chromebook farm, too???

[delicate stream]

Lol, I work in a school

[stoic mesa]

thought so...

[delicate stream]

Current project outside of updating is trying to get Chromium OS running on EoL Chromebooks

Or force installing newer Chrome OS

Oh, I got my ADABOX! I got the bug DX trade, anyone?!

[tardy badger]

oh yay

bundle fly glasses are still cool

[delicate stream]

I want to trade for dragon or cat XD

[tardy badger]

lol i don't have any lol

[delicate stream]

You should buy some to trade with me :P

[tardy badger]

i have no money

unfortunately

had to spend $100 to run more cat6 cable for my wife's job she starts soon

[delicate stream]

Oof

[blissful roost]

I needed two cables for my powerline adapters...
Took two from work. 😁

[tardy badger]

had to get a cheap $20 netgear 8 port switch because the 16 port PoE switch from Ubiquiti is out of stock and i don't want to pay 3x as much from a scalper

[blissful roost]

I got a cheapo tp-link.

Just an easy thing to put on the desk.

[tardy badger]

I have a Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro, and I'm going to be adding cameras to my setup here in the next few months when i have a little more expendable income. So the managed PoE switch would have integrated nicely for that.

[delicate stream]

I need to figure out the best value replacement for 13 Uniquiti APs at work

[tardy badger]

More Ubiquiti APs

Why are you replacing the APs?

@delicate stream do you know kind of Ubiquiti APs are being used currently?

And is there other Ubiquiti network appliances being used with them?

[elder compass]

https://www.twitch.tv/bradleysmash2
My Fraternity is doing a super smash charity tournament today for anyone who wants to pop in watch or donate

Donations go to red cross with a goal of at least $500 but hoping for more!

[delicate stream]

They're out of support, and we're having some issues with smart switching not working and stuff. I think they're UAP-LR -- some of the earliest models

[tardy badger]

Oh gotcha, I’d just replace with the newer LR models

[delicate stream]

I was looking at... I think it was the U6-LR?

[tardy badger]

These? https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-wireless/products/unifi-6-long-range-access-point

[delicate stream]

ye

[tardy badger]

Those are nice ones

WiFi 6 is a good step for future devices that support WiFi 6

[delicate stream]

That's a bonus. Most devices are still older and only 2.4GHz right now

I mostly was looking at those for range and number of clients

[real falcon]

yeah. you have to set server in order to use it

[delicate stream]

A lot of the clients don't have 5GHz. lol

[tardy badger]

This reads weird lol I’m not sure what you mean

[real falcon]

unifi have a server you can set in order to manager aps and such

[tardy badger]

Oh, yea I know that bit

It’s not really a server more than a control software

You can install it on any windows computer without having to buy Unifi controller equipment

There’s even a Linux distro if you want to run headless

[real falcon]

yeah its bit of annoyance lol since phone app you cant set wpa3

only via such manager software that you can do it

[tardy badger]

You mean phones not being able to use Wpa3 on phones?

I can set WPA3 from the Unifi app on my iPhone but I don’t think any devices in my network support WPA3 yet

[real falcon]

no

phone app to configure ap

sorry very tired cant really clearly explain stuff lol

[tardy badger]

I can set it to WPA3

From the iPhone App

[real falcon]

odd. standalone config screen?

[tardy badger]

I can provision all APs from this screen

(I have two AP Lite)

[real falcon]

ok

not sure why app i used didnt. only has 1 or 1/2

[tardy badger]

I use the Unifi Network app

It might be because I have a dream machine pro

🤷‍♂️

[real falcon]

ok

[quartz wren]

Gooooooood morning!

[lusty fossil]

you were just in time for that message here in pacific time, came in at 11:59

[quartz wren]

Yes I know

I'm in pacific time

Good afternoon!

[real falcon]

good pre-night!

[quartz wren]

Good <time of day> to you <appropriate title>

[tardy badger]

Sir/Madam/pleasant and kind terrestrial/other distinguished formal title

Don’t drop the “l” on pleasant or you might see a peasant

Which makes me wonder if Pleasant was used to describe peasants who cleaned up nicely?

Etymology is interesting

Spelled it wrong 😆

[lusty fossil]

at least you didn't "spelt" it wrong, that's a bread making mistake

[tardy badger]

Bugs vs Word Origins

[tardy badger]

Breader spelt it rye(T)

It’s knot a want, but a knead

😆

Has everyone here seen Shang-Chi?

[lusty fossil]

Yup

[tardy badger]

Great movie

I love the cameo from Iron Man 3. (Won’t say who for those who haven’t seen it)

But overall, I really loved the movie

I said last night and will say it again; it was a very refreshing change of pace from other marvel movies

[lusty fossil]

is it up on D+?

[tardy badger]

Yeah

I watched it for the first time last night

Going to watch Jungle Train tonight

[lusty fossil]

I'll have to watch again. I gotta watch Dune again first, cold medicine led me to falling asleep in the theatre!

[tardy badger]

[lusty fossil]

I liked the first 40% of it

and I'm glad they are making part 2

[tardy badger]

I haven’t seen dune yet

[lusty fossil]

I can recommend the first bit

[tardy badger]

I wish I have the ability to go to the theatre but childcare for date night is expensive

[lusty fossil]

yeah makes sense

[tardy badger]

One day

Going to try and have money saved up to see Spider-Man No Way Home and have a sitter

[weary fiber]

Made a quick demo video of my custom made laser projector ^^

[lusty fossil]

neat!

[lusty fossil]

IDK if they still do this, but when I was a kid the local theatre had a sound proofed room for families.

[tardy badger]

No, not anymore

[lusty fossil]

ah dang

[tardy badger]

It kind of sucks. There use to be tons of amenities for families for going out in public

[lusty fossil]

must be more money and less overhead without it

[tardy badger]

Probably

Sometimes kids can make places less profitable because they can sometimes make places noisier or less enjoyable

[lusty fossil]

yeah and I don't think the kids menu is always profitable? IDK though, never run a restaurant

Denny's seems to be pretty kid friendly though

[tardy badger]

Yeah, kids meals usually lead to adult meals being ordered so they are great lead ins

But yeah, part of the decline in family friendly places is due to people having less kids and often opting to shop at home or wait till movies release digitally

[quartz wren]

I mean half the battle is getting you to the store to get something then you've got a good chance of impulse buying

[late fulcrum]

They've kind of given up trying around here.

[lusty fossil]

malls are dying. IDK how to feel about it

[late fulcrum]

It's a positive feedback mechanism too. If there are no stores to lure shoppers, shoppers won't be there. If there are no shoppers, it doesn't pay to open a store.

[real falcon]

it used to be nice to look around and see many stores, but near end it was just 10 different clothes store and 2 or 3 other

I havent entered mall for few years now

[late fulcrum]

Amusingly, two of the surviving stores are phone stores. The same carrier, too. I'm guessing that says something about the profit margin of phone stores.

[lusty fossil]

yeah. I was really impressed with the employee who handled my recentish upgrade. They had me out the door in less than an hour. I gave them the highest marks available on the survey

I always do that though, even if the service is just "fine", as those metrics are usually interpreted as anything less than perfect is a failure and I'm not gonna do that to someone

[stoic mesa]

from my limited experience, this graph is indeed accurate

at least the US and Eastern European parts

[tardy badger]

Lol

I fall into some mix of Eastern European and British

[tardy badger]

Some malls are still doing okay. Some southern area malls are supported by older retired communities that use them for safe places to work out/walk in the mornings and during the inter months

Which also tends to draw single or stay at home moms looking for a safe place to walk their child

[late fulcrum]

I hear the malls in northern NJ are doing well too.

[blissful roost]

My wife says they are..

[tardy badger]

Cleaning up my computer

Trying to take decent pictures too lol

The nicest part of my computer?

The graphics card lol

[idle iron]

why my moms $700 phone not come with a charger but my $45 phone did? something is wrong here....

[tardy badger]

The brick?

Or the cable?

Apple and Samsung (part of their pledge to reduce waste) have stopped including charging bricks in their phone packaging

[lusty fossil]

they say it's so that there is less waste since "everyone" has a charger, but I suspect it's so they can sell more chargers. That's just conspiracy theory though

[tardy badger]

They reckon that most people have lots of bricks from previous phone purchases

I have, lots of bricks

But I don’t have any USB-C bricks so the charging cables that came with my iPhone 12 mini only really works if I want to plug it into my MacBook Pro

[delicate stream]

"environmental concerns"

That's usually what the line is

Although I know when I finally get my Pixel 6 Pro I'll just be using all my old chargers anyway

I have many many bricks and don't use them all... plus I usually use my 6 port chargers when charging many things at once

[delicate stream]

Hehe, Bad Apple demo... nice. What was your build cost for this?

[idle iron]

i was thinking they want people to buy those wireless charging things

[delicate stream]

They probably want folks to buy a charger of some description

I don't think they care if it's wired or wireless

[lusty fossil]

I hope Apple (and then by default Samsung) don't go to wireless only charging

[delicate stream]

Same, I don't want wireless if I need to use a pad

I don't want to be tied down -- I often use my phone while connected to the charger when my battery is low, and I don't want to have to like, lean over my desk. Plus I don't want the added heat

[this is why I'm using my older chargers on the Pixel 6 Pro when I get it -- they won't generate as much heat in the battery since they won't charge it at max]

[blissful roost]

I'm still using the Pixel 2/4 XL chargers.

[delicate stream]

I actually don't know where the stock charger is for my Pixel 2 XL... I realized I had my Nexus 6P charger mixed in with my other random chargers, I've been using it for like Pi and stuff randomly

I probably have like 50kW worth of USB chargers, lol

[tardy badger]

Geez

[delicate stream]

lol

[late fulcrum]

Reminds me of the video SparkFun did of an arc welder made from a lot pf chargers

[tardy badger]

Lol

I recall that video

It’s brilliant

[delicate stream]

Haha, that was one of the open tabs I just scrolled past on another machine

[wooden schooner]

In college a physics prof charged up a ~1mF capacitor to 0.3 Coulomb and asked us how long it would take to discharge across a small copper wire

I hope the whole not knowing what he was doing and looking to the TA in the back thing was at least partly just an act

He took one guess from a student: "a second" then closed the switch. The little wire evaporated instantly and he told us to hurry out of the lecture hall (it was time to end), "it's not good for you to inhale copper"

He was a great prof. Turns out one does not have to have practical electronics skills to do research in quantum chromodynamics

[delicate stream]

XD

[tardy badger]

Lol

[fossil gust]

Had a board idea, that I was hoping that Limor & Phil might like & they might consider making & selling.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DAaiUrtUdlI0JpwLZahOVzvJx66-Z-D0/view?usp=sharing

I figured it would have the same size stand offs & screws as the Bonsai Buckaroo, & be a more compact way to easily connect wires, especially if people don't have alligator clip leads.

[lusty fossil]

Can anyone recommend good wiki creation software? Needs to be a private wiki accessible only by certain people

[delicate stream]

PIXEL 6 PRO ORDERED YAY! Not shipping until December 22-23… but now I know it’s coming!

[hasty quarry]

https://youtu.be/0tsRu5_pmVo

0:56

That part. That change of mood

It’s so ridiculously beautiful to me

There’s just something so profound about that part, I can’t word it

[blissful roost]

Why so late for shipping?!?

[delicate stream]

Insane demand, supply chain issues. I've been trying to place an order for almost a month as it is -- I'd check back often, and the capacity I wanted was almost always out of stock, and when it WAS in stock, it would be out of stock before I could finish checkout

[blissful roost]

Dang...

I placed my pre-order on the 20th, so it arrived on release day.

[delicate stream]

I kinda wish I had preordered now. But yeah, preorders didn't really have wait issues

[blissful roost]

Thing is.. my contract wasn't due until December, so I should have been in the same situation.

Free early upgrade?
Pixel 6 Pro on pre-order??

Sure, why not..

[delicate stream]

Lol. I haven't had a contract in.... I can't remember. This is only going to be my 3rd new phone in the last decade

[blissful roost]

Nexus 4 = 2012..

Sheesh

I've had all my best phones in the last 10 years.

[delicate stream]

I've got a Pixel 2 XL, before that was the Nexus 6P. I think I had a Galaxy S4 was what I had before that?

But I had the S4 for a few years before I got the 6P

[blissful roost]

N4, N6, Pixel 2 XL, 4 XL, 6 Pro.

🙂

I like my Google devices. lol

[delicate stream]

Before it actually came around, I was dreaming of a 5 XL as replacement for my 2 XL... I was very disappointed by there not being a big one and the 5 didn't feel like it would be an upgrade over my 2 XL anyway

[blissful roost]

Yeah, I skipped the 5.
Just didn't seem a significant upgrade

[delicate stream]

It's pretty bad when a phone 3 generations back feels like it's the same thing aside from OS updates

[blissful roost]

lol

My P2XL is still running strong, currently being used as a bunny cam for Twitch. 😛

[delicate stream]

Seriously though, OS updates [security specifically] is my #1 priority -- I might have kept using my 6P well into the Pixel 4 era if I'd been able to keep it secure and swapped the battery

Lol. My Pixel 2 XL has been a bit glitchy in daily use, but battery is the biggest thing

But it'll be a B-roll camera probably

I still use my 6P for some shots

[blissful roost]

You'll really like the 6 Pro.

[delicate stream]

I'm fairly certain I will

[blissful roost]

🙂

[delicate stream]

There are 3 things I'm not too happy about tho -- 1] in-screen fingerprint sensor 2] no front-facing speakers 3] pinhole

[blissful roost]

Don't use FP.. Top speaker is front-firing.. I think..

Yes, the punch hole camera is an annoyance.

[delicate stream]

I just want a Nexus 6P formfactor with new internals

[blissful roost]

4x optical zoom, from about 10 foot away

[delicate stream]

One thing that has annoyed me with the 2 XL is that I almost always have the screen freak out if I grab the phone by the front and back because there's not enough room to grab without touching the screen

[blissful roost]

lol

[delicate stream]

I use fingerprint all the time -- I often put my finger on the sensor as I'm pulling it out, but I don't think I'll be able to do that on the 6 Pro...

[blissful roost]

Narp

[delicate stream]

Personally I don't understand the need to make the ENTIRE front of the phone screen

[blissful roost]

shrugs

I'd rather have a good set of front-firing speakers

[delicate stream]

Exactly

[blissful roost]

YT should normally be a lot more... I think I fell asleep with my phone unlocked earlier. Lol

[blissful roost]

So, yeah.. Media consumption is a big thing.
We want good speakers!

[delicate stream]

I feel like that isn't accurate...

[blissful roost]

31 minutes? lol

Doubt

[delicate stream]

Mostly the unlock count

I've only been up for like 3 hours and mostly on desktop

Meanwhile, on my iPhone

[blissful roost]

https://tenor.com/view/resolution-going-down-nick-zetta-basically-homeless-low-resolution-resolution-moving-down-gif-19144084

😛

[delicate stream]

lol

[blissful roost]

Always bugs me, when I look at my old phones..

I've still got the LG P970 (Optimus Black).

The screen res is so bad. 😛

https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_black_p970-3704.php

[delicate stream]

I don't know where anything other than my 6P is, and that's still 1440p -- just a little shorter screen than the 2 XL

[blissful roost]

Oohhh

Apparently my new case needed to be customised.

[honest jolt]

almost done!

[dusty citrus]

thats really cool.

you could add a push button, it'll switch to a family calendar pulled down from a google calendar in the

iCal format

[delicate stream]

There are buttons, so I probably could do that. Have it change automatically every hour or something...

[dusty citrus]

the ical format is nicely sorted so doing a binary search on it the data for whatever happens this week works great.

[delicate stream]

Nyoom

[tardy badger]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-car-drive-thug-life-gif-18972601

[quartz wren]

Well I just narrowly avoided disastrophe

I neglected to do a cold pull after switching from PETG to PLA and the nozzle started clogging mid-print

But I was lucky, the clog pushed itself out and just left a black streak which was subsequently covered by the next layer

[delicate stream]

oop

[wooden schooner]

Reminds me of this excellent schooling in bus operation. A true master. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1459613123590066180.html

[lusty fossil]

I'm trying to decide if a wiki or a traditional manual is best for my project. Are wikis easier for a layperson to maintain than a LaTeX document?

[crystal ore]

Yes, they're considerably friendlier than LaTeX.

[lusty fossil]

Ok cool I'll start with a wiki and then do a traditional manual too if it's needed. Can you recommend a specific wiki solution?