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#general-chat
weary fiber
I’m always so scared to mess with flux lol
I hear stuff ranging from “it’s harmless” to “scrub your hands immediately after contact”
Like, I use it all the time, but I try to be extra cautious
delicate stream
I've never used extra flux
vestal pier
I love flux. It makes lead-free soldering actually possible
delicate stream
I do lead free exclusively and it just works for me XD
static flare
I need to find right angled headers
delicate stream
Digikey? I've seen them there before
static flare
eh, i'd kinda prefer something local, but that's just me
delicate stream
Sadly there isn't a Micro Center down under
static flare
we do have jaycar tho, i just dunno what im looking for haha
delicate stream
404
static flare
?
delicate stream
Never heard of them, lol
static flare
they're aussie
delicate stream
Ah
static flare
welp, they don't sell right angled bare headers
delicate stream
F
static flare
i could go with an IDC style thing
delicate stream
Not familiar
static flare
delicate stream
Ah
static flare
I have to go with 26 instead of 20
so I could probably add a few more VCC and GND stuff
I'm adding a breakout for the rest of the GPIO pins for my Pico
delicate stream
I wanna add socket headers on a Pico too
static flare
ooh
delicate stream
plugs Pico with pins into Pico with sockets, insane laughter
dusty citrus
I have all pins accessible to dupont push-ons by sandwiching extra long header pins between the target and some scrap perfboard.
Go with one fewer rows spacing on the perfboard, which provides plenty of spring tension. Fold over a couple of pins on the target (top side) and a couple underneath as well. Done deal.
Connectivity 8 minutes after thinking about doing it. ;) No solder; can all be undone quickly.
I use an old wirewrap tool to bend the header pins over. ;)
delicate stream
I wonder what would happen if you stacked 2 Pico boards on the same pins
honest jolt
5v power ---> 💥? <--- 5v power
(or 3.3v - same thing)
Regulators probably don't like being back fed power
dusty citrus
You would have two regulators in parallel, input and output, maybe.
delicate stream
Maybe I should try it XD
dusty citrus
I would design a proper bus and figure out which pins are to be left d/c.
delicate stream
But that's a lot less fun than potentially exploding something :P
honest jolt
Maybe I should try it XD
Tell us how it goes 😁
dusty citrus
Save that remaining eye for a holiday.
delicate stream
lol
I mean, if only one is powered, it's really only the unpowered one that's at risk, right?
dusty citrus
Generally I bond at the output of the regulator for parasitic powering of an otherwise unpowered target, iirc.
honest jolt
🤔 I would think so but if you say connect both to USB then both regulators would be on. If you only power one via USB then the 5v (idk if 5v of 3.3v) would power the other Pico. I do this with Arduino boards all the time as an ISP programmer.
dusty citrus
I have two-board projects where if I plug into USB on either, both get powered.
But I don't plug in both at the same time, usually.
On those I think I share VBUS mostly.
delicate stream
FOR SCIENCE
dusty citrus
I had a situation come up where the 5.0 volts from a USB cable tried to backpower the Raspberry Pi interconnected for the other direction.
(Pi usually powers an STM32 target; in this instance the rarely-used USB cable connected to the STM32 for firmware uploading tried to backpower the RPi, overloading the host PC USB port).
So I put in a Shottky diode to prevent that from working at all. Result: can freely plug in that USB cable, and not worry about trying to backpower the Pi.
delicate stream
It did not explode
honest jolt
No 
???
delicate stream
Nope!
honest jolt
You plug in USB to one of the Picos?
static flare
technically, if one has usb power, both are on, because of VSYS iirc
it's either VSYS or VBUS
honest jolt
I keep reading VBUS as VUSB 😅
delicate stream
Yes, I plugged in one of them, both are running, lol
static flare
VBUS
dusty citrus
It's not good practice to connect both the inputs and the outputs of two (same part number) voltage regulators together (in parallel).
You can do that with discrete Darlington transistors, though.
honest jolt
@delicate stream now make a program that uses both Picos at the same time if they are still working 15 minutes later XD
static flare
honest jolt
Maybe you could do some intense number crunching or a bitcoin miner 
honest jolt
I would like to see that - gonna try to make one for the ESP32 and see the S/H - note "seconds per hash" instead of "hashes per second" 😂
delicate stream
lol
How far can it go?
Das a biiiiiig numbah
If I just declare a variable like count = 1, what type is it?
evidently a type that can handle absolutely insane numbers
It now has 6 rows of digits
Taking bets on if it'll just overflow and go negative or crash the Pico!
honest jolt
I bet memory error
delicate stream
lol
honest jolt
Leave it running over night 😆
delicate stream
Look at it go!
honest jolt
Is your code something like this:
count = 0
while True:
print(count)
count += 1
😂
static flare
If I just declare a variable like `count = 1`, what type is it?
python is weird with that
delicate stream
ah
static flare
and I have my pcb designed! i can very much just test this with my neokey breakouts when they arrive tho
honest jolt
Also try doing something like this:
count = 2
while True:
print(count)
count = count ** 2
The ** operator is the exponenet.
delicate stream
That would explode faster, right? XD
honest jolt
Depends on how fast the power operator is to the multiply operator
delicate stream
The actual code ```python
import board
import displayio
import digitalio
import framebufferio
import sharpdisplay
import busio
import time
print("cat")
Release the existing display, if any
displayio.release_displays()
spi = busio.SPI(clock=board.GP10, MOSI=board.GP11)
led = digitalio.DigitalInOut(board.LED)
led.direction = digitalio.Direction.OUTPUT
count = 1
#bus = board.SPI()
chip_select_pin = board.GP13
Select JUST ONE of the following lines:
For the 400x240 display (can only be operated at 2MHz)
#framebuffer = sharpdisplay.SharpMemoryFramebuffer(bus, chip_select_pin, 400, 240)
For the 144x168 display (can be operated at up to 8MHz)
framebuffer = sharpdisplay.SharpMemoryFramebuffer(spi, chip_select_pin, width=144, height=168, baudrate=8000000)
display = framebufferio.FramebufferDisplay(framebuffer)
print("uwu")
while True:
print(count)
led.value = True
print("OwO")
time.sleep(0.001)
led.value = False
print("uwu")
time.sleep(0.999)
count *= 2
How'd you get colors? XD
delicate stream
strange, I did that
honest jolt
the python keyword tells discord it's python code
hmmmmmmm
ahhhhhh
no newline after ```
delicate stream
I didn't
honest jolt
you did:
```
python
<your code>
```
it's:
```python
<your code>
```
delicate stream
Oh wait, maybe edits don't work
honest jolt
delete and repost?
delicate stream
import board
import displayio
import digitalio
import framebufferio
import sharpdisplay
import busio
import time
print("cat")
# Release the existing display, if any
displayio.release_displays()
spi = busio.SPI(clock=board.GP10, MOSI=board.GP11)
led = digitalio.DigitalInOut(board.LED)
led.direction = digitalio.Direction.OUTPUT
count = 1
#bus = board.SPI()
chip_select_pin = board.GP13
# Select JUST ONE of the following lines:
# For the 400x240 display (can only be operated at 2MHz)
#framebuffer = sharpdisplay.SharpMemoryFramebuffer(bus, chip_select_pin, 400, 240)
# For the 144x168 display (can be operated at up to 8MHz)
framebuffer = sharpdisplay.SharpMemoryFramebuffer(spi, chip_select_pin, width=144, height=168, baudrate=8000000)
display = framebufferio.FramebufferDisplay(framebuffer)
print("uwu")
while True:
print(count)
led.value = True
print("OwO")
time.sleep(0.001)
led.value = False
print("uwu")
time.sleep(0.999)
count *= 2
honest jolt
Now try:
... # your previous code before the while loop
last_print = time.time()
while True:
if time.time() - last_print > 1000:
last_print = time.time()
print(count)
count = count * 2 # Use ** for exponent
Run it as fast as you can 🙂
delicate stream
I don't wanna reset now :P
delicate stream
lol
while True:
print(count)
led.value = True
print("OwO")
time.sleep(0.00001)
led.value = False
print("uwu")
time.sleep(0.00001)
count *= 2
display full!
big fast
now I do 100x faster!
honest jolt
Hehe I would race your Pico with my PyGamer but you would probably easily outpace the ATSAMD51 😂
honest jolt
I was about to say I'd beat you by doing it in C but I realized I wouldn't have arbitrary ints 🤣
delicate stream
I saw the number get to a couple lines and then it just was like 1 1 1 1 1 every line
And it filled my terminal buffer in a second
honest jolt
lol
delicate stream
changing to 0.25 delay
honest jolt
I just tried it in standard Python, and I ran it for like, 1 second. Now it's not doing anything 
delicate stream
It refuses
honest jolt
lol
delicate stream
phone call XD
honest jolt
well 1 to the power of anything is 1 so....
you have to start with 2 or a decimal XD
delicate stream
oh.... yeah... right.... I thought about that... just testing you....
It still refuses
Wait, how am I uploading videos that size? o-o
honest jolt
delicate stream
Ohhhh, that's cool
honest jolt
This server is kindly boosted by many people so we can get to level 3 ♥️
heady kindle
Just curious, how often do ya'll clear off your desks/office? Seems like I have a maker bender about once a week and the office just gets wrecked and stays that way for a month 🙂 Filament rolls, boxes of parts, boards, cables, and breadboard wires are everywhere and I wonder if ya'll manage this better than me?
delicate stream
coughs and ignores untouched papers from 2007
heady kindle
HAHA I feel that.
late fulcrum
I get told "always be knolling " but I'm bad at it
honest jolt
clearing my desk? what's that?
delicate stream
I basically try to keep the space I need to use open... But things pile and fall off and then either get added back to the pile or otherwise dealt with
But I'm building a NEW LAB/WORKSPACE AND IT'LL BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME
I'm gonna have big bins for projects and small bins for parts. If I'm switching projects, not current thing goes in bin on shelf
Minimize the random crap on my desk
update on progress
while True:
print(count)
led.value = True
print("OwO")
time.sleep(0.0000001)
led.value = False
print("uwu")
time.sleep(0.0000001)
count *= 2
Waiting for when it will take more time to print all the numbers then sleep 😂
delicate stream
lol
umbral phoenix
takes longer than desktop Python, but PyPortal eventually gives an answer to: >>> 2**65536
umbral phoenix
2^
desktop still thinking on this one: 2**(2**64), I don't hold out much hope for PyPortal
delicate stream
XD
still going... seems still fast?
The LED blinking seems uneven
100x faster now!
OH WAIT IT DID IT
I SAW IT ERROR OR SOMETHING AND I THINK IT RESTARTED
I don't think it can actually get faster
Going to just remove sleep, lol
and go to x4 instead of x2
I just realized, I can either make it go really fast OR catch what the error is, lol... if it's going too fast, I miss the error
umbral phoenix
...desktop still thinking...
honest jolt
put the while loop in a try: except:
try:
<your while loop>
except:
sys.print_exception() # or whatever it is
time.sleep(10000)
don't forget to import sys
honest jolt
after printing the exception is should just sleep for 10,000 seconds which should be plenty of time to copy/paste exception for us 😆
delicate stream
ohh, lol
honest jolt
i thin kit's sys.print_exception() someone pls confirm
delicate stream
No sleeps, taking a long time!
honest jolt
i don't have a device to play with rn
umbral phoenix
yes, sys.print_exception(), https://micropython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/library/sys.html#sys.print_exception, but it's not in CircuitPython >=7.0.0
honest jolt
What will it be in 7.x?
umbral phoenix
not sure, there was some discussion
honest jolt
C:\Users\[CENSORED]>python
Python 3.9.0 (tags/v3.9.0:9cf6752, Oct 5 2020, 15:34:40) [MSC v.1927 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> from time import time as unix
>>> def do_my_carp():
... start_time = unix()
... 2**(2**64)
... return unix() - start_time
...
>>> do_my_carp()
this is taking a while 😆
honest jolt
7GB OF MEMORY!!!
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "<stdin>", line 3, in do_my_carp
MemoryError
umbral phoenix
...still thinking...
delicate stream
umbral phoenix
if it actually finishes, it will be spewing out digits for a long time
delicate stream
lol
I should try doing something stupid like this on my new workstation once I build it
Possibly tonight...
honest jolt
...still thinking...
What's the memory usage? Like 15GB??? 😂
delicate stream
If someone will give me $1600 to get 256GB of RAM for my Threadripper system we can see how far it'll go there, lol
kindred wigeon
wut
delicate stream
Sadly I only have a pedestrian 128GB
kindred wigeon
?
honest jolt
128GB?????
delicate stream
Yes
honest jolt
I only get 12GB
delicate stream
oof
honest jolt
and a tiny 128GB SSD to squeeze Windows and like, 50 IDEs in 😆
kindred wigeon
what is ssd again
honest jolt
Solid state drive
kindred wigeon
got it
delicate stream
RIP !!!
I've retired all spinning rust from my workstations
It's almost too big for the display!
honest jolt
This proves to show how well they coded CircuitPython ♥️
umbral phoenix
What's the memory usage? Like 15GB??? 😂
100GB
umbral phoenix
totally, lots of paging going on
delicate stream
Dun kill yer SSD, yo!
umbral phoenix
it's fine, I need an excuse to upgrade 😉
delicate stream
Unless you're like me and have a dedicated pagefile SSD, lol
XD
ahh crap that's what I forgot to get for the new system
Wait is that PSU big enough
wait no I'm good
I need to sleep more and pay attention
that's big
delicate stream
Almost too big for the screen!
FULL SCREEN
I can no longer see the full number
static flare
Are you utilising both cores? Maybe one to do the math, the other to do the display?
delicate stream
Ohh, I forgot there's two cores... No idea how to specify core usage, lol. Plus the math is what's slowing it down XD
So too much for screen because the number is so huge
On laptop
delicate stream
weary fiber
Finally learned how to mod my printer’s firmware
delicate stream
OwO
real falcon
lol
delicate stream
I kinda want to put a full color screen on mine
weary fiber
If you’ve got money to spend, some SKR boards come in sale-bundles with TFT screens
I was just shopping around for them today, actually
delicate stream
Link?
slim shard
Now to see a 556 (or if that is too easy, a 558)
late fulcrum
Then there's the Monster 6502
slim shard
hmm, now for the biggest/most inefficient NAND gate contest!
late fulcrum
Hmmm
delicate stream
toob!
late fulcrum
I love tubes in general, but I also realize they have a good head start on "big/inefficient"
delicate stream
I bet I can do "better"
heady kindle
I basically try to keep the space I need to use open... But things pile and fall...
You mean enough room to fit your keyboard 🙂
late fulcrum
I know that feel
delicate stream
madbodger understands me
real falcon
very safe wiring
limber jackal
very safe wiring
delicate stream
literally
limber jackal
Exactly!
real falcon
lol
delicate stream
I'm going to write a book called How Not to Bodge, and that'll be the first entry
stoic mesa
I'm going to write a book called *How Not to Bodge*, and that'll be the first en...
Of course. They should have used proper bodge wires!
delicate stream
They should have just brought the outlet out XD
Like, seriously... if they wanted decora outlets, they could have just replaced the outlet and installed a new box that was flush with the new wall layer
stoic mesa
I was not seriously suggesting using an AWG30 bodge wires on AC mains outlet :)
delicate stream
lol, AWG30 is like... insta-fire time
stoic mesa
Nah, it would evaporate before anything has time to catch fire
delicate stream
lol
slim shard
I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXeSsevsNNE
delicate stream
Update on the Pico multiplying into insanity: left it overnight, apparently it just totally broke at some point???
Just disconnected and frozen like this
Sadly I don't know what the full number is -- screen apparently only buffers what's visible
dusk oracle
i think it's safe to say it stopped on buffer overflow
slim shard
huh, I thought screen would let you scroll up after starting some mode.... thinking....
ctrl-a escape, then pageup/down
escape to leave that mode
delicate stream
I have no pageup/down on this laptop XD I can scroll with the scroll bar, but it's blank above that
slim shard
cursor up also works for me
delicate stream
delicate stream
Yeah, it looks like it closed when the Pico crashed/disconneced
slim shard
not obvious that there is a option to leave the dead session up
delicate stream
That terminal window is just totally dead XD
I can't even type a new command
Pico doesn't show up now... uhoh
slim shard
wow, interesting, my gentlest form of kicking the term is ctrl-l
slim shard
then I start looking towards the terminal windo reset options
eh, powercycle it, probably fine
oh, even for bootloader, implies you tried that
slim shard
"There are no experimental failures. There's only more data."
slim shard
where are people getting more than 3 at a time, I'd like 5, but I'm not paying for two shippings
delicate stream
I got mine at Micro Center, they don't have a limit
Lots in stock. They had originally sold them for $3.99 for 1 and $5.99 each for 2+, then $3.99 each up to 5 and $5.99 each for 6+... but eventually just went to base price unlimited because they're not moving fast enough
I think my area might have less makers who make the pilgrimage out there
delicate stream
CA? lol
slim shard
also interesting, as that suggests there is no contractual requirement to be $4, I wondered about that, you know, supply and demand
delicate stream
I checked half the stores, most are 25+ in stock... one in CA is at 5 left and another store had 10, but the rest are stocked up well
I think $3.99 is MSRP
slim shard
highly likely
I half expected a company that couldn't keep stock to bump price, because economics yo
by half expected I mean about 7/8ths expected
delicate stream
Price bumps do happen, but I think in the case of something where it is available in general, they don't want to bump up too much -- GPU new prices took some time to actually start rising when stocks ran out
And nobody wants to be first to cost more if customers will just go to the cheaper places, lol
slim shard
adafruit had me thinking the picos just flew up into the sky at their earliest ability
because they seem out of stock 75% of the time
otherwise limited
delicate stream
Limits good so people don't buy them all, lol
Maybe I should buy a few hundred from Micro Center and give them to Adafruit to resell XD
slim shard
well, if people are buying them all, we skip back to economics
delicate stream
Hey Lady Ada do you wanna buy 1000 Picos?
slim shard
unless you get a great deal, you just neatly ate their margins :-)
delicate stream
Actually they probably get them for like $2, lol
delicate stream
Playing with this thing... $4 feels like a steal
I'd feel kinda scummy scalping them
slim shard
it IS, compare it to anything 3x the price
honest jolt
Playing with this thing... $4 feels like a steal
SHARE T.T /j
delicate stream
I will happily purchase and ship them for cost with shipping!
slim shard
you could do a One Pico Per Child thing, sell for 2x, give one away to a needy yute
delicate stream
yute?
honest jolt
Shipping from Australia to the east side of America does not sound cheap though XD
delicate stream
lol, probs not
slim shard
a word for youth, I think I heard Danny DeVito use it once
delicate stream
lol
delicate stream
Shipping from Australia to the east side of America does not sound cheap though ...
I guess the only way this can make sense is if you go big, right? Get as many in the box as possible? buy 1000, sell to friends for like 5 cents more than each unit's cost + part of shipping, lol
Wait, you said Australia to America, did you mean America to Australia?
honest jolt
No, I live in America 😆
If you ship to here it's probably like, $10
slim shard
all the 'roos will have dual core microcontrollers to play with
delicate stream
Oh, I'm in America, dunno why you thought I was in Australia XD
honest jolt
sorry
delicate stream
lol, it's cool
honest jolt
I write notes to where like, people live if they mention it
honest jolt
Like this is yours: (seems so stalker now I think about it sorry no mean intents)
I might have messed up which sounds reasonable of me
delicate stream
I have zero idea where you got that idea XD
slim shard
helps Sony collect user info surreptitiously
delicate stream
I find this hilarious
honest jolt
I have zero idea where you got that idea XD
I think someone mentioned it yesterday???
delicate stream
Someone must have gotten confused, lol
honest jolt
helps Sony collect user info surreptitiously
Yup
static flare
did someone say Australia
honest jolt
yes
slim shard
okay, time until someone make a Pico boomerang, wagers?
static flare
I'm the Aussie here haha
honest jolt
Lol sorry for the confusion
static flare
all good
slim shard
google is leading me to believe it hasn't already happened
delicate stream
Xenia, do it!
slim shard
easy hackaday fodder
honest jolt
And post it in #show-and-tell regardless of success!
slim shard
well, you didn't throw the idea, makes sense it never came back to you
honest jolt
||Build a boomerang which lights up and starts flying when you fling it ||
static flare
Ah
slim shard
honestly a CPX is probably a more exciting device to stick to a boomerang, but Pico is cheap and all the rage
static flare
I mean, you probably don't need to use a pico for that
honest jolt
Probably need an accelerometer, some leds, a motor driver, motors, and a lipo to power it all (plus power management board)
slim shard
could use a pico to do some persistence of vision blinkery
delicate stream
Pico for all!
slim shard
what is that strange twisty word coming at me, "duck"?
delicate stream
Oh yeah, @honest jolt , since we've stablished we both live on the same cost of the same country/continent, it might be feasible for me to ship Picos to you, lol
honest jolt
Oh yeah, <@!633764848924229635> , since we've stablished we both live on the sam...
Payment method? Also how would I securely send you my address? (Probably could be solved with P.O. box or something like that)
slim shard
pobox or diffie hellman :-)
delicate stream
PayPal or Venmo would be good for payment, and if you have a P.O. box, that works XD And if you just mean you don't want the entire world to see, you can DM me, lol
honest jolt
Haha that would be nice but it would probably be easier for both of us if I just buy one off Amazon/Adafruit next time I order something from them
Also can you guarantee 3 day shipping like Amazon
delicate stream
Lol, that works too... if they're in stock...
honest jolt
Yea...
delicate stream
I can if you pay for it XD
slim shard
is amazon not scalping the picos?
honest jolt
IDK
late fulcrum
Amazon guarantees the shipping, but not the genuineness
honest jolt
haven't looked
late fulcrum
Then again, they don't guarantee the shipping either
honest jolt
Amazon guarantees the shipping, but not the genuineness
Shipping is a big part
delicate stream
I can certify these are bone fide Pi Picos!
slim shard
9-10 bucks a unit up there
late fulcrum
If I want one in a hurry, I'll just go buy one at the store. Failing that, I'll just buy from DigiKey (overnight shipping if I want it).
honest jolt
I would go to Microcenter but it's such a long drive
I'm being literally scammed here 😂
delicate stream
lol
late fulcrum
If you're buying more than a few, it's cheaper (and faster) from DigiKey (and you you don't get knockoffs). 
tardy badger
If you have a business you could set up a customer account with Raspberry Pi and order cheaper
delicate stream
slim shard
Unit Price $4.00002
tardy badger
I’m planning to go through the process to be an authorized reseller for RPi
slim shard
that swimming pool won't fill itsself
delicate stream
monsters!
tardy badger
A reel of Pico would probably be really expensive to ship
slim shard
cheaper than boxed at same number I suppose
slim shard
then again, someone randomly gave me an adafruit 2040, I think it came in a thin little baggie
tardy badger
I haven’t got an official quote on the basic unit price of the Pico, but I’m guessing it costs RPi like.. $1.25 to make
slim shard
hmm, again, making sense on the whole 2x upsell front
tardy badger
I say this as I know what they sell the chips at when purchased on a 500 pc reel
slim shard
seems like a darned fancy power management system on that board
tardy badger
Yeah
Which I’m telling you, the rp2040 is going to straight dominate the m0 market once they start selling mass market
It’s such a great chip
slim shard
you don't have to tell me, I'm hopping around like a baby bird for these things
tardy badger
And I mean the chip itself, not even just the Pico
The Pico was how they gauged demand, I’m pretty sure of it
slim shard
well, the chip is largely it, though they mounted it well
tardy badger
Oh yes
delicate stream
Pi reseller sounds fun
tardy badger
They used very high temp solder too
slim shard
finally fails to grok something.
delicate stream
grok?
delicate stream
sleep is for the dead
Go hack!
I forget what cromulent means, lol
guessing 'valid'....
slim shard
eh, the popular definition varies from mine, Simpsons made it up for this purpose though
delicate stream
Yeah, I know cromulent was a Simpsons word, lol. I know it's in the Oxford dictionary tho!
slim shard
well, nearly, grok is an actual word
delicate stream
All words are made up
slim shard
O R'lyeh?
delicate stream
yee
late fulcrum
I like the RP2040 more than the Propeller, but it'll be a bit before I like it more than the M0.
delicate stream
Is Propeller still around? I remember seeing those years ago as the high power alternative to Arduino
late fulcrum
They're still around, and only now starting to get away from "you have to learn a whole new language to use our subprocessors" mindset.
TBH, I've had issues with Parallax and their attitudes since the Basic Stamp.
delicate stream
Yyyyyeah... being entirely different and incompatible is why I avoided them. I'm now learning CircuitPython because I need to learn Python anyway, but it's totally compatible with all my hardware and Python isn't too far from what I know anyway
I wonder if microcontrollers will one day be as powerful as modern desktop processors...
tardy badger
I like the RP2040 more than the Propeller, but it'll be a bit before I like it m...
Rp2040 is an M0, are you referring to other M0 MCU?
Well I guess it’s technically an M0+
late fulcrum
Didn't realize it was an M0 core, I was referring to the Atmel SAMD21 used in many AdaFruit products
tardy badger
Dual M0+ core
late fulcrum
Plus the PIOs
late fulcrum
I have a lot of fun with the onboard DACs on the SAMD51
tardy badger
Yeah, I’m making a board with SAME51 that has one of the CAN bus lines broken out
It’ll probably be a while before I actually get to proto it
I’ve got the boards though so just a matter of getting the chips
And a small 32.768kHz crystal
late fulcrum
I would expect the smol 32kHz crystals to be as common as dirt
Drawing on an antique scope using a SAMD51
limber jackal
or Amazon
People have been doing that. I've seen 50$+ for a Pico, couple of jumper wires, maybe some headers and a 1$ breadboard.
limber jackal
a word for youth, I think I heard Danny DeVito use it once
My cousin Vinny. "Deese two yoots"
delicate stream
Maybe I should make kits and sell them on Amazon... but not for $50, that's insane
At least for what you described
Oh, yeah, my Pico doing crazy math showed up on a Windows machine in bootloader, so I was able to nuke it and get CircuitPython up again :D
static flare
People have been doing that. I've seen 50$+ for a Pico, couple of jumper wires, ...
holy balls, i should get into that
dusty citrus
@delicate stream Robert Anson Heinlein word, iirc: grok
Probably Stranger in a Strange Land
Vonnegut would be 2nd choice.
delicate stream
Ah, ok, that's it, sounded familiar
dusty citrus
I don't have a searchable text to confirm. SIASL is like 150-170k words in length.
delicate stream
I haven't actually read Stranger in a Strange Land, but watched a video going over the plot, and remember now that they used that word
limber jackal
I don't have a searchable text to confirm. SIASL is like 150-170k words in lengt...
That's what I recall as well, and Wikipedia seems to confirm it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok
dusty citrus
I was in a sci-fi book club long ago. They shipped a ridiculous amount of books for the entry fee. SIASL was likely one of them. Hardbound books, iirc.
delicate stream
After listening thru the plot of SIASL and that most of his work is in ways similar... I think Heinlein might be too lewd for me
At least his adult-targeted stuff
stone orbit
His early works were not lewd but, yes, he increasingly turned into a "dirty old man". Many of his works were entirely suitable for young adults,
delicate stream
Yeah, might read some of his early stuff... just... SIASL seemed to go from legitimately interesting SciFi question with a potential romance plot to 2lewd4me too fast
dusty citrus
CircuitPython has RP2040 'trinkey' board support. ;)
The QT Py RP2040 is truly small.
Kind of hard to imagine how they got it that small.
delicate stream
static flare
I'm excited to get my QTPy
static flare
QT Py RP2040, I mean
delicate stream
I'M GETTING A NEW 3090 TONIGHT YEET
limber jackal
I'M GETTING A NEW 3090 TONIGHT YEET
There's one mortgage payment!
static flare
I have a 2070
delicate stream
2070 good, I have one of those
static flare
People keep on saying Xena forgetting the I in my name
the peeps on the stream did, most recently
delicate stream
ah
honest jolt
🥳 lucky you!
how much did it cost 👀
also i jealous i get stuck with integrated gpu
delicate stream
coughs almost half as much as the rest of the parts...
Gonna be replacing my fire-starter of an Intel workstation
static flare
What CPU do you use?
delicate stream
5950X
static flare
Oof
delicate stream
Now I get as many cores as my Threadripper.... but with higher clock speed and IPC XD
static flare
I'm jealous
static flare
my setup is decent, tho
delicate stream
What'cha got with the 2070?
static flare
3700X, 8gb RAM (absolutely need more though), 1TB SSD, 5GHz Wi-Fi card, 30 inch curved monitor (roommate gave it to me), and a floppy drive
delicate stream
Hehe, floppy... That's a good gaming machine, short the RAM, certainly need 16GB
static flare
it's for my cyberdeck
static flare
fun
delicate stream
I have an Athlon 3000G for that :D
I dunno why, but having that processor just makes me giggle with glee
how many computers is too many computers
static flare
no
delicate stream
No computers is too many computers? uhoh
honest jolt
~~how many computers is too many computers~~
delicate stream
Any computers is too many computers?! So there's just too many computers no matter what the number
oop that was flashy
static flare
There is n o limit
delicate stream
I need a bigger house
static flare
a funhouse?
delicate stream
velvet pelican
A bigger funhouse... with a bouncy room
delicate stream
And a dungeon!
static flare
isn't that the name King Candy calls the dungeon in Wreck it Ralph?
delicate stream
Yiss
topaz juniper
Oh. My. Gosh. Genius in the house! https://youtu.be/_E0PWQvW-14
honest jolt
Oh. My. Gosh. Genius in the house! https://youtu.be/_E0PWQvW-14
lol I keep getting recommended this video 😂
wild temple
stacksmashing does really awesome videos
delicate stream
Just installed a numpad on my MacBook Air, very happy
polar bloom
But's upside down from a real numpad!
delicate stream
Wait lemme fix it
late fulcrum
I added a useful key to my keyboard
dusty citrus
I want to see how you gouged out the LCD so you can close the lid. ;)
That Option button reminds me of the USB connection symbol, and gave me part of an idea. ;)
delicate stream
All better!
delicate stream
I want to see how you gouged out the LCD so you can close the lid. ;)
Simple solution: I don't close the lid
dusty citrus
@rare zinc I would like to see samples of your C programs for the use of 'extra' curly braces.
static flare
did you destroy a keypad?
dusty citrus
This is an area that interests me keenly - been following too much of the learning-by-(bad)-example model wrt curly braces in the C programming language.
(also my forth word naming skills are .. what's that word .. like travesty. ;)
delicate stream
Simple to open, easily swapped around
dusty citrus
doctor you could glue on spacers so that you can't crush the LCD glass.
(somebody recently said somthing about using glue as a bad habit)
(I have never once owned 'super glue' ever)
(because suspending myself from a construction hat glued to an underbeam was never my first priority, on any day)
OKAY so this is me (in the other room) imaging my new NOOBS SD card to hard disk drive. oi.
delicate stream
Disclaimer: I did not modify my MacBook Air, this was a joke XD
Is there any reason to buy a NOOBS card outside of convenience of being pre-flashed?
dusty citrus
obtw unless I have things wrong, STM32F405 Express went up in price.
late fulcrum
I use curly braces in C even for single statements, it avoids mistakes and makes changes easier to track. It's also clearer for null statements.
delicate stream
I thought EVERYTHING needed braces in C
late fulcrum
Sadly no: many constructions (like if) act on a single statement, which can be a line of code, a semicolon, or multiple statements in braces.
So I'll often see ```c
while (!Serial);
or ```c
if (pressed)
digitalWrite(LED, HIGH);
But I dislike those constructions and prefer to always use braces.
To be fair, I am guilty of writing this atrocity when I was a beginner: ```c
while (*++*argv)
TIL
I always {} everything in C/C++/C# and related languages because I was told it was necessary
late fulcrum
It's one of those things that's a good idea, but technically not strictly necessary.
dusty citrus
Yeah I generally use { } when authoring single-line (one consequence) 'if' constructs, since I thought it up (whatever I wanted done).
I have sometimes conflated 'but it's on the same line!' thinking.
delicate stream
So I could do if $foo then $bar instead of if{$foo} then{$bar}?
dusty citrus
The bigger discovery (for me) was empty braces.
void nop(void) {}
This allows what I think of as top down programming.
delicate stream
bran fart just... variable
dusty citrus
The curly braces help in searches /{ type thing.
(the forward slash initiates a search, in some text editor environments)
late fulcrum
One of my habits is to begin function names in column 1, so I can search for them with ^ but many people dislike the look of the resulting code.
dusty citrus
vim provides delimiter matching (by changing the cursor shape or something like that). Pretty annoying when you need to edit that region, but very useful for catching enclosure errors).
late fulcrum
Here's what my functions look like (for the curious): ```c
static struct coord
drawpoint(
int x,
int y,
char * label)
{
...
Oh boy
dusty citrus
The second instance I cannot adjust to, and will take the trouble to make it the first instance, in borrowed code.
late fulcrum
I used to do that, but reversed my stance after a while, so I'm "correcting" my own old code
dusty citrus
;)
late fulcrum
However, I do still use same-line braces on my if statements
dusty citrus
Yeah it's an unsettled argument between the two nisses.
polar bloom
I always do
void
drawpoint(x, y, label)
int x, y;
char* label;
{
...
😛
dusty citrus
@polar bloom That looks nice.
polar bloom
It's how you needed to do it once upon a time.
delicate stream
I think I tend to swap between { on its own line or not? having it on its own line can make it easier to see where the partner } is in, say, Notepad, but that also makes everything longer
dusty citrus
aha. needed to do it may explain a lot of things I didn't understand when I saw them as variants.
polar bloom
I've switched coding styles more time than I remember. These days I just try to be consistent within a single code base.
dusty citrus
Yeah I agree .. internal consistency in a given code base is what's really important.
late fulcrum
I generally put one variable declaration per line, with a comment for each one explaining what (I think) it is.
delicate stream
I do all the things :D spaces, tabs, brackets on their own line vs. not....
late fulcrum
On the gripping hand, I have been known to enter the IOCCC
dusty citrus
My comments are .. an embarassment; they're why olden books usually began with an apology ;)
I generally do not keep the same indent on compound stuff; I can't resist indenting one more time.
delicate stream
Sometimes I make comments and then forget they're there, change something, add a new comment... and then realize I have a book of useless old comments, lol
dusty citrus
I want the extra indents to say no, it's all part of one idea.
I like
// my comment
on a line by itself, so I can dd it in vim easily.
delicate stream
On the gripping hand, I have been known to enter the IOCCC
IOCCC?
polar bloom
It's a contest for writing really hard to read code.
delicate stream
ah, lol
limber jackal
bran fart just... variable
Interesting typo between "bran" and "brain" in the context of that sentence!
limber jackal
I was typing earlier "I think I need one of those jug/boxes of coffee from Starbucks". Except I typed "jub" accidentally. I think that reinforced the point!
static flare
ooh i need Starbucks right now
limber jackal
braining with the thinker hard
static flare
sadly i am broke and it's also 2:30am
delicate stream
Starbucks too much work and money
static flare
I can get it delivered to my house
delicate stream
That still sounds like a lot of work
static flare
I just realised that I probably won't be able to get my JLCPCB order for a little while cause it accidentally got shipped to my previous place which is in a different state
limber jackal
If I were at the office, I'd have access to their fancy auto-grind-and-brew machines
limber jackal
Ouch, sorry @static flare - Moving sucks 😦
static flare
I moved out December last year, must have forgotten to update my address with JLCPCB, as this is my second PCB order ever (but hopefully not the last, if I end up making kits it definitely won't be)
delicate stream
I never want to move
static flare
eh, I'll probably move at least once more this year
Cause I moved to this place in March, and we're probably going to move again in July
Homelessness sucks sometimes
delicate stream
We should buy you a house
limber jackal
I have a Keurig and reusable pods :D
Used to have those. Then something died (pump? I dunno) and it wouldn't work anymore. This was before I got more seriously into electronics. So for now, it's pour-over, make a pot every morning, mostly
I think in-house barrista on call 24/7 would be optimal
static flare
Used to have those. Then something died (pump? I dunno) and it wouldn't work any...
Those are expensive and I am poor
delicate stream
We're on our second... We wasted SO much coffee with a pot maker
limber jackal
Those are expensive and I am poor
Expensive for sure. Especially the ones that make anything more than 8oz/240ml at a time
static flare
oh whoops
delicate stream
You can get cheap Keurig knockoffs :D
static flare
i did not mean that message
i mean, those are expensive
but i meant a house
houses are expensive
limber jackal
Yeah, those too
static flare
land is still expensive
delicate stream
We can make that too
limber jackal
No land, no problem! Anyone ever see the movie "Up"? I mean, I've seen the movie poster, but I think I get the gist of it!
limber jackal
limber jackal
This may be a bit more maker/eco friendly?
https://sobify.com/mans-floating-island-mexico-using-100000-plastic-bottles/
That's just a loooooot of Soda
limber jackal
Lava? Like volcano lava? The one with vinegar and baking soda? 🤔
delicate stream
No no, the hot melty rock kind
static flare
I'd think you mean magma
delicate stream
Before it's outside, yes, is magma
delicate stream
I'm designing a suit to swim in lava/magma
limber jackal
Sounds cool!
delicate stream
Hopefully it will be in the suit XD
dusty citrus
Please replace the cap on the lava dispenser when you've used your allotment.
late fulcrum
No. If I don't leave it running, it clogs.
delicate stream
Run everything 25/7
delicate stream
Hmmm... This channel keeps showing there's new messages, yet nothing new is there when I check...
I think Discord is derping again
static flare
hmm
delicate stream
I see you now... strangeness
delicate stream
Yeah, I meant that I saw the hmm, lol
honest jolt
👀 You all building an island? Keep me posted 😆
static flare
I wish
delicate stream
SoonTM
stoic mesa
or we could all just become citizens of Sealand:
https://sealandgov.org/
delicate stream
I'm going to take over Sealand
stoic mesa
@delicate streamyou won't be the first one - there was already an attempt to overthrow the legal government and seize Sealand by force
static flare
i think an idea like that would just be sad, they're just being neat over on their island
delicate stream
Actually y'know what I'mma just make my own bigger island, with blackjack and books
honest jolt
you know with all the parts we order as a whole we could make an island using plastic part bags and adafruit boxes
everyone contribute 
delicate stream
When you need to add $10 to an order to get the 0% financing deal but NewEgg's DIY parts selection is crappy
Cue rando 20x2 LCD from Seiko
This is a chonkier boi than I expected
static flare
huh
delicate stream
I dunno what to do with it XD
late fulcrum
Hook it to an Arduino?
delicate stream
Yeah, or a Pico, but like... What to do with it, y'know?
late fulcrum
Monitor your water heater? Alien movie prop? Game of Life with a custom character set?
delicate stream
Game of Life on there sounds like a challenge!
zealous ermine
umbral phoenix
I might have a STEMMA QT problem.
dusk oracle
i too see it now
stoic mesa
Iirc, i2c supports up to 255 devices on one bus...
delicate stream
I just burned myself by leaning on a battery and my watch shorted the contacts
owwww
there was smoke
static flare
oof
delicate stream
Life is danger
static flare
that's the fun of it though!
delicate stream
Catching fire isn't exactly what I consider fun XD
static flare
learning experience
delicate stream
yes... do not leave batteries where they can be leaned on
Thankfully it doesn't seem to have done any serious damage -- insulators on the battery cables melted, arm is burned, but I can replace cables and arm will heal
delicate stream
Soooo.... y'know that Seiko 2x20 LCD I got? Well, I went to go back to the product page to check for a datasheet [thought I saw one on there]... Seller is GONE! Looks like a fly-by-night operation!
Thankfully the datasheet is available
limber jackal
End of the week everyone. You've made it this far, and always remember, you're awesome.
If your spirit needs a bit of a boost to get you through, enjoy this song and video. And never forget - though you may not know by whom, you are loved ❤️
short pulsar
I might have a STEMMA QT problem.
I only see a “too small of desk” problem.
limber jackal
I might have a STEMMA QT problem.
Is it the "gotta collect them all" and availability problem? 🙂
umbral phoenix
I guess 255 is my new aspiration
leaden yoke
I guess 255 is my new aspiration
Unless you start using a few of these: https://www.adafruit.com/product/2717
pearl vigil
Unless you start using a few of these: https://www.adafruit.com/product/2717
Need it anyways to get to 255
2 i2c buses is 254 😁
umbral phoenix
of course I'd have to use the STEMMA QT version https://www.adafruit.com/product/4704
leaden yoke
I was just thinking that there had to be only so much variability in currently manufactured STEMMA devices addresses anyway, so you'd run out of address range before you ran out of devices you could hang off a bus. 🙂 And yeah, oops, 7-bit address space
Ah! There is a Qwiic version of that! My search-fu is weak this morning.
pearl vigil
of course I'd have to use the STEMMA QT version https://www.adafruit.com/product...
That is sparkfun heresy and I wont have it here
delicate stream
So my LCD here has 8 bus lines... but examples only generally use 4... should I bother wiring up those pins? Going to be using wire to connect to a row of pins for breadboard use
leaden yoke
You don't really need all 8
It's a speed thing
4-bit mode is clock high-nibble/low-nibble of the character or control byte, so it's slower to use than clocking 8 bits at a time, but for most intents and purposes, 4 bits will work just fine.
so unless you REALLY like using up 8 contiguous I/O off your microcontroller, or want to get a shift register involved or something, there's not a lot of point.
at least IMHO
delicate stream
Ah... Yeah, it doesn't need to go ZOOM ZOOM, so as long as it's not a hugely noticeable difference, 4 should be fine. A few fractions of a second isn't a big deal, lol
Should it be bus lines 0-3, or 4-7?
leaden yoke
This is the part where I say "what do the examples or docs show?" 🙂
(I mean, I'll tell you if you get stumped, just want to encourage answer finding. 🙂 )
delicate stream
They have "LCD Pin X" in the guide, but I'm not sure if it's the same pinout
leaden yoke
Fair enough
spice moss
as water pic was shared realier
leaden yoke
So I need to plunk myself down on what is promising to be a long zoom call here in a minute, so I'll hook you up, it's D4-7.
delicate stream
Ok, cool. Thanks :D Godspeed!
zenith wolf
anyone else want to share in the feels of apparently being the last name on the list to ship out the adabox? 😿
zenith wolf
bummer
delicate stream
There's always next time
zenith wolf
I was hoping it would be here for the weekend. Maybe next weekend....
static flare
My last Adafruit order was supposed to be delivered early this week, Friday at the latest... It's currently 4am on Saturday :(
zenith wolf
Perhaps they need to stop everything and develop the transporter.
spice moss
harder the things still is for transport deals as pandemic still is upon us all still
my relatives saw 2 vipers yesterday on they cabin
delicate stream
I'm working on a transporter, but so far have only gotten so far as non-explosive dematerialization... haven't gotten down patterns storage yet
pearl vigil
I was sent this new Arduino board, no idea what to do with it 😆 Yes the black board is an official arduino board
swift hatch
delicate stream
static flare
The most annoying part of testing things is not having the things to test
delicate stream
mood
static flare
you know why I'm complaining
delicate stream
Indeed
zenith wolf
Preparing for Shipment Shipment Order automatically generated for ADABOX_18
darn...
This probably means that more people than me are going to have to wait because something didn't show up in time.
delicate stream
Apparently I can still order in time to get box 18 :D
lapis bluff
End of the week everyone. You've made it this far, and always remember, you're a...
Reminded me of some old Honey Maid commercials, one about families of all shapes. That got some negative response, so they did another commercial where they did essentially an art installation with print outs of the bad responses and the overwhelmingly larger number of positive responses. The neg were used to spell out "Love" in the center of a large background of the positive responses. Searching "Honey Maid Commercial" on Youtube showed them (to me) as the #1 and #3 results.
static flare
All of my stuff is moved to where I live now!
I finally have access to my 3D printer
burnt tendon
RAIN CATTO
dusty citrus
Anyone know what this little oring is for?
zealous forge
@dusty citrus It looks like you'd place the bluish-white sticker on a servo, then drill a hole in the black piece, install the o-ring on the servo, then adhere the servo to the black piece. The screws are most likely to mount the black piece to your project in some way.
static flare
without knowing what everything else is for, it's kinda just a guess
delicate stream
Waiting patiently is haaaaarrrrrddddd
static flare
mooood
delicate stream
The biggest mood
I DUNNO IF I CAN MAKE IT TO TUESDAY
that's also assuming the original estimated delivery is correct, nobody has touched my order yet
Why didn't I order sooneerrrrrrrrr
late fulcrum
I'm rubbish at waiting patiently - I know, I'll start another project!
delicate stream
Lol
tardy badger
I don’t appreciate getting called out like this lol
Accurate depiction of me finding a new product ideal I want to make
tardy badger
Who's calling you out? I'm talking about me XD
@late fulcrum is lol
static flare
I want all the Trinkeys, but I have no idea what to do with them
I'm just gonna collect them
late fulcrum
I got a pIRkey but I don't know what I'll do with it - maybe just "collect"
delicate stream
The sneaky easy way to get our muns: collectibles!
tardy badger
whoops
delicate stream
"do you think it still works?"
static flare
what is going on there
delicate stream
Extreme overclocking
Someone just reminded me of the whole USB 3.x renaming thing and I am very GRRRRR again
delicate stream
So... We had USB 3.0, 5GBPS. Then they came out with a 10GBPS version, but instead of calling it 3.1 [not enough to be 4.0], they renamed 3.0 to 3.1 Gen 1 and called the 10GBPS 3.1 Gen 2. Then they did it AGAIN when they developed a 20GBPS link, and renamed the 5GBPS a second time from 3.1 Gen 1 to 3.2 Gen 1, renamed the 10GBPS 3.1 Gen 2 to 3.2 Gen 2, and called the 20GBPS one 3.2 Gen 2x2! So they renamed one thing TWICE and another once, and then had a new name that made the least sense, instead of just having 5GBPS = 3.0, 10GBPS = 3.1, and 20GBPS = 3.2!
static flare
wait so with each iteration they rename the slower ones?
delicate stream
YES
static flare
but why
static flare
So USB 3.0, USB 3.1 Gen 1, and USB 3.2 Gen 1 are the same thing?
delicate stream
YES ISN'T THAT DUMB
static flare
And why is it USB 3.2 Gen 2x2?
delicate stream
Because it's 2 x 10GBPS pairs, but that's not obvious from just seeing all those numbers!
You should never rename a standard in the first place as far as I'm concerned
static flare
okay, I'm doing some reading up on it, it's still nonsense but it's at least misguided nonsense
delicate stream
And then there's also the next gen! USB4 NO SPACE IN THERE, WE'RE DONE WITH SPACES
I want to know what fumes they were breathing in during the naming meetings
Seriously... We had a great life. We had USB 1.0, then some improvements was 1.1; USB 2.0 was a HUGE difference in speed and all. USB 3.0 was another huge leap, made sense. Adding 3.1 for 10GBPS and 3.2 for 20GBPS would have been so simple... And then USB 4.0 for the next big revision
zenith wolf
Why didn't I order sooneerrrrrrrrr
I ordered a day or so before the drop, got the email/order info on May 6 when 18 released and mine is still "preparing for shipment"
delicate stream
For AdaBox18? I'm not sure I'll get that at all -- I was referring to my regular order of all the things XD Which hasn't been touched because I ordered after they had left for the day
zenith wolf
For AdaBox18? I'm not sure I'll get that at all -- I was referring to my regular...
yep, adabox18
delicate stream
So about 9 days before me, not sure if I'm gonna get lucky XD
I have an AdaBox15 in my order tho!
tardy badger
Croutons first and then they’ll beautifully transform into breadcrumbs for chicken parm
velvet pelican
Croutons first and then they’ll beautifully transform into breadcrumbs for chick...
Can u just borrow that pan with those on it and return it empty? 😂 croutons on salad are great
static flare
sounds yum
tardy badger
It will be 🙂
stoic mesa
Did you do that in a proper reflow oven, following the temperature profile?
wild temple
So is homemade chicken parm
that's "chicken parm"?
and yes, i googled it, and it just looks like chicken with red sauce and a ton of different stuff :/
pearl vigil
that's "chicken parm"?
Croutons first and then they’ll beautifully transform into breadcrumbs for chicken parm
Chicken parmigiana, or chicken parmesan, is a dish that consists of breaded chicken breast covered in tomato sauce and mozzarella, parmesan, or provolone cheese. A quantity of ham or bacon is sometimes added.
pearl vigil
There is a shop in front of my work that sells chicken parm in a sub roll, its carbs on top of carbs and I almost need to take a post lunch break nap but dang its good
pearl vigil
Beautiful cross section
Yummy, stop it I had wisdom teeth removed and cant eat much. You made me more hungry than I was a moment ago...
tardy badger
It’s anniversary night so no dishes 🙂
pearl vigil
Haha
tardy badger
Well, plates anyway
tardy badger
Did you do that in a proper reflow oven, following the temperature profile?
Only the best reflow oven lol
25 minutes, tossed around 15 minutes in
zealous ermine
i dislocated my jaw today!
delicate stream
fun times...
I went to breakfast in a restaurant
It was somewhat anxiety-ridden, but less so because I'm vaccinated
delicate stream
When you need a NeoPixel on a breadboard but don't have any breakouts
static flare
do they even sell breakouts?
delicate stream
Well, breadboard friendly ones
tardy badger
Yeah they do 🙂
delicate stream
I just can't afford to buy more after that order XD I haven't even gotten that one yet
tardy badger
makes sense
i'm going to make little neopixel thingys since i've got a bunch of them left lol
delicate stream
I have 200 coming, lol
tardy badger
i have like... 1350 left
lol
well, maybe 1368
or 1367 i am not 100% sure how many i've used.
i need to keep a spreadsheet going
delicate stream
Lol
zealous ermine
It was designed for a first robotics competition, and it shoots dodgeballs
It can shoot them pretty hard
It has a 50psi pneumatic system for aiming
delicate stream
Nice! Nearly ready for war >:3
zealous ermine
The biggest issue is overheating motors, but im not sure how to fix that
delicate stream
Ah... Any cooling right now? Are they encased?
delicate stream
Unrelated, I made risotto!
limber jackal
or 1367 i am not 100% sure how many i've used.
And surely the carpet has taken its cut as well
delicate stream
lol
I've somehow only lost 1 NeoPixel... which was a "huge" problem when I was working on a project where I needed 10 and only had 10
But I bought 100 replacements so it's ok
tardy badger
And surely the carpet has taken its cut as well
Surprisingly not lol
stoic mesa
@zealous ermine nice!
Didn't know you are in FRC
tardy badger
Just ordered some beautiful afterdark boards for a product I’m bringing to my shop beginning of June
6 boards, $20.50. Will be the 5x10 PixelLeaf Branch RGB matrix
delicate stream
afterdark?
tardy badger
Changed it to have a single data line since I realize that trying to do something with a data line on each row just isn’t computationally productive
Afterdark PCB is black substrate with clear solder mask
delicate stream
ah, I like those
delicate stream
Noice
tardy badger
and they'll sell for $14.95 a piece
and should be compatible with existing neopixel matrix libraries
delicate stream
:D
delicate stream
Nice
tardy badger
there's also a jumper to bypass the data line resistor (you'll want to remove the resistor as well) to connect more than 1 in a row
your limit will obviously be your power supply
delicate stream
I want to have a billion NeoPixels
delicate stream
hehe, yeah
zealous ermine
<@280477088958382080> nice!
Didn't know you are in FRC
yeah! I'm in FRC!
delicate stream
FRC?
stoic mesa
I am FTC coach
zealous ermine
very cool!
stoic mesa
FTC is done for the season
zealous ermine
same with FRC
all i do now is drive the robot around at school
and do demos for the freshmen
pearl vigil
When I was in school we had this really short kid named carl who during off season turned the FRC robot into his personal tank to drive around school
Thing fit in the elevator so A+
delicate stream
First Robotics Competition
ah
zealous ermine
When I was in school we had this really short kid named carl who during off seas...
LOL that's what i did!
i got a desk chair and ratchet strapped it to the robot
pearl vigil
That is basically what he did 😆 One of those stereotypical plastic flimsy blue ones
zealous ermine
pearl vigil
zealous ermine
here's our video
skip to the end to see my friend napping in a wheel chair after 4 hours of work
static flare
I think my MAX619 boards are finally going to arrive
tardy badger
Oh yay
I love getting shipping notices
Good news is my EPD displays will be here in the next few days
Bad news is I procrastinated and didn’t design any carrier prototypes
static flare
I think my MAX619 boards are finally going to arrive
they're... smaller than I thought
what am i even going to do with the other 4 of these good lord
note to self: in future, don't make yourself solder in individual headers
late fulcrum
For soldering individual headers, I put them into a solderless breadboard to hold them straight(ish) and at the proper spacing.
late fulcrum
Bleah. They are appealing boards.
static flare
are you saying you like my design?
late fulcrum
Yes, that is what I'm saying.
Machine pin DIP headers exist, I wonder if that would make it easier to solder.
static flare
thanks!
late fulcrum
There is also this odd but useful product https://www.evilmadscientist.com/2016/fliptronics-flip-pins/
static flare
now is a great time for me to realise i dont know where my MAX619 chip actually is
proceeds to immediately find it
very tall once the chip, socket, and the electrolytic caps are in
now all i need to do, is to test it
tardy badger
Oh cool little board
static flare
i should have added an indicator or something to this
it's... very not doing anything
at least the capacitors aren't exploding
it's a charge pump
it works!
3.3v input, 5v output
tardy badger
Nice, I have a charge pump inverter that produces down to -5V
Only 50mA of current though
Usually enough to bias an op amp
static flare
i... don't know how much current i can draw from this
but I'd say at peak 330mA, if I draw from the regulator, or if I draw from VBAT, it'll be higher (and probably for longer, as I don't need to convert down to convert back up again)
delicate stream
I dunno what I'm most excited for in this order
But I do love the idea of using my old TFT LCD touch shield I'd gotten for Arduino on the Metro M0 Express, since I imagine I'll get better performance :D
late fulcrum
I decided to attempt a power converter too, but for the first time, I'm going to attempt to wind my own transformer. I've long regarded magnetics as sort of a black art, and avoided anything where I needed to wind thousands of turns of fragile thin wire, but this design only needs a few dozen turns of fairly robust wire so I'm going to give it a try.
tardy badger
I’ve always wanted to make a crude step down transformer
120:5 winding pattern
Test it out on a GFCI circuit just in case I get the windings wrong
late fulcrum
I was given some encouragement by an article in Elektor that specified which core and former to use, what kind of transformer tape and wire, how to wind it, and some of the background behind it. Turns out the parts are inexpensive and available via DigiKey so I figured I'd give it a try.