#general-chat | adafruit | Page 8

orchid zephyr Oct 9, 2022, 10:02 PM

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I’d love to get a NeXT

crystal ore Oct 9, 2022, 10:13 PM

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I used to have a NeXT Cube, though I didn't use it for much. Definitely ahead of its time.

burnt tendon Oct 9, 2022, 10:36 PM

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Oh yeah, my brother was super-into BeOS and even did some app ports.

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He never had the BeBox, just a compatible PowerPC system.

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I guess the big thing about GPIO ports out of a PC is that the problems you have with GPIO ports from a Pi is amplified. Easy to turn on and off relays slowly, as soon as you try to bitbang a serial protocol you run into interupt latency and concurrency and everything problems.

solar kindle Oct 9, 2022, 10:38 PM

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You could always make a mini replica of a NeXT with a Raspberry Pi inside. https://www.ninamakes.co.uk/builds/next-computer-replica-raspberry-pi-case/

NeXT Computer Replica - Raspberry Pi Case

This build is a 10cm x 10cm x 10cm replica of the NeXT Computer to house a Raspberry Pi computer. I designed and built this specifically with the aim of having it run some basic server tasks on my home network, such as storing revision control repositories etc.

burnt tendon Oct 9, 2022, 10:38 PM

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(IIRC there are technically GPIO ports on the chipset it's just that you generally don't see them broken out for things you can get at)

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But my new motherboard has ports to drive NeoPixels, so I guess I could replicate the BeOS CPU monitor display on the front, it's just that also it's got 8+4 cores and 20 threads.

orchid zephyr Oct 9, 2022, 10:40 PM

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All of the chipsets apple experimented with before PowerPC were super cool

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Although calling them chipsets is definitely anachronistic

night crescent Oct 9, 2022, 10:45 PM

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Desk of Ladyada - TFT's Galore! https://youtu.be/gaaKtn9Ges4

YouTube

Adafruit Industries

Desk of Ladyada - TFT's Galore!

This week at Ladyada's desk, we focused on a big TFT revision sweep - we have a new TFT supplier that can get us back to the prices we used to get. In addition to the existing TFTs we use, we also got a bunch of samples of new displays such as ones with capacitive touch. While we're at it, we're also redesigning ...

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burnt tendon Oct 10, 2022, 12:16 AM

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Well, not that bad. Chipsets started being a thing in the days of the 286 when Chips & Technologies released the NEAT Chipset in the 86-87 timeframe.

rapid geode Oct 10, 2022, 12:50 AM

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8086 was a chip "set" when you got the co processor

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🙂

gusty torrent Oct 10, 2022, 2:08 AM

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Well, if you consider things like the family of support chips for the 6502, 8080, Z-80, etc. its not such a stretch to call them chipsets.

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 11:51 AM

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Bunnycam upgrades acquired! 😁👍

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 2:04 PM

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The company I work for is putting everyone in the company on the 9/80 schedule which is where you work 44 hours one week, and 36 the next with an “off Friday” every other Friday.

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And a lot of the engineers in my organization work 4-10 schedules where we are off every Friday. And it’s fun to see Corp try to make 26, 3 day weekends sound better than 52, 3 day weekends lol

rapid geode Oct 10, 2022, 2:31 PM

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my industry wants the 24/7 schedule

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 2:32 PM

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I'm already on a 24/7/365 rota, doing 4-on/4-off. 11.5 hour shifts.

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 2:33 PM

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I noticed 9/80 is pretty common among defense contractors, would be nice if it became more widespread in other tech sectors…

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 2:33 PM

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Which is nice.. book 4 off, get 12. Lol

hasty quarry Oct 10, 2022, 3:08 PM

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Gonna self study hyperbolic trigonometry, the college board is boring and AP Calculus BC isn't teaching me anything yet

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What do you guys know about hyperbolic trig? It looks curious

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 3:10 PM

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thick wind I noticed 9/80 is pretty common among defense contractors, would be nice if it b...

A lot are moving to 9/80; my Org prefers 4-10 though. We were told business as usual even if our schedule says 9/80 lol

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 3:24 PM

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hasty quarry What do you guys know about hyperbolic trig? It looks curious

Sounds like an exaggeration to me.. I wouldn't take it seriously.

rapid geode Oct 10, 2022, 3:27 PM

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blissful roost I'm already on a 24/7/365 rota, doing 4-on/4-off. 11.5 hour shifts.

80-100 hours a week, 6-7 days was common in my industry. Often contracts were 50h a week minimum.

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 3:27 PM

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Fun! 😐

rapid geode Oct 10, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Enjoy your movies!

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:x

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haha

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Ohh, I do... My job is known as the "Netflix and chill" role, as a literal.. not a metaphor. Lol

rapid geode Oct 10, 2022, 3:29 PM

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games was worse, where youd get chastised or even fired for not doig 100h a week

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but the law clamped down on them

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legally 44 hours is maximum here, with overtime as option. meaning they cant just fire me for not doing 45+ hours. they should be hiring another person

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seems to be much less abuse these days. we get crunch times of a few weeks working 60 hours, but not much more than that

hasty quarry Oct 10, 2022, 3:35 PM

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blissful roost Sounds like an exaggeration to me.. I wouldn't take it seriously.

What do you mean

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 3:35 PM

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Wordplay...

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Hyperbole.

hasty quarry Oct 10, 2022, 3:35 PM

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Oh my gosh

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 3:35 PM

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Sorry. 😁

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 3:36 PM

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hasty quarry What do you guys know about hyperbolic trig? It looks curious

I guess the better question would be what would you like to know about it?

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It’s not particularly useful from a general education perspective, but has some interesting applications in high-level physics and mathematics, from what I know.

dusty citrus Oct 10, 2022, 3:38 PM

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I don't want to be annoying
but there aren't really there cheap, low volume hobbist ic manufacturers? or even something diyish

I thought about using demultiplexers but the array would bee too big

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 3:38 PM

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dusty citrus I don't want to be annoying but there aren't really there cheap, low volume hobb...

What are you trying to accomplish?

dusty citrus Oct 10, 2022, 3:45 PM

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thick wind What are you trying to accomplish?

I can't say
but basically powering up an huge array of things

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 3:46 PM

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I’m going to preface this with “Multiplexer chips are not typically intended for power delivery” just in case.

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Are you trying to establish control of a large number of devices?

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How many different control inputs do you need, and do you have hardware restrictions on how you control said inputs?

hasty quarry Oct 10, 2022, 3:50 PM

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thick wind I guess the better question would be what would you like to know about it?

Math has become a light hobby of mine

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 3:51 PM

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Math and Hobby are not two words you would generally see associated with each other.

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Lol

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I’m glad you enjoy it though

hasty quarry Oct 10, 2022, 3:52 PM

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I define a hobby as an interest that's challenging in an engaging way

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I care more for it and know more about it than most people I personally know would care to, I just find it beautiful

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 3:53 PM

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I wish I had your desire for math. For me it was just a hurdle for my degree. I know it’s value but generally don’t enjoy it

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 3:53 PM

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hasty quarry Math has become a light hobby of mine

That’s awesome, but doesn’t really answer my question haha

hasty quarry Oct 10, 2022, 3:53 PM

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Well, the people around me anyway. When I get to college I'm sure I'll meet people with similar interest

dusty citrus Oct 10, 2022, 3:54 PM

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thick wind How many different control inputs do you need, and do you have hardware restrict...

the devices are thousands
each devices has one single input (for power)
I need something cheap that is able to controll them individually and at the same time, and that's why at first I thought at demultiplexers
transistors might work, but they are too expensive (and big)

hasty quarry Oct 10, 2022, 3:54 PM

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thick wind That’s awesome, but doesn’t really answer my question haha

Hmmmmm, I guess that's true

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I'd just rather understand it well before concluding there's not much to be said about it if that's true

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 3:56 PM

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dusty citrus the devices are thousands each devices has one single input (for power) I need s...

Not sure about your power requirements, but something like a display driver might be a good place to start? If you consider a display to be an array of thousands of individual pixels, a display controller is usually configured to control each one of them independently and semi-synchronously.

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 4:00 PM

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hasty quarry I'd just rather understand it well before concluding there's not much to be said...

From a low-level understanding, the formulas for each ratio are pretty straightforward. Instead of the ratio of sides of a right angle, sinh() and cosh() are based on e^x +/- e^-x, and a lot of the other identities are analogous if not identical.

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Sinh(x)+cosh(x) simplifies to e^x, while sinh(x)-cosh(x) simplifies to e^-x.

hasty quarry Oct 10, 2022, 4:01 PM

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Right, I have the identities now just from how similar they are to circular trig, but I kind of wonder how they tie into a unit hyperbola, and why that input is related to that area above the hyperbola

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Vaguely similar to Euler’s

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Applications on a higher level, however, are aspects I’m not as familiar with, but a lot of the interactions between these values can be interesting

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Not quite but I see a small resemblance

dusty citrus Oct 10, 2022, 4:02 PM

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thick wind Not sure about your power requirements, but something like a display driver migh...

few volts really, they are more or less equal to leds
I checked up display drivers but they look too expensive
can I ask why are demultiplexers not intended for power delivery?

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 4:03 PM

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Logic circuits just tend to not have as much current carrying capabilities as components intended to deliver power.

hollow blaze Oct 10, 2022, 4:14 PM

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anyone willing to jump on voice chat and help me understand Inverted OP amps and "virtual ground".

Need to use this technique for my project and want to clear up some misunderstanings I'm having conceptually.

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 4:21 PM

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hollow blaze anyone willing to jump on voice chat and help me understand Inverted OP amps and...

Can’t VC in the office, but the gist of this should be that when you have a feedback line or resistor connecting your op-amp output to your negative input, the op-amp will continuously compare its voltage output (via the negative terminal) to the positive terminal’s voltage, eventually reaching an equilibrium when the negative terminal voltage is equal to the positive terminal voltage.

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 4:23 PM

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hollow blaze anyone willing to jump on voice chat and help me understand Inverted OP amps and...

KhanAcademy has a video about it too

thick wind Oct 10, 2022, 4:24 PM

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This is especially useful in cases where you want a voltage reference that’s unaffected by other input impedances, something a resistor divider alone struggles with.

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 4:24 PM

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https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/ee-amplifiers/ee-opamp/v/ee-inverting-opamp

Khan Academy

Inverting op-amp (video) | Amplifiers | Khan Academy

We analyze the inverting op-amp configuration, doing all the algebra from first principles.

gusty torrent Oct 10, 2022, 4:44 PM

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I'm on a nominal 37.5 hour work week with core hours from 11am-3:30pm, but subject to on-call 24/7/365 and I don't get overtime until I hit 50 total hours in a week (there's a loophole in the labor law that allows this legally before it gets mentioned).

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 5:12 PM

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gusty torrent I'm on a nominal 37.5 hour work week with core hours from 11am-3:30pm, but subje...

Wow 😳

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I get straight pay for overtime after 40hrs but it has to be approved

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 5:17 PM

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For me, OT is OT.. rates vary depending on TOD.

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Also.. Pine64 RISC-V.. https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Ox64

PINE64

Ox64

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Noice

gusty torrent Oct 10, 2022, 5:30 PM

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tardy badger I get straight pay for overtime after 40hrs but it has to be approved

The way they get around it is structuring the pay such that it includes an overtime allowance that applies to the first 12.5 overtime hours a week whether they're worked or not.

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I actually work fairly little overtime under normal circumstances FWIW

blissful roost Oct 10, 2022, 5:32 PM

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I can only pick up OT when it becomes available, like covering holiday time.. or assisting other teams.

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I don't do extra hours on top of my shift.

gusty torrent Oct 10, 2022, 5:32 PM

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I only think I ever hit the 50 hour threshold once in the 5 years its been in effect.

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Not really fussed about it at all, given I can (by my own choice) work a 7am-3:30pm shift 3 days a week in the office (and totally avoiding rush hours) and the other 2 from home.

tardy badger Oct 10, 2022, 5:40 PM

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I’ve voluntarily worked OT the last few weeks when I can because paychecks be not covering everything lately

dusty citrus Oct 10, 2022, 6:07 PM

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I was making an adapter on kicad just for exercising
but since the two parts at a first look do share the same pins
isn't there like an automated way to connect those vs labeling/wiring them manually?

edgy apex Oct 10, 2022, 10:22 PM

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I got the talking Mac SE circuitpython code working on a picow blobsmilehappyeyes

tardy badger Oct 11, 2022, 5:03 PM

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Some random investment company: “when’s your deadline to raise your next round?”

Me: “never? I’m bootstrapping my company because hardware is a hard and risky business.”

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Also recession is looking more and more likely at this point which means it isn’t a super great idea to do heavy investing in hardware

rapid geode Oct 11, 2022, 5:53 PM

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investing in anything seems a poor idea right now. along with taking on big loans / mortgages.

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gotta wait 3-5 years

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my new product luckily (i thnk) i can just do with cash in small batches to start.

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we'll see how it goes

dusty citrus Oct 11, 2022, 6:27 PM

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I hate drawing on kicad for stuff like symbols and foot prints
can't I like draw in any cad and then import then use them in kicad?

tardy badger Oct 11, 2022, 6:29 PM

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dusty citrus I hate drawing on kicad for stuff like symbols and foot prints can't I like draw...

Look on UltraLibrarian and SnapEDA. Sometimes they have the footprint you need

late fulcrum Oct 11, 2022, 6:48 PM

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dusty citrus I hate drawing on kicad for stuff like symbols and foot prints can't I like draw...

Probably: KiCAD can import many formats. It's also possible to just generate KiCAD compatible files, the formats are pretty simple.

weary fiber Oct 11, 2022, 8:11 PM

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may <insert deity> have mercy on my code reviewers

tardy badger Oct 11, 2022, 8:25 PM

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weary fiber may <insert deity> have mercy on my code reviewers

Insert comments of “these should have been sub tasks and separate PRs”

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I work in defense so PRs like this are normal lol

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But personally, I would prefer massive changes like that be broken down into sub tasks and have an integration branch that then gets merged into production

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It’s hard though because software hard

weary fiber Oct 11, 2022, 8:27 PM

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unfortunately, this change is annoyingly hard to split up. It's a name change on the attribute of an entityType, which is used throughout the front & backend

tardy badger Oct 11, 2022, 8:28 PM

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Yeah, now imagine that having to propagate through 30+ repos and having to merge everything in the right order so you get the artifacts you need for the next build lol…

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I did that once

weary fiber Oct 11, 2022, 8:29 PM

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that sounds awful lmao

tardy badger Oct 11, 2022, 8:29 PM

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That’s what happens when you have a message in a common message repo that have to be changed and updated in an entire project

dusty citrus Oct 11, 2022, 9:13 PM

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late fulcrum Probably: KiCAD can import many formats. It's also possible to just generate K...

kicad on the footprint editor if I go to file/import/graphic then svg I get "No graphic items found in file"

weird saving on inkscape and then exporting from there it works

blissful roost Oct 11, 2022, 9:15 PM

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weary fiber may <insert deity> have mercy on my code reviewers

I see your issue...

Too much .JS 😅

soft hound Oct 11, 2022, 9:45 PM

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@swift hatch The latest product pick of the week thumbnail is an absolute masterpiece 🤣

swift hatch Oct 11, 2022, 9:45 PM

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Thanks kindly 😃

blissful roost Oct 11, 2022, 9:47 PM

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Got my grubby mitts on this DVR/IP camera set. 😁

static flare Oct 11, 2022, 9:48 PM

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ooh

blissful roost Oct 11, 2022, 9:48 PM

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2x IR cameras, which it claims will do 1280x1024.

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Just hoping it will do RTSP for Twitch streaming. 😅

static flare Oct 11, 2022, 9:50 PM

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fun!

blissful roost Oct 11, 2022, 9:51 PM

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Ohh, should be.. I can finally get the bunny stream working again. 🥰

iron jetty Oct 11, 2022, 10:00 PM

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Is there a basic breakdown on LEDs and control boards if I want to re-introduce myself to using LEDs

ancient rivet Oct 11, 2022, 10:36 PM

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maybe a place to start?
https://learn.adafruit.com/all-about-leds

tardy badger Oct 11, 2022, 11:02 PM

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Closest I got this season to a Ruby red watermelon

rapid geode Oct 11, 2022, 11:22 PM

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oooh little melons

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i made thanksgivign blueberry tarts

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sady from store bought canned blueberrie

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and i overfilled them

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:x

tardy badger Oct 11, 2022, 11:27 PM

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rapid geode oooh little melons

The melon was pretty close to store sized long watermelon

rapid geode Oct 11, 2022, 11:29 PM

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oh

tardy badger Oct 11, 2022, 11:29 PM

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It was hefty to carry

rapid geode Oct 11, 2022, 11:40 PM

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i want dinner but my kitchen is off limits for a few days. ripping out the floor

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pizza day?

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no delivery today!

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bah

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thats really annoying haha

dusty citrus Oct 11, 2022, 11:58 PM

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tardy badger Closest I got this season to a Ruby red watermelon

ps: you can caramelize the skin by using lime (Calcium hydroxide), it's very yummy, it's called gliko

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 12:01 AM

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Interesting 🤔

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Might have to give it a shot

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I thought about pickling the rind

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 12:09 AM

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also if you happen to have immature walnuts still in the green fruit like form, try to do the same, caramelized they are even more yummy
but you should bathe them first on water to get rid of bitterness

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special note, because they are my favorite variation 😅

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 2:31 AM

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Ordered a telescope for my son for Christmas. Should be fun

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:33 AM

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9 more days until I can order my PC upgrades. 😁

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:33 AM

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9 days? why not now?

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:33 AM

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Payday

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:33 AM

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ah

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payday is this week for me. i can buy a water heater

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ha

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:35 AM

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That's an odd thing to buy... Household, or?

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:35 AM

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yeah. i have a very small temp one. need to finally get a real one.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 AM

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Ahh.. makes sense.

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Did the old one die?

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 AM

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they are surprisingly expensive for a cylinder with some foam in it

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the old system was a boiler for heat and hot water running on gas. i removed the entire thing

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now i have electric heat and water heater

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on the bright side i did manage to sell the old one for like $2000. so all the new stuff is basically a free trade off.

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i need to instal my smart thermostat soon as well

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:39 AM

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Dayum

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Glad I don't have to worry about all that... Yet.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:40 AM

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ha yeah its annoying this week is new floors. that worked out well too. found someone selling leftovers for $2 a foot. and then i sold a vintage bicycle part the same day for almost the same amount of money

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ha

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:40 AM

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😁👍

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:41 AM

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got lucky lately

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which is good, cause my old floor i spent a lot of time and money on and its now in the trash bin

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:41 AM

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I should buy a new bike, but that's expensive for a good one.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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yeah. theres some good sales on though

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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Not here. Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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where are you?

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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UK

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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thats what i though. theres some good sales on

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i get all my stuff from the uk

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:43 AM

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When I do eventually move to the US, I'll build my own bike.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:44 AM

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like so

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:45 AM

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Too high in the front for me.

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And too expensive. Lmao

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:45 AM

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O_o

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backs away

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:45 AM

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More like that

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:46 AM

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ew no

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:46 AM

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You ain't building it!! 😂

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:46 AM

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twins

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:47 AM

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Not a fan of those low frames.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:47 AM

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why?

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:48 AM

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Just don't like it.. doesn't look right to me.
Especially with that extended seat post.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:49 AM

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the seat post is adjustable. goes up and down 200mm. for going down steep hills

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:50 AM

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I'm more about road, with flexibility to go off-road.

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Not about that hill life.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:50 AM

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blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:51 AM

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Ohh, definitely not!
That look requires lycra and I'm too old for that. 😅

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:51 AM

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hahaha

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that one is weird

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:52 AM

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Lol
For sure.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:53 AM

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also 2500 pounds

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:53 AM

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Heck, naw!

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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thats what a cheap basic bike costs these days

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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Narp.. "cheap" is £200. Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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200 is some tires

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maybe

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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But I'd expect a build to cost me around 2k

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:55 AM

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making your own will cost over 1000 just for the frame

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:55 AM

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Yup

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So, about right for me.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:55 AM

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then another 2-4k for parts

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it was better a few years ago. but lately everything is super overpriced

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:56 AM

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I might consider making some of the parts.. but that may well push up the pricing.

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I'll definitely make the frame.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:57 AM

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blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:57 AM

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I do need to practice welding again, but that's easy.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 2:57 AM

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thats what bike companies think is normal over here now

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 2:57 AM

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Lmao

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Yeah, naw.

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That's jokes.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:03 AM

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I just remember my Dutch friends telling me how absurd spandex outfits and racing bikes were and how they are just way to practical to ever use one then one of my Dutch friends is driving with me from Brussels to Amsterdam and what's the first thing I see when we enter the Dutch cycling paradise? A pack of spandex-clad road cyclists on racing bikes.

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:03 AM

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Not liking the current fad for thicc frames, I love the slim look of steel framed bikes.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:04 AM

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Still not seeing anything from payroll about my overtime claims, but apparently I shouldn't until my payslip is produced. 😐

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:04 AM

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late fulcrum Not liking the current fad for thicc frames, I love the slim look of steel frame...

I'll be going for aluminium myself.. not sure on tube sizing though.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:05 AM

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Aluminum needs the thicc tubes.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:05 AM

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Oh, I know my metallurgy. 😁

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:05 AM

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Yeah, aluminum and carbon fiber are popular, but steel's strength lets you do swoopy curves and slim pipes.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 AM

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I prefer a little on the thiccer side, as my wife will attest. Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 AM

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late fulcrum Not liking the current fad for thicc frames, I love the slim look of steel frame...

if by current fad you mean the last 30 years of all bikes? 🙂

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 AM

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Yup.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 AM

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Dono, hoping that the physical therapy starts to work so I can ride again, ugh.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 AM

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steel still needs to be fat which makes it very heavy

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 AM

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To be fair, my current ride is aluminum, mostly because I wanted a nice one on the cheap, and that was what was available used.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 AM

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I really want a titanium frame for my road bike because... titanium.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:07 AM

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Yikes money...

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:07 AM

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ti frames can be had for less than steel these days

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:07 AM

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Steel doesn't need to be fat, there are some beautiful steel frames out there.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:07 AM

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cause steel has become super nich custom mostly

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:07 AM

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burnt tendon I really want a titanium frame for my road bike because... titanium.

I'll see if I can donate my dad's knees. 🤣

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:08 AM

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late fulcrum Steel doesn't need to be fat, there are some beautiful steel frames out there.

depends how you define fat. columbus steel tubing is now using 44mm down tubes, vs 31.8mm in the 80's

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they arent even round anymore either

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:09 AM

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I can see how people would be bent out of shape over that.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:09 AM

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people get nostalgic for steel but its worse in every way.

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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The other advantage of steel is I can work with it with simple tools.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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yes, to build yourself, steel is easiest

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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Hold up....

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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with brazing or dc tig

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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So much for "worse in every way"

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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Why is half the front suspension missing?!?

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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You can make brazing attempts at improving your ride.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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Like.... My OCD just went EEEEWWWW!

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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cause cannondale are weirdos

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:11 AM

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NopeNopeNope!

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:11 AM

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it is actualyl one of the strongest and stiffest forks

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also the most expensive

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:11 AM

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burnt tendon You can make brazing attempts at improving your ride.

Ohh, brazing!!! Copper framed MTB!
You're a genius!

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😁

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:12 AM

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....

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:12 AM

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Hahaha

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:12 AM

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I dono, there's enough fork failures with two tubes the idea of a single tube makes me nervous.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:12 AM

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silver brazed steel is a good choice for DIY

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:12 AM

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Like, yeah yeah yeah single engined aircraft vs light twin

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:12 AM

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I'll go full sparky welds, thank you.

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Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:13 AM

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ha

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:13 AM

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Don't like single tubes? https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gearjunkie.com/uploads/2016/08/rungu-in-moab.jpg

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:13 AM

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gas weld with r45

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:13 AM

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Fnaar!

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:13 AM

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that looks like something dan hanebrink would design

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:14 AM

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Those chonky tires are a nightmare on the road.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:14 AM

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Honestly, really good SLM 3D printed steel lugs and tubing sounds great tho.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:14 AM

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he used to mount 2 rims and tires side by side for the iditabike race

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before fat bikes were invented

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:15 AM

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burnt tendon Honestly, really good SLM 3D printed steel lugs and tubing sounds great tho.

yes, if you have $5000 for the lugs

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:15 AM

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Fat bikes were invented before I was born...

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:15 AM

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in 17-4ph

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fat bikes as we know them came out in the late 2000s

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so, your 14?

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😛

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:16 AM

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"Before I was born" = pennyfarthings

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:16 AM

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ha

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back in my day we had to ride up hill both ways in 4 feet of snow

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:18 AM

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I like steel frames best because steel absorbs more road vibration, works as natural shocks. Aluminum and titanium just transmit the road vibrations. Steel feels smooth, aluminum feels buzzy.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:18 AM

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Back in my day CPUs were measured in megahertz.

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I'm still skeptical about the whole "absorbs road vibration" in any real sense. Suspension yes, alloys... eh.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:19 AM

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offers wirehead a 20MHz Z80...

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:20 AM

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wispy heron I like steel frames best because steel absorbs more road vibration, works as nat...

this is a bit of a myth. frames flex based on their design. technically aluminium dampens vibration most and steel not at all. steel has near 100% energy return.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:21 AM

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Also my chef's knives are fancy Japanese alloy blades proving that I can be sold to on exotic alloys, just not with bikes.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:21 AM

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the really fat tubes of the 80s aluminium bikes vs the super skinny steels ones meant aluminium frames were super stiff in comparison, but that was all fixed by the mid 1990s

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:21 AM

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I think you're confusing damping with springiness.

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:22 AM

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rapid geode this is a bit of a myth. frames flex based on their design. technically aluminiu...

Interesting! It must be that the aluminum frames I’ve tried lean towards a buzzy geometry while steel frames I tried lean towards smooth riding geometry.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:22 AM

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possibly. or its all in your head 🙂

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theres a interview with rob english where someone says "your seat stays are skinny and compliant" and he's like " uh, no its a straight steel tube, its as compliant as a brick wall

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:24 AM

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Nah, hands and butt going numb isn’t just in my head lol! But I could very much see it being about geometry not about material.

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:24 AM

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Steel is strong in tension, compression, and shear. Aluminum is strong in bending.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:24 AM

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aluminium is like warm cheese

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😛

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:25 AM

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🧀

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:25 AM

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Especially if you're trying to cut, weld, or machine it.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:25 AM

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No whey man.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:25 AM

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aluminium can make a light bike at the same strength, and it is by far the cheapest material to use. this is why it dominates. high end aluminium frames cost $90 at the factory.

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steel is more like $500 these days

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carbon frame are about $200-$400.

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(this is high volume mass production)

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:27 AM

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Biggest issue I'll have is finding the right shape ali for the frame.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:27 AM

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round

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:27 AM

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Shape and wall thickness

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:27 AM

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all you can get off the shelf is round 6061 t0

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:27 AM

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No, not round.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:28 AM

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there used to be 7005 tubesets but they have all gone away i think

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:28 AM

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The biggest issue with bikes is finding the right combination of mis-features and bad engineering to look cool.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:28 AM

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If it's round pipe, I might as well buy scaffolding poles. Lmao

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:28 AM

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maybe dedaccai has some

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all the bike frasmes you see with fancy shaped tubes are custom hydroformed for each bike model and size

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:29 AM

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burnt tendon The biggest issue with bikes is finding the right combination of mis-features an...

I don't care for "cool", I only work on technical merit.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:29 AM

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burnt tendon The biggest issue with bikes is finding the right combination of mis-features an...

That’s why you buy Treks

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:29 AM

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your hardest thing with an aluminium frame will be getting it heat treated

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then cold set

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:29 AM

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🖖

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:30 AM

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tardy badger That’s why you buy Treks

no one buys treks. they just find them in bins

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:30 AM

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I had a Fuji road bike from the late 80s, early 90s that was super buttery to ride

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It had tensioned slide shifters and whatnot

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:31 AM

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i changed from 25c 100psi to 32c 65psi tires. now my bike is buttery

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my shifters use a can bus.

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🙂

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:31 AM

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I’ve done quite a few scrapped together projects with treks. The first bike I bought with my own money was new, lived on to become my first e-bike. They are crap, but they are good crap lolol

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:32 AM

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I think heat-treating should be easy enough.
I know guys in the NJ/NY area.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:32 AM

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trek are actually really nice. but its fun to hate on them

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:32 AM

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blissful roost I think heat-treating should be easy enough. I know guys in the NJ/NY area.

mmm...

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id like to see the results

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hehe

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cause i want to do it too

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:33 AM

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If I'm super-desperate, there's NC too. Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:33 AM

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the frame will warp when normalised. potentially a lot

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:33 AM

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All my trek bikes were second hand and they were tons of fun

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:33 AM

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so it then needs to be set before aging. it may be too involved for a heat treat shop to take on. thats what other frame builders tell me

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:34 AM

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There is a trek store in a shopping area two cities over from me

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:34 AM

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Lotsa things are fun to hate on with cycling. I like throwing an apple-flavored powerbar labeled "To the speediest" into a roomful of road cyclists.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:34 AM

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theres 2 trek stores in toronto now

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and a giant store

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:34 AM

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A giant store but what brand does it sell?

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:34 AM

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liv

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runs

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:37 AM

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The main disadvantages of steel are its density, and that it rusts. So you can make a gorgeous graceful steel frame that's still going to be heavier than a chonky aluminum one. However, I care about both technical merit (including what I can stick weld) and æsthetics. The weight difference doesn't really matter to me: the overwhelming majority of the weight of my ride is going to be the rider, 4 extra pounds of steel makes no practical difference. The raw strength of steel, however, is impressive, there are reasons ACSR is popular for power lines.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:38 AM

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use aermet 100

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:38 AM

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Stick welding a bike frame sounds .. sub-optimal.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:39 AM

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reynolds 953 is actually pretty light too.

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:39 AM

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My choices are oxy-acetylene or buzz box. I don't have any source of shield gas or any of that newfangled frippery.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:39 AM

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people have stick welded frames, but you need tubign thats at least 1.5mm or so thick. so suuuuuper heavy

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:40 AM

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You do need some skills to stick weld thin steel tubing, but it's far from impossible.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:40 AM

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impractical really. i have stick welded a server case. most of the weld was clean, but several holes

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:40 AM

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late fulcrum The main disadvantages of steel are its density, and that it rusts. So you can ...

I've lost count of how often I have to shoulder a bike, up stairs or something.. so weight will matter to me.

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:41 AM

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Yeah, carrying a bike can be a pain, but the difference between 12 pounds and 16 pounds isn't critical for me.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:41 AM

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road bikes are 15-17 lbs these days. and mountain bikes have gone the other way to 30-40lbs

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ha

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:42 AM

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Besides... I didn't lose 70lbs for nothing.. 😅

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:42 AM

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Carrying bikes is great exercise...

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:42 AM

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Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:42 AM

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throwing them is more fun

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:43 AM

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Ohh, I know...

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:43 AM

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ha

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:43 AM

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Especially when they belong to someone else. 😂

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:43 AM

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i knew someone that just threw their bike every time they crashed

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anger issues

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my ragley is 27lbs with huge tires

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:44 AM

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Needs moar Raleigh.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:44 AM

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i guess that farly light these days

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raleigh is dead

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:44 AM

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Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:44 AM

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as of last year

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sad

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split back up. canadian tire owns the name in canada now

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:45 AM

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Technically, they died in the early 90s..

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:45 AM

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they have dies 9 times

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haha

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in the 90s there were 3 raleighs. canada, usa and uk

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in the mid 2000s they got merged

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and not they are dead again

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:46 AM

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"Raleigh bicycle is now a division of the Dutch corporation Accell."

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:46 AM

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not anymore

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:46 AM

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Mines an e-bike with cargo baskets. Weighs about half what I do. I simply don’t lift it. If I must, I spend half an hour unstrapping everything from it, not worth it. If I need an easy lifting bike I would ride something else.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:46 AM

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Well, one of these days, I'm sure they'll raleigh and people will care about them again.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:47 AM

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nope

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dead

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for good

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:47 AM

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burnt tendon Well, one of these days, I'm sure they'll raleigh and people will care about the...

Oof

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:47 AM

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Yeah, I like the convenience of being able to carry them up stairs but I'd also note that if you build things to the ADA regulations, plus or minus a few things, they are also perfectly bike-accessible for walking your bike.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:48 AM

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destined to dwell in the discount department store for ever more

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:48 AM

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burnt tendon Yeah, I like the convenience of being able to carry them up stairs but I'd also ...

Lady ADA?!?

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:48 AM

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lady ada is ada compliant

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:48 AM

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Lol

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:49 AM

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Americans with Disabilities Act.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:49 AM

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Ohh.. that's not something I need to look into.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:49 AM

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its mostly about things being able to be wheelchair accessed

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:50 AM

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Indeed

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:50 AM

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Like, UGH, okay, so I have people who use a wheelchair in my family and so I literally didn't have a conception that there's a whole world of people out there who aren't close to someone who is disabled, but I guess it's a thing that I get fired up about.

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For example, ramps and stuff are great for wheelchairs in specific but also just carts or people who are using crutches, et al.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 3:51 AM

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My wife knows all about that.
For me, I don't concern myself when I'm looking at personal projects.

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 3:51 AM

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Bikes, strollers, skateboards, segways, etc. The ADA covers all sorts of things, including web site design.

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:51 AM

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And it turns out that bikes are accessibility devices unto themselves because when I had a screwed up foot, I could totally bike better than I could walk.

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e-bikes doubly so.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:52 AM

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i know a one legged guy that uses a bicycle as a "wheel chair"

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:53 AM

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And then I had a very nice amazing person who uses a wheelchair over... a bedazzled sparkly rhinestoned wheelchair, mind you... for a photo shoot and I had to be like "Ugh, yeah, so I went in and here's exactly why my place is not wheelchair accessible, can we still shoot, I'm really sorry" and we ended up carrying them over the freaking stoop that was the primary reason why my place isn't accessible.

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Oh yeah there's a one-legged guy who I used to commute on the same route with and he was wicked fast.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:54 AM

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this guy has one leg - no prothetic. he put a steel weight on one pedal and it seems to work

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:55 AM

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burnt tendon And it turns out that bikes are accessibility devices unto themselves because wh...

Exactly, exactly! I often have to use a cane, and an electric bike.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:55 AM

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this is still my favourite prothetic leg

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🙂

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 3:56 AM

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I was screwing around with some architectural modeling so I know where to find the ADA reqs and everything so I was able to find 'em and get out my measuring tape which is what made me annoyed at my own circumstances with respect to my own living space because, yeah, people don't plan on becoming disabled, it's not a moral weakness or anything, it's something that happens to pretty much all of us at some point.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:58 AM

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Nothing here is particularly wheelchair friendly. only new commercial buildings

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 4:01 AM

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Yah, there's this designer I follow on Instagram who is really good at doing super-fun stuff that's designed to be adaptive.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 4:02 AM

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I use a wheelchair and it's so frustrating seeing places that most abled people think is accessible just not be usable for me

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 4:03 AM

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I think I might buy some parts for my Pi Zero 2 W..

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 4:04 AM

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also wheelchair accessible means that you can make simpler wheeled robots instead of having to make walking legged robots.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 4:05 AM

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my wife keeps jokingly suggesting legged robots and i keep telling her that the motorised wheelchair my OT recommended to replace my manual wheelchair

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 4:05 AM

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get one of those walking wheelchairs

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i forget what they are called. by the guy that invented the segway

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 4:06 AM

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No, build a giant armed walking robot to ride on that can be used to take over the world.

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Defense only works so much.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 4:07 AM

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taking over the world to make it more accessible seems like my only option some days

burnt tendon Oct 12, 2022, 4:08 AM

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"The party's on the second floor and you want me to take the staircase? That's fine, I'll just go through the second story window"

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"Tell the waiter to duck, these lasers aren't here for show, y'no"

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 4:08 AM

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I'd imagine rappelling in a wheelchair would be pretty cool...

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 AM

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get a transformer wheel chair that turns into robot legs

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 AM

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Transform and roll out!!

crystal ore Oct 12, 2022, 4:13 AM

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rapid geode i forget what they are called. by the guy that invented the segway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBOT

IBOT

The iBOT is a powered wheelchair developed by Dean Kamen in a partnership between DEKA and Johnson & Johnson's Independence Technology division.

late fulcrum Oct 12, 2022, 4:13 AM

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static flare I use a wheelchair and it's so frustrating seeing places that most abled people ...

There's nothing like actually living it to drive home the crucial details required for true accessibility.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 4:22 AM

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crystal ore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBOT

I feel like I'd probably be terrified using that

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 4:22 AM

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late fulcrum There's nothing like actually living it to drive home the crucial details requir...

unfortunately:/

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 3:51 PM

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rapid geode get a transformer wheel chair that turns into robot legs

Even a "basic" wheel chair can be thousands of dollars if you want reasonable quality. Robotic you're talking multiple 10s of thousands.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:52 PM

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....

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 3:52 PM

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In the US I believe there are like 2? Maybe 1? Manufacturer of wheelchairs so it all gets super expensive

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:52 PM

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You can buy a wheelchair at Walmart for like $150

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Lol…

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 3:52 PM

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I know arte is Australian but I don't know a single thing for their situation there

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 3:53 PM

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tardy badger You can buy a wheelchair at Walmart for like $150

And it's a Walmart wheelchair. Ones that will be more comfortable and will last cost more

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:54 PM

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Walmart wheelchairs usually are meant for temporary injuries like a broken leg. They are not suitable for long term use by a disabled person.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:54 PM

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Sure, that’s fair

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 3:54 PM

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Which works for a lot of folks who don't necessarily need it every day.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:54 PM

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But I’d argue a Walmart chair purchased multiple times over the course of day.. 2-3 years would be a lot cheaper than one provided by a long term care company

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 3:55 PM

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Cheaper but I'd guess far less comfortable

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:55 PM

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It’s not ideal, but in terms of a person was needing it but couldn’t afford one otherwise it might be their only option

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:55 PM

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put some cushions on it

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:55 PM

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They are about as comfortable as a lawn chair. And it’s something that you have to sit in all day every day. That would lead to further joint strain, injury, sores, not to mention just being uncomfortable af.

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It’s not about comfort, it’s about safety. Those chairs are not designed for disabled people. They are designed for temporary injuries.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:56 PM

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wispy heron They are about as comfortable as a lawn chair. And it’s something that you have ...

Not everyone can afford to be comfortable unfortunately 😦

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Or safety

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 3:56 PM

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tardy badger It’s not ideal, but in terms of a person was needing it but couldn’t afford one ...

I agree. My thesis was that they are too expensive for quality.

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 3:57 PM

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I have hEDS. The wrong kind of chair will literally dislocate my hips. A Walmart chair would injure me.

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 3:57 PM

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Like a wheelchair is a fairly mature technology in its basic form. They shouldn't be 1-2k

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 3:58 PM

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outside powered ans special purpose chairs, most are under $500

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whihc is less than the cost of a nice office chair

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 3:59 PM

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wispy heron I have hEDS. The wrong kind of chair will literally dislocate my hips. A Walmart...

That doesn’t sound pleasant at all

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I have a mild not as progressed for of hEDS. Lots of physical therapy I went through a few years

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I’m glad there is more awareness towards EDS these days.

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High flexibility and elasticity was fun as a kid but painful as an adult

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:02 PM

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So true. I got so many free beers in college doing party tricks. Now I just wanna be able to go upstairs without hurting lol

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:03 PM

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The part for me that has been worse of the last few years is the decrease in sleep quality because my body jerks around so much or gets so relaxed that I strain muscles while asleep

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Gives my wife a good laugh when my shoulders and neck are so tweaked I have to turn my whole torso to look around

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Good times

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Or the vasovagal syncope. 0/10, don’t recommend

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Do you deal with any blood pressure issues with your EDS?

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:06 PM

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I ended up getting a mattress that’s supposed to be good for eds stuff. It’s helped the sleep some, but still can’t get enough sleep. And yeah, syncope is fun!

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:07 PM

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I feel bad because my wife can just jump up out of the bed to tend to sudden things with the baby at night but if I did that I would fall and have fallen

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:07 PM

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My blood pressure is super low. If I stand up too fast I faint. The colors right before going out are pretty, but it tends to freak people out when you randomly faint.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 4:08 PM

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my blood pressure was 80/30 once. that was fun

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:08 PM

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We have a kiddo too, and yeah it’s hard not being able to fast react, especially since I used to have fast reflexes. And most days I can’t pick her up which is so hard.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Yeah, getting sick with stomach bugs is fun because it’s a a challenge to not up chuck. Last time I got sick with a stomach bug was two weeks ago and I passed out almost immediately after my body heaved.

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:09 PM

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rapid geode my blood pressure was 80/30 once. that was fun

Holy crap that’s like half a step from dead lol! Were you conscious?

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 PM

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I’ve also noticed my typing on keyboards and my phone has been getting worse..

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 PM

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i was fine....

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 PM

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Which is great because my job requires me to type

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 PM

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ok

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not fine

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almost dead

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 PM

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Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 PM

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:x

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i think my heart rate wa slike 35 or 40 too

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then they gave me yummy drugs

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mmm drugs

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haha

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(steroids)

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:12 PM

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I also get migraines that give me nausea, getting something like ondansetron to nuke the nausea has helped with that. Puking is so bad with dislocating ribs, so having an antinausea med on hand is so useful.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:12 PM

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My sister also has EDS and she gets blistering bad migraines

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The ones where all you can do is just go to sleep

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:13 PM

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rapid geode i think my heart rate wa slike 35 or 40 too

Lol that’s amazing

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:14 PM

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My son doesn’t so much have the hyper mobility part, but he suffers from more cardiovascular EDS issues like the vasovagal syncope

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My daughter was unlucky and picked up a bicuspid aortic valve and syncope

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She also has the hyper mobility trait

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My youngest has a very tiny hole in the wall between the upper chamber of his heart

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:16 PM

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Hopefully knowing from a young age will help them navigate it easier through life. Figuring it out in my 30’s was a bit late to save a lot of my joints

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:16 PM

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I’m honestly surprised my joints haven’t deteriorated as much as they could have

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The feeling of always being jittery and twitchy because my joints are so lose.. I wish I could stay still for more than 2 seconds.

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 4:18 PM

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do they crack too?

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:18 PM

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dusty citrus do they crack too?

Like a glow stick

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 4:19 PM

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Yes

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My elbows and wrists pop a lot

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Shoulders, knees sound like someone blew a tire on a bike

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My wife gets cold chills when my ankles pop while walking

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A day in the life lol

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 4:21 PM

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eh I can kinda understand
when I was a dumb kid I used to self harm by playing with joints
now I got bad joints

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 4:21 PM

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just get a new robot body

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 4:29 PM

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rapid geode just get a new robot body

That’s my plan

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 5:21 PM

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question, for a gnd pin what type should I pick on?

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 7:02 PM

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lusty fossil I know arte is Australian but I don't know a single thing for their situation th...

So I have a wheelchair subsidised by the government (the only way I could afford it) and it was about $700. The left brake failed almost immediately and repairs were promised but never completed.

lusty fossil Oct 12, 2022, 7:02 PM

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I'm sorry to hear that

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 7:03 PM

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wispy heron I have hEDS. The wrong kind of chair will literally dislocate my hips. A Walmart...

I also have hEDS! it's why i have to use the wheelchair

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my wife also has EDS, so household living stuff is always a bit of a challenge, but I have things a lot worse, hers is manageable a lot more than mine

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 7:06 PM

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It’s funny that eds is supposedly uncommon yet we seem to run into each other so often. I guess zebras move in herds.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 7:07 PM

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I know, right?

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 7:07 PM

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Three people in one chat with eds

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Wild, and great to hear how other people manage

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 7:09 PM

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Hopefully in the future I'm able to look into stuff like physiotherapy

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Right now I can't afford it because my wife and I are both on disability and that gives us barely enough to survive

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 7:11 PM

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Oof. I’m fortunate enough to be able to manage through each day and work. It’s a struggle but it feels like it’s getting worse each passing year

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 7:17 PM

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My wife is looking at getting a Christmas casual job to just have a bit extra, but she can't do much and needs at least her stick and a seat

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 7:20 PM

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I’m currently stay at home parent, but once kiddo gets old enough to go to school I gotta do the job thing again. And I’m terribly worried about my ability to do it, I’m pretty sure my hands can’t take 40 hours of coding a week anymore.

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I might need to rebuild an ergo keyboard. But there are so many different options that I get decision fatigue trying to decide what would be best for my hands and not just get lured by the cool looking stuff lol

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 7:27 PM

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my wife and i are really young so our only real responsibilities are to ourselves and our partners, but we both do wish we could do more

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 7:39 PM

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I really need to get an adjustable desk. I can’t really justify if right now though

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 7:40 PM

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You'll put it off until when exactly. ;) Probably one of the smartest things you'll ever do is get that desk. ;)

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 7:40 PM

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Until I’m bed ridden of course

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It’s more of a “there’s not enough money at the end of every paycheck to get one”

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 7:41 PM

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I do have .. um .. activity table legs; they adjust in one inch increments and down to about 23 or 24 inch table height. Bought a set of four for like 70 bux from Office Depot or somebody like that.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 7:42 PM

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My wife and I are struggling to afford groceries; we’ve had to get help from a food pantry the last few months

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I haven’t really financially recovered from getting laid off over the summer

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 7:43 PM

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They are totally giving away the store in Connecticut because of Covid. Food stamps disbursals were at an all-time high (by a very large amount as I understand it). They call it 'SNAP'.
They now deliver food using SNAP benefits to pay for the food itself.
Customer uses the usual food delivery nets like Peapod. Customer pays cash for the delivery fees.

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 7:43 PM

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Adjustable desk helped me a lot! I’ll for sure be getting one again someday.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 7:51 PM

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We're a young couple and I'm already bedridden most of the time now, so we're looking into getting meals delivered so my wife doesn't have to be burdened with taking care of me when she also needs taking care of

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 7:54 PM

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I’ve thought about doing those. I get by with a lot of nutrition shakes, which isn’t ideal. But I have a lot of weird allergies, and seems a bit too complex for meal delivery services.

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Speaking of food allergies, I’ve been thinking about the new Bosch sensors, bme688 I think? It can detect different smells with enough training? Dogs can be trained to be service dogs to detect food allergens, perhaps a sensor package could eventually do that too. Would be great for folks with scary allergies like peanut to get an alert if they walk in somewhere that smells like peanuts.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 7:58 PM

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I'm lucky I don't have allergies but I can't have certain foods for other reasons, but my wife is allergic to dairy and gluten which really wrecks our grocery budget

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Yeah, navigating around food allergies or sensitivities or aversions can get real spendy. I think I’m the most expensive one to feed in our polycule and I think I eat the least lol

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 7:59 PM

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I have no allergies.. except a scratch test did suggest I could be allergic to wasp stings, I wasn't willing to test the theory. 😅

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In other news.. apparently my wife's medical check-up suggested she may have had a heart attack at some point in the last couple of years.

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We're thinking it may have been during her surgery, but they seemed quite reluctant to inform her of any complications at the time.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 8:03 PM

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my doc thinks i have an allergy to something but my mum thinks it's actually something she has

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 8:05 PM

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I’ve been stung by so many wasps. So so many. Not particularly allergic, luckily, but it’s also been a long time and allergies can change.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 8:05 PM

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wispy heron Yeah, navigating around food allergies or sensitivities or aversions can get rea...

when our girlfriend moves in with us i think my wife will end up being the most expensive, but i do spend a lot right now on microwave meals so it might just depend. not sure about everyone in my polycule tho, there might be someone who spends more

wispy heron Oct 12, 2022, 8:07 PM

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static flare when our girlfriend moves in with us i think my wife will end up being the most ...

I guess it depends on where the lines of the polycule are drawn. Because I’m pretty sure I’m connected to the Greater Seattle Polycule, somehow, it’s impossible not to be.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 8:07 PM

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I think the costs for me and our girlfriend will go down due to being able to buy a bit more in bulk

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:07 PM

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static flare my doc thinks i have an allergy to *something* but my mum thinks it's actually s...

That seems oddly vague.. have they suggested further testing?

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 8:08 PM

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wispy heron I guess it depends on where the lines of the polycule are drawn. Because I’m pre...

Even as an Australian I'm probably connected to that one, I tried mapping it all out but I could only go to my metamours for the most part

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 8:09 PM

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blissful roost That seems oddly vague.. have they suggested further testing?

Yeah, but she's wanting to wait until my next scheduled blood test

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:09 PM

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Fair

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That's a new one on me.. I had to look up "polycule". 😅

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:10 PM

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I thought a heart attack was diagnosed with traponine (spelling) and the EKG.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troponin

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:12 PM

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She had the EKG, not sure about the other thing.

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:13 PM

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Probably an abnormal EKG. They check me pretty often now. ;)

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:13 PM

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If the persistence is correct, then I'd assume it's too long ago for that.

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The troponin..

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:14 PM

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Right it's a short term marker like the D-Dimer is.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-dimer

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I had about I don't know 20 months of constant alerts following initial issue. Got really good at all this stuff.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Seems so..

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Her medical knowledge is far superior to mine, so she's got it all in-hand.

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:18 PM

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You just have to follow their program and be diligent. It's just another thing to cope with. In my case surgery corrected it to the point where I got better while still on the table. ;)
I was touchy about stuff I didn't understand so went to the e.r. a lot for like I say 20 months or so until I got used to it.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 8:18 PM

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wispy heron I guess it depends on where the lines of the polycule are drawn. Because I’m pre...

Always cool to find more polyam zebras out there! :3

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:30 PM

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"I always thought monogamy was a type of wood..."
😂

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:31 PM

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O_o

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a poly is a triangle in 3d. not related to mahogany at all

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:33 PM

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whoosh!

ebon dew Oct 12, 2022, 8:34 PM

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polymahogany is a tree with three leader roots?

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:34 PM

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rapid geode a poly is a triangle in 3d. not related to mahogany at all

"poly" means many.

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from Greek polys "much" (plural polloi)

ebon dew Oct 12, 2022, 8:35 PM

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didn't know that, thank you

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:35 PM

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👍

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:35 PM

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mahogany trees cant get polio

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:35 PM

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Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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you people need some education

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runs

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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I also had to look up polycule

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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*edumacation

ebon dew Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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that's why we have you tho

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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poly as in polyamorous XD

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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And went down a rabbit hole

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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Oh my!

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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blissful roost Oh my!

Ran into your rabbits down there

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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poly more us?

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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hhuuuuurrr

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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rabits are not poly

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:37 PM

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I mean, in large enough communities they can be

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:37 PM

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unless it is roger rabbit

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:39 PM

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Actually, rabbits aren't fussy at all.. and they don't pair for life, in nature at least.

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My two are paired for life, but that's forced by human interaction.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:40 PM

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rabbits are paired with onions and carrots and garlic in a red wine reduction

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:41 PM

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Oof!

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:41 PM

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actually i saw a bunch of rabbit at the grocery store an hour ago. never tried it, dont really want to cause they still resemble rabbits on the shelf 😦

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:41 PM

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NUU! You bad!

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Lol

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:42 PM

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so i bought chiken instead

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doesnt look like an animal

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so its safe

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😛

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:43 PM

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Lol

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I've eaten rabbit before, many years ago.

rapid geode Oct 12, 2022, 8:44 PM

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my friend just sent me a video of someone recycling PET bottles into 3d printing filament. 15 million views. completely fake

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sigh

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:46 PM

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Yeah, no way that would get a genuine 15 mill.

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Lol

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:46 PM

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They served jackrabbit in the chow hall all the time.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 8:46 PM

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That would be a wild rabbit, right?

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:46 PM

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Well we called it jackrabbit, probably to be annoying. It was rabbit. Looks like chicken from a distance. ;) They would bread and fry it.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:47 PM

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Jack rabbit are actually a thing

thick wind Oct 12, 2022, 8:47 PM

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Rabbit isn’t bad. Not sure if worth eating often over my usual fare, but it is different.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:47 PM

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They are considered predators so you can shoot as many as you want in Wyoming

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:47 PM

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That was in the southwest on a military base.
I ate it several times; no opinion of eating that dish remains (was never offered it anywhere else).

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:48 PM

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Similar range and species I’d bet

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Black-tailed jackrabbit

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Or known as the American Desert Hare

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:49 PM

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We used to joke about them being procured 'on perimeter road'. ;)

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:50 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-tailed_jackrabbit

Black-tailed jackrabbit

The black-tailed jackrabbit (Lepus californicus), also known as the American desert hare, is a common hare of the western United States and Mexico, where it is found at elevations from sea level up to 10,000 ft (3,000 m). Reaching a length around 2 ft (61 cm), and a weight from 3 to 6 lb (1.4 to 2.7 kg), the black-tailed jackrabbit is one of the...

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Pretty wild that they have range up to 10000ft in elevation

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 8:51 PM

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10k's pretty high. There's a ski place that'll do 11k and people get altitude sickness there. Like: you go up to 11k and come down fast on your skis, iirc, if you can even handle it.

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 8:55 PM

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People who do back country regularly do drops from 12k into lower 10k basins.

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 9:02 PM

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btw south pole is at about 10k above bedrock. ;) (checked: 9300 ft) Ice sheet thickness: 8900 ft. at Pole.

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 9:02 PM

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I'm pondering ordering some bits for my Pi Pico fan controller this month.

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 9:43 PM

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blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:03 PM

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So.. just looking at I2C RGB sensors..
Am I correct in assuming they will use a common address, if I buy a batch of the same board?

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 10:08 PM

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That wouldn't surprise me

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:09 PM

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So... How would I go about reading data from, say.. 48-64 such sensors on a Pi Pico??

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 10:13 PM

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I wish I could justify $100 on this https://www.adafruit.com/product/4796

Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop - Full Computer Kit

Raspberry Pi 400 is a complete Raspberry Pi 4-based personal computer, integrated into a keyboard. The Pi 4 is the first computer from the Pi Foundation that really feels 'desktop ...

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There’s one left

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I could move my pi dev server to it and free up my 3B+ for other projects

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:15 PM

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I could be tempted to pick one up at the pop-up store in London this month

tardy badger Oct 12, 2022, 10:17 PM

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Plus making a cyberdeck would be sweet with the Pi 400

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But I don’t want to waste my one RPi Adafruit purchase on the 400 when I really just want a CM4

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 10:40 PM

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my local electronics shop has 400s just sitting there

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granted, they're like, $300AUD

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:41 PM

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Yeahno.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 10:41 PM

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actually i think it's only $200

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I think it's like, 199? let me check my pricing/ordering catalogue

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:42 PM

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That's more about the normal price

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 10:42 PM

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(they release one each year and it's terribly useful)

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:42 PM

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Around £113 GBP

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

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it's $150AUD which is ~$93USD

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but they have like, a shelf full of them

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i asked how they have so many and it's cause they're not selling

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:48 PM

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Buy the lot, then gouge on eBay. 😂

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 10:49 PM

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if i could afford that haha! the issue with that kinda thing is having the upfront cost for it, plus i want at least one or two for myself

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:51 PM

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I doubt I'll get one.. I'm already dropping £600 on PC upgrades.

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Can't really justify a Pi 400.

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I wish the prices on this kit would just consistently go down, rather than wobbling up and down... Lol

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The entire lot was at 590 the other day, now I'm looking at 610. 😅

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 10:59 PM

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pc parts?

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:59 PM

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Yarp

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 10:59 PM

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I just bought them incrementally really

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 10:59 PM

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I need to buy everything in one hit, otherwise it could take weeks.

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.. and it's a whole upgrade package, I can't just swap a few parts and wait.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 11:00 PM

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that's super valid

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i haven't upgraded anything since I first bought the parts, apart from the case and the drive

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 11:01 PM

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Ryzen 5600x
Asus Strix B550-F motherboard.
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, 32GB 3600MHz.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black edition cooler.
Asus TUF 750W PSU.
Win 10 Enterprise.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 11:02 PM

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same mobo, with a 3700X, stock cooler, 2070, 2x8GB Corsair RAM, and a 750W PSU

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 11:03 PM

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I can't deal with the stock cooler.

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It will stay in the box. Lol

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 11:03 PM

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It's worked well enough for me, but I'm considering getting a EVGA AIO cooler

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 11:04 PM

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a little noisy that is

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 11:04 PM

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my wife has one for her new PC and it does well

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 11:04 PM

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If I were to go WC, it would be a custom loop.
I can't do AIO either. Lol

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 11:04 PM

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dusty citrus a little noisy that is

Hasn't been noisy for us

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 11:04 PM

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I had a d15 when I had a desktop
now it's still there taking up powder
because I wasn't able to sell it back

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 11:04 PM

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The performance just isn't there with the stock cooler.. not for me.

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I might swap the fan on the 212, for a noisier pair.

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 11:05 PM

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if i wanna get things cooler (which i might wanna do one day) I'd probably go for a custom loop between my CPU and GPU, but my wife just has a CPU cooler and that works for her PC

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 11:06 PM

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I'm very tempted to DIY an entire WC solution, for my desktop Pentium M. 😁

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Total overkill.

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 11:06 PM

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if you have the money
make like a sealed box with some 3m liquid for servers lol

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 11:06 PM

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Nah

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You mean like dunk the entire rig?

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 11:06 PM

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that would be very difficult to do anything with

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at least, like, in terms of internal working

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 11:07 PM

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blissful roost You mean like dunk the entire rig?

yeah or make a smaller container just for the hot parts

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 11:07 PM

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Not worth the cost or hassle, for me.

dusty citrus Oct 12, 2022, 11:07 PM

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since that 3m liquid is not that cheap

static flare Oct 12, 2022, 11:07 PM

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me neither

blissful roost Oct 12, 2022, 11:12 PM

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I'd love to build a hard line custom loop, so I can practice brazing and machining.

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All copper. 🥰

night crescent Oct 12, 2022, 11:30 PM

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tardy badger Oct 13, 2022, 2:59 AM

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The Rock type Eevee

gusty torrent Oct 13, 2022, 6:21 AM

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Its weird, I'm getting packages from china now faster than I was pre-pandemic.

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JLCPCB boards in 6 days using the cheapest, slowest shipping method.

frigid falcon Oct 13, 2022, 7:21 AM

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Any word on when there might be more Raspberry Pi 4's ?

blissful roost Oct 13, 2022, 7:44 AM

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frigid falcon Any word on when there might be more Raspberry Pi 4's ?

Not really

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There will be a pop-up store in London this month that should have stock.

frigid falcon Oct 13, 2022, 7:52 AM

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Lets hope they have some!

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I need like two or three but I don't like in london!

blissful roost Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 AM

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You have choices.. London, or wait on the internet.. lol

tardy badger Oct 13, 2022, 12:49 PM

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blissful roost You have choices.. London, or wait on the internet.. lol

The internet is harder because you’re fighting bots which is next to impossible

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And adafruit puts up ~100 at a time which are usually sold out in less than an hour

shadow siren Oct 13, 2022, 2:58 PM

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Yeah my Aliexpress shipments arrive pretty quick and with real good tracking

blissful roost Oct 13, 2022, 4:03 PM

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tardy badger The internet is harder because you’re fighting bots which is next to impossible

Indeed

analog tusk Oct 13, 2022, 5:29 PM

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hii

blissful roost Oct 13, 2022, 5:29 PM

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tardy badger Oct 13, 2022, 5:30 PM

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blissful roost

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-star-wars-grevious-gif-17774326

Tenor

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One simply has to respond that way. It’s only appropriate.

analog tusk Oct 13, 2022, 5:32 PM

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hiiii

cursive anchor Oct 13, 2022, 6:42 PM

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Odd message. I reload and the message goes away, but no option for USPS (which should be much cheaper for shipping two tiny Raspberry Pi Pico Ws).

charred dome Oct 13, 2022, 6:47 PM

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shadow siren Yeah my Aliexpress shipments arrive pretty quick and with real good tracking

got a link to where to buy a good one?

cursive anchor Oct 13, 2022, 7:04 PM

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cursive anchor Odd message. I reload and the message goes away, but no option for USPS (which s...

This is now solved. I got it shipped for about $6.

frosty tartan Oct 13, 2022, 7:43 PM

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hi just wondering if anyone could tell me the FOV of the adafruit AS7341 colour sensor ?

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and its stand off height for it to work

rapid geode Oct 13, 2022, 7:58 PM

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analog tusk hiiii

helooooo

late fulcrum Oct 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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frosty tartan and its stand off height for it to work

It's a light sensor, not an object sensor, so it doesn't really have a standoff height. The datasheet recommends using a bulk diffuser (such as a Thorlabs ED1-C50). It does give a suggested diffuser angular response curve:

frosty tartan Oct 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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late fulcrum It's a light sensor, not an object sensor, so it doesn't really have a standoff ...

okay thank you

frosty tartan Oct 13, 2022, 8:17 PM

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late fulcrum It's a light sensor, not an object sensor, so it doesn't really have a standoff ...

can you send me a link to this datasheet as i cant seem to find it

late fulcrum Oct 13, 2022, 8:19 PM

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If you go to the product page, it has a link to the learn page, which has a link to the data sheet on its "Downloads" page: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-as7341-10-channel-light-color-sensor-breakout/downloads

shadow siren Oct 14, 2022, 3:36 AM

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Has anyone who got a recent adafruit order shipped outside the US to Canada by DHL get charged a extra "EXCESS LINE FEE CHARGE" because your order was more than 5 items.

ebon dew Oct 14, 2022, 4:14 AM

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Do a discord search for Canada post or Canada Dhl. I remember someone had an issue like that last month.

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It might have been from digikey though, can’t remember.

daring oxide Oct 14, 2022, 10:43 AM

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Hi

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Does any body knows where I can find the DataSheet for the Flying-fish IR Sensor ?

late fulcrum Oct 14, 2022, 11:45 AM

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daring oxide Does any body knows where I can find the DataSheet for the Flying-fish IR Sensor...

I believe that is equivalent to an FC-51 infrared proximity sensor, described here: https://artofcircuits.com/product/infrared-obstacle-avoidance-proximity-sensors-module-fc-51

lusty fossil Oct 14, 2022, 5:30 PM

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Hagrid died

rapid geode Oct 14, 2022, 5:32 PM

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lies. he is on a farm upstate

dusty citrus Oct 14, 2022, 7:03 PM

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I’d agree. Seems like a sad loss we all have encountered.

blissful roost Oct 14, 2022, 7:15 PM

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A darn shame.. he was a nice guy.

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I met him at Pinewood Studios, many years ago.

thorn flax Oct 14, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Does anyone have any advice on 3D printers? I’m looking for a good one at least 6x6x6 in inches. Any advice on what to get would be highly appreciated. I can’t find anything that won’t fall apart the second I turn it on

dusty citrus Oct 14, 2022, 7:51 PM

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thorn flax Does anyone have any advice on 3D printers? I’m looking for a good one at least ...

cheap ones are usually like that
they don't fall apart anymore like the really first ones (anet a8 or ctc i3 wood), but will be annoying
I can't talk with more expensive ones, I never had any

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anyway AliExpress has some sort of problem
in the search bar it suggest adult toys with lots of explicit words

thorn flax Oct 14, 2022, 7:53 PM

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At what point are they cheap and at what point are they overpriced? What’s a good price for a good one?

dusty citrus Oct 14, 2022, 8:00 PM

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for me cheap is 100/200
in the end I think that pricing is due to the volume they expect to sale
some do market themselves as being for professionals, others try to be more cheap as possible and eccetera
in the end they are more or less the sake

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ask to #help-with-3dprinting anyway they might help you better

thorn flax Oct 14, 2022, 8:01 PM

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Thank you 🙏

thick wind Oct 14, 2022, 8:21 PM

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That feel when I have an unutilized piece of unobtanium and feel guilted into starting a project with limited materials.

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Cheapest DSI touch display I could get off of Amazon, screwed into a cardboard box.

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Looks surprisingly decent for a literal cardboard laptop…

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If only I used an ever so slightly larger cardboard box, I’d be able to store the keyboard IN the box…

blissful roost Oct 14, 2022, 8:41 PM

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👍

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I just got all my annual leave booked up.. I'll be off for 28 days in total, with my upgraded PC. 🤘😁

tardy badger Oct 14, 2022, 8:49 PM

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Nice!

spice moss Oct 14, 2022, 8:57 PM

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splashdown is cool

blissful roost Oct 14, 2022, 8:58 PM

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@thick wind I'd like to do something similar with my Zero 2 W, but I'd need to get another one.

reef bobcat Oct 14, 2022, 8:59 PM

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Hi guys. I know some of you use tio but perhaps you will also find lxi-tools (https://github.com/lxi-tools/lxi-tools) useful in case you use modern network attached test instruments such as oscilloscopes, power supplies, etc. for your embedded work or hacking. I've just now released lxi-tools v2.2. Happy hacking everyone!

GitHub

GitHub - lxi-tools/lxi-tools: Open source LXI tools

Open source LXI tools. Contribute to lxi-tools/lxi-tools development by creating an account on GitHub.

lusty fossil Oct 14, 2022, 10:18 PM

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What's the best way to take some rope, cut it to length, then prevent it from fraying?

blissful roost Oct 14, 2022, 10:19 PM

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What type of material?

modest knot Oct 14, 2022, 10:19 PM

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anybody know of any (cheap) omnidirectional IR or "laser" sensor? that doesnt require me to buy 100s of single direction sensors and arrange them into a dome myself?

lusty fossil Oct 14, 2022, 10:19 PM

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In this case synthetic cotton and cotton.

blissful roost Oct 14, 2022, 10:20 PM

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Humm...

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If it were nylon, I'd melt it.. but not sure on that one.

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Maybe wax it?

lusty fossil Oct 14, 2022, 10:20 PM

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Hmm ok

blissful roost Oct 14, 2022, 10:21 PM

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If the synthetic fibre melts, that might be enough

lusty fossil Oct 14, 2022, 10:28 PM

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Wax has been suggested

dusty citrus Oct 14, 2022, 10:34 PM

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Depends. There's a hammock forum that focuses on rope work. I'm a member but haven't seen the email from it in a very long time.
The old rope (can't remember the word for it) you would 'whip' it. The problem is if it's handled in a way that pulls the whipping off the end or not.

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https://www.animatedknots.com/sailmakers-whipping-knot

lusty fossil Oct 14, 2022, 10:37 PM

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That looks very effective if time consuming

dusty citrus Oct 14, 2022, 10:38 PM

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I usually just tolerate a frayed end for daily stuff that's unimportant. I have very thin nylon cord; for that I usually tie a bloodknot into it to join the ends together into a continuous loop.

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https://www.netknots.com/application/files/3815/3622/7618/181.jpeg

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They're missing a visualization step in that image - there's no strand coming off the outside in the finished knot (which is depicted correctly). Been a few years since I've tied one of those. ;)

crystal ore Oct 14, 2022, 10:57 PM

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modest knot anybody know of any (cheap) omnidirectional IR or "laser" sensor? that doesnt re...

Can you clarify what sort of thing you're trying to sense? Are you looking for like a scanning lidar, or a "something is close to me" proximity sensor, or...?

modest knot Oct 14, 2022, 10:59 PM

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crystal ore Can you clarify what sort of thing you're trying to sense? Are you looking for l...

im looking to make a set of robots for my kids, ive got a tank like robot that drives, all 3d printed... just need some way for them to battle each other... so need to put some sort of IR emitter in a cannon mounted on it, and have some sort of receiver mounted on top. that can be hit from any direction

crystal ore Oct 14, 2022, 11:01 PM

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modest knot im looking to make a set of robots for my kids, ive got a tank like robot that d...

Ah, gotcha. A pure omnidirectional one might be tough, but you should be able to find IR photodiodes that have 120-degree or 180-degree sorts of fields of view, so mounting two or three of those might work okay.

modest knot Oct 14, 2022, 11:02 PM

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3x 120 would be good, i imagine 180's are expensive :D... was just hoping that i didnt have to mount something like 12 different IR diodes

crystal ore Oct 14, 2022, 11:06 PM

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The other option would be a single upward-looking photodiode that's pointing at a reflective (or white) cone or dome above it to capture the light and direct it downward. That might keep your electronics simple at the cost of a little more mechanical complexity.

modest knot Oct 14, 2022, 11:08 PM

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i can find loads of 90 degree ones for almost nothing, might suck it up and go 4x90

wispy heron Oct 14, 2022, 11:12 PM

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lusty fossil In this case synthetic cotton and cotton.

Stopper knot, figure 8 is a super common reliable knot for ends. There are fancier ones.

lusty fossil Oct 14, 2022, 11:13 PM

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Thanks!

wispy heron Oct 14, 2022, 11:16 PM

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One of my fav resources for rope stuff is animated knots. But the definitive resource is Ashley’s Book of Knots, it’s actually a fun read, lots of stories about how the author learned about the knot. https://www.animatedknots.com/figure-8-knot

Figure 8 Knot

The Figure 8 Knot provides a quick and convenient stopper knot to prevent a line sliding out of sight, e.g., up inside the mast.

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In Ashley’s book he numbered pretty much every knot known at the time, so other rope resources often list the ABOK number

near mulch Oct 14, 2022, 11:19 PM

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Hello, I have an important question.. Does this work on hydroponics planter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA2ZSpLNxak

YouTube

Adafruit Industries

Smart IOT Pet Planter

Build a smart planter with Adafruit PyPortal and CircuitPython. Monitor your plants vitals with Adafruit STEMMA Soil Sensor and plot moisture and temperature data. Use Adafruit IO to create a visual dashboard with gauges of your plants water levels.

Learn Guide
https://learn.adafruit.com/pyportal-pet-planter-with-adafruit-io/

Code on GitHub
ht...

▶ Play video

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if you don't know just guess

ebon dew Oct 15, 2022, 2:27 AM

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Wouldn’t a float valve or water level sensor be a better idea for hydroponics?

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https://www.adafruit.com/product/4965

Simple Water Detection Sensor with Digital Output

Keep wet things wet and dry things dry by detecting when the dry things get wet by accident! This palm-sized cherry-red water sensor is simple and easy to implement in your ...

hexed grail Oct 15, 2022, 5:48 AM

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I'm getting 500 for everything on learn.adafruit.com... Is that a known thing, or is it just me? :P

reef bobcat Oct 15, 2022, 8:05 AM

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tio v2.1 is released - full release note here: https://github.com/tio/tio/releases/tag/v2.1

GitHub

Release tio v2.1 · tio/tio

Changes since tio v2.0:

Fix output line delay
Apply output line delay on lines ending with \n.
On most systems lines ends with \n or \r\n.

Do not print timestamps in hex mode

Improve input me...

ruby yacht Oct 15, 2022, 12:12 PM

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near mulch Hello, I have an important question.. Does this work on hydroponics planter? htt...

With the same components, no. With hydroponics, a moisture sensor will be saturated all the time, unless you will use it at level sensor (were are better alternatives). A dissolved oxygen sensor will be a good addition as well. Finally, you need to add a pump for ventilating the water or the plant (the activation could be based on dissolved oxygen measurements)

outer cloak Oct 15, 2022, 1:24 PM

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Does anyone who has experience in QEMU with ESP32??
I am facing an error: "qemu-system-extensa: failed to read the initial flash content".

analog tusk Oct 15, 2022, 1:39 PM

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hi hi

dark heath Oct 15, 2022, 9:54 PM

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Hey guys, I'm trying to make a command line application in Python with a lot of networking. I need some way to prompt user input, but also have it be interruptible if a network thread gets relevant messages. I've been REALLY struggling with how to do this, anyone have any ideas?

I need to be able to have user input at all times, but also be able to update the console at any time, if I just prompt input() on one thread and print on another I get a realllly jumbled console. So I need to somehow cancel a blocking input() call, grab a keypress to trigger the input, or have some sort of non-blocking input. I can't seem to get any working. Any ideas?

stiff bison Oct 15, 2022, 9:54 PM

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Hi y'all

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I just got a BPI-Leaf-S3. I can't seem to get it to flash with ESP-IDF

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any guide on setting this up?

stiff bison Oct 15, 2022, 10:28 PM

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Nevermind. it's so dumb-- I had to use a USB hub on my laptop because the USB C ports would not work for whatever reason.

worthy bear Oct 15, 2022, 11:15 PM

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Im trying to build sunglasses that take a signal from my phone and project it onto the lense so i can read lyrics secretly to sing along. My budget is very low so I was thinking I can use the lcd panel on a laptop or old phone and connect it to micro usb, micro hdmi, or usb c connecter and connect it to my phone. Can I cut the lcd panel carefully to make it an adequate size and what other connectors do I need to connect the panel to my iphone?

static flare Oct 15, 2022, 11:17 PM

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typically just putting a screen close to your face without optics won't work very well

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your eyes can't really focus on it well

late fulcrum Oct 15, 2022, 11:17 PM

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There are two tricky bits I can think of: one is to adapt the near display on the glasses so you can focus on it (may be possible with a simple lens of some sort), and getting the data from the phone. HDMI is probably unwieldy, so you'd presumably use USB and some sort of app to transfer data, and you'd need something to act as a USB endpoint, accept the data, and render it to the display.

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If it's an old-enough iPhone, you might be able to use the headphone jack to transfer data, which might be simpler.

lusty fossil Oct 15, 2022, 11:39 PM

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How to tell you really ought to just start over and calculate the proper distance in one go.

crystal ore Oct 16, 2022, 1:32 AM

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lusty fossil How to tell you really ought to just start over and calculate the proper distanc...

Heh heh. Personally I'd probably end up adding more constraints until the software ends up calculating it for me from other quantities.

lusty fossil Oct 16, 2022, 1:33 AM

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I do that too but sometimes you just cant

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I have a fun challenge to create something I've never attempted in CAD before

worthy bear Oct 16, 2022, 5:10 PM

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late fulcrum There are two tricky bits I can think of: one is to adapt the near display on t...

I think the trickiest bit is displaying in on the glasses. I thought about using the lcd panel without the backlight so it would stay see through and just outside light would work well enough but I don’t think I can cut the panel to the size of the lense

crystal ore Oct 16, 2022, 5:20 PM

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worthy bear I think the trickiest bit is displaying in on the glasses. I thought about using...

The trouble there is that you need lenses to focus the display so close to the eye, but then the outside world will be way out of focus if you're looking through the display. Optics for near-eye displays is not simple.

solar kindle Oct 16, 2022, 5:39 PM

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If you put a reverse image on the display and use the inside of the sunglasses' lens to reflect it, you'll gain a bit of focus (the inside of the lens will work as a concave mirror). Probably won't be quite enough, but you might be able to add a fresnel lens cut from a cheap credit card magnifier to assist.

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Worst case, you can use baseball cap and a phone. 😎 https://www.androidauthority.com/google-glasses-diy-edition-66046/

Android Authority

Man cannot wait for Google Glasses, creates his own

Can't wait for Google Glasses? You can now build your own Head-Up Display using just a few simple tools

crystal ore Oct 16, 2022, 5:55 PM

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https://www.skmproducts.com/product/original-tv-hat/

SKM Industries

SKM

The Original TV Hat

odd heath Oct 17, 2022, 12:52 AM

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what do solar panels do when you're not drawing power from them

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do they reflect the light they would've otherwise converted to electricity, or heat up

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or smth else

lusty fossil Oct 17, 2022, 12:53 AM

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Both

odd heath Oct 17, 2022, 12:53 AM

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ah

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would it visibly look different

lusty fossil Oct 17, 2022, 12:54 AM

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I don't believe so

odd heath Oct 17, 2022, 12:54 AM

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cool

thick wind Oct 17, 2022, 12:56 AM

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odd heath do they reflect the light they would've otherwise converted to electricity, or h...

https://solvoltaics.com/solar-panels-no-load/

odd heath Oct 17, 2022, 12:56 AM

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ty

night crescent Oct 17, 2022, 1:16 AM

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Desk of Ladyada - Ding Dong It's Time For PiCowbell! https://youtu.be/oykXJkb9RwM

YouTube

Adafruit Industries

Desk of Ladyada - Ding Dong It's Time For PiCowbell!

At the desk this week, we've got a fevah and the only cure is testing out the proto picowbell we fabbed this week. This board got a little distracted over the few months as parts started to come in, but we improved it in the meantime - now it has both a reset button and QT/Qwiic port & a nice silkscreen. let's try it out with the new CircuitPyth...

▶ Play video

thorn flax Oct 17, 2022, 1:50 AM

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Why are all of the pins discontinued on Adafruit?

late fulcrum Oct 17, 2022, 2:08 AM

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odd heath do they reflect the light they would've otherwise converted to electricity, or h...

They do heat up. Damaged cells do as well. I'm actually working on a project that does drone flyovers of solar fields with thermal cameras to identify malfunctioning cells.

burnt tendon Oct 17, 2022, 3:32 AM

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Sounds like an electrifying project.

crystal ore Oct 17, 2022, 3:59 AM

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burnt tendon Sounds like an electrifying project.

On a hot topic, no less.

burnt tendon Oct 17, 2022, 4:01 AM

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I'm excited to see these sort of ideas take flight, that's for sure.

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(I was at a thing and I made a bad pun and one of the people who I was meeting for the first time was all like "Oh, my husband makes all kinds of dad jokes. I can handle this." She... couldn't)

crystal ore Oct 17, 2022, 4:08 AM

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I guess some people just can't take a punch...

near mulch Oct 17, 2022, 4:18 AM

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ebon dew https://www.adafruit.com/product/4965

I really appreciate that. Thanks a lot

near mulch Oct 17, 2022, 4:19 AM

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ruby yacht With the same components, no. With hydroponics, a moisture sensor will be satura...

I see. Thanks for helping me I appreciate that!!!

lavish hawk Oct 17, 2022, 1:41 PM

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Anyone know where the source for circuitpython.org's uf2 builds is? I have a splinky and want to see if it's compatible with the itsybitsy rp2040

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https://github.com/micropython/micropython/tree/master/ports/rp2/boards/ADAFRUIT_ITSYBITSY_RP2040

GitHub

micropython/ports/rp2/boards/ADAFRUIT_ITSYBITSY_RP2040 at master · ...

MicroPython - a lean and efficient Python implementation for microcontrollers and constrained systems - micropython/ports/rp2/boards/ADAFRUIT_ITSYBITSY_RP2040 at master · micropython/micropython

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not much in there

tardy badger Oct 17, 2022, 2:29 PM

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lavish hawk Anyone know where the source for circuitpython.org's uf2 builds is? I have a spl...

https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython

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specifically: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/tree/main/ports/raspberrypi/boards/adafruit_itsybitsy_rp2040

lusty fossil Oct 17, 2022, 5:36 PM

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Do I pay for this or am I a chump?

crystal ore Oct 17, 2022, 5:46 PM

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lusty fossil Do I pay for this or am I a chump?

Need more context about why you want a very sharp corner to start with.

lusty fossil Oct 17, 2022, 5:46 PM

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I don't

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They are just neat

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Makes me feel cool

dapper seal Oct 17, 2022, 6:46 PM

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Are there any ansible experts on here?

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After installing ansible on a raspberry pi I don't have a /etc/ansible directory.

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ubuntu@control:~$ sudo apt install ansible
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
ansible is already the newest version (2.10.7+merged+base+2.10.8+dfsg-1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
ubuntu@control:~$ ansible --version
ansible 2.10.8
config file = None
configured module search path = ['/home/ubuntu/.ansible/plugins/modules', '/usr/share/ansible/plugins/modules']
ansible python module location = /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/ansible
executable location = /usr/bin/ansible
python version = 3.10.6 (main, Aug 10 2022, 11:40:04) [GCC 11.3.0]
ubuntu@control:/$

stable vapor Oct 17, 2022, 8:04 PM

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anyone use cloudflare tunnel to self host some things? Thinking of using it as a api gateway for some home things.

burnt tendon Oct 17, 2022, 8:40 PM

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lusty fossil Makes me feel cool

So you are trying to corner the market on cool?

lusty fossil Oct 17, 2022, 8:40 PM

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Yup

stray glade Oct 17, 2022, 9:26 PM

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hi are the default fuse bits on ATMEGA32u4 on the original Circuit Playground the same as the ones on the atmega32u4 datasheet?

stray glade Oct 17, 2022, 9:50 PM

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stray glade hi are the default fuse bits on ATMEGA32u4 on the original Circuit Playground th...

i have avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK (E:CB, H:D0, L:FF) are those ok?

true pebble Oct 17, 2022, 9:51 PM

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No idea where to ask this question: I have a Logitech G305 Lightspeed mouse. It takes a AA form-factor battery at 1.5v @ 100mA, according to the inside of the battery slot. I've just realized that the rechargeable battery I've been using runs 1.2v @ 130mA. Is it a concern that the slight overcurrent might be damaging the mouse in some way over time?

lusty fossil Oct 17, 2022, 9:54 PM

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So fortunately current works differently than that

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The amount of current a circuit draws depends on the contents and arrangement of said contents, not the current capability of the source. Your battery might be getting boosted to a higher voltage too. But your battery will never provide more than the circuit requires, or it's capable of, whichever is lower.

true pebble Oct 17, 2022, 10:01 PM

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Oh, neat. Alright! So as long as it performs as expected there's probably nothing to worry about?

lusty fossil Oct 17, 2022, 10:05 PM

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I would think there isn't, no.

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Unrelated to the above. Why doesn't aliexpress have a seller profile button? Or does it?

burnt tendon Oct 17, 2022, 11:20 PM

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tl;dr: It'll provide ampere power.

crystal ore Oct 17, 2022, 11:37 PM

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burnt tendon tl;dr: It'll provide ampere power.

Yep, so your resistors won't heat up. Over time you'll still have one cool ohm.

brave copper Oct 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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well...somehow I was doing stress testing for the cpu and it didn't kill it properly and couldn't do anything so I had to a force power off and now the SD card is dead

brave copper Oct 18, 2022, 1:28 AM

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well SD Card's NAND is destroyed....

worn kraken Oct 18, 2022, 1:40 AM

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Thinking of doing a Rift DK2 1440P mod... how high of a resolution can this baby push?https://www.adafruit.com/product/2219

TFP401 HDMI/DVI Decoder to 40-Pin TTL Breakout - With Touch

It's a mini HDMI decoder board! So small and simple, you can use this board as an all-in-one display driver for TTL displays, or perhaps decoding HDMI/DVI video for some other project. ...

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 1:53 AM

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crystal ore Yep, so your resistors won't heat up. Over time you'll still have one cool ohm.

Or Koolohm!

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 1:53 AM

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brave copper well SD Card's NAND is destroyed....

Is it the NAND or the controller?

thick wind Oct 18, 2022, 1:57 AM

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worn kraken Thinking of doing a Rift DK2 1440P mod... how high of a resolution can this baby...

1080p, according to the description. I don't think it can handle a fast enough pixel clock for 1440p.

worn kraken Oct 18, 2022, 1:57 AM

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thick wind 1080p, according to the description. I don't think it can handle a fast enough p...

hmmm thats tough. Are there any chips out there that can handle a 1440 conversion

thick wind Oct 18, 2022, 1:58 AM

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Yes, but not sure if there are any breakout boards readymade for it. What display are you using?

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 1:59 AM

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1440p is easy at 2fps...

thick wind Oct 18, 2022, 2:01 AM

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Ah, right.

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Though if it's for a Rift I assume 30fps is too low...

worn kraken Oct 18, 2022, 2:18 AM

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thick wind Yes, but not sure if there are any breakout boards readymade for it. What displa...

I was considering going the cheap way and ripping off a display of a Note 4 or Note Edge

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I wish I could just plug em into the DK2's board (which WOULD work physically since it comes with a Note 3 screen) but the signal converter is too weak for 1440 :(

brave copper Oct 18, 2022, 2:31 AM

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late fulcrum Is it the NAND or the controller?

SD's NAND Flash is dead I've tried to attempt making it new again...that stress testing broke it

stray glade Oct 18, 2022, 5:45 AM

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hello where can i find the default Fuse bit settings for the circuit playground (original developer edition)?

blissful roost Oct 18, 2022, 7:56 AM

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late fulcrum Or Koolohm!

Now that's an interesting way to use old wine corks... 😅

stray glade Oct 18, 2022, 9:48 AM

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where to find more detailed documentation on adafruit circuit playground??

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like how it was programmed

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i only found datasheets for the microcontroller and the parts on the board (speaker, sound sensor, etc) but not anything more specific like default fuse bits on circuit playground

ebon dew Oct 18, 2022, 11:23 AM

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@stray glade are you looking for info on circuit python programming or perhaps the bootloader firmware? There are guides on adafruits website in the main learn tab. You can search guides for circuit Python essentials or how to make your own custom board.

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Not sure what you mean by default fuse bits. Is there a micro fuse on the board?

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 11:37 AM

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These microcontrollers have a small array of "fuse" bits that set basic operating parameters like clock source, they're looking for the correct setup for that particular board.

stray glade Oct 18, 2022, 12:12 PM

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ebon dew Not sure what you mean by default fuse bits. Is there a micro fuse on the board?

fuse bits on the ATMEGA32u4 on the circuit playground
im not sure if they were set the same as the default on the atmega32u4 datasheet so i want to make sure mine are correct

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 12:16 PM

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I could probably dig out an old Circuit Playground and read off the fuse bits, but there ought to be an easier way to find out the shipped configuration.

stray glade Oct 18, 2022, 12:17 PM

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yes where is the documentation

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i cant find anything

ebon dew Oct 18, 2022, 2:07 PM

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this sounds like a question for ask an engineer which is Wednesday nights on adafruits live stream. you can ask a question at anytime during the segment and they'll be answered at the end of a segment by Lady Ada herself... who is the one who created the device you want to know about. Can't think of a better way to get a direct answer other than using the website feedback form to ask your question via contact form.

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 4:42 PM

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my art degree has become more useless than before

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 4:44 PM

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It's a degree, which puts you one up on me.

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There's a large dictionary company that has a requirement for a degree – any degree – for applications (source: Kory Stamper's book "Word by Word: The Secret Life of Dictionaries")

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:19 PM

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late fulcrum It's a degree, which puts you one up on me.

yes a piece of paper
the joke it's about the fact that an art degree doesn't enable you to do any protected job like what happens with tons of other sort of jobs, and ence you're broke,
now with ai thing you will be even more broke

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:21 PM

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Engineering degrees don’t protect your job. A startup my wife got hired as a contract admin assistant, laid off 200+ engineers last week

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:21 PM

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by protected I mean every job that does require you a license to be able to legally do x job, like electricians, barbers, lawyers, pharmacists, and whatever
~~lobbies do like to outlaw competition by making it illegal via regulatory capture~~

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:21 PM

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It’s a nice piece of paper that says I did the things

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At least in the US

wispy heron Oct 18, 2022, 5:22 PM

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I would rather ai be tools (or collaborators) with human artists. I have no interest in art that doesn’t include artists actually getting paid.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:24 PM

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100%

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:24 PM

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tardy badger At least in the US

in Italy it's the total opposite, there's no competition, it has been made unlawful by the mole of laws
the economy is bad because of that, so they daily find scapegoats on minorances, be immigrants, young gen, gays and whatever

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:24 PM

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wispy heron I would rather ai be tools (or collaborators) with human artists. I have no inte...

but how can you tell?

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:25 PM

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Unfortunately the way the world currently works, the wealthy pick successful artists. That would change if tax laws didn’t allow the wealthy to scapegoat taxes by buying art and donating it for a tax write off

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And many every day people, more particularly Americans (because we like cheap stuff) don’t like paying the price for someone’s time and talent into an art piece. So a piece take took 100 minimum wage hours would rarely sell for $725

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:27 PM

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usa market is more interesting unlike here
it's worse than mexico if that's a correct analogy

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:27 PM

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They’d likely sell prints for $10 a piece

wispy heron Oct 18, 2022, 5:28 PM

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dusty citrus but how can you tell?

Mostly I buy from artists who I’ve already been following, so it’s easy to know their art came from their hand. Most of the artists I follow are kinda cranky about AI right now so it’s doubly easy to know it wasn’t generated art.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:28 PM

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My mom for a long time used to do handmade custom quilts. She doesn’t do it much anymore because people have almost zero concept of the costs of materials, power, and labor

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:28 PM

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tardy badger And many every day people, more particularly Americans (because we like cheap st...

the money on art is on 3d
for now it's untouched, I say for now

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more specifically on architecture or automotive there's tons of job

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:29 PM

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She had a pretty successful business up until around 2008/2009

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Something changed with people’s psyche after the Great Recession

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:30 PM

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tardy badger Something changed with people’s psyche after the Great Recession

2008/2009 wasn't also the boom of internet/socials?
it might even be from cheap workforce entering the market

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:30 PM

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People started wanting handmade goods at Walmart prices more and more. Eroding a lot of maker businesses

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08/09 was the start of the Great Recession. People had less money and had to be scrappy.

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:31 PM

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If I'd rather try to write C for my edgebadge, where do I start? havent seen any info on this

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:32 PM

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dusty citrus If I'd rather try to write C for my edgebadge, where do I start? havent seen any...

You might look at some books on beginning with C

wispy heron Oct 18, 2022, 5:33 PM

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It’s complicated when working in the tech field. Automation is the way of the future, making machines do the work for us, building tools to make humans have to do less work. Results in loss of jobs, and people still need to pay bills. At my first programming job I found a way to automate a really big daily task and a coworker begged me to not finish it because it would eliminate half of his job description.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:33 PM

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Automation only really destroys low/mid skill jobs

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:34 PM

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I doubt it

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:34 PM

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Even though we have no code systems, they are behemoths underneath that require immense amount of maintenance to keep going

wispy heron Oct 18, 2022, 5:34 PM

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Maybe. But some people have low/mid skills and still need to pay mortgages.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:34 PM

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It just just shifts what “entry level” jobs are

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Most people don’t have the time and money to upskill to take those jobs

wispy heron Oct 18, 2022, 5:35 PM

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Yup.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:36 PM

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There is part of me that wishes Adafruit had some industry recognized skill accreditation so people could take what they learn developing on Adafruit platforms and use it as like an apprenticeship to get into more technical roles

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Could you imagine

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Adafruit has the advantage of having the learning platform, the manufacturing prowess, and the community to make something like that super valuable

wispy heron Oct 18, 2022, 5:37 PM

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If open source was better respected then being recognized by adafruit would count for something in the industry.

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:38 PM

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not going to happen
tuition system is a lobby itself
there are some certs from big companies, but they aren't that widely recognized

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:38 PM

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The funny thing is, tons of major companies use Adafruit products for prototyping

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It’s pretty wild.

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:38 PM

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also schools do use their products

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:39 PM

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The Google IT Cert is probably the most recognized cheap certification you can get

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:39 PM

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but they also work like companies in the end so...

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:39 PM

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I’m just saying Adafruit is a company uniquely positioned to make the streets to tech pipeline a reality

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More than a lot of companies are

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I don’t really know if it is something they would pursue though. It’s an expensive endeavor

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They already work with Microsoft on some cool embedded to azure stuff which is neat

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:42 PM

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btw dunno in the us but here lately there's the war to make students come back at school under ethical like pretext like they can't learn online and similar bs
but in reality it's because industries are losing money, like they aren't eating there, they don't need to buy anymore new books each year, and eccetera

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:43 PM

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Anyway, there are tons of professions and trades that are falling short of new workers because obtaining the training is not time/cost effective for the average worker

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Like solar installation, hvac, commercial repair, etc..

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:45 PM

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dusty citrus btw dunno in the us but here lately there's the war to make students come back a...

I see this happening. My wife is doing cyber security through WGU and getting a test proctored online is a huge headache. You have to show every inch of the space you’re testing in to prove you’re not going to cheat.

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Yet I’ve seen people chegg test questions in a physical classroom

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Which is a little hilarious

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 5:47 PM

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oh we need training, but us younger generation are supposed to train clerk of where you're working at without any extras, because the employer owns the place and you
back to the feudal system, but our feudal lords are genx and boomers

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 5:48 PM

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Yeah. And now we have record inflation which is being drug on my retailers upset that people wanted more money to work.

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Anyway, to make sure we keep this from getting to cynical, perhaps we should steer it back towards tech 😬

frigid tiger Oct 18, 2022, 5:49 PM

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tardy badger Yet I’ve seen people chegg test questions in a physical classroom

Cant say I feel too bad even if people cheat online

blissful roost Oct 18, 2022, 5:58 PM

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blissful roost Oct 18, 2022, 5:58 PM

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frigid tiger Cant say I feel too bad even if people cheat online

Or post stuff like that on their LinkedIn account... ?

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 6:08 PM

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frigid tiger Cant say I feel too bad even if people cheat online

Same. School is hard and most of what’s “cheating” people do in the workplace as part of their job. Looking stuff up to solve problems

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 6:43 PM

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dusty citrus If I'd rather try to write C for my edgebadge, where do I start? havent seen any...

You can program it with the Arduino IDE, which supports the Arduino language "Wiring", which is just a dialect of C++, which is in turn a dialect of C. I program Arduino stuff in C all the time, it works nicely.

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 6:44 PM

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tardy badger I see this happening. My wife is doing cyber security through WGU and getting a ...

I have to go through that for many of my certifications. It's a giant pain, but less so than driving an hour each way, emptying my pockets, and taking the test at a testing facility.

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 9:23 PM

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TIL Google Maps includes useful info like "LGBTQ friendly" in results. This makes me happy.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 9:35 PM

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Small but subtle things

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In other news, a court in Alberta has deemed that software engineers are not “engineers” because at least in Albert, there’s no professional organization that software engineers are part of that sets ethical and professional standards and regulates its membership based on those roles

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 9:37 PM

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That does explain a lot of software...

lusty fossil Oct 18, 2022, 9:38 PM

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late fulcrum TIL Google Maps includes useful info like "LGBTQ friendly" in results. This mak...

Now do they store and sell the location data of visitors?

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 9:39 PM

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In the US, you can’t call yourself an engineer in most states unless you’ve passed the P.E. Exam and are part of your state’s professional engineer organization.

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You can say you are a specific engineer if you work for an organization that hires and retains P.E. Certified engineers

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Even if you have an engineering degree from an accredited institution . Pretty interesting

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 9:40 PM

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In what context? Who regulates this? Lemme give it a try. "I am an engineer." Boom. I called myself an engineer and I've never taken a P.E. exam.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 9:41 PM

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States regulate it

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 9:41 PM

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I ... don't feel regulated.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 9:41 PM

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If I start a business, I can’t offer “engineering services”

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I’ll get sued by the state engineering board for offering services without being a licensed engineer

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I know people who have been sent cease and desist letters from state engineering licensing boards for selling “engineering services”

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Though the state won’t come in this discord and tell you to stop, if you set up a business to sell engineering services explicitly, they likely will ask you to not to or be fined.

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 9:45 PM

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My contrarian nature makes me want to explore the limits of what I could get away with. What if I advertised "enginering services" instead? What if I offered Certifications for "injeniring"? How far do I have to modify the word to get protection?

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 9:54 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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I had make sure I omitted engineering in any close form from service descriptions on my website for my company when I had it setup

late fulcrum Oct 18, 2022, 9:57 PM

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The last time I had a company, it was completely generic: "Vicuna Services" could offer just about anything.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 10:04 PM

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Some engineering licensing I get. You wouldn’t want just anyone building bridges and sky scrapers or designing high voltage electrical grids.

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But gating the term engineering with a 4 year degree and 1x 100 question exam (FE) and a second professional experience based exam (PE) is a little bit insane.

thick wind Oct 18, 2022, 10:37 PM

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The term “engineer” is really only regulated in specific industries, if I recall correctly. If you’re just designing consumer product’s, a PE isn’t necessarily applicable or relevant.

lusty fossil Oct 18, 2022, 10:42 PM

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I reject the notion that anyone called an engineer, legally or otherwise, was involved in the creation of my last microwave

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:14 PM

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Engineer gets used fast and loose. I only typically regard engineer as a classically trained engineer. Techs, and the people who hold positions without actual classical engineering are just technicians in my estimation. People I work with describe themselves as engineers and I’d never use that phrase to describe myself.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:15 PM

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thick wind The term “engineer” is really only regulated in specific industries, if I recall...

It is regulated differently depending on the state/country you live in. Usually requiring some licensure to call yourself that.

blissful roost Oct 18, 2022, 11:15 PM

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"Software engineer"... No. Stop it!

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:15 PM

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blissful roost "Software engineer"... No. Stop it!

It’s sorta like dev

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Yeah I’m a dev.

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I can do hello world

blissful roost Oct 18, 2022, 11:16 PM

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Lol

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:16 PM

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To sell engineering services in Utah for instance, no matter what kind of “engineering” service you offer, you have to be licensed by the state to do so

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:16 PM

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I developed it in vscode

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It’s fine

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I write programs for fun.
Oh what do you write?
Blink…

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:16 PM

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Lol

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:17 PM

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But I do agree that some terms and licensures aren’t accurate.

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I’ve met electricians who can pretty well only wire light switches. But know the code well enough and did an apprenticeship long enough to get their license.

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elmshrug

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:18 PM

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But generally there is software development and software engineering. One is more just “code up this app” (software dev), and “we need to architect a multi platform system the uses X,Y,Z systems; and operate with a specified level of certainty.” (Engineering)

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It’s about the approach and scope

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Though admittedly, software “engineering” is more akin to Systems Engineering

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:20 PM

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Sure.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:21 PM

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I don’t think semantics are that important for someone who mostly does development work

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:22 PM

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I don’t think semantics degrees really matter in the grand scale of the labor force either. Titles are strange and loosely given.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:22 PM

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I only call myself a “software engineer” because I earned an accredited engineering degree.

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It’s personal preference

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:22 PM

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I mean. That seems like a fair estimation I’d gather.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:23 PM

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I just tend to look at engineering as being a methodical approach to solving problems.

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:24 PM

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I’m more of an excavation technician. (I dig ditches.)

stray glade Oct 18, 2022, 11:24 PM

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ebon dew this sounds like a question for ask an engineer which is Wednesday nights on ada...

is it recorderd?

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:24 PM

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Most people can solve problems, but few people solve them really well. And that’s what engineering is gear to do. Teach people to solve problems well.

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And you don’t need a degree to earn learn how to solve problems well

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But you do need a degree to get an engineering job unfortunately

ebon dew Oct 18, 2022, 11:27 PM

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@stray glade yes, it's available on the Adafruit YouTube channel immediately after the show airs.

stray glade Oct 18, 2022, 11:27 PM

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Okey thanks

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:27 PM

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tardy badger But you do need a degree to get an engineering job unfortunately

Hard disagree. I’ve seen many a working individual take an engineering title in the Midwest with no degree.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:28 PM

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dusty citrus Hard disagree. I’ve seen many a working individual take an engineering title in ...

What kind of engineering though?

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If it’s software engineering or related, I’ve seen that happen too.

ebon dew Oct 18, 2022, 11:29 PM

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i think there's a distinction between calling yourself a programmer or a software engineer. the word engineer implies formal education.

stray glade Oct 18, 2022, 11:29 PM

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ebon dew <@786301097953591326> yes, it's available on the Adafruit YouTube channel immedi...

where do u ask the questions?

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:29 PM

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Though the threshold to get a software job without a degree is tough. Some people have the grit and do it in a pretty short time.

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:30 PM

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ebon dew i think there's a distinction between calling yourself a programmer or a softwar...

That’s the discussion

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The only time I’ve seen education put a hard stop is if they want someone with a stamp

ebon dew Oct 18, 2022, 11:30 PM

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during the live show, you an ask a question anytime while they're live streaming, they have someone log all the questions, then answer questions towards the end of the program.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:30 PM

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But I’ve seen people build some amazing stuff but still get a solid stream of no’s

dusty citrus Oct 18, 2022, 11:30 PM

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elmshrug

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We both have seen sides of it

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:31 PM

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Obviously and engineering degree also isn’t a guarantee you’ll get a job

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I know people I graduated with who took over a year to get an offer.

stray glade Oct 18, 2022, 11:31 PM

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ebon dew during the live show, you an ask a question anytime while they're live streaming...

ok :(
it will be 2am i will sleeping

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:32 PM

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I know people who never did get an engineering job. But in some cases there were some other things in the way.

ebon dew Oct 18, 2022, 11:32 PM

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i know people who identify as werewolves but that doesn't make them one. by implying you have a formal education, specifically a degree, when you do not is... fraudulent.

tardy badger Oct 18, 2022, 11:33 PM

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For the role I work in, you don’t need a 4 year degree in comp sci, or an engineering degree. You can get it with a 2 year degree and 2+ years of experience for the entry level role.

ebon dew Oct 18, 2022, 11:33 PM

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like i can say i have a phd, but if i actually don't, that's misrepresentation... fraud.

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i can say i'm an engineer but if i'm actually not, again, fraud.