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woven mirage
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Fun!

split gazelle
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great projects everyone! and great job hosting @haughty quiver !

robust horizon
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awwww next time mouse

waxen thistle
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Thanks @haughty quiver for hosting!

verbal river
drowsy inlet
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super coolness all. thanks for sharing!

haughty quiver
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thanks very much everyone -- terrific, inspiring projects

formal ferry
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Okay, lots of projects and code to go riffling around in.

open girder
turbid hill
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Ok now we need the engine in enigneer

ionic garnet
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Thanks @haughty quiver Since I am somewhat famous for a high risk tolerance and fearlessness, it's impossible that I chickened out at the last minute! But the reality is when I heard few minutes I wanted to see others more than explain mine. With the new LiveUpdate feature I am adding it will be a more complete demo. I was cheekey calling the feature LiveUpdate because I inevented that in the mid 1990's at Symantec and it's still in use today!

haughty quiver
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so great!

ionic garnet
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I was also humbled by the advanced projects others had. Although I have a get out of jail card: I was one of the inventors of Jibo!

short chasm
turbid hill
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So I got my Greaseweazle 7 plus via usps mail. need the fluper duper and the feather hat for floppy interface

verbal river
dim knot
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open girder
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10% discount code, code is: VEML http://www.adafruit.com #askanengineer @open girder

cinder wind
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I caught part of that stream, I loved Limor's analogy that Adafruit & Pimoroni aren't competitors really but more like skaters at a skatepark, riffing on each others "tricks", improving them. So good!

waxen thistle
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We all see farther when we stand on each other's shoulders.

ionic garnet
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peeps be beefin over everything

simple shard
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I have a VEML on my Majora's Mask PCB, I use it to adjust the maximum brightness on the LEDs

ionic garnet
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Love you and Pimorony. Their Tiny 2040 was big for me in early days.

simple shard
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The Circuit Python for the VEML is pretty solid and easy to use.

formal ferry
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The Pimoroni Hyperpixel saved my Pip-Boy project that I was about to give up on after years of development, but the other 75% of the development boards are from Adafruit.

dim knot
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The Great Search: Positive to negative 12V power - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zivv78kv2n0

The Apple Disk ][ drive is a converted Shugart drive that has three power supplies: 5V, +12V and -12V. The 5V and 12V are for the motor control. Negative 12V is a bit of a pain to generate, but thankfully the -12V seems to only be used for biasing a trim potentiometer. So, we don't need a lot of current. Still, we do need to generate -12V, let's...

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open girder
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yah - pimoroni and adafruit are good examples of bringing folks together, we'll try and do more shows like that - pt

dim knot
cinder wind
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I often do "site:reddit.com searchterm" on Google to use google search to search reddit

ionic garnet
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I agree the invoices are aces

short chasm
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what's the product number for the cookies?

split gazelle
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These are amazing

open surge
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I want that belt!

cinder wind
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where else do we wear pants? it means going outside I think

short chasm
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i'll be at HOPE! it'll be my first one 🙂

ionic garnet
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I was a CTO at a company in San Francisco. Before a VC meeting, the CEO said: Rich you should dye your hair blue. Civil disobedience: I died it green

drowsy inlet
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would be hilarious if, when you pushed the belt button, a quarter fell to the floor

ionic garnet
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the things we did to raise vc money in the late 1990s!

drowsy inlet
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have a magnet or such holding the coin and the button push deactivates to drop

ionic garnet
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Oh boy.... I worked on half a dozen of such products in the 1980s/90s

drowsy inlet
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so reminds me of Adventure

ionic garnet
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I still work on audio visualization tools

split gazelle
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Amazing

cinder wind
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ooo pt's got a 1010music nanobox!

urban gale
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I remember something called Cthugha for PC. soo good

ionic garnet
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I remember in L.A. and Silicon Valley the merging of science experts and artistic people to create the music visualization was super exciting and cutting edge

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LIKE

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More like Lucy in the SKy

verbal river
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"Just slightly ahead of our time."

urban gale
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I feel like the Peter Max iSongbooks were a callback to these

pearl shoal
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I had one of those! They were awesome!

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AM only

viral sail
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Apollo-era Panasonic

shy topaz
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Nothing but Trumpers and bible thumpers on AM anymore.

cinder wind
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omg this whole Toot-a-loop thing deserves a modern remake using open-source tools, MP3s, and 3d printing

urban gale
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there's still a lot of public radio on AM

pearl shoal
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I can still feel the weight of that thing

cinder wind
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no black glass rectangles in the Toot-a-loop world

ionic garnet
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Build your own AM radio broadcaster (please conult with the FCC first!)

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I know low power FM is ok

cinder wind
delicate fractal
ionic garnet
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I have to be careful. In the 1970s someone impersonating me at my family home got a talking to from men in a black van claiming to be FCC

delicate fractal
dim knot
digital crescent
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@paper peak is there a way to make the HttpServer that you showed tonight non-blocking?

pearl shoal
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FYI, please keep Chris Young in your thoughts - he's been in the hospital w/pneumonia & is finally getting out today

dim knot
paper peak
cinder wind
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Perl!

upper sandal
paper peak
upper sandal
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I was in the works of pushing it to the bundle today 😛

open surge
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Thanks @open girder for the podcast shout out! 2 more weeks...

ionic garnet
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they claimed that SOMEONE was operating a CB linear amplifier. I heard that teenage boy took delivery of their message, but in a few days reports of a roving amplified CB was appearing all over the state of Connecticut. But what kind of twisted teenager would build a linear amp from a library book and somehow make it work (inefficiently). I will look into doing AM as long as FCC will allow it. For reason they think I built that linear amp!

delicate fractal
ionic garnet
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what should I buy on the site tonight?

cinder wind
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The Adafruit Cinematic Universe

ionic garnet
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picked up the VEML7700 already

dim knot
ionic garnet
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You guyz have guidez

paper peak
waxen thistle
ionic garnet
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and I love your guides. Though I suspect Kattni dreads my piddly comments. I've been in software biz so long I really appreciate peep who take time to give feedback. So @clear matrix you forgive me right?

delicate fractal
clear matrix
haughty quiver
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@open girder that toot-a-loop font! 😍

open girder
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@haughty quiver the toot-a-loop effort looks kinda like panasonic was doing a world's fair of electronics, what was possible at the time, and it was super weird/cool -pt

haughty quiver
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Amazing

open girder
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i think we can help bring back imagining more like this 🙂

urban gale
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My mom had one of those bowling-ball radios. Panasonic Pet was it?

waxen thistle
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For a personal project, I looked up radios designed in the Mid-century modern/googie/retrofuturism style ... and there are so many bright, colorful designs.

delicate fractal
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Today I learned that I've been misspelling and mispronouncing zoetrope all my life!

split gazelle
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Reminds me a little of the ikea/teenage engineering collab

hasty frigate
waxen thistle
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And it was mechanically solid.....it was a very strong, sturdy plunger. It's beyond words how much fun it was to put it and feel it mechanically change the tracks.

delicate fractal
robust horizon
hasty frigate
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QUESTION: My kids got me a gift Adabox for the Holidays. It’s just a single box, and I’m looking forward to this Spring. I’m concerned that the list is closed, and I’m not signed up yet for a subscription past by gifted box. Does the gifted box guarantee me a spot for the Summer box?

dim knot
verbal river
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well it's called SAMD51 so of course it takes 51 weeks

dim knot
ionic garnet
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YAY

upper sandal
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pink is the new Adafruit black

cinder wind
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The "RP" in RP2040 stands for "radical pink"

grand tusk
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🐽

delicate fractal
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Why just the 2040 boards? I'd love to see more boards with interesting colours!

ionic garnet
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Love the pinl boards. Sends a statement to women of the world and more importantly to the men: Women make great engineers!

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it's fungible 1

dim knot
ionic garnet
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i had that in my cart until it exceeded $100, so I prioritized more urgent needs

cinder wind
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woo hoo @clear matrix!

upper sandal
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I kind of want a deep green board, you could say it's minted

waxen thistle
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Thanks @clear matrix for making such an awesome board!

split gazelle
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Yay @clear matrix !

grand tusk
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120 kattni-lux?

upper sandal
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(not the traditional green)

dull fox
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im trying to add l2 r2 buttons and psp 1000series joysitck on my pigrrl zero with using a zero 2 w and i dont know how to do it

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im trying to add l2 r2 buttons and psp 1000series joysitck on my pigrrl zero with using a zero 2 w and i dont know how to do it

short chasm
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Question: I have an issue saving CircuitPython code to a Feather M0 Express, which includes libraries to run a SSD1306 OLED. I believe there wasn't enough memory... does that seem right? I had no issues uploading similar Arduino code to the same board. And no issues uploading the CircuitPython code to the Feather RP2040.

cinder wind
delicate fractal
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My son wants to learn to program, and I don't know where to start. Ideas?

drowsy inlet
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python

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or could get a CPX and use MakeCode block programming

simple shard
wary fern
open surge
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@delicate fractal I agree with Python or CircuitPython, like the CircuitPlayground Express mentioned above

short chasm
open surge
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nothing like seeing your code light up an LED or make a sound

echo canopy
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Question adafruit @open girder

Adafruit Kee Boar — can you connect a USB keyboard ⌨️ and with Arduino do different commands based on keys?

dull fox
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im trying to add l2 r2 buttons and psp 1000series joysitck on my pigrrl zero with using a zero 2 w and i dont know how to do it

waxen thistle
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@delicate fractal I suggest taking a look at Microsoft's MakeCode. It's a very friendly way to introduce a non-coder to a programming mentality in a friendly, approachable way -- you code by clicking and dragging "blocks" around. And you can expand with accessing the code directly too.

And it's compatible with a multitude of Adafruit boards.

delicate fractal
dull fox
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im trying to add l2 r2 buttons and psp 1000series joysitck on my pigrrl zero with using a zero 2 w and i dont know how to do it

open surge
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@delicate fractal It's hard to say, everyone learns differently. Some like videos, some like books, etc.

wary fern
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Question: I have a three pin toggle switch that I am trying to run power for a raspberry pi zero w through but it seems to be restricting the current. It is rated for 4A and the pi shouldn't be using more than 2.5A. Any ideas what might be going on? I am powering the pi by feeding 5v and GND to the gpio pins.

ionic garnet
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Question: what is the best, simplest, fairly efficient way to ensure the proper voltage? I fried neopixels by accidentally plugging into 12VDC. I want to step down or simply block the wrong voltage. Suggestions

shy topaz
quiet bay
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Question: @open girder I noticed in one of the temp sensor datasheets, the AHT20, it says that it needs to be rehydrated for a certain amount of time above a certain humidity. Is this done on the breakout boards that you guys carry? Is it is a problem if it isn't done?

delicate fractal
wary fern
scenic prawn
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Question for PT. Can I sort sensors, boards, or x by price?

ionic garnet
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I stopped buying ATSAMD21s and now stick to ATSAMD51 cortex M4 based boards

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the best solution is for me to stop being stupid and plugging in a power supply clearly labeled 12V!!!

quiet bay
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Awesome, thanks!

ionic garnet
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and I love the way the first pixel acts as a fuse. It saved the other rings connected but killed off that first board

cinder wind
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as long as I can sort by PCB color

viral sail
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The Adafruit Great Search - coming soon.

wary fern
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Question: what do you guys think of rust for embedded development?

turbid hill
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Question: now that I have my greaseweazle and floppys and cables when will you have the Flooper duper and the feather hat boards for floppys ready

split gazelle
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thanks for a great show!

verbal river
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Bye

viral sail
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Thanks and good night. 🌕

ionic garnet
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Bye! Bought stuff. Effective marketing and good content as always @open girder

urban gale
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Great show! Thanks all!

delicate fractal
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Sending NFT-Time-codes? 😄

grand tusk
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You go, Chris!

waxen thistle
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Thanks for another excellent evening of shows @open girder -- and thanks to @haughty quiver for hosting Show & Tell! You're all awesome, keep making it a great day.

dense cliff
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👍

cinder wind
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Thanks Limor & pt!

drowsy inlet
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Thanks @open girder !

short chasm
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.... and scene.

delicate fractal
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Exit, Stage Right!

haughty quiver
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Thanks all!!

turbid hill
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Ditto

ionic garnet
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I had told myself I would not buy anything on the show tonight. I can't even implement 90% of what I've already bought. I do love supporting @open girder. Plus I have been hatching a plan to use my accumulated excess to offer chances for people (young or old, female or male or...a chance to experience the thrill of commanding some electrons to due their bidding! Maybe there's a tax benefit to creating a charitable instrument but that is not as important to me as providing some young women and men in middle school or up a chace to fall in love with making. Or perhaps at a retirement home or rehab center where people need things to occupy their minds and present career and hobby opportunities. I guess this also rationalizes why I need over $100 of stuff per week without even knowing how I will use it! I bet many/most of us here have a similar issue. I need a 12-step meeting: Hi I'm Rich. I'm an Adafruit addict codependent on neopixels. I've been purchase free for 0 days amd taking it one step at time I forecast perhaps I could go 2 maybe up to 6 days without indulging. Is there a medication for this expensive habit?

delicate fractal
turbid hill
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yeah my addiction is well entrenched

ionic garnet
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It's ok. My habit is staying flat at $100 a day. Of course, if there would be a new MCU or other cool technology introduced this could rise. For reals: I sketched out a budget for a couple of my ideas: a hackathon at the company that I am CTO of to have our different development regions around the globe to have a fun, friendly, informative social experience in small teams ompete on maker crafts pitting Latin America against Eastern Europe against Vietnam. We did something like this at Jibo and it was awe inspiring. Or the above idea of teaching/gifting/providing experiences with electronics to people ready to fall in love, find a career path, ot just exercise their minds. When I sketched out my ideas for this in Nov 2020, I estimated $1000 a month or more and would need to perhap get investors/co-contributors. No big deal, as a startup CTO I raise money a lot! For now I've toned done the order of magnitude and keeping it self-funded. My partner Sue loves to yell out: The box from your girlfriend in NYC sent you another box of gifts." I am really insulted when she insuiates Limor is my girlfriend without any regard for how magnetic and adorable Phil is. Haven't we moved past these ancient gender bias assumptions. Or doesn't shee realize I have great fondness for Limor and Phil but it's the buzz I get from making that I am having a social cheating relationship with! Admit it, ypu too have marveled at the Pink Feather RP2040 or the Feather ESP32-S2 w/TFT. What about the aptly named QT Py ESP32-S2 in just the right shade of purple PCB?

delicate fractal
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g'nite!

strong acorn
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I think of a well-stocked electronics "lab" just like someone who works on mechanical stuff would have cabinets and drawers full of tools and fasteners and the like. When you need a part for something, it's there and you don't have to wait a week or whatever. 🙂

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(that said, I do have way too many microcontrollers... need to find a good home for some of them)

ionic garnet
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see you all. Just made an exquisite nightime smoothy. Fresh pineapple (half), a cup of fresh strawberries and fresh blueberries (roughly 1/2 cup each), one fresh mandalin tangerine, a drop of pulpy orange juice to give it a liquid-quality, and 3 big scoops of vanilla frozen yogurt. Then blended with this magical hand chopper, juicer, food processor thingy. I make these often but don't always have fresh pineapple or one of the other fruits so I keep frozen ones in case I am Jonesing for one of my protein, fruity shakes. I used to add a little protein powder but I frown on chemically-products like that. Anyhow, the large proportion of a just-cut pineapple was the magic tonight. Here's a "Where's Ada" game. I will explain

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In the shot there are numerous Adafruit, Pimoroni, and various compoents scatted across the desk on top of and around my vanity copy of a product I co-invented on the cover of Time Magazine. I have many copies of this particular issue, In faxt I bought out newstands at SFO the day it came out. But lots of juicy little tidbits of maker stuff along with Pinestrawbluemandarinberryapple froyo smoothy.

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I sense a tummy ache in my near future. Half a pineapple plus two cups other fresh fruirs and 3 huge scoops of Vanilla Frozen Yogurt has gotta be a little above moderate levels.

steep dew
clear matrix
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@cinder wind @waxen thistle @split gazelle 😊 Thank you!

clear matrix
nova totem
lavish patrol
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Greetings, good people. 👋

drowsy inlet
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hello all

lavish patrol
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Bleeps, Bloops and Lars are imminent...

haughty quiver
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ever get that feeling that there's something you're supposed to be doing right now?

lavish patrol
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Happens to me all the time...

haughty quiver
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me too. OH THE SHOW!

viral sail
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Good afternoon.

ionic garnet
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hi friends!

cinder wind
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Hi John! I spy a Perfect Circuit shirt!

burnt aspen
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Hi @lavish patrol

lavish patrol
ionic garnet
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and when we say Live we mean LIVE

lavish patrol
burnt aspen
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why not chat in the youtube Andy ?

sterile forge
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Hello JP from Florida

lavish patrol
clever summit
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👋 🇸🇪

burnt aspen
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oh haha, hej Jonny

clever summit
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Keyboard battery dead....

burnt aspen
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whoops

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get a wired one for a while 😉

ionic garnet
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This week's Product Spend of thr Week!

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I bought that friend and still don't know what it's for!

smoky island
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🥣

cinder wind
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And they say you can't buy friends...

ionic garnet
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I put in 35 years writing serial code why do I want to go back? Legacy hardware probably the most viable reason

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I bought two Todbot

drowsy inlet
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no sound @haughty quiver

lavish patrol
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Audio @haughty quiver

ionic garnet
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no hear

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@haughty quiver Mayday

lavish patrol
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🔈

dry marten
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Sound sound soud

viral sail
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There is no sound in space (parsec).

drowsy inlet
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👂

lavish patrol
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👂

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🦻

ionic garnet
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if a tree falls in a vacuun did it really fall?

lavish patrol
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Lol

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0db...

drowsy inlet
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This looks like it's probably the best parsec ever, too

dry marten
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@haughty quiver your sound is off

drowsy inlet
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parsec take 2?

cinder wind
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This is how they did CircuitPython Parsec's in the old days before the talkies

ionic garnet
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Not one bit

drowsy inlet
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can hear you now

ionic garnet
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YES

lavish patrol
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Audio good. 👍

burnt aspen
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LOL the audio 🙂

ionic garnet
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👍

clever summit
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👍

drowsy inlet
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we getting all the sounds

burnt aspen
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now it's 2 Parsecs

eager matrix
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Yes

ionic garnet
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ALL SOUNDS are good

inner spade
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Sound is okay now on YouTube

burnt aspen
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we get to hear that awesome intro 3 times 🙂

eager matrix
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Funny, I am working with the same setup right now for a thing for work.

burnt aspen
ionic garnet
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love those feather doubler, tripler, quadruplers

smoky island
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Hooray for displayio based parsecs! 🎉

ionic garnet
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9.2% better

eager matrix
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6.5%

cinder wind
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crimping tool?

ionic garnet
lavish patrol
ionic garnet
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it's a big category

burnt aspen
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it's a soldering and crimping tool in one 😄

lavish patrol
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So, you dial the number and you get RickRolled. 😄

burnt aspen
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hah

cinder wind
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That's so cool John!

ionic garnet
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cool hacking of good ole 'lectronics

burnt aspen
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thought it was appropriate

lavish patrol
cinder wind
lavish patrol
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Lol

burnt aspen
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yea times were weird 😉

lavish patrol
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Then punk happened. 🙁

burnt aspen
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yea

cinder wind
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such a clean build, JP! really clever

burnt aspen
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I wouldn't even have used ferules in the connection blocks 🙂

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just wind the stranded wires up a bit 😄

cinder wind
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@haughty quiver, have it so every so often when you pick it up, you accidentally "hear" an ongoing conversation from another extension

burnt aspen
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haha that happened

lavish patrol
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Party line.

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You pick up the phone and you hear "Yah, Neil. I'll just collect some rocks..."

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"Beep"

burnt aspen
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rocks as in dope ?

lavish patrol
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From the Moon.

burnt aspen
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oh Neil Armstrong 😄

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sorry I was thinking too deep

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cool project !

ionic garnet
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for some reason I am craving the Jim Croce song "Operator"

lavish patrol
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I've got that ELO song going in my head...

burnt aspen
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@haughty quiver John for later if you are done streaming, I just wanted to tell you about Paperduino. I once built one on a breadboard https://www.instructables.com/Paperduino-Tiny/

Instructables

Paperduino Tiny: Build Arduino compatible board on piece of paper. Paperduino Tiny is very cheap and easy to build Arduino compatible board with USB and software compatible with Digispark board. Paperduino Tiny include an ATtiny85 microcontroller and come with USB…

burnt aspen
lavish patrol
burnt aspen
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love that one !

lavish patrol
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Telephone Line. Could have guessed that one. 😄

cinder wind
burnt aspen
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haven't ever heard that one

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it's of the earlier days ?

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I wasn't probably born or just a wee kid😄

lavish patrol
cinder wind
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it sounds so realistic it's giving me flashbacks

lavish patrol
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Lol

cinder wind
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do a 900 number!

burnt aspen
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we used to have 002 for the time and 003 for the weather

lavish patrol
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@haughty quiver You should do that announcement in Lars' voice...

cinder wind
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this will be such a great platform for escape rooms. dial the secret number to trigger a relay or light or something too

lavish patrol
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Great show again, @haughty quiver 👍

haughty quiver
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?showtimes

arctic abyssBOT
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Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

clever summit
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👍

smoky island
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Yep, will be on Saturday morning. Thanks JP.

burnt aspen
ionic garnet
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Bye y'all. Had to miss the end. Always entertaining and informative John. You make sure those corporate overlords of yours appreciate the appeal and effectiveness of your shows. Cuz I know those are some tough overlords, who by the way, also produce wonderfully compelling content. @haughty quiver @open girder and all you clever and welcoming people who hang here

solemn cosmos
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@haughty quiver Just watched the now not so live broadcast ... An idea that might be fun to add is dialing a number, getting the "disconnected number" audio and on hangup, it triggers a ring back, that plays a specific song/audio file ... I think that would make for a cool escape room feature. Image calling a number that's real, but pretends its fake, and on hangup (w/delay) it calls you back with another clue or something to that effect. Just a thought.

haughty quiver
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very cool, @solemn cosmos

burnt aspen
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@haughty quiver enjoyed your stream yesterday. Did you see I mentioned the paperduino ? I once built it but then on a breadboard. just like you were saying in the stream.

haughty quiver
rapid hornet
smoky island
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👋 Happy Friday Scott and everyone.

nova totem
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Yay for friday

modern night
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Hey all! Hope everyone's having a great day

strong acorn
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👋

eager matrix
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Hi Scott. I hope all is well with you and your partner.

tropic inlet
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Hi Scott

simple fractal
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Hey all and Scott

eager matrix
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Any clues as to what foamy is going to do on Friday's after you are gone?

simple fractal
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looks like update incoming 🙂

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this is my apres ski time 🙂

smoky island
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I have been streaming saturday mornings for a little while now. (VODs all on YT) If you want a sneak peek you can check out one of my prior streams. The Deep Dives will end up being pretty similar.

upper sandal
eager matrix
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@smoky island Are your Sat morning vid on the Adafruit channel on YT or somewhere else?

smoky island
sterile forge
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Hello from south florida

robust horizon
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@rapid hornet the new performance stuff from micropython (fast path & lookup cache) gives a 19% performance boost in the most contrived example I could come up with compared with 7.2.0-alpha.2, a loop that just accesses a member of an object -- more deets in my latest comment on the 1.18 merge PR.

sterile forge
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I need USB host so that I can build a midi concentrator that will allow more than one usb deive to be connected through one port.

robust horizon
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You're welcome -- sometimes I like a week where it's almost all code and no hardware 😊

timid plover
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I saw a pio asm demo the other day ( in micropython ) - was CP the origin of pio asm ?

eager matrix
upper sandal
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awwww USB host + bluetooth workflow would have been a good combo

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found that demo (from Jul 16, 2021 ) https://youtu.be/sakegmgk9tw?t=438

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simple fractal
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And we do love TinyUSB

cinder wind
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TinyUSB is one of the best contributions to open source. Thanks Thach!

rapid hornet
cinder wind
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ooo which boards?

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those ESP32 dev boards? ahh imx

vivid ore
cinder wind
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And Teensy has a USB Host library that's functional so you have an existence proof of it actually working

fresh flame
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So the rp2040's native USB can only do slave?

modern night
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👀 FPGAs? oh dear my add to cart twitch is acting up..

timid plover
vapid dagger
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I have a digilent cora-z7 I can help test on

timid plover
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Nerd sniping is slang term for the action of giving an interesting problem to a person (usually a nerd), which will cause them to put a lot of effort into trying to solve the problem. The nerd stops all activity to devote attention to solving the problem, often at his or her own peril.
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eager matrix
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Digikey has a good intro to FPGA on YT. Hackaday mentioned it recently.

robust horizon
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we always called it geektrapping

ionic garnet
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Hi @rapid hornet late but here now~

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I am really interested in FPGAs but haven't had time to dive in yet

grand tusk
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faulty program gone awray

ionic garnet
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did you share what version you bought?

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i haven't bought one yet

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that's ok

timid plover
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there are a lot of other more expensive eval kits too 🙂

turbid hill
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@rapid hornet Thanks for last weeks tips I have the CP working properly on Pi Zero W2 and ESP32-S3, for the ESP I was writing to the wrong flash address

ionic garnet
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There are some for $50 but no real usb

timid plover
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made $200 seem inexpensive

ionic garnet
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I justify my collection. I'm an inventor and startup CTO. I need to keep my hands deep into emerging tech and popular trends

eager matrix
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I've got one of those in my bin. I'm about to dive in. Digilent has a huge selection of PMOD adaptors.

ionic garnet
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Accepted

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link?

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It's also a new dad thing. There are a number of career and fantasy related things we all go through

vapid dagger
tropic inlet
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I am hoping I can use the ST dualsynopsys-usb-otg with CP host and device

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I think tiny usb might already have support

sinful meadow
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it doesn't have host for synopsys yet

ionic garnet
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I fear it's a big time sink for me

eager matrix
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The GOWIN FPGA in the board has a USB PHY.

ionic garnet
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I love this stuff but I have finite mental capacity

lapis sage
ionic garnet
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first I just want to animate rgb leds fast enough for new use cases. Then evolve from there

lapis sage
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(Terris Leonis from the YouTube chat here)

cinder wind
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pretty amazing that a $1 MCU can be a USB host

ionic garnet
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Indeed

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we are techies. Our conversations are unscripted and go where they go

eager matrix
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@rapid hornet I'm the same way - following the shiny things. A former partner likened me to a squirrel about it. I embrace it.

ionic garnet
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Always follow shiny things. There's a reason they shine. Some will be for naught but you only one good one.

lapis sage
tropic inlet
ionic garnet
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me too

smoky island
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🔮 digikey

sinful meadow
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@tropic inlet not sure sorry

tropic inlet
lapis sage
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Ben Eater has a video on how USB keyboard communicate

rapid hornet
ionic garnet
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it's a common pattern of impersonating hardware interrupt with polling on reliable frequency

lapis sage
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@rapid hornet Would it be smart to implement Python classes that represent HID devices at the high level?

tropic inlet
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@rapid hornet are you going to base it on the TinUsb abstraction or use mixed usb abstractions underneath?

lapis sage
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One of my projects is to develop a hardware control panel for Kerbal Space Program and I want to plug it in via USB (I was looking at my Teensy for this) and I've been looking at implementing it as a generic HID device so no drivers will be needed on the computer end.

eager matrix
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@lapis sage Great name. You could also go with TerrorHurts.

ionic garnet
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back to my comment about fake interrupts, the frequency need not even be precise. It just has to happen with the reliability window you need for the system

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of course you have hardware interrupts here

cinder wind
lapis sage
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@eager matrix Thanks, I've had this username for like fifteen years now

lapis sage
grim ginkgo
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With n-key rollover?

rapid hornet
ionic garnet
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and lots of nice products to use

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I have them all but haven't had time for keyboards yet. But I gave an adabox to my son and law to turn him into an Adafruit fan

lapis sage
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One of the things I'll need is sending data back to the control panel for displaying e.g. Altitude on 7-seg displays, I was pleased to find that HID supports that kind of communication.

ionic garnet
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there was a time when you could do anything with any protocol for any of this

warm pulsar
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@rapid hornet That tutorial is a bit much when people are scared of code... I usually point to something simpler to get people started with.

ionic garnet
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so much technology, so little time

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Can someone give good use cases for USB beyond keyboards, smart speakers, midi? There must be more use cases and it would be good to think them through

timid plover
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temporary but important distraction - sorry for the gap in notes 🙂

left pier
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Oh no... its the final countdown

timid plover
left pier
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I wonder if we can use CP to control USB to do automation "stuff"... but not sure we need Host for that...

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Boom testing !

lapis sage
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A get_string_descriptor() seems very Pythonic

left pier
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import parenting

turbid hill
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Diaper duty calls

timid plover
vapid dagger
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I've been playing with the idea of USB devices for sensors/motors that could be used with either a PC or a Mindstorms like brick

turbid hill
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What about get serial number

timid plover
warm pulsar
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would you need get endpoint or get message from queue#

lilac salmon
timid plover
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beagle has a usb tool but haven't used it yet

turbid hill
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Where I work we tweaked the USB to handle 128 endpoints at once

warm pulsar
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HID has both - in and out -- when you press caps lock, all keyboards receive a message to turn on the "caps lock" led...

timid plover
warm pulsar
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not sure about that...

turbid hill
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We use a device called a zero client that has sound, video, usb, and nic all in one but the ZC is pretty dumb

simple fractal
eager matrix
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I just noticed an RP2040 feather board with wifi for $15.

sterile forge
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Multiple endpoints are usually uused for devices like the raspberry pi keyboards. They have the keyboard and a USB hub which can support three devices.

lilac salmon
turbid hill
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so imagine controlling 32 ZC at once which results in a lot of endpoints, We use the ZC to control screens which are part of big video walls although we have switched over to android based box's with our Usefrul Client as a android app instead.

warm pulsar
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HID Host over BLE? wait - my brain hurts - you mean connecting a BLE keyboard to a circuitpython BLE board?

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That would be a good use case to make the api portable between USB and BLE

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That's really nice to make it portable on the device side... KMK leverages that.

turbid hill
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ZC is Zero Client

timid plover
turbid hill
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that is one of our main units we support

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Centerm C75v2 - Userful - Monitors-anywhere - Multipoint-zero-client

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yay vt100

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DEC all the way

simple fractal
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vt100, first enterprise software i worked on, a vt100 emulator for the PC

ionic garnet
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i love watching your thought process

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this is big time geek stuff for nerds like me

left pier
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Seeing the process is great

warm pulsar
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really like it. I use mspaint and my mouse at work and have been thinking about a tablet..

ionic garnet
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that sounds dirty

warm pulsar
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HID -> ASCII is the reverse of what keymap(international) does (ascii->HID)

ionic garnet
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musical instruments and control surfaces

warm pulsar
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german,french keyboards have some keys doing other things...

eager matrix
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Is it time to @ Katni again to let her know how awesome she is.

tropic inlet
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async usb host versions?

warm pulsar
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USB on the device side has different states... connected (and a few other ones I believe). I suspect there are similar things on the host side

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what's the model of your magic tablet?

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works well on windows?

cinder wind
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you have scribbling to text converter, yeah? (aka an intern haha)

left pier
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GIMP to CP Compiler ...

ionic garnet
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I'm still here. Cool discussion. Nice work.

timid plover
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thanks again -

ionic garnet
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thanks Scott

eager matrix
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Thanks Scott. Have a great weekend.

left pier
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Thanks Scott !

turbid hill
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Thanks for the chit chat

cinder wind
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Thank Scott! Congrats on the pending release of Scott 2.0

lapis sage
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Thanks for the stream!

left pier
modern night
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Thanks for the great deep dive! Proper into the weeds and proper distractions 😄 Have a lovely weekend all!

sinful meadow
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thanks scott 👍

left pier
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The GH Action worked just in time for you to go on leave

warm pulsar
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two 🐱 wow

simple fractal
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thanks Scott and everyone here.

cinder wind
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RP2040: Multi cat processing

simple fractal
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pet me Hoooman

rapid hornet
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thanks all!

simple fractal
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🙂

sudden slate
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Great show Scott... the hours don't sometimes work for me, but I try to catch live - today was not a day I could.....

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But thanks for the great show 🙂

smoky island
clever summit
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Hi Foamy!

inner spade
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Hello!

grand tusk
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Hello

clever summit
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Seems you forgot to disable the Youtube chat, so you might just as well make me a moderator now.

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I am moderator in most of the live streams I visit.

nova totem
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Won't be around much today I am fighting getting the stream part of the unzip library working still. the straight uzlib.decompress(compressed_stuff) works though

clever summit
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I got a Github issue for my MagTag sensor example today. Seems I forgot to actually post the working code to Github. Guy was complaining it didn't look like on the Adafruit site and I was like "What? I am on Adafruit?" 🙂

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Found myself in the blog eventually.

inner spade
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Turtle came from the programming language Logo

clever summit
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Oh, that brings me way back! 🙂

inner spade
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Worked in an observatory that used it for telescope positioning.

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Before adopting Forth.

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I used it for a small two wheeled robot

grand tusk
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Nice robot!

inner spade
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This version just used pre-stored scripts.

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The next version used a Crickit.

grand tusk
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Yeah, you got it right.

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The LED matrix is a component of the midi sequencer I'm working on.

nova totem
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I get those two reboots fairly often too, never seen a pattern though (or cared to look that deeply)

noble grove
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My PyPortal double boots as well. I always assumed it was once when the file saved and once when cache flushed.

nova totem
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I remember Logo and everything growing up but the teachers never knew how to do more then draw shapes

noble grove
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Why would the teachers want to do more than draw shapes in Logo. They could just use Basic. The purpose of Logo and Turtle is to make graphics easy...

nova totem
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Did you want a pre-build of the decompress stuff (got the streams working) not sure if you were working on it today (Not quite ready for a PR but i can make a draft or build a uf2).

noble grove
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Not saying I agree with them, but I understand the mentality.

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I guess the only advantage of this over tile grids would be movement on angles other than integer fractions.

nova totem
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I'll push it to my fork, or if you want a UF2 just tell me for what board. I'm missing all the documentation still so it'll fail some checks

noble grove
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45 is trivial

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30 is not

grand tusk
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manhattan distance

inner spade
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Turtle/Logo is a simple precursor to understanding fractals, too.

nova totem
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I have to run in a few minutes but it is PR #6069. It is a draft as I still have to finish the documentation.

You should be able to pull the PR and build it (for now uzlib is on by default, probably will turn it off for small builds later).

If you look in tests there are some uzlib tests showing the usage of it.

noble grove
noble grove
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I think if you try to close something that isn't open, it just returns "success" (0)

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prepend?

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Hilbert cubes are cool

noble grove
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If you didn't drink so much water, you wouldn't have to go to the bathroom so often. Bladder infections and kidney stones are a small price to pay for keeping us entertained.

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Joke

grand tusk
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uzlib.decompress(data, wbits=0, bufsize=0, /)
Return decompressed data as bytes. wbits is DEFLATE dictionary window size used during compression (8-15, the dictionary size is power of 2 of that value). Additionally, if value is positive, data is assumed to be zlib stream (with zlib header). Otherwise, if it’s negative, it’s assumed to be raw DEFLATE stream. bufsize parameter is for compatibility with CPython and is ignored.

noble grove
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I love it!

grand tusk
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Unexpected Maker does that. With lazers.

noble grove
grand tusk
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The response header may have the 'compression level'?

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I used the MicroPython 1.16 docs.

noble grove
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Can you decompress partially to see if there's a manifest?

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yeah

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Asking out of complete ignorance.

inner spade
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Python docs talk about header considerations in more detail:

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CPython

grand tusk
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Too much magic in that wbits parameter.

noble grove
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Does "Window" refer to an actual gui window, or just a start and end point inside the buffer?

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Is there a meta-data browser?

nova totem
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Sorry only on for a minute but did you look at the examples in the test directory?

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I'm not 100% sure either (I just took the code). I did some testing using the zlib CPython library to generate compressed strings

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-3 is an error I believe

grand tusk
noble grove
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never mind. babling

grand tusk
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I think the first two bytes in your data are b'\x1f\x8b'

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I think CPython does something different if wbits > 15.

inner spade
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31 = 0x1F

grand tusk
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+24 to +31 = 16 + (8 to 15): Uses the low 4 bits of the value as the window size logarithm. The input must include a gzip header and trailer.

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(cpython zlib decompress)

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"gzip" is often also used to refer to the gzip file format, which is:

a 10-byte header, containing a magic number (1f 8b), the compression method (08 for DEFLATE), 1-byte of header flags, a 4-byte timestamp, compression flags and the operating system ID.
(gzip wikipedia)
-- the header is 10 bytes.

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🎉🎆

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Maybe find a server that respects the content-encoding header.

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Looks like they are using Amazon CloudFront.

inner spade
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Add a Cartesian plot in the background

grand tusk
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I'll have to get one of those ESP32-S3 boards in my next order.

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You go to a park and make radio contacts.

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You try to talk with as many radio operators as possible.

inner spade
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Thanks for the stream!

grand tusk
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Thank you!

sudden slate
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Thanks

grand tusk
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Looks like a fun game.

smoky island
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It's quite fun. Although fair warning it does get fairly difficult in the later levels!

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@clever summit I think I find the right place to add you as a mod on my youtube channel. Can you share your "channel url" that it is asking for here? You can private message to me as well if you prefer not to post it publicly.

clever summit
smoky island
strong acorn
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I need a push notification for when it's "Random Hacker Time" 😉

open girder
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Desk of Ladyada - Some LCD and Winamp fun! https://youtu.be/H55Ljn8ya3Y

This week we worked on some upcoming new products, including the Feather ESP32 V2 which we listed in the shop in prep for stocking next week. it's a full refresh of the Feather ESP32 and we even got low power in deep sleep - down to 70uA! we also got some LCD samples in the post and had a fun time learning how to drive these with GPIO pins on a ...

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digital crescent
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@strong acorn it's starting soon

pearl shoal
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Hi folks!

slow spire
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Hi y’all!

strong acorn
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@digital crescent thank you!

proven crow
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Heya!

desert orbit
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Hi! Yay Winamp! Hopefully no llamas were whipped in the production of the project 😂

pearl shoal
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Great to see @rapid hornet working on USB Host on Friday! I'm knee deep projects that need it right now!

slow spire
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“Gettin’ long in the tooth”

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Nice!

pearl shoal
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"We welcome Pull Requests" --> Purists

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And you could put a STEMMA/QT on it!

eager matrix
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have you thought about using the FTDI chip that has serail and JTAG like Espressif does in the Kaluga so you can use gdb over usb?

pearl shoal
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We made AAC devices out of PyPortals - they have been very durable

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I have a great video I'll look for of a kid dropping one 🙂

eager matrix
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The chip Espressif uses is the FT2232HL.

pearl shoal
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https://youtu.be/WgSq7Nvlj8o?t=827 (cute kiddo dropping the device is at 13:56)

This year, LessonPix, ATMakers and Minor Achievements teamed up to provide a Talking Tools camp where every kid got their own AAC device. The devices, made using Adafruit parts & Android tablets survived well and provide a very different experience than your standard AAC process.

Here, the folks who made it happen debrief (live, RIGHT after ca...

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smoky island
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I'm a few minutes behind but definitely would love to see new pyportal with all in 1 chip blinka_cooking

eager matrix
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It would be cool if the search on Adafruit.com had filters for Active and In-stock like DigiKey does?

slow spire
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Any insights on what causes the ghosting?

eager matrix
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Thanks. I didn't notice those checkboxes?

ionic garnet
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sorry I missed you live. Was daydreaming today about visiting with people, going to concerts, theatre, museums, tech conferences. I need to get out to our development centers in Bolivia, Romania, Vietnam, and yes, Ukraine. Got to start by leaving the house I guess 😉

cinder wind
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just watched the Winamp demos, so neat @smoky island! Can't wait to try this out

clever summit
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Hey @smoky island

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Oh, I see you managed to mod me! 🙂

inner spade
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A new family of PyPortals would be very nice. Capacitive touchscreens would also be useful.

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It looked like 3 or 4 vertical zones were pointing to different locations in the text stream buffer when scrolling.

noble grove
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Good afternoon from The Great Communist North

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Well enough. I'm not a trucker.

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Or a coffee shop owner.

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Day off. On call. Phone service.

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Had a couple calls already.

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That seems better.

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Can you split in interactive mode?

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Cool.

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Nice.

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In the second group.

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Thanks

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Curious.

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Is that the split position? Do you need to specify which group you are resetting?

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Do you need to destroy the group?

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To return to full screen?

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Or make it invisible?

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Sorry, I missed the (none)

inner spade
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; Line endings missing

noble grove
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What the heck is that "usb" symbol?

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yes

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oic

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git

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Too deep for me.

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Better to have the information and not need it than vs

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as long as it doesn't take up much room

inner spade
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Like a “ merge overlay” ?

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Image ‘OR’

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Bitmap utilities could be expanded

noble grove
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Too much detail, not enough overview.

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in the doc search

grand tusk
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👋Snowing here in the beehive state. ⛄

noble grove
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Sunny here in Toronto. Just above freezing.

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Utah?

grand tusk
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Yeah.

inner spade
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Weird wintery mix in the dry side of the evergreen state.

grand tusk
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Greatest snow on Earth is what they tell me.

noble grove
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We get dumped on Friday

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8inches overnight

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Nice

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YAY!

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Should work on a MatrixPortal, yes?

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Thanks foamyguy

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right

clever summit
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Thanks for the company!

noble grove
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Just thinking

inner spade
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Thanks!

noble grove
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Not much room on a matrix portal.

clever summit
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Yeah, don't know what was the issue with that guy, he usually is nice.

noble grove
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Ah.

grand tusk
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Thanks

noble grove
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Have a nice day.

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OK

grand tusk
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That will be good for the Broadcom port.

light stump
smoky island
light stump
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I’ll make an issue on that minor REPL weirdness and include a couple of photos.

ionic garnet
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Hi folks!

inner spade
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Hello!

haughty quiver
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hi!

viral sail
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Good afternoon.

inner spade
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We live in an ever-expanding universe of maker goodies.

tacit garnet
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Heidi ho neighbors

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YT is beatin'

drowsy inlet
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Good thing for reminders. Forgot today was Tuesday due to US holiday yesterday. Hello all!

ionic garnet
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that's where the fun is

drowsy inlet
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And... gone.

ionic garnet
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out of stock already

cinder wind
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doh

ionic garnet
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really useful for Trinkey's like Trinkey RP2040

cinder wind
sterile forge
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I just tried to order the product pick and it indicated that it was out of stock

rotund marsh
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Curious, when you'd use product pick MCP23017 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5346 vs PCA9685 https://www.adafruit.com/product/815 ? MCP23017 breakout is cheaper, less address pins?

tacit garnet
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Yup. Out of stock.

short chasm
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trying to remember which project i used a mcp23017 for. but i remember them being awesome

ionic garnet
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clever little demo!

cinder wind
inner spade
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Thanks JP!

viral sail
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Thanks @haughty quiver

rotund marsh
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Thanks @haughty quiver and Adafruit Team!

haughty quiver
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thanks all

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Oh no, sorry to hear that we ran out of stock on them!

drowsy inlet
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thank you

ionic garnet
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thanks @haughty quiver

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within 3 minutes of show start out of stock

midnight plinth
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@haughty quiver Thank you

cinder wind
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I2C-based GPIO expanders are rad. I personally think the seesaw boards are more fun because they can do PWM, NeoPixels, analog in, and GPIO. But this chip is cool too

haughty quiver
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@cinder wind with the perfect upsell! <slaps hood> "What can I do to get you into one of these Seesaws?"

rotund marsh
rotund marsh
hard hollow
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☕️⚡️

viral sail
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Good morning. gus

rocky reef
lavish patrol
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Hello, peeps. 😀

upbeat coral
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Hey Y'll

lavish patrol
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🐡

shadow epoch
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Those look like really fun projects! Can anyone sell me more time in a day?

open surge
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morning!

shell mason
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ready 3d hangout

rocky reef
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​good morning, afternoon, evening and night folks!

lavish patrol
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All The Things.

rocky reef
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viral sail
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Those disk drive cases are a refreshing alternative to "old computer yellow" which is the standard case color most of that hardware is found in these days.

lavish patrol
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You make a good case for this project...

shell mason
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those cases bring back memories of old imacs

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so many colors

slim vale
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hey

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It's afternoon (17H14) here in France

viral sail
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The irony of the iMac reference is that iMac release was criticized for being the first mass-market computer to omit the floppy drive as standard equipment.

slim vale
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do you plan to sell floppy drive and disks ?

lavish patrol
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Flippy drive. 😄

shell mason
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with color front cover as well

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it could be interest to have front cover changable but also lock the outer color case too

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andry or iFloppy drive

lavish patrol
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Like the case color.

drowsy inlet
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that digital etch-a-sketch is very cool

slim vale
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I missed something, what is that ?

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ok, i see it's these drawing things

smoky island
nova totem
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Any idea why ninjaflex may be burning at some points? Comes out in little blobs. On an Ender 5 @ 235C. It did seem worse at slower print speeds

smoky island
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My case is more primitive as well. I have not honed my snap-fit capabilities so it uses screws. I love the snap fit stuff that you all make!

slim vale
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I want to know if you're planning something to reduce the shipping cost to Europe

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because I can never directly buy adafruit product, I need to use an intermediate

rocky reef
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drowsy inlet
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@smoky island Looks like you use encoders, while they mentioned using potentiometers. What's the difference, just digital vs analog?

open surge
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Rotary encoders can rotate all the way around non-stop

slim vale
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I saw this solution but that a bit annoying because on Distributors website is a lot harder to find things than on the adafruit website

drowsy inlet
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Ok, that's what I thought and I didn't see them reaching a stop point, so maybe they're using encoders, too?

smoky island
lavish patrol
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Rotary encoders are a well rounded solution...

nova totem
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Combing was on so I can try to turn it off. Thanks

drowsy inlet
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Ah, so they do stop

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Thank you for answering. For some reason it looked like it was spinning more than 360

shell mason
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Rotary Encoders are cool alright

drowsy inlet
lavish patrol
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...aand the lawnmower's back. 😄

rocky reef
drowsy inlet
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For sure! It shows animations

upbeat coral
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I think that fish is the best so far

winter zinc
lavish patrol
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Fish and chips.

winter zinc
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Digi-Key tend to have a lot more of the newer products
Also Pimoroni from UK, if you order under 150 eur, you don't have to pay import taxes, and shipping is reasonable

shell mason
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fish makes

rocky reef
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shell mason
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that remind me gun sword from iron frists movie

rocky reef
upbeat coral
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Thingiverse tells me I have an ad blocker and won't download files. I don't use ANY ad blockers anywhere

shell mason
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prop from man with the iron fists movie the one reminded what russel grow acted

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creative have it own 3d hub nowdays

upbeat coral
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Changes ?files to /zip and it downloads

viral sail
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Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow . See you all tonight.

lavish patrol
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Another great show guys. 👍

drowsy inlet
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Thanks guys. Great show, as always!

shell mason
rocky reef
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thanks so much for hanging out folks!

hard hollow
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thanks folks, cya tonight!

smoky island
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Thanks Noe & Pedro. Another fun show!

wise iris
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thanks guys!

upbeat coral
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Thank you for taking time for us

winter zinc
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Thank you! mosfet

winter zinc
upbeat coral
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@winter zinc If I go to a site and they have ads out the ying yang, I don't go back. Good firewall takes care of the rest.

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AND Generally if they have a lot of ads, they're not there for my benefit but for the content creator. I fthey can't or won't do a better job of controlling them well, then I don't need to be there.

mossy widget
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hi! how do you sign up to share on show and tell again?

alpine radish
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@mossy widget Someone will share a streamyard link on the live-broadcast-announce or live-broadcast-chat within the next couple of minutes. Click and go there 🙂 Just turn off youtube if you do.

mossy widget
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ahhh great thanks

clear matrix
mossy widget
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👌

alpine radish
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Whatcha gonna share?

tulip canyon
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Hello everyone 👋

sonic coyote
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@alpine radish macro keypad

alpine radish
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Woohoo! Love those things! @sonic coyote

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Well...they're late.

upbeat coral
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Hey Y'll

alpine radish
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Guess ya' can share it here 🙂

split gazelle
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good evening folks

viral sail
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Good evening.

open girder
mossy widget
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beginnings of a sonar range controled light

smoky island
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Hello everyone 👋

open girder
alpine radish
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I don't build. I smash!

turbid hill
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@timid plover at Userful, the company I work for we use Zero Clients as the control for Video Walls so each ZC is worth 4 endpoints and if we want to drive a 50 screen wall we needed to access 200 endpoints

ionic garnet
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Hello

tulip canyon
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cover the notches

nova totem
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Good evening everyone

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So many hole punched disks when i was younger

turbid hill
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actually had a special punch tool for making the correct notch

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used on apple disks

rapid hornet
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hi all!

turbid hill
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yo

robust horizon
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@turbid hill later on I got one of those as well, but .. hey, let's say I was tickled to see the results of my early life handiwork when I came across that floppy.

turbid hill
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I got my greaseweazal working last weekend and got some data off some .35 pc disks

upbeat coral
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You guys need to see what LGR Blerbs (Clint) has. The guy has a massive old school PC library.

mellow thunder
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I still have operational 3.5 floppys installed still on 3 of my PC's so glad I kept them!

dim wigeon
nova totem
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I know I have some 3.5" drives but probably sitting in cases "in case"

dim wigeon
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Also, hi all! 👋 🙂

tulip canyon
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y'all planned this!

turbid hill
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When I was first introduced to the Apple 2 (not a +) the teacher who had the machine told me to get two floppy's and I could use the machine, My mom did not understand why I wanted $20CAD at the time to buy two floppy's. My teacher showed me to how to punch the disks so I could double the data I could store.

tulip canyon
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That orange and blue piece was Frog Design

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sweet animation

smoky island
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🛹

woven mirage
clear matrix
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@woven mirage Looks right!

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The StreamYard link was posted earlier.

tulip canyon
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Pop-shove-it?

nova totem
brazen quail
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Cheap laser service where ? @hard hollow

woven mirage
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Thanks. I may propose to show something next week.

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Scott doesn’t age, does he?

turbid hill
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he is not quite frozen in carbonite

dim wigeon
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Perhaps silly question, but what does OTG cable stand for? (Allay parenthetical second question: why are there 523,467 different kinds of USB cables anyway? 😂)

strange mantle
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on the go

turbid hill
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An OTG or On The Go adapter (sometimes called an OTG cable, or OTG connector) allows you to connect a full sized USB flash drive or USB A cable to your phone or tablet through the Micro USB or USB-C charging port. ... Tansfer photos directly from a compatible camera on to the phone. Connect smartphone directly to printer.

rapid hornet
dim wigeon
rapid hornet
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ya, agreed.

turbid hill
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Yes too many USB cables

rapid hornet
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usb a to usb a is particularly weird

alpine radish
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Hey ya' -- I'm going to teardown a very expensive camera lens this Friday -- is that anything I can post here? I don't want to spam adafruit's awesome server.

dim wigeon
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One of the reasons I have a 10 port USB Hub on my desk is to have the cables that I need for all the different MCU boards I have.

turbid hill
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A to A, aka the flat ends we actually use that type at work

alpine radish
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@sonic coyote in the house!!!!!

dim wigeon
smoky island
turbid hill
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used to talk to a android client

ashen hound
#

what was the name of the PCB course?

ionic garnet
alpine radish
clear matrix
alpine radish
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The last course ended -- we'll hopefully do another one soon.

rapid hornet
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(just don't do it in multiple channels)

dim wigeon
smoky island
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@sonic coyote that is an awesome skull PCB. Great job!

alpine radish
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@clear matrix thanks! I'm always wary. I don't always know etiquette.

tulip canyon
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Great macro @sonic coyote

clear matrix
sonic coyote
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oh man, logitech decided to update right as I started cutting the mic, glad it came back!

turbid hill
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here is what the cable looks like

alpine radish
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@clear matrix -- I pinged you over in the @show-n-tell channel just in case you do need to mod it.

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Cool projects everyone!

clear matrix
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You don't need to tag anyone. Your post looks perfectly acceptable!

alpine radish
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Hopefully Phat Ollie will help

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That's a nice keyboard!

smoky island
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Yay Kinesis Advantage! ⌨️ nice job with the teensy transplant!

alpine radish
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So much cool stuff. I know y'all are busy @open girder so I'm not asking, but sometimes I wish show-n-tell was an hour! So many inspiring people.

rapid hornet
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show and tell was an hour for a bit

turbid hill
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I was thinking of how many stemma boards I could link and run on MC board.

alpine radish
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Yeah -- I guess since you're depending on the community to show up somewhat randomly, it could be a bit hit and miss.

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I'm just saying -- cool, cool stuff.

nova totem
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@rancid depot real cool idea, radio is a great way to get beginners interested as you get that instant feedback

open girder
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yah, we're always asked "what does adafruit need", etc. and it's time, would love to be able to do 2 hour show and tells, but gotta also run an adafruit 🙂 all your orders help run all this, so thank you ya'll!

nova totem
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@split gazelle okay cool but MIDI already hurts my head and now it can also control robots? 🙂

dim wigeon
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Maybe somebody could find the source code for the calendar, and submit a PR to add hours to the day? 😂

split gazelle
dim wigeon
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I’ve been kicking around trying to make a version of the Atari punk console 555 timer oscillator thing that is midi controllable.

haughty quiver
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@dim wigeon neat!

nova totem
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I have a cool midi project but like many things it's in pieces at the moment awaiting time.

alpine radish
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@haughty quiver!

dim wigeon
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@haughty quiver I have a design sort of floating around in my head. I need to write it down on some paper and then actually build it. Also, hi! 👋

viral sail
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Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.

rancid depot
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thank you all!

turbid hill
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My one and only 8" floppy
I have no idea what is on it

tulip canyon
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Thanks everyone, great projects all!

alpine radish
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@open girder @haughty quiver Any chance ya' want to be a third judge for a PCB design contest I'm running next month?

upbeat coral
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Thanks to all for giving us your time

ionic garnet
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thanks. c ya

alpine radish
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I can email ya' the deets.

nova totem
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Great projects everyone

haughty quiver
dim wigeon
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Thanks everybody, some great projects tonight!

alpine radish
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I always love it when I have time to stop by.

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Good stuff!

dim wigeon
turbid hill
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should remmeber to start the engineer feed

open girder
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10% discount code, code is: tofsensor http://www.adafruit.com

alpine radish
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Ooh -- that was me JP -- I'm someone!

dim wigeon
#

Question for later: I recently saw a PCB that had SMD components mounted on both sides of the board. How are those manufactured? How do the parts on the first side not melt off when you flip the board over and reflow it again?

alpine radish
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Surface tension works pretty well for lighter SMD components.

ashen hound
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The surface tension holds them in place

alpine radish
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It's also possible to use a different solder with a lower melt temp for the second pass if you have heavy stuff.

ashen hound
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also they apply some kind of glue to hold certain components in place

dim wigeon
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Ah. Interesting! Thanks! That totally makes sense.

alpine radish
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But usually you'll put the heavy parts on first, then the light stuff for the second pass.

dim wigeon
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I imagine you would also have to be cautious about how much time the board spends in the reflow oven on the second pass.

alpine radish
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Yes -- some parts can't be reflowed multiple times without damage.

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Most things aren't that sensitive.

ashen hound
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usually double sided boards are a tad expensive if you don't have the volume

dim wigeon
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I first learned to build electronic things in high school, so surface mount stuff is a whole New World for me. 🙂

alpine radish
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If you can, always design for one sided placement, you'll save money.

nova totem
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when i made my first couple PCBs I reflowed things a "few" times due to mistakes, knowing I may wreck it but it was an experiment. But nothing ever went wrong (at least with the reflow)

alpine radish
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But if you're going for a service like Macrofab where your project is ganged with others, it's going through double sided reflow regardless, so don't worry about it.

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Just for large product runs, anytime you can reduce the number of process steps, you'll save money.

upbeat coral
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Tool's LAMPD. Great tune for this

nova totem
#

given how much snow we have here it will still be winter here

dim knot
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ashen hound
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is that giant ball used like a scroller?

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I have seen one of those at work. I have played with it like a toy. Never knew what it was used for

shy topaz
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The ZX80 tape just wrote digital to the cassette.

hot frigate
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Spaceball is still around!!! They are now 3dconnexion. I have the spacemouse wireless on my desk right now. I bet many of us do.

turbid hill
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How about the system that backed data up to vhs tape
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArVid

ArVid (Archiver on Video) (Russian: АрВид, Архиватор на Видео) is a data backup solution using a VHS tape as a storage medium. It was very popular in Russia and the rest of the former USSR in the mid-1990s.
It was produced in Zelenograd, Russia by PO KSI.

urban gale
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aw. My mom had a Panasonic Pet

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That thing was heavy

alpine radish
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@open girder I've got a PCB design competition coming up in March and am looking to give away about $500 in prizes. I was thinking about 6 $26 Pinecil Pine64 soldering irons for runner up prizes, Figure $50 ish for shipping everything, that leaves me just shy of $300 in prize money to do something interesting with. Do you happen to have any ideas of any interesting Ada-merch for a 1st/2nd place winner?

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Also, I'd love to have you as one of the three judges, but I know you're busy -- so maybe you can recommend a judge to fill the last judge spot? (Super easy -- just pick the one you like the best)

open girder
dusk socket
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The ZX 80 you save and retrieved you program on a tape player. it was hard to find each program though.

nova totem
alpine radish
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Sweet!

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It's uh....out of stock.

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Is there a way for me to share the competition with you without sharing it with the world? I want to keep it a secret until I release it.

turbid hill
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The mini hotplate can be found all over the net

open girder
alpine radish
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Yeah -- but I want to support Ada.

shut crown
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whats the coupon tonight?

turbid hill
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tofsensor

shadow sigil
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@open girder Question: what is the safest way to bend the .05” pins on a TO-92 transistor to .1” for use with a breadboard without damaging the pins?

open girder
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@alpine radish can always do adafruit gift certs, they can then buy anything ever, and they never expire

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lots of things are in and out of stock nearly instantly

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kinda how it is for everything at the momeny

urban gale
#

I could never choose between Winamp and Sonique

viral sail
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WinAmp was the first time I had ever encountered the word "skin" to apply to a design aesthetic. It would end up becoming our company lexicon for design applicaiton.

turbid hill
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I use the open source version of winamp now WACUP

urban gale
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Winamp also had the best product tagline

graceful widget
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Hello world

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I miss Macamp

turbid hill
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I use the last version of winamp pro for android and it still works

alpine radish
inner spade
#

@smoky island 's WinAmp implementation is an excellent example of how skins and front panels can be designed and coded for other projects, too.

graceful widget
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Cheap way to send Winamp on pi?

dim wigeon
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There’s a proverb I like that’s similar to PT’s quote: “We do not see the world as it is; we see the world as we are.”

graceful widget
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Is there a clone that can use Winamp skins?

tulip canyon
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code+community

turbid hill
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winamp WACUP exists you can still run winamp

dim knot
graceful widget
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Wacup for Debian?

echo canopy
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@open girder Did you see the WinAmp story was featured in Gizmodo.com and they mentioned Adafruit?

Just search for WinAmp

turbid hill
#

those blue connecters look crooked

smoky island
graceful widget
#

Brilliant

shy topaz
#

Use the browser debugger to delete the ad blocker blocker.

open girder
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oh wow, thanks @echo canopy !

river hemlock
#

Thank you for starting that conversation with Thingiverse. It's so important to not let those decisions go unexamined.

turbid hill
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You could also use a PiHole system to help manage the ads

open girder
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thanks @river hemlock yah, trying to get a conversation going with them

turbid hill
#

that fish reminds me of cat in Red Dwarf

graceful widget
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Meow

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Right here, right meow, this is what we need

upbeat coral
#

Twitch locked down?

open girder
# open girder thanks <@!56589653133766656> yah, trying to get a conversation going with them

hi makerbot folks!

our community (and team) noticed if an ad blocker is on, it does not allow downloads, and for downloads when it is possible to download our files - there is an area where ads are (or will be) and a text ad for signing up for amazon prime (attached images).

so - we'll probably need to do a post about this eventually since we'll get asked about it, and wanted to get specifics to get all the facts correct -

  1. when did this start?
  2. what ad network does thingiverse use for serving ads?
    2a) if there are problematic ads / malware how does a user report it?
  3. did you contact any creators/publishers for feedback regarding this?
    3a) could the adafruit team/community provide some feedback?
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(that's our note to them)

graceful widget
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Great

shut crown
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it would be great to see this resolved

graceful widget
#

It's a start

#

Meanwhile things work on Cults3d

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My stuff is there too, free

shut crown
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it's prusa's clone of thingiverse

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a lot less scummy, and and you get free filament for posting makes

graceful widget
#

Kinda tricky to search, but I've found things there

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I use myminifactory too

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No easy way to upload all my stuff at once, like Cults3d

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That I know of

tulip canyon
shut crown
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it has import from thingiverse

graceful widget
#

Ah. Smort

alpine radish
dim knot
alpine radish
dim knot
analog acorn
#

Oh that's a nice display!

graceful widget
#

But can it run Crysis

dim knot
echo canopy
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Question for the show: @open girder adafruit

Have you seen any data on how many microcontrollers the average person has? Just curious with all of the SAMD, RP2040… Espressif

Thanks

sleek hill
#

I've been watching the youtube videos for this "new product" segment and I was always confused as to why it felt like the demos sometimes were a little awkward. I didn't realize this came out of a live show.

open girder
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yah! @sleek hill these are all live and in one take 🙂

dim knot
analog acorn
#

That ToF sensor would be great for some robotics work....

graceful widget
#

If I could run two of those screens synced from a pi, could be a handy lofi vr

sleek hill
#

COME ON S3 😉

viral sail
#

Stellafane pink

graceful widget
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Good for Nintendo virtualboy

dim knot
opaque hearth
#

"charming" that's the word @sleek hill was reaching for. 😉

river hemlock
#

Already out of stock... hope to grab one soon though!

sleek hill
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@opaque hearth - exactly 😄

open girder
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all good 🙂

sterile forge
#

I tried to buy the product pick. It showed the discounted price.
But when I checked out it said that it was out of stock and would not let me order. Where should I send this question?

graceful widget
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Need to roll your own raspberry pi clone.