In theory, yes, you'd have to make your own version, but I think so.
#live-broadcast-chat
clear matrix
teal river
Actually I guess it could just be two MCUs without seesaw that send message back and forth...
Anyway, yeah, seesaw seems like an amazing way to quickly develop easy to use peripherals like the NeoKey :D
clear matrix
And the ATtiny is available, vs. the SAMD09 π
vivid ore
Isn't the point of seesaw to turn a microcontroller into an I2C peripheral?
I2c is'nt a great bidirectional bus, it's usually host and peripherial.
clear matrix
No idea, tbh. It's possible to use it as a controller or a peripheral. But I don't know its "point".
The point of this board was so Limor could do quick dev with it, but it was handy enough she put them in the shop π
But I don't know seesaw's real point.
teal river
Are I2C controllers maybe harder to work with? Or more expensive? Or a bit of both?
Lemme check Digikey...
vivid ore
Don't most MCU's serve as I2C controllers already?
teal river
I mean peripheral controllers
timid plover
@haughty quiver , what was this (at 7;41) in your product pic?
grand tusk
The ATtiny817 breakout should be placed on 'e' and 'g' on the breadboard (adjacent to the gutter on one side, one blank row on the other).
grand tusk
<@!327304398143488001> , what was this (at 7;41) in your product pic?
Nobody really knows, we call it Lars.
teal river
Lars is danger
grand tusk
Headers attached.
grand tusk
I can run one NeoPixel string on any GPIO pin? (ATtiny817)
rocky reef
3DHangouts Episode 346 LIVE in 30 mins! LED Glasses and Front Man Mask #3DPrinting https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live @hard hollow @rocky reef
lavish patrol
Greetings all. π
rocky reef
good morning, afternoon, evening and night folks!
lavish patrol
@shadow epoch 
shadow epoch
Ok I can watch now, W. Shatner is back on earth.
upbeat coral
Hey y'll
upbeat coral
Somebody got a haircut.
lavish patrol
Where's the ponytail?
woeful pond
looks like a Marine OOh Raa
rocky reef
shell mason
Captain Kirk tanks for this show
lavish patrol
That book is reminiscent of the book in "Ash vs Evil Dead"
shell mason
woeful pond
@lavish patrol lol I did not want to make it too neat. Tried to make it look old and a little sloppy
lavish patrol
<@!355463001706594305> lol I did not want to make it too neat. Tried to make it...
Looks cool anyway. π
wise iris
good morning everyone
woeful pond
He needs the blaster gun
shell mason
William Shatner just became Astronaut too
woeful pond
thanks
lavish patrol
It's a comedy series based the 1980s "Evil Dead" movies.
woeful pond
Cool glasses.
lavish patrol
π
shell mason
different shades you have
rocky reef
LED Glasses video https://youtu.be/Jdu1jryOfK4
Andriod app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adafruit.bluefruit.le.connect&hl=en_US&gl=US
woeful pond
Very cool glasses functionality!
lavish patrol
With those glasses you could make a spectacle of yourself...
woeful pond
lol
hard hollow
rocky reef
Adafruit Fritzing Library parts https://github.com/adafruit/Fritzing-Library/tree/master/parts
New Parts! 3D Parts on GitHub https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts
Learn Guide Project Code: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides
shell mason
SynthWaves
lavish patrol
No lawnmower this week?
urban gale
Don't jinx it
shell mason
Captain Kirk could use it too
urban gale
I've had the hardest time w/ snap-fit designs, but it's worth it
rocky reef
shiny silk green pla https://amzn.to/3ayOg29
woeful pond
Thanks just ordered it. What size magnets is it using?
lavish patrol
Christmas? What happened? Did I miss Easter? π
shell mason
hallomas
lavish patrol
Lol
upbeat coral
I'm still recovering from St Pattys Day.π₯΄
shadow epoch
Just Halloween all year round please and thank you.
lavish patrol
I'm still recovering from 2020...
woeful pond
Great tips.
ivory kiln
Hmm, the led glasses r a trip, & the mask is a great conbine idea. Anyone know where to find a Max Headroom Mask? integrate the LED glasses. π
Even Max would have been impressed. π
lavish patrol
Great show as always, guys. π
woeful pond
@hard hollow @rocky reef Great show, thanks guys
wise iris
thanks guys
hard hollow
thanks folks! cya tonight
urban gale
great show! see y'all tonight
rocky reef
thanks so much for hanging out folks!
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us.
haughty quiver
bye!
upbeat coral
π€ Now where did I set that green beer down?
teal river
prepares for project absorption
fallow fractal
nervously waiting for a form to participate π
nova totem
nervously waiting for a form to participate π
You'll do great! Everyone gets nervous
tame dew
Life is good when you find Adafruit delivery on the porch.
teal river
I need to make actual progress on mine >~> been like a month since I showed the start...
hard hollow
hey folks! get ready https://streamyard.com/euvr8jqhk5
teal river
Life is good when you find Adafruit delivery on the porch.
Yissss
fallow fractal
ty guys! β€οΈ bill murray
haughty quiver
Hi there humans!
fallow fractal
howdy jp!
teal river
Hi there humans!
Who you callin' human?! but hi!
upbeat coral
Hey y'll
nova totem
Yes... we are all humans here π€
viral sail
Good evening everyone.
tame dew
Now to get the CircuitPython 7 poster professionally framed.
woeful pond
hello
split gazelle
good evening folks
teal river
Now to get the CircuitPython 7 poster professionally framed.
I need to get my posters for 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 framed XD thinking about making a custom motorized frame to switch between them
robust horizon
teal river
I think I can say from the premise that Potentially Genius is genius
green bison
@fallow fractal I think it's the streamyard link above
shell surge
hi there π
tame dew
Been having fun with esp32-c3-devkitc-02. Nice board
ionic garnet
Howdy
teal river
I wish I could skate, I'd totally want to build those XD
ionic garnet
i need to try esp33
teal river
Ghosts, appropriate for spoop season
fallow fractal
<@456226577798135808> I think it's the streamyard link above
thanks i totally would've missed that! lol
green bison
hopefully I'm right heh
upbeat coral
No Twitch?
tame dew
i need to try esp33
Mouser had stock. Didnβt check Digi-Key
green bison
I think it's show and tell tonight
ionic garnet
cool stuff
shell surge
yes could be great for beginners π
teal river
Question: Could that brake be made more variable so you could have precise speed control?
shell surge
can combine with GPS data for fixing maximum speed π
robust horizon
ice cream is coming!
nova totem
can't go wrong with ice cream
teal river
can combine with GPS data for fixing maximum speed π
Yeah! GPS is so cheap these days, no problem adding it in!
robust horizon
this bluetooth stuff is responsive! I wasn't sure what to expect.
teal river
Ohhh, this is cool
shell surge
great project
smoky island
Wow, the BLE code editor is looking NICE! great job @sage aspen
nova totem
That is so cool @sage aspen
teal river
@sage aspen Big excite for this!
sage aspen
Thank you
teal river
Ohh, fastcam
pearl shoal
@sage aspen do you know if there the ble stuff will be segmented so that there's a library or example we can use if we want to expose sensor data via a website? I.e. a wrapper around webusb/webserial that works well w/Adafruit stuff?
teal river
JP!
nova totem
@robust horizon that looks so nice and smooth
ionic garnet
JP in the house
sage aspen
<@!478616919721771019> do you know if there the ble stuff will be segmented so t...
You may want something more like https://learn.adafruit.com/bluefruit-dashboard-web-bluetooth-chrome
robust horizon
it's deluxe. otherwise JP wouldn't be working with it.
ionic garnet
Picos are nice and cheap
split gazelle
do i spy...a googley eye?
teal river
@robust horizon So will that become a nice compact addon board or breakout board in time? Something you can pair with whatever display you like?
teal river
do i spy...a googley eye?
Lol, that's what I thought, but just a black screw on top of a round white thing
robust horizon
@teal river I don't yet know what form factor an adafruit camera would take. This add-on module just came from amazon
pearl shoal
You may want something more like https://learn.adafruit.com/bluefruit-dashboard-...
Excellent - I will check it out. We regularly want to take devices (CP BLE most likely) and make a quick prototype to provide access. For example, cap touch sensors for a user to send keystrokes. But then we need to adjust sensitivity, or do a "training" web page for them to practice or to auto-set parameters, etc. So this would help
shell surge
i've made the same with pico RGB keyboard from pimoroni and have 16 macro key that can code in ducky script π
but these 4 keys are cute
tulip canyon
great blink animation
teal river
<@!381566293368897537> I don't yet know what form factor an adafruit camera woul...
Ahh. Well, you've certainly got great progress there!
shell surge
glasses are great β€οΈ
teal river
Awwww, digikitty!
ionic garnet
Likey
robust horizon
@teal river thank you!
pearl shoal
When @rocky reef gets excited, he makes dogs bark π
smoky island
Love the look of that mask!
tame dew
@north harness recognized by Digi-Key! Props!
teal river
I haven't watched Squid Game yet... Eventually, maybe
ionic garnet
me neither
teal river
Wow, fast Jayy is fast
ionic garnet
great mask Jay
robust horizon
"I made a watch with it". wow.
ionic garnet
Great work Michael
tame dew
Squid Game doesnβt sound relaxing and peaceful. Pass for now.
ionic garnet
very creative
nova totem
Really cool watch, looks amazing
teal river
Michael, if you can share your models, I'd appreciate it -- working on my own watch and need help XD
tame dew
I am kind of enjoying Foundation even though I read the books 30-40 years ago and remember nothing except The Mule.
balmy steppe
Here's the code for the watch Im using rn. It's pretty rough, still trying to make it better... https://github.com/MichaelLacock/ML-Watch/blob/master/ML-Watch_OS_v0.3.3-v4.ino
teal river
@split gazelle Looking good :D I know the struggle of making boxes fit together... No matter how accurate your printer is, it still takes a few tries!
ionic garnet
Here's the code for the watch Im using rn. It's pretty rough, still trying to ma...
Really creative. Great work
tame dew
@split gazelle always great projects from Liz. Never fails to inspire.
split gazelle
<@!347203168121126912> Looking good :D I know the struggle of making boxes fit t...
yeahh i knew i was cutting it close π
split gazelle
<@347203168121126912> always great projects from Liz. Never fails to inspire.
thanks!
teal river
Here's the code for the watch Im using rn. It's pretty rough, still trying to ma...
Rough just means there's more fun to be had :D
ionic garnet
Nothing as classy as natural wood grain
nova totem
I think anyone designing 3d boxes has a pile of "did not quite fit"
smoky island
Beautiful looking box @tulip canyon great job!
balmy steppe
<@!347203168121126912> Looking good :D I know the struggle of making boxes fit t...
Here's my designs so far. the bottom cover isn't perfect but it works. https://www.tinkercad.com/things/lcgxjXpL5ka
tame dew
@tulip canyon love the wood box!
ionic garnet
not fitting molds is the only way to be
teal river
@tulip canyon Beautiful work!
shell surge
I think anyone designing 3d boxes has a pile of "did not quite fit"
yes until using Shapr3D for modeling π
split gazelle
beautiful enclosure
balmy steppe
Rough just means there's more fun to be had :D
The watch syncs up with bluetooth btw, once it disconnects it will continues counting which is important
teal river
Here's my designs so far. the bottom cover isn't perfect but it works. https://w...
Awesome, thanks! That watch band connector is going to save me a LOT of work, I was going to try to make a TPU band because I couldn't figure out how to use regular watch bands with my own prints
shell surge
when design keep in memory a margin of 0.4mm (the nozzle) for 3D printing tolerances
balmy steppe
Awesome, thanks! That watch band connector is going to save me a LOT of work, I ...
Glad it helps π
teal river
The watch syncs up with bluetooth btw, once it disconnects it will continues cou...
Ohh, nice. Do you have notifications and stuff yet? if you were going to add them anyway
shell surge
0.2 on some printers
balmy steppe
Ohh, nice. Do you have notifications and stuff yet? if you were going to add the...
No, I don't plan on adding it. I don't use an iPhone so it would be kind of a pain to get working, also I dont really like notifications on my watch
tulip canyon
Beautiful looking box <@!462694143861456896> great job!
Thank you!
smoky island
@tulip canyon whenever the time comes, I think you can use code like this from the REPL to get into bootloader mode without needing to access the reset button:
import microcontroller
microcontroller.on_next_reset(microcontroller.RunMode.BOOTLOADER)
microcontroller.reset()
Thank you!
teal river
No, I don't plan on adding it. I don't use an iPhone so it would be kind of a pa...
Ahhh... Yeah, iOS notifications aren't exactly easy to work with, and just wanting a watch to be a watch is valid! Mine is going to be more of a GPS watch
tulip canyon
<@!462694143861456896> whenever the time comes, I think you can use code like th...
Good to know. I was wondering if it would be frozen in time
ionic garnet
i wear an apple watch and honestly love it
tame dew
i wear an apple watch and honestly love it
Me too
ionic garnet
v6 smaller one
teal river
i wear an apple watch and honestly love it
Apple Watch is definitely one of the best smart watches if you have an iPhone
robust horizon
@tulip canyon if I recall correctly you can also hold the knob while plugging the device in to get the uf2 loader
teal river
Pong in a tube!
balmy steppe
Ahhh... Yeah, iOS notifications aren't exactly easy to work with, and just wanti...
Ya to sync up the time, i have to connect it to my ipad which is a downside. But it have it continue counting without the need for a real-time-clock, which is good
tame dew
Iβve been a willing participant in the Apple walled garden since 1983
ionic garnet
Love RGB neopixel-like LEDs
cool
I was briefly on the inside of apple ecosystem and even spoke on a panel at wwdc a long long time ago
smoky island
Clever idea, really neat game Graham & Matt!
tame dew
I once knew 6502 machine language by heart. No assembler necessary.
nova totem
that pong is so cool
teal river
Ya to sync up the time, i have to connect it to my ipad which is a downside. But...
Ohhh, no RTC, that explains how you kept it relatively small. I guess it's fairly accurate over the course of a day?
pearl shoal
That's an awesome switch tester π
nimble jackal
Slap-o-war
teal river
Clever idea, really neat game Graham & Matt!
Yes, I love this glowy game noodle!
split gazelle
great projects everyone!
teal river
Bai!
ionic garnet
Very good. Nice job Noe and Pedro
viral sail
Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.
tame dew
couldnt quickly find a 6502 emoji1
Life was simpler with significantly fewer instructions
nova totem
great projects all
pearl shoal
Great timing guys
teal river
Great show!
tulip canyon
Great stuff all. Thanks for having me!
hard hollow
excellent projects everyone! π
tame dew
Woot woot!
ionic garnet
for sure. I did more 8080 by the early 80s
quiet bridge
That's an awesome switch tester π
YES lol
turbid hill
hmm a 8080 as in intel 8080?
quiet bridge
If you're interested in Light Pong check out our kickstarter π https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aaqib/light-pong-game/
balmy steppe
Ohhh, no RTC, that explains how you kept it relatively small. I guess it's fairl...
In the code, I have a thing known as "New-Tick" which is to counteract any computing delay so its closer to be accurate to a second. its only a minute or two off after a few hours when off-line ble.
fallow fractal
that looks like a lotta funπ
quiet bridge
I was nervous to hop on live but that was cool, very very cool to see what other people are doing π
teal river
If you're interested in Light Pong check out our kickstarter π https://www.kick...
I propose the nickname of glowy game noodle. I love this! Do y'all have a website with positions you're hiring for?
nova totem
I was nervous to hop on live but that was cool, very very cool to see what other...
Glad you showed up with that project
fallow fractal
suffers from severe imposter syndrome
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/qZlMs8SrZ2s
tame dew
for sure. I did more 8080 by the early 80s
I was in the Apple ][ lab, not TRS 80. Plus the 128k Macintosh at the corner shop where I changed buses. I should have asked for a commission considering I was their demo team. For free.
turbid hill
sound like the adams family
fallow fractal
wizards and warriors
teal river
In the code, I have a thing known as "New-Tick" which is to counteract any compu...
That's not too bad! Just need to make sure you don't need to be somewhere at an exact minute XD
ionic garnet
yes Adams Family(ish)
teal river
I love the spoopy bleep bloops
quiet bridge
I propose the nickname of glowy game noodle. I love this! Do y'all have a websit...
We will be posting them on the website soon, but for now they're at the bottom of our Kickstarter page!
ionic garnet
excellent adaptation of bleepities
tame dew
Bleep bloops are the best
teal river
We will be posting them on the website soon, but for now they're at the bottom o...
Cool, thanks!
teal river
I always want to spell that word as "brouches"
turbid hill
sounds like a food item
tame dew
Iβm vaccinated
balmy steppe
That's not too bad! Just need to make sure you don't need to be somewhere at an ...
I could make it super exact, but it's really trial and error figuring out the exact hardware/chip delay. right now a second is considered 900 milliseconds. I have it so I could adjust it to be more exact, but again it's really trial and error.
ionic garnet
NICE! Vaxxers unite
turbid hill
ditto
teal river
Yay vaxx'd!
teal river
DIY watch
ionic garnet
dignity? Equity? This is strange talk from a business. JK. Love it!
def besides dogs and maybe guitars
pearl shoal
On the small business side, remember that the time off you give for covid (vaccination, sick time, caregiver time) is all eligible for tax refunds.
turbid hill
hmm do I need more free proto boards
ionic garnet
always
turbid hill
I now have to start a spreadsheet for all the sensor boards I have
tame dew
I have no idea how many embedded boards I have. Nearing 100 to be sure.
ionic garnet
get them from Amazon or other Circuit Playground Express sellers. I got one last week. Would have preferred Adafruit of course
turbid hill
sooo your saying I need more than one tab on my sheet to include all the boards I have... not bad idea
ionic garnet
@open girder clipped a bit
pearl shoal
Limor
ionic garnet
Limor
open girder
hmm
ionic garnet
just once
open girder
think it's fixed now
ionic garnet
yup
nimble jackal
@north harness AND @split gazelle in one show
pearl shoal
Yes, I don't hear it
turbid hill
triple nickles
open girder
thx
turbid hill
I heard it once
ionic garnet
could have been a fizz in my brain
turbid hill
just a slight clip for a moment
pearl shoal
I would have loved to see Limor's 555 circuit on that show - perhaps it's a good short video for this week?
teal river
Excited to get these buttons in my hands!
viral sail
I can't fir that in a breadboard.
teal river
Haha, that's an awesome stool
turbid hill
there she clipped again when she giggled
nova totem
I can't fir that in a breadboard.
Get a bigger breadboard?
teal river
I can't fir that in a breadboard.
You just need the matching breadboard!
Robot puppets? :O
ionic garnet
clipped a smidgen again
tame dew
I need to go watch puppet shows!
teal river
I need to go watch puppet shows!
They're awesome!
nova totem
peer pressure
ionic garnet
puppets frighten me. Stephen King will show you why someday
teal river
Limor clipped on "know"
tame dew
@rapid hornet dresses up for the show π―
nimble jackal
How many first IC circuits were a Mims 555 design?
ionic garnet
I am not concerned when it comes
teal river
Wow, delays might be until after Christmas? jeeze
turbid hill
now they are both clipping
tame dew
still sad travel was canceled for Embedded Linux Conference. I was looking forward to coffee with @rapid hornet
ionic garnet
I have one sub and one gift
pearl shoal
They can cancel their subscriptions.... OR they can be decent humans and deal with it.
teal river
I am not concerned when it comes
Hope for sooner, but acceptable to be later... c'est la vie
nova totem
year(ish) good enough π
open girder
tryin another mixer setting, we'll see if that fixed it
ionic garnet
exactly. I've got a dozen critical software development challenges, I am not going to stress or stress a favorite vendor over unanticipated delays
tame dew
Hot glue. Never enough
nova totem
It's not like I don't have (at least) a half dozen unfinished projects sitting around that I could work on either
upbeat coral
Hot glue. Never enough - Unless you're taking apart LAST years Halloween to make THIS years.:(
ionic garnet
I typically use brightness 0.1 or less on my neopixel projects that run on battery
teal river
Yeah, not starved for projects if AdaBox needs more time!
tame dew
It's not like I don't have (at least) a half dozen unfinished projects sitting a...
half dozen ^100
ionic garnet
right. Ne neither
turbid hill
I have piled up a nice amount of boards and stuff for my dec time off, I accumilated a month long vacation so lots of time to play around
tame dew
I have piled up a nice amount of boards and stuff for my dec time off, I accumil...
Last December was my sabbatical. It was a glorious month of Adafruit streams.
nova totem
I just switched jobs and now wish i'd taken more time off between them
turbid hill
yeah will be doing that but also I will be creating a bunch of new vids for my channel
might try out a live stream
tame dew
I just switched jobs and now wish i'd taken more time off between them
Always. Every. Single. Time
pearl shoal
The post office is the perfect organization to host public key infrastructure for individuals. Not sure if that's your article, but seriously, it would be so huge to have a semi-public entity that offered low-cost voluntary identity management for online presense.
We could actually solve phishing, spam, etc.
ionic garnet
yeah Jibo kickstarter
tame dew
ionic garnet
then $75M more
turbid hill
The problem is the US needs to get rid of that law that restricts what the postal system is allowed to do to earn funds
pearl shoal
Anyone have a link to the article?
fallow fractal
the trump administration happened π
turbid hill
That joy fellow happened
ionic garnet
thought you might enjoy. this is really right now. See the vid in pic
teal river
turbid hill
wow I thought my bench was cluttered
nova totem
thought you might enjoy. this is really right now. See the vid in pic
I first got wippersnapper going during AAE myself
ionic garnet
more different people are coding
yes
I switched off JavaScript to Python for backend
teal river
wow I thought my bench was cluttered
Projects on projects on projects
tame dew
thought you might enjoy. this is really right now. See the vid in pic
Grego sighting
teal river
How dare y'all make things easy and enable rapid iteration and doing more projects :P
ionic garnet
I confess to organizing my desk slightly
before taking the pic. It was a spider's web of cables and things on top of the MacBook Pro
lilac tusk
Projects on projects on projects
Oh no
tame dew
Merging 1.17 FTW
upbeat coral
I have a project to improve my project workspace, but I can't find it
ionic garnet
I started a thing
green bison
I'm too ashamed of my mess to post it
green bison
I just live in it, like a monster
fallow fractal
time to write hunt the wumpus for microcontrollers
tame dew
My desk is a National archaeological dig site.
turbid hill
My recording/Electronic bench
teal river
I just live in it, like a monster
I have stepped over a NERF gun that fell into the walkway for the last 3 months because I can't be bothered to bend over and pick it up...
lilac tusk
Lol
dim knot
open girder
10% discount code, one hour only! code is: brooches expires 10/13/2021 @ 10pm EDT http://www.adafruit.com
lilac tusk
Baby E-Ink projects
dim knot
upper sandal
I've literally seen somebody whine about Whippersnapper "dunmbing things down" on another discord server "we have raised a generation of sheeple." Unironically...
open girder
yep!
lilac tusk
Also more bread
open girder
that means we're doing a good job helping folks
lilac tusk
Not quite enough projects
teal river
I've literally seen somebody whine about Whippersnapper "dunmbing things down" o...
The older I get, the more I realize that as much as I love to tinker, sometimes it's better to be able to just grab a thing and make it do a thing and DONE
turbid hill
I think I will do a couple of videos on it as a person who has not even looked at it to see how easy/hard it might be.
teal river
Having something dead simple and fast to implement lets me do MOAR THINGS
tame dew
If you donβt need code. Donβt. Whippersnapper is brilliant.
teal river
Skateboard and power pose turtle are my favorites
ionic garnet
dumbing things down is exactly how to advance things
upper sandal
wait, you bought a CHAIR without learning first how to work wood and arc-weld metal legs ? do you even know how to drive a screw ?
lilac tusk
wait, you bought a CHAIR without learning first how to work wood and arc-weld me...
le gasp!
turbid hill
Like tha mascot
ionic garnet
i even let other people make my food sometimes
turbid hill
shocking
teal river
100% on board with no-code for things you just want to do. More like appliance tech -- things you grab and they do a do without intense setup
I too hate the access point junk XD
Haha, WipperSnapper turtle watching turtle
tame dew
I had to rebuild esp-rainmaker to get the esp32-c3-devkitc-02 to connect to my WiFi. Not a big deal for me, but not the CircuitPython experience.
tame dew
I could have used those two hours for something else
grand tusk
heh I put a neopixel ring in the Funhouse PIR port.
teal river
Yay free and easy!
CircuitPlaygrounds make me think of electronic flowers
Or lilypads
turbid hill
I just wonder if the factory footage is real current cause you can get a idea what is the pipe to being built
tame dew
Look at those beautiful boards
ionic garnet
oh that's a joyous site for educators
turbid hill
looks like molten silver
teal river
I wonder if the liquid Terminator was inspired by molten solder
teal river
XD
ionic garnet
for sure
tame dew
Solder fountains make me happy
ionic garnet
i have a fun Terminator story
teal river
Can we get a link to the "big wet meat sack go BZZT" stickers? lol
ionic garnet
for another day
fallow fractal
lolol
pearl shoal
Learning in my Torts class that those warnings are critical!
teal river
I haven't watched Squid Game XD
tame dew
Emily stickers FTW!
turbid hill
neither have I no squid for me
nova totem
An escape room I went to warned us not to stick a key into an electric socket... and they said the only reason they are warning us is it has happened
turbid hill
grey market in glasses swapping
vagrant flax
π
ionic garnet
the anonymous glasses swapping club!!!!
turbid hill
I love how all the 3D fasteners are metric yay metric
teal river
π
Oh hey, they were talking about your show
Support spaghetti XD Man I hate when that happens
ionic garnet
nice vid
teal river
That's so sharp
ionic garnet
I name a software platform spaghetti this week. It was not a kind thing
ionic garnet
but accurate
upper sandal
what am I even looking at ?
ionic garnet
Love my m1 air
grand tusk
wish I could be that cool
teal river
what am I even looking at ?
Mask from Squid Game... this is all I know
ionic garnet
no one is that cool
turbid hill
time to load up the shopping cart
ionic garnet
yeah
teal river
Ohhh, pretty switch
turbid hill
quick press it
ionic garnet
@open girder your live videos are such an effective marketing tool that works on me every time!
turbid hill
lol
teal river
Ohh, you could label it! Nice!
teal river
https://twitter.com/mle_online/status/1440036922353602568?s=12
Ahh, thanks!
lilac tusk
Lol
ionic garnet
clipping
tame dew
Ahh, thanks!
Convince Emily to resell them π
teal river
Convince Emily to resell them π
Gonna have to convince people to tweet her XD
tulip canyon
Is there a regional guide to the pronunciation of "button".
"buddon" "Butttonne" "butin'"
dim knot
OpenMV Cam H7 R2 - MicroPython Embedded Vision Machine Learning https://www.adafruit.com/product/4478
Adafruit Ultimate GPS Breakout - 66 channel w/10 Hz updates - Version 3 https://www.adafruit.com/product/746
nova totem
GPS is such a fun project to do once you have your feet wet with microcontrollers
dim knot
Wire Ferrule Kit - 800 pieces https://www.adafruit.com/product/5131
teal river
Question: Is there a difference between the PA1616S [shown on the Ultimate GPS Breakout v3 y'all showed] and the PA1616D [like the Ultimate GPS Module with no breakout]?
teal river
GPS is such a fun project to do once you have your feet wet with microcontroller...
And pretty easy! And so cheap these days! And accurate! Fantastic all around
grand tusk
cable or snek?
teal river
Appears to be snek
dim knot
Raspberry Pi Zero FPC Camera Cable - 30cm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5211
grand tusk
yeah snek
dim knot
Adafruit LED Glasses Starter Kit https://www.adafruit.com/product/5255
LED Glasses Accessories Kit - LED Glasses Not Included https://www.adafruit.com/product/5234
grand tusk
Borg your face with Adafruit.
ionic garnet
really nice
tulip canyon
lipo face-smoke no good
teal river
Borg your face with Adafruit.
Resistance is futile if <1Ξ©
lilac tusk
i tell ya, I love digikey but i am so confused by a part listing right now lol
dim knot
Kitty's Flowers - Pair of Bluetooth Wearable Brooches - Art by Physicist https://www.adafruit.com/product/5215
grand tusk
grover mode activated
compact sandal
brooches are lojack for your kids
teal river
Welcome back
Aww, feel better!
Question: Is there a difference between the PA1616S [shown on the Ultimate GPS Breakout v3 y'all showed] and the PA1616D [like the Ultimate GPS Module with no breakout]?
loud narwhal
Question: I have a fairly large VFD display that I managed to get working by following the very old data sheet. It runs on 5V but Iβm worried about both driving and powering it from my arduino micro if itβs pulling too many amps whatβs the worst thing that could happen, brown out? Would there be permanent damage, how can I avoid this?
nova totem
Question: will Wippersnapper be opened up for the community to add boards / accessories to hook up to it? If so any ETA?
teal river
Ohh, nice! More options good!
Question: What's the difference between the ESP32-S2 and ESP32-S2 WROVER, like in the FeatherS2 and ESP32-S2 Saola 1R Dev Kit respectively?
balmy steppe
Question: Is there a way to end Bluetooth on the nrf52 for the Glasses Driver board. In my situation, once it gets the time updated via bluetooth, I'd like it to turn off advertising ble to save battery life.
teal river
Lol, I do the same thing sometimes
ionic garnet
and u r a lot younger than me
teal river
I think it was whatever machine in the background running making it worse
nova totem
cool thanks didn't realize it was out there already, missed that! I figured the sensors would be "tricky"
digital crescent
teal river
Googles PSRAM
grand tusk
Would you offer the Seesaw breakout (ATtiny817) with headers already soldered on?
ionic garnet
Question: I am new to PCB design. What vendor would you recommend for custom shape, small volume custom PCBs?
tulip canyon
Question: How can I get the Macropad to register a held down key such as SHIFT?
Currently have to lift up and re-push. Doesn't persist using Hotkey sample.
teal river
Question: Where would be a good place to get a spool of the oldschool rainbow ribbon cable?
ionic garnet
guitars
strong acorn
@teal river and to further confuse things, the ESP32-S3 has a WROOM module variant that has extra flash and RAM
ionic garnet
thx
nova totem
Question: I am new to PCB design. What vendor would you recommend for custom sha...
JLC has worked for me but haven't tried anything too crazy yet
upper sandal
vroooom ?
echo canopy
On the DigiKey great search you pointed out the extreme improvement in the 555 Timer power consumption, do you see microcontrollers getting down to a few Ma or less ?
teal river
I just said oldschool because I remember seeing a lot of the rainbow cable in things from the 70s and 80s when I took them apart, lol
balmy steppe
Thanks guys!
grand tusk
teal river
Wait, can I use a straight ESP32-S2 module with CircuitPython?
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. π
tulip canyon
Thank you for another great show. See you next week
fallow fractal
ty adafruit
fossil thicket
Thank you. Have a great second half week of creating! 
teal river
Ohh, I can cook up my own ESP32-S2 board with RAM :D thanks!
grand tusk
Thanks Adafruit!
nova totem
Wait, can I use a straight ESP32-S2 module with CircuitPython?
I believe so. You would have to hook up RAM and stuff
teal river
I believe so. You would have to hook up RAM and stuff
Huzzah!
ionic garnet
thanks
teal river
Shows shows shows, I love shows~
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us.
grand tusk
ooh teasers
ionic garnet
so many good things
teal river
Thanks y'all!
Bartlebeats makes such great music
This sounds like a classic spoopy 8 bit game soundtrack, hehe
fallow fractal
"sneaking around a giant procession of baddies" fitting
ionic garnet
never boring -- life shouldn't be
grand tusk
Adabox ships in 4 days...
ionic garnet
i have fond memories of cheap simple synth chips in early puters
fallow fractal
i miss sound blaster 16
teal river
Ugh, BTC payment failed once again
Was able to transfer to another wallet of my own... What's going on?!
And I tried again and the app said broadcast failed, but the bitpay page says "awaiting confirmation"....
shakes phone
Welp guess I'll let that sit and see
glossy flicker
In case anyone is looking for them, Digikey has 21 glasses (PID: 5210) in stock at the time of me typing this message https://www.digikey.com/short/vfbnw9p8
teal river
Grr, timed out... well, let's see if I can pay from a different wallet!
tame dew
teal river
Ok, so... I did it with a manually set transaction fee and got it to work... phew
Although I now have a bunch in a paper wallet that I can't get out as easily as I thought, lol
I should make an ePaper wallet
smoky island
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays
sudden slate
Bitcoin is hard
I just bought 299,000 SHIB
If they get to 1 cent each, I'll have 2,990 dollars from 10$
Which is pretty good, if you ask me
$2,980 profit
haughty quiver
serious question: where the heck is Lars
haughty quiver
oh dear. hide
waxen thistle
serious question: where the heck is Lars
Where isn't Lars?
lavish patrol
Greetings, all.
shell mason
lars is everywhere
waxen thistle
Happy Larsday everyone.
lavish patrol
Lars is standing in for Captain Kirk...
haughty quiver
ha!
viral sail
Good afternoon.
grand tusk
hello all
teal river
Hewwo!
waxen thistle
Bleeps and bloops are a go!
inner spade
bleeps 'n bloops on YT
lavish patrol
Bleeps and Bloops. π
ionic garnet
joyous beepities
teal river
Beep boop bleep bloop!
shell mason
LarsFest
ionic garnet
JP is on
waxen thistle
....it looks a bit choppy....
leaden trail
biddi-biddi-biddi
lavish patrol
What fun is to be had. π
ionic garnet
choppity
shell mason
seems lars effect
ionic garnet
no data on the excellent connection
inner spade
mic audio very good, sync'd and peaking a -6dB
rich wing
Its just your magnetic personality π
teal river
JP WATCH OUT BEHIND YOU! Lars is lurking!
teal river
Choppy, but seems synced again
waxen thistle
Twitch is choppier than a cooking show on the Food network π
teal river
I think YouTube's "excellent connection" is based on standards from 2010
inner spade
sync is okay on YT, just a few dropped frames here and there. Very watchable.
shell mason
choppy as it look like small timeloop what is weird for sure
sterile forge
good on youtube
cinder wind
Which cord? Dis-cord? Dat-cord?
teal river
Audio quality is most important, and that's excellent right now
waxen thistle
Which cord? Dis-cord? Dat-cord?
The one Lars is gnawing on.
teal river
resonates excitedly for AdaBox
ionic garnet
me too doc
waxen thistle
teal river
Maybe the timer should be replaced with like "Adabox shipping by [estimated date] instead of a shifting timer
waxen thistle
waxen thistle
That PPotW really pushed my buttons.
teal river
ionic garnet
button me up
grand tusk
Potw board is filling up.
lavish patrol
@teal river The buttons are neither early nor late. They arrive precisely when they mean to.
waxen thistle
Always check the inner seam of your shirt & coat for a spare button.
teal river
<@!381566293368897537> The buttons are neither early nor late. They arrive preci...
Just like wizards XD
waxen thistle
Extension arms.
teal river
Bigger board :O
ionic garnet
not half price?
lavish patrol
Wait, what?
teal river
not half price?
Only during the show
grand tusk
Heh heh heh
vivid ore
Wrong person LOL
lavish patrol
LOL
ionic garnet
oh different show
teal river
During the Pick of the Week show, yeah
ionic garnet
i get it. I can be taught
teal river
Ohhh, rainbow glowy thing
ionic garnet
I had my credit card ready. May as well use it anyway
teal river
hehe
ionic garnet
I love colored lights. I am addicted to them
RBG leds are illuminating my office
as I showed last night
teal river
I'll order JP's pick on Tuesday with the cheapest shipping, then during Ask an Engineer I might get a big order with free shipping with the 10% off code :D
ionic garnet
me too
vivid ore
RIP macs
teal river
Oh oh, this one is INCREDIBLY useful!
grand tusk
This is where the money goes.
vivid ore
Nvm it fixed itself.
teal river
I used this trick on my little macropad I use for work -- not allowed to connect storage devices to my work machine, so this just looks like a keyboard!
sudden slate
I shall buy some soon and hope
yessss
shell mason
RunLars
ionic garnet
but my mind is like a mru cache
teal river
I have mine so I need to short pins to get it to boot without boot.py
Always forget what pins it is, lol
sudden slate
Maybe the timer should be replaced with like "Adabox shipping by [estimated date...
Yes, the timer got extended by a week today, unfortunately
cinder wind
Here's the Learn Guide JP was referring to https://learn.adafruit.com/customizing-usb-devices-in-circuitpython
ionic garnet
yeah i need a jumper too but can always kludge it
teal river
Yes, the timer got extended by a week today, unfortunately
Second or third time, but it's 100% worth the wait. Just gonna see when it gets here and be happy
ionic garnet
deploy is my favorite word related to geeky endeavors
vivid ore
Just make sure you set the conditional properly, otherwise you risk locking yourself out of your drive AND REPL
cinder wind
here's the gist JP mentioned: https://gist.github.com/todbot/a13549a9745beb8e3eadbd426b0c7f45
sudden slate
Second or third time, but it's 100% worth the wait. Just gonna see when it gets ...
I know - makes the heart grow fonder more excited
teal river
Hiding the CP drive for anything destined to be used as an appliance peripheral is a good idea
ionic garnet
very good idea consistent with principle of least permission
teal river
Ohhh, I thought that was a new type of QT Py!
ionic garnet
i was just asking about diffusers the other day on ask an engineer
viral sail
The Great Search with JP. π
teal river
Is it NeoPixel specific?
ionic garnet
making stuff up again
grand tusk
I call it Arthur.
cinder wind
I got mine off aliexpress
inner spade
rich wing
80? Lol.. 90 here in Orlando!!!
ionic garnet
i'm curious do y'aa use Mu or PyCharm or what for CircuitPython? All of you, not just JP
teal river
77F outside, 95F in here... I'm melting
ionic garnet
75 here in Sturbridge Massachusetts
I had light meetings today and spent an hour on the lake's beach with my doggy
clear matrix
i'm curious do y'aa use Mu or PyCharm or what for CircuitPython? All of you, not...
PyCharm.
teal river
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4044
vivid ore
Looks like someone popped the top offa this: https://www.adafruit.com/product/1451
ionic garnet
stream = ok
sterile forge
fine
drowsy inlet
π
cinder wind
losing a few frame
lavish patrol
All good here.
ionic garnet
clever!
smoky island
Nice tip about using rubber feet as a diffuser! Thanks for sharing.
cinder wind
here's what I got https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32584522999.html
teal river
Getting very choppy
ionic garnet
I have been looking for creative diffusion techniques for artsy/science-y craft projects
teal river
I think "MO is "MOSI"
ionic garnet
Nice tip about using rubber feet as a diffuser! Thanks for sharing.
i'm really excited about the rubber feetsy technique
teal river
Yup confirmed
grand tusk
Hot glue light pipes?
ionic garnet
reminded me how cute I find the Python Rules ruler I just got this week
lavish patrol
Noice.
teal river
Mmmm, nice mechanical calipers...
vivid ore
Earthquake? overhead cam is shaking a bit.
teal river
That's a tool you can keep forever!
spiral vale
how late am I to the party?
grand tusk
No earthquakes just Lars.
teal river
how late am I to the party?
29 minutes
ionic garnet
Earthquake? overhead cam is shaking a bit.
funny you say "earthquake". I called a CircuitPython program I wrote for Circuit Playground Express called "Earthquake Detector"
spiral vale
can I measure that with analog calipers?
grand tusk
No parsec for you.
ionic garnet
pretty simple app but one clever little trick
teal river
There are 4 lights
spiral vale
π
ionic garnet
w LED eyes
spiral vale
all squinting all the time
ionic garnet
i love the window led halloween cat
teal river
Ahh drat, that's what I forgot to add to my order
lavish patrol
ionic garnet
me too. placing a bigger order tomorrow
teal river
Actually, maybe I'll use some of my 100 NeoPixels and etch some boards by hand to make bigger eyes...
Mmm, slick
Nice
For this project, is there a benefit of having the diffuser with slits? Or did you just design it that way so you could use it while wearing too?
I wonder how well a piece of acrylic with baking parchment on it would do for diffusing
spiral vale
I wonder how well a piece of acrylic with baking parchment on it would do for di...
pretty ok
but you'll see some texture
could just use the paper
teal river
I think I might do a totally custom version of this project since I have dozens and dozens of loose NeoPixels, lol
ionic garnet
pokey tool is the only way to refer to it
teal river
could just use the paper
Fair
ionic garnet
I'm hoarding neopixels for the apocalypse
ionic garnet
it is murphy's law amendment that whatever type of usb you need is different than what you have
teal river
That board can also be set to use LiPo, although I don't think it'll work with alkaline after that without changing it back
ionic garnet
i just love that kitty
teal river
Very cute kitty
ionic garnet
Limor suggested not to use lipo if wearing
spiral vale
@teal river You could also look at photo/video lighting diffusion material from a camera store:
https://www.adorama.com/ro3026.html?adlclid=bc1032100482150e157753789148444e&msclkid=bc1032100482150e157753789148444e
lavish patrol
The blink is too fast for a kitty. πΌ
teal river
Limor suggested not to use lipo if wearing
Yeah, alkaline preferred to avoid face explosions
teal river
<@!381566293368897537> You could also look at photo/video lighting diffusion mat...
Ohhh, that's cheap
ionic garnet
now that we have CircuitPython I can't be bothered to do Arduino sketches or C/C++ projects
I'd rather port code to CP than bother
teal river
now that we have CircuitPython I can't be bothered to do Arduino sketches or C/C...
Same XD
spiral vale
If you're shopping for diffusion, look at the more opaque stuff for leds (tough white maybe)
ionic garnet
I love C++ but it's a pain
teal river
Oh wow, it was WAY better with the diffuser
ionic garnet
on Jibo I wrote C/C++ code for firmware of course but we also had JavaScript middleware level to simplify "skill" development (skill is to Jibo what an app is to smart phone)
teal river
Makes it look like there are a lot more pixels in the ring portions with the diffuser
ionic garnet
neopixels need diffusion cuz they are so bright
teal river
What a name!
clear matrix
I use cardstock as a diffuser.
ionic garnet
even at lowest possible brightness (which seems to be 0.007 I think)
clear matrix
ionic garnet
Cardstock?
clear matrix
Yeah, heavier paper basically.
ionic garnet
Got it
clear matrix
Designed for making greeting cards, etc, hence cardstock.
teal river
Designed for making greeting cards, etc, hence cardstock.
... I dunno how I didn't put two and two together on that many years ago XD
ionic garnet
I guess the name was pretty self-explanatory! re: card stock
spiral vale
@teal river Here's an example of a White (photo lighting) diffusion material about 2in in front of a tube of 512 neopixels https://www.instagram.com/p/CF_cqAkBLMP/
ionic garnet
BTW @clear matrix: I have been reading a bunch of your Learn guides and using libs you wrote. Thank you for all the great work you do!
teal river
kattni is certainly a prolific guide writer!
clear matrix
BTW <@!330227457296957440>: I have been reading a bunch of your Learn guides and...
I really appreciate the feedback! Guides are a weird medium in terms of knowing whether they're actually helping folks. Because there's really no feedback mechanism for it. So I usually only hear back when things are broken. π
ionic garnet
I really appreciate the feedback! Guides are a weird medium in terms of knowing ...
I was thinking exactly those two points: that it is a challenging medium and that there is no feedback mechanism. I considered the intended audience as I was assessing them. Why did I assess them? I'm a CTO. It's what we do. We assess technical content!!
context is everything
grand tusk
There wolf. There castle.
spiral vale
Where wolf?
teal river
The only silkscreen I'm not super excited about is the bug one
lavish patrol
There wolf.
teal river
Where wolf?
why wolf?
ionic garnet
Thank you @haughty quiver . Yup stream was good enough
lavish patrol
Who wolf.
ionic garnet
grandmother
lavish patrol
Woof!
waxen thistle
Thanks JP!
grand tusk
Thanks!
teal river
:O
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver
spiral vale
cat-wolf
ionic garnet
Which owl is on second?
lavish patrol
Isn't there a Lars one?
grand tusk
It was a hoot.
lavish patrol
Thanks, again JP! π
haughty quiver
bye!
ionic garnet
bleep
waxen thistle
Who's on stage? Yes, the Who.
spiral vale
Check your TV Guide
glossy flicker
Thanks, JP!
inner spade
Thanks @haughty quiver !
teal river
Oh, can #live-broadcast-announce be put over #live-broadcast-chat in the list? XD
grand tusk
Now what will we throw in the well?
clear matrix
Oh, can <#895770662990381056> be put over <#330406870256975873> in the list? XD
Why?
I mean, yes, obviously, but why.
haughty quiver
alphabetization :)
clear matrix
Hah fair enough.
ionic garnet
@haughty quiver my comment about "high production" values was meant as a compliment. You can tell you are a musician, actor, and educator by your approach to your work. It's very impressive and compelling. The streaming challenges are just joys of the interwebs
teal river
alphabetization :)
This!
clear matrix
I didn't even put together that the rest of the list was alphabetical. That was accidental for this section.
haughty quiver
thanks much @ionic garnet :)
clear matrix
I'll allow it. π
teal river
Kattni, my hero! Thank you :3
haughty quiver
whoa quick fix @clear matrix
clear matrix
Magic.
ionic garnet
catch you all in a discord near you soon
rapid hornet
Notes doc for today is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lWv3dhR4SQTimvSLNYAEDgZhMiyXnVo4qtNGIeIixyI/edit?usp=sharing
timid plover
"reminder" is on at https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live π
rapid hornet
gonna start nowish @timid plover
simple fractal
i sometimes wonder how a company ships a board with 0, none, nada, docs. must be me
I here a wild scott
hear at least
lilac salmon
Hi Scott. Happy Friday!
modern night
Howdy all, hope everyone is doing well
brazen quail
Hola from 'rado ! :-D
sterile forge
sounds good fro herre
nova totem
I can imagine how weird it is, I feel I live in my headphones
tame dew
Hello from the beginning for once
simple fractal
just bought an album from bandcamp, jason isbell. He said all proceeds go to good causes.
tame dew
I fixed a problem with one character. It was a βTβ. Lol
odd zodiac
Hello all from Cornwall
left pier
π
@timid plover I changed the script for the Deep Dive repo so it just pulls your show notes from the YT episode and then converts it to Markdown, Easey peasey once I just used a regex and not beautifulsoup to get the notes.
timid plover
<@!649453464988155906> I changed the script for the Deep Dive repo so it just pu...
anytime you can eliminate a step is a good thing, can you handle it if the youtube notes are updated later?
left pier
I was thinking maybe it could run on a schedule ... but I've not looked into that yet.
Can you commit a file from a GH action? /shrug_of_not_knowing
upper sandal
you can, you gotta setup some secret key for it, but other than that yeah
if you trigger your action on push, and then push from it you might create an infinite loop of actions though π
upper sandal
(Circuitpython releases push a commit to circuitpython.org via the github python API for example, it's on another repo, but it's just calling the API from the CI instance so...)
tame dew
I tend to prefer PR from a different account/repo and require a human for the final check
left pier
Scott that's awesome !
upper sandal
yeah, that's a good option
timid plover
so that pointer is greater than 4 Gb ?
left pier
The pointer is outside the expected address space I think?
tame dew
But, GitOps is the future, so I can be convinced to trust Skynet the machines
timid plover
whats at 0x13cb40 ?
timid plover
are you diving into how to decode the call stack ( after the crash? )
make sense
- that makes sense π
what layout do other raspberry pi kernels use for a call frame ?
interrupt call frames are different from function call frames, right?
are different types of exceptions using different call frames too?
ok - what's your alternate channel that you are reading from π
left pier
I think the people in my day job life wait till 2-4 on Fridays to call me... without fail.
timid plover
what about dumping memory, and drawing boxes on what the frame looks like π ( reverse engineering )
so your exception hander is trying to save that 'unsaved' state ?
left pier
I'm doing some 101 lookups ...
"The typical call stack is used for the return address, locals, and parameters (known as a call frame). "
nice picture n that page for those not used to being so deep
timid plover
is this like an editor religious discussion ( does the stack grow up or down π )
so eventually your bare metal code wants to decode the exception, ( before it is trashed ), right?
so you want to fake it so gdb can trace back - that's a different problem
but this doesn't describe exceptions π¦
you already showed a usage of "info frame" - mentioned here https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2014/01/gdb-backtrace/
backtracing in gdb documentation mentions threads - maybe it would help to think of the exception as being in a different thread?
you don't suspect open OCD and gdb yet
maybe we need to walk throught that exception assembly macro
does the CPU push a FP or any extra registers during the exception
simple fractal
its funny that my google turns up '
Deep Dive w/Scott: Raspberry Pi TinyUSB'
timid plover
objdump or gdb dissassembly should show if a function is using the frame pointer ?
well - trivial would be real nice right now π
right - C++ exceptions are not the exception we are looking for
if it makes you feel better, you are not the first person to encounter this - I'm sure some other kernel or bare metal project has done this before
modern night
debugging is really relaxing to see from my perspective. Knowing how someone moves forward when things aren't working is always so informative
left pier
Even "hey usb is blocked lets move on to this ... " is a good lesson for people new to bigger projects
So a co-host for next week ?
0536 in Vietnam
timid plover
what does the hardware standard say the CPU does when it encounters an exception?
odd zodiac
does it come down to the exception entry code needing to update frame pointer (x29) to be stored on the stack to a GDB "correct" value, rather than storing the previous frame pointer value when exception occurs?
timid plover
maybe there is another word for "exception" so we don't mix it up with C++ or other language "exceptions"
you have our attention!
odd zodiac
I noticed that when you initially back-traced FP was the same value in both versions of the stack
balmy tinsel
I'm doing my best follow along but every time assembler appears on screen my brain panics
balmy tinsel
stp = store, I learned something new today
balmy tinsel
are the assembler commands (is that the right term?) abbreviated to save space ?
timid plover
STP Wt1, Wt2, [Xn|SP], #imm ; 32-bit general registers, Post-index
STP Xt1, Xt2, [Xn|SP], #imm ; 64-bit general registers, Post-index
STP Wt1, Wt2, [Xn|SP, #imm]! ; 32-bit general registers, Pre-index
STP Xt1, Xt2, [Xn|SP, #imm]! ; 64-bit general registers, Pre-index
STP Wt1, Wt2, [Xn|SP{, #imm}] ; 32-bit general registers, Signed offset
STP Xt1, Xt2, [Xn|SP{, #imm}] ; 64-bit general registers, Signed offset
so it really matters where the number is
simple fractal
we like our assembler to be neatly fitted into columns
left pier
Ha, I was getting the same thing
https://github.com/oowekyala/arm-cheatsheet/blob/master/arm-cheatsheet.pdf
timid plover
I didn't plan on learning this today either π
balmy tinsel
okay makes sense
nova totem
If anyone has been looking Digikey has a small number of the LED glasses and nRF driver boards available
balmy tinsel
I imagine the formatting makes it easier to read, assuming you know how to do so in the first place
nova totem
I ordered the glasses and then I guess the driver board showed up in stock the next day after, so another order. Right now my brain is on the level to handling LEDs only
modern night
holy cow where did the time go
left pier
There are articles on "ARM Stack unwinding" but I don't know which would be useful.
simple fractal
i used this stream to pay all my bills. and update expiring credit cards. so something got done π
balmy tinsel
I tried to fix my terrible cable management
it's still bad but not as bad as it was
simple fractal
And i did lose the thread of what was the original problem π
i also started looking at a board i just got in. stm32h725 based. with no docs. so kind of useless
left pier
It makes your success all that much more funner !
tame dew
Itβs realistic to see you struggling. Not every day is a slam dunk.
modern night
I spend most of my time not succeeding, the success bit is the rare part. Learning how others tackle problems is great because everyone draws on different resources, and you get to see what those resources are
simple fractal
fish is great. i was just installing it on a ubuntu vm
left pier
timid plover
you weren't planning on using the dwarf debug information to help with stack unwinding π
Gdb should have access
I forgot - were you compiling 64 or 32 bit?
tame dew
Other than my missing T typo earlier today, my biggest success was from reading the docs https://mesonbuild.com/howtox.html#get-a-default-notfound-dependency
One character and one line. Mic drop
timid plover
looks like you are looking at the assembly pseudo instructions that support the debugger
odd zodiac
how easy is it to going to be to convert my .bashrc to .fishrc?
simple fractal
same here omf and bobthefish theme
tame dew
Finally got a mag tag. Anybody know how long the battery lasts if the leds are on? Probably better to default to them offβ¦
simple fractal
and there is a function bass that will allow you to run bash scripts under fish. think i used that once
utility i should have said
left pier
We need a wireless charger interface for the MagTag and then your refrigerator (or whatever you stick it to that's plugged in) needs to supply it power ...
simple fractal
yes
but sometimes that doesnt work . or at least i needed bass once.
there is always a linux utility somewhere to fix things
left pier
Do it, try it. What's the worst thing that could happen ?
simple fractal
the author has the reasons for bass in the repo.
balmy tinsel
it's time for me to head out, thanks for the great show Scott!
grand tusk
Slept through most of it, sorry.
sudden gate
Thanks @rapid hornet for another one β¦ have a great weekend!
timid plover
time to dump memory ?
simple fractal
thanks scott.
modern night
This was a good stream, thank you! It's a neat and finicky problem, it was nice to see you work on it
left pier
@simple fractal winter is coming !
simple fractal
i used to dump huge swaths of mainframe memory. looking for stuff π
left pier
Thanks Scott !
simple fractal
yep. very late fall feeling this week
odd zodiac
cheers all
left pier
π»
grand tusk
Thanks
timid plover
cood luck Scott!
rapid hornet
thanks all!
tame dew
ππββ¬πΎπΎ
green bison
Aw I missed this one, will have to watch later
I'm very excited for the things coming to the pi
rapid hornet
got repl working over uart but then crashing
green bison
crashing is no fun but I trust you to fix π
smoky island
Stream starting in just a few minutes. We're working on a Pacman clone today. Hang out with me here in the chat, and follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Agi7WzAURI
grand tusk
Hello. Today I'm driving an ESP32 and the ATtiny817 Seesaw Breakout.
Yeah, it's the new Seesaw board.
I'm using it with a 8 led NeoPixel stick.
green bison
I'm very late but happy to be here
You should consider reading audiobooks, you have a very steady voice
wind spoke
You mean CircuitPac or PacCircuit or ???
green bison
PackMan, it's all about working in an Amazon warehouse loading circular packages
I'm on board, seems different enough. When's the first investor meeting?
I've got $5 on it!
true
wind spoke
So if the main character is a PieChart... what are the enemy and what is he running after?
green bison
Quarterly Reports
are the enemy
It's chasing "synergy" but can never catch it because that word means nothing
clever summit
I subscribe to a tech history magazine, and they actually had an article about Pac-Man in it. Turns out it was designed to attract women to arcade games.
wind spoke
Oh and how Philips made a non clone and won in court (AFAIK).
I think it was on VideoPack.
Atari
clever summit
Also, it was to be called Puckman, bit they realized the letter F was a danger...