live-broadcast-chat

[gusty wedge]

I like espnow for some things.

[teal river]

Is your blue LED dead? :P

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-andromeda-initiative-coffee-gif-11476980

[teal river]

Hmmmm.... Iron Man is older than CSDL

[tame dew]

https://wehackthemoon.com/people/how-draper-trained-astronauts

[warm dust]

circuitpython(.)org/ide sounds cool and it could be cross platform

• will source libraries straight from the server

[tame dew]

Hmm 1963 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man

[modern night]

I agree, solid blue is a good affirmation/feedback

[teal river]

Yeah, CSDL was founded in 1973, so a decade later, but Draper was around long before that doing sciencey things

But the Iron Man Wiki says nothing about Draper

copy copy copy

[tame dew]

Urban legend!

[teal river]

Might be! Researching...

[tame dew]

TIL

[upper sandal]

Google Chrome has webserial, but some work needs to be done before we can have a great working circuitpython.org/repl

[teal river]

I see a lot of people calling Draper "the OG Tony Stark" and similarly saying he's like Tony, but nothing to say that he was an inspiration for Tony [at least not specifically]

[tame dew]

“Setting up a bot “ so we can have live crowd coding

[upper sandal]

I believe some people here looked into it a little a while ago

stuff like that https://www.serialterminal.com/

[warm dust]

Cat cam will win if you let us choose

[wind spoke]

A bit of Node-red and OBS plugin... should be possible to make a bot. I have seen that a lot on Twitch.

[teal river]

Cat cam > code cam

Kitty! <3

Spook is such a beautiful baby

I thought you said boop discovery, lol

[teal river]

According to an article on mentalfloss, Stan Lee got the inspiration for Tony from Howard Hughes

I missed whatever happened XD

[modern night]

that looks pretty clear--it's obvious that you hit the ble workflow with the press. Nice job

[teal river]

Yay reading!

Slow reading > no reading

Autocorrect can be pain

I know there's a way to disable it for certain text fields

But hey, progress!

Welcome to the NVMe PCIe 4 club!

[tame dew]

https://dev.to/stealthmusic/why-you-should-do-coding-dojos-3n4j

[modern night]

ohhh!!! Data science is lovely but eats storage and ram like no other

[teal river]

I need moar RAM....

But this machine is maxed out, so it'll be in another machine XD

[tame dew]

The last time I was pricing out maxed ram on a system, it was $12k.

[teal river]

BTRFS :O livin' on the edge, aren't we?

[gusty wedge]

❤️ btrfs.

[wind spoke]

Maybe a livebroadcasting branch in github?

[warm dust]

@rapid hornet can you move the deep divers role up in hierarchy... I’d like blue for a change

[teal river]

I have 1.73TB out of my fresh 2TB drive, lol

Well, 1.81TB formatted max

[waxen thistle]

My poor nas has like 3tb free/33tb used.

[teal river]

I... think I was about that >~>

[teal river]

My main server is like that XD

Scott, full specs of your machine please? :O

I wonder how close yours is to mine

There's another CSV that's 11G!

[sly radish]

Yikes! ... that's one HUGE CSV

[modern night]

Ohhhhh it's the provider reported data

ah, Nebraska has a law they're debating to have an independent group validate those reports

[teal river]

I tried zooming out so I could see more of the country and it just stopped loading

[modern night]

is the speed test logged by going to a location in the counties (not previously negotiated by the ISP) and having a third party run a test?

[warm dust]

Bye divers... I’ll have to leave early today, thanks Scott for the deep dive.

[tame dew]

Data dessert!

[teal river]

lol

Does it only do Washington?

I'd like to see my state [PA]!

[modern night]

Western nebraska where it's only dialup

[teal river]

That sounds like a crime against humanity

[tame dew]

Interactive web UI like this is hard to do efficiently on the fly

Cache! Jinx

[wind spoke]

"It's a bit slow, but it works for me... by the way, I have 16CPU in my computer."

[teal river]

I can't hear your fan over my fan XD

[modern night]

My brother is an aid to a legislator and they're working on a law to help improve it. Buuut it's nebraska so they don't have high hopes

[teal river]

I have 16 cores too :D but it's like, 0 impact on system performance to load that page

Philly area, near Camden is where I am

[modern night]

Technically the lawbill is exclusively to appropriate funds to validate the reported speeds, so that when it's shown to be not accurate they can require funds be allocated to get faster speed internet out there

[teal river]

My hair is kinda long XD

I too go too long between haircuts

I wanna see the task manager of your machine while doing this XD

[wind spoke]

hairdresser have been closed a few times and for a very long time in Belgium... thanks to COVID. On 2nd and 3rd wave.

[teal river]

I cut my own hair the last time

[gusty wedge]

= here

[teal river]

Outside of that one self haircut, I've had 1 haircut in the last... year and a half?

10/1 should be a crime

I think 20 synchronous should be the MINIMUM

[modern night]

That's a huge improvement for a lot of NE

yeah about there

And that's the motivation for the bill--it's not necessarily correct

[teal river]

Will there be anything to add service quality? Like, Comcast here offers the same general speeds as Verizon here, but the actual service quality and customer service is very bad

[modern night]

It is correct if you're testing and not letting anyone else use the line and you're testing Right next to the ISP, not in a house a few miles away

[wind spoke]

Your fight for fiber is not technology neutral, so it would be killing the non-fiber competition. Is that good for competition?

[gusty wedge]

At least killing DSLs is very good

[teal river]

Killing non-fibre would be good for innovation

[gusty wedge]

No decent provider should be doing DSL or similar, not even in 🇨🇷

[modern night]

That sounds sooo wonderful

[tame dew]

5G towers will need multiple fiber or forget caring

[simple fractal]

Just saw that there is a collab editing platform that works with sublime (amongst others) and is 'free' for 5 public workspaces. Never tried it but may be fun
https://floobits.com/

[teal river]

Fibre killing non-fibre would make it "innovate/switch or die" for non-fibre companies, but there's nothing keeping them from moving to fibre

[wind spoke]

Ok, we do that for electricity.

And other stuff too.

[teal river]

Internet for all!

I wish I had faster than 100/100

What's the first number?

[gusty wedge]

I wish I had more than 1M :þ

(I do, but I'm using wifi across the street from my business.. so 1M)

[teal river]

Scott, that Ziply might actually be fibre, but very very old -- early fibre internet services started with DSL-like speeds

[modern night]

Does that graphic show the number of people they serve? Because some of those look amazing, but if they serve 2 clients, it's still something of a internet desert

[wind spoke]

I have in theory 400/20 over cable... that is the best I can get here. It's enough (even if I would like more upload). But most people do not need such bandwidth.

[tame dew]

Racsa 😦

[modern night]

haha that explains some of the nebraska values

[left pier]

Hey I showed up two hours late again ... but right on the WA part

[teal river]

Does the data separate residential vs. business, or is it all lumped together?

Lawnmowers? :O

[shell mason]

nice background audio we have

[teal river]

lol

I think that's leaf blowers...

[gusty wedge]

I hope they are not blowing 🍃 .

[shell mason]

more like cars

[gusty wedge]

There's nothing wrong with leaves on the ground.

[nova totem]

For a moment I thought my neighbor had started to cut their grass

[wind spoke]

Will the "backbone" follow if we go fiber to the desktop everywhere. Most people do not need that much and hopefully will not use it.

[teal river]

Advertised rates SHOULD be the promised rate!

[modern night]

This is really nifty. Is there any way to ... highlight lack of reliability between the advertised speeds and the provided speeds?

[teal river]

Honk honk! :D

[waxen thistle]

....how'd my Macbook Pro 2013 get out there? And how'd you get it to be that quiet? Normally it's louder....

[tame dew]

I have systems with fans MUCH louder than that.

[balmy tinsel]

Never understood how not hitting the advertised rates isn't false advertising

[teal river]

lol

[gusty wedge]

It happens to me two. Scott has a nice mic, and I have some nice speakers. A while ago I had to mute to listen if the plane what there or here.

[tame dew]

90db

[teal river]

My machines are all loud XD

[modern night]

THAT is a direction I'm excited to see!!

[nova totem]

I'm almost under a flight path, I always know if its actually here! 🙂

[teal river]

They should only be allowed to advertise the minimum promised speed

[gusty wedge]

Don't watch the NOVA special on electric planes then... They talk a bit about the pollution under the flight path...

[tame dew]

Zero

[nova totem]

And awesome end to the friday, my adafruit order just was delivered

[modern night]

What about when a provider prioritizes speed tests over standard packets?

[teal river]

It should not be zero

[balmy tinsel]

Yeah sounds better, if I lose service every other week does that mean the min. speed is zero?

[waxen thistle]

Roads? Where we're going we don't need.....roads.

[modern night]

This is a fantastic project

[teal river]

If you're losing service every other week, you should be compensated in some way for downtime, especially if you're working -- if they promise a minimum of 100MBPS, they should suffer if they break the promise

Not sure if Verizon is being sluggish or something on the network is downloading without my knowledge

[gusty wedge]

How does starlink fits into this maps?

[teal river]

Should Starlink be listed separately? 'cuz it sounds like it's going to be in a totally different class compared to classic satellite internet

Try SpaceX?

[tame dew]

Hughes was InterNOT

[modern night]

Was that duck on stream or should I step outside?

[left pier]

"Starlink is available to a limited number of users per coverage area at this time. " I think its really beta still

[teal river]

oop

quack

[gusty wedge]

BTW, I do need a better way to know the time of the stream.

One of my browser says the stream started 30 minutos ago, and the other one says two hours ago.

(for the time codes)

[left pier]

@gusty wedge if youre in the Deep Divers groups, you get reminders, IF you're logged into Discord which I was not today

[shell mason]

it is beta still

[teal river]

You said it does NOT have the maps in the code?

[gusty wedge]

I ment it for adding time codes to the document. I could only add one today and it's quite imprecise.

[shell mason]

https://www.starlink.com/

[gusty wedge]

I think a week or two ago I did added a bunch of topics to the time codes.

[teal river]

Starlink sounds interesting... If they can make it reliable, since the latency is so much lower, that'd be swell

Thanks for the show Scott!

We're gonna miss you!

[left pier]

Woo Hoo Vacation !

[gusty wedge]

@rapid hornet Have some amazing vacations.

[ancient grotto]

Thanks Scott

[proper prawn]

Have a nice vacation Scott! Bye everyone

[teal river]

Cat bath!

[waxen thistle]

Thanks @rapid hornet for another excellent Deep Dive! And special thanks to @haughty quiver for being a guest!

Enjoy your two week break 🙂

[tame dew]

Save the night sky

[gusty wedge]

I like Starlink for Isla del Coco which is quite remote.
For the rest of the world, noup.

[teal river]

Maybe we should have a sad stream while Scott is away

[shell mason]

starlink have the save the night sky thing

[teal river]

I have an old BLE Arduino...

[gusty wedge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocos_Island

[modern night]

Have a great vacation and some selfcare! Thanks for everything you've done and thanks everyone who joins! This is one amazing community

[left pier]

Enjoy your time off, thanks for the stream which I'll watch later. I'm excited to hear more about the BLE work

[gusty wedge]

BTW, I'm going to Isla del Coco in a couple of months.

[teal river]

Bai Scott!

[gusty wedge]

I still can't believe it...

[nova totem]

have a great vacation

[teal river]

Lots of cat pets!

[shell mason]

hey satellites internet connected with fiber great combo

[grand tusk]

ciao

[teal river]

We need lots of kitty for a 3 week break!

Aww look at the sweet baby <3

Bai!

[gusty wedge]

[left pier]

Maybe the catcam will turn on every Friday automatically

[teal river]

Hehe, auto-catcam would be nice

[shell mason]

maybe catbedcam too right @left pier

[teal river]

Just sit and chat and watch the cat for 2 hours

[shell mason]

powered by circuitpython

[teal river]

lol

[tame dew]

Thank you @rapid hornet

[teal river]

Should I stream at Scott's normal time next week and we can talk about how awesome Scott is? XD

[tame dew]

@smoky island might have a guest stream or two

[teal river]

If he's streaming at Scott time, I can certainly get to see what his streams are like :D

Weekend streams are kinda hard for me

[sly radish]

I don't envy his Inbox on return ;-P

[teal river]

lol

[tame dew]

Mailbox full

[modern night]

They're fantastic streams. Very relaxed and step by step for what he's working on! I believe he also keeps the vods so you can look those up if you've got some time and are interested

[smoky island]

I may do some on friday's while scott is out. If so it'll end up starting 1 hr later than normal deepdive time.

[teal river]

I wish I had more time to watch things DX but I do like chill streams

I was working on a few things while watching this, lol

[waxen thistle]

@smoky island If you do stream next Friday, give me a heads up -- I'll see if I can hop on to assist.

[smoky island]

Will do. Thank you

[teal river]

I dunno about my fellow Deep Divers, but I wouldn't mind getting a ping if the slot is being taken by a guest

[sly radish]

I suspect John will go long next two Fridays

[waxen thistle]

JP typically streams on Thursdays 🦥

Though he does switch up as needed. It was a nice Friday today, three hours of excellent streams.

[teal river]

I certainly enjoyed it!

[gusty wedge]

We need a @deep_foamers group 🙂

[teal river]

Lol

[tame dew]

🧽

[brazen quail]

Keep it real.

[teal river]

Keep it foamy.

[sudden slate]

Iron Man is the BEST!

Other than Scott and all of Adafruit 🙂

[gusty wedge]

Something is foaming up?

[smoky island]

I'll be streaming this morning working on stubs and some circuitpython org projects. Hang out with me here in the chat, on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XStm-Qmnxw

[gusty wedge]

Does 76 has arm laptops or only x86?
Another nice one is the Pine laptops, but I won't have any money for the following months, so I won't have any 🙂

[grand tusk]

Hey everyone!

[gusty wedge]

Audio is ok.

btw, if you are on linux, and you have a webcam, maybe there is a nice use for the rotary encoder. You can focus the camera by using video for linux. Something like
cmd = "v4l2-ctl -d " + dev + " -c focus_auto=" + str(focus_auto)

(I'm still looking for a portable way to do this)

[clever summit]

👋

[gusty wedge]

I have played a bit with actions, nice to learn together.

Yeah, that focus scott uses if extra cool.

[clever summit]

Sony ZV-1, I have one.

Just a heads up, if you are doing long live streams on the ZV-1, the battery will run out. The USB charging is lower power than the camera uses. In my testing it can do 5-6 hours. Since I use this as my main Zoom meeting setup, that wasn't enough. Had to buy a "fake battery" and a mount adapter. Now I can stream indefinitely.

[manic vessel]

Hi everyone.
@smoky island is this uploaded anywhere yet. My PyCharm is hungry...

[smoky island]

https://github.com/FoamyGuy/circuitpython-stubs-foamyguy-test

pip install circuitpython-stubs-foamyguy

[manic vessel]

sdist = source distribution

[gusty wedge]

source distribution

Yes, use two cores to compile C stuff.

Well, jobs in general, not only C stuff. (I'm mad at make -j# because I'm compiling gcc at the moment...)

[manic vessel]

stubs:
    @mkdir -p circuitpython-stubs
    @$(PYTHON) tools/extract_pyi.py shared-bindings/ $(STUBDIR)
    @$(PYTHON) tools/extract_pyi.py extmod/ulab/code/ $(STUBDIR)/ulab
    @$(PYTHON) tools/extract_pyi.py ports/atmel-samd/bindings $(STUBDIR)
    @$(PYTHON) tools/extract_pyi.py ports/raspberrypi/bindings $(STUBDIR)
    @$(PYTHON) setup.py -q sdist

.PHONY: check-stubs
check-stubs: stubs
    MYPYPATH=$(STUBDIR) mypy --strict $(STUBDIR)

check-stubs runs stubs and then mypy

Makefile

[gusty wedge]

Description-en: optional static typing for Python
 Add type annotations to your Python programs, and use mypy to type check them.
 Mypy is essentially a Python linter on steroids, and it can catch many
 programming errors by analyzing your program, without actually having to run
 it. Mypy has a powerful type system with features such as type inference,
 gradual typing, generics and union types.
 .
 This package provides the command-line interface.

mypy it's a deb package as well.

I think you only need to call twine like you are doing on your repo, and use the same path that is specified for the stubs.

I tough the github actions for circuitpython where using a docker image with stuff preinstalled, but looking at it now, it seems it's using stock ubuntu.
That's a nice way to speedup the builds quite a bit.

Yes, I think you can comment a bunch of boards out to speed it up. Maybe something else will break...

[manic vessel]

You'll need to add your TWINE_USERNAME and TWINE_PASSWORD to secrets.

Correction the PYPI...

It lets me add PYPI_USERNAME on my fork of circuitpython

[gaunt plume]

👋

It's HOT out!

CI angry

tools/https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/main/tools/ci_new_boards_check.py

https://github.com/yodamad/gitlab-emoji

idk if works for github actions tho...

nice hack - ive been trying to find a utility for this encoder

[gusty wedge]

We need that but with bicycle foot pedals 🙂

[gaunt plume]

shakes fist at yaml

[manic vessel]

There is a step missing called need-pypi . It might have been removed weeks/months ago when they stopped uploading the stubs.

It was last uploaded to PyPi may 26 2019

It also looks like it was Travis back then, not Github Actions

Because it's on a Branch it will never generate a valid version for PYPI

Or I've not figured a way before.

You might be able to work on foamygut/circuitpython/main. Maybe!

*foamyguy - sorry

It does something like git --describe --tags <I don't know what else> to figure out the version.

I know the problem but I don't know how to fix it for this.

It expects a VIRGIN git checkout matching what is on git

As soon as we add files git calls itself dirty

Further up the log
Normalizing '7.0.0-alpha.3.dev.18+gb1bd345c6' to '7.0.0a3.dev18+gb1bd345c6'

ports_windows is to check the build process will work on Windows with msys2 installed

[manic vessel]

It will be a problem because there are newly created files (the stubs) which have not been uploaded to git.
Although...

if there is a .gitignore entry covering the stubs directory, it might work.

A question about github.com/circuitpython - does Adabot run on it?

[gusty wedge]

nice

[manic vessel]

It's your username - maybe that's why its being blanked out?

It's there - https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/fa/1c/5f0447d6aaa9b0f3e27e9d211bd99a07b4bfa68c8c2af51f356d27ac15db/circuitpython-stubs-foamyguy-1-7.0.1.tar.gz

[gusty wedge]

I'm playing with the docker image with dev stuff preinstalled. -> https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/fede2/circuitpython-builder
Now I'm trying to integrate it with actions, but it's queuing my tasks so it won't be ready in the next 5 min...

[manic vessel]

It'll be fine ... but confusing

LOL

If you're changing the repo as well, you'll need to change the github urls inside README.rst etc

Sorry, docs/index.rst

[gusty wedge]

I'm still queued in github-actions. Maybe for the next stream 😦

 test
Started 20m 5s ago ```

[manic vessel]

Github has been slow and flaky this last week

[gusty wedge]

Less cryptocurrency folks wrecking it...

I would love if there was a way to run actions locally.

Yeah, they use it for mining.

[manic vessel]

Look for self-hosted runners. But it only runs after you've pushed to a branch.

[gusty wedge]

Nice, will look into that.

I have a nice cluster with a bunch of xeons here.. there's no reason for me to wait... (still waiting)

(Slowly replacing xeons with riscv stuff... not more x86 for me, thanks very much)

@smoky island Thanks for the stream, was very nice. I did not know about stubs weirdly enough.

I'll have to switch editors, I think mu doesn't have stubs support.

[manic vessel]

Have a great weekend everybody

[grand tusk]

Thanks!

[smoky island]

Thanks all! hope everyone has an awesome weekend!

[open girder]

Desk of Ladyada - Macropad Bringup & Calculator Py https://youtu.be/Y0RQu_qvGO0

[grand tusk]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2021/05/20/python-snakes-its-way-to-the-ti-84-plus-ce-python-graphing-calculator-by-texas-instruments-runs-circuitpython-ticalculators/

[rich wing]

Reminds me of the games we played back in the TI-82 days... Drug Wars would have been so much more interesting..

😄

[quasi portal]

Very fun live feed. This made me go to my shop to show off my (heavily worn) Ti-nspire. Honestly, this bad boy is where I learned that coding provided real-world solutions. Since then, I have enjoyed many of the adafruit products as a product design engineer specializing in rapid prototypes.

[odd fox]

LOVE that pointer Lady Ada is using. Where can I get one of those?

[open girder]

@quasi portal very cool 🙂 🧮

@odd fox oh those are tweezers

[odd fox]

ahhhh

love how precise they are.

[teal river]

Hewwo! I'm here late, 2x to catch up XD

[ebon stratus]

First time on discord. Is this the live show? Doing Digi-Key right now?

[teal river]

I wish I had a fancy color TFT graphing calculator back in school...

[open girder]

@ebon stratus yep and yep

[ebon stratus]

👍🏼oh THANK YOU

[restive owl]

pandas are also red

[tame dew]

Panda

[ebon stratus]

Panda

[teal river]

I will understand these comments in 9 minutes

[quasi portal]

Panda

[restive owl]

squid ✅

[odd fox]

Panda with a Head of Squid bleeding ink. 😉

[spiral bough]

Squid

[restive owl]

panda with squid tattoo

[odd fox]

Gotta question for Lady Ada. What are the Pros/Cons of Mosfets and Relay Modules? I have a RaspberryPi 4 with Octoprint and an Ender3 Pro. The PSU is 24v, and I'm powering the Pi via the PSU. NOT via the GPIO. Ultimately, I am trying to turn the Ender3 pro off and on via Octprint, but confused which are better suited for the Pi. Mosfet or Relay Modules?

[ebon stratus]

Bye❤️

[echo canopy]

Great show, goodnight

[quasi portal]

Ha, fun surprise live feed.

[odd fox]

Bummer. Submitted my question too late.

[teal river]

Aww, I can't catch live DX

In that case, back to 1x...

[teal river]

late: PANDA

[gusty wedge]

+1 to the cephalopod

[teal river]

I feel like a Trinkey with a cephalopod mascot should have wires coming off of it... like antennas

[sudden slate]

I vote panda 🙂

[sudden slate]

Relays 100%

[sudden slate]

[clever summit]

So no Deep Dive on Friday. You know what that means @smoky island ! 🙂

[rapid hornet]

yup, next two fridays

[clever summit]

Enjoy your time off, @rapid hornet !

[sly radish]

Makes JP's Python Parsec more necessary ;-P

[cinder wind]

like this? 😄 https://twitter.com/todbot/status/1388941185947824134

[left pier]

Tod I love that! That would be such a fun toy\costume addition

[waxen thistle]

Good afternoon all you wonderful folks!

[haughty quiver]

hola!

[woeful pond]

Good afternoon

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[cinder wind]

we are chat

[woeful pond]

chat are we

[clever summit]

👋

[opaque hearth]

link to the youtube pls?

[cinder wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EXv_XZBf7c

[opaque hearth]

thanksyoumuch!!!

[cinder wind]

Idea: Slider Trinkey as a USB keyboard. The slider selects the key to send and the captouch pad sends the key. it's the preferred way to send tweets, as it lowers the number of tweets per day you can send. You have to know what slider position selects which key, but you're a hacker, so you know, you know?

[grand tusk]

aaba baab ab

[shell mason]

slider slider

[clever summit]

Should be mandatory on Twitter, @cinder wind !

[clear matrix]

And it's in DVORAK order.

[grand tusk]

one for row, one for column

[teal river]

I can't join, on call DX

but that reminded me to order my replacement

[waxen thistle]

plays the Electric Slide

[shell mason]

djay pro is cool other DJ software

[woeful pond]

cool interface with the music program

Being tha its analog...is there anything similiar to debounce like pushbuttons

[cinder wind]

now we'll all finally learn how to spell "potentiometer"

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[waxen thistle]

Thanks JP!

[woeful pond]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[dry marten]

Thanks!

[cinder wind]

There's a nice adafruit_debouncer library JP just did a vid on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktlRv83UvjY

[grand tusk]

Thank you!

[opaque hearth]

Bye JP! thanks!

[haughty quiver]

Right on, thanks for stopping by!

[inner spade]

Thanks JP!

[woeful pond]

Thank you Sir!

[teal river]

I still need to figure out what to do with my defective one since it can't do an OLED, lol

Darn, just missed it DX

[haughty quiver]

@teal river did you get a defective product?

[shell mason]

detective John Park

[teal river]

Yeah, I had originally ordered a Slider Trinkey a couple weeks ago -- danh did troubleshooting with me, and I got an RMA, but it was out of stock at that point. But now I've ordered the replacement :D

[haughty quiver]

🕵️‍♂️

[teal river]

The slider was faulty on mine

[haughty quiver]

ah OK, got it.

[teal river]

There was a whole adventure of me learning how to build CircuitPython so I could squeeze OLED libraries into it, only to find later that the hardware couldn't do I2C... long story short XD

[haughty quiver]

ah, interesting

[teal river]

It was a good learning experience!

So now I have a Slider Trinkey with no slider XD

[haughty quiver]

You may be able to adapt @cinder wind 's QT Py rotary encoder method and bolt a fader directly to it.

[lilac tusk]

Did the Slider Trinkey slide into everyone’s Carts?

[teal river]

lol

Yeah, I should be able to attach basically anything that isn't I2C on it -- the slider just didn't change resistance when sliding [until after I dismantled and reassembled the casing of the slider, but I damaged the pads of the Trinkey and the pins on the slider, so there was no hopes of getting it back together]

[haughty quiver]

@teal river you should soon be able to desoder the ATSAMD21 off of that and sell it for a few hundred dollars.

[teal river]

That'd be nice XD

What makes my chip so special? :P

[haughty quiver]

Worldwide shortages

[lilac tusk]

Yeahhh

[teal river]

People won't seriously pay hundreds for it, right? lol

I know everything is short

[haughty quiver]

No, just joking.

[teal river]

I thought so XD

My GPUs, on the other hand... I could make a pretty penny by selling, since I got them at MSRP

[haughty quiver]

Yikes. GPU madness.

[teal river]

Yeah. I could make several thousand dollars... Or I could continue using my GPUs, lol

[haughty quiver]

Thinking of selling a couple sheets of plywood I've got and buying a Lamborghini.

[teal river]

Lol

[cinder wind]

if only Adafruit could figure out how to make 1/2" Baltic Birch Trinkey Wood GPUs, they'd be rich!

[teal river]

XD

Bajillianaires

[teal river]

I just got the back in stock notification, lol

[hard hollow]

☕️⚡️

[shadow epoch]

☕ is it Wednesday?

[split gazelle]

good morning folks

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 331 LIVE in 5 mins! Fume Extractor, Jeopardy and Mini Vise #3DPrinting
https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live @hard hollow @rocky reef

good morning / afternoon / evening and night folks!

[waxen thistle]

Good morning all you wonderful folks!

[shadow epoch]

are we betting on youtube or twitch this morning?

[upbeat coral]

Twitch

[shell mason]

both are good

[waxen thistle]

I always go with Twitch, lower latency

[shell mason]

all are good

[waxen thistle]

But I also use the FrankerFaceZ Chrome plugin for rather extensive control over the GUI of the Twitch player and chat.

And of course, adblocking software as needed.

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[waxen thistle]

Live on Twitch 🙂

Bleeps and bloops are a go!

[wise iris]

good morning

[viscid bolt]

Good morning

[urban gale]

Morning all!

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

https://www.circuitpython.org

https://jobs.adafruit.com

https://www.adafruitdaily.com
https://www.adafruit.com/newsletter

[gusty wedge]

Morning folks and bros.

[waxen thistle]

Another awesome project from Liz! 🦜

[split gazelle]

i think folks will be a fan of this one

[waxen thistle]

Making awesome DIY projects isn't just smoke and mirrors.

[rocky reef]

Latest Guides on - https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[woeful pond]

nice pattern

[waxen thistle]

We can keep making fan puns, but we'd just be going around in circles.

What a fantastic project 🙂

[woeful pond]

That's FANcy

[rocky reef]

3D Parts Library on GitHub
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

[shell mason]

very cool

voronoi cool

[woeful pond]

that is very nice feature

[waxen thistle]

I'm loving this generator, sounds like a real time saver.

[split gazelle]

yeah i can't wait to try it

[gusty wedge]

I'll surely be using this to create a grid for a vacuum tube guitar amp I'm building. I'm trying to make it plastic free, so the grid will probably be on top of a bambu panel.

[urban gale]

Noe shot first 🔫

[woeful pond]

very cool

[urban gale]

I like that the host unit responds w/ the color of the winner

[shell mason]

voronoi shot first

[woeful pond]

its loud

[shell mason]

look good

[paper moss]

Very pretty key caps! Nice!

[urban gale]

ooh alternating the wood might be a nice effect

[shadow epoch]

2 sided milling is where I was when I lost access to the cnc mill at the woodshop - Leave plenty of time for learning curve on that one!

[shell mason]

resin with wood keycap

[shadow epoch]

resin embed in wood keycap! yes.. resin fill... like stained glass.. it can be done!

[deep pelican]

Is there anyone I can talk to about an adafruit lcd display?

[waxen thistle]

@deep pelican You might find the right eyeballs over at #help-with-projects. If it's a support question, check out the forums at https://forums.adafruit.com.

[deep pelican]

Thank you

[waxen thistle]

Collecting vises is one of my few vices.

[split gazelle]

works great for small woodworking projects

i'd used it for sanding weird angles

[shell mason]

i was like is that metal

[shadow epoch]

you can 3d print vices/clamps for holding your wood in the cnc mill, then if you mill over them, you print a new one. 🙂

(hated taping wood for cnc mill)

[gusty wedge]

"she comes in colors everywhere..."

[waxen thistle]

@split gazelle One of my favorite vises is the dremel vise, with this fella for weird shaped materials:

https://www.amazon.com/Olympia-Tools-38-690-Gyrojaw-Vertical/dp/B01K48YG3Y

https://www.amazon.com/Dremel-2500-01-Rotary-Tool-Multi-Vise/dp/B000P4W3LU

[split gazelle]

oh cool! i've seen that around, good to know it works

[waxen thistle]

And it's also a standalone vise -- detaches from the clamp

And it can also hold a dremel

Only complaint is that it's mostly plastic, so it can't handle high heat or heavy use. But if you play nicely with it, it'll last a while.

[woeful pond]

That's for Version 1

[rocky reef]

Mini Vise – han3dyman
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/mini-vise

https://github.com/nmsr1196/Multi_Pass multipass remix by Stuart

https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/67610-vaccination-multipass-holder remix by level2three

https://www.thingiverse.com/make:942016 retro pyportal case
https://www.thingiverse.com/make:941956 pybadge thermal camera
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4877461 keyblade remix
https://www.thingiverse.com/make:941098 mario boo

[waxen thistle]

Thanks @hard hollow and @rocky reef for another awesome 3D Hangouts!

[viral sail]

Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow . See you all tonight.

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays

[gusty wedge]

Very cool show R-bros. Thanks a lot.

[woeful pond]

@hard hollow @rocky reef Thanks for another informative show

[gusty wedge]

I think I'll by a digital pot tonight, to make the easiest or all the guitar pedals.

[hard hollow]

yay thanks folks! cya tonight

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for your time

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[split gazelle]

great show guys!

[autumn fulcrum]

Thanks!

[gusty wedge]

I was noticing that the Adafruit DS1841 I2C Digital 10K Log Pots are out of stock.
Maybe this could be a very nice great search... specially if it can be upgraded to have more than 128 taps.

[lilac tusk]

looking forward to getting on show n tell

hopefully i can nab a spot 🙂

[mossy widget]

🤘

[split gazelle]

good evening folks

[nova totem]

Good evening everybody

[lilac tusk]

good evening 🙂

[upbeat coral]

Hey y'll

[tulip canyon]

Hello all

[fierce saffron]

Evening all

[viscid bolt]

Good evening

[fierce saffron]

Hot night in the Uk makes a change !

[viral sail]

Good evening.

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/3t4xptkvpi

[sage aspen]

Good evening everyone

[open girder]

SHOW and TELL 6/9/2021 https://youtu.be/qzifLJetolU

[gusty wedge]

needs an update 🙂

[nova totem]

all new webcams should come with an LED pixel filter

[waxen thistle]

Good afternoon all you wonderful folks!

[split gazelle]

wooo right to repair!

[waxen thistle]

I 💜 iFixIt's screwdriver bit sets. They're my daily go-to.

[rapid hornet]

hi all!

[split gazelle]

same, i love mine

[restive owl]

Either Kyle is really tall, or that ceiling is really low

[sage aspen]

🪛

[gusty wedge]

🚜 🔧

[rapid hornet]

https://states.repair.org/states/newyork/

[opaque hearth]

@restive owl he's on a standing desk

[gusty wedge]

That would be a very nice use for an asterisk pbx. Love that idea.

[autumn turret]

touch late, but made it! I see talk about iFixit and Right to Repair. Awesome!

[haughty quiver]

Re-ordering that @opaque hearth
"He's standing on a desk"

[restive owl]

Someone get Elon on the phone? Is he lurking in here?

[autumn turret]

"Every time they dismantle one"... or it dismantles itself?

[waxen thistle]

Geordi LaForge probably uses an iFixit kit on the Enterprise.

[tulip canyon]

Big Kyle

[waxen thistle]

"Which one of these bits reverses the polarity?"

[gusty wedge]

❤️ deep blue teardown.... I'm putting the pop corn in the oven right now.

[autumn turret]

Can't wait to start using WhipperSnapper!

[restive owl]

It's 9:42am
🐱

🐱
🟢

[gaunt plume]

🔜

[split gazelle]

yeah cat!

[gaunt plume]

soon.

[tulip canyon]

sudo

[waxen thistle]

"Divide by zero."

[split gazelle]

whoa @sage aspen !

[smoky island]

That is nice! 😺

[autumn turret]

Very cool @sage aspen!

[lilac tusk]

Ohhh that is very nice

[sage aspen]

Thank you 🙂

[haughty quiver]

sweet @rapid hornet !

[sage aspen]

I see a Playdate on the desk

[waxen thistle]

You can delete prints, but would you delete Prince?

[autumn turret]

Holy smokes that's come a long way! Great job @rapid hornet and @proven jay

[split gazelle]

have a good vacation @rapid hornet

[autumn turret]

I spotted the same! Someone got a pre-prod model! Actually, I think Scott has SN 001

[waxen thistle]

Enjoy your time off!

[nova totem]

Have a great vacation and great work with the BLE @rapid hornet

[rapid hornet]

now I want to fix that bug...

🙂

[autumn turret]

Enjoy nature and the Vitamin D @rapid hornet

[rapid hornet]

I think I had SN 1 of something else...

thanks all!

[fair fulcrum]

omg that is way more intricate than my home made fume extractor

[sage aspen]

I think you had SN1 of the Piunora

[autumn turret]

Great project and print, @hard hollow

[rapid hornet]

that's right!

[split gazelle]

this is an intense game

[fair fulcrum]

@hard hollow @rocky reef did you guys see this? https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4865478

[autumn turret]

Nice one @split gazelle! Next, convert bars to Midi notes? 😄

[upbeat coral]

Flashback to Submarine life and watchiing MTRE 7 readout

[inner spade]

@split gazelle is always doing cool stuff. So nice!

[nova totem]

That's nice @split gazelle. You can clearly see it working whenever you talk

[split gazelle]

ohhh that would be cool 🙂

[split gazelle]

thanks!

[split gazelle]

thanks! yeah i'm excited to maybe do a larger scale one and maybe try some different effects

[restive owl]

We going to see Nerf guns on there soon Matt?

[waxen thistle]

Very nice indeed @split gazelle, as always. Such fun and nifty things coming from your workshop 🙂

[fair fulcrum]

that is super cool =^-^=

[split gazelle]

thanks Bruce!

[nova totem]

Put it on an LED matrix, cause those are always cool (or 2 or 3 matricies)

[autumn turret]

Add in a rotary encoder to offset the note by "x" amount, and it's a bit of a vocal turntable

[mossy widget]

more on headlamps here: https://www.instagram.com/matteblackrobotics/

[nova totem]

Congrats @lilac tusk !

[split gazelle]

yay @lilac tusk !

[autumn turret]

Very cool @lilac tusk! That's fantastic!!! 🙂

[waxen thistle]

Excellent 🙂

[lilac tusk]

Hackster.io: https://www.hackster.io/news/oak-development-technologies-cp-sapling-packs-sam-d21-power-into-a-compact-form-factor-2b955c32da7c

Tindie: https://www.tindie.com/products/oakdevtech/cp-sapling-rev-b-samd21-micro-dev-board/

Main store: https://www.oakdev.tech/store/p14/CP-Sapling-RevB-Standard.html#/

Cyber City Circuits Subscription boxes: https://shop.cybercitycircuits.com/collections/subscription-boxes

[split gazelle]

so so cool Stuart!

[autumn turret]

That's an awesome v2 @woeful pond !

[smoky island]

That's an awesome new version stuart

[woeful pond]

@hugo Thank you

@smoky island thanks

[lilac tusk]

Oh that’s super cool @nova totem

[autumn turret]

Very nice progress @nova totem! Can't wait to see the next update!

[split gazelle]

awesome @nova totem

[autumn turret]

Thank you makers and sharers!

[split gazelle]

great projects everyone!

[fair fulcrum]

such awesome projects!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks everyone. Inspiring projects. Thanks for sharing

[nova totem]

This is the plastic I'm waiting on: https://www.tapplastics.com/product/plastics/plastic_sheets_rolls/led_ligh_panel/598

[gusty wedge]

This ½h just flies...

[autumn turret]

and thanks for the links @lilac tusk. Now I can subscribe to moar stuffs!

[waxen thistle]

Hats off to everyone on Show and Tell! Y'all are awesome and a bright light -- which can also be programmed for intensity and direction 🙂

[nova totem]

Thanks @lilac tusk @autumn turret @split gazelle

[opaque hearth]

great show great tell !!!

[lilac tusk]

🙂

[nova totem]

Great projects everyone

[lilac tusk]

Everything was top notch

I really liked the project @split gazelle was working on

[waxen thistle]

Digging the chill tunes

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 6/9/2021 LIVE! https://youtu.be/p3BxYaAgZVg

[split gazelle]

thanks! i'll be throwing the code up on github soon. it should work with any board with a PDM mic

[waxen thistle]

Jam packed! ....is that, raspberry jam?

[brazen quail]

Hola from 'rado ! :-D

[lilac tusk]

🙂

[gusty wedge]

El Dorado? :þ

[shell mason]

the cool keycaps like wooden keycaps like from @hard hollow and @rocky reef

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[gusty wedge]

I got my first perma-proto today. I'll use it to make a nice guitar pedal.

[brazen quail]

@gusty wedge Color-a-do

[lilac tusk]

Almost qualified for a free item when I ordered 100 jst connectors the other day

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays

[gusty wedge]

❤️ those PTCs. Fran Blanche from Frantone has been advocating using them for guitar pedals, because they won't eat ~1V from the 9V battery.

[opaque hearth]

Hat's off to Trinkey logo art and animation of charaters 🎩

[odd stream]

Yay! Debouncer 🙂

[inner spade]

Excellent debounce demo!

[dim knot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch#Contact_bounce

[split gazelle]

i was not aware of this debouncer library 😲

[odd stream]

Liz! There's even a guide.

[lilac tusk]

Ohhh

[nova totem]

I used it for the buttons for the lantern. Takes 2 minutes to set up and its so nice

[autumn turret]

There are always Deep-Dive reruns!

[waxen thistle]

@split gazelle and @nova totem https://learn.adafruit.com/debouncer-library-python-circuitpython-buttons-sensors

[autumn turret]

And @smoky island's potential FoamyDives!

[dim knot]

http://adabox.com/

[split gazelle]

well that's included in all of my projects going forward

[odd stream]

You can use it for way more than switches

[gusty wedge]

Such a fan of Collin's videos... since the Make's days.

[split gazelle]

nice!

[waxen thistle]

I need to find a low profile, split mechanical keybaord.

[open girder]

10% discount code, one hour only! code is: KEYCAPS expires 6/9/2021 @ 10pm EDT #askanengineer & @open girder http://www.adafruit.com

[autumn turret]

Love Collin's Lab ASMR Notes

[lilac tusk]

As the kids say these days, that’s a good deal. No cap

I have a Digi-Key cart full of cherry mx keys for some ideas I have

Maybe I need some key caps

I need to go back to that great search for the mounting SMD pets for Cherry MX keys

[digital crescent]

relaxing and educational

[ivory kiln]

Q: With all of the chip shortages & other world craziness going on, will there be a June - July AdaBox in the US, or are you just shooting to ship the next quarterly AdaBox in September?

[waxen thistle]

If you like vintage magazines, check out https://www.archive.org -- many have been scanned and uploaded.

[autumn turret]

lol "Baby talk language for potheads". Never heard that one!

[restive owl]

How many billions to acquire Adafruit? I'll start saving now

[haughty quiver]

Thanks for writing the debouncer, it rules!

[waxen thistle]

@restive owl Go ahead and build your own version of Adafruit. Do it your way, using the best values and approaches that Adafruit does well 🙂

[ivory kiln]

There u go, go to https://www.archive.org/ & pull up old issues of Whole Earth Catalog 😄

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/2021/06/08/python-on-microcontrollers-newsletter-new-circuitpython-releases-rp2040-singles-and-more-python-adafruit-circuitpython-micropython-thepsf/

[gusty wedge]

I'm loving using circup to load up the libraries while moving from 6 to 7 and to 6 back again.

[proven crow]

I already ordered 3 RP2040s from CanaKit for a board I'm working on because I can see the shortage on the horizon

Happy pride month!

[restive owl]

In 60 years, these newsletters will be on archive.org and fascinating to the new '90s kids

[gusty wedge]

💧

[spiral bough]

I don't think I could love Adafruit any more, such a force for good!

[autumn turret]

Words matter

[odd stream]

It started as a fairly direct port of Bounce2 from Arduino. From then it got more pythonic.

[ionic garnet]

Rock on! This stuff matters

[gusty wedge]

Let's get back to the days when guitar amps, and apple computers had schematics as a default because it's obvious that it is needed.

[autumn turret]

If anyone gets scared by OEMs saying "Your repairs are safe with official/certified/etc", just look at the news for what an authorized repair place did to an Oregon woman who shipped her phone TO Apple!

These are for the modern-day TV/electronics repair shops

[ionic garnet]

Agreed @gusty wedge . right to repair

[open girder]

@ivory kiln
Q: With all of the chip shortages & other world craziness going on, will there be a June - July AdaBox in the US, or are you just shooting to ship the next quarterly AdaBox in September?

there will be an adabox in july/sug

er, aug

we are all good 🙂

[spiral bough]

On the saying: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/origin-of-the-proof-is-in-the-pudding-meaning

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/

[ionic garnet]

on other news, I got my ItsyBitsy RP2040 in mail today, and I got a couple Pimoroni Tiny 2040 on the same day! Fun tonight

[ivory kiln]

Great thanks. 🙂 Gotta plan a head & make sure I got my money ready. 😄

[spiral bough]

TL;DR the treat is finding out.

[restive owl]

Can anyone write these learn guides?

[ionic garnet]

Your learn guides are da bom

[waxen thistle]

There's such a strong financial interest with locking down documentation and only allowing "certified" repair. Some publicly traded companies announce during their stockholder meetings that their repair division may account for 40-60% of their revenue.

Think about that -- instead of making good, innovative products, some companies have a vested interest in making things as hard to fix as possible. And depending on your industry, you might be locked into using those products -- and their repair division.

Right to repair is so important.

[autumn turret]

They're more than just the BOM, they're also instructions! 😄

[ionic garnet]

@waxen thistle there is also big money going into disinformation campaigns to confuse voters by scaring them that info threatens their security. Openness BUILDS security

[gusty wedge]

Love the parts counter... that's new for the made in ny videos I think.

[woeful pond]

we need more QT Py2040s

[waxen thistle]

Openness and communication is disruptive. Some embrace change, and some fear it.

[shell mason]

robot make other robots the thing from star wars

[gusty wedge]

@open girder Q: Can the selective soldering machine be used to bridge pcb jumpers, so that a knife is not needed to open the jumper?

[upper sandal]

is it a crane making a crane ? what madness is that ?

[autumn turret]

Love watching cranes get built or elevated

[ionic garnet]

It's downright craney

[shell mason]

@autumn turret have you seen crane build itself higher

[autumn turret]

I have! It's genius!

[upper sandal]

what ? they have become self sufficient ?

[autumn turret]

Could've watched it all day, but my break was over :/

[spiral bough]

You need a crane to get the parts up that high. People still running them.

[ionic garnet]

@upper sandal official no, not self sufficient. But the crane operators are disappearing off the face of the earth in droves

[gusty wedge]

I think cranes are way dangerous... (specially since they use unprotected wireless commands, but in general... they are to heavy)

[ionic garnet]

people have no idea the dangers of unprotected wireless devices

[autumn turret]

That's not a socket, that's a monopoly piece!

[gusty wedge]

noup.

[autumn turret]

Oh, not to scale :/

[inner spade]

Wasn't ALF from Mill-Max?

[gusty wedge]

I teach a wireless hacking class in 🇨🇷 , and yes, things are way to scary.

[waxen thistle]

Conductive Top Hats!

[autumn turret]

Oooh! Those would be awesome on the Trinkeys!

NeoKey Trinkey to be exact

[ionic garnet]

I'm in IoT security so I know things too @gusty wedge

[waxen thistle]

The s in IoT stands for security.

[restive owl]

But there isn't a...

[waxen thistle]

That's a good mindset, thinking about security when designing and implementing IoT & wireless tech. Encourage that as much as you can.

[ionic garnet]

the reason there is no s is because consumers don't demand security, therefore product management doesn't prioritize it. Someone has to champion it (says me, the former Chief Privacy/Security Officer of Jibo)

Yes Security by design.

Part of the SDLC

[autumn turret]

No security, and no fallback if the manufacturer/service provider shuts down

[waxen thistle]

I've lost count on the IoT paperweights I've heard about.

[gusty wedge]

Wow, so this socket was designed for future compatibility? It's amazing that it's "transparent"

[ionic garnet]

Right. People get locked out do to GOOD security sometimes (secure boot with no one to sign OS anymore)

[nova totem]

Next project, I need to make an IoT paperweight

[autumn turret]

So that doesn't count those that are too light to be used as paperweights?

Q: Could the Mill-Max 3305s be added to a NeoKey as "aftermarket" part?

[dim knot]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/mill-max-manufacturing-corp/3305-1-15-15-47-27-10-0/13901953

[gusty wedge]

❤️ NPI as always. There hasn't been one that I'm like "yeah, I know what that is.. not need to pay attention" 🙂

They look like antenna connectors on the bottom :þ

[autumn turret]

And that answers my question!

[waxen thistle]

NPI is such a gem. I've been introduced to awesome products and tools that have made my life easier 🙂

[autumn turret]

Could they be used with rotary encoders, like the Neokey Trinkey?

[lilac tusk]

I love NPI, even in a part shortage it still provides immense value

[woeful pond]

very useful and interesting connector

[spiral bough]

@open girder That would maybe be something worth stocking?

[gusty wedge]

Product failure, is an option 🙂

[odd stream]

Space shuttle shots are kind of dated 😦

[cinder wind]

wait, that's not Collin's dulcet voice

[viral sail]

Jot your CircuitPython Parsecs on the spacetime pad.

[gusty wedge]

We need @sage aspen's project to "sing a new-new-new song" 🙂

[dim knot]

Gridded Sticky Notepad - 80 Sheets - 3" / 75mm Square https://www.adafruit.com/product/4966

[gusty wedge]

I like dots in my notepads, but that grid seems very pleasing.

[dim knot]

Silicone RJ-45 Dust Cover Inserts - 10 Pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/4995

[gusty wedge]

Specially if you dad doesn't let you use graphical calculators... 🙂

[split gazelle]

sticky notes are the best

[dim knot]

Assembled Music Maker FeatherWing w/ Stereo 3W Amplifier - MP3 OGG WAV MIDI Synth Player

[waxen thistle]

Some folks use sticky notes to make pixel art displays. With a graph paper grid sticky note, you can make pixel art on your sticky note!

[dim knot]

Adafruit 1.54" Monochrome eInk / ePaper Display with SRAM - 200x200 with SSD1681 https://www.adafruit.com/product/4196

[sudden slate]

I'm waaaay late - I was at the pool 🏊‍♂️

😦

[dim knot]

Adafruit 2.13" Monochrome eInk / ePaper Display with SRAM - 250x122 Monochrome with SSD1680 https://www.adafruit.com/product/4197

[proven crow]

You didn't miss the featured product though! 🙂

[dim knot]

See all the key caps here: https://www.adafruit.com/category/357

DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches in Various Colors https://www.adafruit.com/product/5097

Clear DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5013

Translucent Smoke DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5008

Dark Gray DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5012

Purple DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5003

Translucent Red DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5007

Light Blue DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5006

Blue DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5005

Light Purple DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5101

Dark Blue DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5016

Neon Green DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5015

Black DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/4997

White DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/4998

Light Gray DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/4999

Pink DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5002

Lavender DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5004

Dark Yellow DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5009

Orange DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5010

Red DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5011

Translucent Blue DSA Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5014

[proven crow]

Woah there!

[waxen thistle]

More color choices than the 2021 iMac!

[split gazelle]

i love these colors

[autumn turret]

Number of colours to rival Party Parrot! 🦜

HOLOGRAMS!!!!

[urban gale]

ooh. pride keyboard

[dim knot]

CircuitPython Space Explorers Sticker https://www.adafruit.com/product/5092

[gusty wedge]

And remember, you can build a TinyGS station to listen to sats with very cheap hardware.

[autumn turret]

Adafruit helps bring us further into the 21st century!

[dim knot]

Adafruit Trinkey QT2040 - RP2040 USB Key with Stemma QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/5056

[gusty wedge]

Oh, that stacking looks amazing.

[nova totem]

It's crazy the amount of power on the tiny size trinky

[ionic garnet]

I have no idea why I need one but I ordered it anyway!

[autumn turret]

Remembered your code @ionic garnet ?

[ionic garnet]

Yup

[autumn turret]

That's such an insane amount of possibilities for 7.50$

🤯

[ionic garnet]

True that

[waxen thistle]

Stargate of keycaps

[gusty wedge]

That's for the people who complain that adafuit makes it too easy... now they can complain also that it's too cheap 🙂 :þ

[nova totem]

Q: why do some boards use dotstars and other use neopixels?

[proven crow]

Q: What kind of clearance do you need between cap touch pads on a PCB?

[ionic garnet]

Q: I know circuitpython doesn't handle irqs (those are handled in C code). Can it be done in the inline assembler? I am looking to solve some limitations of LoRa lib vs C++ version

[gusty wedge]

I'll be moving to a new house in the next weeks/month. I'm sooooo afraid that the SMD boxes will open mid transit making all tiny things un-recognizable 🙂

[proven crow]

Good luck!

[autumn turret]

Duct tape!

[ionic garnet]

@gusty wedge when ppl complain about too easy, they are ignoring the simple fact that easy is good. It leads to curiosity, innovation, and lifelong interests

[autumn turret]

Usually, the folks who say "you make it too easy" are doing so more as gatekeeping

[gusty wedge]

I love that it's too easy... I'll be teaching some park rangers from Isla del Coco in October, to program with hardware and

This would not be possible like that just a few years ago.

[ionic garnet]

I am bringing this stuff to kids to get them to fall in love with STEM

[upper sandal]

easy leads to doing stuff without giving up

[nova totem]

I'm pretty sure it cannot be done right now. With the caveat in CP 7 and the update from micropython there was some support for native code (but I'm not sure if its even working yet).

[proven crow]

What a great way to waste an RP2040 - In a keycap!

[autumn turret]

That's awesome of you to be teaching others! 🎉

[gusty wedge]

I (thanfully) blame @rapid hornet for getting us all into fast work flows...

[ionic garnet]

that's the conclusion I came to for CP 6

[cinder wind]

those slim key switches look awesome

[gusty wedge]

I've very exited because park ranges are basically nature's police. They don't have any type of training on computers. I've already done some labs, and they just love understanding and hacking hw.

[upper sandal]

I don't think the inline assembler is on in Circuitpython

[spiral bough]

Ooh I want an Adafruit keycap! A Circuit Python one too!

[gusty wedge]

I hear several times "Is that it? wow, that was easy" and you see them playing with neopixels strips.

[brazen quail]

Are any of the keys laser safe ?

[gusty wedge]

squid

[viral sail]

🦑

[ionic garnet]

@autumn turret it could be done with a native C object linked in. Sometimes the work I do requires hardcore stuff. It's almost as if I go searching for hard stuff to do for fun

[spiral bough]

squid

[waxen thistle]

🦑 or 🐼

[proven crow]

Squid

[split gazelle]

squid!

[cinder wind]

Squid

[autumn turret]

is the new "Any" key!

[split gazelle]

🦑 🦑 🦑

[autumn turret]

Panda friend

[opaque hearth]

suidz pls!

[echo canopy]

Question for the show —- how difficult would it be to make a Trinkey that has a Apple lightning connector ? I know there is a MFi program … just curious if it’s feasible .. and I’d rather give the extra money to Adafruit than to Apple for a USB conversion cable

[digital crescent]

squid

[proven crow]

But I do feel bad for the panda...

[ionic garnet]

Yesterday I was panda, so today squid

[gusty wedge]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Chromatophores.jpg

[urban gale]

I can't choose

[delicate fractal]

question: any ideas where to learn about designing and manufacturing MEMS?

[digital crescent]

only because lady ada said vote for panda

[ivory kiln]

Q: how was the Adafruit logo put on the translucent key? Are they sold as bland & we can etch them ourselves or are the pre-etched?

[split gazelle]

to be fair i did just watch watchmen...

[dim knot]

http://adabox.com/

[ashen dove]

squid!

[gusty wedge]

Pandas don't have chromatophores... Squids will work for then e-inks have more than 3 colors/.

[inner spade]

squanda

[autumn turret]

What about red pandas, @gusty wedge ?

[gusty wedge]

again, it's only 3 colors.

[autumn turret]

But eink displays, for now, are only up to 3 colours (in my price range anyway)

[fierce saffron]

For us international peeps on my next visit to NYC do you have factory tour ?

[gusty wedge]

the squid will be future proof, for when they get cheaper.

[upper sandal]

new einks mean new mascots, no need to future proof 😉

[proven crow]

they don't sadly

[autumn turret]

Good point @upper sandal

[upper sandal]

(more mascots is more better)

[gusty wedge]

And BTW, my dog's name is Panda, and it has more than two colors. (it has one eye, like David Bowie)

[ionic garnet]

I came across some code browsing a library source where there was a function that took inline assembler as a string and executed. Or I may have been hallucinating

[upper sandal]

your dog is named panda, I know a rabbit named wolf, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria !

[upper sandal]

you might be thinking of PIO on rp2040

[ivory kiln]

Q: O' did you guys decide on using the panda or the other character for that one thing?

[gusty wedge]

Maybe for the rp2040?

[ionic garnet]

yes. I should have stated. I'm all about RP2040 for now

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. Don't forget to safely view the eclipse. 🌞 🌚 🌎

[gusty wedge]

@open girder Thanks for answering the questions, specially for NPI which I love, and for all the good work

[dim knot]

See all the key caps here: https://www.adafruit.com/category/357

[gilded crescent]

squid has more "fingers", makes more sense

[restive owl]

Thanks @open girder

[ionic garnet]

Thanks @open girder Great show. Fun crowd on Discord

[waxen thistle]

@open girder Thanks for another awesome evening of shows!

[split gazelle]

thanks for a great evening of shows! also 🦑

[ivory kiln]

Great shows guys. 😄 ❤️

[woeful pond]

Thank you @open girder and staff

[dim knot]

Night all!

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[ionic garnet]

Respect diversity

[urban gale]

thx Arafruit and community!

[autumn turret]

Thanks adafruit and adafriends! Be excellent to each other!

[ionic garnet]

Kindness is cool. Unkindness sucks

[dawn urchin]

panda. :)

[ionic garnet]

Can someone remind me where the source of all the little changes to language and software practices to be more inclusive is? I am CTO of a outsourcing company. We develop software for clients worldwide. I want to start coaching engineers about this topic. Our clients may not care or even want changes, but like @open girder said, it starts with a drop

[rapid hornet]

this is a good reference: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/easily-rename-your-git-default-branch-from-master-to-main

[ionic garnet]

Are there deeper issues than renaming master to main?

[ivory kiln]

Hmm, wonder if - in honor of Mosfet, if Phil & Limor could have a file of various Adafruit customer cat pics that a random cat pic from that file would show & then they could do "A moment of Zener & CUTE Kitty" at the end of ever show?

[rapid hornet]

it started with renaming the use of slave

[ionic garnet]

makes sense

[rapid hornet]

black and white list have been renamed too

(see the ietf link from that blog post)

[delicate fractal]

Not particularly, but there might be CICD and such defaults that make switching difficult.

[ionic garnet]

I love it. It will p!ss off exactly the right people (the ones who need to respect diversity)

[rapid hornet]

believe me, it does

so don your flameproof suit

[waxen thistle]

A worthwhile battle.

[ionic garnet]

I take delight in that. After nearly 40 years in this business, I'm pretty flame resistant.

[rapid hornet]

👍

[autumn turret]

I'd like to know, or understand, why some are so resistant

[ionic garnet]

because they fear change. They think they deserve entitlement and feel equity is a threat to entitlement. It is indeed, as it should be.

[autumn turret]

If they fear change, why learn new programming languages? Or operating systems?

[ionic garnet]

^^ broader issue than just the name change

[ionic garnet]

Different kind of change. They fear social change. The core issue here is respect and ending racist ways of the past. This is the trigger issue.

It's a complex human problem

[autumn turret]

humans are complex. emotions logarithmically so

[ivory kiln]

Thing is, is it's really not all that complex - it's just people make it seam so complex

[ionic garnet]

Yuppers

[ionic garnet]

yeah I buy that. Simple issues. Complex people!

[waxen thistle]

Be kind to yourselves, be kind to each other. Recognize that valuing others doesn't mean that you lose value yourself. There's enough value to go around that we all can have it. We all should have it.

[ionic garnet]

Right on

[sudden slate]

👍

[ionic garnet]

I think self respect is a core issue at the heart of the "divide". In my observation the people who are most bothered by other people's life choices or race/religion/... are the ones with the least actual self respect. So we have to somehow help them too to really overcome some really damaging and challenging aspects of human society

[ivory kiln]

Very true & well put.

[ionic garnet]

signing off to go play with my new toys. Really appreciate that you folks here care about each other and strangers too. It's almost miraculous to come across a group with that as a default behavior. The pic is today's mail

[autumn turret]

Have fun, and don't stay up too late playing with your new toys! 😄

And we appreciate having someone else who cares for others 🙂

[woeful pond]

@ionic garnet Where did you get the tiny 2040?

[ionic garnet]

Pimoroni in UK by royal mail took about 8 days

I order from them from time to time

[woeful pond]

Ahhh. ok Thank you.

[sudden slate]

WooHoo!

[gusty wedge]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/3/3c/Fish_Melanophores_Responding_to_Adrenaline.webm/Fish_Melanophores_Responding_to_Adrenaline.webm.480p.vp9.webm

[gusty wedge]

Love the idea of a pico midi keyboard.

Hello friends and s.

[waxen thistle]

Good afternoon all you wonderful folks!

[gusty wedge]

I'm not a wondeful folk, but I'll say good afternoon back at you 🙂 :þ

[split gazelle]

greetings and salutations

rare that i can catch john's show live, much excite

[waxen thistle]

It's really Lars' show, but Lars is a generous and benevolent creature and permits JP to host it.

[inner spade]

Yes. Lars. Is. Very. Lovable.

[haughty quiver]

hello!

[waxen thistle]

Live on Twitch!

Bleeps and bloops are a go!

[split gazelle]

lars the cat

[haughty quiver]

"Show me a Lars"

[inner spade]

YT is bleepin' and bloopin' now

[gusty wedge]

Music to my ears.

[grand tusk]

Hello

[inner spade]

mic audio is perfect! peaking at about -5dB

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adabox.com

JPPPotW

[clever summit]

👋

[cinder wind]

Note: adabox.com is different than dadabox.com.

[waxen thistle]

https://jobs.adafruit.com

[gusty wedge]

Nice, did not know about increasing restrictions during the show.

[split gazelle]

apparently my cats don't like the parsec music

map range is the best

[inner spade]

map range is great for reversing the output range, too!

[grand tusk]

wow that was cool

[inner spade]

map range used to be in simpleio

still is -- it's there as well as in simplemath

[waxen thistle]

That parsec music disagrees with me too -- the last note or so where it statics out (sorry, not an audio engineer) is rather.....unpleasant. So I totally fathom the frustration your feline friends feel.

[inner spade]

"wrong notes" = jazz

my jazz piano teacher, "You're never more than a half-step away from a good note."

[waxen thistle]

"randomly hitting letters on a computer keyboard" = naming a "gaming" monitor ⌨️

So by that association, jazz players are those who name gaming monitors 😛

[gusty wedge]

installs helm

[shell mason]

helms deep

[oblique jay]

Which organ? I hope it’s the appendix! 🤣

[grand tusk]

hard lead (oof)

[split gazelle]

nice sounds

[grand tusk]

JP's music box.

[gusty wedge]

I've been playing music on a off for ~25years, and I just can't get scales in my head. This might be very nice way of learning them, finally.

(I have terrible memory.. I think...)

[waxen thistle]

Sounded excellent!

[grand tusk]

Give briny turbo a try: https://github.com/rsbohn/briny-turbot/blob/main/src/remidi.py -- Give it a root note and it will give you a major or minor scale.

[shell mason]

i somehow remembered that solenoid player what @split gazelle have build from that JP keypad

[gusty wedge]

Reminds me of playing the "pedals" on a organ, or like the bass John Paul Jones used to play on a the songs he played keyboard.

[split gazelle]

it can definitely turn into a rabbit hole 😺

yeah i've been hoping to do some stuff with her libraries at some point. great stuff

sometimes not sending noteoff can have undesirable effects 😅 especially with more robotic applications

[grand tusk]

Hope you have a nice break.

[sly radish]

Thanks John! Enjoy your time off!

[waxen thistle]

Indeed, enjoy your time off @haughty quiver! 🏖️

[split gazelle]

yes have a fantastic break!

[shell mason]

Park in vaca making tunes

[cinder wind]

so wait, John, you're not live streaming from the plane?

[gusty wedge]

yuck, planes. (lots of CO2)

Thanks for the stream, very cool topic. I'll probably build me one to learn scales...

[haughty quiver]

Thank very much all!

[inner spade]

Thanks @haughty quiver ! Enjoy your vacation!

[smoky island]

@waxen thistle it's looking like things will be fairly quiet on the work front. I will stream tonight at starting at 5pm central (1 Hour later than normal deep dive start time). I'll plan on pinging the deep divers role closer to start time in case they are looking for something to watch / hangout.

[brazen grove]

@smoky island where do you stream?

[smoky island]

Twitch and youtube. I put links in here when I start.

[brazen grove]

ah, thanks

[smoky island]

Thunderstorm here has knocked out power 😩 . 🤞 hoping it comes back shortly. But wont be able to stream tonight if not

[brazen grove]

good luck

[waxen thistle]

I have a small gerbil wheel, a few feet of metal wire, and some magnets.

I'm sure we can MacGyver a solution....

[lilac tusk]

Put thermodynamics and Gaussian laws to good work

[gusty wedge]

While we wait 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rwHkWDBnlA

[smoky island]

has just returned. Should be on at normal time tomorrow morning. Hopefully mother nature is more relaxed next friday

[smoky island]

I'm about to get going with the stream this morning. Working on some CircuitPython libraries. Hang out here in the chat, on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cagT3MuzXs or twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[clever summit]

Morning @smoky island

I am in a happy mode. Finally finished the 6 month project yesterday - (re)-organizing and cleaning up the lab.

So now I can start tackling NEW projects! 🙂

[grand tusk]

Hello. I'm building a slider widget for displayio_layout.

cool

[modern night]

o/ Morning all!

[manic vessel]

# assume bytes_io is a `BytesIO` object
byte_str = bytes_io.read()

# Convert to a "unicode" object
text_obj = byte_str.decode('UTF-8')

Afternoon all

[modern night]

What is calling with open(filename, 'rb'...

with is safer for random errors as a general principle though isn't it?

[manic vessel]

if (conditionA):
    file = open(...)
else:
    file = get_it_another_way

with file:
    do the file manipulation code
    it will auto-close at the end or on error

[modern night]

What about putting with indented stuff into a function call, and

    with open(filename, 'rb') as file:
        head_process_function(file)
else:
    #byteio
    head_process_function(filename)

[manic vessel]

it should still close or __deinit__ whatever is on the with line

[grand tusk]

I think when it says "type of bitmap" it means you pass in a bitmap class.

[manic vessel]

RLE => Run length encoding, a type of very simple compression

[modern night]

woo! Nice!

[grand tusk]

deep dive with foamyguy!

[modern night]

would pyb_file_obj_t be incompatible with a bytesio object?

[clever summit]

Oh. Live Discording.

[modern night]

What if ignoring c, we look at how the data is ordered for the open(filename, 'rb') vs the bytesio object?

I mean, I missed the beginning so I could be thinking of it wrong, but maybe we don't need to mess with the c layer at all and can just have a 'prep' function for bytesio that makes it look like an opened file for the rest of the code workflow?

Ah Ok, thanks for walking back through all of that

Oh yeah, translate will compress your error string

Woo! Something Happened!

[manic vessel]

Have to nip out for a while, hopefully back before the end, if not have a great weekend everyone.

[modern night]

Isn't that leading ! just for the mp.obj...[argfile].u_obj variable and that alone

Nope looks like I read it wrong

[modern night]

ah the necessary git workflow hiccups. Never fun, but always present

[gusty wedge]

Hi all.

[grand tusk]

Appease the god of thunder.

[gusty wedge]

"Time is an illusion. Lunch time, doubly so."

Will download the video and watch it this afternoon.

[modern night]

Have a good one!

[clever summit]

Bye and thanks!

[grand tusk]

Thanks, Tim!

[smoky island]

Thanks all! hope everyone has an awesome weekend!

[modern night]

And glad you're power's back, that storm rolled through my area and knocked it out for a lot of folks as well

[smoky island]

Yep, the outtage map was looking very busy last night around me.

[autumn turret]

Out of curiosity, what do you use for download? Want to do this too, for when Wifi isn't available to avoid chewing through mobile bandwidth, or watching ultra-low res version (or both)

[gusty wedge]

youtube-dl. I watch very little videos live... mostly adafruit's.
This tool has a way to limit the bandwith, and I also love to reduce the resolution. (very little videos need 4k...)

[waxen thistle]

+1 for youtube-dl. It is an excellent tool. For Twitch-only streams, there's an open-source project called "TwitchLeecher". Not as flexible or as configurable as youtube-dl, but it's pretty decent given the lack of other options.

[proven crow]

Good evening everyone!

[open girder]

Desk of Ladyada - The Desk of Ladyada - STEMMA seesaw in Arduino with megaTinyCore https://youtu.be/6mPpvNe6F1Q

[lilac tusk]

i love DoLA

[nova totem]

Hi everybody, this is a nice break from staring at SPI logic traces

[lilac tusk]

🙂

how are you Mark?

[nova totem]

Good, got a new logic analyzer so using it for good (or trying to) you?

[lilac tusk]

pretty good, got back into VLSI stuff this weekend

pretty excited about that

[autumn turret]

Woman owned AND open source!