live-broadcast-chat

[teal river]

Bio-neural gel packs?

[gusty wedge]

Done that. https://github.com/fede2cr/micros_en_papel
(An arduino uno, at least)

Correct.

[rich wing]

Voyager coming up on Heroes & Icons in just 10 minutes... 😄

[tame dew]

Johnny Mnemonic

[gusty wedge]

@open girder Would it be possible to create a library to make this LED drivers chip compatible with the neopixel libraries?

[teal river]

Keyboards are very weird

[gusty wedge]

Thanks.

[teal river]

Night night!

[gusty wedge]

Thanks for the show today, very useful as always.

[tame dew]

Thank you Limor and PT

[echo canopy]

GN!

[teal river]

I thought Scott was off this week

[tame dew]

Back to bbq. Time for sauce

[teal river]

And next week

[tame dew]

Ribs already falling apart and the little bit that came away is tasty. Yay

[tame dew]

Now we just need “synthetic” neurons

[teal river]

and that's how we accidentally make synthetic humans

[tame dew]

The true beginnings of SkyNet.

And Nexus 6

[empty swallow]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays

[teal river]

preps cart

[waxen thistle]

Lars appreciates your preparedness 😛

[empty swallow]

Oh I've had a cart prepared for days

[waxen thistle]

Lars admires your dedication, and hopes the discount today meets with your approval. 😛

[empty swallow]

I'm very curious to see what will be discounted today

[grand tusk]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5067 -- let's see what JP does with that. 😛

[teal river]

Shhh, gotta keep it sneaky :P

[clever summit]

👋

[inner spade]

👋

[empty swallow]

hi hi

[haughty quiver]

👋

🌊

[inner spade]

Hearin' the disco beats on YT!

[waxen thistle]

Good afternoon all you folks!

[teal river]

Hewwo!

[shell mason]

Hello Park John

[empty swallow]

I'm like $2 from getting a perma-proto

[inner spade]

mic audio is in sync and peaking at -6dB. Excellent!

[empty swallow]

hiiiiiiiiiiii

[teal river]

My cart is actually empty aside from the goody XD

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-baby-yoda-mandolorian-hello-gif-20136589

[waxen thistle]

General Kenobi. [couldn't resist]

[teal river]

DOES NOT COME WITH SWITCHES! BUY SWITCHES

[fallen drum]

NO

[empty swallow]

I have a glass dish full of switches

[teal river]

lol

No sound!

oh there's sound

[waxen thistle]

Time to switch it up with a keyboard project!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/aang-aangkey-keycaps-keycap-rgb-gif-19972719

[teal river]

Sockets good

[waxen thistle]

Is that button just over 9,000?

[teal river]

Wrong franchise :P

[waxen thistle]

lol, I thought so.

[teal river]

I ordered 3x as much stuff just because the shipping was as much as the 2 wings themselves XD

[empty swallow]

yikes

apparently, i ended up spending twice as much as I wanted to

[teal river]

Now my shipping is only ~20% of the shipping instead of 50%, lol

[cinder wind]

If you double-stick tape it to your forehead, you can trigger MIDI notes when you headdesk

[teal river]

BONGOCAT

[waxen thistle]

That is SO CUTE

I love it. I have no words other than 💜

[teal river]

Bongo Cat is best

I can't think of a better use of this technology!

[empty swallow]

the order was originally $100 USD just about, but it ended up being about $200AUD

[teal river]

oof

I spent like $16 USD because I got moar keys

and fancy caps

[empty swallow]

why is international shipping so expensive 😭

[teal river]

Because there's a 40% chance of death for couriers going down under, gotta have good hazard pay

[clever summit]

It's dangerous to deliver to the underside of a flat earth?

[teal river]

There's a lot of danger noodles and scary teddy bears that will kill you

I'm working on a pad to use my favorite video editing software

[waxen thistle]

Not to be confused with Kale switches. Those might be leeked soon....

[teal river]

I like the Kailh Whites too. Kinda close to Cherry MX Blue -- noticeable feel difference, but familiar feel

That's the Feather I was gonna get XD

I am Featherless, lol

Milk!

[waxen thistle]

Don't cry over spilled milk. Unless it's on your Milk 2% keyboard.

[teal river]

lol

Secure the keys... Or don't push sideways XD

[waxen thistle]

Thanks JP!

[teal river]

Feather full keyboard wing when?

[rotund marsh]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4979 this product? where 2 keys can be the same color, or different. it doesn't matter, they're still keys. Great symbolic choice to start June.

[teal river]

That's the one!

bai JP! Seeya!

[waxen thistle]

🕺

[haughty quiver]

boogey

[teal river]

RIP pegboard space

[haughty quiver]

time to get some more pegs!

[teal river]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cute-cat-cat-dance-dance-danse-gif-17603476

[haughty quiver]

[teal river]

Every time you post , I have to wonder if you're using a NeoKey Trinkey or doing it the "old fashioned" way...

[haughty quiver]

LOL there are secrets even I must keep.

[clear matrix]

Lars is watching.

[teal river]

shudders

[waxen thistle]

rejoices

[teal river]

Lars is big spoop

[sudden slate]

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 330 LIVE in 20 mins! Trinkeys, Fans and Giant Switches #3DPrinting
https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live @hard hollow @rocky reef

[waxen thistle]

Good morning all you wonderful makers!

Bleeps and bloops are a go!

[hard hollow]

☕️⚡️

[viral sail]

Good morning.

[rocky reef]

good morning / afternoon / evening and night!

[urban gale]

Hi all

[opaque hearth]

g'mornin! 🌞

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[gusty wedge]

Buenos días

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[viscid bolt]

good morning

[rocky reef]

Adafruit is open, safely ... and shipping orders at this time within 1 to 2 business days https://www.adafruit.com/opensafely

[waxen thistle]

https://www.circuitpython.org

https://jobs.adafruit.com

[gusty wedge]

Yey, I have my first free thingy moving in the mail right now. A nice perma proto.

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruitdaily.com

https://www.adafruit.com/newsletter

Golden Goose, Rubber Ducky, Dancing Parrot -- it's really for the birds 🦜 🦆

[gusty wedge]

Yeah, I did that rubber ducky (with a Playground classic) trick to set up a +40 computers lab. One touch pad wrote the weird password they had, and another pad wrote the commands for installing the stuff that I needed. Can't recommend that enough 🙂

Love those shells, btw.

[rocky reef]

3D Parts Library on GitHub
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

NeoKey FeatherWing
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4979

[waxen thistle]

This project from @split gazelle isn't smoke and mirrors! 🪞

[gusty wedge]

LOL. what a nice idea.

I was thinking something way more complex using straws to create a laminar flow.

[urban gale]

I was gonna ask about the funnel

[shell mason]

look cool

[shadow epoch]

☕ morning! Love the prototype

[shell mason]

morning susan

[waxen thistle]

The solution to most engineering issues on the USS Enterprise.

"What is reversing the shield polarity?"

[gusty wedge]

Would be nice and weird to pass the fumes, trough a mini infinite mirror 🙂 :þ

wow, that golden cylinder is 3d printed. Fooled me for a bit.

[shell mason]

the new Thermaltake Tower 100 with gold and fitting are gold so golden cylinders even in 3d printed could be nice to mod for it

is that real wood or 3d printed?

getting there

[gusty wedge]

(i'd say, wallnut)

Yeah, cherry when sawed against the grain, it creates a rougher texture with what could look like holes, because it tears up a bit.
Wallnut has a way tighter grain, which is why it's used for some musical stuff.

[proven crow]

Hi all! Just got here

[gusty wedge]

I also have a very large book with wood and microscope grain patterns 🙂

[waxen thistle]

@hard hollow @rocky reef Lost audio

[shadow epoch]

tear out, bane of woodworking

[waxen thistle]

Audio is back now

And it's gone again.

Ping, pong. Yo-yo.

[gusty wedge]

It wasn't me :þ

[waxen thistle]

Back again! 🎙️

[shell mason]

not me either

[gusty wedge]

BTW, Fran Blance uses carpet tape to stick things to the CNC. Might be useful.

She has a weird hand CNC that is so cool.

[proven crow]

Ooh, wooden keycaps! 🤤

I love how the grain looks on those

[shell mason]

oh yeah look great

with the grain

[dire bane]

does 3d printed wood feel like real wood?

[shadow epoch]

use butcher block conditioner! shellac has a feel

[shell mason]

some could mod the raspberry pi 400 keyboard to wooden one

[proven crow]

Doubtful that it's exactly like it, because of the layers(I haven't used it though)

And you won't get the grain

[shell mason]

you could make grains to 3d printable wood filament print when flux with temp

[waxen thistle]

A mixture of mineral oil and beeswax is used for cutting boards.

[shadow epoch]

Yes food grade cutting board/block conditioner.

[shell mason]

bruce: similar stuff is also used for wooden tables and chairs too

[shadow epoch]

yep yep, you are making me want to do woodworking today

[gusty wedge]

You can use something called "lemon oil" or "orange oil" (which isn't neither), but it is very available in music stores (used to condition guitar fretboards) or even in hardware store as a furniture cleaning.

[waxen thistle]

Today is a good day to do woodworking! [/Klingon in a workshop]

[gusty wedge]

That will soak up on the wood an not leave it funny touchy feeling.

[wise iris]

we've used tung oil (careful about nut allergies though) and turtle wax on guitars

[proven crow]

That's a nice print!

[waxen thistle]

Need a giant keycap for that case!

[shell mason]

Asus ROG have interesting switch design https://rog.asus.com/microsite/ROG-Keyboard-Switch/ as container it could be nice like that big switch

that kingdom key look awesome

[rocky reef]

https://www.thingiverse.com/make:939689 kingdom hearts keyblade

[waxen thistle]

mentally plays the angry drums of the Halo theme 🎵

[rocky reef]

https://www.thingiverse.com/make:939748 halo energy sword

[shell mason]

also a giant lego piece

[rocky reef]

https://www.thingiverse.com/make:939202 16x6 matrix pixel display

https://twitter.com/gavin02639495/status/1399921426627432453?s=21 mutlipass with adafruit QTPy

Gavin (@Gavin02639495)

@ecken @johnedgarpark I hope it's not crowded this time of year at Fhloston Paradise. https://t.co/U3VuJuzhBh

Twitter · Jun 2, 2021, 2:50 AM

[shell mason]

that multipass was cool

[shadow epoch]

oh nice

[shell mason]

not showing on stream

as it was full screen

[urban gale]

we're not seeing your screen

[waxen thistle]

Looks good to me...

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays

[shell mason]

bruce it was when that multipass thing

[viral sail]

Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow . See you all tonight.

[shell mason]

twitter full screen might have failed but on mini it showed to us

[waxen thistle]

Thanks @hard hollow and @rocky reef for another awesome show!

[rocky reef]

thanks for hanging out folks!

[shadow epoch]

Thank you for great show

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for your time

[shell mason]

small issues but great show

[gusty wedge]

Thanks a lot hermanos.

[opaque hearth]

see ya! thanksmuch!

[urban gale]

Thanks all!

[hard hollow]

thanks folks cya tonight

[gusty wedge]

BTW, this is the weird "hand" CNC that Fran from Franlab/Frantone has.
https://www.shapertools.com/en-us/origin/overview

[waxen bough]

Late to the party, but loved the look of the wooden keys! You can recover all the "fails" by milling out all the failed pins, and perhaps printing a plastic insert you can glue to the inside of the wooden keycap, which has the pins that grab the key mechanism.

[loud verge]

So where would one find the toebeans code or other example/demo code from Mr. Park’s show?

[gusty wedge]

@loud verge The last product of the week? The neokey featherwing?

[pearl shoal]

Looking forward to #show-and-tell

[gray hinge]

Ive never used Streamyard, will a link be posted here to join?

[waxen thistle]

@gray hinge Yes it will, in a few minutes.

https://learn.adafruit.com/show-and-tell/joining-show-and-tell

This is a How-To guide, to help prepare you when the link itself is dropped.

[gray hinge]

yeah I have that page up

[lofty mist]

Hi everyone!

[clear matrix]

Hey Shawn!

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful folks! I'm so glad you're able to be here!

[nova totem]

Hello everybody!

[gaunt plume]

hello

[hollow barn]

hi

[woeful pond]

hello

[autumn turret]

G'day (night/evening) all y'all!

[tulip canyon]

Howdy

[sudden slate]

Hiya 🙂

[inner spade]

Hello!

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[upbeat coral]

Hey y'll

[autumn turret]

/AreWeThereYet

[viscid bolt]

Good Afternoon

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/be297t6fui

WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/2qpDJT3MDR0

[haughty quiver]

Hi everybody!

[gaunt plume]

hi jp

[autumn turret]

Good afternoon JP!

[haughty quiver]

Hi Brent

[waxen thistle]

Also, hi Lars!

🎉 🎉

[gaunt plume]

i ❤️ octoprint

[grizzled wadi]

👀

[waxen thistle]

Noe and Pedro are such an amazing duo -- such a wealth of knowledge and kindness to help people learn. Here's to them 👍

[autumn turret]

🐙 🖨️

Sounds like a good FunHouse project!

[sudden slate]

Contrary to most, I like Lars very much 🦥

[autumn turret]

http://fiber-deserts.net/

[sudden slate]

Cool

[lofty mist]

Cool project, @rapid hornet !

[autumn turret]

That's looking really nice @rapid hornet! Love that NY visualization

[waxen thistle]

Very cool Scott!

[upbeat coral]

Been on Fiber for about four years and I would hate to go back to anything else.

[sudden slate]

I love it @rapid hornet

[tulip canyon]

Love Datasette. SQLlite is so handy

[waxen thistle]

Scott is the personification of "Community + Code".

[upbeat coral]

200 down and 200 up

[sudden slate]

My engineering heroes: Everyone at Adafruit & Tony Stark

[autumn turret]

DSL! Oooh, somebody spent some 💸 on spendy copper

[teal river]

Hewwo! What no I wasn't distracted by 3080 Ti reviews >~>

[sudden slate]

OK @rapid hornet . Hope you have a good vacation 🏝️

[teal river]

Scott is also the embodiment of awesome

[shell mason]

i was distracted from custom liquid cooling

[lofty mist]

Those keycaps look so satisfying 😄

[sudden slate]

Scott is a real life magician

[shell mason]

those wood keycaps

[rapid hornet]

datasette: https://datasette.io/

[teal river]

I'm building my new workstation, but I can watch and build XD just can't watch two things at once

[tulip canyon]

Wow nice resolution on those wood caps

[autumn turret]

Those keycaps! Woah! 😻

[sudden slate]

Howdy JP

[shell mason]

@teal river i have ThermalTake expo stream on other computer and S&T on other

great one @rapid hornet

[teal river]

Heh, nice

[waxen thistle]

Such a cute 🪘 😸

[teal river]

BONGO CAT

[rapid hornet]

thanks all!

[teal river]

Hehe, milk

[sudden slate]

Pictograms: the new Discord trend

[autumn turret]

That jumbo keycap looks like a fun gameshow buzzer JP!

[teal river]

Spoop eyes

[autumn turret]

With boopable nose

[teal river]

Round TFTs were designed for eyes

[nova totem]

I need to get my hands on some round displays

[autumn turret]

Good job getting that ported to the Itsy Bitsy @low fractal !

[tulip canyon]

@haughty quiver Suggestion for text on the BIG key. "ESCAPE"

[autumn turret]

Or "EJECT!"

[shell mason]

there is some cool round displays what have longer shape what could be nice too

[teal river]

Hello! Awesome bowtie :D

[autumn turret]

2 big honkin' buttons - "EJECT" and "MUTE" XD

[waxen thistle]

🎵 plays Guile theme on loop 🎵

[shell mason]

or "PANIC"

[teal river]

Lol

Yay voice gaming$

[autumn turret]

and if you get the 4x1 keys, "PANIC" "AT" "THE" "DISCO" lol

Very cool @lofty mist!

[lofty mist]

Thanks! 😄

[lofty mist]

Thanks! It's kinda been my ongoing project 🙂

[teal river]

That's an awesome pfp too!

[lofty mist]

Right? I love the silly idea of yelling at your game 🙂

[waxen thistle]

@lofty mist Two words: You Win!

[haughty quiver]

that's so rad @lofty mist

[autumn turret]

I've made yelling "ALEXA!" a game!

[lofty mist]

Thanks! 😄

[autumn turret]

Good job @pearl shoal and @paper peak! The amount of progress, functionality and accessibility being made available is incredible

[shell mason]

as @haughty quiver have that rage quit button so yelling for game is like continuum for it what @lofty mist showed

[lofty mist]

LOL...trying to describe the Echo without saying Alexa is my game 😛

[teal river]

Probably best for single player XD

[lofty mist]

I can imagine all the trolling you could do for couch vs/coop 🙂

[teal river]

Hehe

[autumn turret]

That's too flipping clever

[nova totem]

That's an amazing idea @pearl shoal

[upbeat coral]

In Tinkercad, I turn a board or monitor or whatever into a hole.

[teal river]

Simple and super useful!

[tulip canyon]

Blender 3D has a notion of booleans for subtracting two 3d models. Very handy
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/modeling/modifiers/generate/booleans.html

[waxen thistle]

Very nice @pearl shoal

[pearl shoal]

Thanks guys!

[autumn turret]

That ATMegaZero board looks so awesome

[woeful pond]

very nice @pearl shoal

[grizzled wadi]

Thanks @autumn turret

[waxen thistle]

🎲 🎲

[teal river]

Mmm, Nixies

[grizzled wadi]

Here is the link to the project I just shared

https://github.com/eddieespinal/ATMegaZero_Garage_Automation_Circuitpython

It uses my board https://circuitpython.org/board/atmegazero_esp32s2/

[waxen thistle]

Steampunk Olmec!

[smoky island]

That is AWESOME!

[tulip canyon]

wild

[teal river]

Ohhh, awesome not guy!

[autumn turret]

Wooooaaahhhhh! That's so cool Tavis!

[haughty quiver]

That sculpture is fantastic!

[nova totem]

That's very cool looking

[opaque hearth]

I like that Tavis !!!

[autumn turret]

The eyes blinking and all... nice!

Great colab between you and your dad Tavis

[lofty mist]

Cool sculpture!

[autumn turret]

cool idea Mike! And love that you have a battery monitor and alert built-in too!

[waxen thistle]

A smart Multi-pass?

[haughty quiver]

So dang awesome @woeful pond

[raw tapir]

MOOLTI PASS!

[waxen thistle]

I love this. 💜

[tulip canyon]

Was typing that 😄

[raw tapir]

Big badda boom

[rapid hornet]

Tavis and Mike: say hi here so I can give you the show and tell role

[tulip canyon]

I cannot NOT hear it like that

[autumn turret]

Nice mashup @woeful pond, good job!

[woeful pond]

@autumn turret Thank you

[autumn turret]

How are you going to put your house numbers in there @nova totem? 😉

[teal river]

Oh wow, that's a great restore!

[autumn turret]

Seriously though, that's really nicely done restoration

[viral sail]

Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.

[nova totem]

Ha I'm not sure yet

[autumn turret]

Thanks for sharing all your incredible projects everyone ❤️

[sudden slate]

Why else would you build something

• @nova totem

[nova totem]

Thanks everyone. It was a random weekend idea and project

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for sharing everyone! You're a source of inspiration for us and countless others! 🛠️

[teal river]

Great show!

[lofty mist]

Great projects everyone!

[hollow barn]

repo link for my project: https://github.com/mpechner/sunweather

[sudden slate]

Aannd welcome to Ask an Engineer 🙂

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/uWiNnv2e3Jw

[sudden slate]

I like the music 🕺

[waxen thistle]

🏳️‍🌈

[grizzled wadi]

I love it, can't fake that siren 🙂

[teal river]

https://tenor.com/view/april3-find-a-rainbow-day-national-find-a-rainbow-day-happy-national-find-a-rainbow-day-finding-rainbows-gif-13844994

[slow spire]

Hi!

[teal river]

Hewwo!

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[teal river]

Question for Ladyada: how many product ideas have you had, how many have made it to development, and how many actually become products?

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays

[autumn turret]

And JP's demos for the product pick are always cool and clever

[teal river]

BONGO CAT best demo

That parsec sound has deafened me

[autumn turret]

It's not the sound that deafened you - sound doesn't travel in space (space) ((space)) (((space)))

[noble grove]

@teal river WHAT?

[teal river]

Parsecs don't have to be in space XD

[teal river]

WHAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU

[autumn turret]

But these are, because they're just so faaarrr oouuuuuttttt

[slow spire]

Except explosions. Or classical music. You can hear those in space.

[teal river]

I can't imagine Adafruit existing as it does without being inclusive

[waxen thistle]

We can do more together. 💜

[echo canopy]

🌈

[gray hinge]

Hey its Tavis here...

[slow spire]

Hi, @gray hinge

[teal river]

It means a lot more seeing Adafruit celebrating than <INSERT SOULLESS CORPORATION NAME HERE>

[autumn turret]

That's because Adafruit lives their values, as opposed to paying lip service for <insert reason here>

[teal river]

Heavy clipping!

[slow spire]

This is a cool carb demo

[gray hinge]

Thanks!

[waxen thistle]

To be fair, there are many other companies that put in the work and celebrate inclusiveness. We should recognize and thank them for doing the right thing too.

Because a smile and gratitude go a long ways. We want to make sure they keep doing that.

[gray hinge]

I used the roboface sketch but modded it so the eyes are a little more subtle and weeeeird.... For some reason though the eyes are cashing intermittently and lockinmg up the arduino. I havent been able to nail that down yet... it can go for an hour or 15 minutes...

[slow spire]

I just think when a company's diversity reflects its customers, it's likely to understand and serve them better

[teal river]

Yeah. There are some big companies with souls that actually friggin' care about people and really work towards good

[grand tusk]

Socket headers are a thing?

[teal river]

They've been a thing XD

[slow spire]

Yep, and they come in low-profile, too!

[waxen thistle]

I'll huff, I'll puff, and I'll...not get anywhere. Time to turn on the rework station. What was I even thinking?

[teal river]

Traffic jam of components XD

[waxen thistle]

https://8bitworkshop.com

[slow spire]

O. M. G.

[waxen thistle]

I think I need a process flow chart for who acquired who.

[tulip canyon]

Stack Overflow acquired today. I hope every programming answer ever doesn't go away.

[woeful pond]

It would be nice if all that company info was posted to keep up

[compact sandal]

Infineon bought Cypress Semiconductor which previously merged with Spansion

[slow spire]

Remebering 30Rock:
“Tracy: So GE will produce the Tracy Jordan Meat Machine?
Jack: Oh no, no. GE could never make something so... unique. We'll have to pass this off to one of our subsidiaries. You see, GE owns KitchenAll of Colorado, which in turn owns JMI of Stamford which is a majority shareholder of Pokerfastlane.com which recently acquired the Sheinhardt Wig Company which owns NBC outright. NBC owns Winnipeg Iron Works which owns the AHP Chanagi Party Meats company of Pyongyang, North Korea... and they will make the Meat Machine.”

[teal river]

There are like 3 companies that own everything

[waxen thistle]

https://jobs.adafruit.com

[hot frigate]

That was so fluently spoken, wow!

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/2021/06/01/python-on-microcontrollers-newsletter-python-on-hardware-becomes-mainstream-and-more-python-adafruit-circuitpython-micropython-thepsf/

[woeful pond]

thanks

[slow spire]

🐍 > ☕

[teal river]

CP overload!

CP >>>>>>> Arduino

[waxen thistle]

There are times when Arduino is better than CircuitPython -- they're two very different tools that enable folks to do some pretty awesome things.

[open girder]

it's a great time to be a maker, lots of choices!

[waxen thistle]

But....I'm biased....CP is sooo easy to pickup and use for a beginner!

[open girder]

and lots of ways to make whatever you can imagine!

[slow spire]

MakeCode is pretty sweet, too

[autumn turret]

And when you find yourself in a helpful community of makers, so much awesome ❤️

[waxen thistle]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[sudden slate]

I agree

[slow spire]

And Lua, and don't forget JavaScript on embedded.

[waxen thistle]

And CircuitPlayground too! That's so awesome, just drag and drop.

[lilac tusk]

And if you venture down the rabbit hole you end up doing this after work most nights 🙂

[slow spire]

@lilac tusk That's called side projects, and very good for our future career

[lilac tusk]

This is actually for an order I’m working on 😅

[slow spire]

Oooh is that a new custom MCU you're making?

[autumn turret]

Very cool @lilac tusk! Congrats!

[teal river]

I want Adafruit to buy Radio Shack and use the name

[grand tusk]

I2S on QTPy?

[slow spire]

Maybe Sapling is a new add-on standard?

[lilac tusk]

It’s a slightly more featured Qt Py basically is what I make

[teal river]

Double rainbow!

[lilac tusk]

Sapling is a size standard for boards my company makes

[sudden slate]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-fail-missed-high-five-high-five-fail-dumb-and-dumber-gif-3572729

I slapped my screen when the dots came on

[slow spire]

Nice

[grand tusk]

NeoTrinkey. Bigger on the inside.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-high-five-sonic-movie-sonic-sega-gif-16631725

[lilac tusk]

When my company grows up, i want it to be like Adafruit. Such an amazing company to emulate

[open girder]

hack ®

[waxen thistle]

oh, i love the focus pulling they're doing, very nice touch.

[open girder]

we'll do a post and see if they go for the idea of making hack ® stores 🙂

[lilac tusk]

Ohhh that would be sweet

[sudden slate]

IKR

Adafruit should do Jazz in Paris for one of their timelapses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GkA5xZVebk

[grand tusk]

Candy dish?

[sudden slate]

I saw that!

[waxen thistle]

@lilac tusk They've said it before -- happily copy what they do 🙂 We need more kind companies that are conscientious and community-focused.

[teal river]

I'm designing around an RP2040!

Adafruit ARM partnership when???

[waxen thistle]

That's baffling inexpensive.

[autumn turret]

If they want to keep more of the original name - "hack ® shack"

[teal river]

Magically inexpensive!

[sudden slate]

NVIDIA needs to hurry up & buy ARM

for more ARM software

IMHO

[tulip canyon]

CPU = $1, other components = $1k on the Black Market

[autumn turret]

Anbd for smaller shops, trying to think of a good name, like "hack ® run"

[slow spire]

Try a 30 day free trial of the ARM license. 🙂

[teal river]

RP2040 Jumbo

[lilac tusk]

If you think $1 is cheap, wait till you buy 500

[autumn turret]

The "40" in "2040" feels like it was maybe forced into explanation, unless there's more to it for other future projects

[sudden slate]

WOW 💵💵💵

[waxen thistle]

@slow spire How so?

[autumn turret]

Microcenter pricing for Pis? 1 = 1$, 2-49 = 1.25$, 50+ = 2.99$

[slow spire]

<jk>

[lilac tusk]

Lol

[waxen thistle]

What about a hacker-focused vending machine for malls and other developed areas? A place to sell solder, resistors, etc. Low margin items that can easily be sold unattended....

[lilac tusk]

Like they have in Japan?

[slow spire]

The AdaMat

[waxen thistle]

@lilac tusk exactly my inspiration 🙂

[sudden slate]

We need one of those

[lilac tusk]

I want to find one here in the US

[autumn turret]

Pair it with a snack food: "Hack ®️ n' snack ®️ "

[lilac tusk]

Just strolling along and bam, you see a soldering kit you just have to have

Slap a $10 spot in the machine and bam

[sudden slate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gashapon

[lilac tusk]

Run home and enjoy hours of fun

[autumn turret]

Well, they sell very spendy devices in vending machines at airports. Like tablets, Bose headphones, etc.

[sudden slate]

The Gashapon of the future

[slow spire]

Or Chips, Dips, and chips and dip.

[digital crescent]

There is one in Japan

[autumn turret]

Though ironically, they also sell suitcases at the airport, so 🤷

[waxen thistle]

@autumn turret Yepper, for typically high margin items. At a considerable markup too. I'm thinking the opposite -- reasonable markup and for low-margin items. The things we loved vintage Radio Shack for -- but couldn't sustain the business... 🙂

[sudden slate]

I thought too late now

[autumn turret]

Like a small pack of resistors, solder, flux, etc?

[slow spire]

I just got asked by someone where they could by a resistor in San Francisco. 🤦‍♂️

[sudden slate]

🤦‍♂️

That is a cool demo

[autumn turret]

Agreed - crazy powerful for a 1$ chip

[grand tusk]

Can you play Lemmings tm on it?

[waxen thistle]

@autumn turret Yepper -- stuff that we grumble when we have to wait 3-5 days for a mail order to come in, that we would've run to Radio Shack of yesteryear....

[teal river]

I need like, 5 of the RP2040 XD

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5067

[teal river]

I can't afford more new things right now XD

[sudden slate]

You could buy those for like 10 DOGE

[dim knot]

CircuitPython 7 Poster https://www.adafruit.com/product/5067

[sudden slate]

Thinking in crypto

[dim knot]

IR Break Beam Sensors with Premium Wire Header Ends - 3mm LEDs https://www.adafruit.com/product/2167

IR Break Beam Sensor with Premium Wire Header Ends - 5mm LEDs https://www.adafruit.com/product/2168

PROTOTYPING / JUMPER WIRING / FEMALE/FEMALE https://www.adafruit.com/category/468

[slow spire]

Speaking of rainbows!

[waxen thistle]

Not recommended for scrambling eggs.

[dim knot]

Wire Whisk Style Key Cap Remover / Puller https://www.adafruit.com/product/4977

[hot frigate]

They are not all symmetric. The opening picture of two wires, red and brown, had the "pin1" arrow on different colors. Was that right?

[sudden slate]

Good times 🙂

https://blog.adafruit.com/2014/08/29/raspi-crypto-currency-tracker/

[dim knot]

Magnetic contact switch (door sensor) https://www.adafruit.com/product/375

[slow spire]

Maybe a little robin's egg, just before making a tiny omelette on the mini hotplate.

[dim knot]

Adafruit FunHouse Starter Kit - IoT Home Automation Exploration - ADABOX018 Essentials https://www.adafruit.com/product/5069

[autumn turret]

egg not included
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4948

[sudden slate]

Awww

[autumn turret]

Are those neopixel strips compatible with the analog connectors on the FunHouse?

[slow spire]

I love RGBW strips. You sacrifice a bit of blue saturation, but get gorgeous whites.

[teal river]

AHHHH <3

Oh, yay low count RP2040! Can't wait to get my hands on them!

[noble grove]

Can you get sockets for those chips?

[dim knot]

Raspberry Pi RP2040 Microcontroller - Surface Mount Chips - 10 Pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5042

Raspberry Pi RP2040 Microcontroller - Single Surface Mount Chip https://www.adafruit.com/product/5041

[slow spire]

See, all this is building up to the next Adabox, which is about making tiny food for your tiny pets. Shhhh!

[echo canopy]

Question for the show: Pride Month.. in the Adafruit blog you had featured a story about Nina West and the Blues Clues

Just curious if you had previously followed Nina or is she a new discovery?

[slow spire]

@open girder

[balmy steppe]

Question for Ask an Engineer: Hi I’m wondering if there is a way to execute code that would somehow be embedded in a .json formate. I like the simplicity of .json, but it seems to really only be used for storing variables. I like the idea of being able to remotely update code that would be embedded in .json and I’m wondering if something like that has already been done. If not, I’ll try to give it a shot but I’d like to know before trying to reinvent the wheel. Thanks, I appreciate you all.

[sudden slate]

@open girder What CP lib should I use for the Funhouse display??

[slow spire]

That's a good question/project topic to start on forums.adafruit.com!

[autumn turret]

Trevor's work makes tempts me to get an iOS device

[lilac tusk]

i'd love to do iOS work. i feel like now i probably could do it easier than when i tried before

[shell mason]

Hugo think of all the metaverse thing

[upper sandal]

don't steal your own nose !

[grand tusk]

Why are the analog ports on FunHouse 5V?

[lofty idol]

I have a project using the funhouse that downloads the album art from youtube for current playing music - I have lost my code and all my libraries a few times because the funhouse has to be in read-write mode to download the images - is there a way to do this in memory using bytesIO vs a file object?

[autumn turret]

Possibly. I'd imagine Swift is easier than ObjC.

Maybe using __import(jsonVar)__ in CP?

[shell mason]

great top secret vault segment today

[sudden slate]

Cool, thanks

[shell mason]

also RP 2040 code was cool today

[sly radish]

Thanks for the Gartner report showing Python relevance

[grand tusk]

Wish FunHouse had an SD card.

[autumn turret]

If you can create or find an online API that can take in the album art URL, and create a small bitmap, it might be easier to keep in memory

[woeful pond]

free stuff, that's really cool

[teal river]

For those working at Adafruit HQ, what are hours and schedules like?

[lofty idol]

I've got an image reducer running on a container locally - the challenge is that all of the drivers are looking for a file object - I have it downloading into a bytesIO object and I can read the file

[sudden slate]

Can people post tutorials like on Instructables on the learn guide section?

[lofty idol]

It would be great for a user submitted section

[sudden slate]

I know, right!

[autumn turret]

Yeah, I can see that. The retrieved and in-memory representation management. :/

[teal river]

Snorks!

Flexibility is good!

[upper sandal]

snorks !

[teal river]

Do you let people work 100 hours if they want? XD

[lofty idol]

I started the process of re-writing the ondiskbitmap code and learning the bitmap file format

[sudden slate]

I do Hackster.io and Instructables.com

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌘

[lofty idol]

You guys rock!!

[sudden slate]

And Maker.pro

[waxen thistle]

No mandatory overtime, swing shifts, and weekends? sounds like a dream. 🙂

[sly radish]

MUCH ❤️

[grand tusk]

Thanks

[teal river]

Work-life balance good, gotta keep people like me from catching fire XD

[haughty quiver]

Bye all!

[autumn turret]

Thank you Adafruit and Adafriends! Stay wonderful and be excellent to each other!

[balmy steppe]

Thank you all!!!! Have a good night guys!!!!

[sudden slate]

Bye!!!

[teal river]

Good show! Love y'all!

[waxen thistle]

Thanks @open girder for another excellent evening of shows!

[sudden slate]

Thanks so much!

[lofty idol]

Can't wait for the keyboard!

[sudden slate]

Thanks @open girder

[hot frigate]

Thanks, good night all!

[sudden slate]

You are awesome

[urban gale]

thanks @open girder and all!

[woeful pond]

@open girder great show and great information...thank you

[clear matrix]

Hey, folks! JP's Workshop will be happening tomorrow, instead of today. Same time, different day: 1pm Pacific / 4pm Eastern, Friday 4 June 2021.

[teal river]

Onoes, I have to work until 4:30 tomorrow DX

[waxen thistle]

Lars is on a mission to collect all the Infinity Trinkeys -- and he figured out how to traverse time via an inverted 3D printed möbius strip.

JP's Workshop that was scheduled for 4pm eastern today has time-shifted to tomorrow -- same channel, same hour, different day.

[sly radish]

When is the next Deep Dive w\Scott ?

.... anticipated ...

[waxen thistle]

This Friday at 5pm eastern

[grand tusk]

They just don't understand how crossovers work.

[sterile forge]

Is JP on today?

[shell mason]

tomorrow

[sterile forge]

what time

[sudden slate]

"JP's Workshop that was scheduled for 4pm eastern today has time-shifted to tomorrow -- same channel, same hour, different day."

So 3pm Central

I think

[teal river]

I was able to make up the time today that I was gonna make up tomorrow, so I can indeed watch JP tomorrow! :D

[sterile forge]

that's correct 4pm eastern. Thanks for the info.👍

[sudden slate]

👍

[grand tusk]

I knew JP was doing something with the new CircuitPython 7 poster. I think he misspelled "Decoupage" though.

[rapid hornet]

<@&846780953275006976> The next deep dive is three hours away! No deep dive for the next two weeks after this one. The notes doc is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NVk8c3bTSZu_K-aVwrEbjufAIX518GBiTUvMHEJmRiY/edit?usp=sharing and the youtube stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc5xCt9TjPI

[teal river]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-wait-excited-whoo-spin-dog-gif-17607195

[cinder wind]

what's "BLE"? Is that what the Blinka snake does with its tongue? "blleaahhhh" 😜

[teal river]

lol

[grand tusk]

Being Like Elvis?

[teal river]

Blimey, Lookit 'em!

[waxen thistle]

Good afternoon all you wonderful people!

[viscid bolt]

Good afternoon

[teal river]

Hewwo!

Just 2 minutes :O

very very bad storms here.... my head is killing me

[waxen thistle]

Likewise here in NJ.

[teal river]

NJ, you say... that's not far from here XD

[woeful pond]

good afternoon

what part of Jersey? I used to live there.

[inner spade]

👋

[waxen thistle]

Northeastern part, within sight of NYC

[teal river]

Ah, that's kinda far XD

I'm down in Philly

[woeful pond]

I'm in Florida now

[teal river]

DIDNEYWORL!

[woeful pond]

lol. And I've only been once.

[opaque hearth]

Sunny SoCal. for me :^)

[woeful pond]

nice

[grand tusk]

I live in a four letter state.

[teal river]

Utah? That's a myth!

[grand tusk]

Livin' the dream.

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[teal river]

Henlo

[woeful pond]

Yahhhh1

yes

[teal river]

[woeful pond]

chit chat

[waxen thistle]

https://jobs.adafruit.com

[sly radish]

Enjoy all you do John!

[waxen thistle]

What? Huh? Eh? It's easy to get....what was it, confused?

There totally aren't any shiny objects or squirrels to distract me....

[grand tusk]

Yay! Bongo Cat!

[opaque hearth]

beatnick bongo cat

[teal river]

What were we talking about?

BONGO CAT BEST

[viral sail]

keycap recap

[teal river]

lol

JP: The man with the plan, and stylish glasses!

De Bouncer is who bounces bums out of the bar!

[waxen thistle]

Cover fee is three code commits. And a friendly code review.

[woeful pond]

definition - who use to be a bouncer but not anymore

[teal river]

lol

Why do your USB serial devices have % at the end?

[grand tusk]

Can you debounce cap touch pads?

[teal river]

I think so?

[woeful pond]

rf someting

radiohead?

can you do a basic switch with the lora (arduino)?

(tx, rx)

[waxen thistle]

Is this the one @haughty quiver?

https://learn.adafruit.com/remote-effects-trigger

[teal river]

That % thing is strange, my Mac doesn't do that

Ah, I'm on Catalina, are you on Big Sur?

[woeful pond]

yes, my mac does that

that was a very cool project

[teal river]

hmm

[manic vessel]

% means non-root user
$ means root user

[teal river]

hmm

Is that a Big Sur thing?

[woeful pond]

the new update on mac changed the permissions

[teal river]

Maybe I'm the weird one because I'm on Catalina, lol

[waxen thistle]

How is a Groot user indicated?

[manic vessel]

long-standing linux/unix convention for prompts

[teal river]

I am Groot

[woeful pond]

lol

[manic vessel]

I am Groot

[odd zodiac]

I am Groot

[teal river]

I am Groot!

[waxen thistle]

I wish these switches were still in stock 😕

[teal river]

Same

I want to buiild a keyboard out of them

[cinder wind]

The '%' in the /dev/tty file list is done in Linux/MacOS to indicate a "special" file (in this case a device driver)

[grand tusk]

forehead scale keycaps

[teal river]

lol

Is my MacBook broken that it doesn't show the %? lol

BEEF

[waxen thistle]

And I also wish Keychron had their K3 in stock with Orange switches. Someday 🙂

[woeful pond]

no, the new update change terminal

[teal river]

Ok, so it's just because I'm on an old version XD

[woeful pond]

I have another mac with older version, it still works great

[cinder wind]

hey @haughty quiver when are you getting the rest of the big key switches to make a 65% keyboard?

call it the 400x 65% keyboard

[waxen thistle]

We hear you loud and clear 🙂

[clear matrix]

The 260 keyboard.

[teal river]

To the email!

[viral sail]

I wonder how many words per minute you could type with that.

[teal river]

I don't see a direct contact for emailing NovelKeys, but you can sign up for restock notifications, so that might make them restock if you sign up! https://novelkeys.xyz/products/the-big-switch-series

4% keyboard, also a milk carton, but 4 keys!

You could email them and see if they mind if you share your model

2% pillbox

[woeful pond]

right opinon

[teal river]

RIP right click

[cinder wind]

I like the curves of this 2-key design!

[teal river]

It's smooth

[wispy sorrel]

Can we built a fido2 u2f key using rp2040 ie. QtPy

[teal river]

Mmmm macro

[pearl shoal]

Howdy @haughty quiver - sorry I'm late

[grand tusk]

kick drum, high hat

[teal river]

Bleep bloop!

[wispy sorrel]

also, Any feathers for raspberry pi compute module like display, battery, and USB port hub and side mounted press switches

[pearl shoal]

I have a great use for that now - with the OBS Studio MIDI controller plugin - it's such a great fit

[teal river]

Focusing hard

Where do you get the diffusion cards?

[pearl shoal]

Using MIDI instead of keyboard/mouse actions makes the collisions disappear

[cinder wind]

@wispy sorrel there is the Piunora for the Raspberry Pi 4 compute module https://www.crowdsupply.com/diodes-delight/piunora

[teal river]

OSU!

It's still around and I think pretty popular?

[waxen thistle]

https://osu.ppy.sh/home

[pearl shoal]

Also would be great a XBox Adaptive Controller add-on peripheral now the CircuitPython will support it out of the box

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4749

[wispy sorrel]

@cinder wind no no
Something like pi zero features

[cinder wind]

unclear what you're asking about

[teal river]

danke

XD

[grand tusk]

Thanks JP!

[teal river]

Maybe a bottom cap to seal it up?

[waxen thistle]

Excellent show @haughty quiver!

Stick around folks for Scott's Deep Dive at 5pm eastern (in less than 15 "Earth" minutes)! ⌚

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[teal river]

Mmm timelapse

Very good show!

[cinder wind]

add the bongocat display!

[teal river]

Deep Dive woo!

[grand tusk]

How many demisols is that?

[teal river]

SPECIAL GUEST?! :O

My two favorites together!

Bai for now!

[haughty quiver]

hey thanks!

[inner spade]

Thanks @haughty quiver !

[woeful pond]

Thank you @haughty quiver

[grand tusk]

Wow, just like Myth Busters and Numbers!

[wispy sorrel]

https://learn.adafruit.com/assets/96234
@cinder wind
Something like that but for raspberry pi compute module
Exactly matching dimensions of the compute module board

[teal river]

I love these bleep bloops, they remind me of an I had that made simple rhythm music by setting a bunch of looping patterns -- you just turned dots in a matrix on or off to vary sound

bbs food

[cinder wind]

Pi Compute Module is larger than Feather form-factor, asfaik

[wispy sorrel]

@cinder wind I keep searching

[sly radish]

Hey Scott

[nova totem]

Hello from the hot (for us) prairies

[viscid bolt]

Hi Scott

[modern night]

How's it going all?

[waxen thistle]

Rain? In Seattle?

[sly radish]

Fridays just wont be the same ... come back soon!

[waxen thistle]

I hear JP!

[nova totem]

I could hear him

[odd zodiac]

Hi from Cornwall

[modern night]

Sounds good on my end

[teal river]

I have returned! With hotdogs!

I don't use my phone password, I use my fingerprints :D but I have to update those a lot...

[woeful pond]

hello

[sly radish]

The screen wizardry is half the fun ... impressive

[teal river]

Screen wizardry is hard

This is so magical seeing JP and Scott at the same time :D

[sly radish]

indeed ... who is keeping time?

[gusty wedge]

Hi from 🇨🇷 .

[woeful pond]

what type of evil magic is this.

[teal river]

It's a shame you can't have multiple Discord windows

Are you behind? It shows this channel right now

Oh wait I'm behind, lol

[proper prawn]

Hi everybody from Paul in Lisbon

[teal river]

forgot I was catching up still XD

[gusty wedge]

Yeah, I had like a month of lag... youtube didn't started playing the stream when it started...

[teal river]

@haughty quiver I'm not huge on spice, how spicy is it?

[waxen thistle]

Sam's Club had some SmartFood Popcorn with Krispy Kreme Donut flavor 🙂 The salty and sweet really goes well together 🙂

[sly radish]

gonna head down the street for that! .... ~smoky~

[teal river]

I wonder if Trader Joe's is around here...

[waxen thistle]

Yes! I love those videos!

[gusty wedge]

Yum tumoric... It's delicous for making contact photography 🙂

[simple fractal]

yay, discord is now workng.

[teal river]

My favorite popcorn is the following ingredient list:
Corn, Palmseed Oil, Salt

[gusty wedge]

What's the (aprox) longitude difference between you two? 🙂

[inner spade]

“non-chloric, silicon-based kitchen lubricant”

[teal river]

I like chocolate stout

peanutbutter will kill me

Per LA Ale Work's site:

Sea Salt, Lime, Hallertauer, Saaz

5.6%

The sun is out, the water is warm, and a cold beer is calling your name. Can you hear it? … baaeeee… …saaaalt baaeeee… Pinch those fingers, sprinkle the NaC1, and beat that thirst into submission, yo!```

[gusty wedge]

I'll have my brewery working back again, probably by september. (I'm building my house this month... moving away from the city to the sea side-ish)

[sly radish]

John is in the Weekend Groove 🙂

[teal river]

I need to brew beer

[simple fractal]

May have this one later

[teal river]

mmm that looks good

[maiden lily]

is the discord supposed to be on screen? right now it's the youtube chat twice, haha

[simple fractal]

its a local brewery. https://www.coastmountainbrewing.com/beers/coast-mountain-sour-series-beers/

[waxen thistle]

@maiden lily Good catch 🙂

[gusty wedge]

This is my last batch. IPAs and a trigo-melocotón.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fede2cr/portfolio/master/doc/img/IPAs.jpg

[simple fractal]

i think screen space is being given to JP 🙂

[woeful pond]

Ask about the rf radio library

[gusty wedge]

On the "maturing" room, filled with ESP8266s from back in the days... (with dht11)

[simple fractal]

someone i ski with has promised that next ski season we'll share some of his homebrew. Once we can actually interact indoors again 🙂

[teal river]

Arduino was my first serious foray into microcontrollers

[gusty wedge]

Mine was with th XO laptop. You can plug analog stuff in the headphones input ❤️

[teal river]

I was doing embedded Windows and DOS machines controlling things via parallel or RS-232 serial, lol

[simple fractal]

i will not discuss my first micro. as it will date me back to the dawn of said device

[teal river]

Hehe, nice

[proper prawn]

I am back into Circuitpython after an 'excursion' (more a 'battle') with C++. With CP I encounter much less problems. Also the freedom we have in the Python language. I am able to create a project in much less time than in C++.

[woeful pond]

I was using parallax

[gusty wedge]

It's kinda funny I started hardware with python before it was a thing.. and here I am, a bunch of years later, in the same place, doing the same thing 🙂

[proper prawn]

Exactly, that's it Don, the great thing of having immediate 'feedback' form the iterative way in CP

[gusty wedge]

What I don't like of C, it that I normally write like this
if () {
}
And it seems nobody else like it that way 😦

[tame dew]

@rapid hornet and I both went to the barber this week. High and tight!

[gusty wedge]

( On there is one way and that's it)

[shell mason]

how are you guys

[teal river]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-head-slam-anime-sleepy-exhausted-gif-15803365

[proper prawn]

My current CP project. Reading GPS datagrams sent from MS Flightsimulator 2020

[teal river]

noice

[waxen thistle]

https://learn.adafruit.com/circuitpython-essentials

[proper prawn]

The datagram representation

[waxen thistle]

https://github.com/todbot/circuitpython-tricks

[gusty wedge]

Translated version. https://learn.adafruit.com/circuitpython-sin-complicaciones-para-la-circuit-playground-express

[upper sandal]

Apple's Swift Playground on iPads has a thing where it puts if blocks for you on a tap and stuff like that

[tame dew]

I need to play with Swift

Objective C never stuck for me… like 1994 ugh. I feel less young.

[upper sandal]

I like using swift a lot

[tame dew]

Ruby on Rails also did not stick…

[wind spoke]

Do you know EduBlock? https://edublocks.org/ This is Python with blocks.

[pearl shoal]

Just a thought - what I'd really like to be able to do is configure a device by a phone. So, edit a config file or set values. It would let us change delays, configure what keystrokes/midi notes are sent, etc.

[teal river]

Put buttons on ALL the things!

[woeful pond]

lol

[teal river]

I need to set my rotary to not show as CIRCUITPY so I can use it for volume on my work computer

[tame dew]

Ah, so boot.py is 7.x only? I’m falling behind

[pearl shoal]

boot.py has been around, but the ability to disable USB devices is in the 7.x beta line

[teal river]

I think you can boot.py on CP 6.2, but not do the "hide circuitpy" thing

[tame dew]

Thanks folks!

[teal river]

np :D

[pearl shoal]

Onboarding is always difficult. It's critical on web-based software as well.

[waxen thistle]

It's a lesson that's hard learned when working with youth in 4H....you have about 5 minutes to set the tone, expectations, and keep their attention.

[teal river]

I would be sad if Blinka turned into Clippy

I tend to hand-type things sometimes instead of copying and pasting XD

[wind spoke]

Maybe a boot.py generator from a "graphical" or menu kind of interface where you can choose from various behaviour (filesystem, usb visibility, ...).

[modern night]

this is fun to think through. A possible ble dropdown quickstart--choose project bundle, choose board, fill out prompted variable names, upload. These are really interested design questions to think about

[pearl shoal]

I have an issue with "coming back to" CircuitPython... often, the "final" version of the code ONLY exists on the device. So I've got to enforce a habit of copying things to a c:\python or /home/bill/puthon folder. Having Mu (or any other editor) keep a "shadow" copy somewhere would be great

[teal river]

Remember the Windows Briefcase, where you'd modify something in the briefcase and it existed in two places? WHY DID THEY REMOVE THAT?

Simple and useful

[wind spoke]

notepad++ seems to do that, or I keep it running for a long time.

[upper sandal]

yeah, I made myself a "backup all connected boards" shortcut to make it easy but keeping local backups of files edited is something that would help

[pearl shoal]

Arduino installing the examples when you install a library is nice - I use it a lot

[upper sandal]

(and i'm sure some editors have a plugin for that)

[woeful pond]

yeah that's cool

[teal river]

Pico can do VGA graphics :D

[upper sandal]

Bundle management in Mu is a goal, it would also be able to give you the list of examples that go with a library

[teal river]

Ohhh, demoscene, retro

[pearl shoal]

Yes, it just keeps every file open. But I'd prefer that Mu or whatever actually had a folder that kept your projects and when it saw a device that was associated with a project would sync them

[gusty wedge]

I like to use that "video card" as an example, for when people say python is slow 🙂

[teal river]

I'm still mad that Briefcase was removed

[modern night]

is there a circuit python 'fake threads' for non critical/non blocking functions?

[upper sandal]

there is tasko

[smoky island]

This piper project that popped up a few months back I think supports blockly and python back and forth sort of like make code https://make.playpiper.com/

[upper sandal]

tasko is a kind of simple asyncio implementation https://github.com/WarriorOfWire/tasko

[teal river]

Neradoc, do you have Briefcase replacement? lol

[pearl shoal]

Full multithreading opens some huge cans of worms. With many years of commercial Java work, I've learned it really needs some standard concurrency mechanisms and lots of discipline. I'm not sure it fits into Adafruit's primary target audience.

[smoky island]

I want to say there was a web based circuitpython IDE that had examples built into it that someone shared around here a few months back as well, but the name escapes me.

[wind spoke]

Fetching a thermal image simultaneously as reading from user input is... problematic. Because the code is in a library, you cannot "interleave" action. This is a reason for "interrupt". 🙂

[inner spade]

@rapid hornet An extension like ulab within CircuitPython is a game-changer, btw. Is other similar functionality planned? (especially now that CPy is closer to the current version of micropython)

[teal river]

If you had code1.py and code2.py, could there be a dedicated memory space for them to write variables that either could read or write? Or like, 1 can read to space A and 2 write to space B, and 1 can read space B and 2 can read space A?

[wind spoke]

You need synchronisation, atomic section, concurrency is HARD.

[teal river]

It certainly sounds it!

[upper sandal]

I would rather see that with the use of two queues per "process" from which they can read and write (one is input, one is output)

that's a model that doesn't work too badly

[pearl shoal]

Side-rant: Years ago, multithreading was a wild-wild-west in Java - and everybody wrote very bad code. Then Doug Lea wrote this book https://www.amazon.com/Concurrent-Programming-Java™-Principles-Pattern/dp/0201310090 and came up with a good library that everyone standardized on. It made all the difference in the world.

Without that kind of guidance, concurrency will be a nightmare for CircuitPython

[wind spoke]

I was first to say HARD... maybe I influenced the word used here...

[smoky island]

Found it! There is this web based IDE that has example code built in for you to grab and put into your scripts: https://slappy.io/

[waxen thistle]

Not related to Slappy the Squirrel 🙂

[teal river]

I really, really love the file on a drive, run when saved lifestyle of CP

[wind spoke]

I want to read from the thermal camera simultaneously as user input... but the code for the thermal camera is in a library.

[teal river]

Bai JP!

[sly radish]

Thanks John!

[modern night]

Thanks for chatting, this was delightful to see and hear your perspective!

[nova totem]

Thanks JP!

[waxen thistle]

@haughty quiver Thanks for being a guest on Scott's Deep Dive! It's always a pleasure to hear from ya!

[wind spoke]

JP is the best!

[teal river]

JP is pretty awesome

[cinder wind]

catching up, but now I want this popcorn, thanks @haughty quiver https://totallythebomb.com/trader-joes-seasoned-popcorn

[teal river]

Scott is also awesome :D it was great getting a double dose of JP AND having him with Scott!

Heh, that was a long chat

[haughty quiver]

SAME! I've tried to be diligent about keeping a copy on local storage as well as the micro

[gusty wedge]

JP is in Peru.

[wind spoke]

How are we going to do the next two weeks???

[shell mason]

we have felt to JP microverse

[teal river]

JP has coolest workshop

[waxen thistle]

Remember to get your second dose of JP 20 minutes after the first one! 🙂

[teal river]

Except maybe next to Adam Savage's...

[haughty quiver]

haha, I'd love to open a speakeasy in here

[teal river]

Hehe, that'd be awesome

Is your shop open to visitors? XD

[waxen thistle]

@haughty quiver If you're ever back in NYC, check out "Please Don't Tell" -- a speakeasy with a hidden entrance.

[teal river]

I really want to go to a speakeasy

[wind spoke]

I had to go work at the office, so I used an image of home as virtual background...

[woeful pond]

Yes, here in FL some people make their beer in the garage

[shell mason]

the Thermaltake is testing the cooland what name currently is gold what have 3d effect so it can be look like beer

[teal river]

I've neer been to the office for this job

[cinder wind]

The most common class of tasks I hear are things along the line of "When button pressed, run code function", "Every 50ms run code function", etc. Stuff that in an Arduino world would be often be done with interrupts (pin change or timer interrupt) but don't necessarily need real interrupts in CircuitPython. I'd love to make a native code library for CP that is just a "run code every N milliseconds". Since the MicroPython merge, can I do that now with mpy-cross?

[haughty quiver]

@smoky island Slappy?

[teal river]

GAH

JP HOW MANY SPOOPY THINGS DO YOU HAVE

[waxen thistle]

not enough!

[teal river]

I can only take so much spoop

[haughty quiver]

moderate, not 🔥

[teal river]

I want to overclock a Pico

[compact sandal]

Like transferring files from BBSes in the 90s with Z-modem

[shell mason]

Doctor want to overlock RP2040?

[wind spoke]

And Zoltran was super helpful with me when I wanted to use ulab.

[modern night]

Zoltan has been amazing with the ulab stuff

[teal river]

Yes XD 1GHz baby!

[nova totem]

So while I was watching the show I just got notice - my Show and Tell badge is now officially my first certified open source hardware project!

[teal river]

Yay!

[nova totem]

thanks everyone, pretty cool to have 🙂

[teal river]

I don't see any dirt on that desk

[maiden lily]

not dirty just decorated

[waxen thistle]

....cleaning? I'm confused. What does that mean? valliantly tries yet fails to hide the utter disaster around him

[modern night]

"This weekend is about cleaning the office"--Lend me your motivation, This past half year has been weekends of "I'll clean it now" and it's yet to be done

[teal river]

Scott, you need a phone that's JUST for doing stuff on stream, without your texts and passwords and other things you want to keep secret

[waxen thistle]

This. Exactly this!

[teal river]

I've been cleaning for years -- finally managed to get part of one room clear, redid desk [sortof, functional enough, but not done], and got my TV to use as a monitor for work and built a new machine!

[cinder wind]

BLE folder list is omg cool

[sly radish]

Excellent Scott!

[teal river]

This is super cool

[warm dust]

Hi fellow deep divers 👋 🤿

[teal river]

If I can't see the dirt, does it count? :P

[grand tusk]

TMI

[wind spoke]

Ok, so what is happening with CircuitPython developement when you are in vacation? Will Danh/Jeppler/? continue to do release?

[teal river]

I dunno about your area, but I got an iPhone 8 refurb for $200

... that's assumptive that you have $200

iPad works!

[tame dew]

If no one else has been inside your home in 16 months, it’s clean right?

[gusty wedge]

I have an old firefox-os phone that barely does calls 🙂

[woeful pond]

$200 wow, a bargin

[gusty wedge]

(my next one will be a phone line, and a Lora texting dev...)

[teal river]

I also got a case for $3 :D

[woeful pond]

@teal river Was that a special?

[teal river]

Phone, no, case, it was literally the last and they were just trying to get rid of leftovers since it's so "old"

[waxen thistle]

I was lucky -- during Black Friday, I got a cellular reseller (think Tracfone) copy of iPhone 6s for $30 and iPhone SE (1st gen) for $50. They're "locked", but they make great wifi devices.

Also, some of those pre-paid plans aren't all that terrible [for light use]

[teal river]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/632341/apple-iphone-8-unlocked-4g-lte-space-gray-(refurbished)-smartphone

[warm dust]

are we diving into BT workflow?

[teal river]

BLE

[warm dust]

Nice!

[wind spoke]

It seems that in the US there are a lot of iPhone user, compare to a lot of Android user in EU...

[waxen thistle]

That's a decent price for an unlocked iPhone

[teal river]

Works well enough for a secondary phone for me XD

[grand tusk]

behold, live eels

[woeful pond]

@teal river wow, thanks

[teal river]

And informs me that I was right in my thinking that I wouldn't like iOS for my primary, lol

[wind spoke]

And LadyAda seems to say that download stats from their apps explain that some stuff are only available only on iPhone.

[waxen thistle]

For something that's held 5-6 feet off the ground, one handed, carried around all day - every day ---- sure doesn't hurt to have a backup on standby.

[teal river]

Yeah... and has a battery that can become weak and die after 4-5 hours, lol

I wonder if we'll ever get to see Scott's partner :O

Does she work on CP or anything?

[simple fractal]

Is this is a desk in need of cleaning

[waxen thistle]

I still see desk....

[gusty wedge]

I giggle at what you people think it "dirty". And not, I won't show it 🙂

[tame dew]

He accidentally shared a photo she was in 😉

[teal river]

How about this desk?

[warm dust]

Oh that is still way too clean

[modern night]

failed checksum?

[teal river]

I missed that O:

[gusty wedge]

(tomorrow is dog-bath day, and after that full house cleaning...)

[tame dew]

Wow that buffer is hard to read

[teal river]

Uhoh, my handy Windows key didn't work

[warm dust]

@rapid hornet have you got the ble code in an upstream branch to test out?

[modern night]

Offset isn't getting reset on every call is it? if it is it might be hard to ever be greater than the total length (This might be the wrong question for the problem so)

[teal river]

I like Sublime too :D Still in trial tho...

[timid plover]

I was just looking at Ollie - I may need to subscribe to it
https://www.crowdsupply.com/ali-slim/ollie

[simple fractal]

lol, just arrived. now i'm distracted

[teal river]

lol

[tame dew]

Isolation is a good thing for communication interfaces.

Not so great for humans

[teal river]

I think it's confuzzled

[modern night]

can you force the command for, "give me the next chunk" that way you can see if can give you the next chunk?

[sly radish]

It's gettng chunk 493 ... what isn't being satisfied?

[teal river]

I got distracted

[waxen thistle]

Likewise here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/nrvwuw/thought_id_make_a_list_of_all_the_best_ways_to/

[upper sandal]

Huge success

[waxen thistle]

Now I'm thirsty for lemonade 😛

[teal river]

I think the "huge success" was referencing my Portal terminal, lol

[tame dew]

We should all go upvote CircuitPython

[shell mason]

nice background on terminal Doctor

[brazen quail]

How difficult is it to get CP working on a STM32 that isn't supported yet ? Is there a guide ?

[upper sandal]

yeah no, not you Scott, I mean not right now that is, but I'm sure success is coming 😉

[teal river]

It's animated too :D link in #general-chat

[gaunt plume]

🥳

[gusty wedge]

💙

[teal river]

https://tenor.com/view/sacha-baron-cohen-great-success-yay-gif-4185058

[tame dew]

Boom! Mic drop.

[modern night]

🥳

[waxen thistle]

🎉

[gusty wedge]

🦷

[warm dust]

💯

[shell mason]

[tame dew]

@rapid hornet feels the 💕

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3438

[cinder wind]

no USB?!?! impossible!

[tame dew]

Boop

[gusty wedge]

🍐 request...

[cinder wind]

YAY!

[teal river]

I wonder if you could work on CP files via a VT220 terminal

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-coding-tony-stark-coding-developer-iron-man-gif-17397669

[teal river]

I have a Stark Industries mug :D

[gusty wedge]

Does it make sense to make a glider port for the linux CLI? (says the person without a decent phone)

[wind spoke]

So we are going to put emoji in python code?

[timid plover]

Just placed my crowdsupply order for Ollie!

[tame dew]

You mean Draper Labs mug? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draper_Laboratory

[teal river]

I was gonna say "why not just use USB", but realized you could want to use BLE to modify code on something that's not easily accessible but still in BLE range

[gusty wedge]

yup.

[warm dust]

@rapid hornet have you thought of a WiFi only workflow like the ble

[teal river]

Stark Industries!

[tame dew]

Charles STARK Draper 🙂

[teal river]

hmmmm

[gaunt plume]

talking to things over wifi** is a pain** 🙂

[upper sandal]

webrepl but with a file manager

[teal river]

I like wires

[tame dew]

Just in case you didn’t know it was based on real life