live-broadcast-chat

[gaunt plume]

whoo

[rocky reef]

[open surge]

👋

[winter zinc]

[foggy pebble]

Hey everyone! Hi Liz!

[split gazelle]

playlist for all of today’s content: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjF7R1fz_OOXfOj_-jSrcGNwIXiX83DZS&si=M-q8dA_oDDn1o6Ku

[nova totem]

👋

[cinder wind]

Woohoo!

[gaunt plume]

95 min wait time for the hulk roller coaster?!

[steep mica]

you gotta wait for him to get mad before they can run the ride

[gaunt plume]

lol

[foggy pebble]

Sweet! Didn't realise theme parks shared an API for ride times. thats really cool

[hard hollow]

https://learn.adafruit.com/park-wait-time

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/munchlax-pokemon-wave-waving-bye-gif-18413078

[cinder wind]

Qualia is sort of the MacroByte to the BBC MicroBit

[foggy pebble]

What IDE do you recommend for CircuitPython?

[split gazelle]

I like Mu but there are quite a few newer options these days including the web serial editor

https://code.circuitpython.org/

[gaunt plume]

Prefer? Mu or VSCode

[cinder wind]

woohoo, abusing StemmaQT/Qwiic for non-I2C purposes!

[gaunt plume]

been there!

[cinder wind]

@hard hollow I had to step away: did you design the cases that are in the shop? they're great

[hard hollow]

https://learn.adafruit.com/qt-py-snap-fit-case

[cinder wind]

That's awesome. One of the few downsides of the QT Py is no mounting holes

[gaunt plume]

i wanted it in the shop >:)

[hard hollow]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6719906

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCDPSR3N?th=1

[rocky reef]

https://www.printables.com/model/887330-usb-media-dial/comments/1972257

https://www.printables.com/model/7153-talking-d20/comments/1972788

https://www.printables.com/model/202559-led-neon-signs/comments/1972512

https://www.printables.com/model/960868-neotrix-your-ultimate-diy-8x8-led-matrix-display

[unreal bay]

Thanks!

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for the show guys!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks fellas

[open surge]

thanks Noe & Pedro!

[hard hollow]

thanks folks!

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for haning out folks - happy circuitpython day!

[split gazelle]

dan & scott will be streaming next- if folks have questions for them about the circuitpython core please add them here!

https://youtube.com/live/MEm7Xps4Gcs

[haughty quiver]

Yay!

[cinder wind]

It's my favorite Dan & Scott!

[haughty quiver]

[inner spade]

[timid plover]

glad to hear both of your backgrounds with Adafruit!

[nova totem]

Here is a question to get things started, is it possible/will you be getting CircuitPython to run on the new RP2350 RISCV cores and not just the M33?

[vagrant flax]

Amazing!

I love the smaller scale of embedded programming

[tulip canyon]

Question: What is the milestone for 10.0? What will be added? What will be dropped?

[warm dust]

Happy CircuitPython Day!

[cinder wind]

Question for each of you: what's the coolest feature (user-facing or behind the scenes) that's happened to CircuitPython?

[vagrant flax]

It is odd that they put in 2 cores. Maybe hedging their bets against ARM in the future

[paper peak]

https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/milestones/10.0.0

[gusty wedge]

Hi from Costa Rica

I would love OTA to remain (I've been using esphome for stuff that I need OTA), but I also understand the space limitation...

[unreal bay]

Has there been any previous desire or attempt to get the LIB folder to overload frozen modules, it causes a bit of friction currently as each guide expects lib to work

[cinder wind]

oh, "...in the last year" but yeah in general too

[nova totem]

HID is really cool

[vagrant flax]

I gotta say my favorite feature is how easy it is to play high-quality audio in CircuitPython 🙌

[gaunt plume]

Q: Scott mentioned workflow. Are there any new workflow changes coming with 10.0 that you're looking forward to?

[shell mason]

like riscv-v have now some micropython support for example too

[warm dust]

How are AI tools working with the core CP codebase? Has the workflow become more productive?

[wind spoke]

When facing a non-adafruit hardware, is there a way to distinguish:

• adafruit provided port (for non adafruit hardware)
• community provided port (an individual doing the job)
• vendor provided port

How can we push vendor to do a PR for their hardware, like all the new RP2350 hardware?

[unreal bay]

Can use dev containers via GitHub, just start a codespace pointed at Circuitpython repository, it opens a code space and starts installing all requirements, with instructions in the terminal

[nova totem]

And native code modules are a lot of effort for a very small payoff (the MPY ones not building it into the core)

[tulip canyon]

Frozen modules were something I learned about very late. I'm not sure it's talked about too much in learn guides.

[shell mason]

like synths with circuit python

[brisk bone]

Question: Are you maybe planning on adding support for translations for libraries? If yes, how would that work? Would the translation be part of uf2 file?

[cinder wind]

yep

[shell mason]

[wild lotus]

Hi,
Do you know if circuit Python is being used in production in any consumer products ?
How does the licensing work ?
Thanks

[brisk bone]

Question: Among all CircuitPython supported boards (not only Adafruit developed), what is your favorite and why?

[somber obsidian]

Question: What is the status of the Raspberry Pi bare metal version? Did it ever get out of "alpha" and are there any plans to support RPi 5?

[cinder wind]

yay fellow Emacs greybeard!

[vagrant flax]

Fellow Sublime Text user!

[glass stag]

GitHub copilot functions like dark magic. It is frightening how well it works.

[somber obsidian]

"Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop."

[faint edge]

Love the idea of having a Docker container to build CircuitPython. Should be possible to pull down source code from GitHub so the build environment could be the same for different versions. Would love to contribute, and I know C++, but setting up a build environment is a bit intimidating.

[smoky island]

It's possible to have the build run inside of github actions. Check out the info here: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/7594 It's different from docker locally, but it gives you similar ability to focus on your changes more than the build process.

[unreal bay]

Frozen is very useful, it's on all boards with built in displays, but it would be lovely if sys.path[0] was lib

[cinder wind]

CircuitPython is used in the Winterbloom modular synth module Big Honking Button

[split gazelle]

and sol!

[cinder wind]

And Sol!

ahahah

[open surge]

MacroPad might be my favorite, too. 🙂

[faint edge]

Thanks, I've bookmarked that and will investigate!

[blissful magnet]

Can the RP2350 do full HDMI with additional PSRAM?

[unreal bay]

You also get Circuitpython-stubs installable from pip, gets rid of the squiggles errors (your editor then knows Circuitpython). You can also set the board to get pin names correct

[cinder wind]

I think this is one of the biggest hurdles new users don't understand about CircuitPython: you don't need an IDE, you can use any code editor, even notepad.exe in a pinch. But having a good answer to "What's the CircuitPython IDE?" would really help them

[strong acorn]

...and the serial monitor being so critical, along with an editor

[cinder wind]

Viper: https://viper-ide.org/
and https://code.circuitpython.org/

[faint edge]

How about the RP2350 supporting the TTL RGB-666 displays?

[cinder wind]

Yeah, it would be very nice to have text editor + serial terminal + circup into one app, which would be an "IDE" to most folk

[unreal bay]

Maybe the larger 80 pin versions of the rp2350. Curious what Scott or Ladyada thinks

[blissful magnet]

So overclocking FTW?

[vagrant flax]

640x480 on a microcontroller is nuts

[inner spade]

One of the best features of CircuitPython is the simple workflow and ease of prototyping. Had just a few hours before last night’s band rehearsal to throw together a stereo sound effects device. Easy peasy.

[nova totem]

testing/prototyping in the REPL is the best thing ever compared to compile/deploy/test

[timid plover]

what tools are you using to "watch" usb traffic ?

[shell mason]

the deep divers unite

[glass stag]

What, TWO deep dives!!!!!!!

[faint edge]

Thanks guys, that was fun! Keep up the good work!

[vagrant flax]

Thanks Dan and Scott! Awesome work on CircuitPython!

[open surge]

Thanks Dan & Scott!

[tulip canyon]

Thank you both

[warm dust]

Thanks!

[timid plover]

thank you

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[old surge]

Thank you!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/submerge-breaking-bobby-bones-diving-scuba-diving-bobby-bones-gif-21963649

[rapid hornet]

🤿

[rapid hornet]

I go to my beagle generally

[smoky island]

Thanks Dan and Scott for the great chat!

[paper peak]

we use wireshark, and also Beagles, and Thach, the TinyUSB developer uses a Teradyne (?maybe) hw watcher. The software that comes with the hardware devices is the make or break for the utlities of those.

[sand lotus]

☕️ thank you great q&a

[split gazelle]

next will be Guy Dupont! https://youtube.com/live/cJ2dCxfGfyk

[rapid hornet]

@smoky island you should make your stream in youtube and link my stream to yours

[paper peak]

There have been some open-source projects to help with this, but they also depend on good software, and the combinations haven't quite gotten off the ground

[cinder wind]

Thank you Dan & Scott!

hey it's that Guy!

[tulip kestrel]

how's it going on making the feather rp2040 with USB host have the USB host fully functional?

[rapid hornet]

As far as I know, it is working

@steep mica How many times did you walk the dog?

those are a critical four times though I'm sure

[somber obsidian]

Is the next version to allow the dog to press the button!? 🙂

[cinder wind]

My favorite @steep mica project is his guitar pedal for mouse & keyboard

[light moon]

the mcdonalds prizes?

[vagrant flax]

Super cool!

[rapid hornet]

that's so cool

who was the artist?

[open surge]

Halsey

[somber obsidian]

It was "autotune" kazoo I think for me. (I wasn't quite so sure about the recent tongue thing mind...)

[cinder wind]

ahahah "... this was an old fish, the springs don't work as well as they used to"

[nova totem]

Capacitors, and if so, more capacitors. That's all I know

Ferrite beads/clips may help too

[cinder wind]

and the biggest capacitor, a separate battery for the motor

[vagrant flax]

Is that a lunchbox project I see 👀

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-flipper-flupper-dalphin-flip-floppity-gif-27429572

[cinder wind]

Guy's videos are amazing too: https://www.youtube.com/@GuyDupont/videos

[inner spade]

Lady Ada’s motor caps noise filter FAQ: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-motor-shield?view=all#faq-1315678

[vagrant flax]

😂

Thanks @steep mica, awesome stuff

[smoky island]

So much neat stuff. Thanks for sharing Guy!

[open surge]

thanks Guy!

[hard hollow]

Inspiring projects!

[inner spade]

Very fascinating. Thanks Guy!

[steep mica]

Thank you all!!!! and especially folks pushing CircuitPython forward.

Here's that portfolio in case you missed it, and contact/socials are down below:
https://www.guycombinator.net/

[split gazelle]

thank you Guy!

up next is melissa's chat about the code editor design challenges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfCRQ-V_-Mo

[tulip canyon]

[FLAGGED] [DUPLICATE] - lol great stuff!

Thanks Melissa

[wind spoke]

Very interesting @sage aspen , I understand why you went to recording, and I did not suspect the among of challenge you encountered.

[sage aspen]

Thanks

[smoky island]

Fascinating insight into the editor. Thank you Melissa

[sage aspen]

You're welcome

[cinder wind]

wow code.circuitpython.org has gotten so good!

[split gazelle]

next up is paul and tod from bootloader podcast! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTl1KA2MPxI

https://thebootloader.net/

[gaunt plume]

👋

[vagrant flax]

👋

[old surge]

👋

[somber obsidian]

Wow, over a year old with synth.io and I've still not really played with it properly! 🙂

[tulip canyon]

Shout out to @cinder wind CircuitPython tips and tricks. So useful.
https://github.com/todbot/circuitpython-tricks

[nova totem]

I keep wanting to get back into synthio again

[split gazelle]

same, i really want to do more with it

[hard hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/synthvr-dancing-synth-jamming-gif-20136246

[nova totem]

never enough RAM or flash for samples

[split gazelle]

love the animations on the display

[nova totem]

1/4 second and I knew what the sound was

[vagrant flax]

That's great lol

[nova totem]

That's cool. I had an MP3 at least 32kb if that

[tulip canyon]

Thanks guys

[vagrant flax]

Thanks Paul and Tod!

[hard hollow]

great projects!

[split gazelle]

thank you @open surge && @cinder wind !

[cinder wind]

Thanks! Link to the little drum machine project is https://github.com/todbot/picotouch_drumcard

[open surge]

Here is my SongMatrix project: https://github.com/prcutler/songmatrix

[old surge]

Very cool! Thank you both

[split gazelle]

up next is brent & trevor! https://youtu.be/8NFsq-t7ypQ

[open surge]

I accidentally included my IO key in a git push last week and GitHub wouldn't even take the commit, which was kind of cool

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! CircuitPython Day 2024 chat with Ladyada
https://youtu.be/2aiPvFoRHhE

[cinder wind]

Thanks! PyLeap and the other Bluetooth iOS apps have helped me so much get BLE stuff working

[open girder]

https://adafruit.com
16% OFF SALE! CODE: CPD16
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[tulip kestrel]

did you say that the 16% off sale don't work with buying raspberry pi 4 modal b?

[open girder]

yah, there are not discounts on all things (like pi units)

[desert orbit]

Happy CircuitPython day! 😄

[cinder wind]

"What is my purpose?" "You melt butter"

[gray obsidian]

And nobody anymore knows Grafcet

[cinder wind]

Do all the boards! in 6 minutes

[inner spade]

Q: Are there plans to upscale the PyBadge/PyGamer board form factor with improved processors and displays? The CircuitPython performance improvements for gaming would be impressive.

[gray obsidian]

Actually, maybe a grafcet to python tool…

[open surge]

And PyPortals too. 🙂

[regal field]

recommendations for starter kit board

[cinder wind]

Lolin S2 Mini is pretty good, I use them a lot

[vagrant flax]

ooh yeah LoRa is a great idea for that

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[gray obsidian]

Thanks!

[regal field]

thanks :))

[gray obsidian]

Like!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks @open girder Happy CircuitPython Day!

[strong acorn]

Invector has an LTE feather

[vagrant flax]

Thanks LadyAda and Mr LadaAda!

[waxen bough]

👋 Great job!

[open girder]

THANK YOU ALL

[split gazelle]

next is maker chat with Charlyn! https://youtu.be/wHs9ddpc2zs?si=BVV0mykuhvmXYE7e

[cinder wind]

captouch sensor jewlery! that's really cool Charlyn!

[vagrant flax]

That headband is sweet!

[cinder wind]

wow yeah that headband is amazing

[tulip canyon]

I'm having storage envy

[waxen bough]

I'd wear that!

[vagrant flax]

looks mystical 🧙

[waxen bough]

Third Eye! (Doctor Strange!) (Edit: Ah yes, Eye of Agamotto!)

[old surge]

Or perhaps the Py of Agamotto?

[waxen bough]

Cap Touch is perfect for jewelry! Kudos Charlyn!

[vagrant flax]

I've definitely seen that guide, very cool!

[desert orbit]

that bao is incredible! 🥹

[vagrant flax]

YESS I love that wifi cube

I cannot believe you fit all that in there

[waxen bough]

The fairy makes me want to get back into BOTW!

That cube is awesome. It reminds me of a toy I had years ago that required rotating faces to the top...

[split gazelle]

Charlyn and i went a little over time with our chat and everything she was showing was so amazing i couldn't bring myself to cut anything so feel free to pause to watch JP's stream that is happening live now: https://youtube.com/live/7KHxfP1rg1o

[smoky island]

Super neat interface for the alarm. Great projects, thank you for sharing!

[cinder wind]

All your projects are so great, Charlyn!

[open surge]

Thanks Charlyn!

[tulip canyon]

Fantastic projects Charlyn. Great use of that led acrylic

[waxen bough]

https://tenor.com/view/not-worthy-waynes-world-bow-praise-gif-4881098

Watching Charlyn I keep thinking: "We're not worthy..."

[ivory flax]

Hi John. .... Oh Boy 2024. Good stuff

[split gazelle]

glad the cp countdown made it on the tv 🐍

[vagrant flax]

Thanks Charlyn, awesome projects 😄

[split gazelle]

husb238 is one of my favorite breakouts

[tulip canyon]

Hot pluggin 15v

[raven wave]

https://tenor.com/view/mdr-gif-18285088358737753438

[tulip canyon]

😯

[vivid ore]

Not all voltages are supported by all chargers.

I believe some chargers offer 18V, but aside from that I think you have all the standard voltages.

[split gazelle]

husb238 supports 5, 9, 12, 15, 18 and 20V. you can request any of those but the output depends on your adapter

[cinder wind]

Ask for 1.21 Gigavolts!

[old surge]

As far as I know, it's a negotiation between the charger and the power dummy; the charger advertises what's available and the dummy requests what you've programmed

[unreal bay]

Apart from usb PD, you get PPS which allows minute adjustment of voltage in 0.1v increments

PPS = Programmable Power Supply
https://www.belkin.com/support-article/?articleNum=318878

[old surge]

Hence the e-mark on this cable - which sets the advertised power https://www.adafruit.com/product/5968

[open surge]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2024/07/29/circuitpython-day-is-august-16-2024

[tulip canyon]

It's pinned in #general-chat
11am 3D Hangouts with Noe & Pedro
1pm Maker Chat: Guy Dupont
2pm CircuitPython Project Highlights with Paul Cutler & Tod Kurt
4pm JP’s Workshop
5pm Deep Dive with Scott
6pm CircuitPython Game Jam with Tim

[cinder wind]

Question for @haughty quiver: you planning to put that cool power supply in a case?

[vivid ore]

Hmmmm. Wonder if I can turn that into the basis of a DIY benchtop supply...

Probably can stack the INA219 and the HUSB238 for additional space-saving...

[rapid hornet]

what is your favorite size of swirly grid? what would you change about it?

[unreal bay]

JP do you have a favourite project (yours or others) from this year?
Also wondering if you're hoping for any specific added features or technology for CircuitPython in the next 12 months?

[old surge]

I bet the qtpy case would work, too @haughty quiver
https://www.adafruit.com/product/6002

[inner spade]

Snap on cases for the swirly board family would be nice.

[cinder wind]

Are there any proto-boards that are made for swirly grid? Does the hole pitch in the perma-proto match?

[tulip canyon]

A power rail maybe?

[old surge]

https://store-usa.arduino.cc/products/plug-and-make-kit?srsltid=AfmBOoq6zlkGWS_wb1fJFJrSSRWqv_rYmtOOv1nyWx46-bPf9tAxxsAw

[rapid hornet]

One swirly request was to make the holes big enough to put a stemma qt connector through

[cinder wind]

AND THE LEGO HEADS

[old surge]

Love the form factor that allows a mounted board plus breadboard side-by-side

[simple sierra]

Are there any innovative / emergent input components (i.e. tactical switches, 5-way tactical switch, optical sensors, etc.) that you're excited about?

[unreal bay]

Thanks JP, wonderfully complete answer!

[old surge]

Maybe the 10x5 with the center 6 'squares' in the middle row removed for cable routing?

[tulip canyon]

More likely obscure gaming input from the 80s'

[unreal bay]

The swirly grid usually allows 2-3 screws even on boards that don't fit. Then I use spacers just attached to the board in the remaining holes for support

[cinder wind]

Yes, endless pots! would love to try those out

[spiral vale]

The infinite pots are 2 pots inside doing some sine/cosine thing (need to look that up)

[unreal bay]

Thanks JP

[rapid hornet]

I want to do lego collab projects with JP 🙂

[old surge]

I want to see it!

[simple sierra]

Never heard of an endless potentiometer looking it up—thank you!

[nova totem]

ALL THE LEGO

[tulip canyon]

Thanks JP

[smoky island]

Thanks JP! Interesting projects in the workshop.

[open surge]

thanks JP!

[old surge]

Thanks JP!

[haughty quiver]

thank you all too!

[inner spade]

Thanks JP!

[cinder wind]

I have a few notes here: https://gist.github.com/todbot/cd964282dd3c2599a629f5ecf5d1ca98 but I've not played with one yet IRL

[spiral vale]

more googling on the endless pots - stack exchange has this:

If you turn it, you get two sawtooth signals that are 180° out of phase, so when one output is in its “dead zone”, you can use the other one instead to determine the position.

[vivid ore]

Sounds about right

[cinder wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWAkMlhX5rw

[timid plover]

an echo - oops - two youtobes running

[old surge]

👋

[unreal bay]

We see you!

sounds fine here

[open surge]

I don't hear an echo, sounds good

[raven wave]

Had to refresh the page for the Twitch stream

[brazen grove]

shalom

[desert orbit]

👋

[cinder wind]

Thanks Anne and Liz!

[unreal bay]

10pm here (UK), but I got a head start on missing sleep last night 😴

@"The 3d tech guy" The Adafruit Clue is same footprint as microbit, but never used either myself. Maybe check out https://learn.adafruit.com

[timid plover]

I'm 'subscribed' to the rp2350 metro patiently 🙂

indeed - my pimoroni board has "shipped"....

[old surge]

Fingers crossed for the B chip Grand Central 🤞🤞

[vivid ore]

Can we get an RP2350 PyGamer...?

[unreal bay]

Saw the p4 devkit dropped, but came with a warning (probably not quite fit for final purpose in all ways)

[haughty quiver]

#tangent

we're here for it!

[unreal bay]

He comes back eventually 😁 full circle usually

[vivid ore]

70 GPIO. woah.

I think it's 62 exposed

[tulip canyon]

``80 pins should
be enough for anybody.'' - Bill Gates

[old surge]

I'd be happy with a B chip Metro, too. Gimme all the boards

[timid plover]

can the build process catch the missing functions ?

[brazen grove]

I'm almost finished with an esp32-s3 handheld

[brazen grove]

#show-and-tell message

[eager matrix]

Hi Scott. I'm a bit late becasue I was doing some tech work for a cool art project I'm working on with painter.

[brazen grove]

I love tangents

[raven wave]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-end-of-my-rant-hunter-engel-agufish-that-was-my-complaint-that-all-i-had-to-say-gif-15603940459312205214

[cinder wind]

Yep I used the standard Pico2 build of CircuitPython on a SparkFun Pro Micro 2350 and Tiny 2350 without any issue

[haughty quiver]

hacker

[brazen grove]

you wouldn't download CircuitPython

[haughty quiver]

lol

[shell mason]

arcade circuitpython handheld

[wind spoke]

Great if Pimoroni boards are supported, because this was the closer/faster I could get (even if Brexit import tax hit me again).

[unreal bay]

the fact the esp32-S3 can come in 32mb flash version (8mb psram?) is just crazy, probably unnecessary for most (and more expensive than other S3 models), but still a useful thing for some

[cinder wind]

oh hey @rapid hornet the status LED on the Tiny 2350 is a RGB LED on GPIOs 18,19,20 and it's active low

[unreal bay]

Got board.BUTTON? Having same named functional pins (like button or neopixel) working across boards makes code so tranferable.
I love CircuitPython

oh USER_SW i see it. I guess I'm too used to ESP with BOOT0 button on them all

[rapid hornet]

tiny2350

[unreal bay]

They had batch1, think they get more chips next week, but maybe as late as september

[cinder wind]

yeah Pimoroni ran out. it's a rp2350 B

[haughty quiver]

🐝

[unreal bay]

no, i2c and debug on top, then extra large connector underneath

[cinder wind]

Yep works! But no board.SCL and board.SDA. So I can't play my tunes out the StemmaQT port 😀 Also, I don't see board.I2C() or board.STEMMA_I2C()

[brazen grove]

it's a display connector

[cinder wind]

BOOT button is GP45

[unreal bay]

Yay for keeping the buttons away from the pins, so hard to use if they're by the edge when I've stuck stacking header pins on the board

[rapid hornet]

pico plus 2

[tulip canyon]

wled

[open surge]

FastLED

[cinder wind]

Also @rapid hornet thanks for making all the GPIOs available in microcontroller.pin. It used to not be the case

[vagrant flax]

WLED

[unreal bay]

WLED: https://kno.wled.ge/ (great url)

[open surge]

that's it, I'm wrong. 🙂

[timid plover]

thanks Scott

[tulip canyon]

One of the greatest use of sub domain origin

[unreal bay]

Thanks Scott!

[desert orbit]

thanks scott, happy circuitpython day! 😄

[open surge]

thanks Scott! I've always been curious about board defs, was a good learning experience

[tulip canyon]

Thanks Scott

[raven wave]

Thanks for the presentation!

[cinder wind]

Thanks @rapid hornet !

[inner spade]

Thanks Scott!

[rapid hornet]

thanks everyone!

[cinder wind]

looks good. status LED works and stemma i2c works

[rapid hornet]

🎉

[cinder wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdyMUP6yZbw

[cinder wind]

oh wait, looks like PSRAM is not turned on for Pico Plus 2. It has 8MB, gc.mem_free() is reporting 433360

[unreal bay]

hey tim 👋

[rapid hornet]

What pin is CS for it?

[vagrant flax]

👋

[brazen grove]

salaam

[cinder wind]

no clue, no schematic

[tulip canyon]

Pretty neat watching a build, delivery, and test in real-time.

[inner spade]

👋

[open surge]

👋

[old surge]

👋

[tulip canyon]

👋

[raven wave]

👋

[rapid hornet]

found it in pico-sdk

[brazen grove]

arcanoid

a lot of stuttering for me

[rapid hornet]

youtube is smooth for me

[raven wave]

pretty sure the first instance of the game was on the Atari in 1976 and was called Breakout (written by the Woz)

(and the video/audio is smooth on Twitch)

[tulip canyon]

78 was super breakout
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Breakout

would a game like this benefit from monotonic_ns vs monotonic

[cinder wind]

https://github.com/FoamyGuy/CircuitPython_Rainbow_Breakout
Tim's code is always so nicely organized. If you're looking for code to crib from, check his repos. Thanks Tim for putting all this code out there!

[brazen grove]

no no, you don't remove the squares inside the parens, you square the thing you compare it to

you need the squares for euclidean distance

so instead of sqrt(x*x + y*y) < d you do (x*x + y*y) < d*d

[tulip canyon]

Inspired by your last stream I set out to start exploting Delaunay triangulation. So far just random points and triangles...

[cinder wind]

oooo fancy new .intersects()

[unreal bay]

Ah maths, so many complex ideas, but very elegant once the penny drops

[tulip canyon]

anchor point also the rotation point?

[rapid hornet]

speed looks good!

[cinder wind]

why use .anchor_point & .anchor_positiontuples instead of setting an .x & .y?

ah it's kind of resolution-indepedence

oh! yes you need to know size of text box

right right

[light moon]

love the Baltics great folk music

[inner spade]

And simple text justification.

[tulip canyon]

G A M E O V E R

[vivid ore]

Is there a way to map your own buttons with a generic dev board?

[nova totem]

Pretty sure Unity does something like the constructor and also an init function, like two parts at startup

[unreal bay]

better for isolation + testing to not affect anything with constructor

[nova totem]

Other way I've seen done is a reset type function that can be called upon start or lives lost or similar

[cinder wind]

Add a hard mode where the bricks try to slightly move out of the way

[tulip canyon]

Spaceship going across the top

[smoky island]

Stream probably cut out. I saw OBS say that some frames dropped. Should be back within a moment.

[rapid hornet]

weird for me

[unreal bay]

back now (youtube) - but i refreshed

[rapid hornet]

yup, looking better

[tulip canyon]

👍

[inner spade]

I’ve found it helpful to place a text label on-screen to show the current game state. I also stopped using numerical values for state definitions and use a string containing the state description instead. Helps when troubleshooting, which is something I do a lot of.

[cinder wind]

sure wish we had enums...

Thanks Tim!

[old surge]

Thank you for sharing!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks @smoky island

[raven wave]

Thank you!

[unreal bay]

Thanks Tim, great stream for CircuitPython Day

[smoky island]

Thanks everyone! Hope you all have a great night and weekend.

[inner spade]

Thanks for the stream!

[tulip canyon]

Where's the after party?
Thanks all for an inspiring day of creating.
Hopefully 2025 we see CircuitPython Week. (I mean sharks get a week, why not snakes)

[rapid hornet]

I'm using them in circuitmatter so we may want to add them to the core

[shell mason]

great circuitpython day https://tenor.com/view/emerge-jetpack-water-im-here-from-the-depths-gif-13823709

[smoky island]

I am getting started for the morning continuing work on the game from last night. You can follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ov1_COr9U

[unreal bay]

Hey Tim 👋 What's today? Paused/Gameover label and possible Multi-ball?

Oh yes! I was wondering about the paddle eventually firing the ball off at more of an angle if on the last or first 25% of the paddle

[unreal bay]

Wow, powerball mode

Every 1000 points, 5seconds of powerball

[light stump]

Hi foamyguy and all cool people, stopping into the stream to say hi and Happy CircuitPython Day.

[unreal bay]

can't see game window any more

oh it just sawpped

[inner spade]

Perhaps the first ball movement should be towards the paddle rather than the bricks.

[unreal bay]

Maybe show the dotted lines for tragectory, and the ball start position is random but fixed, so the paddle only controls start angle

[inner spade]

… and set the bell to a random trajectory on startup.

[unreal bay]

on change of angle at start you avoid 0, i.e. can adjust by +- 1 degree but it skips 0

[unreal bay]

Thanks Tim, super cool project and stream

[inner spade]

Thanks! Fun!

[open girder]

330pm ET TODAY! Desk of Ladyada - PLEO Dinosaaaaaaauuur! https://youtu.be/7SAL4818ekc

Reviving a 2006 PLEO dinosaur toy found during a move. It's a labor of love with a known issue: short battery life. The original battery pack no longer charges, requiring a rebuild using tabbed AA batteries for soldering, as there's no spot welder available.

[open girder]

👋🦕

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! Desk of Ladyada - PLEO Dinosaaaaaaauuur! https://youtu.be/7SAL4818ekc

[pearl shoal]

I think I worked in the factory where that battery was made

Gates Power in Gainesville FL

I worked there in 1993

Bought by energizer while I was there

They made nicad and nimh there (I was an intern tracking quality control)

[echo canopy]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[open surge]

No JP this week

[echo canopy]

Ohhh Thank you , I was wondering

[hard hollow]

☕ ⚡ 👋

[vagrant flax]

Good morning! 👋

[rocky reef]

good morning folks!

3DHangouts Episode 451 LIVE! LED Noodle Lamp, Servo Mounts and Zombie Hand https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live Today's coupon code “prototypes” gets you 16% off your order! https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[wise iris]

good morning, all

[upbeat coral]

I've never been considered "Lovely"

[urban gale]

Hi all!

[rocky reef]

Today's coupon code “prototypes” gets you 16% off your order!

HUSB238 USB-C Power Delivery
https://www.adafruit.com/product/5991

[vagrant flax]

That switch is rad!

Oh nice I have one of those little domes too, been looking for a project for it forever lol

[upbeat coral]

Vacuum tube look - exactly.

[urban gale]

checking out jlcpcb. did not know they had a routing-only service

[upbeat coral]

Visual effect for a synth/midi to make it look like an old school tube amp.

[waxen bough]

The video says the coupon code is 10%, but youtube and discord say 16%

[vagrant flax]

Saw someone mention being new to 3D printing in the youtube chat, and also thought others might be interested in this: For a few more days Elegoo is having a sale and they have one for 10 rolls of filament (4 black, 2 white, 2 red, and 2 blue) for $100 https://us.elegoo.com/products/pla-filament-1-75mm-4-colors-10kg

[rocky reef]

https://ultimachine.com/collections/pla

[unreal bay]

Quite like a lego mount / faceplate for the reverse tft feathers, so you could lego mount them and have it look perfect.
Probably the propmaker too (just mount)

[vagrant flax]

oooh are those QT Py mount 3D designs available for us to print our own? 😮

[unreal bay]

maybe just a baseplate with only corners for feather, like your servo one, a bit like the snap in corners in the qtpy case, but enough height for 5mm longer pins

[hard hollow]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP2941P9?th=1

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6257085/makes

[upbeat coral]

My only eSun spool must have been a monday morning startup spool. Looks like an enebriated chap did it with a hand crank.

Prints okay if you get it to stick to the bed.

[viral sail]

Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow . See you all tonight.

[urban gale]

Thanks all!

[upbeat coral]

Thanks for taking time for us.

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for the show guys! Have a good day!

[rocky reef]

thanks for haning out folks!

[hard hollow]

thanks folks cya tonight!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/made-you-look-luke-skywalker-mark-hamill-star-wars-fooled-you-gif-11326162814042345411

[unreal bay]

Thanks!

[mint mauve]

sorry, but that code doesn't seem to be working

[sand lotus]

Sometimes the code only works during the livestream. If it's not working then the discount code has expired. There will be another discount code tonight during ask an engineer (if they're doing AAE tonight).

[winter zinc]

In the live video they posted the code as "prototype", no s at the end

[sand lotus]

it helps to spell it correctly 😉

and it says 10% not 16%. i think the 16% was from Friday's Circuit Python Day. a special event that only happens once a year. usually discount codes are 10%.

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project! https://streamyard.com/2f2nfb3e6m & WE ARE LIVE in BROOKLYN! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/mmqrncofoEU

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[open surge]

good evening

[nova totem]

Evening everyone!

[sand lotus]

good evening ☕

[tulip canyon]

Hey All! New Graphics looks good

[cinder wind]

hey it's Jayy!

[sand lotus]

I love the way it bonks its hands together. Cute.

[cinder wind]

so it's a cat? sometimes listens to you 🙂

[nova totem]

My robots take over my time in making robots, that's about it

[snow quiver]

Hello!

[tulip canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/trip-fall-down-fall-so-tired-too-tired-gif-14836788883428479761

[ashen dove]

I'm waiting for Optimus!

[sand lotus]

or.... 5 independent cat robots that form together to make 1 giant cat robot.

[cinder wind]

aww I had such high hopes for netbooks

[nova totem]

I think I have one, somewhere.

[tulip canyon]

@open girder You are now close to NYU ITP. Dan Shiffman is having a Nature of Code book release soon, you should go visit.

[open girder]

@tulip canyon oh rad!

[snow quiver]

haha what a fun demo

[sand lotus]

that's super creative todbot, I've never seen something like that.

[tulip canyon]

Looks really performant. Frames per second?

[nova totem]

With the pico2 I kinda want to crank the synthio 12 limit up to see what it can do

[viral sail]

Awesome projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.

[tulip canyon]

Thanks all, great projects

[upbeat coral]

Thanks to all who shared.

[cinder wind]

Me too!

The crazy bashed out code for my little algorithmic music toy: https://gist.github.com/todbot/7dc50b8de8db03638a9a291e9132b488

[nova totem]

Did you try the display any faster then 32Mhz?

[sand lotus]

display.refresh( target_frames_per_second = 20 )

That's still really smooth for 20fps target.

[cinder wind]

Yes, but when you request 32MHz, you get 25MHz on the Pico 2. If you ask for 40MHz you get 37.5MHz. I'm currently running it at 25 MHz beccause I was getting some supervisor crashes and I want to diagnose that a bit (CirPy on RP2350 is still pretty fresh)

[sand lotus]

That seems a bit odd.

[nova totem]

Cool, with luck I have a couple Pico2s showing up tomorrow

[cinder wind]

There have been other DMA issues with RP2350 so this could be a similar problem

(And doing both 44 kHz I2S and 30 MHz SPI is asking a lot 🙂

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 8/21/2024 LIVE! https://youtu.be/XORaTp2laJk

10% discount code, code is: fivealive ends at midnight NYC time - SHOP NOW! https://www.adafruit.com

[viral sail]

Neat new intro.

[sand lotus]

looks great

[tulip canyon]

chromatic aberration is cool

[cinder wind]

new graphics are 🔥🔥🔥

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[cinder wind]

Pleo is so cute! Too bad it didn't take over the toy market

aw dang we missed 666 ?!

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[crisp trench]

The revolution against ads.

Can I get a vegan burger? :[

[still bane]

question: Any plans to have a USB Host port (or shield) for the Metro RP2350? Something that could be combined with the 2.8" TFT touch shield (#1651) would be awesome.

[cinder wind]

Got my TL074 stash 📦

[dim knot]

Great Scott Gadgets Cynthion - All-in-One USB Multitool https://www.adafruit.com/product/6005

[crisp trench]

💰👀

[dim knot]

Adafruit FPC Breakout for Raspberry Pi 5 DSI or RP2350 HSTX - 22 Pin 0.5mm https://www.adafruit.com/product/6014

[crisp trench]

I need to get that dual nvme add on. I only got the single one.

[dim knot]

Raspberry Pi 5 - 2 GB RAM https://www.adafruit.com/product/6007

[crisp trench]

!!!!! Thank you!!!

[dim knot]

Raspberry Pi Zero 2W with Header https://www.adafruit.com/product/6008

[nova totem]

@open girder Question: Have you thought about getting someone with museum curating experience to set up your tech museum? It is my brother's field so I hear him talk about it and I know he has been to NYC for training and there are a lot of skilled people there in that area.

[waxen bough]

That looks like that will be my new ender 3v2 computer.

[mint heart]

Has anyone worked with auracast? I'd like to interface with some hearing aides which are auracast enabled. Nrf52840 does not seem new enough. But nrf5340 looks like the winner. Any thoughts from others experiences?

[open girder]

https://www.burgervillage.com/

[crisp trench]

@adafruit I'm part of the skate community here 🛼. Wondering what's the smallest round screen you have. I have some ideas to trick out custom skates. 🤔

!!!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 - thank you!!

[cinder wind]

GC9A01 is the round screen used by a lot of hackers

[abstract badge]

What's the lowest cost way to have a processor that does Ethernet and some form of high speed GPIO? I want to use 2 of them to build a data diode

[echo canopy]

Question—- any plans for a dual ESP32 (variant) board , connected by I2C/or serial … one could be thread / matter and another for Adafruit IO or something else

Thanks

[crisp trench]

Thank you!!

[nova totem]

Those screens come in lots of form factors too, they're so much fun

[cinder wind]

Some demos in CircuitPython using that screen: https://github.com/todbot/CircuitPython_GC9A01_demos

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌖

[crisp trench]

🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[tulip canyon]

Thanks Adafruit, have a great week

[upbeat coral]

Thanks for taking time for us

[waxen bough]

👋

[abstract badge]

Thanks!

[cinder wind]

Thanks Limor! Thanks pt! Love the new motion graphics

[mint heart]

Thank you folks,
I'll check out the nrf forums. Looks doable, I'm guessing power, clock, dac, and nrf5340 on a board will do it. The signia dongle starts at $500, so if I can pull it off less than $500, its a win.

[tulip canyon]

Late question but PT are you using Maxon Red Giant tools for video? Just curious.

[spiral vale]

Is JP off this week?

[open surge]

Correct, JP is off this week

[rapid hornet]

<@&846780953275006976> I’m going to stream two hours early tomorrow at noon pacific. I’ve got family plans later in the afternoon

[rapid hornet]

<@&846780953275006976> At my desk now and eating lunch. Will probably start before noon once I'm ready.

[rapid hornet]

<@&846780953275006976>

streaming now

[timid plover]

oh my - thanks

[brazen grove]

🐷 oink!

[sand lotus]

good afternoon ☕

[winter zinc]

☕

[unreal bay]

Wow, early deep dive, what a treat!

[brazen grove]

bad micro:bit, sit!

[sand lotus]

tried visiting adafruit forums a couple mins ago and they have a human captcha in place right now. unsure how long that will be for.

temporary caveat when trying to recommend people to visit the forums for support.

[unreal bay]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2024/08/23/under-attack-please-stand-by-forums/

[sand lotus]

I already came up with an api example for status since they shared that... 15 mins and voila.

whenever i see those i'm just like please no motorcycles, street lights, or sidewalks.

[inner spade]

Pick only those squares that make you feel hungry. It’s lunchtime here.

[sand lotus]

one way that could defeat midjourney is to have nothing but fingers and tell people to count the fingers. ai is horrible with fingers for some reason.

[turbid hill]

How is the work on the RP2350 going, eagerly awaiting my pico 2

[sand lotus]

yeah "this should be easy" are famous last words that end up in an 8 hour rabbit hole.

[turbid hill]

jeff greeling talked about low ppower

Is Adafruit going to make a board around the RP2350A, the brother to one on the pico 2

ahh, the bigger one has more gpio and some other extras

[sand lotus]

yeah i'm waiting for the feather and already have some 8mb psram chips to solder on. 🙂

[unreal bay]

Could be a cool use for CI... Have it pick last 3 major versions, builds firmware + file system image for all 3, runs the test case via wokwi CI, then reports which work, then picking the earliest broken commit and continue bisecting + adding to report. Eventually stopping at 500 bisects or some timeout or successful identification

Have seen the esp team using it for reporting idf changes, they have a simple print flash/ram/stack size to serial and wokwi returns that data to CI after test runs, and CI generates a nice table of ram+flash changes for all esp chips on any PR.

[lyric frost]

That's my route, If I need to switch checkouts, I create a new folder and fresh clone :/

[unreal bay]

Urish prides himself on having the simulation be accurate (as far as possible). He's quick to fix anything that isn't the same on a real board.

[glad mortar]

hey hey

[turbid hill]

For the question about LCD character displays, here is a photo of one plus 4 variants of I2C and SPI. The ones on the left are generic, and those on the right are two variants from Adafruit; the blue is older, and the black is newer. The displays can have a long row or short row of headers, and most of these displays operate the same way.

[glad mortar]

more build system work?

ah gotcha, right its in the title 😄

[turbid hill]

Bisect feels like a class in geometry, what is it referring to in a code sense?

[lyric frost]

It's a binary search through commits for the error

[turbid hill]

Would not a test harness written for the areas of the code help, kinda like java, so when you update the code the test is run against the section of code to make sure you did not break things

[lyric frost]

from the port folder?

[turbid hill]

I hear that there has been a jump in the emulated MCU that now exists for various MCUs.

is that listing in the order of new to old or old to new

[unreal bay]

git log --graph ?

git log --oneline --graph --tags

[turbid hill]

since you are in less you can do / for forward search term and ? reverse search term

Murphy law when demo something new before a audience it will go bad

I am going to mention at work this function of git

[lyric frost]

Was definitely helpful, thanks Scott 😁

[turbid hill]

was very interesting

[sand lotus]

Have a great weekend everyone! Thank you for the stream.

[unreal bay]

Thanks Scott 🤿 have a great weekend all!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/extreme-jet-pack-water-gif-3473814

[rapid hornet]

thanks all!

[smoky island]

I am getting started for the morning now, taking a look at the M5Stack Dial device. You can follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn1mlDqAO8g or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[sand lotus]

good morning ☕

you can size a window with a batch script. don't ask me the syntax.

[unreal bay]

Heya, and +1 for lvgl bindings on circuitpython. after v10 maybe?

Same, but I do have to look at lvgl soon for other things

open installer can do the bootloader install too (usually)

[sand lotus]

web flasher is only bin as far as i know, same for esptool in python.

[unreal bay]

https://github.com/adafruit/tinyuf2/releases/download/0.19.0/tinyuf2-m5stack_stamps3-0.19.0.zip

[sand lotus]

only chrome has web serial

default baud is fine

[unreal bay]

unlikely to work using web flasher (for bootloader install) from the board page for this board until bootloader version it points at is updated, likely if the zip download link fails then web flasher would fail. Oh I see the name is wrong for the firmware, maybe they'll be a dial board def in tinyuf2, or maybe they point the bootloader to stamp version.
Changing baud rate usually before, but it might adjust if it offers the dropdown still

[sand lotus]

same thing happens with the 4" 720x720 circular qualia display

[unreal bay]

I'd love a mechanism to show some default code.py (board specific), like a visual helloworld of the features / board factory demo

[sand lotus]

i watched it last night. good video.

[unreal bay]

a bunch. Maybe there's a board_examples repo that you can circup install board_examples and it grabs your folder of examples or something, then users/board-manufacturers could PR in their board examples if appropriate

[nova totem]

You need audio so it makes that clicky sound

[sand lotus]

Look into tft featherwing. It uses irq touch.

I think it uses stmpe touch library. Will depend on that.

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[sand lotus]

There are round qualia touchscreen. Maybe something like that.

[clever summit]

I have been busy the last two weeks moving into my new house.

[sand lotus]

Guess just look into focal touch. Irq is an alternative to x,y touch.

Yes irq is a single interrupt.

[unreal bay]

or maybe you can ask for position over i2c once heard interrupt

[sand lotus]

It’ll be in the touch driver. For the featherwing its the stmpe driver. I only brought up the tft featherwing because i know it uses irq pin.

I think irq automatically reports the x,y when irq happens.

So it’s automatically built in. Touch x, touch y in comparison is more complicated

Qualia rgb 666 has a nice round test image as a wallpaper

With colors and ruler

Oh nvm, qualia is 720x720

Tilegrid it. Spritesheet.

Fork awesome symbol font?

One of the pros to a font is easier to change a symbol font color vs graphic editing.

[sand lotus]

Anchor point?

Getting the image offset to center them in a circle sounds tough.

Nvm, you made that so much easier than i thought it would be.nicely done.

[sand lotus]

Looks good. I do have a quick pr?

Public api should take about 1 min to review. Requests.

Ok np.

I did a liitle reverse engineering on adafruitstatus.com to figure out thats what they’re using and found the api.

I literally just did it on a whim and figured that must be their api id.

I have no idea. 🤷 i made that example in 15 mins just to do it.

Thank you for the stream. Have a great week!

[verbal river]

👋🏽 @babyada

[open girder]

LIVE FROM BROOKLYN! Desk of Ladyada - RaaAWWwwwr PLEO battery repair 🦖🤖🔋 https://youtu.be/x7x36VKhoKE

[gray obsidian]

missed the start, which type are they? NiMH?

[open girder]

AA NiMH tabbed!

[gray obsidian]

OK

I just opened some antique PowerBook batteries this week… some Ni-Cd, some Ni-MH

[nova totem]

I opened my headset that stopped charging to find a pillowy battery (that is now gone) 😮

[gray obsidian]

and I noticed some people just replace NiCD cells with NiMH, but that's not really safe, and I've been wondering if it's possible to design a BMS/charger circuit to fit inside the case to make it safer while leaving the laptop charge them thinking they are NiCd…

And I had some ideas for cell holders that would fit in there because I don't want to spot-weld things I might use like 3 times.

[shell mason]

🦕

i remmeber this kind with some way to ligit up from bottom with light and also ir when microsoft had it surface table back in the day

[rich wing]

🥰

[verbal river]

👶🏽 🦕

Oh man there are so many different sizes of those barrel connectors

[gray obsidian]

"couple standards" 😄

[verbal river]

I had to find a matching connector for a charger. I tried measuring it but I couldn't be sure to a fraction of a millimetre. So I closed my eyes and clicked on one of them on Digikey.

Luckily it was the right one, plan B was to click on everything in my search results. 😄

[shell mason]

the coffee table what had some features for toys too if some way to light go to eyes for example

great desk of ladyada industrial fashion

[crisp trench]

Thank you!! 🖤

[gray obsidian]

Yay for switching to KiCad!

Don't forget to like & subscribe!

bye!

[verbal river]

Bye

[crisp trench]

🖤

[haughty quiver]

standby please for tech fix thanks!

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[inner spade]

👋

[dusk socket]

We are waiting with great anticipation

[inner spade]

Lars is at it again…

[haughty quiver]

haha

ok, launching!

[ivory flax]

I here... where are thou

[echo canopy]

Heyyyyy!! 👋🏻

[tulip canyon]

Welcome back JP

[vagrant flax]

Hello! 👋

[waxen bough]

👋

[cinder wind]

"logger"

[next compass]

Another tech issue with youTube?

👍🏽

[cinder wind]

what if I have a crouton code

[haughty quiver]

cranch cranch

[next compass]

Just picked up two, weeeee

[tulip canyon]

legogger

[cinder wind]

btw, if you need more SD speed in CircuitPython, use the native built-in sdcardio library instead of adafruit_sdcard (some boards don't have native sdcard support)

[waxen bough]

I wish I could add lipo battery to my order and still get economical usps shipping.

[timid plover]

thanks JP!

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[vagrant flax]

Thanks JP!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks JP

[ivory flax]

Chow

[haughty quiver]

ciao!

[inner spade]

Logs of thanks to ya!

[waxen bough]

Thanks JP! Picked up 3 and 2 memory cards!

[haughty quiver]

heh

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 452 LIVE! Lightswitch, LEGO Carousel and Horned Skull https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live Today's coupon code “printing” gets you 10% off your order!

[vagrant flax]

Good morning! 👋

[rocky reef]

good morning folks!

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[urban gale]

Hi folks!

wow finally something to do with all those lego horses I have

always wanted to make a ferris wheel too

[hard hollow]

https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/carousel-ride-40714

[rocky reef]

Micro Servos
https://www.adafruit.com/search?q=micro+servo

HUSB238 USB-C Power Delivery
https://www.adafruit.com/product/5991

12V LED Noodle
https://www.adafruit.com/product/5731

[hard hollow]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5731

https://www.printables.com/model/959369-horned-skull-lamp-demon-skull-skull-with-horns

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-beard-penguin-sound-battle-gif-6014822193131318285

[rocky reef]

Layer by Layer CAD Tutorials Playlist: -
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjF7R1fz_OOVsMp6nKnpjsXSQ45nxfORb

[upbeat coral]

Working in Tinkercad as we speak.

I like the new programming things in blocks like in makecode

Yeah, watching what 2nd graders are making in Tinkercad is awesome

I actually used to drive submarines for the Navy.

Thanks for takinh time for us.

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for the show!

[hard hollow]

thanks folks!

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for haning out folks!

[rapid hornet]

👋

[haughty quiver]

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE in BROOKLYN! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/a3Z9HJ_skg0 & Link to join to show and share your project! https://streamyard.com/89u2kcbizx

[open surge]

👋

[inner spade]

Great Scott, Scott!

[still bane]

https://www.crowdsupply.com/great-scott-gadgets/cynthion

https://greatscottgadgets.com/cynthion/

[rapid hornet]

https://discord.gg/S38RAEVe

[cinder wind]

Kenya believe it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbYtASAakAI

[robust horizon]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/iRKHTAnWUtqagW34A

[wind spoke]

Great vacations!

[unreal bay]

Anyone use samsung Dex (on the note9 and other phones), android device that became a full hdmi breakout pc using usb-dock and could boot ubuntu as an lxd container. It was close to being good enough

[cinder wind]

So it's the Fuse Blower 100?

[wind spoke]

I think starting with Pixel 8, there is also the Google/android desktop ... I never tested it.

[inner spade]

It’s a fuse tester!

[wind spoke]

So VT100 not emulated!!!

I still use HJKL in vi because I used dump terminal without arrow keys when I was in university.

[tame dew]

The rainbow-y steel has a protective anti-corrosion coating. I used to do sheet metal prototype engineering, but I forgot the name of that particular process.

[brazen quail]

Rainbow steel is I think cadmium coating. Not ok to lick.

[dusk socket]

Thank you JP I am having trouble make the code for that

[upbeat coral]

Thanks to all for sharing

[tulip canyon]

Thanks all for sharing

[tame dew]

I don't think cadmium is the only one, I think it was related to zinc. The green coated aluminum in aircraft is definitely not safe to lick.

We didn't use anything toxic except one type of chrome coating.

(It was only toxic in the liquid, acid form)

[haughty quiver]

thanks for the info @tame dew i will definitly be careful about not licking it and washing my hands after touching it

[tame dew]

Yeah, I think this was the chromate conversion aka alodine coating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromate_conversion_coating

but memory does go away after not using it for 15 years.

[cloud bone]

what’s the alternative to hjkl @wind spoke ?

[tame dew]

(I was a Materials Engineer aka Metallurgist before I switched careers to software)

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE in BROOKLYN! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/E0yPi-coaZQ

10% discount code, code is: buspirate ends at midnight NYC time - SHOP NOW! https://www.adafruit.com

[cinder wind]

max headroom bg!

[ashen dove]

I saw that episode earlier this year!

[cinder wind]

round!

Also Mark Komus beat me to it and did a synthio 24-voice custom build of CircuitPython for the RP2350 and it sounds great! https://mastodon.social/@markkomus/113024269593686969

[gray obsidian]

It's the worst thing in the hands of people thinking it's magic or giving right answers. I think you're the only one I've yet seen using it correctly.

[cloud bone]

i think it’s mostly useless but sometimes it’s better than google

[slate bane]

On the ADS7830 is it “normal” for other channels to jitter (or even bias slightly) when one hits full Vref or Gnd? Is there a way to prevent it? I'm using 10k pots.

[brazen quail]

Is Adafruit using or investigating SiC and/or GaN, or are these ICs only meaningful for A/C or high voltage DC ? I am curious if BJT transistors are now frowned upon for all but audio.

[dim knot]

Adafruit Gift Certificates (0:11) https://www.adafruit.com/product/3331

[wind spoke]

Maybe PC Gamer generation is using WASD...

[tulip kestrel]

Question:
so i have a li-ion battery from an old device all it says "BAT-1002-1", "1800mAh", "6.7wh". will it work with the memento camera? this battery works with my metro esp32-s2, so it should be 3.7/4.2V but i don't have a lot of info on this battery, just the text on it.

battery merriments
~57.5mm X ~41.2mm X ~6.7mm and a 41mm cord with a JST 2-PH port on the end

[gray obsidian]

Question: I've seen people replacing old NiCd cells by NiMH in batteries for old stuff (like PowerBook macs), which I'm quite sure isn't very safe… I wonder if it's possible to design an interposer BMS that'd make the original charging circuit think it's OK, while making it safe? If I understood charge curves NiCd should have higher voltage when charged, so maybe it's not possible 🤔 Plus I don't fancy spot-welding cells in a battery I'd use like 2 times a year, so I'd have to design some thin enough holders…

[cloud bone]

@wind spoke heh i can’t imagine using wasd instead of hjkl, too much muscle memory using wasd with other vi motions

[gray obsidian]

Oh, I tried the ECG mod on the Card10 badge from CCCamp19, was surprised how good it looked.

the mics are still a bit low btw wrt jingles

Nice new designs 🙂

Nice new designs too 😄

[dim knot]

Adafruit DS2482S-800 8 Channel I2C to 1-Wire Bus Adapter - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/6027

Bus Pirate 5 Base Kit with Bus Pirate 5 PCB and Enclosure https://www.adafruit.com/product/6017

Bus Pirate 5 Probe Cable Set https://www.adafruit.com/product/6020

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: buspirate ends at midnight NYC time - SHOP NOW! https://www.adafruit.com

[dim knot]

Bus Pirate 5 KF141 Quick Connect Adapter - Right Angle https://www.adafruit.com/product/6019

Bus Pirate 5 SOIC / SOP8 SPI Flash Adapter https://www.adafruit.com/product/6021

[gray obsidian]

I'll have to dig that later I suppose yeah.

And look for your local hackerspace/fablab for workshops on electronics, soldering…

🙂

[crisp trench]

🖤

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[gray obsidian]

Thanks!

Don't forget to like on yt 👍

[lavish patrol]

Good evening all.

John Park's back!

[haughty quiver]

ahaha 🍺

[open surge]

good afternoon 🙂

[haughty quiver]

hello!

[ivory flax]

Hey JP

[haughty quiver]

hey!

[dusk socket]

I'm looking forward to your project with the 5991 Power setup I have the stuff

[cinder wind]

Is the party in this room? I heard the party was in this room

[open surge]

Now that you're here!

[lavish patrol]

Another CRT

[tulip canyon]

👋

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/asus-asus-tuf-asus-tuf-dash-asus-tuf-dash-f15-tuf-gif-25152832

lars powerdelivery

[lavish patrol]

VT100 - Know it well.

[cinder wind]

"hey isn't 'parsec' a unit of distance?"

[tulip canyon]

hot-swappin' JP

[inner spade]

Wrote a Tektronix-compatible graphics library for the VT100’s ANSI graphics character set once upon a time. In Fortran.

Head still hurts a little from that experience.

[cinder wind]

Fortran!

[lavish patrol]

We had a DEC VAX-11/780

[inner spade]

I cut my teeth on a collection of DEC equipment starting with a PDP-7.

[lavish patrol]

Pongski...

[unreal bay]

What's the mega tin can thing on pong doubles PCB?
Hi btw

[cinder wind]

I went! it was awesome https://space.ayzenberg.com/ (thx jp)

[lavish patrol]

I built one using one of those Motorola chips...

[dusk socket]

John has some of the nicest things to show

[lavish patrol]

Indeed.

[glass stag]

Imagine if you fired it up and realize it is just Space Invaders. LUL.

[cinder wind]

"Living hinge" from non-living matter! What mad scientist stuff are you doing, JP! You'll doom us all!

[lavish patrol]

Resistance is futile...

[tulip canyon]

aluminum doesn't like to bend twice

[lavish patrol]

It doesn't like mercury either.

You can never have too many of those. 👍

[unreal bay]

What did you create the case using, and were there any issues you experienced or were new to you

[tulip canyon]

Everything in 3D got bought by Autodesk

Blender is a great open source 3D and my fave

A cool tool for converting .stl files to .svg is https://plotter.vision/

[lavish patrol]

Non-Uniform Rational B-spline

[cinder wind]

I used to be all about filets everywhere but now I'm into chamfers, esp for 3d printed stuff. Looks kinda 80s https://mastodon.social/@todbot/112911460361929886

[lavish patrol]

Will it run Doom? 😉

[glass stag]

Curb find? WHAT STREET DO YOU LIVE ON? LOL

[cinder wind]

ikr? how does he find these things

[glass stag]

My street only has vape pens that have been driven over

[lavish patrol]

It might be damp inside. 🤔

[glass stag]

I should be at MakerFaire in October. I think I will take a walk around the side streets.

That is awesome. I can smell the electronics from here.

[lavish patrol]

Those old CRTs used to attrack very fine soot. They were typically used in offices back when smoking was allowed inside, and the smoke was attracted by the HT and collected around it.

[glass stag]

Ahh, built in air purifier.

[lavish patrol]

That's one way to look at it. 🤔 😄

Yikes! That's a big light.

Some of the later VT100s had nice paper white screens.

[glass stag]

I am surpised there isn't a post-it note with a password on it.

[lavish patrol]

The password is password. 😄

[verbal river]

If you're lucky, the old login screen will be burned into the CRT. 🙂

[cinder wind]

"pencil"

[ivory flax]

Wopr or something like that

[tulip canyon]

Thanks JP

[verbal river]

Bye

[glass stag]

Awesome stream. Thanks JP.

[lavish patrol]

Another fun workshop, JP. 👍

Bye all. 👋

[inner spade]

Thanks JP!

[haughty quiver]

thanks very much!

[nova totem]

👋

[inner spade]

👋

[turbid hill]

should you not say polygon with N sides

In geometry a rectangle is a 4 sided polygon

[nova totem]

Could you define it polygon_intersect and if the objects don't match what is supported throw notimplemented exception?

Like make it a generic call like vectorio.intersect

[tulip canyon]

I ran into an issue using vectorio because I couldnt use outlines/nofill

I saw your Math.dist() got added, which version of CircuitPython will it show up?

[nova totem]

I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as some but if you have core questions, ping me, I'm half paying attention working on something else

[halcyon pagoda]

I just got on a little bit ago and saw you put in a double underscore in a function name... could that be the issue?

You moved on really fast so I didn't see where it was exactly but caught my eye

It may have been line 83 and I missed you fixing it.

[nova totem]

There is MP_TRUE and MP_FALSE defined I believe

I may have the exact syntax wrong

mp_const_true

square the distance

[tulip canyon]

sqrt is also the same as pow **0.5

[nova totem]

if you think of it x == sqrt(y) is the same as x*x == y

[brazen grove]

am I late?

[nova totem]

I always am slightly surprised when code i write works

[glass stag]

I get suspicious when my code builds too quickly.

[glass stag]

Wait, you have code that works??

[nova totem]

Only once in my life I wrote a program of some complexity and it ran first time, perfectly. I kept figuring something was wrong.

[nova totem]

Works is a strong term

[tulip canyon]

Are you eventually going to add checking for points as well?

I'm using this that you showed a while ago
https://www.jeffreythompson.org/collision-detection/point-circle.php

[glass stag]

**Whistles in amazement.

[tulip canyon]

Plotter looks cool
A displayio charting library would be awesome.
The Clue board had really great charting but I think that was Arduino?

Thanks!

Here's where I'm at trying to produce Delaunay triangulation.
The triangle gets created then the circumcircle of those points needs to check for other points.

It's in SciPy spacial and I've taken it for granted how easy it is to use in CPython
https://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/generated/scipy.spatial.Delaunay.html

[brazen quail]

Thanks for keeping it real.

[tulip canyon]

Thanks @smoky island Have a great evening

[glass stag]

Awesome stream.

[halcyon pagoda]

Cheers mate

[smoky island]

I'm getting started for the morning now working on adding serial plotter to the web IDE. You can follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snd6UE-otxw

[inner spade]

☕👋

[unreal bay]

Hey Tim 👋 and all.
Is this the arduino serial monitor charting equivalent functionality? I was going to recreate something similar, with a few alternative ingestion formats. Super relieved to see you having a crack at it (I've got too many things on the todo list)

arduino does, but think it uses a tuple, which must have one separator, like (10,) or more normally with many values (10,1,3)

ah much better

Curious how datetime / timestamps work out. Presumably only ticks or seconds supported (otherwise string dates would need to be understood)

Ah got you, that makes sense, the horizontal / x is always changing so fast

This is bringing back D3.js and other interactive chart memories

Avoid time/date like the plague, even a dedicated library like moment.js recommends against guessing/auto-parsing in favour of the browser locale/internationlisation options, enforcing a format on the user rather than accept all formats

Looks like great progress, nice one Tim

No scatter to my knowledge, that might be really useful for some needs

Thanks again Tim

[open girder]

💃

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/zenless-zone-zero-zzz-bangboo-nerd-gif-10020116295591104796

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE, in BROOKLYN! Desk of Ladyada - Sniffly Sunday! 🤒🎤 https://youtu.be/fuITok1UdRU

[shell mason]

more I2S microphones

[open girder]

🎤🎙️

[shell mason]

🎙️ 🎤

[ionic crag]

always good to see better S/N on mics

hope you get better soon...

[shell mason]

the soundwire seems in mipi alliance https://www.mipi.org/specifications/soundwire

[echo canopy]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[haughty quiver]

hello!

[cinder wind]

What's the news, JP? Is the secret product a plushie? I hope it's a plushie.

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-spider-man-strain-struggle-peter-parker-gif-16613401

[haughty quiver]

It's a plushie

[inner spade]

👋

[vagrant flax]

Hello! 👋

[cinder wind]

Strain Plushie!

[inner spade]

There's at least one vein showing, Mr. Park.

[tacit garnet]

Two words on meme. Less bran.

[cinder wind]

cool shirt!

[ivory flax]

What a great day for a pick of the week.

[inner spade]

Weight for it...

[cinder wind]

yeah at 80 Hz max read rate, not going to be using this cool 24-bit ADC for much else than scales. Could be useful for other scientific instrumentation?

[inner spade]

Going to try it and a couple of other strain-gauge ADCs as a moisture saturation meter. These bridge ADCs are pretty good for milli/micro-volt differential signals.

I suppose they could be useful for eddy-current flex/strain measurements.

[waxen bough]

Did the scale report zero when the sockets were removed? I wasn't watching.

Close enough!

[inner spade]

With the right strain gauge and plate, you can also measure air flow and direction.

@haughty quiver Try blowing on the plate...

[cinder wind]

that blows my mind

har har har

[glass stag]

I am looking into smaller load cells to measure combat robots pushing ability.

[glass stag]

What is the temperature rating? What if JP has too much hot air? 😄

[cinder wind]

use it to measure thermal expansion

[waxen bough]

It makes the air apparent.

[shell mason]

might be nice to way to measure ice forming perhaps on water tube

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[glass stag]

Cool stream as always,

[waxen bough]

Don't know when I'll use it so I bought 1 ea. of the strain gauges.

[inner spade]

Thanks JP! Massively cool.

[haughty quiver]

thanks so much all!

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[open girder]

SHOW and TELL 9/4/2024 https://youtu.be/_A3h_5YYbNk & Link to join to show and share your project! https://streamyard.com/m8td9a5xgw

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[gusty wedge]

Hi from Costa Rica.

That lady ada painting on the wall of the new factory is just impressively cool, I liked it very much.

[spring heath]

https://adafruit-playground.com/u/AnneBarela/pages/unboxing-a-10-year-old-home-theater-pc

[inner spade]

👋

[haughty quiver]

https://archive.org/details/press_the_green_button_the_future_living_ep

https://www.discogs.com/release/14907383-Press-The-Green-Button-The-Future-Living-EP

[open girder]

22 years ago, oof!

[vagrant flax]

https://adafruit-playground.com/u/squid_jpg/pages/sparkle-specs-firmware-for-adafruit-led-glasses-driver

[haughty quiver]

@vagrant flax that's SO cool! love the wiichuck control 🙂

[gusty wedge]

@vagrant flax it looks like the faces from the movie Borderlands. Love it.

[haughty quiver]

I really wanna play Pong on your glasses

Such a great demo @vagrant flax !!!

[gusty wedge]

That adabox just went to $1k in ebay...

[spring heath]

This looks like my GitHub repo stats

[viral sail]

Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.

[upbeat coral]

Thanks to all for sharing

[vagrant flax]

Thanks everyone! 😄

[tulip canyon]

Thanks all for sharing fantastic projects tonight

[tulip kestrel]

Question: how do i do the battery percentage on a momento camera? give me links to look over pleases.

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE in BROOKLYN! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/aik5tDTGFzw

[cinder wind]

That audio is like the begining of the sci-fi horror movie of the tentacle monsters from spaaace

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: pipico ends at midnight NYC time - SHOP NOW! https://adafruit.com

[delicate fractal]

The next Aliens film will be on the ISS, and they'll use it for that.

[cinder wind]

hehe

[delicate fractal]

By Grathered's Hammer! What savings!

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[viral sail]

That's almost Mars 🔴 year.

[cinder wind]

It's the Save icon!

[sand lotus]

7 years is 2555 days. maybe they thought it was a database error and reset you to 255 days?

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[tulip canyon]

Question: Is the Pico 2 pin compatable with original Pico? Doubler and Cowbells work with both? Thank you

[cinder wind]

Also an issue with Pico2/RP2350: touchio captouch sensors will not work, and doing buttons with internal pull-down will not work, as described on this page: https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/getting-started-with-the-pico/6

[dim knot]

GIFT CERTIFICATES https://www.adafruit.com/category/14

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[tulip canyon]

As a kid I left my crayons in the back window of my parents car. They did not appreciate the scent like I did lol

[dim knot]

Some cool new products tonight coming up.

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: pipico ends at midnight NYC time - SHOP NOW! https://adafruit.com

[rich wing]

Q for later: Did you keep mostly the same layout in the new space as the old one, or did was this an opportunity to completely redo the manufacturing layout?

[dim knot]

Breadboard-friendly RGB Smart NeoPixel - Pack of 5 https://www.adafruit.com/product/1312

Blank SMT Storage Book - 20 pages (Ding-and-Dent Clearance) https://www.adafruit.com/product/5977

USB to Multi-Protocol Serial Cable - RS-232 / TTL UART / RS-485 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5994

USB to Multi-Protocol Serial Adapter: RS-232 / TTL UART / RS-485 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5995

Half Height / Low Profile MX-Compatible Key Switches - 12 pack - Outemu GTMX https://www.adafruit.com/product/6022

Raspberry Pi Pico 2 - RP2350 https://www.adafruit.com/product/6006

[waxen bough]

To think of the number of different serial cables and converters I've shuffled around over the years! All I need is a dual m/f head with flying leads to wire whatever I need! (even "null modem" by the way I screw the wires in!) Sweet!

[noble grove]

QUESTION: Will the DVI Sock for Pico (ID: 5957) work with the new RP2350?

[tulip kestrel]

Question: how do i do the battery percentage on a momento camera? give me links to look over pleases.

[waxen bough]

Nice Denis Leary reference!

[echo canopy]

question—- when you use a GPIO pin as a “fake ground” are there any limitations you have found ? such as reading button states quickly ? speeds with I2C / SPI ?

also is there any family of chips you would not recommend (example ARM, RP2040, ESP32…. )