My video is literally like JP headroom, weird glitchinges
#live-broadcast-chat
sand lotus
dawn bear
yes I heard it
lavish patrol
sand lotus
Wish you could see this everyone its funny.
cinder wind
DJDevon3 you should try turning down video quality
inner spade
Plenty of audio on that video
austere pollen
If you need help with audio check out the adafruit discord server. There's an extra channel for it #help-with-audio 😝 Nah, worked good for me 😄
dawn bear
No it played fine here
sand lotus
Im watching via twitch so i can have discord open too.
inner spade
No glitches on YouTube up here
sand lotus
On tablet
lavish patrol
Pyson Parthec...
sand lotus
Fine on youtube must be twitch related.
austere pollen
that macropad looks really nice
sand lotus
Yeah its defaulting to 1080p on twitch, this internet will not do it. 720p works fine. Good idea Todbot thank you.
lavish patrol
Getting a Lotus 123 vibe with that display.
sand lotus
Nice parsec. Sounds great too.
sand lotus
Neat sequencer effect. Yummy.
dawn bear
Has he done threading in circuit python?
cinder wind
I totally forgot about GridLayout in displayio, even though I see I've used it in at least 2 projects ahha
sand lotus
I think he also used it in his touchdeck but thats for touch displayio buttons.
sand lotus
Oh use a power washer to hit virtual bells as an instrument?
shell mason
wind spoke
Obviously CGrover is the new TodBot. 🙂
lavish patrol
Lol
sand lotus
They’re both amazing tbh.
shell mason
Lars chimes and nozzles kit
sand lotus
So many talented people around here. This community is amazing.
dawn bear
About 3 meters
shell mason
that is sure look like from powerwasher simulator
cinder wind
Looks like a pretty good raygun
sand lotus
I swear JP can circuit bend anything.
lavish patrol
Indeed.
sand lotus
That’s convenient, nice.
Will watch the rest tonight. Have to go. Have a great day everyone. Awesome project JP!
lavish patrol
Bye, @sand lotus
ivory flax
Sorry I missed your show. Funerals are no fun
dawn bear
Great demo!
inner spade
I have an itch to go wash the patio furniture now.
lavish patrol
@inner spade I'll send you my address. 😄
grand tusk
Now I can replace my paper tape with a strand of legos.
dawn bear
AH another brick in the wall
wind spoke
lavish patrol
Lighter colors = the sensor recieves more light.
grand tusk
Let's hear some Bricktunes!
lavish patrol
Getting a "Close Encounters" vibe...
grand tusk
Wow that's cool!
dawn bear
Good tune but hard to dance to. 🙂
lavish patrol
Lol
wind spoke
How to compute "colour distance" or "best match"?
cinder wind
yeah exactly. I'd probably convert to HSV colorspace and then measure just hue
wind spoke
Would "euclidian" distance on RGB be a good?
inner spade
Would "euclidian" distance on RGB be a good?
Yes, the color comparator is redmean weighted Euclidean, although unweighted would likely work for a project like this.
wind spoke
I guess I have to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_difference
So coding and making is not taking place is the same room...
inner spade
The sensor is surprisingly directional, too.
lavish patrol
Clean and colorful workshop today. 😄
unreal bay
Thanks JP + all
dawn bear
See y'all
inner spade
The sensor was on my list to try for a TV backlight project: https://youtu.be/yFqbalF0FGw
lavish patrol
Thanks, @haughty quiver, and bye all. 👋
unreal bay
Oh fascinating, like the Hue type strips for tvs
inner spade
Oh fascinating, like the Hue type strips for tvs
Yes. The sensor was very accurate and responsive, so the neopixel strip needed an algorithm to integrate the colors into something that gradually changes.
JP suggested that the sensor could be hidden behind the screen, connected via a light pipe.
unreal bay
oh clever, it's those hidden details that make it
wise mirage
Any word on when Ada Box will resume?
austere pollen
@wise mirage ☝️ (I think)
wise mirage
<@393541934192525313> ☝️ (I think)
Great, thanks for the info!
lyric frost
I have an AMD video card and have to uninstall the drivers anytime I want to use OBS....
It's an older card though.....
rapid hornet
it was complaining about a missing library
/usr/bin/ld: warning: libdav1d.so.6, needed by /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.60, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
lyric frost
hmm, in my case it's looking for a DRI_Mesa extension of some sort, even though Mesa appears to be all set...
timid plover
Someday I will learn OBS, but seems like a big learning curve
maybe a deep dive someday 🙂
lyric frost
Fingers crossed the rebuild gets you going 😄
nova totem
Someday I will learn OBS, but seems like a big learning curve
It actually isn't too hard for the most part, depending how fancy you want to get. The basics did not take me too long to understand.
Though I did learn the harsh lesson of not upgrading it 5 minutes before trying to go onto S&T once
rapid hornet
heh, I'm learning the lesson to launch it with time to spare before my stream
nova totem
I think the lesson here is to never update and never shut anything down
brazen grove
I think the lesson here is to never update and never shut anything down
never even get close to a computer
timid plover
at least you have a powerful CPU
austere pollen
I think the lesson here is to never update and never shut anything down
lmao true. Just last week I had to completely reinstall my moms laptop because the OS update completely broke everything 😭 😆 (was actually surprisingly easy to rescue all the files and settings)
rapid hornet
I'm not sure its using all of the cores...
lyric frost
Sounds good
eager matrix
Hi Scott. Now worries about the delay. "Things" happen.
timid plover
no label on the micro yet - which was it ? 🙂
you had michaels question - did you answer it
ornate coyote
What will I be interested in? I missed that @rapid hornet 😦
austere pollen
No RGB? Literally unplayable! 😝
ornate coyote
Ahh, ok, yeah... 100%!
Has anyone looked at the invalid pin issue in CP 9 alpha?
Ok. CP 9 alpha is not usable at least on my boards - I'm assuming on any ESP32 boards. Not sure if an issue was raised by the OP, but I won't side track you on it now - RGB baby!
timid plover
stream paused ( for me ? )
ornate coyote
The OP didn't raise an issue like I asked them to - they just posted the problem in #circuitpython-dev 😦
ornate coyote
I have to say - whoever thought up the name protomatter should get a raise!!!
timid plover
recall a while ago you were working on bare metal CP on the rPI - not that Pi5 is out ( with dual displays ) do you see this on the timeline ? ( does adafruit have other multiple display products ? )
does copy/paste handle Makefile tabs for you ?
hope to review the Max 3421 with tinyusb support - thanks for mentioning it
ornate coyote
All of them it seems... when referencing board.XXX pins.
Been reported on TinyS3, FeatherS3 so far, but I'd assume it's the same with all, atleast S3 boards.
It comes back with INVALID pin.
This is the link...
#circuitpython-dev message
Oh, it was an ADC thing? Ok, I wasn't sure and hadn'r had a chance to dig into it this week.
The board.VBUS pin is not an ADC pin though, it's just a digital read.
Maybe the OP was trying to do an analogRead on the VBUS pin by accident. Could explain why it failed on that too.
But if you fixed the ADC stuff, it's likely fixed everything!
timid plover
post said: "issue from mu-editor V1.2.0 REPL the commands
import board
followed by
dir(board)
then among others appear: BATTERY, VBAT and VBAT_SENSE, so how I can get an 'Invalid pin' error"
but maybe the error is comming from the ADC stuff like UM mentions
I think maybe the OP saw the names, then tried the ADC read
here's what they typed
The command: 'import feathers3' caused the error: File "feathers3.py", line 23, in <module>. ValueError: Invalid pin, while line 23 is:
Setup the BATTERY voltage sense pin
vbat_voltage = AnalogIn(board.BATTERY)
fix the script 🙂
they tried board.BATTERY
how would git help you find this fix ?
ornate coyote
Wcked, thanks @rapid hornet !
nova totem
I can probably do a quick PR review though can't test it myself, don't think I have an S3 around
timid plover
thanks to @Paulsk for the problem report that @rapid hornet fixed !
ornate coyote
Thanks Scott! Havw a great weekend!
timid plover
i thinkyou did update 🙂
lyric frost
Thanks, nite
rapid hornet
thanks!
smoky island
I am getting started for the morning now. Trying out a Temp Sensor driver rewrite. You can follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vicVDDIPelc or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch
sand lotus
Good morning. ☕️
inner spade
Hello! ☕
clever summit
Hey Tim, nice to see you. Needed the company.
My very first Arduino library was actually for a temperature sensor. 🙂
sand lotus
I don’t have any adt sensors yet. Will be neat seeing how it works.
clever summit
I run HomeAssistant so I have some ESP32 devices with sensors. This is the outside temperature measured with one of those onewire sensors.
sand lotus
I’d love to get outside temp sensor going with solar and lora.
clever summit
And yes, summer is really over.
sand lotus
Or wifi, yes.
clever summit
I use ESPHome, even easier than CirucitPython. You just write some yaml instead of code.
Oh, that one is really accurate. ±0.4°C from −40°C to +105°C...
sand lotus
My favorite by far is the bme280 so far. I got like 4 of them. Extremely accurate temp/humidity/pressure sensors from bosch.
The bme688 not as accurate for some reason.
clever summit
That one is 24 hours.
No, ESPHome actually code generates the firmware and then use Platfor.io to compile it.
sand lotus
I have the bme280 stemma module but yes its the same sensor on some feathers.
clever summit
Not in the cloud, but you got it. First time you need to upload code over serial, then it is all over the air updates.
And nowadays you do that in the browser.
sand lotus
My brother is giving me his pi 4 he’s never going to use. Maybe I’ll put home assistant on it. First i’ve heard of esphome. Will look into that.
clever summit
You go here, connect to your local USB serial port and upload the bin file it creates. Really streamlined.
inner spade
Combination of workshop interior sensors and local openweathermap.org weather data on an AIO dashboard showing a 3-day trend.
sand lotus
That looks awesome.
clever summit
That is really neat. I only wish the graphs inside of Home Assiustant looked as good.
inner spade
AIO makes it pretty easy.
clever summit
This is my office sensors. Even have a radiation sensor. 🙂
sand lotus
Online data is never 100% accurate to your property. Always better to use local sensors if possible. A combination of online/local data is nice to have for projections.
shell mason
nich JOnny
inner spade
This is my office sensors. Even have a radiation sensor. 🙂
Air quality and radiation is a great idea.
clever summit
Does not look as neat in reality though. 🙂
inner spade
Online data is never 100% accurate to your property. Always better to use local...
Agree.
proper prawn
Hi to Tim and all present
clever summit
The black enclosure to the left was my try to make neat stuff. Turns out it was a bad idea putting a temperature sensor in an enclosure with an ESP32 that is active all the time. Shows a temperature +4°C higher.
inner spade
I have a similar issue with the workshop’s dust proof enclosure. Although the temp sensor is external, the ESP32 plus the TFT display get pretty hot. Shutting down the TFT backlight when not in use made a big difference.
noble grove
Those numbers are all sixteenths...
clever summit
Yeah, also putting the ESP32 in sleep mode helps alot.
sand lotus
Nice lcars gui too. Very nice.
I’m also running some bias adjusting code. Can be helpful if you compare the temp to a known good thermometer and find slight discrepancies.
The bias adjustment code is extremely helpful for any temp sensor project.
clever summit
SPS means sample per second
sand lotus
Makes sense
inner spade
Your work on the bias adjustments is impressive. Knew it was there but didn’t place much importance on it until after your efforts.
sand lotus
Honestly Tyeth helped write it with openai. He didn’t want any attribution for it.
Never thought about a critical temp warning. Sounds handy.
clever summit
Median?
noble grove
If there is an 'above/below' output bit, then hysteresis would be how far above or below the set temperature will cause the out put to toggle.
sand lotus
looks like sample averaging? If it does it fast enough where it can throw out erroneous samples sounds like a good idea.
Bias adjusting is only needed due to board heating normally so it’s theoretically unnecessary below 50C since the module will not self heat below that.
Some sensors have compensation registers. Unsure if this one has one.
Gotta go work on some projects with my brother now. Have a great weekend everyone. 🤗
clever summit
Lol. Kinda painful switching from Python to c++. I lost count on all the times I forgot to add the ; character today.
clever summit
Ha, now I even foroget to add the {}...
proper prawn
Tnx Tim!
covert crag
My favorite by far is the bme280 so far. I got like 4 of them. Extremely accur...
I see your BME280 and raise you TMP117s and SHT45s 😉. Love having ±0.1 C temperature accuracy, though the SHT45's is technically 0.1 typical, while the TMP117s are explicitly just 0.1.
covert crag
The bme688 not as accurate for some reason.
I assume the MOx heating probably has something to do with it?
open girder
The Desk of Ladyada - USB Host Featherwing + 2.8" Round Display & Clamping Cable Ferrites https://youtu.be/aCon4shjSJc
covert crag
Evening all
nova totem
Happy Canadian Thanksgiving all!
open girder
👋
covert crag
bows down to the queen of displays and awaits UK resellers getting the Qualia and all the shiny displays in stock
open girder
👑
covert crag
It's really great how the demo showed up on all of the displays.
gray obsidian
virtualabs also keeps having USB issues with MPLab during his live twitch… 😅
lilac tusk
Speaking of making things working and round displays, I got a GC9A01 round display working this evening
covert crag
Does anyone know if the S3's historical I2C clock issues have been fixed yet? I think the deep sleep issues were sorted a while ago, but be good to know if I might have I2C issues with a Qualia, as I've only used S2s before. (I have like 6 now I've added a relay for ESPNOW..).
open girder
Not sure if IDF5 has fixed everything, we did manage to get most sensors working with some retries
S3 I2C scan is still quite slow, maybe its fixed in 5.1 (we hope)
nova totem
Doing some software defined radio work (SDR) ferrite clamps to any and all cables made a huge difference. It's crazy how much EMI even well shielded devices can still put out
covert crag
Huh, didn't know Laird made gourmet jellybean parts, had just seen their fancy LoRa gateways
gray obsidian
I suppose we could use some double-sided tape inside around the cable…
covert crag
Night all
gray obsidian
thanks!
open girder
thanks all!
lilac tusk
Thanks AdaFam!
pearl shoal
I love all the work on USB, @proper trench and @open girder ! Am I right to think that the MAX3421 is working as a PHY and TinyUSB will use it like it does the PIO PHY? I know PHY isn't a perfect analogy, but basically it will do the USB protocol and get the data off the wire (checksums and all that) and then TinyUSB will expose the device as a mouse/keyboard/gamepad/customHID, etc? That would be great for lots of projects.
open girder
@pearl shoal thats right! it lets you use any processor with TinyUSB Host mode, not just the RP2040 (with bitbang PIO)
currently arduino supported only, circuitpython support is being worked on, but no ETA as its a big lift
pearl shoal
currently arduino supported only, circuitpython support is being worked on, but ...
That's ok--the big benefit of CP honestly isn't the language--it's that we can configure the device by editing a settings.py file. We've been looking at how the hid-remapper project uses webserial (or webusb?) for configuration and honestly if we can get some form of standard code base around that I think we'll be happy with Arduino for many projects. The Python aspect is GREAT for the high schoolers... and we still want to use it as much as we can. But the big reason NOT to use Arduino is the configurability..
pearl shoal
currently arduino supported only, circuitpython support is being worked on, but ...
So, this is all great stuff! It also means we can make the IntelliKeys support BLE devices like iOS 🙂
haughty quiver
howdy! 💀
inner spade
Hello!
regal plover
Hello JP
split gazelle
good afternoon folks
little onyx
Da Dawg is here
midnight plinth
Hey, John!
viral sail
Good afternoon.
haughty quiver
hi @regal plover hi @split gazelle hi @little onyx
hi @midnight plinth
hi @viral sail
little onyx
anyone know if Adafruit will be present at the Makers Faire in the bay area this weekend?
clever summit
🇸🇪 👋
echo canopy
Hey 👋🏻
inner spade
@haughty quiver mic audio on YouTube is a bit low compared to music
And the lady Ada recording
cinder wind
Product Pick of the (Hallo)Ween
I made a Hackaday Jolly Wrencher case for this board's predecessor. I think it'll work for this one too https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3238536
hollow oasis
Any news on a DRV2605L Haptic Driver board with the Motor soldered in?
midnight plinth
I liked the Potter book demo (well I guess it was the Hocus Pocus book, DOH)
inner spade
Thanks!
shell mason
the john the pick of theweek image reminded me of sonic meme
lavish patrol
Morning/afternoon/evening eveyone.
wise iris
good morning!
rocky reef
3DHangouts Episode 417 LIVE! HAL 9000, Fraz Wrench and Grim Reaper
https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live
#3DPrinting Today's coupon code “odyssey” gets you 10% off your order!
sand lotus
Good morning ☕️
lavish patrol
☕
vagrant flax
vagrant flax
that looks great!
rocky reef
HAL 9000 Learn Guide -
https://learn.adafruit.com/hal-9000-rp2040-prop-maker
shell mason
when i saw that grim reaper print timelapse i was like is that a smurf
sand lotus
Might be easier to make a separate glue on badge for the multi-color print?
shell mason
now think round display forit
rocky reef
HAL 9000 YouTube Video -
https://youtu.be/Y1Di5LjXXd0
RP2040 PropMaker Feather -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/5768
rocky reef
3W Speaker -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4445
unreal bay
Hey All 👋 I've got a model for you, I'm using it to attach a Car Horn to the Swirly Mounting Grid 📯and lift it off the surface, printed in TPU.
However if you use it backwards then it works for joining 2 or 4 panels together with a mounting screw hole! https://cad.onshape.com/documents/627f31b85925949126050a0e/w/4d1902b96bf8766cd96ecbe4/e/6867cf02692fd3a0950a2a13?renderMode=0&uiState=6526bab84f1b5f35d480af6d I'll have it in a guide soon, but the Onshape link is public (with free account)
rocky reef
3D Parts Library on GitHub -
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts
sand lotus
Oh it is a separate label badge. 👍
shell mason
for hal9000 test for display perhaps https://www.adafruit.com/product/5800
lavish patrol
Kitties!
sand lotus
Don’t think I can do that with a .8 nozzle. 😅
shell mason
other round display option is pimoroni hyperpixel round for the hal 9000
wise iris
it was a camera lens, iirc
sand lotus
Neopixel ring would work too
lavish patrol
Waiting for Pedro to turn into a kitten...
sand lotus
Great enclosure design. Everything looks like it fits up very nicely.
unreal bay
it does love the t-shirt, use that area of the screen (beneath face)
sand lotus
Ohh a side mounted rotary encoder. 👍
Add a LORA/RFM board and GPS so the antennas are functional? 😀
Are those lego parts for the led diffusers?
Neat battery holder too.
lavish patrol
I think Pedro's computer is making decisions off its own bat... 😶
sand lotus
Just picked up 2 qualia boards and 2 displays with your coupon code. 🤗
rocky reef
Timelapse Tuesday
Grim Reaper by Twisty Prints
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/art/articulated-grim-reaper
https://youtu.be/vPqxVmnsiac
shell mason
rocky reef
shell mason
andy like that? what pedro computer is doing? as is it sending bat signal to sky on haunted mansion?
rocky reef
lavish patrol
andy like that? what pedro computer is doing? as is it sending bat signal to sky...
Lol
shell mason
andy now we need some haunted mansion projects for sure
the halowing need new display edition like rounded display TFT edition
sand lotus
The 4” round display not available in time for Halloween. 😔
unreal bay
Thanks both
wise iris
thanks guys
hard hollow
THanks follsk! cya tonight
sand lotus
Thank you for a great 3D hangout. See you next week!
rocky reef
thanks so much for hanging out folks!
split gazelle
here is the link to join show and tell: https://streamyard.com/sd4qrmaqfj
tulip canyon
👋 Hey everyone
sand lotus
Howdy!
inner spade
Hello!
haughty quiver
hi!
sage aspen
Hello
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
tulip canyon
🤖 🫧
Interesting linkage on the head/neck. Jayy's robots keep getting more advanced 👍
sand lotus
Cute robot jay! I like random animatronics.
shell mason
Robots
sand lotus
That’s a lot of custom 3d printed parts too.
shell mason
that flow way is nice with note on github actions
sand lotus
What kind of logic chip does it use or is it only small cap touch chips? @spring heath I know nothing about cap touch. Beautiful design!
The promised synth power glove. JP is the chosen one.
Arpeggio’s forever. ❤️
shell mason
or have hands synthetizier way like those some synth harps do
sand lotus
JP phone home.
shell mason
think it also as assistant tech too
upbeat coral
Thanks to all for taking time for us
tulip canyon
Thanks all, great projecs. Thanks Liz for hosting
cinder wind
Thanks for hosting @split gazelle !
lyric frost
Thanks Liz 😄
split gazelle
thanks folks!
inner spade
Thanks!
sand lotus
Neat show & tell as always. Great projects.
pastel bison
Christopher Netherton
I purchased 4 of the Hallowing #4300 boards yesterday and was wondering if here was a code sample to synchronize left/right eye movements. Any starting point would be appreciated.
sand lotus
Todbots eye code is synchronized because it’s a mirrored display.
upbeat coral
@pastel bison You may wanna look at the Adafruit Monster M4sk. Product ID 4343. There are several guides
sand lotus
It’s not specifically for the hallowing so it’ll work on almost any board running circuit python.
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/zkDkHJCY9H8
sand lotus
PaintYourDragon has some learn guide examples for the hallowing, pretty sure.
viral sail
Good evening.
open girder
10% discount code, code is: touchscreen http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time
brazen quail
Keepin' it real in 'rado. Hola to all.
sand lotus
I have 2 coasters, they’re snazzy swag. Look and work great.
brazen quail
Feather version soon ?
sand lotus
Feather coasters? Maybe for a shot glass.
proven crow
Crazy idea: a coaster that is also a microcontroller with NeoPixels!
brazen quail
Feather coasters? Maybe for a shot glass.
I like your thinking. I was speaking of the new race 🚗 (instead of Arduino form factor).
sand lotus
Liquid + electronics don’t mix well together typically…
brazen quail
Liquid + electronics don’t mix well together typically…
Just coat it.
dim knot
cinder wind
Todbots eye code is synchronized because it’s a mirrored display.
and that's just the eyes in my face
cinder wind
The lead singer for The Cure knows how to code USB?!? omgomgomgomg
shell mason
HAL9000 had feature of lip reading
sand lotus
This is when we learned giving ai camera access was a bad idea… yet here we are.
tulip canyon
The lead singer for The Cure knows how to code USB?!? omgomgomgomg
I don't care if Monday's blue
Tuesday's grey and Thursday too
Friday, I don't care about you
It's Wednesday, I'm in love
Edge Impulse is impressive, and local
sand lotus
MTV AMP! Adafruit edition
open girder
factory footage seems like footage that could be used in a variety of industrial music videos, so may has well
shell mason
you could perhaps make a mouth rig what is using some puppeteer tricks then ai with cam focus on the mouth try to detect what is said like person who cant hear could
cinder wind
you could perhaps make a mouth rig what is using some puppeteer tricks then ai w...
Use one of the Person Sensor boards. They're a lot of fun: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/21231
sand lotus
🆕
shell mason
todbot nice, that to make bot like HAL 9000 what use LLM models for it
dim knot
Square RGB TTL TFT Display - 3.4" 480x480 No Touchscreen - TL034WVS05-B1477A https://www.adafruit.com/product/5825
Rectangle RGB TTL TFT Display - 3.2" 320x820 No Touchscreen - TL032FWV01-I1440A https://www.adafruit.com/product/5828
Rectangle Bar RGB TTL TFT Display - 3.2" 320x820 with Cap Touch - TL032FWV01CT-I1440A https://www.adafruit.com/product/5797
Square RGB 666 TTL TFT Display - 4" 720x720 - No Touchscreen - TL040HDS20-B1502A https://www.adafruit.com/product/5795
Adafruit Feather M4 CAN Express with ATSAME51 https://www.adafruit.com/product/4759
USB C to USB C Cable w/ 100W Watt Display - 1 meter Black Woven https://www.adafruit.com/product/5789
TFT FeatherWing - 2.4" 320x240 Touchscreen For All Feathers - V2 https://www.adafruit.com/product/3315
echo canopy
Question—- what determines the product pick of the week ? Just curious… always wondered if it was random or ?
slow spire
@open girder As MagPi notes, you can subscribe to both MagPi and Hackspace, which I did, and get two "Priority Boarding Codes".
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. ⭕
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us
lyric frost
👋
tulip canyon
Thanks @open girder and community!
sand lotus
Thank you for another great episode. Have a great week everyone!
slow spire
Pi 4 is still great. It's broadly supported with mature code, libraries, and hardware. Pi 5 should be solid, but I'd expect that even with one in hand, some things will need revisions; for example, the GPU hardware/software stack has changed.
Thanks @open girder!
dawn bear
Anyone here?
inner spade
Hello!
haughty quiver
hi!
lavish patrol
Hi, all.
dawn bear
Hello from Los Angeles
drowsy inlet
hello all
lavish patrol
Do not raise until small doors have been secured.
sand lotus
Howdy all
dawn bear
@inner spade I have been reading all of your articles. Thanks!
inner spade
<@339922377746022402> I have been reading all of your articles. Thanks!
You’re welcome.
sand lotus
It’s not loud enough to be a bother.
lavish patrol
It's barely audible.
ivory flax
Afternoon JP
drowsy inlet
inner spade
You’re welcome.
Got to document the fun stuff!
cinder wind
What's going on here? Channels? Is this some sort of radio station?
sand lotus
coupon code today is brick-glove 👍
clever summit
🇸🇪 😎
lavish patrol
Good evening @clever summit
clever summit
And a good evening to you mr. Callaway!
lavish patrol
Well, that just spoils it...
lavish patrol
Lol
sand lotus
Which in the US is a post in the ground.
clever summit
Planes are freight as well.
lavish patrol
It depends on whether you are in Business class or economy...
clever summit
Lol
sand lotus
Didn’t know last_duration is a thing in the debouncer library. Great parsec.
lavish patrol
Lol. The glove also starts up the compressor...
sand lotus
Sounds a little low
dawn bear
I can hear it but also a bit of the compressor
lavish patrol
It fits like a glove...
cinder wind
totally need a little 1/4" thick opaque ring or disk to optically isolate the sensor from surrounding illumination. maybe like one of these https://amzn.to/3Fibglv
spiral vale
Clip Launcher / sample or loop player
shell mason
how lego mindstorms color sensor works https://ev3-help-online.api.education.lego.com/Retail/en-us/ColorSensor.html
regal plover
Publishing the Lego plans would be great - thanks JP
cinder wind
well heck, my color sensor detects black just fine
sand lotus
On the electronics end, the EV3 color sensor contains a tri-color LED, which it turns on one at a time. A sensor (...maybe a Light Dependent Resistor, but there are other options) makes 3 measurements to determine how much light gets reflected back when each LED is turned on, and one more measurement with all LEDs turned off to determine the ambient light. The last measurement is then subtracted from the rest to cancel out the effects of the ambient light. This is for the mindstorm sensor.
inner spade
@haughty quiver LED brightness is in mA but with a resolution of 4mA. The next brightness current value is 8 for 8mA.
cinder wind
close the file and open it fresh
also press RESET on the board
oh! it's because you're printing out stuff before it's available to your host's USB. If you Ctrl-C then Ctrl-D to restart your code, you'll see your print
lavish patrol
Python sometimes does weird things like that.
shell mason
lars python code make things interesting
sand lotus
Great library @inner spade!
lavish patrol
ExaHertz?
inner spade
Great library <@339922377746022402>!
Thanks. Happy that it landed in another project!
spiral vale
someone set him up the learn
spiral vale
PSU - monster eurorack power
sand lotus
12V 48A PSU, very nice.
shell mason
at least mindstorm color sensor measusurement details
sand lotus
I’ve never seen one with breadboard connections on the back. That’s great. 4V output is indeed weird.
shell mason
there is some PSU what provide lots of power
sand lotus
I wouldn’t want to put 48A through a breadboard wire. 😬
lavish patrol
🤔
sand lotus
I’ll check out writing something up in playground when I get home.
cinder wind
got it: CGrover == Jan == CedarGroveStudios
sand lotus
Thanks for another great episode JP. 👍
lavish patrol
Thanks, @haughty quiver 👍
drowsy inlet
thanks jp!
inner spade
Thanks JP! Good luck with the workshop roof!
shell mason
some could not simly desitgn blinka glove what have power glove features with sensor for color and distance
sand lotus
That’s why we have JP, always doing super cool stuff.
haughty quiver
Thanks!
sand lotus
Good afternoon @smoky island
brazen grove
tgif
grand tusk
Howdy all! 👋
sand lotus
Looking forward to learning about this new blinka displayio stuff.
fallow fractal
hey question on that
how does the blinka work for the RP2040 devices,
does it emulate? a translation layer?
keen night
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
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fallow fractal
interpreted?
sand lotus
Micropython and circuit python are both interpreted vs arduino for example which is compiled.
They’re not classified as RTOS but it’s close to RTOS in my opinion.
brazen grove
you have to call init and create the window before you can start consuming events in pygame
maybe search for pygame.init()?
exceptions inside of threads don't crash the main app
it's super weird
it got an exception and the thread got terminated
since _core is added at runtime, pycharm will know nothing about it
sand lotus
Why install blinka for micropython instead of just running micropython?
I’ve still yet to ever use micropython.
Ah ok
sand lotus
Print with fstring instead?
brazen quail
Double buffering ?
grand tusk
It's a tough puzzle.
I'm trying to use Blinka from Pyodide.
Yeah, python in the browser.
sand lotus
Hey it’s progress!
brazen quail
Thanks for taking the time to share. It was great chillin' with y'all. May your weekend be full of breakthroughs, in whatever endeavor you choose.
sand lotus
Thanks for the episode. Blinka displayio seems more complicated.
grand tusk
Thanks Tim!
smoky island
I'm getting started for the morning. Working on RTD and release for a new library. You can follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnLK54lXTdM or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch
brisk bone
Hello
I see you are finishing the template engine, after the release I will push a PR for httpserver with examples of templating
inner spade
Hello! ☕
brisk bone
github caches images in md files
gmail does something similar, it aims to prevent sending emails with images on remote servers, which you could then replace on the server thus updating already sent email
i believe github does it to prevent changes in README render unless there was a change in repo itself
yeah, these thing that should "just work", when they don't, it is really annoying
inner spade
Used Adafruit IO for something similar. PyPortal for workshop data with a Feather S2 uploading regional data from openweathermap.
inner spade
Thanks for today’s stream.
sand lotus
Missed the stream and also my flight. 😔
open girder
Desk of Ladyada - Pi 5 is Alive & The Great Search - Connector and Cable for Raspberry Pi 5 UART https://youtu.be/CaL7iSzl6j4
👋
verbal river
🥧🥧🥧🥧🥧
open girder
🥧 5️⃣
fallow fractal
any thoughts if they are going make the same form factor for the Pi Compute or if that would change
open girder
we think the CM modules are probably not going to change formfactor...but we're also not the designers 🙂
glad mortar
its a really nice board design, its nice to see all these small improvements made with each generation
open girder
🪄 
glad mortar
there is analog but unfortunately not in an accessible way
but there is PIO, no driver yet but thats gonna be super useful for neopixels
omg yes that change made me very gumpy to say the least
I wish they would just make python venv aware instead of dragging on this mess. It's just not user friendly
open girder
It is going to definitely be a Thing that needs to be well documented for folks to be able to use the many tutorials online
verbal river
Bye
inner spade
@smoky island your music track is bleeding through to YouTube.
clever summit
Hey Tim.
sand lotus
good afternoon ☕
home from a 2 week vacation. i feel like hammered 💩 someone on my flight got me sick. i was wearing a mask too. also have a horrible toothache and can't concentrate on anything.
inner spade
And thanks for the Community Bundle merge this morning. JP wanted to use the helper in a learning guide project.
clever summit
And I am struggling with advanced c++ stuff. Getting c style callbacks to call methods of a class instance. That syntaxz makes my head hurt.
sand lotus
root_group show is going to break everything prior. good opportunity to break a bunch of other stuff for 9.0 too.
oh that's right. i just never used in 8.x. old habits.
oh didn't know project bundle were pulled from github. never noticed that.
ahh that's a nice way to do it. seems like pulling everything from github for learn guides is a better way to go in the future.
this means you have trawl through every learn guide looking for discrepancies? oof.
can update a lot of them secrets to settings.toml
clever summit
So I got my callback to work. Looks like this.
_buttonFrontLeft->attachClick([](void* scope) {((WOPRBoard *) scope)->_buttonFrontLeftClick();}, this);
I asked ChatGTP to break it down for me and explain. Still not sure what it does. or why it works. 🙂
void* is a classic. A pointer to nothing?
sand lotus
regexer looks very handy. adding to my bookmarks. 🙌
it is possible to mouse wheel so much that it breaks. i've gone through multiple cheapie logitech basic mice where the scroller broke after about 6 months.
it's one of those paint in the air with leds things
philb is known for that kind of thing
sand lotus
thank you for the stream.
inner spade
Thanks!
clever summit
👋
rapid hornet
`void*` is a classic. A pointer to nothing?
pointer to anything is the way I think about it
clever summit
That is not what that word means. 🙂
haughty quiver
hi there!
inner spade
Hello!
regal plover
Hello JP
twin spoke
@haughty quiver always enjoy your show, friend.
ivory flax
Hey JP. Hope it's quite around your workshop today
open surge
good afternoon
haughty quiver
thanks and welcome @twin spoke !
little onyx
Hello all, looking forward to the big show
twin spoke
hey there everyone else joining in
inner spade
A train full of Lars. Egads.
haughty quiver
planning on 20 minutes of the Lars Commuter Express rolling down the track into my gullet, but may pivot to something else
haughty quiver
It is decidedly fancy!
fallow fractal
is it possible to pair this a feather? i use the LoRa feather wing in my projects.
cinder wind
that's a fancy arduino uno. fancier than r4?
R4 is faster chip (M4 vs M0) and R4 has WiFi & BLE in WiFi version, but R4 only has 264kB flash and Metro RP2040 has 16MB of flash (!) and an SD card slot
austere pollen
what a steal
waxen bough
Half dozen for me. I'll find a use...
austere pollen
philhower-core = ♥️
Just keep in mind that RP2040 is 3.3V and has way lower max current per pin than Arduino Uno R3
twin spoke
the pins put out 5V though, yes? most of the arduino shields expect 5V, right?
tiny grove
the pins put out 5V though, yes? most of the arduino shields expect 5V, right?
It's hit and miss.
timid plover
tiny grove
As a general rule though I dislike the Uno form factor.
timid plover
it was product 2078
austere pollen
I don't think I've ever seen anyone say "I really like the uno form factor" 😝
tiny grove
Point taken.
shell mason
lars DJ with lars own MP3 player
twin spoke
i loved the uno form factor when i was getting started. it was just "ok, wire goes in here...", and blink!
tiny grove
The fact that it's as common as it is now is sad though.
austere pollen
In the year 2123 some brand new quantum-computer based microcontroller will get released. That chip will be intended for actual AI and almost light-speed travelling spaceships.
First dev board for said new microcontroller in 2123?
UNO FORM FACTOR
(ping me if I'm right)
hasty loom
Can use an Airlift shield?
austere pollen
Tbh if you want wifi why not get a pico w?
(of course that's not uno form factor. And you need separate SD breakout. And it doesn't have Stemma QT. And no USB-C 😆)
Earlephilhower recently added a bunch of wifi stuff for different wifi chips... But i really don't know if airlift was part of that. Or if airlift always worked or what its current status is
hasty loom
Thanks - I have pico w, but gotta get one of these and maybe try! I also ordered a resistive touch shield.
cinder wind
When Pirates are prototyping, they love Arrrduino-format boards
austere pollen
👋
verbal river
Bye
haughty quiver
thanks much!
inner spade
Thanks!
waxen bough
When Pirates are prototyping, they love Arrrduino-format boards
And it's hard to cry when the board you blow is only $7.50 (You bought more than one, didn't you?)
haughty quiver
is it possible to pair this a feather? i use the LoRa feather wing in my project...
you should be able to run most FeatherWings on it via jumper wires
haughty quiver
https://www.adafruit.com/product/2078?gclid=Cj0KCQjw4bipBhCyARIsAFsieCz0znwveNlE...
oh wow, i bought mine back in 2016
twin spoke
us tinkerers/makers are getting old
all the kids on my first robotics team want to go buy those standalone addressable led arrays that you control with your phone. i shake my old man fist at them and tell them they don't deserve a rainbow effect until they struggle against a library for several hours.
cinder wind
"back in my day we had to build Arduinos from a bunch of sticks and a bag of rocks!"
twin spoke
"we compiled our code with an abacus"
hasty loom
Anybody else learn assembly pgming on Apple IIe in the 80's? 😀
viscid bolt
Atari 400 assembler for me.
inner spade
Anybody else learn assembly pgming on Apple IIe in the 80's? 😀
After learning assembly on a variety of DEC PDP computers (and others).
hard hollow
hey folks!
rocky reef
good moring folks!
vagrant flax
wise iris
good morning!
rocky reef
vagrant flax
With some modding this could be an awesome remote for all my WLED devices lol
shell mason
tiny grove
shell mason
one not simply put rectangle TFT screen for it
vagrant flax
I really like the idea of separating the component mounts into their own parts. I feel like these could be reused on other projects
Sweet, I have a bunch of LED noodles looking for a project 😄
unreal bay
Nice, PLA or PETG, surprised it isn't really fragile
well done for getting the jump on Xmas
Yay, love the cad models, thanks
vagrant flax
Oh this might be nice for making gadgets that power 12v LED strips 🤔
shell mason
LED noods could be nice for clothes too for dark times as winter
vagrant flax
I've used that LED driver for driving N00Ds before, it works great
oh yeah I made that lamp! 😄
That was an awesome project
vagrant flax
Tiny Epcot 😮
shell mason
the las vegas have spere too
vagrant flax
Thanks 😄 I took advantage of the fact that the actual power switch is on the bottom so I made it cycle modes every time you power cycled
Thanks for the show!
wise iris
thanks guys
shell mason
other game franchise https://www.printables.com/model/124750-omni-tool-omni-blade-templates-for-laser-cutting
hard hollow
thanks folks! cya tonight
rocky reef
thanks so much or hanging out folks!
cedar loom
I'd like to show off my new Dotstar algorithm for unlocking high dynamic range
open surge
good evening
tulip canyon
Hey All!
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
open girder
Link to join to show and share your project! https://streamyard.com/geyv8edmr6 & WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/lnRQvBsdWt8
inner spade
Hello!
sage aspen
Hello
sand lotus
Good evening
lilac tusk
oh wow, that's really cool 🙂
sand lotus
Nice upgrade to the color chooser.
cinder wind
Thanks Melissa!
sage aspen
Thanks, her name is Lola
dawn bear
Mine is Penelope Pie Von Punkypuss
sage aspen
She's been in a couple of the guides I've written too
dawn bear
@sage aspen can she code? 😄
sand lotus
merge all the things!
sage aspen
<@478616919721771019> can she code? 😄
She tries by walking on the keyboard, but hasn't produced anything without syntax errors.
lilac tusk
I love when we can get cool upstream MP stuff 🙂
sand lotus
has she tried catgpt?
rapid hornet
lilac tusk
Ohh legos and LEDs 🤩
And touch
And sound. My son would love to do something like this 🤓
cinder wind
has she tried catgpt?
now we're listening to ChatJEP
lilac tusk
Lol
sand lotus
cool spooky lego set
gray obsidian
Must not show this to my nephew…
cinder wind
It's not widely known that JP is actually made of Lego
lilac tusk
And Lars is actually a master builder
dawn bear
Thats what those bumps are
tulip canyon
The wireless LED lego set JP did was awesome too
sand lotus
ohh make a lego lars minifig
gray obsidian
(I'm uncle Lego)
dawn bear
So you make MMUs out of little tiny legos
sand lotus
i like the idea of an induction build plate with wireless LED's for lamps and stuff
lilac tusk
If only Lego embraced illegal build methods and open source
gray obsidian
😄
proven crow
If only Lego embraced illegal build methods and open source
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe...
haughty quiver
i like the idea of an induction build plate with wireless LED's for lamps and st...
we've got a guide for that 🙂 https://learn.adafruit.com/wireless-leds-for-model-making
sand lotus
the side mounted rotary encoder knob is impressive
dim knot
dawn bear
Lego should license your likeness @haughty quiver
lilac tusk
the side mounted rotary encoder knob is impressive
I’ve been considering something similar for a volume knob for a gameboy type thing I’m thinking on
gray obsidian
Oh Now I have another idea for a workshop at the fablab!
dawn bear
Can I ask "ChatbotGPT make me an image of someone out of legos." ?
sand lotus
multi-color printing looks nice too
proven crow
Can I ask "ChatbotGPT make me an image of someone out of legos." ?
Writing prompts for stable diffusion and DALL-E is an art!
echo canopy
Is that being powered by a lipo ?
gray obsidian
I'm afraid I can't let you print that!
sand lotus
if I had an AI preventing me from printing something I'd jettison it's mainboard into space too
cinder wind
Looks awesome @hard hollow ! I love doing layer swaps for labels and accent colors
proven crow
I'm afraid I can't let you print that!
shell mason
sand lotus
Gameboi! have been following skerrs progress, looking great.
shell mason
DJJdevon so you would jettison ai from airlock?
sand lotus
sure why not. what's the worst that could happen.
haughty quiver
@lilac tusk that is great! 🐄
lean wolf
GamePlayer™️
lilac tusk
<@728676724522352733> that is great! 🐄
sand lotus
When I was using Arduino i loved FastLED. It has a ton of features.
lilac tusk
I haven't had a reason to use dotstars, but now I have some ideas lol
sand lotus
especially loved the automatic milliamp draw limiter
verbal river
Loch Queens Monster! 🐉
haughty quiver
@neat geyser how much is a ticket on the subway serpent from Queens to Zaqistan?
viral sail
Good evening everyone.
lilac tusk
you can tell it's official art by the way that it is
tulip canyon
Thanks all for sharing. always great projects
sand lotus
amazing project Joey. You're getting really good with solar projects!
upbeat coral
Thanks to all for taking time for us
inner spade
Wonderful projects everyone! Thanks!
gray obsidian
Thanks!
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/9FDmZbyjVwE
10% discount code, code is: sidepower http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time
dim knot
gray obsidian
I should really finish at least one project someday so I can pop up in Show & Tell 😅
lilac tusk
I should really finish at least one project someday so I can pop up in Show & Te...
Bring your work in progress 🤓
tulip canyon
@open girder Was that chip intro segment inspired by Sesame Street "Dot bridge" segments?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgWouececk4
gray obsidian
Bring your work in progress 🤓
That I have quite many 😄
proven crow
I should really finish at least one project someday so I can pop up in Show & Te...
Bring it unfinished! I'm guilty of that... many times...
open girder
@tulip canyon yah, pretty much most things i really like are 🙂
gray obsidian
I recall a place once which had a "busversif", a police bus protruding from the building. No lighting or what, but very funny.
Wait, isn't the connector documented in the schematics?
hides
wild urchin
Reminds me that I need to find my calipers.
gray obsidian
That's more flower(computing)power than all the computers I have here 😄
sand lotus
That's a lot of esp32 and ws2812's, whew.
gray obsidian
lilac tusk
Piano dress 😲
gray obsidian
jellyfish!
proven crow
"I ❤️ Propane" 😄
gray obsidian
"I ❤️ PROPANE" 🤣
gray obsidian
I think you can probably force it regardless with some settings, but well, it's also a security thing
echo canopy
Could Chat GPT help with the rework for all the updates ?
gray obsidian
or curl|bash …
Python isn't JS yet, but there has been some malicious python packages already…
It's also because it messes up with Debian's own packaging of python stuff I think
tulip canyon
There is a reason for the command which python
gray obsidian
If anyone wants to volunteer you can also help packaging all these in Debian properly, but it's more involved
sand lotus
Who doesn't need a remote airhorn? Brilliant idea.
gray obsidian
or just keep the oopsy, it's funny 🙂
tulip canyon
I would handcuff it to my wrist. Just because.
gray obsidian
"It's the diplomatic suitcase!"
Oh I had a smaller version of this thing with a transistor and diode and you could make a radio receiver and other stuff!
cinder wind
ooo had one of those 150-n-1 Radio Shack kits when I was in grade school
gray obsidian
grandiose !
Knight Electronics… sounds like Knight Industries… KITT is just around the corner!
wild urchin
ooo had one of those 150-n-1 Radio Shack kits when I was in grade school
I bet mine is still in the attic somewhere.
Just like a man with a hammer, I look at this Lab kit and think about Eurorack circuitry.
gray obsidian
Like at least for the teacher so you can make sure it won't be scavenged for parts 🙂
sand lotus
🆕
lilac tusk
There’s someone out there seeing that kit and saying “you could replace the whole thing with a 555”
gray obsidian
but then you'd have an empty suitcase!
dim knot
10-pin 2x5 Socket-Socket 1.27mm IDC (SWD) Cable - 300mm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5804
lilac tusk
I saw this dev kit earlier. Pretty neat dev kit
dim knot
ESP32-S3 Korvo 2 Main Development Board https://www.adafruit.com/product/5829
Adafruit INA228 - I2C 85V, 20-bit High or Low Side Power Monitor - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/5832
gray obsidian
and it's working!
lilac tusk
Question: I mentioned in show and tell the Mini ESP32 doom player you made last year, any plans to revisit it and bring it to the shop?
gray obsidian
Does it still have issues with USB-C charging? 😅
echo canopy
Question @open girder
It’s always neat to see “ factory footage” during the show
Was curious if you have any monitoring of the machines with Adafruit products like an ESP32 board for remote monitoring or alerts
worthy merlin
What ever happened to AdaBox?
gray obsidian
PeerTube someday maybe?
developed by a French non-profit (Framasoft), there's live support now
Still needs some polishing though
proven crow
Q: What do you do with your prototype PCBs that don't work?
tacit pine
Have you guys heard avout GrayJay?
sand lotus
is that a gray jedi thing?
proven crow
Have you guys heard avout GrayJay?
YES! So excited for it!
tacit pine
third party plater/sub monitor tool
no mor alcgorithm getting in the way, and (potentilly) easliy follow craetors if they get kicked fromf platfomrs
gray obsidian
Ah yes saw Louis Rossmann's video on that. No smartphone here though. Ideally we'd still use RSS / podcast stuff for these, but eh 🤷
sand lotus
Question: Does adafruit have a flexible oled or TFT rgb display? I'm looking for something inside a helmet visor and flexible e-ink won't work at night.
worthy merlin
Cool! I love them and I love you guys!
tacit pine
GrayJay is more of a curation tookl, not platfom on it's own(yet, anyway).
sand lotus
Yeah they're pricey and on the slowboat. Was looking for something quick for Halloween last minute idea.
gray obsidian
yt wants me to watch LoFi Girl again but I only had 4 hours the other day… I want my Macintosh recaping video recommandations back! 😄
lilac tusk
One last question: any chance you could bring those super small HDMI displays for VR to the shop?
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us.
gray obsidian
Thanks! n8 everyone!
verbal river
Bye
lilac tusk
Thanks Adafruit ❤️
sand lotus
Thank you for another exciting episode. See you next week. Same bat time, same bat channel. 🦇
wild urchin
Thank you very much!
tulip canyon
Thanks @open girder Have a great night all
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌒
lilac tusk
Post the wrong place:
here’s an official source. A bit pricy but pretty cool https://www.displaymodule.com/collections/micro-oled
sterile forge
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
sterile forge
anybody know if there is a JP wordshop today
mild sapphire
Dunno. Maybe not? I wasn't here last week, did he say he'd be off?
dry marten
ivory flax
he talked about skipping todays show last week for construction work around his home
sterile forge
thanks for the info. Now i remember that.
unreal bay
NYC Open House Weekend, factory footage stream: https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OztzqvbQ62E
fallow fractal
i love these factory videos
unreal bay
same, wonder if it's all weekend 😉
fallow fractal
i hope
waxen bough
Aww, they just showed Adabox packaging. 😢
I love these factory videos, but I was expecting more of a virtual walkthrough. More like a drone-camera (or mobile cameraman) tour with descriptive narrative.
unreal bay
Still fascinating, never seen that pin/post placement before, for supporting the boards, clever to cnc everything I suppose
waxen bough
Mesmerizing. I have to turn it off because I have work to do!
unreal bay
lol, know the feeeling, about to do some serious gaming, so distracting
The window decorations are top notch 🙂
gusty wedge
Hi from Costa Rica.
timid plover
Hi from Costa Rica.
Hello
glad mortar
heyy
timid plover
the news seems to indicate a cold spell is approaching
glad mortar
feels like ages since I last tuned in
dawn bear
Los Angeles here. newbie
timid plover
does your computer heat up the room?
dawn bear
Thanks!
Yeah it has been hotter in Seattle the Los Angeles!
Nice and comfy here at 21C
Yeah I am a software guy... since 1985!! C, C++, JVM, and now some micro python
Yeah I am near the beach
This is my first board
For python
proper prawn
Hi Scott and all present
glad mortar
how do you deal with deprication like that, does it log a warning if the old name is used?
dawn bear
All from adafruit. Trying to make sure you get paid. https://www.adafruit.com/product/5096?
glad mortar
makes sense, so more convivence for "core" users and less for staying compatible to "wild" old code?
interesting board
dawn bear
SO python does not have like deprecated annotations like JVM languages? Newbie to a lot pf python
tiny grove
It has DeprecationWarning.
unreal bay
oh that collection of old bundles is a golden nugget, thanks
tiny grove
Well, CPython has it, don't know if CircuitPython does.
dawn bear
I know this is Deep Dive, but can I use Python plugin in IntelliJ with Circuit Python? Or VS Code... again I know this is Deep Dive not beginner.
So you just use VI? Or EMACS?
dawn bear
Understood. I have used sublime
glad mortar
it was my editor for a really long time but made the switch to VScode last year, the remote development tools they added were a huge timesaver for RPI work
dawn bear
Alot to learn.
glad mortar
(or any time you work with something that runs ssh)
dawn bear
I am so used to never leaving the IDE.
timid plover
@glad mortar - just noticed the new PicoVision ! ( looking forward to understanding your dual ram system ) https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/picovision
glad mortar
oh you might be confusing me, I don't work for Pimoroni 🙂
timid plover
sorry
glad mortar
nw
timid plover
speaking of converting formats, I just came across https://pandoc.org/ yesterday - many different conversions available markdown, LaTeX etc
dawn bear
It was the hardware Atari 800 manual.
timid plover
it has wifi and sort of bank switching / frame buffering
glad mortar
oh btw Scott have you seen the flow3r badge we made for CCCamp23?
Pimoroni has fantastic board graphics for sure
wind spoke
And shared memory in between (or dual access memory).
glad mortar
ah cool 🙂
yea its a flower shape touch synth with round display.
and yea ESP32-S3 and a bunch of sensors
MPY but a lot of stuff running behind the scenes on IDF
wind spoke
Real beginer use Circuit Python... did they start to push a new board?
glad mortar
forking MPY seems popular heh
wind spoke
And now they have at least two forks... it not more.
dawn bear
So CP does not have hardware interrupts? But you can drive a display? Huh... a lot to learn
glad mortar
and I mean a whole RP2040 dedicated to display tasks only
dawn bear
I see.
wind spoke
Maybe you have a plan to do EYESPI to DVI... what would be the resolution?
dawn bear
Well I must run... you all have been very kind with my lack of no-how yet thank you
glad mortar
we do have mpg video playback too now, which is a fun feature
yea there is mp3 too
most of that work done by the creator of the graphics library
for anyone interested in the hardware: https://git.flow3r.garden/flow3r/flow3r-hardware
unfortunately I think upstreaming any of those things is a bit tough as the firmware had to be GPL due to the ctx dependency. I'm not sure MPY allows GPL?
timid plover
an excellent title
ornate coyote
Wow, missed your stream @rapid hornet !!!!
glad mortar
you were just mentioned @ornate coyote 🙂
ornate coyote
Yes, I was told.. hahaha, that's why I jumped in 🙂 Wanted to watch anyway.
I'm about to PR 2 new boards to 8.2.x
Oh, I got shamed? What did I do ?
paper peak
we only sold 20, including internal
ornate coyote
Ahh, I totally forgot - I was working on these new boards in CP.
paper peak
no problem, this is needed too
timid plover
we only sold 20, including internal
was that the Rev A pictured here: https://www.adafruit.com/product/5500
paper peak
you really slimmed down sdkconfig, so Imagine that's the major change
rapid hornet
timid plover
it was free - registers - didn't notice the 7am start time - "October 26th: Bluetooth App Development with CircuitPython "
lyric frost
It's probably me (or maybe my browser) but haven't found the registration link on that page :/
timid plover
I clicked the link - it registered on the form on the right side
lyric frost
Weird, I don't get the right side, maybe my ad-blocker....
glad mortar
thats cool, vendors usually don't care about things like that. Esp. industrial heavy ones like SiLabs
lyric frost
Yep, pi-hole was eating it 😄
timid plover
Yep, pi-hole was eating it 😄
why do you think pi-hole did that ?
glad mortar
oh yea the spresense was wild to see
lyric frost
They're probably using some infrastructure service that's also used by advertisers. I don't fine tune the block lists much, just disable it when I have problems
ornate coyote
PSRAM is 2MB not 8MB - Flash is 8MB
Board HW changed 2 days ago.. finally got my new Silicon,
thanks 🙂
yes
timid plover
PSRAM is 2MB not 8MB - Flash is 8MB
any product links please ?
ornate coyote
Scott - did this the other day (in CP of course)
https://twitter.com/unexpectedmaker/status/1714888025136865787
No, sorry...
shell mason
not asking bluesky link
left pier
👋
timid plover
it seems clumsy to get a mastadon account - and I still learn things from twitter
glad mortar
I'm sad that my feed hide so many people because of timezone differences. A bit of algorithm would be nice to have
lyric frost
I haven't been on Twitter/X for ages, you can still view limited links like UM's
ornate coyote
Scott - Dropbox link for he video...
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kh5n7232f0x92g3t939bl/blizzards3_3d_circuitpython.mov?rlkey=cvzklvhlyehvdtt98v03ylwby&dl=0
left pier
Principles and Values ... sheesh 😉
ornate coyote
I got blocked out of my bluesky account 3 times in a row and gave up.
left pier
Audio could be heard
glad mortar
I enjoyed BlueSky so far but its very early days still and very buggy
ornate coyote
that's 320x240 @ 256 colours as using internal SRAM, but now have PSRAM for framebuffer so can do 640x480 16bit colour and maybe 720p with 256 colours.
All graphics code in CircuitPython.
glad mortar
nice
ornate coyote
We looked at adding displayio, but was a lot of work and stuff I didn't understand - but the plan was to add that at some stage, or the community can add it 😉
Yes, the S3 writes to the ICE40 framebuffer - just via SPI
glad mortar
BlueSky is a public benefit corporation, not sure how different that is to a non-profit, not very knowledgable about US setups.
They are fully open source too though and will federate once out of closed beta.
ornate coyote
Yes, with 8MB of PSRAM
glad mortar
my hope there will just be a bridge between AT and ActivityPub down the line
ornate coyote
No, we are pushing pixel data via SPI atm, so we don't have to worry about specific gateware for now... very little FPGA knowledge here atm 😉
left pier
@ornate coyote , I'm curious... how do you decide to make a new board? Do you have specific use cases in mind or is just more about combining hardware in ways and seeing what people make with it ?
ornate coyote
<@195765176035835904> , I'm curious... how do you decide to make a new board? Do...
I try to make products that I find interesting, that usually solves something I either dislike in other "options" or that I can't find elsewhere.
left pier
the Adafruit angle was cool, thanks Scott !
ornate coyote
But the BlizzardS3 was specifically to see if I can solve the "FPGAs" can be intimidating for MCU users.
glad mortar
thats def. a hard issue
ornate coyote
We have custom TinyUF2 that allows people to drag bitstreams on the drive for the ICE40, plus you can also just drag them into your CPY drive too and have it just work.
glad mortar
oh thats sweet
easy programming without tons of toolchains is def. part of the problem/missing piece
lyric frost
Dinner bell, thanks Scott!
glad mortar
Software is the other big piece, writing HDL is generally just not a very approachable thing. I think Amaranth has potential to solve that
ornate coyote
Yes, but they have to convert the bitstream to uf2 for it to work - we dont. Just drag it on and it works 🙂
Yes 🙂
We faked the fakeness of TinyUF2 !
glad mortar
whitequark does a lot of work to make it less difficult, I think these days you don't need to compile anything anymore thanks to wasm
timid plover
waiting for https://www.crowdsupply.com/1bitsquared/glasgow
it uses Amaranth too
timid plover
when the test results say "Crash" what actually happens
so onboard testing .rosie.yml was not a success ?
I look forward to the day when reliable onboard embedded testing can be done
ornate coyote
I'd love to find a few weeks I could just sit and focus and really start to learn FPGA stuff. I find it's not something I can just learn a bit at a time, especially when I'm constantly in MCU land, jumping between CP/MP/C++.
glad mortar
for sure
for me its also difficult because I don't really have good applications at the end of the day
yea a more pick and place type thing would be nice
the commercial tools offer that but then you pay 15k$ to get the DSI feature
cost and availability of IP blocks def. another big thing missing from accessible FPGA
akin to open source software libraries
CPY would be of limited use if I had to write my own GPIO peripheral to do anything
timid plover
40 tests failed ? 😮 ?
glad mortar
oh wait you mean as in a fixed gateware to load?
that I also don't understand then 😄
ornate coyote
fixed compiled gateware for one off functions is ok - something I'll be doing for BlizzardS3 - like, here's a DVI/HDMI out binary... here's a neopixel driver binary etc.
but how to "I want DVI out and Neopixel out, and an I2C peripheral, and SPI one"...
glad mortar
yea thats what IP blocks would be for
and then wire those up to a new thing and compile that into new gateware
ornate coyote
yea thats what IP blocks would be for
Yup, but IP cores means people have to add them and the tool chains and build the output and problem solve etc... takes us back to FPGAs are hard and intimidating.
glad mortar
the big players have drag and drop UIs for that but agian, insanely expensive for anything but very well paid commercial applications and of course all closed source and big and clunky
timid plover
does git blame give any clues ?
glad mortar
Yup, but IP cores means people have to add them and the tool chains and build th...
I would say its a matter of the toolchains being quite unwildly atm.
If it were arduino style "just install this and click compile" would be a big step
there is not really a way around having to compile the gateware if you want to modify anything
ornate coyote
I would say its a matter of the toolchains being quite unwildly atm.
If it were ...
yeah, agreed. hats off to the OSS toolchain folks - but it's low level devs making low level tools for low level devs 😉
glad mortar
yea I'm never sure if there is just still a lot to be done on that end to allow for more high level things or if there is a lack of visible interest in these things
ornate coyote
IceStudio had some potential, but I'm not sire it's dvancing much - not last time I checked.
timid plover
so the format of the environment changed?
glad mortar
my main hurdle is that I don't want to become an expert in gateware design but you kinda have to be to get the interesting peripherals implemented
ornate coyote
yup - and it's not JUST that you need to become an expert in gateware design, but you also need to become an expert in the entire toolchain... for testing and simulation and optimisation etc
glad mortar
a lot of the stuff I'm interested in is just "adapt from x to y" or "adapt from a and b to c". Bridges and special function stuff and for that I would really only want pre-made IP blocks that I can blob together with some RAM or what not
but the interesting peripherals don't exist as open source 😄
that too, tho older stuff like HDMI 1.4 you can do in gateware
or rather with the generic serdes that is usually present
I don't mind the over time
timid plover
are you editing off screen ?
glad mortar
working on my own stuff on the side
ornate coyote
Oh, IceStudio got an update/release this month after almost 9 months, Nice!
woops, studio. silly fingers
timid plover
does your debug print trigger compare errors ( not sure where it was printing )
this will go from 40 back to 19 real soon
left pier
Test Driven OCD 🙂
glad mortar
thanks for streaming, have a nice evening!
ornate coyote
Thanks Scott !!!!
left pier
Always enjoyable to watch you solve problems. Thanks for the stream!
rapid hornet
thanks all!
timid plover
thank you
proper prawn
Thanks Scott. All a great weekend
sand lotus
Maybe Tim still asleep for Saturday?
smoky island
Just a few minutes behind. Getting going now on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1PKI-ZGcug
sand lotus
Ah I see it now. Good morning ☕
grand tusk
Good morning. 👋
sand lotus
Saw the comment on the PR for split displayio. Is that splitting to 3 displays?
Looks a lot like AdafruitIO. I would love to have a local only version, that's very nice.
clever summit
Hey Tim.
unreal bay
Hey tim, what's this running on software stack-wise for graphing
clever summit
Just grabbed a cup of ☕
unreal bay
Same, 4pm here, flagging time.
I assume this is the culmination of your template work too