live-broadcast-chat

[sand lotus]

This looks like a router turned into a dev board.

[ionic crag]

this looks like it was maybe targeted to home automation hub possiblities... with that much wireless

bridge

[sand lotus]

It's got a STEMMA port... it literally has everything.

[gray obsidian]

ah, single pair Eth

like the good old days, we exploited unused pairs on the telephone cable in the student residence, and had an ethernet hub somewhere, to share the DSL line…

[sand lotus]

what is mikrobus?

[haughty quiver]

🚌

[turbid hill]

Alice restaurant and the vw micro bus

[sand lotus]

Can always just interface some kind of GPIO breakout with all the peripherals, even USB or I2C. I mean STEMMA is a GPIO.

🆕

[haughty quiver]

@sand lotus we have a Feather to Mikrobus shield https://www.adafruit.com/product/4496

[sand lotus]

and bob's your uncle

[dim knot]

Aluminum PCB Coaster with Adafruit Logo (1:34) https://www.adafruit.com/product/5720

PCB Coaster with Gold Adafruit Logo (1:34) https://www.adafruit.com/product/5719

Panel Mount Kit for Raspberry Pi Camera Module 3 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5721

[ionic crag]

looks like it a "standard" that includes.... spi, i2c, usart

[dim knot]

Adafruit ADXL343 + ADT7410 Sensor FeatherWing https://www.adafruit.com/product/4147

Adafruit Metro ESP32-S2 https://www.adafruit.com/product/4775

[cinder wind]

Who do we petition to get it called the BOOP button instead?

[dim knot]

USB / DC / Solar Lithium Ion/Polymer charger - Rev C https://www.adafruit.com/product/390

[waxen thistle]

Very nice!

[slow spire]

So cuuuute!

[dim wigeon]

Those are adorable!

[sand lotus]

aww that's adorable! i need them. because all my sd cards look the same. added to cart.

[ionic crag]

it's the save icon

[dim knot]

Floppy Disk Costumes for SD Cards by Charlyn Gonda https://www.adafruit.com/product/5713

[slow spire]

Love the Micro SD drag

[gray obsidian]

yeah

[dim knot]

Adafruit RP2040 Feather ThinkInk with 24-pin E-Paper Display - STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/5727

[cinder wind]

a BOOP button

[sand lotus]

hmm if they hold their picture then an e-ink hub sounds doable where you can have them switch between them for a large bank of displays.

[slow spire]

@open girder do the 24-pin e paper pinouts vary much? Or are they sort of standard on signal types and power?

[verbal river]

Top secret? But this is discord!

[gray obsidian]

nice

in an ideal world vendors would publish the source code for their firmware and drivers but eh…

[sand lotus]

I love seeing open source assistive devices.

[slow spire]

Lovely

[sand lotus]

Great Scott!

[nova totem]

Worse part so far of working on DVI is giving up a monitor to debug on 🙂

[sand lotus]

DisplayIO to HDMI ❤️

All the work on DVI and synthio lately is appreciated. ❤️ Thank you to all the developers on the backend who make all these cool new features happen.

[slow spire]

@nova totem sometimes I use one of those USB HDMI capture adapters to create a virtual monitor on my MacBook.

[gray obsidian]

where's the cassette port? 😄

[nova totem]

I just thought of that today actually. And remembered I had bought one of the capture adapters

[sand lotus]

Yes PhilT I feel the same way. These are exciting times.

[dim wigeon]

The boundary between computer and microcontroller is becoming fuzzier and fuzzier.

[strong acorn]

Ship of Theseus

[pearl shoal]

The ship of Theseus

Darn it

🙂

[cinder wind]

Chip of Theseus

[slow spire]

I also finally broke down and bought a portable battery powered HDMI display for when I’m at Starbucks or traveling.

[nova totem]

@open girder How do you flash your NRF52840 boards you have? Is it just via the SWDIO/SWDCLK pins?

[sand lotus]

Any plans to make a module for USB PD that breaks out to 5V & 3.3V, those are what I use most so a module would be great.

Like a buck from 24V to 12V/5V/3.3V would be awesome.

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for another excellent evening of shows! Special thanks to Liz and Erin for hosting Show & Tell!

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌑

[dim wigeon]

Thanks for a great show, @open girder !

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[slow spire]

Thanks, @open girder ! 💕

[sand lotus]

Thank you for more amazing developments. Have a lovely week!

[nova totem]

Thanks for the show and question answer

[upbeat coral]

Adabox?

[gray obsidian]

thanks!

[verbal river]

Bye!

[cinder wind]

Now we can do HDMI Throwies

[sand lotus]

alright what's a throwie?

[open girder]

@cinder wind yah, we were talkin about that in our team meetin 🙂

[cinder wind]

https://www.instructables.com/LED-Throwies/

[sand lotus]

oh my

[gray obsidian]

then you make a robot to collect them back to leave nothing in the field 😄

[sand lotus]

ohhh i see where that's going. guerilla art is about to get an upgrade 😉

[verbal river]

also use the robot to throw them

[cinder wind]

a tank robot

[sand lotus]

if you need to put some LED's in a sewer... i might know a guy 🤣

[waxen thistle]

TMNT reruns

Shredder tested, Splinter approved.

[slow spire]

Train the robots to be super hungry for toast 🍞

[dim knot]

Night all!

[slow spire]

Thanks, @dim knot !

[lavish patrol]

Good evening all. 👋

🚀 🎆

[open surge]

good afternoon

[haughty quiver]

hi there!

[sand lotus]

Good afternoon

[inner spade]

Hello!

[split gazelle]

good afternoon folks

[haughty quiver]

ew why is that wave so messy?

now i'm scared of the other "super reactions"

[viscid bolt]

Good afternoon

[cinder wind]

is LCARS a type of LARS CAR

[lavish patrol]

I can barely hear the AC, @haughty quiver 👍

[verbal river]

I have some soldering to do, I guess this is a good time to do it.

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[sand lotus]

It's not too bad, barely audible fan.

[ivory flax]

Happy Thursday John

[inner spade]

The mic isn’t picking up the fan noise as well as your ears, @haughty quiver. ‘Sall good.

[lavish patrol]

NCC1701

[sand lotus]

What timeline though

[lavish patrol]

Lol

"I am Larcutis of Borg"

[grand tusk]

If things go wrong will it self-destruct?

[sand lotus]

The freebie does take into account total prior to coupon code. Trust in Adafruit to do the right thing. 👍

[lavish patrol]

My work here is done. 😄

[cinder wind]

I love Star Trek. I just watched that Bobby Fett show

[sand lotus]

I don't even know how many free permaproto's and pink Keeboar's I have now.

[lavish patrol]

@cinder wind 🤔

[sand lotus]

Bobby Fett lol

[cinder wind]

oh I mean Robert Fettuccine

[sand lotus]

oh that's a good one

[haughty quiver]

Roberto

[sand lotus]

That would make more sense.

[lavish patrol]

Lars has woken up...

[sand lotus]

ADSR for life!

You can do pretty much anything with an arpeggiator and ADSR

Dat Waveform Life ❤️

and when it refuses to delatch from release that's when you go for the midi panic

[grand tusk]

rah that will be awesome

[sand lotus]

that parsec says LCARS Display

[open surge]

that was interesting and educational

[cinder wind]

so you're saying you applied an envelope to the AC

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[verbal river]

he has an ADSR thermostat

[sand lotus]

Watching everyone play with synthio lately has got me all hot and bothered. You're all doing the lords work.

[cinder wind]

https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/7862

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-nod-oh-yeah-jeremiah-johnson-gif-13730953

[gray obsidian]

This PVM is sleeping on its side…

[shell mason]

lars display

welcome to LARS display

[gray obsidian]

Don't remember woodgrain on the Enterprise… was that on TOS?

[open surge]

TNG

[gray obsidian]

ok, I mostly watched the films, still have a lot to catchup 😅

I can already hear LGR scream WOODGRAIN

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/stfc-treasury-bug-gif-27147998

[gray obsidian]

All your cryptocurrency are belong to us!

[shell mason]

display could need impact resistance

[cinder wind]

yeah never know when a mad Data will come at it

[gray obsidian]

tilt it a little maybe?

[lavish patrol]

Noice.

[shell mason]

or mad DataLars

[gray obsidian]

you'll have to PWM

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-the-next-generation-data-data-shrugs-gif-21440586

[inner spade]

The PaletteFader library in the Community Bundle was originally designed to control RGB matrix brightness.

[cinder wind]

maybe run some copper tape along the dark areas and turn them into capsense sensors, so you could "control" it like Data

[gray obsidian]

Just put duct tape, it's the perfect width 😄

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-stacking-zoom-workers-gif-23553859

[gray obsidian]

nice result!

[cinder wind]

also, put it on WiFi and have it display the weather

[lavish patrol]

Duct tape. It's what hold the universe together.

[cinder wind]

and add a speaker so it can play Enterprise noises

[gray obsidian]

and it didn't explode 🙂

[sand lotus]

There's no weather in space though.

[open surge]

thanks JP, good show!

[lavish patrol]

Great show again, @haughty quiver

[sand lotus]

actually ambient temperature, UV stuff, space weather.. probably does exist.

[haughty quiver]

thanks so much all!

[gray obsidian]

n8!

[inner spade]

Thanks! Beautiful results!

[sand lotus]

Thanks JP! Love seeing the synthio stuff.

[cinder wind]

Space Weather!

[past swan]

I have this board. I can install a micropython UF2, and it reboots. Then I can access the REPL through MU. But I don't see it mounted as a drive and so don't know how to load the Lib files.

Do you know if there's a circuit python that works for it? I'm stumped

[open surge]

This isn't the right channel to get help, that would be #help-with-circuitpython - but to answer your question, this looks to be the right build: https://circuitpython.org/board/adafruit_feather_rp2040_rfm9x/

[sand lotus]

It's Foamy Friday!

[lyric sphinx]

Howdy! Got snow? This year is being dumb. We're back and forth between freezing and springing.

[sand lotus]

It hailed here a couple days ago... in Florida.

I think the TFT featherwing is bigger than that yeah

the 3.5" is 480x320

2.4" is 320x240, not sure which one you have.

[inner spade]

👋

[sand lotus]

The VCO wizard is here 🙂

[brazen chasm]

👋🇸🇪

[inner spade]

@sand lotus Updated ItsyBitsy breadboard adapters on order. I can send you one after/if it passes the tests.

[cinder wind]

Hi Tim! Thanks for making displayio better!

[inner spade]

The displayio super hero!

[sand lotus]

I would like that yes please feel free to DM me whenever you want.

Thank you @cinder wind for all the DVI and synthio progress. You're working on some really cool stuff.

[cinder wind]

none of it's possible without the wizards like Tim & jepler who can actually wrap their head around CircuitPython internals

[sand lotus]

and and PaintYourDragon too but he rarely hangs out here so usually don't tag him. 😉

yes and Jepler. If I had to thank everyone who does cool stuff around I'd be typing for hours. 😆

[inner spade]

Never thought that CircuitPython could have advanced to this level without FPGAs or some such hardware enhancement. Amazing and nearly magical progress!

[sand lotus]

Same, this year feels like the beginning of something special. No idea where it's headed but it feels right whatever it is.

[lyric frost]

Lots of builds being done on RP2040 with new dvi board, maybe a pi pico build

[sand lotus]

Pimoroni figured out a way with dual Pi Pico's do more with DVI. They're doing great stuff over there too.

[lyric frost]

I have seen the error, don't remember on which build, but didn't give any special build flags to get it

[sand lotus]

I think once the iMX features get sorted out it's going to open up so many new pathways to explore.

Tannewt has to live on the cutting edge of... everything.

[cinder wind]

yeah his apartment is just knives

[sand lotus]

in the form of devboards

[lyric frost]

remove first

I thought so, maybe not

[sand lotus]

yeah me and github apparently is a dangerous combination. one mistake and you can easily leak data you don't want to. removing Github history is a rabbit hole within a rabbit hole.

i have many explicit words about Github Desktop now, they don't have that feature.

[lyric frost]

Just got it on the SiLabs build lol

../../shared-module/vectorio/Circle.c: In function 'common_hal_vectorio_circle_get_pixel':
../../shared-module/vectorio/Circle.c:26:22: warning: taking the absolute value of unsigned type 'uint16_t' {aka 'short unsigned int'} has no effect [-Wabsolute-value]
26 | int16_t radius = abs(self->radius);
| ^~~
CC ../../shared-module/vectorio/init.c

[sand lotus]

display.root_group is the replacement for display.show right?

silabs is a brand new port

last week

[lyric frost]

I think you may need to get git-lfs, but I think the rest works normally

[sand lotus]

wasn't the issue only over 256? the built in tft not big enough?

[lyric frost]

That's right, without the git-lfs one of the clones during the fetch-submodules didn't work

[lyric frost]

Thanks foamyguy, Dinner Bell.... I'll have to catch the rest offline

[inner spade]

1 wide by 4 high could be used for vertical text, like along side a graphical axis.

Or for crossword puzzle answers.

But Label would work better for static content like that.

[upper sandal]

hello

[inner spade]

Can terminalio support a strip of segmented alphanumeric LED displays?

Oh, just tile grids.

[sand lotus]

the alphanumeric display uses the htkxxxx library

oh terminalio thought you meant displayio, yeah no clue

[inner spade]

(Sorry, was thinking out loud — again) 🤔

[sand lotus]

Thank you for the stream. See you tomorrow.

[inner spade]

Thanks for today’s stream. Hope to understand the internals someday.

[sand lotus]

FoamyGuy is live. Coffee & Code.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLRIqvUJesA

[smoky island]

Getting started for the morning now working on some network things. You can follow along on YT (link above) or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[sand lotus]

Mornin' ☕

[inner spade]

Hello! ☕

[sand lotus]

sythesizers...

[upper sandal]

hey, I loosely pinged you in the #circuitpython-dev channel about it, because you looked into something similar, but all of the libraries have their jQuery missing in RTD in the same way that CP did, except newly created RTD docs
I thought I would apply the same fix as for CP to cookiecutter, but it's not a cookiecutter issue, it's something to be fixed in the existing repos

there was an issue with Sphinx versions where kattni had to ask RTD to update somethign, maybe it's the same type of problem ?

[sand lotus]

Related to the RTD update perhaps?

[upper sandal]

I should file that in the CP repo maybe with the library tag

[sand lotus]

You covered that in a past stream having to do with line numbers showing up in old RTD examples.

[upper sandal]

all libraries I think

except new ones

I made a new library this week, it doesn't have the issue

an older library of mine does have the issue

[sand lotus]

monster mask is like 2-3 years old though for halloween. i can't remember what the exact date of the issue was from. i think it was like 5-7 years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtBgL-dog2E

not memory, just a youtube search on your channel 😉

which you can do on desktop but not on mobile for Youtube 😠

channel search is an extremely helpful feature. well, search in general is for anything.

[inner spade]

https://www.youtube.com/live/1IePYEqy4jw?feature=share

[sand lotus]

It was October 2020 with the Sphinx issue. Not as old as I thought... which does put monster mask and a lot of other stuff behind it.

solid green is good, orange usually denotes connection issue. Yellow is when it drops from full speed to 100Base-T

[clever summit]

Good Day peeps. Spring is finally here, even saw some girls sunbathing in the courtyard. 🙂

We have a large lake here and the wind has been coming from that until today. Temperature raised 10°C immidiately.

[sand lotus]

same, i need to mow but still too wet, been raining here a lot lately. mowing wet grass creates grass globs that clog up the mower and generally a bad idea for push mowers.

time to print all the things

[clever summit]

We had sun for a full week. Too cold to enjoy though.

[sand lotus]

this is why everyone should have a home weather station. no surprises when you step outside 😛

unless you live in Canada then it's just varying levels of freezing, more freezing, or a bunch of nope nope nope.

[clever summit]

Yeah, my outdoor thermometer broke. Think I need to whip something up with stuff I already have in store. Maybe find that onewire sensor I bought like hundred years ago and never used. 😎

[sand lotus]

remote temp sensor with lora + feather + solar panel. it's on my to do list.

[clever summit]

Oh, that is fancy! Reminds me I need to reinstall my Things Network hub, SD card died...

[sand lotus]

Gamblor already has an entire weather station example. He did pretty much exactly what I want to do. Will be following his github example when the time comes. 😉

[clever summit]

I had a sensor craze, bought loads of different sensors like particle, voc, co2 and even a geiger counter.

Spent the last couple of weeks bringing them into Home Assistant.

[sand lotus]

Yup, been there. I don't have VOC or geiger though, those can get expensive.

That would make for an amazing dashboard though. Kudos! 👍

[clever summit]

Found the onewire sensor.

[inner spade]

It’s only a one-wire sensor if you start counting from zero.

[upper sandal]

tio has --log and --log-file

you know, youtube tries to suggest me your Android tutorials from 10 years ago sometimes

[sand lotus]

streams fine

[inner spade]

Time to get busy with the looming outdoor chores. Thanks for the stream!

[sand lotus]

Have a blessed Saturday CGrover.

[inner spade]

You too. Hope things dry out for you soon.

[sand lotus]

Have a great weekend FoamyGuy!

Wiznet and tokens will make your brain hurt pretty quick. Understandable. 🙂

[midnight plinth]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[midnight plinth]

?showtimes-pacific

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evenings
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 1pm Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 8am Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 4:30pm Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 5pm Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 1pm Thursdays
DeepDive w/Foamyguy - 2pm Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 8am Saturdays

[open girder]

live in 5! Desk of Ladyada - seesaw sample Sunday! https://youtu.be/pAj2LYvwqp8

Desk of Ladyada - seesaw sample Sunday! https://youtu.be/pAj2LYvwqp8

[brazen quail]

What keeps you up at night, that you think you could change ?

[open girder]

more open-source hardware and software for folks, keeps us up at night, and something we can do 🙂

[brazen quail]

Does seesaw have counters/timers ? (For things like measuring RPM)

[open girder]

yes, there are timers built in! you could write a rom counting module

*rpm

[covert crag]

Nice, though if you aren't already planning on it, can I suggest you sell a version of that board with pre-soldered wire terminals?

[open girder]

Yep - It will be pre-soldered 🙂

[feral mortar]

why not just use the Raspberry Pi RP2040 as a GPIO to I2C as opposed to the ATtiny 1616 or 816?

[covert crag]

Asking I basically saw that and immediately thought "this could be great for people who want to do Neopixels without needing to solder anything", even with MCUs that can do Neopixels natively. Plus I assume it also inherently handles the 3/5V power/logic issue you can run into.

[open girder]

Good question! The BOM cost for RP2040 is $2-$3 after the chip, crystal, LDO, shifters, and QSPI flash - the attiny816 is 50 cents total, no crystal/LDO/shifter/flash needed. That adds up!

[feral mortar]

Thank you!!

[covert crag]

Plus though it's probably not a big deal in this kind of use case, I assume the attiny816 will use less power than an RP2040

[open girder]

Tthat too!

[covert crag]

Night folks

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night.

[sand lotus]

Thank you for another great episode. ❤️

[upper sandal]

Rubber Ducky

a name that's a little overloaded with meanings

used for pentesting too

that looks like one ?
https://github.com/AidanWright/USB-Rubber-Ducky-Fork-WITH-WIKI/wiki

they actually renamed it "USB-Rubber-Ducky-Fork-WITH-WIKI"

I googled:USB-rubber-ducky forks

I heard of killer rabbits, not duckys

make an Adafruit fork ?

so it doesn't change under us

looks like the hak5 one itself was a fork of the old 2012 one ?

[upper sandal]

you're not putting strings you are putting keys

remember it's a keyboard

to type emojis with a keyboard you have to do something like ALT+some numbers

and OS specific

[sand lotus]

🦆

ducky is an HID injector right? I've never used it.

so it's triggering on keywords using split?

oh it's looking for a specific key and replacing the key value with something else?

i can see the draw for people using it as a prank now. you could really mess with someone's keyboard lol

hmm could also be malicious as a keylogger :/

[upper sandal]

there's a whole library of bad stuff and rickrolls

it's a keyboard not a keylogger, but it can do anything that your keyboard can do, start a cmd prompt and run anything

even validate the admin confirmation dialog

though if you don't have a US keyboard layout it will be defeated mostly

[sand lotus]

that's true, someone that's really good with this stuff can use anything for anything really. tools are tools.

[gusty wedge]

ehlo

[upper sandal]

there's a whole library of ducky scripts readily available too, no need to be good

[gusty wedge]

Great, thanks.

Oh cool a ducky. I think I made the first circuit playground ducky, way back when.

[sand lotus]

yeah about a month ago there were a lot of people on the same day asking about it. usually that happens when a youtuber makes a video about it or a new popular article on it somewhere.

weren't they originally called bad usb or is that something different?

[gusty wedge]

No, I do mean a long time ago, like pre-circuitpython I think? Or maybe before the express circuitpython or something like that.

7y ago says github.

[sand lotus]

oof that sounds nasty.

7 years wow, you've been around a while for sure

[gusty wedge]

That is what people tell me. It was really cool, se used it for a security class where I used to work. Some of the students expected a USB key to be malicious, but I distracted them by talking about the accelerometer, neopixels, mic and caps sensors on the playground, so they connected the board without thinking twice about it...

(The plugged it into a lab env, there was no harm done)

afk

[sand lotus]

Good point. With great neopixels comes great responsibility.

[upper sandal]

when a youtuber made a video on the pico-ducky repo, which is another implementation using Circuitpython publish around the same time as the adafruit library, a lot of people came that wanted to know how to make it work with their keyboard layout - right at the time when I was working on the layouts library too
so, because i've been testing it, and testing layouts with it, I configured my windows to always ask for the admin password instead of juste the confirmation dialog, just in case I accidentally run someone elses's payload trying to do something bad

[sand lotus]

it asks for a password whenever you plug in a usb device?

[upper sandal]

non every time you do something that requires admin privileges

normally it only shows a "yes no" dialog

[sand lotus]

from a usb device i take it?

[upper sandal]

like when you do ctrl-alt-del and click on task manager

[sand lotus]

ah ok

[upper sandal]

"when you connect a keyboard, input a password" has a bootstrap problem 😉

[sand lotus]

well if you were to plug in a keyboard with a keylogger and you have to input your pw then it's got your pw. i mean with physical access all bets are off really.

[shell mason]

it have that playload studio

[sand lotus]

i can see why a lot of security people out there think usb microcontrollers are a nightmare for them. i mean just advertise a usb as adafruit industries or CIRCUITPY are you really gonna think twice about it? :/ yes chicken/egg

[upper sandal]

rubber duckys pose as standard USB drives too, so there is that, in fact somebody definitely asked in #help-with-circuitpython how to do that with CP (show the drive empty but secretly run code) and also for good reasons (show the drive for the user to put files, but run say a picture frame code from a hidden drive, like the arduino gif player guide)

(so the user can't mess up the code in the second case)

[shell mason]

also new one have usb-c as you see here https://docs.hak5.org/hak5-usb-rubber-ducky/duckyscript-tm-quick-reference

[sand lotus]

yes i saw that and also saw no one answered them because the intention was quite clear

there was also the person who asked how to turn the pi camera into a scanner... and after discussions figured out they were attempting to scan money.

[upper sandal]

haha

[sand lotus]

there are some questions i just wont answer

[upper sandal]

yeah that's using Circuitpython as a way to format the drive

because otherwise it's a little more complicated to setup an Arduino code that would format the drive if available, it's a whole bunch of more code I think

[sand lotus]

they do yes but i think they were hoping the Pi didn't have that copy protection because a regular scanner wasn't working for them, for obvious reasons.

[upper sandal]

and what were they gonna do ? print it on printer paper ?

[sand lotus]

even if it's just for playing around you're still not allowed to use scans of real currency for that in pretty much any country in the world.

[upper sandal]

the PR adds a repeat argument

[sand lotus]

yeah often see that request for rappers who want to make music videos to throw out dollars for videos but not use actual real money.

[upper sandal]

it uses self.next_index to index into the lines

[strong acorn]

is there a livestream now somewhere?

[upper sandal]

I wonder if that could be written as a generator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEXVDGGjr0g

it's Foamyguy o'clock

[sand lotus]

well it's funday monday, and unscheduled stream kind of.

[strong acorn]

ah, yeah, nothing in #live-broadcast-announce

but I guess it's his personal and not Ada

[sand lotus]

officially only scheduled for Friday's at 5pm EST but he does Saturday's at 11pm EST and sometimes whenever he wants to stream on monday-thursday sometimes.

[strong acorn]

I've seen the Sat AM ones sometimes

[upper sandal]

by the way I love that I discovered that you can buy prop blurred money

[sand lotus]

pixelated money? that's a neat way around the law. that would actually be legal, nice idea whoever came up with that.

so you don't have to blur it post process in editing so the serial numbers aren't shown... i dunno if that's a thing to be wary about it.

[upper sandal]

that's a bloc of foam

and the packaging is blurry too 😄

[sand lotus]

lol it actually looks like the image was blurred

that falls under parody money so its legal, like monopoly money where it can't be confused for real currency.

from a far distance away though it might look real.

[strong acorn]

some people are pixelated https://youtu.be/1T3_4zWMspo?t=18

[sand lotus]

wait foam.. so i could get bunch of it and use it as a mattress like a real gangster

[upper sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l00XgggVbhM

that's where I learned about it

[sand lotus]

foamyguy fighting with ducky, just the sounds are funny to listen to.

you watch weird stuff Neradoc lol

[upper sandal]

he's a magician / he shows (and solves) puzzle boxes and gadget stuff

[sand lotus]

if you want weird just do a search for anything on youtube with the word "japanese" appended to it. the Japanese love weird stuff.

https://tenor.com/view/weird-japan-creepy-japanese-game-gif-5017386

somedays i'll binge watch their weird shows, MXC always makes me laugh.

[upper sandal]

that's weird, why the -1 ?

maybe somebody didn't know how to remove "\n" ?

oh ?

haha yeah I developped a dummy Keyboard class that would just print to the REPL

or use the web workflow and connect the board to a Pi nearby 😉

[sand lotus]

automatic reload is my favorite feature of CP. it can also sometimes be a real pain.

[strong acorn]

I usually turn it off

[sand lotus]

pretty sure it's r then n

had to deal with that in the lora byte array sending messages with it appended on the end of every broadcast.

[upper sandal]

oh it buffered what it typed in the console

there was an error, and so everything typed minus the one key that triggered the REPL was typed into the REPL

[sand lotus]

i think it'll print literally if turned to ascii? that's what it does with the lora example. i don't fully understand byte arrays yet.

isn't ctrl+y usully redo? oh that would be frustrating.

[upper sandal]

that seems to be the simplest form of a dummy Keyboard I used:

class Keyboard:
    def __init__(self, *whatever):
        pass
    def press(self, *keycodes):
        print(" +", [f"0x{k:02X}" for k in keycodes], end="")
    def release(self, *keycodes):
        print(" -", [f"0x{k:02X}" for k in keycodes], end="")
    def release_all(self):
        print(" ;")
    def send(self, *keycodes):
        print(" <", [f"0x{k:02X}" for k in keycodes], ">")

[sand lotus]

Thank you for the stream. Neat seeing inside ducky I've never seen before. Good stuff.

I would like to see more of the tabular stuff. It's a great looking dashboard.

[unreal bay]

?showtimes-gmt

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 20:00 Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 16:00 Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 00:30 Thursdays
Ask an Engineer - 01:00 Thursdays
John Park's Workshop - 21:00 Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Foamyguy - 22:00 Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 16:00 Saturdays

[unreal bay]

#time-isnt-real-anyway

[haughty quiver]

#time-is-a-construct

[inner spade]

Time is occasionally constructed like a Winchester house.

[haughty quiver]

Now that's when things get interesting!

LOL Wirecast crashed, let's see if i can relaunch in two minutes or fewer!

[little onyx]

Just made it

[haughty quiver]

me too!

[sand lotus]

Good afternoon!

No music, hot mic.

there we go

[drowsy inlet]

hello all

[glass stag]

Howdy all.

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/breakin-turbo-ozone-dance-gif-17502209

[split gazelle]

Good afternoon folks

[haughty quiver]

"No Music, Hot Mic" is my hit single

[inner spade]

All lyrics, no instruments.

[cinder wind]

woot displays!

[lyric frost]

👋

[inner spade]

It’s my favorite display for Eurorack 10hp projects!

[glass stag]

More JP's the better

[dusk socket]

We only need one JP

[cinder wind]

"If you vote for me, I'll put a JP in every pot, a JP in every home!"

those look amazing, @inner spade

[sand lotus]

Very professional

Displays without mounting holes are very hard to mount unless you make faceplates and snapfit stuff.

[inner spade]

Thanks. These are the design renders. The one in the middle is almost done (needs the panel sticker) and the one on the left is in progress.

[sand lotus]

Love seeing displays with mounting holes.

and a built in SD card, love to see that.

the ribbon cable (eyespi) is great for tiny embedded devices to squish flat. helps make for a more compact enclosure for those who are into 3D printing your own enclosures.

gifio, synthio, adafruitio, terminalio, displayio, the more IO's the better.

oh WOW that looks good, cute lego display too

auto_refresh has to be disabled for gifs?

[cinder wind]

it's even worse than that, you're sending raw ST7789 commands over SPI

to get maximum speed

[sand lotus]

hmm maybe i can get animated clouds for my weather display now where i couldn't this time last year. think i was getting 3 fps, is that still about the expected FPS?

[cinder wind]

if using normal displayio, yes. if using the (really hacky hack) that JP shows, then you can get faster, for certain chips and certain display orientations

[sand lotus]

stream looks fine

that's a Super Gulp

[cinder wind]

nooo don't hot swap

[waxen bough]

Lego Man is a Windows User. (Judging from the cup).

[cinder wind]

lol

[sand lotus]

Thanks for the stream JP! That's a great deal as always.

[haughty quiver]

thanks for coming by!

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[grand tusk]

They don't make 'em like that any more.

[waxen bough]

Had to grab 2 sets. Just because...

[glass stag]

Great stream.

[haughty quiver]

thanks @glass stag

[waxen bough]

Don't forget to check the boxes underneath to get the cable and breakout board!

[upbeat coral]

I missed the announcement, again

[viral sail]

Same here, had to go find it. https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/04/26/no-3d-hangouts-this-week-8/

[unreal bay]

they need to offer compensation posts when away 😉 "Here's a cheeky timelapse we saved for a rainy day..."

[haughty quiver]

https://streamyard.com/vhvv8wwhfz

[lilac tusk]

Hai @haughty quiver

[haughty quiver]

hello

[turbid hill]

yo

[tulip canyon]

Howdy 👋

[nova totem]

Evening all

[open surge]

good evening

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[sand lotus]

Good evening

[inner spade]

👋

[tulip canyon]

"Whichcord?" - Discord

[fiery basalt]

Hey!

[sand lotus]

Don't often see Dan on, this is a nice treat.

[cinder wind]

whatcord?

[nova totem]

I have lost track of the number of times I have to restart OBS when things freeze

[turbid hill]

if you have multple cams in linux put each cam on a seperate usb host controller it can help with video freezes

[cinder wind]

while [ 1 ] ; do ; sleep(60) ; kill -9 obs ; obs & ; done ;

[sand lotus]

This is the new Prop-Maker, not original "Prop Maker" or "PropMaker". Will be how to differentiate them is the hypen.

[brazen quail]

Which chip is used for the neopixel voltage boost ?

[sand lotus]

This is a new top secret RP2040 Prop-Maker

[inner spade]

Nice. Also like the tuning tool used as a pointer.

[cinder wind]

if it's like the ItsyBitsys, probably 74HCT1G125DBV

[nova totem]

I've seen the 74HCT used by them on other projects, not sure if they used it on this one

[sand lotus]

Yup, gyro/accelerometer and audio/servo combination is what makes the Prop Maker featherwing so popular. Now updated with the RP2040.

[upper sandal]

if it comes pre-soldered it would be really nice (the prop maker feather)

[cinder wind]

oops sorry 🙂

[nova totem]

Way to go todbot

[open surge]

Nice job todbot

[fiery basalt]

Come on

Smh

[sand lotus]

Prop Maker is almost a Halloween necessity. Definitely pick them up for Halloween. Very popular Halloween and Cosplay platform.

[paper peak]

it is not a boost converter, it is a level converter from the 3.3V pin to 5V (or raw battery voltage)

[sand lotus]

I like seeing how PR's for projects translate into the real world. This is good stuff @rapid hornet. Would like to see more of this kind of thing in Show & Tell from developers.

[paper peak]

tuning tool is a historical artifact: says "Heath Company Benton Harbor, Mich."

[sand lotus]

Update of the fidget spinner! Way to go @proven crow ! From idea to reality. Love it!

[inner spade]

Even better! I still find uses for my collection, but none have touched an IF strip in years.

[cinder wind]

cool to see the progress on this @proven crow !

[fiery basalt]

It's a neat idea!

[sand lotus]

If it's got an LED can pipe a low battery blink to it?

[nova totem]

Looks great

[paper peak]

assumption is you will be powering it from 5V USB port or from LiPO 4.2V battery connector

[sand lotus]

It's a great project. Congrats! This has been very satisfying to follow the progress on his efforts.

[nova totem]

That's amazing

[sand lotus]

Animated cat GC9A01!

[proven crow]

For anyone interested: https://github.com/2231puppy/E-Fidget
Thanks for the support 🙂
(code has yet to be refactored and it's all very much a work-in-progress)

[fiery basalt]

its beautiful todbot

[fiery basalt]

Thanks!

[nova totem]

I don't know why I never tried GIFs on the round displays

[sand lotus]

Better eyes for Halloween this year?

[turbid hill]

reminds me of capt kirks enterprise, the old one

[open surge]

Reminds me of a Tie Fighter. Very cool todbot.

[tulip canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/asteroids-atari-video-game-80s-game-gif-16894231

[sand lotus]

Awesome stuff @cinder wind a lot of awesome implications for this new stuff.

[rapid hornet]

Arduino has the same resolutions

[brazen quail]

AmaCra

[sand lotus]

pair that with Bluetooth and you could have a handheld wireless gaming system... so many applications!

[cinder wind]

yeah this is why I was confused by the picodvi.Framebuffer docs 🙂

[sand lotus]

Most new motherboards come with ARGB headers on the board for RGB lighting. Aorus, MysticLight, etc..

[brazen quail]

Phantabulous.

[cinder wind]

I find it awesome and hilarious that PC cases come with addressable RGB lighting pre-wired

[sand lotus]

However most still require some kind of lighting controller... this is a great way to bypass all that and DIY your own controller.

Awesome project!

RGB makes everything better really.

[cinder wind]

very neat @nova totem !

[sand lotus]

Really nice custom board @nova totem!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks JP, Thanks all for sharing.

[nova totem]

My board was too old. Also can't control it with CP 🙂

[rapid hornet]

I'll PR a change tomorrow

[inner spade]

Thanks @haughty quiver !

[nova totem]

My motherboard does have an older RGB connector which I was happy to find out early enough is 12V before I fried everything

[haughty quiver]

Thanks for bringing on your cool projects everyone!

[nova totem]

Thanks JP! and great projects everyone

[sand lotus]

You can get blank DIN panels, drill holes, and put some knobs on it for easier control.

DIN panel RGB controllers are a thing.

[cinder wind]

Thx JP for hosting

[pseudo lotus]

First time watching the show and tell - that was very cool to see

[cinder wind]

in spite of it being so dang hot today

[sand lotus]

@pseudo lotus stick around, Ask an Engineer is up next. Show & Tell leads directly into Ask an Engineer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwXWf2JDhuc

[pseudo lotus]

I'm going to try to - I've been sprinting at PyCon all day so I will need dinner at some point 😁

[sand lotus]

ah hope you're having fun with Kattni, Jepler, and KeithTheEE over there!

[pseudo lotus]

They've been fantastic. Just said goodbye to Kattni and Rose on their way to pack up for travel. Got some PRs in too so I'd call it a good week 🙂

They put up with several days of my weird curveball questions too 😆

[sand lotus]

They're awesome people and know Circuit Python very well. Did Jepler try to convince anyone to customize their own legacy ball mouse?

[pseudo lotus]

hah no I don't think I heard that one if there was that kind of conversation. We did have a pretty full house though!

[sand lotus]

If you want to throw him a curveball ask him how you can put a help button on your keyboard.

[pseudo lotus]

I asked today how they might approach putting sensors on a disc golf disc to measure rotational speed in flight though so that was probably kinda out there

[dim wigeon]

Hi everyone! 👋

[sand lotus]

No no, that's absolutely within the realm of circuitpython and would be an awesome project!

[pseudo lotus]

Shower thoughts, you know?

[sand lotus]

Sensors on a frisbee would alter its flight characteristics though. :/

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/pwXWf2JDhuc

[cinder wind]

agree with @sand lotus sounds totally do-able. I can imagine you'll spend more time getting the frisbee balanced than doing the electronics 🙂

[turbid hill]

sounds so old school midi

[pseudo lotus]

That is pretty much exactly what Rose's comment was. Disc golf discs are a bit heavier than frisbees but you would definitely want to center the weight

[sand lotus]

no idea what that was but was cool synth

[gray obsidian]

nice retro intro!

[pseudo lotus]

The PDGA won't let you mod a disc during a tournament but it'd maybe be handy for practice sessions

[nova totem]

You may be able to at least put something equal weight to the sensor on the opposite side to help. I had thought about that idea before while playing ultimate

[pseudo lotus]

well I also bake so I already have gram scales 😆

[cinder wind]

"I'm an emacs baby not vi!"

[sand lotus]

They must be teaching baby ada to use Nano.

[nova totem]

Someone is not happy there 🙃

[gray obsidian]

"You know how to use Emacs and Vi. You just use whichever one works, but you know how to use both."

(Benjamin Bayart)

[sand lotus]

@proven crow Showed off his finished haptic fidget spinner. That was great to see.

[noble rampart]

Arabox news?

[open girder]

@noble rampart still shipping, but not yet

[gray obsidian]

OMG don't turn on CC on youtube… "rotary * encoder" 🤣

just needs a speaker now

[turbid hill]

good use of lego

[gray obsidian]

need to retrofit that in an old Nokia

[cinder wind]

love the "300 redesigns" poster

[sand lotus]

since we have some new people here today you can pull up the live stream timeslots by doing ?showtimes

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[sand lotus]

🧁

[tulip canyon]

I have a time travel for you. Remember this? @open girder

I'm resurrecting old arduino shields with the Metro M7

[sand lotus]

That's a neat idea since all the shields should still be compatible with the iMX footprint.

[verbal river]

There's one of those on a shelf right next to me

[sand lotus]

but like... 500x faster 🏎️

[pseudo lotus]

I have an original pyboard lying around somewhere at home 🙂

[gusty wedge]

And hey, I was project of the week in the newsletter ❤️

[sand lotus]

I have a folder setup to pipe only Adafruit Daily stuff to it now. The newsletter really is awesome.

[gusty wedge]

Here's the video of my project so that you can all watch it after the show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IGj-wyZRRc

[gray obsidian]

Well, I always have my umbrella in my backpack, regardless. Once I removed it because I thought it wouldn't rain… and I got rinsed waiting 20min for the bus. so… 😅

funny silicone mat 🙂

[turbid hill]

if your a lefty flip the whole thing 180 so you don't run a chance of burning a finger

[sand lotus]

really easy to follow video guide. this is how it should be done. this is excellent for anyone to follow of any skill level.

[gray obsidian]

yeah

nice trick hot glue + heatshrink!

wouldn't put it in a pool but that's enough for spashes

Totoro 🤗

déjà vu on Mastodon 🙂

[pseudo lotus]

I used to get to follow my father on sales trips into electronics fabrication plants, was always kinda fascinating to watch

[sand lotus]

wow, with no supports. well done 3D print!

[tulip canyon]

The Disneyland dragon on the other hand....

[cinder wind]

for anyone curious about the PicoDVI CircuitPython scripts I demo'd during Show-n-Tell, here they both are:
https://gist.github.com/todbot/dbd59078fc53cc7627aa2b2f3a064898
https://gist.github.com/todbot/93692c13d02051a961d4dda3fb7242c7
Both are really simple and should work on just about any CircuitPython board with a display

[tulip canyon]

My SCD4X sensors continually saturate and I need to expose to outdoor air often.

[slow spire]

Hi, all! 👋

[sand lotus]

Much smaller of a script than I would have expected. I don't have a pico dvi yet but it's on my list of boards to get for sure. Nice to see it looks like a relatively small and easy script to use.

[cinder wind]

if you're dying to try DVI/HDMI stuff now and don't mind a bit of breadboarding, you can get https://www.adafruit.com/product/4984

[sand lotus]

A simple combined MOX/VOC with I2C/SPI sounds like a great board.

[gray obsidian]

and they're in stock 🥳

[sand lotus]

🆕

[gray obsidian]

OMG 2:30 am and I have to prepare the radio show for tomorrow 😨

[verbal river]

It's hard to hear babyada, some engineer keeps talking over.

[slow spire]

Where's your radio show? Which station?

[dim knot]

Adafruit Ultimate GPS GNSS with USB - 99 channel w/10 Hz updates https://www.adafruit.com/product/4279

Adafruit RGB Matrix Shield for Arduino https://www.adafruit.com/product/2601

[cinder wind]

"10-channel multi spectrometer" is sounding dangerously close to a tri-corder

which is awesome

[slow spire]

@open girder Ladyada's mike sounds like there's a loose connection maybe.

Or low battery.

[sand lotus]

or something out of ghostbusters

[turbid hill]

it's a loose baby

[pseudo lotus]

Baby broadcast protocol is very high power

[dim knot]

Adafruit AS7341 10-Channel Light / Color Sensor Breakout - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/4698

[cinder wind]

yeah I think her audio has noise cancellation and baby is still making it through

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-bell-fever-guees-what-gif-8044196

[dim knot]

Conductive Plastic Slide Potentiometer Nubbin https://www.adafruit.com/product/5741

[wraith jungle]

No the baby is mocking her. LOL

[gray obsidian]

ok so the motorized pot moves the cursor to reverse the info for the slider, but how does it reverse the info for the capacitive input? Does it charge a cap at 2kV? Just asking 😄

[dim knot]

Adafruit PiCowbell CAN Bus for Pico - MCP2515 CAN Controller https://www.adafruit.com/product/5728

[gray obsidian]

⚡ ugh, someone switched this setting… 😅

[turbid hill]

depending on noise cancalation it might not be handling random spikes in sound well, a lot of ASC works well on repetive sounds but spike sounds get through.

[slow spire]

@open girder Just so you know, I love hearing Babyada. 💟

[gray obsidian]

I think I found an antique pot to repair one of my Geracord cassette recorders which is missing the volume pot… those east-German things are indestructible, of the 4 players I tried the last time it was the only one working.

[tulip canyon]

Stealing cars via CANBUS is apparently all the rage. (Don't condone)

[gray obsidian]

"Yes we CAN"

hmm, that thing could run ContikiOS probably…

[sand lotus]

seeing REPL output on a large monitor is something I didn't think I'd ever see. Blows my mind, the future is now.

[wild urchin]

CANBUS to Cantenna?

[turbid hill]

ooohhh

[slow spire]

Oooh I haven't heard that name in a minute. I'll have to read up again!

[gray obsidian]

PulkoMandy maintains a 1.x branch which had the 8bit computer support and got phased out: https://github.com/pulkomandy/contiki-1.x

[sand lotus]

RP2040 Metro looks like a future tester for adafruit internal uses.

[gray obsidian]

The newer code focuses on sensor nodes

[sand lotus]

Getting the RX/TX hard traced the wrong way is something everyone's done when you first start getting into PCB design. It happens to everyone 🙂

[gray obsidian]

it happens even with D-Sub connectors when you're cabling to a terminal that predates the IBM PC because the connector gender is sometimes quite confusing…

[slow spire]

That design is packed!

[sand lotus]

Hmmm that would be perfect for a mailbox

[hasty frigate]

Will the revised RGB Arduino hat work with the top secret rp2040 Metro? The RGBmatrix library in CircuitPython?

[gray obsidian]

Q: have you ever tried Contiki OS? 🙂

[full jasper]

Question: I have a feather Huzzah ESP8226 that won't start (running code), until I press the Reset button. I created a small pgm in Arduino IDE that displays some info on a Featherwing 128x32 Monochrome OLED. I tried powering the Huzzah via USB and also via a fully chargedlipo battery (2000 ma), but either way it doesn't startup until I press reset.

[sand lotus]

Can the Prop-Maker I2S go out to a 20W amplifier or is it a pre-amp and not recommended?

[brazen quail]

Are there any targets that can do native ethernet ? (Not with Wiznet chip)

[slow spire]

@full jasper Maybe some serial setup in your setup() method is waiting for a USB connected computer. If so, commenting that out may help. @open girder

[cinder wind]

Q: There's the fun adafruit_turtle library for LOGO-like graphics, but does Adafruit make a little pen robot that uses it?

[turbid hill]

I always buy 2 of the same thing in case I run into a issue like that

[gray obsidian]

FTR: Contiki is an OS originally designed for 8bit computers (C64 then ported to others), later used by the author on his Ph.D for sensor node networks. It uses protothreads for multitasking and has a Cisco-certified IPv4 and IPv6 stack 🙂

[paper peak]

could be a power-up problem with the FeatherWing display. Maybe your program is really running, but the extra reset is needed for the OLED

[gray obsidian]

Maybe design something else that could also be used as a turtle robot 😉

[pseudo lotus]

man LOGO was the first code I ever saw / wrote

[tulip canyon]

EVERY social robot goes under

Drones, etc etc

[wild urchin]

Prusa seems to be doing OK, but I can see you not wanting to be in that business.

[cinder wind]

lol yeah

[gray obsidian]

pen turtle, but using razor blades instead, what could possibly go wrong?

[wraith jungle]

Could you please create a LILY GO T Display equivalent?

[cinder wind]

got it, taping a Sharpie to my DJI drone now...

[pseudo lotus]

I've taught kids at my local library with those little Ozobots, but I don't know what chips they run on

[slow spire]

@open girder

[turbid hill]

The MK3 is all open, it's the MK4 and the XL that is currently slightly closed

[cinder wind]

how about https://www.adafruit.com/product/5691 ?

[upper sandal]

isn't that the feather tft and reverse ?

[sand lotus]

You could always jack your prices up to the point you're selling an $800 lamp like Dyson... learned about that ridiculousness recently.

[tulip canyon]

@open girder wins with community

[gray obsidian]

sadly Apple can't stop Samsung stealing their worst ideas either like serialized parts

[upper sandal]

yeah that

[pseudo lotus]

just ordered one of those yesterday actually

[gray obsidian]

not just "new" products, better products, with useful features, not bells and whistles (cowbells are ok I guess) 😄

[upper sandal]

the only difference it that the lilygo T-display has the suffixless ESP32

[sand lotus]

You can't stop the cowbell

[gray obsidian]

thanks!

[cinder wind]

babybell

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/more-cowbell-cowbell-snl-reaction-mrw-gif-14076918

[wraith ether]

Is there a board that receives a Max485 receiver to decode LED signal and a 12V to 5V down voltage

[open surge]

thanks adafruit, good show!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks Limor, PT, and Babyada!

[sand lotus]

Have a great week!

[gray obsidian]

I feel zenered!

[upper sandal]

(by the way I have a lilygo T-display and will add it to Circuitpython when I can)
The ESP32-S2 lilygo T-GO 1.1 whatever the kilometer long name is, is already supported

[cinder wind]

Thanks Limor, thanks pt!

[slow spire]

Thank you, @open girder fam!

[wild urchin]

Thank you!

[verbal river]

Bye Babyada

[cinder wind]

The precursor to the Lilygo T-Display is already in CircuitPython and it's pretty good too https://circuitpython.org/board/lilygo_ttgo_t8_s2_st7789/ (also you can use a generic ESP32 CircuitPython image with the T-Display and just set up the board peripherals yourself)

[upper sandal]

oh somebody added the t-display ?
https://circuitpython.org/board/unknown/?unknown_id=lilygo_ttgo_tdisplay_esp32_16m

I believe we still don't have the RP2040 version because of the VID/PID situation which really sucks

[wraith jungle]

Would like to see the 1.9" display. Just bought the TFT Rev but it is smaller.

[upper sandal]

ah maybe that one ?
http://www.lilygo.cn/prod_view.aspx?TypeId=50062&Id=1411&FId=t3:50062:3

[wraith jungle]

👍

[wraith jungle]

Thar she be!!! Even has the antenna plug on the back.

I'd rather buy it from Adafruit than "other" sources. 😉

[sand lotus]

One of the main reasons I tend to stick with Adafruit products is the amazing support and community. It's unparalleled.

[wraith jungle]

Using it for monitoring my boat batteries.

[sand lotus]

Should bring that on Show & Tell! Great project. Doesn't have to be an Adafruit product to go on Show & Tell.

[wraith jungle]

I will put that in my thought bag. It sure is hard to follow so many awesome Show & Tellers especially JP! 😃

[sand lotus]

All skill level, projects, works in progress are encouraged. Made an LED blink for the first time? Bring it on Show & Tell! All projects are welcome!

community participation is highly encouraged

[wraith jungle]

Nice. Such an awesome community! I try to tell Lady Ada how awesome she (and her company) is but celebrities hear that stuff all the time. 😂 ❤️

[sand lotus]

They also feature inspiring emails in Ask & Engineers "Mailbag" section. If you write them a nice email they might feature it in their segment.

[wraith jungle]

Hey @sand lotus since I have a bit of your time. I just got a couple the the TFT Revs and I was wondering if you know of any 3d prints available to mount the display with?

[sand lotus]

If you want to express your appreciation that's honestly a good way to do it.

Pretty sure the Ruiz Brothers have a 3D print for the Rev TFT. Check Adafruit's Printables. All of their enclosure STL files are available there.

[wraith jungle]

Oh cool. Thank you.

[sand lotus]

https://www.printables.com/@Adafruit

[wraith jungle]

Thanks. You Rock!

[sand lotus]

There's a reverse TFT stand on there

[upper sandal]

there's no tft featherwing in stock either, I don't think there has been in a long time, some components might not be available
https://www.adafruit.com/product/3315

[sand lotus]

I think they were talking about the reverse TFT not the TFT featherwing...

[upper sandal]

they were talking about the lilygo t-display

but I think that a featherwing and a feather are a good alternative solution

not quite as compact but short headers exist to make it not too deep

[sand lotus]

I wish they'd bring the TFT featherwing back. It was one of my favorites. 😦

[upper sandal]

there's some eyespi boards

but it's not as convenient

[sand lotus]

I liked being able to plug any feather directly into it. Not the same. 😦

Was awesome for beta testing different boards quickly with displayio stuff.

[upper sandal]

yeah the 128x64 OLED featherwing is in stock though

(no color of course)

einks are in stock, might be good for monitoring batteries ?
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4777

tricolor for RED alerts
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4778

[sand lotus]

Agreed, for low power... Magtag can't be beat.

[wraith jungle]

Also added color changes for various value thresholds.

[sand lotus]

e-ink is amazing for lasting weeks/months

yeah though you'd probably have that one plugged in all the time. battery backup never hurts

I don't have any lilygo boards yet, just trying to keep up with the pace of Adafruit's development is enough to keep me busy with projects within projects for a lifetime.

[wraith jungle]

I started with the 1.9" TFT but this this is an all in one module so I went with it.

[sand lotus]

Looks like a great board really

[upper sandal]

I had fun figuring out the lilygo t-watch, I still need to add a library for the touch screen

[sand lotus]

Neradoc's got a matrix of infinite projects too. Circuit Python is amazing.

🪩

[upper sandal]

my todo list is an SCP, the more you look at it, the more you take from it, the more it grows, nobody knows how this thing can break the laws of causality

[sand lotus]

or Arduino, or Raspberry Pi, whatever your fav language is, microcontrollers are so much fun.

[wraith jungle]

If Adafruit would produce this thing I would buy lots of them. They changed something in the libraries on me and when I went to make a code change I got nothing on the display.

I had to get back to the library that worked and save it off separately so I can continue development.

[sand lotus]

Can always find help in the #help-with-circuitpython channel 😉

[wraith jungle]

I think I might switch. Right now it's C++.

[upper sandal]

I don't know if we have a build that would run on the t-display as is

[sand lotus]

ah

[upper sandal]

the arcanes of ESP32 builds are a little obscure to me

I stumble, try things, and hope for the best

[wraith jungle]

Oh that sounds pretty standard to me. 😄

[sand lotus]

that's goes for anything in life, wise words.

alright i'm gonna get back to my RC project, see if i can get that working without frying another receiver or battery.

[wraith jungle]

Thank you all for your help. Have a great evening.

[full jasper]

LadyAda suggested adding a time delay at the beginning of the code. Added a 500ms delay before the code starts executing. That solved the problem. The Feather Huzzah now starts up whether using USB power or Lipo battery and it startups the OLED display. Thanks for all the help!!!

[slow spire]

Awesome! Glad that worked!

[wraith jungle]

Start up patience is a virtue. 🤣 🤣

[lavish patrol]

Good evening all.

[haughty quiver]

hello!

[open surge]

good afternoon

[spiral vale]

aloha

[unreal bay]

evening, still waiting for the utubes but twitch is there

[haughty quiver]

trying to convince FB to start

[unreal bay]

lol, prod those gremlins

[open surge]

Lars causing trouble

[lavish patrol]

Don't get them wet...

[haughty quiver]

undoubtedly

[lavish patrol]

We have liftoff.

[spiral vale]

beep beep

[haughty quiver]

beep beep!

[lavish patrol]

Honk!

[inner spade]

👋

[undone onyx]

Greetings JP!!!

[ivory flax]

Hi John, Looking forward too another great show!

[spiral vale]

he's got a series of tubes coming right in to the workshop

[dusk socket]

go to see you to

[lavish patrol]

It works.

[regal edge]

TNG!

[cinder wind]

which button is "transporter malfuction"?

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[undone onyx]

Needs a "Red Alert" button

[cinder wind]

probably all the buttons

[ivory flax]

I would be interested in the code used to dim the matrix display. That is very 😎

[unreal bay]

did you follow any guide for your veneering, or were you already a pro?

[undone onyx]

Fire == BAD!

[unreal bay]

brilliant, thanks for that info

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[undone onyx]

25th Cen. Cup warmer?

[lavish patrol]

Everything needs a cup warmer...

[cinder wind]

I bet it uses power from the warp core to magnetically contain the coffee cups when the romulans attack

[undone onyx]

Not unstable with micro tractor beams!

turntables that fly around the room? a-la DJ Drones?

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[cinder wind]

dronetables

[haughty quiver]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[haughty quiver]

?showtimes-PDT

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 20:00 Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 16:00 Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 00:30 Thursdays
Ask an Engineer - 01:00 Thursdays
John Park's Workshop - 21:00 Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Foamyguy - 22:00 Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 16:00 Saturdays

[haughty quiver]

?showtimes-PDT

[unreal bay]

?showtimes-pacific

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evenings
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 1pm Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 8am Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 4:30pm Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 5pm Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 1pm Thursdays
DeepDive w/Foamyguy - 2pm Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 8am Saturdays

[sand lotus]

Interested in which livestream is coming up next? Use ?showtimes to display the latest schedule in Eastern Time! If you're looking for Pacific, use ?showtimes-pacific. The schedule in GMT can be found using ?showtimes-gmt. Happy watching!

[unreal bay]

in the pinned messages from katni

[lavish patrol]

?showtimes-UTC

[ivory flax]

? Showtime

[cinder wind]

?showtimes-atlantic

?showtimes-antarctica

[sand lotus]

?showtimes-is-a-construct

[lavish patrol]

I don't think it has all timezones.

[clever summit]

?showtimes-CET

Spam filter killing it? 🙂

[open surge]

No, it's just 3 timezones

[lavish patrol]

I find this website useful: https://everytimezone.com/

[sand lotus]

no mountain time so FoamyGuy is lost

[clever summit]

Nah, CET is the only important one, 🙂

[lavish patrol]

Does Sweden have summer time, @clever summit?

[sand lotus]

holy cow that's amazing @inner spade Well done!

[clever summit]

Yep.

[undone onyx]

That reminds me of calibrating my Palm Pilot screen

[sand lotus]

That is some of the coolest calibration code I've seen.

[undone onyx]

Yup!

[inner spade]

Thanks! It’s in the touchscreen repo examples folder.

[clever summit]

Discord do have time zone support - <t:1682627335:f>

[haughty quiver]

https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_Touchscreen/tree/main/examples

[sand lotus]

Will that work on the Feather TFT's with built in and Reverse TFT's?

wait, those don't have touchscreens nvm

the large featherwing TFT's that are never in stock grumble grumble

that's a game??

[inner spade]

It was designed and tested on resistive touchscreens, with slight code changes.

[sand lotus]

i have never seen this

[cinder wind]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Hero#Development

[open surge]

So you're saying I need to buy another turntable

[sand lotus]

and it's modular neat. i would totally use that to make a real turntable. does it actually spin at 33/72rpm?

[cinder wind]

ooo here's one for cheap https://www.ebay.com/itm/385528104934

[sand lotus]

i think liz did a trumpet hero too

i'll pass, i have 4 real turntables 😉

if you can get that to actually control a music file speed digitally i might rethink that decision

[wind spoke]

I have 2 Wii DJ Hero... I think it is even possible to attach two table to the centre stuff. I helped with that library from @pallid sail.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-panda-stereo-gif-5531071

[cinder wind]

I have two of these turntables hooked up as USB HID devices and do all my code editing with them exclusively

[sand lotus]

you edit code with turntables... i am skeptical.

[shell mason]

that dj hero reminds of guitar hero

[undone onyx]

Make it a GIANT etch-a-sketch 🙂

[inner spade]

… using vim of course

[shell mason]

dj hero lars

[cinder wind]

The "euphoria" button is "esc : wq" of course

[sand lotus]

remote controlled turntables.. 👀

[clever summit]

Forgot the ! character there? 🙂

[open surge]

@cinder wind Could you make it control some kind of video synth with the rp2040 DVI?

[sand lotus]

Joystick could be useful for adding waveform effects, echo, reverb, etc..

a lot of real mixers have effects built into them though i haven't actually used my mixer for a decade. the faders are probably rusted :/

[haughty quiver]

https://www.partsnotincluded.com/playing-spin-rhythm-xd-modified-dj-hero-controller/

[shell mason]

one look like lars

[cinder wind]

yep

[sand lotus]

JP never ceases to amaze. Circuit Bending wizard 🧙‍♂️

[undone onyx]

🙂

[lavish patrol]

😀

[sand lotus]

This is not what I expected from a turntable game.

Guitar hero is closer to playing a real guitar than this game is to being a DJ.

[wind spoke]

MR Devon, what do you know about being a DJ?

[sand lotus]

not much vid.G

[inner spade]

That’s a smooth and responsive controller.

[wind spoke]

I am a DG! 🙂

[sand lotus]

🙂

[cinder wind]

I thought he was called "DJ" because he's good at Dom-jot https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dom-jot

[sand lotus]

went deep there Todbot lol

[cinder wind]

hahahaha

[sand lotus]

Always meant to ask you if you're related to someone named Donald.. 😉

There was a pretty well known D.G. in the circles I used to be in.

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver . Have a great weekend everyone.

[sand lotus]

I'm totally sampling that one someday JP. Aww yeah.

[haughty quiver]

haha

[inner spade]

Thanks @haughty quiver !

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @haughty quiver 👍

[cinder wind]

lol MC JP ScratchAlot

[spiral vale]

wickywickywack

[sand lotus]

Awesome episode

[open surge]

thanks JP!

[haughty quiver]

Thank you @open surge my pleasure!

[undone onyx]

Bye JP

[lyric sphinx]

It's a sunny day today!

[silent anvil]

Live with @smoky island !

I'm watching on YouTube.

[lyric sphinx]

I recently got tripped up on bytes, hexes, and ints, so I've an ear up for this one.

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 🇸🇪

[lyric sphinx]

Oh yes the speeling errors.

Or 'iff' can mean 'if and only if'.

[sand lotus]

Good evening. Was knee deep in MQTT error handling. Seems to be sorted now.

type hints? same as annotations?

I noticed the bonanza of type annotation PR's from the PyCon sprints.

why is it that everyone says try/catch but it's actually try/except? i do the same thing.

[inner spade]

try/‘cept

[sand lotus]

that makes sense, think i first ran across them in java with minecraft plugin coding.

perfect sense now

i did java before python

[brisk bone]

I think people are also saying "throw an error" instead of "raise an error" for the same reason

[sand lotus]

this is true too

maybe because errors make you want to throw things

[brisk bone]

and you raise your voice haha

[sand lotus]

and talk back to the PC sometimes laced with profanities

looks like both times it only scrolled you down to the end of the section you were working on.

oh it'll scroll you to whereever the var is that's being used in that line

so could be random

[inner spade]

Since Python is a non-declarative language, I struggle with that, too.

1.0

Might boil down to memory usage. 1.0 probably takes up more space. Dunno.

[sand lotus]

If it works it works.

See you tomorrow. Thank you for the stream.

[brisk bone]

yes, it is from today

which time zone?

[sand lotus]

11am EST

10AM foamyguy time

[brisk bone]

Ok

[grim robin]

GitHub - flavio-fernandes/lora-ben: iot ...

[sand lotus]

@grim robin this is not the place to start a thread. live-broadcast-chat should only be used during live streams. feel free to post your progress in #show-and-tell which is a chat only channel. It is different from live-broadcast-chat.

[grim robin]

@sand lotus ack. sorry for that.

I closed the thread.... I think. 😉

[sand lotus]

looks like it yes, thank you.

[inner spade]

👋☕

[smoky island]

Getting started now for the morning. We're doing more PR testing and reviews. You can follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eal5GINF0Ec or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[brisk bone]

Hello

[open surge]

good morning

[brisk bone]

there is an issue currently open about that on HTTPServer

[inner spade]

PCBs are the copy/paste for breadboards. I guess the PermaProto board works for that, too.

Or just buy breadboards and wires in bulk.

[brisk bone]

they are imported in adafruit_httpserver/server.py either way

same way as Basic

yes, it is specified in docs

just under first example in Examples

strange, it should connect to wifi before running code.py, I also tested it on ESP32-S2 TFT

I will fix that

yes that might be that

if you add

except KeyboardInterrupt:
                return

on server.py in line 106 this should fix teh freezing

if you specity exact settings names it should auto connect

incognito is easiest way

because of root_path is None

you can try with start, poll

I think it doesn't raise, it just prints the content of error, try saving e.message to variable

these are from CircuitPython itself, not from lib

but I will prevent starting the server if not connected

[grand tusk]

Cheers from the beehive state. 👋

[brisk bone]

Yes, thank you so much for testing

[inner spade]

Thanks for the stream. Have a great weekend!

[grand tusk]

cyl!

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

Oh, you are doing Flask? never seen how that code looks.

I have been busy designing breakout boards for I2S audio chips.

Haven't seen Django either. 🙂

Oh, looks similar to the c# stuff I work with.

[pseudo lotus]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[sand lotus]

Desk of Ladyada on Sunday's generally start anywhere from 8pm to 11pm EST depending on personal life because it's streamed from home.

[pseudo lotus]

Thanks! Sticking some of these on my calendar 😁

[open girder]

Desk of Ladyada Super seesaw sample Sunday https://youtu.be/j7pqxj7wdaE

[viral sail]

Good evening.

[open girder]

🌙

[sand lotus]

5000 meters divided by 200 is 1 pixel per 25 meters. 🙂

I like the idea of a dedicated neopixel module. The Pixl8 friend did require a specific platform, feather I think.

2 address pins for 2 player games. adorable little pad I'm definitely going to pick that up. been looking for something like that.

I'd like to see chart on the evolution of Adafruit like that. very cool graphic.

[brazen quail]

Is there an example on using the seesaw with a flow meter ? (Hall effect or similar sensor)

[sand lotus]

in which language arduino or circuit python loveTHEfactory?

[brazen quail]

Either would be great.

[open girder]

hmm! a flow meter is a lot like a rotary encoder

so you could try that - we dont have a direct demo of pulse counting on seesaw at this time

circuitpython has pulsein

[sand lotus]

only flow meter demo i can find is with raspberry pi on Blinka which uses the pygame library too. https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-keg-bot/raspberry-pi-code

I mean if you want to help Adafruit engineers you could purchase the RP2040 directly from Adafruit

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5041

Todbot regularly solders the Pico directly to his board. Works very well for thin capacitive touch boards, keeps everything really sleek and low profile.

Wow didn't know that existed. Turns the entire Pico into like DIP package.

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night. 🌔

[sand lotus]

Very informative, thank you!

[brazen quail]

Keep it real.

[echo canopy]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[sand lotus]

2 hours until JP's Product Pick of the Week

[echo canopy]

Yay!!!

Would not be upset if it’s a Adafruit Feather RP2040 RFM69 🤞🏻

[echo canopy]

It’s not .. but it’s still something lovely ♥️

[waxen bough]

(You know, you get a sneak peak (url) at what's coming up when you go to the YouTube page an hour or so before the show.)

[vagrant flax]

Did they really sell out right before the show starts 😮

[sand lotus]

yes that's how i prepare my photoshops based on what's coming up 😉

they usually don't release the reserve until the show starts, i think. they usually set aside 100 of something just for the show.

[waxen bough]

They restock just before the show starts, if necessary. AFAIK

[vagrant flax]

oh phew

[sand lotus]

because the deal doesn't start until the show starts

[vagrant flax]

When I saw what today's product was I got really excited 😄

[waxen bough]

But some items sell out fast. I still kick myself for not getting my order in in time for the TFT feather they had a month o so back.

[sand lotus]

yes some items do sell out faster than others

i think it was the reverse tft in particular that sold out in like 10 minutes.

not sure if these will sell out fast unless there are a lot of people who want a good small form factor wippersnapper device... because they do not run circuit python.

[vagrant flax]

I think they could...they're capable of running WLED, which is why I'm interested in them lol

and at half the price it's a steal

[sand lotus]

it's the original ESP32, not compatible with circuit python at least not over serial, maybe web workflow. these ones are typically used for small AdafruitIO projects.

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[open surge]

👋

[drowsy inlet]

hello all

[waxen bough]

I like the boards with native usb so I can do keyboard macros. This board apparently DOES NOT do that. or CurcuitPython. But MicroPython, yes.

[cinder wind]

It can do a kind of CircuitPython, but it's more difficult than normal CirPy that's for sure

[sand lotus]

I heard music and then... just me?

[haughty quiver]

i hear music

[dusk socket]

will the esp32 pico run circuitpython

[drowsy inlet]

hear music here

[sand lotus]

ah my headphones turned off :/

[haughty quiver]

Lars is trying to take credit for that

[verbal river]

🎵

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/chappelle-poplock-breakin-gif-8624270

[cinder wind]

https://circuitpython.org/board/adafruit_qtpy_esp32_pico/

[lyric frost]

@dusk socket Yes, the esp32 pico will run circuitpython, just no circuitpy drive so you need web workflow or something like Thonny to work with it.

[split gazelle]

fashionably late

[cinder wind]

oh if only we could get discounts by doing a sing-and-dance first

[wraith jungle]

JP! Can someone explain if the QT Py ESP32 micro controllers should run so hot? I have about 4 and each of them run around 120 deg F with the default application.

[haughty quiver]

yes, they do run hot, and it's fine

[inner spade]

👋

[cinder wind]

WiFi output takes a lot of power. And some boards don't have much space for thermal dissipation

[waxen bough]

The product page should be updated to mention CircuitPython because right now it just says Arduino IDE and MicroPython.

[cinder wind]

Hmm yeah. I'm not sure the official stance on promoting the "web workflow" in CircuitPython yet since it's so different