Thanks everyone.
#live-broadcast-chat
viral sail
robust horizon
👋
open surge
thanks Liz!
tulip canyon
Thanks Liz, thanks All. - Happy New Year
upbeat coral
Thank you all for taking time for us
split gazelle
thanks everyone!
sand lotus
Thank you Liz.
hard hollow
Cya next year folks!
teal river
Oh, @robust horizon , I did some digging -- it looks like "Level 1" might have referred to programs that were stored only in volatile memory/RAM, which would explain the mention of your work going poof
I know some machines would work only in active memory and you'd have to specifically export things from RAM to storage, which was a process
robust horizon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_I_BASIC maybe it's referring to the BASIC interpreter? I am not sure either!
teal river
Might be that too! That didn't even come up in my search, lol
We need to find someone who worked at Radio Shack in that era
upbeat coral
TRS80 Basic was Level 1 and Level 2. I can't remember (getting way to old) but I think you needed 16k to use Level 2. Ok, found some old memories. Level 2 was a ROM 12k ROM kit and would work in a 4k machine. Therein lies my confusion.
teal river
It was far too long ago to remember if you aren't doing it actively XD
haughty quiver
hi!
teal river
Hiiii!
dry marten
Hi
split gazelle
the sloth is kind of syncing up with the bop
teal river
https://tenor.com/view/sloth-dance-dancing-gif-25250402
Lars, circa about 6.3 billion years ago
haughty quiver
ha
inner spade
Hello! Always fun to be welcomed into the workshop!
clever summit
Hey @haughty quiver
echo canopy
Hi JP!
clever summit
🇸🇪 👋
tulip canyon
SEE YA 2022
sand lotus
lars silently judging everyone
teal river
Yay return!
tulip canyon
Yay!
sand lotus
yey!
teal river
Glad they're coming back! And it'll be nice to have a Thursday show again
sand lotus
Not that we don't love you JP but it'll be nice to have them back on schedule.
tulip canyon
Good to see Desk of Ladyada was back. All the best to Limor and PT and BabyAda
fresh flame
Hello JP!
inner spade
I think Lars tacked up Woody by his pull string.
noble grove
Present.
next compass
@haughty quiver Happy Holidays
fresh flame
teal river
debates buying a 10W solar panel
fossil musk
@sour ridge Awesome owl!
tulip canyon
👐
teal river
Why jazz-hands? Why not?
sand lotus
teal river
Kevin's project is the best kind of crazy
open surge
The Owl files are available on Printables
teal river
Jeff is on a roll with the retro interface projects
sand lotus
Printables is the place to be for 3D printing projects
teal river
Noe posted owl link! #live-broadcast-chat message
sand lotus
Paul's TOF sensor project is really neat. I know the salt brine buckets you're dealing with and can't think of a good way to mount that other than drilling some mounting holes in the lid.
alpine nova
something i happened to be working on at the moment jazz hands was spoken
open surge
Paul's TOF sensor project is really neat. I know the salt brine buckets you're ...
I think I can use some sticky double sided velcro actually
split gazelle
@open surge i think that project would be great as a user pages guide
sand lotus
Ahh yeah some of that super 3M stuff would probably work.
open surge
<@273162248615100417> i think that project would be great as a user pages guide
good idea! I'll see what I can do
sand lotus
It's too humid in FL so the top lid is always wet and the salt combines into big chunks.
teal river
If only there were a way to keep that from happening... I know for brown sugar I have a disk that you soak in water and it keeps it from clumping, but I guess that's the opposite issue
sand lotus
ah you could hook that up to some meshed S2's or qt py's to actually use an SNES controller for a remote control car or something.
teal river
You should do a Lars-io game
sand lotus
plz no
teal river
lol
sand lotus
maybe a video game but we really don't need him walking around and doing stuff.
teal river
What's the board you have the SNES controller wired to?
dim knot
sand lotus
The blog post is titled ICYMI (in case you missed it) usually a day or two after the actual newsletter goes out.
could you use the host to connect the SD card as a flash drive?
teal river
I'm gonna strap a Pico W to an 18TB USB HDD as a WiFi HDD
sand lotus
as ridiculous as that sounds it might be possible in the future
tulip canyon
BLESS YOU!
teal river
Globshoe!
alpine nova
need a sneeze button
inner spade
Need a lav sneeze guard. Denny's has one.
sand lotus
with BLE no less, very impressive hand
teal river
ADABOX WOOO
sand lotus
How many boards does circuit python support now? The number is climbing every day.
teal river
Over 100?
dim knot
noble grove
I'm signed up
urban gale
Nice. Glad those are coming back
open surge
How many boards does circuit python support now? The number is climbing every da...
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teal river
Lars-io waiting for JP to make his game
cinder wind
dang my vision is not that good
teal river
oof
cinder wind
ahahha
teal river
Did you think it was 19:30 now?
open surge
off by one errors get you every time
teal river
lol
royal adder
Time starts at zero not one
sand lotus
you're not late, a wizard arrives precisely when they mean to
teal river
0:00
royal adder
time[0]
teal river
So time started on 0/0/0 at 0:00
sand lotus
yes in 1970
teal river
lol, 1/1/1970 != 0/0/0
sand lotus
it does if you're into unix
teal river
Gordie reaching from 5 minutes in the past
noble grove
I type really slow
teal river
lol
sand lotus
what was the sensor that was only 5v that was featured a couple months ago? i want to say it was a O2 sensor of some kind. anyway, there are plenty of use cases for 3-5v level shifters.
haughty quiver
🦂
sand lotus
started my fast LED projects on an Arduino Nano / Metro Mini... now have dual core DMA with PIO states for it. Just amazing.
can't wait to get my hands on a scorpio
teal river
I can't find the end of this spool 
sand lotus
because it's a feather form you could throw an ESP32 Airlift onto it and do wifi np.
midnight plinth
Too late for Christmas
sand lotus
yeah but really need to start that stuff like right after halloween for holiday projects anyway
teal river
Referring to the spool that came loose XD
sand lotus
are you trying to make a motor winding out of the spool?
cinder wind
yeah not sure what's the subject of that photo haha
teal river
are you trying to make a motor winding out of the spool?
I just pulled it out -- it's magnetic wire that's suppose to be a nice tight spool
cinder wind
🎷👐
sand lotus
just respool it.
teal river
It's so thin... I can't find the end
sand lotus
i've never had that happen but have seen horror stories about it on amazon filament reviews where it binds up if not spooled correctly. that would be infuriating to print like a multi-day print just to have it fail due to an incorrectly wound spool.
teal river
I have run into filament spools that had a section pass under itself... it is a horror... And I've respooled 10kg spools. It's so slow
sand lotus
euro rack triggering an enigma machine sounds pretty neat
teal river
So coool
alpine nova
reminds me of the ouija
sand lotus
ok that's neat, practical uses to make sure you can output the exact correct voltages you want.
teal river
OH I FOUND THE END
tulip canyon
enigma wrapped in a riddle
midnight plinth
ouili
cinder wind
HUMAN MEAT CAPACITANCE
teal river
Human meat finger; not to be confused with human bone finger
Oh, JP -- what was the board you had your SNES controller plugged into?
midnight plinth
I am not a robot
split gazelle
it would be really fun to spell things out with patches for performances
teal river
Camera is having a mental breakdown
cinder wind
That's really cool JP! Stick the patch cable on your tongue and see if you can spell things
harsh pebble
So this is where the party is! Finally made it, @nova forum!!!
teal river
astral vale
Terminal
tulip canyon
alpine nova
someone had a giant four digit 7 segment display out at burning man last year with an input source of some kind that allowed users to say whatever four letter words
midnight plinth
It's better than a breadboard for projects
sand lotus
JP did a huge 7 segment clock i think he made for american ninja timer
i think he's got a guide on it if you're interested in making one.
harsh pebble
I remember that. It looked really good.
teal river
Added this to my cart!
harsh pebble
Thanks, JP! Have a great night, Everyone!
upbeat coral
Thanks for taking time for us.
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver . Good night everyone. 🌒
split gazelle
awesome show, thanks @haughty quiver !
teal river
Good show! See you next year!
alpine nova
bye happy new year all
cinder wind
2023 sounds so futuristic
teal river
AHHH
tulip canyon
Thanks @haughty quiver Thanks all Adafruit folks and community. All the best in 2023
open surge
thanks JP! enjoy the rest of your time off
astral vale
Thank you. Til 2023
noble grove
Thanks JP
teal river
2023 sounds so futuristic
Everything since 2000 has been the future and it's wild
haughty quiver
Happy New Year everyone!
noble grove
Happy Newyear
sand lotus
Thanks for a great show JP.
teal river
Merry newyear!
haughty quiver
thanks so much for coming by to hang out
urban gale
TY JP! Happy New Year all!
sand lotus
Happy New Year
kindred stirrup
Where are the code examples that John Park uses in the the parsec segment?
cinder wind
Where are the code examples that John Park uses in the the parsec segment?
mostly just on the stream
But if you tag him, I'm sure he'll post it on gist.github.com or something
kindred stirrup
So scream capture and retype. Thats a bunch for a beginner. Does he ever post them to the learn guide?
haughty quiver
a ton of them have come from https://learn.adafruit.com/todbot-circuitpython-tricks which is based on @cinder wind 's excellent github reop https://github.com/todbot/circuitpython-tricks
kindred stirrup
Excellent Thanks John!
haughty quiver
here's the code from today https://gist.github.com/jedgarpark/a990326c1e019e3be79cf2c8a9159b1c
kindred stirrup
Super!
inner spade
Thanks @haughty quiver. I noticed that Lars had found a cowboy hat sometime during the show.
sand lotus
You're right, it's an easter egg completely missed it. Happened while he was showing off the new products. Sneaky.
shell mason
Lars is so sneaky
lyric sphinx
Oh, today IS Friday. I'm off by 1 again.
brazen quail
Hola from 'rado ! 😄
sand lotus
👋
noble grove
Hey Tim.
sand lotus
We even have a 3D printing & PCB design help channel in here. Great maker community.
i know nothing about midi except how to push buttons and make bleeps and bloops. My first time ever creating a midi controller.
lilac tusk
Oh, today IS Friday. I'm off by 1 again.
I was suffering from the “off by one” error earlier this week lol
noble grove
yes
noble grove
Could be a little quieter, but its not obnoxious.
Music as a little louder than voice.
sand lotus
yeah a bit loud fine pfft. can still hear you over the music np
noble grove
higher frequencies will probably quieter.
sand lotus
i like my dials at 11 but i'm also deaf in 1 ear
proper prawn
Surprise, tonight also a stream from Tim! Hi Tim and all present at almost the end of this year.
sand lotus
what you did the other day with LMMS was perfect, exploring VST's is part of the process
proper prawn
I'm OK thank you Tim!
sand lotus
really cool you figured out how to use a built-in display from a titano
noble grove
My amp is set at 9/10, system volume at 70%(/150)
sand lotus
did you read up on midi packet format? seems like it if you went straight for byte packaging.
oh that's for the display, gnarly.
is there no midi library you can plug into?
guess you didn't get one of the SSD1306 displays. i ran out of them. 😦
that would be the presets, which is part of program change
which is controlled via a status byte
yes preset is part of the protocol
ohh ok
here's a great video on the midi protocol i watched last night. 10 minutes but breaks down the midi packet pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIyHxL3jC4
The protocol changed in 2014 to include 3.3v in the spec so it doesn't have to be 0-5V anymore.
noble grove
Voice changes...
sand lotus
Was to answer the question in the last video if you can change the instrument. Basically have to do it via midi protocol and use the instrument in LMMS or whatever DAW you're using. The actual instrument is hosted virtually (VST) by the PC program not the midi controller.
noble grove
But there are conventional defaults by... "channel"?
sand lotus
yes general midi has some conventions and most programs abide by it but it's not guaranteed.
yeah that's part of the DAW capability and all DAW's are different. I use Ableton, it's very popular among electronic musicians. No idea if it's available for Linux but can highly recommend it.
noble grove
That is another method, but you can switch between the voices through midi messages too
Not sure about your software, but by spec
sand lotus
ah yes voices are notes but also when talking about synthesizers they usually refer to monophonic or polyphonic voices in a synth.
that was another question from yesterday
noble grove
Sorry I'm kind of rusty on the voice/channel/controller/message terminology
sand lotus
some of the synths you were playing with yesterday in LMMS had monophonic and polyphonic capability. that was really cool to see it controlling a polysynth. 🙂
no no you're correct gordie, voices are used to describe both things which can be confusing because there's some overlap.
proper prawn
I lost the stream how on your end
sand lotus
oh i thought it was just my internet going out, been doing that. back now
proper prawn
OK, back
smoky island
Yep, it cut out on my side, should be back in just a sec
noble grove
I might be right in this case but I know that voice/channel/controller/message mean specific things and don't remember which is which. The last time I looked into it I found it less than intuitive.
sand lotus
as someone who is used to making music i usually only know voices being something associated with mono or polyphonic synths.
some VST's actually have the word voices labeled on the synth, same for actual physical polyphonic synths like some of the old Korg synths i'm used to working with.
lyric sphinx
Yep. And it took me a moment to remember that Apple puts all the controls on the other side. And makes them only 1.5mm in size.
I had some trouble finding the 'refresh' button.
sand lotus
google: "MIDI provides up to 16 channels of simultaneous playback. The number of voices is the total number of notes from all the instruments played back through all the channels."
so a voice is an instrument note and if you play more than 1 from the same instrument it becomes polyphonic
noble grove
But you can play notes from different instruments at the same time, right?
sand lotus
the kicker VST foamyguy was playing with the other day would be monophonic. only 1 note which is the kick drum. a polyphonic kick drum would make no sense. you actually want a monophonic synth for basslines and drums.
noble grove
So a midi message contains a channel number and a note number, right?
sand lotus
yes
noble grove
AND a velocity
sand lotus
the channel number i think in this case would be all the same, dedicated to be routed to the cowbell.
i could be wrong
noble grove
and each channel has a default instrument but you can change them in the software?
sand lotus
correct and velocity at the end of the data packet
yes, that's where VST's come in, they substitute the general midi message for something else
i think. i just use the stuff. i honestly don't really know how it all works. 😅
i intended to learn but between neradoc and foamyguy it's so far advanced beyond my understanding i'm just a cheerleader at this point watching everything evolve and unfold before my eyes, it's pretty amazing.
noble grove
Tim, I think you are supposed to send a note off (or all off?) message rather than note zero
OIC
sand lotus
steps
noble grove
I agree, steps
sand lotus
it's why they're known as step sequencers. you can change the amount of steps in a measure too but that's down the road stuff.
usually you're only modifying 1 step at a time. modifying multiple steps at the same time sounds useful but not part of a basic feature set of a sequencer.
like that's a really neat idea i'm all for
usually the VST will handle the octave +1 or -1 in the GUI of the instrument
some synths and sequencers have a physical button for octave shifts, it is a thing and doable.
also all the 6mm buttons i put in there were for making features dedicated to something other than having only 1 encoder to do everything.
i didn't have a specific idea for them but figured they'd come in handy at some point.
orange, the answer is always orange. 🙂
in my early attempts i was using enumerate and was having issues like this. can see now i should have been validating the enumerations.
to a beginner errors are kind of the validator 😛
oh wow, that's awesome.
one of the neat things about MIDI controller or a sequencer specifically is it doesn't actually play any audio files from the pico, only MIDI packets. that would take up a lot of ram.
yeah you're doing a lot of amazing stuff here especially considering you have absolutely no prior midi experience.
noble grove
I think it's 3 bytes
sand lotus
exactly, an entire studio of instruments at your fingertips.
i specifically chose 0.125 because it = 120 BPM
a normal BPM for electronic music
yeah can try to do some calibration stuff later. close enough is plenty for now.
i'll get you that SSD1306 and some orange keycaps, oh and stemma port to solder on there. ran out of those too. i have more now.
i 3D printed some orange step switch caps
turns it into a TR-808 theme
yeah that'll do it, just put some flux on the pin, heat the pin with the soldering iron and the solder should slide down the entire pin
i've had plenty of practice. there's like 350 solder joints and i made more than a few fully assembled for people.
the little bits where you accidentally strike the pin and leave a tiny bit of solder on a long pin it won't go in right let alone connect correctly.
i was actually impressed you got all the LED's and switches soldered up correctly, the grounded pins are such a pain. i had to resolder them multiple times and ensure they'd work.
one of the nice things about the board is there are so many that if you were rusty, you're not by the end.
ok whew, glad it wasn't just me. lol.
0 ohm resistors
which are already in my next revision
it provides a hole so the path to ground isn't directly to the board. it'll go through a resistor trace next time which will allow the switch pins to heat up np.
then the hard one will be the other side of the resistor, so just moving the heat up point. would rather it be at a resistor than overheating something inside a switch.
reason it takes forever to heat up is beause you're literally heating up the entire GND plane of the entire board... that takes a while. :/ learning as i go here too.
lyric sphinx
You are using thermal reliefs (the X thing) or having troubles despite them?
sand lotus
anular ring is tiny, thermal relief barely visible. can definitely say thermal relief didn't do its job if its primary job is to help that GND pin heat up faster.
also enlarged the anular ring in the next revision
because soldering iron barely fits on the ring and pin at the same time
gloomy kernel
I'm new to pico but have seen unexpected results by not putting a sleep before/after a loop in my main.py. Could that be it?
sand lotus
guess and check is my primary mode of coding. it's why i like circuit pythons fast iterations.
true, some drum and bass can get up to 170 bpm
which is something i do occasionally so that would be nice capability.
i honestly have no idea
no plans really just having fun
i do have enough for more kits in. might be missing a few things here and there.
i have a total of 20 boards to give away of v1.2
yeah my confidence in it being 100% ready was over estimated.
in terms of the hardware design
proper prawn
would be something for my son in KY. He was a DJ and put up a kinda disco in the basement of his house.
sand lotus
if anyone is interested feel free to DM me and i'll see how many i get out for a next batch.
gloomy kernel
i have a total of 20 boards to give away of v1.2
Do you have a website we can check out? I'm not a DJ anymore but my brother is messing around with pocket midi controllers and would love this!
sand lotus
not sure i'm comfortable selling them, was trying to prep for a big giveaway for Christmas but the need for beta testing made smaller batches to a few people at a time made more sense.
noble grove
Thanks Tim. Have a good night, and a Happy New Year!🎊
sand lotus
just the github in terms of the TR-Cowbell
proper prawn
Thank you Tim. All a Happy New Year!
sand lotus
i think midi uses note_on for connection sense or at least a protocol packet.
yeah tons of fun!
proven crow
Aww, I just tuned in! Bye all!
noble grove
here's a great video on the midi protocol i watched last night. 10 minutes but ...
I don't think anybody here needs to watch the first half of this video. The second half is a nice, concise explanation of how midi messages are constructed.
sand lotus
yeah first half just goes over base decimal and hex systems
the second part is one of the best videos on the subject i could find. it's missing pieces here and there but they're covered in more of his videos. that guy really knows his midi stuff.
noble grove
Yeah. It's an excellent midi-101 video for a musician who knows nothing about number systems. Yeah there were a few details left out of the second half but it's a perfect refresher for me. If Tim watches it I'm sure it will tell him everything he needs to move forward.
inner spade
@smoky island @sand lotus watching the recorded stream; amazing seeing the sequencer in action. The design is very flexible but also a great fit for the purpose. The synchronized external text display is a concept I’ve been working on, as well. Are you thinking about exploiting ANSI screen commands for generating screen “forms” or perhaps a displayio-compatible graphics protocol? Anyway, thanks for sharing a great sequencer design and today’s stream.
smoky island
<@382939733107408897> <@126221640559362048> watching the recorded stream; amazin...
My initial idea is to use a fairly custom data format rather than any sort of standardized protocol for the display. Essentially planning to send only the data that needs to be displayed and then the other microcontroller is responsible for displaying it, so the sequencer doesn't get influence over how it looks, just the raw data being shown.
Something more generic where one device could instruct another with things like "put a label here with this text in it", "put a grey rect of this size here" etc... might be interesting in the long run though.
Getting started with this morning's stream now. Working on a fix for Label and then back to sequencer display. Watch along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l639xJ3v7k or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch
inner spade
After a step learning curve, finally have a working version of the palette slice wrapper class. Still want to tweak it for better memory management. https://github.com/CedarGroveStudios/CircuitPython_PaletteSlice
A chroma key capability is part of PaletteFilter. Hoping that adding slicing will extend its capability as you mentioned. https://github.com/CedarGroveStudios/CircuitPython_PaletteFilter
Understanding magic methods (dunders) for slicing was the primary challenge in composing rather than inheriting palette properties — since displayio.Palette objects can’t be inherited.
List can’t be inherited either, but it doesn’t break anything if you try. No error message, just some properties don’t work.
inner spade
Ah. When creating a monospaced font from scratch, I set dx to be the same for all characters.
Wondering if the font was converted from a proportional font some time in its genealogy.
Catching the new line (line edge) anomaly was insightful. Nice sleuthing!
inner spade
The shift could be related to the font or glyph bounding box definition. Many fonts use an offset bounding box.
Do some characters in the font have descenders?
In some fonts with descenders the bounding box is specified with a negative y offset value, below a non-descending glyph’s baseline.
Yeah, .bdf font files are somewhat easy to understand. I’ve created a few .bdf fonts manually using pencil and graph paper.
Yes ground would be essential.
upper sandal
hi
(I was watching the start of the stream, circup can install .py files with --py)
you could power the display board from the 5V of the other too, when not using usb data, like they are on a single board with a single power source
inner spade
Use a stair icon for steps?
smoky island
upper sandal
I got a python thing for that somewhere
upper sandal
but apparently I moved it ugh
inner spade
MIDI_Tools is in the community bundle
upper sandal
strings are immutable
you can do:
s = s[:x] + "hi" + s[x:]
if you know you always want to insert something, you could have a {} placeholder and use format(...)
inner spade
string.find(‘#’)
Channels or voice could be represented by sequencer layers. I think of channels as separate synth device where a synth can have multiple voices (instruments). There's a MIDI CC for choosing voices on a single synth channel.
Great design evolution. Thanks for the stream!
open girder
Desk of Ladyada - Kickin' off a Happy New Year with Feathers & PiCowbells https://youtu.be/s2CyeZQPpLA
viral sail
Good evening.
proven crow
Hi all!
pearl shoal
Happy new year folks!
open girder
🙂
slow spire
Happy new year!
verbal river
waiting for "Crib of Babyada" hacking show...
pearl shoal
Nice. I hope @hard hollow and @rocky reef make a box for that with nice button covers
slow spire
@open girder In the realm of unsolicited baby advice, I wanted to point you at SNOO. My former company designed it, and I had to hack one for a museum show on new tech.
lilac tusk
The LDO I use does like 20uA quiescent
I need to find a different RTC that does less than 500uA low power though
slow spire
<@477211731089948682> have one and we have been experimenting with it 🙂
Yay! I used big aluminum buttons, a feather, relay, and RPi from Adafruit to trigger it and a video at San Francisco MoMA.
pearl shoal
Q: (if you’re taking them) what’s the lowest current draw you can get circuitpython down to? I realize it won’t be very low but I’m curious
verbal river
🐮🔔
pearl shoal
Doubler/triplet cowbell?
lilac tusk
Oh never mind, it was 350nA timekeeping
royal adder
Congrats on BabyAda! Hope you're getting some sleep.
open girder
aw thanks folks (here's the post) --- https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/12/31/happy-new-year-2023-2/
teal river
Will you be making PiCow versions of many/all Featherwings?
grand tusk
What kind of glue is safe for tft displays?
pearl shoal
Q: are the cowbells slim enough to do a feather wing/cowbell adapter?
teal river
I love DigiKey's search so much
Can you get other colors? Or just black and white?
I like the bigger actuator!
proven crow
Q: What is ladyada's recommendation for an advanced CircuitPython editor (with linter and formatter support, autocomplete, etc.) I find Mu and Thonny too basic and the plugin for VSCode is unreliable for me.
upper sandal
there is a guide for PyCharm
royal adder
Take care and happy new year.
viral sail
Thanks and good night. 🌔
proven crow
Bye all! Have a good night!
verbal river
Bye
upper sandal
👋
royal adder
That kid's going to grow up and be an accountant or something and break their hearts. ;P
sand lotus
Starting 2023 off with awesome new pico bell lineups and scorpioooo. 🦂
I don’t think a pico bell to featherwing adapter bell/wing would be easy or advisable because each platform has very different pinouts and footprints. That’s a great question though @pearl shoal
royal adder
I've been working on a VFD clock and wanted to support both picos and feathers but the spacing is different and the pinout is different. You'd need a multilayer board to come close I think.
upper sandal
an adapter for using featherwings with the pico could reproduce the pinout of the RP2040 feather, which is known to work with featherwings
royal adder
That's a chip versus the board. You could have a not simple board in between that routed it.
sand lotus
There would need to be a converter board each way. One for pico to featherwing and another for feather to pico bell. Possibly? Plus you run the risk of getting them confused in the future and bad things happening. In general best to just keep the platforms separate. Cross platforming them I’m sure is possible but also the possibility for damage is greater if something goes wrong.
Also in adafruits best interests not to cross platform, so there are either bells or featherwings.
Fielding questions with issues in cross platforming board setups would kinda be a nightmare for support staff too.
inner spade
Yeah, adapters can introduce some incompatibility even if you are careful to support the general usage case. I made a Trinket Feather adapter that got some use bringing wings and Trinkets together (pre-Stemma), but they were tricky. Some interesting jumpers on that one.
strong acorn
there is this https://www.tindie.com/products/arturo182/raspberry-pi-pico-adapter-for-keyboard-featherwing/, but something more like this form factor would be great https://www.adafruit.com/product/3200
echo canopy
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
[Desk of Ladyada - on hiatus]
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
[Ask an Engineer - on hiatus]
John Park's Workshop - 8pm ET Wednesdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
echo canopy
Does JP have a show today at 4? Just curious, normally shows in YouTube as pending … but the above schedule makes it sound like yes ?
haughty quiver
Today is Monday! I'm streaming the Product Pick of the Week show tomorrow.
haughty quiver
No worries, I've been questioning the day of the week for a few days now
echo canopy
Thanks again , see you tomorrow!
charred lion
Is it 4pm yet?
haughty quiver
4pm is a state of mind
shell mason
viral sail
Good afternoon.
haughty quiver
hi!
dusk socket
hi JP
haughty quiver
hi Starman
dusk socket
Looking forward to a great show
teal river
Waiting for boopadoops
cinder wind
THERE ARE FOUR PMS
inner spade
👋
teal river
Boopadoops!
viscid bolt
Good afternoon, all
teal river
Hallo peeps
charred lion
Hello
echo canopy
Happy Tuesday @haughty quiver 😂😂😂 glad the day is now here (I thought yesterday was Tuesday) haha … love JP shows
drowsy inlet
Hello and Happy New Year!
teal river
I wish there was a "buy it now" button so you could buy an individual thing in the event your cart is full of other things you aren't ready to order but don't want to remove or push to a wishlist
queen sentinel
👋
shell mason
some not hide from lars
teal river
I'm getting an error trying to order D:
clever summit
🇸🇪 👋
shell mason
the qt py one have ble?
teal river
Oop, was a payment issue, I got it
teal river
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver
teal river
I only have 1 project I can think of that I could use one, but I got 10 of them XD
Great show!
shell mason
great show JP
inner spade
Thanks!
haughty quiver
thank you all!
shell mason
queen sentinel
thank you all!
Thanks, john!
inner spade
I’d buy an album of JP music with spoken poetry, Bill Shatner style.
teal river
Hehe, that'd be fun
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
teal river
Are they taking a break this week?
rapid hornet
Are they taking a break this week?
Yup, https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/04/no-3d-hangouts-this-week-7/ @drowsy inlet
upbeat coral
They said second week of new year and debated the actual date.
tulip canyon
Hello everyone 👋
proven crow
Hi!
teal river
Hi~
outer obsidian
Hello
knotty valley
Hello
viral sail
Good evening everyone.
open girder
Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/jn77rh3892 .... and/or watch the SHOW AND TELL! HERE https://youtu.be/8jJt4CljJLU
upbeat coral
Hey y'll
teal river
Green screen shenanigans! Hehe
viral sail
Welcome back!
drowsy inlet
welcome back and congrats again!
haughty quiver
hi all!
knotty valley
Liz was great!!!
teal river
Hi JP!
open surge
good evening 🙂
cinder wind
Hi Limor! Hi pt!
teal river
We're all appreciative of everyone at Adafruit! I missed y'all, but the guest hosts were awesome!
tulip canyon
Welcome back!
cinder wind
Hi everyone!
haughty quiver
Hello each Tod
cinder wind
eek also a JP!
haughty quiver
ack! where!
haughty quiver
🫣
alpine nova
hi mom and dad and chat happy new year
teal river
IRQ... shudders
cinder wind
pt's only going to do dad jokes now.. but in black-n-white
alpine nova
and babyada
open girder
we are not really doing social media for baby, but we've shared this one! thank you everyone !
teal river
Colors not matching you can fix with heat shrink or tape!
I use my USB soldering iron to shrink heat shrink a lot
noble grove
Good evening from the United Canadian Socialist Republic. Long live our glorious leader, Justin Castreau.
Sarcasm.
smoky island
nice! love the idea of command hook adapters to mount stuff that doesn't weigh much
slow spire
Hi, all!
pearl shoal
So good to see you all!
robust horizon
hi all!
teal river
LEGO-style coding
robust horizon
Jeff needs a regular segment
@teal river you're too kind
slow spire
@haughty quiver Does it fly?
alpine nova
i enjoyed the jp substitution for aae
noble grove
Looks like a Klingon bird of war.
teal river
<@327304398143488001> Does it fly?
If you throw it, temporarily
noble grove
(or is that Romulan)
alpine nova
that is sooo cool
noble grove
THAT's what I'm talkin' about!
tribal vault
oh that is so cool
slow spire
@haughty quiver $3K / mo in San Francisco
alpine nova
i just wanna sit in there and read
tulip canyon
noooOOds!
cinder wind
DISCO MODE
pearl shoal
Cool model - maybe use a tiny OLED/LCD as a TV where that Mirror is?
cinder wind
Stage a mini murder mystery in the little room
teal river
I want to build a miniature house and a remote control robot that lets you explore it as if it's a full size house
pearl shoal
Or a tiny moving sewing machine? The kind with a foot pedal?
sand lotus
It's like a TARDIS book. very intricate for a kit.
tulip canyon
mini peppers ghost
teal river
JP 2023: The year of smol
noble grove
Or a tiny TV
alpine nova
i got one of those tiny tfts a while back to use in a tiny tv in a diorama
slow spire
mini peppers ghost
Pro tip: Pepper's Ghost != Ghost Peppers
sand lotus
2231puppy, works on a project for a month but now you have your own legit board. it's been nice to watch this project evolve.
tulip canyon
Pro tip: Pepper's Ghost != Ghost Peppers
Pascal's Law
paper peak
I saw the EFidget added to CP today by Dan Halbert
I just approved the PR
smoky island
Awesome, what a fascinating tactile widget!
sand lotus
reverse mounted neopixels too.
teal river
2231puppy, works on a project for a month but now you have your own legit board....
This project grew fast!
noble grove
@haughty quiver TinyCircuits sells a kit including a tiny remote control...
teal river
99% of my code is copied XD
tribal vault
copy button is best button on the guides
haughty quiver
neato @noble grove !
knotty valley
that's super cool
slow spire
Awesome work, @proven crow !
tribal vault
The only code of mine that isn't copied is the code that's tab-completed from GitHub Copilot 🤣
robust horizon
I just copied some code from a guide today
sand lotus
"I copied it sorry..." @proven crow it's not stealing if it's open source... that's actually kinda the point to encourage sharing.
teal river
Seeya soon Lady and Mr. Ada!
alpine nova
bye mom and dad!
hot frigate
proven crow
Bye and thanks all!
sand lotus
Nice to see LadyAda & Phil T back.
tribal vault
good job, 2231puppy! It looked really cool
slow spire
OMG that's so cute! @tulip canyon
robust horizon
yes is cute
sand lotus
oh that's a neat miniature idea.
noble grove
Haxor
teal river
1337 H@X0R
slow spire
Adorbz
alpine nova
love that! reminds me how much i miss living in reno
smoky island
Ooooh, pretty 
sand lotus
i think cgrover palette slicer might work well for that.
proven crow
That's pretty neat! Love the little debounce touch.
sand lotus
if you're interested in possible improvements with palette slicer... but the code looks great as it is really. very nice job.
slow spire
@tulip canyon Maybe add a chk chk chk when you press down the arm
teal river
I need the code, I need to make one!
tulip canyon
Here is the code for the slot machine
https://github.com/somenice/micro-one-armed-bandit/blob/main/code.py
alpine nova
i wanna make one too
teal river
Yay!
alpine nova
thanks for the code!
noble grove
Wow!
robust horizon
that looks sci-fi
teal river
Here is the code for the slot machine
https://github.com/somenice/micro-one-arme...
So the 5x5 BFF and a switch is all you need, right?
sand lotus
super ergonomic
tulip canyon
So the 5x5 BFF and a switch is all you need, right?
Yes the piezo is optional
slow spire
❤️ Fusion 360
teal river
Yes the piezo is optional
I shall make my own spin on this! Thanks for sharing! <3
proven crow
What? That's not an off-the-shelf product? It looks so good!
sand lotus
github for that one kevin? great looking project.
smoky island
Awesome macro pad!
robust horizon
oh my goodness! Nick L is clearly my kind of person
alpine nova
I shall make my own spin on this! Thanks for sharing! <3
i saw what you did there haha
teal river
What? That's not an off-the-shelf product? It looks so good!
That's the lovely thing about switches and sockets being so handy, you can easily use COTS switches and keycaps, and it makes it look professional!
haughty quiver
Yes! Beeeefy Osbourne keeb!
knotty valley
github for that one kevin? great looking project.
Yeah i can do that
teal river
Entirely unintentional I assure you XD
alpine nova
lol ok
teal river
I'd leave the transmitter and battery in a box, lol. That's super cool
slow spire
Osbourne: Since it's portable, let's make the keyboard huge.
viral sail
Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing!
upbeat coral
Thanks to all for taking time for us.
teal river
Osbourne keyboards are buckling spring like the Model M, right?
sand lotus
That's cool to use bluetooth in that way. Any idea on power consumption and battery life? aww i would have liked to see more of that one.
teal river
Good projects everyone!
proven crow
👋 
💜
robust horizon
indeed they were great projects!
slow spire
Thanks, @sage aspen !
alpine nova
thanks
robust horizon
and great hosts
smoky island
Thanks everyone for sharing and all of our hosts.
sage aspen
Thank you everybody who stopped by
tulip canyon
Thanks Melissa, thanks all
charred lion
Hello
stiff reef
I don't think it's a buckling spring keyboard, but there is a lot of travel, and a lot of room in the case for sound to echo
knotty valley
Thanks Melissa
sand lotus
really proud of 2231puppy's progress. congrats!
sage aspen
You're welcome. We had some really cool projects today. Can definitely say it's the best one of the year so far.
noble grove
@charred lion Greetings comrade.
sand lotus
some people are into loud keyboards
knotty valley
Thanks everyone for sharing and all of our hosts.
Thank you soo much for you KMK livestream, it was a huge help.
charred lion
I love my keyboard, all MX Blue switches. Made by Logitech
slow spire
Hey, @noble grove, at least we're looking at you with envy today at your functional government.
stiff reef
unfortuntly because of how they hacked the keyboard reading interface my dream of making the Osborne connect to modern BT keyboards has been dashed for now
jovial estuary
I don't think it's a buckling spring keyboard, but there is a lot of travel, and...
yeah, buckling spring has a very distinctive twangy snappy sound
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/LiYf2Ail7ZM
sand lotus
why would you want your KB to connect to another KB?
teal river
Buckling springs is one of my favorites
lilac tusk
Just a heads up @open girder the LinkedIn live notification says “JP’s Product Pick of the Week”
Lol
sand lotus
oh dual typing? maybe for a lab setup 2 keyboards might come in handy.
upbeat coral
They've yet to realize that this is now the Baby Ada headquarters
sand lotus
kind of like how there are 2 steering wheels on a driving learner car setup
stiff reef
it's a memory read so a normal microcontroller can't respond fast enough. Need a RAM chip or something
verbal river
hi is this the Ask A BabyAda stream? ❓ 👶
lilac tusk
kind of like how there are 2 steering wheels on a driving learner car setup
And a chicken brake
tulip canyon
Did BabyAda get a SKU? short URL? adafru.it/???
slow spire
A learn guide?
teal river
Information: there was discussion about a Pico "port multiplier" type thing, and I remembered I had one of these things from Pimoroni -- not sure if it's good for inspiration or just a design to not accidentally exactly copy, but it's a thing https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pico-decker?variant=32369532108883
lilac tusk
Did BabyAda get a SKU? short URL? adafru.it/???
Yes, product 6666 because child rearing is a cursed endeavor (I have three kids)
Lol
teal river
Question: Will there be a new focus on creating electronics for babies now that y'all have a baby?
dim knot
open girder
@teal river stay tuned 🙂
noble grove
unsolicited noods?
knotty valley
hahaha Noods in the mail, priceless
sand lotus
Hope they mention the CircuitPython2023 wishlist which ends on the 18th. Need to promote asking what features people want to see happen in 2023.
slow spire
unsolicited noods?
Offer not valid in Louisiana.
tribal vault
awwww
noble grove
Necks up?
teal river
OMG! That scan was amazing!
alpine nova
awwww so cute
cinder wind
The ECC-600C is a really good changing table, I have heard
digital crescent
what did you name your kid @open girder?
alpine nova
can’t tell if baby has pink hair in that pic
sand lotus
The surprise when it was revealed like the week of delivery, blew my mind. I had no clue.
teal river
I think it's admirable that y'all are giving your kid privacy so they can decide when they want to be public
lilac tusk
what did you name your kid <@329767998380310538>?
BabyAda obviously
teal river
She!
viral sail
Cosmic Background Radiation plushie, that's awesome!
knotty valley
OMG i need one of my baby!!!
alpine nova
The surprise when it was revealed like the week of delivery, blew my mind. I ha...
same but i did notice limor looked different
teal river
Ohhh, 100W magnetic...
sand lotus
I LOVE my magnetic cables. I use them every day. ❤️ They really are awesome.
unkempt shoal
Hoping a RTL8720DN / BW16 5GHz WiFi breakout can be made.
teal river
I have some magnetic cables, but they aren't great
knotty valley
Baby Hacks!!! want more!!!
tribal vault
I've been using my magnetic cable this week. They're awesome. Really nice to have a microUSB where the direction doesn't matter anymore
stiff reef
next halloween is gonna be LIT (with all of the drool-proofed LEDs)
proven crow
Thanks for the shoutout PT 😊
open girder
10% discount code, code is: kickitoff http://www.adafruit.com #askanengineer @open girder https://youtu.be/LiYf2Ail7ZM
alpine nova
20 min increments. just like hummingbirds
teal river
Question: I got one of these USB power meters, and after opening it, I see it's basically an MCU, EEPROM, and some capacitors and resistors and such... does that mean it's pretty easy to gauge power? Would it be easy to make a clone of this? In function, at least https://www.adafruit.com/product/2690
kindred stirrup
Wow, Congrats!
tribal vault
oh shoot adafruit has the pi zero w in stock? Noice
delicate fractal
I understand the reasons for not posting any photos of Baby-Ada, and I think I agree, but I'm still disappointed there's no baby photos.
shy topaz
Hot glue abuse.
grand hull
Question: Congrats on version 1.0! I’m at version 3.0! Looking to add leak detection using a pressure sensor on my home’s water supply for monitoring during non use for an IOT project. Any recommended resources for food safe pressure sensors to install on my copper plumbing lines? A little nervous ordering off eBay.
sand lotus
I'm thankful for slightly larger pads on the switches. If you run open stacking headers basically i have to use a small screwdriver to push them, however bigger switches means less space on the already limited pcb real estate for ladyada to design stuff. as long as i can push it with a screwdriver it's fine. for the reverse mounted one though the bigger buttons will be welcomed.
teal river
I remember that post!
urban gale
man those JP Youtube images just keep getting weirder ❤️
sand lotus
sally ride, legend.
grand hull
Also what are Baby-Ada’s specs?
hasty frigate
Question: when is the Kelly Heaton “Nightjar” going to be in stock? I’m saving an Adafruit gift card for that.
sand lotus
someday.... i swear.... someday.... Lady Ada is going to be a on a quarter.
teal river
Can't they just meet you at the warehouse? lol
tribal vault
meanwhile Britain has had queen elizabeth on their coins for a while lol
cinder wind
yay Fediverse!
teal river
Question: How close should the voltages for LiPo batteries be when connecting them as a pack?
noble grove
@grand hull Baby-Ada converts milk into dirty diapers.
delicate fractal
meanwhile Britain has had queen elizabeth on their coins for a while lol
Not for much longer.
sand lotus
I've exclusively moved to Mastodon now and so has most makers.
delicate fractal
<@235549222856818691> Baby-Ada converts milk into dirty diapers.
I think it's about a 10% duty cycle
dim knot
teal river
No pressure
charred lion
Can those 5×6 Ortho Snap-apart boards be attached to more. I want to make a huge keyboard 8rows × 32 columns.
dim knot
What is CircuitPython? https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/what-is-circuitpython
teal river
Question: Is there any chance that the website could get something like a "buy it now" on the product pages to order one item, like for JP's PPOTW, if the cart is full of stuff but you're not ready to buy that stuff?
sand lotus
Developer team getting closer and closer to knocking out bugs for a stable full 8.0 release. Definitely going to happen in 2023.
noble grove
Can those 5×6 Ortho Snap-apart boards be attached to more. I want to make a huge...
Wow, 256 neopixels. Should work though.
unkempt shoal
Circuit Python webserver that accepts POST requests.
slow spire
Question: Is there any chance that the website could get something like a "buy i...
Buy it now is, I believe, patented by Amazon. But maybe making it a two-step process could work around.
teal river
You can indeed connect multiples! Not sure on the limits
tulip canyon
I'd like to get into step sequencers in 2023 - (Blink twice if this might be an upcoming Adabox project)
teal river
Buy it now is, I believe, patented by Amazon. But maybe making it a two-step pro...
I would also be satisfied with being able to one-click move my cart to a "saved for later" and one-click to bring it back
Rather than "add to new wishlist" and needing to delete each thing
sand lotus
Even Arduino released a synthesizer, so I feel like midi or music instruments should be in that learning loop somewhere.
noble grove
RP2040 supercomputer.
digital crescent
Evil PT?
tulip canyon
❤️ ❤️🔥
sand lotus
oh yeah did @proven crow get OSHW board certified?
slow spire
Yay Sparkfun!
proven crow
oh yeah did <@525432105224765494> get OSHW board certified?
I honestly didn't really know about it until a few days ago! I'll look into it
charred lion
I bought 10 of those I2C 8 port multiplexers whe JP had them on his show.
sand lotus
most of the makers i know on social media doing open source projects get OSHW certified.
spiral bough
Ooh is that Pixie board new?
proven crow
Feathers. So many Feathers. w a n t
sand lotus
it helps set your board into an license model, open source, prevents IP theft to be used by big corporations that trawl open source projects for stuff to steal...which they definitely do... because it's cheaper to steal and get sued for a successful product. it's a sad truth and why initiatives like OSHW were started.
teal river
I desire droid fren
robust horizon
what an impressive portfolio of projects. all in one year. They amaze me.
urban gale
still want to make that air quality sensor
spiral bough
who made the music? noe, pedro?
or JP?
sand lotus
well someone out there involved with adafruit is making great music or at the very least selecting great background tracks.
cinder wind
usually it's bartlebeats' stuff
sand lotus
there's a lot of advanced techniques being used in that music.
teal river
What was the waterproof DB somethingorother? A project case?
spiral bough
not super new, but: https://soundcloud.com/adafruit/tracks -- EDIT: not super new in that most recent track looks to be 6mo old.
sand lotus
ah that would make sense. i still havent' gotten a chance to listento the actual record. my turntables still aren't setup yet after moving into the new house. i dont even have a desk. :/
noble grove
Bartlebeats?
teal river
Bartlebeats is a music maker
slow spire
sand lotus
I wonder how many people actually own the vinyl. I do. 🙂
open surge
ditto
sand lotus
rip
spiral bough
Just had a thought, what if Adafruit product id's were hex... that would be fun.
noble grove
Ooh look, a Pen-apple!
proven crow
Is that dichromatic PLA?
sand lotus
i love that pen holder, might print that. i'm using a big stainless steel coffee cup and it's so full i can't put more stuff in there.
unkempt shoal
Looking for product ID 2090 to come back in stock.
spiral bough
Is that dichromatic PLA?
There is some trichromatic PLA, I'm a big fan...
open girder
10% discount code, code is: kickitoff http://www.adafruit.com
noble grove
2090 is 82A hex
sand lotus
That would be nice to have a company with so many products that they have to start doing product numbers in hex. It's a neat idea.
unkempt shoal
57 in stock at <:digikey:454318264944820224>
https://www.digikey.com/en/produc...
But those don't have the EYESPI because I ordered one from DigiKey, and it was absent that connector
spiral bough
That would be nice to have a company with so many products that they have to sta...
Or maybe just for the hacker aesthetic make the website let you supply hex product codes and just redirect to base10
sand lotus
HDMI on a feather!?!?! Oh my...
teal river
Question: How would one make a capacitive dropper circuit safer? i.e. ground it?
noble grove
Question: How would one make a capacitive dropper circuit safer? i.e. ground it?
For starters, two input capacitors.
teal river
For starters, two input capacitors.
Like, 2 in series where C1 is on that diagram? Or one on live and one on neutral?
noble grove
One for each leg, in case the wiring is wrong
sand lotus
feather... meet eve
teal river
One for each leg, in case the wiring is wrong
Ahh, gotcha
spiral bough
Question: How would one make a capacitive dropper circuit safer? i.e. ground it?
Keep in mind for the sake of liability, they might not be able to thoroughly address this one... it is a good question, but it might not be ideal for this medium.
noble grove
And you would be sure to use 'rated' capacitors.
teal river
Keep in mind for the sake of liability, they might not be able to thoroughly add...
Fair
teal river
And you would be sure to use 'rated' capacitors.
X or Y rated? Still learning about different cap types...
noble grove
I think they're called 'Y rated' capacitors.
teal river
Y rated sounds right... I've been watching a LOT of Big Clive, lol
noble grove
or maybe X rated. I'm no expert.
teal river
I know it's either X or Y...
slow spire
@teal river What are you making? Could you use a small UL-certified 5V power supply?
noble grove
Like an apple cube
teal river
<@381566293368897537> What are you making? Could you use a small UL-certified 5V...
I want to design a sensor board from scratch with the smallest possible footprint
Like, as small as an Apple USB cube
fossil spear
?Showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
spiral bough
or maybe X rated. I'm no expert.
Not an expert, but from StackExchange, who may also not have been an expert:
Class X Capacitors: These are capacitors are only for use in situations where their failure would not present an electric shock risk, but could result in a fire. That is all. There is no specification as to its failure mode, if it fails open or closed, or if it is across-the-line or not.
cinder wind
Like, as small as an Apple USB cube
For small like modern USB chargers, you want a switching regulator. Limor's MintyBoost schematic is a good place to start for that https://www.adafruit.com/product/14
sand lotus
🆕
unkempt shoal
Hoping a RTL8720DN / BW16 5GHz WiFi breakout can be made.
dim knot
1.8" Color TFT LCD display with MicroSD Card Breakout - ST7735R https://www.adafruit.com/product/358
teal river
For small like modern USB chargers, you want a switching regulator. Limor's Min...
Looking to run off AC -- I have lots of options and experience with DC/battery stuff
spiral bough
Looking to run off AC -- I have lots of options and experience with DC/battery s...
AC is scary, there, I said it. 🙂
noble grove
Eye spi with my little i, something that is RGB.
teal river
Not an expert, but from StackExchange, who may also not have been an expert:
C...
I found a page from a company called "Vicor" that mentions that about X-rated, and says Y-rated won't risk fire, but can cause a shock risk
teal river
AC is scary, there, I said it. 🙂
It is, so I want to get it right XD
dim knot
Adafruit 1.3" 240x240 Wide Angle TFT LCD Display with MicroSD - ST7789 https://www.adafruit.com/product/4313
slow spire
@teal river If it were me, I'd build something that plugs into a well-made, name-brand 5V USB adapter, and err on the side of safety, vs size.
dim knot
OLED Breakout Board - 16-bit Color 1.5" w/microSD holder - EYESPI Connector https://www.adafruit.com/product/1431
slow spire
I might encapsulate the whole thing in a 3D printed case, but I'd watch the thermals, too.
teal river
<@381566293368897537> If it were me, I'd build something that plugs into a well-...
Fair... I also want it to be something that can be direct wired tho, not necessarily plugged into an outlet
dim knot
Mini Analog Thumbstick - Similar to Joycon Style https://www.adafruit.com/product/5628
fossil spear
Is the oled suspectable to burn in?
sand lotus
just make a 2mm pitch to 2.54 breakout.
spiral bough
<@381566293368897537> If it were me, I'd build something that plugs into a well-...
If it were me, I would try to get a USB Male that sticks out and design it to sit atop a phone plug, like where the PCB is the same-ish footprint at the phone charger, and the USB seats into the port on the phone charger..... hrmmm I really really like this idea, might have to do something with it!
urban gale
I'm working so hard to find a reason to use those pot joystics
teal river
drools over RP2040 reels
sand lotus
will there be a breakout for the joystick? hopefully?
noble grove
What freebie do you get if you buy the 3400 RP2040 reel?
teal river
74 cents each is nuts
dim knot
Raspberry Pi RP2040 Microcontroller Surface Mount Chips - Reel of 3400 - 73.5 cents each https://www.adafruit.com/product/5667
teal river
What freebie do you get if you buy the 3400 RP2040 reel?
All of them!!!
dim knot
Raspberry Pi RP2040 Microcontroller - Surface Mount Chips - 100 Pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5668
ScoutMakes FM Radio Board - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/5651
noble grove
For a whole reel you'd think ten of each. LOL
spiral bough
@open girder TVA? Like in Loki? (Edit, had to look it up, Time Variance Authority)
sand lotus
ohh a 100 pack... great for makers with commercial boards for lectronz or tindie.
please stock todbots new midisynthplug. that thing looks amazing.
the radio project should be part of that learning path or merit badge run.
spiral bough
Oooh I like that!
dim knot
Adafruit IoT Button with NeoPixel BFF Add-On for QT Py and Xiao https://www.adafruit.com/product/5666
tulip canyon
Question: Does the FM Radio board do data aka RDS?
YES - The RDA5807 also has RDS (Radio Data System) capability
teal river
Reminds me of Amazon Dash
sand lotus
ohhh all i see is a way to 3D print a custom step switch
open surge
Question: Does the FM Radio board do data aka RDS?
YES - The RDA5807 also has R...
The product page says yes
nova totem
do you ever need more then a big button and a neopixel?
noble grove
@tulip canyon according to the product page yes
sand lotus
with castellated pads to place where you want on a pcb. oh i'm definitely picking some of those up to experiment creating custom switches with.
spiral bough
do you ever need more then a big button and a neopixel?
Never!
cinder wind
PRESS BUTTON RECEIVE COOKIE* (*cookie may be LED blinking)
dim knot
Adafruit Sensirion SHT45 Precision Temperature & Humidity Sensor - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/5665
tulip canyon
Question: Does the FM Radio board do data aka RDS?
YES - The RDA5807 also has R...
RDS or RTFM lol
nova totem
PRESS BUTTON RECEIVE COOKIE* (*cookie may be LED blinking)
Blinking LEDs and cookies are two of my favorite things
sand lotus
multiplexers in both 4 & 8 port varieties now too
teal river
Question: Why do some I2C devices have a single address, but some offer like 4 or 5?
noble grove
Blinking LEDs and cookies are two of my favorite things
How about blinkin' cookies?
devout fox
QUESTION: I want to control a small 5V (2A) PWM fan from a pin on a Metro M0 board. I know the output can't provide that full power but if I use something like the new Adafruit MOSFET Driver is the PWM signal still passed through to the fan or is the signal smoothed or lost?
tulip canyon
The matte black boards and silkscreen are 🔥
echo canopy
Question for the show @open girder
ESP32 variants are one of the most popular boards available , not all of the have DACs and I2S seems like a better way Ito go. I could also see a use for a SD card or SPI chip storage for audio clips ?
Thanks for reviewing the question and welcome back 😀
proven crow
PRESS BUTTON RECEIVE COOKIE* (*cookie may be LED blinking)
IoT cookie dispenser where you give the button to someone you trust to moderate your cookie intake? 👀
sand lotus
it's built into the physical sensor, I2C is a chip level thing, it's either in the chip/sensor or not. some have external addressing and some do not.
for those that don't there are now multiplexers to chain multiple together regardless if they have an I2C address pad changes or not.
as long as it's I2C device you can use a multiplexer to add more.
actually one of the great things Adafruit came out with in 2022
When there's a scenario with tons of cables I always think of the movie Brazil.
proven crow
The "it never works during a demo" rule is at play
noble grove
MORE COWBELL!
urban gale
In the remake or Raiders, Indy will fall into a pit of usb cables
sand lotus
brings up a good point, no SD card bell for the Pico yet?
devout fox
Are you Sam Lowery? Central Services Here
proven crow
OLED PiCowbell?
slow spire
Blinking LEDs and cookies are two of my favorite things
"Cookie with blinking LEDs", courtesy DiffusionBee
sand lotus
and voila there it is, nvm
charred lion
What capacity of uSD card do they support
calm sphinx
i'm really excited about all the QT Py BFFs coming out omg
charred lion
HC or XC
nova totem
"Cookie with blinking LEDs", courtesy DiffusionBee
I'm pretty sure if I made one I'd accidently eat an LED or three
proven crow
No question from me, but wishing the new parents and BabyAda a happy and healthy 2023!
sand lotus
what is RDS?
teal river
Ohh, so I2C address offering is all on the maker... so maybe space constraints...
sand lotus
does the scout radio do the emergency weather bands? not sure if that's am or fm though.
slow spire
what is RDS?
Radio Data System (RDS) is a communications protocol standard for embedding small amounts of digital information in conventional FM radio broadcasts. RDS standardizes several types of information transmitted, including time, station identification and program information. -- wiki
teal river
Question: Is there any chance that the website could get something like a "buy it now" on the product pages to order one item, like for JP's PPOTW, if the cart is full of stuff but you're not ready to buy that stuff?
noble grove
@teal river Some i2c chips have multiple addresses, some don't.
nova totem
does the scout radio do the emergency weather bands? not sure if that's am or fm...
Believe it is AM and at 160Mhz give or take depending on your area
sand lotus
I have a 128GB card working on the FeatherTFT with the NRF52840....
verbal river
Adafruit is woman-owned, but ladyada & pt are baby-owned.
echo canopy
Question yeah was it possible to make a Feather I2s board …..
sand lotus
overkill, but it works, FAT32 np.
open girder
@verbal river yep
noble grove
if they have multiple addresses then whether they are accessible is up to the board maker.
teal river
Ahh, yeah, I should wishlist instead of cart for my long-term order collection
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us.
teal river
Great show! Glad y'all are back!
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌔
echo canopy
Goodnight 🌙
open surge
good show, thank you!
tulip canyon
Thank you Limor and PT. All the best in 2023!
devout fox
Thank you 🙂
proven crow
Goodnight all! Thanks for a great show
sand lotus
Thank you and welcome back! Congrats on 2022 achievements and looking forward to 2023!
spiral bough
@open girder thanks for being awesome and worthy of support!
delicate fractal
multiple BOMs would be a good idea too
slow spire
Thanks, family Ada! 👶
verbal river
Bye
teal river
Good luck with baby!
calm sphinx
good night!! thank you for a great show!!
noble grove
Thank you. All the best to baby-ada
cinder wind
thank you pt & limor! nice to see your videoness
haughty quiver
Thanks guys, great show!
urban gale
Thanks for another great show! G'night all!
nova totem
Thanks @open girder glad to see you back (even if I only saw the end bit of the show) and glad to see the addition is going well!
delicate fractal
My son would be hard to feed if we let him sleep more than 4 hours.
hunger made him cranky
tulip canyon
Parenthood comes with moment of Zzzzzzzzzz's
spiral bough
now back to Dimension 20...
sand lotus
I laughed when Phil called the baby a mogwai last week. Dated reference that everyone might not get, so true though.
teal river
teal river
Lol. Thanks Wikipedia
noble grove
new parts done
teal river
All done for tonight
royal adder
I'm talking about the kid they're talking about 🙂
teal river
Ahh. We got a sonograph and a picture of Lady Ada holding Baby Ada, but that's all we're gonna get -- they've decided not to do social media for her
So no live face or anything
teal river
Right words, just odd letter swap choices XD
Unlike me saying “summing or udder” instead of “something or other”, lol
rancid depot
does the scout radio do the emergency weather bands? not sure if that's am or fm...
The ScoutMakes radio board is a FM receiver.
rancid depot
Believe it is AM and at 160Mhz give or take depending on your area
its FM - 50MHz to 115MHz
lavish patrol
👋 😀
charred lion
Hello
teal river
Glad we're getting back to JP on Thursday!
inner spade
👋
lavish patrol
Glad we're getting back to JP on Thursday!
Indeed.
teal river
Stares at screen
lavish patrol
Lol
teal river
I bet Lars has been chewing on cables again
lavish patrol
Yep. It's his jive.
ivory flax
Afternoon John. Hope you have a good show
teal river
If Lars allows it...
haughty quiver
heh
lavish patrol
Yay!
teal river
2023, the year of normality
shell mason
viral sail
Good afternoon.
teal river
It's cool and kinda soggy here
cinder wind
wait, there's a WORLD WIDE web now?
teal river
RP2040 available as 1, 10, 100, or 3400
shell mason
🌧️ 
fossil spear
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
teal river
gasp DoL has a set time??? Not Random Hacker Hours???
teal river
Dadood?
lavish patrol
Watchamacallit.
teal river
The Adafruit lineup is nearly 7 days a week...
cinder wind
everyone post images now to get on the youtube
teal river
fossil spear
Images of?
teal river
Waiting for my I2C splitters to come!
cinder wind
dang missed it
teal river
Can you do different press lengths? Like, short press, 2 second long press, 5 seconds, 10 seconds, etc.?
midnight plinth
Useful! Thanks John.
ivory flax
Does this work with capacity touch too?
cinder wind
Can you do different press lengths? Like, short press, 2 second long press, 5 se...
I don't think so. Just short & long
teal river
Darn
lavish patrol
Short count - Dracula was only 4'4 tall...
smoky island
Does this work with capacity touch too?
Yes. you can hook it up to touch, or honestly anything that has a function that returns true or false can be used with debouncer.
inner spade
I have a pressing use for Button.
shell mason
all the short presses
cinder wind
Also the built-in keypad library does debouncing for individual buttons (but not short/long)
smoky island
Can you do different press lengths? Like, short press, 2 second long press, 5 se...
I think it doesn't have support for multiple different lenghts. But you can check the down duration and have your own logic at different intervals.
teal river
Makes sense
lavish patrol
shell mason
something cool is with how strong is pressed
teal river
Pico NES W when
teal river
DVI breakout, added to cart!
charred lion
The old Blackberry 's used that short/long press trick for lowercase/uppercase
lavish patrol
I see JP subs to all the cool Youtube channels...
teal river
Link for the OTG breakout?
Ohhhh, OTG with power injection
You can make those :D
Would you be able to power the controller via a regular OTG and power the Pico from another source?
cinder wind
this was the link to the project JP is showing? https://github.com/fhoedemakers/pico-infonesPlus
cinder wind
teal river
Nice
shell mason
Pico SNES W with CowBell edition could be great
teal river
I think all NES games ever is less than a gig XD
cinder wind
I think it's pretty cool people are still playing NES and Atari games, that they're not forgotten and all that
shell mason
Lars approve the andy message
teal river
I think it's pretty cool people are still playing NES and Atari games, that they...
Good games never get old
shell mason
some are still doing demos for them as Commodore 64
wind spoke
So this is not using the official NES joystick you showed recently...
teal river
Using an SNES controller, blasphemy :P
lavish patrol
We have liftoff!
teal river
THE DEMO LIVES