live-broadcast-chat

[robust horizon]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5206

[echo canopy]

@haughty quiver

[sand lotus]

the solderless eyespi connector is going to be sooo nice to have when they put that on all displays.

[robust horizon]

@haughty quiver do you know the answer about powering from AAA batteries?

and will it affect your framerate adversely? 😁

[echo canopy]

Don’t forget to unplug the USB 😀

[robust horizon]

(the CPU speed is the same on battery or not so it shouldn't)

Thanks JP! Glad I could help you out with the demo for today.

[drowsy inlet]

thanks jp

[robust horizon]

"I like candycorn" are the last words anyone ever heard from JP

[open surge]

thanks JP!

[haughty quiver]

thanks @robust horizon ! Sucha rad demo

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[waxen bough]

Now that's a nice little web server!

[midnight plinth]

@robust horizon Thanks, got one!

[dry marten]

Thanks for the show

[mint heart]

thanks folks. i think ill use this to trigger an air horn if the light doesn't turn on (aka, young person refuses to prepare for school)

[midnight plinth]

JP is the devil of the wallet. Mine shrinks every time he's on.

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/p4nkuexw54

[robust horizon]

hey all!

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/ab4ffkWM-JQ

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[open surge]

good evening

[nova totem]

Hello everyone!

[blissful apex]

Hello

[robust horizon]

oooh I like that case .. is it laser cut?

[cinder wind]

@open surge told me there's something called "Snow and Bells" going on right now?

[open surge]

The snow will be here soon enough in Minnesota

[nova totem]

It can hold off for a while longer though

[steep mica]

@open surge the one time I've been to MN was the first weekend of Nov... and yes it snowed

[open surge]

breaking records right now, in the 70s today!

[cinder wind]

Tell me about it, it actually rained today and got under 70ºF in Pasadena. Brrr!

[nova totem]

I was laughing at my friends in alberta who got snow already. I mean it will be short lived glee

[tulip canyon]

Snowed here in BC already

[delicate fractal]

They'll get a chinook in february and return the favour...

[tulip canyon]

Satisfying clicky

[nova totem]

To be fair they would have been on me for that regardless if I was warm now or not

[smoky island]

Awesome job interfacing with that old IBM clacky beast! ⌨️

[tulip canyon]

What's the connecter PS2?

[delicate fractal]

The current model M's from unicomp are still pretty good, although they're a lot lighter...

[cinder wind]

That should be a series @robust horizon does: "What's My Next Keyboard?!"

[open surge]

new Adafruit show!

[delicate fractal]

nope! it's a 5-pin din, about 1cm/half-inch connector

[cinder wind]

same as MIDI DIN connector if I recall

[steep mica]

.... so it's MIDI compatible

[cinder wind]

lol

[robust horizon]

It's the same physical connector as MIDI but different electrical

[delicate fractal]

It definitely looks like a MIDI connector, but I thought the spacing was different so you couldn't connect one to the other accidentally

[steep mica]

I feel like we should still try

[robust horizon]

check out the guide ... https://learn.adafruit.com/ibm-pc-keyboard-to-usb-hid-with-circuitpython

[steep mica]

can't be that different 😉

[robust horizon]

oh liz that's so cool

[delicate fractal]

Wubba Lubba Dub Dub!

[steep mica]

super cool liz

[tulip canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cow-mascot-mexico-going-ham-gif-4403131

[nova totem]

that is an amazing 3d case @split gazelle

[smoky island]

Nice job liz! this makes a great starting point for people to build web based remote control functionality and sensor reporting.

[split gazelle]

thanks! the color is achieved with layer swaps

[split gazelle]

thank you!

[steep mica]

I'm gonna have to rewatch the beginning of this stream to see where the lickable bit came from

[robust horizon]

I'm just super thrilled at Liz's guide, because she's building on the Pico W code that I got to write. I love it when y'all turn something I wrote into something useful, cool, pretty, educational, etc etc. One of the best parts about getting to work with this community.

[nova totem]

layer swaps are always fun

[robust horizon]

and liz is so good at what she does, she makes it look effortless

[split gazelle]

aw thanks so much Jeff! it's been a great experience working with your code

[robust horizon]

atari xegs (photo from the internet, not mine) http://www.nightfallcrew.com/wp-content/gallery/atari-xe-system-xegs-with-accessories/IMG_0330.jpg

[delicate fractal]

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

[nova totem]

Finding info on waterproofing my weather station outside was hard enough, let alone submerging the whole project! Great work

[steep mica]

Ada-tar

[robust horizon]

sadly I only got the keyboard part

[tribal vault]

The "Help" button just calls your resident millenial to answer computer-related questions

[split gazelle]

i'd be down to attempt to rebuild the accessories 😺

[nova totem]

Keep museum technology running, maintainable and cheap is such a huge issue for them

[open surge]

don't lick the trolls

[robust horizon]

I wonder if there's something in the genre of light zapper that could work with modern computers and be homemade... ?

[delicate fractal]

The light gun will be a nightmare. They used to just report when they saw the scanline on your TV. Not sure how to fake it...

[open surge]

Here's a picture of the trolls, more at the 500px link: https://500px.com/photo/1054992136/img_0837-by-paul-cutler

[nova totem]

That's really cool @open surge

[tulip canyon]

Thanks everyone. Inspiring projects as always

[delicate fractal]

The Wii does it, but I don't think it would be particularly easy to get that system to emulate the old light guns for old consoles.

[digital crescent]

That's cool. I'm also 2 hours west of Eu Clair. Are you in MPLS/ST Paul?

[sand lotus]

https://github.com/DJDevon3/My_Circuit_Python_Projects/tree/main/Multi-Board Projects/Dragon Mask Halloween 2022

[nova totem]

@sand lotus do the boards talk to each other at all?

[open surge]

I am! I'm in Chaska

[robust horizon]

yeah though later wii titles emphasized the gyro & other sensors over the light bar .. so maybe something that looks zapper-ish but is using a 9dof sensor under the hood...

[delicate fractal]

The Wii's pointer system works reasonably well, but I think the 9dof stuff was just more natural for most user-interfaces.

[sand lotus]

@nova totem No, they're all separate with different functions.

my first time doing anything like that so just wanted to make sure they work without making everything integrated and complicated.

[robust horizon]

I notice that when I type "live" into my address bar I get https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live and not anybody else .. hm

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 11/2/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/Ur8MsnF7Eo0

[sand lotus]

👋

[noble grove]

Hello from Toronto

[turbid hill]

So in Calgary we had our first Blizzard of the season

[sand lotus]

saw that, looks cold

[noble grove]

We're still waiting for a good frost to kill the ragweed.

[turbid hill]

walking to work this morning into 50+kph wind and blowing snow was interesting

[nova totem]

Manitoba will currently laugh at our way beyond average warm weather today. Just don't ask about it next week

[delicate fractal]

I am not really expecting a winter in Toronto anymore.

[noble grove]

Those of us who are allergic to ragweed.

[turbid hill]

yeah I heard Toronto +15

[tulip canyon]

4:38 PM PDT Wednesday 02 November 2022
Special weather statement in effect for:

Whistler
Heavy snow Thursday afternoon through Friday morning.

Location: Whistler, Pemberton, and Highway 99 from Brandywine to Pemberton.

Total snowfall: 10 to 20 cm.

[robust horizon]

oh dang while live I forgot to give a shout out to @empty swallow and @vivid ore for helping me out with some questions about that keyboard today when I was under time pressure to finish the guide. -- thanks again, both of you

[turbid hill]

oh noes no pink pcb's so sad

[sand lotus]

@robust horizon oh i wanted to ask, because i had gloves on i couldn't type... what does the help button do though??

[vivid ore]

I missed the stream as usual anyways, nbd

[noble grove]

13 today, 12 tomorrow, 17 on Friday

[sand lotus]

dragons... not much incentive to want to get close enough to lick one.

oh yeah almost all the electronics are all adafruit

thankfully the snout is nice and deep to stuff electronics in there like a stocking

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: spiflash http://www.adafruit.com

[nova totem]

Resistor packs are an items I've seen used but never think of for when I am doing my own design

[delicate fractal]

Resistor packs: were those the things that were used to terminate MFM hard drive buses (IIRC)?

[turbid hill]

scsi

drives

[delicate fractal]

Ah! Yeah. Been so long since I worked with scsi

[shell mason]

DJdevon something to improve also could be get something filtering or clear the audio from dragon mask when user wear it

[robust horizon]

I think MFM may also have had termination resistors. I don't remember it myself but this page seems to indicate so: http://avitech.com.au/?page_id=2060

[tribal vault]

look at that pink feather rp2040

[sand lotus]

it's not designed to be worn with a headset lol, wasn't exactly in my design plan but i can't really show it off and talk at the same time either.

[turbid hill]

sorry been 30 years since I had to work on a MFM/RLL drive

[sand lotus]

i LOVED the pink feather, personality.

[urban gale]

nice

[shell mason]

@sand lotus you wanted something button or other for your gloves well there is that loomia etextiles and also jenax seems to have textiles https://jenaxinc.com/products/textiles/

[dim knot]

https://adabox.com/

[delicate fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoNhqmEsnY

[shell mason]

return of the adabox :=

[ebon stratus]

HOORAY for ADABOX 23...fine-a-lee

[sand lotus]

interesting, thank you but the dragon skull will likely get hung on my wall until next halloween.

lots of people requesting adabox info in discord, i'm sure there's going to be a lot of happy people out there.

[vivid ore]

holy $#*^ best news so far

I skipped one adabox not knowing it would be the last one for almost two years haha

[sand lotus]

i don't do lego's but everytime i see inductive led's i think they'd be great in a lego set

[dim knot]

https://jobs.adafruit.com/

[vivid ore]

eyyy my old alma mater

WIsh I had the space to pick up another full time haha

[sand lotus]

Did Raspberry Pi actually put out a statement on Nov 1 like they said, if so i missed it

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[open surge]

they did

[upper sandal]

yeah I wonder if someone at Microsoft knows somebody at Apple to mention that to ?

[turbid hill]

Maybe Apple mac os is not understanding FAT12 anymore properly since a lot of the MC drives are FAT12

[upper sandal]

it's a Finder thing too

[delicate fractal]

System7, unix v7. 7 seems to be an auspicious number.

[turbid hill]

It seems the CLI can do it but not the gui

[upper sandal]

we already had another issue with the Finder, where sometimes it opens a file on the wrong drive when you have multiple boards connected, that one is not fixed

[turbid hill]

Malwarebytes is currently broken on Ventura

[tulip canyon]

I use the oldest but supported OS. They drag me along

but I'm also using CircuitPython 8.0.0.4

[sand lotus]

i could have my own swimming pool filled with the tears of apple early adopters.

[ornate bay]

It's one of the reasons I've enjoyed Manjaro as an OS - I can have bleeding edge, but rarely opt for and stick with stable.

I'm totally able to break my own things without help 😆

[turbid hill]

KDE Neon for me

[sand lotus]

i have my own pid and i haven't finished my board development 100% yet.

it's pretty easy for developers to get and recommended.

[vivid ore]

Is USB VID/PID required for ESP32? It doesn't have native USB, but I'm also not fully well-versed in web/BT workflow...

[ebon stratus]

What happened to the Floppy project? Shelved due to busy?

[robust horizon]

@vivid ore no, we have creatorid/creationid instead.

[turbid hill]

generally anything that plugs into a usb port that you might want access even if it's only serial will have VID/PID

[upper sandal]

creation ID are in the FAQ too 😉

[open girder]

@ebon stratus hardware arrived, coming out soon!

[robust horizon]

the esp32 serial adapter will have a vid/pid, but we don't require those to be unique (they usually can't be changed)

[upper sandal]

yeah that makes it harder to identify those boards in Mu or stuff, but we have to deal with it

[sand lotus]

will the wch driver for example give it the vid/pid or does that depend on the flash chip per board?

[upper sandal]

that would be the chip

[turbid hill]

I have only come accross one device that had a copied VID/PId and that was a cheap webcam

[ornate bay]

wow, not just the water, it's a ton of LEDs!

[steep mica]

this is epic lol

amazing

[robust horizon]

excellent sound track too

wonders what kind of music actually plays at the dive bar

[turbid hill]

it's like guess the board being soldered

[tulip canyon]

Still freaked that tank is suspended over the bar. Amazing work by Erin

[sand lotus]

What is that wick thing dipped into the solder pot? gallium to break the surface tension?

[robust horizon]

That's why you hire an engineer to build your suspended aquarium

[sand lotus]

specifically a structural engineer, not an electrical one, that would be bad

[turbid hill]

there you go the answer to why there is extra pin headers in item bag

[robust horizon]

the way the not-yet-sealed pouches hang open made me think of the martians mouths https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTc3PsW5ghQ

[sand lotus]

gamblor's yep eyes too

[robust horizon]

also imagine children today discovering an antique rotary telephone...

[delicate fractal]

There's a video of that on youtube...

[ebon stratus]

Frightening pick n place operator LOL

[robust horizon]

of course there is

[delicate fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkuirEweZvM
The whole Kids React videos is pretty awesome.

[sand lotus]

oh that's neat. NFC stuff is pretty cool sometimes.

[ornate bay]

Over The Garden Wall!!!!!

[turbid hill]

I know this tune but boy is it burning my brain to figure out it's name

[sand lotus]

i don't think adafruit gets enough credit for all the great music clips. great mood setters.

[ornate bay]

Such as spook time classic

[sand lotus]

36V good lord.

what amperage though

3.7A, plenty to drive a ton of neopixels

ok what display are we talking about for 36V?

if it's top secret then ignore that

[robust horizon]

Yeah I'm not sure it's appropriate for neopixels since they do their own current & brightness regulating

but say you had 10 noods wired in series, it'd be good for that...

[dim knot]

Adafruit Micro Lipo - USB LiIon/LiPoly charger - v2 https://www.adafruit.com/product/1304

[sand lotus]

after needing so many different battery chargers for my mask project i've come to love these little lipo chargers and ordered a couple of the new ones. they're great because a USB plug is always nearby for just about anyone these days.

[dim knot]

Adafruit Si5351A Clock Generator with STEMMA QT - 8KHz to 160MHz https://www.adafruit.com/product/5640

[harsh pebble]

I made it, George!

[robust horizon]

such a cute version of the board, and cleverly can still work with one SMA output so 👏

a great compromise

[harsh pebble]

And I still have the show playing in the YouTube mini-player on my phone!

[sand lotus]

i prefer edge launch vs ufl after working with the lora boards. doesn't take much to bump a ufl connector wrong and it'll unplug easily.

[dim knot]

Adafruit SPI FLASH Breakout - W25Q16 - 16 Mbit / 2 MByte https://www.adafruit.com/product/5635

[sand lotus]

smart idea giving it a blank silkscreen for writing a label on it. the lettering on winbond chips is so tiny.

[robust horizon]

hello my name is littlefs

[cinder wind]

mmm LittleFS

[robust horizon]

oddly nobody seems to have made anything called "smolfs", though it turns out it is a surname

[rotund marsh]

Finding the conveniently compact BSS138 is too slow for NeoPixel's 800khz data signal. For compact SMD should I use SN74LVC1T45, or something else to do fast logic level shift from 3.3v to 5v? Uberguide is awesome but points to a bulky quad logic level shifter https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-neopixel-uberguide

[robust horizon]

@rotund marsh https://cdn-learn.adafruit.com/assets/assets/000/054/683/original/leds_neopxl8-wing-schematic.png?1527695475 looks like adafruit has used 74vhcd125 as level shifter for at least one project

[vivid ore]

Do you suspect that with the advent of CP8 on ESP32, another wave of dual-core feature requests might turn up?

[sand lotus]

are we talking gamma rays? maybe Dr. Banner?

[harsh pebble]

Does the WeAct STM32H750 work with STM32CubeIDE?

[upper sandal]

note that we have the wifi on the second core on ESP32-S3, I don't know how that's done on ESP32

[harsh pebble]

Thanks!

[sand lotus]

think the S3 has some camera stuff reserved too?

[echo canopy]

Question I recently found out you can change the “ partition scheme” in Arduino to have more space for code …. Have you seen any pro/cons of having most of the space for coding ? Is there more to it than just space allocated?

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌔

[robust horizon]

@harsh pebble https://www.st.com/en/microcontrollers-microprocessors/stm32h750-value-line.html#tools-software has a link to STM32CubeIDE so it's probably gonna work

[cinder wind]

And Teensy LC uses the 74LV1T125 https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensylc.html for NeoPixel level shifting

[rotund marsh]

Thank you Team Adafruit!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for sharing your time with us

[delicate fractal]

In the age of Aquarius... 😄

[cinder wind]

Thank you Limor & pt!

[harsh pebble]

Thanks, Adafruit!!! Have a great night, Everyone!

[sand lotus]

👋 🎃

[robust horizon]

night all!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks again Adafruit

[ornate bay]

Thanks y'all!

[noble grove]

QUESTION: PCF8574/PCF8575 I2C GPIO Expanders or the MCP23017 I2C GPIO Expander drive neopixels?

[cinder wind]

neither can drive neopixels. If you want an I2C-to-Neopixel converter, your best bet is a seesaw board like: https://www.adafruit.com/product/5233

[noble grove]

That should work. Thanks

[empty swallow]

No problem! I'm just glad I could help :3

[ivory kiln]

@open girder Limor, you had mentioned how "challenging" it can be when using a chromebook with circuit python boards, could you please have someone do a modern tutorial on how best to get it to work? I've been trying to get my CPB to work with my Chromebook for a while, your commenting about it is really quite timely. Help?

[ornate bay]

Someone in #help-with-circuitpython might be able to provide insight, I've used Chromebook with the Linux stuff activated but never with CircuitPython.

[ivory kiln]

Thanks. Planning on doing that, but also figured I'm prob far from the only one with this problem if Limor is talking about it. Hence the asking about a how to tutorial. #WorldsNotAboutMeItsAboutWe 😉

[sand lotus]

👋

[clear matrix]

Heads up, folks: https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/11/03/john-parks-workshop-returns-next-week-11-10-22-adafruit-johnedgarpark-adafruit/

[sand lotus]

oops

thank you

[clear matrix]

You're welcome!

[viscid bolt]

Time to go watch Wednesday's shows, that I missed.

[cinder wind]

I'm watching it just fine...

[clear matrix]

Todbot: Makin' it work since 19mumbledymumble!

[grand tusk]

I thought maybe the Time Variance Authority had nabbed JP. 😲

[smoky island]

I 'm running just a few minutes behind this afternoon. Deep Dive stream will be starting up shortly, but likely a few minutes past the top of the hour.

[sand lotus]

👋

[inner spade]

👋

[grand tusk]

👋🍠

[inner spade]

Twitch is working for me.

[sand lotus]

5pm EST

[modern night]

heyo all! Hope everyone's doing well. I've got a thunderstorm near me and am enjoying the late fall thunder

[inner spade]

Extremely windy here. Watching the trees bend and leaves racing down the road. Hoping they don’t stop in my yard.

[grand tusk]

Happy Codevember everyone.

[sand lotus]

Kinda windy day in FL too. I guess there's a cold stream coming down? Sounds good to me, it's still 82F here.

was going to ask about the new pc, congrats!

[inner spade]

Cool. Would enjoy watching the setup of a dev environment from scratch.

[sand lotus]

could also point people to your entire setup video for some guides too

like the board ci build guide

[left pier]

write a script to setup your machine \ dev environment ...

local CI\CD ...

DevOps would be a better word

[left pier]

The video will have a transcript you can download

[sand lotus]

sometimes trying to print is a mistake and will crash your IDE. learned that plenty working with API's, call too much JSON info and the microcontroller RAM gets overloaded and crashes. 😛

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[left pier]

I was just with you on the other stream!

👋

Yeah, there was a launch for a new LED controller board.
https://quinled.info/quinled-dig-octa/

[proper prawn]

Hi Tim and all present. I think you, Tim, have already been streaming for an hour. I checked in at my usual time 10pm but we changed to standard time so I have to check in at 9pm my time ha ha

[left pier]

I stumbled on to that site last week...

Bought one of the smaller boards last week.

So basically search engines work I guess... 🙂

And happened to notice @clever summit in their discord

[clever summit]

I am ever present.

[left pier]

ha!

So your brain works like mine.

[inner spade]

Green is good.

[brazen grove]

bon soir

thanks god it's friday

I was watching some superconf stuff

[left pier]

Great job @smoky island !

[brazen grove]

it started already

[left pier]

link ?

[brazen grove]

I'm in the prize finals with pewpew

[brazen grove]

https://hackaday.io/superconference/

[left pier]

Congrats @brazen grove !! That's awesome!

[brazen grove]

thanks

[inner spade]

Oh yeah. Pylint 3.11 was causing issues. They downgraded to 3.10 for the learning guide repo to break the log jam. @smoky island

[clear matrix]

@smoky island Thank you for the PR! I approved it. pre-commit appears to be failing. I noted on the PR, but also wanted to let you know here - feel free to merge the PR when you have it passing.

[clear matrix]

It's on our radar to update Pylint to resolve the issue. But, it will be a lot of work, so we're making sure folks have cycles before we go through with the change.

[smoky island]

Thank you! Looking into that pylint issue now. does appear to be a known issue with new python.

[clear matrix]

Ah fair enough. We're in the middle of fixing a lot of the Pylint related failures on the libraries, but I think this repo is not includes. Please make whatever changes are necessary to get it back up and running.

[left pier]

Gotta run, thanks @smoky island for the stream...

[inner spade]

In Ancient Rome, 3.X = 3.10

[brazen grove]

that's III.X

we should write all version numbers with roman numerals, and have people try to match them with regular expressions

[modern night]

oof, yeah this level of integration issues makes sense since 3.10 and 3.11 does a lot to change the parser and it made precommit and black restructure significantly (if I recall correctly, which is not a guarantee)

I'm really bad at keeping my python versions ordered and kept track up. I have one env in 3.10 so I can use a library called pymc for some data sciencey stuff, and then most of my other things run on 3.7. (Which I need to spend some time and migrate away from)

awesome, thanks for the stream! always neat to see insight into the CI stuff. Have a good one all!

[inner spade]

Great stream. Thanks!

[sand lotus]

Cron is 10am stars are everyday etc…

[clever summit]

Have a nice weekend!

[sand lotus]

Thanks for streaming.

[clear matrix]

Thanks @smoky island!

[proper prawn]

Thanks Tim!

[smoky island]

Starting up the stream now working on setting up dev environment on the new box. Watch on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6DwUHfZH2o

[clever summit]

Hey Tim!

[modern night]

Hey all, hope your day is well!

[clever summit]

It actually installs the apps another way on Windows, so it can be confused if you have an existing install.

I always install the apps with their own installer because of that.

I can recommend Datagrip if you do database work. Supports loads of different vendors.

[inner spade]

👋

[clever summit]

Datagrip is way better than SQL Manager that I had to use daily before... 🙂

[sand lotus]

👋

Just about had a heart attack this morning. Assembled my new sequencer board and none of the lights work. After much head scratching figured out I used 470K ohm resistors instead of 470 ohm.

about 4K ohm is enough to make the LED's not work, 470K ohm is guaranteed blackout lol

so will be de-soldering resistors while listening to your stream this afternoon

[modern night]

Maybe at some point the system needs a reboot to make these changes take place?

[modern night]

at least too much resistance is (usually) better than not enough when building a board

[sand lotus]

i know ubuntu's logo is orange and gray but using that for text colors is overboard with the themeing.

[modern night]

huh. I've never tried to get that level of customization with my setup, so seeing this is mostly new to me

That makes total sense

[sand lotus]

customization is nice but being forced to do it because it doesn't work out of the box is awful.

[modern night]

woo that's a nice fast build

I think we can hear the dings, but it's not very loud so it's fine on this end

[inner spade]

Really appreciate you sharing the process, @smoky island. Have to go cleanup the gifts and remnants from last night’s windstorm. Will catch the remainder on VOD. Thanks!

[modern night]

going to lurk and do some chores for a bit, I'll be in an out but if I don't catch you when you wrap up, thanks for the stream!

[sand lotus]

on 14 of 16 resolderig them back in, thanks for streaming

[clever summit]

🖖

[open girder]

The Desk of Ladyada - RP2040 Tester bringup & LCD QT revisions https://youtu.be/3gakI1QBvXw

[lilac tusk]

👋

[sand lotus]

it's hacker o'clock

[lilac tusk]

Lady Ada-clock

[shell mason]

hacker clock times

[sand lotus]

lost the stream?

[echo canopy]

Watching on YouTube lost stream as well

[shell mason]

fe lost feed

[echo canopy]

Cuts off with 6:05 time stamp on the bottom right

[turbid hill]

looks like it

oh noes nyc was nuked

[sand lotus]

they might not know the stream died

[echo canopy]

@open girder the stream abruptly stopped at 6:05

[open girder]

yerp

[wind spoke]

Twitch stop at 5:10

[shell mason]

back

twitch side is back

[split gazelle]

Back on YouTube 🤘

[sand lotus]

👍

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[echo canopy]

👍🏻👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿

[turbid hill]

🇨🇦

[wind spoke]

I just watched Tenet, and now I am in a time loop... will watch the VOD.

[rich wing]

Isn't most everything on Arduino "a hack" ? 😉

[shell mason]

🇫🇮

[sand lotus]

nice revision, also cool to see even professionals continue to learn and grow. from a good design to a great design.

[rich wing]

Further proof that Lady Ada is actually a human and not an AI!! 😄

[sand lotus]

i love the great search, thank you 🙂

[split gazelle]

thanks folks!

[shell mason]

great desk of ladyada today even with technical difficulties

[inner spade]

👍👍

[sand lotus]

👍 👀 👍

[haughty quiver]

👍

[tropic oxide]

✋

[sand lotus]

Looks like Anne, Ruiz brothers, and myself will be dealing with a Cat 1-2 hurricane tomorrow. 🌧️

[midnight plinth]

Yay beats

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-moves-spinning-gif-21069446

[haughty quiver]

like, joining forces to fight it? good luck @sand lotus !

[sand lotus]

don't you need a jaeger for that? if you have one we'll take it.

[opaque hearth]

https://media.giphy.com/media/i1z30bOS4nqbC/giphy.gif

[sand lotus]

first product link goes to https://www.adafruit.com/product/5477 which isn't showing a discount...

[haughty quiver]

woops!

[sand lotus]

that's in the blog which is where i usually go

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-joystick-funny-dog-xbox-funny-animals-gif-18411432

[cinder wind]

these parts have a lot of... potential

[sand lotus]

i shot a DM to anne about it

[cinder wind]

Cool demo, JP!

[shell mason]

nice demo JP

[sand lotus]

darn you dynobot.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-deck-steam-valve-thumbsticks-trackpads-gif-22356357

[sand lotus]

are the pinouts breadboard compatible?

from the breakout board?

[shell mason]

some could make one thumbstick for every finger

[sand lotus]

interesting idea for a keyboard

i think someone's done that before

i picked up the max of 10 breakouts and joysticks. great deal!

[tropic oxide]

Thanks JP!

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[sand lotus]

will probably design my next cowbell to use that instead of 5 direction buttons

[cinder wind]

Love the totally non-infringing fanfare music at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aywGBbqJlf0

[sand lotus]

yeah someone put some effort into that, it was good

[shell mason]

nice thumbsticks

[opaque hearth]

👍 👋

[shell mason]

jp eyes look like have sonar sensor inside

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/ozone-breakin-gif-19938257

[haughty quiver]

thanks all, enjoy! 👍

[sand lotus]

@shell mason it's the grid pattern from the breakout board 😉

[haughty quiver]

Yes!

[sand lotus]

i like how every week he's got some neat image with hidden clues that makes no sense and by the end of the video you're like ok... now it makes perfect sense.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/lynx2020ws-gif-26013433

[sand lotus]

😬 whoever wrote that code is probably really bad at coding.

i was desperate to find a way around the svg because i couldn't figure it out. soooo... literally just typed in .json on the end and it worked. like a miracle.

i think even with the json version i ended up using a regex

they all use adafruit_requests, didn't need to modify that library for any reason

oh yeah they're all in the requests library folder derp nvm

lost ya for a second, was thinking maybe you were mistaken and disconnected the webcam instead 😛

[modern night]

Oh you're over here--wasn't 100% sure
Eh I think it's stable enough to not worry about. Every now and then there's always going to be a blip

[sand lotus]

yeah i think it's your network connection because sometimes you start sounding robotic before you lose connection which is generally indicative of a network issue not a PC issue.

can't develop without serial, people will just refresh the stream no worries.

nice workaround

yeah probably a better way to do it in case whatever after the space changes

yeah i'm bad with knowing which appends are possible. that comes with experience which i don't have yet. 😛

i'm still mostly using Mu so don't get any suggestions. :/

[upper sandal]

hoy what's up

[sand lotus]

umm this one doesn't use a real token 😬

it's a logged in user auth

yes it's not the correct way but you need to be a server admin to have a real useful 0auth and i don't have that for the adafruit server

which was kinda the whole point was just to try to get the users online

it's a hacky workaround

i'm not sure if this method is suitable for a library, it's a sketchy workaround, if deems unacceptable i'll completely understand

yes, it's a browser auth front end yep

i know right! it kinda blew my mind. i was like... WHY does this work, it shouldn't work. it shouldn't be this stupid simple to get around.

no those are just examples

you're good 🙂

it's youtube that you really gotta watch out for in their api docs

they're done by admins who have admin access to their own server, anything with 0auth must be explicity approved per server

which was a problem for me in development. i didn't try to do it on a personal server.

so discord is unlike the others (twitter, youtube, github), the discord api i submitted is the only oddity

i needed a way around it and found one 🤷

i ran into that too, was kinda cool, no idea

the dev console you don't want to show your user auth

that doesn't change until browser request a new one (no idea how, maybe login/logout)

or cookies

v9 or v10 are current, v8 and below are deprecated

they have different features and syntax sometimes

"Discord_Adafruit_Channel": "327254708534116352",

that's adafruit channel # is public yeah

was part of developing where i was putting a bunch of stuff in secrets, ended up taking half of it out yeah i could take that out

i should have included urls to all the api docs in a comment

i paste tokens into a password manager, like that's writing it down.

well take the token out and try it, should 401

oh careful with switching some of the full api debug = True as that might show the full url request with your token

oh for youtube i think i ended up only going with channel id and not username. can't remember. think i forgot to take one of those out of secrets as uncessary too 😦

oh nvm the login credentials with comments is the stuff needed. i just forgot to take some stuff out of my personal secrets file whew

results of users with that username

i should have used channel id

if you go to https://www.youtube.com/user/ it'll be whatever username after it

don't know how you get that to show up but that's the one i'm using 🤷

fyi i might lose power, storm winds are picking up

yes matrix panel is next on my todo list. much easier to do than doing it all on 7 segment displays 😉

well if you're used to working with displayio it's easier lol

yeah there's nothing SVG about that one anymore. i just kept the original filename and variable names from my original attempt.

i have no idea what half those calls do, found the twitter example in their api docs, used it and it worked so...

yeah you can get granular with it but i was only going after followers on multiple api's as fast as i could, anything else was irrelevant

thank you ❤️

exactly, there's not enough ram to do more complex API operations. it'll crash your MCU

yup should allow people to hit the ground running 🏃‍♂️

oh the discord result i had to limit to like 1 or 5 results or it absolutely crashed my S2 every time.

awesome

[hard hollow]

Hey folks, just a heads up there will be no 3D hangouts livestream today. We'll be back next week, Nov 16th.

[dry marten]

Thanks for the reminder @hard hollow

[graceful heart]

hello?

[proven crow]

Hi all!

[nova totem]

Good evening everyone

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you most wonderful people!

[tulip canyon]

Howdy everyone

[open surge]

good evening all

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/qkf2ah7sfy

[tulip canyon]

Stay safe @hard hollow @rocky reef 🌀

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 11/9/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/457im3lV1wI

[slow spire]

HI, all!

[proven crow]

❤️

[ionic garnet]

Hi folks

[cinder wind]

Hi Hi!

[verbal river]

@open girder I have some glowy noodles to show. Mouse in streamyard

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[waxen thistle]

Mime is the name, but not an actual Mime: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Mime_(Earth-616)

[proven crow]

Is JP's big secret that he is a mime?

[waxen thistle]

Woah. That's nifty.

[ionic garnet]

really cool @haughty quiver

[proven crow]

MakeCode, right? So cool you can do all that with blocks!

[inner spade]

PyGamer forever!

[waxen thistle]

Thanks JP!

[ionic garnet]

Blinkie

[safe cloak]

what is the psi limit on those $4 solonoids? im looking to use them for a pneumatic robot, but it operates around 20psi

[ionic garnet]

Wow I need this

[waxen thistle]

Scorpio? If the board creates a neural clone to extract the secrets of wormholes.....I won't be surprised.

[nova totem]

so many pixels!

[slow spire]

Which solenoids?

[proven crow]

Possibly a question for #help-with-robotics? Welcome to the server!

[cinder wind]

QTPy RP2040 but not all eight? 🙂 🙂 (MOSI, MISO, RX, SCK are GPIO3,4,5,6 on QTPy RP2040 so yes!)

[nova totem]

This would be great to try with the PaintYourDragon icicle code I ported to CP.

[waxen thistle]

Clocks and floppy discs everywhere.

[proven crow]

💾 for scale

It's the new banana

[slow spire]

Or the new Adafruit quarter.

[sand lotus]

he's got a coleco keyboard? What keyboard doesn't Jepler have is a better question at this point.

[waxen thistle]

Those flowers SO remind me of those lego flowers 🙂

[verbal river]

🍁

[haughty quiver]

that wreath is so adorable!!

love the leaves @split gazelle

[ionic garnet]

cool as always @split gazelle

[sand lotus]

it really does look like the lego flowers. very nice wreath!

[nova totem]

@split gazelle I love that, looks so cool. And maple leafs are perfect - for no reason

[sand lotus]

Liz you're not weird, you're brilliant.

[slow spire]

📯

[safe cloak]

@slow spire i put the url for the solonoid in #help-with-robotics

[sand lotus]

oh audio feedback for distance sensor.. wouldn't that be a theramin then?

[waxen thistle]

yay for using older chips! reduce, reuse, recycle!

Ah, another excellent episode of Show Liz & Tell!

[sand lotus]

Liz says "I'm weird" well you're inspiring a bunch of weirdness then. back to back.

[haughty quiver]

great patch cable action, @verbal river !!

[ionic garnet]

Far out

[haughty quiver]

that's a feature to lop off half the waveform!

[delicate fractal]

That was really disorienting: I was hearing the amber alert from 3 phones, but there's only 2 in the room!!!

[haughty quiver]

The Mutable Instruments Kinks has that wave lopper on it 🙂

[sand lotus]

the more nood synth examples the better, really neat stuff.

[proven crow]

That's a cool hack! I'm a fan

[split gazelle]

@verbal river very cool!

[waxen thistle]

Built in music and light show!

[robust horizon]

lovely breadboarding, BCG

[waxen thistle]

I know, right? Very nice attention to detail.

[slow spire]

Cool; check my response there!

[verbal river]

Thanks!

[proven crow]

I can't imagine ever making mine that neat, kudos to you BCG!

[verbal river]

Thanks!

[haughty quiver]

you got it! yay! @robust horizon

[sand lotus]

neat project bcg!

[tribal vault]

and there are lots of PCB manufacturers that are super newbie-friendly

[alpine nova]

@verbal river that rack was shaking when you sent that signal - i’m just curious cause it was hard to tell, but is that a proto synth ? on my crappy tv it looked like the plates were possibly paper. im hoping im right cause i want to make a cardboard eurorack based on a vcvrack set maybe…

[tribal vault]

HELP BUTTON for your parents to press

[delicate fractal]

Garcon!

[verbal river]

It's a proper bought case (the system outgrew my janky rack & homebrew power supply).

[haughty quiver]

This is an Atari computer keyboard, I can't remember which one

[sand lotus]

this is where bob just said "*** it we're going with this and i'm hungover"

[verbal river]

@alpine nova Pretty sure someone out there has made a cardboard case.

[alpine nova]

i would think so huh

[sand lotus]

that's the atari keyboard???

[split gazelle]

can't go wrong with party parrots

[alpine nova]

i do follow a guy who makes synth modules from tin cans

[proven crow]

HELP ... calling support... dial up sounds

[verbal river]

@alpine nova My module front panels are aluminum or PCB. Cardboard might be too flexible to hold up under use. The decorative filler panels are cardboard.

[delicate fractal]

What model did that connect to? all the ataris I know had it built in

[waxen thistle]

Cue Beatles "Help".....

[sand lotus]

yes Jepler make it play dial up sounds when pressed

[waxen thistle]

Thanks everyone for sharing! Y'all are excellent!

[robust horizon]

@delicate fractal The system was apparently called "XEGS" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_XEGS

[proven crow]

👏 Thanks for a great show all! Cool projects!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks everyone, great projects

[sand lotus]

precursor to duck hunt?

[robust horizon]

awesome pastel buttons -- that's where the other 4 round buttons went

[sand lotus]

interesting, i don't remember that one growing up

[alpine nova]

ah ok, yes you’re absolutely right about cardboard would probably be too flimsy. especially when you’re jammin hard in the zone lol

[sand lotus]

japan only or something?

[robust horizon]

thank you! so nice to "see" everyone!

[sand lotus]

i love your keyboard projects jepler

[robust horizon]

I'm gonna go grab a bite to eat, don't start AaE without me 😉

[nova totem]

@robust horizon was the CP PR for those LEDs pretty recent? Was going to take a look at it out of curiosity on how it works

[delicate fractal]

Neat. "last in the 8-bit family". I guess that means it was after the 400, 800, and XLs

[sand lotus]

lot of dithering going on for LED's recently, good stuff.

[robust horizon]

@nova totem the capabilities in the core have been there for a bit, the library is new and will be in the next bundle release https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_NeoPxl8

this doesn't have all the capabilities of the arduino neopxl8 but it has the basics 🙂

[sand lotus]

ohhh it's PIO, missed that

[robust horizon]

and works with LED animation library if that's your jam

[nova totem]

Awesome thanks. I vaguely recalled seeing it go into the core but couldn't quite recall. I really want to see if I can update an old project for that

[graceful heart]

@split gazelle - We brought the trombone champ controllers, thanks for the inspiration!

[split gazelle]

awesome! that was so cool to see 😺 they seem super responsive

[graceful heart]

They are! They can get a little jittery when they are far away, but I put a pot on the qtpy version to set a scaling factor, makes the range smaller

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 11/9/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/457im3lV1wI

[split gazelle]

excellent!

[sand lotus]

woah volume way higher than normal

[waxen thistle]

Yum. Jam.

[sand lotus]

was just the song volume that was louder

[turbid hill]

need to make sure the ears are working

[waxen thistle]

Adafruit Freebies! https://www.adafruit.com/free

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: neopixelbff http://www.adafruit.com

[slow spire]

Was there a show and tell last week? I don't see it on YouTube.

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[waxen thistle]

We all win when we participate in a democracy.

[slow spire]

Some companies gave off the rest of the year to vote. /s

[waxen thistle]

Adafruit Adabox: https://www.adabox.com

[didn't get an email -- confirmed I'm still subscribed. 🤷‍♂️ ] But it's good to hear the news! Thanks 🙂

[robust horizon]

@slow spire yes there was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab4ffkWM-JQ

[turbid hill]

letsencrypt

[waxen thistle]

View the latest Python for Microcontrollers Weekly Newsletter here: https://www.adafruitdaily.com/category/circuitpython/

[slow spire]

Cool! Really odd that that's not in the Videos tab on YT. Maybe it's unintentionally "unlisted"?

[waxen thistle]

Adafruit Daily - daily emails on everything DIY/Maker related! https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[dim knot]

What is CircuitPython? https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/what-is-circuitpython

[delicate fractal]

Every time the 'Fruits say "badges" the line "Badges? we don't need no stinkin badges!" plays in my head.

[sand lotus]

wifi workflow also means you don't even need to connect it to USB to edit the code.

[robust horizon]

@open girder you may want to check if last week's show & tell video is supposed to be listed or not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab4ffkWM-JQ

[delicate fractal]

I think YT is just a bit weird about how it updates its indexes. When Show&Tell goes late enough, sometimes when you go to youtube.com/adafruit/live after 8, you get a replay of Show&Tell, not the real livestream.

[dim knot]

Adafruit Gift Certificates https://www.adafruit.com/product/3331

[slow spire]

Yeah, but this particular episode is a week old.

[sand lotus]

@delicate fractal yeah if you don't stop the stream after show & tell YT will automatically play the next video, can't tell you how many times i thought i was watching the live stream when i was watching an archived stream. i've learned to always look at the date of the stream you're watching.

[robust horizon]

fwiw I found the video link by just looking at older links in #live-broadcast-announce

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for the details!

[robust horizon]

complex scripts like arabic that require shaping are NOT in circuitpython

[waxen thistle]

This is a great segment for chip constraints in general -- for today. tomorrow, it might change. again 🙂

Adafruit Learn System - latest guides: https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[delicate fractal]

It comes up for me! Someone just needs to sacrifice a chicken to The Algorithm or something.

[slow spire]

I don't see it here:
https://www.youtube.com/c/adafruit/videos

[robust horizon]

now I'm imagining a literary weather forecast ... "it was a dark and stormy night"

[verbal river]

Click on the "LIVE" tab. Looks like youtube moved the archived streams there.

[vale ridge]

the youtube UI definitely looks different, they probably started changing things around again

[verbal river]

Yeah, you have to make your website worse every year or so, it's a rule.

[slow spire]

Well that explains it! 🤦‍♂️

[delicate fractal]

they pushed out some updates this week. I don't like it: things that used to be obvious buttons now just look like text...

[sand lotus]

yeah i noticed there's been a change in the way latest videos is shown in YT. it's weird and i don't like it.

[waxen thistle]

By th’ clock ʼtis day,
And yet dark night strangles the travelling lamp.

~Macbeth.

[sand lotus]

like i couldn't find a video i was looking for. instead of being in latest videos it was in a playlist. didn't actually show up in latest videos and i was like... this makes no sense.

JP's ouija board project is amazing. so many pieces, so creepy, it's perfect.

[slow spire]

I love this

[robust horizon]

JP pretends it's the phone moving the pointer but he's actually using the power of ESP

[slow spire]

Hi, Captain Howdy!

[verbal river]

🐮 💻

[robust horizon]

projects like that just give me joy

whimsical but with a great useful idea at the core

[tribal vault]

"wubbalubbadubdub" nice

[sand lotus]

great localhost project Liz. that was actually the first thing i tried doing with my first esp board. great project for the beginning of a localhost datalogging panel... like your own personal adafruitIO dashboard hosted locally.

i'm definitely going to revisit that soon using that guide

also, gives people a local alternative if they have too many datapoints and don't want to pay for adafruitIO plus... will also help their servers by shifting some of it to users locally hosting.

[proven crow]

Q for the show: How do you recommend people get small batches (like 30 at a time) of their PCBs assembled? Manual assembly is out of the question for me with ~30 0402s and lots of different components to keep track of (it takes several hours per board). All of the options I've looked into are either poorly documented and slow/low quality, or "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" kind of things. Looking for reasonable prices & decent quality but willing to bite the bullet on either if that's all I've got. Thanks so much for your work in the OSHW and OSS communities.

[slow spire]

@open girder

[sand lotus]

lipo monitor still has an issue on the S3 though

but there's a workaround published on github for the issue which does work 🙂

love watching stuff from the ruiz brothers where everything fits perfectly, ugh i need a 3D printer. they're so cool.

[robust horizon]

an 89.5°F pool sounds pretty good .. weather's about to take a turn for the cold here tonight.

[vale ridge]

they are so affordable compared to how expensive they were even 5 years ago

[tribal vault]

3D printers are awesome. Just be prepared for a lot of trial and error as you learn how to use it

[sand lotus]

still have the ender pro lady ada recommended sitting in my digikey cart, it's an expensive purchase though.

[robust horizon]

first, get a friend with a 3d printer. they'll help you through the learning curve.

[turbid hill]

I picked up the Prusa i3 MK3S+ kit, took me two days to assemble but boy it works well

[sand lotus]

there's a 3d printing help topic here too which i'm sure i'll need

[proven crow]

And we're all here in #help-with-3dprinting if you need help!

[tribal vault]

Or be my friends and just say "Hey, can you 3D print this thing for me"

[echo canopy]

QUESTION It appears the DS Temperature no-code WhipperSnapper runs continuously—- will there be a way to “deep sleep” in WS?

[waxen thistle]

And it helps to get a "popular" 3D printer -- because the online community will help when you hit the inevitable glitch/issue/hot dish of plastic spaghetti.

[sand lotus]

Can the NRF9160 be a replacement for the phona projects?

yeah if my sister learns i have a 3d printer she's gonna hound me to print stuff for her. already know it.

[tribal vault]

great for printing toys for kids tho if you have any in your life. My niece/nephew are enjoying the fact that I have a 3D printer for sure

[slow spire]

Totally. One's first 3D printer should probably be an inexpensive popular one that has a healthy, active, online community, and readily available parts.

[sand lotus]

i'm more interested in enclosure design, industrial design. the toys are nice but they always just end up sitting on a shelf. so do enclosures though lol.

[proven crow]

Ender 3 pro is a great choice for that exact reason. Is that the one you have picked out @sand lotus?

[sand lotus]

i think so, yeah i think it was recommended because it will do the wood pla. the regular ender plus or whatever doesn't do wood.

and i loved the wood stuff the ruiz brothers were doing at the time

[waxen thistle]

But not so inexpensive where one's first dozen+ prints are to rectify inherent deficiencies of the printer.

[proven crow]

If you want to use wood filament, make sure to upgrade the nozzle! that stuff will wear down a standard brass nozzle, and an upgrade is super easy and cheap.

[sand lotus]

is the NRF SDK in C or python?

[robust horizon]

@sand lotus C

someone would have to port circuitpython/micropython to it, otherwise you're in C/C++ land

[slow spire]

I have a bunch of wood PLA I have yet to use. It can be challenging.

Yeah, I'll probably wait to print wood PLA, marble PLA, etc, until I install at least a 0.6mm hardened steel nozzle.

[proven crow]

I have some of this stuff: https://www.matterhackers.com/store/l/matterhackers-quantum-pla/sk/MS2XWRUN
Worth its weight in platinum for sculptures and display pieces

That's one heck of a devkit!

[sand lotus]

There's a red thingy headed towards the green thingy, i think we're the green thingy.

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-quest-guy-fleegman-gif-11731203

[slow spire]

Oooh I love coextrusion filaments!

[sand lotus]

they're tracking pizza deliveries now? 😛

[verbal river]

smart pizza boxes, straight out of Snowcrash

[slow spire]

https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Pizza_box

[robust horizon]

hahaha OK that was funny

[sand lotus]

lol nice joke

[waxen thistle]

Adafruit New Products: https://www.adafruit.com/new

https://www.adafruit.com/product/1480

[robust horizon]

so legible

[sand lotus]

looks like no parallel mode on this ILI, goodbye parallel.

[waxen thistle]

All the silkscreen that's fit to print!

[sand lotus]

yeah the new silkscreens are nice and bold

I love my 3.5" tft featherwing display. Just plug the feather right into the back. Are we going to see featherwing versions of these new displays?

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5636
https://www.adafruit.com/product/5643
https://www.adafruit.com/product/5635

[sand lotus]

i do like the additional spi storage instead of needing to go find a tiny sd card online.

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5645

[sand lotus]

ohh that will be a nice revision to replace the big perfboard in my dragon skull mask too

i'm using it with a QT Py BFF that is a little battery adapter board so the QT Py can be powered via battery.

[noble grove]

QUESTION: Do the neopixels on the 5x6 Ortho Snap-Apart work at 3.3V?

[echo canopy]

Question for the show @open girder You sell the OpenMV Cam, can I convince you to make a “hat” for the board that would allow you to connect an Adafruit board like an ESP32-S2 QtPY for some WiFi connectivity notifications maybe to Adafruit IO or WhipperSnapper …. Could be a “no code” project for “person detection” Seems like it could be done with routing the I2C lines / power etc but in an Adafruit way with some NeoPixels ?

[sand lotus]

Is there a name for the add on boards for the QT Py? because i think that one is the 2nd one for the QT Py.

[upper sandal]

you mean BFF ?

[noble grove]

Fanny pack?

[sand lotus]

can we call them bloops? so we've got bells and bloops. next just need addons named bleeps.

[proven crow]

I think they're already called BFFs, but that could mean Bloops For Fun

[sand lotus]

panel mounted feather tft, very nice!

[vale ridge]

Silly Question: Is it possible to stack the QTPy + LiPoly Charger BFF + NeoPixel Driver BFF and have NeoPixels + QTPy to powered via a battery?

[proven crow]

I'd imagine so, nothing jumps out to me as a problem with that. just make sure you have a big enough battery

[sand lotus]

yeah it's doable but i'd probably use stacking headers for that and then use male pins to plug in the neopixel BFF on the top

https://www.adafruit.com/product/2830

[proven crow]

Thanks for that answer Ladyada!

[upper sandal]

time is bendable !

reality is collapsing !

[waxen thistle]

It's a little twitchy on twitch.

[nova totem]

Audio is fine, video is at a couple FPS on YT

[waxen thistle]

audio is fine though

[vale ridge]

twitchy on youtube

[turbid hill]

it is choppy for me

[robust horizon]

yeah it's a bit weird on youtube

[vale ridge]

audio is fine on youtube

[sand lotus]

yeah it's choppy, audio is fine

[open surge]

Video is choppy, audio is fine

[mystic fractal]

yep it's skipping

[noble grove]

Choppy here in Toronto

[sand lotus]

lol jinx

[turbid hill]

audio is fine

[robust horizon]

play them out, keyboard cat

[sand lotus]

some kind of video only buffering issue

[delicate fractal]

ditto. Audio is perfect.

[slow spire]

Low disk space?

[drowsy inlet]

lol

[verbal river]

You're gonna have to sweep up all the dropped frames later. 🧹

[proven crow]

🤖

[waxen thistle]

camera overheating?

[echo canopy]

@open girder

[nova totem]

i almost spit my water on my keyboard with the robot dance

[sand lotus]

can still hear you just fine so keep going

[noble grove]

@delicate fractal same

[slow spire]

Adamax Headroom

[turbid hill]

internet gremlins

[sand lotus]

as long as you don't have to do more product demos then video isn't as important as the audio

since it's question time

[slow spire]

Try turning it off and back on again?

[waxen thistle]

Please stand by. ⚠️

[sand lotus]

hey kids, stop all the downloading, help computer

[noble grove]

Buffering

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/gi-joe-psa-download-piracy-gif-9222249

[noble grove]

YAY

[drowsy inlet]

where's that help button when you need it?

[proven crow]

try downloading more internet?

[waxen thistle]

audio is back

[nova totem]

Looked better

[turbid hill]

that's ok just printing a dinosaur

[waxen thistle]

Looks much better 🙂

[slow spire]

Ooooh now it's 240Hz. Smoooooth.

[turbid hill]

@open girder It's letsencrypt you are wanting for free SSL certs

[sand lotus]

time to update

[solemn cosmos]

Halloween costume. A little late

[sand lotus]

OMG

[waxen thistle]

CONGRATS!!!!!! 👶

[nova totem]

Congrats!!!

[drowsy inlet]

whoa congrats!

[delicate fractal]

Gratz!!!!

[sand lotus]

No, shut up!

[robust horizon]

Congratulations to you both all three

[split gazelle]

🎉🎉🎉

[vale ridge]

CONGRATS

[noble grove]

Congrats

[urban gale]

oh wow! Congratulations!

[slow spire]

WOWWWWWW!

[sand lotus]

HOLY F**** YES!!!!!

[tribal vault]

yoooo congrats

[inner spade]

Congratulations!

[slow spire]

Congratulations; I'm getting weepy.

[sand lotus]

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

[digital crescent]

congrats! I'm doing the same.

[echo canopy]

Awwwww

[graceful heart]

congratulations!

[proven crow]

!!! Congrats!

[digital crescent]

when is the due date?

[full jasper]

congrats, take the time, you won't be sleeping well once you have it.

[turbid hill]

Going to come out with a soldering iron ready

[upbeat coral]

OH WOW A BABY ADA! Congratulatoins.

[delicate fractal]

mazel tov!

[echo canopy]

Congratulations 🎊

[alpine nova]

congrats you three!!!

[drowsy inlet]

need to add a new segment - SLEEP SHORTAGE!

[waxen thistle]

This will be a great upcoming show & tell!

[sand lotus]

Should have done this during top secret because I had NO clue holy cow.

[lyric frost]

Congrats!!!! Lady Ada....

[sand lotus]

this is the most top secret project released on adafruit so far

[mellow thunder]

WOW! Congrats!

[noble grove]

Gravid revisions

[delicate fractal]

I'd offer baby gear and clothes, but I dont' think it's worth shipping from Toronto to New York

[sand lotus]

❤️ amazing new

new new new 🆕

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[slow spire]

👶

[digital crescent]

When we went in for our ultrasound, I was told that a dr took the ultrasound 3d mapping and 3d printed a fetus for a blind patient to feel.

[sand lotus]

is this for real? mind blown 🤯

[noble grove]

AdaSeed

AdaSprout

[verbal river]

BabyAda

[delicate fractal]

ada-babe-a

[proven crow]

Thanks all for a great show, and congrats to the soon-to-be parents!

[upbeat coral]

Man, talk about a "New Product Introduction"

[sand lotus]

well if it's Mr and Mrs Ada then it's gonna be Baby Ada

[full jasper]

What way to end the show, leave the best for last.

[slow spire]

And here we go crowdsourcing names again. 😄

[delicate fractal]

it could be Prince (or Princess) Ada

[slow spire]

Viscount.

[delicate fractal]

Le Dauphin Ada

[noble grove]

But it's Lady Ada and Mr Lady Ada, so Baby Lady Ada

[sand lotus]

yeah 1 week, do you guys have a name yet like you just did a mic drop and bolted. i'm shook. this is so wonderful.

[waxen thistle]

That child is going to be so lucky. You couldn't have two more loving people who nurture creativity, thoughtfulness, and empathy.

[proven crow]

That kid's gonna be smarter than all of us and possibly take over the world (in a good way)

[sand lotus]

that kids first words are gonna be MIT

[solemn cosmos]

Congrats and good luck. My 9 y/o project is still a work in progress. She was totally stoked to be Adabot this year along with her friend that was lady Lovelace

[delicate fractal]

I dunno if this is a universal Jewish thing or not, but in my extended family, revealing the child's name before it's born is very bad luck.

[sand lotus]

ah ok

never heard of that

feel bad for asking now

[slow spire]

Apparently, gender reveals have been bad luck for a lot of folks, too.

[delicate fractal]

nonono. Don't feel bad for asking. Its not something I would be insulted by, and doubt she would either.

[noble grove]

You mean like setting things on fire...

[sand lotus]

yeah i heard about that one in california that started a fire lol

[delicate fractal]

lol, but also cry
Haha, only miserable

[noble grove]

Newborns and fireworks don't mix

[delicate fractal]

anyhow, g'night all!

[slow spire]

I'm thinking balloons.

[sand lotus]

darn, Nicole headed straight for me now.

[slow spire]

Some things are flowing better. Still, some popular things on Digi-Key, Mouser, and elsewhere, have estimated availability going out to 2024 in some cases. For the prototypes I build, my current tactic is to adapt to what's available now or in the short term. This parts shortage will be with us for a couple years, but I'm not letting that block my progress. (Pardon the late reply.)

[hot frigate]

Congratulations!!!!! Just watched the last of the show. Wowsers!!! @open girder Good luck in the next few weeks. It's going to be a lot of fun. 🙂 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

AHH congrats!!! aww that announcement gave me all the warm feels 🤗

[wind spoke]

Congratulation for a BabyAda. (sorry, watching the VOD)

PS: For the last few months, once in a while while watching stream I was thinking... Ok Scott has a baby, wouldn't that be great for LadyAda to have a baby. I was wondering "Why do I think about that, it's not my business." (maybe I felt something?). And then those are not things you discuss because some couple don't want a baby, some cannot have a baby, you just don't. And I was considering how Adafruit is doing a lot for education and every other kids. Anyway... I am super happy.

[inner spade]

👋🎮

[lavish patrol]

Hello, good people.

[clever summit]

Good Evening mr. Callaway.

Also JP.

And for the rest of you, the traditional 🇸🇪 👋

[lavish patrol]

Καλή μέρα, @clever summit 😉

[haughty quiver]

hiaya!

[clever summit]

Oh, greek, Fancy!

[lavish patrol]

I had some Greek yoghurt earlier, so I'm in a Helenistic mood...

Lars has been at it again...

[clever summit]

I am testing out my new status lights. Top left LED indicates JP is streaming!

[lavish patrol]

Sounds fine here.

[inner spade]

Audio is okay

[cinder wind]

status light? status light?

[clever summit]

The lower green LED's indicates my windows flowers do not need to be watered,

[cinder wind]

StemmaBB

[inner spade]

Exciting. They will be excellent parental units.

[clever summit]

I am an engineer so I can be a stand-in.

[echo canopy]

Will you still do Product Pick of the week on Tuesday?

[lavish patrol]

I'm normally in bed by then. 😕

[shell mason]

lars day

[lavish patrol]

Canable - A cable from Canada.

[clever summit]

I thought it was canucable.

[lavish patrol]

Buffering...

[clever summit]

Back

[echo canopy]

Also buffering

Seems to be okay now

[solemn cosmos]

woops

[lavish patrol]

Normal service has been restored.

[solemn cosmos]

no no buffering

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-star-trek-tos-spock-scanning-gif-16656866

when you didnt had virtual effects so much

some could use thumbsticks for scanning device

[cinder wind]

Here's a quickie "Fake CircuitPython Parsec":
Use the keypad library to debounce a single button (like the push of a rotary encoder)!
Normally you need to some sort of a key debouncer to give you pressed and released events for a button. Even for the button of a rotary encoder! You can use the built-in keypad module with a single button (normally it's used for key matrices) . Here's an example

import rotaryio, keypad
encoderA_pin, encoderB_pin, encoderSW_pin = board.GP18, board.GP19, board.GP22  # RasPi Pico
my_encoder = rotaryio.IncrementalEncoder(encoderA_pin, encoderB_pin)
my_encoder_switch = keypad.Keys((encoderSW_pin,), value_when_pressed=False, pull=True)
while True:
  switch_event = my_encoder_switch.events.get()
  if switch_event and switch_event.pressed:
    print("encoder pressed!")

The trick is to pass in the pin as a list to keypad.Keys() (e.g. like (encocderSW_pin,))

[grand tusk]

Ah, Toshiba.

[solemn cosmos]

Is it me or is it stuttering on that splash screen?

[cinder wind]

svideo looks nicer yeah

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-mega-drive-genesis-sega-loop-gif-23327915

https://tenor.com/view/clippy-office95-vintage-really-gif-16902290

[fossil musk]

Ladyada, Mr. Ladyada & Babyada!

[cinder wind]

wait wait, go back a bit. what's a pixel

[shell mason]

there parallax somehow remind me that one parallax from green lantern

[cinder wind]

ahh the internet tells me "pixel" stands for "pico de jello"

[knotty valley]

Just got in!!!

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @haughty quiver

[solemn cosmos]

bye!

[cinder wind]

Thanks @haughty quiver! Neat seeing MakeCode & TVs!

[lavish patrol]

Bye. 👋

[cinder wind]

Congrats @proper trench & @frail trail on your upcoming StemmaBB!

[clever summit]

Thanks JP! Nice one.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-prime-sonic-netflix-netflix-sega-gif-25579177

[inner spade]

Looking forward to the evening workshop. Screwdrivers, software, and sunsets.

[haughty quiver]

you got it!

thanks all so much

[shell mason]

great stream

[dusk socket]

thank you JP I like the new stuff

[modern night]

Hello all, hope everyone's friday is going well

youtube does look smaller than the discord text size, but I don't know if it is normally that sized

[grand tusk]

Good day for raking leaves.

[modern night]

That's more readable, the bottom row is slightly out of frame but it should be fine as far as I can tell

[inner spade]

The YouTube stream hasn’t started yet. Is it just me?

Twitch is okay

[grand tusk]

Still waiting on YT.

Now live. Hello!

[proper prawn]

Hi Tim and everyone present.

[brazen chasm]

Hello guys. F1 is over. Friday coding night is here

[proper prawn]

My latest 'toy'. Pimoroni's Galactic Unicorn

[inner spade]

Would like to be able to slice a displayio.Group like display_group[5:-1].hidden= True

[modern night]

interesting, that would need to use the __iter__ dunder to do that right?

[inner spade]

Probably. Not supported today.

Would support moving ulab narray attributes into .color attributes, too.

Or x y positions — much faster

[upper sandal]

hi

[modern night]

remembering to add a branch for the code I'm working on is a thing I forget to do so often 😅

[inner spade]

Looks like it needs get_item(), set_item() , del_item() dunders , and slice() function. Think that slice() handles the iteration.

[modern night]

Huh.
I thought it would need __len__(), __getitem__(), __iter__(), __next__().
__set_item__() and __del_item__() weren't functions I thought it'd use

[sand lotus]

👋

[noble grove]

If you hide the parent, are all the children hidden?

[sand lotus]

i got all the requests you had for the pr done and committed.

[noble grove]

And then, if it was, then do you want to prohibit unhiding the shape?

[sand lotus]

good timing to look at code with parent/child inheritance 😛

[inner spade]

From reading the lang ref: The slice([start,] stop [, step]) function creates a ‘slice’ object. Will need to get off this annoying iPad and try some stuff.

[noble grove]

Chestertons fence

[modern night]

Interesting. Good to know too! a year ago I wrote a 'list' like object that would let me create an list for a large database that doesn't fit in my computers ram, but it wouldn't load it into memory until I needed a given item. The database was lots of files and would walk through them and yield the packet if it was within the slicing range, and skip it if it wasn't within the range. But it didn't need to delete anything with __pop__() or __del__() so I never looked into __del_item__(), which could be why I didn't think of it at all

[inner spade]

Ah. Kind of a moot point since displayio.Group is written in C — I have enough trouble going into dunder-land in Python.

[modern night]

haha good point. Jumping into that C layer is something that always confuses me, and streams like this are so nice as they help highlight the code that manages the jump between cpython standards and just plain c

[sand lotus]

i imagine functions are always true by default, probably how they get returned automatically, makes sense

i know adafruit learn guide has a bit on lamda function they call the function with no name 😛

[main flame]

:1 in a C definition is the width of the field: only one bit

[inner spade]

Thanks for the stream. The hidden capability was the single roadblock to converting some widgets to vectorio.

[brazen chasm]

Very interesting tonight, thanks!

[sand lotus]

thank you for being an amazing coder and livestreaming your efforts.

[modern night]

Thanks for the stream! This was delightful! Cheers and have a good weekend all!

[proper prawn]

Thanks again Tim! Have a nice weekend y'all

[smoky island]

Getting started a few minutes early this morning. Trying out some improvements to led animation library. Follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOFkc8W6_cY or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[clever summit]

Hey Tim

Five in the afternoon actually.

[inner spade]

👋

[clever summit]

You need sudo when installing

[proper prawn]

Hi Tim, CGrover, Jonny

[brazen chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/sweden-flag-swedish-flag-swedish-sweden-flag-gif-25731981

🖖

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[brazen chasm]

its already dark here

[proper prawn]

At the location of my son, Goshen, KY was already snow this morning

[inner spade]

Do a frame of 1000 animation cycles and / 1000

[brazen chasm]

record temps for november here, thanks global warming 😦

[inner spade]

Then just print after each frame

Is that the “tail” that’s left glowing on the strip?

[grand tusk]

Hey there!

Maybe you could get the elapsed time for each animation cycle using https://docs.circuitpython.org/projects/led-animation/en/latest/api.html#adafruit_led_animation.sequence.AnimationSequence.on_cycle_complete

Called by some animations when they complete an animation cycle. Animations that support cycle complete notifications will have X property set to False. Override as needed.

So you would only print at the end of a complete cycle.

[clever summit]

Some thing is better measured by an oscilloscope! 🙂

Old trick for debugging code for MCU's without an UART. Toggle some unused pins.

There are cheap handheld oscillioscopes on AliExpress.

Can be a good intro to the world of oscilloscopes, and often all you really need.

OK, gotta go. Moderating a YT stream.

Have fun!

[sand lotus]

good morning ☕

started on getting the matrix panel running some api examples last night. running into hard fault handler crashes on the feather s3.

yup rgb matrix featherwing

works great on s2 and s3 without wifi, trying to add wifi into it for some reason crashes it. same issue i was having on the UM feather S3.

S2 & S3 is definitely making progress for stability, at least i can run it without crashing now due to hard reset bug, that was a doozy. core devs are getting there little at a time. S2 super stable now. that's freed them up to work on the C3 and S3.

yeah like cgrover finding that bug that affected like 30 boards because no one really worked with vectorio until he played around with it.

which really begs the question does it really need to be a built in library if no one notices it's broken after 6 months...

something to do with display shapes and fps dropped to almost zero.

i've still never used vectorio, a guide on that would help a lot. most of my intro's to stuff has been learn guides.

can't imagine circuit python without displayio

there's only so much you can do without a display and it will feel industrial probably, like arduino, display capability oddly enough is really where arduino and CP start separating in my opinion.

I've been impressed with the gains todbot's been able to get out of ulab and numpy with neopixels.

oh i started with my weatherstation project like 2 years ago with arduino. then ported it to circuit python, world of difference. for any project with a display that doesn't involve hdmi i'm reaching for circuit python hands down.

[proper prawn]

Thank you again Tim. All have a fine weekend.

[sand lotus]

led animations for the core i'm always for. there will always be people playing with neopixels no matter which board it is.

Thank you foamguy for the stream.

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[modern night]

Thanks for the stream! Caught the tail end but that's what the Vod is for! Have a good one all!

[grand tusk]

Thanks!

[inner spade]

It was related to backlight pwm impacting display content refresh. Happened after auto brightness was removed in early versions of 8.0.x. Don’t know if there was a long term fix although the immediate, limited fix seemed to work. The issue is still open. https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_Display_Shapes/issues/57

[inner spade]

Update: Just tested it with beta.4 and am pleased to report that both the object drawing issue and the Titano display brightness issues were resolved! Time to close that original issue.

[sand lotus]

Early Monday stream

[inner spade]

👋

[sand lotus]

Why so many individual imports? There’s got to be a better way.

So it’s up to you to combine them if you want a switch to run them all. Just saying that’s a lot of imports. It makes sense tho.

[inner spade]

Could use an __ init __.py perhaps, but that increases memory usage, too.

[sand lotus]

Yeah S2 has kinda spoiled me. Haven’t thought of running out of ram for a while.

[inner spade]

The grid map tuple patterns look like list slices.

The vertical tuples are slices, too, with a different marching increment.

Yes

Used it in the thermal camera a bunch

Going to create an issue to fully flesh out slice objects for displayio groups and palette lists

Want to use ulab to update palettes and group objects properties via slicing

Can’t do ([0:7]) ?

Thanks for the stream. Helps get the brain juices flowing.

[charred lion]

Hello?

[haughty quiver]

Hi?

Hi!

[open surge]

hello!

[haughty quiver]

Hello!

👋

[charred lion]

Hello

[haughty quiver]

Hi

[grand tusk]

Hi.

[haughty quiver]

Hello.

[dry marten]

Hello

[opaque hearth]

Hiya!

[haughty quiver]

Hiya

[viscid bolt]

Good afternoon

[haughty quiver]

Greetings

[cinder wind]

boots-n-cats-n-boots-n-cats-n-boots-n-cats-n-boots-n-cats-n

[dry marten]

Good afternoon

[inner spade]

👋

[sand lotus]

👋

[cinder wind]

I prefer to pronounce it "pic-owb-ell"

[charred lion]

Cute...

[cinder wind]

nice demo, @haughty quiver !

[wind spoke]

I think @clear matrix said she was working on the guide, but has a lot of picture for the various way to solder it.

[cinder wind]

also short header sockets and header pins are becoming my favorite (tho I still use the taller stacking headers a lot) https://www.adafruit.com/product/3008

[sand lotus]

picked up 10, make sure to pickup the pico stacking headers too since feather headers are incompatible. pico's are 20pin on each side.

[lyric frost]

So how are the QWIC pins changed from 4/5?

[drowsy inlet]

which headers is jp using for the demo?

does it matter or is it just a difference of clearance?

[sand lotus]

i started designing a board that has a gnd rail because with LED projects you always need to gang them together but there's only 1 gnd pin. this board definitely solves that issue for the pico.

specifically on the Qt Py tho

[verbal river]

now I'm wondering what there is in my code that should be called "butt_group"

[cinder wind]

I believe you cannot change it. It's the default for arduino-core. Otherwise cut traces

[verbal river]

"ladyada is busy right now" - no kidding!

[sand lotus]

are the downloads on the page? i could look that up quickly.

[drowsy inlet]

thank you jp!

[wind spoke]

Maybe check the learn system, I guess the guide is a work in progress.