the base is the clock hands
#live-broadcast-chat
urban gale
That project would look nice even w/o the glow effect
wise iris
metal-look filaments could be good too
shell mason
the royal artifacts was kinda cool and it was timing when i saw this wase was nice timing
ionic crag
no urainium glass is non-radioactive... reasonably safe... but should be checked if old (not safe for food as it will leach)
rocky reef
Potion of Time - Mythic Potions By Ars Moriendi 3D
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5502353
lavish patrol
Uranium glass:
ionic crag
Uranium glass:
that is when it is illuminated by UV light... it doesn't glow by it self
lavish patrol
that is when it is illuminated by UV light... it doesn't glow by it self
Yep.
rocky reef
shell mason
there is glowing liquid instructions
rocky reef
https://www.printables.com/model/7209-led-skull-lantern/comments/387002 led skull lantern
ionic crag
mewmew 
? 
clever summit
Might be time for a special episode with only functional prints?
ionic crag
at her desk
lavish patrol
Another great Hangout, guys. 👍
ionic crag
300.... 400... how many ever it takes
unreal bay
Good work, congrats 👏
wise iris
thanks guys!
viral sail
Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow . See you all tonight.
hard hollow
thanks folks! cya tonight on S&T
urban gale
great show guys
open surge
thanks and good show!
drowsy inlet
thx!
rocky reef
thanks so much for hanging out folks!
split gazelle
great show guys!
shell mason
great show
open girder
Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/tippwgbf8k
SHOW and TELL 9/21/2022 https://youtu.be/pQlk4CygWi8
viral sail
Good evening everyone.
open surge
good evening 👋
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
sand lotus
👋
nova totem
Evening everyone!
sand lotus
speaking of photogenic, did you see jay on the cover of that magazine. sleeeeek.
cinder wind
CirPy PiCOWireless?!?!?
sand lotus
The PI COW is here
cinder wind
thank you @robust horizon !
sand lotus
ohhh i love how it's just do ntp, so easy!
nova totem
Great work @robust horizon. I hope people realize just how much work getting this going is
tribal vault
let's goooooo
sand lotus
espressif starting to have some competition now
orchid burrow
oh show and tell? Intriguing. I should set up a show and tell of my project sometime. Neat idea to do S&T.
tribal vault
picow circuitpython niiiice
nova totem
oh show and tell? Intriguing. I should set up a show and tell of my project so...
Definitely show up and show off your project!
smoky island
Hooray, great progress Jeff 📡
sand lotus
yup all you picow people frothing for circuit python now have something to try out
better testers should be called calfs 😛
orchid burrow
I very well may. If nothing else showing how to get the TCA9548A with multiple MPU-6050s was kinda neat. Adding in the Ublox ZED-F9P and ZED-F9R and load cell sensor is just that much more fun. :)
sand lotus
new New nEw moo moo moo
shell mason
yeah wifi bugs what i heard one of the hak5 have reported at least
cinder wind
Jepler brings all the PiCow milkshake to the yard
shell mason
good things jepler
tribal vault
FREE UF2?!
sand lotus
exclusive UF2's on discord. this is why people need to show up in discord.
nova totem
Trumpet WInsock, that takes me back
sand lotus
hypercard ftw
robust horizon
Put your wifi details in the ".env" special file in CIRCUITPY and away you go...
and now I'm hiding and playing video games for the rest of the night, dont @ me
sand lotus
i don't have a picow yet but if i did, I'd be all over that. Thanks @robust horizon I keep hearing people ask about pico w in discord a couple times a week.
flying faders 🛫
shell mason
not yet for faderLars
midnight plinth
elevators for ants?
sand lotus
JP's always got something out of left field
nova totem
Lining up holes when 3d printing is an achievement that sounds much easier then it is
smoky island
Great looking enclosure! Nice job Liz!
shell mason
the liz build could have legos so could be interesting
cinder wind
my basement water sensor is an Arduino laying on the ground contiuously beeping. When the beeping stops, it means it's covered in water
viral sail
Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.
upbeat coral
Thank you all for sharing your time.
digital crescent
my basement water sensor is an Arduino laying on the ground contiuously beeping....
nova totem
great board <@228322543507865601>
Thanks! There is still some little problem when I hook it up to the PC it goes into bootloader mode every reset, but could be worse 🙂
nova totem
my basement water sensor is an Arduino laying on the ground contiuously beeping....
Sounds like Homer's everything is all right alarm!
split gazelle
Thanks! There is still some little problem when I hook it up to the PC it goes i...
if that's the only issue then that is super amazing for a board like that 😺
cinder wind
Thanks! There is still some little problem when I hook it up to the PC it goes i...
I've had that issue with a few ESP32-S2 boards. If I flashed the board with the UF2 bootloader, then used the CircuitPython UF2, it worked as intended
nova totem
I've had that issue with a few ESP32-S2 boards. If I flashed the board with the ...
Hmm interesting. I had to build my own TinyUF2, flashed that and then built my custom CP to copy over
open girder
ASK AN ENGINEER 9/21/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/cz9DPWV3Mv0
turbid hill
very green video
cinder wind
Hmm interesting. I had to build my own TinyUF2, flashed that and then built my c...
hmm drat
green bison
Question: if a samd09 were available, would it be possible to make our own board featuring the seesaw firmware?
nova totem
hmm drat
Thanks though, that did lead me to just test my old board and it was a very similar problem. So probably more a software or component problem then layout.
waxen thistle
Good evening all you wonderful people!
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turbid hill
The audio is clipping
covert crag
The audio is clipping
fine for me seemingly
turbid hill
was clipping and bit staticy
covert crag
🥧 🐮
turbid hill
seems better now
waxen thistle
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
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Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
cinder wind
but I want to spend three weeks just trying to get an LED to blink
covert crag
but I want to spend three weeks just trying to get an LED to blink
You're just gonna have to spend more time fondling n00ds instead, sorry.
cinder wind
Rename it DadaBox: It's a box.. or is it?
turbid hill
hahaha
urban gale
oh wow
covert crag
hah
open girder
10% discount code, code is: gassensor http://www.adafruit.com
grand tusk
Would 'noseragss' work?
tribal vault
but what about my catchy chip shortage song tho?
covert crag
A whole new world! Some chips are finally back in stock! The ship times slipped a lot, then it got hot, but now some things have actually shown up!
cinder wind
turns on synth "time to make the dubstep chip shortage remix I guess"
waxen thistle
View the latest Python for Microcontrollers Weekly Newsletter here: https://www.adafruitdaily.com/category/circuitpython/
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tribal vault
ohhh that's a cool orb
covert crag
waxen thistle
Very nice orb!
Adafruit Learn System - latest guides: https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest
covert crag
Ooh, just imagining some kind of sport/game using it as a ball maybe with that programmable RFID board inside it
covert crag
and there was me just using the colours + text on the display on my Feather TFT to display CO2 levels 😉
tribal vault
but why not comic sans?
grand tusk
This is not Helvetica.
cinder wind
Helvyrus
waxen thistle
Helvyrus Sans
covert crag
Local based? IoT based? you have choices!
Funnily enough I actually made a settings.py file that allows you to do it locally, with added HomeKit, and/or IO, though now I may be wondering about adding a canary/flag...
shell mason
that work with OTF
open girder
@shell mason yep
waxen thistle
nice.
open girder
or at least, we did a live demo on desk of ladyada with a star wars font
waxen thistle
ligatures for the win.
shell mason
the aurebesh font worked
covert crag
I think "the vector is a lie!" was part of an earlier more typography focused version of Portal
vale ridge
Futura ftw
sand lotus
Someone said Roland 808 🐿️
cinder wind
ahh OrCAD
nova totem
I literally used the Funhouse schematic/pcb layout in eagle to help guide me learning to develop my own board in KiCad. It did not matter at all which it was in
covert crag
okay this is trippy
sand lotus
I can take any Adafruit bird, such, or step and convert it to easyeda Just making those files available is enough to make awesome things happen.
cinder wind
whoa adafruit's got an automated donut dough spreader
grand tusk
The robot is laughing.
waxen thistle
DIY Krispy Kreme
jovial estuary
solder paste machine sounds like Sith technology
grand tusk
Bird falls over when the CI build fails.
sand lotus
Can use free fusion 360 to convert step to obj.. use an online converter from obj to wrl and easy eda will work with it np.. I tried eagle, didn’t like it. I love easyeda.
urban gale
Bird falls over when the CI build fails.
you could totally trigger a bird for when a server job fails
sand lotus
There are elitist gate keeping snobs in any industry who try to crap on the tools that work for you just because they have a different preference. If it works and you’re happy with ignore the peanut gallery.
covert crag
green bison
What does NPI stand for?
waxen thistle
New Product Introduction
green bison
Ah ok thanks
covert crag
So much green
Niice, energy harvesting. I've been interested in this for a while too.
..smoke alarms need canaries is what I'm getting here
waxen thistle
So many items don't have failure notification -- and it's something that should be included in the design, along with security.
jovial estuary
piezoelectric spark igniters?
waxen thistle
Case in point -- many IoT security cameras. You get movement notifications, but very few have "this device is offline" notification.
nova totem
Makes me wonder if you could generate enough wind energy with a weather station to provide power for when solar isn't
covert crag
Awww that's such a cute teeny solar board
sand lotus
kattni looking at that thing like ugh great another type of reed switch 😁
turbid hill
you mean 5 ports not 7
cinder wind
two on the side
dim knot
Adafruit Qwiic / Stemma QT 5 Port Hub https://www.adafruit.com/product/5625
sand lotus
need it with 8 so can make an octopus, octostemma
covert crag
need it with 8 so can make an octopus, octostemma
Just buy two of them 😉
sand lotus
honestly just having 1 stemma is enough for me. can chain them super easy. stemma is just a blessing.
lilac tusk
New Product Introduction
I would have said “Naturally Predictable Introductions”
dim knot
Assembled Adafruit 0.56" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display - w/ I2C Backpack QT - Yellow https://www.adafruit.com/product/5602
covert crag
Ahhh that's why they're vertical ports
sand lotus
Just buy two of them 😉
well that's a simple solution didn't even think of that 😅
dim knot
Adafruit WCH CH9102F Friend - USB to Serial Converter https://www.adafruit.com/product/5568
gray obsidian
Ok so kicad-text-tool freezes KiCAD… Oh no there's a window
covert crag
cough Bosch
dim knot
Adafruit ENS160 MOX Gas Sensor - Sciosense CCS811 Upgrade - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/5606
gray obsidian
… it's dog slow, doesn't do any lazy loading of the tons of fonts I have I guess
sand lotus
well it does have to translate through PIL, shouldn't be that slow tho
gray obsidian
and it doesn't work. Probably due to KiCAD 6 changes.
vale ridge
not a question, but I just want Phil to know that I'm going to be forcing some friends who lost a wager to watch Hackers.
sand lotus
Q: plz expand on this step switch project you're working on where you're thinking about using the roland font... step switch breakout for 1 switch or more?
gray obsidian
@sand lotus no this one uses FreeType directly. I think I'll probably just rewrite it around the eagle code to try and factor out some of it
covert crag
Dullest tiny question. Should all shop pages have a "No rating available" Google customer reviews overlay on the bottom right? Wondering if it's because I'm in the UK
gray obsidian
On the plus side, it's actually inside the KiCAD GUI, not just a script you run on the board file
mellow arrow
Saying "thank you" for all Adafruit does for CircuitPython 👍🏼 I just finished up a Reflow Soldering Hotplate, all coded in CircuitPython 🤩
Cool!
open surge
Saying "thank you" for all Adafruit does for CircuitPython 👍🏼 I just finished ...
Look for Bradan to be the next guest on The CircuitPython Show too
sand lotus
i saw that tweet, looks very appealing. love how you used the lumos stick for the display too.
nova totem
Look for Bradan to be the next guest on The CircuitPython Show too
spoiler alert!
grand tusk
Make things to make things that make things.
plush jay
s there ANY way to get a Trinket M0 to act as an I2C "slave" with CircuitPython??? I got ten I need to talk to. Don't wanna use C. Teaching some students.
gray obsidian
The logo is fine 😮
plush jay
Yah
nova totem
s there ANY way to get a Trinket M0 to act as an I2C "slave" with CircuitPython?...
There is the i2cperipherial module but not sure if it is built into the M0
sand lotus
code + community but in papyrus, yeah that's gonna happen on my github intro now 😛
plush jay
Okay, no problem, we can do that, thanks LadyAda.
waxen thistle
Thanks @open girder for another excellent evening of shows!
plush jay
THanks @nova totem
open surge
good show, thank you!
nova totem
Okay, no problem, we can do that, thanks LadyAda.
If it doesn't work on the Rp2040 ping me, I wrote it for that but had some limits to my testing
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌘
green bison
Thanks for answering my question!
upper sandal
i2cperipheral is no implemented for the M0 variant (M4 has it) as far as I can see
urban gale
Thanks for another great show!
gray obsidian
Anyone has an idea where I could get DVI male pins? The ones with the twisted ends
upper sandal
not just, not included
turbid hill
now back to printing my dinosaur, we all need a teal colored dinosaur
gray obsidian
Also remember, there are barcode fonts too
gray obsidian
I wonder if a QR-code font could be coded in OTF… is it Turing-complete?
cinder wind
There is the i2cperipherial module but not sure if it is built into the M0
@plush jay yep looks like it's called i2ctarget now https://docs.circuitpython.org/en/latest/shared-bindings/i2ctarget/index.html and only on RP2040- and ESP32-based boards https://docs.circuitpython.org/en/latest/shared-bindings/support_matrix.html?filter=i2ctarget
upper sandal
<@979852995607023716> yep looks like it's called `i2ctarget` now https://docs.ci...
it's supported on SAMD51 too
mellow arrow
i saw that tweet, looks very appealing. love how you used the lumos stick for th...
The LumosStick is the display, buttons, and controller. Only added the SPI to the thermocouple and a simple relay.
covert crag
Anyone has an idea where I could get DVI male pins? The ones with the twisted en...
Digikey?
gray obsidian
Digikey?
I think I spend a few nights browsing their connectors sections already…
Many shapes but not this one
lavish patrol
Greetings, good people. 👋
inner spade
👋
lavish patrol
I think JP's Workshop today will be a little, ah, faded...
open surge
good afternoon
split gazelle
good afternoon folks
tender wolf
Good afternoon all 🖤
haughty quiver
hi there!
lavish patrol
We have Bleeps and Bloops - kinda...
inner spade
New theme music! Cool!
cinder wind
ooo different bloops and beeps, more like boops and beats
lavish patrol
It's the voice of Lars...
split gazelle
amazing
tender wolf
sounded awesome
cinder wind
good beats
clever summit
🇸🇪 👍
lavish patrol
Evening @clever summit 😀
inner spade
It's just replicating, don't worry.
split gazelle
it's just taking some deep breaths
tender wolf
I just picked up a Nuphy Air75 (mac)
cinder wind
as opposed to why we were bursting into flames a few weeks ago
tender wolf
It's pretty great
split gazelle
gherkin!
lavish patrol
Expilerienced?
cinder wind
Nuphy Air75 looks pretty great. is there anything like that but includes a trackpad built-in?
lavish patrol
JP is wired.
sand lotus
Must be all the frute brute
lavish patrol
Lol
cinder wind
"I'm feeding it an exposition and a why position: okay so you're a pixel, you come from a small town in Iowa, but you decided to go to the big city to make it big..."
grand tusk
Exposition, it has to go somewhere.
sand lotus
can you combine a JP coupon with AAE coupon?
lavish patrol
But don't lose the timer...
sand lotus
the stemma expander is a nice idea
what are some use cases for spoke vs daisy chain? does it make a difference in how some things might work?
most of the things i can think of that are stemma compatible are sensors and i don't think it would matter for them.
maybe power draw farther away on a long chain of daisy devices
ohh i have a name for your art project on show & tell... the elefader
cinder wind
JP, can you make the faders move in a Darth-breathing way?
shell mason
welcome to Darth Lars Faders
this also look like elevators
the fader with elevator size of the knob
then you could see the elevators moving
cinder wind
how about: it starts screaming when you turn the knob
lavish patrol
Lol
cinder wind
the worst thing is all these guitar pedal people use standard 9VDC barrel connector, but with polarity reversed! center is negative! arghghg
sand lotus
oh i have one of those heat shrink kits too. They're great. Actually used them recently and saved me from having wires touching the pcb.
adding an encoder to potentiometers is kind of redundant? i honestly can't think of anything other than using it with a display like todbots picostepseq.
inner spade
the worst thing is all these guitar pedal people use standard 9VDC barrel connec...
... for good reason, it turns out. Prevents a shocking noise when accidentally touching a 1/4"TS tip to the power connector's center pin. On a pedal, the exposed pin is just ground and at a potential of 0 volts.
cinder wind
... for good reason, it turns out. Prevents a shocking noise when accidentally t...
argghhghh
shell mason
meganized elevator could be cool
lavish patrol
Mechanised with magnets... 😉
shell mason
yeah mechanical
sand lotus
oh duh you can use it to change the speed... and i've seen how fast those things go. would be terrifying as an elevator at full speed. if elevators were that fast in real life it would act like a drink shaker or paint mixer and people would come out of it like soup and bones. 😛
shell mason
verbal river
phew I just managed to fix a voltage ref I soldered backwards. 
sry I missed all the cool fader stuff
sand lotus
ohh put drum sticks on them and put some symbols at the top, you've got yourself a drummer for your band.
dusk socket
if you had some noods hooked up between the slider I think it would make the noods go a wave like motion
verbal river
Q for @haughty quiver @split gazelle How the heck do I plug in the last Eurorack module?? There's not enough room to reach in to plug in the power cable!
dusk socket
with that fast move could do a sine wave like thing
sand lotus
filament expands as it cures? didn't know that.
if i ever get a 3d printer i'm going to use heat inserts for everything. those things are awesome. no worries about ever stripping out the holes.
verbal river
I got my new module plugged in and I think it's working!
lavish patrol
sand lotus
galactic harmonica champion
shell mason
sand lotus
ohh combine that with ruiz brothers noods latern would look cool
inner spade
galactic harmonica champion
Very motivated to play the blues.
lavish patrol
Lol
shell mason
Andy what would Darth Lars look like?
dusk socket
for now just move in to a top mid bottom
lavish patrol
Andy what would Darth Lars look like?
inner spade
sand lotus
and this is why we had hookup wire kits this week. ran out of red or black again. it happens.
sand lotus
picking up some nice build tips here, nice to see how others build
this is why heat inserts are awesome, no worrying about threading in the filament itself.
inner spade
PaletteFilter helper class test. Green screen transparency mode. Thanks to @haughty quiver for the (slightly disturbing) test photo.
sand lotus
god i love stemma, it makes everything 10x easier.
inner spade
"Darth Vader sleep apnea mask." Classic.
shell mason
Darth lars Faders
lavish patrol
Great workshop once again, @haughty quiver 👍
sand lotus
stemma faders would be a great idea for how much you use them.
verbal river
Thanks!
inner spade
Thanks for letting us in the workshop today, @haughty quiver !
open surge
thanks JP!
sand lotus
ugh i regret not getting some of the faders during jp's pick of the week. 🤦♂️
winter zinc
is that Lars' voice on the song?
sand lotus
even if i didn't get around to a project with them for a year still was a heck of an amazing deal
tender wolf
this song is soo dope!
inner spade
Lovin' the new tune.
haughty quiver
this song is soo dope!
whoa! thanks so much!!! humbled!!
inner spade
Lovin' the new tune.
Reminds me of playing with a crystal radio as a kid.
inner spade
👋
wheat terrace
✌️
inner spade
Sounds great on YT
supple veldt
got here on time (almost) Yay.
brazen grove
guete abig
sand lotus
👋
did you change the font to papyrus? 😛
i also used papyrus for my name on the back of my pcb, it's a thing now, thanks Phil.
brazen grove
just scan your signature, it will be worth fortune one day
inner spade
Would love to see 1)list constructor and 2) make palette objects inherentable
0 for a single color
Graphics test was designed for a PyPortal
You can also replace a range of colors with an other color (paint)
Yes, or red or whatever
Invert will create masks of the non background
Library isn’t in Community Bundle just yet
The class calculates the differential, so picking the center shade might help, but not significantly.
inner spade
If there are no shades of green that you want to preserve, then the target color is relatively not critical.
Try the fill color and invert options for the fun of it.
A touch screen color picker cursor would be a nice enhancement.
clear matrix
i also used papyrus for my name on the back of my pcb, it's a thing now, thanks ...
I have a few breakouts in the shop that I designed, and they have my name on them. I wrote that out, converted it to a bitmap, and it's now part of our standard silk library. 😄
clear matrix
Oooooh nice!
upper sandal
a thing I would like is having the CI upload bin sizes onto a database (along with board ID and git hash)
yeah I was thinking of the core mostly
but library sizes could be in it too
(in that imaginary pipe dream data base)
I assume it knows it because it's in the environment variables of the CI run, since it is based on a commit
left pier
env.branch-ref
for example...
if [ "${{ env.branch-ref }}" = "main" ]; then
Explain what you're trying to do again.
Totally makes sense.
There is a the MPY size of Main, The last release and the version in the Bundle.
Are you planning to store the MPY size in Main or to calculate it again on every PR
Caching it ... would use less GH Actions runtime
(although I think Adafruit isn't paying for that since its all open source and public repos)
But it is considerate ...
You could run any script you want...
I think the right place to make that happen would be in
https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython-build-tools/blob/main/circuitpython_build_tools/build.py
But I'm not yet sure of where to store it..
I can't think of a reason to not commit to the repo ...
I bet you could use GH Artifacts, but I'm not familiar with using it in this way.
https://docs.github.com/en/actions/using-workflows/storing-workflow-data-as-artifacts#about-workflow-artifacts
Yep... you can download-artifact
For a GH Action run... but I don't see download "this one".
yeah the official one doesn't support that. There is an issue for that.
This one does.
https://github.com/dawidd6/action-download-artifact
And someone describes this exact scenario and the answer is use that GH Action ^^^^
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68018990/github-actions-artifact-retrieval
I have to run... have a great weekend!
sand lotus
Received 2 10,000mah adafruit batteries today. Got a possible hurricane headed this way and starting to charge up everything.
the 10K batteries are brand new products, Adafruit's max used to be 6600. excited to try it out with my weatherstation which i'm sure will get some work this week. logging everything to adafruitio, as long as i have wifi anyway. hmmm could still log using my phone as a tether.
longest i've been without power from a hurricane was 6 days back in 2006.
sd card logging is a great idea, i haven't set that up yet. have an sd card on the tft featherwing.
don't think adafruitio has a way to import a log from an sd card, definitely not with wippersnapper anyway which is what i'm using as my main real time environment data stuff right now.
i have a V2 on wippersnapper for temp data, S2 with another temp sensor and tft featherwing, ugh too many projects.
i think when you upload using mqtt it'll give data points the wrong timestamp? like it only works in real time? can you specify a timestamp in the json? that would work.
same, just basic stuff with wippersnapper. i've used mqtt/json manually with the S2 once just to get it working then moved onto another project.
having the difference done for people instead of having to do manually in their heads would definitely be helpful.
summary sounds like a good idea 👍
have a good night 🙂
thank you for streaming
supple veldt
thx for the stream, good to be watching.
inner spade
Thanks for the stream. Appreciate your tests of the new utility!
smoky island
about to start up this morning's stream, picking up work on the mpy filesize action. follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N-8xIzviqc
inner spade
👋
proper prawn
Good morning Tim. Watching you on Twitch.tv. Unfortunately I missed your DeepDive yesterday evening.
Hi CGrover!
inner spade
Hi CGrover!
Hello Paulsk!
proper prawn
Tim, if you have the time later on... I need help to solve a CPY V8.0.0- latest on a UM ProS3 gettting a WiFi Authentication Error.
OK, it's I think more related to the new WiFi connection system of V8.0.0.
They now use a '.env' file to autmatically connect at boot time
brazen chasm
heya dudes
proper prawn
Thank you Tim...Here's the CPY readthedocs latest. Unfortunately I didn't find any examples. I experienced that the command 'wifi.AuthMode.WPA2' looks to be accepted. Doesn't provoke an error.
brazen chasm
if i get a traceback to an mpy file, whats the easiest way to find where the code actually goes wrong, since i cant see clear text of mpy-file?
so the line number is the exact one in the repo
inner spade
There’s a source bundle for all adafruit libraries available on circuitpython.org, too.
brazen chasm
because the bundles always has the currentmain bransch in github?
brazen chasm
There’s a source bundle for all adafruit libraries available on circuitpython.or...
ok, didnt know that. also always reflecting the latest version
git it. thx
inner spade
Very useful to know positive or negative changes when tweaking the libs.
Helpful when looking at the cumulative effect when simultaneously changing multiple libs.
Is there a CircuitPython build of mpy-tool for looking inside an mpy file?
brazen chasm
Is there a CircuitPython build of mpy-tool for looking inside an mpy file?
yes! this is what i want. is there?
inner spade
It measures qstr and constant sizes
brazen chasm
well i like the idea of uncompiled bundles too
inner spade
It doesn’t decode back to the source.
No, the tool examines the header and provides some stats.
upper sandal
because the bundles always has the currentmain bransch in github?
note that if you are looking for the source of adafruit libraries, my favorite method is to use the search here https://github.com/adafruit
inner spade
There may be a couple of utilities in there, too.
upper sandal
actually my other favorite method is to look in the .py version of the bundle, as I have it unzipped locally with an update script so I keep to latest
brazen chasm
vs code cpy extenstions automagically downloads the latest bundle when you open a cpy folder. mpy style.is there a way to also have it update a local copy of the uncompiled versions?
sand lotus
good morning
tired, was up all night/morning redesigning my pcb. found out the ano encoder is EOL, there won't ever be more in the store.
it really is. it's like waking up one day and finding out that some python function you're using doesn't exist anymore and there's no replacement. it's troubling.
inner spade
it really is. it's like waking up one day and finding out that some python funct...
That was yesterday for me. ulab isn’t in the 7.3.3 distribution for matrix portal.
sand lotus
yeah lost you there for about 20 seconds
the music only comes through as background noise whenever you talk, doubt you'll ever get hit for that, i can't even tell what you're listening to.
inner spade
Yes, cut for size to accommodate bluetooth, I believe.
sand lotus
matrix portal has bluetooth?
brazen chasm
all the project zip files from the learn guides, i pressume, always contain the latest bundles, mpy or otherwise, courtesy Adabot?
sand lotus
ahh that's a cool idea. custom freeze whatever you need and trash the rest.
ok that needs to happen someday
inner spade
Yes, cut for size to accommodate bluetooth, I believe.
Portalbase for matrix portal is larger than for other PyPortals.
brazen chasm
all the project zip files from the learn guides, i pressume, always contain th...
check
sand lotus
portalbase has a lot of nice features but is kind of big itself vs custom coding something for mqtt or adafruitio using json. i've done it and came in waaay under portalbases's size
like, portalbase has got some bloat
true, and it takes care of a lot of different formats automatically
well i don't even have a pyportal so i have to be picky with how i use it or it throw errors for not having a portal device.
like trying to adapt it with a feather, it doesn't really like much.
brazen chasm
why are we thrown back to the 1980s running out of memory problems? is it very expensive /space consuming to just have tons of RAM when creating CPY HW?
sand lotus
ram is expensive, doesn't matter if it's DDR5 or NOR Flash. if someone is using it for ram then bam, pricetag
proper prawn
The Unexpected Maker PROS3 has 16MB
sand lotus
in comparison, sram is relatively cheap vs the size of the microcontroller. like there's a weird size issue where it seems to stem from.
so does the UM featherS3, but it's also more expensive compared to the Adafruit S3. That 16MB chip is not cheap. It's like a $7 chip by itself.
yeah it's got 8MB of ram
most feathers have qspi sram
proper prawn
Here are details
sand lotus
not going to speak for all UM S3's but mine crashes to hard fault handler when using wifi, practically unusable, i had to switch to an adafruit feather s2 instead.
proper prawn
here another img
sand lotus
lady ada mentioned a project using the cortex M7 someday. it's a pretty beefy upgrade when/if that happens.
proper prawn
I read that there are some WiFi (interfacing) problems with these S3's and CPY, but I did not read all the ins and outs
sand lotus
yeah it's early and some features don't work right, just a shame that i bought a beast of a feather and can't use it for what i bought it for.
there's no warnings on any pages when you buy an S3 that using wifi will crash serial every time.
strong acorn
is it more than just the known beta issues with 8.0.0-beta.0? -S3s should work fine with 7.x
sand lotus
what's the definition of brand new? 1 month? 3 months? 6 months? 1 year?
strong acorn
there are open issues about wifi behavior on 8.0.0-beta.0, that's expected
sand lotus
if it's only had 1 month of work then it's still 1 month old. that does makes sense but also one of those nuanced things you have to stay current with to know that.
yes, i was also using 1 month as an example.
strong acorn
each release has alpha/beta/stable in the release notes... boards within a port should all behave similarly
caveat... S2/S3/C3/Vanilla-ESP32 have different alpha/beta/stable stauses within the "espressif" port
sand lotus
devs roam between issues, lately i think the C3's been getting some work.
i've only done 1 PR but also noticed things were out of order and it confused me deeply. glad i'm not the only one confused by that.
strong acorn
tfw you try to scroll the Github page that is displayed in YT
sand lotus
that's how you know you've been spending a lot of time on github 🤣
java + donuts... made a lot of sense 🙂 oop, javascript close enough
i know you've done minecraft so there's no way around java there. loved your feather in mc btw.
sand lotus
yeah i wanted to ask how it's pulling all the data, does it use magic blocks or is it all plugin?
so i am interested in seeing more about that
brazen chasm
see ya Foamy!
inner spade
Thanks!
sand lotus
thanks for streaming, have a nice weekend 👋
proper prawn
Thank you (again) Tim. Have a nice weekend y'all
smoky island
Thanks everyone. Have a great day 👋
open girder
Desk of Ladyada - Proto-buildin' Weekend https://youtu.be/7VVkVZFm6z0
viral sail
Good evening.
covert crag
That looks so satisfyingly clicky.
sand lotus
oh so it'll be breadboard friendly on the breakout. nice.
they are very clicky yes like an mx switch.
lilac tusk
Clicky switches are super satisfying
sand lotus
i got a bunch of them in different colors for my project.
you want 4, to get 4 of 1 color you have to buy 2 packs which = 6 switches.
sand lotus
so if you buy 3 packs you'll get 3 sets of 4 which is good for 3 PCB's... i have 5 pcb's so. yes the math gets confusing.
orchid burrow
Errrrr---- that silk screen said PCA9584A... but the i2c mux is PCA9548A isn't it?
sand lotus
tons of stemma, more stemma ports yusss. stemma is so satisfying to work with.
orchid burrow
Pseudo more ports. If you're using it to conquer address conflicts not so much. >.<
sand lotus
i'm sure the adafruit testers appreciate that, can't even imagine.
orchid burrow
You can mold JS SH1.0 4pin headers into a single molded holder so you need only plug in three plugs -- two macro and one standard. Though the bottom pads will be nice yes.
sand lotus
yeah if you try to plug a stemma plug upside down you'll crunch the pins, they're so small it's hard to tell if you've never used them before.
lilac tusk
I do love the new silk
orchid burrow
Yeah, your folders say TCA9548A. But your silk says TCA9584A. You've transposed the 8 and 4
shell mason
pinguin is good tool
echo canopy
Question does the PB86 have a resistor as part of the circuit or is that needed on a breadboard?
echo canopy
Cool thanks
sand lotus
i personally recommend 500 ohms or there about.
lilac tusk
Oh slide switches
sand lotus
Here's showing the first 3 are using 68 ohm resistor which are way too bright. The rest are on 4.7k ohm resistors. Anything between 500 ohm to 1K ohm is fine.
i thought 4.7k was a little dim during the day, so i ended up going with 500 ohms after using a variety of different resistors with them.
orchid burrow
I kinda like the super brightness of hte first three myself. I imagine that would heat up the LEDs though.
sand lotus
yes someone told me there's a risk of burning out the LED if it's too bright and always on.
orchid burrow
nods But what I like is that in that mov file, it makes the switch itself glow a bit. THe others yes there is some diffusion but it's just te LED effectively.
covert crag
Sashay away 4V only switch
sand lotus
most guides for LED's recommend about 500-1k
the opacity of the caps are different so they all glow differently. i had the same idea. the material and color aren't consistent even with 500 ohm.
orchid burrow
fix the silk... >.< 😆
sand lotus
here's all 500 ohm
orchid burrow
I have seen it I can't unsee it. :P
Ah, yeah, that isn't hugely different for the effect I'm talking about. Fair. THank you for the demo.
sand lotus
the red caps definitely glow more than the others, made with different opacity color dye or something
orchid burrow
possibly also a dye that is reactive to the red range in some way. There may be some amplification happening.
not amplification I suppose some something like
sand lotus
could be dunno, just sharing my experience with them.
the night is wicked and full of switches awooo
jovial estuary
possibly also a dye that is reactive to the red range in some way. There may be...
probably not; most dyes that fluoresce in the red need to be pumped with green or shorter wavelengths
orchid burrow
probably not; most dyes that fluoresce in the red need to be pumped with green o...
nods Agreed; hence the walk back on amplification.
viral sail
Thanks and good night. 🌑
shell mason
nice building desk of ladyada
proven crow
'Night!
sand lotus
adding your own resistor also allows you to customize the brightness to your own liking.
orchid burrow
Ooooh, that's good info. I was wondering how Ada was doing a qwiic/STEMMA mux but SparkFun's has been backorder for ages.
sand lotus
actually now that i've watched the video a couple times, it's not the red that's different it's just that the blue is darker than all the others.
but the red does glow a tiny bit brighter, just subtle difference in opacity depending on the color.
viral sail
Good afternoon.
open surge
👋
haughty quiver
hi there!
drowsy inlet
hi all
inner spade
👋
sand lotus
I've never seen JP be early or late, he arrives exactly when you need him.
clever summit
🇸🇪 👋
cinder wind
Max of 4? Perfect for my spider eyes
viral sail
It's an Adabox-sized box.
drowsy inlet
I always think I'll be able to resist, but I always end up clicking that Checkout button. 🙂
shell mason
totally lars
cinder wind
HypnoLars
shell mason
LarsHypnoToad
cinder wind
It's like a mini-adabox unboxing!
drowsy inlet
what's an adabox? 😉
shell mason
some could make Psyconaut Goggles
sand lotus
good call in time to put together before halloween.
picked one up and the Stemma 5 port boards just became available today. if anyone's been eyeing that one up since it was announced last week they're available today.
i've been wanting those goggles for a couple years now, this is the right time to get them. thanks JP. 🙂
can put some monstermask eyes in them the rest of the year. maybe get a large version of stitch from disney for mine. the antithesis to lars. 😛
shell mason
would you place some more fusion for cover eyes?
sand lotus
ohh dynobot hit me because i said a bad word accidentally inside another word :/
cinder wind
"The Miracle of Hot Glue", a new Apple TV+ series staring David Attenborough
verbal river
oops missed the beginning of the stream - busy soldering
sand lotus
i like the goggles because they remind me of the riddic goggles.
shell mason
Lars the Psyconaut was a moment there
verbal river
i am hypnotize 👁️
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver
clear matrix
ohh dynobot hit me because i said a bad word accidentally inside another word :/
Fixed the issue. The subword is no longer in the list as a wildcard, only as the specific word.
sand lotus
thank you 🙂 because i love riddick so likely to mention that movie again in the future.
kattni the silent dynobot assassin swooping in to fix issues
clear matrix
In the future, please feel free to let me know in #help-with-community so I can take a look. I don't always see messages in every channel. 🙂
shell mason
Devon you have watched those movies
drowsy inlet
thanks jp!
sand lotus
i know what i'm wearing for halloween this year 🙂
thanks JP
i need that song on a loop, i could listen to it for hours while coding in circuit python. such a great song.
verbal river
i need that song on a loop, i could listen to it for hours while coding in circu...
I use that song as a test case to see if my synth can BASS
upbeat coral
I'm guessing the hurricane has pre-empted the show today.
lavish patrol
Looks like it. I'm staring at a blank screen here. 🤔
viral sail
Yes, no 3D Hangouts until next week. Hope @rocky reef & @hard hollow stay safe and dry.
lavish patrol
Yes. Fingers crossed for @Pedro & @hard hollow 🤞
upbeat coral
Fingers crossed for all the people in the path(s).
viscid wasp
I am in palm beach county and we are getting pretty stiff winds. The palm trees are bending.
urban gale
Stay safe Charles, N&P and everyone else in the Ian path 🍀
shell mason
stay safe in florida
viscid wasp
Thanks everybody👍
viral sail
Good evening.
open girder
Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/vmhu3vaffr
SHOW and TELL 9/28/2022 https://youtu.be/g0O80e88yWw
open surge
👋
robust horizon
Good evening all!
nova totem
Evening everybody
tulip canyon
Hello everyone
sand lotus
👋 East coast of FL, still have power. Doing fine.
tulip canyon
Thinking of @hard hollow @rocky reef and all in Ian's path
open surge
👋 East coast of FL, still have power. Doing fine.
stay safe!
inner spade
👋
haughty quiver
Hi!
dim wigeon
Hi everyone! 👋
sand lotus
Interesting switch design, thanks for sharing that. Nice to see how KB's have evolved over time. Looks like a nice clicky KB.
ohh neat feet design, don't have to flip it over to flip out the feet.
cinder wind
Viva la WeeFee!
sand lotus
PICOW is here!
nova totem
Congrats @robust horizon ! Awesome job
cinder wind
It just keeps going, but the problem is you can never stop /speed-dont-slow-down
lilac tusk
I will eventually get a Pi Cow
sand lotus
same
robust horizon
dim wigeon
I don’t have a PicoW yet either.
lilac tusk
Darth Faders lol
tribal vault
"Darth faders" lol
sand lotus
well they're hard as heck to get
robust horizon
next, the PR: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/6933
nova totem
I got mine from a reseller "locally" (in Canada). They may still have some (buyapi.ca I think)
robust horizon
The "absolute latest" uf2 is also available for download: https://adafruit-circuit-python.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html?prefix=bin/raspberry_pi_pico_w/en_US/
cinder wind
Darth Faders is the lamp control that has its own opinion for where it should be set
nova totem
That would be a great lamp. Guest tries to change it, it changes back on them
sand lotus
oh that's adorable liz!
dim wigeon
That’s sooo cute @split gazelle !
tulip canyon
No sound SAD TROMBONE
haughty quiver
📯
nova totem
Awesome @split gazelle I saw your pictures of it printing and was thinking it may be an instrument
sand lotus
amazing hid project, would have never guessed it moves a mouse.
split gazelle
thanks folks!
tulip canyon
Digital tape's nemesis
cinder wind
I loved MiniDiscs. Had a great tiny player for them
dim wigeon
I remember MiniDisc! I had a portable MiniDisc recorder. They were a great technology that never caught on for not-technical reasons, I think.
lilac tusk
@split gazelle I’d love if you ended up doing a Christmas themed version where you could play Felix Navi Dad lol 😂
Thrift stores are fun
tribal vault
yooooo grats on the fix
sand lotus
a repair is a repair, even without specific knowledge, it's a great feeling. getting into the maker community has benefits other than just making stuff, repair is an underrated part of the skills you gain.
it's like a hard disc platter? didn't know that.
sand lotus
oh wow, looks like something from the movie Brazil or THX1186
got an awesome cyberpunk repurposed vibe, super cool.
haughty quiver
that eye crt is great!!
nova totem
have to keep your eye on all these projects
gray hinge
Thanks!
cinder wind
woohoo! I am famous!
dim wigeon
Apparently podcasts breed like coat hangers… 😄
haughty quiver
I listened to the first episode, loved it!
sand lotus
next up 4 podcasts, then 8, and 16!
cinder wind
sand lotus
first podcast was excellent, very interesting.
the one that caught my interest was the 3D printer using LIDAR
cinder wind
we're talking mostly about boots and boot-related products
haughty quiver
loads of them
gray hinge
Some pics and video
cinder wind
loads of boots, yes
haughty quiver
it's gorgeous @gray hinge
dim wigeon
I love the stories that inspire people to make stuff as much as, if not more than, the actual stuff they made.
gray hinge
it's gorgeous <@751866079223218196>
Thanks, figured this group would be the ones who’d “get it”. 😆
viral sail
Thanks everyone.
open surge
https://thebootloader.net if anyone is interested in a podcast
sand lotus
it's a chip surplus, it's a chip surplus, everday, in every way... can't wait for that day.
tulip canyon
Thanks everyone. Great projects as always
nova totem
Thanks everyone, great projects!
steel laurel
I have a question; Is there any way I can use the maker-pi 2040 Motor output/chip/h-bridge as a simple relay?
open girder
ASK AN ENGINEER 9/28/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/gHfHZjysbgo
glad valley
Would you guys consider selling a breakout board for making 3A usb-c powerbanks? I get alot of use out of my 22000 mah one and it’d be great to have the option to make custom ones/ replace the boards in broken ones
slow spire
Hi, everyone!
dim knot
noble grove
Good evening 'fruits
open surge
thanks! 😊
open girder
10% discount code, code is: segments http://www.adafruit.com
dim knot
The Great Search: Current-carrying Slide Switch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm2ui45dwDI
sand lotus
looking forward to building the neopixel goggles for halloween this year
dim knot
pearl shoal
Hoping the ruiz bros are doing well in Orlando. FYI we are safe in Pensacola.
tulip canyon
The delay has actually allowed me time to get use of previous Adaboxes
dim wigeon
How many chips are typically in a reel? (I’ve never paid attention because I’ve never built anything in quantity…)
sand lotus
depends on the chip size, pretty sure the reels for pick and place machines are a standard size?
dim wigeon
I assume some number of thousands would be typical?
dim knot
sand lotus
oh for sure, maybe 10k
1k to 10k reels depending on chip size, i'll assume, i've never used a pick and place machine though 🙂
nova totem
Digikey accidently sent me a reel of 1206 330 Ohm resistors (and didn't want me to both sending it back), it was a couple thousands I think. I'm set if I ever need that part myself now!
dim knot
sand lotus
whew, it's a bit more work picking them out of the reels though if you're going to hand solder or reflow them.
dim wigeon
I do not enjoy hand-soldering SMD parts for exactly that reason. I tend to drop them on the floor while I’m digging them out of the cut tape strips.
sand lotus
braden does some awesome stuff
tulip canyon
"Python is slow" lol
open surge
braden does some awesome stuff
I agree - we had a good chat about his products
lilac tusk
I ordered 500 power only usb c receptacles once. Came on a huge reel
tribal vault
you can write webservers in django with python nowadays. Really good language for beginners to learn
dim wigeon
I ordered 500 power only usb c receptacles once. Came on a huge reel
I ordered two RPi Picos from Digi-Key once. They came on a little strip of cut tape, which was fascinating to me.
lilac tusk
I admire the cut tape for the Pico
tulip canyon
"make it run make it right make it fast"
lilac tusk
I ordered 5 once and it was just a chunk of cut tape with Pico
dim wigeon
you can write webservers in django with python nowadays. Really good language fo...
My team at work writes data orchestration stuff in Python (with Apache Airflow)
open surge
The CircuitPython Show website is running FastAPI in Python (of course!). 🙂
dim wigeon
Python is so incredibly capable for sooo many use cases.
sand lotus
create the kind of newsletter you'd like to subscribe to and inevitably others will enjoy it too. 😉
ivory flax
So, no Adafruit discount code this week?
sand lotus
all the KB projects lately have been amazing. the tandy and commodore, really cool stuff.
dim wigeon
The KB projects are making me reminisce about my favorite keyboards over the years. I hate that I’m now apparently old enough to feel this much nostalgia. 🤣🤷♀️
sand lotus
i've missed seeing Erin St. Blaine projects, really nice to see her back at creating aesthetically mesmerizing stuff again.
open surge
So, no Adafruit discount code this week?
segments is the code
slow spire
🌋
open girder
10% discount code, code is: segments http://www.adafruit.com
slow spire
I would lava volcanic sensor.
dim wigeon
Those jellyfish are BEAUTIFUL! 😲
tulip canyon
CLUE ships with the most perfect demo. I struggle to build something better
sand lotus
rtc adaloggers this week? something about new pcb's that's just beautiful, like that new car smell.
urban gale
Why is degunking so satisfying?
dim wigeon
The selective solder machine is always so mesmerizing in general, too.
ivory flax
segments is the code
👍
sand lotus
go todbot and JP! great project.
slow spire
Gorgeous project!
sand lotus
that's some awesome music too.
slow spire
How long does it take to rewind a cassette; that's what I want to know.
LOL @tulip canyon
slow spire
Please stand by.
sand lotus
so what's new with you Phil?
drowsy inlet
hah
slow spire
The secret password is… SEGMENTS
dim wigeon
Apparently Ladyada needs a “new new new” USB cable or two… 😉
dim knot
INA219 High Side DC Current Sensor Breakout - 26V ±3.2A Max - STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/904
nova totem
You always think you have so many USB cables - until you need one
dim wigeon
And you never have the kind you need.
slow spire
How does everyone feel when they see a USB mini B socket?
sand lotus
loathing
dim knot
Micro Servo with Alligator Clips https://www.adafruit.com/product/5592
sand lotus
i got some of those new adafruit magnetic cables with usb-c, micro-b, and lightning tips.. absolutely in love with them.
dim wigeon
I just replaced my phone, and it was so galling to once again have to buy an iPhone that didn’t use USB-C. 😛
I want the world to hurry up and standardize.
tulip canyon
Can you mod to continuous rotation?
open girder
@tulip canyon will ask!
sand lotus
get some magnetic cables and you won't even notice what kind of connector it has after a while. all your device work with 1 cable... it's amazing.
dim knot
Assembled Adafruit 0.56" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display - I2C Backpack - STEMMA QT - Blue https://www.adafruit.com/product/5601
Assembled Adafruit 0.56" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display - I2C Backpack - STEMMA QT - White https://www.adafruit.com/product/5604
slow spire
Can you mod to continuous rotation?
@open girder question
dim wigeon
@sand lotus When they’re back in stock again, I will almost definitely do that.
sand lotus
i need some more backpacks.. they were out of stock yesterday in most colors.
for a 7 segment project i'm working on, this is very relevant to me.
dim knot
OpenMV Cam H7 R1 - MicroPython Embedded Vision Machine Learning - OV7725 Image Sensor https://www.adafruit.com/product/4478
slow spire
@dim wigeon There's been an ongoing rumor that Apple would simply remove the Lightning port and replace it with nothing.
dim wigeon
@slow spire that seems an unwise decision to me when they’re putting 48 megapixel 8K cameras in their phones…downloading those video files without a wired connection sounds awful.
tulip canyon
❤️ OpenMV
sand lotus
nice, so i'll replace my iphone with nothing, or something from a different manufacturer. i'm still upset they removed the 3.5mm jack.
dim knot
Black Magic Probe with JTAG Cable and Serial Cable - V2.3 https://www.adafruit.com/product/3839
slow spire
I'm an Apple fan, but I agree that it would be nice to upgrade to USB-C.
dim wigeon
My iPad Pro and MacBooks both have USB-C. I don’t know why Apple is clinging to Lightning (USB 2.1 speed) for the iPhone.
cinder wind
this cable is weirdo
dim knot
Re-programmable USB Type-C PD to 2.1/5.5mm Barrel Jack Cable https://www.adafruit.com/product/5501
slow spire
At least there is WiFi for file transfer.
sand lotus
USB-C PD going to eventually replace the barrel jack
slow spire
I wonder what the delta would be between WiFi and USB-C for file transfer.
dim wigeon
Dunno. Anymore Wi-Fi is pretty speedy.
urban gale
whoa I'm gonna fry a lot of equipment w/ that
cinder wind
I wish that cable had a little display to indicate what voltage it's outputting
sand lotus
all things being equal the cable will always be faster
tulip canyon
purpose for speed charging?
slow spire
🍟
nova totem
I wish that cable had a little display to indicate what voltage it's outputting
Just lick it, should let you know
sand lotus
🔥 what could go wrong
noble grove
Need a display on the cable to show the voltage.
dim wigeon
“1 KV, please….”
slow spire
Bet it has some interesting undocumented behaviour.
dim knot
Adafruit PCF8575 I2C 16 GPIO Expander Breakout - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/5611
sand lotus
MCP23017 is out of stock, everywhere, period. it's just gone.
i designed my new PCB using the MCP23017 and can't get the chips for them 🤦♂️
dim wigeon
I wonder how many feet (miles?) of .100 pin headers Adafruit goes through in a year… 🤔
sand lotus
i'm definitely going to need to switch to the PCF8575 but it's SMD, requiring reflow which i've never done, time to up my game :/
open girder
10% discount code, code is: segments http://www.adafruit.com
lilac tusk
I wonder how many feet (miles?) of .100 pin headers Adafruit goes through in a y...
Over a million miles a bet
noble grove
QUESTION: Do you have an I/O expander that does pull-up and pull-down?
tulip canyon
I would love a Stemma hub with selective powering
nova totem
@open girder Question: Speaking of crazy ideas that like that cable, if you were going to build a tiny space heater type project, what would you use for it?
slow spire
@sand lotus Looks like there's a 28-SPDIP version at Digi-Key:
https://www.digikey.com/short/tfdthmn4
sand lotus
MCP23017 didn't even do pull down, you'd have to design your own resistor pull down
@slow spire ohh they were out of stock last week. that's the exact chip i need. thank you!
cinder wind
Question: Why isn't there any Adafruit candy in the shape of the cartoon characters?
dim knot
QUESTION: Have you ever logged your walking around adafruit with a pedometer?
noble grove
I need to be able to switch between pull-up, pull-down, out high, and out low.
tulip canyon
I would like to opt out of pin headers
pearl shoal
QUESTION: Do you have an I/O expander that does pull-up and pull-down?
If you really need pull-down, you can use one of the microcontrollers - most of the SAMD chips have them. You can probably use the SEESAW breakouts as well (the one w/the SAMD09)
lilac tusk
I would like to opt out of pin headers
Same, I have about 500 of them
noble grove
M0 does both
slow spire
1,000,000 pins = 1.58 miles if my math is right
dim wigeon
@slow spire I came up with the same number, so I think your math is right.
inner spade
Peltier module space heater.
viral sail
Adafruit beer 
🍺
slow spire
<@477211731089948682> I came up with the same number, so I think your math is ri...
phew!
nova totem
Just for the record I do not plan to use an attended, or unattended space heater, just an idea then wondering how it is done
lilac tusk
120 for a ft, 633,600 for a mile
tulip canyon
Thanks @open girder and community
sand lotus
Just ordered 40 MCP23017's from digikey. That should do me for this round of PCB's. Will redesign it after these for the PCF expander.
lilac tusk
So yeah 1.58
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌒
lilac tusk
Have a great night everyone
open surge
good show, thank you!
sand lotus
Thank you @slow spire ❤️
glad ether
ZENER TIME!
slow spire
"Hello, I'd like to order a mile of header pins."
urban gale
TY Adafruit! Have a great night everyone. Stay safe hurricane peeps!
slow spire
Also, just for kicks, 393,700.8 header pins in 1 km
glad ether
"We don't buy headers by the pin, we buy header pins by the mile here"
sand lotus
thankfully they can buy them already broken up
a 1 mile shipping box would carry extra shipping charges
noble grove
Well I guess I could piggy-back 2 MCP23017s with resistors between and use one for pull-up/pull-down and the other for I/O
slow spire
"Oh, yeah, the guy in the $4,000 suit is going to order header pins by the inch. C'MON."
glad ether
a 1 mile shipping box would carry extra shipping charges
use their very slight flexibility to your advantage, order a 5 mile long spool of header pins
sand lotus
you need to put 4.7k resistors on the MCP23017 SDA and SCL lines to 3V3, found out the hard way my original pull up design sucked.
slow spire
a 1 mile shipping box would carry extra shipping charges
Or you could just have the header megapede deliver itself.
sand lotus
here's 2 mcp23017's with good pull up design to the I2C pins
slow spire
https://tenor.com/view/centroid-centipede-bug-gif-12538493
That gif could make for a creepy progress indicator, just in time for halloween!
sand lotus
i'm not using the mcp output pinouts with pull downs though so you'll want to add your pull down scheme after those pins. definitely doable
glad ether
That gif could make for a creepy progress indicator, just in time for halloween!
oh my god yes im using that for my next GUI
plush cosmos
Is the gd32f103 a direct substitute for the stm32f103 or a there some different things to make stm software run?
dim wigeon
Side note; Somehow 1.6 miles per year of pin headers is simultaneously both a smaller and larger number than I expected.
lavish patrol
Greetings, all. 👋
haughty quiver
hello
inner spade
👋
open surge
good afternoon!
clever summit
"How is this done?" - Just some MAGIC!
haughty quiver
nuhahahaha
lavish patrol
OTG 👍
cinder wind
"Jean Parque's Atelier"
lavish patrol
Lol. Audio's now out of sync.
cinder wind
CHROME! shakes fist
inner spade
Audio’s back and in sync on YouTube
lavish patrol
Cool cool cool.
clever summit
Audio’s back and in sync on YouTube
Too late. Already on Twitch.
cinder wind
ooo maybe use those cool magnetic connectors to make a cable going between the two keyboard splits https://www.adafruit.com/product/5467
shell mason
some could make tetris blocks for keyboard
cinder wind
ahah he's got a "BS" key. good one, JP
lavish patrol
Hilarity ensues.
shell mason
Lars Key
lavish patrol
Lol
lavish patrol
Thanks, @haughty quiver 😀
open surge
good show, thanks!
inner spade
An interesting project. Still need more keyboards. Thanks!
lavish patrol
Great workshop.
grand tusk
bonk
inner spade
Circuit Python help desk today, too.
inner spade
Circuit Python help desk today, too.
In two hours, I think.
haughty quiver
ah , right on! thanks, I forgot about Help Desk
shell mason
think chair installed split keyboard so it go side when un-used
haughty quiver
thanks all so much for coming to the show!
next compass
thanks all so much for coming to the show!
Greetings John, Marie here. Enjoyed your show today and I'm interested in the brightness controller shown on circuitpython parsec, will you be posting how-to?
winter zinc
Greetings John, Marie here. Enjoyed your show today and I'm interested in the br...
It's unlikely anyone will answer you in this channel after the live broadcast is over, it's better to ask for help in the help-with- channels.
The code for the brightness controller is all visible in the CircuitPython parsec video, there will be no other how-to. There are other guides about how to use the HID library in CircuitPython:
https://learn.adafruit.com/circuitpython-essentials/circuitpython-hid-keyboard-and-mouse
https://learn.adafruit.com/circuitpython-rotary-trinkey-brightness-crank
inner spade
👋
brazen grove
good evening
open surge
hi!
brazen chasm
Hiya
sullen hawk
👋 hello!
sand lotus
👋
proper prawn
Hi Tim and all present. Happy Friday
coarse crag
Hey I’m here now!! 😁
sand lotus
Oh this is the thing kattni was talking about in dev.
Oh wow that looks super useful for beginner guides
That’s the 7 segment backpack. I just finished a project with it. I know that one. 😄
brazen grove
perhaps it was cancelled because someone manually requested to re-run it?
the error message sounds like something like this might have happened
then maybe somehow it's being run twice, and the second request cancels the first?
sand lotus
Thought I saw in chat it wasn’t working right for months? Yeah I saw that somewhere too.
sullen hawk
I know gitlab has the option to cancel pipelines if a newer pipeline is generated, something like that? but wouldn't it show in the historical list of actions?
it could mean the entire action was cancelled because a job or something failed?
brazen grove
catastrophic success
upper sandal
another example of failing upwards !
sullen hawk
/!\ job failed successfully /!
[] yes [] no
brazen grove
yes
"is this job successful or cancelled?" "yes"
I have another theory: it somehow gets stuck at the very end after completing, and then gets cancelled when the schedule starts the next one
inner spade
Is the yml script trying to create an annotation? Could that step be failing?
sand lotus
Schrodinger’s commit
brazen grove
it somehow gets stuck at the very end after completing, and then gets cancelled when the schedule starts the next one
the annotation is just created by whatever cancels it
sullen hawk
OH IT IS RUNNING TWICE!
inner spade
I’m guessing that an annotation could be a message from a script called by the yml.
sand lotus
I think you found the culprit plain as day. Makes perfect sense with what we were talking about earlier
brazen grove
can you just rename that group and see if that helps?
just add something to make it unique
sand lotus
and there’s priority involved so one will get ditched every time and if 5he higher priority one has a problem then everything fails and would have attracted more attention much sooner.
sand lotus
Can you go back to the 16th and see the commits for both images files? See what changed around then?
Oh that’s right it gets removed. Pays to find issues early then. 🥲
Oh I meant the yams changes not actual images.
sullen hawk
PYCHARM/INTELLIJ GANG
🥳
go to insights
and click network
the actions are running on their own accounts for forks, in terms of like billing and whatnot
I don't think it should be sharing secrets or anything
oh yeah
also tangent: this happened a few months ago, https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/github-actions-being-actively-abused-to-mine-cryptocurrency-on-github-servers/
lots of fun
left pier
Its free in public repos ... Acrtions.
Forks cannot access the secrets in the Upstream repo.
CP repo actions don't run on forks.
Did you make a PR ?
Pre-commit might run that could make sense.
But I've not seen the full build run on my Fork.
... trying that now ...
yep... pre-commit runs on commits to your fork, but not Build, or windows port or Update CP.org workflows
(that's specifically for the circuitpython repo)
That job uses concurrency... but I don't anything about concurrency.
I bet the scheduled job is always "in progress" (timer running)
So it wins.
sand lotus
True, if it’s a cron then everything gets queued up for each event
left pier
yes
mouse over the post, click "..." and copy link to message
Interesting someone asking how to ignore concurrency for manual runs but it is not a schedule workflow ...
https://github.com/community/community/discussions/31908?sort=old
no, they don't get an answer on how to do it .
sullen hawk
It's probably more of a suggestion/best practice recommendation from Github rather than how it's "supposed" to be configured, but I'm probably splitting hairs with thinking about this
left pier
We only use Concurrency in two repos
modern night
I've got to get going but it was nice being able to catch the stream while I worked. Have a good one all!
left pier
Learning Guides and Bundle
cp repo also has concurrency
https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/main/.github/workflows/build.yml#L15
It doesn't show up in the search because only MP repo is indexed
ty Foamyguy !
sand lotus
Thanks for streaming. Fun bug hunt.
sullen hawk
Thanks for the nice stream, was fun watching and poking around
Also yay pycharm
inner spade
Thanks! I now know a tiny bit more about git workflow. ( more than zero where I started )
left pier
Its a vast topic area ...
smoky island
Thanks! I now know a tiny bit more about git workflow. ( more than zero where I ...
Me too! Always fun to go on an adventure to learn more.
proper prawn
Tnx Tim!
smoky island
Good night everyone. Thanks for hanging out 👋
proper prawn
Gn all
sand lotus
Oh thehurricane is long past Florida and Georgia. It’s in the Carolina’s now.
left pier
brazen chasm
will @smoky island stream today?
sand lotus
@brazen chasm Yes. On saturdays he usually goes from 11am to about 1pm EST. He did say last night he’d be streaming. Still some clean up to do on the git actions images bug kattni found.
brazen chasm
goody. by then the F1 qual is over
smoky island
Getting started now. We're playing with cross platform displayio turtle today. Follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cl9JtEbiCM or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch
inner spade
👋
grand tusk
brazen chasm
🖖
sand lotus
👋
ornate bay
grand tusk
I seem to remember some issues when you subclass a built-in like tuple.
ornate bay
I seem to remember some issues when you subclass a built-in like `tuple`.
Yeah, I think I had something like this happen when I subclassed displayio.Group
But I was also trying to dual subclass which I don't think MicroPython (and CircuitPython) can (or is intended to) do so it might have been that
Oh I think the new PR defines __new__ that returns a tuple
So it isn't Vec2D?
ornate bay
Yeah, and using __init__ isn't an option (I think) since tuple is an immutable class :/
grand tusk
Yeah, Vec2D 'has-a' tuple, rather than 'is-a' tuple.
inner spade
Ah. Had to do something similar when trying to subclass a displayio.Palette built-in object.
ornate bay
Oh, I guess __init__ can be defined if it's subclassed, good point
inner spade
Is there a way to create a display.running property for the microcontroller version for compatibility?
Return true if the display is initialized. Maybe support for multiple displays?
inner spade
Also useful to save memory if the import isn’t needed for a certain project mode.
sand lotus
since turtle works on the pygamer then does that mean it works on the feather rp2040 and pico h/w?
and if so what can it do that displayio can't? like if i have a feather rp2040 would i have a choice in using turtle vs displayio for some stuff?
they've had hidden pw prompts for ssh forever but just realized how awesome that is for streamers too.
pico h / pico w
oh i thought it was an alternative to displayio for the pi