live-broadcast-chat

[sand lotus]

people that play with 66mhz microcontrollers though... usually not the type to be affected by fomo... though i did just get 2 new S3's so what do i know 🤷 😛

zero gets an animation of blinka laying an egg.

[ionic garnet]

absolutely nothing Tim

I miss this weekly because of work

[left pier]

The real question is who is organizing and when is the CP Octopus twitch battle ?

(not it... I don't game)

[ionic garnet]

until my Pico W comes I will study micropython (put it on a Pico and review the network support module and start the port

then test in a few days

[left pier]

CP Day Octo Battle Royale?

[ionic garnet]

when board arrives

[left pier]

Can you change the divers to Blinka ?

[ionic garnet]

hope PiShop.us is the real deal

[left pier]

[ionic garnet]

I got an offer on a guitar for sale on Craigslist. CL did nothing to screen it. 3 minutes of research found clearly a scam. Thanks for nothing CL

[sand lotus]

hope you didn't pay the scalping price, don't contribute to rewarding their behavior.

[inner spade]

Can it just be appended to the list then sort it?

[cinder wind]

list_sorted = sorted(list)

or list.sort() to in-place sort

[inner spade]

Followed by a for loop to de-duplicate.

[cinder wind]

if it's a list of ints, cannot have dupes. sorry not paying attention fully

[sand lotus]

forgot a space after that last # dunno if that'll throw an error in pycharm, mu would definitely complain about that.

[cinder wind]

sorted_deduped_list = sorted(list(set( list_of_strings ))) to be all set-theory about it

[sand lotus]

there's something satisfying about watching an unordered list get sorted

[cinder wind]

yeah better to not have to dedupe after the fact

[sand lotus]

ahh yes the defragmentation/sorting algorithm competitions are really neat to watch.

putting on the finishing touches on the game, home stretch, looking great.

[left pier]

Its looking good !

[sand lotus]

all good games have high scores. the entire arcade generation lived for high scores.

[inner spade]

Thanks for the deep dive stream today. I always learn something new and useful.

[left pier]

Thanks FoamyGuy !
Have a great weekend All.

[cinder wind]

Thanks @smoky island !

[proper prawn]

Tnx Tim !

[sand lotus]

👋 see you tomorrow

[left pier]

Whaaaaat.....

I think you're allowed to take a day off 😉

We can all have work meetings 😦

[smoky island]

My wife and I have a trip planned for next Friday. I meant to mention it at the top of the show, but totally forgot. 😅

[ionic garnet]

gotta run to play guitar for my self-assigned hour. Thanks Tim

[smoky island]

Starting up the stream for the morning. Working on NVM high score storage. Follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qcEaRNdm34 or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[inner spade]

👋

[proper prawn]

Hi Tim

[sand lotus]

goooooooood morning viet... dive.

Prior streams on this topic would be labeled Deep Dive: Octopus Game so you can watch the whole series.

[light stump]

Hey all y’all cool people. Hope to listen and learn a bit while I have a connection.

[sand lotus]

ugh i manually went to adafruits youtube channel and clicked on deep dive. watched for about 5 minutes before i figured out that wasn't the live stream but the one from last night.

yup and if they don't transition seamlessly it will automatically start playing an older adafruit video... if it just so happens to be an older ask and engineer you'll be sitting there for like 10 minutes before... hey i've seen this before.

[light stump]

Yeah I fell asleep last night to the Friday stream and then woke up at 1am to Scott’s deep dive from a year ago.

[inner spade]

Yeah. Would like to have a persistent live channel lock option for YouTube. If there’s a broadcast gap, play Muzak or commercials or cartoons.

[sand lotus]

while it is nice it'll just play random adafruit videos endlessly, theres a time and place when it's convenient which is NOT between live stream transitions.

[inner spade]

Old-time over the air TV.

[sand lotus]

sometimes low tech is better

[inner spade]

Curated TV shows. History repeating itself.

[sand lotus]

i'd go for a live 24/7 adafruit live stream.. maybe that's one way around it. adafruit setups up a never ending live stream that plays through all of its own past videos randomly but during live streams pulls in other sources.

there are live weather channels on youtube that do that kind of thing.

adafruit has enough past content where they could pull something like that off now

i prefer weather channel analogy personally but same thing. something always running in the background giving updates. live updates of github PR's, etc.. in a ticker tape 😛

as if kattni doesn't have enough to do. 😛

[upper sandal]

a live stream of #circuitpython-dev

[sand lotus]

there is a channel dedicated to just adafruit-github-feed because people do chat in the dev channel sometimes as needed.

everything in the feeds category is read only i think. all of that data could be used in livestreams.

i know what nvm means. what is nvm in this case the flash or sram? is nvm just a general term for the onboard ram? don't think i've had a board with eeprom but whats the difference between eeprom and sram for adafruit board. all the ram terminology gets confusing sometimes.

[upper sandal]

it means Non Volatile Memory, so never RAM

[sand lotus]

so it's the flash

qspi flash

[upper sandal]

when a chip has builtin flash, that's where it is

[sand lotus]

i think the confusion comes in because NVM has the word memory in it and so does RAM

[upper sandal]

ESP-IDF has its own NVM management system that microcontroller.nvm plugs into

non-volatile means it stays

[sand lotus]

true but isn't there a way to use some of the sram as non-volatile? i heard lady ada talk about it sometimes. i think progmem or eeprom?

or is it always a reference to qspi flash?

[upper sandal]

there are some types of non volatile rams, though I don't know how accurate the term "ram" is anymore

[sand lotus]

well compared to conventional hdd platters all flash acts like ram in comparison?

i think they didn't want to make the game too fast for their target demographic which was probably around 8-14 years old.

yeah perhaps why they had 2 game mode speeds

separate high scores for mode A & B would be nice.

[upper sandal]

oh is there a repo for your current code ?

[sand lotus]

i see nothing in there with the word octopus

still gotta be local?

[smoky island]

https://github.com/FoamyGuy/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides/tree/octopus_game_and_watch

[sand lotus]

ah i was searching through adafruit main, makes sense

i'm still getting used to github. don't want to do anything in a CP branch and accidentally push commits for personal projects to adafruit main. that's the stuff of awkward nightmares. 😣

[inner spade]

It’s pretty tough to do that. Permissions are tight.

Believe me, I’ve inadvertently tried to on many occasions.

[sand lotus]

ahh so the only way to push is with PR's. that makes me feel better. whew.

[inner spade]

And PRs are reviewed by experts before they are merged.

[upper sandal]

yeah being a cp-librarian I have to be careful when I make an edit directly on github, it doesn't have the option "make a branch on your fork" anymore, so I do it locally instead

[sand lotus]

honestly roadtrips are probably why those things were made in the first place. roadtrips today with modern gadgets is much different than in the 80's and 90's

[inner spade]

Even without librarian permissions, I’m cautious and respectful. I’ve done damage in past careers.

[sand lotus]

i've used github for years but only for my own use, drag and drop for code storage basically. now actually using it as designed with a large group of others is a little overwhelming.

had to setup other components like black and pre-commit, etc.. it's more involved.

play at 950 😛

oh it hits max speed at 500 now?

seemed about 202-203

you know it's getting close to done when you start removing all your debugging prints 🙂

i think in a past stream someone shared a great 7 segment font. @inner spade perhaps?

[inner spade]

https://github.com/CedarGroveStudios/SevenSeg_font

6 pt is the smallest

[sand lotus]

yeah i really like that font for this application.

[upper sandal]

I'm not an artist, so I'm not gonna spend one more hour on that, I think it came out nicely though

yup

ah I forgot to add a sweat drop on the octopus, maybe that would be too anime though 😅

[sand lotus]

it's a nintendo game though, fits. 😛

[proper prawn]

Thank you Time, have a nice weekend and enjoy next week Friday with your wife.

[sand lotus]

great stream, i learned a lot as always with your streams. 👋

[upper sandal]

👋

[upper sandal]

I made a V2 with more tentacles, and a few adjustments

[scenic sentinel]

I ordered one from them last week. It came in the mail and works great

[open girder]

live in 10 mins - Desk of Ladyada - Metro Mini Redux + Some Sensors https://youtu.be/UO-sVLsC_rE

WE ARE LIVE! Desk of Ladyada - Metro Mini Redux + Some Sensors https://youtu.be/UO-sVLsC_rE

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[lilac tusk]

Hey 👋

[upper sandal]

[lilac tusk]

New metro mini!

CP2102N for new version?

I did pick up the 2102N 20QFN variant the other day

Specifically for this feather I’m making

USB C mega 😄

32VQFN?

Ohhh 28QFN

This was my feeling when I dropped a 1mm x 1mm RGB LED lol

Except that is much bigger lol

20kHz 🤔

That’s weird, I was totally thinking a breathalyzer for that sensor

Lol

[cinder wind]

With that VOC sensor, I can finally make my Snooty Wine Feather! "Sensor initialized: Detecting hints of raspberry and traces of chocolate. Probably Two Buck Chuck. "

[lilac tusk]

Part shortage 🎶 do do 🎶

[open girder]

@cinder wind finally 🙂 https://blog.adafruit.com/2018/12/09/what-is-open-source-its-wine-from-new-jersey-winemakersco_op-opensourcechardonnay/

[cinder wind]

ahahaha! also: https://www.wired.com/2008/08/spime-watch-win/

[lilac tusk]

There was a 3.3V buck I found a while ago and thought it was a great replacement and a month later I got end of life with no last time to buy. It was sad haha..

[viral sail]

Random Hacker Time came early today. Catching up on the show now.

[rapid hornet]

<@&846780953275006976> I'll be guest hosting deep dive this week since @smoky island will be on vacation. Let me know what we should talk about.

[sand lotus]

I enjoy watching you work on web workflow, really cool project, probably one of the most game changing projects happening at Adafruit right now.

[maiden lily]

I’ve been out of the loop so idk if it’s early or late but I’d be interested in a pico W circuit python deep dive

[cinder wind]

one idea: a walkthrough of how web workflow is supposed to work, so we can tell when things aren't working correctly

[left pier]

I was thinking of writing a GIST about getting started with web workflow (so I’d know) but a deep dive would be great.

[sand lotus]

also web workflow sounds a bit generic, wippersnapper is very specific in comparison. i think Newty Py has a nice ring to it.

half newt, half blinka for a logo. just putting that out there.

[rapid hornet]

it's a huge task. I can talk it over a bit but likely won't be the one working on it

[maiden lily]

Understandable. I’ll try to tune in and if I’m there I’ll mention it, maybe just to hear an overview of what would be involved! I’ve been getting back into some pico stuff so it’s nice to see how circuitpython is doing and it’s been really handy in a few recent projects

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[open surge]

hello!

[haughty quiver]

yeeeehaw!

[ionic garnet]

Heyyo

[tacit garnet]

3rd times the charm.

[glass stag]

Ahh, relaxing white noise

There is the beat we know an love.

[ionic garnet]

sounds like the buzz out of a non-grounded guitar amp

[haughty quiver]

?

[inner spade]

👋

[tacit garnet]

So John's a triple threat today?

[ionic garnet]

just some soft white noise prior to the music

[ivory flax]

Hey JP

[shell mason]

tripler you need

[cinder wind]

be sure to use coupon code TODBOT for absolutely no discount

[grand tusk]

I'd wear that t-shirt: "John Park told me where to go."

[haughty quiver]

"TODBOT" code for 2x the price!

[shell mason]

or "John Park told me what to get"

[cinder wind]

"buy 2, get both for same price!"

[shell mason]

"get 2 and pay for 1"

[sand lotus]

if you need practice soldering you'll get plenty of it.

[cinder wind]

I like these triplers with something like this: https://www.adafruit.com/product/2900 (it's a couple buttons and a display) and then you get another feather socket for your own circuit

[sand lotus]

i love soldering. putting that one together was a lot of fun.

[ionic garnet]

bought a couple. At that price well worth it

already have doubler and one tripler

[sand lotus]

yeah the feather TFT's fit perfectly in them.

[inner spade]

Another T-shirt: “Just one more better.”

[ionic garnet]

But have so many feathers and wings

(featherOrWing++)++

[waxen bough]

Feathers are very nice, but I have none, just different standalones. If I had feathers, I'd hop on this deal!

[sand lotus]

wow i've never even thought about adding your own stemma qt port on the proto area. what a great idea!

[tacit garnet]

So you've got a flock of feathers then?

[ionic garnet]

I have roughly 32 Feathers and wings!

[grand tusk]

I put a headphone jack on one.

[ionic garnet]

I have so many because I will be giving some to either programmers who work for me or giving out to interested kids and adults

[grand tusk]

So much brass...

[shadow epoch]

Some months I wish for a product pick of the week monthly bundle...

[ionic garnet]

lots of esp32s with and with TFT

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/jvd-joel-van-daal-thumbs-up-fallout76-power-armour-gif-14100520

[inner spade]

Here’s one triplerizing.

[inland apex]

did LadyAda ever make the quadruplerer?

[tacit garnet]

Contemplating product naming, multiple feathers go on wings in nature. So the board feather and wing labels are swapped.

[verbal river]

I have no need for a FeatherWing. Unless @proper trench comes up with a "Eurorack FeatherWing"... 🤔

[ionic garnet]

I have with RP2040, Airlift Feather wing, and one of the music makers on one 3-bee

[shell mason]

quadler

[ionic garnet]

has anyone used the small proto space?

[sand lotus]

oh i have an example

[grand tusk]

I put different applications on different feathers, kinda like cartridges.

...plug and go.

[sand lotus]

instead of adding the stacking header pins you can add pogo pins for quick solderless mockups.

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[open surge]

thanks JP, good show!

[glass stag]

Great show.

[ionic garnet]

As always, JP took my money again 😉

[glass stag]

Have a good day.

[ionic garnet]

bye John!

[inner spade]

Thanks! Triple-fast show today!

[ionic garnet]

Triple crown in brevity

[inland apex]

Just seeing @haughty quiver s board, I think it would be really cool if Adafruit did an advent calendar with a different breakout board for each day

[haughty quiver]

fun!

[ivory flax]

Thanks enjoyed the show

[tacit garnet]

Until we meet again

[sand lotus]

picked up a triple and quad. combined with AAE 10% off code, got a new batch of goodies coming. Thanks JP. ❤️

including multi-colored step switches because a man can dream.

[open girder]

SHOW and TELL 8/3/2022 TONIGHT at 7:30pm ET with special guest Adam Savage and Jen Schachter !!!!

https://youtu.be/JlO6WxxSU-I

August 27-28, 2022
SiliCon 2022 at the San Jose Convention Center
Savage MakerVerse
https://siliconsj.com/makerverse
https://siliconsj.com/

Use code ADAFRUIT to get 15% off tickets for SiliCon with Adam Savage. Visit https://www.siliconsj.com/ for more info! Adafruit does not get compensated for the sales in any way! We are helping Adam and team getting the word out for this event for Makers!

#SiliCon2022

[tulip canyon]

I got here early so I could get a good seat

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful people!

[upbeat coral]

Me too

[open surge]

good evening!

[nova totem]

Evening everyone!

[ionic garnet]

Hi all

[lime falcon]

Hello!

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/cj6bkizzd5

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[ionic garnet]

Always excited for Show and Tell

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! SHOW and TELL https://youtu.be/JlO6WxxSU-I

[grand tusk]

Behold, the sign of the duck.

[ionic garnet]

Mr Adam Savage

[rapid hornet]

👋

[lime falcon]

I'll be at SiliCon - hoping to see a lot of other makers there

[inner spade]

👋

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[open surge]

Quite a group going!

[ionic garnet]

I heard her say "booze" but I think she said "booths"

[waxen thistle]

This sounds rad.

[smoky island]

👋

[robust horizon]

is NASA hiring? Asking for a friend. 🧑‍🚀

[verbal river]

Hi Jen

[ionic garnet]

darn I used to live in San Jose. Boston is far away!

[verbal river]

I posted a pic of a Jen-based project in #show-and-tell

[waxen thistle]

Does this friend's name rhyme with "Clef Pepper"?

[robust horizon]

Why not fly out for the week-end? I'm ... tempted

[smoky island]

https://siliconsj.com/

[nova totem]

It would be an amazing weekend

[ionic garnet]

We must unit all the geeks, nerds, makers, cosplayers in the world

[cinder wind]

yay Adam!

[robust horizon]

Find ways to make more positive-sum games

[upbeat coral]

Wow, all my gods in one screen

[ionic garnet]

we used to do that at Jibo and you could use a robot and anything else related to producing the product. Amazing stuff

[robust horizon]

Is that a Carmen Sandiego outfit in the background?

[ionic garnet]

looks like it

[upbeat coral]

Live Wong and Prosper

[waxen thistle]

I heard she put the Miss in misdemeanor when she stole the beans from Lima....

[grand tusk]

Where is that German soccer team?

[waxen thistle]

Your projects are absolutely amazing @lethal lagoon! Thank you for inspiring so many people.

[inner spade]

@lethal lagoon : The printed wig looks like retro future Erte!

[upbeat coral]

I thought she was trying to make her own Lady Ada.

[waxen thistle]

❤️ ❤️

[robust horizon]

Urban legend: Before they came up with the final name of "Fred Flintstone", the character was going to be named "Adam Savage".

[nova totem]

LEDs are always fun

[waxen thistle]

I still have Digikey's make-your-own-photo-button from MakerFaire 🙂

[ionic garnet]

Phil in natural habitat

[tulip canyon]

Spot the werewolf?

[cinder wind]

ahahah can't wait for random kids asking random wearwolves "do you have a Adafruit swag?"

[ionic garnet]

if it weren't for pretty neopixel LEDs, I would have fewer recreational hobbies

this guy looks familiar

[grand tusk]

who dat?

[ionic garnet]

I love @haughty quiver's musical things!

[nova totem]

I need to try some 3d scanning. These come out so good

[ionic garnet]

I like the effort

I go to MANY museums. Major interest of mine

Boston, New York, San Francisco, L.A., Paris, Amsterdam, London... I love museums

[nova totem]

What museums do, with the budget many are given is crazy

[ionic garnet]

indeed. Creative people

[waxen thistle]

Experience history by making it yourself.

[ionic garnet]

or look at Ukraine or other places where art was destroyed on purpose

art must be preserved

That's kiddo's dad!

NICE

[tulip canyon]

EXTRA_SHOW!

[haughty quiver]

@rocky reef love the low poly look of those!

[lethal lagoon]

ahh thank you so much Bruce!!!

[ionic garnet]

This is the way

[lethal lagoon]

ahh yes! Erte is a huge inspiration for me!

[robust horizon]

wow that looks amazing in the cover photo (no surprise there)

[smoky island]

Exception information in the titlebar is a really neat feature that can make troubleshooting even easier 🎉

[robust horizon]

I did not know who Erte was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erté

[ionic garnet]

or those contortionists who make shapes with people

[rapid hornet]

(I've got a couple boards I need to get the code to fit into for the title bard)

[nova totem]

That looks great @robust horizon I love these camera projects

[cinder wind]

whoa that's awesome @robust horizon !

[open surge]

@robust horizon that camera work is awesome!

[light stump]

📸!

[waxen thistle]

Now that's a Kodak moment.

[cinder wind]

is this on main? I'd like to see what's it's like on the ESP32S2 TFT Feather!

[haughty quiver]

cpy dev basically

[ionic garnet]

I love @split gazelle 's music stuff too!

[waxen thistle]

A phrase I didn't know existed but now I can't live without: "Skull sandwich"

[open girder]

ask an engineer will start a few mins late this week, BIG SHOW AND TELL 🙂

[rapid hornet]

not yet. just pushed it to my title_execution_status branch

[robust horizon]

a few more pics of the camera (& my messsy desk)

[haughty quiver]

Yes, USB-Host plz!

[rapid hornet]

will hopefully clean it up and get it PRed tomorrow or friday

[nova totem]

That looks so great @split gazelle

[ionic garnet]

this is the best time to be alive that ever was

[haughty quiver]

💀

[lethal lagoon]

such a great design @split gazelle

[lime falcon]

@split gazelle I LOVE the jacks inside the eyes!!!

[cinder wind]

skull sandwich is best CV sandwich

[ionic garnet]

I want one Joey

[split gazelle]

thanks everyone! 😺💀

[robust horizon]

is time going backwards for anyone else right now?

[haughty quiver]

yes. yes. yes. yes.

[lime falcon]

Joey's Remoticon talk on getting a custom LCD made is absolutely amazing and worth a watch

[waxen thistle]

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey....

[nova totem]

Really cool seeing how Joey put this together on twitter. You could follow the whole development

[cinder wind]

yeah Joey's twitter feed has been so great to see this evolve and learn stuff!

[smoky island]

Entries for the Hack Tablet giveaway initial drawing will close at the end of Ask An Engineer tonight. The details and entry form link are here: https://gist.github.com/FoamyGuy/642358cf5c8193b2b4b4704d10f021c6. The initial drawing will occur later tonight after the shows.

[robust horizon]

oh hi @lime falcon I feel like it's been a little while

[open girder]

@smoky island they are here and we'll "unbox" them on ask an engineer 🙂

thank you @light stump

[cinder wind]

Yay another fan of the Xiao nrf52840 QTpy-sized boards!

[lethal lagoon]

gorgeous as always @lime falcon !

[lime falcon]

Thank you! I'm so looking forward to seeing you and everything you're bringing to SiliCon!

[smoky island]

Being able to make any project remote controlled with a smartphone without having to make the app for it is so amazing. 📱

[nova totem]

https://www.hackster.io/markkomus/electronic-googly-eye-glasses-379a13

[robust horizon]

What a wonderful program tonight. 😻 you all

[tulip canyon]

Thank you all wonderful maker friends

[waxen thistle]

Thanks everyone for sharing! You all are amazing people for making this a better world, one project at a time.

[haughty quiver]

awesome projects! thanks all!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you to all for sharing your time with us.

[open surge]

good show, thanks all!

[lethal lagoon]

I'm so excited to see you and your projects too! ahh!

Awesome show, thanks everyone for sharing, and thanks for having me on @open girder !

[nova totem]

Great show tonight

[smoky island]

Great projects tonight. Thanks for sharing everyone 🎉

[split gazelle]

amazing projects everyone!

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 8/2/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/8OKUKICkOZc

[slow spire]

Hi, all!

[cinder wind]

Makerverse is like a Multiverse, but with soldering irons

[dim knot]

https://siliconsj.com/makerverse/

[open girder]

Use code ADAFRUIT to get 15% off tickets for SiliCon with Adam Savage. Visit https://www.siliconsj.com for more info! Adafruit does not get compensated for the sales in any way! We are helping Adam and team getting the word out for this event for Makers!

[thorn oasis]

pink is objectively the best color

[verbal river]

Yeah, I think I heard a song about that part shortage.

[urban gale]

I'll also be attending Weird Al's SillyCon

[waxen thistle]

I have to ask, is that a real thing? Please say yes.

[urban gale]

sadly no

[cinder wind]

noooo the songggggg nooooo

[stiff remnant]

chip shortage is my favourite segment

[inner spade]

"Please sir, we want more -- chips"

[upper sandal]

"I'll draw you a chip, but it's in a box"

[dim knot]

CircuitPython? https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/what-is-circuitpython

[open surge]

it's going to be fun!

[tulip canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/seven-brad-pitt-box-whats-in-the-box-gif-3386206

[cinder wind]

Hack the Tablet! /hackers

[waxen thistle]

🐿️ chipmunks actually. Alvin, Simon, and Theodore.

[viral sail]

I have one of those box openers. One of my best Adafruit purchases.

[smoky island]

Entries for the Hack Tablet giveaway initial drawing will close at the end of Ask An Engineer tonight. The details and entry form link are here: https://gist.github.com/FoamyGuy/642358cf5c8193b2b4b4704d10f021c6. The initial drawing will occur later tonight after the shows. There's still time if you want to enter!

[open surge]

@light stump Nice level of detail!

[nova totem]

@light stump Great job on the tablets. Those look amazing

[slow spire]

Wow. That's an ESP32, not a pi?!

[open surge]

ya

[light stump]

ESP32-S3

[cinder wind]

ESP32 running CircuitPython I believe

[thorn oasis]

esp32-s3 is lots of fun, i just wish it had bluetooth classic as well

[light stump]

Yep running CircuitPython

[waxen thistle]

Very nice @light stump! Thanks to you and @smoky island for making this a reality.

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[viral sail]

Making lamps with 3d printed museum relics -> paleo pixels

[robust horizon]

@light stump @smoky island OK you wow'd Limor with your demo .. what's next

[light stump]

Glad it worked. Was sweating…

[robust horizon]

I think that skull might haunt me tonight

[smoky island]

The community wow's all of us with what they make with them 🎉

[slow spire]

Nice!

[smoky island]

🔎 Red NeoTrellisM4's in one of those shots maybe?

[robust horizon]

does that video show the board being pick & place'd partially on machine #1 and then the rest on machine #2?

I guess it increases throughput since the line goes straight through both?

[nova totem]

I have to try these scans on models my friend makes (and wants 3d scans of). We never did have much success previously

[slow spire]

Oh my; if Noe and Pedro get me to use Blender without too much frustration, I'll be amazed.

[velvet mulch]

2 Questions re: ubobtainum

1. Any news on Jetson Nanos?
2. Because BNO055 is unobtainium, but 085s are available, I’m planning to extend the 085 cp library to simulate some of the 055 methods: e.g. euler orientation. If so do you think the community would be interested in me sharing?

[tulip canyon]

Blender is great, I've learned it every year for over 20 years

It also has a native decimate feature

[slow spire]

@velvet mulch I'd try checking https://hwlocator.com regularly. Also https://octopart.com.

[tulip canyon]

I still want to set altitude to clibrate

[cinder wind]

so I guess no one uses MeshLab anymore for remeshing

[slow spire]

@cinder wind Looks like it's still around. https://github.com/cnr-isti-vclab/meshlab

[nova totem]

am I the only one who just had "Under Pressure" pop into their head? 🎶

[velvet mulch]

Weird, I suddenly started thinking of Vanilla Ice

[shy topaz]

Is there a vacuum sensor?

[cinder wind]

yeah I still have it on my computer and use it to remesh STLs too complex for Fusion

[autumn turret]

Manufacturers making it easy for people to consume and integrate their products at last? Inconceivable! 🤯

Almost like Adafruit was onto something

[waxen thistle]

That DC adapter kit!

[jovial idol]

😍

[autumn turret]

Gadzooks!

[dim knot]

30 Piece 5.5 / 2.1mm to DC Barrel Jack Adapter Kit https://www.adafruit.com/product/5474

[nova totem]

Reminds me of those screw driver sets

[autumn turret]

I think one of those is the same as I've seen on a Lenovo laptop

[tulip canyon]

I ❤️ USB-C

[autumn turret]

Yep, that's the Lenovo

[ionic garnet]

yes that's Lenovo

[verbal river]

we all recognize it 🙂

[tulip canyon]

Ericsson?

[slow spire]

LOL!!

[shy topaz]

Are the connecters labeled as to size?

[slow spire]

Zaurus!!

[autumn turret]

Device manufacturer: Time to come up with a new non-standard device. Let's make it look like a tri-wing screw!

[slow spire]

@shy topaz In the product description

[dim knot]

Shrouded Servo to Premium Male Jumper Wires Cable - 17cm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5515

[autumn turret]

Ooooh, nice

[dim knot]

Shrouded Servo to Alligator Clip Cable - 17cm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5514

JST-XH Extension Cable - 2.5mm Pitch - 500mm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5497

[slow spire]

@open girder Just had an idea when I saw the $0.95 servo adapter. An Adafruit dollar store section!

[dim knot]

Step Switch with LED - Three Pack of Black with Red LED - PB86 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5502

Step Switch with LED - Three Pack of Red Plastic with Red LED - PB86-A1 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5499

Step Switch with LED - Three Pack of Green with Red LED - PB86 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5518

Step Switch with LED - Three Pack of White with Red LED - PB86 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5519

[cinder wind]

oh man there's black and white ones now

[autumn turret]

aka "Pad your cart for freebies" section!

[nova totem]

I mean who of us does that - besides literally all of us

[dim knot]

Blue Micro Potentiometer Knob - 4 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5536

Brown Micro Potentiometer Knob - 4 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5540

Violet Micro Potentiometer Knob - 4 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5537

Green Micro Potentiometer Knob - 4 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5535

[robust horizon]

just get violet. it's the right one

[slow spire]

Pretty violet knobs! I need these. For something.

[dim knot]

LCD FeatherWing from Oddly Specific Objects https://www.adafruit.com/product/5581

[cinder wind]

Limor's away, post black-n-white photos

[open girder]

hah

totally

[nova totem]

B&W photos fit for a LCD screen

[open girder]

it's art time

🙂

[cinder wind]

yes plz

[urban gale]

that is hecka cool

[autumn turret]

Very cool looking product. Great stuff Joey!

[stiff remnant]

nice touch with the extra little symbols on the display

[slow spire]

Was reading about this; you can just print to it in CircuitPython

[autumn turret]

Woah, really? Clever!

[indigo crane]

Hi. I am new to this community and have limited knowledge of electronics but Im learning. I have a project in mind and have been on the adafruit site and I'm having a hard time narrowing down the board I need. Is there somewhere on the site or this forum that could point me in a direction that would help me narrow down what I need?

[light stump]

📺

[slow spire]

@autumn turret https://oddlyspecificobjects.com/products/lcdwing/

[river peak]

Ah, so they go through a screening process

[cinder wind]

booooo hahaha

[slow spire]

@indigo crane What are you making?

[turbid hill]

Question: Can the step switch have it's led changed to a different color

[nova totem]

This may help: https://learn.adafruit.com/choose-your-circuitpython-board

[velvet mulch]

Thanks!

[echo canopy]

Question for the show @open girder

Is the Adafruit APDS9960 going to be okay to sense if a red led is illuminating with color detection? Or is the board better for seeing reflection off of a item?

[indigo crane]

I want to use a motion sensor that will send a signal either to my phone or my google nest hub. It needs to run on a battery and but i would like to use a solar panel to keep it charged.

[slow spire]

can work up close

[slow spire]

https://forums.adafruit.com

[cinder wind]

You can pop them apart by hand and replace the LED but yeah labor intensive

[indigo crane]

Thank you

[waxen thistle]

Thanks @open girder for another excellent evening of shows!

[open surge]

good show! thank you

[turbid hill]

ok cool thanks @cinder wind

[autumn turret]

Thanks adafruit and community! ❤️

[nova totem]

Great shows, long stretch to do without a real break!

[slow spire]

Thx, @open girder!

[ionic garnet]

thanks @open girder -- a wonderful night of cool stuff

[tulip canyon]

Wednesdays are awesome. Thanks Adafruit and community

[urban gale]

Thanks Adafruit and good night all!

[light stump]

Thanks all y’all cool people! 👋

[dim knot]

https://siliconsj.com/makerverse/

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌒

[cinder wind]

yay @light stump with remote live demo working flawlessly

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for sharing your time with us.

[jovial idol]

have a good night!

[smoky island]

I'm off to print strips and prepare for the selection for the first few tablets. Will post links here in a bit and do initial drawings on stream.

[smoky island]

Alright, first few tablet winners will be selected now on stream watch along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O3XwDCZZaY

Also reminder that the final selection for the remaining two tablets will be 8/26th. If you haven't entered and still want the chance be sure to enter before the final drawing.

[open surge]

Just me watching, c'mon folks!

[light stump]

Sounds is good. On twitch.

[nova totem]

I'm watching on YT 🙂

[open surge]

That's what i get for going to Youtube

Yay winners!

[thorn oasis]

sorry

[light stump]

Congratulations! Can’t wait to see what folks can make with this. Hope they all work out of the box as shown on TV.

[thorn oasis]

i got a little excited

i think i won

[light stump]

Have a great night y’all!👋

[thorn oasis]

have a good one!

[smoky island]

Thanks all. Have a good night everyone. 👋

[light stump]

I agree, these box openers are great. And for cutting tape, these coated scissors from the same company have been life altering: https://www.hasegawacutlery.com/canary/155/

[smoky island]

Their "Cardboard Saw" knives https://www.hasegawacutlery.com/canary/327/ are amazing too. We got one of these a few years ago and I use it all the time for cutting up cardboard boxes. Once you get the right sawing motion down it cuts through like butter.

[light stump]

Mine lives stuck to a magnet near the front door. Good for opening packages and also we’re prepared to fend off an apocalyptic zombie attack.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3929

[inner spade]

At first glance, thought it was the result of practice for your knife-throwing act.🎪

[lavish patrol]

Greetings, good people.

[sand lotus]

👋

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-formation-weaving-pattern-optical-illusion-art-gif-17167300

[lavish patrol]

Here's your daily Lars. (As seen from the Moon)

[sand lotus]

maybe JP waiting on another print? 😛

[shell mason]

lars on center of my gif could be mesmerizing

[sand lotus]

do it

[open surge]

👋

[inner spade]

👋

[haughty quiver]

hi all!

[lavish patrol]

Bleeps and Bloops are on!

[ionic garnet]

Hello all

[shell mason]

the assembly party is going in Helsinki the computer festival so asmparty gifs is in order

https://tenor.com/view/chromatic-orb-gif-19630502

[ionic garnet]

All my 4pm ET meetings somehow got canceled today!

[split gazelle]

Good afternoon folks

[shell mason]

party too on park workshop cool

[sand lotus]

awww no demo crashing today? less exciting but better for learn guides 😛

[ionic garnet]

Disco era was underratted and attacked by closed minded critics. Plus some did stink.

BeeGees = Mastercraftsmen

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/vaporwave-gif-11920869

[sand lotus]

disco when mentioned in tech is generally short for disconnect not ABBA

[ionic garnet]

I am looking into infinitity

[shell mason]

pico party

[lavish patrol]

Three times the fun. 😀

[shell mason]

Lars Tripler

[split gazelle]

Oh my gawd I need

[shell mason]

oh my posh is cool for console

[inner spade]

Press button 4! Press button 4!

[cinder wind]

yay! what a great use for those buttons

[glass stag]

I would start streaming, just to use the button board.

[shell mason]

if it have rgb led it could be neat to have like different for how many you pressed

[ionic garnet]

I had a couple of those triplers, doublers, and today I will receive 2 new ones I bought tues!

[spiral vale]

late to the party!

[ionic garnet]

I don't fully grok how I would use those stp switches but should just order some

[verbal river]

The blue ones match my modular synth so I ordered some. I'll figure out something to do with them. 😆

[ionic garnet]

now the party can get started

[sand lotus]

Do orange step switches exist and/or will they be coming?

Only color I'm really missing...

[inner spade]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5499

[verbal river]

they remind me of the Prophet 5

[sand lotus]

I got blue's to replace orange...

[ionic garnet]

I'm primarily a guitar player but sometimes I pump guitar dry DI input or straight analog from pre-amped mic, but I don't do synths much these days. I do every decade or so though

[sand lotus]

because they come in packs of 3 you have to order 2 packs to get 4 of the same color.

[cinder wind]

I think I first saw those switches on a Prophet 5 synth

[ionic garnet]

The 808 is a masterpiece

[verbal river]

yeah me too

[sand lotus]

yeah i have no problem that they're smaller, will still function in the same way for a replica.

[inner spade]

To ask an obvious question, have you popped the cap to see if the LED could be hacked, @haughty quiver ?

[sand lotus]

yes it can be changed...

[ionic garnet]

Not only can you dream, you can modify your perception of reality

[sand lotus]

someone posted an image yesterday where they disassembled one and changed the led color, need to find the right size of LED is all.

finding a protoboard that's compatible with the weird pin configuration is pretty nice. makes it doable and potentially modular.

[spiral vale]

How do these switches FEEL?

[sand lotus]

like clicky mx's

[inner spade]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4785

[sand lotus]

but they're on a lever so one side of the key goes down farther than the other like you would expect with a piano key for example

[spiral vale]

(feel as compared to the prophet or roland gear I suppose)

[shell mason]

[sand lotus]

close up of that wiring is going to be required (very helpful) for a learn guide for the step switches.

when i have time i'm going to make a custom 16 key PCB for these switches because... it has to be done. 🙂

eventually will get paired up to the steps on a VST sequencer. That's when it'll get really impressive. Generally 16 key steps for a classic sequencer.

[cinder wind]

if you charlieplex'd the LEDs in Arduino, you could do more of these LED switches

[sand lotus]

board will need a multiplexer?

[cinder wind]

https://github.com/todbot/circuitpython-tricks#set-up-and-debounce-a-list-of-pins

[lavish patrol]

Danish Kroner, I think... 🤔

[sand lotus]

with a potentiometer like on a macropad for example, you could use switch to step series 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 14-16. don't necessarily need 16 keys but it makes it easier when working with a VST.

[glass stag]

Ooo, that list is a great idea.

[inner spade]

The curse of the live demo, USB edition.

[lavish patrol]

Lol. A random Queen appears.

[sand lotus]

great implementation for hotkeys

[cinder wind]

The "U" in USB stands for "Usuallyworks"

[lavish patrol]

I thought it was "Unintelligible"...

[sand lotus]

hotkey pro, hid keys can do a lot when you get into it.

one touch keys for anything from turning on lights to sending updates to adafruitIO or IFTTT, etc.. they're really dynamic.

[spiral vale]

JP is off his rocker

[cinder wind]

don't even need to remove that little middle part to replace the LED

[sand lotus]

always something cool on JP's workshop, he's like an inspiration station.

[lavish patrol]

Looks gold plated,

[clever summit]

Bah. Late to the party. Please restart stream JP!

[lavish patrol]

@clever summit Lol. And good evening.

[clever summit]

Good Evening mr. Callaway. And all chat really.

[inner spade]

Can they be placed closer to each other? Vertically, horizontally?

[verbal river]

Thanks for showing this. I've ordered some of those switches but I'd rather have blue LEDs in them.

[cinder wind]

to replace LED, remove the lever, but not the plastic under the lever

oh! even without the lever removed! nice

[spiral vale]

Be Kind, Rewind

[split gazelle]

Great stream!

[lavish patrol]

Great workshop again, @haughty quiver 👍

[open surge]

thanks JP!

[verbal river]

Bye

[cinder wind]

these LEDs should fit I think https://www.adafruit.com/product/4202

[lavish patrol]

Bye.

[clever summit]

👋

[glass stag]

Great show @haughty quiver , thanks.

[haughty quiver]

thanks everyone!

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[agile gate]

Hi all, I am hoping to do a show and tell next week. Do I need to share the project and get approved or is it first come first served every week? Thanks

[upper sandal]

you pretty much only need to grab the streamyard link when it's posted before the show

[upper sandal]

you can still share in #show-and-tell if you want, but that's not related to access to the show

[agile gate]

@upper sandal Thanks for the information.

[rapid hornet]

starting shortly! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN88sM6eQQs

[unreal bay]

It is gonna get hot in here. Hi Scott

[upper sandal]

[viral sail]

Good afternoon @rapid hornet

[ionic garnet]

Hi Scott! @rapid hornet

we hear you

[inner spade]

👋

[brazen grove]

guete abig

[odd zodiac]

hello from cornwall

[ionic garnet]

My name is pronounced "Reesch" according to my Latin American programmers!

[shell mason]

good to see you scott

[modern night]

heyo, I've got to dip out but I hope everyone's having a good day and has a great weekend

[inland apex]

Hey Scott!

[sterile forge]

Hello Scott

[ionic garnet]

the rpi2-pico-w aka Pico W

[left needle]

Good afternoon Scott.

[ionic garnet]

I was not joking they pronouce it that way, but your pronouciation

was correct

I understand about more paternity leave @rapid hornet . I took something like a year in total but 5 months first year and half a year at 2nd grade

[inland apex]

As a father of 3, just embrace the sleep deprivation. It doesn't get much better 😄

[ionic garnet]

it's a once in a lifetime opportunity

the circuitpython core team and other volunteers are super helpful on forums or discord

I get sleep deprevation from my job for all 40 years!

[proper prawn]

Hi Scott and all present!

[inland apex]

"A Fool Sleeps When He's Tired, A Wise Man Sleeps When He Can"

[unreal bay]

@rapid hornet Whats exciting you recently in the world of micropython that your keen to try or adopt into circuitpython?

[ionic garnet]

That's it. It's not dictated by my employers, the sleep deprivation is caused by constant flow of creative ideas

[ionic garnet]

that's what they teach military soldiers (I wouldn't know from experience)

I am diving deep into it for adding the Pico-W port

^^ micropython latest

[left pier]

👋

[brazen grove]

if we could do usb mtp, then we could use any filesystem we wanted

if only Apple supported it

[ionic garnet]

list comprehensions are the bomb!

look into zip/unzip too for certain list/tuple/iterables support

[sterile forge]

Do we have a tiny webserver?

[ionic garnet]

yes examples in ESP devicea

[brazen grove]

I wonder if ondiskbitmap would be faster then too?

[unreal bay]

Oh its so good, the wsgi server, I've got an access point running a webserver controlling a boat. Joystick on webpage

[ionic garnet]

I still want interrupt support! But you've explained the challenges before. But other's might want to know @rapid hornet in CP

[unreal bay]

Did have to patch wsgi server to support getting ipv4_address_ap if ipv4_addreas empty

[upper sandal]

there's the wokwi emulator 🤷

[brazen grove]

@strange rain is working on running mp in a browser with wasm

[upper sandal]

https://wokwi.com/projects/new/circuitpython-pi-pico?template=circuitpython-pi-pico

[upper sandal]

my port ?

[unreal bay]

Yeah

[left pier]

Is that just to prove they can do it or is there a use case for that?

[unreal bay]

Planned to clean up my project and test further before patch/pull request, but got distracted last few days

[upper sandal]

I'd like to retire it in favor of adafruit_webserver, and for that make sure that the differences in features are ported to it if necessary

but I need to finish my web workflow and circup work first before I take on another million projects at the same time

[ionic garnet]

Question: when building CP, what build chain and OS/machine type? I know there's a learn guide, but curious on your workflow @rapid hornet Answer when you get a chance

Got it

[inland apex]

I've been building CP on a Macbook Pro just fine in recent weeks!

[left pier]

I've been on an M1 Mac Mini for a long time. I just got an M2 Macbook Air (last night) and I've not done a build yet ..

[ionic garnet]

I have a 2015 Intel MacBook Pro, A lenovo from same time frame, and many RPis. And an MacBook Air M1 2020 first gen

[nova totem]

My desktop sometimes fails at cooling itself off. So random too

[upper sandal]

if you had gotten an M1 mac you wouldn't have that issue of burning your lap 😉

[ionic garnet]

yes. I got M1 because I didn't want my lap burnt anymore

[unreal bay]

How is that qtpy connected, just usb?

[ionic garnet]

But it fails on a lot of language builds if they require virtualized Linux which don't work so good

^^^ the MacBook Air M1

[nova totem]

I did get new thermal paste, just have to take the time to redo it

[ionic garnet]

anyone successfully build CP from source on M1 mac

[grand tusk]

Any plans to add .devcontainer support for building CircuitPython?

[brazen grove]

they want an online PewPew simulator

[left pier]

That makes sense now

[brazen grove]

https://twitter.com/isziaui/status/1553764336945987584

Christian Walther (@isziaui)

PewPew game running on #MicroPython in the browser! It kinda works, but it’s pretty unstable.

Twitter · Jul 31, 2022, 3:27 PM

[ionic garnet]

@rapid hornet in case you missed, are you aware of anyone building CP from scratch on M1 Mac?

[left pier]

I do.

Many others as well.

[ionic garnet]

Thank you. I prefer to work on my MBA M1 because it's connected to my work desk and 32" external moniror and backup disks and many peripherals and at least one Adafruit CP board

[wind spoke]

Aargh, in vacation and poor WiFi, I will have to watch the recording. 😭

[ionic garnet]

I use MDNS for all kinds of local devices such as wled ESP32s, RPi's, SBC's. I also reserve static IPs for most important device

Bonjour has a windows ver too

[storm swan]

Heya Scott, good morning/afternoon 🙂

[ionic garnet]

UDP = socket send and pray, TCP = session, assures sequenced arrival

[brazen quail]

How feasible is it to put a USB mux in front of a couple of CP's ? (for multimaster USB bus to desktop GUI)

[ionic garnet]

many times MDNS should be blocked!

for security reasons

[storm swan]

Bit bleary-eyed but glad I could make it!

[unreal bay]

But is discovery via mdns only?

Of other devices

[sand lotus]

👋

[brazen quail]

Multimaster usb for fault tolerance and/or lower power setup.

[storm swan]

I love my ODROID-Go, I'm a little salty Hard Kernel discontinued them!

[sand lotus]

wow it's real time, that's amazing.

[inland apex]

Got some new css coming for the serial page soon. Will be a little easier on the eyes.

[ionic garnet]

Doing reserved IP for the DNS lookup works well and low tech for creating findable devices. Look in your router console and find the MAC address of the desired perm address devives, then create a scheme for what range of devices will be within the size of the subnetwork (between 1..254 typically). This is very inexpensive and 100% effective as long as the ranges are well defined and some mapping is maintain where you manage the router

[upper sandal]

I'll look into it to see if it can react to ctrl-D and ctrl-C on mac, that's so much simpler 😉

[shell mason]

someone did a real wild demo compo entry to assembly summer 2022 using oDroid and it was cool

[upper sandal]

by the way, the things I've been doing with the web workflow are testable here (open workflow.html in a local server) you need a board running the web workflow of course
https://github.com/Neradoc/circuitpython-web-packager
(the password management is clunky, type it on the first tab)

[sand lotus]

weak signal is a user/AP problem though, out of scope for troubleshooting from controller land.

CSS all the things!

[ionic garnet]

In my household of 2 (all 4 combined kids flew the coop), I have a solumn duty: Friday night dinner (typically pizza or takeaway food). The relevance here: I will not get to stay. So glad to see you again @rapid hornet and thanks for the guidance on my new PIco-W support project.

east coaster

Oh year, I will need some help. Just want to get some grunt work done

[storm swan]

There is the PocketSprite if folks are looking for an ESP32-powered handheld game device (though it's ridiculously small!)
https://pocketsprite.com/

[upper sandal]

is it mounted ?

[sand lotus]

congrats on the leave though just in the past without seeing you in github updates in dev channel. like.. your presence not being there is missed for sure.

[upper sandal]

yeah, "dev build" as they say 😉

[brazen grove]

it has a bit small screen though

there is the kittenbot's meowbit, the pimoroni's picosystem, and adafruits pyboards and pygamer that all run circuitpython

and my own pewpew m4 too

[ionic garnet]

just realized I can continue listening on my 15 min round trip to pizza joint. Yay YouTube on iPhone. I pick up rather have delivery because I like hot pizza

[brazen grove]

@rapid hornet the meowbit works very well, it even runs Stage and PewPew games

[unreal bay]

Fatal amount of clicking

[storm swan]

Yeah, they're all great too @brazen grove (I especially like the PicoSystem), was just suggesting an Odroid alternative ie ESP32-powered

[brazen grove]

and of course you can always go homebrew, with any of the displays and a bunch of buttons, and a small box...

[upper sandal]

byt the way the icons don't display right, how about replacing them with legit emojis ?

[sand lotus]

since the devices are on usb (usually) or wifi is there are way to pull the timestamp from the PC (other than bluetooth) or maybe even from a router or would just doing adafruitIO NTP type service be best for time sync for web workflow devices?

[brazen grove]

it's much easier than people expect

[upper sandal]

like replace them with 📁, 📄 and 🌐 (though discord will replace them with its own things here, but I mean the emojis)

[inland apex]

how does it handle index.html files? Will it load it as the default page?

[upper sandal]

no, it's just navigating, not serving files like an apache server or stuff

[ionic garnet]

yes using NTP

[sand lotus]

currently just running on monotonic kind of thing?

[storm swan]

I've been wanting to add a more complete NTP solution for a long time...

[upper sandal]

you are using unicode characters that are not emojis, and they don't work on mac, and in fact they don't work on foamyguy's computer either I mean

[grand tusk]

??

[sand lotus]

i think some emjoi's are hex?

[upper sandal]

(they are valid unicode code points, not part of the emoji standard)

ok ok I'll just PR then

[sand lotus]

blinka is always a valid emoji 🙂

[upper sandal]

we can have them replaced with images with the cp.org CSS

[sand lotus]

[storm swan]

I'm looking more into Rich/Textual to improve the terminal appearance of mpremote...

[sand lotus]

yeah i saw that in the title bar, that's awesome and a great idea.

[ionic garnet]

I wish there was option to remove Blinka

[brazen grove]

there is

[upper sandal]

you can remove it from displayio with display.root_group stuff

[sand lotus]

that's one bad thing i've noticed in some ide's, maybe it's github if it's not code quoted... where the code will actually come out as emoji's unwanted if your code has the same characters.

[shell mason]

displayio 🦙 ?

[unreal bay]

Its fantastic 👏

[ionic garnet]

thanks. It isn't the size, it's a desire to own the whole TFT for certain use cases

[unreal bay]

Now I'll take ssl hosted server please

[grand tusk]

Can I upload a file over http? Maybe I missed that part.

[brazen grove]

you own the whole screen as soon as you do a show with displayio

[left pier]

I'm making a build right now for the lolinc3 mini to see if the mDNS works on my network. 🤞

[sand lotus]

Q: Why is web workflow so awesome? 😛 I'm not using it yet but looking for an excuse to get into it but sooo many projects ahead first.

[timid plover]

great to watch the first hour live - will have to watch the rest on the recording - great to see you!

[upper sandal]

here's how I made it look (free with a ._ extended attributes file)

[inland apex]

I have to bounce - have a good evening all!

[left pier]

Hmm... not having the drive on a C3 is going to be hard...
Can we add params to the flashing process to build the .env?

[nova totem]

If SSL is built into the microcontroller may not be too hard to layer on top. But given the use of this (for now) I can see it not being top priority

[sand lotus]

have family visiting just wanted to stop in and say you're awesome, web workflow is awesome, keep up the great work!

[storm swan]

Oh, heads-up, Wemos seem to have an S3-based board about to be released - they submitted a board definition recently but aren't selling the device...yet

[unreal bay]

Yeah no ssl priority. I saw it worked in ussl on mpython in 6 but that module was renamed and then we got socketpool which made my attempt harder, no joy yet and other priorities

[upper sandal]

I don't know if we can even do ssl server, even with a self signed certificate ? (currently)

[grand tusk]

Nice that I can connect to the IP address if MDNS is being cranky.

[nova totem]

oh yeah good point... the cert

[upper sandal]

can't do let's encrypt in .local 😉

[unreal bay]

Love a tour

[storm swan]

Yes please to the tour 🙂

[left pier]

Dive !

Also this is helpful
https://docs.circuitpython.org/en/latest/docs/workflows.html#web

[nova totem]

maybe we just put rot13 on the stream, better then nothing right?

[sterile forge]

Well Network will be useful on bare metal pi

[upper sandal]

(I just pushed passw0rd as the default password 😉 )

oh we could load an external font from cp.org to make sure it has the icons

inb4 we have to add a GDPR popup 😁

[brazen grove]

nah, since adafruit is a us company, the esp32 counts as usa territory when the firmware is flashed

[storm swan]

httpie is a great tool for poking at API's like this too - particulary to see the headers nicely and send/receive JSON. Haven't used curl since finding it...

[left pier]

ha

[ionic garnet]

I'm back slice in hand

[upper sandal]

interestingly Melissa asked a workflow related question in dev 😉

[left pier]

So if you have a build from Main today and you put the .env file there on an ESP32-X board this should work.

[storm swan]

No, that was interesting, thanks @rapid hornet!

[unreal bay]

What cool things do you want to add, but have realised should be a separate module

[ionic garnet]

I didn't get enough for whole class

[storm swan]

I think if we were to add some compatibility for this in MP perhaps we'd implement it in MP (a lot of it is already in microdot)..? (thinking aloud)

[ionic garnet]

A thought: SSL support, the reason I thought it was so important because many APIs only accept SSL requests. I may have been guilty of starting that decades ago. But several alternatives are coming to mind. Maybe I will write up a blog post on solutions to this potential functionality gao

[storm swan]

My guess is that SSL will be important - and it is difficult to get right and consumes resources.

[left pier]

I have to go pick some one up. I'm looking forward to the rest of stream offline. Thanks Scott, great to see you back on the Dive.

[grand tusk]

I'll have to have it send the IP address using morse code on the dotstar (UM ProS3).

[storm swan]

I take it moduwebsocket wasn't useful?

[sage aspen]

I asked this on the #circuitpython-dev channel, but it's relevant here. I was looking at the web workflow circuitpython code, it doesn't look like there's a way to provide an offset in order to do partial file writes like we do with bluetooth. Would this be something that would be difficult to implement?

[ionic garnet]

yeah, but thoughts about average use cases provided some ideas

[sage aspen]

I am watching

👍

[unreal bay]

Range offset is amazing for download over slow wifi

[storm swan]

Range Requests may be useful there (adds an extra header)
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Range_requests

[ionic garnet]

I meant on restart download

[upper sandal]

I was wondering about doing partial downloads too when I check the board's libraries versions

[ionic garnet]

good for you. Family first

[upper sandal]

yeah it's quick enough for a microcontroller honnestly

[storm swan]

Excited for you to have a long break 🙂

[unreal bay]

It can be our Christmas present 🎁

[ionic garnet]

it;s always unrealiable because the entire web is duct taped together

web resuest that is

[grand tusk]

That's a nice looking UI.

[proper prawn]

When you were showing/explaining the contents of web_workflow.c then I saw that a certain linenumber was about 200 line higher than in the file I was watching locally. And I had just issued a fetch.

[ionic garnet]

First rule of web fight club: expect failure

[upper sandal]

ah that might be a bug 😛

[ionic garnet]

my htlm and css skills are non-existant, but I am very good at hiring people who live and breath it

[upper sandal]

I'm middle ground on CSS and JS, not super up to date to the last few years developments

[ionic garnet]

expecting failure is sadly a requirement of nearly all code.

[storm swan]

Have you guys synced with 1.19 yet? You can change the ">>>" prompt which is handy to identify which device you're on

[upper sandal]

that's gonna be for CP9

there's a mpy format change among other things

[ionic garnet]

you should take care of yourself @rapid hornet because you will be better able to support Arie (assumed spelling) and you partner. I love that you two parental units are working together to provide the best experience possible for the future compiler/language genius

[modern night]

does the watch have a heart rate monitor associated with it?

[ionic garnet]

When I was a young teen in 1970s, I was at a wedding riffing on inventions or emerging technology. I had gotten one of those digital plastic watches with red LCD display, I was showing it to people and said we would see computers in our wrists in our lifetime. I also helped invent the reading of electrodermal activity which led to heartrate ability

[modern night]

It does have a monitor? Oh no, I've been nerd snipped. After the wii balance board that's going to be my followup then..

[balmy tinsel]

If you get circuit python running on the watch will you be able to do a write up on it

[storm swan]

If you're playing with watches and can now play with ESP32's...the T-Watch v3 is an average watch but great wrist-based dev platform 😛
https://www.hackster.io/news/upgraded-lilygo-ttgo-t-watch-2020-v3-gets-an-on-board-microphone-for-wearable-voice-projects-eb51e835cc01

[nova totem]

Almost every project I do I realize it would have been cheaper to buy commercially

[ionic garnet]

the solution: Apple Watch . Great app building support

I know you're not an Apple guy

[upper sandal]

yeah but commercial products never do exactly what you want (neither does yours, because it's daunting to develop, but still)

[ionic garnet]

time sink yes, but how to value your continuous learning and variety of experiences

[storm swan]

The PineTime SmartWatch is a neat package too, but a little underpowered (nRF52832)
https://pine64.com/product/pinetime-smartwatch-sealed/

[ionic garnet]

I have. patents on that stuff

Owned by Affectiva now SmartEye

Coinventor with two wonderful women PhD/Profs at MIT

[balmy tinsel]

I've never wanted a smart watch until just now. But a CP smart watch is pretty tempting

[ionic garnet]

Like coinventing Jibo with Cynthia Breazeal

[storm swan]

Transflective displays are really nice

[modern night]

air quality monitoring and biometrics are super interesting to me. I'm always excited to see folks pushing that family of projects

[ionic garnet]

Typical

or teams that push code on Friday night

[upper sandal]

did you mention https://circuitpython.org/board/TG-Watch/ ?

[ionic garnet]

Question for all: very best instructions for experience C/C++ and Python programmer to get up to speed building CP. I know there is a learn guide but may be aimed at noobs (which in a sense I am)

@rapid hornet ^^

Ah yes Dan did

Looks like a good read

I know. It's systems level--my happy place

[grand tusk]

Thanks Scott, it's been nice to hang out with you.

[proper prawn]

Tnx Scott! All have a fine weekend

[grand tusk]

...and your cats.

[ionic garnet]

FPGAs mine too

[upper sandal]

[ionic garnet]

Reach out anytime. I appreciate all your work

[modern night]

Missed the bulk of this but the bit I caught was lovely, thanks for the stream and have a lovely and fulfilling time while you're off in the upcoming weeks!

[storm swan]

FPGAs are high on my list too

[ionic garnet]

Those Ada peoples are good folk

[inner spade]

Thanks for the dive today!

[storm swan]

Good to see you Scott, enjoy your break! 🙂

[ionic garnet]

thank you for you gentle guidance and help with my hard issue. You, Dan H, and everyone is so wonderful @rapid hornet

[storm swan]

QuickLogic EOS S3 is in my sights...

[ionic garnet]

such pretty kitties

my sweet doggie is under my desk as we speak

[upper sandal]

have a nice weekend

[rapid hornet]

thanks all!

[storm swan]

I've got a couple of them - lack of USB is not an issue for me 😉

[proper prawn]

@smoky island No stream today on Twitch/YT?

[open surge]

I believe he's out this weekend, Scott filled in for him yesterday

[smoky island]

Not today. Still out of town

[proper prawn]

@smoky island Tnx Tim. Have a nice time!

[open girder]

LIVE AT 7PM ET! Desk of Ladyada - an ESPecially fun demo of web/wifi workflow https://youtu.be/fOWkadZykfA

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! Desk of Ladyada - an ESPecially fun demo of web/wifi workflow https://youtu.be/fOWkadZykfA

[viral sail]

Good evening.

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[lilac tusk]

Hello

[open girder]

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[upper sandal]

[green bison]

Will be listening while I drive home from work (not driving right now). It's been a while since I watched. Love these shows.

[inner spade]

👋

[lilac tusk]

Web workflow would be cool for a plant environmental controller I’m making

I’m using the ESP32-S2 Wrover module as well

[viral sail]

That's really neat!

[open surge]

I've been testing it, it's so cool

[clever summit]

I am looking into something similar, but Zigbee powered. What sensors are you planning on using?

[upper sandal]

the editor works, it's just a text field, no rich editing here

[lilac tusk]

For now, probably allowing expandability with some of the more complex ones Adafruit sells doing auto detect

[clever summit]

Found any good for nutrition level of the soil?

[lilac tusk]

Not yet, that would definitely be cool to explore though. Probably some variation of a soil moisture sensor with a predefined lookup table

[clever summit]

Thousands of ESP boards, sounds like my lab. 🙂

[lilac tusk]

I love the ft232h

[autumn turret]

Woah woah woah... burying the lede here! The lady has a phone? 😄

[lilac tusk]

Using it on my fpga feather 🙂

[open girder]

it's an android for testing 🙂

we are doin' more android and ios work

[autumn turret]

Was about to say "Must be for AdafruitIO and other mobile testing" 🤣

[open girder]

yerp

[verbal river]

Testing phones for WaveBubble compatibility?

[open girder]

🙂

[lilac tusk]

Any chance this battery monitor will make it on feather revisions?

[autumn turret]

"Let's kick it"? Now gonna need to bust out some Beastie Boys after the show

You gotta fight, for your right, to reeeeepaaaaaair!

[lilac tusk]

2 layer 4 life

Lol

I’m also over here living the 2 layer life

[autumn turret]

Isn't a 4 layer just a 2 layer of 2 layer?

[lilac tusk]

Yes but that would make me square

[nova totem]

it's an extra layer for your tears 😢 when you try to troubleshoot all the hidden stuff

[autumn turret]

I've heard it's hip to be square

[lilac tusk]

Well, being square means you’re not cutting corners

[autumn turret]

Here, there and everywhere

[lilac tusk]

But being square on a Euclidean plane is hard

And by hard, I mean completely normal experience

You might find the experience well rounded. Like the balls on the bottom of a BGA chip

Without wanting to die, I’m going to remember that quote

“You can solder it without wanting to die”
-Ladyada

We need a poster

[upper sandal]

oh somebody was asking on the forums if there would be an ESP32-C3 feather ?

[lilac tusk]

I think microDev did one?

[upper sandal]

like if it's likely

[lilac tusk]

Not sure if they made it for sale though

Honestly haven’t seen them active for a long time

I have one in my back pocket.. waiting to have the boards and parts ordered

[autumn turret]

Sounds like this week's great search lesson is that at times, finding a suitable replacement takes some diving into the details of the datasheets and recommended configuration

[lilac tusk]

It’s a reel experience

[open girder]

new show the REEL WORLD

haha

[lilac tusk]

One reel, 5 engineers, one prize

[autumn turret]

Blank/empty reels and engineers crying in front of them

[nova totem]

They have Lego masters, I'd watch some sort of maker competition show

[autumn turret]

Dang, until that current limit, sounded like a REALLY interesting solution

[lilac tusk]

Next Maker

That’s the show

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night. 🌔

[lilac tusk]

Let’s do it

Thanks for a great show!

[autumn turret]

Thanks Adafruit and have a good rest of your Sunday friends

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[verbal river]

Thanks

[open surge]

good show, thank you

[viral sail]

Appreciate the pre-advertised start time for Desk of LadyAda this week, didn't have to hang around and guess when Random Hacker Time was going to be. 🕖

[shell mason]

great desk of ladyada show

[inner spade]

👋

[haughty quiver]

howdy!

[open surge]

hiya

[haughty quiver]

one moment please -- software is fighting me

I won! This round at least

[open surge]

that's what your computer wants you to think

[tacit garnet]

Skynet for the win.

[glass stag]

Oh good, I thought I was going to be late.

[lilac tusk]

Slide pot

That’s the PPTW

[tacit garnet]

Motorized pot, for those too tired to change the volume.

[lilac tusk]

Me, it’s me

Lol

Iced tea with.. sugar?

[cinder wind]

Can't spell WIRECAST without "Wat Cries"

[lilac tusk]

Cri se wat

You know what he cool, using these motorized pots to control your garage door

Or control the lift bed on an RC dump truck

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👍

[lilac tusk]

Flying Fader, Darth Fader’s cousin

That’s 100ohm per mm

Lol

[shell mason]

Flying Fader might become Lars rule the Flying Lars Fader

[cinder wind]

oh JP got the metal fader knobs!

[grand tusk]

🥏 🍪 👍

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/fader-guy-funny-mixer-sound-gif-16179623

[grand tusk]

This is just like magic!

[shell mason]

some 3d printed lars minifig what have conductive filament could work

[fossil musk]

I think it's all done with squirrels

[wind spoke]

Do you share the code of your demo somewhere? (this one, but for all of your video actually)

[glass stag]

Got to glue a little JP face onto it.

Later

[grand tusk]

Thanks JP!

[wind spoke]

A learn guide will do it. 🙂

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[open surge]

thanks!

[past meteor]

Thanks!

[haughty quiver]

thanks everyone!

[wind spoke]

Wondering if there is the same "thing" but for rotary button...

[inner spade]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/PRM162-K420K-103B1/3780910

[inner spade]

No touch pin, though.

[wind spoke]

I was thinking the trick to hack a servo and use the potentiometer value.

[wind spoke]

Thank you for the Great Search on Digikey. 🙂

[inner spade]

I learned from the best.

[inner spade]

Analog feedback servos are a thing: https://www.adafruit.com/?q=analog+feedback+servo&sort=BestMatch

[wind spoke]

Oh wait, there was already a John Park video about that, where he was doing animatronic, the thing that record your move and there repeat them exactly.

[haughty quiver]

[rotund marsh]

Anyone know what's the Stepper Motor equivalent? "Closed loop stepper" or something else? Want to record and playback position of stepper => gear => belt contraption.

Thanks for the Analog Feedback Servo recommendations.

[rotund marsh]

fwiw - continued in robotics channel @ #help-with-robotics message

[split gazelle]

good morning folks

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[open surge]

morning!

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 373 LIVE in 1 min! IOT Telegraph, DIY Pi 400, Gibson Headstock Hanger and Flamingo https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live #3DPrinting #3DHangouts

[lavish patrol]

Hello, folks.

[hard hollow]

☕️⚡️🧭

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[rocky reef]

good morning, afternoon, evening and night to everyone hanging out all over the world!

[split gazelle]

thumbnail is epic today

[lavish patrol]

New Bleeps and Bloops too.

[upbeat coral]

Nice hair Pedro

[lavish patrol]

29C where I am now.

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

https://www.adafruit.com/jobs

[upbeat coral]

Is it just me or is there some buffering?

[lavish patrol]

Ditto here.

[rocky reef]

​hmm try twitch https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit

[open surge]

thanks!

[upbeat coral]

I'm on Twitch

[lavish patrol]

I just drop the res. That usually seems to help.

[upbeat coral]

There it goes aGIN

[shell mason]

think speed controller for that

[lavish patrol]

I think with the real ones they ring a bell when you move them.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/subway-minions-underground-tube-london-gif-16562021

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[shell mason]

andy you know rail tracks, your own minirail

[split gazelle]

the cap touch can sometimes get some interference from the servo 🙂

[shell mason]

order food and foodtrain will deliver

conductive filament is cool way sure

having the conductive filament to neat place so then have inside conduit for shorter wire

legion fx show had food train

[lavish patrol]

"Iceberg dead ahead!"

[haughty quiver]

Is Elastic Deform like a soft select in Maya @rocky reef ?

[shell mason]

autodesk seems open sourced the tools lately

if john add to that keyboard is the flying fader

[upbeat coral]

https://www.raspberrypiplastics.com/ One I have on order to do just what you did. The Red and White one.

[shell mason]

wooden keys

[upbeat coral]

Would a CM4 and iot board fit in here?

Not a kickstarter

[lavish patrol]

Wooden keys wooden work...

[open surge]

Gotta love open source!

[haughty quiver]

LOL re Maya licensing

the worst

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edge-runners-cyberpunk2077-night-city-gif-25909292

adam savage could add aluminium rod to that neck part

[lavish patrol]

Great show guys. 👍

[hard hollow]

thanks for haning out folks, cya tonight 🙂

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[upbeat coral]

Thanks for sharing your time with us.

[shell mason]

great show

[proven crow]

Who is hosting S&T tonight?

[lilac tusk]

Liz and Melissa I believe