#Castle Wars W334

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balmy flint
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Yeah people asked them for it before

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And I think they almost put it in themed

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But then didn't do it

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They almost did a few updates and didn't

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They agreed to do a few actually that got backlogged

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And then forgotten about

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Cuz like I said above

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We were in contact with ayiza a long time ago

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And then his job switched

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Or like job title as a mod

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And so that stopped and all the updates and etc

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Kind of went bye bye

orchid escarp
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Buds can you take the time and witness the shit behavior right now in 334

balmy flint
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But we got alot of good updates when

past marten
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I think this demands another look by them

balmy flint
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Ayiza was like in charge of the mini game revamp

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He also fixed ba

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Random Poison splats

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And stuff in ba too

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And various mini games

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But then he got a different role when that all ended

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And jagex hasn't paid any attention to minigames

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For ages

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Except lms

past marten
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No reason old mini games can’t be updated for the benefit of the community

balmy flint
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But yeah ash helps cw

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Fairly frequently when he can still

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Like if you tweet ash things

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He responds

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Almost always

orchid escarp
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Tweet him this

balmy flint
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Well that's the thing

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He helps with updates

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He doesn't handle bans and reports tho

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He will redirect you elsewhere

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Usually to the jagexsupport handle on twitter

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For reports

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He does q&a and update suggestions mainly

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Like I said tho before

past marten
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That Snipe guy probably got beat up a lot in theme world cw back when RuneScape was cool so now he’s an e-thug

balmy flint
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Sometimes it's hard to get things

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Done

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Cuz

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If u go to ash with an update proposal like 1 portal

orchid escarp
balmy flint
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Daz clan will spam him

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Saying people don't want that update and etc etc

past marten
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That’s dumb

balmy flint
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So its hard..

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But yeah they actively monitor

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That crashing clan

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Has people that actively monitor tweets

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Especially toward ash

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Or to ash

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To like shoot down things that'd hinder them in 334

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By like mass shitting on it on the tweet

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With posts

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So even if you did come up with a good update

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It'd be hard to get it through

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I know a couple people tho

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That could get it listened to

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Cuz jmods generally have a good relationship with cwc

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And there's like always 2 to 3 people

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Who like

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Mods will listen to

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That are confirmed to be reliable

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Like one of them atm

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Is porky

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Like in cw he's known as porky pans

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There's also like jay

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And one other player

orchid escarp
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It’s not that difficult to see the sadistic behaviour its happening right now all these accounts opposite side of snipe’s team while his team is filled with actual players and other side only has maybe 3 real players, and what I mean by the community takes it in their hands is that they try to do something back which causes even more problems. So now each side is sabotaging cades

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Tank did you talk to your cwc friends yet that actually play some main world games

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Halo warriors

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Buds

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These accs prob got like 500 tickets atleast and that’s all from losing games

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😂

balmy flint
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No I didn't bother

past marten
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Well porky has been around as long as us or longer so I respect him as I do you

balmy flint
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Cuz either way whether those accounts are Daz or not

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I know that there's no way to realistically prove malicious intent

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Other then the fact it's Daz..

orchid escarp
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Go witness the games now in 334

balmy flint
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They'd at least see it and think about it maybe

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I could dm him and ask him to ask them for it for 334

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I highly doubt they'll say yes tho

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They rarely ever say yes to anything that isn't super easy to update lol

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Like for example

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Locator orb was an effortless update

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So they did that

past marten
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Yeah but it’s a step in a good direction for the community and it’s not the easiest update we’ve already addressed which could possibly peak their interest since it’s not the standard like update to say boost anything specific

balmy flint
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But it's pretty hard to get updates that aren't like 1 or 2 lines of code lol

past marten
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That’s why I think you have to add on other parts

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Wether they are big parts they can be part of the update with the single portal system

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Make it worth their time to update the game

balmy flint
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Yeah that's just it

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I don't think they'll do another big cw update

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Anytime soon

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They might do small ones

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Like changing cw brew

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Or something

past marten
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It doesn’t have to change big aspects but maybe it could add things

balmy flint
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It doesn't hurt to ask

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But yeah

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I don't see it realistically

past marten
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Idk what else to add on though that’s the problem

balmy flint
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Oh there's lots of stuff

past marten
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I just like the single portal system for alleviating a lot of the stacking issues

balmy flint
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Like giving noted cw bracelets to lanthus

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Fixing the saradomin wall

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Etc

past marten
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A revamp is a revamp either way so I don’t think anything is a bad suggestion

balmy flint
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Giving cw brew stamina pot and prayer pot effect

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There's quite a couple things

past marten
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I would just have it all listed out and be specific to what actually matters

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When asked or brought up to Jagex

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There could be a poll implemented to see what the community thinks of the new suggestions or possible updates and ask for feedback specifically from Castle Wars Community members

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Since is directly affects theme based world castle wars games then castle wars players should be able to vote on it and with enough people behind it how can jagex not want to improve their mini game community

balmy flint
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Well like there's already things like the cw brew thing

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That's passed with a vote of 72 yes to 4 no

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Lol

past marten
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That was a great update imo

balmy flint
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Not the tables

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I mean to get them to give stamina and prayer aswell

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As what they already do

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That's passed 72 to 4 lol

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They just didn't do it

past marten
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Yeah but Jagex would have the poll not us

balmy flint
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Yeah but I mean in cwc

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It was polled

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And won 72 to 4

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L0l

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That's why like I said

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If I was to suggest a realistic update that might happen

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Thats probably the first one I'd suggest

past marten
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So it wouldn’t be limited to only CWC but to anyone who actually plays Theme Based Cw so it would not matter if the rest of RuneScape didn’t care about Cw cause it would be questions specific to people who regularly play Castle Wars at theme

balmy flint
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Yeah that's the thing tho

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It'll be harder to win that g
Then u think

past marten
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Like how you can skip a question in a current poll if it doesn’t apply to you

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It’s simple

balmy flint
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Cuz they will all vote no

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Like dismantled

past marten
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They can filter votes easily

balmy flint
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Will all vote no

orchid escarp
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FYI the people that thumbs down this post are people clueless to the actual competitive side of castle wars

past marten
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Jagex has the capability

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Which means the voting would matter even more if they filtered the votes cause it would be real people with real opinions on the game

balmy flint
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I mean it'd be easy for them to do

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If they tracked cw on highscores

past marten
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Exactly

balmy flint
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I don't they do anymore th8

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Tho

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So

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Lol

past marten
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Loved that part about RuneScape was seeing all the thousands of games we all played lol

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Like a leaderboard

balmy flint
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But yeah if they still had a games played saved

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They could make the poll so you could only vote on the question

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If u have 500 games +

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Or like 1k+ games

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But I don't think they track that anymore

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They should but they don't I don't think

past marten
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I mean if they wanted to they could use an acquired ticket amount and then you could vote if you met a certain amount of tickets which would have taken a considerable amount of time to obtain

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It would limit alts but most mains that have 1000s of tickets could easily vote

white fiber
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man this tank guy was yappin

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over a thousand messages in this thread now

orchid escarp
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@white fiber your input doesn’t matter you wouldn’t really know, you legit comment on any thread with your 2cents

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@balmy flint input is legit

white fiber
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dude couldnt just trust you when you said those players were alts of the griefer

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hardly anyone’s afking in the official worlds in the first place

orchid escarp
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He is a legit player of the private games of castle wars and he knows things going on within the community. I know he says he can’t say it’s him or not but he knows it’s possible

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And I know for a fact it’s him all we need is jagex to actually look into it

white fiber
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99% of ppl farming tickets will make an alt and do it in f2p with an alt, there’s 0 chance the accounts you listed are different people

orchid escarp
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Never said it’s different people

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I said it’s 1 guy griefing

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😂

white fiber
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poor reading comprehension lol

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im saying youre absolutely right and i’m agreeing with you

orchid escarp
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Thx bud

white fiber
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did nothing to you so stay mad i guess lol, i have over 1k castle war tickets btw :P

orchid escarp
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I’m not mad

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You’re mad saying someone is yapping in here

elder lava
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Any input that doesn't agree with me is not needed!

past marten
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All noobs welcome to this Castle Wars game suggestion discussion

orchid escarp
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They are the type of new people to join snipe’s side like istorys following bad habits and thinking alting one side is ok and stacking the other to “clear” players that snipe is afraid of

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Their mentality after being brain washed and manipulated into the bad habits

balmy flint
balmy flint
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But yeah things like that are tricky cuz

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Say he goes and tells a jmod those 4 or 5 accounts are daz

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But like only 2 of them are Daz and 3 or 4 of them are different people in Daz's clan

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Then you kind of lose credibility aswell

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You need to word things properly

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Like I think these accounts are this particular guy and if they're not him then they're within X clan

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Rather then I know for a fact 100% these 5 or 6 accounts are exactly X guy.

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Cuz for all you know that clan everyone has 1 alt each

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And they all just double log

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You do not know for a fact that all of those are 1 particular guy even if they are all probably from 1 clan run by 1 guy

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And the more exaggerated statements you make with 100% confidence

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The less likely someone like a mod is to take you seriously

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Cuz you just come off jaded and on a personal vendetta

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Where you're just making shit up

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Now I know personally there is probably a decent chance they are all 1 guy

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But there's also a decent chance that it's multiple people within that clan

flat cedar
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The minigame could definitely use some updates to the reward system, not another afk timer but rewards for active participation

You can currently double log and afk both sides on any world for 2 tickets each or score once on yourself for 3:1

But once both teams try to win by scoring, the total reward for that game goes down:

Shut-out win (1-0) = 3 tickets to winning team, 1 ticket for losing team.
Regular win (2-1) = 2 tickets to the winning team, 1 ticket for losing team.
Scoreless tie (0-0) = 2 tickets for both teams.
Regular tie (1-1) = 1 ticket for both teams.
It feels so backwards to me

I'd do 1 ticket base just for playing, 1 ticket for teammate per point scored and an extra if you're the one scoring, maybe one half of a ticket per flag returned to base and 0.25 per enemy slain, and some fraction of amount of tickets for points of damage dealt / healed to others with bandages, capped per category.

(I don't know, this needs heavy workshopping by trained professionals but you get the gist of it)

This should make it so the most efficient thing to do is have your team's flag capturers ready to go on top of the enemy base, but also reward the team's base defenders (when they're not yourself in another window) for putting up a fight

flint wigeon
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All they have to do is add a little lanthus pet to it and the place would be booming but they would rather pump there resources into getting more bots to play the game

flint heath
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lmfaoo cw is such a shit hole and embarassing really, its filled with a couple idiots dwelling/gatekeeping it and paranoid of each other(placing a acc in each team to see what they are up against) or accusing each other over whos saboing, alting, “clienting”(using third-party client) or which team has more players. making excuses over anything starting arguments because most players that been playing cw for years have this crazy ego being better than others in it and will do anything to make sure their side wins. dont get me wrong it really can be fun af, at times games are good... but for the most part people take it too personal and the ones in w334(which i will not name) definitely ruin it and are weirdly narcissistic over who is playing or not, saddest part is everyone is nearly in their 30s now and its the worst its ever been.

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do better jagex

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#Qualityoflife

humble holly
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We all agree that the minigame needs attention and modifications, i believe the community of castle wars is willing to work happily with jagex to improve it as they all want more quality games.

Jagex can revive one of the old iconic minigame of runescape if they are willing to give us a bit of attention

balmy flint
balmy flint
balmy flint
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They can't in good conscience allow tickets to be monetizable as there is people with literally 100k tickets stock piled in the bank already

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But yeah they need something like points that lms has that can only be gained in 334 and 354 and a 2nd shop with real rewards that are non cosmetic

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And then just leave tickets alone

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But yeah if they could get a 2nd shop where you can only get points for it in the themed worlds and add a pet

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It'd have alot of people playing

flint heath
# balmy flint Spoken like someone who's only ever played the themed world.

I’m sorry is this post not made towards the theme world of cw? 🤣😂 these are reasons why you avoid theme world because you rather not deal with the sabotaging and shit behavior of players you rather play your private games to set your own cap and rules with gear and even sided games, don’t get offended I don’t blame you all I typed was the state of things that happens and possibly reasons why you stay away from it. I did specifically say w334 not meaning cw as a whole and what it really could be in the competitive side.

balmy flint
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Realistically the solution to 334 is simple

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Jagex needs to enforce their game rules...

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On particular people...

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In a meaningful way

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But also a reward shop for themed world and pet would be really good for getting players to come back.

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Even if a post is about themed world its not just about themed world either... you have to be careful when asking jagex for updates and be very clear about it

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Or you'll end up with a nightmare where people farm points outside of themed world

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Or every world has 1 Portal only

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And you can't make teams off the themed world

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But yeah when you say cw is a shithole it implies all of cw is bad

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And that's just not true

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W334 is a shithole

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And w334 is very bad.

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But w334 is not all of cw

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And even w334 isn't really bad

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It's just a specific group of people in w334

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Lots of the people in w334 are not bad at all

orchid escarp
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This is about W334

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Tank bud why do want to keep fighting people about this

orchid escarp
past marten
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W334 has had some really good games and I’ve played in them many times.. there is just a specific anti-fun having group that Snipe does appear to be a part of if not solely responsible for the majority of the sabotaging and stacking etc. I agree with Tank that the update has to be treaded on lightly and very specific to what needs to be addressed or else it could go wrongly

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Castle Wars is a deep community with implications reaching far beyond theme-based game worlds

humble holly
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Playing in theme world AKA 334 is basically wasting your time either anti stacking, or accidentally stacking with the stackers. Which both are waste of time

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There are very rare occasion when games are okay/competitve/feels like a war, in theme world

flint heath
# humble holly Tank isn't wrong there. Right now if you want tickets you can afk with alt on f2...

Look I did specifically say w334 towards my first comment I made here and again idc to call out the people that everyone seems to know is the main perpetrator mostly doing it which seems to be why this post was made lolo, I’m not sure what exactly you’re trying to point out here “me playing only theme world” its not like I suggested any changes because I know there’s a real competitive side off of theme worlds and is what cw should be. Majority of people that play osrs don’t even know you need a cw brace/ava to lanthus. Jagex just simply doesn’t care because it’s a small community which rarely any new players get into or care to get invested into playing competitively because of the state of the theme world.

balmy flint
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Yeah well I think the comment makes sense in the context where you say "cw is a shithole"

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That implies all of cw in general

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Which there's more to cw then just w334

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So a response of spoken like someone who's only ever played in 34

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Makes total sense.

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See cuz when someone who knows alot about cw and plays it all the time reads "cw is a shithole" there's 2 responses generally... which is either to argue with the person and insult them

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Or just make the assumption they've never played outside of 334

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So they simply don't know any better

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But if you had said themed world is a shithole

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I probably wouldn't have even responded

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But you basically stated the entire game in and of itself

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Which is alot bigger then just w334

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Is bad.

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And you also made statements under that

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That in all of cw in general as implied from above

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That people gatekeep it and client and etc etc

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When I know in cwc

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It's generally all inclusive

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Cheating is not allowed

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And even certain runelite plugins are not allowed

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People lend billions of gp of gear

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And absolutely no gatekeeping is done

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And it's the least toxic it's been in probably 10 years

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And at the bottom you say it's the worst it's ever bern

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And thats not true in cwc or even in 334

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It was worse in 334 years ago before jagex banned Daz multiple times

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It got significantly less bad after they banned him and a few other people like t7

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But the players are essentially gone now because even tho it's less bad it's still really bad.

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Like the reason it sucks so much now is because there is noone left to bother playing in 334

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Because people just don't tolerate it anymorr

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The order of operations for new players used to go

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Come to 334 and play there for while like the game

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And then either continue there or come play private games

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But nowadays

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The order of operations is

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Go to 334 and see the spastics

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And quickly find someone that redirects you to cwc

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And then join cwc disc

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And give cw a chance or dont

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And you start out playing off 334 right from the jump

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Because it's simply unplayable

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And has been for years

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Like alot of the reason 334 is dead

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Is because cwc is so much better nowadayd

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And has so many new people

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Or noobier people

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That its really easy to just never play 334 and skip straight to private games

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And until jagex does something about the people ruining the experience in 334

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I'd highly recommend anyone new wanting to try cw

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Not even go to 334

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And go straight to cwc discord

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And straight into private games

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Or talk to people that private gamss

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Cuz its not even worth doing 334 atm until jagex fixes the problems with the people there

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Like unironically

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Going to a different world starting a timer by yourself

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And practicing cw mechanics while u farm tickets

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Is about 100x more fun then playing 334 1v10 when ur 10 caded

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But yeah it'd be nice if they could fix 334 so people could jump into a game whenever they want

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Without being omega harassed

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But idk that's on jagex to do that

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But if you think you'd like cw

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There's no reason to suffer in 334

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Just join cwc disc and come play with legit people

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Like if you realistically think about the nature of this thread

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The main complaint by the op is that 334 is dead

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The complaint can be read as follows "w334 is so dead that a sabotager has to space his clan in to outnumber the air."

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Because there's only like 2 people there to play against 10 of them

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So in order for them to get onto the same team

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He has to octuple log to beat the air.

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Which is the sad reality

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The way those guys used to crash is 10 cade with 1 alt vs like 10 enemy players

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Or 5 or 6

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Now they literally don't have anymore enemies to play against

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And they're so cringe they want to pretend they're beating someone

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Like they always pretend they were even when they were 10 cading

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So they make alts to go sit on the enemy team to pretend they're actually beating someone

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But all they're doing is beating off themselves

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Legit Noone is even playing there

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Except like maybe 1 or 2 people like goldia

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That are unfortunately

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Still frequenting 334

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Rather then playing private games

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And I understand when threads like this pop up

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Because jagex 100% should be doing something about them

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Imagine a clan could just crash Pest control

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And prevent anyone from ever winning a pc game

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And so everyone hopped away to non Pest control worlds

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Of their own accord

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And jagex just left those pc crashers to do that

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Unheard of right?

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But it's fine when it's cw because cw doesn't have void knight armor

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Which is like bis armor

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Or give you Coins or xp rewards

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So they don't care

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But they 100% should care

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And should be taking action against these people

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And it's not even about these particular alts or this post

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It's 20 years of 1000s of reports of harassment

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Along with many other things

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Probably every rule in the game has been broken by these people over 1000 times

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And they're just allowed to run rampant for whatever reason

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If I had to guess I'd say they have someone that protects them that's close to a mod

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Or has ties to a mod

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Because I don't see how else they'd be allowed to exist like this

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I've never seen it anywhere else on the game.

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Like I don't know any other minigame

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Or any other thing like pvp or anything

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Where people are allowed to openly like

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Dox people

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Scam people

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Spread a keylogger using the game as a platform for that

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Use 3pc to cheat

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Rwt everything they own account included

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Harass

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Solicit

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You name the rule they've broken the rule

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And lots of them have probably broken even real world laws

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But idk they're like pesky flies

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And everytime jagex swats one

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They just come back

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And jagex cba to actually just like spray the pesticide on them

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And idk why

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I have to at somepoint think someone close to Daz has mod influence

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And protects him via influence to a jmod

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Cuz I don't see how else he can still exist in the game.

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And it's not like there's stuff jagex can't do

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They could even make it so the portals in 334 don't allow certain people inside and make like a Portal banlist

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So they don't even have to commit to ipbanning from osrs

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They could just ip ban him specifically from entering cw games

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Cuz even if you contact a jmod

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With direct evidence of things he's done

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That'd get anyone else normal permanently chain banned

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He never seems to get more then like 1 account banned

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With 10000 reports to get him banned barely on like 1 account

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And at some point you have to wonder why?

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Especially with the whole mod corruption thing with was it trident?

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You have to wonder why is it that when he reports someone for the tiniest thing

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He can get someone banned almost immediately

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But when he does the most reprehensible shit for 20 years

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He can't even get banned unless he directly threats a high up mod like curse in a chatbox

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There must be some reason for that.

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Which is a huge part of the reason I doubt this thread will help

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Because personally I think he has mod connections that protect him from being banned

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And also make it really shitty for people that try to out him for what he does

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And I've thought that for years.

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Before he even had a clan I thought that.

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It would be nice to have a chat with a mod tho like ash or someone like this

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And ask why he isn't permanently chain banned on sight

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And ask for a reasonable explanation as to why he still exists

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Cuz I couldn't make one up if I was a jmod trying to answer that question for the life of me.

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And when things like that occur you have to think it's mod corruption

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Or favoritism or something

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Cuz like it makes no sense otherwise how he still exists on the game.

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Like idk think about this

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They made a whole discord server to just report basically him and 2 of his buddies accounts

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With a direct mod contact in that server

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Multiple jmods actually

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And manual banned accounts slowly barely

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Why didn't they just chain ban those 3 people?

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They chain ban plenty of people like gold farmers and stuff

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And these guys are all major rwters too

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Along with macroing and other stuff

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And they won't touch their main account

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Yet they chain ban other people for very very insignificant stuff in comparison

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Like for example if u bot on an alt account to like 30 attack from 1 at chicken's in lumbridge or something dumb

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They will chain that ban onto your main

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So they have no issue chainbanning players

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Yet they don't touch him?

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Why?

mild warren
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Meltdown

split jacinth
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Truly a castle wars moment

orchid escarp
balmy flint
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Give one other logical explanation for jagex to not have chain banned him on spam

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Other then he has some kind of pull

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With a jmod

flint heath
# balmy flint That people gatekeep it and client and etc etc

Anyways just because I didn’t directly give out a name doesn’t mean I literally meant everyone, most people like you and I know this guy has followers so… I’m generalizing the clan..also if you read it again I said people accusing each other of client did not say everyone clienting. Stop crying as if I attacked cwc, this post was made about theme world after all.

orchid escarp
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🎪

balmy flint
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Which is as follows:
Since he is very good at rwt he knows extremely well how to mule and hide connections between accounts from one account to the next

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And so because they cannot connect the accounts to him because he's very good at making sure they can't do that

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They therefore find it very hard to ban him.

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The same way they find it very hard to ban the main account of someone running a bot farm or a gold farmer

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Cuz they use vpses and vpns and never dirty their own main account that they actually play on

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In anyway where jagex could reasonably link the accounts to X person.

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So I am being slightly unfair when I say there's no reason. Cuz I know you could give an argument as to why and that probably is the only argument they could give and probably is exactly what they would say.

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frank badger
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Yellow

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balmy flint
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Idk it's just hard for them to fix it aside from flat out banning him cuz any update they do other then banning him from joining games or banning him from osrs he can get around

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The only thing I can think of is they could make it so its 1 portal system in themed world and literally hard code it in so that his alts all go to the same side when it sorts the teams

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Which even that doesn't really work cuz then the teams wouldn't have an even amount of people

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Cuz like there's multiple ways for them to sabotage and they can't really all be fixed

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Like he can have his alt just hold the enemy teams flag

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So you can never score for example

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And like there's no way to really fix that

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The take from option is there

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But if you understand how it works you can get around it

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The reality is with the way cw is

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There's no update they can really make to stop deliberate sabotage

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All they can really do is police it and ban people who do that

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They can make updates to themed world tho to prevent stacking for example

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But sabotage is arguably worse then stacking and if that clan can't stack they will just sabotage

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Which is even worse

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Cuz atm people can 10 cade you Which is really really really hard if not impossible to win vs

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But even if they were to attempt to fix that in 334

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There's also flag holding like I mentioned above

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And there is legitimately no way to counter flag holding

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They just let their alt up their own base and hold their own flag from an alt on the enemy team

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And your team can never get the flag

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It's ober

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And any update they'd make to counter that would just ruin the game for legit people

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Cuz you'd hold the flag for a while trying to score and like get kicked to the lobby or something dumb

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Or have to like stop drop it and pick it back up or something

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I guess they could make take from only in w334 specifically

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Instant with no cool down timer

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But even that would cause a lot of griefing

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People just force taking flag from their teammates

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Idk I don't think sabotage is really fixable

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It just needs to be bannable

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Balance portal needs a new algorithm as well. If I had to guess it crudely places people on teams based on combat level and nothing more. Tank, I think you've mentioned elsewhere that gear needs to be calculated. AI can easily identify "this is a pure" and "this is a main." Other MMO's use a gear score system, RS should have a similar system for balancing combat minigames. 10 mains in barrows does nothing against 10 mains in Virtus/Torva.

balmy flint
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Yeah it does it by first amount of players and then Combat level

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And that's it

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It needs to also take into account spellbooks

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And some other stuff

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Cuz having like

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10 ancients mages on one team

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Vs 2 ancients mages on another

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Is really bad

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For example

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Yeah just need 1 portal like soul wars then let them pick teams and 1 cade per person

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I know that takes a lot of skill away from game tind and cadeing but it’s only way

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flint wigeon
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There’s gonna be consequences for both parties to enable fair game play

past marten
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You can’t limit each individuals cading as that would change the game entirely for all who play both theme and private games which is why this update should be limited to only real Castle Wars players who do more things than just PK at theme world

flint wigeon
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How can u limit it to cwars players only

rotund fossil
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I say only one portal to enter the game and no cades at all

flint wigeon
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Yeah or they can makes cades last 30 seconds or something

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Then they burn out

past marten
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The update voting can be limited to people who actually play the game daily and are involved in it. It’s an update regarding Castle Wars mini game after all, which does not affect everyone in OSRS

flint wigeon
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No don’t be silly there’s a lot of cwars people that have been driven away from cwars that no longer play daily

cosmic notch
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Make world 334 guthix portal only. Allow cw potions to restore prayer/stamina memberrole

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willow whale
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If jagex can revive something like fishing trawler since it was dead back then or even pest control when people were having issues with people not doing anything and earning points regardless. They should definitely fix castle wars. I’ve experienced castle wars myself and have witnessed most of what people have mentioned here (including afkers who sit on the top floor of castle wars without doing anything or helping their team defend their base) it’s even more sickening when you have one team that is better than the other because people would literally change teams just minutes before the game would start, they would leave the lobby and just spam click the portal of the opposing team in which they want to join giving them an advantage over all the other players.

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What’s the reason why people have 2 minutes to leave the spawn point? Oh yeah it’s to prevent them from going Afking why can’t something be implemented to get all those afkers on the top floor who just sit there and do nothing, when they get killed by another player they just go back upstairs and repeat the same process again. You’re not really playing castle wars if you just sit there while the rest of the people in your team are trying to defend their base and want to win and get rewarded with tickets, you’re just standing their for the whole duration of the minigame in hopes that your team would win and that you’d make as many castle wars tickets as possible. I’ve seen something similar like this in Pest Control where people would sit and do nothing yet Jagex implemented a “progress bar” on that minigame as well as fishing trawler to help resolve the issue and that people can actually play the game. They do need to fix this, it’s getting out of hand, people want the nostalgia of playing this iconic minigame. If no fix is implemented then castle wars itself will end up as being a dead minigame similar to what fishing trawler went through before they shed some light on it.

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I agree it’s crazy and such an easy fix but jagex can’t be asked to fix good content

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It’s like update this week to prevent bots yet none of the soul wars bots haven’t been banned

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They must just sit on their hands

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"fix good content"

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you mean fix dead content

flint wigeon
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It’s dead cause of griefers and junk rewards don’t comment if you know nothing about this field

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Sure was the good old days people these days don’t seem to want to do shit on rs unless u get good rewards for it like pets

weak pollen
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i mean there is a clear reason it has these issues

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https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Castle_Wars#Rewards

Old School RuneScape Wiki
Castle Wars

Castle Wars is a minigame released by Jagex in December 2004. It is similar to Capture the flag, but with a RuneScape twist. On July 20 2017, it was made Free-to-play, and can be accessed via a portal in the Ferox Enclave.
For Hardcore Group Ironmen, safe deaths can take place in Last Man Standing, Soul Wars, and Castle Wars.

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https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Collection_log

Old School RuneScape Wiki
Collection log

The collection log is a book that players can receive from The Collector near the stairs in the Varrock Museum's ground floor. It records nearly every unique drop the player has obtained from various content in Old School RuneScape. The player does not need to have claimed a collection log for it to start tracking drops.
Drops obtained prior to ...

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You have a bunch of people who do not care for the minigame at all but need to spend a significant amount of time in there to make progress with there log. ironically the best update for CW is when they either remove the rewards from the log or put in a min contribution to be eligible for tokens

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either that or change the system of how tokens are given out to something like soul wars , more points for better performance and helping

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# meager kettle you mean fix dead content

its not dead content there is a whole community behind castle wars that play it for what it is... then there is others that play it to harass others and sabotage their team griefing

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🎪

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willow whale
# weak pollen You have a bunch of people who do not care for the minigame at all but need to s...

I support the implementation of the contribution I’m not sure how it would work for those legit people who stand on base to defend the enemies by setting up barricades and what not. It’s also surprising of how much money those ice barragers spend on runes just to have a good amount of casts for each game as well as seeing the buffed up expensive armor people would wear to fight and to avoid getting ice barraged

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humble holly
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On a side note

Disable changing menu interaction with barricades won't harm anyone and will stop players from having huge advantages in Castle Wars

So disabling using explosives on barricades through players will solve a lot of issues, this update was done to construction and its easy to implement

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And it won't cause any harm

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Same thing with flag interactions, players are able to changing the menu swapper interactions and force flag picking with left clicks, which is obviously a huge advantage for players cheating. It won't cause any harm to fix those issues, and it will make game much more playable for everyone

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This is done through runelite client^

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I agree with everything you said @humble holly I didn't realize that was possible until now which sounds like it would be good to fix those things

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Really weird how there was zero sabo'ing going on until Daz came back from his impromptu 'vacation.' Wonder what would happen if Jagex looked into the association between those sabos (alts) and the main accounts they're linked to 🙂

orchid escarp
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Castle Wars W334

orchid escarp
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All those accounts are also all bought for the sole purpose of sabotaging and griefing 🤷‍♀️ … the list goes on yet still ignored

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Confused how that's considered cheating if Jagex explicitly allows changing menu entries for those specific things

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bc RL is a cheat client
even though Jagex "allows" its use. Large part of that is because people would quit en masse if RL was disallowed
But it does light a fire under Jagex and kinda force them to bring more modern features to the official clients. Some of those new features are a no-brainer, some are excessive. No point worrying about the specifics though as long as the players demand certain features and Jagex doesn't feel confident enough to take those features away

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The most major impacts it has are on older content like CW that get completely mangled by new interactions and new client features

orchid escarp
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@junior glacier

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A video from 4 years ago showing a guy used illegal plugins at the time doesn't equal to those same plugins which now Jagex has allowed being cheating. I get it's 'unfair' if you're not using RL but it seems to be allowed from the most recent client updates?
I'm only responding to 2hKiller's messages about the menu entry swappers being 'cheating', the other stuff I have no knowledge about so I won't try to say the guy is in the clear.

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If he's ruining games on purpose he seems like a piece of shit, I agree

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But MES isn't cheating, not anymore at least.

orchid escarp
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Same guy that has gotten banned over the years and keeps coming back on bought accounts continuing the bad habits

frank badger
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The default/built-in script needs to be modified by the devs, because as it stands it's a significant advantage over players who don't abuse it in CW.

junior glacier
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The dev who made Custom MS has already seen these complaints before and said he wouldn't be changing its behavior in CW

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What was his reasoning?

junior glacier
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Basically "The only thing flagged to not work are things Jagex explicitly said was not allowed"

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ie Construction

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Makes sense. Seems like Jagex just needs to add it to the list of things not allowed. I get its utility elsewhere for skilling and whatnot.

crimson vortex
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I see I am super late to this discussion (didn't even know this channel existed). I am going to port over my old forum post on my approach to solving this.

We've discussed this pretty lengthily in the past as the CWC, and things like an activity timer would be detrimental to real players while doing almost nothing to solve the real problem.

Things like green portal only which other CWC members have brought up are far better solutions, attacking the real problem.

orchid escarp
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🙂

crimson vortex
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I've made my own thread now on the topic, as it has a very different approach to the problem from this one.