game-questions

[grave inlet]

i dont wanna spend gp on tps so i think ill just use fairy ring and run back n forth

[wheat spear]

ye masori is rly good, you can get oathplate if ur camping a slash boss

would get masori first

[obsidian pasture]

But GP spent on teleports is GP saved in time, which in turn gives you more karambwans

If you want to run back to the fairy ring, you can do uh

[wheat spear]

could also sell the crystal armor and bowfa but idk what ur using that for

[obsidian pasture]

Chasm of fire

That one's the closest to a bank

[grave inlet]

that just means more gp/h right? i dont rly care about making gp just keeping the karambwans to eat in future bossing, but i also dont wanna spend gp if that makes sense

[merry vortex]

his frees up considerable GP.

Buy virtus, masori (unfortified), and oathplate. Get some dragon ammo. I sugggest binning the bowfa if you're not planning to get an infernal cape soon. Buy some forgotten brews in lieu of the imbued heart. Consider getting rid of the boots if you need more GP. ]

[obsidian pasture]

It means more karambwans/h

[fallow horizon]

tyvm, this was very helpful.

[obsidian pasture]

You don't even have to pay for runes, you can just make them

[fallow horizon]

True, I should've put more thought into the content i'm gonna delve into

[night pollen]

is there any way to trap a master farmer for hours?

[grave inlet]

i guess i want a balance of speed and not spending gp then. seems like ge > DKP fill up > back to ge is fine

[merry vortex]

yes

theres a few ways. i just go north of hosidious and trap in the house / hop till one is in there

you have to let him move every 5 minutes though

or he will walk through you

[obsidian pasture]

You should also keep in mind that there's a merchant that sells raw karambwans for cheap. You can cook those faster than you can catch new ones

[weary valve]

Next time someone ask for F2P money maker for bond

[obsidian pasture]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Tiadeche's_Karambwan_Stall

[night pollen]

The one with a mahogany contract?

[simple root]

Is this pathing not bugged? Only happens when I click the last egg

[short prism]

What’s bugged about it?

[simple root]

Why is it pathing to the egg instead of attacking from range

I litreally can not damage the egg unless im within 1 tile

[weary valve]

Might be a line of sight thing

[simple root]

It was working fine on Monday

[weary valve]

Then I don't know

Games dogshit

[short prism]

Are you sure? Looks like a line of sight thing.

[simple root]

Bro I have 700 kc on my iron man I know it normally works

[short prism]

I have 9000
Looks as expected to me

[weary valve]

You did 700kc on your iron using magic on the egg?

The one way to be sure if it's line of sight is to just install the plugin then take a new clip

[burnt moth]

any ideas why my game is censoring random things like ", tp "? I don't have profanity filter enabled

[weary valve]

It's to avoid people advertising websites essentially

[burnt moth]

there's no way to disable it on my end?

[junior plume]

does the gang matter in shield of arrav/

[weak socket]

you need someone of the opposite gang for shield of arrav (and the followup heros quest)

[daring spindle]

Shield of Arrav / Heroes Quest

If you are looking for a partner for the Shield of Arrav or Heroes' Quest, join the chat channel osrs soa and they can assist you there.

[weary valve]

No

[junior plume]

so i can do both?

[fervent crow]

no just one

[junior plume]

🥀

[outer horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scuba-cat-cat-dance-cat-meme-gif-7310400222821099896

[junior plume]

any reason why is there more phoenix members?

[trim marsh]

runelite defaults to picking them

[vivid coral]

wiki says trying to walk off fremmies is bait in colo, is that accurate?

[fervent crow]

for a first caper i wouldnt recommend it ye

[vivid coral]

worth buying sgs and then selling after?

[fervent crow]

yeah

[vivid coral]

kk

worth blood fury or is tort fine

im very comfortable w sol fight

use maybe 1-2 brews in colosim

[junior plume]

can i get rid of this quest now from quest helper somehow now lol?

[fervent crow]

its less about being comfortable on sol and more about saving supplies, you can heal up on a lot of waves with bloodfury

your choice tbh but the dps increase from tort isnt very noticeable

[vivid coral]

kk

just what my bank has, coming back from hiatus

since 2020 or so

[gleaming zodiac]

it worked like that since i did araxxor week two of leagues

[outer horizon]

yes its super worth

[vivid coral]

ill give it awhirl w just tort

cba to walk back to ge dont have varlamore tele yet

unless ring of dueling works to get back here?

[fervent crow]

it does once you unlock the teleport

[vivid coral]

via quest right

[fervent crow]

need to reach a certain amount of glory

no

[vivid coral]

oh

lemme check after this wave

[fervent crow]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Glory

[vivid coral]

got it thx

so 12k glory

[honest glade]

Herb patch is also very nice

[small cedar]

did they remove red salamanders in wildy?

[mild vine]

any suggestions for boss progression for me atm? I have full dharoks, infernal tecpatl, full mystic and warped sceptre. currently doing GG but I'm afraid I won't be able to beat them when I unlock their echo since I feel my melee sucks

[vivid coral]

you can just stay in melee range and run circles around them attacking/dodging shadows with your staff.

[mild vine]

ahhh nice. what after GG?

[obsidian pasture]

They did not add red salamanders to the wilderness to begin with

[vivid coral]

what regions

[tired flicker]

which runelite setting lets you view xp progress on the skill lvl screen?

[vivid coral]

this one iirc

[glass burrow]

I... don't think they've ever been there. Are you thinking about black salamanders maybe?

[vivid coral]

vice versa on this side, does the mager block the ranger here? i.e. i can do 2tile step out>mage>range and alternate?

[weary valve]

Here the bottom ranger and mager will see you at the same time if you do that method

[vivid coral]

oh because of how SW prio works?

[weary valve]

https://los.colosim.com/

[vivid coral]

aha

ty

So based on that ranger sees me first then mager

if i go south

so thatd be the way to solve?

pray range > run out > flick manti > back to range?

[weary valve]

For one to see you before another they have to "move" at different times. On the picture they're stacked there's no space to move to they just see you

[weary valve]

How confident are you in things?

[vivid coral]

do i need to z step?

i assume in this scenario ranger sees me before manti -- is this not the case?

[weary valve]

If you run to the very back, then step out on the mager / ranger side only the ranger will see you. You can then click the mager to path you in and flick that way

[deep pagoda]

Ye

Go west towards the wall praying range, shaman will path over

Then go back behind pillar and chilling

[vivid coral]

like so?

or like so

[deep pagoda]

Ye far west, run 3-4 north and comeback

2nd

[vivid coral]

thx

ranger will see me so pray range, let shaman path, solve easier that way

ok

oh i see what youre getting at

if the ranger sees me first then i go in range the mage and range will be on diff ticks

so i can just alternate and kill

oh i have myopia 3

the 2nd ranger sees me

i know what to do tho

[deep pagoda]

Yeah

Tbf with no myo or myo1 you can still go far and snipe ranger

[vivid coral]

it drags me past pillar i think i have to get closer to pillar

but ya

[deep pagoda]

If you have a mager and shaman in the back, then yes you want to destack them as above

[vivid coral]

i understand it

[rigid bronze]

ive seen people also use venator bow irrc is another option

[deep pagoda]

Start far west from the edge of the pillar, run 3-4 north and run back

[vivid coral]

its done

thx for the advice on running back to fix los

that line of sight website is pog

[rigid bronze]

bane gives good advice

[vivid coral]

follow up q

in this scenario

does the 2 space run out from middle cause the back to see me first?
(image a to b)
from this sim it makes it look like they both see me on the same tick, but i thought that this was the strat to get them 1 tick apart

[deep pagoda]

What’s the front manti praying

Mage?

[vivid coral]

ye

mage range

if they see me at same time = coflict = dmg

[deep pagoda]

You start middle of the pillar, next to it instead of 2 tiles west. So then the back sees you first

[vivid coral]

if they see me off tick i can alternate

[deep pagoda]

So range, step out then pray manti

[vivid coral]

right

ok

that was what i assumed was the case

the sim just makes it look like they see me at the samed time

[deep pagoda]

For simple solves always start next to the pillar in the middle

Simple being ab stacks

[vivid coral]

this assumption is correct then?

or is tbackwards

[deep pagoda]

Now let’s say, there’s 2 npcs in the front, then you start from the 2nd tile in middle and step out so the mob in front sees you

Tbf I know you don’t want to use a guide but please just watch a sunfish

He goes through all of it and then some

[vivid coral]

oh

[deep pagoda]

And would help a lot with stacks

[vivid coral]

the wiki has the solve

ok

sec lemme pk them

okis solved

its kinda nice you make money learning this activity

[vivid coral]

dont wanna

srry

[deep pagoda]

Well

It’s just odd

You don’t want to use a guide but you want to ask questions about the solves?

If the goal was a blind send then you wouldn’t do either tbh

Of course folks will still answer but the answers comes from a guide

[vivid coral]

no no i prefer written

not video thats all

so im using teh wiki/here

[deep pagoda]

If you want a written guide then you can use the one in wdr

We do raids

#affiliate-communities

Solid guide with all the solves and more info

And an active chat to help at all times

[vivid coral]

🙅

[deep pagoda]

It’s written 😭

You are confusing but alas

[vivid coral]

its unofficial im not tryna get lured again

[deep pagoda]

What

[vivid coral]

i trust this server

[deep pagoda]

No one is gonna lure you

We do raids is trusted

[vivid coral]

🤔

[deep pagoda]

Hence why it’s an affiliate server

[vivid coral]

oh ok

[deep pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-my-head-sigh-face-palm-gif-13396623

[junior plume]

is it worth banking the iron ore from varrock mine?

[charred holly]

Not really, not even on an iron

[junior plume]

👍

[charred holly]

There's gonna be a really nice spot for iron very close to a bank later in the mining guild

Though people usually won't even bank there lol

[junior plume]

oh ok

rn im just trying to go from 36 to 39

[charred holly]

Iron ore is just really cheap either on the GE or from the blast furnace ore seller

[junior plume]

are all the guilds available at 60 skill level?

[charred holly]

No they vary quite a lot, some start at 40

[untold sonnet]

whats the best way of finding out where crashed stars land?

i joined the channel in the game and its all talk about politics

[charred holly]

You can search for a shooting stars tracker in Google

There's multiple idk why

Wiki avoids linking a specific one too so I don't really wanna either

[untold sonnet]

thank you

[vivid coral]

Does this button tell me what my death fee would cost?

if i die in an unsafe activity

like for ex, its 500k if i die?

[rigid bronze]

wdr is one of the biggest raids servers in the game

big for lfg guides mentoring and whatnot

it was popular even before you quit

[vivid coral]

so its the main discord instead of this?

[rigid bronze]

well

[vivid coral]

like has it eclipsed official rs

[rigid bronze]

this is the official osrs discord

but if u wanna do raids

that server is better for it (also alot more guides)

[vivid coral]

tob i just did 416

and cox i solo

i played a bit w my clan before the luring/rwt shennanigans but i ditched and reported them al land shortly quit after

[rigid bronze]

right but u could look for people to raid with there and theres plenty of gear prog guides and whatnot

[vivid coral]

tru

ill noodle on it as i work on colo

[rigid bronze]

yea but with most public spaces theres bound to be scammers and lurers

they try to ban them

but they will keep cropping up

thats just how it is lol

you kinda have to take into account and also be aware

[vivid coral]

any ideas on my death q btw

like

if this is my death report , does it mean after the 100 waves completed which im almost at, 500k/death at colo?

[rigid bronze]

yes

[vivid coral]

i have a bunch of alchables in my coffer, theres no tax loss on death coffer stuffing right

[rigid bronze]

it means u pay the full price

i think death coffer u actually get a bonus

for sacraficing shit in there

[vivid coral]

ok

i have like

120m in alchables

[charred holly]

+5% iirc

[vivid coral]

good idea to coffer it?

[rigid bronze]

well idk if u can coffer alchables

i know u have to coffer over x amount

u can try

[charred holly]

10k yeah

Per item, not stack

[rigid bronze]

oh

yea then i guess stuff like rune is fine

[vivid coral]

kk ima try it

[outer horizon]

you can use the "protect item" prayer if you're especially poor

it'll keep an extra item for free

[vivid coral]

[rigid bronze]

yea those work in there

dump them in

[vale locust]

i need to do the theathre of blood for the night at the theathre quest. can somebody help me

[rigid bronze]

u can solo it just fine

its designed to be soloed

[vivid coral]

kk

ima load up deaths coffer.

[rigid bronze]

at least the entry version

[vivid coral]

its soloable but theres carries who will do it

if i wasnt learning colo id do it for you lol

why do ppl mentor anyway on wdr for colo

its a solo activity

they gain nothing

is it a ploy to gain trust to lure later?

🤔

[outer horizon]

why do charities exist if they make no profit from it 🤔

[vale locust]

i tried solo but died

[outer horizon]

why does #game-questions exist... probably to lure later

[vivid coral]

well charities do make profit its a whole crime ring but thats not game related

[outer horizon]

[rigid bronze]

tbh most of them here are in it for the love of the game

lol

[solid gale]

Most people are grown adults, no need to lure ur 50m

[weary valve]

I've carried about 20 people and just do it to help others

Don't even add them in game and delete them off my discord after

[solid gale]

I can carry u through

[weary valve]

Only carry I regretted is when a guy took an hour to gear up and didn't listen to a single instruction

[solid gale]

@vale locust grab ur best void setup, try and make ur inv close to something like this

Doesnt matter if u have it all

if u dont have elite void, that's fine too

ping me when ur rdy

[hexed frost]

Hey guys, can someone explain how the eclipse moon clone stage works? I just can't seem to get it. You're supposed to look at them, right? And yet, whenever I do that, I still get hit.

[heavy summit]

supposed to spam click face same direction as clone. Use heaviest (slowest) hitting weapon to deal ideal damage utilizing the fast attack speed for clone phase

what weapon are you using

[hexed frost]

zombie axe

[weak orchid]

Attack each one once

[hexed frost]

I'll try spam clicking

[wet lodge]

Look at them a short bit after they spawn, once the first one spawns you just click that direction, then the next direction and so forth

[heavy summit]

yeah so just spam the exact tile in the right direction

[wet lodge]

you click the ground

not the moon

[hexed frost]

Yeah that's what I was doing

[glass burrow]

Click each clone as soon as they appear

Ignore your own attack animations, they don't matter here

[hexed frost]

Okay. I'll try that. Thank you.

[vivid coral]

click the shadow instead of the moon thats what i do

when you see the circle appear click it as it appears

[wet lodge]

yeah you got about 1 second after it spawns to click that direction

[glass burrow]

You should be turning during the attack animation which will look a bit janky but it's intended

[hexed frost]

Right. Let's see how it goes XD

Thank you all.

[brave plinth]

I prefer clicking on one of the 8 adjacent tiles next to my character to face the right way

Less mouse movement needed

[viral vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[obsidian pasture]

When I saw the word "alternatives" I was like "Oh if you don't have a fire cape just equip an inferno cape"

[solid gale]

It's for the learn tob discord. We've set a minimum requirement for people to join

but obv if u have infernal cape, use that over fire cape

[hexed frost]

Okay, looking at the clones before worked. And I used the squares around my character.

The ball still sucks though XD

Thanks guys.

[weary valve]

I'm surprised you don't suggest a divine scb for 1 of the pots

[deep pagoda]

To help folks

[rigid bronze]

people just like helping

tbh

thats why people get so frustrated and frankly, passionate about the topic there lol

whenever people insist on doing things in ways they deem a lot more painful

[proper sinew]

Be sure to turn off your running and just walk alongside it ^^
If you get real good at it, you run just a tiny bit at the start when you can move, so you're at the front half of the ball. And then you just walk the whole wy. It's quite leisurely once you get it down 👍

[hexed frost]

I do, but I am timing it wrong. I end up walking along side it, then falling behind.

[proper sinew]

Then you're probably misclicking when it gets to the corners or something. You walk at the exact same speed as the ball, so that shouldn't happen

It's designed to wait at the corners just long enough for you to get to its side before it starts up again. Always possible to have to microadjust a little, turning on the run for a quick sec and running like 1 tile then turning it off again. Again, it becomes more comfortable and natural over time ^^

I'm pretty new to bossing and bad at the game in general, but it's gotten comfy for even me. You got it :)

[viral vortex]

Do you have true/current tile and destination tile highlights enabled?

technically your character model drags behind your true tile a little, and can be misleading as to where you actually are in relation to the orb

[hexed frost]

I have true tiles, yes.

[viral vortex]

But yeah you should never stop walking. As stated the orb stops long enough for you to round the corner without having to switch to run or anything

at least… from what I remember.
I would have remembered the pain of flipping quickly between walk/run on mobile.

[hexed frost]

Someone told me about using control tos witch but it seems SO inconsistent

[vivid coral]

if i clear fremmies and south spawn really fast, is it better to hang out for 40s to let the reinforcements be ez, or just start solving stack immediately?

[tidal falcon]

Herb runs just used to sell herbs or is it worth making potions?

[short prism]

You can get some free damage, if mino is coming make sure you don’t take them below the heal threshold

[vivid oriole]

with 99 mage/range/str and this gear, what is the minimal amount of swaps and prayers that need to be used to 1 shot babboons in toa

[vivid coral]

if you make potions dont you save on the tax loss from selling if you wind up buying later

[vivid oriole]

by the way is there a plugin that highlights baboons with the color of the style they're weak to? like the one in Doom

[glass burrow]

Pretty sure the ToA plugin has a whole tab dedicated just to baboon highlighting

[deep pagoda]

2

Camp rigour

Bring a bp

[vivid oriole]

Hmm yeah looks like all it does is highlight their color which you can clearly see anyways. i'd probably prefer to edit it to the color they're weak to but hopefully i don't mess it up

[vivid oriole]

2 what

[glass burrow]

You can absolutely edit the colors in the plugin

[deep pagoda]

Switches

Use vw over fang for waves

For boulder you want a bp

Ideally

If solo then bowfa is ok

In teams it’s ass

[vivid oriole]

For a 150, (curious if answer is different for solo or teams) should i bring VW + bgs + DDS?

[rigid bronze]

bring all 3 yea

all of them are useful

[oak geode]

is there a way to hide the boat button in combat tab?

[lost pewter]

guys my boat is completely stuck here, wont rotate in any direction. I have 15m in marlin in my cargo, any tips? T_T

[oak geode]

tried going back?

[rigid bronze]

can u go in reverse?

[lost pewter]

yeah it goes like 2 back and stops again

never seen this before

i dont even know what to tried in the bug report LOL

[upbeat topaz]

About to do a f2p DP do y'all have any recommended items for it? Limit is 1.5m

[junior plume]

can other players steal my pizzas from agility courses if i dont pick them up?

[wet lodge]

mmm free rooftop pizzas. breaking bad. (Anytime you drop an item there is a timer that ticks down, when it gets to halfway ticked down anyone can take the item if its a tradeable item, press Alt to see the timer)

[junior plume]

[wet lodge]

green = only i can see the item, yellow = anyone can see it, timer up = item gone.

[junior plume]

oo

[wet lodge]

this works a bit different depending on where you are like the wilderness or placing items on a table or in an instanced boss area

clues also have longer drop timer

[junior plume]

can't ironman players techincally trade btw?

by just dropping items

[stone smelt]

more like donate

[wet lodge]

Ironmen can't pick up items

They can drop items to others though

So if you get a spare tbow on your ironman you can drop it to your main

[junior plume]

ooh okay

[lost pewter]

had 4 people in my cc try to get out of here, no success

[rigid bronze]

rest in peace

15m in fish

[lost pewter]

most expensive recovery ever

[winged oasis]

im famous

[vivid coral]

shockwave colossus has same range as the jav tossers right

[weary valve]

So far

[weary valve]

Yes iirc

[vivid coral]

ugh

made a few mistakes and pulled out at wave 8 again

learning though

i dont die that often i just get annoyed cause i took damage when i knew i shouldnt have cuz i brainfart

at least its... profitable if i dont die? lol

its fun

i like it

[oak geode]

good content

are you using the los tool?

[vivid coral]

ye

[final pelican]

Need help with the hero’s quest

[solid gale]

This is the learn tob's min requirements
I'd agree a div scb is good, but as a learner when you brew so much, it doesn't matter a bunch

[daring spindle]

Shield of Arrav / Heroes Quest

If you are looking for a partner for the Shield of Arrav or Heroes' Quest, join the chat channel osrs soa and they can assist you there.

[weak socket]

@final pelican ^^

[final pelican]

Thank!

[rigid bronze]

yea i feel like learners should stick with reg scbs until they get comfy

and then switch to divines

[solid gale]

I agree. I try not to overwhelm them too much as a mentor :P

[rigid bronze]

for sure

thats why they are in that void setup

they get plenty of pots to just brew up like crazy

[solid gale]

yea :)

[rigid bronze]

longer they stay alive longer they get to learn the mechanics

thats why i hate people who go "yea but why not let them bring their bandos and whip"

mfer they will die and watch from the chair the entire raid and learn nothing

[vivid coral]

^

[rigid bronze]

😭

[vivid coral]

i rather they live and eat

dead = zdps

[rigid bronze]

longer they live and eat as well

they have to interact with the mechanic longer

so they end up learning

maybe not dpsing but dodging lol

[solid gale]

we had some dude write a reddit post complaining about us

[vivid coral]

who is us

somebody crashed out in the league chat at me

[rigid bronze]

yea but those guys dont wanna learn

[vivid coral]

[rigid bronze]

lmao

[vivid coral]

i wouldnt be surprised if im on reddit

[rigid bronze]

oh yea btw

[rigid bronze]

since the last time u tobbed was 2020

[vivid coral]

ye

[rigid bronze]

we no longer do n 13 n 24 s 13 s24

its just

north 123 and south 124 at the very least

bare bones

[vivid coral]

oic

[solid gale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/0n6UqWHWMh

[rigid bronze]

otherwise in proper teams its north all

and then south mage does 12 but backs up if north is late

[solid gale]

This guy thought we were "toxic" because he didn't meet min requirements to become a learner in learn tob

[rigid bronze]

oh

[vivid coral]

WDR is not a learning discord. Its a team finding discord.

[rigid bronze]

ur a mentor in aaty's server

[vivid coral]

Is there a learning discord?

[rigid bronze]

i think it used to be

[vivid coral]

aaty is still around?

that guy helped me learn tob

[rigid bronze]

aaty opened his own tob discord

called

Learn tob

and if this is the same server

then @solid gale is a mentor in aaty's personal learning tob discord server

[vivid coral]

kek

someone told me wdr had a coloseum learning channel

was debating joining but im noided af

[solid gale]

Yea

I'm a friend of a hard carry, he made me a mentor (I still went through the verification process BTW) ❤️🙏

I'm the one who made his thumbnails on youtube

[rigid bronze]

so now the roles are
south (12 and backup) mage role
north melee freeze (1234 or 123)
ranged dps (they might bring chins)
and melee dps (they bring thralls or venge) and if you wanna really sweat it out for the dps roles, you go on lunars, bring venge, bring spellbook swap, bring book of the dead for thralls and summon thralls and on top of that bring runes for death charge

[vivid coral]

i have to unlock thralls

keep forgetting its a thing

after colo for sure

yes i know they help at colo dont wanna hear it

i knwo death chage is good

its fine

[rigid bronze]

and at sotetseg spec roles also depend on ur role

like

[vivid coral]

elder mauls a thing too now right

is it just better dwh

[rigid bronze]

in a 4 man mage is spec order back up
melee freeze is 13
rdps is 23
mdps is 12

[rigid bronze]

yea thank god

[vivid coral]

my friend stockpiled

like hundreds of elder mauls

[rigid bronze]

i can now switch from hammer to scythe and my avernic doesnt go into narnia

[vivid coral]

6-7 years ago

he had a kid tho so hasnt been on

[rigid bronze]

i simply dont need avernic anymore

[vivid coral]

i never bought avernic

never seemed worth

defenders, not the new boots

[rigid bronze]

worth if u have max gear tbh

[vivid coral]

those boots seem hella worth

[rigid bronze]

oh no

new boots are also like

hella not worth

[vivid coral]

200m some shit?

[rigid bronze]

unless max gear

ye

tho

[vivid coral]

my gear is old af

[rigid bronze]

its a hell lot better than avernic hilt tho

lmao

[solid gale]

i can show u my tob setup

[rigid bronze]

but u buy both avernic items post megas

[solid gale]

which role u wanna see?

[vivid coral]

me? none right now, im glued to colo till i clear it

[rigid bronze]

tbh i just use the wdr one

keeps it easy for me

[vivid coral]

i need to sell shit from my lot tab and but gear upgrades at some pt

i bought masori last night for colo

but i mjust worknig on figuring out waves.

im comfy w sol, just need to figure waves

just annoying to sell stuff in my loot tab cuz i have random piles of like

[rigid bronze]

L botter i swear cheaters have the biggest egos too

[vivid coral]

hundreds of alchables etc

[solid gale]

lmaoo

true

[rigid bronze]

dhcb could also get yeeted if u have tbow unless u also vork

i also see u have both sang and swamp trident for some reason

[vivid coral]

done w vork, grinded for pet

[vivid coral]

i bought sang cuz i was doing solo cox right b4 quit

but its kinda buns now i guess

[rigid bronze]

well its not like u have 900m lying around

for a shadow

[vivid coral]

i have 600m

[rigid bronze]

like even if u sold ur ancestral (which tripled in price at one point since shadow)

[vivid coral]

w/o selling too much

in the loot tab

[rigid bronze]

id def sell alot of stuff for shadow tho

[vivid coral]

yea

[rigid bronze]

its a nuke magic stick

[vivid coral]

after colo ill do some re-org

i dont think i need shadow for colo

scy/tbow will work fine

[rigid bronze]

yea for sure

shadow is more for cox and toa

[halcyon scroll]

For some reason i am not getting rewards I am area locked in leagues and do not have access to Misthalin/edgeville can I still get rewards?

[rigid bronze]

shadow nukes the fuck outta mage hand

[rigid bronze]

max hit with overload ancestral max mage with shadow i think is like

69?

at cox

maybe its 70 now

[solid gale]

I need black chins + zcb for max... Currently at nex tryna get the zcb

[rigid bronze]

and its stupid accurate

[weary valve]

Missing more than just that for max

[solid gale]

well, I rarely mage, so besides an arcane, I'm good

[rigid bronze]

arcane isnt that useful anyways

we have [[eldinis ward f]]

[half slate]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Elidinis'_ward_(f)

[solid gale]

Well it's a max hit when maging

[rigid bronze]

new bis mage offhand

[weary valve]

I assume that's what they meant

[solid gale]

I need arcane for that :P

[rigid bronze]

yep

xD

[deep pagoda]

Ghommals penny

Don’t use a blessing or that if you have a quiver

Shits so ass

[rigid bronze]

the kpop stan tech IYKYK

[solid gale]

Nah, helps save charges, don't need a blessing. And I have a quiver

[deep pagoda]

Save charges 😭

Equip quiver

[solid gale]

Scythe eats a lot

[deep pagoda]

If you miss a switch, it’s cooked

Using a bow

Is why

Is this for trios or

[solid gale]

These are for HMT/trios

[rigid bronze]

tbf ur at the point of not giving a single fuck about gp

[weary valve]

Never missed a switch in my life

[deep pagoda]

Then ye

[solid gale]

I don't miss a tick tho, I switch bow+quiver same time

[deep pagoda]

For hmt, ideally 4/5s and you should be using an actual barrage staff

[rigid bronze]

ur making billions so spending a few mil is not a big deal lol

[solid gale]

Are we ignoring my ice ancient sceptre?

[weary valve]

[deep pagoda]

Yeah doesn’t mean shit outside of trios

[solid gale]

I am an iron. GP is the only scarcity I have

I need runes

[rigid bronze]

ohhh

iron

[deep pagoda]

Ice sceptre doesn’t do anything

[deep pagoda]

Only need a reg sceptre in trios

Need a tsotd/nm staff or kodai

[solid gale]

Increases acc on ice spells, so if you go with a void range setup, you don't need more than a 4way switch

[deep pagoda]

It literally doesn’t do much man

[solid gale]

• it freezes for 35 ticks instead of 32

[deep pagoda]

I pot eff

[solid gale]

so good for pogstacking

[deep pagoda]

That also doesn’t add to much I’m telling you

[solid gale]

If you pot eff, then you know how much those extra ticks matter

[deep pagoda]

Pogstacking is such a bad term 😭

Hate it here

[vivid coral]

pogs? like the stupid disc game?

i have mine in an old magic the gathering tin

[deep pagoda]

But ice sceptre/reg sceptre is the same shit basically

[solid gale]

Not at all

[deep pagoda]

I promise you

[solid gale]

u ice rush?

Besides, why would I use a reg sceptre when I have an ice sceptre that freezes for longer lol

Helps when skipping 30's too

[deep pagoda]

This is my setup for max eff trios

Skipping has always been free

Can skip with folks bping maiden

[solid gale]

Depends who you're sending with. If you're doing hmt with randoms or teaching learners, then no :P

[deep pagoda]

With learners you can skip

In hmt hopefully they have learned the basics of tob

[solid gale]

With learners, the extra time helps

[deep pagoda]

Barely

[solid gale]

Why are you trying to argue for using a worse sceptre when you have a better option? 😂

[deep pagoda]

Because it’s barely a difference

It works on unfrozen crabs

[solid gale]

Not a single pneck?

[halcyon scroll]

Is it possible to get wilderness diary rewards without mithalin unlock?

[solid gale]

this is not "eff tob setup" sorry bud

[weary valve]

Yeah, the guy is in ferox

[deep pagoda]

Replace an angler with one

Forgot to put it in

[solid gale]

Look at some of AHC's videos

they're quite helpful for learning eff tob

[last bramble]

Am I missing something or is the crush progression super weird? There's such a massive gap between the bludgeon / chainmace / cudgel level and the next level (inq mace and soulreaper), the progression goes from like ~10 mil to 200 mil right away

[deep pagoda]

I know him 😂

[weary valve]

yes

[deep pagoda]

But yeah missing a pneck and arguing for a shitter staff is interesting

[solid gale]

So do I. I made most of his thumbnails

[oak geode]

yeah crush is ass wait for raid 4

[deep pagoda]

I mod with him

[solid gale]

U should go argue with him about ice sceptre bro 😂

[weary valve]

I kiss his ass better than any of you two do

[solid gale]

Besides, I don't pot eff tob often, I have no reason to

unless it's for fun

[oak geode]

nobody kisses my ass 🥀

[deep pagoda]

It’s just useless in hmt is my point

[last bramble]

I feel kinda goofy fighting araxxor with a cudgel, while running on a fang or noxious hally for the other styles which definitely feel like a step up compared to the cudgel level

[deep pagoda]

Use in trios

[solid gale]

It's not, it's the same as a regular sceptre with more accuracy and longer freeze timing

[deep pagoda]

By all means

[last bramble]

But there's just nothing in between

[weary valve]

Zammy hasta might be the step up from cudgel

but yeah after that it's not great

[deep pagoda]

Yeah hasta is nice

[last bramble]

Oh is it? Let me dps calc

[deep pagoda]

Well you pot it for moneys if you can

[solid gale]

We've all been there. I used ursine chainmace

[solid gale]

I'm an iron. What do u want me to use money for?

[deep pagoda]

Money raidings not actual money

[solid gale]

I already logged every unique

[oak geode]

bludgeon was my goat

[deep pagoda]

You pot for drops

[solid gale]

What do I want drops for bro? 😭

[deep pagoda]

Yeah if you haven’t logged 😭

It’s just a term

[solid gale]

I got like 1k kc

I've logged 😭

[deep pagoda]

Money raiding

Lucky guy

[solid gale]

I'm free bro

I have like 3 things I enjoy doing

[deep pagoda]

That’s good

[solid gale]

Speedruns to get better, coaching learners, and hmt

[rigid bronze]

i think its just a term people use for "casual" raiding (but its still efficient)

[deep pagoda]

Hmt 😭

[deep pagoda]

Yeah

[solid gale]

yea, I want the dust

[weary valve]

I like kissing women, but you do you I guess

[solid gale]

U gotta get back too

[rigid bronze]

oh yea? how often do you see maiden

[solid gale]

we can't be caught using the holy kit out in these streets

[deep pagoda]

Well speeds you ideally want a better staff 👀

[oak geode]

holy kit bis

[deep pagoda]

Only post radiant

[solid gale]

I would if I were freezing

[weary valve]

Far too often

[rigid bronze]

😭

[deep pagoda]

Standing on blood is tech

Scuffed maiden im out

Even in moneys

[solid gale]

humid bloat and skipping maze is tech

[weary valve]

Purposely going under verzik to get that spider milk

[deep pagoda]

Gotta get past maiden brick

[oak geode]

yo can you elaborate on this strategy?

[solid gale]

Just get a sub 1:20 and keep it pushing

[deep pagoda]

Free

[solid gale]

whats ur trio pb?

[deep pagoda]

But I only pot eff or learners

[solid gale]

These days I only pot hmt or learners

haven't done eff in a while

[deep pagoda]

Pb is ass 😭 it’s like a 15:2x

I haven’t sent in over a year till just before leagues

[solid gale]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

Maybe it'd be better if you used an ice ancient sceptre

(trolling)

[deep pagoda]

Nah

[solid gale]

[deep pagoda]

But s15 is free in like a few sends

[solid gale]

You'd save a lit of time if u humid bloat tho

[oak geode]

pot s15 duo toa

[solid gale]

do u skip maze?

[deep pagoda]

Was with a dude who hasn’t potted eff in 2+ years

Nah haven’t

[solid gale]

saves like you half a minute

[deep pagoda]

No need to humid unless rec really

Just gonna money it

[solid gale]

just if you want a vintage time

[rigid bronze]

yall still remember hato and haiyo's drama about faking a cox pb

xd

[solid gale]

ngl, I've never heard of them

[deep pagoda]

At least I copped an actual pb

In cox

[solid gale]

U do got me beat on 1 thing tho

I don't have a a zcb :(

Biggest thing holding me back

[deep pagoda]

Ye

Send nex

[deep pagoda]

https://youtu.be/OIANaIs8Iik

[solid gale]

Have you tried pognexxing?

[deep pagoda]

Hawly

I finished hmt before pog became a thing

Hate it but I’m an old head

[solid gale]

Smh

[deep pagoda]

Stacking was always default in my raids

[last bramble]

Chat, another gear question - Virtus is at roughly 80m right now. I am contemplating getting a set. Not sure if it's worth the "in-between" price tag between ahrims / bloodbark and at some point ancestral.

[solid gale]

U do know pogwebs atleast, right?

or what did u guys use to do back in the days during hmts

[deep pagoda]

Only learn it recently as I did random tobs

2 pile and hitting every 5 ticks

[solid gale]

U gotta do it for hmt

otherwise it's trolling atleast

[deep pagoda]

Not really

[solid gale]

u boak?

[deep pagoda]

Always

[solid gale]

good man

[deep pagoda]

But I had humans in the raid

[solid gale]

absolutely

[deep pagoda]

Just hit every 5t and it’s dead before yellows

Nowadays it’s req because people are shit

And good tobbers peaced

[solid gale]

what do u do when ur tm8 isnt running pogwebs and melees ur entire team

or drags him to the moon

[deep pagoda]

Realistically doesn’t save time but is qol if folks miss hits

[solid gale]

Makes every verzik the same

nice and consistent

[deep pagoda]

Yeah

But I didn’t have that problem

[solid gale]

It does so you never miss a tick

[deep pagoda]

And if I take learners now I make sure they understand reg tob

But most newer folks learn it now anyway

[solid gale]

Well, it's very easy, there's no reason not to do it

and it ensures nobody on the team misses a tick

the boss doesn't move

and unless your dps is garbage, you'll skip yellows everytime

[deep pagoda]

Yeah for sure

[placid jewel]

Holy scythe hits harder

[deep pagoda]

Not against it per say

But folks learn that over actual useful stuff

[prime lichen]

What happen with plugins to mobile and new hd on game and on mobile ?

[solid gale]

What's your argument that pogwebs isn't useful?

[deep pagoda]

#mobile-general

[rigid bronze]

do u have shadow

if not

then it doesnt matter much

[deep pagoda]

No argument. Just that folks learn that over something like 5t xarp or better nylos

[solid gale]

nylos for sure I agree with u

but basically everyone who knows pogwebs knows 5t xarp

[deep pagoda]

Seen more 5.3 but then again I barely pot nowadays. Only take newer friends

[solid gale]

It's been a while since I raided with someone who doesn't 5t xarp. Even if you do 5,3t you're not messing your team up. You just lose a few ticks

if your team doesn't pogweb, you can fuck everyone over

in my experience, if you don't pogweb hmt, you're likely not good at tanking either, so you'll either drag him around causing us to get torned or melee'd

[deep pagoda]

Yeah I mean I barely pot it nowadays. Once in a while I will. When leagues is over I will with friends and ho want to learn eff

[solid gale]

I missed tob during leagues

[deep pagoda]

Yeah different experience

[solid gale]

took me like 3 weeks to get dragon cup

[grave inlet]

what is the fastest way to get slayer points without caring about exp or profit?

[deep pagoda]

When I sent it everyone could tank and we just l movement into a scythe

[solid gale]

mazchna skipping

[placid jewel]

Duo mach and konar 50th/100th

[solid gale]

Do 9 turael skips - 1 mazchna task every 10th, konar every 50th

[placid jewel]

Turael if u dont have a mach blocklist

Make sure u duo

Almost twice as fast!!

U can get like 2k pts in less than 90mins

[solid gale]

Eff tob is fun to do. But since I have everything except sang kit and dust

I don't care about loot

so only reason I send is to get better myself, get a pb, or teach learners

[placid jewel]

Tob is completely dead cus it makes no gp outside of scythe

[solid gale]

or hmt ofc

[solid gale]

In which world is tob completely dead 💀

[deep pagoda]

Yeah I just pot moneys

[solid gale]

It's the best money maker in the gamer next to doom and duo nex

[grave inlet]

9 turael skips means?

[placid jewel]

U dont make gp there anymore if u dont get a scythe tho

[last bramble]

Nowhere close lol, I'm on confliction gauntlets + ayak for the foreseeable future

[solid gale]

Do turael tasks, every 10 tasks u do a mazchna for 30 points, and every 50th you do a konar task for the point reward

[rigid bronze]

have u seen the people egoing kc and then check hiscores and they dont have tob kc main game

[rigid bronze]

then not yet, conflict+ayak good for now

[grave inlet]

ooo okie ty!

[solid gale]

You do. Avernics drop all the time and you get them often.

[solid gale]

And everytime u do get a scythe which is like 1/150 u get a quick 500m

[placid jewel]

Trio avernic is 12m

[solid gale]

And u can send 4 raids an hour

[placid jewel]

No u cant

[solid gale]

Yes you can

[placid jewel]

4 raids an hour is 15minute overall time

U are not getting that with banking

[solid gale]

banking is less than 40 tics

[placid jewel]

Fastest downtime in tob is like 1:28

So u need to average 13:30 challenge time ~ to get 4 raids an hr

Dont make sht up

[solid gale]

if u send money raids, sub 13:30 is normal

[placid jewel]

That isnt a trio lol

We were just talking about trio avernic

[solid gale]

That's a 4man true

U can still easily get sub 14 in a trio

[placid jewel]

?

U cant get sub 14 in a moneyraid

[solid gale]

at worst it's like 3,8 raids/hr

which still is 17m+/hr

[placid jewel]

Even if it was 17/hr u arent getting 3.8 raids an hr

14:30 wave time average (unrealistic) with 0 downtime is 3.75 raids an hr

If u factor in banking it's closer to 3.5

And no one who needs gp is getting 3.5 an hr

[solid gale]

Usually most of the people sending money raids don't need the gp

they do it for the love of the game

[placid jewel]

So for gp doom is simply better yea

Theater is obsolete unless u enjoy it for whatever reason

[solid gale]

Yea doom is #1

nex duo and tob duo are close i think

[solid gale]

Best raid in the game, what's not to enjoy

[placid jewel]

It's almost 9 years old

If ur a new player u might enjoy it for a bit sure

[solid gale]

Yea, had a guy accuse me of buying my infernal cape once, checked out his profile. He had no boss kc, zuk, 1 quiver with 51k glory 😭

[solid gale]

Still the best raid imo

Unfortunately it is also the most elitist, and a lot of people struggle to get into it

[placid jewel]

Playerbase is casual

Raid and its strats are not that difficult to efficiently moneyraid

[rigid bronze]

tbf idk if its elitist to get into tob, maybe if u mean pushing for harder stuff but that reddit post proves that even setting minimal standards people will throw a fit

[placid jewel]

Runey players are just dumb

[solid gale]

I know a lot of people from my clan haven't touched it before they find it difficult to get into

[placid jewel]

Weedpvmers were arguing about bow being good at xarp cus it feels better to shoot with a bow than blowpipe it down

[solid gale]

Not everyone knows about the resources for it, or the learner discord

weedpvmers 💀

[placid jewel]

But runescape is a yes or no game either bow or blowpipe is better at 0 defence there isnt a reason to bow

[rigid bronze]

ive linked resources to people and they still cry about it like they sit around waiting for u to carry them to a kc

and if ur not on

they simply wont raid

[placid jewel]

It's not like league where u can change build situationally

[solid gale]

At 0 defence, tbow usually sucks

Even a tent whip would be better

[placid jewel]

Yes ofc but people will use different weapons at rooms for no reason

[solid gale]

Most people don't know that tbow is 2nd bis at sote either

[placid jewel]

Even though everything is already solved

[severe hare]

https://tenor.com/view/no-hell-serious-stare-gif-12545658

[placid jewel]

[gilded steeple]

Hot take. It's a game and people can play as they want to tbf

[still stirrup]

Is there ever a reason to do shared exp when leveling up melee combat skills?

[placid jewel]

Yeah lets just use something worse for fun

Play how u want

[solid gale]

Nothing feels better than getting a learner his first deathless kc tho

[rigid bronze]

Hot take i know but i think people are allowed to not get screwed over just because someone wants to troll for fun (at least in team enviroments)

xd

like solos sure

do whatever u want

[solid gale]

True, but we're not obligated to take them then 😎

[rigid bronze]

its even better when theres a purple and u pull someone that has value

esp if its like learner scythes

or bows

[solid gale]

In a few days AHC is gonna upload a vid where he got 4 hmt'ers with 0 kc their first completition

It's peak content

[placid jewel]

V*ntage

😭

[solid gale]

Naah, they were just reg learners

[placid jewel]

Also leagues tob was so bad

[solid gale]

I bet

I assume most people didnt know how to tob in leagues 😭

[placid jewel]

Executioner is too good there but it's not very good elsewhere

[solid gale]

But tried to brute force kc

[rigid bronze]

i think in leagues tob, i was 0/10 for getting past maiden for hmts

in the mass world

[solid gale]

Saw the nicest ironman ever pull a scythe once

[rigid bronze]

[solid gale]

I was so happy for lil bro

[placid jewel]

Im still playing cus i have dad work schedule

54/65

[rigid bronze]

i have the same amount of points

[solid gale]

Nice, I finished like 10 days ago

I wasn't enjoying the last 10k points

[rigid bronze]

55k points atm

[solid gale]

just wanted it overwith

set my butler to get me 50m herb xp by the time league ends

gonna login once more for an extra 600 points

[placid jewel]

I've just been playing other games while afking gatherable skills

[solid gale]

u an iron or a main rookie?

[placid jewel]

50m wc/fm/fishing/mining is turbopts

I only play main

[rigid bronze]

if i was in that raid i would have taken a split off him

xD

no ffas for me

[solid gale]

It was ffa

I have gotten a scythe split from an iron before in an ffa raid

[rigid bronze]

dang

[placid jewel]

Tree chiller

[solid gale]

before i got my own scythe, he had gotten his 4th

and he felt bad and gave us 500m each

[rigid bronze]

i got a scythe split from a iron but he had a rich main

[solid gale]

Sweet

I got a rich main too

dont play it tho

[rigid bronze]

i dont play iron much tbh

[solid gale]

My iron has 10,1b

[placid jewel]

Ironman is too much effort i just do stuff that i enjoy

[rigid bronze]

i played on a iron for like 4 months

and then i just swapped to main again

[placid jewel]

And iron has me do stuff i dont wanna do

[solid gale]

Only early/midgame iron was a bit of a pain gathering resources

Now an iron is basically a main with minimal chores

[placid jewel]

If i do make one tho i think it would be pretty easy

[solid gale]

Only thing that sucks is speedrunning tob, since I can't trade

[placid jewel]

Just follow boaty guide or something and then do solo cox or w/e

Iron tob doesnt sound that fun

[solid gale]

It is now with all the midgame power creep

and low reqs to get into doom

[solid gale]

It is

[rigid bronze]

i dont like iron because it feels like i have to eat my vegetables before having dessert

[solid gale]

Just tough to speedrun efficiently without trading

[rigid bronze]

in that sense lol

[solid gale]

U should always eat ur vegetables before having desert

[placid jewel]

I dont see the point of speedrunning on an iron anyway

[rigid bronze]

i got sick of my month of herb runs

[placid jewel]

Cant do inferno cus need infinite melee gear + scythe

Cant do tob cus trading cant do cm cus need sweets

[solid gale]

it's fun + good pb

[placid jewel]

I am not a fan of speedrunning in this game anyway takes too long to get a good time

And someone worse than u will have a better time cus they spent more hours anyway

[solid gale]

Im not tryna go for rec, just tryna get a goated pb on an iron

It is fun, but if u dont enjoy it, then there's no need to do it obv

[placid jewel]

[solid gale]

[solid gale]

I usually go insane with herb runs for a month or two

and then I don't touch them for half a year

Tob gives a shitton of herbs tho

[rigid bronze]

see even then

im like

"god but i need to make pots now fuckkk"

[rigid bronze]

yea noty

[solid gale]

Good on pots so far (dont look at my sanfews)

[rigid bronze]

"ah yes i have to now kill nail beasts thanks jagex"

[solid gale]

I've had the craziest luck in the last 2 days tho

I tried to show a friend how to do zulrah, and I ended up getting pet during that 1 kc

[rigid bronze]

thats nice

im still looking to greenlog zulrah

im missing tanz mutagen

[solid gale]

The day after I got mole pet + mole skin same kc

[rigid bronze]

mole pet is great

i should go back for it

[solid gale]

It's nice for brews

But I don't think I'll ever need brews again

Might go chase like 1k kc or something, get all of these toadflax used up

[solid gale]

What u working on atm?

[rigid bronze]

tbh

as a main im just farming gp so i have a surplus of gp for new content

[solid gale]

Wanna join me at nex?

[rigid bronze]

im trying to natty a yama pet rn

[solid gale]

Gonna run some trios mp2

[rigid bronze]

ah i dont like nex tho

and i havent tried melee yet

[solid gale]

Nex is a cash cow, and melee is very easy

[rigid bronze]

i was one of those massers like week 1 of nex

i just solo yama

lol

and make my money there

[solid gale]

That's like 50 times harder than nex

[rigid bronze]

and try and natty a pet

[solid gale]

Idk how good money yama is tho

Can u buy those pet contracts on ge for yama?

If so, that's broken

[rigid bronze]

yea u can

its like 400k or something

i cba learning it

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but it makes it 1/100

so like 40m

[rigid bronze]

so im just nattying it

[solid gale]

yama contracts were fun

I wish they made divine severance into regular yama

[rigid bronze]

its okay money

[solid gale]

Yea, I did 1,3k kc and only got 2 pieces

:((

[rigid bronze]

i got lucky

i also got 2 oathplate contracts from the dossiar

and 1 oathplate chest from the box

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I got one of those too

Threw it in the coffer, wasn't gonna attempt it

or spend all the gp on my main trying it out

[rigid bronze]

have u seen noobtype farming that shit

its insane lol

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I have, it looks ridiculous

[rigid bronze]

did u know

he did all the contracts in one inventory

as a challenge

[solid gale]

yea

[rigid bronze]

😭 thats absurd lol

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I've also seen someone do all contracts in one inv