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Yeah I am not fan of those task only bosses
Can't get Araxyte tasks, small fraction of Cerb tasks, etc.
Highest-level slayer master can't even assign the highest-level slayer master
Highest-level slayer master assigns trash mobs like trolls and kalphites
Those should be optional unlocks at most similar to Basilisks and lizardmen
Trolls for trolling
Trolls should work with bandos
Ww got zammy and arma tasks
Hydras are the most trolling task a regular hydra takes almost if not even longer to kill than the boss itself
smaller ones, have to many things going on, should either have 1 specific style they attack with and poison or only switch between 2 w/o poison
even if they were simpler, you're still not gonna want to kill them
Badnoes ain’t a troll
Bandos is an Ourg
we don't actually know what kind of creature Bandos is exactly
He's an alien, ascended before Armadyl, so he's not explicitly an Ourg
He's from a specific tribe of an unknown race
RS3 lore says he's the last of his kind, whatever it is, and Ourgs are a race that he later created on Yu'biusk
along with goblins, ogres, etc
as well as trolls
Wish he never made trolls
^
I don't really mean that though, the troll quests are solid
cannoning ice trolls on jatizso is not bad
Again, xp/hr kinda irrelevant because there's 50m slayer xp worth of stuff to get
yeah i mean more like it's relatively quick and there's some drops that are worth picking up
which already makes it better than a lot of slayer tasks lol
It makes sense, the high level masters are still servants of Guthix to assign you mobs who are overpopulated
I think high level masters only assigning high level monsters would be a mistake
It'd make the skill pretty busted
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The only slayer master who ever talks explicitly about balance is Konar, who explicitly does not follow Guthix
is it confirmed that the blue volcano people explicitly don't worship guthix?
very explicitly yes
the tasakaal call Guthix a pretender
plus given the name of the music track [[ful to the brim]], and rs3 lore knowledge, it's pretty clear that they serve the elder god Ful
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ful_to_the_Brim
who is the one that created the tzhaar
He's a namekian
space worm :D
such sick artwork 
For what
this was from a "cutscene" (slideshow) for a quest
Bloodmoon?
Looks like rs3
Oh ew
Looks cool 🤷♂️
It looks like a graphic that I'm glad is nowhere near this game
Yeah, the worm or wyrm is cool. Not rs3 lol
btw wouldnt dmm w345 be up right now?
and points available in the shop
they said 12AM UTC
Yes, Monday 12AM UTC
ya would be a bit weird for them to do when they're still outta office
tbh half the tasks in Kuradel dont make sense
I wish they gave kuradel burning claws rather than dragon
Makes way more sense in the lore
the new rewards will be accessible on wednesday
New rewards will be ready around Christmas
They’re dropping the new rewards next dmm
345 not open yet?
the world to transfer points was supposed to open 10 minutes ago but it's still offline.
The new season reawards are on wednesday
@ember token source?
Check #game-news
guys i need a source
They’ve said multiple times
Where?
thank you
It literaly says monday? i dont get it
You get your points Monday
They update the game Wednesday
So they will add the new items Wednesday with the update
The Deadman: Annihilation rewards will be available to purchase from Nigel in Lumbridge Graveyard on the 25th of February. Note that you'll need to switch to Permanent Deadman worlds first, then to the regular worlds where your points will transfer over.
this shouldve been in the gamenews post rather than buried in the 25th anniversary blog
thats funny that you think that a post on the discord isn't buried, but being in a blog post IS buried
Regardless if the shop opens on the 25th or not, they stated that the world would be open at 12:00 on monday, and it just isn’t. Which is why they are dumb af
alr, guess we just sitting around waiting for no reason
i wouldnt call a game update posted in their official discord in a channel labeled "game news" buried but putting information about a pvp mode at the bottom of a blog that is about the 25th anniversary event is
zero issue with waiting till the 25th but their ability to share information needs reworked
many many people are not in this discord or do not use discord at all
wouldve been quite simple to make an ammendment to that discord post either adding that info, or the link to the 25th blog
whereas what you're calling a blog about the event is actually just the weekly update blog, which regularly contains info such as this
im just saying its clearly caused alot of avoidable confusion
ngl it was confusing for sure
and now i'm even more confused on , what to expect of the prices of the cosmetics 😄
what you can expect is that hundreds of people will be rushing the shop right after the update to try and sell the old rewards for the inflated prices
i get there is some biased opinions on how information is spread due to being ambassadors but reading and replying to what your seeing right now in the old school discord chat can you actually not just admit this was pointlessly convoluted and would of been very easily amended to avoid this ensuing confusion that has taken place
they certainly should've said something about w345 by now, if not 30 minutes ago
its likely a traffic issue, unexpectant of the amount of people trying to login to that world may cause some issues
cant really be a traffic issue when the option to login into it doesnt exist
thats what im saying theyre maybe not ready to handle the traffic for when it does
simpler to have an unannounced delayed release to lower traffic than it would be to just turn it on and deal with complaint of world being full
idk, the people woudl get their points and dip, no ? the traffic would be huge but fast moving i think
The amount of flaming im getting pointing out rewards not available today is hilarious 😂
Everyone thinks they could be the one who makes 150m from a scroll i guess lol
yeh except the shop doesnt officially open till wednesday
the armagedon rewards should be available today. Just not new ones. no ?
I believe all of the rewards will be unlocked on wednesday
tbf jagex's communication strategy in general is unclear and confusing like all the time
they basically communicate assuming everyone is absolutely plugged in and reads
all reddit jmod posts
all blogs in entirety and also stays on discord and sometimes even are waiting in people's twitch streams to see what they're saying
its completely insane lol
what they probably need to do is rework the way they use their own website and then actually just use it
I heard rewards was available today, it's your fault why they arent /s
I agree jmods should be banned from saying anything thats not first put on the website
Let's get rid of their reddit accs discord accs and ban podcast appearances
idk what regular players would even really need to track everything that goes on like i consume so much osrs content that things have a way of just appearing second hand if i dont see it initially
but like lol
You’re looking at it from the wrong perspective, most companies just wouldn’t say anything at all.
We’re lucky we get these extra communications
Exactly lol
And tbh it is your fault for not seeing it
someone needs to make a totally insane plugin that like straight up just stalks all social media and jagex related accounts and comments
What are we even complaining about here
to put them in one location
My steak is too juicy!
Bro should try to see how blizzard communicates and then come back here, dont think he would be complaining afterwards
basically its just how jagex often communicates what they're thinking or doing but they don't do it consistently so if you want to know everything you either need to be everywhere watching
oh i know how blizzard communicates but that doesn't matter
jagex can make mistakes too
But you don't need to know everything that's been said
Anything that needs to be said comes from official channels
yeah like replying to reddit after blog posts
None of that is necessary information
Anything that becomes concrete ends up in the blogs
tbf its not always bad but they often clarify details like that and then just don't actually put it in blogs
and you get people like me linking to it or whatever and that's how people discussing it find out that actually something isn't the way they thought it was
etc
the wiki puts in a lot of work too
idk if you've ever noticed how like half of the facts or details of how something works is some guy on the wiki linking to a moment ash was nice enough to reply to a question who knows where
Most games you never get those details at all
yeah they have 10/10 engagement and like 2/10 organization
Youre Complaining that there's too much info
no
the amount of info is good
the centralization or like way the information is presented is often not good is what im saying
Thats the nature of how much info we have
Complaining about it just means jmods dont want to share extra info as much and then we get nothing
im pretty sure if you asked them if they like how they share information they'd have a lot of the same complaints
their website sucks is #1
Idk i really see it as a non issue
like i really doubt they sit there and are happy to basically try and maintain a situation where they're trying to get their mostly old/not great website to have info then post that info to several social media platforms
and then try and engage everywhere at once
it probably sucks lol
There's no way you could put all the communication that happens somewhere on the website
There's too much communication to try to centralize it in one big newsletter
It is what it is but having too much info is an infinitely better problem to have
I think a valid thing to bring up is stuff like the recent blogs where Mod Goblin has solicited feedback in advance of the Getting Around poll they did - but he only did it on Reddit, and unless you were chronically on Reddit you probably had no idea that even happened in the first place. And they actually did it recently again with a solicitation for Gathering QoL suggestions, and that one only got linked here due to players asking for it. Even if people could only make posts on Reddit, that interaction was being limited to a specific subset (and echo chamber) of the community.
Specifically with DMM we also saw significant issues with availability of basic information. Even with 4 blogs, you still had to reference 20 jmod Reddit comments and 30 wiki pages to understand how even some of the basic mechanics worked, beyond having to go back and forth between those 4 blogs that all had different tidbits of information.
The wiki does a great job of consolidating information, but is player-run and often lags reality, especially with limited events like that or when you don’t even know what you don’t know until you encounter it.
Like as a basic example, there was 1 line tucked away in a specific paragraph about how you could sell duplicate sigils back to the skull by using them on the skull in this DMM. If you didn’t read that one blog out of the 4 they published and read that exact line, you were kinda screwed because there was no way to logically know that (especially because clicking the item inside the skull shop made it seem like you just couldn’t sell it back).
The qol thread was also posted to discord here
There are plenty more examples as well, like the ability to check your breach points at the Doomsayer was something that didn’t make it into any blog or wiki pages
Yes, specifically because I complained about it
LOL damn thats funny and sad to read, i deff accidently bought 2-3 skulls i already owned bcause it didnt remove attune ones from shop if you already owned, and i just stacked them in my bank
sad to know i coulda refundd points and got other stuff sooner LOL
Yeah, as someone who personally did comb through all the blogs and wiki a decent bit, I still missed it, and I only learned it because Goblin happened to reply to me in this discord
To be fair I do appreciate Goblin’s reasons for doing so and you can see it in the post he replied to me with. That’s why I do appreciate how they did end up handing it with the thread in this discord.
i'd say the biggest problem isn't that jagex engages too much its that they're trying to like
meet the players where they're at instead of providing the platform for discussion
which is interesting but comes with a lot of shortcomings
like for example if you go talk on reddit you're probably talking to a lot of players but you have an also large number of players that might not even use reddit to begin with
same with discord or twitter etc
they should probably pick one or have their own forums if they would actually keep it a little more modern and useful unlike the old forums
It’s kinda fun the number of fixes you can point to in updates and say “that was patched because of an Unguided-like player”
Because this hidden knowledge is everywhere
Wasn't W345 supposed to open 3 hours ago to transfer DMM points? 
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W344 riot at Nigel
Rioting doesnt carry the same weight that it used to
Why did the update make my mobile menus only usable for ants?
Anyone know how to resize the inventory and stuff?
What u mean?
Fine for me too (ios)
Yeah mines very minimized compared to that
Android
Im on android
Try resetting
Looks like mobile general is talking about it too
did u set ur phone to some higher resolution with smaller icons and stuff?
No, havent touched anything. Just updated the game and boom
It did make it in, a week after it was on Reddit (which to be fair is partly on those of us who read it. We coulda just updated the wiki ourselves but chose not to)
why is the dmm w not opened yet? any news?
Dmm has been permanently deleted
I'm on Android and I'm fine:
You haven’t updated yet then
@cedar mesa @winter hearth Can you please give an update on the dmm points?
They said Monday at noon
What’s Wednesday then?
shop is closed until Wednesday.
cow boss
nope should of been today
they never said what monday tough 🤔
I see… carry on lol. I was thinking they said shop was Wednesday but clear as day Monday
they probably just have some issues
as always
no shop is on wedensday. w45 is opening monday 12:00. 2 diffrent things
@distant pollen where do you see that?
Don’t you get your points through the shop, though? Or am I trippin’
I never saw mention of Wednesday shop
you spend points at shop
I know it’s on 345 but I kinda thought it was the same interface
i think you get them by logging into 345
where you get your points dosent matter when you cant spend them until Wednesday
Kinda my point. Why does it matter until Wednesday?
the shop is on every world in lumbrige. but its closed until wendensday. you also have to log in on w45 one time before the shop opens to buy stuff
The shop is closed even for older stuff so you’d just have your points sitting
becouse people havent read up so they think they will be able to spend their points as soon as w45 get open. (they cant till wendensday)
Where do they mention Wednesday though?
It has never been mentioned shop will be available until Wednesday
items are already in the GE
it says so on the wiki
becouse there was a dmm 2 years ago
regardless the post made it clear it was today lack of communication as normal
25th = Wednesday
This is how it's always works for dmm and league
that dosent mean anyone has been able to get one yet. it jsut means its precoded to be tradeable on the ge
25th anniversary post, not the best location for it, but they DID say it
they were pretty clear people are just casting confusion on themselves
bad communication yes. the post never made anything clear
But they did mess up saying 345 would be open Monday on discord tbf
people are just worked up thinking they'll be the one person to sell an armascroll for 175m or something lol
they also said so on twitter. but they can open it next monday and the post technically wont be wrong
or monday next year
was posted on X by goblin....
Yeah, that’s a hiccup for sure lol
do you ahve a link?
But Wednesday all should be good. Shop be open, can get points.
well if they dont open w45 before that you wont get your points
dunno why it wont let me post a link or pic
just quote what it said then i can look it up
if you are fairly new you wont be able to post pics
need a certain rank, which is gotta through chatting, and prevents spam bots and most unsavory baiters
Need to keep chatting and you’ll rank up eventually. After Certain rank you can post things
i see
Is world 345 still not showing up for anyone? Apparently we have to log into it for the Deadman Mode points to transfer?
read up
no upodates on that
however
someone brought up points can be used until Wed
buying the new dmm rewards wont work but you can most likely still use points on the armageddon rewards
Yea, I understand we can't use till Wed my only concern is that World 345 does not exist, so how are we supposed to log in to it, to "transfer" the points
shop is closed till Wednesday so most likely not
the real problem is they said w345 would be back online 4.5 hours ago
where is w345
(don't care about points just want to play dmm)
Exactlyyyy lol
0 update on the matter
it probably has something to do with legal stuff since they royally screwed over potentially thousands of players for the finals
how so?
one of the brackets only had 1 singular world which are capped at 2k? people per world
so lots of people couldnt even log in to try win
Oh dang I did notice that.. I think each braket only had 1 world
not that i care since i only did breaches for the rewards so i didnt have to pay 150m for the vw kit lmfao
every bracket had 1 world. just like last time when we got insta transfer
Same lol
but im sure there's a whole lot of legal issue with them screwing a lot of people over when there was prizes on the line
crazy a moderator won't even say what's going on
wasting everyone's time sitting around
5 hours past the time they said w345 would be back online
I do wonder if they mentioned anything on reddit and or twitter
sometimes that does happen and it isn't shared here
Stop sitting around until further notice lmao
Can we just poll if we should have another dmm so we can get the no sweep and get development used on better things
Please
Wish they would poll if people actually wanted Leagues to keep being region-locked... it sucks so bad
It's so played out
Didn't they do an opinion poll on that?
No
So w345 is opening on Wednesday instead of today now?
Wrong
yeah
this is what happens when you offer lego sets to winners
have to give everyone a chance!
I definitely remember answering some questions about leagues region locking...
Why tf does everyone have to wait for these rewards on a certain world , which was said Monday would open and now it’s Wednesday , leagues has such a better setup and reward system why wouldn’t they set this up the same way
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/2025-annual-survey?oldschool=1
I think it was actually in this survey but I don't think it can be accessed anymore to check
To be fair we did just have gridmaster which was not region locked. I know it isn't leagues but it's a temp gamemode that didn't region lock
Yes and it was 500000x better than the last two leagues lmao
Even DMM was better than Leagues this time around
It's clearly because they had to think about the second round of finale and so delayed the release of the world because as you cna read in the post if you want to participate in it you can't log in to that world
Region locking is part of the leagues fun lol picking and choosing your path
Region and style locking is the most stale and boring part of Leagues by far
I hate region locked leagues
It limits what you can actually do and makes doing anything else outside your specific relic choices awful
Good, share that opinion and motivate innovation. I don't mind the region locking but have also only played the last 2 leagues.
I love em, tons of replayability with new paths for me
I have shared it many times
I hope you all answered that survey last year then and didn't just complain
It’s only for 1 bracket , why can’t the rest login, or run another tourney for all brackets
To each their own really
Leagues 2 was very fun but doing it again for Leagues 4 and 5 was not
Because they wanted to put the info out there before opening the world
Cos this is the way they decided to handle it
touch grass or snow for a bit, depending on how the ground looks
No harm in a lil break
Is not getting the cosmetic for two days going to kill you?
Idc if w345 doesn't open till wdnesday as long as it will indeed open and all my pts i got on Dmm aren't lost
Okay but leagues adds an npc to main game for points redeeming , why wouldn’t they think of that before hand and run something similar ? Not to mention tens of thousands trying to login to 1 world Wednesday morning is going to be a shit show
Doesn't matter to me because I don't plan to spend any of the 180k points I earned or play perm DMM
Just relax? The world is going to be open for more than a couple minutes
Leagues have a team that's like 5x as big as DMM tbf, you saw how much jank was in DMM
Not a lot of resources dedicated to it at all
Why not spend any? Buy a ton of weapon scrolls and save until next Fall when they are worth a lot. Why wouldnt you?
You don't need to log in the instant it opens
Why buy them now
Can just buy later if they do rise
Oh I thought shop and points were only for a limited time
the better question honestly is why people would expect anything else from dmm lol
at least its getting better but like
its never good and never makes sense and something weird happens every time they run it lol
its just expected that something goes wrong
its the same thing they do with all pvp updates where they just like apparently dont get the budget of time or resources or something
🥺 can a jmod publish the game-news post about DMM so it can go into discord server news feeds
Speaking of dmm, does participation in the finale give dmm reward pts because im debating participating the second finale.
XP is toggled off so you cant get xp or lvls. I dont think pvp would give you the 5 points per person kill
If u went to first I don’t think u can go to second
Dmm cooked this time, it was some of most fun I had. Think people took dying to serious. Even when they lost nothing.
They do need to fix the point issue in dmm, I think 75k from breaches is to much and the rest of the rewards like skilling was to small.
Good date for a mini teaser Jubbyflex!
Yeah skilling and some bosses points were really low
Like I get if you give less points if you are skilling in safezones
But they need to 2x points on levels acquired in pvp zones
Also the raid area risk was the most stupid thing ever
Don’t agree here, I think danger zone skilling fo better exp rates woulda been good
Don’t think incentivizing people to go get their lvls outside the ge would be fun for skilling
The raid area risk didn’t get changed till end and people just scouted using a rune pouch note alt lol
I mean i said 2x on levels outside so you dont have to get 10k warrior tokens and 150 defenders
There are obscured banks where you can train the other skills
Like u werent risking anything but inventory
Tbh I was still burnt out from last dmm so to tell you I had fun I did not. But it wasnt bad at all
I don't get why we're skilling in a pvp mode to begin with tbh
Is harder to award points for pvp
I mean since the point system last dmm I felt that way like a danger league type
But in the end I get why they do it
It's the easy way to do it for sure
I dropped like 100 RoT raggin bots when they were on the making
They had them training in sandcrabs multi
Although they were naked they were also programmed to pick up supply drops
So I made some decent gp
its not, you just cap it like breach points. its very easy to do. who cares if people boost it.
But I think if they just collected all temp mode rewards in one store with one currency, boosting wouldn't be as big of an issue anyway.
Could be
Fact that pvp rewarded you nothing was kinda stupid, because no1 would actually pk till later. they had to go point farm or wait for breaches
This DMM was just leagues with pvp an trade lol
And finale being an eating competition was just sad
Yeah multi finale with that damage on top is boring thats why I never show up to them
I can see why skilling is low
you can do most of it butt naked
you can do all the raids in private instances.... infact the most dangerous bosses out in multi give like 5 points a kill lol
Im saying
not saying they shouldn't adjust this, but this still has risk being caught with your pants down
after a raid
Nah I saw many people leaving things in the raid chest to withdraw them outside
Idk if I saw that wrong
But I swear couple of youtubers did
but yeah, skilling definitely shouldn't be super high points 
doesnt make sense balance wise
And many others said it outaide
I mean is not really super high points
Whats the total? Like 25k points whe u max?
i need to play more to yap, but i think that's fine given how 0 risk it is 
same reason why i dont think low level wildy content should be even remotely bis by any means
Idk if its 0 risk
Like you could go to breach with 100k risk
Same as you could be risking 100k at redwoods
But breach gives 50x more points
And chances of getting pked are so low with 1k people in the same spot
Now the only skills you train in safezones are buyables
Which you reallistically need to go outside to make the gp
Unless swapping
i got 94k points 75k was from breaches
Does jagex intend to refund all of us who only play w345 all the days of membership that the server is shutdown because this is bs @vague viper @delicate glen
very unlikely
I have 4 accounts bonded that only have w345 time for the several years so im out atleast 20 days of membership
yeha its unfortunate but I don't see it happening
Pretty valid point, but customer support is beyond sea level
Worst one so far
anyone know what this update it for? and for how long?
cool i thought it was that but not 100 % sure ty
well gl eye for the next 30 min. 4 boots so far smh
yea it was first DMM i participated in but it felt like Leagues with extra steps.
I mean, i get that rewarding for kills or damage could be abused and balancing is difficult in these kind of temporary game modes to avoid malice and keep integrity. but idk it just felt like lame leagues. Skilling seemed pointless, quests were unlockable but i still had to do bunch of quests to do daries. Pvp was rewarding nothing, so no point in trying to learn, better just hide in the shadows and points from other activities accept breaches was slow...
i still got 100k points and i will get what i wanned, the loot key changes made me consider and actually play dmm but something felt off, not sure if i really would want to do it again .
EoC update?
yeah the pvp doesnt make a whole lot of sense in the new dmm
345 when
wednesday
They went back on releasing it Monday?
they sure did
guessing it has to do with how theyre running the bracket 4 finale again, wanting to make sure that people hear that you wont be able to participate in that if you join w345
imagine how angry people would be if they opened it on like planned yesterday and then hours later announced that theyre re-running the finale and you cant join if you joined w345
is there maintenance rn? cant login with mobile
where can i find the link for update?
yes maintenance on tuesedays at 9
thank you
Sooo, is it now I'm supposed to touch grass? Or is that shit overrated?
No update, just maintenance
Approx 15 more mins
It has opened.
Oh sweet - thanks Mayo 😄 we back online folks
Anyone lagging like real hard? UK world
Where world 345?
tomorrow
Gone. Mod dropped it on the way to work. Not seeing that again
Maintainance hasn't restored Anti-Aliasing options to the Official Desktop client - broken since yesterday
All your points are gone too, vanished into the aether
Oh dang
Majority of players and content creators, think this was the best DMM by far even if it had a few flaws and the finals was kinda dumb, because they keep doing these multi brawls were its just a eating contest.
The only reason for this is becasue it was leagues with a side pvp element
no bank keys alone kinda makes it bis for casual players
as well as the pvm focus yeah
or well non-pvp activities
I certainly would not have touched it if i lost my bank everytime I walked out of the safe zone
Thats exactly the reason I personally would play dmm
Main game has no risk, so opposing myself to risk feels good 😄
Not that I really like the modded pvp combat style
Peekays appears outside the Toa channel 
Not the shark brewer complaining about bank keys removal 
Eop in the bin btw @scarlet dawn
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I liked this DMM because I bought 125 awakener orbs and practiced awakened bosses for my ironman for effectively 10k main game gp per orb
Got the kit on my iron that I will never use because it somehow looks worse than the base version of torva
So the thing leagues let's you do
You still have to earn the awakener orbs in leagues though, since it’s iron
In leagues you can’t really nerf your dps enough to get an actual feel for the same attack speed and dps as well
You’re too strong for it to have much meaning
And yeah buying orbs
I only got like 6 of them myself on dmm
Is cow boss out yet?
yes
where is it cant find it xD
it spawns as a superior when doing cow tasks
The Ides of Milk is an upcoming high-steaks free-to-play quest that was voted on and passed as part of the Winter Summit Poll. The quest will be released on February 25th 2026. Completing the quest unlocks a repeatable cow boss located in the Lumbridge cow field.
Players will need to help Cassius break into the lucrative Lumbridge milk business,...
"Milk Theory" good band name
So much hype over a f2p boss with no rewards
Yeah idk whats funnier the cow boss or the hype for it lol
Cow pet if there is one
Considering it’s the only main game content update we get in 2026 until summer, gotta get excited about what we get lol
Beggars can’t be choosers
it does, they mentioned it in the reveal, its called Beef
True 🙁
may be true but dont count out dmm and league
Thats a fantastic name
I saw one for Kung pow cow, based on the movie Kung pow! Enter the fist
Vorcalf is a good one
theres also gonna be a little race to world first completion of the hard mode version
With how rushed some of 2025s updates felt. Im ok with this
If hard mode cow is f2p, its only going to be hard for people in rune gear lol
I dont think thats strictly true. It could just be impossible to clear unless you're a god in f2p gear
dont believe the hard mode is going to be f2p, or even if it is, rune isnt going to be the target gear for it
based on reddit comments about youtubers testing it, its prob effectively impossible to do hard mode in f2p gear unless you're a god, assuming you can even try
comments could always be bs, find out tomorrow I guess, but everything in https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1r41g6t/the_new_cow_boss_coming_out_on_feb_25th_will/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button indicates it will be actually hard
What would be if not rune lol
for hardmode, not the normal boss
Monk robes
If anything, it’s a testament to the older staff who would pump out updates with generally less immediately harsh issues while having much smaller resources and headcount compared to today
Not getting anything besides a meme cow boss in the first 6 months of a year is definitely not ideal for carrying out any “platinum age” momentum
That said, still nice to get fun updates like cow boss from time to time lol
I wonder if the quest version will be easier than post quest, they do tend to do that these days but it is f2p so idk 🤔
I hope they call it the Mad Cow
or Evil Cow
Calling it the Ides of Milk would seem unfitting for an early game area
Unless that's the name of the Hard Mode variant, in which case, that rules
only the mad cow if, it drops poisoned beef and it poisons you if u eat it
the golden age or whatever stuff people say about osrs is hilarious
people got so bored of osrs just improving every year they started trying to make it seem like suddenly right now is somehow like better or different or whatever lol
they have good years and bad years but generally they just stick to releasing safe updates that people appreciate and the game does well
the team size differences between now and like 2017 or whatever is actually kind of putting on display just how adding more bodies doesn't directly translate to better content
the sailing updates portion of the winter summit felt like such a footnote compared to everything else. we did get at least one tangible thing out of it, but that wasn't even mentioned in the summit itself
sorry, two tangible things
a new kraken and the ballistic attractor
although thats pretty common/known by people who do any kind of software dev work
a lot of the time more people is actually just more problems
I'm still confused about what Jagex intends to do with cannonballs
Like voting no to "dwarven cannonballs" doesn't prevent them from doing anything they specifically polled they were going to do
probably experiment and gauge opinions on how much cbt should be required to have enough cannonballs
The Ava's facility made it seem like they took it explicitly that voting no to Dwarven cballs = we cannot do any of the other things we intended to do anymore
When that was not clear in the blogs at all and doesn't even seem related aside from a tier of cball that people don't even use in the first place for sailing
the dwarven cballs thing has confused me from the start
like
we really dont need an in world explanation for why you can or cant use cannonballs
its fine if they just work with everything or if the dwarven multicannon only accepts steel
like just put it in the chat box somewhere and move on lmao
based on poll results they're just going to add the ava facility, maybe they will see how that pans out first and see if they want to poll any other cannonball changes
They already did poll other cannonball changes
Time to make them not an absolute ball ache and just add a shop that sells up to rune that has individual stock
the crazy thing is you dont even really need to like experiment or see what happens generally
theres a lot of really easy and hard math on how many cannonballs you can make and how many are fired
you can compare directly to other ranged ammo
I thought I voted no on the dwarven cannonball question but I guess not
so its like
how awful does jagex actually want cannonballs to be
the math is right there
like they didn't even shoot low on the first attempt
The big point is still that cannonballs were already separated into dwarven cannonballs (steel and granite) and sailing-only cannonballs (literally everything else) and literally all the other tiers of cannonball can be freely adjusted without caring if it's called a dwarven steel cannonball or not
like lol they didn't land on the same planet as something reasonable when it comes to the entire system taken as a whole
like if we want gathering the raw materials to take forever compared to most range ammo and then for the shots per bar or whatever to be like
almost 20 times less efficient
but they aren't separated? that question failed?
that's what they did but lol idk why anyone thought that would be fun or go over well with people
its not even a real attempt idk
If only they got tens of thousands of player’s feedback following the beta saying that ship combat felt bad for many reasons and that if they add it, it should be delayed until it can be fleshed out further
You can't use any cballs but steel in dwarven cannons, the separation already existed, which is why people voted no
If only
i honestly think they just decided on a date that they couldn't actually meet
and sailing combat died for the release date
Sorry, we got too much emphasis on coral reefs being added
Like they could 5x how many cballs you make per bar for literally every tier of cball other than steel and it would only be affecting sailing cannonballs
if they worded that question differently it probably could have passed, regardless I think we'll get the ava's cannonball facility first and only after would they look at tweaking the acquisition rates
they could also easily tweak the facility recovery rate to make any other changes unnecessary too
I find it surprising that it even made it to release as is lol
It was clear to see within the first 30 seconds of interacting with ship combat that it was awful and by the end of day 1, everyone realized how terrible the cannonball usage was for its dps
They should up the minimum hit
Like 50% of your max or something
yeah they should have made more time by not adding mermaids
You all will complain about everything xD id hate to be the devs tbh
can't really use that excuse for every sort of criticism
mermaids are genuinely ass from what I saw
mermaids? you mean the kebbit monkfish ladies?
I think those riddles were a cute idea but in practice it will just be a plugin and people won't engage with it
unless you're on mobile ig, but even then you'd just look it up
they talked about making them less terrible at some point, I think? some of them are genuinly awful riddles
All I know is I'm too impatient and get frustrated if I can't get anywhere after staring at it for 30 seconds
especially if it's some item I've never heard of before. Didn't even give me a feeling of "I should have gotten that", more like "okay I guess such an item exists in the game"
I just thought it was immediately dumb because when I thought we’d actually be diving and seeing new underwater areas/NPCs like in pokemon games. Or I guess at fossil island
But instead all we got was a riddle and a fade to black screen
I almost think it would be better if they gave you easy falo-style tasks instead
It would be slower but you could still optimize it if you want without it being impenetrable without a plugin or guide
We are 100% paying for sailing coming out too early
Rather they released it in increments over one big one with random stuff and then a couple month break
Probably not ideal schedule wise
that's actually something i suggested and kind of assume we'll see eventually
i think it was during some survey back when they were trying to figure out what would actually be cool from sailing
but yeah idk i think they basically figured out how boats should move and potentially got a lot of tech in place
the rest of the skill is mia though
which i guess its good that they at least heavily invested in boats moving since that will be core to everything you ever do with boats in one way or another
it sucks that theres just absolutely nothing to care about with the skill though
we didn't need a whole new skill for some islands with nothing on them or to fish some marginally better fish so they've got some work to do lol
trawling is the only sailing content that actually stays relevant after 99 and thats basically an ironman activity lol. Its particuraly good for UIM apparently
the few sailing clue steps to just teleport to
zero sailing involved
its a very good money maker for normies.
last time i looked it was 5m/h
Yeah
if you have a rosewood boat
and you know what you are doing
is better than vorky or zulrah
oh word
suppose when nobody else wants to do it lmao
not bad for the ppl who dont like pvm
Port Tasks don't have a point shop, one of the trials is just straight up not worth doing (jubbly jive), sailing combat
The saddest part is the roadmap they gave us was so vague
Is anything else coming tomorrow or just cow 🤔 kinda want those extra house portal teles
didnt someone say were were getting those tomorrow
Any idea when the update is for the cow
tomorrow
Right, sorry, the time
7 hours
Gotchya
same time as always
I never know what the regular time is 

I live my life clueless
I think it was just a theory we might get them tomorrow
wanna say it was a mod mention on reddit
I’m in the negatives now
I never do anything at time of update so
I always miss update days anyway
Seeeee, I’m not so baaaad
I'm awake for it tho
You’re gonna be up for the release, then?
Dang, I wanted the scoop on the difficulty before I got up and tried it
you usually get locked out of rl for like 3 hours anyway + bugs
Truuuu
It's genuinely funny and sad to see folks malding for hours
on certain key updates
and you just KNOW it'll be fine when you have time to play
I am not taking time off for Cow but I don't start work until afternoon tomorrow
I just remind people to breathe lol
No way it’s that hard, tho. It’s F2P
well
the "awakened" variant is
apparently some creators were saying how hard it was
but they could also be joking
faux/boaty
Nobody at or affiliated or playing Jagex has ever jested ever in the history of eternity
Oh I thought you meant devs
I guess I’ll set an alarm
Gotta knock out the quest anyways
I remember when AKD came out
I had my gear all geared up with items I assumed would be used in the quest based on reqs
Teles
etc.
And one of those items
Was the quest cape xd
I did not make that mistake again
[[Ides of Milk]]
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/The_Ides_of_Milk
Gotta do the quest to unlock the boss
probably takes 5 minutes anyways
[[Rump steak]]
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Rump_steak
Best food in-game. Nobody would see it coming.

Would be cool if hard mode drops special wagyu steak that was actually a good food but I guess they would have said something if that was the case
I’d rather it be a surprise
Make it a rare drop so that it takes a while to get a full inv of super good food, but worth the grind.
do you guys think the cow slippers will be the reward from the hard mode, or just a regular drop
I would expect everything on the blog / poll will be available from normal boss, probably just better drop rate on hard
Probably one of the two
Or both
Maybe like a surprise pet metamorphosis from hard only
So…who’s green logging day 1? 👀
Not it if pet is 1/5k lol
the boss has 58 hp
You underestimate the grind 
Imagine if it were 58HP but the cow had a perk that makes each of your attacks roll for a 1% chance to do 1 damage.

What, you think I'm going to trust a Jagex moderator that designs bosses?
Just go take a 5 hr nap dummy
6 hr even
Or go try to merch dclaws for the 58 hp boss
Sorry, that's too sensible
arcane also said that you can use the cowbell amulet thing to respawn the boss faster
and it tps right back to the boss
and that the pet will be one of the fastest pets if not the fastest
da4+cowmulet reset let's go
It sounds like the amulet respawn might be intended to compete with teleing out
Depends on how instantly you can restart the fight
With each method
I assume no matter what that restoring spec at least will be better than only respawning with comulet
If you have to run like 10 tiles from the amulet tele then I doubt it
Like I said, it depends on downtime between kills with each method
I wouldn't be shocked with either outcome
Almost certainly will be worth losing 5t to double dclaw spec every kc
Plus animations
Unless it really does die to a couple of regular nonspec hits
Yeah that's what I'm expecting
Out of respect I will do my first kill naked with my fists and feet
In max str with claws you can prob get two kills with one spec bar and not have to do as many loading screens
Frick I really want to find it, someone that was in my old clan posted this one image that was an absurd setup put out as a joke as a "raids 3 leaked meta setup"
And post it as "Leaked Cow boss meta"
I think 2x3 he looked kinda long in the twitter pic
Don’t forget to pot up
Had dumb stuff like Mage skillcape and all the nightmare staffs
I’m getting the pet, I don’t care how long I have to sit and destroy this cow.
Wish granted now you have to kill it 7491 times

If I get the pet at 7,491 kc, you will be hearing from me
my initial setup
Wait I’m dumb they have to be square don’t they
Soulreaper if not 3x3?
scythe for if it's 3x3 (might also be good if 2x2, but probably not); sra if small but respawns fast; rapier if small but respawns slow
Tramayne pls
This poor cow is gonna be back on the death screen before it even knows what Tramayne looks like…
Wait a second
i think you can get back fast with cowmulet, but i assume not before then
I know what my initial setup will be
I am ready
i assume bp will actually be bis if it's not 2x2, so full melee switch for dclaw spec then full ranged swap might be the next thing i try if no fast tp
I’m just gonna punch it
See I was going to
Until I remembered the [[Cattleprod]] exists
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Cattleprod
3 melee strength!
Can't wait to see the normal mode cow CAs
I've been told by a clanmate that friendly fire is immoral and I should feel bad
As a counterpoint, it is subterfuge. Disguise. Infiltration. Deception.
wait i didnt know you could get the cattleprod back
i thought it was unobtainable if you didnt keep it after the quest
You can... if you have the plague outfit!
I intentionally kept the plague outfit because it's quirky
And it came in handy
Lmao the two most recent items I've added to my bank
It’s chally
It’s 58 hp and f2p bosses can’t have super high stats .

What times it get released?
same as every week
it passed the poll
Is cow boss live?? Been waiting to get my mems back for this
where cow boss
im excited for dmm reward store td
Is the update in 15 mins? I have no countdown on my client
Yeah I don’t care about the cow I just want to get my dmm rewards 😂
Think the update is half 11 like normal countdown starting at 10:45
That’s in 7 minutes..
Na that's in 1hr 6 mins
11:30BST?
cries in American
M8 it is fawking 2:28am and I stayed up thinking the update was in 2 minutes 😭
wednesday updates are always the same time lol
I never stay up this late for them I didn’t know 😭
is it cow today
Mooooo!
Who needs sleep anyway
i get ya haha im fallin asleep in my chair, forgot this was happening today, checked disc before i was gonna hop off now i dont wanna sleep :p
I’ve already made it this late what’s another hour 😂
thats if they push things out on time ( which as past times have seen) might be not in our favour
Looks like I’m calling off work tomorrow so I can get some armour aesthetic upgrades in a kids game 😂
so what time is the update?
moooooooo
moo
Can a Jmod please answer on requiring 10k charges to make the hunter whistle infinite
Isnt't that kinda steep?
thats between 10000 and 3333 raw hunter meat depending what you use
Maybe you added an extra zero?
Any ideas for the item needed for hm cowboss?
I moooooost of all wanna kill that cow boss now
surely don't need ancient blood ornament kit to unlock hard mode cow boss...right?
Just said completion of dt2 so wouldn't think so
That or the whisper thingy
oh true
Yeah Blackstone fragment maybe
you do need completion of dt2 for blood torva so that would check out, also given they said it's awakened leviathan level
I sincerely doubt you need blorva
Feels like OSRS is watching my account and fixing all the annoying things great job
does the boss look 2x2 or 3x3
find out in 30 minutes
I'd say he looks big
Scythe required
Build a new Garden in your POH.
Build a basic Exit Portal in the new Garden.
Remove your previous portal, and then build the Annihilation Exit Portal there and you'll see that it's orange.
You can go ahead and remove the other Garden you built, if you wish to```
does this applz the other way too? so we could have orange portal with any theme?
is the cow pet also obtainable in normal mode or hard mode only?
also in normal mode
cool thnx
This is such a better way to give a discount than the preposed ironman get 50% off
Gg
We dont care about the damn cow. Where are our deadman rewards…..
arent they... there?
Im not even on a big world
Nope.
Maybe in 15 mins
good ol preemptive complaining for no reason
You mean they didn't hot fix the shop opening a few hours before the games being updated!?!?
I mean, they did have an announcement last week that it was gonna be open on Friday and they lied then too
Dmm has been deleted sorry
plenty of people seemed to know rewards were coming today so seems like a misunderstanding
Net positive for the game
Time to carry on to other activities
Asked this to the team and yes, you can have the Orange Portal with any theme, provided you've unlocked the Wilderness-theme 🙂
Heyo folks, DMM rewards shop is supposed to be open once the timer runs out and the game reboots.
@ancient ember Was 10000 hunter whistle charges perhaps a typo and it's meant to be 1000?
Small typo in other changes: The Hammer and Potion storages in Tombs of Amascur now render correctly.
@ancient ember can I confirm that the dmm armageddon items will still work in coffer?
@ancient ember any idea when you guys will reveal the date of the league so we can take time off work?
Id assume / hope so, by the time you would have 10k charges you would have the hunter cape XD
you get so many from rumours that most people just drop
Unlimited whistle would still be nice for the other teleports though when not doing rumours
No it's correct, but I've seen a lot of feedback around it so I'll make sure it's discussed with the team 
W345?
Oh look world still not there
lmao, still no 345
Much appreciated 🙂
weres 345
I think its fine when compared to the lyre requirements
did jagex delete 345? lmao
its a good sink for hunter meat
no need to lower it
(because i already bought enough to make the perm whistle)
Up now
easy 1kc XD
/Do you login to 345 and then log back into normal worlds to buy the rewards
yes
Apparently it's currently disabled, but you will be able to in a few weeks.
the new cow boss is literally called "Cow boss" ?
f2p dont pay for special names
i will just call it Beefy Bob
the perfected quetzal whistle was going to be reclaimable, is that still coming?
The poll passed but they didnt mention it in the blog post :/
Think there's a bug with poh kit some rooms can't be accessed
cant walk inside superior garden with wildy poh kit
yep i made a bug report for it u do also so they can fix it asap
👀 I'm letting the team know
thanks yume ❤️
bro the whole house is cooked
It's also the outside of house too
looks like the matrix
Urm is anyone elses Catherby house portal specifically broken? Clicking on it won't do anything
How do ya turn portal orange?
rebuild
have to make new garden and select annihilation exit portal
Gotcha thanks
then delete old garden and replace
I have to remove pool aswell then?
Ah nvm gotcha
thats weird why not make a toggle for that
Thanks boss
yeeer
Probably some weird spaghetti code
where you'd be locked in your poh forever
PoH is funky RN
Can no longer path into my Nexus Portal Room. Other rooms I can path into without issues
We're currently investigating the issues with the portal and new kit FYI
ty
Will cow boss f2p and cow boss hardmode have separate hiscores ?
how do you unlock hard mode?
Wildy POH makes your gardens have fake walls that don't actually exist.
Oh cow boss has a name, Brutus!
Path as in, your character literally doesn't walk in ?
POH is bugged
invis wall basically
this
Paddewa teleport in Nexus using wrong icon
Official Client on Desktop still hasn't had it's Antialiasing options restored with this update. Haven't even seen this given official acknowledgement yet.
There is an issue where the count (and type) of existing herbs in the herb sack is incorrect.
We're looking into this 🙏
Yeah, i needed to empty my herb sack at a bank for it to work again
Any aknowledgement of the missing Anti-Aliasing Options? I really just want to know you're aware of it
currently cant access half of my poh - on a side note wildy theme is niiice
Which icon is it using
wind surge
Lol
that's being looked into
anyone know how to fight the hard mode cow?
Wonder if Poh bug is related to nexus update or annihilation theme
How do i activate cow hard mode?
would appear to be the theme
is there info on the pristine silk drop rate?
Not yet, it only just came out 😄
Instance for sarachnis long overdue
how to do hardmode brutus?
Herb sack upgrade
Could you give me more context please? Is this something that occured after this game update?
Plenty of people are doing the boss, so the quest is fine
i love farming sarachnis for elites W update for sure
Same
Built my wilderness house portal, tried to remove it, now I can't rebuild it or get my exit portal blueprint back. @ancient ember
talk to gillie after the quest
Few aussie worlds = annoying
Plus can juggle food now
I'm at work, so I've not done it yet 😄
oh my god i didn't even think about that
no need to waste blood fury charges any more
W update
Does this have to do with the game update? I don't remember how many herbs were in there before the update, but it's only supposed to hold 30 of each, right?
Yeah, they're on it
It's a known issue right now
Since the update earlier in the week, I think to 236.2. Official Client on Desktop no longer has options for Anti-Aliasing, making the graphics all Jagged. Steam and Official seem affected, Runelite seems unaffected.
Me and a few others users raised it here
ah lol
I paid good money for this house and now my pets are going to starve because I can’t get to them. Must be a mime in my house with all these invisible walls. On a side note, anyone hiring quality control?
Yeah when I deposited my herb sack, I actually got 360 toadflax…so guessing those will be removed after update
theres a bug with the new wilderness theme , i cannot walk through here
Yeah you have a mime in your house too bro
Made the garden not the formal garden and now i cant plant my flowers so i removed the portal and went to try again, the poh changes but my exit blueprints are gone
Built my wilderness house portal, tried to remove it, now I can't rebuild it or get my exit portal blueprint back.
Bought a 2nd blueprint, it won't let me do anything with it at all.
When you 1st turn in the blueprint to npc for redecorate, you're given a exit portal blueprint, but one you use that exit portal blue print.. Seems there no way to get it back or get another one..
Npc won't do anything with my 2nd blueprint from Nigel.
Same problem 💯
Where are Annihilation tweaks for PermaDMM w45? Kinda expected improvements for w45 now after 5 days of downtime...
Have raised this with the team
You just need to talk to Nigel to get another exit portal blueprint 🙂 You don't have to buy anything else




