game-update

[meager flame]

why isn't it on a right click option like attack then attack (jim)

below it

lmao

why is there just some insane ui instead

[jagged marsh]

I can't get over how bad the ttk feels

It takes like 50s to kill an albatross with rune cannons

Just immediately killed my interest in grinding them

It's like whacking a black demon with a rune scimmy at 40 atk. Misery.

[icy relic]

if you man your own cannons with rune cannonballs the kills can go pretty fast

[meager flame]

tbh they didnt even have to try to make the crazy situation where you and the cannons can hit 3 different things

but if they really wanted that

there were way better ways with right click menus

i guess they wanted to give you the feel of turning prayers on and off since you cant use them at sea idk

[icy relic]

but yeah best strat is just to 99 sailing and then never touch it again until they actually make it a proper skill instead of a engagement sink

[jagged marsh]

Protect Boat alignment prayer when

[icy relic]

it is just completely unacceptable that a skill was released in this state

[meager flame]

tbh idk why you cant just use prayers at sea

i feel like that was a questionable decision

[icy relic]

that is another issue huh

when they inevitably add a sailing boss only to realize

you have 240 pieces of food on your ship

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[meager flame]

yeah thats when they're gonna make you mico manage your cannons bc its literally the only thing besides moving the boat

you can interact with

[jagged marsh]

It's just one part of the skill that sucks. I like trials and port tasks. Salvaging is nice too. Combat needs a full blown overhaul though.

I'm just glad there's not a whole lot of vital stuff tied to sailing combat directly

Dragon cannon and hooks aren't that useful. Gale Catcher isnt necessary for anything. Bottled Storm is probably the only thing that has some use cases, but it's overpriced for how little there are.

You only really need dragon sheets and those drop from frost dragons thankfully

[meager flame]

i've only used my bottled storm to get to lava strykewyrms

and thats only to upgrade my boat to do nothing with it

so yeah its a huge dead end

[austere mulch]

i built the greater tele focus for the clue step that I havent yet gotten

[meager flame]

tbh idk why its even like this

we're just beta testing the skill it'll probably be good in 2027

also did you guys see that somehow the antler guard drop has been disabled apparently

[austere mulch]

wym disabled?

[austere mulch]

interested to see what they propose for sailing combat changes

[meager flame]

apparently nobody has been able to prove it drops for the past week

[austere mulch]

maybe I lack imagination, but cant personally see it be a system that is particularly enjoyable or with near the same depth as traditional combat

[meager flame]

with a bunch of people going on insane streaks like 0 for 10k

[austere mulch]

oh weird l0l

[true talon]

Boat food is mostly being used to alch planks and train construction XD

[austere mulch]

wonder if it was an accident related to the new pvp event prep

[meager flame]

lmao i just wonder what other items could be affected

[meager flame]

also this is why im sorta shocked they didnt just let us use prayers

it could just be traditional combat but on a boat

it would basically fix their issues lol

like i guess that's not as exciting as saying you're gonna develop a totally new combat style but like

i think the way combat already worked on top of boat movement was already different enough

[austere mulch]

They also said they didn’t want sailing to become its own pseudo combat style only for it to literally become that anyways

Traditional combat while on a boat is how I initially expected when they first showed that barrage cast in a demo years ago

[icy relic]

Yup it requires its own set of rules and mechanics

Arguably even more work than if they added another style

[true talon]

ya no clue why they tried to incorporate boat health into the mix and add a new food type....

[minor whale]

They didn't want hcim to be dissuaded from boat combat if I had to guess

[true talon]

Monster attacks player on boat, player prays, player is ok..... monster uses dif styles, player has to change prayers to combat the attack style, monster is in aoe and player can protect agaisnt it. just they added it attacking the boat as a means for you to consume planks as a gold sink.

[limber creek]

so what you're saying is. I need to stockpile bones to make my boat bury.

[sharp cave]

this is why ill vote no on any pvp updates

[limber creek]

https://tenor.com/bbAHQ.gif

[sharp cave]

should just ban world hopping while in the wilderness tbh

[limber creek]

https://tenor.com/blwIa.gif

[languid ravine]

that would work if there was 1 world

[sharp cave]

nah i think it would work fine with the current world amount

it would cull all the people who are not actually here to pvp and are just farming gold of pvmers

[limber creek]

turns out thats pvping brother

This isn't cry chat i didn't think.

[sharp cave]

yeah just like going around leveling zones are a max level player in wow killing levelers is pvp

its pvp!

player vs player! theres 2 players involved! its pvp!

[limber creek]

Im so glad you're learning ❤️

Turns out you have to be near a players level in runescape to attack them though. But i love the analogy that has nothing to do with the game ❤️

[languid ravine]

thats called OG deadman mode

[silk thicket]

Meh most ppl are hitting pvmers bcos too many worlds and can’t find other pkers

[languid ravine]

anti-pker pvmers exist

[sharp cave]

relevant how?

considerer in deep wilderness theres enough of a gap that it doesnt even matter?

[limber creek]

Slayer caves is under 30 wilderness but i love your enthusiasm for crying 😄

[languid ravine]

u should watch the guides for anti pking and tanking its prob way easier than u think

[sharp cave]

ok well lets add up the levels

[silk thicket]

I did a lil bit of revs antipk and I was caught off guard by how clueless I had to act just to get ppl to hit me

[languid ravine]

theres one the guy just wears dinhs and prays mage, he says he doesnt die

[sharp cave]

there were 6 players and they were all around level 100

so thats 600 vs 120

interesting

[split meteor]

Can I get a few people to help submit a game technical error report for while on mobile client.. everytime I click an attack spell of any kind while on mobile and theres no player nearby to hit, I cannot cancel out of the spells, and if im locked in a instance battle theres no way to click exit on caves, plus I have to reset app, so that means hit the wrong spell I die :/ an totally unwanted and totally avoidable death that doesnt mobile players do not deserve to have happen, specially if it costs you 5m from death to get ur items, vs the 500k to run and get 😢 if its in a total shit area

[silk thicket]

If u don’t insta panic and run around they hop away

Kinda annoying

[languid ravine]

they prob looking for bots to kill tbh

[silk thicket]

If u spam click the ground and run in circles they tb u

Lmao

[sharp cave]

almost exactly equivalent to my wow world pvp analogy

[limber creek]

You shouldn't be allowed to vote with how bad your takes are.
Imagine not being able to tank a few people lmfao.

[silk thicket]

Yh free sets tho

[languid ravine]

oda was in multi and one bot teamkilled the other

denied him the key, 5000 iq move

[sharp cave]

ah well hope they enjoyed their 4k split

[limber creek]

Your cry provided way more than that 4k ever will.
You think people split your baby keys? looooool

[silk thicket]

Impressive ngl

[sharp cave]

really interesting

just think its really interesting that 5 people hopped worlds for my 20k

[zenith pike]

lmfao

[silk thicket]

They didn’t hop worlds for ur 20k sir

They hopped world for PvP action and couldn’t find any so attacked u

[sharp cave]

they did, one tagged me, and the rest logged in

[silk thicket]

Ye

[sharp cave]

i mean i see these people cycling worlds standing, logging in right outside the black dragon/abby demon area

[silk thicket]

They’re just a bunch of friends doing content together sir

U only lost 20k no biggie

[ember token]

huge 4k split

[sharp cave]

are the wilderness slayer caves well known for their teams battles?

[silk thicket]

Anywhere in multi attracts teams

Some teams bait with a cannon there

[tacit wharf]

🍿

[limber creek]

only every night. Just like the fussing from salty pvmers

[silk thicket]

Log in when a team comes

Stuff like that

[sharp cave]

been here for a week and yet to see any pvpers actually fighting each other

[silk thicket]

That’s unfortunate

[limber creek]

because theres 800 worlds sorry you werent on the one we were fighting on wah wah

[silk thicket]

Maybe they were pking with a friend who never pk’d before but he wanted to try it out

So they went somewhere less hectic

Not exactly a reason to vote no on pvp polls

End of the day wildy slayer is higher risk for higher reward, the risk was that u might die for 20k

The reward is lots of slayer points, larrans keys, better drops etc

Fair trade imo

[dire mango]

the risk is my stack of 5 hard clues

[silk thicket]

They don’t despawn for an hour and they stay on ground if u hop worlds fwiw

[obsidian venture]

Wow person goes to the wildy and dies to pkers. More news at 10

[limber creek]

just drop them lmao

[limber creek]

ikr. The cry is insane

[dire mango]

the clue boxes don't stay on the ground for an hour do they?

[silk thicket]

I think u open them and drop the clues but I don’t remember exactly

I’m a clue avoider these days

[sharp cave]

why not just carry the one opened clue?

[dire mango]

u can do that but it makes it really annoying to get them back

[obsidian venture]

I just do one at a time

Hard clues are fast anyway

I only sesh out masters 11 at a time. If I got some Hards after that then I send

[dire mango]

this was not a serious issue 😭 most of the time i get 5 before i even see a pker

[silk thicket]

Yeah u gotta tele back and die to npc to bring them lummy

[idle rapids]

We already have burn damage in the game is it really that much coding to add it to cannonballs? Doesn’t sound crazy. Same with entangling, you can entangle sailing mobs already. There’s no new crazy code that needs to happen to make those possible

[minor whale]

Ship combat is entirely separate from normal combat yes

[idle rapids]

Somehow they couldn’t even add the Moleys without a dupe though

[minor whale]

You're not even truly on the ship in game, you're thousands of tiles away and you're seeing a hologram

It's significantly more work than just adding in art

[idle rapids]

That work is already done brother

[minor whale]

It's much much more complicated than you're making it out to be to compare basically add wings to mole slippers vs adding and checking an entirely new combat mechanic to a brand new system

[ember token]

its more complicated than adding holy moleys yeah, but it should also be not a complex thing to add the other cannonball types

its not a technical reason why theyre not in the game

[winged mantle]

They don't, only clue scrolls have this and clue caskets

[hard axle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-omg-wtf-shocked-nft-gif-4098854808141810861

[languid ravine]

add veng trinket back, its actually a interesting mechanic to utilise unlike alot of pvp sigils that just boost stats

[jagged marsh]

Never once been killed on a clue

Crazy

[torpid delta]

i think the last time i got killed on a clue was a few years back at the chaos altar, i was speccing out the zammy wizard and a dude offering bones ran out and bashed my skull in with a dinhs

didn't run because it was too funny of a sight

[narrow folio]

you can just drop the clue and itll stay anhour anyway

[restive storm]

never even seen another player while doing a clue

[idle rapids]

Yeah they need to rework the clue box because it’s actually useless since the clue scroll changes

No reason to ever bring it

How did you get runefest 2026 role btw? That hasn’t even happened yet 😮

[narrow folio]

#runefest-2026 chat

#runefest-2026 message react

[idle rapids]

Ez role

[narrow folio]

[languid ravine]

i saw another guy doing the exact same step once and we just awkwardly went on our way xd

[analog crow]

I once got attacked while doing a clue. I was naked with a dds. Ty for the ancient staff whoever it was.

[brisk hill]

owned

[analog crow]

It's what you get for using surge spells ig

[jagged marsh]

ive seen a few but they never attack me

[analog crow]

They'll only attack around mage bank I suppose

Because some guy on reddit posted a 100m larrans key pk once

[oblique mesa]

Clue doers sometimes just look too juicy to pass up. Saw a dude in full graceful when I teleported to annakarl for a bear mass. Dude was asking to get pk'd

[analog crow]

Some people gotta learn the hard way to check the kept items on death screen before heading out

[limber creek]

i love clue scrollers

[restive storm]

no rancour smite sadly 🙁

[brisk hill]

https://tenor.com/view/bonds-airship-assault-workfrank-roblox-gif-14342780775675594056

[restive storm]

spent 5 minutes in the cave that was first guy i found

feel like i may as well call it a night

shewwy hoo the little weekend timmies are out

[final frigate]

What are these guys doing man 😭

Literally 0 thought click wildy

[icy relic]

My wildy clue setup is deposit all 3-item with BP

[vivid ruin]

Lmao blud didn't realize he'd lose his whole ass tp system

[icy relic]

Hope they were iron too

[ember grove]

why the hell are these people risking this stuff

do they think they're gonna star in a new youtube series or something

[icy relic]

Probably got away with it too many times and developed bad habits

Thinking it's fine and they'll never run into anyone

[sharp cave]

can u come kill the guys who are killing me for my 20k in the wildy slayer caves

[restive storm]

No cuz that’s multi and a waste of time

Cuz they’re only risking like 50k lol

[sharp cave]

some of them splash the cash for bloodbark

[limber creek]

I can come kill them for you. Only one rule. You have to attack too. Make sure skull prevention is on so u don't lose anything good though

[rare grotto]

123

[fierce otter]

Bh is coo rn too

Hyped to use those new god spells tho that’ll b raw

[silk thicket]

Good rule tbh

[ornate thicket]

You pk on mobile?

[scarlet dawn]

Is your acc safe after this? Lol, no mass reports?

[worldly rune]

do I understand right that this year DMM doesn't have Sigil of last recall?

meaning the "Everything You Need To Know" covers 100% of the existing sigils and all are in the shop?

[merry verge]

Yep, that should be correct sir. Also today's DMM event will use same template as seasonal so we get to see a preview (although they have massively boosted exp and droprates)

[true talon]

Were do you find these idiots?

[restive storm]

in the wilderness, hope this helps!

[jagged marsh]

Wym new god spells

[vivid ruin]

Maybe dmm

[ember token]

sigil that buffs the god spells

guthix drains defensive, sara drains prayer, zamorak applies burn

would be cool to give them in the main game too

[limber creek]

lol that dude was at 19 portals! ive shared it before and do anytime someone mentions clue scrollers as thats my best one recently lol!

[limber creek]

nope! was a real player and he was very nice. I offered to return 100m but he declined.

[radiant heart]

Summit when

[brisk hill]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

[limber creek]

3pm EST my friend! ( I believe)
Which would be like 5 hours and 23 minutes from the time of this message!

[restive storm]

gotta sit thru streamermanmode first

[limber creek]

Watching gnomemonkey pvp on that oda video yesterday was a good reminder of why pvp is the true endgame of osrs.

[austere mulch]

Ngl I don’t bank the majority of the time for wildy clues lol. But have yet to run into anyone. Matter of time I suppose

[brisk hill]

Can we be friends?

[radiant heart]

Oh ok back to clue scrolls

[austere mulch]

Not an iron so won’t too be bothered when it inevitably does catch up to me so gg to whoever is the one

[limber creek]

clue scrolls you say 😈

@restive storm we got a mission brudda

[true talon]

my clue scroll setup for the wildy, toxic hally spade and clue....

no reason to take anything else

[brisk hill]

I’m the same way but that doesn’t mean everyone else is

[restive storm]

had another thought on pvp approachability last night while pking caves... u know how demotivating it is to go out there on a pure which is considered the noobie bracket, and like 7/10 pures you run into have bought infernals/quivers that only adds like 1m risk but is insanely powerful lol

[true talon]

thats jagex fault for not policing capes/quivers after the first week inferno was out

[restive storm]

agreed

[true talon]

Also the technology has become so advanced, its basically impossible to tell the difference

[limber creek]

dont play a pure. but if i did i wouldnt have infernal or quiver for a hot minute lol. it was tough enough on a main. (infernal i got quiver on my first sol actually LOL)

[restive storm]

but it feels super lame, and if i wasn't just baiting and specifically looking for those people, i probably wouldnt go out there pking lol

[true talon]

remote tools like zoom screen control or other screen control tools

[restive storm]

like 70% of lvl 70 pures have both

guess inferno/colo is ez on pures i just havent done it yet

[limber creek]

which we all know is fake as heck LOL

[true talon]

Like in the past you had to pay someone an give your password to let them on your acc. which could be flagged as a different ip, however todays day an age you can just remote control peoples computers and the input delay basically dont exist.

[austere mulch]

Yeah I mean there’s no good reason not to bank. Most of the time I just don’t care to bank so if I lose the 200m or whatever risk, then it is what it is. I just hit POH > pool > obelisk or portal most of the time

[limber creek]

https://tenor.com/bnqr0.gif

[true talon]

I avoid all problems caused by wildy clues by not picking up clue scrolls 🙂

[limber creek]

im joking btw. theres 0 chance im hunting you with hundreds of worlds and no clue of your ign LOL

[austere mulch]

If I cared enough to stack clues, I’d prob bank more

[true talon]

If you got a goal of a green clog, its literally impossible. the two players close still have on average 40k hours of max efficenty clue scrolling to finish an they only 20 items away XD. (AI got the 3rd age item location wrong calling it raids) and this is assuming in those 40k hours played that jagex doesnt add more CLOGS lol.

[restive storm]

"hey squinttz why dont u go pk in multi w/ ur friends" meanwhile these are the demons sweeping 2.2k worlds

[true talon]

When we getting the GRANDMASTER clue scroll

[restive storm]

honestly prob announced today, been forever since clues got updated

[true talon]

I feel they set the requirements so high for master that they dont got a lot of room

Grandmaster clue scroll would require you to like emote while fighting sol or zuk with powerful items equiped

dance at chest of verzik vitur while wearing full justi and a scythe

[limber creek]

imagine they made a clue scroll where you have to pk someone

[true talon]

people would just kill their alts

there was one were you had to enter the duel arena to dig inside a fight

[limber creek]

i remember that one lol.

maybe i should make an alt lol

[true talon]

I would support a wildy clue scroll system (but i know a ton of people wont)

Clues that can only be done in the wildy and offer new unique rewards

[brisk hill]

I see you & raise you 1 demon magician https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709498526106648617/1464996631400153316/IMG_7847.png?ex=69777fef&is=69762e6f&hm=18dcdfc14c05d7546b32e373947a8567f4bd97fbf3551023a60417faa85a3ade&

They are out there

[restive storm]

most risk ive seen so far today in 2.5 hours was a black mystic hat

[limber creek]

1k searing pages is MAD work lmfaoooo

[limber creek]

LOOOL

[brisk hill]

Not even his +1 (staff was) so idk what he was doing tbh

[restive storm]

road to 5k vetion kc man here we go -.-

[brisk hill]

When does streamer battle start?

[ember token]

factions starts 4 hours before the summit

[limber creek]

so in like an h our?

[silk thicket]

wtf that’s like multi giga max

[silk thicket]

Ye

48 mins

[void radish]

why is there people that can login in the dmm world and others. no?

[ember token]

well dmm doesnt start for another 5 days

there should be nothing stopping you from logging into w345 though

[void radish]

i mean the deadman - factions, isn't it the one that releases today?

[ember token]

were you invited to participate in deadman factions?

[void radish]

oh i see, there are 2 separate dmm events

[ember token]

indeed

[scarlet dawn]

Multi revs in DMM Annihilation haha

[true talon]

yea they allowing multi revs in the deeper parts of the cave XD

[scarlet dawn]

Yop, thats hilarious

[true talon]

I suspect there will be some wilderness islands in the future

considering that area space of the wilderness is not able to be interactable

Sailing does a lot to restrict mass bots, so if there is some cool content on a wilderness island then it will be pretty protected

[ember token]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Game_Jam_IV#Revenant_Island

multi rev island was literally an idea mod manked suggested in a game jam lol

[limber creek]

only 3 years ago

[ember token]

theres some cool ideas in this gamejam

[true talon]

a lot of them kinda came true, like the demon island was chasm of fire and the crab island was the gemstone crab on varlamoore

[ember token]

i mean the chasm of fire already long existed

[true talon]

ya but it didnt have any content untill yama

[limber creek]

gemstone crab was a mistake

[ember token]

either way the point was more the old demon

[true talon]

Guess they didnt get ship combat right XD

[true talon]

no, gem crab is awesome.

whenever i decide to continue my baby pure lvling i will be smacking the gem crab

[ember token]

honestly theres a bunch of ideas here that were used in some form or another

rapids harpoon fishing looks like it became the fishing in the moons of peril dungeon

[scarlet dawn]

Gem crab is nice as it avoids you getting crashed by ego Timmy or Juan and José trying to make some IRL money

People using the 4 spot sand crab spot (on the mainland) with 40 str is juicy to crash

[ember token]

the names of the sailing quests seem to suggest it became the tortugan quest

in the team rumble thing, the salamander "Rumbled Salamander: A powerful salamander that can use all three attack styles."

became the nature's reprise or whatever from leagues

[scarlet dawn]

Live in DMM right now "huge clump!!" - only 3 people

[idle rapids]

that event was too chaotic for me to watch

[merry verge]

So there are corruped weaponry in Factions, will there be corruped weapons in Annihilation too???

Saw no info in blogs about corruped weaponry😅

[ember token]

then you didnt read the blog too closely

[restive storm]

kinda hilarious that it gets run w/ multi breaches then 99% of the game on DMM goes to the singles breach because making friends = bad

[scarlet dawn]

Oh I wrote that because 3 is the biggest clump the caster has seen

[ember token]

solomission and the other caster cant stop talking over each other

[scarlet dawn]

Im watching the osrs stream

[restive storm]

oh i didnt even realize there was an official stream

[ember token]

yeah on the osrs twitch channel

[merry verge]

Oh right, I forgot the trinket of adv. weaponry gives corrupted weps, more than just the megarares. My bad, sorry, tho I do think it's weird they didn't mention anything about the word "corrupted" in either blogs and no word on whether any corrupted weps have been changed or if they will be all same as in last dmm?

[ember token]

i would figure that they would say if they changed them

they're probably not the only thing not mentioned on the blog because it's unchanged

[vestal jetty]

Anyone know where to watch the video today about jagex roadmap ect?

[ember token]

itll be streamed on twitch

not sure if they stream it on youtube too

[vestal jetty]

Oh it hasnt been streamed yet?

[ember token]

it's in an hour

[vestal jetty]

Ty guys

[tacit wharf]

i so do love me a good multi fight

[ember token]

portkhazard down

[restive storm]

gl pvpcord surely this summit we FINALLY get something

[limber creek]

Hopefully we get something because we didnt get a single tile on the predictions

[restive storm]

"once you step in side you feel unsafe" something tells me the wider playerbase is gonna love thhis place 😂

[jagged marsh]

australia is being added to osrs

[limber creek]

a crimson bludgeon? lol

[gleaming holly]

Lmao

[restive storm]

new rag flail

[limber creek]

Yay something for people to wear in xericans and rag me with

[restive storm]

its like the current rag flail but BETTER!

[limber creek]

https://tenor.com/x4hQ.gif

[merry verge]

Tbow to the moon????

[limber creek]

they prb wont let u use the arrows w/ it lol

[ember token]

looool summer

[limber creek]

venator bow to the moon

[restive storm]

howd it even make it on to the last road map

NGL kinda glad its the finale cuz i HATE anything to do with the vampire areas those are the worst

[jagged marsh]

this is some straight up berserk shit, i dont wanna go to vampyrium!!

too scary

[restive storm]

.....

[chrome lantern]

Not really sure what to think of this

[restive storm]

im gonna FREAK man

[limber creek]

oh great deadman stuff. Yeehaw.

[floral blaze]

Wow.... Allstars 😐

[restive storm]

the good news is you arent allowed to play!

[restive sapphire]

summer 2026 blood moon
15 midgame bosses while we wait

[restive storm]

so you dont have to worry

if this is a legitimate slot on the road map thats a giga jagex blunder lol

[limber creek]

streamerman mode lol

[gleaming quiver]

A road map slot for a closed invite thing is weird lol

[restive storm]

the literal "who asked for this" mode

[true talon]

So few real pkers that the teams had to bring in pvmers to have a tournment

[limber creek]

lmaooo right

[chrome lantern]

When applied, Seeker Arrows provide:

+23 Ranged Accuracy.
A minimum hit bonus of +2, raising your minimum damage from 1 to 3.

[tacit wharf]

i mean its the pre-show for the live event in chicago, not sure why you'd think they wouldnt mention it

[limber creek]

Did yall watch gnomemonkey fight pvp the other day?

[chrome lantern]

Interesting

[limber creek]

Shows the pvp skill gap is all im saying XD

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[limber creek]

Squinttz we couldve killed him on like 1 brew lol

Its bad bad lmao

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/reactions-gif-12900002073893207744

no WAY

[limber creek]

grandmaster hitting 3t barrages lol

[restive storm]

bro this is crazy how much time this is taking lol

for just an ad that no players can take part in

[languid ravine]

only streamers get to play dmm 😭

[limber creek]

yeah who even fuckin cares in the least about this lmao

[floral blaze]

So this is the only pvp related stuff we get in the summit huh

[mortal shell]

So stoked for the new sailing quest

[limber creek]

Probably lmao

we get a new quest rag mace too! lmao

for all those xerican robe warriors

[restive storm]

gotta get people HYPED about a game mode that doesnt exist, to log in and realize they cant play the content they just watched lmao

oh good theres merch at least we can get involved

[carmine frigate]

All I heard was blah blah blah tbh

[restive storm]

and give them money

[limber creek]

Spend your money buddy. You like streamer only events dont you.

You will pay to watch odablock. and you will like it.

[hoary verge]

https://cdn.runescape.com/assets/img/external/oldschool/2026/Newsposts/2026-01-01/flailstats.jpg

It switches to slash instead of crush?

[ember token]

thats a good catch

[obsidian venture]

I wonder how Iron-friendly the arrow min hit upgrade would be

[ember token]

so it's probably gonna be like a sunspear flail

[tame musk]

how to join giveaway

[restive storm]

20 minutes in so far and i am depressed

[tender harness]

20 minutes and its been a delay
and DMM

[chrome lantern]

My expectation is that it will be pretty awful after you run out of the woodcut-boosting stuff from PvM

[hoary verge]

Extremely unlikely but now I'm thinking of Varlamorean artifacts bringing the wrath of the SUN down upon the vampyres

[obsidian venture]

interesting

[tender harness]

menaphos lookin ass content

[hoary verge]

It's only lucky for the Vampyres that Varlamore is on the other side of the world

[tender harness]

if raids 4 is in the desert

: blame Bane

oh

no its leagues

[hoary verge]

Desert leagues?

[trim ridge]

Do I need to have played the prior 665 Leagues to play this one?

[ember token]

april leagues

[true talon]

So are they gonna give us ways to get d arrows now to attach these? or will we be further forced to be at a disadvantage???

[limber creek]

Boutta name change myself To opressed individual

[hoary verge]

Leagues in spring?

[tacit wharf]

that explains why bmr is in summer

[restive storm]

i love how the main game barely even gets updated anymore its just more temp modes

[hoary verge]

Interesting

[ember token]

also hi fang

[trim ridge]

Hey Data!

[hoary verge]

I wonder how Sailing will work in Leagues

[limber creek]

worked so well with wow splitting up the playerbase!
You know the whole game dying means nothing lol.

[hoary verge]

The area restrictions seem incompatible with Sailing

[chrome lantern]

I mean moving all arrows up will narrow the gap

[hoary verge]

Unless the Sailing-only islands are open to everyone

[ember token]

As always, you'll be met with a roster of tasks, powerful Relics (new, reworked & returning), region-locking, and of course some interesting new changes!

[languid ravine]

just need some pvp-free wilderness worlds

[ember token]

region locking zzz

[restive storm]

its so sad that i just dont even get excited for these summits anymore man cuz they jsut disappoint one after another lol

[true talon]

no it wont lol. how does it narrow the gap. when you get the same increase.

[chrome lantern]

As always, you'll be met with a roster of tasks, powerful Relics (new, reworked & returning), region-locking, and of course some interesting new changes! And we're not too far away from it either as this April you'll be able to jump back into this fun and frantic game mode.
I have never been more disappointed

[ember token]

While Sailing's inclusion is very recent and very substantial addition to the game, we've decided to not include it as part of Leagues VI.

[restive storm]

sailing was so bad they cba even adding it to the temp modes

[ember token]

yoo

[true talon]

thats awesome

[limber creek]

Instead of fixing sailing content for the main game we've decided fuck that yolo we're making a new gamemode where you can't do it.

Good shit jagex.

[languid ravine]

cant sail in dmm?

[ember token]

these rewards look sick

[restive storm]

no

nor in leagues

[languid ravine]

bruh

[ember token]

Any future skill that is added to Old School will not be part of any game modes for around the first 12 months of its release; however, you should expect to sail across the seas in future events from 2027 onwards.

[limber creek]

https://tenor.com/bsYm1.gif

[restive storm]

30 minutes still looking for the first actual update we didnt know about already

[languid ravine]

more streamers

[limber creek]

woohoo streamer talking time

[tacit wharf]

then piss off and wait for the yt bid

vid

[restive storm]

streamer content

[languid ravine]

bring back alison quinn and headdome jimbo

[restive storm]

free my man til its backwards

[limber creek]

https://tenor.com/bVkej.gif

[tender harness]

it looks so bad 😭

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/startamilchat-sanjay-chat-star-tamil-chat-star-chat-tamil-chat-gif-4417548592457898005

[ember token]

i mean thats just slayer helms

[trim ridge]

That's funny my first reaction was that it looks kinda cool

[tender harness]

thrall overrides + kits

[ember token]

you know im kinda excited for this league despite being another region locked league

[tender harness]

sailing isnt in this league

[restive storm]

never played a league never will

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[vivid ruin]

Leagues getting better rewards than dmm

Nicer*

[chrome lantern]

I've never been more sad to read the words region-locked league

[languid ravine]

dmm is just pvp world with bosses

[chrome lantern]

Haven't they gotten enough of it from Trailblazer 2 and 3

[true talon]

Seeker arrows seems like a problem, it dont benefit bowfa at all.

[warm epoch]

they said they don't want to do non-region-locked leagues because it was too hard

[tender harness]

no sailing this league
to summarize first 30 minutes
delayed GM quest
dmm yapping
leagues in april
rune fest

sofar

[ember token]

is that a problem lol, and the necklace upgrade does benefit it

[restive storm]

dmm for the actual playerbase was an afterthought to the all stars announcement 😴

[limber creek]

its almost like bowfa doesnt use arrows. Good catch brother. next.

[trim ridge]

Bowfa them arrows?

[true talon]

I mean the biggest issue i have with them, is ofc the lack of d arrow supply.... so now im need seeker arrow attachments for amy and dragon arrows.

[narrow folio]

Theyre trying to underhandedly gigaboost tbow especially

[dawn jackal]

inshallah don't get baited by the ironman

[thick beacon]

noone cares tbh if tbow gets 50% dps imagine

[chrome lantern]

Leagues 3 was amazing, just make it actually not be trivial to unlock anything. Being able to go everywhere, not be shoehorned into unlocking things you have 0 interest in doing to get content you want to do, and being able to actually switch combat styles and not have irrevesible changes was the best thing they ever did to leagues in Leagues 3

[narrow folio]

There should be seeker darts, bolts, crystal arrows too

[limber creek]

babyscape ahh update

[true talon]

i hope d arrow sustainability enter the game......

[narrow folio]

Oathplate slayer helm is only cosmetic right?

[restive storm]

"i cant afford 2k arrows" scape

[narrow folio]

No way they add oathplate bonus to slayer helm

[tender harness]

RS3 was dropping better news than this stream man

[limber creek]

i choose to be an ironman and am mad i have to collect my own resources scape

[harsh herald]

ngl, its probs the most fun ive ever had on the game by far when i played last year - plenty of pking if you unlock wildy area too. worth giving it a go

[floral blaze]

OSRS fell off

[restive storm]

yeah this is the biggest flop in years and thats saying a LOT

[narrow folio]

And what about blorva slayer helm?

[restive storm]

cuz weve had awful summits like the last 3 years lol

[true talon]

WRONG

[true talon]

Hey imagine how fucked you gonna be when dealing wit msb bots using amyethsyt seeker arrows that have a min hit of 3

[limber creek]

theyll cost like 5k a piece. ill gladly kill them

[restive storm]

i dont hit msb bots

why would i waste my time

[narrow folio]

Also 23 accuracy is a LOT

[limber creek]

also aren't msb capped at amethyst lol

[true talon]

that is a lot, that means it will be mandatory to attach to all of your arrows

[narrow folio]

Does min hit mean you roll 3 to max or any hits below 3 become 3?

[limber creek]

homie just made shit up.

[restive storm]

oh god no

[true talon]

means you can never hit below a 3

[restive storm]

not sailing updates

[narrow folio]

How does the dmg roll?

Is it floored or does the avg go up?

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-screaming-scream-screams-gif-21763857

[limber creek]

try searing pages in tome of fire. same thing.

[floral blaze]

Lmfao

😭

[vernal valve]

The first one is how the current default min works, but the latter is how I'd assume it'd be implemented. It's not actually clear.

[narrow folio]

Are we rolling 3 4 5 6 7 or 3 3 3 4 5 6 7

u know what I mean

[vernal valve]

Yeah, I do

[narrow folio]

Yep its a big diff

[vernal valve]

The 2nd one is how the current default min is impemented, but it's just not clear if that's how the seeker arrow min will be implemented

[narrow folio]

Yeah

[vernal valve]

Or if it'll work like fang, which works like the first example

[narrow folio]

How does searing pages work?

[true talon]

Wait i just noticed, these seeker arrows are the fking shaft, so every single arrow head i already made into arrows cant be seeker arrows......

[minor whale]

Yup

They're shafts

[narrow folio]

Wait 💀

[minor whale]

Hahahahaha

[narrow folio]

Thats fucked up

[minor whale]

That's the best possible implementation

[narrow folio]

Maybe u can attach it after?

[sacred tree]

They can be

[limber creek]

Just vote no if you dont like em

[sacred tree]

According to the blog

[restive storm]

may i introduce you to - The Grand Exchange

[chrome lantern]

Wait

[vernal valve]

Read the blog, you can upgrade arrows

[true talon]

no it said you can attach them to the heads

[chrome lantern]

The summer for Sailing combat?!?!

[warm epoch]

Alternatively, apply the sap to existing arrows to convert them at the same rate as standard logs - allowing you to upgrade your current ammunition without starting from scratch.

[chrome lantern]

tf?

[limber creek]

Its a really cool place! Where main accounts can purchase things they dont want to farm 😄

[narrow folio]

So u can attach it to fully made arrows?

[ember token]

yeah i called it, summer sweepup for sailing combat

[narrow folio]

Ohhh

[vernal valve]

I believe in you, it's faster to read the blog than to complain about it

[sacred tree]

Yes

[vernal valve]

Yes.

[narrow folio]

Nvm we are good

[floral blaze]

who wrote this script? is this marketed towards 10 year olds?

[sacred tree]

"Alternatively, apply the sap to existing arrows to convert them at the same rate as standard logs - allowing you to upgrade your current ammunition without starting from scratch."

[true talon]

ahh ok maybe i missed that lol

[restive storm]

i physically cracked up at autumn barracuda trial lmao

[narrow folio]

Phew!

[restive storm]

as if anyone is waiting that long

[limber creek]

Wow a new barracuda trial! To bad im already 99 and don't care.

[narrow folio]

Wonder what new upgrade the trial will give

Like wind catcher and CE

[restive storm]

only like 8 more months bro dw

[heady kernel]

https://osrs.game/Sail-Island-Shortlist-Winners leads to a post that is from 2022 instead of the island list

[limber creek]

wait

this might be it

LISTEN UP

[restive storm]

no man

[narrow folio]

At least make upgraded darts and bolts and adjust the numbers

[tender harness]

sea expansion not even coming till winter bruh

[restive storm]

no wildy sailing

please no

[narrow folio]

The way it is, its weirdly only promoting tbow and nothing else

[warm epoch]

not even promised in winter

[warm aurora]

love the new rewards from blood moon

[limber creek]

never heard of venator bow i see

[minor whale]

Acting like they don't add content to existing skills where people might already be 99 in 🤯
Crazy that they're adding content to the newest skill too

[tender harness]

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a=97/sailing-into-2026?oldschool=1

[narrow folio]

Yes i know venator and scorching exist but theyre relatively niche

[restive storm]

yea but sailings boring

[narrow folio]

Landlubbrr

[warm aurora]

blood moon rewards are sick

[limber creek]

Yes a new trial is all sailing needed. and not a complete combat overhaul or areas actually worth training for.

[warm epoch]

combat either needs an overhaul or removal

[restive storm]

dont 4get rewards for courier tasks

[limber creek]

Woohoo!

[minor whale]

They're working on that too lol
Like literally in the Summit they said they're reworking combat

[restive storm]

they forgot to implement those

[minor whale]

What are you talking about

[limber creek]

This summer they said theyll talk about it more lmao. What are you talking about?

I get it you have problems with comprehension. But you could try.

[restive storm]

beyond

[narrow folio]

I just want better nail sources

Otherwise idc about sailing combat

[tender harness]

beyond implies realistically 2027

[tacit wharf]

oh nvm u did put the updated one

[warm epoch]

yeah i legit posted the one from the article lol

[tender harness]

theyre polling a new source for dragon cannon barrels

lmao

[minor whale]

You should read the actual blog post 😄

[restive storm]

wait only 1 more?!?!

[ember token]

raids 4

[restive storm]

they havent really announced anything yet lmao

[limber creek]

Are you always this dense? Imma start callin you runestone.

[trim ridge]

The World Wakes for OSRS

[tender harness]

fucking ritual of the mahjarrat

lmao

[narrow folio]

I don't promote insults but that's a funny joke.

[minor whale]

The sailing combat reworks are both before the new barracuda trial
Are you ok

As well as new areas and a new quest

Both before the new trial

[limber creek]

Okay runestone whatever you say

[tender harness]

cant tell if this is world wakes or rotm
Lmao either way

[minor whale]

Are you always like this when you're wrong lmao

[limber creek]

Okay runestone thats enough crying.

[trim ridge]

I was kinda kidding but it also was totally giving "find Guthix for real" vibes hahaha

Oh thank god it is the raid

[floral blaze]

Lame ahh summit

[restive storm]

these things kinda lose their luster when 100% of "reveals" is everything we already knew was coming lol

[ember token]

that skull made me think it was guthix at first

[sharp cave]

#sailing-chat message
called it

[trim ridge]

Same

[spiral nimbus]

!roadmap

[chrome lantern]

This is it? That's the whole roadmap?

[restive storm]

yeah that was brutal

[chrome lantern]

Last year we had a big thing to look forward to every quarter

This year there's 2 things

[restive storm]

0 actual reveals just rehashing everything we knew was coming lol

[chrome lantern]

Raid and Myreque

Both of which we did already know yeah

[restive storm]

like y did they even have this "summit" lol

[tender harness]

Players will be able to solo the raid, though our current plan (subject to change) is for the raid to scale between 2 and 8 players, meaning solo clears will be possible but difficult.

can people just solo with out having scaled for duos lmao

like why are we punishing soloers

[minor whale]

Raids shouldn't scale to solo

Solo scale means solo becomes the meta

[narrow folio]

Not necessarily

[winter frigate]

where is the giveaway channel?

[spiral nimbus]

Idk

[sharp cave]

i was fully expecting this raid

[narrow folio]

Cox scales to solo and its not necessarily meta

[sharp cave]

no suprise at all

[limber creek]

yes because solo chambers, solo tob, and solo toa are the meta for purples.
L take not a raider.

[tacit wharf]

#giveaway

[chrome granite]

https://discord.com/channels/324132423636090880/1111656044398137486

[tacit wharf]

u click on it

[narrow folio]

Tob scales to solo in some aspects but not generally

[tacit wharf]

u dont type it

[restive storm]

smh man why did i even bother taking the time to watch that lol

didnt learn anything

[narrow folio]

Toa i dont know if solos are even meta but they sure are popular

It makes the raid more accessible and less toxic

[limber creek]

8 mean 410's are like 50% purple chance every raid or some shit

[narrow folio]

Downside is teams may feel pointless which is a good and bad thing. Finding teams takes time and you have to deal with roles and waiting but properly working together is fun.

So all we know is raids 4 is coming this year? Or next?

[true talon]

The process is as follows:

Obtain an untradeable Alpha Venator Tooth from the Maggot King boss.
Etch the tooth with 84 Crafting, creating a tradeable Etched Alpha Venator Tooth.
Combine with a Necklace of Anguish (84 crafting required).

This additional crafting step preserves the importance of high Crafting levels while avoiding the need to sacrifice extra Zenyte jewellery simply to trade or store the item - a pain point we’ve seen raised with similar rewards in the past.

As part of this, we’re also interested in hearing whether players would like similar functionality applied to existing items like the Araxyte Fang and Amulet of Rancour.

PLS do this change lol

i cant think of anything worst than having to go get zenytes to benefit from an arraxor grind

Also extend it to vestieges from DT2

[tender harness]

Accessing the Fractured Archive will require completion of While Guthix Sleeps. We know that this would prohibit some builds from accessing the encounter, but we'll talk more about accommodating all players in a future blog, so we'd advise you not to worry!

dont accomodate snowflake accounts

[narrow folio]

Now I don't know what they mean by "possible but difficult"

[limber creek]

who cares about snowflakes. Tired of the damn easyscape!

[narrow folio]

They should probably explain more

[true talon]

I think they are going to talk about lamp as quest exp

[restive storm]

well... we knew it was gonna be, but the DMM that was announced last summit was still definitely our pvp announcement this time too -.-

[narrow folio]

There will be a practice mode which allows players to jump into any boss in the raid and practice killing it on the regular difficulty. However, this mode will not be available on release, and will instead launch in the weeks following the raid's release. This will help keep things

Bit of a weird choice but im not opposed

[restive storm]

that rubs me the wrong way so badly lol

[ember token]

not really weird

[floral blaze]

Manked spilled the beans earlier in the month tbf, he was honest about there being fuck all for pvp lol

[narrow folio]

On release, a full team wipe will reset the raid. In the weeks following the release, we'll move to a TOA-style wipe system where you have infinite tries but reduced rewards and dwindling resources

What? Keep it one way or the other. Why change it?

[grim gull]

Rip to any mobile users too. Radio silence on that end

[restive storm]

its just so sad they fill the slot with StreamermanMode as if thats great news for the rest of us

[safe slate]

what happend to hd project no info on summit

[restive storm]

just clear they have no strategy for how to revitalize pvp other than throw money at streamers

[restive siren]

because its hype for launch

same as no practice mode

[narrow folio]

Tob didnt do this

[true talon]

probably because they want to hype the game, not bore the player base, so pvp stuff is not summit worthy.

[restive storm]

Even outside of PvP tho that whole thing was still a giant let down lol

[restive siren]

thats not an argument

[true talon]

however there can be more pvp stuff coming

[ember token]

tob didnt have an entry mode at launch no?

[trim ridge]

Not at all

The quest didn't exist then either, right?

[true talon]

Yes Yes, mains are going to be begging for accessible Dragon Arrows soon.

[narrow folio]

It feels a little convoluted to make it harder on release then make it easier in a couple weeks

[ember token]

yeah it was added 3 years later

[ember token]

thats not what it is lol

[torpid delta]

pvp gang 🤝 mobile gang

getting absolutely shafted

[ember token]

theyre adding the normal difficulty at launch

[restive storm]

? That’s not real expensive

[narrow folio]

Practice mode and wipes not resetting

[restive storm]

Ameen

[trim ridge]

Tbh that's what a LOT of MMOs do with their raids. RS3 just did it with Amascut and it was awesome.

[true talon]

already up 1k since before the summit

[narrow folio]

Oh really they copied the idea from rs3?

[true talon]

thats a 50% increase to their old price

[narrow folio]

Feels weird to me not to have it consistent

[restive storm]

I swear last time I bought they were like 2500 ea anyway

[minor whale]

Already back down

[trim ridge]

The Amascut boss was locked to its "max" difficulty at launch until a group managed to clear it. Was very exciting to watch.

[narrow folio]

Not a huge problem but still a weird choice to me

[minor whale]

Dragon Arrows aren't gonna rise, because you can improve them themselves

[obsidian venture]

Harder raid? Good

[limber creek]

only the most popular osrs content for people to watch/engage in but yeah w/e you're right. you a runestone too

[minor whale]

Supposedly the 'toughest' raid

[true talon]

more people watched games done quick CM run than any pvp crap combined

[restive storm]

Guess it’s just skull tricking and baiting for another couple of years for me man wish me luck

[narrow folio]

-_-

[limber creek]

almost like game done quick is its own channel that already has thousands of people that show up to every single game streamed they ever play. Great job at being a runestone once again with 0 reasoning skills.

[true talon]

I feel like these arrows means a tbow revamp is coming

[narrow folio]

I think it will put off raiders wanting to have a go but feel like they need to wait 2 weeks for it to be easier

[narrow folio]

I think theyll adjust the formula slightly

[minor whale]

First 2 weeks stuff will be as expensive as it'll ever be

[limber creek]

Also you're wrong.

A single odablock video got more views? Say wallah

[minor whale]

ToA was so easy the Shadow was above GE price for 2 days and then was 1.5b before the end of the week

[ember token]

Alongside the Red Reef quest, we would like to introduce the ability to fight boats at sea. These aren't just NPCs like you're used to - these are boats that can hold NPCs inside it, just like your boat. This could lead to interesting encounters where you might be attacking a ship and the pirates on that boat at the same time!

[true talon]

thats a video view lol

[limber creek]

https://tenor.com/bCNWG.gif

[narrow folio]

Also gdq isnt fair to compare because maybe viewers were logged on to see other events and continued on this one

[limber creek]

Careful bro any critical thinking and hes gonna short circuit.

[true talon]

Leagues also has vastly more players than any pvp event 🙂 your own DMM all stars is needing pvm content creators to even have enough people for a team.

[solid moss]

tbh if you look at streamers view counts. Oda has more viewers than every other osrs streamer

[restive storm]

idk man maybe they gotta rethink doing these things

[true talon]

im sorry but pvp is not going to bring people to osrs

[restive storm]

cuz like that was such a waste of time lol

[languid ravine]

didnt the terrible dmm factions just have more views than that lmao

[dawn jackal]

mildly dissapointing not to get anything "new" in this, can't wait to see how they try and balance these new trees and hunter critters

[restive storm]

or like only do them when theyre really announcing stuff

thats new

[dawn jackal]

glad the mods at least had fun with the presentation i suppose

[limber creek]

bros a absolute bozo. ironman i knew youd cry about the arrows. You cry about anything not easyscape for your self imposed restrictions.

[true talon]

? can you name one activity i can do to get d arrows that are not rng? ill wait.

[obsidian venture]

[frozen lion]

I'm def not dismantling my demonic throne to put leagues one lol, unless we can dismantle it to get mats back

[floral blaze]

DMM factions finale had more views than when they announced Raids 4 on the OSRS twitch channel

[ember token]

you know whats also crazy, 0 mention of official HD, official plugin support, mobile, etc

[minor whale]

Yeah that's a big letdown

[limber creek]

This thing called the GE. I know you have no clue what it is so you should wiki it.

[languid ravine]

dmm factions was literally made to advertise the osrs stream

xddddddd

[true talon]

ill give you that.

[hard axle]

everything is rng to an extent unless its a static spawn ngl

rng to get gp

rng to get gp equivalent

[restive storm]

this is what i dont really get, they promote it like that, and then we get 1 dmm every like 2 years

[hard axle]

so like...

[torpid delta]

at this point i just want them to tell us it's cancelled so we can all at least move on instead of being strung along for the past 2+ years

[floral blaze]

Crazy they couldnt peak past their DMM factions finale viewership? Wowzers!

[restive storm]

and main game PvP is totally left to rot

[true talon]

Not true, there are methods in the game to produce GP at a rate that if you did it for X time you would have the exact estimated GP.

[limber creek]

aint it wild. But johnny pvm is gonna throw a fit about it and act like hes right no matter what!

[true talon]

D arrows do not have that same system

[restive storm]

and like from their podcasts they do these events to "drum up hype for pvp" but also don't actually update pvp, so how could any1 get excited about it lol

[hard axle]

most are still rng

[ember token]

they just said expect the roster of echo bosses to be about the same

lol

[hard axle]

if not all

[limber creek]

Oh agdq had more viewers ahurrr. Bro can't even refute the video numbers posted of a random oda video lmao

[frozen lion]

I wish we could put the ornament on throne without dismantling owned one, like can remove ornament without destroying owned throne

Wasting 25 magic stone sounds crazy

[solid moss]

where are you using d arrows that youre running out? Have you met my friend amethyst arrows?

[hard axle]

im telling u, stop trying to cater to restricted builds and u will have a better time

the issue is even if u pvp, people within the community disagree with what the right approach is

[languid ravine]

nah ppl are most excited for the bingo update

[limber creek]

No because they dont match his perogative. he needs to shoot scurrius with d arrows or else pvpers are a problem.

[hard axle]

I think we should kill tp/tb dynamic and just add more safespots that u have to escape to with ur loot, i think we should kill pures (let anyone attack anyone) in the wildy, etc.

[restive storm]

i agree, but that would still require them to actually try SOMETHING

[hard axle]

someone else will disagree

with what i think

[restive storm]

the last thing they tried was singles+ and it ruined the entire wildy

and that was like 4-5 years ago?

[limber creek]

im all for it. They chose those restrictions upon themselves.
Also itd be funny to be a raid boss tanking like 30 pures at once.

Anything but a main account is a snowflake you made up in your head.

[dawn jackal]

what exactly is the point of another hunter method that tops out at 250k xp / hr

by my count we have 3 already in the game

[nocturne solstice]

Probably variety and resources

[true talon]

im not using them, because amythst is worth getting over what it takes to sustain d arrows.

[dawn jackal]

theres 6 trillion ways to train hunter i don't get it

[solid moss]

i still have my 6k arrows from my CG grind. D arrows arent an issue

[restive storm]

not more all stars talk man

[nocturne solstice]

damn we went from 3 to 6 trill real damn quick

[restive storm]

im gonna lose it

[true talon]

i can do 10 hours of mining an get 20k amyethst arrows. but i can do 10 hours of trying to get d arrows an get none

[limber creek]

just gonna ignore how wrong he was about what he said earlier. good stuff beast.

[true talon]

the problem is im not garunteed to get arrows when i go grind

[dawn jackal]

250k / hr - red & black chins, rumors, supposedly the crabs from sailing no ones done
other methods - birdhouses, herbiboar, afk monkeys

[true talon]

get a t bow, ven bow and a scorching bow an then use d arrows for every single grind you do an come back an say that.

[dawn jackal]

just seems like a waste

[frozen lion]

If league's ornament for throne will be possible to put on existing throne I will be happy

[narrow folio]

A slow skilling method for dragon ammo? Im down

[restive storm]

theyd whine cuz its TOO slow

theres no point

[warm epoch]

do you have a bow that uses them

[solid moss]

i have all 3 and i dont use d arrows because they're not needed

[solid moss]

yes i have tbow venator and scorching

[true talon]

no? ill fully support a 500-750 d arrow per hour afk method like amythsy mining

[true talon]

its not about not being needed, its about not having BIS while using BIS all because the game dictates you of not having a method.

[solid moss]

why does everything for ironman have to be easily obtainable?

[nocturne solstice]

Id agree with reds and hunter rumours. Black chins being wildy means its less popular and to some not even an option (by choice). Crabs I dont think people really know about/do yet cause its so new.

Other methods are fine and not concerned about it.

People just like variety tbh and more content is always good. It's not like that's all we got, we have that new fishing leech too.

[languid ravine]

ironman should have access to a GE with discounted prices fr fr

[tacit wharf]

tassili just has a thing about darrows

[solid moss]

d arrows are meant for speedruns and CAs

[true talon]

they dont currently have any method? why are you not understanding this?

[solid moss]

not for shooting cows in lumbridge

[true talon]

no they are not

[solid moss]

it doesnt need a method

[solid moss]

yes they are on an iron. Amethyst arrows are just as good. What are you missing like 2-3 max hits?

[true talon]

they are end game ammo that you should be allowed to use with your end game weapons, currently the only reason irons can not use them, is because there is no method to obtain them.

[dawn jackal]

if the method is meant to be for xp only then make it comparable to black chins but not just boxtraps

[nocturne solstice]

Dont mind him too much, he's had a thing with wanting a guaranteed way to get dragon ammo for years now here.

[dawn jackal]

just an odd space to add yet another hunter method

[nocturne solstice]

You wont change his mind or clarify things

[solid moss]

ah okay fair enough

[true talon]

their only argument is they arent needed........

that doesnt change the issue

[nocturne solstice]

okay

[final umbra]

Hows people thoughts on Venators being the "Task only Vyrewatch sentinels"

[meager flame]

i wonder what they actually mean by a harder raid

[warm epoch]

weird comment to make tbh

[solid moss]

@true talon is there a good way of getting d darts?

[nocturne solstice]

Might be a new resource for X typa thing and hunter just made sense as the skill to get the item.

[meager flame]

im assuming they're talking about the base difficulty

[true talon]

Tbow is not needed, shadow is not needed, scythe is not needed? so why do they exist?

is basicaly their argument

[limber creek]

because if they dont bitch for easyscape then the game wont be ruined for mains duh. they want an easily bottable way to obtain anything.

[nocturne solstice]

Well would you wanna get all riled up and get in a fight with someone or just get told that "yeah that guy wont change his mind" so that you can move on?

It's all to prevent people getting into arguments and upset I assure you.

[solid moss]

to progress your account. thankfully there's a substitute for d arrows called amethyst unlike scythe and shadow that have to use their ammo

[dawn jackal]

the blogpost says this is not a resource focused hunter activity

[true talon]

no, its a problem with all d ammo...... but blowpipe has been phased out basically.

[nocturne solstice]

Damn ill have to read it, still watching the stream lmao

[dawn jackal]

idk just weird, hopefully more clarity is involved but there never is !

[frozen lion]

If you are suffering from grinding end game supplies, just play a main.

[restive storm]

i feel like everyone here is pretty open minded and reasonable

[limber creek]

Blood runes are to much for my scythe why can't i charge it with mind runes i can't stand you mains and your ability to trade!

[nocturne solstice]

I didnt realize it was open mic night at the comedy club

[restive storm]

good news is theyre now rock bottom price and theyll never go any higher 😂

[true talon]

? we can literally buy blood runes and pay much more than you do, i dunno what your trying to say silly boy.

[solid moss]

yeah gl with your way of thinking. probably should deiron if this is your complaint

[mint rune]

People really throw irons under the bus cus of a few weirdos.... you mains got them too 😂

[true talon]

Group ironman trying to pipe up lol funny.

[limber creek]

Dang. Who?

[restive storm]

just hunt the dragon imps man

they give u d arrows

[solid moss]

i have a group and 2 irons LMFAO

[solid moss]

you have no idea what you're talking about

[limber creek]

Quit making sense.

[meager flame]

you probably shouldn't use the blood rune example though fr

[nocturne solstice]

The only thing that I can think of is that they're clearly going for afk-ish red chin type xp lvling. Red chins tend to have a lot of competition because of... reasons so this might be an option for players who dont care about profit and want something more relaxing.

Just my guess on it

[restive storm]

all i know is i had thousands and thousands when i deironed

[meager flame]

thats specifically an example where jagex made it easier for this exact reason lol

[true talon]

your right, me an every other end game iron who see this as a problem dont know anything.

[limber creek]

I can buy both ❤️ i can use any example because i can afford it.

[solid moss]

youre not in the majority i promise you that

[limber creek]

now you're understanding!

[meager flame]

nono im not talking about what you can or cant buy im talking about if you're making a terrible argument that makes no sense or not

which you were

hope that helps

lmao like

[limber creek]

Maybe i was going off of that example runestone.

[meager flame]

they specifically made blood runes easier like a hundred times

[limber creek]

Just another way irons are babyscaped 😛

Ik what i did

[restive storm]

doing things you dont want to do has been a keystone of ironman content since its inception, idk how dragon arrows not being spewed out everywhere is somehow the big problem

[limber creek]

You even know what i did but can't see the point which is hilarious

[true talon]

they arent obtainable, i dunno why you dont understand this?

[restive storm]

it gives you some variety, rather than just PvM at XYZ boss and theyll give you everything you need

[solid moss]

you should probably send some chambers if you think d arrows are truly an issue and try using amethyst while youre doing it

[zenith pike]

Vampyrium lowkey sounds like EPL

[floral blaze]

WRONG

[restive storm]

arent obtainable? like i said i had thousands and thousands of them when i deironed from doing d imps

[limber creek]

if i dont have d arrows to fire at rats in lumberidge im gonna bitch about it for years in the discord buddy!

[restive storm]

you just dont want to do the content, which is fine

[true talon]

seems you lack the ability to understand the actual issue. its not a matter of if they are required, its the issue of not being usable, because they arent obtainable

[meager flame]

well its not that people do or dont want to do the content tbf

[frozen lion]

If you don't like doing content, just don't do it and stick to other ammo or deiron

[solid moss]

@true talon you can use them going for CAs and speedruns tho

[meager flame]

its in a place where you just shouldn't do that

[limber creek]

Just put em in your arrow slot and itll fire them brother. Sorry you're having a hard time understanding.

[meager flame]

like legitimately its just a waste of your time

[nocturne solstice]

I think y'all need to move on from this darrow discussion cause you guys are getting way too heated

[true talon]

why should i be forced to use them only for those activities? when i went though obtaining a twisted bow?

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[solid moss]

ill move away i dont think ill every understand his perspective so we'll agree to disagree

[nocturne solstice]

Thank you I appreciate it

[restive storm]

pls - i gotta get back to ranting that there were no pvp announcements 😭

[sharp cave]

deadman?

[meager flame]

i mean honestly if you actually want to understand it its easy like toxicity aside he just wants a method to go out and grind for the resource thats actually worth doing

[restive storm]

not an announcement thats been over a year and a half coming lol

[limber creek]

This should give us a good 6 hours thanks beast.

[sharp cave]

huge pvp update

[nocturne solstice]

What he really means is wildy pvp announcements

[meager flame]

currently how you get d arrows is just a waste of time and you just shouldn't go grind for them unless you're just

into that i guess

otherwise though

[nocturne solstice]

Let's just move on from that topic cause its not gunna go anywhere

[limber creek]

Acting like dmm is a main game pvp update shows how far detached you are from it whatsoever.

[true talon]

you been QQin about pvp and lack of multi-revs cartel style for over 2 weeks lol

[meager flame]

oh we can't actually talk about the game now

i see

[frosty hound]

i am not fond of it being trailblazer for the fourth time i would like something different personally !

[sharp cave]

leagues isnt a main game update but im still excited for it as a main game player?

[limber creek]

Youve been bitchin about d arrows for years according to a mod. Pipe down. Go to #ironman we do not care.

[restive storm]

this as well for sure, the fact that they announced "Dmm All stars" and that actual dmm was the afterthought to that, kinda speaks volumes of their approach currently

makes me sad 🙁

[nocturne solstice]

I dont see why you'd say that unless you just wanted to have an argument with Tassili for some reason.

[limber creek]

Good for you sweetheart. Nobody asked.

[restive storm]

i also hate leagues announcements tbf

[sharp cave]

and nobody asked for the pvpers to bitch about the lack of updates either

[restive storm]

we basically got 0 real announcements the entire summit

[meager flame]

you dont know why i'd talk about dragon arrows and how to obtain them in a discord for talking about osrs

[sharp cave]

nobody asked.

[ember token]

they have yet to fix the broken image in island design competition blog https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a=97/sailing-player-designed-island-competition-finalists?oldschool=1

[true talon]

Dunno im just always attacked and told to de-iron, its very werid how this one thing is defended.

[nocturne solstice]

Tone down the insults there man

[limber creek]

Sweetheart's an insult lol?

[sharp cave]

thats real constructive isnt it

[nocturne solstice]

Why are we playing this game about who think what know who is what. We can be adults here.

[restive storm]

y r u @ing yourself, but i do agree

[floral blaze]

Facts

[sharp cave]

i know

[floral blaze]

Some of the cinematics were cool, I guess

[nocturne solstice]

Saying someone has been bitching and calling people runestone then sweetheart sarcastically is yes.

Its patronizing

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[meager flame]

i dont even know what you were trying to type here im ngl

also i wouldn't argue with tass because i tend to want a fun method to get arrows

[true talon]

what even is a runestone lol

[limber creek]

Oh but attacking nonstop over d arrows for years is totally cool okay my bad beast.

[mint rune]

🍿 🍿 🍿 Had to pause the summit cus this show was getting too good to miss

[restive storm]

ngl i do not appreciate the respond to that cuz i tried to read it and almost had a stroke

[nocturne solstice]

What

[true talon]

i didnt know bringing up a problem is attacking?? lol

[nocturne solstice]

Tassili is allowed to have an opinion on Darrows even if people disagree

[chrome lantern]

I love that image

I have it favorited on my phone

[nocturne solstice]

I dont agree with it either but I just dont engage with it

[meager flame]

lmao

[limber creek]

Sorry love i won't ever reply to him again.

[restive storm]

i def see where you're coming from and agree in most scenarios, but when it comes to things i actually care about (PvP, and -xp lamps) and people clearly have no idea what theyre talking about it, these hands are rated E for everyone

[mortal iris]

Nothing about HD update and plugins?!

[narrow folio]

I'd love to plunk down and afk skill for 200 darrows an hour or something

[true talon]

id argue these are very bias takes in which you benefit greatly XD

[narrow folio]

Also what do u think about making haddock not make its overheal capped? It heals 18 hp but can only overheal up to 10.

[zenith pike]

Isn’t that the point of asking for things?

[restive storm]

and how would i benefit "greatly" pray tell

[true talon]

no, you should point out flawed systems or things that should be changed for the greater good. not advocate for benefical personal gains

[grim gull]

Nope

[narrow folio]

Also I'm very happy the new amulet doesnt have any restriction on what weapon benefits most from it

[meager flame]

im ngl i cant believe we're getting crush d claws instead of like

a crush weapon for people to just use

[true talon]

-xp lamps means your not a failed 2200 total 3 defense pure

[true talon]

seeker arrows seem a bit contriversal

[hidden valley]

Was there a game update ?

Today

[true talon]

+23 accuracy and +2 min hit lol

[ember token]

no because game updates are on wednesdays, not sundays

[hidden valley]

Oh

How often

[nocturne solstice]

I prefer the "explain and help them understand" approach rather than the "call them timmies and challenge them to a 1v1 in wildy pvp nh" approach which I see here now and then.

[restive storm]

right but GREATLY benefit? does that seem to really fit? lol

[nocturne solstice]

Probably here or #old-school

[restive storm]

i dont even change a combat level lol

[narrow folio]

can you add min hit in gearscape for custom items?

[restive storm]

eh, not me bro im not tryina 1v1 anyone, i just skull trick them or dont bother rn

too many cheaters, and turbo sweats w/ no jobs that are just not worth fighting

[zenith pike]

Yeah, so how doesn’t your interpretation of how d-arrows fit into that, how are its benefits stacked against its cons for everyone involved

[dawn jackal]

brother man read the thing

[nocturne solstice]

It will require WGS

[dawn jackal]

they will provide more info later

[restive storm]

SMH pures only getting consideration when it comes to raiding 🙄

[nocturne solstice]

Wait for future for their answer about snowflake accounts

[true talon]

there are no cons, accessible d arrows helps curve their high cost for mains and availability for irons. personally they shouldnt be on any drop table, they should be produced from skilling.

but they cant remove them off drop tables, untill they actually make a method to create them

[restive storm]

there's quite literally 0 chance theyre willing to tell "iron pures" to pound sand, so either WGS wont be required, or the requirements for WGS will change

[dawn jackal]

my good man the sentence you quoted says they will expand later

[nocturne solstice]

Things change over time, you can assume the requirement is now and that accomodate may come later.

[dawn jackal]

do not fear

[true talon]

pures can do WGS

[nocturne solstice]

Iunno maybe itll be polled or something

[narrow folio]

by the way with the new upgrades, tbow will beat zcb autoattacks on nex again

[restive storm]

cant do dream mentor

or natures spirit

[true talon]

ahh right

[minor whale]

Can you calc tbow v ZCB at Leviathan

That was always one somewhat closeish

But ZCB wins

[true talon]

im wrong about that. it was zerkers who can do it.

[narrow folio]

zcb beats by 5% ish still

[restive storm]

yea they def can

[narrow folio]

idk how tf to add 2 min hit so i just added 3 more str instead

tbow overtakes bp

[true talon]

Those who say i want d arrows, because i have none

its just easier to get amyethst

[restive storm]

🆗 man then i dont see what the problem is

seems fine to me if u got 23k ready to go

[dawn jackal]

inshallah do not respond to the silly ironman and his silly dragon arrow rant

[narrow folio]

and if im right, bowfa will straightup lose to bp at leviathan

[meager flame]

inevitable honestly

[true talon]

cant use them, gotta keep for end game content. they arent restockable.

i wasted 5k when doom came out from stupid grubs

[restive storm]

sounds like a u problem

i have plenty

[minor whale]

They confirmed grubs didn't eat arrows didn't they

[restive storm]

(u also have plenty)

[meager flame]

they didn't actually fix why the bp gets too strong they just kicked it down the road so they're just gonna keep looping back to bp suddenly being way too good

[nocturne solstice]

Pretty sure they did yeah

[meager flame]

as we get more gear

[narrow folio]

I tested grubs myself and they dont eat arrows