game-update

[carmine junco]

So brave

[brisk hill]

The only ones mad are those aggro if over Fortnite tbh

[restive storm]

relac no need to be toxic

[brisk hill]

See why aggro

Tomorrow Friday

[restive storm]

simply stating fact

[brisk hill]

Chill out lol

[thick beacon]

i think its just perspective to though. like im not that impressed by people who max esp irons. to me a impressive iron is based on their gear

[carmine junco]

You love fornite is all I'm learning

[limber creek]

We can give examples of timmyscape if youd like and stop attacking.
Leave ego elsewhere. Go to sharkbrew or something if you wanna flame.

[brisk hill]

I haven’t played for years tbh

But you are fuming about it

[restive storm]

even this is not impressive these days tbh

[brisk hill]

That’s fair! I think in a few years UIM will be the only game mode respected

[true talon]

name one

[brisk hill]

But don’t get mad at me for it

[carmine junco]

Just thinking you'd fit in better with the people who play fortnite than osrs

[restive storm]

already is

[limber creek]

Run energy changes.

[brisk hill]

As it’s an opinion

[meager flame]

ya because the game has actual impressive goals in it now

[brisk hill]

[craggy cairn]

deathpiles are cheating

[meager flame]

nobody cares if you went afk at corp for 2 months to get an ely

[limber creek]

Iron timmys wanted it so bad.
Mains didn't care cause we can buy staminas at level 3.

[meager flame]

get a zuk helm and they'll care

[true talon]

? this benefited everyone....

[brisk hill]

Luckily I play this game instead

[meager flame]

etc

[carmine junco]

Unfortunate.

[brisk hill]

What are you saying?

I’m confused

[chrome lantern]

tf is sharkbrew

[true talon]

its less stams for mains, its less stams needed for raids or high energy activities.

[brisk hill]

Jagex tried to
Ban me once we just went again

[limber creek]

you dont wanna know tbh.. lol

[meager flame]

thats just the natural progression of things once jagex added actual flex goals to the game

[brisk hill]

Gz Reign of Terror

[carmine junco]

I can't imagine why

[meager flame]

the old ones that actually didn't take anything impressive but time get pushed to the side

[brisk hill]

I don’t UIM so idk

I’d leave it up to those who played the game mode since the beginning

To make integrity changes

[dawn jackal]

gz

[brisk hill]

& not 2025 iron men

[thick beacon]

skills get devalued but pvm always has more and more. cas are a decent quantifier of that. like we just got sailing but idk how quick those skills will come in. ive seen it be very hard for people to keep up with the game esp irons

[brisk hill]

:p

[restive storm]

pvm is more devalued than ever with lvl of gear we have

[limber creek]

you mean salvaging simulator put irons behind? nahhhh

[floral blaze]

Hahaha what a joke 😂

[meager flame]

nah sailing is easy

[restive storm]

theres also currently basically 0 difference between being a clogger and being an iron rn

[meager flame]

i have two 99 sailing accounts for no effort

[limber creek]

What main gives af about any piece of salvage they pull up that isn't cannon barrel or clog is beyond me. But it seems like a lotta good things for iron timmys

[thick beacon]

thats the one thing skilling got to be slightly more difficult

1 extra skill to max

[chrome lantern]

I still hate that Jagex said Salvaging was too good for how afk it was, then released it, and they weren't even accounting for the Crystal Extractor properly, then they refused to stick to their guns when they nerfed it

[meager flame]

im not mad at it though it let me keep my old main slightly in date by getting the max cape back easily

just bonded it up and got 99 sailing off salvage for free

[brisk hill]

Point is game is turning into a meme (Fortnite) by brand new ironmen who DONT have time to play the game with these restrictions. Does that mean the game should completely change for them? Some say yes, some say no.
I think the game overall is devalued when you make it easier for a certain crowd & thus a meme

[true talon]

it wasnt to good, it was fine. the issue was everything else was bad other than water selphcure

[brisk hill]

Ty Ted talk

[meager flame]

i'll still have a mountain of work to do if i ever do play my main unfortunately

[chrome lantern]

I mean trials should've been nerfed too

[brisk hill]

Not trolling

[meager flame]

a bunch of quests have been added in the past like 6 years

[chrome lantern]

I refuse calling it water sepulcher because it's not good content like sepulcher is

It has 0 variance, it's just a memorization test

[restive storm]

they had to make it too good cuz all the other content sucked ass

ad nobody wanted to do it

[thick beacon]

i think standards are way higher gm alone is something that most ppl dont get. standard of pre raids og era was just barrows for most part or pretty fast grinds. even if u can do barrows/zulrah faster cuz of the powercreep overall extra grind is way bigger imo.

[chrome lantern]

I mean hot take it's fine to have a slow skill, and it wasn't even a slow skill when they nerfed it

[thick beacon]

only thing that is prob harder is ely but that item is pretty useless

[meager flame]

tbf sepulchre kind of has no variance done the right way

its only when other people are there with you that it gets wonky

[chrome lantern]

There's at least randomness to the arrows

Requires >0 brain power

And portals

[carmine junco]

A Ted talk would do better at actually explaining what you mean more than vaguely comparing two entirely different things and complaining.

[true talon]

Most people ignore GM, because all the TOB crap is not very fun to have to find people for or have to pay for. also the rewards for GM does literally nothing now.

[meager flame]

tbh the tob stuff isn't even worst offender

theres a bunch of weird group CAs in the other two raids

[true talon]

Also you have to get it back every single time they create a new boss which also offers no new rewards

[oblique mesa]

Once sepulcher clicks it just click floor tiles and is a slight step above rooftops, floor 5 being the same every time also sucks because that is just memorization

[true talon]

its just an endless grind that makes the goal post every update

[meager flame]

like i swear toa CAs were trying to feed booster families

[brisk hill]

Yeah the message you’re replying to are my thoughts on the situation for the most part. I’m sorry you’re having a bad day though. Please remember tomorrow is Friday & then the weekend 👍

[dawn jackal]

go pull a 110k hour then tell me its rooftops

[carmine junco]

The the

[dawn jackal]

wont stand for this hallowed sephulcre slander

[brisk hill]

So angry lol

[true talon]

Everyone crying about the KC CA's but are ok with the finding group to be as good as you CA's lol

[carmine junco]

Your thoughts are nonsense. At least put some effort in

[oblique mesa]

I like sepulcher but being better than the rest of point and click skilling isn't a high standard lol

[true talon]

Guess the boosters dont wanna give up their pay roll

[meager flame]

tbf the big streamer people who have talked about this the most like gnomonkey

actually hate the group CAs just as much as the kc ones

[brisk hill]

There is no thought in anything I say. You are correct

[meager flame]

idk why jagex is so silent about group CAs

[carmine junco]

Thanks

[brisk hill]

Gz RoT

[meager flame]

they're obviously not working as intended

[brisk hill]

Winning

[dawn jackal]

its pretty simple to go brain off 100k / hr at seph but to maximize the content is not

i think thats a good win

[true talon]

If it was me, i would remove all Group CA's and have only the solo challenges be there to get you to the ranking. this measures your solo player ability to the max.

all raid CA's removed

[limber creek]

#ironman is over here yall.

[brisk hill]

Have a good day beast

[meager flame]

i mean i'd leave raid CAs just make them so its personal

[limber creek]

I think thats what you're looking for.

[oblique mesa]

Yeah maximizing you do need to lock in.
But you can get decent xp rates while multiskilling while watching TV

[meager flame]

like

lol

[true talon]

thats a good one too, perfect tob being done by just your performance would fix that awful CA

[meager flame]

it always sucks when its like "get 5 people and do this perfectly so you can get your individual reward but if they mess up and you don't then fuck you lol"

its just silly

and leads to boosting

like people who are good enough buy teammates

[limber creek]

maybe if you can't find a group to do the ca with you're not really a grandmaster at runescape. You know the social mmo.
Unless ur an irontimmy.

[meager flame]

its dumb

no people can get groups for it easily

they buy their teammates

[true talon]

There are very few people who even go for these CA's, most people including streamers pay boosting groups to go with them.

[meager flame]

thats the whole stupid part about it

[true talon]

most people who can do it, already finished

[limber creek]

Dang maybe you should make a #1022203837265756231

cool back to pvpcord

[meager flame]

like sure you could go find enough people who are also good enough and socialize etc if your group maybe isn't quite big enough already

but everyone just goes path of least resistance and buys people to do it with them

well i shouldn't say everyone

but most people who end up in that situation do that

[true talon]

I mean CA's as a whole esp GM is a never ending goalpost in which you reclaim after every boss drop with no additional reward, while also adding more an more tasks to people who just started doing CA's

[brisk hill]

Things like this are why I say the games turning into a meme though

Like why not just learn the content

“Don’t have time” is kind of everyone’s excuse for everything in it

[limber creek]

🦀 🦀 The worse the multi is for us. The worse the multi is gonna be for other humans. 🦀 🦀
🦀 🦀 Allow us to destroy the bots and save the economy that we can actually control 🦀 🦀
🦀 🦀 1t Tele delay below 30. Multi Rev caves. Zombie Pirates to 35 wilderness. 🦀 🦀

[meager flame]

thats the thing people do learn the content most people buying the boost are still participating and doing the methods mostly correctly

the problem is also knowing enough other people who also learned

[limber creek]

Just get good is the answer but yall dont like that btw.

[thick beacon]

ye I was just saying how much more complex game is both with skilling/pvm think peak 2013 was how good u were at picking flax and turning protect melee on at barrows. gwd wasint even out. standards were so low anyone could do it.

[true talon]

Most people want to learn on their own time, not sit around waiting or finding people to go with them. an then after learning it, have someone in our group fail it for you.

[thick beacon]

skilling was way harder but skilling always been more of a grind then anything

[brisk hill]

Unlucky that guy is still learning. Have some grace & go again!

[meager flame]

gotta fill the group with somebody basically even if you know what you're doing

[limber creek]

People solo tob. Go get it beast. You're just as good as them no?

[dawn jackal]

skilling wasn't even harder lol 2013 you slapped the black demon for 4 hours and booted up the LOL client

[brisk hill]

Like this idea that everyone is an elite lvl gamer is asinine

[limber creek]

You wanna be grandmaster but you dont wanna do the tasks hmm.

Classic irontimmy.

[meager flame]

you should read the tasks lol if you actually mean this

you can't do many of them solo explicitly like it wont work

[true talon]

id argue that if you can do all the solo player tasks, then GM is justified, you shouldnt need to go do all the raid Ca's with other players to prove that you are a GM

[meager flame]

especially in toa

[limber creek]

Never said it'd be easy beast.

Is what it is.

[brisk hill]

I feel like trying & failing is the whole point of the game

[limber creek]

Progression! Try it sometime.

[brisk hill]

The minute its PEAK PERFORMANCE 247 AHHH

[ember grove]

having to rely on the other morons who play this game to get you a personal solo achievement recognizing your own gameplay is kind of silly

[brisk hill]

How do you enjoy the game anymore lol

[restive storm]

dmm allstars channel already died 😢 real glad we added that instead of a pking channel

[thick beacon]

I apperciate that when it comes to like blorva radiant inferno etc they always make it solo

[meager flame]

ya almost nobody actually thinks it makes sense once you're at the point of doing those things

[limber creek]

They dont. They sit on discord all day trying to type to pvpers while shop scaping on their ironman to buy cannonballs to train unfinished sailing combat because timmy needs his dragon hook right now.

[carmine junco]

Damn. Pking is so close to making a resurgence too...

[velvet orchid]

Yeah toa ones are weird in general most people either leach them or just do it solo as a 2 scale

[meager flame]

toa is just the funny example because you can actually perfectly execute many of the toa CAs but because nobody is actually in the raid with you

it just doesn't count

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-because-motion-booster-life-motion-slow-motion-mad-gif-11091899462463112072

pvp rn

[limber creek]

#achievements is over there if yall wanna talk about it.

[brisk hill]

Im going to mace a noob for his bank later becuase you said that!

[limber creek]

Plenty more timmys to agree to you and echo chamber.

[carmine junco]

Trueeeeeeeeee

[brisk hill]

I will tell them to blame you!

[true talon]

PVP must be making a comeback, infernal cape sales have sky rocketed!!!!! (joking)

[limber creek]

mace a noob for me beast.

[brisk hill]

Got u

[restive storm]

??

[limber creek]

How would you know. Why are you selling infernal capes that is against tos sir.

[brisk hill]

How the turned tables

[carmine junco]

I can count on one entire hand the number of pvpers in this channel, it's back in a big way

[brisk hill]

I could get more

[true talon]

it was a joke, but majority of the pvpers i see with 1 zuk kc are pretty damn bad

[brisk hill]

Do you want that?

[restive storm]

more people than that ARENT pvpers in this chat tbf

[brisk hill]

The ones in here are actually pretty calm even if you think I’m a troll

But can bring others I guess?

[carmine junco]

If you can find anyone I guess

I hear the wildy is dead

[restive storm]

im p much here as a representative of my friend group

[brisk hill]

Most of them are discord typers these days becuase we don’t updates

[restive storm]

(irons cant say the same because they stand alone)

[limber creek]

I got my own cape :D. But it wasn't pretty lmao. Inferno hard. But i kept at it till i got it. Im sure with mage method nowadays i could probably get the next a lot easier. Hell just the experience of doing it once fixes a lot of nerves problem lol.

[true talon]

if they ban all the bots, the pkers wont have any prey.

[carmine junco]

Makes sense, no updates for no people

Just vote for the things you want in the game

[brisk hill]

Unfortunately DMM argues against you

I can’t wait to pk noobs

[true talon]

Im hype for this DMM as it looks cool

[carmine junco]

I was told dmm isnt the same thing yesterday :c

[restive storm]

i cant wait to still grief all the little noobs running around questing

[carmine junco]

Wildy pvp is totally cool and different to dmm

[brisk hill]

I saw someone say “it’ll be a net loss to pk in DMM!”

[restive storm]

just cuz they think theyre safe now w/ no risk

[brisk hill]

I’m still going to pk them tbh

[analog crow]

dmm is the future of pvp
feels good

[brisk hill]

Cannot wait

[true talon]

Only reason im playing the DMM is for the cosmetics

[limber creek]

lets go limited time gamemode that i don't give a shit about!!

[brisk hill]

It’s not! But cherry picking isn’t going to work either

[restive storm]

"but im not risking anything broo"

[true talon]

Im glad they added cosmetics to DMM and making it a pvp type leauge game mode

[carmine junco]

Oops looks like they don't agree with you :/

[meager flame]

i do think the limited time stuff is getting kind of weird in a way

[carmine junco]

They don't think dmm is cool

[limber creek]

https://tenor.com/bvwWY.gif

[brisk hill]

I should be aggro to them for the rest of the day!

And a weirdo!

[meager flame]

idk how i feel about most people just doing it for the cosmetics instead of actually just having fun and wanting to play bc its good

[limber creek]

theyre trying to become world of warcraft lite lmao

[brisk hill]

Anyways

[limber creek]

Enjoy your seasonal gamemode timmy. Oh main game? Yeah we dont wanna ruin anything because its so perfect right now sorry doggie.

[brisk hill]

They brought cosmetics to it last year before turning it into what it is for this year

[meager flame]

i mean cosmetics or whatever can be cool like

[true talon]

ya and i played it last year

[brisk hill]

Pogger

[analog crow]

Is it any different than pkers needing pvmers to hunt rather than having fun at pvp arena?

[limber creek]

Cosmetics are peak timmyscape

[carmine junco]

Hey I'm sure they might have some pvp stuff for us to vote down in the summit content poll

Maybe

[meager flame]

in wow i've got some m+ end of season titles or famed raid titles and it was nice to get

[carmine junco]

If they remember

[meager flame]

but i was doing that content with or without those rewards

[true talon]

no they are incentive for people to get out an play the game mode.

[brisk hill]

I don’t care if they don’t tbh since I’m in the most active clan lol

[true talon]

even if you dont pvp

[limber creek]

You really want your spongebob dragon dagger don't you

[true talon]

and this go around they put a nice crystal + bowfa kit on the rewards

so you know a lot of irons will be doing it

[analog crow]

cosmetics good
wildy poh theme looks cool

[chrome lantern]

Crystal already has 6 recolors it didn't need another

[meager flame]

i just wish they would recolor stuff i actually use

[chrome lantern]

Wildy poh already passed poll and shouldn't be behind DMM to use

[meager flame]

and make it look nice

[limber creek]

Can't wait to be walking around as goku and smite a adventure time jake for his spongebob dagger.

[chrome lantern]

SotD kit is just nothing

[brisk hill]

It’s a cool way to bring in the content!

[meager flame]

like

give me a masori kit the one they showed synq iirc

[restive storm]

if u guys are also annoyed at them constantly making streamer only updates pls also like my comment in here https://discord.com/channels/324132423636090880/1461365816015589438

maybe theyll read it in the next year or so

[chrome lantern]

idk wym by this

[true talon]

I mean the cosmetics are also tradeable and often they are very expensive, because they become basically discontinued items untill the next DMM

[analog crow]

while I agree at least we're getting it and I dunno what else could drop it

[true talon]

playing DMM is one of the best money makers in the game also

[brisk hill]

Not even discontinued ppl just run out of points

[true talon]

Swapping to streamers nets billions

[meager flame]

he basically showed something like that on stream

[restive storm]

📠

[chrome lantern]

Please stop the red and black

[brisk hill]

Why swap to streamers when you can swap to RoT (we win anyways)

[meager flame]

i dont even care about the color it just looks better

[brisk hill]

[meager flame]

also fits dmm theme

[true talon]

ill swap to whoever is paying XD

[chrome lantern]

It "fits dmm theme" because they chose to continue the most overused color scheme in the game for dmm theme

[limber creek]

cant wait to slay 1t teleport bots once i find a way to break them to make money to buy my sponebob dagger cosmetic from an iron timmy so he can buy bonds because he played a seaonal game mode.

[meager flame]

its more about the damage/bandage looking stuff underneath

than the color

[chrome lantern]

That's like saying that faces on the Echo orn kits "fits the theme of leagues 5" because they decided to make the ugliest design motif in existence when they added faces on everything

[brisk hill]

Respectfully fellas

[chrome lantern]

The faces were the worst possible thing to add to those kits and had nothing to do with raging echoes until they decided it did for some reason

[brisk hill]

You got like 11 channels for leagues

This is PvPcord

[meager flame]

thats bc nothing fit raging echoes

they just decided the theme was purple and faces

[chrome lantern]

And they just decided the theme of dmm recolors is red and black

[meager flame]

that makes some kind of sense though

[oblique mesa]

Wym? PKers love the zammy mystics

[meager flame]

edgy people dying etc

red and black tend to get used for that in pretty much all media

[oblique mesa]

Sad that the wildy PoH is a cosmetic reward rather than just for free like the other ones it was announced with

[chrome lantern]

I will play the dmm but I don't actually think I'll be getting any of the rewards tbh

None of them appeal to me

[brisk hill]

If you were smart you’d wait a year for prices to be 6x

[limber creek]

any wildy cosmetic should be based on kills.

[chrome lantern]

The home tele animation is cool but I won't use it

That's about it

[oblique mesa]

Only if RoT gets banned with gorillian points

[brisk hill]

Please no

Not again

Mains 13 & 14

Are good.

[meager flame]

tbh it wouldn't be osrs if it didnt happen

[oblique mesa]

Yeahhh thats how I felt about the leagues home teleports. Regret them so much

[brisk hill]

I think the coolest animation is the veng one

[hard axle]

surefire way to get nuked imo

[brisk hill]

But prolly a nothing burger for normies

[meager flame]

end of dmm is our seasonal servers get hit offline and rot gets blamed regardless of if they actually did it or not

[chrome lantern]

I don't like the venge or alch animations because I just like the default ones better. I can respect liking it though

[brisk hill]

I thought swapping was allowed!

[minor whale]

At your own risk

[limber creek]

Its allowed just not moderated so you can get scammed is all.

[hard axle]

at your own risk, dummy

and guess who plagues the swapping scene?

rwt

[brisk hill]

Oh like if being scammed

Ohhh

[hard axle]

no lmao

[brisk hill]

OH!

[minor whale]

You can definitely get banned for it if someone you swap rwts

[meager flame]

tbh

[minor whale]

Lots of people do each year

[meager flame]

its so hard to get banned on osrs

[hard axle]

the only person that I would even remotely trust is KempQ

[brisk hill]

I never thought that far

[limber creek]

Pyro has spoken

[hard axle]

because he can get you unbanned

[limber creek]

so you know its true

[hard axle]

if u get sniped via his services

[brisk hill]

I never swap tbh

[limber creek]

Man only speaks truths.

[meager flame]

why would you trust the one guy we can factually say does rwt

[limber creek]

Hes never known a wrong answer.

[meager flame]

oh thats a good point

[brisk hill]

Even bringing money into DMM is a waste imo

[meager flame]

he is a creator

catches jagex in the situation of like

[restive storm]

zero reason for real money to be thrown around lol

[meager flame]

do we ban cheater or help creator

[hard axle]

he's not wrong - gp swapping and name selling is always fucking risky

[meager flame]

really put their brains in a blender for that one

lmao

[brisk hill]

Yeah like what’s max on day 3 really
Gonna do for you other than help you farm YT clips

[limber creek]

Streamers are worse than iron timmys.

[restive storm]

oh i thought u meant jagex prize money

[brisk hill]

That’s silly too I think but I meant like swapping into / out of DMM

[minor whale]

Swapping in money is just straight dumb

[brisk hill]

Not if you are a pker

I’m not a mega sweat so I’d never do it

But if I was a YouTuber / megasweat

I would

[minor whale]

YouTubers it makes sense

[brisk hill]

Megasweats normally have nefarious reasons to do it too I’d assume

[restive storm]

yeah fair, idc either way i make bills off it lo

[brisk hill]

???

Full circle my boy

Dead chat wanna apologize to @carmine junco & @craggy cairn I wasn’t trying to troll earlier I’m just a bit of a goofball

[restive storm]

disgusting stuff those rev bots are man

[brisk hill]

Eduardo just wants to make a living

[restive storm]

1/4 of the way to 200m maybe ACT picks up on it soon

[silk thicket]

Damn they reading pvpcord they just nuked zombie pirate and rogue bots

Tyvm @ jmods

lol

[brisk hill]

L0l

[ember grove]

lol

[small anvil]

A whole 180, so expensive

[true talon]

ya literally no barrier to making an acc like this

[true talon]

Quick panic buy blighted stuff stocks

[restive storm]

welp, no more dmm all stars channel for me 😢 i got cleared

[true talon]

I feel like this is caused by agility bots, they have an even lower barrier to entry and the loot from agility course is insane.

[silk thicket]

Ye but if u hopped at any of those spots recently

[restive storm]

yea p sure its more agility bots tbf

[true talon]

ya zombie pirates are insane right now

[silk thicket]

You’d know that there was like 7 bots per world at pirates and rogues

[true talon]

there is like 5+ bots every world

[silk thicket]

And 0-1 at course

[silk thicket]

Not as of an hour ago

[true talon]

but they dont got medium diary, so i dunno why they are there

they be better off going to revs

[silk thicket]

Some of em do

Some are 124cb with chainmace and cannon

[true talon]

medium diary has a lot of semi high skills

[silk thicket]

Well were

[true talon]

like 55 mining

[brisk hill]

The xp!

[silk thicket]

But agility course not been too bad since the muling change which is nice

[brisk hill]

Ppl bot for xp not just money

Selling accs with high skills is a market

[true talon]

that is true

a lot of pkers buy high skill accs

[silk thicket]

I hopped there at the weekend cuz I was doing a 1m challenge thing and couldn’t find a single bot

[brisk hill]

I’d love to see the data on that!

[silk thicket]

Was great but infuriating at the same time

[true talon]

i mean there is no reason for a normal person to buy lots of accounts with high stats..... esp to go pvm lol

But self tailored combat lvl accounts sounds like a bot farm to make pk accs

[brisk hill]

The best Pvm as established multiple times have high barrier of entires

You think the only reason to buy a high skill acc is to pvp?

Why would a pvper who only PVPs buy an acc with SOTE done ykwim

[true talon]

I mean what do you gain from buying an acc with no stats, no quests other than 45 prayer an 120 range

[chrome lantern]

for bofa

[brisk hill]

That’s a good use I agree but still the point remains

[brisk hill]

Nothing

An acc with 45 prayer & 99 range lol

What I mean is there are literal SOTE bot farm starter packs

I’m not saying pkers don’t bot

[restive storm]

@brisk hill welp we cant say we didnt try in there lol

[brisk hill]

But it’s disingenuous to think ppl don’t bot to sell accs to farm pvm

[brisk hill]

Idek how to find my way back there

[restive storm]

honestly fair this discord is a monstrosity lol, theres like 900 channels, but no pvp one

[true talon]

Wanna know of a crazy bot farm i found watching my friends pure doing shades of morton

[oblique mesa]

That bot farm has been there for a very long time

[true talon]

there is 124s there who have 80+ crafting, 92+ prayer, 87+ magic and 99 all melees with 1 in everything else

all from shades of morton

[brisk hill]

@restive storm

Probably the bots you saw!

[restive storm]

yeah prob

idk what theyre doin in that downtime in the weird gear tho lol

[true talon]

They get 83 magic to teleport to barrows

and some have like 90 magic from just teleporting there lol

[restive storm]

smh cloggers feeding the bot farms again

[true talon]

This why i play ironman, there is bot farms all over the place impacting the economy, basically jagex can control it by removing bot farms.

vorkath bones be at 8k an they remove a farm they go to 24k

lol

Dex is 8m they remove a doom farm its now 40m

oathplate was down to 30m per piece they removed yama farms an it went back to 100m

[vivid ruin]

You could technically iron as a main

[true talon]

Ya you could

but it takes self control

[brisk hill]

Imagine if more players did this

You wouldn’t have content that shit out resources everywhere

[fresh forge]

#game-news message this ruins my Dart-destruction Gielinor Games strat mfw

[true talon]

Id be like well i really need 1000 prayer pots, buttttttt im not going to go farm them bitches an pick up snapegrass off waterbirth island....

[restive storm]

yea iron super boring now

[vivid ruin]

Bonds wouldnt be 13-17m

[brisk hill]

The integrity of Ironman would still be intact if more ppl were realistic about their life/free time tbh

But that’s just my opinion!

[true talon]

iron still has plenty of intergrity, once they got rid of boosting services.

[icy relic]

Dex went to 40M because of bot farms shifting over to doom all needing rigour

[brisk hill]

But folks were talking about boosting services elsewhere. Like torso & CA’s

[vivid ruin]

Whatd you call me??

[brisk hill]

Torso is hard for noobs. Ppl don’t wanna waste time on a minigame so they pay

[true talon]

its not hard, its just garbage lol

[brisk hill]

Tbf defender role is the thing of nitghtmares

But is easy once you pick up some tricks

[icy relic]

Defender is the easiest role

[vivid ruin]

I thought all roles were ez

[brisk hill]

I think so but if you’re new it’s impossible

[icy relic]

You mark two tiles and you're good

[chrome lantern]

Defender fastest role

[true talon]

You got robbed bro

[chrome lantern]

BA unironically good minigame with competent team

[icy relic]

You finish before everyone else and it's basically afk

[brisk hill]

I’m not disagreeing with you!

Experienced players it’s nbd

[vivid ruin]

Its intimidating and confusing at first

[icy relic]

I watched a 30 second video and then was able to do defender perfectly

It's really that easy

[brisk hill]

I used torso as an example & now we are going off on a tirade

Just fix pvp

[icy relic]

Mark two tiles and stand on trap

[vivid ruin]

Yeah this is pvp chat

[restive storm]

i cant believe we got pointed to the "discord suggestions" page again man

[true talon]

Torso is dead content for mains an irons, you just buy a bloodmoon plate

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[brisk hill]

Agreed

[restive storm]

as if theyre gonna read it this time

[chrome lantern]

Counterpoint: Moons is horrendously awful content and I will still use my torso

[brisk hill]

Agreed!

[true talon]

I green log moons, because i can an i actually liked the content.

[restive storm]

all of varlamore just ruined the year for me man

[chrome lantern]

Moons might actually just be the single worst PvM in the game

[true talon]

Blood moon kinda stupid if your not a max main though lol

[brisk hill]

Good news, you’re almost guaranteed to green log

No going dry beast!

[chrome lantern]

0 skill ceiling, 70% of your time spent not interacting with the bosses between waiting and running between

[restive storm]

ye kinda hard to not greenlog there lmao

[vivid ruin]

Moons > barrows

[tough nacelle]

Idk if I agree

Moons is popular

I dislike it

[restive storm]

dont do my GOAt LIKE THAT

[chrome lantern]

https://discord.com/channels/324132423636090880/1380928210937581770

[tough nacelle]

Blood moon might be a bit too strong

[true talon]

As someone who did 2295 barrows for the only piece that matters which was the DH axe. IM glad moons had order and dupe protection.

[icy relic]

I hate barrows too

Both ass

[tough nacelle]

But I think moons is good content for the intended level bracket

[restive storm]

O NO! a whole 2300 barrows chests

[brisk hill]

Iron meme 😔

[chrome lantern]

Even if barrows is a low standard I don't think you can say it's worse than moons

[restive storm]

just relac and grind man its chill

[dawn jackal]

i don't think moons is perfect by any means but i think it does its role well

[vivid ruin]

Barrows makee my eyes glaze over first run

[oblique mesa]

Amen thats what I say about world hopping, just relax and chill bro its okay if there are more worlds

[true talon]

ya being in full torva infernal cape an master CA's out there doing barrows XD

[dawn jackal]

introductory pvm - just the balance on the rewards is pretty off

[restive storm]

i did my barrows with slayer dart like a real man back on my iron

[brisk hill]

Clog?

[vivid ruin]

We add barrows to bingo for torture

[true talon]

DH axe was my last item XD

[chrome lantern]

Moons is simultaneously too awful for when you do the content and the uniques are too powerful for how easy they are to get

[brisk hill]

Sorry for your luck fella & gl on your endeavors

[chrome lantern]

It's kinda a baffling balance

But they managed to screw up on both accounts

[vivid ruin]

#pvpcord

[true talon]

I dont think so. i feel they are properly powerful.

[chrome lantern]

Nah they're WAY too powerful for earlygame items

[true talon]

They arent early game items

they are more mid game

[chrome lantern]

They are absolutely earlygame

[true talon]

they are not

[chrome lantern]

?

[dawn jackal]

the bloodmoon set in particular fucks up melee progression in a large way

[chrome lantern]

What do you think midgame is

[restive storm]

I think moons was just kinda detrimental to PvP too, hybrid armor and 1 waying from atlatl to nally is so boring

[brisk hill]

Ironman scape dictates every mega rare must be replaced by a slightly less rare not as strong item that’s the same

Idk how you fellas don’t see that yet!

[chrome lantern]

Blood moon items shouldn't have any str bonus tbh it should just lean into the set bonus more

[true talon]

No it dont.

[vivid ruin]

Bluemoon > ahrims
Bloodmoon > bandos

[tough nacelle]

This isn’t just Ironman

This is horizontal progression

Which is the best part of RuneScape

It’s just getting harder and harder to do

[brisk hill]

Ok I didn’t think about that but I still find it strange & clutterng

[true talon]

Plenty of mains dont got billions to spend on mega's and despite the shift in power the megas still remain absolute kings in price (besides shadow) but it has its own problems like viable content.

The only update i will call ironman catering is Scar ess and chromium ingot crafting.

Everything else has benefited everyone in someway regardless if they are a main or iron

Infact Scar ess has lead to several runecrafting money makers for mains......

[chrome lantern]

Chromium ingots had a LONG time to get deleted entirely idk why they chose the worst option to "fix" it

Scar ess was definitely blatant catering that wasn't really relevant for mains until Aether

[true talon]

Really should be yeeted out the game....... it would be better in the long term, because it adds like a 2m+ cost to craft one thus adding more value to the rings.

ingots are alch value now

[chrome lantern]

It's statistically impossible for ingots to ever matter for mains

[brisk hill]

Not true, it gives the economy a baseline doesn’t it

[chrome lantern]

wym

[brisk hill]

W/o alch values rune would be worthless innit

[chrome lantern]

I corrected my statement

[true talon]

yes alch value of an item keeps an item value from reaching 1 gp due to overwhelming supply

[chrome lantern]

I meant ingots

[brisk hill]

Oh ok np

[chrome lantern]

I was just reading what he said as I typed

[true talon]

same reason runes shop value at ali keeps them stable at a floor price

[brisk hill]

Part of it was a question

I’m a caveman pker bro idk

[true talon]

Infact if rev ether didnt have a 150gp alch price, it would prob cost like 10gp considering how many bots there are

[chrome lantern]

Anyway yeah since ingots are 1/3 the rarity of getting a drop that will use 3 ingots

[true talon]

Alch price removed from ether would mean it costs 15k to use a rev wep XD

[chrome lantern]

Anyone that has killed the bosses but hasn't gotten to a vestige yet contributes to the fact that way more ingots are in the game than 3x vestiges

The only way to theoretically have the same number of ingots as 3x vestige would be if everyone did exactly enough kills to get a vestige as their stopping point at the boss and nobody was in the process of getting to that point

[brisk hill]

I read shit like that & ask myself how pvp is so hard to fix when these are the main games issues

Just add a multi ecosystem like multi revs ty

[true talon]

Cant wait to get piled by all the rev bots in the multi space when i login with my 1 defense pure XD

[brisk hill]

Just surround yourself with 20 other pures & you’ll be good

[true talon]

Maybe the fix is just remove overheads from pvp

since people keep using cheat clients

You can smite, you can boost attacks, you can prot item. but your not allowed to overhead protection (its the wilderness after all, should be corrupted land forsaken by gods)

[brisk hill]

Oh lord have mercy my brother

With Bally & hally poking 50’s off prayer

Nty

[true talon]

I mean they could make new pvp armor that reduces damage taken

[blissful topaz]

i dont even pvp and thats hilarious suggestion

[true talon]

prayers are the main issues with bots, but also the main skill

expression

[brisk hill]

Yeah idk if there is a way to counter tick perfect pray flicking bots

[blissful topaz]

when are we getting the left click option bury on ground bones?

[brisk hill]

Without fucking over everyone else

[restive storm]

Pls god last thing we need

[brisk hill]

Because a normal player should be rewarded for getting their overhead right

[vivid ruin]

Imagine tanking 3 people without overheads

[true talon]

Well what if it was pvp armor that reduces damage taken and increases damage dealt to players. similar to how resilence works in world of warcraft.

that means all the bots will need to have pvp armor to do stuff in wilderness

[oblique mesa]

Bots do everything in this game, why do we care so much when its in the wilderness

Jagex is generally pretty good at banning people that client / ahk when you report for it. More so than skilling / bossing bots

[brisk hill]

Yes!

People who don’t engage with wilderness = loudest opinions about what happens there

The entire game is botted not just wildy

[true talon]

oh for sure which is why i am an ironman 🙂 idc how many bots there are.

[brisk hill]

A “high barrier of entry” doesn’t matter to “catclown1422” who’s life starts when someone clicks start

[limber creek]

#game-news message

I thought we didnt replace lost items etc due to bugs.... Timmyscape ffs

[minor whale]

They've replaced lost items due to Jagex loads of times

[true talon]

that was before rot stole billions of GP from people using mod Jed. so they had to put it out there, they can restore stuff.

[minor whale]

They don't do it for people falling for scams or getting hacked, but stuff Jagex is directly responsible for they will

The cannonball loss thing on Sailing release, GIM storage bug, etc

[vivid ruin]

Where my lost tbow

[limber creek]

I lost a max set due to server instability. Are they reinstating that?

[hard axle]

no, they have due to bugs

and always have been

an armadyl chestplate was deleted during tob release due to dawnbringer protecting over it

they replaced it

[brisk hill]

RoT is reformed

Thanks

[tacit wharf]

sure

[hard axle]

You don't reform, you only get better at hiding it.

[chrome lantern]

Unless by "reformed" you mean that you have formed again

[brisk hill]

Bias from the community will only hurt our reformist goals to be dampened!

[hard axle]

[tacit wharf]

jbomb still there

[brisk hill]

[chrome lantern]

I have zero clue what that emote is supposed to convey

[limber creek]

Then its not for you.

[true talon]

your reform video was offensive and racist and as discrimitory as the rest of you.

But idc about that, it was funny

[limber creek]

i watched the reform video. It was funny.

[ember grove]

I think it'd be really funny if RoT scripted the end of another DMM and jagex got embarassed

which is my only real opinion on RoT besides thinking it's hilarious that it still exists after Mod Jed

[true talon]

The jmod who live banned them all and deleted their clan chat was based

[small anvil]

I think teal is joking about rot's pr campaign, don't know if they're actually a psrt of them

[vivid ruin]

He isnt lol

[chrome lantern]

I mean teal was super glazing RoT a few days ago

Posted like 10 videos of RoT multi fights

[true talon]

Rot needs multi to be reviewed so they can remain relevent, since venezulea has been liberated.

they cant fight themselves

[ember grove]

I've said it before but the celebration over the Venezuelans taking the Rev caves that one time was fucking hilarious

kinda miss that period when OSRS drama was Mod Mat K simping for Emily and Mobile not existing

[true talon]

They had Cartel operations going on in there

[tacit wharf]

rather not have jaja make a comeback

[brisk hill]

If you look at my message history you’d swiftly find that’s not true

[ember grove]

I mean the rev caves were very specifically added for Mod Jed to funnel gold to RoT since they knew about skull mechanics and the larger playerbase didn't

so yeah it was a cartel lol

[chrome lantern]

Oh maybe it wasn't you

Someone did

mb if wrong

Yep mb

This guy

[brisk hill]

Rot existed before Jed too!

[brisk hill]

Appreciate it

[chrome lantern]

Yeah ngl this chat kinda blurred together and the only person I'd seen around here much before the last few days was squintzz

[small anvil]

Translation: all you pvpers look alike

[brisk hill]

Yeah I’ve lurked this discord for a few years. The PvP cord is where most PvP discussion happened

[brisk hill]

And they say we are racist!

Wow!

[small anvil]

It's game activity-ist

[brisk hill]

But since this is the only avenue to say what the heck Jagex, here we are

[small anvil]

Just like 365 is ironist

[true talon]

Most people playing runescape are racist, they just arent irl racist. but if your disliking ironmen, normies and uims. your bein racist.

Discriminting agaisnt a player based on their helm is racism

[small anvil]

Irons aren't a race

[brisk hill]

This is where I go back to just parroting my PvP points

[tacit wharf]

more classist

[small anvil]

Ty for attending my ted talk

[brisk hill]

Bring back multi revs!

[true talon]

its still discimination based on differences

doesnt matter if its a class, race, type ect

[small anvil]

Hating a group isn't being racist inherently lol

Race is an inherent trait people have no control over

Irons do have control over how they play

Hating people for how they conduct themselves can be justified

[chrome lantern]

Yeah I don't think it's too much of a stretch to call it stereotyping/discrimination but definitely not racism

[dawn jackal]

iron hate mostly irritates me

[tacit wharf]

at the base of all sterotypes is a reason its a steroytype

[small anvil]

I find the iron hate mostly funny because most people say it half joking at worst

It's fun when helmies join in

[dawn jackal]

its a large % of the playerbase and an option for people feeling burnt out with the main game experience

jagex simply has to make updates that are directed towards that game mode

[small anvil]

Theres an iron that loves saying "ban irons"

[chrome lantern]

I think it's worth mentioning that while a lot of "hate" is joking it can be kinda destructive in some ways

[small anvil]

I do think some of the frustration with irons is justified

[chrome lantern]

Like I don't think hate for green helms is productive when the explicit purpose of the game mode is to play with friends in a setting where your account/hiscores don't matter and you remove existing restrictions

[small anvil]

Jagex obviously values them and balances with them in mind

[chrome lantern]

Even if some people do "cheat"

[brisk hill]

Tbh if you de iron

Go green helm & make bank

[true talon]

there is a lot of hate for dif color helms in the ironman community XD

[small anvil]

So like the frustration can start off real

[true talon]

maybe more than normies hating irons

[small anvil]

But like I don't actually hate anyone for the game mode they play

Even if sometimes it does feel like they're the main audience jagex is catering towards, sometimes at the expense of normal players

[true talon]

sailing proved 30% of the active player base is irons of some type

[small anvil]

It's more of a frustration towards jagex than people enjoying what they enjoy

[tacit wharf]

ones ones i dislike are UIM that think they should have poh storage

[dawn jackal]

my opinion is that the "at the expense of normal players" part is often overstated

[small anvil]

Also loud ones like tass kinda spoil things

[true talon]

Mains never lose anything from an update catered to irons if you can call it catering.

[small anvil]

A bunch of (imo) shitty game design takes come from irons

[true talon]

because most updates they add are progression steps which still incorporate old content

[small anvil]

And people associate that with the helmet

[dawn jackal]

i think moons is a pretty much strictly negative update for mains

[true talon]

its not

it was one of the best pvp gear updates added to date

[small anvil]

Moons nuked the value of ftorso

[dawn jackal]

i tihnk you'll find pvp'ers do not agree with this

[brisk hill]

Bingo!

[dawn jackal]

but really thats a balance issue more than an iron issue to me

the moons gear is just too good for how accessible it is and makes a lot of gear progression obsolete

[small anvil]

Iron design decisions tempt them in the direction of worse balance for easier progression is my central thesis

[true talon]

name one?

[small anvil]

And there's a pretty noticable iron contingent that seems to just want everything made easier (not that mains don't too)

[true talon]

nez helm is as good as blood moon helm an its free, torso is free which is same as blood moon.

[dawn jackal]

the point is you juts go to the GE and pick up your blood moon

instead of getting your torso

[true talon]

so what, torso is shit and should have been nerfed or replaced long ago

[small anvil]

And I think devs need to resist the easy gratification of popular but long term unhealthy design choices

[dawn jackal]

and then it makes the gear above the blood moon set less valuable as well

[true talon]

torso being +4 str is vastly over powered and hurts end game items power

[dawn jackal]

because you have a very cheap alternative that does 90% of the work

[chrome lantern]

Even on irons the content is simultaneously too awful for where it comes from (0 skill ceiling, 70% of your time not interacting with anything) and also too powerful for where it comes from

[small anvil]

Etube you're not the target audience tbf

[dawn jackal]

i don't think the goal of having a more modern barrows was misguided

[small anvil]

It's the 1200-1800 total irons

Which is a huge chunk of the player base

[dawn jackal]

just the balance on the rewards is off

[true talon]

I dont think moons gear is op at all

[small anvil]

(also similar leveled mains ofc)

[true talon]

youd just have mystic instead

[small anvil]

Full bm set is crazy good

For where it comes from

Atlatl is super strong

For midgame

[true talon]

Thats like saying zulrah shouldnt drop blow pipe

[dawn jackal]

it probably shouldnt

[thick beacon]

its efficent to skip moons on iron because its not worth the time

[small anvil]

If you do it right

Cg

[true talon]

You can just go to do tds and get synpase, then go right to yama for almost torva lvl melee gear

[thick beacon]

idk how ud even use moons early unless u wanted to avoid bowfa. awkward to use on slayer to which is main grind even if u skip bowfa

[small anvil]

Moons is the opt out of cg route

[dawn jackal]

and its efficient to train woodcutting by doing 1.5t redwoods and banking 80% of logs

doesn't mean most people do things efficiently

[true talon]

If anything i think end game melee gear is to weak

more so that early game melee gear is to strong

[small anvil]

Like the moons td yama doom pipeline was made to give people an alternate way through midgame without locking to cg

[thick beacon]

yama/doom uniques actually have bis/insane items

[brisk hill]

Great news guys

[small anvil]

And give people a more graduated progression path that you feel you're making progress on

[brisk hill]

PvP channel is still being discussed so for now we still here

Pog!

[small anvil]

Rather than being a cg great filter for irons

Jagex probably saw a ton of people quit irons at CG

And that's bad for business

[true talon]

if you cant handle CG grind on iron then youd never make it afterwards

[small anvil]

These players won't play the efficient route

[thick beacon]

if u look at game from a broad scope cg is a very fast grind

[small anvil]

Ya but like jagex is trying to juice player retention

And cg is the great filter

First great filter

[true talon]

Im sure Yowa would love to return to CG over getting his 6th ancestral legs/dihns bulwark at chambers

[small anvil]

I assume raids is probably a second

But that's really late into an average irons life

Like years in for average players

[true talon]

Yama's not a very fast grind either

Or doom

[small anvil]

And jagex has gotten a bunch of revenue from that player by then

[true talon]

and unlike the other grinds, CG doesnt require prep of food/pots/ammo/runes

[thick beacon]

ye I agree its good buisness and people interact with the content

[true talon]

you just go in naked and leave with loot

[chrome lantern]

It was for me :)

[thick beacon]

I dont even think bowfa route is that essential these days with eye and some of the new tools

bowfa just good progression tool megarares though are insanely bis

[brisk hill]

Yea Ironman scape dictates every mega rare will be replaced by something not as rare & not as strong, but the same

Gz beast

[true talon]

not true lol

[thick beacon]

I think eye was good but just a slight nerf on it would be good

[brisk hill]

Okiedokie

But the fact that you have a blowpipe before you get a blowpipe

Kinda sorta maybe

[true talon]

what you mean?

[brisk hill]

The rosewood pipe or w/e

I haven’t looked into it sure it’s different blah blah

[true talon]

that shit is ass to get on an ironman

[brisk hill]

But it’s the same thing lol

That’s just 1 example

[true talon]

it needs 92 woodcutting, high fletching and fishing for the beak + 87 sailing lol

[brisk hill]

How many bows have been introduced since t bow?

All progressively easier to get

Like it’s not hard to figure out fella

At least, that’s how I see it

[vivid ruin]

Hand cannon wen

[brisk hill]

Surprised we don’t have a ballista for irons before they get a ballista

But it’ll probably come soon

[true talon]

they added a sunlight hunter crossbow and atlatla and then the bowfa

sunlight is not a viable wep for irons, because bolts are locked behind 91 hunter

[brisk hill]

I mean sunlight Hunter c bow isn’t what my example is about

But ye I guess you are right about the hunter req?

[true talon]

progression went from msb - rcb - blowpipe - tbow to msb-rcb-blowpipe-bowfa-tbow

you can get atlatla instead of a blowpipe/bowfa i guess

[brisk hill]

Progression is cool

[brisk hill]

But it doesn’t mean this isn’t true l0l

[thick beacon]

bowfa=tbow is one of the biggest caps ever

idk who started that propoganda but its not even close to true

[brisk hill]

Crazy propaganda

Doesn’t tbow roll mage def

[thick beacon]

ye but legit u use it everywhere

if there is a niche it doesint feel like it

[small anvil]

Bowfa is the middle ground weapon like ayak sra

[thick beacon]

like not even shadow is reccomended to use in all 3 raids/inferno etc but tbow is

[small anvil]

But like sra sucks and ayak is busted

Bowfa is good and the infinite ammo makes it super default for irons to use

[round lintel]

question, I bought mems on my accts but my main and Iron are in the same launcher, why did my main have one price and my iron was more expensive?

[small anvil]

BP is the real sub mega range weap tho

[brisk hill]

They grandfather old prices for older accs

Maybe that’s why?

[thick beacon]

tbow was like 30% better dps for me on muspah and thats just one example

[round lintel]

I thought this was for people always paying for mem, this is like the first time in ages I do

[brisk hill]

My membership on my med is $3 cheaper becuase I started paying for it years ago @round lintel idk if the same or if that’s why only thing I can think of

[tacit wharf]

grandfather rates are locked in when you dont break the pay cycle for mroe than a month

[round lintel]

I normally dont pay irl for mem but this time i did and i was surprised my iron which is the original launcher had a higher price than my main who was imported there

[tacit wharf]

bonds dont break the cycle

[brisk hill]

Bank error in your favor; collect $200!

[tacit wharf]

since yr still paying

[round lintel]

so If I understand this, as long as I dont lose membership by any means for more than a month I have this discounted rate?

[round lintel]

even if im buying bonds off GE

[tacit wharf]

correct

do believe its a month grace period

cuz be 14 days

could*

[brisk hill]

Add PvP section to this discord

Bring multi revs like ecosystem back

Add tick delay to teleports under 30 wild

Ask for PvP feedback from more than just streamers

Thanks!

[obsidian venture]

[blissful topaz]

Also dont release content only for streamers to make money off

[brisk hill]

OOH ™️

[restive storm]

Remove pj timer pls, free the Timmy’s

Reminder someone tried to save this guy but they weren’t allowed

[brisk hill]

https://tenor.com/view/bonds-airship-assault-workfrank-roblox-gif-14342780775675594056

[ember grove]

oh yeah they go way back

it's more "lmao jagex hasn't stamped them out despite them literally causing a legal incident"

[true talon]

this guy was an idiot. darwin award worthy.

[icy relic]

I still do my barrage tasks in rags and 100 sacks at a time

Where is the sense of self preservation

[limber creek]

Total timmy annihilation

[chrome lantern]

If you're in singles nobody should be able to "save" you

[tacit wharf]

shouldnt be able to just freeze, step under, and log out either

[limber creek]

explosion seeds.

[restive storm]

Should be able to to encourage the noobies to group up and make friends

[chrome lantern]

Not in singles

It's singles

[restive storm]

I’ll spite my own gp income to fight for the Timmy’s

They’re not fighting back it’s just unfair

[limber creek]

Not your fault he woke up and chose victim lol.

[chrome lantern]

I don't think it's controversial to say that single-target PvP areas are where people should be able to go when they're playing by themselves with the expectation that only one person could attack them

[limber creek]

fix multi first.
Revs revs revs

[restive storm]

But bro this man’s probably quit

[chrome lantern]

What is that guy doing with earth bolt in his pouch

Oh

[restive storm]

One less no vote to pvp ig

[chrome lantern]

Nvm

[limber creek]

with all the babyscape changes we have.
He deserved it.

[chrome lantern]

Was he doing Vorkath on a PvP world or something

[limber creek]

He tried to loot an item outside ferox and skulled is my guess.

[restive storm]

… cmon bro

[chrome lantern]

Yeah I don't think that should be somthing that's encouraged

[floral blaze]

Whoa more heckin content creator exclusive events!!!!!

[restive storm]

Their fault it was singles; I won the fair 1v1

Shoulda freeze logged

[restive storm]

So sick of it lmao

[true talon]

that be sick, plant the seed to knock a player out from under you XD

[bronze kernel]

What the fuck was he doing? I'm assuming KBD?

[brisk hill]

I agree. Encourage others to remember that if it’s too good to be true, it likely is!

I followed a man with gilded d boots one time into multi

[tacit wharf]

runes + slayer staff suggest vork

[brisk hill]

[restive storm]

Vorkath

[kind surge]

wtf are they doing vork in pvp worlds for

0 blighted supplies

[meager flame]

someone was just a giga idiot

it happens sometimes

theres no explanation

like

the people i've pked in the past like that where there is no explanation i just assume are either someone somehow on their account that doesn't know how to play the game

or they're like so high they dont even know what they're doing

sometimes its funny though like i almost did something similar in like

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[meager flame]

i guess probably 2007 i straight teleported into the wild in absolute max

[restive storm]

Omg yall I gave ya the whole inventory

[meager flame]

but i also had supplies bc i was actually going to fight pits and just misclicked somehow lol

so i didnt die or anything but like

idk shit happens

[oblique mesa]

Remember when max cape teleports got rebound and people were teleporting to black chins with their cash stacks?

[restive storm]

The introduction of ice plat tabs was a great few days

[meager flame]

some guy actually did try to pk me he was trying to i think pk at green dragons lol

and i come flying past with like a d chain etc

he was never killing me but he probably thought a miracle just happened

[restive storm]

Yeah that wasn’t a PvP world incase that needed to be said

[meager flame]

im assuming some guy was like

at ferox and somehow exited and died

[tacit wharf]

some people forget they can remove pvp worlds from their hop list

[meager flame]

maybe even got lured at the door but lol i hope they weren't that crazy

[tacit wharf]

also ran into a pker at lever the other day doing clues in the 2350 world, said he got a few that day, of people forgetting items

[meager flame]

ya i said it the other day but the day i killed someone in edge for a green mask before jagex ruined the wild the first time

[tacit wharf]

guy was chill, cut the web for me cuz i forgot my sword

[meager flame]

was the day it was on sight forever on anyone no matter what they were wearing

people just bring stuff with them and do dumb stuff 24/7

[tacit wharf]

its like they dont check what they keep and plan their setup around that

[meager flame]

they also dont read or look at the screen regularly

like i remember also selling a mask one time weirdly enough

and the guy just typed the gp he wanted to give me into chat

[tacit wharf]

5 items are all in a row, so when i get a wildy step, those get banked and i grab out my wildy sword and a few extra food

[meager flame]

but then put his whole cash stack in the trade

and accepted

[chrome lantern]

The guy got skulltricked at Ferox btw if that weren't clear yeah

[meager flame]

i think he misclicked x and hit all

and just didnt read

[tacit wharf]

to be skulltricked in this day and age is just....

[chrome lantern]

Yeah I do that with 4 items for my wildy setup

Clue setup*

[meager flame]

idk why anyone takes anything to the wild

like you can do the wizard trio or whatever while doing a clue with just a vw or any other weapon really

lmao people just run out risking it because they can't take 5 seconds to bank

[tacit wharf]

it really isnt much in gear

[chrome lantern]

I do bank, I just only bank the things that are actually risk

Like idc if I lose a glory and black d'hide yeah

[meager flame]

ya that stuff honestly doesn't really matter if you lose it

i just bring nothing because idk probably habit from forever ago

i've seen too many dumb things to join them lol

[tacit wharf]

cba regearing

[restive storm]

Yeah idk, avg player just had no clue

[tacit wharf]

and thats my hard/elite/master set up

[meager flame]

tbh they need it if it happens to them in 2026

lmao they clearly didn't play this game when you couldn't trust anything because everyone was scamming somehow

its a good life lesson

[tacit wharf]

use to lure, so well aware

[meager flame]

it actually was kind of good for everyone back then lol

im sure they all grew up immune to the dumb scams that go on irl

like those people that got got with doubling money on twitter

[bronze kernel]

Why the hell would you do Vork on a PvP World?

[meager flame]

clearly they didn't play rs

[bronze kernel]

If you're doing Vork on PvP worlds because you want to save money using Blighted stuff

I think you have bigger issues to resolve first

[tacit wharf]

most of the time, cuz they forget they're on a pvp world

[bronze kernel]

How do you forget?

[tacit wharf]

its pretty ez

dont read, warnings off

leave pvp worlds on their hop list

[oblique mesa]

Be stoned or drunk is step 1

[tacit wharf]

^ another one

people are not smart

just remember, there is typically a reason something has a warning label on it

[brisk hill]

Wasn’t PvP world lol

They banked Ferrox

Saw shit outside

Went outside to click up shit

& skulled

Good fight !

[kind surge]

deserved

some lessons have to be learned the hard way

[carmine junco]

Main behavior smh

[brisk hill]

Poggies

[floral blaze]

Deadman Factions probably received more devtime than the wildy has in the past couple years

[ember token]

is that just dmm all stars season 3

[floral blaze]

It looks like something separate

[limber creek]

#1420260286929047654 check it out

We're being actively discussed again

[ember token]

has there been any info about deadman factions besides the mention in the 25 years video

[brisk hill]

Idk dude but I can’t wait to watch lol

[true talon]

25 years........ dang im old

[limber creek]

We won't get into specifics but its being discussed.

[brisk hill]

You may be more petty than my girl & I’m thankful for that

😂

[limber creek]

call me richard because i am petty.

its just a funny response to things.

This discord could use some laughs.

[chrome lantern]

You should put this in #1022203933600514138

[jagged marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[vivid ruin]

Can we give a round of applause to etube for cracking a joke?

[limber creek]

It's being discussed.

Hey curious about this new runescape video.
How many people care about rs3 removing treasure hunter like even the least little bit?

[carmine junco]

I'm assuming most of the people who voted one way or the other do.

[limber creek]

It's not being discussed.

[minor whale]

Yeah like 120k people voted to remove it so probably around that many

[carmine junco]

I think the pmods of this server have seen enough pvp discussion to last them a lifetime. Hopefully they keep discussing the need for a pvp channel forever.

[limber creek]

They got one regardless crazy how that happens.

Want to discuss it?

[carmine junco]

Not really. Though you apparently do badly enough to mingle with irons.

[limber creek]

Had to check out what kinda changes we were fussing for today.

Also you're an iron thats been obsessed with this channel for days. Sooooo?

[carmine junco]

Just interested in seeing how long you'll keep up the energy

[limber creek]

I'm here for discussion not harassment.

Keep that to yourself.

[brisk hill]

They said that to me when they banned me

[brisk hill]

Well said! That person been aggro all day today for some reason :v

[limber creek]

It's a weird day when the pvpers are the civil ones.

[scarlet dawn]

We will get eoc 2.0 before getting a pvp channel

[floral blaze]

Streamerironscape

[silk thicket]

Since no preventative action on ragging can we get bans or at least info on what evidence is needed for a ban 👍

Even telling us how to report it would be great

[minor whale]

I'd assume you'd report it under harassment if it's repeatedly done

That's what people used to be told to report for pvp world ragging

[brisk hill]

unsure who attempted to try and get me removed from this discord

but you will have to try harder!

[vivid ruin]

Did you get a message from modmail

[brisk hill]

i did!

[scarlet dawn]

Haha I am curious

[brisk hill]

help wildy

give us pvp chan

[floral blaze]

Deadman Factions sounds really cool! Sucks that only streamers get to play it

[restive storm]

Crazy business given some of the heinous stuff in here

[narrow folio]

No one necessarily reported you. And you shouldn't try to call them out or antagonize. Just follow the #rules 🙂

[limber creek]

Does it mention in the modmail what rule you broke?