5 more mins russian time
#game-update
charred halo
ionic grotto
I'm being serious now
dim pilot
crazy how every discord community is equally cringe
glad dust
xp is boosted@@@@@@
ionic grotto
The 45 min update timer is going live in 3 minutes to be exact trusttttt
brazen tundra
I'm being serious now
glad dust
im getting xp rates
tardy rover
They didn't mention crew members salvage rate in the post, just ctrl-f'd, was that an aiyiza reddit comment?
lusty kelp
crazy how every discord community is equally cringe
we all play the same game wdym
noble crow
Old rates are actually back
tardy rover
no down time
ionic grotto
<:sus:1310255365597823087>
It's actually 3 mins now I'm adjusting for timeflation
In the past 5 hours only 2 real minutes have passed
ionic grotto
We're stuck in a severe state of time dilation
meager flame
ya its hotfixed
fading condor
Stop fkn trolling me
charred halo
ok they actually made twitter post
white wolf
brazen tundra
rip 5mins
rough frigate
big kudos for the quick response and turnaround on feedback
tardy rover
Literally just got 97 exp from my salvage
ionic grotto
Oh wow
dim pilot
we all play the same game wdym
did i say game or discord? learn to read
ionic grotto
rip 5mins
Nah that means you were right bro
Cuz 5 mins ago you said 5 mins
Holyyyy
He knew
winter hearth
Literally just got 97 exp from my salvage
this is with Horizon's Lure right?
fading condor
Stop trolling
tardy rover
this is with Horizon's Lure right?
Yes! Haha, sorry to scare you
winter hearth
all good!
main pecan
Now can we get a game fix for agility
brazen tundra
trolling?
ionic grotto
this is with Horizon's Lure right?
No it's bugged it needs to be higher
winter hearth
Just double-checking
brazen tundra
i said 5 min bozo
rotund light
main pecan
Make agility great
fading condor
I will never forgive u
noble crow
Omg i am so happy right now. It's so awesome they did this before the weekend
subtle merlin
yea, still not excited to play again atm. crew kept their 5t and the massive xp neft to them...
noble crow
We sail so hard this weekend
placid shuttle
They just updated the blog a few mins ago
subtle merlin
guess im going to play something else
brazen tundra
yea, still not excited to play again atm. crew kept their 5t and the massive xp ...
cry is free
amber lance
ionic grotto
sit
lusty kelp
did i say game or discord? learn to read
iamgine being in this disc if you dont play the game...
tardy rover
I see four shipwrecks active too let's goooooooooo
winter hearth
I see four shipwrecks active too let's goooooooooo
that's a good sign!
finite bane
guess im going to play something else
Granted you probably already were if you are only using 5t salvaging lol
umbral wind
guess im going to play something else
bye felicia
wintry jetty
Finally!!!
ionic grotto
that's a good sign!
W update and only 5 mins late too, impressive
dim pilot
iamgine being in this disc if you dont play the game...
really roleplaying a clown huh
tardy rover
@winter hearth do you know if they touched the crewmates salvage rates? Or are they still 5t?
hasty shard
goblin is the team aware of the graphical bug when shipwrecks become active a tick after becoming inactive
subtle merlin
one of the few good afk methodsand they mess it up.
winter hearth
<@958735975754903594> do you know if they touched the crewmates salvage rates? O...
still 5t, unchanged
pseudo stream
It's up!
ionic grotto
<@958735975754903594> do you know if they touched the crewmates salvage rates? O...
Buddy we've told you a thousand times crews staying 5t
tardy rover
still 5t, unchanged
Thanks~!
ionic grotto
This guy lol
brazen tundra
is it 5t uk or 5t us?
tardy rover
Buddy we've told you a thousand times crews staying 5t
Was not mentioned in the blog post
ionic grotto
Was not mentioned in the blog post
Literally was
noble crow
"All of these tests have been without interacting with the Crystal Extractor" is huge
winter hearth
is it 5t uk or 5t us?
we're using central european standard ticks
brazen tundra
we're using central european standard ticks
goblin gets it
ionic grotto
goblin gets it
You just know he's been here for like at least an hour and learned the joke
amber quail
We told you 5 minutes guys.
brazen tundra
right 
ionic grotto
Yep we were right
brazen tundra
everyone called us trolls
noble crow
I am so happy that dude can let his grandma out of that cage now
lunar zinc
5 min believers
brazen tundra
look at them now
ionic grotto
alpine viper
It was like 5 mins yeh
broken kiln
xp just changed
tender peak
petition to change the runescape tick system to swatch internet time so each tick lasts 86.4 seconds
brazen tundra
xp just changed
you are late
ionic grotto
by like 5 mins
brazen tundra
was 5 min ago
ionic grotto
broken kiln
nah, in 5 mins
brazen tundra
<:kekw:997907574034792498>
ionic grotto
And it only took 5 minutes, ez
winter hearth
wait wow it changed live no downtime
mostly just number changes, except for the number of active shipwrecks - ez hotfix just a lot of testing
brazen tundra
goblin is there a diffrence between 5mins uk and 5mins us?
ionic grotto
mostly just number changes, except for the number of active shipwrecks - ez hotf...
Ahh so that's why it took an extra 5 minutes, makes sense
prime stag
is there pet chance from sorting now too or nah
ionic grotto
goblin is there a diffrence between 5mins uk and 5mins us?
the exchange rate is like 1.2:1 I think
brazen tundra
is there pet chance from sorting now too or nah
never was there
noble crow
Goblin, i hope you lads are going to the pub with the team and really enjoy the start of the weekend ahaha
winter hearth
goblin is there a diffrence between 5mins uk and 5mins us?
depends on temporal exchange rates
winter hearth
Goblin, i hope you lads are going to the pub with the team and really enjoy the ...
our Xmas party was yesterday, would wager nobody's going to be drinking tonight
ionic grotto
our Xmas party was yesterday, would wager nobody's going to be drinking tonight
There's definitely one JMod who's hardcore enough to go b2b
lunar zinc
our Xmas party was yesterday, would wager nobody's going to be drinking tonight
that explains the delay in the update
winter hearth
There's definitely one JMod who's hardcore enough to go b2b
yeah I've been at it since Wednesday
modern crypt
Jagex is making it sound like you can improve your crewmates' stats, though I thought that was not possible and they only were able to have every crewmate at 4 deckhandiness because they were using dev tools, correct?
lunar zinc
they said early friday , its 1pm in uk now
bold portal
Hmmm, about that.
wicked venture
Any chance lost supply crates radius was changed back to preadjustment sizeš¤£
prime stag
never was there
looks like it was mentioned, but only in discussion atm :>
#game-update message
ionic grotto
If you believe otherwise well cry is free š¤·āāļø
brazen tundra
cry is very much free
bold portal
cry is very much free
Werenāt you doing this to all of @muted knoll posts the other day mocking people being upset?
fringe rivet
lmao, courier runs are in the trash
bold portal
ionic grotto
One time dude at Nex went on a rant in cc about someone on his team and the guy responded in cc with just "no cry please"
brazen tundra
Werenāt you doing this to all of <@166668771656728576> posts the other day mocki...
i could care less if it was reverted
fringe rivet
rune hooks > rosewood hulls
noble crow
Hear me out, loot crates from courier tasks that give ship building supplies
fringe rivet
why would I ever do courier runs now?
winter hearth
lmao, courier runs are in the trash
Courier runs can still slam 170k+ tbf, but we do agree that they need to be more appealing
silk mortar
that's extractor included?
winter hearth
is just a more long-term discussion to be had when everything isn't on fire
fringe rivet
Courier runs can still slam 170k+ tbf, but we do agree that they need to be more...
under ideal conditions, with the extractor, and with dragon-tier equipment
lunar zinc
Courier runs can still slam 170k+ tbf, but we do agree that they need to be more...
how?
ionic grotto
The way the board generates tasks could be looked at.
What kind of tasks you get etc
sudden bane
any chance helman ship stat can be looked at? 4 helmanship only giving like a 5 tick boost is so ass
fringe rivet
and that's doing a-b-a, which is a bit.... odd let's be real
lunar zinc
ha
fringe rivet
I was doing courier runs yesterday and was getting 118k or so an hour
winter hearth
The way the board generates tasks could be looked at.
this is a big part of it yeah, it's solid if you have a lucky hour of ABA but could do with reducing the variance a little and probably making them more appealing in a broad sense
austere mulch
is just a more long-term discussion to be had when everything isn't on fire
Picturing the SpongeBob meme at Jagex HQ after Wednesdays update
placid shuttle
is just a more long-term discussion to be had when everything isn't on fire
Is there any eta since the blog was updated but no countdown is to be seen?
winter hearth
Lack of anything like a cannon barrel like Salvaging has is also a big detractor from people really wanting to invest time into Port Tasks etc.
ember grove
is just a more long-term discussion to be had when everything isn't on fire
Maybe the office party getting rowdy enough for arson was a bad idea lads
brazen tundra
Is there any eta since the blog was updated but no countdown is to be seen?
got hotfixed
winter hearth
Is there any eta since the blog was updated but no countdown is to be seen?
blog was sent after hotfixes deployed, changes are already live
solar quiver
goblin can you please confirm on-task buff rates are correct and live? (wyrms/frosts)
insane amount of people with some crazy logs 12x dry for sheets on task
fringe rivet
I can click once every 3 minutes for 100k an hour, or I can break my brain and bank doing courier runs for close to the same amount of exp and less rewards
placid shuttle
Oh it didn't require a reboot I see. I didn't notice my XP changed š
wispy bough
surprised this kinda update can be done with a hotfix. Neat
ionic grotto
Lack of anything like a cannon barrel like Salvaging has is also a big detractor...
Speaking of dragon cannon barrel, that is an insane grind currently with the rates, you pretty much have to sit at merchant for most of 99 to try to get 2. Could we get a combat option say on frost dragons drop table? Currently they only have one pre-roll drop in the metal sheet whereas vampyre krakens have 5 pre-roll drops/uniques.
noble crow
Tbh i think that's why loot crates from port tasks would work really well. A Sailing option to gather some dragon nails/ sheets instead of Frost Dragons
ember grove
I can click once every 3 minutes for 100k an hour, or I can break my brain and b...
Itās like 50k more xp, but the less rewards part is a real thing to look at
tender peak
surprised this kinda update can be done with a hotfix. Neat
sailing was released as a hotfix
sacred skiff
Such a cheeky line from the update lmao
winter hearth
surprised this kinda update can be done with a hotfix. Neat
they're all number c hanges bar the active shipwrecks one, just wanted to spend a couple of hours testing before deploying
fringe rivet
Itās like 50k more xp, but the less rewards part is a real thing to look at
50k more under ideal rng
quaint oar
Seeing an 87xp drop from a crew member feels a little shitty ngl but I can understand changing it to 40% over 70
spring trout
sorting salvaging already feeling better. THANKYOU
ember grove
50k more under ideal rng
True, the rng is also a problem
fringe rivet
it's so much more effort for hardly anymore meaningful xp
I'd be better off doing subpar Trials
charred halo
well i definitely called it, 85k/h for rune hooks and salvaging + sorting yourself. literally didnt change from the nerf
ember grove
I'd be better off doing subpar Trials
You probably are lol
wispy bough
they're all number c hanges bar the active shipwrecks one, just wanted to spend ...
Figured the tick rate going from 5 to 4 would have needed a restart
fringe rivet
all that aside
winter hearth
Figured the tick rate going from 5 to 4 would have needed a restart
single line change!
fringe rivet
I know this is a lot of work
spring trout
well i definitely called it, 85k/h for rune hooks and salvaging + sorting yourse...
have you reset tracker? not even been an hour since fix ha
subtle merlin
had to check one thing lol, char model still messed up...
fringe rivet
so I got a question for you goblin
wispy bough
might be a single line change but this game built on spaghetti so you never know
winter hearth
so I got a question for you goblin
I'm clocking off in 3 minutes so it better be good
fringe rivet
are each individual Port Task being completed being recorded? Or just the number that have been completed?
noble crow
If you are getting the same rates right now as 2 hours ago it's a skill issue š
charred halo
have you reset tracker? not even been an hour since fix ha
read the blog, its literally stated what they're expecting rates to be
ionic grotto
Speaking of dragon cannon barrel, that is an insane grind currently with the rat...
. @winter hearth what about this one chief
quaint oar
Goblin can you confirm that the tick change is only for the player and not the crew members as well?
winter hearth
are each individual Port Task being completed being recorded? Or just the number...
am not overly familiar with the analytics on those BTS unfortunately
tender peak
I think you should coldfix everything from now on. Purely to sow chaos
winter hearth
Goblin can you confirm that the tick change is only for the player and not the c...
yes
main kestrel
Goblin can you confirm that the tick change is only for the player and not the c...
player on 4 crew on 5
spring trout
read the blog, its literally stated what they're expecting rates to be
yeah 85k + 14k from extractor puts you at 100k
sudden bane
trawling would feel 20x better if crewmates could boost more than like 5 ticks at a time ;-;
solar quiver
goblin can you please confirm on-task buff rates are correct and live? (wyrms/f...
would love a comment on thisa if poss goblin
winter hearth
. <@958735975754903594> what about this one chief
Something for us to chat through in future, said similar in a reply on Reddit
restive siren
@winter hearth this math aint really mathing, thats not a 2.5% increase, its like 3.7%
ember grove
trawling would feel 20x better if crewmates could boost more than like 5 ticks a...
True this oneās a big unmentioned maybe-bug I think
fringe rivet
am not overly familiar with the analytics on those BTS unfortunately
Hmm. Well I ask cuz a future Point Shop could be added for Port Task completitions, and how our tasks are being recorded said points could be retroactively applied.
winter hearth
would love a comment on thisa if poss goblin
Unable to confirm anything either which way at the moment, team haven't noticed anything untoward but will ask for a double-check next week
lunar zinc
<@958735975754903594> this math aint really mathing, thats not a 2.5% increase, ...
shhhhhh
winter hearth
<@958735975754903594> this math aint really mathing, thats not a 2.5% increase, ...
ah was a mistype, should read 16,451
ember grove
Hmm. Well I ask cuz a future Point Shop could be added for Port Task completitio...
Donāt retroactively apply that sort of thing lol
tender peak
goblin what should I have for lunch. Ham sandwich or turkey sandwich
noble crow
Enjoy clocking off and a well deserved weekend chief
tender peak
I'm not hungry yet but in 2 hours? you never know
ionic grotto
Something for us to chat through in future, said similar in a reply on Reddit
Just seems frost dragon unique table is a bit underwhelming for an 87 Sailing unlock whereas vampyre krakens which become available at 78 have a much more appealing drop table albeit they are more tedious to kill so I see the inherent balance in that, I still don't think giving frosts a 1/5k dragon cannon barrel would be that big of a deal
fringe rivet
Donāt retroactively apply that sort of thing lol
Why not? People should get rewarded for doing Port Tasks.
And charter task xp was retroactively applied
right now there is very little reason to do the "bread and butter" of sailing right now
noble crow
@ionic grotto All the sheets and nails though?
winter hearth
Why not? People should get rewarded for doing Port Tasks.
And charter task xp w...
charting XP is a one-time thing that you objectively missed out on if you hadn't done it before the change, improving Port Tasks still means everybody's on a level field post-change
silk mortar
Why not? People should get rewarded for doing Port Tasks.
And charter task xp w...
Yer a salvager now matey
charred halo
i have 1 question, any chance we can get a rough estimate on when a new island comes out that like a 92+ island ?
ember grove
Why not? People should get rewarded for doing Port Tasks.
And charter task xp w...
You get higher xp/hr than salvage and less frantic clicks than trials
Thatās the niche and reason to do it rn
It could be made better through less rng but itās fine
ionic grotto
<@302251830438526977> All the sheets and nails though?
Vampyre krakens have all that + bottled storm, large dragon metal sheets in addition to the normal type, and the inky paint
thorny kite
Kind of odd that of the three different ārates of salvagingā 2 of them are with dragon hooks and 1 is with rune hooks
winter hearth
i have 1 question, any chance we can get a rough estimate on when a new island c...
Not here! Anything like that would be a much more 'proper' announcement than a random discord message
fringe rivet
You get higher xp/hr than salvage and less frantic clicks than trials
Thatās th...
except the xp is barely better than salvage
thorn gate
@winter hearth are there any plans to allow rearranging facilities like POH?
winter hearth
Kind of odd that of the three different ārates of salvagingā 2 of them are with ...
diff folks testing
noble crow
@ionic grotto Not nearly the same amount per hour
winter hearth
<@958735975754903594> are there any plans to allow rearranging facilities like ...
would be nice, exploring 'cheap' options because mirroring POH is a technical nightmare
fringe rivet
it's actually cheaper to do trials to, cuz skiffs are half the cost
charred halo
Not here! Anything like that would be a much more 'proper' announcement than a r...
ok no worries, was worth a ask since atm its just frost dragon island :p thankyou
ionic grotto
<@302251830438526977> Not nearly the same amount per hour
I know but I'm just saying that for being a higher sailing unlock, frost dragons have a noticeably worse unique/pre-roll table
tender peak
you don't need a sloop to do port tasks
uncut fern
Can you just change the xp drop to like 2k per action for 5 mins as a weekend gift
fringe rivet
charting XP is a one-time thing that you objectively missed out on if you hadn't...
I see. Well that's disappointing to hear.
brazen tundra
Can you just change the xp drop to like 2k per action for 5 mins as a weekend gi...
yea in 5 uk minutes
ionic grotto
All I'm saying is give frosts like a 1/5k dragon cannon barrel so you don't HAVE to merchant to basically 99 to get 2 or more.
fringe rivet
I'll continue salvaging and trials cuz I at least have a chance of paint there.
noble crow
All i want is my red Topaz in my gem bag
main kestrel
All I'm saying is give frosts like a 1/5k dragon cannon barrel so you don't HAVE...
but the other way around for nails is ok
ember grove
All I'm saying is give frosts like a 1/5k dragon cannon barrel so you don't HAVE...
Theyāre planning to look at cannon rates later I think
I could have sworn it was in the blog yesterday
ionic grotto
but the other way around for nails is ok
If they need to balance the nails they can balance the nails or whatever idk lol
ionic grotto
Theyāre planning to look at cannon rates later I think
I could have sworn it wa...
Yeah for merchant salvage itself, I'm just saying to give it another source entirely and I believe there's room on the frost dragon table for like one super rare "chase" unique drop.
sacred skiff
1/5k actually isn't so bad at frosties
thorn gate
Frost dragons could for sure have cannon and/or hook
ionic grotto
All i want is my red Topaz in my gem bag
Gem bag in general should be able to hold all gems from opal to zenyte idk why not
sacred skiff
since you'd kill like 6k-ish for rose skiff + 1 sloop
thorn gate
Yes add opal thru topaz to gem bag
ionic grotto
Frost dragons could for sure have cannon and/or hook
Big agree btw
restive siren
dont think anyone needs even more incentive to go to frost dragons. if anything just buff the droprate on krakens a bit
noble crow
Problem with a 1/5k barrel at frosties is that frosties are by far the best option for nails and sheets. So people kill thousands of those. It'd result in so many barrels passively entering the game.
ionic grotto
dont think anyone needs even more incentive to go to frost dragons. if anything ...
Both things can be true
Krakens can be buffed and frosts can get dragon cannon barrel
ionic grotto
Problem with a 1/5k barrel at frosties is that frosties are by far the best opti...
Then pull sheets/nails back a bit and put them in other places
restive siren
orrrr we dont buff the thing that everyone and their grandma is doing already 24/7
muted knoll
who pung
sudden bane
aquanites are 1/16 rannar seeds drops thats goated frfr
muted knoll
we all won
baited so hard u replied 3 days later
thorn gate
Salvage needs better nail rate. Sheets need to be on more drop tables
ionic grotto
baited so hard u replied 3 days later
speak for urself LMAOOO
muted knoll
i am a salvage enjoyer i was just chatting shit passing work time
ionic grotto
You scrolled up just to find that just to respond to that so who actually got baited
š
subtle merlin
its like a train wreck, had to see. at least for pirate salvaging its better to drop then to sort because the speed of the player on the hook...
muted knoll
You scrolled up just to find that just to respond to that so who actually got ba...
theres a convenient button called ānotificationsā that lets u see who pings u lol
muted knoll
ur gonna afk those ticks salvaging anyways man
fringe rivet
except for port tasks
fringe rivet
yea, in 6 months
fringe rivet
surreeeely
muted knoll
while im here tho cap salvaging at 20k an hour
fringe rivet
I can click once every 3 minutes for 100k an hour
muted knoll
tbf also @ionic grotto u are at least normal and can have a conversation i respect u for that
that jimbo guy just flamed the whole time
wouldnt hold a conversation
thorn gate
Boy i sure am glad i did 100 tempoross kc for a useless npc
brazen tundra
that jimbo guy just flamed the whole time
ionic grotto
tbf also <@302251830438526977> u are at least normal and can have a conversation...
ty for shoutout
ionic grotto
https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-hes-right-you-know-correct-true-right-gif-...
check nex disc I wrote to you lol
ember grove
Boy i sure am glad i did 100 tempoross kc for a useless npc
Neat sailor lady>surfer bro, sheās the bis helmsperson on vibes alone
thorn gate
Helms person is useless
thorn gate
No where other than fish trawling you even use a driver
ember grove
He sure is lol
ionic grotto
Neat sailor lady>surfer bro, sheās the bis helmsperson on vibes alone
I like Adventurer Ada cuz she's the only one who doesn't bitch when I ask her to bank my cargo
She's always so enthusiastic about everything that I feel bad to swap her out
sacred skiff
Jolly Jim is 100% planning to mutiny ngl
ionic grotto
Nah Jittery Jim has BiS lore
He literally defected from Khazard's Army and slaughtered some of the others as he left LMAOO
Bro joined ur crew as a runaway
ember grove
Jolly Jim absolutely killed his entire previous crew
ionic grotto
Jolly Jim absolutely killed his entire previous crew
True it's possible
ancient nebula
hear me out - adventurer ada outfit transmogs
ionic grotto
But Jittery Jim is just straight up like "yea I killed my guys and ran away lmao lemme hop on ur boat and man ur cannon tho"
ember grove
Thankfully my man jenkins is too dead to die in an accident
ionic grotto
Jenkins stays a cornerstone of the crew for sure
sacred skiff
Zarah's completely unearned confidence is funny though
silent shuttle
But Jittery Jim is just straight up like "yea I killed my guys and ran away lmao...
I can fix him-i mean what
ionic grotto
hear me out - adventurer ada outfit transmogs
How about a quest about her tbh
And then Olga is in the corner thinking she can hide the fact that she's a werewolf
brazen tundra
we need a sailing outfit that give 2.5% xp boost and combine it with horizon lure to get 5% xp boost 
sharp cave
Crew seems incredibly half baked and disappointing
Besides a short convo on recruitment there's really nothing
ionic grotto
Besides a short convo on recruitment there's really nothing
actually ok I can agree with that
brazen tundra
ionic grotto
But they have cool backstories in that convo that can always be built upon later in some quest for Sailing or whatever
sharp cave
Would have been nice to at least have a mini quest or something for each
brazen tundra
when will i get my next nex drop @ionic grotto
ionic grotto
when will i get my next nex drop <@302251830438526977>
considering I'm 1k dry atm maybe 2k kc?
brazen tundra
nooooo
subtle merlin
o well sailing is another skill like agility where i will just have to slog thru till frost dragons and never touch again...
brazen tundra
486
brazen tundra
you dont know what spot im at though
ionic grotto
Oh I know
brazen tundra
ionic grotto
You'll see me roll up in my Champion's cape on my maxed rosewood/dragon boat
I just can't get into that world rn cuz its full lmao
gimme 5 mins
brazen tundra
fuck
ionic grotto
š
austere mulch
Would have been nice to at least have a mini quest or something for each
Thatās because nobody has found the Easter egg yet.
When you have 5 crew slots filled in the correct order and sail over a specific tile in the desert at the 06:47UTC, they get replaced by the 5 pieces of exodia and you unlock the last stand perk from gridmaster for 2 minutes
brazen tundra
Thatās because nobody has found the Easter egg yet.
When you have 5 crew slots ...
this has to be incorrect its not on a 5min interval
ionic grotto
^
austere mulch
6+4+7 =17, which is a prime number and happens to be Exodiaās favorite
brazen tundra
brazen tundra
fake source
we all know its trust me bro
na
@ionic grotto i just got dragon cannon barrel lol
ionic grotto
<@302251830438526977> i just got dragon cannon barrel lol
bruh
brazen tundra
you still 5 uk minutes out?
ionic grotto
nah im here
that shit should broadcast in chat tbh
hold on I'll back out and come out of the pile
brazen tundra
add me in game i need to see green dot
subtle merlin
yea for pirate salvage its better to drop if im mathing correct because of the hook speed. pirate is 76 xp to hook, 31 to sort.
ionic grotto
add me in game i need to see green dot
rsn?? if its qkick I added
brazen tundra
whats yours?
ionic grotto
^
brazen tundra
ill sac my xp to find you im on the south spot
flint willow
Thank you Gagek for the xp back thank you
brazen tundra
i just saw you
fringe rivet
o well sailing is another skill like agility where i will just have to slog thru...
more like salvage until then lmao
ionic grotto
ye im in the pile now
fringe rivet
water agility but with a treadmill that makes you phat
flint willow
Where do i have to salvage to get a Dragon cannon barrel ?
subtle merlin
more like salvage until then lmao
na its going to be a slog
ionic grotto
Where do i have to salvage to get a Dragon cannon barrel ?
Merchant salvage SW corner of map
ancient nebula
only thing that looks weird with the update is cabinboy jenkins gives more xp than jobless jim, despite both having 4 deckhandiness now
fringe rivet
na its going to be a slog
im 95 sailing, most of that exp came from salvage lmao
subtle merlin
im 95 sailing, most of that exp came from salvage lmao
72, most of it from charting... cant chart anything else atm
late furnace
Lo falter and fury abandoned!
In the misty mornings swell
Falador absent of canon
As all through geilinor is well.
Sail now, through gritted teeth n shanty,
Sail now, with salvage stacked a plenty
Sail now, with jagex heart so fickle.
Sail now, stored canons in mickle.
ionic grotto
<@302251830438526977> the spot further south is better
we are as far south as we can go no??
do you mean west or something lol
brazen tundra
yea west but down some still
ionic grotto
go there show me
fringe rivet
72, most of it from charting... cant chart anything else atm
1 more level and you'll be at merc ships
subtle merlin
1 more level and you'll be at merc ships
yea excited for that, the xp is over double what im doing currently
but i was getting so much better xp cannoning while having the crew salvage b4...
fringe rivet
they seriously gave to much exp for the lazy and extreme methods of training, and everything inbetween got shafted
brazen tundra
go there show me
where did you go you jetted by me
subtle merlin
they seriously gave to much exp for the lazy and extreme methods of training, an...
i like the extreme afk on as it was a way to quickly be done with the minigame, i mean skill
ionic grotto
Ez ty
fringe rivet
I swear, runescape players are the least likely to play the game compared to those who don't play it
ionic grotto
I'm almost 95 no cannon btw
brazen tundra
im half way to 94
ionic grotto
I swear, runescape players are the least likely to play the game compared to tho...
You said this b4 and I already debunked this when you said it last time
fringe rivet
I thought you confirmed it?
ionic grotto
fringe rivet
if salvage was tradable, how much you think they'd be worth?
thorny kite
At least a dollar
ionic grotto
if salvage was tradable, how much you think they'd be worth?
Well it would certainly make Sailing a buyable skill but thats crazy lmao
fringe rivet
Br I'm not actually suggesting it chill out
ionic grotto
I'm aware
brazen tundra
brazen tundra
i shouldve saved my salvage 
ionic grotto
you had enough shit takes for one day
brazen tundra
atleast all the shit takes will be gone in 5 uk minutes
ionic grotto
Nah that part I agree with
Goblin even agreed with me about looking at how the board generates tasks would be a good way to improve them
So trust me they're looking into it
Trusttttt
5 mins n shit
fringe rivet
Like, I want points retroactively applied so we don't feel like we're wasting our time doing courier runs now
brazen tundra
ionic grotto
Like, I want points retroactively applied so we don't feel like we're wasting ou...
just bank the crates
like with salvage
brazen tundra
fringe rivet
the last time I did that I got a message telling me the osrs cia was going to terminate me for running off with them
(you actually do get this message if you run off with cargo lmao)
thorny kite
Gonna get you with them tariffs
ionic grotto
(you actually do get this message if you run off with cargo lmao)
we need to figure out a crate smuggle so you can bankstand with one at GE
Same way ppl used to do with the crate during that dorgeshuun quest
Idk if that's still possible
fringe rivet
like, I don't understand this logic
ionic grotto
Someone call up Rendi he'll figure it out tbh
fringe rivet
you should get the monkey laps recorded even if you haven't completed mm2
bold portal
I swear, runescape players are the least likely to play the game compared to tho...
Who cares about how others play. Just play the way you like
ionic grotto
The irony being it wouldn't surprise me if he's an iron and plays singleplayer anyways
bold portal
fringe rivet
be quiet jobless jimbo
brazen tundra
bold portal
š
bold portal
Iron btw
ionic grotto
one of the reasonable ones
brazen tundra
ionic grotto
guys like virtu make irons look bad tho
bold portal
one of the reasonable ones
fringe rivet
if you don't like the skill, make some suggestions to make it fun that go beyond "more xp"
ionic grotto
bro some irons are genuinely so insufferable when they're at nex in my cc they'll cry in cc like "erm this guy in my 5 man didn't 5 tick one attack cycle at Nex can we get a ban on him????????"
bold portal
if you don't like the skill, make some suggestions to make it fun that go beyond...
Arenāt you asking courier runs to basically be āmore xpā
ionic grotto
The irony being he wants to play the game less too he just doesn't realize it yet
bold portal
Heās in denial
fringe rivet
I actually enjoyed charting
brazen tundra
ionic grotto
I actually like my cash stack having a use
you could do green gim
ionic grotto
gim shop man mode
fringe rivet
you could do green gim
ehhhhh
bold portal
Donāt act like you know about iron when you say shit like that tho
bold portal
Group irons š¤¢
ionic grotto
Group irons š¤¢
nah unranked gims*
blue and red helm are legit
green helm is icky tho
fringe rivet
boarding random people's boats to see their reactions is fun
ionic grotto
if u play green helm ur a living breathing meme im sorry
bold portal
Green helm definitely is
ionic grotto
boarding random people's boats to see their reactions is fun
do you know the alt sailing tech
fringe rivet
do you know the alt sailing tech
isn't that where new sailors can chart using someone else's boat?
ionic grotto
yea but the charting isnt the important bit its the fact you get the same xp drop for trimming sail as they do lmao
ionic grotto
I took my alt on my mains maxed rosewood boat and was getting 125xp drops trimming at level 4
Every trim was level up
It was so nice
fringe rivet
yea that's gotta be a bug lmao
fringe rivet
totally
ionic grotto
enhanced player experience
fringe rivet
you know
ember grove
I took my alt on my mains maxed rosewood boat and was getting 125xp drops trimmi...
this probably shouldn't be allowed but they're not gonna ban for it so godspeed lmao
bold portal
Just logged in to try salvaging now and boy what a difference
fringe rivet
it's like degen runescape but sandbox
ionic grotto
Buddy I play OSRS do you think I have time to play another game???????
bold portal
Ty jagex
ionic grotto
My other game is my fucking alt rofl
meager flame
this probably shouldn't be allowed but they're not gonna ban for it so godspeed ...
its not even really that big of a deal its definitely nice but basically
ionic grotto
the one I boosted Sailing
bold portal
Been playing silksong
meager flame
you just end up charting to ~53 assuming you go 1 shot all of the trials
then you can go afk salvage
fringe rivet
give it a shot if you like seeing numbers go up and finding ways to make numbers go up even faster
through totally dumb ways
ionic grotto
give it a shot if you like seeing numbers go up and finding ways to make numbers...
I have way to many things on my OSRS to-do list
cloud walrus
did they forget to give jobless jim deckhandiness 4? i swear that was in the changes yesterday
ionic grotto
Like the fact I'm going on 4 years dry since Nex release for Nexling
brazen tundra
when are they gonna add soup roll on crystal extractor ?
fringe rivet
now Imma go shove a literal whale into a keg to turn into booze for insane cash
ionic grotto
That's been a consistent problem in my life that I lose sleep over
Jk it's not that serious but it is mildly annoying
ionic grotto
when are they gonna add soup roll on crystal extractor ?
LMAOOOO
brazen tundra
ionic grotto
ppl would no lie start autoclicking that to 200m xp for pet
brazen tundra
i cant stand this game why are the nuking my pet rolls
bold portal
did they forget to give jobless jim deckhandiness 4? i swear that was in the cha...
Ah, they were gonna buff him?
ionic grotto
idk if I can even say that but fuck it
bold portal
Damnnn
fringe rivet
salvage should have a 1/100,000 chance for a lamp that just gives you 99 sailing
brazen tundra
bold portal
How fast is deck handiness 4 compared to doing the hook yourself?
ionic grotto
salvage should have a 1/100,000 chance for a lamp that just gives you 99 sailing
Everyone should be reimbursed a 1m Sailing xp lamp
Just added to ur bank/invy
bold portal
And not jobless
Makes sense
brazen tundra
im thinking more on the line of a 13m xp lamp with MTX wws
bold portal
How fast is that compared to self salvage?
obsidian venture
@cloud walrus
ionic grotto
Bro Jimbo
bold portal
?
obsidian venture
Self savage is just better
fringe rivet
ionic grotto
If you hired Jobless Jim, Jittery Jim, and Jolly Jim you'd have a whole crew of Jims behind you Jimbo
Jimbo and the Jims
bold portal
Fuck yes
obsidian venture
Self salvage till you need to sort basically
bold portal
I donāt mind salvaging myself, but damn
obsidian venture
Not as afk if you want xp
fringe rivet
and that's without extractor
bold portal
Good xp, I canāt wait till my week off from work
fringe rivet
so self salvage being closer to 124k
since the rates Goblin is basing courier runs is based on extractor
well, I digress
bold portal
Good update all in all
Just did the tortugan quest
Eying the new stab weapon
Looks pretty dope
bold portal
Damn, opulent looks nice
fringe rivet
yea I was thinking maybe fremm would be better gp, but apparently not according to the wiki
bold portal
Working my way towards large
fringe rivet
maybe if enough people do this all the stuff will devalue enough to make fremm better for gp
bold portal
Nice to get upgraded repair kits ngl
fringe rivet
if only they had a use lol
bold portal
Toā¦repair?
ionic grotto
if only they had a use lol
he's an iron bro for him they have a use
bold portal
No idea how much health higher end ships have
fringe rivet
the only thing that's going to realistically hurt your boat are sharks and krakens
ionic grotto
the only thing that's going to realistically hurt your boat are sharks and krake...
no fucking shit holy
fringe rivet
and those aren't really worth killing to begin with
ionic grotto
and those aren't really worth killing to begin with
???
Bottled storm is cracked bro
fringe rivet
frost dragons yo
ionic grotto
...
bold portal
Ah, forgot, bunch of regular players here
bold portal
I just have a different mindset lol
ionic grotto
in all honesty vampyre krakens are insane gp guy in my clan has made over 200m killing them and he doesn't even have a boat to reach them LMAOOOO
He begs others in clan to ride with them on their boat
bold portal
Lmao
ionic grotto
And has made over 200m doing that
Bro gets literally and figuratively carried to vampyre krakens
Kills them
makes mad gp
It's kinda wild tbh
fringe rivet
I don't have the magic to meaningfully kill them
ionic grotto
Well that's just a skill issue so gg
bold portal
What spells you need?
ionic grotto
What spells you need?
Think they weak to Earth spells?
So Harm staff Anc is BiS
I believe
fringe rivet
throw a rock at the squid
bold portal
How do you not have lol
thorn gate
Repair kits = alchs
fringe rivet
only 74 magic
bold portal
Ah, gotcha
fringe rivet
never used twinflame
ionic grotto
I don't know shitter metas
fringe rivet
lemme look it up
ionic grotto
I haven't used non-BiS in like 6 years ngl
So yea
But I think thats how that works
fringe rivet
all I know is dragon wand gives some nice mage damage
ionic grotto
all I know is dragon wand gives some nice mage damage
yea for frosts lmao
fringe rivet
while most magic sticks just give better accuracy
ionic grotto
ur not using dragonbane at krakens tho???
bold portal
all I know is dragon wand gives some nice mage damage
For dragons
ionic grotto
do u not know what twinflame staff does
fringe rivet
that applies to everything
brazen tundra
virtu what are your thoughts of how i can complete the inferno
bold portal
I guess, i donāt have twin flame. So probably that demonbane staff from tormented
ionic grotto
He's the pro surely
fringe rivet
o, that's nice
ionic grotto
I guess, i donāt have twin flame. So probably that demonbane staff from tormente...
Twinflame should be better cuz it double shoots anything up to wave spells
bold portal
Wand*
bold portal
Twinflame should be better cuz it double shoots anything up to wave spells
Yeah, but I gotta kill royal giants
ionic grotto
Which you should
bold portal
Havenāt got around yet
ionic grotto
I'm assuming you don't have Rigour
bold portal
Nah
ionic grotto
Unless you do in which case you can skip
Ok so yea you should lol
Nice thing about titans is u can get a main to carry u
fringe rivet
Hmm, it's 5 mil
bold portal
Main is way lower than me
fringe rivet
tbh I'm a little strapped for cash
bold portal
I just do it solo
fringe rivet
spent all my money on a sail
ionic grotto
I'm pet away from green log u wanna duo some titans lmk
brazen tundra
@fringe rivet can you help me with inferno 
fringe rivet
yea sure just hop onto gridmaster
fringe rivet
im not that jobless
ionic grotto
you dont have inferno cloak ?
it's cape btw not cloak
cloak is like ardy cloak 4
aka bis fashion(s)cape
bold portal
Infernal*
brazen tundra
it's cape btw not cloak
incorrect all my friends on osrs discord call it a cloak
ionic grotto
incorrect all my friends on osrs discord call it a cloak
ur friends suffer from psychosis
brazen tundra
š¤
fringe rivet
imma call it a blankie from now on
ionic grotto
imma call it a blankie from now on
LMAOOO
Wait do they make an infernal cape blankie????
ionic grotto
ionic grotto
and you can eat pizza in bed and won't have to worry about stains cuz the blankie already looks like pizza
ionic grotto
you defeated them all
surreal meadow
lol just a sorry you spent all your points skipping for frost dragon tasks sucks to be you
ty jagex. code your game better ā¤ļø xox
bold palm
@winter hearth is that supposed to say 5x more likely? The previous post said 1/400 -> 1/100 which would not be 5x
winter hearth
<@958735975754903594> is that supposed to say 5x more likely? The previous post ...
It's not, have edited and removed
meager flame
i just wish we could do something to make actually getting those tasks not super painful
surreal meadow
or just stop decimating ironman late game sailing would be nice.
meager flame
i mean im fine with trying to get on task to do stuff but its unheard of for that to be the situation and for it to be one of the lowest weighted tasks on the table
surreal meadow
killed 450 off task and 350 on task and got 2 sheets š
gave up on late game boat upgrades
meager flame
honestly theres a decent chance its not actually worth trying to get on task
i haven't even tried to do the math but that's likely quite a large number of skips at turael to get on the task
and you could probably just manually kill frost dragons faster
surreal meadow
also 87-97 sailing salvge no barrel its so much fun š
meager flame
oh yeah i know i got my first barrel at 15m sailing exp
still trying for the second
meager flame
i feel like this is one of those situations where you should be able to spend slayer points to unlock getting the task at a real rate
or something
because they were probably trying to not mess up normal slayer exp/hr or whatever but like
they basically have weights that say "we don't actually want you to do this"
brazen tundra
i got my barrel at 93 š¤
meager flame
they could also just you know
give the frost dragons a decent rate and stop trying to get it tangled up in slayer calcs
it doesn't really even have to be involved with slayer to begin with
small anvil
wyrm is pretty highly weighted at least tho right
how does on task wyrm compare to frosties
off task frosts*
meager flame
wyrm tasks are a weight of 8
frost dragons are 5
according to wiki
placing frost dragons in the bottom 10 tasks that you're likely to ever see
and wyrms lower middle
small anvil
i mean how does the rate of getting dragon sheets on task
fare against the off task frost dragons
on task wyrm*
meager flame
oh its like 4x more likely on task
small anvil
vs off task frost
meager flame
but you can probably drop more frost dragons an hour than you can turael skip to get the task
small anvil
ya basically i'm thinking if you're skipping for either or, it feels less bad
but if on task wyrm < off task frost
in effective nails+sheets/hr
then its dead in the water
meager flame
i think it would be pretty hard to compete honestly because nails i dont even think get a boosted rate just sheets
small anvil
ya thats what i would think
meager flame
so frost dragons themselves are probably pretty powerful outright
at least in this comparison
i think the numbers themselves are kind of laughable overall its a horrible grind
small anvil
i guess on task frosts has the lack of competition going for it
but with the buffed respawn rate it should be ok
even if its crowded
meager flame
its just weird that they chose a low weight and that it isn't an unlock
it seems prime unlock material to me
so people that actually want to do it get it at a decent rate
and the people worried about exp/hr can just not deal with it
meager flame
tbh i think that is actually kind of impossible
small anvil
making them chase items
meager flame
maybe valuable and a grind for irons but
frost dragons are going to be bot heaven
for mains
sacred skiff
As is tradition lmao
small anvil
yeah frosts are really easy money alt too
they're easier than rune drag
cuz 0 dmg
just keep your anti-fire up
sacred skiff
Botted to shit when they released with dungeoneering too
meager flame
safespots too unfortunately
definitely gonna see the guy just crawl up the chain with his magic gear on and telegrab the drops
somehow online 24/7
sacred skiff
legit player
just dedicated
The safespots really need to go though. A high-level dragon (or at least high req? since they're weenies and weaker than black drags) should have a ranged fire attack like metals
The griefing was already so bad when I finsihed my skiff in the first week, and I'm sure it's not better now, improved respawns or no
tacit wharf
meager flame
i mean its kind of dumb that people can just sit in safespot and try to tag everything repeatedly
if people are gonna compete they should at least be in the room
but yeah idk im assuming most people's shot at a frost dragon task amounts to ~2.5% give or take depending on blocks
sacred skiff
Also task doesn't boost nails rate :(
sacred skiff
Kinda, topaz are a big chunk of it and most people probably aren't banking them
last onyx
Hey 1500 total Hcim looking for a chill clan
fringe rivet
this is assuming full loot
sacred skiff
It is a pleasingly round number
sacred skiff
If you prepped imp boxes before sailing this is the only real use I've found for them lol
banked like 200 topaz but then felt I should save the rest of the imps for black chins
merry flicker
Opulent is so annoying for ironmen because there's so much good loot 
chrome lantern
Nah the topaz are really the only thing worth even considering to bank that isnāt stackable and/or cargoable
Jades are a LOT faster to mine
Other than the gp/plat ofc
Just herb sack, seed box kinda optional to save like 1-2 inv slots if banking topaz
Usually only get 2-3 types of seeds worth keeping
round lintel
90k xp an hr without the need of the extractor Feels nice
Thank you Jagex for saving the skill
chrome lantern
I donāt really think the skill was in danger tbh salvaging is still insanely high xp for what the activity is
fringe rivet
salvaging is about as click intensive as cutting magics, and it rewards more than 3x the exp lol
round lintel
Im not good making my messages sounding ironic
chrome lantern
Ah I see
round lintel
I like the salvaging xp after 87 to be honest redwoods if you pay attention, drop the logs and have the best axe + felling axe and rations is about the same xp an hr
chrome lantern
I usually just use excessive italics and :^) when Iām not being serious or xd or lmao
quaint osprey
Hey 1500 total Hcim looking for a chill clan
search Forever Home in recruitment channels š
round lintel
I usually just use excessive italics and :^) when Iām not being serious or xd or...
yeah should have used xd
even playing 2 accts when i went for pet at redwoods, banking logs and using infernal axe instead i was getting over 60k xp an hr
so merchant salvaging isnt that bad
fringe rivet
I like the salvaging xp after 87 to be honest redwoods if you pay attention, dro...
yea but these rates are with the 2nd best tool and not dropping anything at all
round lintel
ah shi the salvages now show in the loot tab
winged mantle
Now we can see how dry we are for clogs
brazen tundra
yea but these rates are with the 2nd best tool and not dropping anything at all
Can you help me and @ionic grotto with inferno 
fringe rivet
try clicking the monsters
fringe rivet
click food when you are dying
reef laurel
If you prepped imp boxes before sailing this is the only real use I've found for...
thats really smart i hadnt thought of that. was just goingto sunbleak to bank which wasnt bad
if u had greater focus ucould dock at sunbleak with a diff boat and just tp/recover boat and make it even faster
lilac ivy
no doesnt work
chrome lantern
Yeah I would be shocked if it did
paper prism
is the repair boat thing not available yet?
chrome lantern
[[Shipwright Seb]]
ornate wolfBOT
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Shipwright_Seb
paper prism
[[Shipwright Seb]]
tytyty
heavy ledge
It is a pleasingly round number
reef laurel
does jagex handle the wiki pages or do players?
a lot of the wiki pages read as if they were very rushed
with a ton of grammatical issues
heavy ledge
Players do, thereās a wiki discord if you wanna give feedback, but Iām not in it so idk how that works lol
reef laurel
the sailing pages, that is. relative to the older pages.
heavy ledge
Itās a wiki so you can also always make/propose edits to the page yourself
ember token
the wiki is run by players
ember token
a lot of the wiki pages read as if they were very rushed
that's because with big updates there's a lot of new pages and a bunch of people who don't normally contribute making edits
often leads to wrong info or poor grammar being added to pages
narrow folio
I thought the admins were paid by jagex or something?
ember token
the company that runs the wiki receives a bit of funding from Jagex
reef laurel
ahh okay I was just wondering! Ty
ember token
ahh okay I was just wondering! Ty
but yeah if you see something that is poorly worded/bad grammar, feel free to fix it yourself
very easy to do so
or at minimum you can click the "leave feedback" button at the top of the page and just say something like "please fix the grammar on this page"
bronze kernel
[[Shipwright Seb]]
To be honest, they should have it so you don't have to go all the way to the shipyard to do that. As long as it's docked in the same place.
Seems like an entirely unnecessary step to take
ember token
teleport to pandemonium, summon boat, right click junior jim customize boat, right click seb repair boat
that's like 10 seconds and not something you'll be frequently doing
subtle merlin
any 1 know a way to get rid of this avatar glitch? (found out its from a sailing drink)
chrome lantern
Better restart the account
subtle merlin
opps, forgot to laugh. ha
ember grove
Go get a haircut, it should fix it
If it doesnāt, accept your new jawless life forever
ember grove
It worked for me!
analog crow
Has the blast furnace cupernickel softlock been patched?
meager flame
teleport to pandemonium, summon boat, right click junior jim customize boat, rig...
Theyāre right though honestly that whole loop is very unnecessary almost every time people go through it
Itās pretty badly designed where people are just repeatedly taking loading screens to get to the shipyard just so a few places Iām assuming here donāt have a bank for example
And the repair guy is just on the other side of the loading screen for no real reason probably because they didnāt want to add the option or a new npc instead at each location
So itās always silly like teleport to bank take 4 steps to teleport to shipyard again or teleport to dock to repair but take 4 steps to teleport again to get to shipyard first
ionic grotto
Someone call up Rendi he'll figure it out tbh
LMAOOO wait I actually called it???? @fringe rivet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZLqgTeEOP8
Only a few hours after I said "call up Rendi he'll figure it out" he puts up this video. It's astonishing how well I know him š
true talon
any 1 know a way to get rid of this avatar glitch? (found out its from a sailin...
yea i had to get a hair cut
true talon
LMAOOO wait I actually called it???? <@1394147024114417697> https://www.youtube....
Rendi said forget sailing, im creating smuggling.
silent shuttle
if u play green helm ur a living breathing meme im sorry
"Thats just a main account with extra steps"
ionic grotto
"Thats just a `main account` with extra steps"
Correct although not sure why we're circling back to something from over a day ago lol, am I missing some context here?
chrome lantern
I do think people overreact a bit about green helm because the entire point of it is literally, "We don't care about the opinions of others, take us off the hiscores and make us unranked"
And "We acknowledge that we did something that gives an unfair advantage compared to a team of fresh accounts forming a group, take us off the hiscores"
reef laurel
While some green helms might buy their gear, a lot of them are legitimate players or just wanted to join a different group and ended up getting screwed over.
ionic grotto
Yeah but it doesn't make them any less memable but clearly saying that has offended some ppl š
I still will always refer to them as GIM shop man mode.
Simply because it's kinda funny
chrome lantern
I just think it's more harmful to actual players that are doing the gamemode the intended way that anything
Unnecessary stigma against people that just wanted to play with friends
ionic grotto
It's just friendly banter don't overthink it bud
It's like how everyone screams when you lose a game of GotR "thanks irons"
obsidian venture
Every account is memeable in some way so it doesnāt matter really
small anvil
Yeah, you're a silly main, could have bought everything you have with credit card
ember token
was taking a break halfway to 99 when the salvaging changes happened and now that everything's settled again, can't believe i'm getting the same xp rates at mercenary shipwrecks (going for salvor paint) as I was at merchant shipwrecks before the changes
can only guess if I went back to merchant shipwrecks itd probably be upwards of 110k xp an hour now
(all of that being WITHOUT using the extractor)
austere mulch
with rune hooks im solidly at 108k, could prob squeeze out 110-112
ember token
oh yeah for me this is all with rune hooks too
salvaging ends up getting significantly buffed because redditors with 7 jobs and 23 kids couldn't handle the salvaging rates getting toned down to be more reasonable
(though the sorting nerf was definitely an overreaction)
austere mulch
Oh I was for sure getting more xp prior to the first change
chrome lantern
It's 100% about the extractor
austere mulch
With same effort
chrome lantern
They buffed it because extractor down
On that note I don't think they needed to buff Glide either
People feel entitled to XP rates that Jagex in Q/A had said they felt they may have been too generous with
Months in advance
austere mulch
Yeah I mean even using the extractor every min, I got better xp/hr before the update
Obviously not by a lot
austere mulch
But itās a buff overall bc the downside of not using it is a lot smaller
When actively salvaging*
meager flame
i actually dont think its very hard to calculate the exp/hr from where they're sitting
so them acting confused or surprised like
surprises me lol
for glide it makes sense since you know player skill etc
but salvage
it makes no sense at all
you could in theory give like a super accurate estimation based on someone being tick perfect
small anvil
They have designers that aren't great at math I feel lol
And don't just use a spreadsheet
The discord convo where they confirmed the sailing damage modifications was kinda wild
meager flame
that stuff also surprises me but for different reasons
i feel like they just took a really weird design direction entirely on that one
small anvil
Designer saying they can't figure out damage and use the wiki calc and don't know how to adjust for different potential mechanics they want to do
chrome lantern
Earlier in development, the interaction time on the Extractor was longer than it is now and it had to be placed further away from the helm, so we'd balanced it expecting that players would be less willing to pull away from the helm in order to harvest wind motes.
Yeah none of this really applies unless you're in trials
meager flame
getting like a big modifier to put on all sailing combat with a chance to ignore it and so on
it just sounds crazy
why not just make cannons do big numbers and put big hp on npcs
and now you don't have to worry about the regular players dps too much
it seems like some crazy quest to make your sailing level a combat skill
which they say they dont want to do but made sure they did lol
meager flame
The discord convo where they confirmed the sailing damage modifications was kind...
where did this happen btw that sounds interesting
small anvil
Data linked it earlier lemme see if it's a source in the sailing DMG calc page
ember token
(i dont remember talking about sailing dps)
small anvil
Was it loiloi?
Maybe
I thought it was data cuz it was wiki related
Hmm I don't have access to that channel but it's the source in wiki lol
meager flame
Oh is this one of those randomly in some discord channel hidden away things lmao
small anvil
Also the max hit is going to be vulnerable to a round down at so many thresholds
Probably want a multiple of 10
meager flame
I actually have no idea why they did this
small anvil
Anything closest to that will work out best
meager flame
I guess for the secret thematics idk
small anvil
Actually I bet you hit 1 a ton
Cuz there's still the if you hit you roll 0-x and replace 0s with 1 right
meager flame
I assume so
meager flame
does it actually give you the flavor text of why you're supposedly missing in game
if you dont have your chat filtered
ember token
no
meager flame
wtf lol
small anvil
A chart of what the actual DMG penalty is would be fun based on rounding
X9 DMG would suck
meager flame
maybe they're gonna add that message in or something
small anvil
19 for example
meager flame
its just really weird that they did that because of like a thematic reason/probably wanted your cannons to matter more
small anvil
Gets rounded down at all thresholds
meager flame
and then you just kind of mysteriously suck at doing damage on your boat
genuinely confused i hope someone asks them and gets a reply about why not just have cannons do bigger numbers
that seems like less work and more intuitive but maybe theres some kind of reason that hitting hard is bad
chrome lantern
I'm still shocked they didn't do anything to sailing combat
In the last two updates
meager flame
i mean same clearly they think the stuff they were doing is more important but to me it felt like
they were kinda just messing around with stuff for two weeks and reverting a lot of it
chrome lantern
Like even a token buff that they know isn't a long-term solution would be good short-term though
meager flame
i don't really think outside of some bug fixes like being teleported back depending on which dock you last used that its appreciably better than it was
there were a few annoying things like some ways of getting stuck/the logout teleported back to dock thing that were important
but otherwise if they just hadn't done anything it would kinda be the same rn
small anvil
I genuinely don't think that the combat stuff is that important to them yet
They certainly have plans to release more stuff
These are like lesser demons
Or smth
They don't see it as urgent
Compared to XP rates
chrome lantern
It is kinda funny that it was basically
> Guys we might've made AFK stuff a but too generous
> Ok here's full skill release
> We're nerfing the AFK, it's too strong
> People dislike nerfs, who could've ever seen that coming!!!
> End up in the same place we started after another hotfix
small anvil
They nerfed only hard afk
Basically
And extractor is not as super busted
Not that it's not still good
(I don't bother turning it on for post 99)
chrome lantern
The funny part is that the extractor did exactly what they expected it to, bridge the gap between trials and other stuff at high levels
But they didn't like that
small anvil
It was like too mandatory
chrome lantern
It really wasn't
small anvil
33% buff to salvage XP rate or so was a lot
chrome lantern
It fit in well on the spectrum of activity options at salvaging imo
But also it was like
The majority of the xp I was getting at Krakens by far xd
And now I just get 0
small anvil
Lol
meager flame
tbh i think the rates they had were fine in general
if they just hadn't touched anything its hard to say much was really wrong
you basically doubled the exp each time you decided to actually pay more attention lol
the only thing where they looked kinda silly was just like
small anvil
Rates are too high across the board imo but people who were maxed expect to be maxed immediately