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round lintel
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Using splinters to charge moons armour too

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Using splinters to make sunfire armour to have same str bonuses as obsidian...

meager flame
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if by most you mean 10% sure

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the actually gave us that number already its somewhere on reddit iirc

round lintel
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Mains have no reason to get 10+kc
Irons do need around 25kc to bless it (which represent most of people going over 10kc)
You are looking at 10% overall including mains, irons and pet hunters but in the scheme of splinter farm most of it comes from bots doing wave 1

meager flame
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yeah so roughly 10% of the total splinters entering the game specifically from colo are from wave 1

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"We have also looked into "Wave 1 farmers", and they definitely contribute more sunfire splinters into the economy than we'd like, but in the grand scheme of things they are around 10%~ of the amount of splinters coming from Colosseum in total, so we don't think they are a big reason why splinters were dropping before doom. And that's ignoring the fact that some actual players are doing this to obtain some quick splinters for prayer training etc."

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thats the quote

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thats not 10% total either thats 10% from colo

round lintel
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It is the problem they just dont care enough to accept it

meager flame
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to put it into perspective doom was generating around 50% of the splinters that colo was

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so it was 5 times more effective than deleting wave 1

round lintel
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in 3k total delves 27 lvl 8 I only received 13k splinters

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I claimed every time i had them

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for my iron

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which i was 20% to bless my quiver

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In 8 Colos ive done exchanging my quiver for splinters it gave me 50k splinters

meager flame
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yeah but we're not talking about the most effective way for an individual to get splinters we're talking about the real numbers coming into the game based on what players are actually doing

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it doesn't matter if colo is significantly faster if there are 500 people doing doom for every 1 guy at colo

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etc

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thats how doom managed to create so many

round lintel
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I wasnt saying faster to get, I was saying before doom splinters were 150gp at most, after doom it dropped to 100-120

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but in the end most people were dying because loot is shit

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so you risk it

meager flame
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yeah im just saying that if you delete wave 1

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the same thing will happen as when they deleted doom

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you'll find out we simply dont use enough splinters for them to hold value

round lintel
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Its different because every world you hop on you see 2-5 bots farming it

meager flame
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and yet they managed to only account for 10% of the splinters at colo

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so 90% of what is coming out of colo will still be there

round lintel
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haha

winged mantle
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survey was interesting...

vernal valve
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I still cannot believe they made glaive use splinters considering how incomprehensibly slowly it burns through them

round lintel
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Thats what I said, Ralos being 6 tick with how small it is doesnt make sense

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It could be 5 ticks and be used instead of a cbow

winged mantle
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if ralos had a chance for double hit (as passive) and was 4 tic i'd use it

round lintel
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5 Tick double hit could be usable

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but 6 tick is really slow

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buuuuuut if there is a relic in Grid master to make range weapons faster, id be using it for sure

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i imagine a 3 tick ralos double hitting with min hit of 5 hahaha

shut wadi
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Jagex can we get the new blog in a voice note format please 🤣

winter hearth
shut wadi
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I'll put it into chatgpt later it's fine 🤣

shut wadi
frail bough
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++ for all the other default settings as well

winter hearth
still sundial
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looking through the list of default settings changed, I don't see the setting for dropping consumables (food, potions) on death being changed for some reason. in the years of being in this discord I've witnessed many new players distraught by losing their lobsters or whatever because of dying and not picking them up

frail bough
still sundial
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resource piles is something for advanced players to enable, imo

winter hearth
restive siren
# winter hearth will make a note!

Imo the deposit worn items into STASH option should be on by default. A ton of players would never even know this exists without following the blogposts or being told by others

winter hearth
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I'd argue it's more confusing is you barely know what a STASH unit is and suddenly your gear vanishes from your body

restive siren
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sure but i was more arguing that even for existing players

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i was absolutely bewildered that was something you had to turn on tbh

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and ive read similar confusion in here

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ofc might not be representative of the whole playerbase

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opt in for new players sounds good

still sundial
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Add a right-click 'Bury' option to dropped bones to alleviate some friction for early-game Prayer. We know that experienced players may never bury a bone, but the extra step of picking it up and then burying it is needless friction for beginners.
like this a lot!

round lintel
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Im rank 7k total clues, rank 2k elite clues, and honestly I thought i was doing something weird when my stash wasnt taking my items. I came to find out here that you needed it to be turned on.

winged mantle
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will the changes impact current players settings or just new accounts?

mint stratus
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A suggestion for Jagex (idk if this is the right spot) since they brought up NPE.

From my experience, alot of friction for NP is not knowing what to do after leaving tutorial island. And there are new players who want to explore freely but need a bit of a guiding hand on where stuff is

An additional toggleable option at tutorial island (likely near the ironman tutor)

"Assisted mode" where the game highlights npcs and gives suggestions on what to do in addition to the activity advisor and the npc that gives tasks. (Tailored to players who typically play theme park mmos). It would highlight recommended quests as well as highlighting lowest skill stat, as well as several recommendations on how to train it.

Partial assistance mode:
For players who want to have the freedom to explore. While training any skill, it may highlight a recommended quest or npc that may give more info on training it.

Classic experience: no handholding.

winged mantle
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(please don't mess with my settings PepeHands )

knotty herald
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just kick 'em into the wind

mint stratus
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But overall I like the stuff Im seeing here. I do wonder if Jagex staff watches some of the wow streamers playing osrs and watch their (skewed) experience

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Since they do get backseated (lol)

still sundial
winter hearth
mint stratus
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I forgive you guys for the rune pouch mistake

winter hearth
winter hearth
winged mantle
mint stratus
round lintel
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@winter hearth is there any chance you guys can revisit the Tonalztic? Possibly making it 5 ticks? more uses outside the spec?

winged mantle
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I bet the community could cook up some ideas

round lintel
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Anything I can suggest has already been done here and reddit

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thats why I ask directly

winged mantle
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only3-4 posts it looks

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30+ days old

round lintel
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I guess since he stopped typing is a no

quick bough
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Absolutely love the quest journal improvements suggested. I'm trying to play my first ironman unguided, and while it's great to play the game in a more immersive way, there are certainly struggles with some quests or skills. Great to see the skill XP nudges for certain quests, or more detailed journals for the older ones to help us puzzle things out ourselves! 🙂

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Just comparing a quest journal from a relatively new one (Temple of the Eye) with something like Troll Stronghold and it's night and day. If we could get those early game quests up to the same level it'd really help

weary stag
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Does this account for bots lol

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solemn dirge
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Regarding the tutorial island changes can I raise a couple of thoughts I had.

Firstly, the comment "we don't want you scaring all the new players" got me thinking.

Could it peak newer players' interest in the game if they saw more higher level players early on. What if they saw someone wearing some cool armour or weapons and thought "ooo what's that,I want one of those!" Considering the quest cape has a teleport next to a fairy ring as it's reward which becomes instantly useless once a fairy ring is placed in POH. Would there be a consideration to allow players to teleport next to a bank on tutorial island using the quest cape. This could bring a bit of reward back to players after the long grind that is the quest cape and also allow new players to get some insights into higher level players.

My other observation was that personally I think the rewards from quests shouldn't be "opt-in" at worst there should be a "click here to reveal rewards (possible spoilers) button. Especially since lots and lots of games do this already.

mortal iris
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Can we make some improvements to the UI? Biggest complaint from new players I make play is the UI is terrible. Especially on the official client. These should all be optional but maybe enabled by default.
-scaleable login screen make the twin torches and world login screen scaleable to the client size.

  • give us better scaleable options like “xBR” this one should be default. All scaling options especially on the official client are two blurry at higher resolutions and scaling.
  • make default UI scale option for monitor resolution. “1440p default 125-150%”
  • make an official dark mode of the UI and clean up some of the UI like the chat buttons on non transparent chat mode.
modern crypt
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I read the new update about changing some things for new players and though the blog constantly reassures me not to panic, my flight-or-flight response is kicking in due experiencing the half-dozen times they changed the tutorial in the 2000s lol.

My feedback: don't remove the friends list tutorial on tutorial island. All it needs is a quick mention and show new players where it is. I've played games where I had to rely on the players to help me navigate menus/find where to add friends and that was needlessly complicated, or worse, I gave up trying to add a friend lol. If you want to move it elsewhere on tutorial island, away from Brother Brace, that's fine. But I don't think relegating this to the players is wise.

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Also, changing the resource gathering timer to make it shorter while fishing or mining will be misleading. Currently, the game already tells you to wait in the dialogue box. If new players can't understand that then frankly, the game may be doing us a favor by weeding them out lmao. Imagine how confused new players would be to find that fishing is slower in the real game after having it faster on tutorial island with no explanation.

I understand that having special settings on to help new players is a fine idea, but the new players need to understand that these settings will not persist forever in the game.

drifting quiver
bronze kernel
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Also, speaking of Holy Grail, I say we remove the one statue on Karamja and just have the NPC say the statues are scattered across Kandarin and Asgarnia.

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Having players search the entire map made sense when the quest was released but now it's like 10 times the size

desert hemlock
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The mobile version is lagging like never before for some reason.

Saw a Reddit post about people having similar issues as well, pls fix jagecc.

torpid vine
bronze kernel
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And speaking of Legends Quest, I think the only real hiccup with it is the Book of Binding

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Everything else is pretty straightforward on where to look

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Fremmenik Trials during the death match trial should have the NPC repeat and reiterate you only need to beat him 3 times if you talk to them again.

wise cloud
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Add a right-click 'Bury' option to dropped bones to alleviate some friction for early-game Prayer. We know that experienced players may never bury a bone, but the extra step of picking it up and then burying it is needless friction for beginners.

Im probably the only nay sayer here, but I hope this doesn't get included. There's so much charm to needing to pick up the loot to find out what to do with it. (is this wearable? Goblin armor! Oh I can only use it? Not equip? Why's that?) having the default be a bury option is weird because there's so many quests /interactions with bones later on that require having bones in inventory to do something with. Varrock dog, demon slayer, etc. And further prayer training even also relies on having bones picked up, like for varlamore prayer method. I think it's an important friction to keep in the game.

late crown
weary copper
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has there been an update to the right click menu? i'm struggling to left click doors/bank booths and enemies because it prioritises dropped items and NPC's over the thing in front

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left clicking bank booths if hovered over the bank npc behind it, will instead talk to the npc

hard axle
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Turn it on and off

weary copper
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what is that? im on official client

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resetting mini menu reordering didn't fix it either

chrome lantern
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Can we like… Release teasers for Grid Master on Discord? I don’t have and never use twitter

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Only reason I even knew there were teasers is a single person in another discord I’m in posted the most recent one just now lol

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I didn’t even know there had been teasers before now

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Other than the gradual grid reveals

chrome grotto
chrome lantern
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a.) Why would it be in the Leagues Discord if it's not leagues and they have specific channels here for the event
b.) I'm in that Discord and still don't see any actual notifications of teasers/updates to the blog from Jagex

chrome grotto
chrome lantern
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You can't possibly be pretending that non-Jagex personnel posting text of teasers is Jagex making announcements of teasers

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Because there are no posts by Jagex anywhere remotely near where you linked me

chrome grotto
chrome lantern
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My thoughts to you exactly. How are you going to clown around and pretend that Jagex is making an announcement when you're referring to people in the community compensating for the fact that Jagex isn't making announcements

chrome grotto
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they are making announcements via twitter,, which the community reuploads on leagues

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content is the same G

chrome lantern
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Just because people repost something doesn't mean they're actually making the announcements elsewhere which was literally my entering argument/request

chrome grotto
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but why does it matter kekW

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the exact same information is posted on that discord

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which is a jagex sanctioned discord for events

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your just mad there isn't an M emoticon on the person posting it

chrome lantern
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Well for one thing, there was zero expectation that I would ever look there remotely ever to find that news

chrome grotto
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thats brain diff

chrome lantern
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For another, this discord is the Official OSRS discord and they have specific channels and platforms dedicated to putting out information like this

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And they're not using it

chrome grotto
chrome lantern
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Ah yes, we should expect every person to go to an entirely different Discord server to get news on an official OSRS event that is updated on official OSRS blog posts.

That's a really dumb entering argument and is your entire premise

chrome grotto
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they put it on the leagues server

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again, brain diff

chrome lantern
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There are entire sets of channels for that

chrome grotto
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link it

chrome lantern
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But again, these channels aren't updated when stuff is actually released either

chrome grotto
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those are threads

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not channels

chrome lantern
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There are always similar channels for leagues and DMM in this server too

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wym 3 of those are channels lmao

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And 1 forum

tacit wharf
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surprised there is no #twitter channel in the announcements section on this discord, where they just repost what they post on twitter

wise cloud
fickle valve
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I just logged into mobile for the first time since this weeks update and all my game sounds sound very sharp / shrill anyone know what’s going on?

meager flame
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It shouldn’t be but arcane dropping tons of direct info in a random server or random Reddit replies doing better than entire blog posts is tradition

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You gotta be playing where’s Waldo and following absolutely everything everywhere with jagex when it comes to anticipated events and updates lol

weary copper
scenic smelt
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jagex playtesting updates

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any ios ppl get the new update?

tacit wharf
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maybe stop playing the inferior device (probably waiting on ios to ok the update)

weary copper
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ios is notorious for having a really long verification process

scenic smelt
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fine ill leave work early to do birdhouse runs and agility with no lag lol

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or go buy a samsung phone

tardy flicker
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Sucks that I can't remap the camera keys to WASD on the vanilla client

tacit wharf
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who is moving their camera in this day and age with wasd and not middle mouse

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yr left hand is for yr f-keys

thick beacon
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ive never really moved cameras in games with middle mouse so wasd feels alot more natrual for me

tacit wharf
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then how do u f-key

thick beacon
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theres enough down time I dont need to switch tabs constantly and also I rarely have to move the camera to begin with

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like verzik webs is prob biggest place i move camera alot and i dont need to switch tabs really during that

tacit wharf
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hmm, i guess i just move my camera just to much to keep moving my hands back and forth

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i use to use the arrow keys back in the day but since coming back (start of GIM) havent taken my hand off the f-keys

ember token
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nothing

indigo tinsel
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Lets keep it appropriate for the server please.

scenic smelt
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litreally 1984

fallow mortar
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Any update on mobile being playabale again?

late crown
frail bough
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idk if it been made apparent but it seems the gridmaster reveals on the blog is broken

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frail bough
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fixed now

clever fog
hazy verge
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It is still happening on my end

opal urchin
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Dear Jagex,

Like we've said throughout the blog, let us know your thoughts, comments, queries or concerns in all of the usual places and we'll make any adjustments that feel necessary.

"the usual places" is not quite clear where the usual places are, but there are a handful of places listed, including this place.

With respect to new player changes, I think that the proposed new player changes are universally worth making. Everything on the list seems like a substantial improvement, and I think you should be proud of your ideas and should implement them because they would, sincerely, be a good set of additions to the game.

floral lintel
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The minimap minimizes in a nice clean straight line on mobile but in a L on desktop. I was really excited for this feature but it fell short for me. I'd love to see it revisited a little. Possibly just some options for layout style (straight line like mobile or L-shaped). Part of my issue with the L shape is that it rearranges the top to bottom order of the orbs from health, prayer, run, spec to run, health, prayer, spec. Toggling between the minimap and minimized option doesn't feel very intuitive with the order changing. You also dont save a ton of space with the L option since the XP drops and minimap button are right in the middle as well. I think this was a great feature for people that like to have more screenspace but it still needs more more love.

hard axle
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Player Attack options: Always right-click.

If Skull Prevention is going to be on by default, this should also be Left Click by default. Players misclicking when wanting to fight back and running back towards the pker is a big source of frustration.

Music Volume: 10%
Sound Volume: 20%
Area Sound Volume: 15%

Should be 5% each so it's not overpowering to those who their normal volume settings at 70-100%.

Accept Aid: On

Please also fix this turning off each time a new quest is added. It's not a huge issue to new players, but frustrating if you do later content with others and it's off because a quest just dropped.

thick meteor
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With the gatherer benefit, do you receive xp in a skill past 200m? Meaning, if i hit 200m in a skill and others are at 100m, can i continue doing the 200m skill to gain xp in other skills? Or will the experience be zero after i hit 200m

ember token
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don't think that's known, although it probably won't be relevant because you're not going to need to get 100m in any skill

restive storm
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Wildy is so outta control with 400 worlds man please cut this down jagex it takes like 2+ hours to check one spot in revs

ember token
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yeah im not really sure why they had to enable the gridmaster worlds early as regular worlds

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im guessing technical reason or just convenience

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or they wanted to make sure the worlds were running fine beforehand

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because obviously they knew the impact it would have on the wilderness because they talked about it in the blog when they added these newest worlds

restive storm
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This has been legit the worst I’ve ever seen it out here. I just hate that they hit us with the “yeah this is probably gonna even kill it more than it’s already did, but we’ll talk about it” then they did nothing when they released the worlds lol

small anvil
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i imagine it's to test the servers

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it's likely they're cloud servers or smth

restive storm
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It’s just so sad to have to hop 80 worlds to even find one bot at this point let alone an actual person

hasty shard
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reddit thinks this is a good thing btw

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like unanimously

restive storm
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I mean should say something that jagex themselves recognizes that it’s probably a problem, and Reddit thinks it’s great right?

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Like at that point give everyone their own personal world, but don’t let them ever log into an actual multiplayer world ever again

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Cuz right now it’s awful

hard axle
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these are the same fools that wanted 2t pre-nerf bp btw

hasty shard
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when are we gonna actually get a minigame that teaches pvp

tacit wharf
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lms

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literally all pvm content

hasty shard
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😭 sure pvm

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i would not call lms good considering its tribrid with infinite prayer and you change gear constantly, alongside what setup (med/zerk etc) you use being inconsistent per game

tacit wharf
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now yr just making exuses

hasty shard
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do you want redditors to kill the wilderness

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or do you want them to quit being babies about it

tacit wharf
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what has that got to do with anything you just said about minigames and learning pvp?

hasty shard
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redditors dont like pvp because they cant pvp
your only options for getting into it are to just sink gp or lms and they just abandon shit like pvp arena

tacit wharf
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using 3 combat styles to fight - dks/raids/basically most high level bosses
gear switiching - all of pvm does this
prayer switching - any mid level boss and scurries

all 3 things want to learn to start doing during pvp fights

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how to recover after taking a ton of dmg from any boss - gotta do that in pvp too while not panicing

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1 tick flicking - great for learning to not waste ticks while fighting someone

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why typically being good at pvm translates into being decent at pvp
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typically why good pvpers are decent at pvm

hasty shard
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nvm reddits right now

tacit wharf
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sure bud

floral blaze
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I love Jagex so much omggg the wilderness is so fun now!!!! Finally I can kill chaos druids with no fear @@@@@!!!!

chrome lantern
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Yeah I'm by no means good at PvP but I can at least beat the average player that doesn't pvp just by having experience in PvM

floral blaze
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Krystilia my love, I am coming!!!!

restive storm
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Yeah I mean tbf the average player can’t turn on an overhead prayer but it’s kinda wild if they manage to turn on pray mage they can likely tank a half from a guy in like 500m risk if they just keep clicking yellow

final frigate
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it's not just about pvp or pvm anyway

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enemy difference aside most players don't do any challenging content at all

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including difficult pvm

final frigate
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there are countless people who think content like inferno or colo is impossible for them or look for all the ways to cheese them

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pvp is further hated on cause people can't cheese it

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while most other content in the game you can get by while playing (extremely) suboptimally

tacit wharf
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well lets take the best metric we have been given info for atm (atleast the last updated) which is the % of players that have elite+ CA's which is at 2% of the player base

final frigate
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it's also why things like boss kcs are worthless, there are so many ways people can bypass or simply be bad and still complete pvm content

tacit wharf
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can probably say that u can multiply that by 5-7 times to get those that at hard, so conservatively 10-14% of players would be ok or decent at pvp in some degree

final frigate
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which doesn't work when there's a human enemy attacking you

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(which you can still escape most of the time)

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since to nobody's surprise there are also plenty of bad pkers

tacit wharf
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u also have other who dont interact with pvm at all that are good pkers or decent pkers

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so i think a good conservative number is around 10%

final frigate
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i don't think there's any decent metric btw unfortunately

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especially hard/elite cas

tacit wharf
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thats true

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guestimation is all we can really go off of

final frigate
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ideally it would be stuff like raid clear time pbs or similar

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but no data on those so

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the recent multiple kc speed cas are not bad but very limited in content

tacit wharf
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could say infernal cape havers but we all know those numbers have been buffed due to illicient means as well

final frigate
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yeah

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inferno and colo pbs are probably decent

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slight tangent but it's also partially why solo toa is so hated on by a lot of casual players

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since if you play badly you will wipe

tacit wharf
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this is is coming from one that was both in the p2p and f2p pk scene for many years and doesnt have elite CA's, nor infernal, quiver (been my goal the last few weeks)

final frigate
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while the other 2 raids you have teammates in non-solo scales

hasty shard
final frigate
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yeah

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it's unfortunate that toa focuses more on consistency than raw mechanics but it's still a good raid for learning pvm if people wanted to

hasty shard
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i dont like that you gotta forfeit with toa even without death invos

final frigate
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and it has more of a skill ceiling than most give credit

hasty shard
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honey locusts suck i think

tacit wharf
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one of the first invo's u turn on, is no food

hasty shard
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that too

final frigate
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nowadays you don't even take damage for most of the raid anyway so it is what it is

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hopefully that encourages more people to learn it properly but that'll never happen

steady rampart
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anyone see this before?

ember token
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no I haven't

tiny epoch
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yep i seen it

frail bough
gleaming quiver
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is there any appetite for putting membership remaining into the jagex launcher? would like to see how much time is on my acc without loading the character

analog crow
zealous ledge
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Since the update whenever there is a item on the grond behind a mob that I cpick, it always selects the item. Very annoying. Is this only me?

gleaming quiver
chrome lantern
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It shows when your membership expires for a character under the play/launch button for me

gleaming quiver
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I can't paste an image of my client in here but I don't have that at all - is that a setting youve turned on or something?

dire mango
restive storm
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any update on if jagex is doing anything to relieve the pain on the wilderness with the like 60 additional worlds, in addition to the already too many like 300?

ember token
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yep

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they just revealed they're releasing some kind of new event called "grid master" in 2 days, and these new worlds will be changed to grid master worlds, along with a bunch of the existing worlds

oblique mesa
restive storm
oblique mesa
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The 60 worlds are going to be turned into gridmaster worlds, the worlds are just preloaded

restive storm
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i know that

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so im assuming that means they wont be addressing the problem? idk why they even mentioned it then lol

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was kinda hoping for a solution that spanned even beyond those 60 worlds, because its still been bad even without those

oblique mesa
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Oh in general? Yeah they haven't followed up on that part thought you meant the 60 worlds specifically lol

restive storm
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i mean they said it was a problem, and were discussing potential solutions like a week before worlds went live, then they went live with no solution, and they just havent said anything

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so i imagine they just arent doing anything

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but its annoying to hear them acknowledge its a problem then be silent about it lol

ember token
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We'd like to clarify that while these new worlds will launch as standard worlds (so we can monitor them ahead of the Grid Master launch to ensure stability), once Grid Master goes live, they will become exclusive to the event. Once the event ends, they'll be removed.

Behind the scenes, we have begun early discussions around the impact that increasing the number of worlds has on player interactions within the Wilderness, and what we might be able to do to alleviate this. There's nothing concrete for us to share yet, but when we're ready we'll look to all of you to get your feedback!

sacred skiff
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Yeah I'm scramblin to finish my VW before they "fix" the fact that there are lots of wildy worlds lmao

analog crow
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Just wait 2 more days the "problem" will go away

ember token
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they never claimed they were going to come up with a solution in the 3 days between them posting this blog and the servers oging up

sacred skiff
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But still no luck on even a single piece :(

restive storm
sacred skiff
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Especially if they might somehow neuter scouting alts, would make singles bosses suck

analog crow
#

Enjoy hopping then

restive storm
#

and say "well we discussed it before"

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scouting alts for the most part exist because theres 450 worlds lol

sacred skiff
#

Oh no I mean my scouting alt lol

restive storm
#

but agree theyre mostly due to poor design of the wilderrness

sacred skiff
#

Who stands outside spindel etc

restive storm
#

oh yea, thats criminal that thats allowed lol

#

and not seen as a problem

sacred skiff
#

...and your scouting alts are?

restive storm
#

no

#

those are also existing due to bad design

#

most of those are bots anyway, i hope jagex bans them

#

but i can get why people use them

analog crow
#

wildy problem is much deeper than world count
most people just have no interest in pvp and want to avoid it

restive storm
#

there was like 80 scout bots at ferox a week or two ago that i had to report

#

agree theres more problems than world count, but chalking it up to people having no interest is also not at all why the activity is so low rn

analog crow
#

but I'm sure if you go to bh you'll find tonnes of players to fight

restive storm
#

BH kekw

#

the land of try to stack 115 then go get spec again

sacred skiff
#

If I could get my VW outside of the wildy, I would. But seeing as it's a very outside-of-wildy-relevant item that is only available in the wildy (opposite of what they'd promised like a week before btw), here I am

analog crow
restive storm
sacred skiff
#

I'm always torn on rev caves though: do I do a total world for no bots, but then the PKers also have 89 agil lol

restive storm
# analog crow welcome to osrs

didnt used to be like this back in 2020-2021 etc 🤷‍♂️ one update turned it into try to full hp stack someone, then freeze log and reset

sacred skiff
#

I think it is reasonable to expect not to have to interact with the portion of the playerbase whose fun comes at my expense

analog crow
restive storm
#

the problem rn is pkers are never forced to fight other pkers

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if you get tbed and the guys better than you, you just freeze them and log out

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then go back to hopping for 3 hours, rather than have to tank the 2.5-5min tbs

analog crow
#

tell that to all the special exceptions that have to be put on items in the wilderness

restive storm
#

????

sacred skiff
#

Anglerfish? Autocasting staves? size of spells in the spellbook?

#

All wildy exceptions

#

But whatever, just a few more singles boss kc surely and I never have to come back outside of clues

analog crow
#

size of spells is the most ridiculous one lmfao

restive storm
#

that ones one of the only that makes sense

#

also autocasting staves to not even have to use your spellbook would also be lame

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or do you mean trident etc? Cuz those i guess they c ould just nerf the power of and be fine prob

sacred skiff
#

No, the first one

restive storm
#

oh yeah that makes sense

sacred skiff
#

Because why should my ancient staff work the same across the entirety of Gielinor

restive storm
#

reducing the skill cap would be kinda unfun

sacred skiff
#

Powered staves have never worked on players, idc about that

restive storm
#

its already easy enough to escape

sacred skiff
#

Reducing the skill floor, rather, makes pvp more approachable.

#

The skill cap is still insanely high

#

Once you can gear and prayer swap, you can go for fakeouts and shit

restive storm
#

they've tried 10x to make it mroe approachable, most notably with the pj timer

sacred skiff
#

But I don't really care, I just mess with LMS sometimes cuz it's kinda fun

restive storm
#

and instead what that did, is remove the requirement for pkers to tank other pkers, and just made pvmers even more of the prime focus

sacred skiff
#

Would like autocasting and shift-click to work though

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I mean if the PJ timer didn't exist I would actually always escape a PKer, because my scout could just bolt rag them

#

Or you'd have to be hunting singles bosses in teams of 2

restive storm
sacred skiff
#

which would suck for Pkers too

#

PJ timer is still overall good, because singles clans trading d spear and mace specs were like the second-most cancerous thing to exist in the wildy

#

after rev caves

restive storm
ionic tartan
restive storm
#

the pj timer changed nothing about spear/macing because that happens in multi lmao

#

dspear/macing has never occurred in singles ever

sacred skiff
#

Yeah lol idk fuck-all about pvp, I only interact with it when I'm forced to

ionic tartan
#

They added a PJ timer to when you got specc'd to stop spec dumping, before the PJ timer update. So IDK what singles dspear/macing is (unless you mean spearing into multi)

restive storm
#

so you pointing to the pj timer solving that, just drives me crazy

sacred skiff
#

PJ timer does evoke pker tears, but on the other hand my alt could guarantee escapes. Idk I'm torn on it

restive storm
#

it in turn also evokes pvmer tears because pkers are almost exclusively hitting them now, instead of hitting the pkers

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due to them being impossible to find/hit

sacred skiff
#

Oh I see what you're saying

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Yeah that's true

restive storm
#

this has literally been a problem since the day its been implemented, and jagex has never talked about it once lol

hard axle
restive storm
#

its crazy that that design flaw has been there since day 1, and still has not been addressed

#

the escape caves in the multi ones for me is still the kicker though

#

i legit cant bring myself to go multi pking on pures cuz i have to bank after 2 worlds, from spamming brews the entire way through

limber briar
restive storm
#

or just bring barrage?

#

and log out

sacred skiff
#

Eh I just do dragons and am usually quick enough to get away

#

Knight is so slow

limber briar
#

I did dark beast for last like 3k revs for craws bow was chill screen flashed red i clicked pod never pked

sacred skiff
#

That does sound more chill. But also they have worse rates

#

Clearly I should just have all the reward and no risk, wtf jagex

limber briar
#

Yeah I did knights/dragons first like 4-5k revs but was just annoying over time

leaden sluice
#

If jagex creates a Crandor Telport, the whole Sailing skill would become obsolete

sacred skiff
#

They effectively did, you can Teleport to Boat. So level to like 15, park your boat there, and you never have to engage with the skill again

idle rapids
#

There's no port at crandor

#

Idk if you'd be able to park your boat in the middle of the ocean

#

Or disembark from your boat onto crandor

#

anyways it takes like 1 minute to get to crandor its not that bad tbh

sacred skiff
#

Oh weird I thought I remembered there being one. Yeah it’s like a 1m walk from the diary tzhaar or slightly further from the tzhaar fairy ring, it’s n2b

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Oh cuz mean Elvarg destroyed the port

meager flame
#

after you finish dragon slayer you can build a small place to dock

#

there should probably be a bunch of small things like that added with sailing

heavy ledge
solar juniper
ember token
analog crow
#

Where gaem?? 😭

bronze hatch
#

30more minutes

lunar hawk
#

Server online

#

?

rough vector
#

Negative

lunar hawk
#

I’m gonna lose my mind

#

This downtime is making me spend time with my newborn and wife

#

F in the chat

ember token
#

unfortunately there's 16 minutes left for the servers to go back up, but in 15 minutes, you will lose your mind completely

rose pivot
#

My wife and 11 month old are asleep @lunar hawk so yea I'm bored too

#

But its almost back

foggy gorge
#

Ughh, let me play already StrayDogSadge

left totem
#

5 mins ?

random depot
#

doubt it

ruby bison
#

its up

#

o wait

random depot
#

not my runelite

frozen osprey
#

When online

sage wren
#

its up

fleet stag
#

game is up

frozen osprey
#

It’s 10pm how is it not up yet

fleet stag
#

:p

astral oriole
#

Not up 4 me

frozen osprey
#

1 minute late ffs

sage wren
#

nvm, unable to cennect to update server

fair ice
#

Hopefully this is them testing so we can actually connect with our Jagex Accounts tomorrow :^)

frozen osprey
#

Update never on time already 1 min over

random depot
#

runelite not crashing

#

we're so back

fleet stag
#

oh yeah not loading server now

ruby bison
#

its up gogogogo

frozen osprey
#

2 mins now wowwwwwww

lunar hawk
#

Not working for me

#

Runelite

ruby bison
#

runelite is up

rare dawn
fleet stag
#

now its up

sage wren
#

runelite is working

#

login server offline

#

fuck sake

random depot
#

I'm ingame

abstract oyster
#

im in

sage wren
#

im in now

fleet stag
#

im logged in w476

frozen osprey
#

Mobile working

solemn cairn
#

how to access the grid master world?

ember token
#

but grid master doesnt start for another 24 hours

solemn cairn
#

oh lol

fair ice
#

Game on

edgy chasm
#

Karambwan fishing spot disappear after update ?

#

XD

chrome lantern
#

It works the same way it does in literally every game server reset

#

In that it continues to move until it gets stuck

edgy chasm
#

oh ok

#

i didn't see that before

nocturne solstice
charred matrix
#

Turael/Aya skipping broken again? I can't cancel wilderness slayer task (spiritual creatures) with Aya.

chrome lantern
#

lmaooooo actually comical if true

zinc galleon
hallow flame
charred matrix
#

did they forget the hotfix patch from last week?

solemn marlin
#

Fucking stuck with 238 black demons zzz

#

I tureal skipped whole day yday so then it was fine

charred matrix
#

yup same

primal tapir
#

Anyone else on mobile not able to change world?

solemn marlin
#

Also that yes

solemn marlin
charred matrix
meager flame
#

too bad they didn't raise poll requirements to something halfway reasonable with those changes

kindred pond
#

When is the Halloween event coming?

finite bolt
#

in a couple days

ember token
finite bolt
#

Is it not releasing at the same time as the livestream?

#

October 16, 2025 at 9:00 AM for this year’s Halloween livestream

nocturne solstice
finite bolt
#

Nice

kindred pond
analog crow
#

While separate eligibility for answering a question might be a good idea, I belive the question should still be visible to everyone, for the sake of openness.

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minor whale
#

There's several references to "The Megalith" in the polls 👀
Wonder what that could be

ember token
ember token
torpid delta
#

this is why my test polls were all obviously fake questions like "which of these OSRS skills are bouba and which skills are kiki?"

minor whale
#

But some skills are so obviously bouba that this leads credence to it being real

restive siren
frail bough
#

++ poll updates

#

Manually opening and closing polls is wild.

torpid delta
#

I had a bit of a "wait, you live like this?" moment when I first read the step-by-step documentation on how polls are launched

still sundial
#

when I saw poll interface being reworked I immediately thought Lykos must be behind it

obsidian venture
#

Glad there’s finally some talk on updating the polling system

#

Also that there will be certain restrictions

#

I hope you aren’t too lenient with them

violet sigil
#

ancestralhmm wheres my poll eligibility to players that didn't kill a goblin or cow yet

shadow wave
sacred skiff
#

Sailing is gonna be so bouba I need it out now

tacit wharf
#

i expect the announcement of sailings release date during the week of the 29th (sailing panel at london comic con is the 30th)

warm epoch
#

Will we be going back to what the polling charter says with the new blog post about polling?

ember token
#

nothing about the polling charter is changing with the new system, they're gonna keep doing what they're doing but with a better ability to run polls

warm epoch
#

The polling charter has been getting ignored, and the blog said nothing will change about it

#

That's kind of ambiguous, so I'm wondering if we'll go back to it or continue ignoring it

ember token
#

yeah i mean i dont even really know what you're talking about, if you think they're not respecting it then i wouldnt expect anything to change

frail bough
#

What's been ignored?

tacit wharf
warm epoch
ember token
#

thats not really an answer

frail bough
#

I can see it, what are your examples

warm epoch
#

If you can't answer the question, you don't have to answer the question

ember token
#

the fact that you seem to be the only person expressing this concern should be answer enough

#

whatever you think the problem is here is not a problem to anyone else

#

they're not putting a bunch of dev work into anything that needs to be polled without greenlighting it first

frail bough
#

Or at least not as obvious as you think.

"If you can't read my mind, you don't know the answer to the question" tf?

warm epoch
#

We're free to hold up a mirror to them and make sure they actually do follow what they've put out

frail bough
#

What?

warm epoch
#

And if we want to go back to the old polling charter where we did put more dev time into anything before polling it, that's fine too

ember token
#

you've been unable to provide an example of them going against the polling charter so far

frail bough
#

Did you not say they aren't following the charter? What are you saying they aren't following?

obsidian venture
warm epoch
frail bough
#

How are we doing that

#

Plz give example

warm epoch
#

You're not a jmod

#

Plz

ember token
warm epoch
#

Again, I don't expect anyone that isn't a JMod to be able to answer. In fact, I'd say anyone that isn't a JMod shouldn't answer

frail bough
#

This isn't an answer for devs if you're the one bringing up that its an issue. How is it that you feel this is happening?

ember token
#

i think if you're being serious that there is a big gap between what you think you're saying and how everyone else is interpreting it

frail bough
#

Yeah i really don't think you're saying what you think you're saying

obsidian venture
#

Brb I’ll be summoning a Jmod

ember token
#

you are saying "We're sliding back from high level design to "we already put a bunch of dev work into it"" - by we, you mean Jagex here

what is a specific example of Jagex sliding back from high level design to "we already put a bunch of work into it"?

#

you are making the claim that Jagex is ignoring the polling charter, and we're asking to you to provide a specific example of a poll or piece of content that ignored the polling charter

sacred oracle
#

The polling update is fantastic, but it's too late to save the sailing pet vote. Any chance we can repoll that with the new poll abilities? Crab had the most votes and most voters preferred a crab, but the crab vote was split making it fairly impossible for a crab to win despite it having the most overall votes.

tacit wharf
#

both crabs were not the same

#

pirate hook crab good
bottle shell crab bad (way to much going on with it to look good, though liked the premise)

frail bough
#

Maybe they add 17 different sailing pets like they did with hunter

tacit wharf
#

possibility

#

though i do think the pets name should be skippy

ember token
#

skippy is just a super fitting name on its own, completely ignoring the poll thing where skip had the most votes lol

main kestrel
#

i cant post pictures but the 'matrix' part of the poll blog is not friendly to me at all, id much prefer a sliding scale option or a more distinct difference between options, more separation between vertical and horizontal buttons, big checkmarks, anything like that if possible, i cant see the dots i clicked because they disappear the second i read something

frail bough
#

Can you explain more about how they disappear when you read something

main kestrel
#

google dots illusion

#

it takes strain to review my answer if that makes sense instead of having a good overview after youre done answering

torpid delta
#

I think the in-game interface will be better in that regard because it uses the standard OSRS graphics with a nice green tick for the selected option

unique kestrel
#

Great update, but the poll history screen looks a bit messy with all the different buttons. That's just a small nitpick i have though

chrome lantern
#

Has anyone talked about drastically increasing minimum requirements for polling?

#

I was looking at some of those examples they listed, and I wouldn’t want to consider someone with 10 Vorkath kc as someone that should be voting on Vorkath questions in their example

#

Also current voting minimums in general are laughably negligible

chrome lantern
chrome lantern
tiny flower
#

How do I play gridmaster? I heard you make a new account and join a specific world? Which world?

#

Is it this one that says Fresh Start?

chrome lantern
#

It’s the worlds at the end of the list but you can’t start until tomorrow

#

It will be very clear

sacred skiff
#

The worlds will say “Grid Master” though, yeah

tiny flower
#

Oh thank you!

heavy ledge
#

I really like the polling updates, but for the ranked questions I was curious if there's an option to leave some blank or have another way to indicate you specifically don't want one (or more) of the options listed? Also, would those be scored like instant-runoff votes?

#

Maybe "skip question" can have a ranking and anything ranked below it is something you don't want lol

rustic bluff
#

Hooray a new trash rushed game mode with fresh starts terrible rewards and boosted exp. Wow what a new exciting concept....so lame

chrome lantern
hard axle
#

That way you avoid survey/poll fatigue as they call it from having 8 questions about the same thing OR 8 Yes/No options.

chrome lantern
#

Yeah I would really like to see a lot more ability to comment on specific parts of polls because I very frequently disagree with very major components of a larger proposal that only has a single poll question

hard axle
chrome lantern
#

That’s largely more of a question writing issue but it feels like they often lump things together to make it so we can’t actually have any say in some stuff

hard axle
#

There's basically no difference between 300 total and spawning in with 40

chrome lantern
narrow folio
#

Let people vote how they want because that's the whole point

hard axle
#

So many people proudly say this shit on Reddit - Idc, I just autovote yes regardless if good or bad.

hard axle
narrow folio
#

If you restrict it too much it has its own problems

hard axle
#

Didn't say make it 2000+ and GM Helm to vote erm

#

It applies in both directions

obsidian venture
#

In the general sense it’s fine but for some specific things, they can lend an opinion if anything but shouldn’t be able to vote

hard axle
#

I personally think balance polls should never be in the hands of the playerbase since apparent nerfs = voted down, apparent buffs = voted yes anyway.

tacit wharf
hard axle
#

And then when it's flipped and ends up being the opposite, people are upset either way.

narrow folio
#

Well that's your opinion

obsidian venture
#

Indeed

narrow folio
#

Jagex can decide what to poll but it needs opinions from everyone

obsidian venture
#

But Jagex should be stricter in general

chrome lantern
#

I also don’t doubt that at least some bots are voting

narrow folio
#

There is no objective right or wrong answer or what's "good for the game" and players should be fine to vote for what they want

hard axle
obsidian venture
chrome lantern
obsidian venture
#

They did say they’d hear opinions even if the vote was limited, which solves both our stances

hard axle
#

Also, streamers are a cancer when it comes to voting erm

obsidian venture
#

But I’d rather them be stricter than that

hard axle
#

Reminder we lost a herb patch in Priff cuz they listened to Sick Nerd and didnt even poll it iirc

narrow folio
#

I agree 25h is too little

chrome lantern
#

Yeah I hate how much sway specific streamers have on polls and blogs

narrow folio
#

Also we need to cancel out votes coming from alts

chrome lantern
#

Other than my alts

tacit wharf
#

whats the req' for lms again?

narrow folio
#

Repoll that herb patch I say

hard axle
#

lmao

#

its like 500

tacit wharf
#

kinda my point

obsidian venture
tacit wharf
#

thought lms was like 750

chrome lantern
#

[[Last man standing]]

ornate wolfBOT
chrome lantern
#

Participating in Competitive and High Stakes requires players to have a minimum total level of 750 and 30 Quest points, or a minimum total level of 1,500 if they have less than 30 Quest points.

narrow folio
#

Generic polls should be very lenient but more lategame stuff can be stricter

tacit wharf
#

seems like a fine set of req's to vote as well

chrome lantern
#

What do you mean by generic polls

obsidian venture
#

I guess like do you want this content in game

meager flame
#

Jagex likes to give people the illusion of choice by putting it on the poll but curating the details of each option so that we pick the one they want or get nothing

wide ice
#

As a user researcher/data nerd, thank you for providing the data from the old polls. I'm excited to pour through them.

Y'all are in for a treat processing the raw data for the new poll system. These new question types are super powerful for consumer insights! Thank you for continuing to include us in your game updates.

tacit wharf
#

nothing i hate more than seeing these in a questionnaire

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meager flame
#

Pretty much the whole point of their frequent use of bundling multiple questions into one is so they can force their desired outcome

#

Tbh I kind of think over time osrs has shifted from what the players want towards the creative vision of a mod and how do we get them to say yes to the things we want to make

#

Like they’re trying to game the system and how players react to their ideas more than trying to make the things people asked for

frail bough
#

I know you sort of answered it but i think people who are literally titled game designers should probably be doing some sort of game designing and gathering feed back from the players so that they want to say yes to said thing being designed

#

Which is what you implied as a bad thing

meager flame
#

I mean it can be

#

That’s why osrs exists

tacit wharf
meager flame
#

Also having the title of game designer means nothing

#

As someone that’s actually worked on games and with devs for various things you’ll realize that people making video games have technical skills and an understanding of what is possible on a technical level

#

But they aren’t like some creative expert that knows how best to make fun content

#

They’re just people

#

It’s not like how your dentist knows how best to care for your teeth it’s far more subjective and more or less random

frail bough
#

Alright maybe i have the wrong title of the person. I think it's fair to say that giving them creative freedom and figuring out how to make the players vote yes isnt a bad thing

#

I think leaving all updates to what players suggest is actually idiotic.

Taking inspiration and making it so people say yes is not

meager flame
#

I don’t think freedom is bad I just think the motivation shift is a tone change for the game over time

#

I think you’re making a fundamentally different game when you shift from how do I fix these things they don’t like to how do I get them to let me make what I like

#

I do think it can work either way too that’s leaning towards how most games are made

#

Just dunno how far in that direction you can go before you lose what makes osrs what it is

frail bough
#

I think getting better feedback through in game things will probably help with that

chrome lantern
#

We settle for so much garbage

opal urchin
chrome lantern
meager flame
#

Yeah if they actually were avoiding that it would be fine

#

How they use it though is more like here’s 4 different questions that we would reasonably poll usually but we really want them all so

opal urchin
#

To me the polling changes clearly signify they don’t want to continue asking 30 binary choice questions and feeling gated

meager flame
#

Say yes to them all or get nothing bc we’re pretty sure you want at least two of those enough to accept the ones we know you probably don’t want

#

It’s just funny when it doesn’t work out

chrome lantern
meager flame
#

Because then they can’t make content over it

chrome lantern
#

So like this is more for doing surveys and feedback in-client rather than third party surveys

meager flame
#

When realistically they could’ve made something

chrome lantern
#

The improved Poll System gives us the tools to gather your thoughts in more meaningful ways, while still holding onto the principle that has defined Old School since 2013: if it is coming into the game, it needs 70% of your votes.
I do also find this interesting that they explicitly chose to include the 70% number in this statement

#

Because that's the one thing in this statement that has explicitly changed

meager flame
#

Well they were just trying to make it sound good

chrome lantern
#

70% pass threshhold is an entirely different discussion but also visibly highlights the fact that they're more concerned about making things pass than anything else

meager flame
#

Like yeah we can laugh at them for saying since 2013 like they’ve been doing it that way for more than a decade when in reality they changed that number a couple of years ago

#

Gotta hit your word count quota somehow though

bronze kernel
#

To be fair, I feel like the playerbase can be absolute idiots when it comes to some things

#

Voter's remorse

#

Although at the same time, also a problem where Jagex also not delivering what people expected

#

See Rune Pouch loadouts for a botched execution

hasty shard
#

zombie pirates and agility course :^)

#

also rogues chest tbh

#

at least people were sensible enough to not vote in 30x alching

chrome lantern
# bronze kernel See Rune Pouch loadouts for a botched execution

Outright baffling disconnects/botched executions:
-Rune pouch loadouts botched
-Yama Contracts "We're not doing Awakener's Orbs again"
-Colossal Wyrm completely unlike polled/blogged version (and originally released with garbage amylase rates)
-Unable to sort task list by weight at slayer masters when they said we'd be able to
-Quiver not holding 2 types of ammo in addition to your ammo slot as blogged/polled,
-Not delivering nearly as much in the PoH cosmetic update/themes as promised
-Yama proposed/polled as "endgame content" in terms of base difficulty

A bit more nuanced:
-Fletching Atlatl darts is still super slow per hour to get the materials and is way slower than just doing moons (and very out of the way since Duradel/Konar can't even assign Stalkers, even as a toggleable unlock)
-Pet reclaims still sucking because you have to go reclaim the pet

#

Those are big ones that stick out to me but there have been more

spare heron
#

Mobile fixed yet?

torpid delta
#

depends on what you mean by fixed

the incredibly poor performance issues -should- be resolved if you make sure you're on the latest version, although i've seen a few people claim otherwise

the sound issues / certain npcs being deprioritized in favor of loot underneath them is still an issue but they're aware of it

meager flame
#

ngl

#

i think the mobile stuff is kind of just showing off that jagex either cannot work at the same speed for the mobile client and its issues or that they have such a low priority for it that its kind of unsustainable at the pace they're changing the engine and adding things to the game

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im sure they aren't trying to just brick mobile but its been one long tragic streak of stuff not really working for like

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a long long time now

floral blaze
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Is it true they're finally making pvp opt-in? Let's f*cking go!!

sacred oracle
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Where did you see or hear that?

idle rapids
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probably thinking of rs3

round lintel
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guys ready for Grid Master?

heavy ledge
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nah, i havent greenlogged main game yet

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can they push it back a few centuries?

grave dragon
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Will servers be done for a while today or was it just yesterday?

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Down*

acoustic cosmos
#

Grid Master goes live at… midnight? Really jagex? I don’t think the discord announcement time is right 😆

acoustic cosmos
compact flicker
acoustic cosmos
compact flicker
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Everyone would be in shambles!

unreal plover
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i think they messed up the pvp world rotation

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its currently on A and theyre saying its changing to A

ember token
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i think they might be correcting it because they messed it up last week I believe?

unreal plover
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did they?

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cant find anything about that

ember token
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was last week or the week before that

unreal plover
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how would that change things tho

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like its still on rotation A and theyre saying its changing to rotation A?

ember token
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they forgot to update the rotation a week or 2 ago, so to get things back into the same cycle, they're not updating the rotation again, so it's back on cycle

ancient ember
ember token
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ah well nvm then

frail bough
#

I remem reading that too but still didn't make sense to me lol

jade gull
#

How long is update gonna take this time

analog crow
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30 mins

fallow mortar
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How does this game have another update and they havent added shit

nocturne solstice
jade gull
nocturne solstice
analog crow
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Please jmods tell me you have something to streamline the lesser demon
The 2 hour queue is not a fun meme it's terrible design

fallow mortar
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Didnt add anything

ember token
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it broke the game last week because it was missing the hotfixes from the update before that

nocturne solstice
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Last week didnt have an update.

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It was supposed to just be a pvp rota swap iirc

fallow mortar
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Wow. Almost said what i said. Thanks for repeating it king

nocturne solstice
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Calling it an update when it wasnt an update is incorrect frog

fallow mortar
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They should probably change the name of the ‘system update’ timer in game then

ember token
#

#game-news message the update on the 1st, there was some issue with moons and stuff, which got hotfixed, and then the issues came back on the 8th as they restarted the servers but did no update, and for some reason the game just went back to the pre-hotfixed state, so they fixed it again

analog crow
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Someone data mined the grid? 🤣

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fallow mortar
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Again. Only game to update the game, add nothing, and break it

nocturne solstice
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Neat

thick beacon
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is the game back online for mainworlds?

analog crow
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game is gone

nocturne solstice
thick beacon
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in 20mins?

nocturne solstice
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ye

analog crow
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Oh hell no mine from gemstone crab is a task 😩

nocturne solstice
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ez

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immediately speedrun to gemstone before it gets crowded

worldly valve
#

wait it's not just witnes it burrow?

analog crow
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two different tasks probably

ancient ember
worldly valve
analog crow
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dk will be crowded for sure

nocturne solstice
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Time to learn DK peepognomeblush

analog crow
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nah learning isn't the issue

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finding a world is

worldly valve
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i did some Rex to get CAs a few days ago

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it was awful

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that run, and then making it to the safespot

analog crow
worldly valve
analog crow
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no idea

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might be a meme

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would be epic though

worldly valve
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oh yeah its been a meme for a few days

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ever since they said don't worry about the demon task

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been speculated it could be an instance (boring) multi (slightly less boring) or it would be all demons with the wizard in the cage (chad)

analog crow
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it will be interesting to see how they make this task not be miserable

nocturne solstice
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People enjoy the queue peepognomeblush

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i will simply do the big brain move of avoiding it for a few days

analog crow
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same honestly

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I don't think the 5 min hit is relevant once you have the first mastery

nocturne solstice
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very true

heady canyon
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they've upgraded it to an abyssal demon to make the queue move faster

worldly valve
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like, not a small boost

analog crow
heady canyon
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problem solved!

analog crow
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I’m gonna run by the tower anyway probably so I’ll peep the queue then
If I see people I’ll skip

analog crow
worldly valve
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well if they really dont make any changes

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its bad design imo

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really bad

agile notch
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I'd imagine they made it either multi, or respawn instantly.

analog crow
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Even if it’s multi they need to give it modern kc mechanics

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Not the moldy old kq/gwd code

worldly valve
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like ive said before it's fine in leagues cuz it's one of a thousand tasks and not important in the grand scheme

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but in gridmaster it's quite oofy

frail bough
#

Its probably a mini 1hp lesser demon lol

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"Even lesser demon"

analog crow
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lmao

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least demon

frail bough
#

Yes lmao

analog crow
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Least Demon (lvl. 1)
Examine text: At least it's a demon

frail bough
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Plz

bold knoll
#

update broadcast currently links to the wrong newspost

wary bolt
#

When hd/api update devs?

agile notch
#

They're never on time, we all know that by now. Always assume 30 minute delay lol

lunar hawk
#

wtf

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Did anyone get rillbscked

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I lost 2 runecrafting lvls

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wtf man

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Rollbacked

floral blaze
#

so the alternative they proposed to zanaris is once a year, leagues-esque limited time mode events Laughhard

ember token
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not really meant to be an alternative

fallow mortar
#

Jagex takes as long as physically possible to drop an update

worldly valve
#

where full grid

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holy schomley

ember token
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on the wiki

worldly valve
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im gonna wear a zuk helm

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hell yeah

ancient ember
silent grail
oak flame
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where is the grid master world?

worldly valve
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not up yet

oak flame
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wasnt it supposed to go up with the update just now

worldly valve
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no

normal temple
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It was supposed to go up at 4am PST

worldly valve
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they dont wanna make the mistake of having everyone log in for GM just as the servers come back up

normal temple
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Which it is not yet

ember token
worldly valve
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its in 15 mins

ember token
#

reading the blog tends to answer questions

oak flame
oak flame
charred tundra
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kekw

fallow mortar
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How many of the top streamers are gonna get spooned. Taking bets now.

amber ember
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No clue related rewards?

ember token
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no clue related tiles

thick beacon
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it doesint even seem like u need to get that spooned get mrares pretty quick it seems like

charred tundra
#

yeah drop rates are already at 8x

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if you don't get a drop you want after a few tries. skill issue tbh

fallow mortar
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Zl to anyone who cant do inferno, coliseum, or delve lvl 8 🫡

normal temple
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Not really much to get spooned on outside of like, Vorkath lmao

fallow mortar
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Completely cut those people out the event

charred tundra
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They can learn with all the combat masteries and stuff

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Totally learnable :<

fallow mortar
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If you cant do it normally

thick beacon
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they have that 1 relic i forget infinite stand never die?

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if u cant die its probaly possible

fallow mortar
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Is that a thing?

charred tundra
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Yeah. Last stand is available - combat masteries are available - shark, bottomless pot

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If you can't do it on gridmaster, literal skill issue. need to get hands checked.

fallow mortar
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Alr its 4am. Wheres Gridmaster

dusty nebula
#

thanks for the warning or server reset countdown...just kick people off the server

thick beacon
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i wish power level was alot weaker but thats hot take

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seems like u dont even need hands to do any of the challanges

north moat
dusty nebula
vivid ruin
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Quite literally

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Every Wednesday

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At this time

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For a decade

dusty nebula
torpid valve
vivid ruin
analog crow
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Okay looks like lesser demon is still terrible

rain depot
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resetting all game settings (including on non Grid Master worlds) is not cool, please fix this in future

brazen geode
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is the game mode live? the worlds arent poping up for me

unkempt grove
brazen geode
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i see people streaming it on youtube so im hella confused

upbeat shadow
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are you guys being able to login to your jagex account? its always saying my verification code is wrong or expired

brazen geode
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i dont even have a jagex account, i was just using runeligh

restive siren
ancient ember
restive siren
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same with @unkempt grove

unkempt grove
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you have to select them from log in if using runelite

brazen geode
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418

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grindmaster world

unkempt grove
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they cant be found in runelite switcher yet

upbeat shadow
ancient ember
unkempt grove
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can just select it from log in screen. ez

upbeat shadow
ancient ember
round lintel
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is it intentional not to have unlimited home teleports?

frozen lion
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leaked files forsenKUKLE

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time to analyze them

analog crow
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@ancient ember Please also raise that we need unlimited home/minigame teleports

barren oyster
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anyone else can't mine pre?

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ore?

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okay word so it's just brown

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broken

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psa if you get that bug have a normal pick in invent it uses echo axe still and works *

fair ice
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Every rock only has the examine text

barren oyster
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just have a bronze pick in ur inv and it'll work

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kind of annoying but it's the work around

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you need an axe and harpoon too but it works

fair ice
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Thankyou godbless

lone remnant
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turn off 'tool required' plugin

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also, pretty sure saplings are bugged

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my watered sapling is not growing

fallow mortar
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Holy fuck the game is so laggy

barren oyster
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brodigie i can't believe tool required doesn't work with the echo tools i was mind blown

timber sandal
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Does anyone know where I can find a grid master guide? I.g. Spawn in -> pickpocket to lvl 10 -> kill a goblin, cow, chicken -> get lvl 10 fishing in linbridge swamp, etc?

barren oyster
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faux has a good one

timber sandal
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Ok ty

round lintel
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Alrighty so teleports like the fairy mushroom dont work above 20 wildy like in leagues, home teleport has cooldowns like main game...

north parcel
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Is gridmaster live? I traveling and trying my play on my phone but I don’t see any of the servers

nocturne solstice
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its live

north parcel
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It will be green worlds right?

ember token
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been live for hours

north parcel
ember token
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the worlds say grid master

north parcel
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Ah

plucky spire
#

HEY! why cant we put the chair in our Pet House?????

scenic ibex
#

@nocturne solstice saw a suggestions post where you asked someone to not ghost bump a post. How do you ghost bump a post? Like commenting and then deleting your comment?

ember token
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only if you want the xp rewards

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its way faster than leagues

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you can do whatever and you'll be fine

chrome lantern
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Yeah grid is completable in like a matter of a few days not weeks

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I expect a completion in a day or two

ember token
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i think if someone gets spooned it could be completed day 1

dire mural
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for gatherer should i go fishing, thief or agil for my main?

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fishing super afk, thief fast xp, agil constant passive xp

ember token
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if you want to complete the board, you'll want to do fishing or woodcutting along with slayer and agility

dire mural
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i went with fish, hunter and slayer, why agil as a second?

ember token
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one of the tiles is floor 5 sepulchre

dire mural
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yea but corner cutter should get u there, maybe not in the fastest way

ember token
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yeeaah no it wont

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you'll be doing underwater thieving with dodgy deals for your agility

dire mural
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ahh true i remember now, but with dodgy it was like 2 hrs

cyan sparrow
#

hey, for f2p (yea I know, why), the only maple tree is locked behind ds1 right? cosair

ember token
#

yes

cyan sparrow
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well, I should've mined rocks insead

grizzled moth
#

What does the +12 invisible boost come from? am i missing something
e: nvm

shy cosmos
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anyone know why house reloads everytime you remove a marble wall?

meager pier
#

remove the chairs from pvp worlds its unbearable!!

round lintel
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Do you guys think is intentional that rune packs now dont auto open when buying bulk in this grid master as it did for leagues?

dire mural
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honestly its faster to just set buy 50 and spam the rune itself

round lintel
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I know but in leagues you could buy 25k runes at the time

dire mural
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yeah

idle rapids
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Also couldn’t people just use clockwork toys to do the same things

gusty stratus
#

Cannot use Echo Harpoon as a harpoon, despite Animal Wrangler implying that it counts as one. Tested only on Karamja when high level enough for Tuna and Swordfish.

Also damn, stream made me think woodcutting would be easy. F2P only. Entire run would've been a lot easier if I picked mining and food first.

Edit: i think ive been playing for 14 hours. woops

Edit 2 at 16 hours: just found out there's no way to use the points earned when f2p-only. only learned because the wiki says it. makes sense, but a warning wouldve been better

tardy pivot
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Does anyone else feel the reqs for gloves of the damned are a little higher than they should be? Locking them behind all 4 awakened bosses seems super cruel for the average player. Yes, I know you are not supposed to finish the board, but at the same time you do want people to feel powerful

nocturne solstice
tardy pivot
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Yeah, but isn't that the point tho? I think the point that barrows upgrades is locked behind 4 awakend bosses is crazy

nocturne solstice
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the point is complete challenges to get massive buffs, if there's no challenges its just creative mode

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I think after completing the other tiles and getting buffs, you might not find awakened dt2 that challenging

tardy pivot
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I still agree with you, but I think there should be another item there other than the gloves of the damned. My point is by the time you beat the awakend bosses the gloves are not going to feel that special.

nocturne solstice
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thats fair, a better reward woulda been nicer

hasty shard
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gloves already werent super powerful iirc

cold kindle
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why must the game force me to temp modes? i dont wanna play temp modes. i have my fav word selected and ever since grid master when i boot up the client it throws me straight to a grid master game. i get people like temp modes, yet im not a fan of them being shoved down my thoart everytime i boot up osrs to play

restive siren
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How dare they

frail bough
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maybe read updates and you would have known before today

cold kindle
# restive siren Yeah evil Company for forcing to swap world

never said that but being forced to those worlds are not enjoyable. specially when you dont play old school RuneScape for that. you may take my words and twist them how ever you see fit, my point gridmaster shouldnt take predicant over the main game world. i paid mems for osrs not osrs temp mode

frail bough
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they said they were adding the new worlds for grid master and that they will be removed afterwards

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so you must have chose the wrong world to favorite after they already announced this

cold kindle
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my world 370 is fav for 5 years

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its the game litteraly pushing the mode on to players

frail bough
#

370 looks like a normal world to me so idk what you mean

wide oak
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it takes 2 seconds to change the world

cold kindle
# wide oak it takes 2 seconds to change the world

takes longer to have a pattern... this 2 seconds to change the world how ever small is not a patter i want to make habit of , when i sit down to play osrs the first thing i wanna worry about is does the game have me in the mode i wanna play... yes i can change the world... im forced to if i wanna play osrs.

frail bough
#

official client and runelite both have ways to save what world you load in to

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if it got goofed cause of the updates its a one time fix

tacit wharf
#

weirdge hill to be pissed about

cold kindle
#

its the same

tacit wharf
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acting like these limited game mode scome around every other week

frail bough
#

have you actually restarted your client after the update, cause any weirdness is usually because you dont restart your client

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but yeah id just set a 370 as your favorite world again and call it a day

restive siren
cold kindle
frail bough
#

set your world again and you wont, simple as

tacit wharf
tidal lark
#

i hope you feel that you spent your time wisely

frail bough
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370 isnt even a limited world so idk what they are smokin

wide oak
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i think they're saying, 370 is their favorited world, and when they logged in today, it automatically pushed them to a gridmaster world instead of 370

tacit wharf
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which would be weird, who doesnt changed to their "favorite" world before loggin in

frail bough
#

yeah idk, default world plugin works for me so not sure if it was a blip or what

wide oak
#

real mountain mole hill moment

narrow folio
#

I sympathize, as my homeworld also got converted into gridmaster. I think in the future they should put temp modes on new worlds only. But as they said you can just set a different homeworld for now.

dire mural
#

for zulrah kill does entire thing have to be with bp or just final hit?

gray scaffold
#

fatal error strating runelite - error help

compact flicker
compact flicker
meager pier
median canopy
#

Is there any update on when the games sounds will be fixed on the official client? They broke about 2 weeks ago and just sound wrong now.

In addition the volume of lots of area sounds seems to have 10x, even at the lowest audible setting the fire of nourishment at weiss and wind at harmony island both sound like a jet engine.

I've made multiple reports through different channels and had absolutely no reply.

amber ember
#

weird question, I've got desert treasure 2 completed (gridmaster) but can't access the temple for the ring of shadows?

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just says it's blocked

slender wharf
#

It will be fixed when they have fixed it

median canopy
slender wharf
#

The section with all "mobile-" channels is called "mobile & official client" so I think all "mobile" channels also apply to official client

fallow mortar
#

Any word on when the horrendous lag and disconnects will be fixed ?

#

Had 5 months to prep for this and every world for Gridmaster is disconnecting me every 5 steps

glossy jewel
#

i am getting constant disconnects in ranges of 10-15 minutes. Anybody else experiencing this? 474 and 375 worlds. Internet is okay since I am on voice and no drops there

round lintel
#

So if i want to imbue a slayer helm i cant?

chrome lantern
#

You can

#

I think it's soul wars? Or something

#

Gotta get another person

chilly portal
merry verge
#

My freezes are probably within 10-15mins of each other, but only a couple of the freezes ending up in disconnects per day

shadow wave
half adder
#

Have they said which regions were being added for servers?

sacred skiff
#

Are SW points boosted for imbues? It wasn’t listed on the page, neither was NMZ but surely we can imbue a Slayer helm

shadow wave
#

Zeal should be affected by the 8x minigame point boost

idle rapids
#

So glad they're adding more f2p worlds, I was just thinking "you know what this game needs more of? Suicide bots"

minor whale
#

I mean, they didn't really add more, they took away quite a few and the f2p worlds were literally full because of it

warm laurel
#

is npc contact bugged?

normal:
npc contact -> click person you're calling -> wait
now its :
npc contact -> wait -> click person

gleaming karma
#

whose oversight was it to not add 1) a way to filter grid worlds or 2) an icon showing people are on grid like they did with leagues?

#

$15

wary bolt
#

When Will the HD update release?

tacit wharf
#

when they announce it

idle rapids
#

Bot farm owners popping champagne rn

small anvil
#

And the change was just balancing that back

#

Or smth

tacit wharf
#

didnt they also convert a few f2p worlds to members back during the big player explosion last month as well?

idle rapids
#

We don't need those worlds back they're just full of suicide bots

small anvil
#

Jagex wants people to try out f2p grid into real f2p players

#

Idk if they're bots or not

#

But that's what the thinking probably is

#

I don't pay attention to world pops to say if there's a surge timed with grid

idle rapids
#

Yea but apparently bot farm owners can just complain on reddit and get more f2p worlds made

small anvil
#

I mean idk if you can confidently say it's bot owners complaining

#

Real f2p people do exist

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Jagex keeps f2p around cuz it's a pipeline into paying

#

If it's an awful experience that people can't even get into then it isn't doing its job

idle rapids
#

I don't see anyone in the f2p discord complaining about that

small anvil
#

I didn't know there's a f2p discord tbh

idle rapids
#

its called "f2p skilling methods"

small anvil
#

Ace suggested worlds were full

#

I don't know anything to contradict that

#

But if worlds were actually at or close to capacity

idle rapids
#

They are full and thats a good thing to me, means we're at capacity for suicide bots

small anvil
#

Jagex making some worlds f2p isn't crazy

#

We totally get suicide bots in membs too lol