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Leagues lookin ahh outfit
its full barrows
Chuna Po Taylor Swift Toes are fine to use with eternal sus.
my mage gear is WAY funnier rn
Then if you already had access to potatos you're obviously gonna use them over sharks
idk i thought maybe they were slower or something
i have never done combo eating before
3 scepters ๐ i just want the rev bow
Moreso think they were asking if it had any downsides such as tick slowdown, or an easier comparable food vs. access to get.
First thing I did was to answer the question lol
Click potato-then click karambwan is all a combo-eat consists of in this case.
47 deep delves, 185 total delves, no uniques. Doom's drop mechanics are too complicated for me to know exactly how unlucky this is, but I'm annoyed
i had to go to 44 delve to get a drop
was going for vestige but got a weird dog instead
thing
How many KC are you on?
78
Oh grats
im so full of awakeners orbs i will literally never use
Cant wait to fish anglers for 5 hours for 99 fishing oh boy I love fishing so much
just endless harvest karambwans

Anyone know why minion stops putting items in looting bag after a while? Even when they're noted
someone help me decide my next pact
I seriously regret going for the all zenyte task. 2 drops in 450 kc 
Are you going knives? If so keep building out thorns
Thorns capstone and the healing ones near it are legit good
bruh, how do you finish this penguin task?
trade ya for a spare monkey tail
i was thinking knives but idk between that or crossbow
keep going thorns imo
i'm pot committed to knives so far
I have zero tails as well 
I can trade you 3 heavy frames or 8 light frames
yeah?
Thorns early is really strong. You can also always re spec later if you decide away from knives
its early combat xp too
in all 3 styles
just put on controlled wep and let a bunch of enemies slap you in multi
idk why anyone went gem crab when for 1 point you could giga-level your combats
damnnnn
with only the first throns node you can get >1m xp an hour in all your combat skills
how??
i maxed my atk/str/def just standing in sulfur nagua territory lol
sooooo anywhere i can get body rune pakcks?
doesnt tal teklan have them
go to any multi area poke everything pray if you have kandarin then you can go to mm2 caves
will check ty!!
get obby shield from yaramya
not sure then
does anyone know if perfect araxxor 2 CA can be cheesed in leagues?
Not sure why you need the packs either though
less click = happy camper
actually yeah body rune packs dont exist
Hot damn echo hunleff on mobile is zero jokes
of course I get the only virtus piece I already have
Cursed
[[ death altar ]]
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Death_Altar
Alternatively, the Death Altar can be entered from the dwarven camp in the Underground Pass. This is also a way to enter this area if you have forgotten to rotate the mirror when exiting through the ruins. The run takes around 2 minutes and doesn't require a Crystal trinket, but does require completion of Mourning's End Part II.
Make your way to the western entrance to the Underground Pass. (Teleport to Lletya or Prifddinas.)
Go down the well.
Make your way to the lower level (either by falling on a jump or by making it to the stairs at the southern end of the map).
Go to the dwarf camp in the south-west corner of the map.
Descend the cave in the south-west corner of the dwarf camp.
is this the way
Use a spell on them like confuse that draws aggro, stack them all up at once, and use a few chins on em
wooo zuk task
any mith dragon grinders
does ranged echo fail melee doom ca?
never
they've stated they will not be changing any pacts for the rest of this league
lame
lame indeed
a crafting kinda night
yay
Anyone able to help with fightpit diary?
i can if you still need
i found someone! thanks tho!
i hated this one 
ranged echos fail doom ca cool
that feeling when your first drop is a paper weight
lets GO!
wot the hell
i cant
i guess a small tip I can give for perfect 2, use the devil's element. it will give you a dps boost with elemental weakness, so you have more control over timing
it's not as much of a pain in the ass as I thought it was but it sucks
sounds like pain lol
it wasnt very fun but I got a lot of mid tier bosses done
zulrah, sire, grotesque, spider
perhaps
anyone wana dosome yama runs
i heard the next quest to the vampyre series was coming soon
comes after leagues
thats where maggot king is
drops new bis crush spec weapon
its like dragon claws but crush
and also bis ranged necklace
The necklace of rupture is an upgraded variant of the necklace of anguish requiring 90 Hitpoints to wear. It is intended to be made by combining the necklace of anguish with an etched alpha venator tooth, with an untradeable non-etched alpha venator tooth being a drop from the Maggot King.
Im gonna mainscape after I place on poe ladder
@tawdry carbonhttps://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Crimson_kisten
crush spec weapon
its claws but crush
i mean we have like
uhh
ivandis flail that dangles
so i guess we have this now
i stil lwant raids 4 megarare to be the mega salamander
okie dokie 
hows your point tally going mimi
that would be interesting however im anti salamander all in one weapons i rather it optimize in one style
oh i have 50k ish
But the thing is i absolutely want a chomp setting
Do they hang down low can u swing em to and throw
this is what i want as a crush megarare from tfa
how cool would it be
if we had a pair of gauntlets to beat the shit out of mobs
lol
I hate gloves
inb4 its a dagger that works as a reverse scythe
multiple hitsplats on 1x1 enemies
weak on anything bigger

id love like where ur character will like go left right hook left right hook
they should give us something that scales dmg with defense
make justi useful
type shit
lfg boys we RAMPING
i just think a punching style weapon would be cool to have
cause we dont have those yet
we have swords scythes bows , staves
personally id make the gaunlet ride up the player character's arms
Like u still wear a weapon but he just sheathes it "for pvp intel"
so its like Vi's gauntlets from league but guthix themed
i stand by giant lizard
Idk if itd be good to have a pair of gloves that compete with actually wearing a weapon tho
Ic
TBH
Thats fine then
i rather a helmet and we headbutt things
Im down with that
i love fisticuffs
and seeing how its punching u could technically make it crush
its perfect
imagine full inq while u beat the shit out of nightmare

my god imagine a new bis for nightmare and you just beat the shit out of her
with giant ass gloves
๐คฃ
its a mega tho
so
its gonna be like 1.3b at least
long term
fist rebuild
๐
my scuffed mage setup is somehow now even more scuffed
Oh ye this is leagues
Idk if im still playing
Revs is such a omega grind i cant be assed touching it
Ans besides, i got a switch now
i was almost considering quitting
So im back to playing my beloved darkest dungeon
Dboots are bis for mage tho
ive slowed down
im just skilling
im perma stuck with broodoo as my bis mage shield since i didnt go wildy i think
are u desert?
desert has [[elidinis ward]]
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Elidinis'_ward
wildy has arcane spirit shield
Fally shield is better
is it?
No

Dfs is
this is ur only option
The tome of earth is a book held in place of a shield that is a possible reward from the Hueycoatl. The tome of earth requires level 50 in Magic to wield.
The tome can be charged with soiled pages to act as a source of earth runes whilst equipped. Each page adds 20 charges to the tome. It can hold 1,000 pages and requires 1,755,000 to fully char...

and its not even that useful
i said shield
oh shield
I'm assuming they want pray for air mage
u said magic shield
thats the only mage offhand
That's pointless with pacts.
otherwise u can only use tank shields
i said. Shield. as in shield with magic bonus
then only wildy and desert
Your better off going dfs
i am not tanking -10 magic attack
Actually the defensive bonuses might offset that since thorns
If you have pacts that's nothing
You can literally have full torva , dfs, and ahrims robe skirt and have 100% accuracy
That's only 40 mage bonus
As long as you have +30 you will hit fine and then have thor ns shread
Especially if you have confliction gauntlets then you can have -25 and still hit 90% of the time
im sitting at 24 points and specced into waterthorns i dont think this is true outside of a 35+ point build
Why everythjing looks like red
Have you grabbed the +50% accuracy pact?
Also you will hit fine on basically 90% of stuff unless you are fighting something with insane magic defense like vard or tob bosses
i dont think so?
elaborate
i dont have insane accuracy but i hit pretty okay on some tob bosses notably sotetseg and verzik
with mage
Red tint
theme
The shield is strange too
glamour
Go get grind shitty doom, if it gives you trouble stop at floor 4, you still have chance for rares.
Once you get confliction gauntlets everything will melt
You made it yourself?
Looks good but maybe if the shield had like more textures would be better
shrug
is it best to use dclaws n soulaxe at vardy?
Then you shouldn't have gone mage build lol if you don't want to put in the effort to make the build work
i am doing what i want to do im not sure why youre attempting to coach and/or berate me here
Do you have the shadow quadrant yet?
nop
Work towards that then
Will also boost your dps a ton
i am fully aware of what bis is and what i Should bee going for but i am going for what i Want to go for for the record
I would also recommend using the offhand untill you get confliction gauntlets because the weakness bonus will help with lower tier gear
i already have tormented so im not exactly that far off
Sealed away forever
The confliction gauntlets have a massive accuracy passive that's why they are so important, not the raw stats
ill get to them when i get to them
if ur not thorning then why not use shadowflame with devils
i Am thorning
oh
Do you have 1 tick powered staff? I would recommend whisper over vard for virtus because vards virtus drop rate is ass for some reason
im doin vard for virtus 
Oh my god, that Clue Contract teleport seems consistent. That's -hilarious-.
do i need to repeat myself of I'm Doing What I'm Doing
I'm 600 vard kills in no virtus. I wish you luck
i appreciate the thought but the help is unwanted
im 115 in with the robe top and mask
i think ill probably be okay
Spooned
before i continue my virtus grind though its 200m thieving time
this is mines
Lol wtf
Virtus is 1 in 650 leagues... Y'all spooned
virtus is 1/217 with the 5x boost
my rng Has been absolutely nuts this entire league though
see: the 3a from an elite
which even at 2x is still like 1/120k
i should probably throw myself at hmt and let people carry me for free shit
i dont think i actually Need any of the megas or tob drops? but
i guess justiciar could be good its better than the barrows im rockin rn i think
yea
i think theres also tasks for all of the tob drops too? so probably still worth my time
elites not masters but still good points
Do the echo bosses have increased drop rates or do they have the normal boss drop table plus the echo item?
the latter
Gotcha, thanks.
For Gauntlet specifically, it's still better to do Echo though since there's no prep time?
Yes
why is this showing when there arent enough tasks in my regions to complete it

If youโre just trying to grind confliction gauntlets and you can consistently go to like delve 12, is it better to spam 4s for time? Or keep going to 12
just keep goin deepah
come join the niddlas
i DO need the boss pet task still
I don't even have Kandarin unlocked ๐คฃ
Literally impossible
Unless you have like
varlamore only
nice
How did you get it?
How long did it take lol
i was lvl 90
so since that msg till now
๐คฃ
gz
Butler gives a fully passive 240,000 crafting XP per hour ๐

probably bee able to use the diamonds from the last 50mil in my 200mil thieving run to get me a couple of levels
soon..
got bored, went back, got my second and third ring drops in 17 kills
gzzzz
tyty
the overwhelming desire to kill someone at the spot I want
i just realized if i rush wildy i can get an insane power jump lol
all the pacts are free
i can start speccing into ice crossbow after this
man I'm gettin REAL tired of minion not putting things into my looting bag sometimes
I think what's happening is that once all the slots fill up it just won't try to stack stuff in
i am confused how the minion's value thing works, like i set the value to 90 coins and its picking up bones which have a value of 1
it checks the high alch AND ge price
bones g.e price is 29gp
so it should still not pick them up
the only thing it has ignored so far is grimy tarromin
which has a g.e price higher than 90 xd
idfk weird
maybe im doing something wrong
The imp doesn't like you
yea :(
tbh it's not perfct for me either and i dont remember where I heard it
i just collect everything because otherwise I miss out on clue scrolls
the minion should have more granularity over what it picks up
I am confused regarding prayer. Do I just bury bones for a bit till I can use bone shards?
probably yea i dont rly remember what i did
tf so now it picked up 3 elite scrolls then stopped picking up more lol
this is buggy af
wonder if the looting bag is screwing with it
guess ill just leave it on pick up everything
the only thing its ignoring is grimy tarromin and only sometimes elite clues wtf lmfao
Is there a meta location to farm soul shards at?
peak gaming
killing other players at callisto
hey you can't do that
murder is illegal >:(
is it better to use devil's element to take advantage of mith drag's earth weakness or shield to take advantage of thorns?
yeah i just dont know which does more dmg
good to see the top flash games haven't changed for like 13 years lol
rip adobe flash
I used to play learn 2 fly in the computer lab at school so much lol
good times
I swear the increased chance of unique loot out of Shades of Mort'ton chests comes directly out of the drop slots for redwood logs.. -_-
NOW we're gaming
Two zealot pieces and a Bloodbark recipe scroll, and not a single fucking redwood drop yet.. I've even gotten three sets of Gold Locks, which I don't even think are boosted and are rarer than Redwood Logs out of Gold Chest Reds..
if it makes you feel better, I had the same thing happen to me in main game
got bloodbark, swamp bark, and several gold locks before redwood logs
In the main game I could just go to Kourend and chop them myself..
what no transmute does to a mf
I just need one log to upgrade my Quetzal Whistle..
that's what I needed it for too LOL
I even have the blueprint already..
On 23 total rumors..
There's no Sherlock step for burning Urium remains, so it's not like I need them for anything else..
It's just the whistle..
I'm going to end up going through so many of my magic logs that I'm not going to have enough to finish my 50M fletching grind at Totems..
ending tonight by bumping my draconic visage dry counter up from double rate to x2.5 rate
at this point I may just go to corp and cross my fingers
Here i got something thatl make u feel better
exploding you with my brain
Kongregate was so cool
yeah, I grew up with coolmathgames for the most part
1200kc and no monkey tail is making me so sad
1316 i got one, just had to complain
1360 for my second one. lesson learned if i need a drop i'll just complain here
Rune achieved ๐
gz! im getting there myself
i need to get pacts and upgrade my bandos
right. Channel the dragonborn. get that visage.
mooooore
didnt work. l
i set this for the forestry basket and i forgot.....
how do u deal with the ice phase in solo nex? when i switch to a crush weapon to attack the icicles when she freezes me, nothing happens and i just take a huge amount of damage and can't heal up enough before she does it again
Prob 400 teaks by varlamore hardwood tree
maples?
have u tried nemus retreat in auburnvale?
on world 666?
maples by the auburnvale bank are rarely busy
teaks are a good shout
it's a bit early tbh
9am on a sunday morning xD
fake runescape players
thats funny, i hopped world and needed to bank pin to collect vale offerings
i might never get this task HAH
how do I go about getting a BA group going? on world 666
anyone got a good crossbow pact setup? i dont have wildy for kings barrage.
Dont others have to free you instead?
if you pray range it halfs the damage
i see
tyyyy
I mean there is only one crossbow branch? Just pick that one with the best crossbow available?
im free from revs forever
(until next time)
Am I stupid for not knowing what region I should unlock after Karamja?
kan
Nope. Pick what you want to do.
Seems to be ez pz melee training
Kandarin unlocks the best build in the game, but it requires investment with slayer levels
kan will give you a free ride with the echo staff
today
Best build being?
we train sepulchre
Waterr/Thorn?
this is gonna suck
yep
Best is technically air prayer in terms of raw dps
Haven't seen that one but cool
Thorns water is super braindead afk
I do not like thinking, myself
Water thorns sounds up your alley lol
I feel like I am way late to leagues. Didn't even plan on joining to begin with
Haven't played since Twisted
Never too late. We're halfway in
At the very least I got what I came for: enough points for slayer helm recolor. Now we just vibing I guess
So you'd recommend Kandarin, zoom through melee xp with Thorns in the maniacal catacombs and then do slayer?
Something like that?
It's a good plan.
I brought chins for range exp as well
I'd recommend playing what you enjoy. If that's water thorns, then yes. Skill into thorns first then water second and pump those slayer numbers
The guide I followed suggested 99 hunter before unlocking Karamja even
99 Hunter is quite fast if you do rumors
Faux had a step by step on how to build a good block list so it's only moon moths late game
In his text pastebin guide
moonlight moths and antellopes from my experience
If you woodsman your 10-25 rumor task, you'll have seeds for 99 farming and will get 99 Hunter as well
I have 100x more seeds than I know what to do with thanks to woodsman lol
I just grinded chugging barrel. Now for outfit
I have never done hunter rumors
I've only been short on calquat and mahogany seeds
Varlamore is new to me
Made this account in october after 4 year break, got overwhelmed and didn''t play till march. The iron is a very early game still
It's slayer for Hunter. Talk to the master. Get a task. Complete the task and get a sack of rewards.
Yee
Gg. I did 1k black drags in wildly with no luck.
would someone with wildy be willing to help me out
How so
can i cast surge on you at fountain of rune to regen wrath runes
I would help but I'm in bed on mobile lol and heading to sleep sorry.
rip
can anyone assign me corp for slayer?
No
Do you have access to sinister offering?
do echo boss kills not count towards kc for the normal version?
For cg they did
that worked, thank you
what is the ranged attack from nex that does 50
like the basic one
i cannot tell if its ranged or mage as i get hit anyway
ive been trying both 10+ attempts
what dragon spot's the best for afk farming visage?
what regions do you have
kourend, wildy and kandarin
kbd probly
oh damn
I am once more confused, regarding hunter rumors
Initial Setup (Level 46): Turn OFF Back to Back in your settings. Grab a task from Cervus and Ornus before speaking to Gilman.
Back to Back?
there's an npc behind the bar, talk to him to enable back-to-back rumors
or disable them
Ah
it makes it so you can get the same task back to back
why 50?
for barrows, did we determine if we needed to get the potential chance to 100 or not for barrows drops?
100 zulrah kills left... can someone turn on my drops? I need visage and pet
know a good spot to stand in here to consistently aggro all 3?
would probably need a goading potion or something
and i'm way too lazy to go and get that lol
it's magic magic sfx it has to be
is it phase 2, shadow phase?
the closer you are to nex the stronger she hits during that phase
weird
standard attack
after 3/4 melees
(all the yt videos suck)
so just doing it myself
i still dk the ice prison
i think i just food that one
and try take less damage elsewhere
cause i know content sometimes doesnt care like cerb ghosts just take prayer with no counter
like what is this phase one ranged
i cannot tell if its ranged or mage
neither seem to work
someone needs more healing
like it makes a mage splashn effect
but still does 40 dmg
i dk what this garbage is
how is it not mage?
sometimes it works and makes it 0
other times it just does everything
this is dumb
it can melee you if its targetting you
iirc its like 2/3 times she can melee you when facing you and 1/3 times she mages you
I think watching Gurren Lagann infused me with some extra power. 16.8s pb ๐
time to go farm ranarrs and snape weeds
(jagex need to make Friendly Forager default next leagues)
just give it to everyone
no one wants to farm potion ingredients
Where to I access the hunters' block lists?
should have given us flow state at t7
the hunters
the task each hunter has is the block list
I hope they never do that with slayer
you pray to negate the damage (forget if it's mage or range) then hope someone else thinks to smack one of the icicles blocking you in
you cant yourself?
nope
use a hammer or a melee weapon on the ice to break it
-1 food slot is L
is that real?
doggo dagger cant do anything to it
stab or crush
tob??
To destroy these, use either stab or crush-based attacks; while unarmed players can destroy them via kicking and punching, stab and crush weapons (especially those with higher accuracy like the Elder maul or Osmumten's fang) are more effective and have less chance of failing. Like with the containment special attack, If one is frozen and cannot escape the special attack, praying Protect from Missiles will reduce the damage by half its original amount. A salamander can also be used to free players from Ice Prison, without the need for tar, and will never fail.
I guess it is a thing
does doggo not work?
spaghetti code probly
sustenance is definitely one that should have been a relic tier passive instead of a whole relic
yeah, that was tough to not pick
Zulrah needs to drop this visage before I hit 300 kills or I'm gonna riot
i got vesige and 2nd fang same kc
UGH thorns is breaking a CA again
cant do this one
and dogger randomly does magic damage
so cant use my normal weapon
and have to take off my shield
and not use my thrall or minion
thorns is melee damage tho
she does a magic attack
oh it's getting reflected
do i have to use dh for this?
you tried without minion, suffering, echo boots, and using a whip instead of dogger?
basically yeah
oh green zulrah has -45 magic defence, that's why I get all my pbs on consecutive greens
i just cant survive against hjer WITHOUT the shield equipped
it's so much damage
like 50s
even with minions all dead
it's like 45s
praying magic with bandos equipped
do u have access to a halberd
is there maybe a way you could lower your defence level to reduce procs?
defence level is like chance to get hit, same as attack being chance to deal hits
"complete thzaar ket rak's third challenge without anything in your inventory" - will this fail from automatically generated runes of a powered staff?
probly
hmm
its 3 jads tho might as well just attempt and see
tru
try dropping on the last hit
Do we know if theyโre just gonna keep giving us a reset every week
no
if anyone knows that, it's someone on the leagues dev team at jagex
and they don't spend alot of time here
and given they haven't made resets inf already, and only released one in the last update, I doubt they're going to give us a ton more as the league goes on
which is what everyone should have been thinking when they started us with 3 lol
people keep spamming resets when their builds dont work as expected in 10 pacts
ofc you're going to brick yourself and jagex cant keep bailing you out
thats bad deisgn
it was a bad idea for the community it's been presented to clearly, but it's not bad design
being able to brick a temp game mode isnt bad design?
i can do the inferno with nothing but a bronze hally but why would i?
imagine how shit poe would be if you couldnt reset your stats
well poe is actually balanced around the tree
in this case the tree was blanaced around the game
then there should be no issue with us having unlimited resets
we also shouldn't have region locking
but everyone seems to think that's a hot take cause leagues has been doing that for years
You can make some people happy some times and everyone happy none of the time.
yep, no winning even if they did give unlimited resets
But in terms of resets, Iโd be more in favour of having 3 loadouts (so at minimum you can try all 3 attack styles or variations of the same style ) with a sensible timer attached before you can swap between them.
Iโd love to try blind bag, but I still have things I want to grind out with my water mage thorns
they really should have had 3 loadouts
So I will just be waiting till I hit dragon before I do that
Iโm sure they will introduce that for next time
They had 3 loadouts in previous leagues
I thought the pacts were new to this league?
Pacts are, combat masteries arent
I preferred last years leagues I think
Ahhh
You had to do stuff to unlock the combat route you wanted to take
gridmaster wasn't a league, it was just another temp game mode
Raging echoes masteries was designed better for all
but we do need more gridmasters
Demonic pacts werent designed for general public
As a semi-casual player, it requires way more meta knowledge
I'm basically just following guides/recommendations
chasing a 1/64 drop ๐
Which is dumb for a 60 day game mode
Took me a bit too
they tried
I dont think they did.
Well yeah thats leagues
It is a great time to try.
Raging echoes was a great time to try the game mode
it's hard to build things for the general public when the general public doesn't know how not to break things for themselves lol
I mean it got me reinvested, so Iโm happy
do you not think they wanted to try to get wow audience to try leagues by making it easier?
we had a resurgance in players
100% what they wanted to capture
I mean, I have tried things I've not done in main game before
The only thing that RuneScape right now lacks is a better on boarding experience for that demographic
You can create a temp game mode where everyone can be op end game and not have it be rocket science to have a steady build.
got rune axe at 94
General public very clearly couldnt/cant figure it out.
no
it literally fully describes every node on the tree ingame
osrs is a wiki game
you don't even get that much in poe
it is not new player friendly, yet
Hence the onboarding experience needs a revamp
And the default client especially needs a rework
having the general public to be expected to read the wiki is crazy
Source?
I dont want to have to read the pacts every time im trying to unlock something, or watch a 50 minute guide from faix
It's fairly complicated if you're complete new to such systems, and there's certainly much to learn and improve from the current skill tree (and how to approach resets). But, it's hard to actually do it wrong too if you're just a casual player โ just moving in a direction is often enough to become much stronger.
Jagex adding multiple resets all but confirms that
then I guess you don't get to play leagues
cause you had to read the nodes with the combat masteries too
but you can't be expected to read nodes as new player and know what zones has waht gear
if you are entirely unwilling to read just because it is a temporary game mode, this is not the game for you
Except with combat masteries you had 10 choices max
I think folks just expected to be at max power way too quick
And by 6th node you were op.
Was much faster in raging echos
osrs requires planning, it can't be new player friendly well it is not easy
I was op 9 pacts in
it requires knowledge too far ahead
Good for you, im not as good as you almighty osrs god
Ranged was fuckin' nuts last leagues, nice that they toned it down..a bit, for the pacts at least..
and is far too punishing when you don't plan perfectly far ahead
I'm not an osrs god lol. I've been playing for a year
it doesn't affect me, i just want more players
but it doesn't take much critical thinking to figure that maybe I shouldn't run thru all my limited resets day one
I want osrs to be more successful
It is pretty damn successful already ngl
Did leagues VI break another active player record yet?
I know but it can be more
hav enot heard anything about it yet
It's doing the best it's even done because once people get used to the game, they realise it's not wasting their time or progress.
I do think the way the resets were approached was somewhat of a mistake, though I understand it's a difficult balance between facilitating experimentation โ especially in a league with a new build system โ and keeping choices meaningful.
the resets was bad, if you mess up then you have to beat the boss you can't to reset
I still have 2 resets
I beat amox with a barely functional blindbag build
Yeah I feel like we can go without the resets, like give players total freedom over it instead of having them to plan ahead
And you know, customizing builds around the boss you're about to grind
Or give everyone a free undo point daily, something like that.
If the UX of filling a tree is simple enough, switching it all up on a boss-to-boss basis isn't much of an issue.
That's good, yeah
ranged is still about same as before if you went crossbow in this league
Crossbow still good without wildy?
yes, zcb would be been a lot more dps than king's barrage if they didnt stop the special from proccing echoes for some reason
Good to know good to know..
ik that generally when training melee, str > atk because more max hits is more xp, but in the very early levels, is it better to rush like 60 for drag weapons?
Im also going for a crossbow + thorn as my 1st build rn
I didnt either, but i expected at 20 points to not have to do content normally like fight caves, or amox, or stuff like that. By 30 i should have been able to beat almost anything minimal effort. And by 40 it should be ggs.
king's barrage has the benefit of healing if you went 9 points into water mage tree
See what you are saying you should have experienced was my exact experience with watermage and a couple of the earliest thorns nodes, not even proper thorns
Did not experience that what so ever. But if you didnt go a specific way to start, you had a rough time.
Frankly I can just reset and go waterthornslop and destroy the whole thing but that's kinda boring
imean i didnt really plan early on, I just kinda went "huh... that water tree looks great, loads of healing... guess ill send that"
and by the time the first week was over and id done that, i found out waterthorns was meta 
I sent water mage first. Wasnt doing any damage to some of the other bosses.
Thats why I grabbed the basic thorns node and a dragonfire shield
that was probly an issue with gearing and not having enough accuracy nodes
it costme like 13 pts or something
i didnt need to hit, just cast water, regen runes, pray half right, and they would kill themselves
fall asleep and win type gameplay
early water thorns you couldn't go full tank gear cause you'd lose too much accuracy and couldn't hit anything
Im interested in going for a earthmage build next and take all the defence nodes
Have anyone tried that?
same issue last league even if you went 6 (max) in mage you couldnt hit bosses that have high magic defence unless you had shadow
I went zero thorns. I went full water mage because i expected i could out heal pretty much any dps if i prayed right.
Thats why nobody went mage ๐คฃ
You have to pick thorns too because there are those nodes that allow you to heal from thorns right?
see when i say early on, i mean like i didnt even have more than "shields hit 3s on things that hit you", and "0.1% blah blah blah when shields are equipped"
i had full water tree, no extra acc, and that
probly didn't help that early mage gear was the vestments from clues
and i just vibed until shit died
Yes, and if you just click on the end node, it avoids that thorns node.
Sounds like a brainpower issue, ngl
like all youre saying is "i didnt do any dmg because i didnt take the right nodes, and i didnt take the right nodes because i clicked one capstone at the end of a tree and the wiki guide didnt generate the best possible setup. I dont wanna read, just gimme"
melee is really the only one that was weaker in this league but melee also had strong start with blindbag if you knew what to use with it
Its a, i dont want to have to think in a game mode designed to be op
You nailed it on the head
You didnt need to think, there was no complex planning
a cursory glance at what some stuff does tells you all you needed to know
this isn't a game you can go without planning for
planning as in knowing what you want to go. Like in every single league before
Didnt have a fun time
a basic mouse over of nodes within say 2 degrees of your immediate unlocks gets you everything you want in any direction, you literally just have to say "oh wow, a new system, wonder what it does?"
I mean mobile. So no mouse.
you tap em on mobile, whine less win more
I prefer figuring things out myself but if you don't want to think there were plenty guides I'm sure
there's a toggle for showing the info on mobile
Cry is free buddy
gridmaster only one where you didnt need to plan build since you could use everything
this is a braincell issue, not a jagex did wrong issue, gg gl next league
youtube was drowning in guides like a full week before the league even dropped, yeah
It's exactly in that great place where you have the choice to either apply think or let someone else do the thinking, imo
maybe more, but thats when they flooded my recommendations 
yeah that was great cause the actual good players could make guides with all the early realase info
but there was still me as usually shinying on the melee build I thought was gonna be op 
Im fairly confident they will keep the underlying system, even if they dont call it demonic pacts exactly
surely too much work went into this to scrap it immediately, right?
I hope so
I'm also pretty sure Grid Master was a precursor to that they'll be alternating leagues with choices and stuff and just plain OP all around modes
it is either similar system or they will completely remove choices and everyone can use everything which i doubt
Also, might be an unpopular idea, but i wish theyd keep 1 league world open in each region until the next league. Pts and stuff stop at the expected time, but for the ppl who might not have time to try everything they want, let us keep going
So the next temp mode around might be more in this direction even without guides
Without* Kour, is there a good place to get poison ivy seeds? Killing tree spirits as that seems like the best option.
they NEED to do another gridmaster
I miss it
do farming contracts give extra seeds in league?
I dunno, just says the best place is the medium seed bags.
With how fast low level plants grow, plus league 5x speed or whatever it is, could wrack up hella
But I don't have access ๐
isnt farm guild in kourend?
Sorry meant without*
I didn't like it myself, but that honestly just means it's working, that they got two different kinds of gamemodes for two overlapping but different audiences
Not your fault, mobile is killing me
from a fresh acc, what are some of the fastest ways to get a diamond to get into the dragon weapon shop in zanaris?
transmute
probably magpie implings
oof
you can transmute uncut gems
oh seems like eclectics also give 1 diamond at 1/100 rate
Finally got my seed!
whats a good way to clear nex tasks?
Kill nex
solo/small group/team/ffa?
Depends on the task, but small commicative groups
cant you do gem mining for a diamond?
yeah
10 kills till 300 zulrah. please jagex, I just need helm.
Truly a scholar and a gentleman
yeah but that comes later
but you can just camp some impling spawn like young implings for that
instead of hunting yeah
rn i just wanna afk gemstone crab with a light weapon
fresh acc
dds
hence the diamond
iz
now how many of you do I need to sacrifice to Zulrah to get visage on the next kill?
lol
keep it going lad
you'll def go dry on a few things in leagues and seems zulrah chose you for one of them
if I could trade any of this it wouldn't be so bad
i think something may be wrong with your calc lol
wdym 7m loot when u have like 5 blowpipes n stuff
ig its your punishment for pulling 2 enh seeds
proud of you
as long as you remembered to pick up the visage first 
minion so it was in my inv
and I was outside the instance so I don't even need to go back to collect my stuff
nice
did someone understand how the minion loot value works? it's so unpredictable
I set it to 2100 and it picks up fucking pirate boots?
Value 350 coins
High alch 210 coins
Low alch 140 coins
???
That's a general complaint sadly
I gave up with that almost immediately cause it just doesn't work
Sadge
I can always drop stuff I really don't need
Alright I am doing something wrong with my hunter rumors
I am trying to set up block lists but X hunter changes his task even if I complete Y's task?
impossibru
Teco keeps giving me Sunfire moths despite me getting a task from Ornus
have you been keeping a precise log of the tasks?
Anyone available for fight pits dairy task
so far no dupe tasks
Great idea, wouldnt say unpopular at all. I felt same way. Youre almost rushed in a sense








