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Ha no!
Then yes, its highly likely that I could do most bosses easier than you, even with a lesser build. Its nothing to be ashamed of, it just means Ive got more practice before the league
what area's did yall get for magic as the last 2
I have 0 investment into magic
I went kandarin morytania and then i havent decided my 3rd yet. Im a thorns watermage, the most common build this league it seems, and kand/mory gets me BiS all gear slots i think
i magiced colloseeum and right now doom
Kandarin- range neck.
Desert- masori+ring
Wildy-web weaver
Youre doing a bow build?
i thought they meant boss areas
I know webs far from bis. But i love it. And leagues makes u strong so i get let the power of league segway my fave item into doing the content it can otherwise only dream of
areas for magic is kandarin and morytania for sure
Not really. I respecced into melee thorns, and its carried me pretty mucb all the way
I just plan on respeccing again at the end to get my ultimate goal of the whole league done
Inferno
Ah I was curious because I havent seen anyone do it yet, havent really looked at them myself either
Unfortunately its just not close to bis
But its still alot stronger than main, so im happy to do it
well no, tbow would be
T bow stinks
but you dont need even close to bis to do all content in league
Its tick delay is way more impactful with the 1 tick bow reduction
33% instead of 25%
Oh is that what bows get? 1t faster shooting speed?
wonder how that players with venator bow
Bows get way more than that
But thats a node
Bows end up dealing about triple damage
Flask or minion? Minion seems more convenient, flask seems more fun. I am thorns build.
But no thorns so it almost gets negated
Id suggest looking into current bugs with flask. Theres a lot of content where its not working as intended atm. Ive seen a few youtube videos discussing the issues, but dont have a list on hand to provide examples
Ive been planning flask all along, now im not sure
why mort
just curious
Minion is reliable dmg
Noooooooooooo
i was gonna go desert and then idk about last
And also he picks shit up for u, which is nothing to sneeze on
desert is good for magic i think
Loads of bug with flasks? Good to know... Ill check it out
how rare is pet?
Why would that be?
If you are a thorns watermage, which is the go to magic build, you can get the tankiest armor in the game, barrows for mid-league armor, some other neat stuff
minion also notes the drops it picks up, which makes for alot longer slayer and boss trips
Stonks
i am on my alt actually and im trying water-air thorns haha
only if you go for the powered staff attack speed build
Kand-Mory gets you bis all gear slots for waterthorns
idk what to do for last area
mort then for last?
The drop rate is dependent on the player's performance in the raid, unaffected by that of teammates, ranging from 1/650 to 1/6,500 in regular raids and ranging from 1/500 to 1/5,000 in Hard Mode raids
Is there supposed to be some sort of predictable pattern for the guardians lightning phase? or is that perfect II achievement impossible?
two corners are always empty
what does mort have for that build that is good
so a 50/50 chance of getting it
dharoks armor or torag, easy early game
again?!
the dps calc doesnt include thorns dmg, how did you calc it?
cant you dodge all damage from this boss?
this does work with thorns
i have some runs where i dodge well
but i cant seem to do it over and over
i am trying to work out the differences
short steps?
Long ones?
it spikes up in dps when thorns proccs
this echo?
you probably click too early
So does my hit estimater. But its wrong. If the DPS counter uses your xp drops to track your dmg dealt, which I would expect it to, then the leagues multipliers throw everything out of whack
Running too early?
Yeha i wouldnt be surprised
For example, this thinks I meleed a 384 when thorns procc'd 
1000 spikes coming at me is scary
not sure how the hit estimater plugin is coded
Hey guys, just unlocked my 2nd area, have a thorns/watermage build going, what should are should I go for next? I have Varlamore, Karamja and Asgarnia
Neither am I, and im not saying your wrong
kan
you need the echo weapon from it
Just pointing out that plugins made for the main game might be impacted in strange ways by leagues effects and maths
but the fact that it did NOT give a stupidly high dps and slowly increased as i switched armor should say enough
Thank you
time tracking apparently works for the adjusted farm ticks
kandarin
so that was a ncie discovery
btw, since you need 93 slayer for thermy, do gwd bosses. kree was giving me 85k a kill at t7 relic
you're pretty much required to take Kandarin for water thorns because of echo thermy
Sooooo close 
i tested ahrim, with full focus on magic damage and dharok and a mix of torag and guthans and it looked reasonable
Fuck i still cannot decide haha. Flask seems to be able to help me so much with bosses I cannot beat for example awakened vardorvis, but minion seems so convienent for like everything else
Now which is better?
do flask
flask
i took minion, the immunity from flask is better
do minion
minion is also fucking bugged on a lot of fights
Personally i think the utility of minion is a lil too late
So flask better
wdym full focus on magic dmg? You wouldnt compare your melee tank armor with a shield and such to ahrims with devils element and occult neck and just no tank stuff 
awakened vardovis is the hardest boss in my regions for me, but doom is also pretty tough for some reason
pvm flask free 2nd life
Thats apples and oranges
That's a fair point. My current goals are raids and bossing...
Okay that point convinced me. Thanks all'
Ye, i mean its nice to pick up some random garbage but atp do u really that much content that involves picling up random garbage
Go flask. You can get ammo auto-loot in main game through your avas device, its not meaningfully different gameplay.
Turning yourself into a temporarily immortal nuclear bomb, however, is entirely new content
I've done it. Choice is locked in. Thanks!
You picked T8 relic, time to retire and never test it properly
Xd
It is tradition
Quick, delete ur account
We pick T8, and then we retire from burnout
Minion lets me afk harder cause itll auto loot the drops i want
right guys i've got 32k points, time for haunted mine
But flask is very very cool
I am 150 abby demons into this task, where is my whip Jagex
@austere mirage I had to respec, kept full thorns and added 1 extra hit for my whip but realised what I did wrong, I didn't have enough accuracy or rune regen on so now my trident even with full bandos always hits and heals me a fkn lot
It's great
oh lets see your tree
DM me ill post for you with a ping
oh that works too
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The famous afk build
is that magic?
Sorry, up until 28 not 29, but yeah thorns still hits hard, pray regen and now trident constantly heals me
Yeah, the full build give you 145% to regen runes which gives you the healing on trident, 290% accuracy across the board, defence boost and overhealing too
im tempted to try something like this xD
And for when I need to melee, my whip hits twice but the second hit only does 40% but it's free damage
@torpid trench i tested ahrims, tormented bracelet and occult neckflace vs dharok with a fury and a lunar ring an regen braclet so one is soley focused on keeping magic damage up while the dharok setup was purely just as much defensive stats as i cuold, No offence and it still has higher dps when i focus on defensive stats
This is what i got so far
Yeah see thats not what i was saying the use of ahrims is. Its not about magic dmg, ahrims is also very tanky compared to almost all other mage gear, and it gives big magic accuracy bonuses. You still go full tank, with the fury, the combat bracelet, etc etc
Pretty much what I had which is why it didn't do too well lol
that is the current idea
could go with this
https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/tree?name=Chillin%3F
no that is what i am saying, you deal more damage with dharok but more is coming from thorns why i tested with ahrim
more regen, overheal, and accuracy
try it it yourself
Id skip the air part and get more rune regen, accuracy, and overheal
but more damage!
How are you supplying your wrath runes?
........ 
transmutation
ewwwwwww no!
thats not so bad
i deal more overall damage the higher defensiive stats i had no matter how accurate my magic was and kept me alive
once you get 100%+ regen you don't need more wrath runes
Oh look!
Yes, but youll notice that the build he said he was planning doesnt even get 80%
If he's assuming 31 pts is all he can get, then before he goes air, he needs more regen and overheal badly
plus he'll get pray pen if he goes for the 110% rune regen by going to the SE corner
what about that?
https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-112-113-114-122-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-162-163-44-45-46-56-59-60-68-71-72-74-79-81-84-87-93-96-97-98-99 This is my current plan
Plan what you will choose in Leagues VI using our Demonic Pacts tree.
you should take that 30% regen node you're right next to in the mage tree
20-22 ๐ญ
oh i didnt see that
i dont know the numbers are xD
i just thrown down what i want
Is that echolotle or reggy?
at least 2
we don't question the 2
Are there any worlds for Nex spams, or is it jus the PVM worlds?
Checkem
eciN.
apparently there are atleast 2 players that chose Desert, Kourend, and Fremmenik that also chose Grimoire
i think maybe more forget the exact number from the video
Is grim conisdered a pretty shitty pick?
I assume those are 4 least pickeds
yes but they also chose the 3 locations that can get the spellbooks
well with those 3 regions you'd have access to all spellbooks except arceus and you'd be able to get a mage cape to swap between them
Even if i only switched books one time, for the pact point
or just go to the altars to swap
im in kourend and 90% of the time am on arceuus spellbook tbh
Prayers are nicr
Wait
Yeh hold on
Oh but kourend has prayers
Coz ye i picked grim for prayers, couldnt care less about the spell books
all you'd really get from it are the range and mage prayers
kourend is arceus, needs kandarin for mage cape
theyd need max cape for that effect
ah right, wrong k
Yeh but i want the range prayer
too many k regions
And i seem to remember considering it a pretty weak tier overall
What were the other opti9ns
inf food and easy slayer
Was it soul and sus?
Ah slay
Ye slays good. But i dont have a particularly heavy investment in slayer content for my plans
And sus i though sucked, now its my reload
But still. I like grim, i feel fine about my picks overall
again
if i manage to kill Themy Echo i might swap my build over to that afk one and see how that goes
im dead
I rarely use food unless I'm going up against a boss that can out-damage my heals. glad I didn't let myself pick sustenance
I managed to last a full 30 seconds with thermy echo before dying
I thiught it sucked coz i only saw it for infinite healing
I'll try again later today after I wake up
Did you get pass round 1?
no lmao
Woo high five!
i don't see a reason bringing food if you have 188 overheal
if it was something like inf food and pots + like 20% more healing from food it might have been a competitive option vs the slayer relic imo
maybe cox do have situation where you need food if you're not paying attention
Now iv realised its.
Infinite healing, sure whatever. Ig.
But, i dont have to do the ordeal of replacing my food supply -fishing..
And i have to way way the fuck less farming. Coz saras and super restores become kinda useless
I only have one overheal pact so far
So only prayer and stat pots
17?
Like, it takes me about an hour to fill my knapsack twice with sharks
And then there all gone 20 minutes later
you can still triple-eat with hard food + bwan + brew
Its so frustrating, thats the draw of sus for me
high level gathering is so horribly slow in this game in general
lol thats what you get for choose transmute
eh and transmute were really the way to go
and not butler
Well that doesnt reallt do anything for mw either
I have it
butler cooks food for you
I dont have buttler
if you die to the rabbit in priff where does your grave go?
Id still fish, transmute and then give them to him
one hell of a butler
Lmfao
i dont trust the xp/hr but
soul runes
it resets every 2 hours
and pauses after 10 mins of inactivity
so i shouldnt have to
that rabbit is tough
can u enchant an occult necklace?
i stabbeded it
but if you keep your previous activity then it is not accurate anymore
yeah, you have to reset
is it?
well you have your pasused but how fast does it pause?
10 mins of inactivity
and resets auto every 2 hours
so the xp/hr is based off of the last 2 hours of active training
well if you have done any of those skills within 2 hours ,the number is wrong
if not they are correct
then the data shows something different
or not, since you might be underperforming while writing here
im sprinting or mining
only you will know
my flowstate mines fast
eclipse moon scares me
probably 2-3 hours then, somehwere there, you can alawys play more efficently, react faster.
OR just zone out and not pay attention and get distracted by this discord
EXP WASTE
Is it better to kill boss or reg kraken for tentacle drop?
WE are all exp wasting talking here 
when im fishing im just gonna do sporcle pokemon quizzes or smthn
wonder what to do
i do need to do some more eagle fishing for the other pearl fishing rod
and the outfit. maybe.
outfit isnt a task tho
anyone got tips for fastest way to get calquat seed?
i didnt choose tira :C
ye chopping teaks atm
is there a tree that pops nests faster?
oh true good shout
agility afk ring for hotfoot relic still going w400 varlawaystone
Regs are quicker normally. But there is a point task for the boss (and pacts)
the angler set?
yh
but id have to get it from aerial fishing lol
wonder what aerial fishing xp rate is like on leagues HAH
my main
you get 2 with woodsman cause it's technically hunting / fishing
by the time i got the set
i have no idea if it's Woodsman or EH giving two
cause it is fishing
and hunter
why not 3 or 4?
actually
since i was not doing it super efficently
smells worse than you
yeah becasue i was banking my items
to do something else
nothing wrong with the GE
smells there
well, you don't have to be there
i like trading
used to be a core part of the game
god dang and here i though 1/4000 is gonna be a torture
Is there a way to aggro the kraken boss without needing to manually click all 5 pools?
i got lucky
fishing explosive
i got one before 200 pearls
then at 337
437
450
651
i attacked the wrong mobs! oh noooooo!
you can give the fish to him for 100 pearls
theyre good on leagues as you get 2 with the right relics
I Did, that is how i kept track
idk if it's EH or Woodsman that gives 2
could be either
i sold all but one
ofc
12 days i was there
looking at dates of screenshots
i was watching a show on the side
any ways bac kto leagues
struggeling with doom
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well just at the level 7-8
because of his special beam cannon
and the prayer switching all at once
random update, with nmy IRL cooking training. i got my castiron takoyaki tray. gonna learn how to make that. might have to substitute octo for pork / sausage if i cant find it tho
fun
do I need to be on task to kill one of the cave krakens? or just the boss?
Think its just boss
these CAs are odd
the OSRS Kraken always reminds me of octopus / onionsan from undertale lol
Its basically saying
i hate doom
This boss is ass, just sit on it
specially when you have no rocks to hide behind
when do you guys think the rewards from leagues will be buyable from the shop?
After league
Same as always
yes?
like a few weeks in...
my only league before this was RS3 catalyst and they didn't open the shop til after the league
so I assume that's the way they always do it
Thisl almost certainly be my only league
Good time, glad im doing 8t
But never again
?
i got 16k points
varlamore was a good start
thats a horrible take
how many more days until leagues end
is anyone else having the bug where the selected pact points deselect themselves randomly before you can lock in?
easy clues are pretty good money for how quick they are
login to a leagues world and itll say on that screen where it tells you members days
june 10th..
yh leagues is still early
yep, just be patient
it's like only started still
the noobs are just getting going still
Im barely half way to what i wanna do
idk how u guys feel the motivation... gotta make progress in main game..
I believe the word for that is addiction
cute red dragon cup with tiny demon head
Just incase u like, worry about that
there's all the time in the world to play main game. only 2 months to play demonic pacts
isnt dragon trophy only possible if ur a giga sweat doing all inferno and doom CA's like come on i cant do that ๐คฃ
8x soul rune runs to 98!
selected pact points are deselecting randomly every 30 seconds or so. preventing me from locking in. how do i fix this bug?
that's like 400 points out of 95k
dragon trophy is around 70% of total points
Brother inferno and doom are literally sit in middle and go out to a restaurant
Why did no one tell me that i could get a cuppa tea to fix my stats?
Come back to cape etc
i mean you havent tried
air mage and water mage are afk
you only need ~2/3 of the max points avaialble for dragon trophy
Melee ๐ญ
if i did go and crank out the dragon trophy id be set on rewards for a long time....
Why they neglect my boy
dinhs bulwark and venator kits.... those like 10k each
there's already someone with near max points, just missing a piece of the mime outfit for a task lol
Im doint most shit melee
that oathplate slayer helm gonna be tuff
Ill come back to bow later for zuk
boaty already maxed
You can do everything with any build itโs just main game on steroids
Yree
and Faux is already on his 3rd alt
Thats my philosophy, everything is still better than main
Alts on leagues is wild
So im just doing what i want to do. Which is webweaver inferno
im tempted to make an alt
level 3 skiller alt?
but itd be a waste since no cup on main
2 phage 0 cup
you can get alt to last relic and all areas unlocked by playing it around 5 hours and then afking on the side
that you?
Omg its phage
Is this yu-gi-mon
My favourite is pot of greed
round 5 echoes lol
mtg
Wrong game!
why can't I just yeet this fishing explosive right at the center of the whirpool and save 8s of startup per kill
Because interactive gameplay weeee
do i need to kill Eclipse to get armour chance or can i be like "yo mate imma head out"
you only need one moon to get an armour piece
Yo mate im outta here is meta
This is my current pacts should I respec or just go as is for now? https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-135-136-139-140-141-145-44-46-71-74-81-84-96-97
respect?
Look at me i am Meta now!
oh? does it increase chance doing more?
technically yes
U get another roll per boss
Ah okay!
But each boss opens its own loot pool
but if you get a gear piece that's all you get from the chest
seems like 3 people are maxed on points and 4 people are missing 1x 30point task
go bacck to moons after you get thralls / minion
it's either 1/3/6 rolls on the common table or 1 gear piece
if you use demonic grasp on the moon during immunity phases
they can still attack it
speeding up killspeed
even during the eye/shield phase
your minion and thrall will attack it
1.87M RC XP to go
should be able to work thru with that, but you really should have gone more into the mage tree before going out the side of the thorns
you're only 4 points from getting 2t spellbook or 5 points from getting 1t staff heal going
I started out with thorns before the free reset, so I haven't changed it
I'm still on 25 but I've been maxing xD
I can get 4-5 kills on echo amox before I run out of food, just by letting it kill itself with thorns. I imagine ones I get the water spell pacts I will be able to do far more
im dumb and dont fully understand this. what happens if you combine max cape with others? like fire / inferno?
it loses stuff?
it gains the stats and effects of the cape you combine it with and loses some of it's skillcape perks
so it's a downgrade cause id lose the Range Cape benefits
max and ava max capes all have the ammo saving
max cape works as all skill capes, if you add for example fire cape to max it just becomes a fire cape with cosmetic change. It indeed loses all max cape perks
almost all, but you'd be wanting an ava's max cape for ranging anyways since accumulator/assembler are better for range than the fire cape.
and ideally you'd either use a base max cape or a god/imbued god max cape for mage
Hey, anyone here with kourend still need a dragon imp? ๐
There's one near the arc library on 675
but I think you need wildy for those
without fremmenik* your only capes with ammo saving function are ranged skill cape, max cape or quiver
does perdu work in kandarin? doesnt work in any other regions
yeah, he's chillin in catherby
I got mine from perdu in catherby
in other regions the shop is unavailable
kandarin stays winning
yeah, easily
cant get avas if you didnt choose kandarin
i dont have thorns yet
is that before or after unlocking all your areas? perdu in catherby updated for me when I unlocked mory
any build can do deep delves
apparently "animal magnetism" quest is in Kandarin
don't need thorns
that needs to be a global unlock
STILL no redwood seed drop from hard contracts
need so many pack points to get to 100% regen, they really should have given access to the one thing that keeps you from burning thru all your ammo in 5 mins til then
that task might just never happen for me
i will have to do more fletching minigame tho probably
50% ammo save from 1st pact is already duplicating ammo but need to pick them up every 3 min 
need either quiver or minion relic to auto-pickup ammo in most regions
worst case just farm echo hespori
first week playing osrs, awakened levi got hands wtf
guess its a learning curve/prog I gotta get used to with the machine guy prayer swapping
well there's trident for log, now gimme a tentacle....
sire is a joke with pacts
easy, medium or hard clues for zammy items? i need 2 more
i HATE clues so i want the most time efficient
btw, this is the takoyaki thing i got for learning how to make it. gotta go dublin sunday and go shopping for stuff before i try my first
if you have kandarin youcan get 2 zammy items from the mages outside the ourania altar place
no it has to come from clues
not necessarily
I can confirm from first hand experience that those count
When will I be allowed to wear this?
i already have those 3, which is why i specifically said clues
and you could give it a zgs or zammy spear/hasta if you have asgarnia
hards for rune and god d'hide then
One brother got it for me for Christmas lol.
Mfw it's 50 summer sq'irk and not 10
2 more soul runs to 98!
Soul Runes, Soul Runs, get it
joke.
if anyone can guess what this blurry thing is, ill give you a virtual high five
one more to go
about 11 soul rune runs left
is everybody already done getting void in pest control? highest pop world has 0, and the pest control world has 0 people
is there a guide to cheesing a deep delve with leagues?
Got water thorns?
faux has some water thorns bossing advice videos
Stand in melee range with pray melee and hit boss. Try and hit grubs too and just tank the big charge attack
is interesting at the dense runestone mine
because of flow state
my pc doesnt do the chiseling animation
i kinda dont want to reset to get thorns and the same build
just the pickaxe
whats the highest xp/hr without redwoods?
solo forestry?
with EH tho probably willows?
or teaks
solo forestry in basegame forcing Pheasent Events is insanely good xp
I don't think you're cheesing delve then
im a few points off dude
dumb q, where are wryms when ive got tirannnwn/kandarin/karamja unlocked
im using the mory scepter and i still am not getting this "kill 8 penguins in 5 secs" like im killing them in 2 secs
Wyrms are draconic creatures in the lower level of the Karuulm Slayer Dungeon in Mount Karuulm, requiring 62 Slayer to kill. Boots of stone, boots of brimstone, or granite boots must be worn to protect against the extreme heat of the dungeon floor unless the elite Kourend & Kebos Diary has been completed...
Moons
when does the timer restart
if theres info ill take it, even if im not there right now its useful
Yeah, but thorns is a big part of cheesing delve, better to do something else to get those points
how many pact points do you have?
can go here and sort by completion % to see what everyone else has found the easiest
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Tasks
This page contains a list of all the tasks in the Demonic Pacts League. Completing tasks during the league allows players to earn league points and unlock relics and areas containing new content and tasks. Tasks span five difficulty levels: Easy, Medium, Hard, Elite, and Master. Completing a task requires...
But the info is literally "stand in melee range, pray range and hit boss"
Bit more detail is to kill grubs so they don't heal boss and extend fight length
so not having special abilities to cheese the boss in a seasonal event to play like you want to do is what you should do on leagues?
so you should play normally in leagues
if people want to cheese doom, let them
it is only for fun
I think you're misunderstanding
He doesn't have the pact to cheese
He wants to cheese
i know, you telling me this doesnt help in any way
oh
That's why I told him to get the pacts first
30
pcats are important for bossing
you need as many as you can
i managed to get 37
so far
at doom cheesing atm XD
this says it all
so penguins is just bugged ig
That's because the answer you're looking for is "How can I cheese this boss without the pact I need to cheese it"
One step away from my blood fury, just need to clear sins of the father
A lot of things in this bingo are bugged and it sucks
Boss should be killable with thorns right?
I didn't know you could get blood shard without sins done, good to know
i am literally 2 pacts off it now
people are able to know stuff before they can use it
you'll still need the blisterwood weapon
because it's a vampire
No i mean i need to clear it to get the shard lol
And yeah blisterwood is a given
it works
just hold blisterwood flail
does thorns proc off those boulder attacks?
Hold flail, pray mage and dodge right
eh pretty much
i think so
youll still need to know general mechanics b4 enrage
i have not paid attention
Yea I've beat him before on main
got lucky with jekyll spawning while i was doing herb run 
Didn't even have any barrows gear on main lol
yeah in enrage just watch your health
he drains it pretty fast
thorns should be able to kill him b4 you need to eat but you never know if a lightning can kill you
oh yeah my whole cheese is not to make him throw the boulders
that is why i have not paid attentino to it
ah u just stand in melee then
yes
Hello. Im looking to use my first reset to try out Kings barrage. 37/40 atm but I have incredibly easy tasks left (Full barrows, Dagonhai piece, voidwaker etc). Would this be a good tree to spec into for kings barrage? I dont think I need any prayer pen points anymore. I just want to do chill slayer to train my ranged lol. Maybe AFK corp if thats possible? My regions are KMW
https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/tree?share=1dRhA6wMCANDwCwQAPCwREAM&name=Kings Barrage%3F
Wasn't the enrage thing basically just woox walking
eh you can react to the lightning
What's faster without soul shards,
zmi or kourend bloods?
i prefer tagged honestly
i can visualize it myself
makes it easy to setup boulders to control where grubs spawn normally
you're like my one firecape/assembler friend who taught me pvm
get pet
XD
even worse is how they dont let melee punish on death clear acid piss above lv8
i will pay attention now
delve 600 incoming
no i barely make it to 9, i can't switch prayers fast enough
i can't tell if the acid proccs thorns
doesn't look like it
do you think the pokemon god Arceus has anything to do with the naming of Arceuus at all lol. the pronounciation debate still exists which is funny (cause it's the same)
actually for me its different but i think for americans its the same?
for the pokemon i say "Ark e us"
for the osrs i say "Ark Ay Us"
Ark a rus new toy store
wheres the second r come from?
it is different for each game
it's not that deep
just like some people say Aaron and some say A a ron
the point of communication is to be understood
so as long as they understand what you mean i think it doesn't matter that much
4 more soul run(e)s to go
then it's to aerial fishing
get the outfit then afk 94 to 99
idk if i should do Sharks, Bwana, or trout/salmon
For thorns mage should I try go for morytania or Asgarnia ? Leaning more towards Asgarnia for bandos I know justicar is better def but bandos still really good and I donโt have to do sins of the father quest to make a blood fury that way lol.. anyone have any suggestions?
why not Tirannwn, Kandarin, and Desert
gz
ty
proud of you
sins of the father isn't a hard quest
what are the best clues to do for minion zammy items?
best quest in the game (that I've cleared on main) but I'm heavily biased towards morytania
Had a bit of a realisation that it's totally impossible for me to get antivenoms without master clues
inferno should be easy
:) araxxor is gonna be fun
hm yeah
why so
antidote + zulrah scale = antivenom
do you have Zeah?
My regions are ZKM
antivenom+ with addition of araxxyte fang
do you have Larcenry?
Man my progress on leagues is quite slow today
Yea but i don't see how that'd help getting antivenoms?
you need tyrannwin or get coconuts seed
or strange fruit
Oh that's a thing
what i use for zulrah
yep its really neat
eternal sustenance with strange fruit 
nope
abundance is so L at 99
i like it
what does it do when youre at 99?
any relics are fine unless going for max points which only 0.1% players do
i dont think abundance is good for anyone not that 0.1%
it gives me money and xp to get 50M faster
who needs money
i do
and so does EH cause it mines and xps for two at once
well for those skills
eh gives you the xp for both it harvests
abundance best relic for getting fast build online and still very good to reach dragon rank
harvest, forager, map, transmute, larcenist, culling, flow so far
Not sure on minion or fervour but leaning towards minion
Fervour would be better for my regions due to raids though?
flask if pvming
i just find Abundance caps out
minion is mid
last run!
all relics cap out
i like that i can get free money in my inventory
sorry im running thorns + blindbag
wherenever
lmao
all healing perks are specifically written to exclude bow
the only healing we get is the static prayer regen relic
and rapid heal prayer
talks about ruined accounts and runs bow build 
[[nature's recurve]]
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Nature's_recurve
fake
uhhh
joke
typically echo weapons are usually bis but nature's recurve is so mid lol
same with V's helm
cooking with no gas
League's Task: Completed
bury a single bone
only mage has bis echo items
quadrant yep
ok champ
and lets give them an offhand too as well why not lol
bbc bis for xbow too
time to listen to the osrs by release song "bones"
lmao
bury a second bone
its buggy idk then
for sustain yes, loses in dps to zcb
its legit funny how much they coddled mage this leagues
i don't believe that
its rest in peace atm indeed
and gutted ranged
see people using zcb at nex all the time they never mvp over me
melee is gutted tbh
knee jerk reactions are not normal
they took echo away from melee gave it to range
they took fast attack from melee
what did they give back?
literally how can you give favouritism to an echo boss lol vs the others
maybe thye are there with 20 pact points and do not attack things or just afk hit nex 
ah ok so calcing it
i mean
zcb is around .013 dps more
but if you think critically about it they dont get free sustain, therefore have to eat, therefore potentially lose dps, therefore bbc is better ๐ค
there are bugged master clues :S
hot and cold of master clue is bugged they dont show the areas to scout or arrow marks
an achievement that you can only get by avoiding an attack you get less than a tick to react to is such great game design
@grizzled spindle plz fix the master clue hot and cold
just get a clue hunter and tele to it
Sins of the father complete, thorns made it literally zero effort lol
dont work
nop
do you get the slayer helm buff on task for echo versions of slayer bosses?
i have done it
and they dont give me the normal screen what we need to get
lets gooooo
splendid
unconventional smithing solve if anyone needs one - if youve got asgarnia, the aviansie's in gwd drop adamant bars 1/4 so park yourself there with thorns and pick them up or if you have minion go fully afk and let them stack up
best region for water thorns?
all of them
kandarin to actually get a powered staff, morytania also has one but echo boss
There's 2 water thorns, one with elemental water spells and the other with powered staff. First is more healing, 2nd is more dps
Elf land gives you a crystal blessing + armour which makes powered staves very strong
isn't the spell one more dps once you get the echo thermy staff?
along with more healing
My grumpy old man view is that you won't learn many mechanics with water thorns
the clues are not broken jsut the sovler plugin
I don't think so, certainly not at end game pvm like ToB, PNM etc
Nostalgia ๐ฅ
the list of locations does not show up but the clue hunter tele works, only if you manage to get the possible solutions down to 1
people are so used ot the clue solver
dam brudda you all in
you prob reached max before me
while i'm still busy pvming lol
fish sack is useless right
store fish once you combine it
yup useless
with barrel
done here
both fishing rods, and extended to get the outfit
outfit wasnt necessary just the rods
but this will be good for xp hah
yeah but get fish barrel and combine them

so holy sandals come from medium?
Yes.
I need them for devout boots
kourend visitor mhm
i prob should get it too
Well that and air spells
are there any run circles happening anywhere?
so 25 chambers and 31 TOB. 34 combined purples. No mega rare. I have 40 pacts. I guess I am done? Lol
Should they give you one mega rare scroll when you hit 40 pacts? Now it just feels like I am exp wasting.
karams are fast
do need to waste time getting KArambwanji
anyone else having trouble with seeing tasks on wiki?
do you have regions filtered on
open the wiki in another browser
without sync
and then search for the tasks u want
such a weird bug
so about 15000 karambwanji then
peak
yes
time to do some pokemon sporcle quizzes!

