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tacit oyster
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oh they have said there is bug that xp tasks might not complete if you reached milestone in multiple skills at once

fathom turret
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I got my points just now????? I got it last night before bed

tacit oyster
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probably needed to do something for it get it to do the check again, assuming it was fixed

fleet ibex
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Jmod heard your pleas and triggered it manually 🤣

fathom turret
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Just relogged for like the 5th time on mobile and got them when I teleported

tacit oyster
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seems like my other account is missing 25, 35 and 50m smithing since i did crystal teleport seeds for both crafting and smithing

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got all 3 from cutting one gem kekw

austere mirage
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So what armour do i need for a Thorny Mage?

pure karma
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can i cheese tob with thorns?

weary shadow
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I think we are meant to use Crystal if you have the zone, but I've seen people say that you just need to get accuracy perks

high surge
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i need suggestions on melee armour before i start bossing, ive got rune helm/chest/skirt but im not sure what else is accessible to make bosses easier

weary shadow
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Have you taken any talents?

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As with Rune + thorns you can easily do most of the Moons of Perils for their armour

high surge
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talents?

weary shadow
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Demonic Pacts

high surge
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oh, yeah i did, i started as melee but wasnt enjoying it so i reset to mage, but i'll still need melee for some content, thorns is something i was looking at but right now have no points in that area

weary shadow
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How many points have you taken so far? But the moons are still very doable even without thorns (it just makes it easier)

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And their gear is pretty decent to start with

high surge
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ive got 9 pacts so far, 12k points and 4 areas

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i was able to just about kill eclipse with using most of the food 😅

weary shadow
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Eclipse is the hardest, I struggle getting 3 parries so I do 1 and 3 then eat the 2nd

high surge
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really? eclipse is ez, blood moon is going to roflstomp me

weary shadow
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Blood is all about timing really

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but it can be a forever fight if you don't hit that hard

high surge
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blood is the one that scares me and why im looking for good armour for defence to make it less tedious

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that life steal mechanic is brutal

weary shadow
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What zones did you take?

high surge
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tirannwn and kandarin

weary shadow
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Water mage?

high surge
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yeah so far

weary shadow
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Did you kill your black and mith dragons yet?

high surge
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uhh, in what context? ive killed some black dragons, i dont think ive killed a mith one yet, is this for pacts or something else?

polar oyster
weary shadow
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For the pacts, you need to kill 1 black dragon in Tirannwn, 1 Mith dragon in Kand (Ancient Cavern), oh and the steel on in Karamja

high surge
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aaaah ok, i did the steel one so i need to go stomp a mith dragon, which i'll do after this slayer task

weary shadow
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But honestly if you have that you could probs get your fire cape too

high surge
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ive never actually fought jad before even on main, im such a chicken but also the sheer time it takes is just... yikes

weary shadow
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It's so long...

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But same lol

high surge
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the time has put me off the most since i have a baby and could be needed at short notice, and its basically become my permenant excuse even when i have hours to myself 🙃

idle patio
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can anyone confirm whether hydra tail is dropping as bone crusher necklace?

weary shadow
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If you know you have a good amount of time you can probs get it done, but it's nice getting to the point where you can afk on your phone in a private boss and come back to a lot of things

high surge
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it shouldnt be too bad as water mage right, since im healing at the same time

weary shadow
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Pretty much

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I don't even do much damage I just slap on my staff and go afk

high surge
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ive only got the mystic robes but i think it should be sufficient

weary shadow
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If you have transmute it's a joke ot ge the best runes

high surge
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i dont but im gunna take T7 reloaded > transmute

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i just have a water elemental staff (not even battle lmao)

weary shadow
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I cleared the fire cape pre thorns with just those robes and that staff with the air/water combo for prayer and health

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It was long, but so long as you remember to prayer switch on jad it's fine.

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The minis that he spawns you do need to be fast to agro and clean out though

polar oyster
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done fire cape just thorning and without atking, 26 minutes

weary shadow
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Oh and def do it on the slayer task if you get it lol

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so much free exp

high surge
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which task is that? explicitly jad?

potent quail
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jo what the actual f

weary shadow
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Jad's gives you slayer exp the whole time

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Complete the Leagues Tutorial
Defeat a Hill Giant
Open the Leagues Menu
Reach Combat Level 50
Use the Protect from Melee Prayer
Defeat a Demonic Gorilla
Defeat a Mithril Dragon
Defeat a Steel Dragon on Karamja
Defeat a TzHaar
Equip an Obsidian Cape (buy the ores in the volcano transmute them into runite ore and resell)
Equip a Fire Cape
Defeat a Black Dragon in Tirannwn
Defeat Hueycoatl 1 Time
Equip any piece of armour from the moons of peril (thorns will help)

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These are the pact tasks you can do (easily) for reference

weary shadow
potent quail
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yes

weary shadow
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Nice!

potent quail
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i still dont have bottomless on my ironman e,e

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but yeah bottomless insane qol in league

high surge
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huey i should be able to do, never done it before but got the stats, i just need some people to do it with i guess

weary shadow
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Huey you just mass it

potent quail
weary shadow
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Go to it, join the most populated world and try to do as much damage as you can, with the staff cast speed one you should be fine

potent quail
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hue mass you do need solid damage though

pliant saddle
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whats the best wildy boss for slayer tasks? like easiest nonbrain function requiered

potent quail
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you need to deal atleast 50 i think

high surge
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ive got the two pacts for cast speed, still feels slow, some dude just showed up next to me with 1 tick casting lmao, i feel inadequate

pure karma
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whats the solve for med clues?

potent quail
weary shadow
potent quail
old tapir
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i feel kinda bad crashing a gem stall but larcenists can all share a world anyway

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their own fault for being spread across a hundred worlds

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and i'm tired of hopping

potent quail
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btw larcenist does not work with the stone chest at lizardman

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which is annoying

chilly pine
weary shadow
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I wanted to take it, but runecrafting got me feeling so bad

old tapir
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the math just doesn't work out

high surge
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i took it, i dont regret it

old tapir
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i hop 40 times and still end up disrupting somebody

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they hop once and they're fine

potent quail
polar oyster
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I got a dog slayer task, but I have no areas containing dogs lol

high surge
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shouldnt be possible

weary shadow
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Don't wolves count?

polar oyster
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checking the wiki slayer task/dogs, no karamja, varlamore and mory

old tapir
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everybody gets karamja

polar oyster
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oh wait fml

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brimhaven dungeon smh

high surge
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direwolves west of fortis

potent quail
high surge
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they're doggos in my books

potent quail
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why not dog if dog shaped?

high surge
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exactly

potent quail
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we need a canine task

fluid fable
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Is there any way to reclaim a lost echo item? Or do i juzt have to get it to drop again

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I died when it dropped

loud beacon
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what happens when you go above 100% for "chance to Regenerate runes, ammo and charges"?

weary shadow
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You get more

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Oh that sucks been trying to get hard Western, but I have to kill an elf with a crystal bow .. and you can't do that without the Elf area

high surge
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oof

pure karma
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does kings barrage make me immune to dragonfire?

sacred coyote
loud beacon
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so the heal and prayer on rune recharge would get even better then

sacred coyote
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Correct

loud beacon
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would 900 total defense be enough for thorns?

sacred coyote
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The higher the better, 900 is decent but you could go more

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i.e Justiciar set, no shield or other bonuses comes in around 1150

willow finch
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For slayer you actually only want to do 5 minimum for boss tasks right? Only 69 slayer right night trying to get up to kraken. But assuming for now just pick the max amount per task until I get to kraken?

high surge
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hmm, well i can get into huey and cleared it twice but doesnt count as a kill, i guess im not doing enough dmg, it dies so fast

queen fable
sacred coyote
willow finch
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Kk thanks. Does duradel or nieve matter?

queen fable
high surge
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i did literally squeeze myself into a full world lol, i could try some quieter ones to see whats up

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im not familiar with the fight so i dont wanna have to fully learn it for some quick task points 😄

loud beacon
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has anyone here done colosseum with mage/thorns?

proper wave
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is ore or gems better for tokkul?

queen fable
proper wave
# queen fable Ores.

I have both larceny and transmute, but I thought transmute stopped at dragonstone

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or am I misunderstanding what you're saying

queen fable
proper wave
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yeah i wouldn't need tokkul if i could just transmute into onyx haha

chilly bane
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whats the fastest way to get an kind of bones. looking toi levle prayer since i have transmute

queen fable
chilly bane
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but what and where T.T lol

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whats close to a bank and lots of bones

toxic vortex
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Pen full of buffalos outside of civitas

proper wave
toxic vortex
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Bank is close

chilly bane
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you guys dont have to give advice if you dont know lol

toxic vortex
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We literally just gave you two options

chilly bane
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yes i know you said stuff LOL

toxic vortex
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Can you not read?

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That's terrible man

chilly bane
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its like if i asked whats a good way to level woodcutting at level 85. and you said "chop trees" LOL

proper wave
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hey i just wanted to say that you have to have 70 prayer to do superiors btw @chilly bane - don't transmute all the way up and then have to go back down to dag bones lol

queen fable
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The fastest bones you can collect then transmute them.

So you'd have to find the fastest bone dropping monsters or drop tables with large amounts of bones.

twilit laurel
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From what I've seen the best way to get bones is to do hunter (if you have huntsman)

loud beacon
manic prairie
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rate my ggs setup

chilly bane
loud beacon
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anything and everything xd

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no specifics atm

chilly bane
toxic vortex
proper wave
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i plan to take soul harvest later anyway

chilly bane
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ok maybe its faster than i realized. didnt do the math

proper wave
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really just to get overheads to kickstart you

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can grind harder later

chilly bane
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im already level 78 prayer

twilit laurel
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Also make sure to maximize your bones by doing blessed bone shards with sunfire wines

proper wave
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you already have higher prayer than me then lol

twilit laurel
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If you have endless harvest you can afk gather bone shards by mining

queen fable
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I got to 85 just from afking mining bone shards and using regular wines in my downtime using endless harvest

chilly bane
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its like i went into a business discord channel and asked, "whats a good way to start a career." and everyone said, "work at mcdonalds" LOL

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liek yeah i guess ill start making money that way lol

twilit laurel
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Are you too good to kill a pen full of buffalos outside of civitas?

chilly bane
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i just dont want to do that for 5 hours T.T

queen fable
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Daggonath bones are one transmute away from superior bones so if you wanted to afk daggonaths, you'd do less transmuting

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Followed by hydra bones, lava dragon bones, drake bones, then dragon bones.

chilly bane
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i might just go chickens lynShrug no one seems to have a good place. think everyone took soul harvest

twilit laurel
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You need like <500 bones to get to 99 if you transmute

chilly bane
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looking for something low level near a bank or something higher that drops noted bones

chilly bane
twilit laurel
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Apparently not even close

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Don't know where I got that idea in my head

chilly bane
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LOL

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ya'll just spitting out shit saying it like its fact LOL

chilly pine
queen fable
chilly bane
twilit laurel
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On a gilded altar 70-99 it's 1464 superior bones.

chilly bane
twilit laurel
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What regions do you have?

runic cave
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what fairy ring gets me to abby demons/

chilly bane
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Kandarin and Kourend

chilly pine
runic cave
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ty

queen fable
chilly bane
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no bank drips cuz noted though i suppose

twilit laurel
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That's a 1/4 at 5x

chilly bane
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im pretty sure DR only on rare drops

twilit laurel
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Considering how afk sarachnis is. That's pretty good

chilly pine
chilly bane
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otheriwse mobs would have to drop a lot more items per kill

twilit laurel
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I'm going to stop talking till I wake up 😅

chilly bane
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LOL

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well its actually sweet how many people are trying to help despite not know though 🥹

queen fable
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To recap your options I see are:
Kill low level mobs for regular bones near bank
Kill Sarachnis for dbones
Kill Dragons 1-1.

cyan cove
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whats the best pipeline for tokkul? I cant rc death or choas runes to sell so what would be the best pipeline for gold into runes

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I dont believe the tokul vender buys bloods right

twilit laurel
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It's to numb the pain of 200 Kalphite queen with no dragon pickaxe

chilly pine
cyan cove
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no

twilit laurel
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Do you have thieving relic?

cyan cove
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nope 🙂

queen fable
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Big oof

queen fable
twilit laurel
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Finally got the D pick. I'm free!

chilly pine
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your best moneymaker into buying chaos runes

cyan cove
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I went

barbarian gathering
hotfoot
bank heist
conniving clues
soul harvest
eternal sustenance
culling spree
Reloaded

mortania, asgarnia, and karandin

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mainly went karan just in case I give up on blind bag and wanna go mage thorns

twilit laurel
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Get alchables, sell to thieves shop in burthrope. Easiest is to get onyx tipped bolts and have the regen over time

languid swift
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where is a good place to give Leagues feedback:

Transmute doesn't seem to give a way to bypass area restrictions.

a. Magic skillcape lunar spellbook swap is doable but you can't accomplish fertile soil or spellbook swap even though they can be cast

b. Can't bury lava dragon bones outside wildy??
c. redwood log burning as well

And maybe more

twilit laurel
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My onyx tipped dragon bolts print money

willow finch
cyan cove
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what you just keep them in inventory and they regen?

twilit laurel
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You use them with a crossbow

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get demonic pacts that regen ammo

queen fable
austere mirage
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has the larcany bug been fixed where someone can stop it by just stealing from the stall?

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if not i am about to upset people

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i need a task done

queen fable
austere mirage
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that was like 10 people stopped by 1 task

twilit laurel
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Upset them. They should be in the tzharr city anyway

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TzHarr have a better gem stall

chilly pine
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non-fire cape havers

twilit laurel
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They're also ironmen

austere mirage
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oh i have fire cape!

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am i cool now?

twilit laurel
winged sinew
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slowly gathering up caskets 🙂

cyan cove
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love locking myself out of zulrah and any alter to make tokull

austere mirage
cyan cove
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and I cant use the bolts to make money bc I dont have anything speced into regeneration

chilly pine
cyan cove
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75

chilly pine
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gargoyles print money too

cyan cove
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I was thinking of hard grinding gargoyles

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which slayer master gives those as tasks

chilly pine
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duradel

twilit laurel
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duracell

winged sinew
queen fable
chilly bane
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ive went from levle 93 to 97 rangede trying to kill Undead Druids to get one drop of Wine of Zamorak lynDead

cyan cove
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do any shops buy blood runes? I could print those and sell them for gold

chilly bane
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no just death ):

chilly bane
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you can sell rune ore if you have transmute for better profit though 🙂

cyan cove
shy light
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Day 2 of trying to get Bandos Tassets

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🫠

queen fable
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Yea I know, you didn't choose wildy haha

twilit laurel
chilly pine
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wizards guild in kandarin

iron river
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First time playing leagues
Currently sitting at 43k points im having so much fun 😄
How on pase am i for dragon? Is this extremely fast or average?

cyan cove
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isnt thieving guild the rouges den

toxic vortex
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You are going fast

twilit laurel
toxic vortex
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You probably have a lot of time in leagues so far

twilit laurel
queen fable
willow finch
iron river
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I afk 50mills on my phone at work when im not home ;P

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Damn so im speeding xd

queen fable
worldly nest
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can anybody give me suggestions on my next relic & location? I went Kandarin / priff so far and EH/FF/EE/T/L/ES for my relics. I was originally considering kourend and soul harvest but i feel like im not too bothered about maxing so probably wanna lean more towards something fun pvm wise? maybe reload to culling spree?

willow finch
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I’m only at 9600 points about to unlock 4th region

winged sinew
willow finch
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Debating Zeah or Mory for next region…Have mage… refuse to go priff I’m not doing CG

queen fable
chilly pine
cyan cove
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you know what would be cool, if transmutation worked with beginner clues

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ToB peak raid

twilit laurel
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I thought you didn't have transmute?

cyan cove
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I dont

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would have it if I could do that tho

twilit laurel
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Is there a good world for GOTR?

worldly nest
winged sinew
twilit laurel
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Achievement Diaries

worldly nest
toxic vortex
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@cyan cove now you are obligated to share your in game time for leagues

chilly pine
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if you have morytania, doing sins of the father gives 1.440.000 exp as well (i put it in runecrafting)

queen fable
toxic vortex
worldly nest
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is it easy enough to find groups for raids?

toxic vortex
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Toa in particular is much easier to solo/was designed to be solo-able

austere mirage
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is they a 2nd challenge i need to do first?

cyan cove
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need one more relic

chilly pine
queen fable
austere mirage
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where is 2?

kind cairn
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I feel like darts would be alot more fletching exp at once but vale totems is probably faster over time, that being said, I'm not really enjoying vale totems, kinda boring

chilly pine
twilit laurel
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You have to unlock the jad challenges in order

regal spindle
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can't seem to fix this bug where i'm trying to pick my pacts, and the entire tree is fuckin dissapearing, resetting as if i never started choosing a pact tree.

cyan cove
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once I beat thermal though im highly considering joining the rest of the people and running the mage thorns build bc it looks insane

toxic vortex
austere mirage
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yeah

toxic vortex
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Then yeah you just need to go talk to him and do the first challenge

queen fable
austere mirage
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found him!

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ty

cyan cove
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then once I get all the 2 hand BiS weapons im respecing back into blind bag

chilly pine
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you mean the boppers?

toxic vortex
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Yeah I kinda want to burn a reset for mage thorns just to cheese inferno

cyan cove
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nah my ideal blind bag is nox hally, as many GS as I can get, maybe that awakened axe

queen fable
austere mirage
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i think i got 1 shot

twilit laurel
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Thorns is too op not to use it

cyan cove
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yall got a link for that mage thorns build? I got an idea how to make it but not a solid one

toxic vortex
kind cairn
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if I don't have woodsman what yall suggest the best method to 99 fletching? Currently doing Vale Totems but its kinda boring

toxic vortex
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Or spamming broad bolts

toxic vortex
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Found this earlier this morning

cyan cove
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I use the infernal boppers and don't get me wrong its good but could be better

toxic vortex
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I meant in the blindbag itself

winged sinew
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157 more to go

iron river
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I use 5 blood moon boppers

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+4 other uniques

lofty frigate
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guys, im in hard time to decide what to reloaded...

im running endless/woods/evil/trans/lacer/culling...any tips?

iron river
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Larc for ez 200m thieving+pet

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And gems

winged sinew
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probably already has 200M thieving

iron river
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For 50m crafting

winged sinew
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first thing those people do

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XD

iron river
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I got transmute so i got like 26k dragonstones to cut

regal spindle
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what do these even mean?? will you be punished for taking damage?

winged sinew
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first thing transmuters do was to get 99 prayer asap

kind cairn
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best place to mine close to a bank?
Have Varlamore/Karamja/Kandarin

winged sinew
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or at least 90 (for payer task)

iron river
lilac stream
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I was just about to comment on the pet. Does the relic make it easy or is everyone just stealing that much lol. I just saw the gemstall with about 5 peeple stealing and all had the pet

winged sinew
queen fable
iron river
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Simply put xd

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Oh

winged sinew
lofty frigate
iron river
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Nvm

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I mean with harvest

winged sinew
iron river
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Mybad

winged sinew
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200M already

winged sinew
regal spindle
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is there any ranged build with demonic pacts that heals?

karmic nova
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So I do faster damage, but the damage is lowered?

toxic vortex
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Yes

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It's worth it

karmic nova
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Fair enough

chilly pine
karmic nova
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It's my next one after the 1% magic damage/10% all combat accuracy

winged sinew
queen fable
winged sinew
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but you could buy air runes

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to get a lot

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but you can transmute 10 at a time

chilly pine
winged sinew
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i will do this anyway

regal spindle
karmic nova
regal spindle
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are there any ranged pact builds that have healing?

toxic vortex
winged sinew
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I dropped my master clue becasue i didn't have a spirit tree seed

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and i saw that spirit tree is part of "special" category in farming

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so i thought it wouldn't count as a tree

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because fruit tree is seperate from other trees

toxic vortex
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I have a master clue RN that I'm holding on to

winged sinew
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that reasoning

toxic vortex
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I need +100 magic attack

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And I have to go to the death altar

chilly pine
regal spindle
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how did they have such a miserable oversight, that they didn't realise bow users cannot heal with any of these pacts? lmao

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melee people can use thorns, mage have overhealing to the max, range gets nothing?

karmic nova
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This sucks! How much damage do I have to do be eligible for huey loot?

twilit laurel
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Crossbows can use thorns

queen fable
regal spindle
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ah what i didn't understand is that it keeps counting up with +1 each time

glacial ridge
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anyone know if i can do moons with a 30 pact range build?

twilit laurel
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Easily

glacial ridge
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so doesnt have to be melee?

twilit laurel
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No

chilly pine
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if you have the guaranteed max hit pact

glacial ridge
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ty

toxic vortex
chilly pine
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without tank armour you will take some damage tho

glacial ridge
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all good my dmg heals

toxic vortex
winged sinew
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btw for anyone who has morytania and is doing clues get the ring of charos from Harmony Island by using on of the transportation in the image and pickpocket Dr Fenkenstrain,the quest The Great Brain Robbery is completed and thus moving from his castle to the basement of the windmill!

chilly pine
queen fable
toxic vortex
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The moons all have a fairly high range defense

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So yeah, if you hit it will be max hit

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But until that point blood moon will continually bend you over without consent

austere mirage
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can we not do puro puro?

toxic vortex
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Because overhead prayers don't do anything

toxic vortex
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Go to zanaris

chilly pine
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you can buy your first jars from the npc in the middle

torpid sinew
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I’m still learning how to play

fluid fable
austere mirage
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yeah i was walking around like let me in!

fluid fable
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Xdd

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I gotta go baxk there at some point

winged sinew
fluid fable
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Got 50 imps and just got bored and forgot to do it to 200

toxic vortex
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2.1m fletching xp worth

winged sinew
# torpid sinew I’m still learning how to play

this is clearly someone jsut trying to advertise themselves, not gonna pay attention to them more than i already have, you can clearly know what they are doing with that kind of message as their 2nd message and looking at their profile

queen fable
winged sinew
fluid fable
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U didnt

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8 hours of waiting for 2m xp

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When half the shit in the game has xp rates of like 10+m per hour

winged sinew
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I even reloaded to avoid it XD

fluid fable
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Fletching being one of those

queen fable
#

Bell is only good if you aren't playing actively at all.

winged sinew
#

playing less*

#

most people take breaks eventually

queen fable
#

I logged out for 3 days came back to some easy points/xp so it was worth it for me being a Dad.

fluid fable
#

I keep switching between main and league ye

little ermine
#

i wont be playng for 5 days due to work

#

so bell is going to be really helpful

winged sinew
fluid fable
#

Im sorry 😭 😭

austere mirage
#

play leagues more!

#

get that dragon

winged sinew
#

true

#

you can sell the event items for money

fluid fable
#

Idk if i even like most of what leagues has to offer

winged sinew
#

or brag like some people do

fluid fable
#

But i keep coming back coz big xp kinda fun

#

I think id regret not getting my bowfa at least and taking down the inferno with a way too op build and pretend it was skill

#

Lol

karmic nova
#

I feel like Blue Moon is impossible

winged sinew
#

leagues is fun becasue it breaks the norm of osrs being slow and grindy but most of us love that anyway

#

is like a breath of fresh air

#

well paced

shy light
#

just need hilts now for all god swords lol

fluid fable
#

Just need some more stats

karmic nova
#

Ah I see

#

Stupid defence leveling

fluid fable
#

Moons are a very - defence is good here- place

fluid fable
karmic nova
#

No, I am going for more magic build

austere mirage
#

i need 2k more pact points!

#

then i get the slayer relic

karmic nova
#

And I'm more annoyed that I don't do enough damage to the huey to get credit for the kill for a pact point

fluid fable
#

We get a lot of respecs. Id suggest it might be worth it for you to just respec into a melee, bljndbag thorns buils for litterlly like an hour, get 99 att, str, and ddf

fluid fable
#

Then go back to ur maging

karmic nova
#

I'm going to have to lol

fluid fable
austere mirage
#

i should have done that at the start

karmic nova
#

92 magic but only a blue wizard robe and hat. Need more magic gear

austere mirage
#

but when i picked up first staff i knew....... forever mage

austere mirage
karmic nova
#

Only karamja

queen fable
#

Low pop world (2-3 people or solo) huey to get enough damage, full inventory of food/one pray pot/tank the damage.

austere mirage
#

Kandrin is your next area

fluid fable
#

At 99 mage with an earth spell i got huey credit with nothjng equipped but a fire staff

rigid plume
#

How the heck did you guys get corp kill for the pact?

fluid fable
#

His weak to earth btw

karmic nova
austere mirage
#

i messed up and went desert

karmic nova
#

I'd love to do desert but also...blech

queen fable
rigid plume
#

Ugh I dont have eternal sus. I took culling

austere mirage
queen fable
karmic nova
#

I'm torn with larceny and taking soul harvester, but also the repeat relic option could give me the demon butler

fluid fable
#

Buttler

rigid plume
#

Larceny is amazing

#

Butler is also really good for 99ing all those skills

karmic nova
#

I always picked larceny because easy money and 100% pickpocketing

karmic nova
covert wolf
#

king barrage upgrade

rigid plume
#

Cracting is like 2 days of letting him spin bow

fluid fable
#

Larceny has a lot of really nice use cases

austere mirage
rigid plume
#

I wana do the king barrage build but I need a few more pact points

#

Might just take my 50% pray pen and afk demonic gorillas

karmic nova
#

Bettter question: how do I even go about construction?

austere mirage
#

[[prayer scroll]]

obsidian bluffBOT
fluid fable
#

I might make that a respec i do. Just afk gorillas till zenyte

austere mirage
karmic nova
#

100 oak planks until what level?

austere mirage
#

got me to 47

fluid fable
#

Cons the most broken skill

#

Idk why everyones so scared of it lmfao

queen fable
fluid fable
#

Uno how irs crazy fast in main

#

Ye, lmao we got 12x the xp

#

What are u scared of fr

karmic nova
#

I STILL did not do enough damage with 92 earth surge

fluid fable
#

Just try again

#

Spin the dice. Ur strong enough

queen fable
obsidian cape
#

is guthans spear a good bb weapon to use ?

rigid plume
marble kestrel
karmic nova
#

Idk which worlds don't have a ton of huey people

fluid fable
#

I got mine in a world with like 7 people on it

#

On huey that is

queen fable
marble kestrel
lament crater
#

Is friendly forager glitched? All potions dont make at once but it used too

glacial ridge
#

the task kill moons of peril 50x, does it count if i only do one boss?

fluid fable
#

Im pretty sure eacb boss is 1 kc for that task

queen fable
austere mirage
#

721 is quietest league i see

fluid fable
#

Nvm

#

I take it bacm

toxic vortex
#

Cause of the regular butler

#

So fletching xp fits the best

queen fable
toxic vortex
#

Yeah. But I think they figured con is already really fast

queen fable
toxic vortex
#

Not that fletching isn't though

#

Idk

fluid fable
#

Fletchings actually kinda slow

#

Made me sad

toxic vortex
#

What

karmic nova
#

I hate this huey

#

I died

toxic vortex
#

Broad bolts are very fast

fluid fable
#

Okay

#

I mean

#

Ur not meant to die to huey

obsidian cape
#

vale totems seems to work pretty well i cant lie

toxic vortex
#

Its not bad

karmic nova
#

Well yeah, I just misclicked and misprayered

fluid fable
#

That goes against u getting kill credit

toxic vortex
#

Especially with the trees right there

#

Close to a bank

queen fable
#

Every skill is slow if you didn't pick pacts that complement them. Just highly dependent on how you chose your paths.

fluid fable
#

Thats all i know

obsidian cape
fluid fable
#

I already have it clogged

obsidian cape
fluid fable
#

Yeh i got it like 4 times lll

#

U get alot of spools lmao

queen fable
#

Yea I'm at 79 fletching and got the spools task

obsidian cape
queen fable
#

the rewards go crazy

fluid fable
#

Its not the worst

#

Its just that like

#

Its fletching

obsidian cape
#

id much rather grind vale totems than base rune crafting lol

fluid fable
#

Uno

#

Tfs the point

#

Its a useless skill

queen fable
#

Do it if you want points, don't do it if you want to get points in other fun things.
That's about it tbh.

obsidian cape
#

^

fluid fable
#

I did it coz i managed to psyop myself into thinking im going to need to fletch a lot of rune arrows

obsidian cape
fluid fable
#

And then i got 12 arrows from a fire giant, realised u create arrows by shootijg them. And now i have like 5k

obsidian cape
#

at the end of the day theres only like 40 odd days left in the league, dont do stuff you dont find fun! 😄

queen fable
#

It's my first leagues so I was just doing every task in order from least to most points didn't even realize until day 2 you could go to other places lmfao

pallid moth
#

I did fletching for the points, and because dragon bolts have no sources where they are useable right away

fluid fable
#

Then take down inferno

#

Iv lost interest in the rest of the content available

pallid moth
#

plus webweaver

fluid fable
#

Im not going wildy unfortunately

#

I could maybe go wildy and masori

#

Instead of crystal

obsidian cape
#

then go for it 🙂 this is my first league so ive just set myself a goal and im just gonna have fun getting there !

queen fable
#

Right now I'm afking scorpia for my last malediction ward piece. Been 2 hours no shard piece kinda lame.

fluid fable
#

Actually fuck ot

#

Im going wildy

#

Webs my all time fave item, and iv heard it really good this league

#

Web weaver inferno lets go

queen fable
#

Wildy is fun until you need multiple pieces of everything for points, gets kind of sit here and cry about it vibes (imo).

craggy coral
#

what's the world for theatre?

obsidian cape
#

im actually new to runescape aswell so ive done about 2 weeks on main game and came straight to leagues, managed to learn alot of pvm and get bloodfury ammy, my next goal is firecape after i get dharok axe

pallid moth
#

2t webweaver + never missing ranged echoes seems like a fun build

fluid fable
#

Maybe ill take desert before wildy then

obsidian cape
karmic nova
#

I gave up and used water spells to heal and I got him. Earth is DUMB

karmic nova
#

Thanks for the 13 sharks lol

blazing meadow
#

Any world for barbarian assault?

obsidian cape
fluid fable
#

That was the case for bowfa as well, before lasg patch

obsidian cape
#

insane so my 501 venenatis kills were worth it lol

fluid fable
#

Xdd

craggy coral
#

Does anybody know what the world is for leagues theatre of blood?

obsidian cape
#

my last goal was voidwaker, 501 kills for ther gem and now on vet'ion and 300 kills no drop yet

karmic nova
#

Wait who said the powered stave pact was good? I don't even have one yet

fluid fable
#

Powered staves are very very strong ye

#

Probably the best build if u want the giga max

toxic vortex
#

Better question is did anyone say it was bad??

karmic nova
#

Where can I get one from karamja/varlamore? This sounds awesome but I'll have to probably pick the higher attack rate with combat spells by 2 ticks

toxic vortex
#

Youll need a separate region

karmic nova
fluid fable
#

Idk varla, but kandarin has thermy staff

willow finch
#

I got 10 pacts, water mage + beginning stages of thorns trying to do demonics but shit isn’t as fast as I thought lmao

karmic nova
#

Boooo separate region

fluid fable
#

And trim has trident of swamp

toxic vortex
#

I don't think varlamore has a powered staff

#

Karamja definitely doesnt

karmic nova
obsidian cape
#

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Areas this might have to be the best resource ive used as far, lists everything that boosts drop rates and what regions have what

Old School RuneScape Wiki

In the Demonic Pacts League, players will be locked to only certain areas in the game. All players begin locked to Varlamore and will unlock Karamja for free when they achieve their first region unlock after completing 80 tasks. Up to 3 other regions of their choice can be unlocked through completing...

toxic vortex
#

Tirannwn

fluid fable
#

Which is very significantly worse with no real payoff

fluid fable
queen fable
toxic vortex
fluid fable
fluid fable
fluid fable
toxic vortex
#

Bro is just making up names

karmic nova
fluid fable
#

I think im combining it with a real place near me and creating a all new name

queen fable
#

Tiranasaurusa

toxic vortex
fluid fable
#

Ayak good

#

Hard to get tho

karmic nova
#

I was just checking the list and I think it's the only one so far

toxic vortex
#

Not as good as toxic trident though

summer verge
#

Does it matter what Slayer Master I use in the league?

fluid fable
#

Is it not?

obsidian cape
#

wildy might have to be my best decision ever i cant lie

fluid fable
#

I spose of course not eh

#

Its whole thing is attacking faster than trident

#

And now it dont

toxic vortex
#

Exactly

toxic vortex
#

If you want bosses/higher tier tasks you need to use kuradel

#

Or Steve if you have kandarin

summer verge
#

Oh ok I do have Kandarin. Thank you

toxic vortex
#

Steve is slightly easier to get to

pallid moth
#

kinda annoyed that they added back lesser nagua tasks after I already grinded moxy. at least I'll get to use it for moons

fluid fable
#

Unless u got bank tele

obsidian cape
#

woudl you guys go torvas or crystal ?

fluid fable
#

I love that thing, such an amazing relic

toxic vortex
fluid fable
#

Been helping me like 20+ times an hour ever since iv had it

toxic vortex
#

With blessing

karmic nova
#

Oh this pact with faster tick speeds is incredible with water spells healing

obsidian cape
fluid fable
#

I actually keep going onto main and being like. Bruh how tf do i get to x place lol

#

Coz im getting too used to bank tele

toxic vortex
karmic nova
#

Would this be effective against the blue moon or any of the moons?

toxic vortex
#

It's not ideal

fluid fable
#

But thorns is kinda the gateway to shit thats pretty resistant

karmic nova
#

I just can't stay alive and this thing is healing me crazy on huey, just standing in everything doing water surge

fluid fable
#

Cant or can?

karmic nova
#

I can't stay alive in blue moon even when following mechanics

fluid fable
#

Hmm...

queen fable
fluid fable
#

Ima be honest i dont think ur following mechanica like. Corectly

obsidian cape
# toxic vortex Probably better defense

my last pick im debating asgarnia or tira, but i really cant decide lol, running BB build but have larceny, i could get my last 10 levels on crafting and smithing, and crystal gear, but there is also so much i can also do in Asgarnia that id like, IE Godswords, torvas being a crystal replacement and other things

pallid moth
#

what are your other areas, fayy?

karmic nova
#

Punch the ice with my weapon in it, avoid ice shards, avoid ice twisters and light braziers

obsidian cape
#

WIldy and mory

fluid fable
#

Ye

vapid silo
#

if anyone needs Shades of Morrton doin it rn with bracelets at w737

fluid fable
#

Idk man, just get some tank gear

vapid silo
#

got the temple built up

fluid fable
#

Whats ur defence?

marble kestrel
karmic nova
#

I just have addy armor and the tyras helm

fluid fable
#

Alright well

karmic nova
#

59 defence, leveling with magic though at huey

fluid fable
#

I men

#

Deserved a little

#

Just go grab obby armour set

obsidian cape
karmic nova
#

I just can't seem to find more armor that's better

marble kestrel
#

amox drops rune armour

karmic nova
#

Is amox tough?

marble kestrel
#

easier than moons

karmic nova
#

Any prerequisites?

fluid fable
#

Use ur huey respec to get melee blindbag and thorns. Get 99 def, str, att. Do moons, then dl amoxy and use the amoxy respec to go back to the build u actually wanna play

obsidian cape
# karmic nova Only karamja

i was in your same shoes, if kill amox a few times for her rune armor and you also get temotlis, Then what i did was unlock wilderness and farm revenants for dragon legs and helm and went back and did moons, was a huge upgrade

fluid fable
#

Obby is faster and better than rune

#

Just saying

obsidian cape
fluid fable
#

Can ye

#

But u dont need gold perse

#

I just mined iron, transmuted to rune and then traded it for tokkul

sand quail
#

is accuracy more important than 100% prayer penetration? 135 accu atm and have last 2 nodes. not sure if i go 100% or 210 accuracy

fluid fable
#

Prayer pens kinda niche

#

Theres not all that many bosses that actually pray

obsidian cape
#

accuracy = more bonk

floral isle
#

how is bowfa with crystal armour so bad compared to other things?! i grinded this first because i thought i would have a nice baseline

#

this league is severely unbalanced lol

sand quail
#

ok time to go accuracy then. ty

thorny terrace
#

death talismans are not rate boosted i take it?

fluid fable
#

Bow build gets rimmed pretty much every step of the way ye

#

But i enjoy it still

kind cairn
#

Currently have Varlamore/Karamja/Kandarin and I'm considering my next two zones being Morytania/Desert that way I get two raids to do and some fairly good items.
My build is water magic/Thorns with points in powered staves as well as surge spells.
Should I switch one of those zones for tiranwen instead for the crystal armor/blessing? Is it really OP compared to the next best set of armor?
Since i'm going thorns though do I just not worry about the crystal set and try to get get something like justiciar/barrows for the high defense?

fluid fable
#

Echoes go brrr

obsidian cape
# karmic nova Is amox tough?

ermm id say pretty easy boss its just movement really, if youre new to the game or just pvm, its an excellent gateway boss

fluid fable
#

Amox is weird

#

Base amox. Just being honest, total joke

karmic nova
#

Long time on and off player and I can't boss my way out of obor sometimes

fluid fable
#

Ull get her down in 2 attempts

#

Echo though would be very hard of ur super new to the game

karmic nova
#

Think this can Amox then?

fluid fable
#

Coz u gotta lock in for her

frozen flame
#

I cannot figure out mechanics of when my Vetion slayer task counts and doesn’t count, when killing in a group.

#

It doesn’t even seem to care about my damage done

obsidian cape
#

Amox was my first ever boss, then my second ever pvm boss was echo amox and once i learned the fight, i became so much better and confident at the game

fluid fable
#

She does everything very fast. And she punishes mistakes very hard

frozen flame
tacit oyster
frozen flame
karmic nova
#

Ah, I can't do Amox. Didn't do Heart of Darkness

fluid fable
#

I found it better to not even bring food against her. Theres no time to heal

fluid fable
#

Its legit like 10 mins

karmic nova
#

Don't have 55 mining lmao

lone bloom
#

all moons combat achievements done in leagues, now i just need the sets

fluid fable
#

Rip

karmic nova
#

49/55 so should be easy

obsidian cape
karmic nova
#

Yes

pallid moth
#

its a very quick quest. so is Final dawn tbh, that was a 20 min quest just because of all the running around. I had 75% prayer pen so the quest bosses died quick

obsidian cape
#

thats a little tougher then, i didnt go magic so i wouldnt be able to give you good advice as i went melee

tacit oyster
#

oh with magic and that gear you cannot really do amoxliatl

fluid fable
#

Theres no need to be so low statted

karmic nova
#

Don't we only get 3 respecs?

fluid fable
#

No

obsidian cape
fluid fable
#

U get like 15

karmic nova
fluid fable
#

And ur not far away from ur 2nd

karmic nova
#

I might as well be a newer player since I never did get far into the main character

#

My current setup

fluid fable
loud beacon
#

feels good slogging through smithing to lvl 70 with no solve at 300k xp/hr and then going from 70-99 with 50m xp/hr

fluid fable
#

Is sais 4m an hour but its not egen true

#

Id been there for like 20mins shit was still going up, quick

loud beacon
#

now i need to decide which crystal armor color is the coolest

obsidian cape
#

my thought process is do you want to power through leagues or get better mechanically? if you wanna power through, thorns is the way to go probably, if you wanna get better mechanically, id actually go a melee setup and learn the fight as it has taught me so so so much about bossing and pvm in general, but at the end of the day, just have fun and do what you wanna do!

naive lava
#

catch 100 dark crabs task:

caught around 208 so far task not going through

could this because endless harvest and hotfoot? (banking and cooking)

tacit oyster
karmic nova
#

I wish the resets weren't limited, even if it's 12 or more. Infinite resets please lol

naive lava
karmic nova
#

Or let me fill the entire tree out please

fickle thistle
#

How do I gain the privilege to post screenshots

fluid fable
#

Personally i think we get too many

queen fable
fluid fable
#

Respeccing for the task u feel like doing goes against the concept in my mind

karmic nova
fickle thistle
floral isle
karmic nova
floral isle
#

i think im just gonna quit because of this poor balance xD

fickle thistle
deep basin
#

what kind of gear would you suggest for gargoyle boss? i got air mage setup with powered staff (only warped sceptre) and tecpatl with no melee relics

#

kills take 2min +

fluid fable
fickle thistle
#

What are the best melee hands if you have tir, kand, and mory?

fluid fable
#

Combat bracelet

floral isle
deep basin
#

regen bracelet

floral isle
#

naked rcb is almosts the same 😐

fluid fable
#

Ew

#

Regen doesnt even have stats

fickle thistle
#

It doesn’t?

naive lava
#

ring of stone bis ring

fluid fable
#

Does it?

#

I didnt think it did

obsidian cape
kind cairn
#

Should I unlock desert first or Mortytania first?

pure karma
#

not mory

#

it sucks

past birch
pure karma
#

pick it last if youre going it

fathom turret
fluid fable
#

Mory u wanna be strong going into

pulsar oriole
#

Be cool if we could just get every area but only get points for 3. Burn out from doing same 4 pieces of content is real

pure karma
#

do i have to be on a slayer task to fight echo cerb?

deep basin
#

don't think so

#

it could help with slayer helm buff tho

pure karma
#

im afking normal cerb

#

im not worried about 10% more damage

naive lava
kind cairn
naive lava
#

only raid u can just login, join party, and complete

chilly bane
#

this game is kinda tilting the only reason the bosses are hard is because the movement is shit lol

kind cairn
naive lava
#

chambers is stinky and tob u need to know what ur doing

#

also finding teams is harder

fickle thistle
#

I completely relate

chilly bane
#

fighting Echo Amox and i click a tile but apparently its 2 tiles over not 1. none of them arer marked. Then sometimes i move diagonal because where i clicked isnt a real space. And then he just glitched out and walkes through the boss and gets stuck on a hit box and moves back

fickle thistle
#

Echo Amox I did on my phone so idk about pc

chilly bane
fathom turret
#

I did no think this pact point for barrows would take this long

fickle thistle
#

Truth

chilly bane
#

its not hard, you just gotta click on a square every hit. well whats a square? god only knows

naive lava
fickle thistle
#

On mobile I marked every single tile I needed

chilly bane
#

i cant because the fight starts right away and i die if i mark LOL

fickle thistle
#

Took me a couple pulls to get it all marked lol

chilly bane
#

ive got 8 tiles marked so far after each kill i get

fickle thistle
#

But the big thing is go counter clockwise

#

On pull, pray mage, wait a sec, and sidestep

fathom turret
#

@naive lava I have the joys of doing barrows and hydra for pacts... already 360 dry at hydra and 93 barrows chests

chilly bane
#

yeah 1st 2 stges are easy. you have time

#

3rd stage if youu move once wrong you die

fickle thistle
#

I audibly said “click and move, click and move” and that helped me build a mental metronome to beat phase 3

#

Start with the outer edge, then a line right through the center

#

1, 2, 1, 2

#

You have no time to eat don’t even think about it

#

It’s zero damage if you have prayer points

lone bloom
#

metronome plugin on runelite makes a tick tock sound that u can use to know when to click

fickle thistle
#

There is also that but I’m speaking from mobile exp

cloud basin
#

If you dont have Tyr its impossible to get anti venoms right? (I want 10 for the construction pool)

craggy geyser
#

noob question time, in the hopes someone way better at pvm stuff could help me since i dont know what i'm doing: thorns + light melee build, what secondary style would be adviseable? mory + asgarnia, can pick 5th zone but havent chosen yet, no transmute though, all skills are 'solved' so last zone can be purely to either improve the melee or buff/enable a secondary style.. i have no clue what direction to go. Probably some form of magic since i don't wanna pick wilderness? maybe desert? but no wrath runes then?

#

also got nowhere else to ask so :s

short pendant
#

do i need something for the huey hides to drop or am i just incredibly unlucky? over 5x dry now lol

craggy geyser
lone bloom
#

mass drop rate gets divided by # of players there, so if 20 people are there that 1/5 chance gets split among them

boreal imp
#

I have no way to obtain wraith runes I took morty asgarnia and wildy am i cooked on a water staff thorns build?

past storm
#

I got 200m rc exp as my first non combat skill, but it didnt complete the task, is this a known bug? I tried logging and reopening the task interface too

toxic vortex
#

What

boreal imp
toxic vortex
#

Oh. Soul harvest

chilly bane
#

whats the plugin that shows the enemy true tile without highlighting them

toxic vortex
boreal imp
fickle thistle
#

Oh brother

craggy geyser
#

i think your regions would be perfect to go thorns+crossbow isntead of water

fickle thistle
#

That’s not good news

craggy geyser
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cuz u have ceberus from asgarnia for dagger and crossbow from kbd?

fickle thistle
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You could also do a cool light melee fire build with the cerb dagger

craggy geyser
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i'm in pretty much the same situation as you except i havent picked the 5th zone yet, so i'm wondering if i should pick keldagrim (+asg/mory) to do mage secondary set to light thorns or if i need desert or sth

boreal imp
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yeah i’m currently crossbow water overheal but im hitting a wall tryna kill sol with range & im hitting a skill issue wall so was hoping like i could just stand there water waving him or something

craggy geyser
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or pick wildy too and get crossbow

fickle thistle
craggy geyser
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originally i planned prif too but then i heard how horrible cg is and decided not to xD

fickle thistle
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I have made my bed and I need to sleep in it soon

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Don’t remind me

craggy geyser
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xD sorry

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but yeah

craggy geyser
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i'm wondering if i pick keldagrim too as 5th

craggy geyser
fickle thistle
boreal imp
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yeah nothing in the FC really hits zeros haha and i took minion

fickle thistle
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Blood fury is nice yeah

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I also use it when I want the sustain and not the DPS from rancour

boreal imp
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yeah i got that

craggy geyser
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blood fury also procs on the reflect hits

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ah

fickle thistle
boreal imp
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ooooh

fickle thistle
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Had no idea

craggy geyser
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if u already got all that then no the dagger build wouldn't add more

cinder remnant
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How do you do chasm of fire third level

thorny terrace
cinder remnant
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So take same entrance just different lifts?

thorny terrace
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if you have eye you can tp to the voice of yama and then run south east to the lift

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take it up and down

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should complete it

cinder remnant
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Oh ok

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I’ll try that after fishing crane thanks

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Ya works thx

craggy geyser
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so... i guess i should pick keldagrim as 5th zone and maybe enable water magic as well?

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hardchoices

clever vine
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is moons doable with mystic/warped in this?

chilly bane
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ok now its easy lol

lone bloom
obtuse glade
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for whats worth it, if you have minion out it will fail it somehow. i banished it and now its all good and got it

kind cairn
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Does amulet of Blood furys healing work with thorns damage?

craggy geyser
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yes

chilly bane
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nvm i just died cuz i walkeds in the boss T.T

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i need more plugins

fickle spoke
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Can I use the FauxTank build without morytania? I got kandarin tiranwin and wilderness. what armour would I use instead?

chilly bane
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eventually ill get enough plugins the game will be playable lol

lone bloom
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jagex designs content around runelite plugins tbh its bad

smoky raft
lucid flare
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what should i reload to? I'm thinking soul harvest, butler or larcenist

wary peak
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as I see pest control is just fully dead now? or is there a world people do it in?

manic prairie
fickle thistle
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I believed in you

pure karma
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wheres my peg boots jagex

deep basin
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guys - zeah or tirannw?

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last area

shy light
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I'm finally free

deep basin
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kandarin>morytania>zeah/tirannw?

unborn fossil
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Did anyone take wildy first area unlock? thoughts on doing so?

crystal kelp
fickle thistle
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No pet, get back in there

kind cairn
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do defenders count as "shields"?

shy light
chilly bane
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wtf am i even doing lol

pure karma
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wildy is a lot easier if you have antifires though

deep basin
pure karma
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it makes echo kbd do zero damage

chilly bane
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i cant even tell whats on my screen anymore

queen fable
unborn fossil
unborn fossil
deep basin
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kandarin>morytania> zeah or tirannw?

unborn fossil
pure karma
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range

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got rcb from crazy arch

fickle thistle
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What are like the pre-raid blindbag items you need

unborn fossil
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yee okay thats kinda what i was thinking a couple weeks ago

deep basin
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with blood set

fickle thistle
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Main-handing the blood one?

pure karma
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i think theyre bis actually

fickle thistle
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So one of every bopper

fickle thistle
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What’s the main hand?

deep basin
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yes - mainhand dual maracas, have another in invent

lone bloom
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i can unlock 3 regions at the same time, what should i pick? want easy points, pacts, less intensive bossing

deep basin
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and have all the other dual hit varla weapons

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in invent

fickle thistle
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So skip the halberd pacts then

craggy geyser
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what are shield upgrades i can get over obby, without prif? if any?

fickle thistle
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Or, do you take them?

kind cairn
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Are "Defenders" "Shields" I.E. does thorns work with a defender?

obsidian bluffBOT
craggy geyser
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right yeah i know that exists but isnt it... pain to grind? XD

smoky raft
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you asked

craggy geyser
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fair

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cx

deep basin
golden stag
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what can i do with all of these extra eternal teleport crystals? Can i sell them anywhere or do they just rot in bank?

queen fable
golden stag
smoky raft
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slayer cave black dragons have like 1/1k during leagues

queen fable
bronze tangle
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92 kc and still no rcb - at this point I'm not sure I even want it anymore

loud beacon
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do i still need the correct runecrafting level to use soul shards on rune altar?

potent quail
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Flask or minion? I am a thorns buildancestralhmm

smoky raft
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I went minion

thorn marsh
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In TMK, how does 1t Trident with Crystal Armour and Blessing compare to 3t Quadrant (both with Water/Thorns builds)..? 1t Trident is obvi faster and benefits from the Crystal Armour bonuses, but Surge spells with the Quadrant heal much more since it's 3.3 water and 2.6 air runes per tick instead of 1/1 and heals for 60% of damage dealt (and and can use Justi armour for higher Thorns hits)..

smoky raft
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flask lets you solve more content you don't have the skill to do
minion speeds up the content you do have the skill to do