new-recruit-barracks

[distant summit]

comp is in full effect and the seasonal winner is about to be crowned - no FB stuff here

[faint crystal]

ranked competitive hell let loose

[coarse canopy]

Nope

[steady reef]

Question - if I join someones party & the games full, if I sit waiting in the party will it automatically drag me into the game once theres a space?

[timber rune]

Ello, anyone wanna do some snipes? I need to level up and i'm quite new

Also, can a mod remove PS5 from my roles please?

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[ember trout]

No, you'll just be sat in their party in the menu. You'll have to rejoin the party when there's space in the server to be able to join the match

Best method is to constantly leave/rejoin party until you get in

[steady reef]

Ok ok Perf thanks, didn’t think so so I always spammed but wasn’t sure if I was doing it right😂😂

[soft vessel]

Howdy guys, Whats up

[quaint zephyr]

Whats going on

[autumn gate]

The sky

[keen fulcrum]

anyone wanna play

[tight topaz]

Hey Man, How r ya?

[soft vessel]

yooo

[tight topaz]

Hows it goin

[topaz heath]

Is there a channel for bug reports?

Having a bug related to steam achievements for HLL

[solar sparrow]

sigh

[solar sparrow]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1097866142028152944

[topaz heath]

Thanks

[solar sparrow]

Also: Was not sighing at you.

[topaz heath]

I getcha

[sweet cliff]

<@&365680483276816385> ^

[vernal vale]

Thank you.

[timber rune]

Anyone wanna play recon?

[vernal vale]

I'm a little late but try over here.
#pc-looking-for-unit

[zinc notch]

Is there a place I could look for a clan on this server?

[vernal vale]

#pc-divisions-recruitment

Feel free to also drop a bit about yourself below and someone may even pick you up if no recruitment spiels take your fancy.

#pc-looking-for-unit

[zinc notch]

Thx that was the only reason I joined this server 👍

[sullen salmon]

Is there a Server comprised of army vets?

[analog lake]

Mikey's Marauders US EAST 2 needs players. Let's run a game with no queues

[still goblet]

MP-40 should onehit headshot <100m right?

[next oasis]

every gun is a one-hit headshot at any distance

[still goblet]

Must've been a hacker then

[gritty plaza]

There is no such thing as a damage mitigation cheat

There is only incredibly awful server performance which leads to all kinds of desyncs and hit registration issues

[next cairn]

currently been playing tank and recon for over a year, level 103 looking for any active clans too join up with and be useful

[gritty plaza]

#console-divisions-recruitment

[twin shale]

what are new character models

[patent condor]

will a 9mm penetrate your skull at 100 metres 🤔

yes

[unkempt storm]

that's dark

[ocean fjord]

doesnt matter if your name is phineas

[fickle terrace]

Any big milsims recruiting?

[wraith island]

dont dowlode is virus

[sullen salmon]

Is there a Server comprised of army vets?

[gritty plaza]

Not that i know of.

Also, not sure how you'd enforce that. The servers are public and it's not like you can just quickly look up if a player is a vet

[junior forum]

Alright, the Soviets are kicking my butt really hard. I had initial progress with the first offensive but then after the winter, it went into a giant downhill slide any tips?

[gloomy grove]

HOI4 moment

[cyan laurel]

@fickle terrace let me know if you haven’t found anything

[fickle terrace]

I joined the 1st infantry division last night bro

[cyan laurel]

Sounds good brother good luck out there

[autumn gate]

Take Stalingrad

[autumn rose]

Its a 9% player drop for the last month

However it's consistently higher than it's been before so it's a null statistic until it shows longer or more persistent data.

[autumn gate]

Hell Let Loose has fallen

[gritty plaza]

This view is heavily misleading, because that final drop at the end after it seems to stabilize a little bit is simply caused by the fact that it shows the current player count as final data point, which is still outside of peak hours, on a monday.

Seemingly it's currently stabilizing at around 7-9k peak depending on the day, which is slightly below what it was like right before the update.

[empty totem]

I wouldn’t say that

[autumn gate]

Sarcasm

[empty totem]

🤓

[austere apex]

can someone help i cant play the game it says no servers found ive done everything but nothing is working. thanks

[gritty plaza]

Make sure you're launching the normal version of the game and not the Public Test Environment

[austere apex]

ok thanks but why is it because its a test and like itm doesnt work

[gritty plaza]

The Public Testing version is only ever used if they publicly wanna test an update prior to releasing it. For some reason that's the version that's installed by default though, not the normal version.

[austere apex]

alright thank you

[junior forum]

I went to the wrong server... my bad I though this was Hearts of Oak 2...

[fringe mauve]

Just downloaded HLL but haven't played yet. Been watching videos and was wondering what map or server would be best to learn on?

[gritty plaza]

Honestly, neither of those really matter

Hop onto a server, find a squad, preferably one that you can ask questions to and actually responds back, and play as either rifleman, assault, auto-rifleman, medic, or support.

Try and get a feel for the general flow of the game before trying any other role not mentioned above. Don't worry too much about dying. Medic in particular is a great role for starters that make you feel particularly useful relatively easily.

[fringe mauve]

Thought I would start as Rifleman. Ready to take orders.

[stark saffron]

tried commander for the first time on a new player friendly server; three matches in I get heavily cussed out in chat, and afterwards told i'm trash, suck and whatnot by someone else.

[ocean fjord]

think positive - they're expecting great things from you

[graceful terrace]

Lol, yeah yeah bunch of trolls lately. Just ignore them and be a good commander. It will show when you win the match and get commended

[stark saffron]

definitely not, seeing as one of them actually went out of the way to stop me from getting the commander so that anyone else but me can get it.

i did everything right, listening and fulfilling every singular request, ordering some squads around, but because I didn't put up a garrison, that's the reason why I was cussed out.

[graceful terrace]

Lol

[stark saffron]

really really love this game, but this makes me not want to get back on it. the toxicity is just so intense for no fair reasoning. i had thought previously that "new player friendly" server meant just that. also sucks because there were actually a few people on their side and calling me out aswell.

[sweet cliff]

Garrison building is more important than trying to tell people what they should be doing

[graceful terrace]

It’s alright man you must still be new

[stark saffron]

SL's are also capable of doing so, which they were doing so just fine. but because I specifically was focused on other things, I get harassed for it.

[ocean fjord]

Well if they harassed you for garrisons they were just incompetent

[sweet cliff]

It's not aptly named but the commander is not the actual boss, it's more of a servant position where you should be building garrisons and spawning stuff as it makes sense to

[stark saffron]

i'm only new to commander, but I suppose this means never try anything new or else you'll just get cussed out?

[graceful terrace]

So here’s my proposition, ask your squad leads to maintain the current garries. But make the defensive garries your priority

Usually by saying you guys are in charge of those garries right there on the border they will replace them if they get destroyed.

If they lose a point for whatever reason I already built a solid line of garries behind them.

[sweet cliff]

Well let me ask you this, had you built any garrisons at all that game?

[ocean fjord]

OBJECTION

[stark saffron]

no, there was no reason to. the SL's have already done so, otherwise I would've done it.

i was moving up halftracks though, and we had had three very successful games in a row. but the one game we lost, I get cussed out.

[graceful terrace]

We need more context, cause warfare and offensive are very different

[stark saffron]

it was warfare.

[light siren]

Oh well. It’s a video game… You’ll get cussed out no matter what. Don’t give up, game needs commanders who actually try

[stark saffron]

it was more than just cussed out, they actively stopped me from using commander simply because we lost one game.

[graceful terrace]

Idk I don’t really use halftracks unless it’s offensive. But again context we don’t know

[sweet cliff]

Well it's a team game. Maybe you shouldn't be commander if most of the team disagrees, nobody is entitled to the position

[ocean fjord]

Cuss them back.

[stark saffron]

well, I never said I was entitled to the position, but as I said, it's a new player friendly server. so trying something new to aquire a better skillset should be encouraged, yes?

[autumn rose]

Ask them to duel you in a chess game for your final honor

[graceful terrace]

Lol there are some players though that go out of there way to troll

[sweet cliff]

Even if you're doing the absolute best job in the world of any commander ever, you have to be able to persuade people to do stuff and if they don't want you there how can you persuade them

And some people are just straight up dicks

[stark saffron]

so I guess that means never try something new, even when the server is made specifically for that if people are making the decision to get upset over a single loss?

[autumn rose]

The biggest thing is communication and responsibility, taking fault for when the team does bad, and telling them they made the game go well when it does helps

[gloomy grove]

What where you doing if you weren't building garrisons?

Driving half tracks doesn't take very long...

[stark saffron]

1. Driving halftracks, which does take a significant amount of time considering the terrain.

2. Fulfilling multiple requests via the map.

[sweet cliff]

Just trying to provide some perspective, being commander impacts the experience of 49 other people on the server

[stark saffron]

and there's a third reason aswell, learning how everything works.

[graceful terrace]

The other night we had a German offensive defending as Brits.

We get brick house third point, I’m like hell yeah.

So I say engies build defenses on brick. They start building it on the fourth point even though we have boatyard locked down.

I drove over there and started asking them why they were building on the fourth point.

Guy says he doesn’t want to get sniped.

I laughed and said brick house is surrounded by walls, and if we lose the third point recon can get are arty.

Guy moaned and whined then finally went over to brick house.

We won the game.

[gloomy grove]

Of course, but learn a bit more about the meta before playing a role which directly influences 49 other peoples game

Neither of the two things you've said takes long. Map clicking takes all of 10 seconds every couple minutes. Driving half tracks takes a bit of time but isn't a big percentage of a 90 minute game

If a commander builds precisely zero garrisons across a game... they might as well be rifleman

[ocean fjord]

Did you say that you're a fresh commander? Because that changes everything about how people treat you

[gloomy grove]

It's great you are willing to try it, and you should continue to do so but you should take the feedback onboard

[stark saffron]

but I already know about the meta. simply because I don't automatically make the best commander on my first try, doesn't mean I should never try it again on a server made for specifically that.

also, the halftracks continued to get blown up by AT near the point even surrounded by our own Infantry, and are increasingly difficult to drive due to their ridiculous turn speed.

also take into consideration that I was still actively learning how to utilize the commander abilities, so there's that aswell.

this all feels very discouraging, and overly serious for a non-competetive server.

[graceful terrace]

Definitely don’t let one bad experience ruin it for you too. That thrill from pulling off a comeback or sweeping a board is pretty awesome.

[gloomy grove]

You built zero garrisons... I don't think you do know the meta.

Again, take the feedback on board and learn from it

[stark saffron]

i do take feedback, but being cussed out by someone isn't exactly a very good feedback.

[sweet cliff]

Any commander that builds 0 garrisons is going to be unpopular with the team, even though the rest of the team should also build them

[stark saffron]

we don't need more garrisons, when the SL's already had them all down. there was absolutely nowhere of use to place them at.

[graceful terrace]

Yeah… lol

[sweet cliff]

Also maybe they were upset you kept feeding HTs into the enemy, they aren't cheap and lack of heavy tanks is impactful

[stark saffron]

so I don't get this logic, seriously.

and we had plenty of fuel, and no armor units.

every possible node built in all matches, and there were somehow AT guys waiting near spawn just for vehicles to role by, when we had them on their last legs.

and pushed to their last point.

and or second to last. both of which times they had AT guys posted up down the road of every HQ.

[sweet cliff]

Well nobody knows you were the only person here in the match, but part of being commander is working with the team, or giving the job up for someone else, even if you're doing everything right if they don't want you they don't want you

Also I think players advertised as new player friendly are misnomers and teach bad habits if all the new people flock there, game play across all servers is incredibly variable though

[stark saffron]

i was in fact working with the team, and was actually complimented a few times here and there. but as I said, when we lost one match, I get cussed out and have commander purposely taken away from me.

[sweet cliff]

Plus if you're doing a good job and they're being dicks they don't deserve you

How did they take it away from you?

[ocean fjord]

it's called infantry for a reason

[stark saffron]

nobody else had asked me for commander. and unless I was doing absolutely terrible, which I can safely say that I wasn't, I'm not going to stop myself from learning how to use the role if I had it seeing as it's my first time and I had gotten to it first. isn't very fair.

[graceful terrace]

If you are struggling in the back don’t be afraid to ask for help too, especially if your team is steam rolling.

[stark saffron]

they one that cussed me out selected it before me specifically so that someone else could take it and that I couldn't. he said that in chat aswell.

[stark saffron]

your point being?

[sweet cliff]

But then you hadn't gotten to it first and had used it multiple times? Maybe someone else wanted to play it because someone clearly did

[ocean fjord]

You're the big daddy, the infants want stuff

[graceful terrace]

I will admit though, good recon teams are the bane of all commanders

[sweet cliff]

I wouldn't get that bent out if shape over some people on one server if they were rude, but maybe just maybe you weren't doing the top tier amazing job you think you were doing and there might be some lessons you could internalize regardless of how mean they might have been.

[stark saffron]

but that isn't the case though. he literally took it specifically so that I couldn't get it, and resigned so that someone else could.

like I said, he typed that in the chat so that's factual. it'd be different if someone else had simply just gotten it before me, instead of purposely making it so that I couldn't use it.

[graceful terrace]

Sometimes you get blamed for not putting up garries when in reality the enemy had two really great recon teams destroying them all

[stark saffron]

i just don't see how garrison placement was an issue, when the team already had perfect garrison placement. there was literally nothing I could do in terms of garrison placement, as it'd just be useless.

[graceful terrace]

Gotta defend the garries too. Let your team know if your back lines are insecure. You are the one back there the most.

[stark saffron]

they already knew of that and were on it though, I had spent most of the time fulfilling plenty of requests for supplies and such.

when it happened, which it often didn't. we also had a perfect amount of backup garrisons.

[graceful terrace]

Well you got to play commander three times right? That’s more than most players ever will in their hundreds of hours

[stark saffron]

I disagree. it's really not that difficult to become commander, as most of the time you simply have to be at the start of the match, and just select it first, which nobody really rushes for it in my hundreds of hours of playing, since it's recon that people tend to rush for instead. there have been too many times to count that I could've gotten commander but chose not to.

[graceful terrace]

Yes, well there is a reason people don’t select it. Gonna have to get used to not pleasing everyone, but still getting the job done.

[stark saffron]

crazy thing is, I've helped out so many brand new players being the tank commander, since it's all I ever really play, yet the first time I'm new to something it's me being harassed to death despite me doing pretty decent.

all because of one close loss out of three steamroll games where I was commander.

[graceful terrace]

Yeah it’s frustrating when someone says we lost because of you. When in reality it’s always the team that loses.

Before you let it go to your head though, remember those wins were not at your hand, but at the hand of your team.

Welcome to commanding.

[stark saffron]

thank you. that's exactly what they said to me; the loss is entirely on me, despite one individual not being able to single handedly win a game. i definitely did my part and listened to every single request that was asked of me within reason.

really, this whole situation just has me feeling like s*** though because of the circumstances. i'm just not too used to crazy toxicity towards me on that level just for trying to have a good time...

[pulsar spear]

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[sweet cliff]

<@&365680483276816385> ^

[tough plover]

Cheers Noodle

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[icy prawn]

Decision time after over five years of supporting “HELL LET LOOSE” as an original Kickstarter and Moderator I’ve concluded T17 since taking over from B.M. are making a total hash of this game and its no longer enjoyable to play with so many Bugs / Glitches. I’ve decided to UNINSTALL until the developers sort out this mess.

[still goblet]

Wish they'd do something about all these damned hackers

[gritty plaza]

Which hackers? There's surprisingly little

[still goblet]

The very low level account that headshots youw ith an MG from across the map kind

I am pretty sure there are a ton of hackers, given this game uses EAC

[last cloud]

At least on servers that share information about cheaters with other servers, there arent too many.
I cant speak for official servers or others that arent a part of that sharing of information

[gritty plaza]

We often get multiple cheating reports a day and 95% of them are clearly not cheating

[last cloud]

I see the same thing as you, where most reports arent cheating

[still goblet]

How can you know for sure someone isn't cheating?

[gritty plaza]

Because he's a sniper sitting on a building shooting people from 400 meters away getting one kill every five minutes.

[last cloud]

Server admins have tools to detect cheaters, including server logs and the ability to go into a camera and spectate a match, watching what players are doing

[still goblet]

You cannot see if people have ESP

[last cloud]

Server admins have actually figured that out many times

[still goblet]

Ah, so if you can see all this how come hackers are still a big problem in multiplayer games?

How can you distinguish a good player from someone who gets a little help hitting his headshots?

[last cloud]

Consistency is part of it, as is having the experience to know what is possible in game, and how players will normally act compared to cheaters.

I am not claiming its perfect, but through what server admins have done, they are able to keep their servers relatively cheater free (its impossible to say 100% of course).

Also, I like how you're shifting the goal posts. When are you going to provide proof about their being an infestation of script kiddies

[still goblet]

My point is you can't, if a hacker is careful and only gets a little it is essentially impossible to see

[last cloud]

Luckily, cheaters arent smart enough to do that (sure some are, but many arent)
And, server owners can ban based on different amounts of evidence, as well as watch people across multiple games to figure it out over time, in situations where the cheater is smart enough to be careful, as eventually they'll slip up

[still goblet]

If you were to check the last 1000 players I wouldn't be surprised if >= 1% of them have previously been caught hacking and banned by some of the other big anticheats

[last cloud]

Many servers will wait to get enough evidence that they think other servers will agree with them and ban the person across many servers, while others will just get enough proof to satisfy themselves

Server owners are able to see who has game bans and/or vac bans, and the vast majority of accounts have neither (that doesnt mean they didnt cheat in any game of course)

[autumn gate]

Most people download hacks

[last cloud]

That isnt something you can hide, and servers can auto ban people with either game or vac bans when they first connect

[autumn gate]

It’s sorta easy to find cheaters, of course it’s not perfect

[still goblet]

What about BattleEye bans?

I'd imagine BattleEye covers at lot more shooters simmilar to HLL

[last cloud]

If those bans result in game bans on steam, theyd be a part of this

[still goblet]

They aren't linked with steam

[last cloud]

So its something that doesnt matter to any game on steam, as it cant affect a steam account, got it

[still goblet]

It matters to games on steam that use BattleEye

[last cloud]

Thatd mean it could result in a game ban on steam, if the games publisher decided to do so, when you said it couldnt

[still goblet]

Might have heard of games like Arma 3, DayZ, or PUBG

BattleEye bans aren't linked with steam (other than the ban being tied to the steamid), of course the game developers might decide that to use steam game bans in addition to battleye

[last cloud]

Regardless, Ive gone over many of the ways that are used to counter cheaters, and you still havent made an argument as to how cheaters are prevalent

[sweet cliff]

What he's saying is that you can see the vac and game ban history of a player and take that into consideration.

(Through the steam API)

[still goblet]

Yes, and for every hacker you ban I'd bet there is a least one more who isn't hacking in a way that it can be seen

Someone did a video about in Tarkov some time ago, same thing was done for Battlefield where the guy found that it was between 1 in 16 and 1 in 32 players that were hacking

[sweet cliff]

How much impact does someone cheating who doesn't have above average performance really have on you?

I also get admin pings about bs cheating claims on the daily, so many people are mad because bad.

[last cloud]

So no actual argument beyond "I think so, so its true"

[still goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LfGcDB7Ek

[last cloud]

And with how eager people are to claim that anyone who kills them is a cheater, and how admins still investigate those reports, I assume that theyd be found and banned off many servers quickly

[autumn gate]

Tarkov is different

[sweet cliff]

I don't care about tarkov and don't think it's necessarily indicative in any way of the state of cheating in HLL

[autumn gate]

Tbh if one guy on a 32 man team is cheating it’s not a huge deal. Cheats aren’t an auto win. It’s not a huge issue

[last cloud]

So wheres the evidence of cheaters being everywhere in HLL? I bring up how theres many ways to deal with cheaters in HLL, while you just say "yeah, but what about this other game?"

[sweet cliff]

Stakes are much higher in an extraction shooter than HLL where round to round it doesn't matter, that's a more powerful incentive to cheat

[still goblet]

Can you tell me how you would be able to know whether someone has an ESP or not? If they are not obvoiusly looking at things through walls?

How about someone who has a 5% larger hitbox for the head of enemies?

[sweet cliff]

You judge player behavior, in any event this isn't a very productive conversation, believe what you want but HLL is not as festooned with cheaters as YouTube or the steam forums would have you believe.

[last cloud]

Let the server side hit registration checks realize that it wouldnt hit the players head, and deny the hit

You dont even know what types of cheats function in the game, and are claiming that cheaters are everywhere

[still goblet]

But do you agree that you cannot look through 100 players on a server definitively say if each is hacking or not?

[last cloud]

Why would you? If someone has only a single kill across a whole game, are you really going to check if theyre cheating?

We can see peoples k/d, kpm, total kills, and more, so we can prioritize looking at people who may be cheating and are having an impact on the game

[autumn gate]

It’s impossible to check everyone

[still goblet]

Exactly, there can be hackers who are subtle enough that they just look like a decent player

[autumn gate]

Yeah

[sweet cliff]

Also nobody but EAC has the data, for all we know they are banning hundreds of people a day before they even get into game

[autumn gate]

In any game, people can subtly cheat

[still goblet]

And if you can't tell these subtle hackers apart from other players, how would you know how many there are?

[sweet cliff]

That sure seems like a lot of words to say mad because bad, it's a game with low TTK and easy shooting. People get dumpstered by better shooters all day and start pinging admins

[autumn gate]

You wouldn’t

[sweet cliff]

So there could be 0, there could be a million, why is your claim valid? Justify it.

[last cloud]

Ive seen reports of those people getting banned still, as those players do get checked.

I said "why would you check the people with barely any kills" and you took that as "only check people who have tons of kills"

Ive never said they all get banned, but I would argue that most cheaters get banned

[autumn gate]

I’ve been called a cheater in a couple games a couple times

Like in WarThunder, people are very self righteous with that kind of stuff at times

[last cloud]

While youre still saying that there are tons of unknown cheaters in every game, and that they never get banned.
And all of this without any evidence about HLL

[still goblet]

I have seen several times where you walk up behind and MG, shoot them in the back of the head and they just turn around and shoot you

Or when you headshot, hear the ding and stats page says you did not get a kill

[last cloud]

Thats hit reg being terrible, not a cheat

[autumn gate]

I don’t call anyone a cheater unless I can see their perspective, god knows what his view is, or what ping/latency is going on

[still goblet]

There is also the someone shooting you through walls from the other end of the map

[autumn gate]

That’s impossible, I don’t think god mode cheats exist

[still goblet]

Give me a couple of minutes I'll show you a video of it

[last cloud]

Finally, you mention an actual cheat that isnt just a vague claim of "ESP"
Though you pick a trivial one to prove

[last cloud]

Thats just hit reg being bad, as your client thinks you got a hit and plays the sound before the server confirms or denies the hit

[autumn gate]

Keep in mind lucky shots exist. So many times I decide to shot for no reason and kill somebody, in many games. Especially in a game where 1 shot is a kill

[sweet cliff]

It's client side for animations and sound and server side verification and server performance has been notoriously bad the last few updates, if the server disagrees with the hit it doesn't really happen regardless of what you saw on your screen.

[last cloud]

The conversations on the bad hit reg have gone on for a long time, and are responsible for so many claims of cheating

Heres one of the old devs claiming that its impossible for a cheat to modify your max health/not take damage:
#mess-hall message

Of course, you shouldnt trust that completely, as hacks are by nature breaking how a game is supposed to work, but I think its safe to take away from this that any time you shoot someone and they survive, its far more likely to be due to hit registration errors rather than a cheat that is said to not exist (even if you cant be 100% sure).
Now, if you could prove that it wasnt a hit registration issue, thatd be very interesting and an important discovery

[still goblet]

You of course don't need to be able to modify damage to make it appear as if you aren't taking any damage either

[sweet cliff]

Hit detection happens on my client and is sent to the game server for verification, by what mechanism can your modified client pretend it isn't getting hit

[last cloud]

Yeah, how does your client tell the server you didnt get hit when the server tells you that you were hit?

[still goblet]

I don't know if it is possible or not, but the client knows the bullet is coming so it could move the player

[sweet cliff]

Some of these cheats only work because the client is aware of other players positions even though it isn't displaying them, if my client knows where you are and says I hit you, how does your hacked client stop that, if it's reporting a different position then my client isn't even rendering you there because it thinks you're somewhere else

I see now we've moved on to magical hypothetical hack land

[last cloud]

Heres a quote from that same dev talking about how hit reg works:
#mess-hall message

The person being shot is not involved at all besides the last step, where their health is updated

[still goblet]

You don't shhot and hit, the bullet has to travel so there would be advance knowledge of an impending hit

[sweet cliff]

And guess what, if that existed we can see you bouncing around to dodge bullets, that would be incredibly easy to visually verify and ban

[sweet cliff]

Client sends updates to the server server sends updates to your client, you don't know I've shot you or not until the server tells you.

[still goblet]

No, but the client is aware of the bullets and can see if one is coming to hit you

[sweet cliff]

It's aware because the server which does hit verification is telling you about it.

[still goblet]

The client is aware of the bullet before the hit

It is the same math you would do for an aimbot to hit something, you just apply it to other players and see if they would hit you

[last cloud]

How long do you think it takes for bullets to travel? People drop almost instantly after you click to shoot, so there isnt time for the server to send data to your client saying a bullet is aimed at you and for your client to then send data back saying "no I was elsewhere"

[sweet cliff]

Your client is getting updated player positions from the server every tick.

[last cloud]

And do you think there wouldnt be a check on the server side to detect a client changing its position suddenly to avoid hits?

[still goblet]

If you can bypass the animation time and know someone will headshot you you can cruch and stand back up to "dodge" it

[sweet cliff]

Even if there wasn't that would be as obvious and easy to ban over as the speed hacks, trivial.

[still goblet]

Wasn't there a bug with the animation speed and going prone recently?

[sweet cliff]

You think this would be a player reacting to 'incoming bullets' that the hack is telling them about and they'd duck before getting shot? That's lunacy, absolute best you'd be getting is an indicator that someone is aimed at you which I am fairly certain I've seen video of existing

[still goblet]

No the hack does the reacting

[last cloud]

So you're back to just speculating on cheats instead of actually discussing what cheats exist.

Also, lets say that this cheat you're imagining does exist:
How do you hide it? As the person shooting you would see it on their end, and so would anyone else watching them, and then an admin would ban them

[still goblet]

If the hack can bypass animation speed it could crouch for the frame where the bullet with hit (perhaps with margin of error) and stand back up

[last cloud]

Well then, we just need a check on the server for if someone does that for a frame or two, bypassing the animation. And the cheat is then pointless

[sweet cliff]

And why do you think player stance, which is sent to the server and replicated out to everyone else would be able to do this before the server would using its knowledge of your position already not register the hit

[last cloud]

Thats another point thats being ignored.

Similar to the point of there being no known cheat that does this

[still goblet]

You asked for an example of how a cheat could make you not take damage and I provided one

[last cloud]

And we brought up how that wouldnt work given the hit reg system

And how even if it did, itd be easy to discover and so would get blocked

[still goblet]

The server could etect it, if the evs bother ading it

But given there is a way to shoot through walls currently I doubt it would check something like that

[last cloud]

You do know that bullet penetration is a mechanic in the game, right?

[still goblet]

I have been shot through walls, by hackers, where the admin spectated and banned because they were indeed shooting people through walls

[sweet cliff]

For that to work your client would have to send the updates to the server, those position/stance updates would be replicated to all the other clients and you could see it happening.

[still goblet]

Where the server did not catch that they were shooting through walls

[last cloud]

And the cheat that "allows people to shoot through walls" doesnt actually do that, but instead tricks the server into thinking that you're in a different position than where you actually are

[sweet cliff]

Yes people cheat, and they generally get banned for it, that's what we've been telling you.

[still goblet]

If you give me your email I'll be happy to send you the video of that

[still goblet]

You also say that the server can check the animations to make sure somethign funny isn't going on, when it currently doesn't even check if a bullet is going across the map through wall which cannot be penetrated

[last cloud]

Yeah, thats a common cheat that is trivial to ban people for. They also do it with melee, grenades, mines, etc.

You just check the logs, find out whos doing it, spectate them to watch them doing it, and then ban them

[sweet cliff]

I'm not saying the server would check it, but that it would replicate that out to other clients and people could see it happening

[last cloud]

Like I said, thats not how the cheat works. They arent actually shooting through the wall, thats just the laymans explanation of it

[still goblet]

But doesn't it seem a bit weak then claiming all these thinks the server could check to ban, when basic things like whether a bullet is going through something it should or not isn't even something that is checked?

[sweet cliff]

We are saying that most of this stuff is verifiable through watching a player and their behavior and actions and that leads to bans

[last cloud]

That literally is checked, how else would the bullet penetration system work? And why arent you shooting through everything?

[still goblet]

I'll happily send you a video that shows it isn't check, just DM your email

[last cloud]

Like I said, heres how the cheat actually works

It also happens with melee, grenades, mines, etc. And is an easy one to catch and ban for once you start looking

[sweet cliff]

People cheat, that's not up for debate, we're arguing that it isn't nearly as many people as you seem to think.

[still goblet]

Yes you agreed with me earlier that there are hacker subtle enough that you cannot tell them apart from a normal player

Which would imply that you can only speak of the hackers that you do see

[sweet cliff]

Yes, it is possible for someone to cheat and bring their skill level up from mediocre to slightly less mediocre, how much is that impacting your life though to the extent it is actually happening.

It takes a very clever, careful and dedicated person to be able to cheat, and consistently do it in a deniable fashion

[last cloud]

There have been players like that, who do get reported a lot of cheating and are watched, and eventually they slip up and get banned

[sweet cliff]

Only takes one slip up for someone to pan with someone through walls.

[last cloud]

Both NoodleArms and I have seen many videos of cheaters, reported by many different servers, and both of us have also found many cheaters ourselves

[still goblet]

Yeah, but until they do they have a negative impact on other players

[sweet cliff]

Okay, you are not wrong that some unknown percentage of the player base may be cheating to a degree that they are indistinguishable from a normal player in every way, what is your proposed solution or conclusion to that?

[still goblet]

Imagine the players that report people like these initially and everyone just goes off about how they are mad and/or bad and the guy isn't hacker, and it turns out he actually was hacking

[sweet cliff]

Its 0 < x < 100 percent

[still goblet]

And I'm sure we agree that there is more that the game/servers could do

[sweet cliff]

Well you don't have to believe us but people go and investigate and they have better tools to verify it than someone just playing the game

[last cloud]

Ive mentioned some of those tools, but he just ignored them claiming they dont matter since they cant instantly detect every single cheater the instant they show up

[sweet cliff]

Not necessarily you, but many people die and jump immediately to the person who killed them was cheating, and throw a temper tantrum anout it

We get these pings almost every single day, and someone takes time out of their life to go and watch a player, and the vast majority of the time there is no credible evidence a person is cheating

[last cloud]

If there is any suspicion that the person is cheating, they'll be watched and potentially even mentioned to other servers at that point, to keep an eye on them

[sweet cliff]

There's often times evidence that the player isn't cheating, like ignoring players they could otherwise see.

Game server performance is in the toilet, ttk is low and shooting is easy, there's also things like asset culling that lets people see people at distance and shoot at them when there's objects in the way.

[still goblet]

Sadly I have also at times been immediatly after reporting someone that they weren't hacking, where the admin didn't even want to look at the video I had

[sweet cliff]

Client side video is almost useless, great you died, I don't have a 360 degree view of you

[next oasis]

I've been banned from a server for "moving too quick and headshotting everyone" before

funny enough, this was while sprint was slow as hell

[last cloud]

When Ive looked into it, Ive never really looked at the victim's videos either and instead get into the game and watch from admin cam, to get better evidence

[sweet cliff]

Client side video can also be deceptive in many cases, if the server hasn't sent you updates you can be behind on other players stance, position and direction they're facing

Because the tick rate is bad.

[last cloud]

Yeah, some servers are too quick to ban due to not understanding whats possible in game. Its important for the people making decisions on it to have a good understanding of whats possible

[still goblet]

Like how you can hover up in the sky in carentan, or all the bushes and walls which aren't visible at all distances

[sweet cliff]

Believe me when I say we want to remove anyone cheating from a server as badly or more than you do

[sweet cliff]

That carentan thing isn't actually a cheat that's an exploit because of goofy map stuff they need to patch

[last cloud]

And the second thing you mentioned is LOD issues, not cheating. Which the devs also need to fix

[sweet cliff]

And you're also describing asset culling which happens for performance reasons, but unfortunately can happen within 500m which is the max distance you can see infantry at

[still goblet]

There are also some bushes that dramatically change how see through they are depending on whether you hold your breath or not

[sweet cliff]

At best you're describing exploits, whether or not exploits count as cheats is debatable but none of that is what people traditionally mean by cheating which would be a hacked client

[last cloud]

Yeah, we know about the issue where you can make all the terrain dissappear.
Thats still just an exploit that the devs need to fix

[still goblet]

Doubt they will though, the devs seem to have it made it pretty clear that they don't really care

Just look at how they released the british DLC with a bunch of the new weapons with misaligned iron sights. Had they ever placed a ping while aiming the MG it would have been abundantly clear that they were messed up

[sweet cliff]

There's nearly an uncountable number of ways they could do better.

[last cloud]

Once again, this is straying from what you were originally claiming, which is that theres tons of cheaters in every match.

Talking about the things the devs could do better is beating a long dead horse

[still goblet]

Grenades have been broken ever since I started playing the game in October, apparently they are aware of this but still haven't fixed it

I'd guess the aim is to add new shiny look stuff to keep seeling the game while ignoring all the bugs and things they break

[last cloud]

Thats a networking issue, as far as I can tell, and will probably never be fixed due to that as the netcode is far too strained and they want to add even more stuff

The netcode has always been strained and close to its limit, with the old devs saying that adding 1 or 2 more player slots for admin cam would be too much

[still goblet]

Was super annoying when I spend a bunch of time to unlock the MG42 only to find out the gun and sights would turn invisible when ADS'ing with it, that one actually got fixed a couple of updates later

[gloomy grove]

T17 to blame for bugs that occurred before they took over

[autumn rose]

If you buy a car that needs an oil change and you run it till the engine seizes who has to deal with the broken car

[ocean fjord]

just buy a new car

[autumn gate]

The president

[boreal heath]

is there an lfg to find squads before getting ingame?

[unkempt storm]

#pc-looking-for-unit 🙂

[boreal heath]

youre amazing thx

[outer thistle]

Hey all, have any clans confirmed the PIAT and Panzerschreck penetration and ricochet surfaces on tanks for Driel and El Alamein?

The trusty tank bible hasn't updated this yet, but I'm putting together a community resource in e-tool. Was going to ask for some help in this area if it's willing to be shared. Cheers

[violet idol]

🤣 for a second....i thought you ment actually holding your breath 🤦‍♂️🤪

[graceful jungle]

im really struggling to see the enemy

[unkempt storm]

Sometimes the only enemy is within ourselves 🙏

-ancient Chinese proverb

[brave ruin]

concerning

[tight topaz]

That is Actually concerning 😐

[final peak]

I, like many others, are not playing the game currently because of the negative changes brought my team17

[livid condor]

Battlebit

[lost atlas]

With stiff competition from battle bit, and the recent changes to hell let loose team17 brought. They essentially shot themselves in the foot that’ll continually loose players, n essentially kill what once was a perfectly good and fun game.

Used to be one of my favorite games but now I see myself playing more and more battle bit and squad instead of HLL. Lowkey sad to see

[wooden dock]

sad none really suses flamethrowers. And i see no reason why turning with a flame thrower should be slower than turning a tank... i mean im pretty sure could wave that thing around pretty easy

Suggest normal turning (aiming speed) and longer range

Make Flamethrowes great again campaign is in order

[autumn rose]

Hey just FYI guys if battlebit adds mod support this game is sunk

[sonic oracle]

We live in the new age of micro balancing everything

[dawn widget]

bit let loose

[autumn rose]

Yeah

[hollow grotto]

ye i agree - havent played since the britain update dropped a few weeks back and wont be returning after that trailer

[shell basalt]

what happened?

[final peak]

The game was acquired by Team17, and theyve released updates that, while adding content, many in the community have felt isn't the right content, or what hell let loose needs right now.

A lot of the stuff theyve changed is unrealistic compared to black matters additions

As well as they made the game look like a mobile game at the summer game awards, and shifted the game to more casual players.

[violet prawn]

If you even mention the much better running speed I am going to slap you because every single argument against that is just awful

No offense but yeesh that has gotten annoying

[mortal estuary]

Welcome to the Soviet Union

[wooden dock]

The new maps are great... i have no problem with the new content except for the rubber banding and new graphic bugs that came along with it... and the english weapons need some fine tuning maybe... But as far as new maps and new weapons go... Always a bonus for any game

[nova flower]

The No.4 rifle does go hard, I’m glad I just have it unlocked already for every class I play that can use it

[wooden dock]

I been looking forward to the flamethrowers since first announcement.. Then to wait that long to get something that none will ever use was such a let down

i know they came out ages ago so probably seems strange to bring them up now.. Its just noticing that i havent seen anyone use one on any of the maps in months

They were meant to give me morning wood as illustrated in this picture

🤣

[unkempt storm]

That is a mean plank

[gritty plaza]

morning workout

[wooden dock]

thast what it looks like when you been on the front lines for too long and havent seen a woman in months

[fallen oar]

If you new to this game this YouTuber might help you out on each class from Commander to Normal classes https://www.youtube.com/@SoulSniperYT and pretty much everything you need to know about hell let loose (not a prom just a tip and help for new players.)

[thorny seal]

Hey guys, I've been thinking of getting HLL for a while now and I really want to get it but recently I've heard that the new devs are taking the game into a more Arcade type game instead of a realistic military sim. Should I still get it?

[vague ferry]

😐 random squads is dumb. Need some friends

[humble basin]

nope.. don't buy the game please. even if it might be free on gamepass or similar.. don't download it..

i know, it's a shame.. u don't want to play this washed down version of now.

they even announced more "exciting changes", coming up soon(!)
while ignoring the nuclear meltdown within the community...

bad devs are the norm currently.
i've just uninstalled my favorite fps game ever since 2003. second favorite one was day of defeat, running on hl engine 1.6.

that game died aswell, guess thats life 🤷

[mystic stump]

Damn you've been bitter about shooters for the last 20 years? Doesn't seem like any game will meet your standards.

[next oasis]

it's not any more "arcade" than it was years ago. It was never a realistic military sim. Don't fall for the sensationalism

That said, it is a very boring FPS game, for sure

[mystic stump]

It never was a realistic mil sim, it's the reason it has as much appeal as it does. But it's not totally arcadey, either. It hits a good middle ground, which is why I got into it. However, I haven't stayed for the gunplay, I've stayed because it hits that middle ground for me. P.S. with its canteens is too faux-realism for me, and RS2'S maps- and player count- aren't large enough to really sink my teeth into

[humble basin]

i'm talking about my alltime favs.
doesn't mean i've been bitter. quite the opposite. i'm bitter now tho, yes.

theres hope on the horizon. there are other promising games coming up.

[last snow]

I’m still having some hope that valve will make some kind of sequel to DODS or like a source 2 engine import for the game and add some new content, highly doubt it though since the remaining people who deved, DODS work in TF2 now

[fading cloud]

I'd like to join an english speaking regiment

[velvet canyon]

Hello all
A en speaking division 404. GebirgsJäger, is looking for active people, your rank does not matter. Currently there are 5 spaces opened in the 4th Guard platoon under my command.
If interested DM me

[timber rune]

Looking for some mic users to help fill in my squad

[gaunt lava]

what did they expect?

[gray cairn]

New to HLL- looking for vocal squad to play with. Experienced SQUAD player so Im sure it will translate well.

[white sentinel]

Yes. It’s a fun game.

[gray cairn]

Any community I can join? No one has mics in these randoms

[gritty plaza]

Have a look at #pc-divisions-recruitment

I could recommend you WTH but as a member I may be a little biased 😊

[unique patrol]

Anybody here trying to get an armor squad together? Its hard finding 2 competent people to man a tank with you.

[frank pond]

Anyone looking for a casual group to game with, 3AC is active every day and would love to have you! My DMs are open for anyone interested!

[coral oasis]

Looking for an armor squad to join

[tight topaz]

#console-looking-for-unitWould be a perfect place to look for fellow HLL players. 🙂

[crude quarry]

Dont buy it . Trust a 5000 Hour guy . Go Play some battlebits

[gloomy grove]

Cope more

[latent falcon]

if anyone is running armor hmu in pm 🙂 im pretty good driver

[sour geyser]

cant play so many Chinese

they dont even communicate

[brave ruin]

Testing the performance patch from T17 on Glow's Battlegrounds US West if anyone wants to try. We need feedback to give to the devs. Thanks

[autumn rose]

Nah but battlebit is pretty good tho

[crude quarry]

Everyday

[gritty plaza]

Cope on top!

[frank pond]

battlebit is nothing close to HLL There is no reason to say hey go buy battlebit over HLL

[torn swift]

Yes there is

[brave ruin]

damn

[crude quarry]

Says who

[frank pond]

👀

[grim tinsel]

You want the battlefield game EA should’ve made at the draw back of graphics but having a nearly destructible environment, with 127v127, and a pretty good prox chat when you’re down. Not to mention the game cost 15 bucks.

the games pretty fun though, I wouldn’t recommend it over others, but it’s a great game to past time while other games get updated.

[tight topaz]

Damn

[vestal marsh]

? i mean there is lol

actually yeah battlebit wasnt sold to another company and then completely ruined so its nothing close xD

[upbeat kelp]

crazy

[torn swift]

Or to pass time while it dies a slow painful death

[frank pond]

battlebit is a filler game that will even out soon, its fun but its not really comparable to anything but battlefield lol

[pulsar spear]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE STARTING SOON** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[pulsar spear]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[cursive dagger]

Do you get any of the XP if you have to leave a server before the game ends or is it all lost? I've had some decent games but couldn't stay the whole hour or got disconnected from the server. Thanks!

[sweet cliff]

You only miss out on end of round bonuses

[cursive dagger]

Thanks!

[velvet canyon]

Hello all
A en speaking division 404. GebirgsJäger, is looking for active people, your rank does not matter. Currently there are 3 spaces opened in the 4th Guard platoon under my command.
If interested DM me

[tough wind]

Hello! What is a good role to start out as, or what should I do as a beginner?

[sweet cliff]

Read the new players guide, it's pinned in here, then just go hog wild, play anything you want as long as you're contributing to the team, for instance if you're support and the SL needs supplies, go drop them or don't play the role

[tough wind]

Alrighty. Thank you! I always forget that pins are a thing

[sweet cliff]

and the tank bible will answer all your AT class questions https://theline.gg/tankbible/#top

[tough wind]

Alrighty, I will take a look at it. Thanks!

[tough wind]

I will try them out

[tight topaz]

I like MG and Assault riflemen.

[limpid hemlock]

I've climbed up to rank 20 almost purely on medic and mg

[limpid hemlock]

Is there a way to tell from the server list which side is playing defense on offensive?

[dawn widget]

are u talking about the offensive mode because if it says offensive ger it means the germans are on the offensive or off gb, off us

[dawn widget]

i would like to join a squad

[unkempt storm]

#pc-looking-for-unit for casual groups, #pc-divisions-recruitment for “clans” 🙂

[dawn widget]

thank you

#pc-divisions-recruitment

[void zodiac]

i’m new

[prime totem]

is there any looking for group vc's

[valid dawn]

hi all, just started playing a few days ago loving how chill and relaxed it is in game

[wild moth]

engineer is proberbly the best, you learn the ropes whilst helping the team

[violet prawn]

Rifleman is also a very solid class to start off as. It's a simple class, with a simple purpose in life

Shoot people!

[wooden hedge]

can someone gimmy a run down on this game i just got it.

[white sentinel]

Build nodes if you want to level roles.
Sniper can only be selected if you join recon squad second.
If you are officer role, put down OPs often.

[velvet canyon]

Hello all
A en speaking division 404. GebirgsJäger, is looking for active people, your rank does not matter. Currently there are 3 spaces opened in the 4th Guard platoon under my command.
If interested DM me

[brave ruin]

new U15 content? 👀

[buoyant burrow]

i think friendly fire might end up even more common 😂

[burnt ember]

im 16 and just got the game im looking for someone (preferably someone younger ) to teach me the games basics and how to have a good time

[summer fossil]

🤨

[undone pilot]

🤩

[stoic hollow]

be careful you’ll get perma muted for this

[umbral epoch]

@pliant compass don’t ping me btw

[pliant compass]

It's a reply

[umbral epoch]

It was a ping

Like I just said don’t ping me

[tough wind]

Could always mute Pings. If you don’t want to be pinged.

[umbral epoch]

Just don’t ping me

[pliant compass]

🤷‍♂️oh well

Blame the 2 hour cool down on suggestions I guess

[umbral epoch]

Fr

[coral rock]

Hey guys

im looking for the chat where i can get discord Tech help on some errors ive been having with HLL. All forums point to the HLL discord

[tough wind]

I think it would be in #1097866142028152944

[coral rock]

thanks wasnt sure because the forum said #tech-solutions which im not seeing

[tough wind]

Tap on that # you just typed, should take you there. It did for me

[coral rock]

says i dont have permission to reply in there

[tough wind]

Huh. No clue

[unkempt storm]

The #tech-solutions is largely there for prior and known solutions for common issues, not so much as a discussion channel. As mentioned above, if your issue isn't addressed in the solutions, feel free to post your issue in #1097866142028152944 and either another (more tech savy) moderator or team17 support will reply 🙂

[coral rock]

appreciate the help thank you!

[stable mist]

hello, i come here to ask for commander tips pls
played 4 games as command and those 4 games it felt like my team was just stagnating a lot, especially middle point (2 of those games went on for an hour)

i did use as much as i could command abilities, built garries and was very vocal with the team (well, with the squad leads that talks atleast), made sure to ping everything as soon as a squad lead detected something, dropped tanks,supplies whenever and whereever needed, etc
my strategy was usually 2 squads defense all others attack

and still that wasn't enough, yet i did everything i could with all the information that i was ever given, and gave orders accordingly as well

i am inclined to think i'm missing something since i've lost the 4 games and 2 of those stagnated a lot, and when i don't play command i don't remember ever going an hour over middle point
(an actual whole hour)

[ocean fjord]

The game depends more on the officers than the commander.

[stable mist]

yeah half of my officers didn't talk and the other half theres only 1/2 team i can say actually relayed my orders to their squadmates(excluding recon, where they usually did a good job keeping arty off)

at the 4th game i realized i might as well say the orders out loud in chat because it didn't seem anyone was listening

you might be right, i want to think that my strategy of 2 teams defense all others attack is flawed but when i think about it i can't really put up any better strategy when i have no idea/info relayed to me as to where the enemies are attacking from

which was the case for the first 3 games
i go case sensitive of course, if i have any infos i'll come up with something on the spot
and even when i did have infos at some point about a recon tank being a threat near a garry no squad lead relayed to their AT the info so i type it up in chat, 2 AT spawns but they miss and run out of ammo, then we lost the garry anyway

well, apologies for the "rant". just frustrating a lot to lose my first games as commander considering i didnt touch it up until now a 100 hours in

[steep ore]

Im a new player

Anyone wanna help a M8 out?

[vernal vale]

You'll have better luck over here:
#console-looking-for-unit

[tight topaz]

Hey man Welcome to the Discord , If your looking for fellow HLL PC players this is the place to go #pc-looking-for-unit 🙂

[dawn widget]

Suuuuppp

[unkempt storm]

waaaaZZZZuuuPPP

[dawn widget]

WAAAAZZUUUUUPPP

[valid vigil]

WeeeeeeeeEEEHHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUU

[marble sonnet]

hi boizzz

[still goblet]

Game crashes, click button to send crash report in the crash detector that pop ups, crash detector throws an error.... great

[sweet cliff]

<@&365680483276816385> ^

[vernal vale]

Thank you.

[sick cape]

hey i cannot connect to a server even whe i refresh

do any of you know how to fix this it was happening yesterday

[green siren]

Verify game files, what message are you getting?

[dawn widget]

No one uses a mic anymore, T17 sure got a braoder audience

[dusk berry]

I’m a level 120 and I still consider myself a new recruit, always learning

[marble ridge]

hey im new to the game. can anyone help me out explaining how to play and stuff? Please and thank you!

[wooden narwhal]

check the channel pins - first video is for you

[marble ridge]

Thanks!

[spring tinsel]

anyone down to play

[tight topaz]

#pc-looking-for-unit Would be the perfect place to look for fellow HLL Players. 🙂

[prisma harbor]

3 matches in a row, flawless victories.

[astral oyster]

yo just got the game yesterday so kinda new anyone down to play

[tight topaz]

Hey Man, Welcome to the Server,

If your looking for fellow HLL Players, This is the perfect place #pc-looking-for-unit . 🙂

[hollow chasm]

how am i supposed to see enemies

[indigo heart]

There is a YouTuber called soulsniper that makes great guides and how to see enemies is one of them, watch all of his guides to better understand the game, I have been playing for over 30 hours and I go back to watch those guides when I want to play a class i dont play normally.

[dusty patrol]

havent seen you on in a long time

must be in a space thats safe

[bronze oracle]

i cant find the practice mode/test range

[gloomy grove]

There isn't one.

[bronze oracle]

wtf thats dumb

[unkempt storm]

One is coming 🙂

[merry glacier]

soonTM

[potent yew]

Hi, sorry... how could I join a squad? im learning, still a noob, but I want to improve

[unkempt storm]

#pc-divisions-recruitment #console-divisions-recruitment 🙂

[potent yew]

thx ^^

[spiral meadow]

hi there i need help to see if my pc is able to cope with the game it got 16GB of ram, Quadro k5000 graphics card and a e5-1620 processor (was used for CAD) anyone know if this is good enough to play?

[gritty plaza]

I've heard of neither CPU and GPU before so that's a pretty bad sign

That a Xeon CPU?

Looked it up. That's a big no from me 😅

[spiral meadow]

its old but gold plays pubg with zero issues and battlefront 2 so idk if i can compare it do this game thats why thought id ask before i risk it and regret it

[gritty plaza]

Maybe if you wanna target 1080p at 30 FPS you'll get okay-ish results, but no guarantees.

[sweet cliff]

you've got a 2 hour refund window you can buy it fire it up and see how it plays

[gritty plaza]

For a Xeon you got some decent clock speeds, but not sure how well it holds up against newer hardware.

[spiral meadow]

ye thats a shout i mean i always run high settings on most games at sit at 65 frames

[spiral meadow]

how is this game compared to bf5 cuz that game was gold especially the sniping

[gritty plaza]

I wouldn't compare it to BF5. In fact, it's quite different from practically every game out there.

[dawn finch]

battlefield is a snipe fest, which i hate. it was good before tho

[gritty plaza]

Better to watch some videos for new players and get an impression from those.

Other than the concept of shooting enemies with guns and the game being set in WW2, both games don't have much in common. Different objectives, different mechanics, different gameplay loop.

[spiral meadow]

well ill buy it cuz why not, and ill see how i feel

[dense kernel]

bf5 no longer update

not many player in The server

[gritty plaza]

I would still recommend you watch some videos. The first 5-10 hours are too chaotic. Do yourself, and the rest of the team, a favor and don't jump in completely blind :)

If you decide to stick with, you'll understand, eventually

[spiral meadow]

doing that whilst i wait for download

[dense kernel]

buy it on steam and you dont like it just refund it

2 hours

[spiral meadow]

ye that's the plan i know i will like it as although different type of game reminds me of bf5, call of duty world at war and cd ww2. from what ive heard from old mates its good fun

[pulsar spear]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE STARTING SOON** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[pulsar spear]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[gloomy grove]

It doesn't play like any of the games you've just mentioned

[gloomy grove]

@coarse spoke where did your message go 😦

[gritty plaza]

I took it

For in my collection

[gloomy grove]

They're just your alt. You've always wanted to call me an idiot, I know

[manic shell]

No. Never. Chinese involvement and military significance in WW2 was close to none.

[acoustic jackal]

False, lookup "The China Marines" the Chinese were just getting their buts handed to them.

I want to see the Pacific theater and authentic outfits for the Japanese.

[manic shell]

This is mostly incorrect. While the China Marines did exist, their involvement was no where near the scale of any other nation and their significance was near nothing.

[acoustic jackal]

Agreed but the Marine corps was also present in India, the Philippines, all over the Japanese were a major presence in the war and most of that history is overlooked

[manic shell]

It’s very unlikely that we will see China as a playable force.

[acoustic jackal]

That's why I'm saying we should rather see the Japanese

[manic shell]

@dense kernel We will see Japanese forces, but China will never make it into the game.

[acoustic jackal]

That's fine just make sure you change the outfits from the army to the Marine corps for me

[gaunt crescent]

Hey anyone know where I can contact ppl from the BZRK clan

Voip absolutely sucks on Xbox and I couldn’t talk to the them at all when I joined their squad

[unkempt storm]

@tropic geyser is the only person I can find using the tag, can’t find a discord link, but maybe shoot them a message 🙂

(How you don’t mind the tag)

[tropic geyser]

@gaunt crescent whaddup playa

[tropic geyser]

Don't mind it at all. My first reaction was who the fook is this guy hahaha

[gaunt crescent]

Lol sent you a PM

[upper ridge]

wait so does Hell Let Loose work on Xbox One S?

[unkempt storm]

Yesssssir

[upper ridge]

Ok I’m just confused

Bc when I look on the Xbox store, it shows “Not supported on this device”, but it also says it works on Xbox One S, which is what I have

[unkempt storm]

Ah, that is peculiar. Unfortunately I’m not quite well versed in the topic - @vernal vale or @main bough may have some insight, if needed 😦

[upper ridge]

I’d just rather buy it now if it’s playable, since it’s on sale

Like this is just confusing, I have a One S 💀💀

[gloomy grove]

It's not compatible with Xbox one

[main bough]

It only works on the Series S\X. Not on Xbox One.

[gloomy grove]

Legit one of the the worst naming conventions ever

[main bough]

No doubt.

It only is good on the most modern versions. Xbox Series S\X and PS5

[upper ridge]

dude that’s annoying

I thought Xbox One S and Xbox Series S was the same thing

[vernal vale]

I hope the others caught this in time, if not Microsoft are pretty good about such refunds but it really is a ridiculous naming system.

I understand PS1 to PS5 isn't inventive, but at least it's clear enough my grandparents could understand it.

[manic shell]

Why are there so many Xbox consoles…?

Xbox needs to die fr. Bloat machine at this point.

[celest sail]

Man my VOIP is not working and its really pissing me off

None of the Team 17 help stuff is working its completely useless

[last cloud]

Can you hear other people? Or is it not working at all?

[celest sail]

I cant hear other people and I cant speak

VOIP connection status is constantly disconnected with no way to connect

[unkempt storm]

https://tenor.com/view/krule-john-c-reilly-what-face-reaction-gif-16881707

[vernal vale]

If none of the typical troubleshooting is working there's a good chance it's an issue with the VOIP Service itself and unfortunately there's little you or are I can do about that directly.

Can you elaborate on your issue at all, is it recent, have you previously used VOIP without said issue?

[celest sail]

I downloaded the game yesterday again, but when I was playing in 2020 it was working fine, every time I go in to settings and hit reconnect to VOIP because its disconnected, it waits for a bit then does nothing

[last cloud]

It hasnt worked since you redownloaded it, right? Just trying to get what information I can from you to help troubleshoot it

[celest sail]

Yeah it hasnt worked

[last cloud]

First thing that comes to my mind is that your anti virus/router/firewall may be blocking the game from connecting to the VOIP server

[celest sail]

Ill let hll through the antivirus hold up

[vernal vale]

That may be your issue, as whilst there's a chance the service is hiccuping the reports usually flood in quickly.

[last cloud]

Since he said it hasnt connected at all, I think its something blocking his client from connecting to the server.

If its not one of the things I mentioned, it might be out of your control

[celest sail]

Ive tryed letting HLL through the firewall, it comes up with 3 HLL's which ive accepted it all, yh its not working probably just out of my control

[last cloud]

If you have some technical knowledge, you could try downloading Wireshark and finding the IP address for the VOIP server, and maybe some more info on why its not working.
And could also try a ping/traceroute, to see if you can figure out if the issue is with a hop on the way to it.

But that would require some technical knowledge to understand Wireshark's output

[celest sail]

Thx for the help btw I appreciate it

Btw im not sure if it helps but I cant do the microphone check in game because it says : 'you can only do a microphone check after joining an active game'

[last cloud]

You need to be connected to a server for it to work

Were you doing it without joining a game server?

[celest sail]

Nah I was in one

[autumn rose]

I doubt Wireshark would give him info on the failed packet transfer

[last cloud]

Strange that it would say that while you were on the server

[last cloud]

Only if there was a packet sent back saying a reason for the connection to fail, which it likely wouldnt

[autumn rose]

It's a negotiation, your client opens a session session their voip servers, you send UDP data via their connection and then the server reads it as is. If you could see how much made it to their voip server maybe but Wireshark won't show that far.

[last cloud]

Though if it thinks youre not on the server while you are, that could be the cause of the issue (but I have no idea how to fix that)

[autumn rose]

If a connection failure happens maybe but that would cause your client to show a disconnected status which tends to not be what happens.

[last cloud]

Yeah, I mentioned wireshark mainly for finding the IP to then try other checks to see if he could even reach it.
I couldve specified better that itd be very unlikely to get a return packet from it though, when I mentioned the chance of one

[gloomy grove]

Xbox one S or X = not work

Xbox Series S or X = work

[unkempt storm]

Who came up with this

They know the number two exists right?

[buoyant burrow]

smh! a mod giving bad advice! and of all mods it had to be you! 😏 😂

But yea i can defo understand the confusion there, typical Microsoft!

[tawny pulsar]

Without context, thats funny 🙂

[tight topaz]

Hahah Fr man, I took a lil break from HLL but I'm just starting up again and playing it,

If you ever see me as commander just pop in to say hello. 🙂

[dawn finch]

i keep commenting "Hell Let Loose" on then and now picture from WW2 and now on tiktok post

👽

[fervent surge]

hey - are there clans here, or lfg channels?

[unkempt storm]

#pc-divisions-recruitment #pc-looking-for-unit 🙂

[tight topaz]

Welcome to the Official HLL discord Soldier.

[dawn widget]

how do i know which type of round im loading either AP or HE because all i see is 1/2 in the buttons and i dont know which is which

[sweet cliff]

If it's an AT gun the UI is just not helpful and you only have AP

[dawn widget]

oh

they should update that

[outer viper]

Hey guys I’m wondering if any one would be able to give me hell let loose I don’t have the money to spend it on this but really want to play it

[fervent surge]

dang I shoulda tried this before I paid for it 😄

[outer viper]

aha

[trim marten]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-rogers-nightmare-clown-gif-5401671

[tight topaz]

@outer viper If you work as a window washer you will have enough to buy the game in 1hr. 🙂

[trim marten]

No sense in logic here, friend

[warped wing]

is there a lookin for squad type channel in this server

[pale wren]

^^ thats what im looking for

[warped wing]

just tryna find a tank squad 💀

[gloomy grove]

#pc-looking-for-unit #console-looking-for-unit

@pale wren

[solar marsh]

suche einen deutschen trupp, bin 20 und shooter spieler seit jahren, leider aber kaum erfahrung in hll

[mint laurel]

Hello is this where a brand new hell let loose player asked for help I just got the game on my Xbox series s and when I join a server I disconnect I have good WiFi and I was wondering what do I do?

Ok

Yea like I get in the main game and then join. A battle then when I wait to spawn in after joining a squad it disconnects

[ember trout]

Notice Sanchez isn't in there? Always be like Sanchez

[unkempt storm]

The unholy trio

[mint laurel]

Ok I am doing that I hope I dident just waste fifty bucks

[tall moon]

As a new player, I prefer avoiding these roles

[late jackal]

@mint laurel
Team17 also has some kind of support available on their website.

[trim marten]

Best new role is Medic IMO. Been exclusively Medic for several games now and starting to understand when to push or pull back.

[tall moon]

Ah yes, 2 mags for the m1 carbine

[trim marten]

Won’t live long enough to need more than 1

[tall moon]

Still prefer Rifleman tho

I love the Garand

[trim marten]

Fair. I think for the new folks it’s the meta but I started rifleman too.

[mint laurel]

I got the game working it was a lot of fun

[small socket]

I’m newer to HLL and I’ve seen people with winter suits how do I put them on?

[clear girder]

it's a dlc, i think it only comes around on christmas but i'm not sure

[small socket]

Okay thanks

How can I get the dlc when it does come?

[clear girder]

go to the dlc page once you click on hll, it should be free too

[gritty plaza]

Winter Warfare DLC only contains some white helmets. There's winter uniforms you can equip in the Barracks, which are not locked behind any level or DLC. cc @small socket

[small socket]

Thank you so much

[clear girder]

like the winter smocks?

[gritty plaza]

Those are level locked. The white painted uniforms are unlocked from the get-go.

[tall moon]

its level 5 on all classes

[outer viper]

anyone down to help me in new and will listin im 14 from uk who is mature and listins

[gloomy grove]

If you love the Garand, play support or AT for US. They both have Garands plus useful utility which takes no time away from running and gunning

[tawny meteor]

New to the game Is there a trainig server so I can learn my weapons or do I just jump in the deep end with the sharks?

[unkempt storm]

Jump into the waters with the sharks for now - you're a tad bit early for the practice range which is set to arrive shortly 🙂

[next oasis]

What is there to learn in the practice range. Every weapon is zeroed to 100m, which is as far as the range goes

[uncut oak]

Solo LOCKED tanker ! even more cancerous

[late jackal]

@next oasis
It looks like an interactive tutorial. Here's hoping it will incorporate actual game mode and deployment mechanics.

[outer viper]

Anyone down to help a new player

[tawny meteor]

Thank You DREW DREW

[fair needle]

Support and engineer my beloved

[wicked geyser]

Hi.
Does somebody know, if the "Devotion to Duty" Update is still planned for tomorrow?

[sweet cliff]

It is not. #telegrams

[alpine patrol]

on that, are there any servers that are good for new folks? or is it all just the deep end?

[sweet cliff]

Quality of game play is going to vary wildly between servers and on servers depending on time of day and who is around, read the new players guide (it's short) so you understand the bare minimum and pick a good ping one and go crazy

[tight topaz]

Hey Man, Welcome to the Officila HLL Discord, If your looking for fellow PC players then please check out, #pc-looking-for-unit 🙂

[sweet cliff]

<@&365680483276816385>

[south hare]

im the first one

Don't worry, I only solo recon & light tanks, ***sometimes ***

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mod-discord-kick-mute-gif-495505587681287181

[sweet acorn]

[late jackal]

Combat matters, but it shouldn't really be your focus, unless everything else about the team's tactical setup is extremely solid, and if that's the case you're probably going to win anyway.

[gritty plaza]

Garrisons don't defend themselves though

Killing the enemy halts the enemy's advance and allows your own team to push forward.

[outer viper]

is there any experciance players that can give me a PM

[vernal vale]

It's probably best dropping your question here, as you've definitely caught my curiosity at least. 😂

[fluid owl]

hey guys

[bitter sapphire]

anyone wanna team up?

[outer viper]

its just that im new and cant find people to help me

[vernal vale]

#pc-looking-for-unit drop your details over here and usually someone will volunteer to show the ropes, but beginner servers (often in their title) are also typically pretty welcoming to new players. 🙂

[outer viper]

ok ty

[molten trench]

boa tarde falo do Brazil e nao estou conseguindo logar no game, alguem pode me ajudar

[pulsar spear]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE STARTING SOON** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[pulsar spear]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[vital sand]

I got anti-cheat violation for no reason, and I dont even use cheats. Now I cant even search for a game, can anybody help with this

[unkempt storm]

Tuesday maintenance, it’ll resolve itself shortly

[strong pollen]

lfg smart and chill 18+ NA server dont invite me to a new server

[vernal vale]

You'll net better results over here:
#pc-looking-for-unit

[proud bane]

where can I claim the DLC? Can't find it on the Steam Store page

[unkempt storm]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1313020/Hell_Let_Loose__Summer_Warfare_Pack/?curator_clanid=34012997

Steam

Hell Let Loose - Summer Warfare Pack

Summer Warfare Pack

[proud bane]

thank you because for some reason it did not show up here

[unkempt storm]

Yeah, seasonal items have been a little finicky 🤷‍♂️

[vital sand]

level 7 for it is crazy

[light siren]

What are the requirements for red zone garrisons?

Other than 100 supplies

[gritty plaza]

Must be in a contested sector (first two red rows), not a locked one
Can't be another garrison within 200m (same as blue)
Can't have more than 8 total garrisons (same as blue)

And gets overrun whenever an enemy is within 100m

[light siren]

Thank you. So I can place a red zone garrison on either one of those X marks?

[unkempt storm]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-cute-adorable-gif-15807869

[sweet cliff]

Yep, but be mindful of the 200m lockout because you can prevent better blue zone garrisons that lock out at a shorter distance (15m or whatever)

[light siren]

What do you mean by that? I know the distance between garrisons must be 200m but what’s the 15?

[sweet cliff]

Blue zone garrisons lock out at 15m, so building a red zone say 50m into the red is likely suboptimal.

[gritty plaza]

Garrisons placed in the blue are significantly more powerful than garrisons in the red, so when there's a decent place to build one in the blue, you should avoid blocking that location by placing one in the red zone closeby

[light siren]

Oh okay thank you both. Garrisons win the game so just trying to learn the most

[obsidian grove]

Put a quick visual together, might help

[gritty plaza]

I really wish the game would show some of these lines on the map (potentially with the option to hide them)

Highlighting the active sector on warfare and showing radiuses around garrisons would be really good

[pseudo ingot]

Hey, if someone is intrested in showing a new player the game I would really appreciate that. Lmk and dm me ty.

[light siren]

Thank you that helps a lot. So red Garry locks out meaning you can’t spawn on it if an enemy is 100m nearby? Without a warning. While blue Garry has 50m warning and spawning is disabled if enemy is within 15 meters?

They really don’t explain this at all. Or at least clearly. I’m fine with researching but not every player is willing to understand such an important mechanic

[sweet cliff]

Correct it will show as locked on the map if they are within 100m.

A blue one alerts with the red ! when they're within 50, and won't lock until 15.

[light siren]

Okay good to know

[sweet cliff]

This is why people get so mad at people who build red zone garries right over the line

[obsidian grove]

Wombat did mention that garrison positioning would change so these numbers (200/100/50/15) could change but with the update delayed and change in direction, wonder if this is still the case or not.

[light siren]

What’s the distance for an op to be destroyed? You have to be within 15?

[sweet cliff]

That was for the smaller game mode, that is indefinitely delayed, these rules apply to warfare and offensive

[ember trout]

10m

Can also destroy OPs using frags

You can also destroy airheads with frags as well if you feel like it

[ember trout]

As well as AP mines i found out recently

[gloomy verge]

Any kind soul willing to coach a boot few a few games. I did watch a few hours of tutorials. Game has such a steep learning curve and id love someone to actually explain what's going on. Ready to play now.

[hidden depot]

need more drip..

[misty heath]

@gloomy verge sure

[late jackal]

@gloomy verge
Search for the New Player Guide, the Team17 website also links to this megadrive pdf. It's how I started before the game launched on console (in addition to video guides).

[mystic stump]

foxhole's still kicking?

oh dear, 36th day and the collies are down hard

also the new world map looks so different. rip to fisherman's and dirk, [BOAT] was a once-in-a-life-time gaming experience

[ocean fjord]

what does foxhole have to do with osu

[rich pine]

short skirmish on r/place if i remember correctly

[ocean fjord]

i do not understand

[steel cosmos]

foxhole and osu working together on r/place

[mortal estuary]

What do I look for when I want to buy a gaming PC???

[remote solar]

You wanting to build one or buy a prebuilt?

[mortal estuary]

Prebuilt

I need it strong enough to run games like, HLL

[mystic stump]

aim for a build as high as your budget can take you. and make sure you customize it to have a chonky ssd, you'll need it.

though honestly prebuilts are once again at a place where they are far more expensive than just buying the parts yourself and hiring on a pc workshop or something similar to assemble it

they were worth it during the gpu crisis but now that 30 series can be bought used anywhere from 400-high 200's, really isn't worth it. just make sure you have a solid pick for someone to assemble it.

for example https://www.jawa.gg/product/20482/Lenovo-Legion-RTX-3070-OEM-Graphics-Card

sites like jawa make buying used parts a lot less sketchy, and if you have an eagle eye you can snag great deals. last year this time i caught a 3070 for ~600 when their retail price was still hovering around 900

though you won't see cpus on jawa as much as i noticed. guess they just don't get resold as often.

anyway that's a relatively brief overview on my thoughts. not an expert, just someone who suffered with the same outdated pc for seven years before i had to retire her quick @mortal estuary

oh and it's obligatory to mention that pcpartpicker is a must

[misty heath]

@gloomy verge wanna play

[gloomy verge]

@misty heath Just got on

[misty heath]

add me DonteJackson671

[ebon needle]

Remember this. HLL is a CPU heavy game. Make sure you have a good CPU. If you need recommendations PM me and I can help you out with any budget you’re looking for. Pre built are nice, but you can build one yourself usually a lot better for the same price.

[prisma carbon]

Hi. New to the game, was curious if anyone somewhat experienced would like to join me and walk me through the basics. Will most likely struggle in the beginning. Big favor/question, but would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[surreal berry]

I would if I could! Def get an optometrist because you'll be staring at a pixel close-up for alot of the time at first lol

[prisma carbon]

Lol. Best I can do is move my chair up a few feet.

[surreal berry]

it makes you good at other FPS's though over time, you'll be hyperaware of pixels changing color haha

[misty heath]

@prisma carbon im down bro

[prisma carbon]

Very nice, man. You available currently?

[misty heath]

yea

ur HLL name

we could go in vc

[prisma carbon]

@misty heath BoohBahGUMP

[misty heath]

it dont work

[prisma carbon]

What's yours?

[misty heath]

DonteJackson#671 or DonteJackson671 im on xbox

[prisma carbon]

@misty heath sent friend request on discord. Couldn't get your either. You're cross play activated?

[misty heath]

yea it

i think

[ember trout]

@prisma carbon @misty heath if you want to add each other on HLL using the in-game T17 add friend feature, you need to send each other your T17 username from the main menu.

Open up the friends list and your name + the 4 numbers will be displayed at the top of the friends menu

[graceful lion]

Hi I am new what is this game about and have do you make frineds in it so you dont play alone

[vapid anchor]

What you play on

[graceful lion]

Playing on a server named PBS and I play on PC

[torn musk]

.

[robust aspen]

Hi

[unkempt storm]

Hello 🙂

[outer terrace]

The best answer I can come up with is that it’s a squad orientated game where you take part in either capturing enemy territory or defend your own. You basically join a squad of varying sizes, depending on its designation (infantry is 6 players, armor is 3, and recon is 2). Each squad has designated roles and abilities tied to them. The idea is that you choose a squad and role, and communicate with each other to accomplish a goal and win.

[static oracle]

are there not voice chat servers on this discord?

[mossy fractal]

More immersive to use in-game voice

[austere apex]

why is there barley people online😔

[dawn widget]

Anyone teaching the game on PS5?

[zenith oxide]

Hey everyone my server is offering free VIP for those that help seed our server for 10 days or more a month! PoonHub Tactical!

[nova flower]

Should've bought the "Keep Your Rank" DLC

[zenith oxide]

dont have that issue on pc

it saves your progress i guess

[wraith elk]

anyone on pc right now?

[candid knot]

Anyone would be willing to help me/ play with me. Im new-new and i really dont know what im doing :/ should i just watch gameplay/YT videos?

[quaint sparrow]

You on console?

[candid knot]

No

[quaint sparrow]

Ah shame but either way I’d still watch some tutorials or just stuff that covers the game generally

[vital sand]

The devition to duty trailer was amazing!

Loved how he said ”Keep moving! We have taken a german op!”

[compact oar]

hey guys pretty new at the game when is people playing hell let loose ?

[obtuse fable]

sameone said this: I’m brand new (playing on pc) and I’d say no. It’s a very slow game with each match taking 90 minutes and not a lot of action. I find it super fun to creep around support teammates and try and spot enemies but it’s an acquired game for most

not alot of action slow game..

[gritty plaza]

I remember the first time I played I just ran around in the middle of nowhere because I had no idea what to do or where to go

In 60 minutes time I saw not a single person, died once

[obtuse fable]

and? how was it fun? alot of shooting?

[obtuse fable]

bruh no people

[gritty plaza]

I quit the game after that and didn't touch it for several months

[obtuse fable]

lol like this game seems fun but if you run around for 60 mins and just run and do nothing the game is not for me

[gritty plaza]

Yes. But unfortunately the game doesn't really have anything to introduce you to the mechanics so chances are that when a new player jumps in they just spawn in HQ or on a backline garrison and run in the opposite direction.

[obtuse fable]

lol

[gritty plaza]

Other than a stray spotter you're not gonna run into many people that way.

[obtuse fable]

thanks.

[gritty plaza]

There's generally always a spawnpoint close to the action, however the most fun is usually when you stick with your squad and don't just focus on shooting, but also position and map control. But definitely there's plenty of gunfights.

[obtuse fable]

alr

[ember trout]

There's a map you can open at any time (touchpad on PS5) that you can open to see where you are on the map. For your first few games, try and find where all the teammates are on the map and head to them, you'll pick a few basic things up quick like spawning on different garrisons and outposts, using the compass for guidance, using the map and the markers you have access to etc.

Once you get used to the game, you can play how you like (logistics by ensuring your team always has spawnpoints built and available, or maybe you just want to shoot people and run-and-gun, just as a couple examples)

Once you learn the basics and if you're good at gunfights in FPS games, it's not that difficult to rack up 100 kills as infantry in this game especially if you stay near the fight and are preventing the main enemy pushes from coming

The game isn't all about kills though at all. If you don't take out enemy spawns, you simply are not going to be able to break through. Likewise if you aren't keeping your spawns protected and they are getting taken out, you'll eventually be forced to spawn all the way at HQ if no one has been rebuilding said spawnpoints. Likewise giving intel is vital to your team, as even if you don't have the means to take something out (eg a tank), calling it out and marking it allows another teammate to take it out for you, rather than that vehicle eventually flanking the entire team and wiping everyone out

Reason why it's difficult for new players, is because the game does a horrific job of explaining stuff. There's a field manual that you can read, but that's it. There's no dedicated tutorial so basically everything to learn has to be done while in a proper match

And if you don't have experienced players to teach you, you'll have a very rough time getting to grips with things

Back to work i go for another 3 and a half hours

[compact oar]

what are the difference between these 2 =

[mystic stump]

one is the game. one is a branch for play-testing

currently a PTE going on until the end of the day, read about it in the latest #telegrams

[compact oar]

WTH

[unkempt storm]

Wouldn’t they be saying it’s bad if they thought it was bad?

Alrighty

Part of the problem if you ask me is no one allowing any room in any conversation for any other opinion than their own, which both sides hold is right. Everyone has a different view, I very much like the slower speed, for what it’s worth.

[arctic raft]

infantryman96#2268 if anyone wants to play

[vital sand]

https://youtu.be/igMfYCqPQm0

The fk is this sht 💀💀

There was an arm flying in this trailer 🤦‍♂️

Nah they need to apologize for making that trailer look that bad

[unkempt storm]

#telegrams message

Also I’d advise you to rethink your profile, or you’ll be removed.

[mystic stump]

From the AMA:

The story behind the trailer going live isn't as exciting as some would have you believe (summer intern? we wish!).

This trailer was outsourced to a new partner agency, with a too-short deadline. And to be honest, the checks that should have been carried out on the quality of the assets and historical accuracy did not happen.

This mistake has been learned from and acted upon - with our internal trailer team, which had worked on the majority of our previous trailers, being brought back onto the project.

That trailer is not a representation of HLL or the dedication and care that the team applies to everything they do with regard to the title, and we will never put out an asset of that quality ever again. - Adam

Adam being the Senior Brand Manager

[unkempt storm]

Adam in our hearts ❤️ 🙏

[mystic stump]

It's what I suspected had happened immediately after realizing how it was basically a UE market asset flip. That's how the floating Garand clip happened, no doubt.

[ocean fjord]

@unkempt storm Kill it!

[bronze crag]

Hi! I've been thinking about buying the game in the next days. Can someone tell me what's the average match duration? Asking since I'm using geforce now and my game session is 1 hour. Is it enough?

[mystic stump]

matches can last up to 1 hour 30

what's geforce now?

[bronze crag]

It's a cloud gaming app

[mystic stump]

Gotcha.

Well, they're planning on releasing a shorter gamemode, but there's no current time-frame for that.

[bronze crag]

Think an hour long session might do the job for now?

[mystic stump]

Really depends. Your class exp is saved but you won't be able to play a full match if it drags on. A lot of games don't get to 90 minutes, mind you, but definitely cutting it close with an hour.

[bronze crag]

As long as my xp saves and I have a good time it's enough for me.

Thanks for the help mate. Wish you a nice day.

[mystic stump]

good luck my friend

[sly nebula]

Hey im currently playing commander in a match what is the Max amount of vehicles that can be spawned in upon a map

[mystic stump]

8

[sly nebula]

Ok

[ocean fjord]

Isn't it 5?

[languid bison]

hi was wondering if its possible to play on console with a steamdeck later if it ever releases

ill hook to a monitor but is it advise for pc only

[gritty plaza]

They did mention on their previous roadmap that they wanted to add Steamdeck support

However how much of that is true is to be seen, or whether they will play against console or PC players

[languid bison]

ah thank you ill keep that in mind

[forest wyvern]

Looking for chill players to have a fun and tactical experience.
Friend Code: 335225914

DM if interested

[tepid ore]

Hey, would someone playing on EU servers be kind enough to hop into a VC with me and help me with an introduction to this game? Already played for about 30 hours but I didn't get to meet a squad or a player that would explain something to me so I play as an absolute beginner.

[sweet cliff]

Have you read the new players guide yet? It's a short read but covers most of the essentials, it is pinned in here

[tepid ore]

I've read a couple of guides but theory is one thing and practice is another thing

but thanks for a tip

[sweet cliff]

For sure. I'd look for some larger servers in your region, most of them will list a discord link either in the server name, welcome message or the scrolling messages in the top left in game and try to link up with people in some of those

A lot of those servers have people that play on the regularly so you can find a more reliable group of people to play with

[dawn widget]

Alright so I'm new to the game, I die 24/7 I don't get any kills. I never see the enemy before I get head shot? any tips other then ''skill issue''

[unkempt storm]

Comes with time/experience, knowing maps and common vantage points, etc., don't be running into open areas. Always be looking everywhere for even the tiniest of movement before moving yourself

[brave ruin]

Dont run in the open

Take your time and move slowly, you should hardly ever shift+w

this is why you're asss at the game

yes

[nova flower]

You just gotta crouch while you’re shift W’ing. Then it’s tactical

[cyan belfry]

@dawn widget it's really about patience. Not moving around so much. Watching where your going before you go. If you hyperfocus on your surroundings you will get much better. And start with rifleman class to learn how to lead your shots and kill on the first shot

[rose meteor]

olá

[warm shoal]

anyone know how to fix this?

[sweet cliff]

Fix what?

[warm shoal]

only like 13 or so servers show up and they all have 0 players

[sweet cliff]

Check your text filter in the top right it won't show you anything in it unless you click in. Beyond that there's been issues with server availability

Also do you need to update your client? If you haven't played in awhile you might, exiting steam completely and relaunching should catch that

[warm shoal]

No just updated it a bit ago but ill just wait on this screen for a bit see if anything happens

[gloomy grove]

Use the history tab or use the steam server browser.

Steam -> View dropdown -> servers

[rose meteor]

alguem do brasil aqui?

[dawn widget]

What does airhead mean? constantly hear people mention it

[ocean fjord]

Small box with a red chute dropping from the sky, deployed by the commander. It lets everyone on your team to spawn on it every 30 seconds for about... 4 minutes I think, then it goes poof.

[dawn widget]

What's the name of it?

[ocean fjord]

Airhead. You airhead.

[gloomy grove]

But what is an airhead

[unkempt storm]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-dr-iggy-frome-new-amsterdam-thinking-wondering-gif-16711162

[thorn quarry]

Hi am spain

Alguno pa jugar?

[brave ruin]

wanna find out?

[unkempt storm]

May have better luck in #pc-looking-for-unit , or #enlist_language -> #spanish 🙂

[dusky carbon]

Question, does the commander lose some abilities when their team is at their last point? I saw this when experimenting with some friends, and stuff like precision strike and bombing run were unavailable

[sweet cliff]

They are strictly time and resource constrained

[dusky carbon]

Also, sometimes I just straight up lose the ability to use precision strike, and it doesn't show me a time when it comes back

[sweet cliff]

You're probably too low on munitions

[dusky carbon]

I'll be sure to double check next time

[pulsar spear]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE STARTING SOON** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[pulsar spear]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[dawn widget]

Hey, got 24h on the game and I don't really rank up my main unit (anti tank) I'm trynna get it to LVL 6 but it's only 3, and it never really goes up even tho I main it.. Best way to rank up?

[last cloud]

Here's the XP amounts for each level for roles

[floral grove]

Hunter, make sure you’re not just going for tanks, as playing the class to its obvious ability isn’t always how you net the most XP. Assist your team with capping points by being within the zone, make sure you keep an eye out for enemy OPs and garrisons to destroy, etc. Don’t be afraid to die a LOT each match - your K/D doesn’t matter much here, just how much you actually contribute to the mission of the team through effective use of your role.

[sweet cliff]

Build nodes then swap to what you want

[dawn widget]

Where can i build nodes they always get destroyed

[gloomy grove]

You get offensive and defensive XP by just being alive. You don't need to be in the capture zone.

Outposts and garrisons are not a good XP source, as they give you about 5 combat XP each.

[nova flower]

You should still be using those though. the game isn’t only about levels.

[grim tinsel]

Bob the builder if it’s still up, or if u want a authentic way build nodes in hq or on the opposite side of map where points are.

I know I know

Say the point is pill box, you should build it in your sector, far away from the points. So let’s say pill box is middle. Your sectors are bridge and corner. You should try to build it far east side of battery or far west side of canal

[dawn widget]

Thought you couldnt build at hq

[unkempt storm]

On offensive, which bob the builder runs, the defending team can build in HQs other than the last strongpoints sector

[ocean fjord]

The truck can drop supplies into inactive defender/attacker HQs, you can build nodes anywhere in blue

really, i'm fairly certain that the offensive mode is just bugged.

the alternative is that the minds of the designers are bugged

[gritty plaza]

@main bough above

[main bough]

@gritty plaza Guess it was taken care of. 😉

[gritty plaza]

What are you talking about?

What was taken care of? I don't see anything? 🤔

[dawn widget]

Hello, hope I’m in the right chat.. when is the update 14.3 supposed to come out? I’ve heard that devs are going to add some sort of tutorials and other stuff which would be good for me as i would like to start playing the game soon. Thx in advance.

[unkempt storm]

Date for 14.3 hasn't been released yet, but it is indeed aimed to include video tutorials and a practice range 🙂

[still goblet]

How do I win a 1v1 at close range? Can't seem to win them anymore and have no idea what I am doing wrong.
Currently I see the enemy first, start shooting and land hits first, yet somehow I still loose every 1v1.

[gritty plaza]

Use a semi-auto

For anyone with a decent aim there is no other reason to take anything other than a Garand or G43 besides wanting to spice things up for a change or being forced to play as Soviets/Brits

[slate sentinel]

It can also be up to luck with server performance, you can use any weapons imaginable and you'll still lose if your ping is too high

Case in point, came around a corner with a G43, shot a guy in the back 4 times, saw the blood, then he turned around and one tapped me

[gritty plaza]

With how quickly you can ADS and steady your aim they are incredibly potent at even the closest ranges, and as long as you don't get surprised and/or choke, you will likely win the gunfight, simply because you only need that one bullet

[still goblet]

Does the weapon really make that much of a difference? Have several clips where I land 3-4-5 shots with an Stg44 point blank before the enemy fires back and kills me with their first shot. Would using the G43 change that?
Using the Garand I have no issues, enemies go down in one shot like (iirc) they should

I was under the impression that Stg44 and G43 were both OHK up to 100 meters for example

[fluid wagon]

The G43 is like the Garand in terms of dmg while the STG 44 is only 1 shot up to 50m I believe.

[slate sentinel]

Yeah, at range the STG is not what you want to be using unless you can consistently hit headshots

[still goblet]

I'm having issues very close, like here for example, land 4 shots before the guy shoots and kills me in a single shot:

[fluid wagon]

The STG is a medium range weapon ideal for maps like Stalingrad and Kharkov.

[still goblet]

And I just can't see what I can do to win this fight, I spot him first, shoot first,hit several shots before he reacts and I still get killed and him undamaged

[fluid wagon]

Sometimes you kill each other or it maybe has to do with registration.

[still goblet]

I just played for 45 minutes where it was like that every 1v1, could not kill someone unless I snuck up on them, incredible frustrating

Feels like I am not doing anything that should cause me to not win the 1v1, but I still get killed, more or less every time

[slate sentinel]

It's the server performance, I have the same issues every once in awhile

[sweet cliff]

Do you have an unusually high ping?

[slate sentinel]

It's nothing you're doing wrong
It's just that your shots technically don't register and theirs do

[still goblet]

Nope, usually around 50ms

But what do I have to do for my shots to register?

[slate sentinel]

Hope you get a server that isn't bad

It's just a performance issue built into the game, not some weird thing you're doing wrong to keep getting killed

I have games where I can't seem to kill anyone no matter how much blood comes out, and others where I shoot first and they die

[gritty plaza]

Eh, it's not as if half your shots don't register if your ping is high

Yes, HLL can be a little inconsistent sometimes and high ping doesn't help, but most shots will still hit. In fact, ping doesn't make that much of a difference in my opinion.

It's more a general issue with how poorly servers have been performing recently.

[sweet cliff]

It's likely what you're describing you're on the winning side of too, but you never see that perspective since you don't know they shot at you when the server decides you won

[ocean fjord]

Try playing by raising your ping to 250ms some how

[next oasis]

One shot to anywhere above the knees
Stg is 100m
G43 is 200m

[still goblet]

What happens at 250ms?

[reef slate]

Bullet registration is pretty bad on console tbh

[tender mirage]

So uhhh having a bipod is a meta?

[gritty plaza]

Where'd you get that idea from?

[ocean fjord]

I dont know, but it wouldn't surprise me if some bit of code made hit registration better for you then.

[wooden narwhal]

higher the delay, the worse the hit reg

lowering your data delay = better hit reg and reaction time

[lime pebble]

sup

[autumn python]

just launched the game for the first time and have no idea what im doing, any tips? 😬

[sweet cliff]

Read the new players guide it's pinned in here

[marble vine]

So there's no point playing medic class?

What is the most noob-friendly class then? Riflemen?

[sweet cliff]

Or support if you're willing to drop the box when and where it's needed

[delicate barn]

do it for the achievement

[marble vine]

Thanks! 👍

[ember trout]

STG will 1-shot up to 100m, then 2-shot beyond that

[dawn widget]

What is a node in game? I play rifleman but I hear my officers requesting nodes and stuff from support

I apologise if it’s a stupid question but I just want to learn the game is all

[unkempt storm]

Resource nodes are built by engineers (using supplies) to earn additional resources for the commander to use their abilities, of which there are 3, munitions, manpower, and fuel

[dawn widget]

What are the commanders abilities capable of doing? Like does munitions mean you can call more airstrikes, manpower is faster respawn and idk what fuel could be at all

[unkempt storm]

A team starts with a base resource gain of +30/min. Each node of each type raises the gain of that resource by +10/min, so one munition node means you have +40 munitions/min, to a maximum of +60/min of each resource.

Munitions are used for bombing runs, straffing runs, supply drops, recon plane, precision strikes
Manpower is used for encourage, reinforce, airheads, dismantle garrison
Fuel is used for vehicle call ins, tanks, trucks, etc.

(Encourage temporarily doubles resource gain from nodes, and reinforce temporarily doubles cap weight for each soldier in a selected friendly sector)

[dawn widget]

Sorta same system as battlefield? The better a team performs the more resources they have to help their squad?

[unkempt storm]

That was the initial idea - nodes used to generate more resources the closer they were to enemy territory, which theoretically meant the better a team did, the more resources they could have. But it often meant that losing teams had a harder chance to come back, so they were balanced by generating +10 regardless of where they’re built.

They’re all usually built fairly quickly at the beginning of matches in a teams HQ sectors, as they’ll never be destroyed automatically when/if a sector is captured. This way they can only be destroyed by being dismantled by the enemy team.

So, more often than not, both teams will have the same resource gain, just a matter of how they’re used

Assuming they are indeed built of course.

[ocean fjord]

one manpower node near the front is useful for the support cd buff, but that's it

[upbeat jasper]

Question:Does reinforce only work if they are in the circle 🧐

[gritty plaza]

Yes

[upbeat jasper]

I keep seeing lots of people say it works if they are in grid square range

[unkempt storm]

people also say we landed on the moon, and Anna Nicole married for love

(but yes)

[dawn widget]

how often do commanders loose all their resources

[slate sentinel]

If they're constantly spamming things or never have any nodes built? Almost always

[dusk berry]

Alway make sure to find the worst time to reload 🫡

[late jackal]

@marble vine
The point of playing medic is to make people add you to their friends list

[full oasis]

hello everybody i just installed the game and it cant find any servers is this normal ?

[gritty plaza]

You probably installed the Public Testing version of the game. Inside of your Steam library, look for Hell Let Loose and install that. And uninstall Hell Let Loose (Public Testing) if you wish. Unless you intend to participate in upcoming tests, you won't really need it.

[dawn widget]

Strange, I find matches every 2 seconds

[stoic venture]

Hi I just bought the game for my son, are there any servers good for helping new players? He's 13

[slate sentinel]

There are plenty of new player servers available in the server browser, and I'm sure a member of the PC community would be able to direct you to one

[stoic venture]

We entered a server but dropped in really far away from everyone, is there a way to drop closer to them or do you have to start in the same spot every time?

[heady stream]

spawn in garrisons if you can theyre normally closer