mess-hall

[oak current]

now go back a few dev briefs when they announced it and what its purpose was meant to be

[cosmic pilot]

That's more the substance of my post.

[lucid tusk]

Im still waiting for a proper offensive style game mode that's more than just "capture the point and move to the next", I want dynamic objectives mixed in. Blow up this obstacle, hold off the counterattack, destroy the artillery battery

[cosmic pilot]

Offensive needs to be fixed first by disallowing attackers in defenders locked territory.
And by adding back in a second objective

[hazy owl]

Skirmish is a gateway experience for new players of Hell Let Loose! This game mode allows players to get straight into the action and experience some of the core mechanics of Hell Let Loose with fewer moving parts.

This is a quicker 50vs50 experience for some of our core audience who want to hop in for a few games and immerse themselves in the battle immediately.

You are right it was also meant for that. It seems it failed on both fronts.

[lucid tusk]

Agreed

[oak current]

2023, has been quite some time
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/686810/view/3869217710002324957

[cosmic pilot]

And we're still stuck with the most boring version of skirmish

We could've had 3 active strong points one

[lucid tusk]

Skirmish shouldn't even be a thing

[oak current]

oddly enough, people enjoyed the 18vs18s back in the day - 2 set garrisons over one hardcap, with overtime at the end. 30 mins of combat + extra time if the point isnt 100% in either sides hands/owned.

skirmish now is 30 minutes, of which 5 minutes arent important.

[carmine crater]

I think they should remake the whole game, I'd paid another 30 or 40 bucks for them to just kind of rebuild it now i dont want new modes or anything.. but i definitely want the pacific am I alone here?? I just want to play normandy and russia

[oak current]

3 mins waiting time + 2 minutes at the end where teh match is over

[hazy owl]

Skirmish is a great example of how T17 treating new game content. They release something new, release hot fixes if needed and that is it.

[oak current]

they kept making skirmish throughout the years

[cosmic pilot]

The community doesn't want more 😭

[hazy owl]

My point exactly. They should revisit what is already there and work with that.

Can we make nodes work better, can we make structures better, ...

[cosmic pilot]

The community would complain like there's no tomorrow

[oak current]

the community will complain either way

[hazy owl]

All I am trying to say the game is good as is now try to perfect it.. structures are not used really, nodes are more like a chore..

[carmine crater]

you don't really want anyhting new?

just fix what's there kind of thing?

[cosmic pilot]

Everyone says that.
But nobody really means that.

[hazy owl]

That's not my point. The point is that adding new maps or irrelevant content such as SPA does not change or enhance the gameplay.

They should figure out why are structures not being used, why nodes feel like a chore, ...

[cosmic pilot]

Imagine if the SPA was allowed to be OP for a few weeks to shakeup the meta before getting patched to be less impactful.

[hazy owl]

But if they work for years on modes like Skirmish basically trimming the map and make a big strongpoint in the middle of the map.. bro

Nobody even plays SPA it stays on the HQ most of the time

[cosmic pilot]

Uh, no.

[hazy owl]

It does on our servers. People are not aware or there is no interest in playing it.

[cosmic pilot]

Case in point, the SPA should've been allowed to be impactful.

[nova pivot]

I can't wait 🫨 🙌

[cosmic pilot]

News of news ahh news

[carmine crater]

This is what im saying though, what if we got a sequel? hll2? let them cook and rebuild?

[cyan saddle]

They're impactful, just nowhere near the level of old artillery which was crazy OP

[carmine crater]

build a solid thing but basically exaclty what we have or would you rather go no i want pacific and new maps etc

[hazy owl]

In fact it's so OP they won't allowed in tournaments. I hoped we could try something new but I must agree it is a little too much and infantry play would be even more frustrating

[nova pivot]

"News"🍷 🧐

[cosmic pilot]

Comp is a joke for not allowing it

[nova pivot]

Or should we say olds? The vote ended 2nd of this month

[dusty bolt]

Did someone say Skirmish

[cyan saddle]

That's just plain wrong I'm sorry 😅

I'm sure the argument was thrown around

[cosmic pilot]

Imagine trying to adapt instead of doing the same thing over and over again

[cyan saddle]

But there's a plethora of reasons why teams voted against it

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-eww-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-1851111844763070866

[fringe bramble]

hi
why i bought and install the add on and i cant see them in the game
Before I reset my PC they worked fine

[worthy charm]

Because they want horses?

[cosmic pilot]

Lay it on me

[hazy owl]

I personally think it's very OP but was still fighting for SPA being allowed in ECL as I would rather have the option to have some new arty mechanics and also being able to destroy it

[carmine crater]

What's ECL?

[finite berry]

Ah, just 11 more minutes until the inevitable meltdown in this Discord :)

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-floppa-sad-it's-over-rain-gif-2614335113295818251

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-creature-meme-party-yay-gif-4844138631754730183

[thin lotus]

2 maps a YEAR
if that
LMAOOO

[cosmic pilot]

On the plus side, you don't want that much file size inflation

[thin lotus]

🙄

[dusty bolt]

Would rather have that than rushed garbage tbh

[cosmic pilot]

Mortain 😔

[thin lotus]

t17 isnt expediting anything
'rush' isnt in their vocabulary

[hazy owl]

https://hll-ecl.eu/

[cyan saddle]

In no particular order, too overpowered, useless anyway so who cares, reinforces map/faction imbalance, likely to be changed again in the future, too early to tell, less arty is good, dont wanna introduce drastic changes mid-season, so forth. There's definitely also been plenty of teams that would have liked to see SPAs though.

[nova pivot]

Fr

Ey, Timer warm up

[carmine crater]

What if we got a sequel? hll2? let them cook and rebuild? build a solid thing but basically exaclty what we have or would you rather go no i want pacific and new maps etc

[cosmic pilot]

The only one that's valid is if the was a running tournament.

[dusty bolt]

Hi @hazy owl

[finite berry]

Can they please get out Vietnam first before you start talking about HLL2 lol

[hazy owl]

I hope there will be some adjustments and we'll be able to see SPA in the 2nd split of ECL

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm if I get disappointed I'm going to verbally abuse you❤️

[carmine crater]

lol, i dont care about vietnam fr. but if they did ww2 again for a sequel would you pay full price for like carentan again or something? or would you want entirely new maps and new campaigns like italy or something

[cosmic pilot]

Only because you end up in an apples to organes were earlier results don't match the current conditions.

[hazy owl]

I was hoping they were working on HLL remake instead... they it read Vietnam after that.. damn

[worthy charm]

@slate canopy Ban this man, he is mean

[nova pivot]

Naaaa

[finite berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538055883075354637/1451353103554183169/Cat_handshake.jpg?ex=6974aaa8&is=69735928&hm=8ddcd0e0d195928eb41b0d4bf878f0c6660213282ea6241f8bd80f76a4ce2558&=&format=webp

I'm with you

[past vortex]

why tf would anyone spawn that

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm what are you going to do now?

[patent crater]

Any English speaking server where I can play as a newbie with good teammates who can teach me?

[hazy owl]

OP destroyer

[nova pivot]

You cant stop us😈

[worthy charm]

. ban @ Sparta Rude af

[nova pivot]

That happened once

[glacial brook]

Where tf is nam news

[worthy charm]

Overpowered destroyer?

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-annoyed-anime-gif-24150193

[nova pivot]

With a very similar prompt lol

[finite berry]

Don't ban floppa

Or I shall leave as well >:(

[cosmic pilot]

Two for one deal

[nova pivot]

I'm literally 17% of the server activity

[finite berry]

hahaha

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-damn-good-deal-good-deal-id-make-that-deal-gif-27676387

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-ryan-reynolds-grin-gif-4553503

[nova pivot]

Don't ban elise

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-so-true-shaking-hands-metal-gear-rising-raiden-gif-4936275475725020765

[nova pivot]

Or I will leave

[worthy charm]

I dont need to, just need to ban you

[finite berry]

based activity with floppa gifs

[nova pivot]

Oh wait

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-big-floppa-lil-floppa-flop-floppa-flop-gif-22883844

[nova pivot]

6 minssss

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-caracal-gosha-gregory-kerr-gif-27022893

[patent crater]

Helpful community....

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-cute-gif-25858838

[nova pivot]

Yes, that is us

[worthy charm]

Oh my sweet sweet summer childs

[finite berry]

I'd ask that in #new-recruit-barracks

[nova pivot]

@finite berry doesn't even own the game lol

[worthy charm]

Who is gonna tell them?

[finite berry]

@patent crater You are from Asia?

[patent crater]

Thanks I guess

Pakistan

[nova pivot]

You guessed well ❤️

[finite berry]

And yet I'm more helpful than most of the community actually playing the game

[patent crater]

Can hardly find any English speaking servers

[fluid pawn]

It's now swung the other way in chat. Show's how close it was in the actual vote as well!

[finite berry]

Ah, I see. If you were from the North America or Europe, there are some folks from those continents who offer elaborate teaching sessions.

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-chiken-chicken-rooster-gif-15719325597742543552

[nova pivot]

Because the community is busy playing a not d3ad game

[finite berry]

You could ask them whether they could help you

[worthy charm]

So the other half of the community will be mad then

[finite berry]

Still, definitely ask in #new-recruit-barracks

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm have you seen my message?

[worthy charm]

damn

[nova pivot]

What was wrong with it?

[nova pivot]

😭

[finite berry]

Good, more entertainment for all of us >:)

[patent crater]

Aight I'll see

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/what-what-the-what-the-hell-wtf-gif-8562994133044611418

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-clap-fireworks-cheer-gif-23094976

[cosmic pilot]

Always had been

[nova pivot]

The auto mod blocked a message

But I didn't say any bad words

[finite berry]

I swear, this will be me as soon as hell breaks loose on this Discord when the vote results are out

[patent crater]

Btw thanks I tweaked and am now getting mostly stable 60 FPS

[nova pivot]

Get ready for the comp player demanding Metz if it doesn't win because soviet weapons are bad

[finite berry]

Alright, now I hope that Seelow wins

[thin lotus]

which one isnt just fields

[finite berry]

Metzlow

The ultimate crossover

[cosmic pilot]

Someone should've told that to the Nazis in 1945

[worthy charm]

Both are field

always

[nova pivot]

60 seconds

[analog apex]

You're gonna buy HLL then? 😛

[thin lotus]

lovely fields you have there
i'm going to teleport past it though
that is, if i played this game

[finite berry]

Of course not, what do you think of me :D

[worthy charm]

ANother 5 min timer?

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[nova pivot]

Wtf is this

[finite berry]

törken

[nova pivot]

This is the new map?

A yellow screen?

[winged star]

New map is Backrooms

[finite berry]

based new map

[worthy charm]

We are confused together

[finite berry]

Will buy HLL for that

[nova pivot]

🫂

[winged star]

corridor fighting and no arty because it has a ceiling

[worthy charm]

Snipe this out, he found it out

[finite berry]

Don't lie, you know more - tell us :)

[worthy charm]

I dont

[nova pivot]

He does know lol

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[worthy charm]

I wish I would know more

Then i could troll you

[nova pivot]

They have a mods chat with ben

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584475715836051456/1434649080516317397/caption.gif

[nova pivot]

It's green aaaaa

[worthy charm]

ALTBERG KNOWS MORE!
runs away

[oak current]

"Wow, I cant believe that [Map] Won the vote! This is clearly fixed, and the community actually wanted [OtherMap]"

waiting for the outrage

[nova pivot]

I'm going to copy this

Just in case

[worthy charm]

lmao

[silk igloo]

rigged

[worthy charm]

I did copy the message link

[oak current]

ripped

[nova pivot]

Bluee

So many colours

[worthy charm]

That music tho

[nova pivot]

Orange

[worthy charm]

Brown

[nova pivot]

Is horrible

[worthy charm]

Pink

[nova pivot]

You go faster than I go lol

[oak current]

I say....I was more curious about Metz - but the info of "Battle over the Outskirts of Metz" worried me

[worthy charm]

Red

[cosmic pilot]

Brown is orange in a different context

[worthy charm]

More red

Purple

[nova pivot]

Redder red

[nova pivot]

Yes you go faster than I go

[worthy charm]

I missed a color

damn

Anyway

[cosmic pilot]

What a tease

[worthy charm]

5

4

3

2

1

[nova pivot]

They are trying to give us epilepsy so we don't see the actual thing

[worthy charm]

0 in greys

[nova pivot]

I know that man

[worthy charm]

new dev face

Fat bridge?

[nova pivot]

The calm before the storm

[oak current]

wider bridge and more underbridge bits - whaaat did I tell ya

[nova pivot]

Skirmish guys

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[nova pivot]

10/10

[nova pivot]

Torken

[finite berry]

Törken

[worthy charm]

Törken

[nova pivot]

Get ready

[worthy charm]

OMG

YEEES

[nova pivot]

Yygvkhh

[finite berry]

Seelow won?

[nova pivot]

Kjjhhhhjhhggkkhhkojfhtgjjhjllpkgdchkhjk

Let's gooooooo

[worthy charm]

@analog apex Good jjob boting the result /s

[silk igloo]

not rigged, i love democracy

[worthy charm]

Its seelow

[past veldt]

Zzzzz

[analog apex]

Seelow won

[past veldt]

Another map that won't get played

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[wintry comet]

have fun playing your russian map smh

[past veldt]

Gg devs

[worthy charm]

More fields

Finally

[wintry comet]

gonna be a poopoo map

[covert elbow]

@analog apex we got tickets confirmed for conquest

[nova pivot]

Here they are 🤣

[covert elbow]

Boooo

[worthy charm]

Russian flamethrower?

[wintry comet]

people gonna complain the open fields are gonna be to hard to cross

[finite berry]

Now we just need tickets for the entire game :)

[past veldt]

No shot

[thin lotus]

lol tickets.
These guys are out of touch completely

[finite berry]

But honestly, it's good that Seelow won

[worthy charm]

New vehicles types?

TDs?

Hetzer?

[finite berry]

Will balance out the fact that there's way too little UK and USSR maps

[nova pivot]

Confirmed

[past veldt]

These Devs are so done

[thin scarab]

You will kill warfare if you Add conquest with a ticket System

[finite berry]

I don't really see how TDs are such a great new addition. They won't add much to this barebones armour system

[wintry comet]

seelow is gonna be played a week and after that never again lmfao

[nova pivot]

But they are cool

[finite berry]

Nothing for you to worry about then, right? 😉

[cosmic pilot]

Nothing burger

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hard-lol-lmao-oh-wait-youre-serious-let-me-laugh-even-harder-gif-16553942

[finite berry]

Eh.

[cosmic pilot]

Also my data cut out right as he announced who won

[covert elbow]

Man, another nothing burger of a community post though. Only new info we got was the map vote and details on remagen/ Juno

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn ❤️ thanks for the vid

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-meme-astronaut-gif-23926290

[finite berry]

I'd rather say that Conquest will be dead on arrival

[covert elbow]

We waited a month for that?

[nova pivot]

Pacific

[lucid tusk]

Very vague, you gotta actually show stuff lol. Juno being D day +1 is kind of a letdown ngl

Happy about Seelow though

[midnight salmon]

lmao so to summarize: ticket system noone asked for instead of aknowledging the bugs

[thin scarab]

I think all the noobs aka newer Players will Play it means less warfare Players

[analog apex]

yeah... now the question is... what form of tickets and how will they work? I honestly hope it won't be the plain global static tickets.

[finite berry]

Will they, tho?

[worthy charm]

Indeed, nothing we didnt knew already

:}

[finite berry]

Tickets only for Conquest in case I got that right

[oak current]

Horses

[thin scarab]

I actually think Yes when it will be the same as BF

[covert elbow]

Same. That just ruins the fun of HLL

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208

[lusty barn]

sealow heights lets go

[analog apex]

we need life tickets and also ammo tickets somehow +not plain global

[hazy owl]

Not if you don't add it to your rotation XD

[nova pivot]

no

[thin scarab]

Well Thats 1 Option 😅

[lucid tusk]

Like all they did was say what's on the roadmap. Show me stuff, I dont care if it's rough models and concept pieces

[finite berry]

I don't think so. We also got Conquest in Squad 44 and it was dead on arrival. I mean, people buy HLL to play an experience they usually don't get in Battlefield, so why would they flock to Conquest? Plus, there's gotta be servers that host it

[midnight salmon]

ok

[runic gorge]

what map won

[worthy charm]

You saw Andy and know be happy

[analog apex]

Seelow

[thin scarab]

Newer Players find warfare to hard so They will Play conquest

[runic gorge]

good

[lusty barn]

so when can we expect all these things to be implemented

[nova pivot]

@lusty barn who are you? remove the horse

[winged star]

new weapons! we're gonna break it down? nah just letting you know they are new that's it!

[analog apex]

throughout the year of 2026

[worthy charm]

How tf should I know?

[finite berry]

Allow me to disagree. New players just flock to the full servers, they don't care what's getting played.

[lusty barn]

ah okay

[thin scarab]

You could be right on this one… we will see when it arrives

[glossy echo]

What was new

[fluid pawn]

So this was just the first one of these style of videos. My plan is to do more of them where I can go into more detail about new things or what the team are working on. Let me know what you'd like to see next! 🙂

[agile basin]

GLORY TO THE WORKERS COMRADES

[worthy charm]

Dead Game + Dead Gamemode = Undead Game?

[analog apex]

mortars and MG tripods pls 🙂 (I hope one day)

[thin lotus]

doubt it, servers will still be married to Warfare, even as bad as it is. Conquest will disappear much like Skirmish did.

Same thing happened with Squad, the general playerbase just sticks to whatever gamemode is the 'intended' one, regardless of there being other options.

[worthy charm]

Amazing

[nova pivot]

I prefer streams but I understand this is easier

[lucid tusk]

Anything really, ill take doodles the devs did at this point, just show me the WiP stuff

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-mind-blowing-mind-blown-gif-shocked-pikachu-face-blown-away-gif-2534211871731816473

[neat urchin]

Conquest mode = more camping

[thin scarab]

Could be Yes, also really Hope that will be the case..

[finite berry]

Tickets for the entire game, playable caracals and and Indominus skin for the PzKpfw IV. :)

That would unironically make me buy HLL lol

[oak current]

naah, people will waste 97% of their tickets and then tell you to not respawn, while respawning themselves.
Camping will be the same amount 😄

[worthy charm]

camping Defending in bushes
There is a difference

[midnight salmon]

GO AWAY

[fluid pawn]

Completely understand that. What I'll try do is livestreams being gameplay related (more relaxed, just talking abotu the game), and these as more focused topics

[finite berry]

no

[covert elbow]

More information on what’s happening. Kinda sore when next to nothing is revealed

[analog apex]

the tickets need to be stored inside the spawnpoints and limited so a spawncamping would **NOT **decide a match
(selfdestruct or a cooldown after a spawnpoint is out of tickets)

[fluid pawn]

WiP stuff. Noted 🫡

[finite berry]

Yep, completely agree. That's exactly how it works.

[neat urchin]

lmao it's going to be campers paradise with the kellers hiring medics to stay around them

[midnight salmon]

it breaks the fundamental concept of how hll works

[fluid pawn]

Completley understand that. This one was mainly a proof of concept and my plan is to be able to get more detailed in future ones

[finite berry]

As if people aren't camping already

[finite berry]

*fixes

[covert elbow]

Sounds like a plan!

[midnight salmon]

go back to squad please

[fluid pawn]

Just hoped that you enjoyed this style of video rather than just trailers or livestreams

[worthy charm]

Are you a big enough fool to have a discussion with elise?

[winged star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnpYaxw8Q9A

[covert elbow]

Alright I’m going to go cry about remagen and fall asleep. See y’all later

[finite berry]

I never left it lol

[neat urchin]

That's why i said more camping

[finite berry]

Fair

[midnight salmon]

good, stay there. guess why noobody is playing that game

[lucid tusk]

It worked, just needed more product, definitely go this way going forward, the livestreams get too cluttered.

[finite berry]

Why did I play yesterday then :)

[thin lotus]

people were crying about Skirmish, and those server rotations were gone in like a week lmao

[finite berry]

HLL still needs tickets by the way

[worthy charm]

You are nobody xD

[finite berry]

:)

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-you-say-stewie-stare-huh-gif-16922979

[analog apex]

SKIRMISH is however a badly implemented seeding gamemode

[fluid pawn]

Appreciate this! It was a tough one as a lot of the content for the year is either in development or still yet to be started, so this one was always going to be lighter. Moving forward I'll be able to show off more stuff hopefully which will be good!

[midnight salmon]

go back to your peak 200 player game

[lament surge]

you are somebody to me vro

[finite berry]

*400

[analog apex]

let's hope for a better implementation with CONQUEST, although we are yet to see how they will implement that one...

[worthy charm]

Shhh or you will attract the server owners

[finite berry]

?

[nova pivot]

I would love some teasers about the vehicles or the weapons

[fluid pawn]

I imagine the next dev diary will be conquest focused. If so, is there anythign specific you'd want covered?

[novel geyser]

seelow heads stay winning

[worthy charm]

Ben slide me a Screenshot of the Tank destroyers

I need it

[nova pivot]

Wrong chat William

[novel geyser]

although that dev diary felt a bit pointless outside of the map reveal it was basically just affirming what we already know mostly

[oak current]

you mistyped Horses

[gloomy quartz]

Cant wait for another open field unplayable map

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208

[oak current]

get horsed willes

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-disappointed-wow-not-funny-womp-womp-gif-5209485905233272018

[lucid tusk]

Hell id take a rough 3D model of a helmet in the unreal editor, i just like physically seeing the work being done

[oak current]

early images of the map, like they showed on stalingrad rework, with one-colour asset-placeholders.

[worthy charm]

Looking forward to TDs, that comp will ban as well because they are to strong

:}

[thin lotus]

they dont even date the roadmaps anymore lol

[lament surge]

yup

[lucid tusk]

Exactly

[oak current]

I keep reading that as TowerDefense and wonder each time, if we are getting outpost towers

[past vortex]

"grok, modify those existing model so it looks like in the picture i uploaded"

[worthy charm]

Those will be as good of an idea as hatches for tanks

[finite berry]

HLL Tower Defence would be fire lmao

[worthy charm]

Oh wait

[lucid tusk]

I dont carebif it's whitebox with a few buildings, I was a tester for the BF1 gallipoli maps, I'm used to it lol

[worthy charm]

Would be

[oak current]

aka Offensive

[thin lotus]

what does a hll dev do every day

seriously

[oak current]

happy lil towers, heavy MGs, paks, bla

[finite berry]

would play, ngl

[analog apex]

Good question, maybe these:

• how the tickets are implemented - if local or global (local would give us way more room for following:)
• if there will be some kind of ammo tickets to prevent respawning fully rearmed endlessly
  • if, then -** ammo ticket price for non-rifleman/nonSL loadouts**? or ammo ticket price for each used equipment during life?
  • removing restriction of 1x ammo box usage per life?
• does revival influence the tickets and how much (any bonus tickets reward for each revival for instance?)

[oak current]

global

[analog apex]

yeah but even global ticket system coudl be tied to some local events

[oak current]

I'm using the power of foresight

[analog apex]

I hope it's a mix

[thin lotus]

you overestimate the hll players' intelligence

[wintry thistle]

Seelow wins

Shocker

[analog apex]

what intelligence 😄

[cosmic pilot]

Whatever you say

[lucid tusk]

Seelow wins
Thank God*
FIFY

[analog apex]

And one more critical question about the system @fluid pawn

• what happens when the tickets get depleted? (I hope not a straight victory/defeat, nor imminent)

[finite berry]

What else do you want to happen then?

[nova pivot]

Yes lol

[finite berry]

Just make it so a revive does not result in a ticket lost while giving up does

[oak current]

Diplomacy talks between both commanders while the players wait.

[analog apex]

auto-losing the active frontline or just unlocking being able to capture it, while the enemy spawnpoints in that area will get disabled for a short while (or doubled the spawn waves timers)

[finite berry]

A Christmas Truce, so to say

I'm interested

[oak current]

players get to either eat food or play football.

...could actually see people play football in HLL

[lament surge]

no more respawning and the last people have to capture objective or protect til last man

[finite berry]

Okay, I can't really follow there because that goes beyond what I know about the game, sorry 😄

[cosmic pilot]

@fluid pawn
The most important question: what is the goal of the design of the new game mode and how do the mechanics achieve it.

[finite berry]

T17 could sell DLCs with football shirts

[finite berry]

(watch certain people ignore this statement where I openly admitted that I'm missing information/knowledge because I never played it 🙂)

[lament surge]

guh

[analog apex]

Also, with a different gamemode like that, HLL could use a a different system for the sectors - the grid square shaped sectors have been bad it's just one of the bad aspects of HLL though.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625321517487489034/1378439866177683496/TacMap_Foy.jpg?ex=6974666a&is=697314ea&hm=61f4b0783dad6db2526f7ff835aa55f00dd29dd32d9042a1c9b4aef7e924c5b8&=&format=webp&width=1980&height=1980

or something similar

if the grid squares stay, the gamemode can't be any much different from the already existing ones

[vocal trellis]

This but 100v100

[analog apex]

even on that map of mine, not all of them would need to be active at a time - to keep it for 50v50

but the paths to the other side would be different each time

and much more options and much more logical placement restrictions for the garrisons

imagine Westbend strongpoint location for example... horrible - GER can have a garri in the locked territory while still on the SP's doorstep

[vocal trellis]

Idk what u yapping ab

[past veldt]

I'd love for the Devs to explain why they think a ticket system will be good in HLL @fluid pawn

[vocal trellis]

Ticket system?

[analog apex]

I am yapping about that if we will have a ticket system, the garri placement in relation to the strongpoints needs to be fair, or the game's design will decide ticket drain instead of the teams.

the point is, the sector system dicates the garrison palcement restrictions and the garrison placement in relation to the SPs wil lgreatly influence the team's chances for drainign enemy tickets, hence the map sample

it plays a big role in this, although it may not be that appearent

[finite berry]

Medics actually having a point to be there? Punishing mindless meat grinds and asset waste? Reward killing many enemies?

[vocal trellis]

Yeah I understand now

[past veldt]

I asked why it will work in HLL

[oak current]

eh, people still redeploy

[fallen ravine]

Metz better

[past veldt]

Once again, You've never played the game so I don't expect you to understand how the game works

[finite berry]

It would out of necessity. People would simply have to adapt their playstyle.

[sterile pagoda]

YESSSSSS SEELOW WONNNN

[nova pivot]

Looks like the balcans

[sterile pagoda]

GOD BLESS

[past veldt]

Tickets go completely against Hell Let Loose's gameplay choices

[finite berry]

Many probably still would do. Still, that would get punished and experienced players would opt against redeploying too quickly.

I mean, it even works in Battlefield 1's Operations

In HLL, it would probably be more balanced and fair because the defenders also should get tickets imo

[finite berry]

Ever considered that you can change those in order to improve the game?

[oak current]

they wont get punished and experienced players will redeploy, cause they think their contribution is more important than waiting - cause in the meantime, less experienced players will waste tickets.
So they also click redeploy

[past veldt]

Have you ever considered playing the game?

[finite berry]

They will get punished if they lose. ;)

[finite berry]

Yes. Decided against it.

[oak current]

SQ44 had the same trouble, where people just kept redeploying, till the last few tickets were about to run out - then everyone hammered down on the "stay alive/wait for a medic" over and over 😄

[past veldt]

You clearly do not understand the design of the game, so stop trying to put out mindless thoughts on it

[finite berry]

Yes. So? :D

[past veldt]

Maybe you could discuss it in the Sq44 discord with your 15 alt accounts

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/dooly-gif-19284362

[finite berry]

You can accuse me of a lot of things, but not using alts :D

And why would I talk about HLL on the Squad 44 Discord :D

[oak current]

people wont adapt, they dont do it in either game

[finite berry]

Then they'll lose the match 🤷‍♂️

[oak current]

and go back to playing warfare, aye

[finite berry]

I kinda don't get the argument "eh, people wouldn't adapt, so let's just stick with a bad system because we're used to it"

[finite berry]

If it was for me, every game mode would get tickets :D

[hazy owl]

It would be cool to mention if there are any planned changes about SPA and Smolensk. Some reflection on the latest changes.

[oak current]

[finite berry]

Sam, ma boi 🤝

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538055883075354637/1451353103554183169/Cat_handshake.jpg?ex=6974aaa8&is=69735928&hm=8ddcd0e0d195928eb41b0d4bf878f0c6660213282ea6241f8bd80f76a4ce2558&=&format=webp

[rapid vessel]

how do we feel about the new dev video?

[past veldt]

Tickets are genuinely terrible model for FPS games. They work nicely in something like an RTS but in a 50v50 FPS... Awful awful decision

[finite berry]

Didn't watch it, but I'm glad that Seelow won.

[analog apex]

eeeehm... I expected more for a video, because nothing there was really showcased, they were just teeling stuff via words and no visuals. Could have been easily a text devBrief instead.

[fluid pawn]

I beleive I mentioned it when the roadmap was initially released, however we are going to continue working on armor and spas as we move through the next roadmap don't worry

[past veldt]

Yaaay. The end of my game will be sat in a spawn menu hoping the enemy team bleed tickets

Zzzzz

Yaaay the new player in the game can now mechanically destroy our team accidentally by wasting tickets

Zzzzz

I think this game mode is worse than that trailer they released

[hazy owl]

9 meetings a day and a lunch

[analog apex]

b... but... mortars 🙁

[frail heart]

How did a soviet map win over a US/GER map?
Who even plays sthe soviet maps

[past veldt]

Truly the Brexit vote of the HLL era

48/52 and it was just all Russian bots voting

[smoky willow]

I hope seelow heights doesn't play like kursk

[frail heart]

"Lets give the community a vote but secrectly decide ourselves"

[analog apex]

if it does, well... I am looking forward to my MG42's buzzsawing 😄

[finite berry]

And here we have the first "noo it's rigged" comment lol

[smoky willow]

Can't believe people wanted another kursk map instead of a medieval fort map

[frail heart]

I wouldnt be surprised man they need to prove there army still good

[smoky willow]

I voted for Metz

[oak current]

#mess-hall message

[frail heart]

👀

[finite berry]

Many people simply didn't want yet another US map

Aka map set in late war France

[smoky willow]

I only play soviet when I'm AT with rockets

[past veldt]

Developers sat there wondering why there's so much negativity in HLL and then they release 26 maps in a row no one enjoys and introduce two gamemodes dead on arrival

[frail heart]

I just take the soviet maps outta rotation everyone happy

[finite berry]

Can the maps and gamemodes at least come out before you call them bad or dead lol

[smoky willow]

But another map with no cover and trenches over a map with a medieval fort?

[frail heart]

Id rather have Remegan 2 than another soviet map

[past veldt]

Tickets = dead

Seelow heights = terrible concept for Hell Let Loose

[finite berry]

Don't get me wrong, I get that point. Still, wait until it's out to see how it plays out.

For now, I'd say it's good that the Soviets get more attention

[finite berry]

I also think that Conquest will be DOA, but not because of the tickets

[frail heart]

I dont think they need attention, if anyone does its the Brits but who wants to play them either lol

[past veldt]

Soviets just had Smolensk. Let's at least try to produce a map people might play

[fallen ravine]

Buddy this will be three Soviet maps in a row

[novel geyser]

do you think the "comp" in comp player stands for "complaining"

[smoky willow]

That's true there's only 4 soviet maps I just wish they release both so there's no missed content

[past veldt]

Pick a soviet map, no fuss, but Seelow heights... It's just Soviet Elsenborn Ridge

[finite berry]

Both the British and the Soviets need more attention; and if the British are bad, why not fix that faction? 😄

[frail heart]

First Vietnam map will actually be located in Moscow Region in the HLL Universe #NewLore

[finite berry]

And it will still be less than the US have if I'm not mistaken.

[past veldt]

I played Call of duty world at war, I know Seelow Heights well

[smoky willow]

There's only 4 soviet maps in the game

[fallen ravine]

How many of them are actively played compared to the legacy maps

[frail heart]

0.2% players play them

[fallen ravine]

They doooo doooo

[harsh egret]

And 2 out of 4 are unplayable crashfests that all server owners removed from rotation.

[smoky willow]

Because most people can't run stalingrad and smolensk without performance issues

I enjoy those citys maps because I'm running a 5070

[neat urchin]

@fluid pawn What was the vote count for each map?

[frail heart]

Flex? I also run same 😉

[smoky willow]

I'd rather play a city map than a map with no cover in an open flat field

[smoky willow]

https://tenor.com/view/pout-kiss-blowing-a-kiss-suspense-christian-bale-gif-16931550113965916217

[fluid pawn]

Almost identical to the youtube chat one which was wild. around 45:55 to seelow

[frail heart]

Defo AI Bots 👀

[neat urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/you-sure-about-that-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-are-you-absolutely-certain-are-you-positive-can-you-verify-that-gif-10549268703103241949

[fluid pawn]

Our team was split on what we wanted as well so this was all about what the community wanted 🙂

It's going to be great guys dw

[gleaming pelican]

You guys really voted for Kursk 2 map first!? Damn...

[past veldt]

Were they split on introducing Tickets to HLL?

[neat urchin]

$100 it was metz lol

[frail heart]

When it releases we should get the stats of how many players are actually playing it longer than the first week

[fleet jacinth]

Another stutter fest of a map no doubt

[frail heart]

Wait are they adding tickets?

[past veldt]

https://mattw.io/hll-server-browser/

Scroll to the bottom

[past veldt]

To the new game mode apparently

DOA. Tells me that Vietnam is going to have a bunch of ticket gamemodes too. Zzzzz

[frail heart]

Oh no team17 have done it again

[worthy charm]

Ahh, Altberg was right as always

People being mad about a vote

Always fun again

[novel geyser]

people just cant handle peak

[finite berry]

Jokes on you, city maps run worse than open field maps

[worthy charm]

The salt

You rascal

[gilded spade]

So T17 is going to make a whole new game mode so the medic role is less useless
Jesus christ

[finite berry]

Also, not sure, but I think for games like this, you need a good CPU more than a good GPU

[mellow knoll]

FACTS.

Yet another map to avoid, love it lmao

[fallen ravine]

Thank you tank players

[finite berry]

That would be incredibly based

[smoky willow]

intel core i7 rtx 5070 I recommend these but I came from playing project reality milsim so i only care about performance and not graphics I run my stuff all the way to performance through the nvidia overlay

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[frail heart]

I think with the current state of things we should all start playing project reality

[smoky willow]

facts and it got Vietnam and WW2

I'm hoping HLL Vietnam is not a disaster and can run better than HLL

[finite berry]

Isn't Project Reality the "father" of Squad?

[smoky willow]

Yes sir

[finite berry]

based

[inner cosmos]

does anyone have the HLL america first discord?

[worthy charm]

The what discord?

dafaq?

[fallen ravine]

You wouldn’t know buddy.

[past vortex]

for the crazies :}

[inner cosmos]

for research

[worthy charm]

shhhhhhhh

-# thats what I thought as well tho

[inner cosmos]

honestly dont blame you

[past vortex]

btw i had someone join as supporter in my arty recon squad yesterday
first time, its soooo good

double the flares and building garries while recon hunting

[honest pecan]

@worthy charm

[inner cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-jockey-minecraft-minecraft-movie-jack-black-chicken-jockey-minecraft-gif-7741901651009981063

[pine ember]

Nope, people that are tired of US

Thank you T17 for Seelow

[past vortex]

there were certainly scripts involved

no one said they actually tooke the result btw :D

[nova pivot]

It has no reasons to,it is just a big open field

[past veldt]

Hopefully it's a good map (it's going to be an open field so...)

[pine ember]

And you seriously think Metz would be so much better?

I have no problems on open maps...

[past veldt]

As a HLL map? Of course.

Kursk is an awful HLL map

[past vortex]

you got to have faith... they will manage

[honest pecan]

The cycle of life of a HLL player. Play only Am-Ger maps -> Keep saying that there aren't any good Soviet maps -> The devs add a new Soviet map -> No one plays it -> Play only Am-Ger maps

[pine ember]

Kursk is better than half of the US maps

[past veldt]

Really? What about it makes it a good map?

[pine ember]

There are good Soviet maps though

[nova pivot]

That is a fact brother

[honest pecan]

Every Soviet map is good and fun

[nova pivot]

Trenches, I love trenches

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-dwight-facts-the-office-dwight-gif-25782901

[mellow knoll]

Not open maps

Because it's just constant death to MGs, snipers and tanks

[nova pivot]

Just put trenches everywhere

[past vortex]

i avoid smol ensk and stalingrad, just dont wanna play with even lower fps

[honest pecan]

No American map has the PPSh which makes the Soviet maps superior by default

[pine ember]

I requires a slower approach and proper teamwork. The fighting in the trenches and villages is just intense and is truly WW2. It just embraches what makes HLL a great game

[thin lotus]

slowly teleports behind you

[mellow knoll]

They did

They're adding Juno Beach lmao

[past veldt]

But any semi competent tank crew will just spawn camp tank spawns from the middle of the map, and then perma delete OPs and garrisons from behind the 6 bits of cover available

[honest pecan]

Isn't that Canadian?

[mellow knoll]

Yes which is under the Commonwealth, AKA Britain.

[nova pivot]

Behind my trench

[nova pivot]

Yes, with trenches I hope

[pine ember]

And any semi competent team can take these tanks out

[thin lotus]

goofy hll gameplay, doesnt matter the map, but there's maps more egregious than others

[past veldt]

How

Once one team is on top, they just stay there because their tanks don't die

[pine ember]

Theres plenty of cover on Kursk too, the problem with the tanks I have on El Alamein

[past veldt]

'AT guns'

Easy kills for tanks

[mellow knoll]

The Commonwealth was a combination of multiple nations that fought with Britain with British equipment

They may as well look like British soldiers in game.

[pine ember]

Tanks? Precision strikes? Slowly sneaking upon the tanks and satchel them?

[past vortex]

kursk sure is more likely to be a stomp
kinda hard to come back once the enemy has set up in the middle

[pine ember]

Doesnt matter anyway, people voted and thats the result

[mellow knoll]

The only thing that differentiated them was their division symbols, really.

I could be wrong there 🤷‍♂️

[past vortex]

it doesnt matter because it will also be slow and thus avoided

[past veldt]

So when the Germans get on top and dominate the hills, they can just spawn camp tanks.

How do you sneak across an open field?

Precision strikes from the soviets are broken, and from specific directions split into 3 and do not hit anything

[pine ember]

I see Kursk quite often though...

[past vortex]

kursk isnt slow

[mellow knoll]

Doesn't necessarily mean people like it, though.

[past veldt]

Currently 94 players on PC playing Kursk btw

[pine ember]

Use the trenches... I wouldnt suggest playing Kursk like SME either

[past veldt]

Oh another server just flipped onto it

[past vortex]

i like it for a change but it has the potential for disaster more than other maps

[past veldt]

Use the trenches against tanks which can splash you for free?

I don't even like SME anyway, so nice argument 🫂

[sullen summit]

Their uniforms were green instead of brown

[past veldt]

Maybe Kursk is fun on a new player friendly milsim server idk

[pine ember]

If you adapt to the map youll have no problem. I played Kursk pretty often and I never had serious balance issues

[past veldt]

I don't get this argument

How do you 'adapt' to a tank which can just splash every piece of cover on the map for free

There is no adapting, it's just pointless

[thin lotus]

he will now say "its supposed to suck"

[past vortex]

with your own tanks and at guns ofc

[past veldt]

The moment one sides tanks win the initial duels, it's gg

Everything is spawn camped and splashed into oblivion

[thin lotus]

garbage easy combat and low ttk, and its irreversible consequences.

It is way way way too easy to zone in HLL

[past vortex]

they cant camp 3 hq spawns and still splash trenches

[past veldt]

'it is a tank dominant map where teamwork prevails'

[past veldt]

What

It takes like 16 seconds to kill a tank

[past vortex]

but yea it requires at least the same number of tans, as soon as you have even one less its a stomp

[past veldt]

Spotter sees tank

Tank turns to shoot tank

Tank dies 16s later and is on a 10 minute cooldown so you can forget about it for a bit

[past veldt]

Which fundamentally doesn't work in HLL public servers

Kursk is, without a doubt, the second worst map to be created for HLL

[past vortex]

yea thats what i said, its really likely to be one-sided

[pine ember]

By far not

PHL is much worse

[past vortex]

but then you also dont have good tank crews to camp the enemy often

so its not always unsalvageable

[silk igloo]

german heavy holding the windmill is just a stalemate since the russian heavy can do the exact same from their HQ. i'd say that the russian is in a better position since the HQ cant be taken out and they wont run out of ammo or repairs

[past veldt]

PHL is slightly better because you don't just sit on a big hill and shoot at HQ spawns

Soviets have T34 which is a busted tank too, which is at least a bonus for them

[pine ember]

PHL is one of the worst maps in HLL, alongside Remagen and El Alamein

Kursk isnt the best, but not bad either

[past veldt]

This doesn't win you any game as the soviets either. And the reverse applies as well anyway

[past vortex]

alamein is the worst by a big margin

[silk igloo]

and im pretty sure that you can shoot the south side of windmills with an AT gun in the far east

[past veldt]

El Alamein has essentially all of the same issues as Kursk...

Except no mandatory HQ camping

[pine ember]

No, Kursk has way more cover

[thin lotus]

😐

[past veldt]

I honestly think you might have some secret Kursk I don't have access to play on

[pine ember]

Maybe, I can pass you a key

[past veldt]

Yeah, please. I'd love to be able to regularly enjoy a map released after 2020

[pine ember]

There are plenty

[past veldt]

Actually Smolensk is fun in pubs

Mortain is fun but rarely played

That's the extent of fun maps released since U7

[pine ember]

Mortain isnt that fun

Its just empty

[past veldt]

I'm a mortain enjoyer but I'm a minority there

[pine ember]

If you have a good squad and fight in the town area its pretty fun

[mellow knoll]

It's the opposite imo

The fact it has so many bushes really makes seeing enemies annoying.

Kinda like that about that map but hate it at the same time.

[pine ember]

Yea but you see it was the first map Expression made

[past veldt]

As a certified rat, I enjoy this 🙃

[mellow knoll]

So do I lmao

Great SS smock map to make things even harder for the enemy to see you.

[stoic garnet]

Kursk PHL and El Alamein are perma banned against comp teams with competent armor (mine) the maps aren’t balanced for tanks, and you can rack up 250+ kills on them

Tanks on windmill have more impact on the enemy team, and tanks in HQs are favored to win the duel vs windmills

Because the spawns are filled with houses and debris that don’t render, that you can stick your barrel just over/through and be 99% in cover, with windmills tank not able to see what is exposed

PHL is surprisingly a mixed bag with armor due to low elevation. It’s oppressive but not in the same league

[past veldt]

Don't need to explain how comp works to me 😉

[past veldt]

Windmill tanks will just sit below ridge line and roll up to delete tanks when relevant. The timers on these are really predictable, so you can just splash spawns for ages and then roll back when the tanks are due

And I don't know a single high tier tank crew that wouldn't look at the map before to learn the ping distances beyond the unrendered houses for know when you can and can't hit the HQ tanks

Besides, the same exact issue occurs when Soviet tanks dominate, which they can as T34 is so good

[oak current]

in comp, each team has their own community logo

[mellow knoll]

In comp, we do comp.

[pine ember]

Not really, there are far more worse ones

[inner cosmos]

its okay for me. i just dont like tobruk and smolensk

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/come-here-kitty-kitten-cat-cat-meme-gif-9842965060322201652

[mellow knoll]

El Alamein, Tobruk, Kursk

My main 3 disliked maps

[pine ember]

Tobruk and Kursk are alright

My most hated are PHL, Foy, El Alamein

[inner cosmos]

carentan my beloved

[nova pivot]

Foy and utah I like the rest of them

[analog apex]

don't you touch my Foy!
Foy is great

[nova pivot]

False

[analog apex]

false that your false

[pine ember]

Right I forgot Utah

[mellow knoll]

Foy's a banger, especially with snow storms.

[nova pivot]

Utah is disgusting

[pine ember]

I will replace El Alamein with Utah

[mellow knoll]

I like all normandy maps

[nova pivot]

Omaha on the other hand 😘

[pine ember]

Even that isnt that good

[nova pivot]

It is

There are a lot of unique buildings

And the beach section is real cool

The big trench networks

[analog apex]

Utah is badly designed, the side midPoints favour 1 side way too much with also asset nonDestructible razor wire, while the only open objective in the mid (Chapel) greatly favours the US with the strongpoint's positioning

[pine ember]

Most Normandy maps are just boring and overplayed imo

[nova pivot]

Yes overplayed but not boring

[mellow knoll]

Well they would be since they are the oldest maps 😂

[nova pivot]

They are boring because they are overplayed

[cyan saddle]

boring because overplayed

beat me to it

[nova pivot]

Abu we have conection

We should kiss

[pine ember]

I have to admid Smolensk is becoming my favorite map

[mellow knoll]

Naturally would feel overplayed if we've had them for 5 years

[nova pivot]

It's horrible

Can't even play it without lagging like crazy

[pine ember]

I have no problems with it

[nova pivot]

And I hate the yellowish tone it has

[mellow knoll]

I like it, but it lags

[pine ember]

Yea but I have seen them way too often even though we got new maps

[nova pivot]

Same, the layout is cool , but I cant enjoy the games

[worthy charm]

Youre not one of those weird console players tho

[stoic garnet]

Doesn’t matter if windmill knows there’s debris, spawn tanks have a license to pin windmill down indefinitely and will always win trades. One heavy holding an unrendered spawn angle makes windmill irrelevant for spawn killing

[past veldt]

Just read the dev diary

'long requested ticket system'

My guy. Ticket system has been stated just over 600 times on this discord in 7 years, of which most people are stating how it doesn't work across other games and doesn't suit this one

I'd love to know the research and discussions had by the dev team @fluid pawn

[main harness]

Copy battlefield

[past veldt]

Tell me you've never played comp at a high level without telling me

[main harness]

Meanwhile no actual balance changes or fixes. They don't even know why allied tanks are so strong

[thin lotus]

they checked in randomly one day, saw a discussion about tickets, then assumed it was wanted

actually and hilariously out of touch

[past veldt]

#mess-hall message

[stoic garnet]

Lol

[past veldt]

🫂

[thin lotus]

🙇

[past veldt]

Which comp team do you play for? You brought up comp first 🫂

[stoic garnet]

TL until dissolution, now PF

[past veldt]

Ooof

Say no more

[stoic garnet]

And you?

[past veldt]

WTH

[stoic garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-rider-turbo-boost-tap-gif-1436613715396365528

[past veldt]

🫂

[pine ember]

Yes, thank god

El Alamein, PHL, Utah, Driel kinda sucks too,...

Does that matter? I wouldnt say so

[inner cosmos]

wait theres bad performance on smolensk for others too?

[pine ember]

Kursk is alright, you have plenty of trenches you can use for cover, factions are relatively balanced,...

[worthy charm]

Driel?

Utah?

I get PHL tho

Terrible map

[inner cosmos]

it would be nice if we got italian campaign maps

[past vortex]

it needs sharks

[pine ember]

Driel is better than Remagen but still too open and the river makes flanks impossible unless you wanna get shot at. Its pretty flat too

[inner cosmos]

L96A1 bane of my existence

[past vortex]

hahaha, controller aiming so bad, why not make it even worse with vibration

[pine ember]

Utah is too flat, too empty, and I just played it too many times. I just dont enjoy it because its too vanilla

The British guns are more fun than most American ones

[inner cosmos]

@dim snow british weapons so bad that they had to outsource an American-designed gun for their service this year

[pine ember]

When I play as the US I only use the Garand because the others suck

[inner cosmos]

i think the british army would have a better time using kitchen knives as their primary service weapon

[pine ember]

And the USMC uses German made guns, so...

[inner cosmos]

yeah so? germany makes good guns

also we made the AR15 platform and the 1911

[pine ember]

*the best

[inner cosmos]

its simply preference

[inner cosmos]

nah switzerland makes the highest quality rifles

[pine ember]

Stoner was heavily inspired by a certain German gun

[inner cosmos]

Stoner was a prototype

[pine ember]

Swiss guns are overrated and outdated too

[inner cosmos]

it was not used in favor of the m60

[inner cosmos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdCJNilFjVM

[lost jewel]

i cant wait for this game

[pine ember]

It has a good quality but is already 40 years old

The Swiss neutrality raises and ruins the quality of their army at the same time

https://tenor.com/view/leopard-stabilization-what-ok-yaeh-gif-27541324

For that I love my Leo 2 too much

Challenger is second for me

[inner cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/space-bingus-phone-big-chungas-yall-smile-gif-16524559

[pine ember]

As long as its not a "T" tank its ok

[inner cosmos]

these teams make me so mad that i decided to take a shower

[pine ember]

Depends on the server and time of the day, nowadays I often get surprisingly good teams

Though I had a really bad one yesterday

[inner cosmos]

i get the best teams literally at midnight

all the chuds are offline

[lost jewel]

telling all my plumbers brothers to get it

[pine ember]

Same, something like 22-24:00 on a weekend day, and then certain German servers

Yesterday I played at 17:00 and had one of the worst teams ever

[past vortex]

are they

[inner cosmos]

well its a friday so im looking forward to seeing all the chads coming out of the woodwork tn

[past vortex]

oh console... no idea then

[pine ember]

Normal here, I joined a French server and was kicked despite I tried to speak le baguette

[past vortex]

what did you expect

[pine ember]

It has gotten better over the years but they often still speak little English

[past vortex]

even if they do they often dont want to

[inner cosmos]

deleted it myself

not looking to start shi

be a record

[past vortex]

thats a lie :D

[inner cosmos]

wrong gif

https://tenor.com/view/quandale-dingle-gif-25619897

[worthy charm]

The one thing all nations unit over

Hate of the french

[past vortex]

and what countries are liked ?

[pine ember]

True, but especially the British and Germans, Italians too

[past vortex]

i lived there for a year

[inner cosmos]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589292970541318185/1320036807374536766/attachment4.gif

average french male

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

[past vortex]

hahaha

[inner cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/sebastian-aho-sebastian-aho-hurricanes-carolina-gif-15568126855808467542

[worthy charm]

Germans are the worst

[inner cosmos]

i supposedly have german ancestry

[past vortex]

(i still have some reservations about french, but its mostly inconsequential manners, other countries are also bad:)

[inner cosmos]

france has nude protests so basically im in

oh sorry fr*nce

[edgy gulch]

Ngl with the new maps t17 was talking about I thought we were getting both, didn’t realise they would short change us with a ‘community vote’ but in all honestly the new maps are just gonna make the game unplayable on console again so the sensible thing would to not add anything and don’t make it anymore broken

[worthy charm]

I never heard anyone ever be mad about the Spanish

Except maybe when Sparta is an idiot again

:}

[past vortex]

well i could tell you
but no one is ever talking about them so yea :D

[inner cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-mewing-mogged-gif-10236320132255357052

[past vortex]

we do talk about mexico tho :}

[inner cosmos]

M*xico

[pine ember]

@nova pivot

[past vortex]

i mean... every country where you go to holiday to does, no?

[pine ember]

In hating FRANZOSEN GRRRR??

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411642411909910529/1453742437087318198/attachment.gif

[nova pivot]

What happens

[pine ember]

Look above

[past vortex]

we are talking about mexicans

[nova pivot]

Flop you

[worthy charm]

Flop me

[past vortex]

the worst

[worthy charm]

What are you doing to my beautiful language

Its Currywurst

[pine ember]

Currywurst is the worst wurst

Nah joke, its pretty good in Berlin

[worthy charm]

Also its not even a wurst, people use everything for currywurst thats a wurst

[livid verge]

God damn it im to scared to be tank commander because the whole team relyes on them

[pine ember]

huh

[past vortex]

he is saying a wurst isnt a wurst

or something

[pine ember]

Depends, I dont get it

Woah I think these times are thankfully gone

[past vortex]

some wurst are the worst

[pine ember]

Ok that was funny

[worthy charm]

Im saying that its not always the same kinds of sausage for currywurst, whilst white sausages are always white sausages

[pine ember]

Ahhh yep

[past vortex]

we dont have lager tho

:D

[worthy charm]

Wrong answer

:}

[pine ember]

Thats sad

I always recommend small local breweries over the big ones

No decent lager there

Yep

https://tenor.com/view/geschichten-paulaner-garten-seemannsgarn-lügen-märchen-gif-26325100

Those Germans who know know

Warsteiner is also kinda a meme here

That is good

[hazy owl]

https://tenor.com/view/mjw-pivo-prazdroj-plzeň-beer-gif-21550442

[ancient bloom]

Brock Lesnar

[hasty egret]

can we somehow ban Akame user?

[lucid tusk]

It's not too late to make juno on June 6th instead of 7

[past veldt]

With the amount of alt accounts they have, not really

[novel geyser]

Not sure why they specifically went with that
could just be like the other beach maps where there is the landings for offensive and beachhead for warfare

[lucid tusk]

They just dont want to have to make an LCA model

[frail heart]

Do settings still randomly reset?

[past vortex]

yes

[lucid tusk]

@novel geyser maybe it'll be like omaha offensive/warfare is now with 2 slightly different maps depending on the date

[novel geyser]

yea

no reason not to

[lucid tusk]

But then they'd have to make LCAs

[thin lotus]

what is the least amount work we have to do to get another map in
what can we reskin

do we even need to reskin

[lucid tusk]

Can never let people enjoy their hopium, can you?

[thin lotus]

hopium tanks been dry for a long time, so what are they huffing

[lucid tusk]

Every now and again I find a calcified chunk at the bottom of the tank

[hazy owl]

Chum is on the hate streak...been there done that

[lucid tusk]

I've been listening to him for 6 years, he's a good dude, I get the frustration

[vestal nimbus]

i just want you all to know that if i run into you and your wearing winter camo in summer maps i will team kill the living === out of you infact if anyone wears a historical incorrect uniform im teamkilling you too i just dont care anymore

[thin lotus]

not hate. I'm not emotionally invested in this game

[hazy owl]

By the way it was kind of funny how the man emphasised the historic accuracy and authenticity of the next vehicle types and skins in the video while I was thinking of SPAs...

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/chonky-cat-chonk-cats-cute-tickle-gif-22976826

i like cats

[livid verge]

POV my head after artillery strikes me

https://tenor.com/view/nah-no-way-bruh-gif-25224808

[vestal nimbus]

im eating spagetti tonigt

[brave flower]

lovely

[glass rose]

When's food

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdo-cat-meme-cat-hat-gif-5000580764924591246

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-follow-me-gif-4273618567139914195

[errant vapor]

Lowk manual bolt cycling is peak

Some may not like it but its so immersive

[nova pivot]

You like me then

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-big-floppa-lil-floppa-flop-floppa-flop-gif-22883844

[heady pivot]

Im gonna be new to the 1440 scene, is it gonna be a better experience or is it gonna be hardly noticeable visually? I’ve been playing 1080p for a longgg while

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-cat-cat-has-been-alerted-gif-26351872

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-big-big-floppa-kitty-review-gif-21384663

[slate canopy]

allright

tone the gifs down

[nova pivot]

Boys run, is the fun police

[brave flower]

👍 🤣

[oak current]

apparently its one of the biggest helping factors when playing HLL

...or at least people who have it on 1440 dont want to go back

[cyan saddle]

im not going back ^

[covert elbow]

Just wish it was faster

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-shield-gif-4723149553822545077

[onyx heron]

DAY 76

GIVE ME A DATE FOR HELL LET LOOSE VIETNAM ❤️

[pastel igloo]

so

its seelow height or metz

[slate canopy]

#telegrams message

[pastel igloo]

so

where the hell is pps43

[inner cosmos]

Floppa

[slate canopy]

.... huh?

[rigid mantle]

[real parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813465453942145067/1364712269107298334/speechmemified_tankfly.gif

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-gif-14166304225566783519

[patent crater]

[delicate sphinx]

TUff

[real parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[delicate sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-gif-5371755

[real parrot]

xd

[fringe hollow]

there's a fine line between funny gifs and gif spam

[nocturne birch]

Gif lover here

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cats-of-the-internet-cute-cat-cat-face-gif-17600829

[last prawn]

is oceania servers active on pc

[errant vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/brutal-kitty-battle-kitty-battle-kitten-attack-kittens-fight-gif-7508370341682640059

[nova pivot]

He got zapped

🤣

Who zapped him? Polar bear? Or was it Drew?

[brave flower]

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

[slate canopy]

Guys, ENOUGH

[slate canopy]

There are a handful

[nova pivot]

Jajaja

You'll never change Polarbear

[pine ember]

what happened?

[finite berry]

Gif spam

[pine ember]

Ahhh

wait a second

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tank-gif-25914406

[last prawn]

how many servers

[slate canopy]

I don't know off hand 😅 I don't play on those. Maybe like 5-10 for Australia? I know there are some Japanese. Maybe 5-10 also

[nova pivot]

Did you shoot at polarbear With a 88?

Based

[pine ember]

Hoppla

[silk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochi-mochi-peach-cat-gif-cat-mochi-mochi-peach-cat-its-gif-2251612597025469927

[inner cosmos]

Holy 2016

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930964517918216264/1111215700707643392/voicemessage.gif

[dawn summit]

new map what time are coming

[winter rover]

Italy?

[dawn summit]

no no

new uptade what ctime comin

[winter rover]

I want italy

[dawn summit]

ı want more soviet

[worthy charm]

We dont know yet.

[dawn summit]

how can ı get nkvd hat in the game

[pine ember]

Based

[pine ember]

You cant

[dawn summit]

whyyy

[pine ember]

That cosmetic was never released I think

[dawn summit]

in real life ı had one nkvd hat but in gamee ım cryin

[pine ember]

And its an NKVD uniform, it makes no sense in a historical perspective, this is a war game and not a war crime game

[dawn summit]

in this game has nazis

[pine ember]

In which form?

This game has German soldiers

[winter rover]

ew

[pine ember]

The eastern front was the biggest and most important front of the war. It deserves more than four maps

[worthy charm]

Dont say that, it always leads to the worst kind of situations.

[pine ember]

Its a fact. People who deny that have no idea of the dimension and the importance of the eastern front

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[nova pivot]

It makes sense in Stalingrad

[pine ember]

Yea, but they arent even soldiers

[nova pivot]

But they have weapons

And kill Germans

While speaking russian and charging for comrade Stalin

[pine ember]

The NKVD cosmetic will never be released anyway

I think it either never was released or just pretty limited

[silk igloo]

i dont think angry, yapping americans is the worst, i think its funny

[nova pivot]

I think it was given to the initial supporters

[pine ember]

Indeed, the yankies are much worse when they say murica did everything

[nova pivot]

The ones that donated money

[silk igloo]

americans should've properly liberated europe and given us the 2nd amendment though

[nova pivot]

Why

[silk igloo]

im jealous of them having all the funs

[nova pivot]

Fair

[silk igloo]

damn this escalated quickly

[fallen ravine]

Y’all never talk about those stories tho

[cyan saddle]

someone call the mods

oh wait

[nova pivot]

🤣

[cyan saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

[nova pivot]

Calm down