mess-hall

[nova pivot]

How do you want me to not complain?

[worthy charm]

Frech

One could even say the console port was a bad idea.... but who would be that mean. I wouldnt ever

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rekt-boi-elmo-shot-execution-gif-15314352

@gray lagoon feel free to express yourself in German, I will translate it

[gray lagoon]

I don't play on console so it might be really bad and I wouldn't know it.

I am only learning german at school, I probrably butchered my message above

[nova pivot]

A lol

@worthy charm write faster I need to sleep

[worthy charm]

sind -> ist
als -> auf
Im to lazy to explain... I long forgot every grammar rule from back in like 3rd or 4th class.

[worthy charm]

Then go sleeping little floppa

[gray lagoon]

Aber, moderatorin sind plural

[nova pivot]

Skill issue

[nova pivot]

I thought the message was for me

😔

[worthy charm]

Its singular, Moderatorinnen would be plural

[gray lagoon]

So ein mist.

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/woran-hat-es-gelegen-winner-team-play-mic-gif-14758045

Jaaaa woran hats gelegen?

Anyway, back to english please

[ancient harness]

English is OG imperial German before English stole 50% of French's vocabulary

[half lotus]

Shoutout my label thats me

[river swan]

Why didd the "AT infantry and Armour/Vehicle Changes + Faction asymmetry get locked from being commented on? Are we not allowed to have discussion and debate differences?

[prisma fiber]

Nope

[graceful solstice]

please revert to the old death screen

[finite berry]

Törken

[shy relic]

He’s not wrong tho

[grizzled vessel]

how does the arty gun resupply?

[analog apex]

the Commander has to do it via usage of his "Artillery resupply" (or "rearm"?... whatever) power.

so you need to ask your artillery SL to ask the Commander to do it... or ask in the text chat and hope the CMD will notice

[karmic coral]

Hello

[finite berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375724858115620864/1450050895936094298/image.png?ex=694120a2&is=693fcf22&hm=3031d44ff0c2406e77887396898c6a13c5d3e02ddefd64e993c7ced4b76aff2f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Interesting how HLL's player count on Steam increased by 13% last month

Which page are you getting these stats from?

[delicate mortar]

A major update only bringing back this much is nothing to brag about.

[finite berry]

True, hadn't considered that

[analog apex]

here https://mattw.io/hll-server-browser/ but you need to scroll down under the servers list

[finite berry]

Thank you!

[finite berry]

Does a similar thing exist for consoles?

[analog apex]

I don't think so.

[finite berry]

Copy, thanks

[analog apex]

Or I don't know about it at least.

[midnight salmon]

is hll dead yet?

does t17 care yet?

new tank meta is absolute trash. tank changes ruin inf experience in comp. let's just play tank only going forward

[novel geyser]

Comp mentioned

[finite berry]

Opinion rejected 😄

[analog apex]

☝️ 😆

[midnight salmon]

go stroke it for making 25 kills on public against players who dont shoot back 😘

[arctic rampart]

You're really fitting the stereotypical comp guy theme. Not the best of images

[finite berry]

q.e.d. 😄

[novel geyser]

He doesn't know 😏

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-smiling-cute-pet-gif-17869715

[arctic rampart]

Damn, why is video editing so time-consuming? Takes like ages to do anything

[livid verge]

Idk what main I am....

[ornate python]

Is the additional optimization work in the room with us right now?

[turbid plaza]

Probably because they were testing the new map

[sturdy quarry]

any other fixes coming in the next hotfix @fluid pawn or just fixes for Ps5 vaseline?

[turbid plaza]

Dont expect much from t17...

[sturdy quarry]

ofc, im not buying HLLV until they deliver 3 patches to HLL in a row that only have minor issues

so it will be a long wait

[cosmic pilot]

There is a double irony.
The bug on console that dropped everything down a LOD level would constitute an optimization. But I also bet it didn't increase fps in a meaningful way.

[turbid echo]

@cosmic pilot im learning development and its super complex surprised a game even works lol

@cosmic pilotespecially dealing with lod models like how you make roads and choose which models to load when like around curves like long curves choosing between high res and low res models on the long curves

[cosmic pilot]

A road with a curve is essentially two curves at a different radius. If you have something like a racing game where you know the player is only going to be on the road, you could lod each side of the road independently to account for the curve. The inner curve you'd want higher detail, because it'll be seen closer sooner and the outer curve you'd want lower detail, since you'll approach it slightly slower and see farther.

[turbid echo]

see like that there

so many tricks and stuff to learn lol

actually scary how much needs done

[cosmic pilot]

Eh don't be too scared.
The best way is to just build experience on lower demanding projects.
In the ideal, you'll have enough experience to approach developing a game first, but with in mind a strong path to optimize in the future.

[slender canyon]

Hell let loose got some mad visual glitches right now don’t it, guessing we’re stuck with it for a week or 2?

[cosmic pilot]

Rapid prototyping is to me more important, but if you build your assets smartly it'll make optimization easier later.

[grizzled kiln]

Guess neither BM or T17 did that tho

[gritty crag]

morning everyone

[cosmic pilot]

I would say this is correct.
That being said, the density of assets in hll maps is impressive to me.

[grizzled kiln]

I remember the thread in here showing a silly little object with literally millions of triangles. Just made no sense at all

Instead of doing something about it, they just deleted the thread 😄 Out of sight, out of mind

[cosmic pilot]

This number gets bigger each time it's brought up lol

[grizzled kiln]

It was ridiculously high

[cosmic pilot]

A part of it has to do with setting as well.
It'd be much easier to make a large scale game set in North Africa than Normandy France

[grizzled kiln]

#1111478900153921608 message

hmm

[cosmic pilot]

Only half a million

[grizzled kiln]

yeah only 600k..

but thats not the worst one though

[cosmic pilot]

But yeah, stuff like that is the result of not knowing any better

[grizzled kiln]

You'd think..,Skill issue apparently

[cosmic pilot]

Which tbf, I would say the majority of game devs don't know any better

[grizzled kiln]

Yeah pretty sad state that most modern games are in. With some outliers

[turbid plaza]

Youll never be buying it then

Everytime i see Ben B drop a message from t17 i jist wanna tell him to F off

[sturdy quarry]

dont shoot the messenger as they say

[cosmic pilot]

It's not your server

[turbid plaza]

Maybe hell pass the message

?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-joey-tribiani-friends-matt-leblanc-friends-joey-gif-10322563916713180683

[pearl ledge]

this game still the worst game ever made or worth a reinstall?

[grizzled kiln]

There are no alternatives really 😄

Accept the suck

[pearl ledge]

ive not played since they. ruined the game with the armor rework. probly best to just stay away. Thanks

[turbid plaza]

Now they redid artillery and broke the game once again

[grizzled kiln]

Tbf, it was ruined way before that 😄 But what are we to do lol

[pearl ledge]

True. That was just the final nail in the coffin.

[grizzled kiln]

remove arty and remove SPAs. Give us mortar squads. Ez fix.But no

[sturdy quarry]

adding mortars would make the graphics turn 16bit pixels

[ornate python]

please give us a gun game mode

[marsh dawn]

What you mean by gun game?

[umbral osprey]

I'm afraid he means that CoD game mode where you get a new gun every 30 seconds or so

[ornate python]

Start with a pistol and every kill you move up a gun. Pistol -> grease gun -> shotgun -> carbine -> bar-> mg -> bazooka-> garand -> flare gun

[cosmic pilot]

I thought it was you get a new gun every kill

[marsh dawn]

This is not fornite ☠️

[cosmic pilot]

In principle, chick fil a is not out of line

[ornate python]

Fortnite is way more optimized you’re right

[cosmic pilot]

In practice, a hll gun game mode would be boring as hell

[ornate python]

For you

Dying all the time

[cosmic pilot]

All the guns are the same

[ornate python]

I would win

[prisma fiber]

I, too, think the devs should stop focusing on the main game for some childish side project

Let the gamebreaking bugs go to that

[ornate python]

After gun game they should add k98 1 in the chamber

[cosmic pilot]

More game modes that copy what other games do is more content, which is fine.

There's no law that says that can't do it if they don't want to

[prisma fiber]

Brother these people can't code "Hello World"

[umbral osprey]

Yeah that was the main Gun Game but there were different iterations

[ornate python]

They should make it like conquest where you can capture 5th point first

[prisma fiber]

Tank flipping is a feature

[cosmic pilot]

Tank flipping would ruin my immersion

Low key most realistic part of the game is getting vehicles stuck

[ornate python]

Thank god they fixed the smoke grenade tank flipping and not the Vaseline smear

[prisma fiber]

You mean the bug that almost nobody knew about
That they brought into the light by announcing they fixed it
But they didn't actually fix it
So now a ton of people know how to do it

That bug?

I couldn't troll that well if I tried

[ornate python]

I wish I could post vids in here we got a pz4 like 100m into the sky

[prisma fiber]

You can

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447327266064306279/1448294157842907238/19b00c3678330-master_playlist.mov?ex=6941540b&is=6940028b&hm=5c1916264880bb1edce86d01725edd8a10d1964936c96e9049a7c979eed39555&

[cosmic pilot]

Why do people fixate on such inconsequential bugs like flying tanks.
I guess it's just obvious for people to point and say to themselves, "hurr, tanks aren't supposed to fly"

[past vortex]

look... you just dont understand...
its promoted to make medic more useful
you put on your winter clothes , ready your smoke grenades and go flippin

[prisma fiber]

2/10 bait

You gotta ask how to preorder HLL Vietnam if you wanna bait people

[cosmic pilot]

I feel called out

[ornate python]

Can’t on mobile I guess

[prisma fiber]

Skill issue

[ornate python]

True

[prisma fiber]

Post the video somewhere else and just copy the link, paste it here

[cosmic pilot]

Be upset about red garrisons, a real flaw in the game that hasn't been fixed for literal years

[marsh dawn]

Bro every time i join a server the host loose connection or time out.

[prisma fiber]

DDOS

[marsh dawn]

DDOS?

[prisma fiber]

Yep

[marsh dawn]

What is that

[past vortex]

naw

[prisma fiber]

It's what the devs said is at fault

[cosmic pilot]

Flying tanks are so obvious that it'll be fixed before it gets solidified as the meta causing people to complain about it's removal

[ornate python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1149244053511225455/1442527315429949562/19ab654460f8-master_playlist.mov?ex=6940c880&is=693f7700&hm=9ddd518308fe3edb69bd593a61f4523a8aef87c922f93acb3c960232367a04f2&

[prisma fiber]

It's probably the excuse I would use if I didn't want to shoulder the blame for my own poor dev work too

[ornate python]

Nice

[past vortex]

game on HDD?

[prisma fiber]

Floppy

[marsh dawn]

HDD?

Whats that

[prisma fiber]

NSFW term

H = hard

I can't continue or I'll be banned

[past vortex]

22467 disks

[prisma fiber]

Literally hotswapping on the fly to keep firing

Like reloading a tank - flip the switch, eject the empty, slam home a new one

[prisma fiber]

10/10 work

[marsh dawn]

How do i change who im speaking to. like team or squad

[ornate python]

This isn’t fortnite ☠️

I’m console pleb so it’s hold left bumper and right stuck

For you id hold the PTT key

And maybe a wheel appears

[prisma fiber]

As a squad leader hold X to talk to command chat, C to talk to squad, V to talk to proximity

[ornate python]

Oh damn

That sounds better

[prisma fiber]

Usually the case on PC

[ornate python]

We talk in the wrong channels all the time

Bc it’s the same wheel

[prisma fiber]

Well that happens here too lmao

I love when someone insults command to their squad in command chat

oops

[ornate python]

I wish we had team speak and/or text chat on the console side

[prisma fiber]

If we had all-team voice I'd uninstall so fast

[ornate python]

“This idiot dropped supplies on my OP”

[prisma fiber]

tbf that's worth being mocked to your face

"lol enjoy not having an OP"

[past vortex]

i thought you cant play

[gritty crag]

i still remember back in the old days you could TK allied tanks

[prisma fiber]

The fact that you can still blow up AT guns sometimes leads to a tank gunner being very happy about a TK he didn't know he did

[gritty crag]

yeah

[rough gazelle]

So where do I submit bug videos?

[gilded spade]

#1445732994269712505

[prisma fiber]

The void

[midnight salmon]

is hll dead yet?

maybe i should make a website

[slate canopy]

Nope

[clear sluice]

quick question, was there any play testing available for HLLV? Still going to buy it any way given that iv got 2k play hours in HLL lol

[past vortex]

development aint there yet it seems

[clear sluice]

fair, I still dont know what a gary is

[languid zephyr]

• Desync from increasing vehicle speed and messing with turret rotation has become absolutely diabolical. Have they not learned form the tank speed increase 3 years ago? Instead you said no we can fix the desync by giving each player 3 rockets. Got it.
• Arty Reload Bugs
• DAK not able to reload artillery via commander abilities on Tobruk. Although this week some poor allied team got beat up on Tobruk in HLL comp even without the Axis team having more than 50 shells, so maybe it doesn't matter
• Tanks can be flipped in the air if you toss a smoke grenade on them
• OP's disapear from the map when you place them down causing mass confusion
• friendly teammates and tanks not loading into the map screen and have invisible blueberry icons
• Horrific stuttering and clipping issues on the new map
• SPA's are useless and bad game dynamic
• removal of front armor from luchs rendering it a useless vehicle

What you have here is a development team that doesn't play this game.

[past vortex]

vibecoders basically :}

[prisma fiber]

"Hey Google, write me a hotfix to apply to Hell Let Loose"

[fringe hollow]

"be sure not to include anything the playerbase is actually asking for"

[past vortex]

you forgot:
role list now scrolling a bit after a delay so muscle memory screws your selection every time
basically an enforced delay you have to learn

crazy stuff

[rough kelp]

at has 3 rockets now?

[fringe hollow]

thought it was reverted

[past vortex]

lol naw

[prisma fiber]

I had a rare game where the SPA was not useless but this was only because the enemy team failed to address it. Their recon squad was there, clearly calling us out, but we just stayed in the tank and ignored them while firing (offensive mode) and got over 200 kills

It was funny in the last 5 minutes the recon guys clearly got annoyed/distressed to where they kept respawning and standing on the gun barrel's muzzle to block a single shot as a sacrifice lmao

[midnight salmon]

the tank changes tell you everything you need to know about how much the devs play hll

[past vortex]

its much too funny to revert

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[prisma fiber]

My favorite HLL mechanic is clicking on a button in settings only to have it recenter the scroll rather than click the actual button

[fringe hollow]

I'm so glad I was getting burned out before all this bafoonery started. Now I can easily enjoy any other game for like 20 minutes before being bored again

also glad I wasn't stupid enough to buy paid cosmetics that do nothing

[prisma fiber]

I cant even make it 20 mins into other games

Apparently this is the only game my stupid brain likes but everything is broken so it's an abusive relationship

[fringe hollow]

Sounds about right. Could play this for hours and hours but any other game is like "how does have fun again?"

[prisma fiber]

My other favorite HLL mechanic is waiting in queue for half an hour and being kicked out of said queue on a map change because you cant join during a map change and then having to sit in queue again

[worthy charm]

Does that mean you want cosmetetics to do something?

:}

[prisma fiber]

I was Mr. "Buys every cosmetic even if I won't use it" until like the last year

[fringe hollow]

Hide me better but lowering graphics to see the player outline against the background exists so it does nothing. Cosmetics have always been seen as useless and a waste of money to me in every game.

[past vortex]

like in enlisted, where russia has working body armor :}

[fringe hollow]

if you hit it at like 60 degree angle instead of the massive hole in the side

[past vortex]

like in enlisted :D

[fringe hollow]

Smartest enlisted player vs a thin steel plate

you would think it would hurt more since it slows the bullet enough to be left inside more often

[prisma fiber]

Imagine being a german with an MP-40 and a wave of steel-armored soviets rush you and all your gun does is set off a gong

BONG
BONG
BONG
BONG

[rough kelp]

im creamin cant lie

[prisma fiber]

"WAS???"

[rough kelp]

golddd?

[fringe hollow]

too busy being shelled by overwhelming artillery support

[prisma fiber]

Said the Russian as he was obliterated by Russian artillery

[fringe hollow]

if friendlies aren't safe, the enemy isn't either

exterminatus?

[prisma fiber]

Basic tank strat: If the enemy is showering you with arty it's a sign you aren't getting satcheled

[fringe hollow]

says who? I've seen satcheled tanks in every situation. Surrounded by friendlies, all alone, stuck and empty, and freshly spawned. Satcheles are everywhere

[prisma fiber]

Says me, usually the squishy AT wont survive the explosions but the iron box will

usually

I agree the riskiest place to be is among blueberries

I swear they roll out the red carpet

[fringe hollow]

Everyone wants to look at the front and no one wants to watch for just in case someone flanks

dopamine addiction at it's finest. all action no thinking

[thin lotus]

teleports behind you

the possibility of having the entire team suddenly teleporting onto your rear is dumb af gameplay, regardless of anyone's (un)willingness to cover the defensive "flanks".

"just defend better" isn't the answer to objectively poor game design

[fringe hollow]

While I agree the concept of the airhead isn't the greatest, it's not like it's totally silent. Eyes to the sky when a plane goes by. If they sneak a truck back there, sure but still.

[thin lotus]

it's not just airheads, but that is the most obvious. It's everything about red garrys

it's just dumb gameplay, and i dont blame anyone not wanting to take part in it. It's stupid, and always has been

[fringe hollow]

Sector system would need to change to make it more line an actual frontline. If you get flanked, that flank is now also enemy territory. The way it is now, I agree kinda dumb

I don't really get how dumbing down the gameplay to being "we pushed you back through just being stronger" is any fun though

sure it's realistic but one team is almost always stacked compared to the other

[cosmic pilot]

We just need an additional game mode with different garrison rules

[fringe hollow]

OPs in the red makes sense since they are OUTposts but a whole garrison should be similar to an HQ

[cosmic pilot]

Leave warfare the way it is so people don't complain

[fringe hollow]

behind friendly lines and a main base of operations

I have a feeling most suggested gamemodes would just be run n gun but big map. Destroy the objective sounds decent but I wouldn't trust T17 with anything new now anyway

[devout isle]

whats goody my gang

[fringe hollow]

pizza, popcorn, and another P word i can't say here

[prisma fiber]

Nothing personal, kid

[past vortex]

whats wrong with spawning on a red garry as medic in winter clothes to flip some tanks?
let people enjoy things

[thin lotus]

obese, even

[polar prism]

Loving the SPG! Haven’t had this much fun in HLL in forever 😁

[prisma fiber]

inb4 capture-the-flag

jfc this server is over-moderated

[fringe hollow]

literally what we have. structured CTF

wait nvm I'm slow

mixed up gamemodes

[prisma fiber]

L I T E R A L L Y
I
T
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R
A
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L
Y

[echo karma]

I wanted to see the trailer airheads where you spawn without a weapon, have to pick one up etc. Looked cool.

Bf5 has paratroopers

[fringe hollow]

I imagined the airhead being the supplement for paratroopers but it just doesn't work well rn

[hard whale]

Road map?

[echo karma]

Not till February March

[prisma fiber]

This was clearly the result of playing Squad too much

[fringe hollow]

they still need the end of this year to try fixing

[prisma fiber]

Sorry, broke something else

Guns don't reload anymore

[echo karma]

They teased it in the worst trailer ever shown at pc games. But it did look cool beyond all the bs

[echo karma]

Same with winter warfare. Looked cooler when teased

[prisma fiber]

I wonder what will happen to everyone in the helicopter when the pilot loses connection to host

[novel geyser]

damn did we lose some of the channels like #hll-videos and #hll-artwork

nvm

they are hidden 🕵️

[echo karma]

Idk. Looking at the helicopter some more it looks like it won't be controlled

It's soooooo slow. A blind man could hit that with an rpg

[prisma fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382781249319473265/1448053363878002801/ABS2GSl0tG57o98aFCXVbO__lDpxkD5ANI-e9URdecPCDQqR7F-oPo1gteCgFVeQcTRS5Z7j5E9dlNpEKS4JJDI5U8u6kvL3h2hWjly_B7dcjGR0E7zLSaV0KUJ1hMnrBEqU9hKSa6twEqVpZ08FX8KCsDOc4pBhxm9E8b_0vdSkJJ9C1_9_s1024-rj.png?ex=69411c89&is=693fcb09&hm=9b7429ec3543523cdf8a131a020ac7d064530082ba5e66f730b42cd5f216eaa4&

This man?

[candid mason]

I would very much like to know what Graphic cards players are using in their PC's

[worthy charm]

6090

at worst

[grizzled kiln]

5090 or bust ❤️ jk, game will run like poo anyway,so save the $$$.

[past vortex]

RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell

[river rover]

Nvidia Founders Editions 4090 and 3090 in my (2) best PC. 60+ stable. It's super fluctuating. 60-1500 fps.

[hard whale]

On console is it only Skirmish?

[past vortex]

stable 60 fps

[hard whale]

Why

[past vortex]

no

[hard whale]

Well, they broke something.\n Because the first game was only skirmish. And it's only now in the Warfare and offensive

[past vortex]

dont use quickplay

[prisma fiber]

Confused console player

You gotta buy the battle pass

[thin scarab]

There is a battlepas?

https://tenor.com/view/son-goku-fortnite-dance-battle-gif-26487969

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[rare finch]

When is Vietnam released?

[river rover]

2026™

[past vortex]

q5

[devout isle]

im tryna play hll and every single infantry squad is locked and or full 😭

IM JUST TRYNA BE A MACHINE GUNNER AND EVERYONE IS TAKING THE ROLE BEFORE I CAN 😭

[half lotus]

When cietnam come out im wanna be the gunner helicopter or machine gunner cause rambo and fil metal jacket that one scene

[worthy charm]

You mean q6

Or maybe q7

[hard whale]

I didn't

[livid verge]

Oh damn GUYS!!!!!

Listen closely!

I saw smth in the trailer!!

Something we've all requested!

Something we've all been waiting for

[past vortex]

fog and blur, yes, i saw it too

[livid verge]

You can see your own body in HLLV

AND you can dragg teammates as medic

AND you can shoot while bein knocked out

[worthy charm]

Lets not make stuff up please

[livid verge]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-bro-celebrating-best-friends-squid-game-2-my-guy-gif-8389215730122450876

[worthy charm]

shoo

[livid verge]

it's in the HLLV trailer :3

[idle pollen]

Seeing legs would be next level. My immersion

[worthy charm]

That you can drag allies was already known, making up that you can drag up enemys is unecessary

[oak current]

I heard you can also cook food ingame and do farming

[worthy charm]

True there were rice fields

[idle pollen]

And mine cobblestone

[past vortex]

fishing minigame too probably

[idle pollen]

That’s paid dlc

[oak current]

or a fishy minigame

[thin lotus]

teleports behind your rice field

riveting stuff

[livid verge]

oh my im so so sorry senpai! I... I typed without thinking >n< Im sorrryyyyyy!

n< im so stupidddd...............

We get a walking animation?!

Finally we dont have stabeliser shoes anymore

[prisma fiber]

Brother they broke free from France in 1945

[nova pivot]

I'm the only one who speaks to William like that

[livid verge]

https://tenor.com/view/taiga-toradora-gif-18130247

[livid verge]

I also want to >:T

[nova pivot]

I understand that, but you aren't engaged with him

[livid verge]

engaged? I... I dont have to be to talk to him like that

[nova pivot]

Don't interfere in our relationship please

[livid verge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-taiga-aisaka-toradora-sad-girl-sad-girl-emotional-alone-gif-6119726276555151088

okay

[nova pivot]

Thank you for understanding.

[livid verge]

I'll stop then

[nova pivot]

🫂

[livid verge]

T~T

Then I have to call him sir Willes sir instead >:T

[nova pivot]

You have to call him: Mr. William Wilhelm Willy

That is his full name

[livid verge]

Michael! Dont leave me here Michael!

Cough Cough Help... Me

[nova pivot]

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[livid verge]

https://tenor.com/view/william-afton-burning-in-hell-gif-22798912

Sir Commander William Wilhelm Willy Sir

that a good name?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-lying-real-housewives-of-atlanta-you-lie-liar-stop-lying-gif-21244433

Ok thats it

@cosmic pilot Welcome Floppa on the naughty list

[spiral current]

Afer a frustrating game where I couldn't figure out why I wasn't killing an enemy recon tank; I just did a test with the recon tanks (which btw is a pain to do since they've replaced recon tanks with spa in practice range, so you find a 0 pop server and drive across to the other HQ to make a kill).

It seems some of the difference they've made is:

• Recon turret now has superlight armour
• Recon Hull now has light armour.
  (Previously entire body was superlight)

This means you cannot damage a recon tank hull with HE shot any more.

It seems now your options to kill a tank with a light gun (recon / light tank guns) are:

• two AP shots to body
• three HE shots to turret

[past vortex]

recon op

[river swan]

Who was the one that blocked everyone from commenting on "AT infantry and Armor" thread in the U19-Feedback

[worthy charm]

Which thread was that?

or rather where was that?

[river swan]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1445792368933474355

Someone locked it from further discussion

[worthy charm]

Ahhh the post where people got nice

and reacted each other with clown emojis

I wonder why that got closed

[river swan]

I mean AT mains be emotional

[worthy charm]

It wouldnt go anywhere ever, so whilst I can understand your frustration, its better like this.

[finite berry]

Streisand effect about to hit lol

[worthy charm]

Huh? Im not even trying to hide it... 😅

[worthy charm]

Just to add, I rather keep it closed than start handing out warnings.

[river swan]

Also the comment you made before the post got locked; No offense, but why would you list such an insignificant stat instead of an actually important one? The patch notes themselves state that the Jumbo 75 for instance got a bigger radius increase but doesn't mention specifics, but you DO mention how big the radius is when the tank explodes? Knowing how big the radius is would make it a lot easier to explain why you're asking for one now as many commanders still balk at the idea of it.

[worthy charm]

Brother noooo clue...

These are question waaaaaay above my paygrade

[river swan]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-guy-youcannotunderstand-gif-21281338

[worthy charm]

I will add you to the list of people I disappointed.

[ancient harness]

The 75's explosion radius is the same as the 76

[river swan]

Its not

[nova pivot]

I'm not in that one, right?

[worthy charm]

Yes you are

You should know why

[nova pivot]

But but but

😭

[slate canopy]

It's okay, we disappoint everyone 🙃 But you never let me down 🥺

[ancient harness]

It's 1200 cm. They published every tank stat for every tank back in the U18 changelog. I also remember them saying that the 75 got a buff in explosion radius, but it's literally non-existent, or they made a mistake with those tables, or I made a mistake understanding the numbers and what the represent

[nova pivot]

I love your Christmas themed name

[ionic lichen]

Anyone dealing with audio issues today (pc)? Had some squad mates mentioning it earlier and now I'm dealing with maxed out audio no matter what. Very odd.

[prisma fiber]

This is not a big deal

[river swan]

Uh, here ill take the words from @worthy charm HerrWilles

— Yesterday at 6:11 AM
The Explosion radius - counter to what most would think - does not refer to the HE radius. It actually the radius where people get damaged/die outside of the tank when it dies.

[nova pivot]

I wouldn't trust him

He banned me for no reason once

[prisma fiber]

This server is extremely over moderated

2 hour slow mode
No outside emojis

Kindergarten

[nova pivot]

Just because he was feeling funny

[worthy charm]

I wouldnt trust myself either, but I got told that by a higher power

[ancient harness]

Yeah, I imagined it could refer to something like that. But I thought it'd be unlikely as nobody would even care about that

[slate canopy]

We didn't set it. It's been that way for a long time 🤷‍♀️

[past vortex]

who says the devs didnt mix it up ?

[worthy charm]

The reason was there, but the ban was by accident.

[prisma fiber]

Im aware that admin > mod

Not calling out anyone individually, just a bad policy or 5

[nova pivot]

Reason: writing Muller correctly

[worthy charm]

*incorrectly

A grave sin

[nova pivot]

Correctly

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[slate canopy]

I'm sure it's to reduce spamming more than anything.

[nova pivot]

Torken

[past vortex]

im pretty sure the mods change the slowmode timer all the time tho

[finite berry]

Törken

[nova pivot]

Yes they do

[prisma fiber]

The ban on external emojis is weird

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/based-gigachad-chad-gif-23901955

[slate canopy]

We can if it's getting too wild, but doesn't happen often.

[prisma fiber]

Ive never seen a server do that before

[ancient harness]

Anyone could just drop a Swastika here then

[worthy charm]

Many have complained... but it probably better like this, look at the feedback channels, those get offtopic way faster because there is no slowmode.

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pov-you-giga-chad-chad-meme-gif-25615024

[worthy charm]

It makes sense even though its not a great solution

[prisma fiber]

They have a kick/ban button

[prisma fiber]

Yeah kindergarten

[river swan]

also they even stated in the U18 changelog right underneath US tank Changes stats Furthermore, the Jumbo 75 Sherman has had a considerable increase in HE (High Explosive) splash radius. This coupled with the decrease in reload speed, reduction in fuel cost and lower armor penetration than other heavy tanks, makes it more of a focus towards an anti-infantry tank.

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-agree-chad-gif-25102133

[prisma fiber]

The ban on images here is the biggest joke since it can be easily bypassed

[worthy charm]

You know until April we didnt even had Gifs here

So I wouldnt say that to loud or it will change

[finite berry]

Hate to break it to you, but the sensible people won't do that, and the id iots will find ways to still do it even with external emojis banned. Also, that's why moderators exist

[prisma fiber]

Cool

This is the poorest moderated server I've been in

Well done

[nova pivot]

The Dark Ages

[prisma fiber]

Tracks though

English devs, english values about banning the most random stuff

[slate canopy]

You're free to leave if you don't like it. 🙂

[prisma fiber]

Im also not breaking rules talking about it

Weird

[ancient harness]

Yeah, I also read that, I've mentioned it before. But they added a completely useless stat to the tables and expected people to understand it correctly. I don't care about the explosion radius of a tank when it gets destroyed

[nova pivot]

I do

Not really

[worthy charm]

None of the mods are british tho

[prisma fiber]

Closest step to the right direction

[river swan]

ohhh, right right. i 100% agree with yah.

[ancient harness]

You respawn in ≈ 30 seconds, not like it matters if you die when the tank explodes. What matters is that it exploded, so that stat is mostly useless there

[prisma fiber]

Oi postin a pepe emoji be a right crime innit

[river swan]

Right

[worthy charm]

We dont judge pep

[prisma fiber]

Can an SPA destroy an airhead? I've yet to have a commander allow me to try it live

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/tine-gif-16246293317749870805

[worthy charm]

Especially not after I watched the Spacefrogs video about him
(that was years ago)

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-laugh-smile-gif-8992281

[worthy charm]

Im going to zapp you

:}

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584475715836051456/1434649080516317397/caption.gif

[nova pivot]

You'll have to zap me too

[worthy charm]

Would have expected a mod abuse gif

[nova pivot]

Leave Elise alone

[finite berry]

I have one, but that one would get me banned for sure lmao

[worthy charm]

Done

[nova pivot]

@finite berry I got you bro

[finite berry]

🤝

[prisma fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382781249319473265/1450268780042260510/leave-britney-alone-chris-crockerc.png?ex=6941eb8d&is=69409a0d&hm=d390d5e4555383e3a944d6c01047320423834263020197e64fcbb99f296a2b09&

panzer 3 most common tank in german military
doesn't exist in HLL
luchs only ever had 100 units that basically never saw combat
default light for german team

What did they mean by this?

[nova pivot]

Blackmater master move

[worthy charm]

panzer 3 most common tank in german military
It does tho lmao

[nova pivot]

Same for the shotgun and the fg-42

[worthy charm]

BM planned way depper

[prisma fiber]

Right the SPA version lmao

Not even SPA

[worthy charm]

Im sure you all saw the kickstarter

and the 2021/22 roadmap

[nova pivot]

Send it please

[worthy charm]

Truely hilarious, even worse than the 2023 cut back one

[river swan]

snap crackle pop, the Kickstarter even mentioned more armor varients including a tiger 2

[prisma fiber]

tiger 2 my nuts

please just implement the vast field of armor that actually saw combat throughout most the war

The germans have so many czech tanks to choose from that they used a ton of

ww2 did not start in 1944

[river swan]

well if want vehicles that were mostly seen in the war

the 76 jumbo would have to be removed as well

[prisma fiber]

Deal'

[river swan]

only like 250-300?

[prisma fiber]

do it

🤝

[river swan]

but then we have to remove the tiger from playing against US cause they never came across tigers

[prisma fiber]

Deal

🤝

[river swan]

idk, the whole historical accuracy is meh

[prisma fiber]

Remove STG44

[river swan]

all the Mg42s would be removed from stalingrad

[prisma fiber]

Deal

🤝

[south wyvern]

Actually there are plenty of examples of tigers facing the US just not as much as British and Soviets

Example, is Sicily and the battle of the buldge

[prisma fiber]

Well Sicily isnt in HLL

[river swan]

im talking about the battles the game has

[worthy charm]

Shhhhh 🤫 or you will wake up celdis with his Subfaction suggestion.

[south wyvern]

Ah

[river swan]

none of these places we are fighting had tigers presented

[errant moss]

https://tenor.com/view/nerds-mad-football-rage-gif-16650450

[south wyvern]

What are the maps again?
-# sorry still getting familiar with the maps

[worthy charm]

Mostly late war with very few exceptions.

[south wyvern]

If it’s late war then most likely there were a few tigers in each engagement most likely 2 or three there were also very rare sightings of king tigers

Especially after Normandy and the push into Germany

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

Tiger 2 mentioned

[prisma fiber]

Where Panzer 3

[south wyvern]

Panzer 3 at the time were faced out by the panzer 4 variants or turned into pz4

By the end of 1943

[prisma fiber]

Hundreds made in 1943 alone

Only 100 Luchs were made for the entire war

Delete Luchs, implement Panzer 3

[south wyvern]

Also pz2 were super common in the early years of the war

[worthy charm]

P3 isnt a light tank tho

[prisma fiber]

The Luchs is not just a pz2

[south wyvern]

I know that

[prisma fiber]

if compared to the stuart it is

[worthy charm]

personally I would love the 38t

but thats not accureate either

[south wyvern]

Yes that would be amazing

[worthy charm]

at least not for later war

[nova pivot]

Early Normandy

[nova pivot]

Me too

The jadgpanzer38T

My beloved 😍

[worthy charm]

Ngl a light with a medium cannon but no turret would be so fun

[gloomy quartz]

ty for having me wait out my false mute

[worthy charm]

not balanced but very fun

[nova pivot]

It's balanced

[prisma fiber]

Delete Luchs, replace with pz3 as a reskinned stuart

[nova pivot]

A medium gun isn't that good, and the mobility advantage would be reduced because you have to rotate the whole thing

[south wyvern]

I mean it would be correct as there production stopped in 1943 with 1,440 units and the chassis were still produce for hetzers and marders

[worthy charm]

35kmh, 2 hits in the side or back kill a heavy, need 2 hits to kill?

I dont think so

But its very fun

[nova pivot]

That is what I'm talking about the hetzer

[worthy charm]

:}

[worthy charm]

Herzer? = ❤️

[nova pivot]

You

❤️

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[south wyvern]

There were 2,800 hetzers produce so there were high chances of Allie’s running into them

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

I would love to see the jagdpanther, but that would probably be too much

[past vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-emdeb-fail-failure-cat-gif-16703817715131368982

[prisma fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[worthy charm]

One shotting a heavy you say?

[nova pivot]

Yes

[prisma fiber]

we need more focus on smaller tanks,. not larger

[south wyvern]

Yea

[nova pivot]

I like anything that is German and only looks in one direction

[prisma fiber]

despite hollywood, the war did not begin in late 1944

[worthy charm]

Bigger tanks you say?

[nova pivot]

Yes

[south wyvern]

Oh gosh

[nova pivot]

That was technically in game

In hurtgen

[prisma fiber]

drugs are bad

[wintry thistle]

Kursk?

[nova pivot]

It was

[worthy charm]

It was

[worthy charm]

jinx

[prisma fiber]

Autralians high af

[south wyvern]

Yes tigers and panthers were present in Kursk

[nova pivot]

And the Ferdinand too

When Ferdinand

[south wyvern]

Yep and of course a ton of pz4 variants 🤣

[prisma fiber]

Super Heavy, 1000 fuel

[worthy charm]

When Nashorn 🦏

[nova pivot]

Breaks down each 100 meters and the crew needs to get out to repair it

[wintry thistle]

And Panzer IIIs

Panzer IIIs were still in decent numbers during Kursk

[prisma fiber]

Devs making the SPAs restricted by distance from HQ is the most 🤡 thing ive ever seen

[past vortex]

those are spas tho

[nova pivot]

The later versions look really cool with the spaced armour

[prisma fiber]

No T17 employee has ever installed HLL

[south wyvern]

Not as many compared to pz4 as pz3 we’re slowly being converted to the 4 variants or there chassis being used elsewhere

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/kamala-kamala-debate-fact-gif-18735721

[prisma fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[past vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fall-epic-embed-fail-fail-funny-gif-21341768

[nova pivot]

Why my gifs not gifing today?

[worthy charm]

I have played HLL with Ben sooooooooooo thats not correct sorry

[nova pivot]

😭

[past vortex]

ask willes

[worthy charm]

You wanted to be zapped?

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-big-floppa-lil-floppa-flop-floppa-flop-gif-22883844

[prisma fiber]

Community whipping boy never counts

[nova pivot]

Jajaja

No way

[prisma fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[nova pivot]

For how long? William

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/kuwtk-kris-jenner-kardashian-oh-well-shrug-gif-16586365

[wintry thistle]

It’s a very close number 33% of tanks in summer 43 were Panzer III compared to 36% of panzer IVs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=waW1-UeGawQ&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm

[wintry thistle]

Great video

[worthy charm]

Until someone takes it away

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-floppa-sad-it's-over-rain-gif-2614335113295818251

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-floppa-sad-it's-over-rain-gif-2614335113295818251

[nova pivot]

Yes

[south wyvern]

Actually throught the whole battle of Kursk there were roughly 700-1000 pz4 and 600-900 pz3

[nova pivot]

Thanks

[prisma fiber]

Nope, you get Luchs

They were never there, but T17 is le tired

[wintry thistle]

Those numbers are very close

[south wyvern]

Though the pz3 were way outclassed by Soviets tanks at that point and were quickly wiped compared to other tanks

[past vortex]

crazy they had so many spa

[wintry thistle]

The only real negative was its gun. It still had way superior soft factors , like a three man turret
From my knowledge most were J1 with the 50mm so most success came from side shots

[prisma fiber]

Yet the T70 is there

[prisma fiber]

Ah yeah, the heavy tank KV-2 that like 150 of which were made and stopped in 1942

[wintry thistle]

The T-34 pre 85 is just a really terrible tank on its own, which is why the German mediums could compete with them

[past vortex]

im talking about all those pz3

[south wyvern]

Not only its gun but it’s armor was outclassed by Russian T34s who punched straight through compared to the pz4 who had a bit more armor

[prisma fiber]

✅ Never played HLL
✅ Dont know anything about WW2

T17 checklist

[past vortex]

not all pz4 had more armor than all pz3 variants

[wintry thistle]

By this time I believe most IIIs had spaced armor equal to the non spaced armor on the IV

While spaced armor not being as effective as pure 80mm it still equaled it

[south wyvern]

Actually it’s armor was approved after 1942, but by then the pz4 was the go to as it now had spaced armor and 80mm frontal, also the ability to put heavier weapons

And the pz3 topped at 50mm frontal in Kursk

Both had spaced armor on the side btw

[wintry thistle]

The Panzer IV was obviously better I’m just saying that until 1944 (when they literally stopped making them) the III was still in good quantity

[south wyvern]

5,774 pz3 built exclude stug 3
And 8,500 pz4 produced and pz3 producing stopped in 43

[wintry thistle]

Panzer III production stopped in 1944

[south wyvern]

Finally variation was the pz3 N and that stopped production in 1943

Though the chassis were used for stug3 till the end of the war

[south wyvern]

Besides the stug3 the pz3 max frontal armor was 50mm compared to the pz4 80mm frontal

[past vortex]

there were pz4f in kursk

would be interesting to have numbers

[south wyvern]

Let me get them real quick

[south wyvern]

There were some of the F model but not many I believe roughly 100 as the G models and other like H models made up the rest roughly 702 pz4 present at Kursk and 668 pz3 but the pz3 were fully obliterated also 146 tigers, 90 Ferdinand’s, and 200 panthers (some are very rough estimates)

[past vortex]

imagine being send in in an F model

[south wyvern]

Yea but still a bit better chance then the outdated pz3

[carmine cipher]

How do you report cheaters on the official servers?

[slate canopy]

https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en/articles/316972-reporting-a-player-on-hell-let-loose

[carmine cipher]

I couldn't see the player on the leaderboard, they were on neither team

[slate canopy]

We always recommend playing on community servers, less likely to see them. (I always have played community, seen 2 for-sure cheaters in my just-short of 1000 hours.)

[wild rampart]

What is up with the VOIP tonight? It keeps disconnecting, and failing to reconnect all evening. I haven't had this issue for years.

[deft shale]

Would be very curious to see the numbers from this update, but feel it’s pretty obvious (atleast on console) the game is dying. All they keep saying is they are working on yet another hot fix but haven’t mentioned anything about undoing all the piss poor changes

[gray lagoon]

Steam player count: https://steamcharts.com/app/686810#All
Shows a slight increase since the update.

[deft shale]

Isnt stream just PC?

[gray lagoon]

Yes and I don't think it counts gamepass players either

[deft shale]

Yeah sorry I meant console numbers. PC is a completely different universe than console. TBH some of the changes are probably good for pc players, but giving commanders in console more power was not the move. It’s quickly killing console.

[deft shale]

And wow. Look at how far down the numbers are from the past year.

The people are telling them what they think of the changes….. they just don’t listen.

[gray lagoon]

The spike near 2025 was a coincidence, maybe a winter sale or free weekend

Before then and now are about the same

[deft shale]

I mean before then. Long period of time back in 22 and 23 it averaged 5-7k

HUGE drop right when they changed the combat scores. Interesting lol

It’s almost as if that change and buffing the value of taking out spawns changed how people played entirely which took it from a game about killing / fighting to spawn hunting

[slate canopy]

the early 2025 was free week on Epic.

[past vortex]

*free to keep

yk what is also fun?
getting rocket-stream-sniped by espt :}

[stone juniper]

are the servers down?

[past vortex]

probably not

[stone juniper]

im getting an error trying to connect to online services on HLL for about 10 min. i restarted my game and it keeps trying itself

[past vortex]

works for me

[stone juniper]

ill restart my pc thanks. my internet seems fine. weird

[past veldt]

@midnight salmon is HLL dead yet?

Are 116 dead yet?!

[past veldt]

Spawn hunting has always been the best way to win 🙂

[cosmic pilot]

Why should that make any difference

[midnight salmon]

i think it is

[midnight salmon]

majority of good players no longer care about hll so probably but i'm sure we'll stick it to helios on last time after the nice messages in chat

[past veldt]

The end of Div1 🙃 WTH brains are cooked too

[midnight salmon]

if espt is cooked finally omen can win something

[past veldt]

We can rustle enough together to stop that

[midnight salmon]

wth-espt-gh kinda dig it, just win everything

against bot lobby kek

then finally the rubber banding doesnt even matter no more

[past veldt]

WESGH Vs PBS

[midnight salmon]

cuz no one on the other side ...

or against console clans lmao

[past veldt]

Don't need to spawn tanks so no server issues

[midnight salmon]

imagine hca without tanks

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

[midnight salmon]

(clearly ptsd from helios tank diff)

[past veldt]

HLL without tank brains... We can all dream

[midnight salmon]

the new meta is going to be so bad man, arty SPA BS and 5 mediums shelling meatgrind

and hllv is going to suffer the same poor decisions that they did in hll

looking forward to getting my op fragged from a random he shell every 10 s

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179085355681595474/1406844456912556052/attachment.gif

[past veldt]

WTH proprietary GIFs

[worthy charm]

Uff

Life is truely unfair

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1303297725059567709/1305283411518423142/togif.gif

[worthy charm]

Setting only on low? Where is the filter and the crosshair?

That cant be from a como match

[past veldt]

Truly it is

Just taken from the guy I made drive a supply truck all game so I didn't have to

[worn elbow]

why does it take so much to rank up a single rank bro

[worthy charm]

Youre building nodes?

[worn elbow]

No bro im on the frontline as rifleman

[worthy charm]

I got 33k XP once in a seeding match

[worn elbow]

and i get 360 score with 2 points captured and more than 10 kills

I got 17k xp but only 350 for rifleman bro

[worthy charm]

If you build nodes, the class you play ad gets the XP for it.

[worn elbow]

so I go enginner builds nodes and then go to the class I want?

[worthy charm]

Yes

They five points over time, as long nobody destroys them that is.

[worn elbow]

bro no one placing supplies

[worthy charm]

Get a supply trucka the start of the match

[worldly mountain]

suppyl truck...

[worthy charm]

Drop the supplies in the second Sektor and build the nodes in the first one.

[worn elbow]

yep well I joined a different match they were all russian and didnt gaf about me building nodes

nah bro imma take a 2 week long break

[worthy charm]

Dont join a russian server then 🤷‍♂️

[past veldt]

I think this guy might be a lost soul

[worldly mountain]

I guess he plays on official servers

[main harness]

Honestly the nodes system is kinda stupid. Same as the arty system. And rocket spam.

[main lance]

Recon in general as a whole

Pub games would be 10x better without recon rats

[main harness]

What did I tell you about talking in public, espt drone

[gloomy quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/murica-walmart-fat-buggy-obese-gif-5701786

[main lance]

Listen here bean man, you cannot unleash the drivel of tanker thoughts on the general public. You all will be institutionalized, I am protecting you

[main harness]

Meanwhile we got people saying inf need 3 rockets because they can't aim and the server has crap connection

[gloomy quartz]

inf need 1 billion rocket

[worthy charm]

Medic satchel when?

[main lance]

Daan is correct and based

[novel geyser]

stachel totally needs a buff it doesnt nuke the entire map

[worthy charm]

We need to be able to yeet them like nades.

Thats clearly the way

[novel geyser]

actually kinda yeah but only if they get nerfed against tanks

also I have to thank you Willes for opening my eyes about beans on toast

they're actually a lot yummier than I had previously believed 😋

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-knight-father-bread-boys-crusader-gif-18266778

[novel geyser]

anyways

horses when

[hazy owl]

When it comes to public games combined arty kills 🔵 -> 🔴 went down since U19.
I know it's too soon to judge as people keep trying it out and messing around with it but it's a significant drop.
*edit: kills per match may suggest fewer longer matches

Data pulled from 450 servers.
🔵 - Static arty kills
🟢 - SPA kills
🔴 - Static + SPA kills
🟡 - Unknown ( Artillery strike is being registered as Unknown weapon )
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/685733629447372846/1450467540185907231/image.png?ex=6942a4a9&is=69415329&hm=4bddf04f61b10716ea91d81e27222dc2f0d601a944d70f9bad931ba98fd6d612&

[surreal leaf]

Hello hell let loose players

[novel geyser]

lets try and get it all to 0 💪

[nova pivot]

👋

[nova pivot]

Fr fvck arty

[glacial haven]

Do you think they are replacing arty with mortars in Vietnam or are they going to expand on arty and spas in the new game

[worthy charm]

Imagine this without SA

Game would be perfect

[oak current]

South America?

[fringe hollow]

I wonder what kind of hollow shell of a game we would have if it was only infantry and tanks fighting over capture points

Remove all the "extra" things so there isn't any difference except we shot better

[oak current]

Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory

[worthy charm]

Süd Afrika

[oak current]

event hough the "tanks" part is vey generously said for that example 😄

[fringe hollow]

So except squad, what other games are like this where there is more indepth roles than "man with gun" and "box that goes boom" that every vet comp player seems to want

[fringe hollow]

battlefield also comes to mind but that's more arcade i guess

[oak current]

and you get planes in that one...I think

else we could also plonk Enlisted on the pile

or Easy Red 2

[fringe hollow]

planes are cancer and same with helis. One dude could wipe a team with ease and no one would work together to kill the dude but everyone moans about him

[oak current]

actually Easy Red 2 has callin artillery, nevermind

[fringe hollow]

oh yes more arty please. Don't totally remove the KEY feature of warfare

massive anti infantry guns

Why not play comp overwatch? You have people with guns and tanks in that game too

[finite berry]

Unless you actually have teamwork, planes usually just get used to strafe the ground until the player rams his plane into the ground

[fringe hollow]

Average pilot. I've run into too many nolifes who live in the sky in little birds and OP planes in many different games. I guess if it's the best thing ever, why do anything else?

[oak current]

when I played Enlisted, it was always fun to have some flak set up, to take down planes

now HLL on the other hand, with its low sky box, would mean that planes just circle low near the ground

[fringe hollow]

I'm always the only dude on plane duty in that game. I also played it on launch and then replayed it recently and the way they made it BR related like WT made me gag

[oak current]

BR related like WT?

WT = War Thunder?

[fringe hollow]

everything is in a tech tree and you slowly unlock it while also almost always being uptiered

yes, warthunder

[oak current]

aaah ok

[fringe hollow]

never once had a balanced match or even a downtier. I would have rank 2 guns and a rank 1 tank and face rank 3 semi autos, full autos, and a KV2 in my PZ2. just an example but it's annoying af

This game is much better because every weapon faces every weapon and there isn't some long winded, 4 years needed tech tree to unlock

plus no AI soldiers making it a 4v4 with bots filling the immersion places

[cosmic pilot]

Erm, wtf this is the hll chat not the "this game is not hll chat"

Mods be slackin

Who moderates the moderators? 😤

[sleek shore]

does anyone wants to play

[prisma fiber]

Nah

[worthy charm]

||Next to no one||

[gentle lintel]

i'm literally right here

[cosmic pilot]

Who are you?

[umbral osprey]

I do think recon squads need to be nerfed somehow so they have to be more careful. They don't get contested enough back there. Not sure what can be done. Maybe if both members of the squad are dead at the same time the outpost gets destroyed. Or they can only spawn in red x amount of times until they have to place it in blue to reset the counter. It's fine that their outpost doesn't get destroyed when territory switches but there has to be some cost to that.

[prisma fiber]

Recon is fine

[worthy charm]

You know what recon need?

If you said: ||a Satchel|| youre correct

[worthy charm]

He is the guy you can ask all about the new Devinity game

[midnight salmon]

that's pretty cool! is unknown death tank or what is it?

i'm dumb its in the message

it makes sense that arty kills are lower now, because commander usually doesnt refill arty in public

it would be interesting to see how tank kills are doing tbh. at least for helios tanks were top fraggers which is a big kek but thats another story

[worthy charm]

• SPAs are really week.

• they nerfed the arty strike again

[umbral osprey]

I'm not completely opposed actually lol. Could be fine if it take a long time to place it or something

[midnight salmon]

i mean check the graph, its quite literally offsetting lack of arty kills

[worthy charm]

Sure, they are really weak regardless of that.

When I tried them in a pub game it took like 5 minutes until a recon found and killed us.

But less arty is still an improvement

I guess...

[grizzled kiln]

All loadouts should have unlimited satchels and rockets !

because why not at this point ?? Might as well

[worthy charm]

Both?!?!
Sounds like perfekt balancing

Someone tell the devs

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[midnight salmon]

tanks should have +500% splash damage on HEs and heavies should need 10 APs to kill recon and 20 APs to kill medium

[umbral osprey]

The game did get better with people having 3 rockets sooo

[midnight salmon]

medium tanks should tank 30 rockets

recon should have same armor as medium

heck just make them invincible

[grizzled kiln]

So unlimited would be infinetely better

[midnight salmon]

can only die to precision strike

1 precision strike per game

50cm, radius

[grizzled kiln]

nah, all tanks should die to one rocket. No matter where it hits

[midnight salmon]

also increase tank speed by 200%

[umbral osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/comicpop-thatchecksout-gif-12764480615373651846

[grizzled kiln]

If by increase you mean decrease, then yes. And buff inf speed by 500%

[midnight salmon]

no i mean increase. also increase number of tanks on map to 20

just make hll tank only actually. new world of tanks

[grizzled kiln]

Nah only one tank per map

[midnight salmon]

no remove inf from hll

[grizzled kiln]

Devs already sh*t all over tanks, so might as well go all in 🙂

[midnight salmon]

then i can finally uninstall this game

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-im-in-crying-face-gif-15341255

[midnight salmon]

ma boy

or better idea, make a hotfix but dont do it before next year (holidays etc) and then the hotfix actually just makes the game worse

[grizzled kiln]

Push and update that breaks a lot of stuff and then go on vacay ❤️ this is the way

[midnight salmon]

hotfix for hotfix for hotfix actually lets rebalance tanks and add some crashes

[past vortex]

dont forget making the aweful ui qol even worse

[runic gorge]

why does this game run so bad??

[prisma fiber]

Didn't learn to walk first

[vast hearth]

Hi everyone, im new here and want to play some with u, with who and where i can play members? Im 86 lvl

[main harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1307703460006985790/1450521756229046413/attachment.gif

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-simpsons-point-and-laugh-laugh-at-hahaha-gif-18352565

[harsh egret]

Man is really pulling up random stats like it means something. I'd be flattered he cared so much about me.

[vast hearth]

Hello ? Guys i wanna play with someone,Im 86 lvl

[midnight salmon]

go w4nk to it and lose 0-5 next game

then you'll still be div 2 🙂

[finite berry]

hahaha

[worthy charm]

As soon as youre a mod here thats really important

Before they just called me a filthy casual and that was the end of it

[harsh egret]

Yeah, this isn't a great place to find people doing more than talking. Just go play, talk with your mic, and add people you meet and click with.

[harsh egret]

Yeah I'm sure I can cherrypick anyone's stats and find the games their team was brutalized. I'm not sure what that proves but maybe I'm just slow.

We have all had a bad time dying over and over in rough matches so

[midnight salmon]

nah its just helios, they're happy they finally won against a div1 team with b team

[worthy charm]

Maybe we are both slow 😆

[midnight salmon]

and scream nasi stuff in chat etc cuz they so good

[harsh egret]

I miss when this game was specifically not about stats.

Daily comment to remove the death screen btw

[finite berry]

Please cherrypick my stats

[prisma fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[finite berry]

Stat wa nking is just cringe in general

[harsh egret]

Like when all that mattered was a W or L and whether you helped your team get the dub. Before server stats could be collected and the CoD and BF minded kids started having their D measuring contests about it.

Maybe it is different on PC but on console, there was a time.

[worthy charm]

Thats a long gone time tho...

[prisma fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[harsh egret]

Yeah game hasn't been good for a long time so it all checks out

[worthy charm]

That reminds me... I did read the KS HLL page a yesterday

that was wyld

Very good read

[harsh egret]

Keep posting it. Just one more time and people should start to think you are relevent 👍

[midnight salmon]

ks hll?

[worthy charm]

Kickstarter Hell let loose page

look it up

[prisma fiber]

I dont even know you

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-this-whats-happening-gif-14760168

[midnight salmon]

USD $110,000 - Deployable Mortars kek

[harsh egret]

Exactly, so keep quiet and stop replying to me with stupidity.

[prisma fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[harsh egret]

Don't know me but can't get off my nuts. Imagine.

[prisma fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculator-kid-gif-25353969

[harsh egret]

Swing on em' bbgrl

[main harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1341477787961135155/1449884107197780019/attachment.gif

[lucid tusk]

Why hurt me like this? Why remind me, and all these poor souls who weren't there?

[prisma fiber]

@harsh egret How do I join 2 pd

I am level 7 I think im ready

[harsh egret]

We don't want ya

[prisma fiber]

Come on, please? I just got an Xbox 360

[worthy charm]

In germany we would say: Geteiltes Leid ist halbes Leid.

[prisma fiber]

@harsh egret how do I shot tank

[worthy charm]

Its a shtty saying

but its true in this regard

[harsh egret]

Kid, notify me one more time I'll just block you.

[prisma fiber]

how do i shot tank

[harsh egret]

Bye felicia

[lucid tusk]

I don't speak sausage eater but that sounds like a German version of "it is what it is"

[prisma fiber]

how do i shot tank

[vast hearth]

Dont have mic in game(

[harsh egret]

Doesn't the ps5 controller have one built in? This game is all about comms and teamwork. You should have a mic.

[prisma fiber]

is that how i shot tank?

[main harness]

Tanks are so op now. Makes me wonder why greyhounds didn't roster any on Sunday. @midnight salmon can you explain?

Also explain how you died so little as meatgrind SL x

Did you rage and go elsewhere?

[midnight salmon]

you're baiting too much touch grass

helios will never be top tier clan no1 cares

[prisma fiber]

wtf is a helios

[harsh egret]

At least they have good sportsmanship amirite

[midnight salmon]

its so cringe at this point

[main harness]

I'm just asking bro x

[harsh egret]

Pretty embarrassing.

[main harness]

You have chief of operations in your profile.

[prisma fiber]

He's a HLL OG

[harsh egret]

Thanks for stopping by. Get to the end of the line if you want an autograph. Wait your turn.

[prisma fiber]

2019 veteran

[fallen ravine]

wtf is a Helios

[midnight salmon]

you play hll tank competitive lmao go figure

[main harness]

I feel like if we check his post history he may be one of the people asking them to add SS uniforms

[prisma fiber]

I dont even know what that means

[harsh egret]

Go ahead and creep me.

[prisma fiber]

how do i shot tank

[midnight salmon]

meant badger 😉

[harsh egret]

I am always accepting new fans

[main harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1307703460006985790/1449863904263143595/attachment.gif

[prisma fiber]

@main harness ask him how to shot tank

[midnight salmon]

congrats bro! you won a game!

[main harness]

Based on the stats I don't think he knows

[prisma fiber]

I bet he'd appreciate you asking

[main harness]

Thanks. Had to put down the dogs. Yfm?

[midnight salmon]

yes after that embarassing 5-0

[fallen ravine]

Only badger could make anyone like a geyhound

[prisma fiber]

Recon tanks are fine

[midnight salmon]

needed meta change to finally win 3-2 🙂

[faint current]

Recon tanks op

[celest nymph]

Ian! how's it going bro

[fallen ravine]

Slow day at the office

How are you jvck

[celest nymph]

Hoping for a slow day myself tbh

[main harness]

Recovering from getting beaten by a team with no arty

[main harness]

Adapt. Improvise. Send GH to the loser bracket.

[fallen ravine]

A team you have never beat mind you

It took you a year to beat greyhounds too lol

[prisma fiber]

What? It takes a single rocket to kill

[main harness]

Joining wth GH or espt then yapping is the most cringe of all the moves x

[fallen ravine]

That’s why I joined wth

[midnight salmon]

you're right up there lmao

[celest nymph]

@midnight salmon once helios dies do you think 116 will accept new applicants?

[main harness]

You'll be fine. It's only fun because of how mad you all are.

[prisma fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-steve-carrell-what-the-hell-is-happening-confused-gif-16458249

Am I witnessing NPCs arguing?

[midnight salmon]

no1 is actually mad it's just sad to see hs yap so much

[fallen ravine]

It’s just badgers yap between waiting for his 6th heavy spawn

[midnight salmon]

if 116 exists until then, most players were fed up after the lag omen game

[fallen ravine]

(Commander is sitting on 250 fuel)

[celest nymph]

dude the espt wth game looked so laggy

[worthy charm]

This chat got weirdly comp heavy

[fallen ravine]

It was terrible

[celest nymph]

What's up Herr, how's it going

[prisma fiber]

I feel like they are speaking something other than English

[main harness]

They played on a wth server. Bad move

[prisma fiber]

IDK wtf is happening rn

[celest nymph]

Just roll with it Milk my man. Just roll with it

[main harness]

You seem mad though. Didn't you enjoy the game? X

[midnight salmon]

tbh a bit sad that comp hll is kinda dead atm with all good players quitting

[celest nymph]

yea i agree, it is sad. but we had a good(ish) run

[prisma fiber]

Oh you're talking about competitive HLL

LMAO

[main harness]

Yeah because your team killed 4 German teams to exist. Espt killed na comp and wth had to demote their main admin because of how much poaching he did

[midnight salmon]

nah problem is not enough new good players. all other teams just disbanded after losing one game

[main harness]

Sure bud xx

[midnight salmon]

stay mad bruv maybe you'll win hca cuz no1 else playing any more

[prisma fiber]

Man whatever you're all talking about sounds like a great way to make a video game unfun

[midnight salmon]

if hca even exists in 26 kek

[fallen ravine]

You play video games to have fun?

[prisma fiber]

Crazy rite

[celest nymph]

weren't you interested in comp? what happened

[main harness]

If you think I have any aspirations to win HCA or anything then you are even more German than I thought

[prisma fiber]

I asked but it got weird

[main harness]

Yeah it was weird because you demanded a multibox spot and have never played comp

[prisma fiber]

When I found out a bunch of random rules about how the game is played were a thing I lost interest

I thought it was just private games of good players

[midnight salmon]

nah bruv the way youre trying to bait says a lot bout your mental space

[prisma fiber]

demanded

Asked

I was recommended to look into it more and it's super lame

[celest nymph]

Gotcha, carry on Milk 👍

[molten sail]

💀 comp players thinking t17 cares about their opinions

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947718918271807518/1098399447056121907/EDF2469B-6F56-493D-B798-193A9A117E00.gif

[midnight salmon]

GAS typing 👀

[main harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1307703460006985790/1425459680871714949/attachment.gif

[past veldt]

Did you?

[fallen ravine]

No

[main lance]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254476429358272625/1327336942940983296/attachment.gif?ex=6799c49b&is=6798731b&hm=f24022f27d3da4cea545f1a3815a52f614e6a13fec2474f557f5bc3bc71247c9&

[celest nymph]

Para, Para, Paradooooox, para, para, paradooooox

(oooo, ooooooooooooooooooo)

[main lance]

I will add more A’s

[midnight salmon]

maybe we can bait ditzel into writing something as well

[main harness]

I got a D you can add

[main lance]

Badger, kiss me, let’s stop fighting

[celest nymph]

@main lance we're having a heated debate about...something. Care to offer any hot takes?

[vale garnet]

we didnt but okay

[main lance]

Yes, thank you for asking @celest nymph We should ban recon from pubs, thank you for coming to my Ted talk

[celest nymph]

Excellent, I'll take straight to Orga

[main harness]

Eventually people will realise the best part of HLL is the drama, baiting and trash talking.

But you know what they say about German humour

[molten sail]

4 years late on that opinion pal

[main harness]

You guys hosted. You chose to play on a bad server. RGN servers are good. Use them.

[past veldt]

Your bait is better than this Badger

[vale garnet]

at this point i know you're disabled so this doesnt work

[main lance]

Yes rgn was an excellent server on Sunday, both teams had a lot of fun with perfect hit reg

[main harness]

Qonzer servers are all terrible lol

[worthy charm]

Someone is missing in this discussion...

@dusty bolt Get in there tiger

[celest nymph]

@worthy charm got any comp hot takes to share with the room?

[acoustic ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-grandpa-let's-get-you-to-bed-gif-3440862259299766707

[past veldt]

Comp players only

[main harness]

Don't make me ask paradox to leak you being a dumbdumb. I'll do it

[celest nymph]

Alf I thought you and badger were friends

💔

[main harness]

Everybody is my friend

[celest nymph]

True and real

[main harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347739895094837328/1448439633183772702/attachment.gif

[past veldt]

https://i.imgflip.com/a9u5dy.gif

[main lance]

Badger only secretly kisses other tankers, the deep state tanker kissing underground. We all know this

[vale garnet]

tanks are just metal boxes for epstein reenactors to hang out in

[celest nymph]

Badger has kissed me many times, so I can confirm this is true

[main harness]

Me and Alf are going to pub later