mess-hall

[thin lotus]

like they need another excuse to tighten the dripfeed knob

[past vortex]

i would prefer no content at all if they would fix bugs

[cosmic pilot]

No you wouldn't

[past vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-old-man-macbook-gif-23202784

[past vortex]

ofc i would

[pine ember]

Yes. But some here dont understand.

[pine ember]

Tell me - how do you know subjective preferences of the players better than they know themselves?

[cosmic pilot]

You say that, but how many times have you praised "floating rock fixed at x1.568843 y9.085537 on SME"

[silk igloo]

how much overlap is there between new content and bug fixers

[past vortex]

0x

[broken shoal]

we were 5 people, FIVE PEOPLE seeding a server and IT CRASHED. with 5 people. im done

[past vortex]

thats at the bottom of the wishlist

[thin lotus]

no one knows, and that's why the devs can do literally anything they want, as slow as they want, and can always excuse themselves by saying that's the best course of action. No one else can prove them otherwise.

People who excuse lower and lower output will get just that

[cosmic pilot]

Exactly, so admit you were wrong.

[past vortex]

no?
there are plenty of things to fix that i would prefer to any new stuff

[cosmic pilot]

Yeah, like floating rocks

[past vortex]

as i said, least important

[broken shoal]

installing squad

[silk igloo]

well, i'll just sleep over the hurdle and they wont get my munni for neat DLCs if they cant procure them fast enough. havent bought one since the british dropped though

[broken shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/load-loading-april-fools-gif-5435835

[slate canopy]

Cool, you can talk about that in #off-topic-mess-hall 🙂

[thin lotus]

players: "ok, so we dont need a devbrief every week"
devs: "ok, you'll get it every other week"

players: "ok, so we dont need a devbrief every other week"
devs: "ok, you'll get it every month"

players: "ok, so we dont need a devbrief every month"
devs: "ok, you'll get it whenever we feel we have to"

[past vortex]

elise wont see it there

[slate canopy]

Not my problem 😛

[past vortex]

:}

[cosmic pilot]

Let me put it another way.
It would be impossible to hold any player's attention with bug fixes which are mundane and will likely have no impact on the player's gameplay.

[broken shoal]

impossible to seed today, keeps crashing.

what they done to the game i love

[past vortex]

yea, but hll has needed fixed that are not mundane at all

[meager timber]

hope you like the new ue5 update. stable 24 fps gameplay, true cinematic experience

[cosmic pilot]

Such as

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[past vortex]

scoreboard is top of list

[civic dawn]

A new build containing a fix for both client and server crashes has been created, tested, and certified.

[vale garnet]

Large numbers of old players would absolutely come back if they fixed stuff over adding DLC 😂

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[broken shoal]

cinema

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-4606154426669890610

[broken shoal]

"hey we got a hotfix for the weekend, we tested and everything runs great BUT ONLY ON THE EXPERIMENTAL SERVER" Haha silly team17

[finite berry]

1. I see it in off-topic and 2. I don't play Squad

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/corgi-side-eye-corgi-judging-corgi-corgi-stare-dog-gif-8040169078397653655

[past vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scared-horse-car-window-gif-8056585856956009063

[slate canopy]

There are more hoops to get it to non-Steam version 😅 That's why it's most "officially" out yet until after the weekend.

[civic dawn]

A QA tester experienced a crash after entering a building. One by one, other testers entered the same building and also crashed

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[past vortex]

3 QA testers walk into a bar.....

[civic dawn]

Over the coming weeks, the team will continue identifying and repairing these affected assets to ensure they are corrected for Update 19.

what?

u19?

[slate canopy]

U19 with new map and more updates. It was originally scheduled sometime next month.

[wind shore]

So are we getting horses or not

[civic dawn]

more updates / more more more.... more bugs?

more fixes when?

[slate canopy]

They just said Hotfix 2 next week 😬 No read?

[meager timber]

"A full release of Hotfix 2 will come out on Steam early next week alongside the other platforms."

There could be more bad assets but they haven't found all of them yet. Probably most have been found though

[civic dawn]

????

[cosmic pilot]

What is the difference between a bug and a feature?
I can guarantee you if the devs fixes the bazooka 500m sniping garrisons the "old players" would leave in droves.

[thin lotus]

is their AI scriptwriter screwing up again

[vale garnet]

What? Rocket sniping is part of the game 😂

[finite berry]

Kedo

[vale garnet]

Dude is insane wow

[sturdy quarry]

the problem is the scoreboard doesnt sort to the top 🤔

[dusty zealot]

A rocket destroying a table at 500m seems like one of the most realistic things in the game to me

[past vortex]

its sorted by squad creation time :}
and randomly centered

[civic dawn]

ahhhhh! I forgot we're still in beta
This kind of thing can still happen... but when the final version of hll arrives it will no longer happen 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/fixed-gif-14953349

so... Probably most have been found though
And probably... The team will continue to monitor for any remaining issues, while also preparing additional asset corrections for Update 19.

full fix on u19 then?

• new map
• new features

👏🏻

[edgy gulch]

When can they start testing this stuff for console not just pc it’s killing the console community

[cosmic pilot]

Yes, the shoulder fired unguided rocket that had an effective range against a tank sized target of 200m will hit a table at 500m

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-in-angry-walk-in-angry-gif-13889037

Hello chat

[covert elbow]

Just give me adjustable sights for the launchers already and get rid of the stupid rocket sniping

It’s rather have the launchers be effective up to 300m with their sights than see someone snipe a table or arty at 700m

[dusty zealot]

Tanks got a lot more armor than a table

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hello-chat-chat-gif-11854988458409488653

[dusty zealot]

I'm just role playing as an American infantryman saying ehh I got 9 more rockets here, let's just see what happens

[meager timber]

yeah yeah devs bad

[normal rose]

Update 18 will be the death of this game unfortunately 😭🗣️

[normal rose]

It’s getting harder and harder to play comp

Definitely losing faith in HLL Vietnam as well

[edgy gulch]

Free pop

[normal rose]

Only in TPL but it’s cool I got my ways 😏

But rs I mean who’s idea was it to increase tank health, its already difficult to kill German medium tanks as American AT..

Then give commander Arty when there’s already artillery on the field

Just terrible moves from devs

[covert elbow]

The bazookas needed a damage increase for a while now. BM never buffed it after they took away the third rocket and it’s awful to use nowadays

[covert elbow]

Agreed. They needed to get rid of the field guns before they added commander artillery

[normal rose]

Not even.. it was fine and difficult the bazooka was historically accurate and so was the panzershreck, this game has ways to make it fair, and the devs are ruining it

[covert elbow]

The bazooka is not historically accurate

That thing can easily punch through PZ4 frontal armor and can hit tigers from specific angles

Not to mention it’s supposed to have 3 rounds as that’s how much the bag carried

[normal rose]

I didn’t know that

[covert elbow]

The “historical accuracy” your talking about is movie and video game myths

[crimson crown]

when is the global fix rolling out?

[edgy gulch]

Devs need to think about not just pc ur killing ur game by breaking it so badly every time we say something it’s just ignored

[crimson crown]

their code base is probably a hot mess

[slate canopy]

The original code they are working with is spaghetti 😅

[normal rose]

Damn dawg chill out we get it you know a lot about ww2

[covert elbow]

???

[normal rose]

Never

[slate canopy]

"The full Hotfix 2 release will roll out on Steam and other platforms early next week following platform approvals."

[normal rose]

They just need to go back to update 17 and leave it 😂

[acoustic rapids]

This is cope. Been years now of them owning the 'code'

[slate canopy]

Ok, and? Doesn't make it less spaghetti.

[acoustic rapids]

Ok and stop pissing in peoples pockets.

[slate canopy]

???

[crimson crown]

completely optimising and fixing the game would probably take a long a** time so they just don't care

[main harness]

I really think that the devs should have put in overtime to push this hotfix asap... 🥲

And by that I mean T17 should have paid for it

[silk igloo]

where do you get this third rocket from, it was four

[lethal matrix]

@fluid pawn im coming for you

[brave turtle]

its crazy to see how much the devs dont give a fck. I dont expect them to pull off a No Man's Sky type of turn around but fck man... get some spine into it

[silk igloo]

was the game even on console when they reduced it to 2? was there a time when bazookas on console had 3?

ninja makes me question reality

[covert elbow]

No. It was always 2 on console

[silk igloo]

then where is 3️⃣

[covert elbow]

What,???

[bold gale]

Add flak 88 eplacement and shiiii......

https://tenor.com/view/ww2-cannon-shoot-gif-16835287

[covert elbow]

On release the bazooka had 3 rockets to match up with the IRL ammo counts while the panzershrek had 2. People complained that the bazooka was OP because of the third rocket so the devs reduced the damage of the bazooka to balance it, but people still complained that the third rocket was to much so they nerfed the count to 2 rockets without buffing the damage back up and that’s where we sit today

Idk where you got 4 rockets from

[silk igloo]

where do YOU get the three rockets from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZctO4Zv8pQA here, first thing, 4 rockets

[covert elbow]

Wtf????

I was misinformed heavily then

Did they actually nerf the bazooka from 4 to 2 rockets and call it a day?

[silk igloo]

well the panzerschreck also killed a sherman from the front with one shot at one point, so eh

[covert elbow]

I hate this game

[cosmic pilot]

don't hate the game, hate the players

[silk igloo]

look at the suppression at 4:40, that's the thing

[covert elbow]

I could just hate you instead

[rocky pagoda]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200288437731852459/1233032033719156736/attachment.gif

[cosmic pilot]

i miss old suppression

[thin lotus]

1 in 7 HLL players is a cheater

😔

[livid verge]

2 crashes in 30 minutes, new personal higscore

[livid verge]

i could tell

[elder bear]

only 2 lucky

[livid verge]

hell let crash

[acoustic ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1429530146238369844/1429557961163935814/caption.gif

[silk igloo]

would go well as the title of any ww2 game

[thin lotus]

hell let loose was always a stupid name tbh

[silk igloo]

you're just grumpy

[thin lotus]

lol no

[silk igloo]

how about justly grumpy

[livid verge]

World War 2 Battelground Simulator 1945 would be much better

[lime edge]

#telegrams message

Good news at last🥳 Thank you to everyone on the dev team. I can't imagine it's easy tracking that stuff down and fixing it.

[fluid rivet]

Where are you getting this data?

[livid verge]

stalingrad

[fluid rivet]

Maybe just outplayed bro.

[livid verge]

?

[thin lotus]

this was a HLL discord inside joke years ago from where the uploader of the above youtube embed had convinced himself that 1 in 7 HLL players was a legitimate cheater

where he got his data, i forgot, but it was immensely asinine

[fluid rivet]

I'm an Unc. I didn't know. 🤦‍♂️

[thin lotus]

it was a rather niche inside joke. a joke to most, anyway

[latent peak]

Hi all. Sorry for being silent. Being in the UK i miss alot of what you guys get upto. I am however, available in an hour or two for joining some of you. I'm yet to figure out much of the game but eager to learn. What times do you guys play and what time zone so I can convert it into gmt

[river rover]

You should have plenty of servers in Europe and the UK locations or I should say same time zones that you can play during your normal hours. Most others are here in the US obviously a 5 hour difference or more. 😉

[echo karma]

Oh no. What map are they gonna brick in tu19

Remagen?

[river rover]

I thought that one was already bricked until next hotfix drops.

[nova pivot]

Is the game dead yet?

[river rover]

Nope. About to explode come next week.

[nova pivot]

Thanks 🙏

[obtuse dragon]

I was going to send a gif about this being ai But the only one I found was the guy disguises as an person from the 1800's so imagine this message is an anti ai gif because i ain't using his gifs

[nova pivot]

Let me help you

[frosty tree]

Try playing the game first. Put the Apex down and actually do your job. 38hrs in the game, the fact you are the cm for is abhorrent. The behaviour that has been shown by this dev team is extremely sub-par and disgusting. You destroyed the comp scene with this "update". So as follows is the trash you people are still failing on.
Mg mounting system
Kar98 not working
Grenade bug
Hit reg is completely broken
State of the brittish weapons is just cancer.
Grinding classes to unlock weapons that you make unavailable in the tubrok map.
Being able to see enemy thru the wall when you sit just right.
Nividia filters still in use (cheating).
Satchels not killing garrys despite being put on them.
Supplies not being available for use despite being place and showing on map.
Kills not registering in the score feed.
And many many more. How about not touching anything till you fix what you have. Take a lesson from Apex, you have over 1000hrs in game there, notice how bugs are fixed? By a competent dev team. If your job is community manager then you should start by listening to the community. Try reaching out to clan leaderships the people with boots on the ground who actually know whats going on. Also window jumps, what cancerous human thought it was a good idea to patch out roof jumps. Also why is there footage of you Ben B snapping to targets? Hhmmm @fluid pawn

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-ai-that's-ai-that's-bait-generative-ai-gif-10173095119563785364

@obtuse dragon there you go

[obtuse dragon]

TY

https://tenor.com/view/alligator-gif-934740267550688698

[night lark]

Skill issue balancing ifd you ask me

[obtuse dragon]

Wait a second

Now that heavy tanks require atleast 4 shots on the back, that could comeback 🤓

[night lark]

bro chill

[azure heath]

6 out of 7 hell let loose players are legit

[cyan saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729998051288285256/1282108659110907964/1in7.gif

[obtuse dragon]

Yeah i mean due to the high player density per ma- wait

https://tenor.com/view/67-phonk-6-7-dr-livesy-dr-livesy-6-7-gif-2805541251148118986

[frosty tree]

No its called accountability, these people need to be held accountable. They continuously ignore the community and constantly release broken updates. Also @fluid pawn should play the game sometime

[obtuse dragon]

I'm going insane

[slate canopy]

He does tho 🥺

[azure heath]

i don't get it

[finite berry]

Accountable based on what?

[obtuse dragon]

6 out of 7

[frosty tree]

He has 36 hrs

[finite berry]

And it's not like they have to listen to the community lol

[obtuse dragon]

Literally the worst meme imaginable

[azure heath]

never heard of it

[night lark]

considering theyre doing overtime to fix the fault i'd say theyrer being pretty accountable. and Ben has been fantastic with comms

[obtuse dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992122099843989625/1311080031442964490/googblast.gif

[frosty tree]

Imagine play testing first 🤣🤣

[finite berry]

Ben really is the last guy from T17 who deserves all the flak he's getting

[azure heath]

Ben is just the front man

[night lark]

bro do tyou have functional eyes? can you read?

[finite berry]

Yep; hate the message, but not the messenger

[azure heath]

i like how one of the most logical people here is a post scriptum gooner

[night lark]

PS/S44 is a pretty logical game tbh

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[obtuse dragon]

Wait, Kar98 not working???? Huh????

[night lark]

the update was play tested

[night lark]

(skill issue)

[obtuse dragon]

The post gooner

[frosty tree]

Funny how all the know it alls turn up 🤣🤣🤣

[obtuse dragon]

Me when the weapon works as a weapon:

[azure heath]

can you tickle my gruff?

[frosty tree]

You obviously have not played

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-gif-22061717

[night lark]

well yeah because you're being obtuse and the rest of us have read the telegrams

[obtuse dragon]

Also, when kills Don't register Is because the guy you shot didn't Bled out, someone stole the kill or a grenade killed them while bleeding out

[frosty tree]

You can read? Well done

[finite berry]

"everyone who disagrees with me has obviously not played the game"

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-16463163

[azure heath]

where's the hell let loose brainrot when we need it

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/titanic-band-music-violin-gif-16582632

[night lark]

you clearly cant. hush and go read the telegrams. no need to be tagging the CM because your panties are in a twist

[azure heath]

https://tenor.com/view/keepmoving-hell-let-loose-takinggermanop-u15-update15-gif-7689767871759833939

[cyan saddle]

how could Ben possibly release this smh

[gentle lintel]

The zoom in kills me

[azure heath]

was ben around then?

[cyan saddle]

no

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-spies-spies-in-disguise-youre-spies-gif-20405819

[cyan saddle]

You don't have to give each other compliments but lets try to at least keep things somewhat polite here

[azure heath]

abu you smell like a hippo

the most beautiful hippo the world has seen

[cyan saddle]

at least i aint one

unlike your mom

[azure heath]

https://tenor.com/view/get-wrecked-kid-basically-homeless-gaming-get-wrecked-dont-mess-with-me-gif-20063438

[night lark]

Bro hasnt posted much but it seems to be all drivel and copium

[azure heath]

I've been waiting on Dutch's message for a millenia

[obtuse dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-gif-22328611

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/i-prefer-my-opinion-to-yours-chernobyl-hbo-opinion-gif-27342955

[azure heath]

https://tenor.com/view/viktor-bryukhanov-cheering-gif-16931572

[finite berry]

this man gets it

[night lark]

Is the game less crashy now tho? Might actually have time to play tomorrow

[civic dawn]

Got you... It's nothing

[azure heath]

Supposedly on the testing branch.

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dope-gif-1211204957743195431

[azure heath]

thanks for the closure

[night lark]

might try a couple games see. Got a CP2077 playthrough on the go if its crashy

[azure heath]

Checking out Arc Raiders

looks intriguing

[civic dawn]

You forgot the PS

[azure heath]

https://tenor.com/view/post-scriptum-ps-dance-ww2-gif-23846314

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/post-scriptum-ps-ps-game-post-scriptum-game-ww2game-gif-15724769

[azure heath]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-hug-world-gif-16817663

Isn't it like 3AM for you Deutchlanders

[finite berry]

Nah, "only" 01:21

[azure heath]

Wow I'm off

https://tenor.com/view/zhot-doing-math-solving-equations-brain-working-hard-count-it-up-math-struggle-gif-4425467443623171546

[frosty tree]

Unfortunately not

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/ww2-meme-germany-deutschland-hellletloose-gif-9483108126992195665

[azure heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091426067501301871/1331657750421311569/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[nova pivot]

S44 × HLL?

[nova pivot]

Don't bother

[gray lagoon]

The servers are less crashy but client side crashes occur just as often

[molten sail]

just one more hotfix...

https://tenor.com/view/99-percent-of-gamblers-gif-434871090499708776

[night lark]

Personally i do think the Devs should wrap up the rest of the armour rework and game balancing and focus on un tangling all the coding that causes problems

Even if they did just like 6 months or a couple updates to make the game a bit more stable

[nova pivot]

Or we can do a public execution

https://tenor.com/view/execution-gif-24034353

They should finish killing the game and move all the devs to Vietnam.

So At least we have a playable game.

[azure heath]

Just axe the current game and make a second WW2 game.

Cancel Vietnam

Ez peasy

no time and money lost

[feral wasp]

guys can i get some tech help rq?

top right of my screen is microphone muted, idk how to like unmute myself, im not sure if its steam

[azure heath]

That's probably your headset companion app

[feral wasp]

wym? how do i like fix it, cus i have never seen ts before

[azure heath]

ss it and put it in #off-topic-mess-hall

Screenshot

for those who want to ban me

[slate canopy]

.... Damn, so close. 😮‍💨

[normal rose]

Just had 10 people crash out of a comp game this shits insane.. Devs should be ashamed, this was never a problem before this update

[river rover]

Means they probably hadn't removed the map. What map was it?

[normal rose]

Omaha, which I know was said to remove but we got a match on that map tomorrow, probably should’ve map flipped but still, just extremely disappointing

[slate canopy]

Well, you're told it is suggest not to play on 😛

[dusty bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179085355681595474/1406844456912556052/attachment.gif

[harsh heron]

At least their blogs update have been transparent, cheers for the evolution

Hope they keep it up. Also that Ben keeps in touch with us directly

[obtuse dragon]

Ben is so evil

He mugged me yesterday on an alleyway

[river rover]

I'd say mid week most likely. It's all dependent upon all of the other platforms and their implementation processes.

Microsoft, Sony, Epic all of their own processes for signing off.

Well you have this entire weekend to see how it's going and especially those on Steam that are playing the fixed version within it's own branch.

I played U18 one time and it didn't crash for me either but it was only one map and for an hour or so.

I think many folks will be back and I'm sure some may not but I mean for some it was constant crashing especially those on console.

With U19 also probably not that far off will probably bring on others.

That's my point. If the crashing is truly fixed then those folks will come back.

[frank magnet]

Game keeps on crashing. I haven't been able complete one full game

[river rover]

What server and what maps? Maps needed to be removed to fix all other platforms outside of Steam fixed branch.

[frank magnet]

Both private and public servers. Omaha and Utah maps

[river rover]

Both should have been removed thus your crashing. Read the #telegrams and play on servers or the maps that don't crash.

[frank magnet]

Public servers run by the game crashed on random maps too

"Connection lost message"

[river rover]

Again if you are playing any of the maps that should have been removed. Not all servers have removed or have probably changed anything. On console you probably want to clear your cache as well and only play the maps that shouldn't be crashing.

[frank magnet]

I mean if the public servers run by the actual game company has crashing maps, then maybe the developers should correct the matter. The game is a mine field of bugs ever since they dropped the updated map of Stalingrad (that no one asked for)

Case in point. Public server: Foy and it crashed.

[river rover]

People rent the servers. The server company doesn't control what maps people place on those servers. There's nothing to fix. The only servers where they may be removed would be Official servers which most people don't play on. T17 controls the Official servers. Public are owned\leased by individuals.

Yep, Foy is a crashing map. Don't play it.

[frank magnet]

The official servers are the ones crashing

[river rover]

Then they didn't change on some Official. You keep mentioning the crashing maps. Don't play those maps regardless of what server you are playing on.

[frank magnet]

Its kinda hard to pick your map on a official server my dude. You sorta get thrown in to whatever is open

[slate canopy]

Don't play official 😉

[frank magnet]

Private has the same issues

[river rover]

All servers will crash on the crashing maps. Key is finding a server that doesn't have them in rotation.

[frank magnet]

There is the issue. Im not gonna spend the time searching for the one map that works. And hope it holds for the whole map.

[river rover]

Fine. Then don't play.

[frank magnet]

I was voicing my concern. I guess you get that mod title and suddenly you think you work for them.

[river rover]

There is no concern because they already know the issue and have a fix planned for it and have already suggested how you get around it for this weekend.

So how is it I make it seem like I work for them?

[frank magnet]

Ok and you should've said that and moved on. Instead you came in like they're paying you provide tech support

[slate canopy]

We get you're frustrated, but no need to be a jerk either 😅

[river rover]

It's because I do most of the tech support here even though I'm a mod. That's what I do. There is absolutely no support after hours or on weekend. Take it or leave it. 😉

[frank magnet]

I was frustrated till the mod started going outside of their lane

[river rover]

It's right down my lane.

[past vortex]

hahaha, now you said it :D

[frank magnet]

I like to pretend im important too

[river rover]

I did my testing. 😛

Probably March or April.

Game is like 7 years old so not sure how much longer it will continue. I'm sure they'll be around a couple more. Most will move onto HLLV most likely.

The only game I play is HLL so I'm sure I'll also grab HLLV and will be playing it as well.

Yes, Vietnam war. Tropical jungle maps, helicopters, and some city maps.

If you kind of want to get an idea. Check out the game Rising Storm 2 Vietnam. That's probably how it will be similar too. YT has many gameplay videos for RS2V.

I only do WWII and only go as high as Vietnam. I hate modern warfare fps.

For me I like my eye candy too but only first person shooters and WWII up to Vietnam.

I have everything sim wise for DCS as well but that's a simulation more so than a game.

I loved playing Nascar as well and did do a lot on iRacing for some time.

most of my fps was the very first Battlefield games like 41-43 and Vietnam then moved over to more realistic style with the Red Orchestra games

The original were like the first to add in vehicles and large maps etc. They were really fun and good. Then they just went off the rails.

They should take the final version of HLL and convert to UE5 with a complete overwrite and release as a reboot at a reasonable price.

The reason for rewrite it to fix the current spaghetti they received and probably still consists.

I think 5 is here for a long time to come.

It's really never good to take over something and way better starting from scratch. We'll get to see how HLLV turns out and will hopefully prove out the code issues and they'll really have no excuse from a ground up game.

I'm here for the ride regardless.

Well, nice talking to ya @wind shore - this old fart needs to get his beauty sleep. Long day coming and a wedding to go to.

[woeful fog]

Tried to join a server with a CN1 and random letters, now I cant play the game and connect to the directory anymore. 10/10 game

Link doesnt even work lol

[honest geyser]

The ultimate edition of hell let loose is just cosmetic plus the base game right?

Its 25 dollars rn on the fence to buy it or not

[simple quail]

I prefer the Deluxe 🙂

Whatever. I bought the game and now I don't have time to play

[honest geyser]

Im on the fence with buying it

[simple quail]

I may buy the overlord dlc at summer when I have time to play

[honest geyser]

Is it that much more worth it?

the cosmetic dlcs look pretty cool

don't know about historic accuracy

[remote plover]

historical accuracy flew out the window the second they added STG-44's to Stalingrad

[simple quail]

I liked it ...but buying a game (specially a dlc) always depends on how much I have in the bank at the time ,I can't say I will buy it 100%

The price difference between deluxe and Standard was little when I bought it

[mint mural]

these fatal errors are a joke !

[oak current]

or people who dont care about it

[lofty pollen]

well

why is there no german hell let loose server

[worthy charm]

There is

:}

[lofty pollen]

where I wanna join

[worthy charm]

You mean like in game or discord?

[lofty pollen]

dc

[oak current]

they have their DCs most often in the game servers name
else, theres always #1343090646168240199 for clans and communities.

[worthy charm]

There is a link in #german

[oak current]

now there is

HA, TOP HUMOR

[worthy charm]

:}

[lofty pollen]

like i can`t access the channel

[worthy charm]

Click the german flag in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/413284897822867466

[lofty pollen]

wunderbar

[worthy charm]

Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[burnt lantern]

i miss old tank sounds

[ornate python]

I miss the explosions

New one is cheeks

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm

I have a question

Can you help me

[worthy charm]

Depends on the question

[finite berry]

Here, have a hug 🫂

[nova pivot]

I need 2 of them

@worthy charm

[worthy charm]

Here, have another hug 🫂

[nova pivot]

Thanks

[sick blade]

I thought they fixed the crashing? I crashed twice last night on 4 matches. Once just completely locked my PC.

[cyan saddle]

They have a solution but have to wait for the various platform to approve the release first. So it's not out yet.

In the meantime, #telegrams has a list of maps to avoid that are known to cause crashes

[echo karma]

This just in, hll has cured cancer. The servers are saved

[austere ivy]

They have to re-spaghetti the code in order to fix it

[nova oracle]

The 5 stages of leprosy- I mean playing hell let loose

Ugh. Ugh the pain of placing the airhead when the team asks for it and then watching your comeback slowly dissolve as they hard back cap you

They need to make it so you can lock and unlock garrisons and airheads from the map screen for commanders

Just grey them out for spawning on.

[nova oracle]

Is tanking safe? Is she alright?

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-star-wars-is-that-you-gif-23302211

The kill screen is too call of duty

It is funny though to be killed by a guy called Dave

[nova oracle]

I personally wouldn’t buy DLC locked to 1 map however how you spend your money is your business

If you want my advice buy the German uniforms because you can use them across all the maps

Avoid using the free paratrooper uniform for the US, people will call you fake it’s kinda one of those things

[bold gale]

https://tenor.com/view/artur-goszczyk-flak-gif-27388934

Wish we have Flak 36 in HLL and Fortnite

[meager timber]

call of duty really does live rent free in the hll community

[snow pond]

TLDR summary is longer than the main message...

[cyan saddle]

The full message is on the website

[pine ember]

Even those are not all worth it. I would buy the Zeltbahn because its a good quality skin and camoflages you better, but not more

[haughty geode]

This. Buy Pathfinder for US and Zeltbahn for Germans, those are the best ones

[pine ember]

They arent accurate

[simple quail]

Yeah I know I may decide to not buy it as I always decided to not spend money on dlcs at all, thanks for advice though 🙂

[pine ember]

Tbh the DLC arent worth it, the base uniforms camouflage you enough on relevant distances and these are the most accurate too

But I suggest you get the free ones

[shy relic]

Hey guys has anyone else had this glitch/bug when you turn the brightness up you can see ppl thru the walls

I was playing smdm last night on night mode with my brightness up and I could see ppl thru walls

I could see the outline of their body thru the walls

[nova oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[nova oracle]

Zeltbahn is great

Kinda wish it had gloves though, more of a nitpick

The False Front uniform really does work because I’ve ran past a lot of US players and it takes them ages to realise I’m German

In big assaults, I’m always moving slow and I get shot and killed, the 10 guys ahead of me sprinting ahead are fine

[pseudo rock]

any1 still having stuttering issues?

[steady vessel]

Was looking back through my steam reviews, my HLL review is about how T17 screwed up Update 14 LOL.

Wonder if this will be the new cycle. Every 4 updates T17 breaks the game for a month or so.

[nova oracle]

The 10 guys ahead of me and I’ll catch a stray round

[steady vessel]

Yeah because you're moving slow and the easiest to hit

[pine ember]

What? Why? I never noticed that

[nova oracle]

I always thought about that

I’m moving professionally and I’m doing what every veteran does

[steady vessel]

I mean, that might work in squad or arma, but HLL is a bit too much of an arcade shooter for that

[nova oracle]

It’s also because 9/10 I’m a squad lead and they see me popping off smokes they know I’m the one who can move the OP

I always make the effort to wipe out the SL first

In comp, it don’t matter because I’m a tanker

I just make sure I don’t park next to the enemy objective to be satcheled

I hate when tanks do that

“I’ll just wait here and keep dumping HE into the same hedgerow, I’m sure we’ve not been satcheled”

[junior surge]

did they fix the problem

[junior surge]

why not flak 41

[bold gale]

😈

[haughty geode]

Most people dont even bother with the DLC right now, most people use the default uniforms

[broken shoal]

90% discount on skins in epic games store

i think this is the end lads

[obtuse dragon]

what's the max shotgun range?

[river rover]

There is work around till hotfix next week. Do not play on maps listed in #telegrams

[brittle shuttle]

how is there currently a server with 127/100 players on it but in reality its empty?

[cyan saddle]

It's a bug

[cosmic pilot]

game breaking. billlions must download another hotfix

[covert elbow]

What do you mean? There aren’t any bugs in this game

[cyan saddle]

It's actually been in the game since the dawn of time afaik

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-magic-lion-witch-narnia-dont-recite-gif-14879671

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-brennan-huff-step-brothers-no-not-at-all-gif-16704124883174027526

[past vortex]

just like the fatal errors

[obtuse dragon]

like the giant piece of metal on the flamethrower loadout

[random barn]

Yes I do every 15 seconds, it feels unplayable also I get fatal error crash every 10 minute

[nova oracle]

The Community only allows these Comp players to be as good as they are, when the chips are down these “pro” players will eat each other, their code dropped at the first sign of trouble, a bad joke… you see I’m not a troll, I’m just ahead of the curve.

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-joker-2008joker-gif-27447141

[obtuse dragon]

Comp players when you play medic (it isn't a viable class and you're wasting a slot):

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-baby-cry-gif-13060743193639102619

[nova oracle]

You see nobody panics when a truck load of soldiers is blown up because it’s all part of the plan, or when the artillery lands, but as soon as I threaten to kill an old man online EverYoNe LoSes TheIr MinDs

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-joker-kill-you-what-would-i-do-without-you-joker-batman-joker-jonkler-gif-15492896523312900172

[abstract lichen]

no connection to host

amazing

[jolly flame]

While playing the engineer role, i canot upgrade the structure icreated, what should ido??? i ned help

[abstract lichen]

just, amazing

[jolly flame]

i can place plan but i cant upgrade

im watchin some videos they says ''u need sup''

like a ammo packet

how can i found

[slate canopy]

Supplies.

[abstract lichen]

do i even get the exp and levels from a game where connection is lost?

[slate canopy]

You need a support character to drop supplies, or get a supply truck to drop a supply crate.

[nova oracle]

Support player or the jeep or commander drop

[slate canopy]

To my knowledge, you should? But I'm not 100% on that.

[nova oracle]

It’s great that support players can pick up their boxes

[jolly flame]

how can i found supply??

im solo

[slate canopy]

Support player.

[jolly flame]

this game so hard how can i found sup player mann,

[slate canopy]

Or a Supply truck.

[jolly flame]

im bf player

[slate canopy]

Look for this symbol above a players head or your team.

[jolly flame]

i can see logo on players

oh okay

like a tf 2 engineer ??

i need to much supply?

[slate canopy]

What ar eyou rying to build?

[jolly flame]

or 1 time ?

umm barricade

or shooting place

usuallyy shootin place

[slate canopy]

You would need 150 supplies for a fully upgraded barricade, which you can get from a supply crate, or THREE supply players. (50 supples per player)

[jolly flame]

okay

thanks

[slate canopy]

sure thing, communicate with your team, you can maybe have 3 players drop you supplies by them switching roles, or even you switch onto the role

[covert elbow]

Jeeps only drop ammo crates

[abstract lichen]

whats better, M1 Garand or M1 Carbine?

[nova oracle]

The Garand by far

Is good in all distances

You can fire it really quickly in close quarters, it’s the best at medium and good at long

Although the best rifle at long is the SMLE MKIII

[covert elbow]

Garand

Carbine only OHK’s to 50m so there’s no reason to take it over the Garand

[steady plinth]

Are we over yet chat?

[gentle lintel]

As long as you’re with us toastie, never 🤝

[obtuse dragon]

It depends

If you want something powerful, garand

But if you want something reliable, Kinda silent and with barely any recoil, carbine

I think the m1 carbine Is the weapon with the least recoil

So, you can use it to connect multiple shots, after all, you've got 15 shots with a weapon that barely has any recoil

[thin lotus]

recoil isn't a factor when you're dealing with weapons that one-shot

[deft arch]

anyone want ot play with me?

please

[thin lotus]

the +7 round advantage that the carbine has won't ever be of use in a situation within its 50m one-shot zone to where it's better than the garand

[obtuse dragon]

It doesn't always One-shot and if you fail the first shot the recoil could mess you up, i use the m1 carbine way More than the m1 garand to hear the constant "Ting"

[thin lotus]

it one-shots within 50m

and if you're missing and/or need followup shots to down targets, those extra rounds -as i said, is not a worthy advantage to have over the garand

[obtuse dragon]

That's why I said it depends on the playstyle

Personally, I prefer the m1c, But it's understandable if someone prefers the m1g way more

[thin lotus]

a playstyle that involves **exclusively ** engaging targets within 50m...okay!
Then, and only then is it an advantage over the Garand. Good luck with that, i suppose

[obtuse dragon]

oh and the Iron sight Is really small, idk why But that helps me a lot

[obtuse dragon]

"Ting"

Or Is it a ding when you hit a headshot on someone? I have no idea

[thin lotus]

weapons all shared the same accuracy, so that's not an advantage if that's what you're getting at

[obtuse dragon]

I'm not talking about accuracy, I feel like it's easier to hit headshots with a small Iron sight tho that's Probably a placebo effect

[thin lotus]

probably is

[obtuse dragon]

I'm the Number 1 m1 carbine fan

I'll lowkey name my first son "john model 1 carbine"

[signal marlin]

yo guys, new to the game, yall recommend anything?

[slate canopy]

Have you watched some gameplay?

[signal marlin]

mostly just some funny highlights, nothing serious

[slate canopy]

#telegrams message Check out these videos

[signal marlin]

thanks

[slate canopy]

Use that mic, communicate and ask questions.

[signal marlin]

ive wanted to play some fun team mic game for a bit now, but i didnt feel like playing battlefield or some other games

[steady plinth]

When Vietnam

[scenic ginkgo]

2026

[steady plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-now-we-play-the-waiting-game-gif-16327789852622540331

[covert elbow]

Man I wish they’d shrink the garands sights to be more in line with the carbine. Their way to open and wide as of now

[obtuse dragon]

Dude i can literally fit a whole thumb on the garand iron sight

[covert elbow]

It’s crazy

I just want it shrunk a bit so I can actually use it for medium to long range

[simple quail]

Good choice ,hll is very "fun"

[azure ether]

Horse

[tawdry prairie]

Hey got a question , is the game still alive ?

[azure ether]

If no horse then no

[tawdry prairie]

Yeah I don’t understand what you are saying is that some type of slang for something in the game.

[gaunt cedar]

The game is still alive but about 50% of the regular player base is missing due to the crashing. Patch is coming in the next few days

[tawdry prairie]

Would you say I would still find playable matches ?

[gaunt cedar]

Yeah but I would just wait until the hotfix which is probably tomorrow or Tuesday

[tawdry prairie]

Cool I’ll buy it now while it’s on sale and then just watch this discord for update news . I appreciate your straightforward response! Thank you so kindly.

[terse fern]

you always have like 4-5 servers wich are fulls from 8 am to at least 2am

community servers

skirmish is kinda low pop

[bold gale]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-haru-urara-punch-uma-gif-3671877342466542406

[next moat]

anyone down to teach me how to play i just got the game

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-horse-you-have-alerted-the-horse-pretty-derby-uma-musume-gif-15063465391514740847

[azure ether]

Horse

[haughty geode]

No horse in HLL

[azure ether]

Sooner or later we will get the horse

It will bring life into the game

The people ask for horse

[haughty geode]

No

Its not a WW1 game

[azure ether]

Did horses suddenly disappear after ww1?

No, then why no horse?

[haughty geode]

No, but in combat roles in WW2 they were barely used

[azure ether]

But still used

[haughty geode]

Its pretty unrealistic seeing one on the frontline, especially in a combat role

[azure ether]

Barely but still used

[haughty geode]

In the rear...

[azure ether]

But still

Horses would help

Horse is the way of life

The way of the horse

The way forward

[haughty geode]

How?

Trucks can do anything better

There is a reason why horses are mostly just a leisure activity nowadays

[azure ether]

Horse is multiple things

[covert elbow]

Okay but like

[azure ether]

But not useless, far from it

[covert elbow]

We can get an uma musume collab

[azure ether]

Horse is life

[covert elbow]

Checkmate

[azure ether]

Truck is a just a hunk of metal

Horse is horse

[haughty geode]

Ok

[worthy charm]

Tank skins?

[covert elbow]

Real

[azure ether]

Horse skins?

[worthy charm]

Can I have my pink panther after all?

[covert elbow]

Gold ship Sherman rank when

[worthy charm]

Horses are boring and a horrible idea

[azure ether]

Horses are life

Horse is a good

Truck is good

But horse is better

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-daiwa-daiwa-scarlet-umamusume-pretty-derby-gif-3868554005270550149

[azure ether]

I rest my horse

[covert elbow]

Horse

[haughty geode]

https://tenor.com/view/ww2-panzer-panther-tank-gif-15955310

This better

[covert elbow]

Ew

That’s not uma musume

[haughty geode]

Thats a Panzer V

It panzers

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-uma-musume-uma-matikanetannhauser-mambo-gif-11614099360576799259

[haughty geode]

So what?

[haughty geode]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tank-gif-25914406

When Fall Blau map?

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gold-ship-winning-attacks-montage-gif-5551801982804505922

[bold gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528513261411368960/1410690877063430214/fdsfsdf.gif?ex=68b1efc2&is=68b09e42&hm=fe598f6115bb59471bc56edef42a0af801fe2509aefc9f2bd8bae244f6d9acfd&

[haughty geode]

Ok cool

[bold gale]

https://tenor.com/view/old-town-dance-cowboy-gif-14692056

[haughty geode]

Important yet underrepresented offensive

It should be added

Ok, we have Stalingrad, but something in the direction of Maikop

No idea

They gave us Mortain and Elsenborn instead

Both are rarely played and just werent needed

Yea, but more US maps, come on

It would be better if they added British and Soviet maps instead

Better Fall Blau

For a Leningrad map they could add Mga

Its the same

Why would you add a map just to add skins??

Thats a great development strategy, yea sure, lets add a map just to get skins

Maybe in Spain

Not really

Other battles in the area are far better known than that

Ok

Of course the Spanish will say Krasyn Bor, but if I ask here, they wont say that

[covert elbow]

St. Lo when

[haughty geode]

Krasyn Bor would just play like Kharkov most likely, better add something different, a forest map like Mga

[haughty geode]

Hopefully not until we get to play the British and Soviets more

Especially 8th Army

[covert elbow]

Who cares about those guys. More US maps are critical to the game

[haughty geode]

What

[covert elbow]

I hope we get another North Africa map with the Americans

US all the way bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

[haughty geode]

Ok, thats the only one that would be cool

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/america-merica-murica-usa-born-gif-22051907

[haughty geode]

Kasserine Pass where Rommel smashed them

[covert elbow]

Unironically yea

[haughty geode]

https://tenor.com/view/zketch-history-zdf-sketch-history-zdf-zdf-sketch-rommel-gif-21449196

[covert elbow]

I wish we could have gotten a standalone Mediterranean based game with Africa, Italy, and Sicily

[haughty geode]

what

I cant read chinese

[haughty geode]

Yep, that would have been cool, but Normandy, take it or leave it

No idea what language that is

[terse fern]

bro you re not happy with tobrouk and el alamein ????

[covert elbow]

Les goooo

[haughty geode]

Tobruk goat map

[covert elbow]

No

Cause the feature the br*tish

[terse fern]

yeah nobody is happy with it

[covert elbow]

Should have been the US instead

They won the war after all

[terse fern]

not alone

[fervent dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[terse fern]

dont forget people who gives theirs lives against germant and their friend

[haughty geode]

It took multiple mighty powers just to take one down

[covert elbow]

False

US single handily won the war with no help because the USA is the USA

[terse fern]

yes

[haughty geode]

Without the Soviets the Americans would have lost. Without the Americans the Soviets would have lost

[covert elbow]

Any other nations contributions are deep state propaganda

[terse fern]

citizen too

[covert elbow]

Hell the Nazis weren’t even German. They were actually Americans

America is the world after all

[haughty geode]

https://tenor.com/view/jd-vance-meme-jd-vance-mcartist-maryanne-chisholm-gif-9942861388404063681

[terse fern]

0/10 ragebait

[covert elbow]

What’s rage bait

[haughty geode]

Ew

[covert elbow]

All I know is America

[haughty geode]

Cultural approvivation

No

Germany is better

Because Germany is Germany

[terse fern]

when you see what they want to do the famous « cultural diversity » lol

[haughty geode]

Ok? If I wanted...

[terse fern]

so lovely cultural diversity that they killed the indians people just for some ressources and land

[haughty geode]

Chinese

[covert elbow]

False, Germany is America

[haughty geode]

This

[covert elbow]

And America is Germany

All will be American eventually

[haughty geode]

Other way around

[covert elbow]

Uhm actually this didn’t happen because you weren’t even there

Checkmate

[terse fern]

https://tenor.com/view/tariffs-trump-trump-chaos-not-gonna-end-well-trump-speech-gif-9375631191405003702

[haughty geode]

Only Germany can be German

[terse fern]

ask to the H

[haughty geode]

Germans werent that much involved

If they were the country would be better

[gentle lintel]

Scream if you love Switzerland

[haughty geode]

Trump isnt German

Switzerland isnt as good as Germany

[slim lynx]

Crashes without error codes. This is the crash people have been having? Just froze for 2-3 seconds, went back to desktop.

[haughty geode]

What

No?

I see we have stereotypes here

He isnt German. End of discussion

He is not born here, he doesnt speak our language, he doesnt know our culture. He isnt German

What the

Its just weird to say something like this

That doesnt make him German

What the... It is but he still isnt German nor can he speak our langugae

No?

Just look at Russia, there are so many ethnicities and there isnt the "typical Russian face"

No, we cant

[silk igloo]

russian would be the tribe that took over all other tribes, which do have their own looks. like that one secluded population in the middle of russia that is 100% ginger

[haughty geode]

Yea fair, but there still isnt the "typical look of a nations people"

Thank god Im not

Switzerland isnt Germany either

What?? Again, stereotypes

Depends

The average Swiss citizen is living a worse life than the average German citizen

Depends

Thats false

Not everyone there is rich

No?

[oak current]

these pointless conversations

its amazing

[haughty geode]

Indeed

[silk igloo]

not for individuals. line up a 100-1000 of a people and the averages start to show. although i suppose individuals cannot tell apart distant populations as easily, hence the "all look same" stereotype. idk if its genetics or experience

[haughty geode]

Yea, thats right. But you cant look at a single person and tell right now "oh that guy is German for sure since he has "German" features"

[nova oracle]

YO, HO, YO, HO a Tankers life for me

[silk igloo]

i suppose there's other cues like if you're in a tourist spot that has lots of germans, but the feeling is kind of accurate. they sure dont look like finns or russians

[nova oracle]

all the rum and really bad eggs!

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-des-caraïbes3-pirates-of-the-caribbean3-jack-sparrow-wtf-fuite-gif-4377147024712170000

[pine ember]

what happened here?

[topaz cape]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-something-gif-22233433

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[bold gale]

https://tenor.com/view/astolfo-happy-gif-22218025

[sage barn]

guys check this out its horrifying #hll-videos message

[obtuse dragon]

i still don't understand why the soviet commander doesn't have more than 1 loadout

Literally the only one on all of the commanders that doesn't have more than one, like, i don't think it's THAT hard to change the ppsh 41 for a mosin nagant

[past grove]

is the game down? every server is emtpy

[river rover]

Check your filters

[obtuse dragon]

Nope, probably a bug, i can see a ton of servers with people

[nova oracle]

The soviet commander not having a rifle is so aids

[stray imp]

Hello, whenever I try to connect to any HLL server, game loads for few minutes and then I get Lost connection to host error. To any server.. Game is litteraly unplayable for me in this state because I cant connect to any server. I have searched internet and found many people complain about this issue as well. Some posts are even a year old..(which is crazy). I have tried litteraly every single "fix" I found on youtube or internet. I managed to fix it one day, played 2 matches and next day I came to play and it was broken again.. Nothing worked. Could anyone help me with that? Or is it being adressed in some future hotfixes?

[obtuse dragon]

Idk i just closed the game and reopened and the bug stopped, tho i'm pretty sure it's being adressed for future hotfixes

[past vortex]

#1271718922734796865 read the last messages

[abstract lichen]

M1A1 Thompson vs M3 Grease Gun, whats better?

[haughty geode]

MP40

[past vortex]

grease gun is the worst, it shoots sooooo slow

[past veldt]

Just sounds like your game is installed on a HDD rather than SSD

[stray imp]

Well, it is.. But few months ago it was on the same disc and it worked. Ill try to install it on my SSD then. Thanks everyone for answers.

[past veldt]

That's your issue then. HDDs are just not good enough for games now

[past vortex]

read what i said, i just explained it to someone

[stray imp]

Strange.. Litteraly every game works fine, even newer games. But yea I will definitely try it. Thank you.

[stray imp]

I did.

[past vortex]

so yea , it can happen it worked and next day not anymore...

and yea it is the fault of hll

btw we could start the next outrage about the hdd thing, they could totally fix that if they would bother....

joining the server isnt time critical for other players

but lets see if the current outrage is really resolved :}

[obtuse dragon]

Slow fire, low damage and a ton of smoke when firing

[worthy charm]

It has the same dmg as any other smg so I wouldnt say thats a negative.

[obtuse dragon]

Wait it does?

Meh, the point Stands But without the damage part

[past vortex]

even a pistol will kill you before the 2nd shot goes off tho :D

[obtuse dragon]

Weird recoil, slow firing speed, Big Iron sight and the smoke covers your View so you can't see shi

Literally the only reason on why i avoid the satchel loadout on the US

[slate canopy]

gimme my shotgun satchel engeineer, I'm happy 😎

[past vortex]

while the shotgun is fun it isnt good at all

[worthy charm]

True but sad

Played some flamethrower on seeding yesterday is it was fire

[past vortex]

i have come to hate playing US
just because of the weapons the satchels are combined with

[obtuse dragon]

Some love the US, some love the germans, But I... Love the bri'ish

[haughty geode]

Same

[obtuse dragon]

Ei'ht bri'ish army>>>>>> US

[haughty geode]

Germans, Soviets and 8th army are fun

[nova oracle]

WHAT IVE DONE, IVE FIXED MYSELF TO CROSS OUT WHAT IVE DONE…. FORGIVING WHAT IVE DONE

[nova oracle]

The Bri*sh were the only reason the Americans pushed as deep as they did

The Brits kept the flanks and supply lines going

If it weren’t for the Churchill and firefly, you Americans would have been eating dust

American “exceptionalism” more like exceptional arrogance

You guys got such a black eye in 2001 you still go on about it

[slate canopy]

Allliriiiiight

let's not get politics in here. 😄

[nova oracle]

Jet fuel don’t melt steel beams

C4 planted at the base does thigh

[slate canopy]

Let's not get into conspiracy theories about that.

[hexed oak]

🤔

[nova oracle]

COVID 19 never happened

[river rover]

We went to the moon!!!

[nova oracle]

Those people died because of stress or induced cardiac arrest

[haughty geode]

No

[nova oracle]

That we did

Winston Churchill was based

The only people who hate are Australians

[haughty geode]

But just generalizing and saying he is an idiot is false

[nova oracle]

Oliver Cromwell was worse than hitler

Oliver Cromwell was so bad they cut his head into 3 pieces

[finite berry]

Why is all the rage bait nowadays so pathetically bad

[nova oracle]

Equal rights, equal fights

If a girl hits me, I’ll hit her back

[haughty geode]

Ok, but objectively its pretty generalized saying he was bad

[nova oracle]

So what we supposed to think of hitler if Churchill was so “bad” ?

Are you French? @wind shore

Gosh I hate the French

[silk igloo]

Cant we all agree that they were all more or less mad

[haughty geode]

Yea, but not entirely correct

[silk igloo]

should've subjected themselves to finland since we've never done anything wrong

[slate canopy]

Let's just stop there please 🙂

[silk igloo]

but we still want to playyyy

[slate canopy]

It's skirting politics and I just don't want to deal with this right now.

[silk igloo]

violent video games like hll is politics, innit. ban everyone

we can make it politics if we keep arguing about it

[haughty geode]

No...

[silk igloo]

i can feel polars angry stare

[oak current]

https://tenor.com/bUTCk.gif

[meager timber]

Kinda. The most influential people were

That was pre 1917 tho

[silk igloo]

somehow after reinstalling the game after how many years it feels like it runs way worse

or maybe i got used to bf6 since i keep trying to pull my knife out to run faster

[meager timber]

Yeah it's a problem lol. I play some older fps games that run at like 700 rock solid fps. Warfork @ 999 stable. Then I come back to HLL

[silk igloo]

nvm i had vsync on

[thin lotus]

HLL feels really "unreal engine-esque".
(This isn't a good thing)

[meager timber]

How do you feel it?

[past vortex]

the general game engine situation rn is unreal

[meager timber]

I get what you mean since I'm really accustomed to Quake engines or variations of it

[past vortex]

you can feel its clicked together and uses modules instead of being programmed
its like a wordpress website

[meager timber]

Ahhh I get it lol. Never though about it like that but I definitely see it

[obtuse dragon]

The game has the "playable game" graphics and the "yo this looks so cool But I can't see sht" graphics

[thin lotus]

This is a good descriptor of it

It's an issue beyond just the fidelity of visuals. It feels like an unreal engine game, which again, isn't good.

Even walking around in HLL, you feel as if you are just floating in a very linear UE-'insert value here' programmed way

jumping, vaulting, reloading. It all explicitly feels like you are on cool down timer, because that's what it is. The limitations of your soldiers actions doesn't feel grounded in reality, but rather abundantly like game code

Those who are more observant and play other FPS games, probably can come back to HLL and immediately feel something is 'off'.

[meager timber]

Damn that hits hard. You are very on point with this. For me it feels like your character moves on rails and is really floaty and slow but you don't feel the weight. It's like your not in contact with the environment at all

[thin lotus]

I've described HLLs walking/running as 'motorized scooter' plenty before. Floaty, linear, on rails movement.

Reloading every weapon explicitly feels like you are waiting for animation keyframes to finish. Like when you have to wait for the gun to "settle" at the end of its animation before you're able to fire it again

not really, but if done well it wouldn't hurt.
Better camera work, and sound, I think would have more impact in masking its issue.

HLLs movement feels slow, not 'weighty'.
Slow isn't inherently bad, but it feels programmed slow. It's hard to describe

[meager timber]

The velocity values of the player when starting to walk, sprint, coming to a stop, jumping should be polished so it doesn't feel robotic. Also more detailed physics interaction with the player model and map, assets etc.

Especially when you vault it usually feels like you are performing a programmed action because the interaction with fences etc. is so clunky

It doesn't feel smooth at all

[thin lotus]

It feels very 'staged'.
Line yourself up within the designated angle of a vaultable object, press a button, then your soldier slingshots himself over it

[covert elbow]

HLL’s base game needs a lot of polish and work. For all the hype of its graphics (at least on console) once you look at the micro a lot of assets are very low quality, like 240p. That combined with the “slow” movement as you put it and the very basic gunplay makes the base gameplay something to be desired

That’s what I want over tank reworks right now

A clean up of the base game

[meager timber]

I think the old school way is less realistic but works better. I mean don't have a vault mechanic at all and just use a jump mechanic. Want to go over a fence? Jump over it. Want to vault on top of something? Jump on top of it and design the maps so there's always something to jump off off

[covert elbow]

No vaulting is nessecary

Just wish there was a standing, slow, and fast version

That way it’s variable on speed so you aren’t movie action sliding every time

[thin lotus]

That's an important distinction to have, I dont know if there' s a term for it. In the sense that it's preferential/ better "game feel" for a game to act like 'gamey' with how the player interacts with its environments, rather than [you will now vault over this waist high object at a push of a button] action.
Like, you are enabling the player to interact with the game world rather than a series of locked-in movements.

The jumping comparison you've describe would lead to better "game feel". Which is a good trade off even at the slight expense of 'realism'

[meager timber]

The vaulting mechanic is cool for sure. It just becomes a nightmare when the game is as big as HLL. I mean think about the size of the maps and the number of vaultable assets. It's no wonder that vaulting is clunky. If you wanted to fix that you would have to design every asset and part of map with that in mind and it takes a lot of manpower and hours. But I guess vaulting is a core part of HLL now. If they had done it differently from the beginning it might have been a better choice. Just a thought

[covert elbow]

The “if they had done it differently from the beginning” carry’s a lot of weight with this game

[thin lotus]

It's a lot of little things that add up

[covert elbow]

The original devs made this game with the philosophy of “oh that’s cool” with no further thought put into it

Looking back and seeing the progression of development makes you realize they had absolutely no plan on actually fixing issues and just wanted to see what worked

They weren’t making the game to be functional or perfect

[meager timber]

Was vaulting always a part of the game?

Or did they add it later

[thin lotus]

No

it was added pretty earlier on. Being able to float out of a trench line was a big deal back then

[meager timber]

Sounds like the vaulting was an afterthought then. Not really a design choice :F

[covert elbow]

Correct

[thin lotus]

It came in mid 2019. back then it was said "We’ve always intended to include vaulting in Hell Let Loose, but after reading your feedback we made the choice to prioritise its addition to the game."

[covert elbow]

Most stuff in this game is an afterthought lmao

[bold gale]

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

Котяра

[covert elbow]

Holy **** kitty

[thin lotus]

Even small improvements on the audio front, would be an improvement.
In the whole run speed debacle era this game had, they didn't mess with the running animations to account for the snails pace we end up with

https://streamable.com/0iy1ky

it's little things

[covert elbow]

Oh god I remember that!

Yea all the animations looked really wonky because they didn’t bother to match the animations haha

And the breathing was really speed up

[meager timber]

Oh man. I hadn't noticed this before. Also you make no sound when you run on top of assets. Or atleast most of them

[brittle shuttle]

this game sucks so bad man its actually unplayable still

[bold gale]

No

[brittle shuttle]

yes

i cant even play the damn game man

[covert elbow]

Just clear your cache lmao

[brittle shuttle]

i have lmao

[meager timber]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Security_and_Intelligence_Service

[covert elbow]

Clear it again then

[brittle shuttle]

i di d

[covert elbow]

???

[covert elbow]

A third time maybe?

[finite berry]

I thought the hotfix will drop on Monday?

[brittle shuttle]

i dont think that will work gangy

[bold gale]

No, that's not true. This game is only one thing that saves me from k*ling myself

[meager timber]

Lol supo is the abbreviation of finnish security police

[covert elbow]

I got nothing then

[pine ember]

Hopefully they fix the game

Else they created Smolensk for nothing

[bold gale]

No, it doesn't help me, even if i do that

[brittle shuttle]

nice my game lost connection to hos tfor a third time in ten minutes

[bold gale]

Women

[bold gale]

But that happens 4 or 3 years ago, and it's doesn't matter. Then, that's all that I'm gonna say about that.

[dim snow]

Level 1 bug has made a return again

[haughty geode]

They could have focused on fixing instead. A new map wasnt neccessary

[pine ember]

Depends, rn I am not interested in it

It will never beat Kharkov, Stalingrad and Kursk

[thin lotus]

somebody pull up the number of players on the experimentl branch

[bold gale]

No one

[pine ember]

German women >>>>

So what?

Crimea is Ukraine anyways

Better Ukrainian

[bold gale]

No, it's not

[meager timber]

pls not this topic

[pine ember]

Yes

[haughty geode]

Anyways guys I think we can all agree that something needs to happen with HLL

[pine ember]

It cant. Stalingrad was perfect urban warfare, Kharkov is just too immersive and fun, Kursk just is what I imagine from the eastern front

Why would you even start that topic?

We are on a gaming server, who cares about that

Ok

[obtuse dragon]

Yeah, we need

[haughty geode]

Reworks and fixes. Delay Slomesntk until the game is fixed

[obtuse dragon]

AT rifles for the germans

[gray lagoon]

Something already has happened, the devs are much more trnasparent as of recently

[haughty geode]

Nah come on, maybe only for the DAK

[haughty geode]

Yea, thankfully

[obtuse dragon]

I need a pzb against a Sherman, idk why I love at rifles 🥺

[haughty geode]

"Better" Tobruk is a good map, but everything else, I dont know. People prefer more fixes

[haughty geode]

Would make no sense

[meager timber]

If they focused only on bug fixes and optimization it would be fire. I mean include something small so that all the workers have something to do but divert most hours into fixes. Stability and performance > new content

[haughty geode]

We wont get a subfaction for them

[obtuse dragon]

Same goes for the STG on Stalingrad

[silk igloo]

it's a good topic. let me see, i think you'd need a strong willed latina who'd take you to places while you complain about it being unnecessary

[haughty geode]

Yea, but they wont remove that

We never had a timeframe for that

[obtuse dragon]

I would also love to see an AVT instead of a PPSH-41 for the soviet auto rifleman

[meager timber]

this is weirdly relatable

[haughty geode]

So what? A year solely for fixing the game would be something

No. Its always the same 6 maps in rotation anyways

[obtuse dragon]

People would complain about no new content and would be calling the game "dead"

[haughty geode]

Why do I need maps that I will barely play anyways

Broken things can be fixed

[worthy charm]

Most players hate playing the french or normandy maps over and over agian...

[obtuse dragon]

Every game has broken code when you think about, you can't just add something new without accidentally messing something up, like tf2 and the sniper eating his gun

[obtuse dragon]

please, no more carentan...

[haughty geode]

How about fixing all issues, not only the critical ones?

[obtuse dragon]

please god, make Omaha stop...

[worthy charm]

Its not that bad imo, but few more maps for other faction then US vs. Axis would be welcomed.

[meager timber]

I mean people play the same 5-6 CS maps for thousands of hours and years on end...

[worthy charm]

Where is Juno Beach when you need it....

[obtuse dragon]

Even then, adding even the smallest thing to a line of code can mess up a sht ton of stuff, like the typo on that Alien game that messed up the AI

[haughty geode]

Same, but somehow the rotations arent changed. So why should they add more maps when we have like 20, but only 6 are played often? First the other 14 should also be played on a decent amount

[worthy charm]

Someone ping craig :}

[haughty geode]

And after that all other issues

[obtuse dragon]

Every game has broken code because the devs never expected to add a specific thing, and that's normal and okay

There's no game with perfect code

[meager timber]

de_dust2 is 24 years old lol

[silk igloo]

you mean the game that had millions of it's funds looted to fund borderlands instead?

[obtuse dragon]

I think so

[silk igloo]

i will never forgive them

[haughty geode]

Yea, but fixing them has priority

Yes, but then fix the others rather than just push out more content

[worthy charm]

Server owners / their community's decide the maps as they pay for the server.

I found a good server by now

with a big votemap pool

[covert elbow]

And the Soviets since all their maps take place before the panzershrek was issued

[obtuse dragon]

that's why I haven't seen a single server playing Stalingrad

[haughty geode]

Yea, but since I barely see new maps popping up in rotations, I dont get why they should release new ones when they have like 10 that are barely played

[worthy charm]

Didnt play Stalingrad once after the rework 😆

Amazing how weird that is.

[haughty geode]

True, but we wont get a subfaction for the eastern front and a use of the Panzerbüchse as a AT weapon was not common anymore after late 1941

[covert elbow]

Fair

[haughty geode]

It wont

[obtuse dragon]

"oh hey it looks cool!"

"Oh hey it runs worse"

"Oh hey they evicted Pavlov"

And then the map was never played by the community again

[haughty geode]

Same

[covert elbow]

God just give me an ostfront subfacftion

There’s so much opportunity for DLC’s T17!

[haughty geode]

AT guns, rocket lauchers, satchel charges and so on were used

So what?

[haughty geode]

Yes, please

It still wont beat Carentan

[worthy charm]

I play tobruk a lot to be honest, its a great map imo

[haughty geode]

No? Tell me where?

[obtuse dragon]

Tobruk is cool

[haughty geode]

Yes, same, I like it but played it two times

So why say things that arent true?

[obtuse dragon]

It has good flanking spots, strong points for both sides and even the sandstorms

[covert elbow]

I like it. Shane it never appears

[worthy charm]

I dont have any performance issues so I cant comment on that, but I doubt many care about Pavlovs.

[haughty geode]

The community wanted urban maps in general. And I never demanded one

[bold gale]

True

[haughty geode]

We have one

No? I can have my own will

[silk igloo]

denser maps should be narrower. we could splice carentan into 2-3 slices and make 3 new maps that play different with almost 0 effort

[haughty geode]

No

[worthy charm]

I know Stalingrad is an urban map, but it just doesnt feel like it...

Carentan and Tobruk are way better when it comes to urban CQC combat

[silk igloo]

imagine if you absolutely had to wait for a tank or build a barricade because there was only 1 or 2 roads to advance through (no, it wouldnt be like remagen because you could still have an OP in some backyard)

[obtuse dragon]

The map has so many effects that it causes performance issues to a lot of people, I normally play above 60 FPS on my pc But when I play the new Stalingrad it goes to 20

Also, they butchered pavlov's house to the point that now you can just tank spam it and the enemy can't do anything about it, they made it weaker, literally took away the thing that made pavlov's house recognizable

[meager timber]

just give me semi-auto rifles in the desert maps. all my homies hate bolt action

[obtuse dragon]

At this point they should just change the name of it, because it isn't pavlov's house anymore

[covert elbow]

That’d be interesting

[brittle shuttle]

soulsniper server crashing every 5 mins bruh

[haughty geode]

Yes, people have false expectations about urban warfare in Stalingrad

[bold gale]

I love bolt action rifles so much

[covert elbow]

Carentan but cooler

[obtuse dragon]

They're lowkey peak & fair