#mess-hall
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I dont dare to ask for how long youre around, but anyone here knows how easy they can break things and how long it takes to fix them. BM seemingly ignored the loadout bug for years and even the current devs needed a few attempts and time to fix it. My fovorite example is how the slight Sprint speed increase in U14 gave everyone rubberbanding because the Server couldnt keep up.
Just saying, it might look simple but it Almosen never is.
@nova pivot mimimimi
So the KingTiger should be only available for those that paid a DLC for it?
Then don’t make it a DLC ;))
Say No to Volksturm in Stalingrad! Say No to King Tiger in Stalingrad!
Only lockable vehicles
If it’s for example modification
It shouldn’t be in the game at all
Example modification
Wait guys I have an idea
That should be standard on most maps
Variations of most of the vehicles
No vehicle DLC!
What if we discuss this whole thing after storming the T17 offices? Once inside, we do whatever we see fit. What's said here won't be heard by anyone.
StuGs different
(He joined at the end of June)
Stugs won’t work with the current meta
Also yes, people SEVERELY underestimate how complicated, hard, sophisticated and time-consuming game developing often is. And how "muh just fix it" literally doesn't work.
That doenst need to mean he play the game that long... 😅
Im just trying to keeps the expectations a bit lower for what they can do.
Elaborate please
That won’t work either
S44 has it though for certain maps
It would , I can’t explain
Can we please end this pointless argument and talk about S44 instead :D
No, arguing is more fun
If you can’t explain why do you know then that it would work?
It would
Welp, true lol
Just rotate your tank
Duh
That’s more difficult than it does sound
Anyways, just because you want certain things doesn’t mean they are needed or will make the game better
90% of MrKedo's messages in a nutshell
But don't stop, keep arguing 🥺
Oh yea
What can you tell me? I'm a dumb console user, keep that in mind.
In many ways better than HLL
From the little I've seen, what I like most is the wide variety of vehicles.
Been away from game for maybe 9 months. Curious if new patch has brought any improvements to optization/ stuttering
😬
Ah no I’m not familiar with that, it sounds quite incompetent, I’ve always found the sprint speed quite annoying, I feel like if I’m getting shot at by a machine gun I could run slightly faster than a light jog
I bought that game, entered a match, opened the map, and closed the game from immense confusion
I have all DLCs for free due to a bug, I opened a ticket out of fear I would be banned or charged Up, neither happened and I still have all the drip for free.
Not that I'm complaining.
Servers not working?
Cannot connect from Epic? Steam friends had no issue.
Hell let loose is broken
what happen
No servers show up and they say cant connect
support said something?
No servers again. Epic games shows no issues so doesn't seem to be them this time
or not yet
Bro I just wanted to play 🥴
no servers up atm
This happens wayyy too often nowadays
I can’t seem to ever finish a match without the game freezing
Are there any tricks to sidestepping this bug
Does anyone know if Crossplay between PC/Console is a potential?
We can't even have real play without the servers shitting themselves
#1369177126279839827 message still not
I'm definitely a fan of Ben, I think we've surpassed Wombat levels of transparency.
It's Sunday, let the man rest.
Yep, that's like one of the aspects that keeps it apart from other games of the same genre. I've just checked, Germany on its own already has one motorcycle (with a sidecart), the Kettenkrad, two jeeps, one truck, four AT guns that can get moved around by infantry, six halftracks (one with MG 42s, one with a 7.5 cm AT gun, one with a 2 cm Flak, one being the Panzerwerfer 42), four armoured cars and 16 tanks, 22 if you include different versions of the same tank (there are three diferent PzKpfw IVs for example, model D, G and H).
And that's just one faction, there's six more.
But I'm pretty much an infantry main and all these vehicles are only available depending on the specific map and layer because they're all tied to their respective battlefields where they actually appeared (Pershing and Sturer Emil being an exception if I'm not mistaken).
Thank you both.
It was nice meeting you all. No crossplay means this is not the game for me.
A tutorial is supposed to drop later this year, but yeah, unfortunately, the game tells you f u ck all as of now. There are some in-game-linked video tutorials tho, some official, some made by community members (me). If you are interestedin actually learning the game at some point, shoot me a DM.
Honestly, that's what I like the most, having options, not like in Hell Let Loose where you have a tank for each type of tank.
Except for the heavy one
It's absolutely insane because for example the M4A3 Sherman exists in multiple variations already, one of them being the "normal" one and another one having those tall exhausts and air-intake things so they can get through water (those variants exists specifically for the Utah Beach map).
How cool, some DEVs should take notes...
On how to add variety and keep everything historically correct
Huh?
It's his job, I guess he doesn't work on Sundays.
How long will this take?
When’s the next map coming out ?
Stalingrad rework is next. No PTE yet for the new new map so no clue on a timeline for that.
Didn’t they just work on Stalingrad?
it def needs some rework 🔥🔥🔥
Nothing released yet, so their are still on it.
Next map is a soviet map in Summer 1943 if I remember correctly
Summer 1943 Eastern front(I am sure that means Soviet I don't think they explicitly said Soviet?)
Eastern front is soviets?
Yes
Don't get my hopes up
Ya I just peeped the road map
How far east we going? Lol
Invasion of LA xD
I’m still very confused on what they even could be talking about, the urban combat side of things from the summer 1943 was very small 😂
There’s a few little battles that would make good maps around the time of Kursk though
I think… at least off the top of my head there was Belgorod, Kharkov city, Ponyri, and Kursk city. Which weren’t super big. But all were fought around August and are relatively in the areas where the other maps are
They should give us a teaser
But that doesn't make money, I doubt they'd spend time on something like that.
😭
pacific mentioned 🏝️
Where can I ask questions in this server
Here
What's your question?
If it has anything to do with pacific:..
where he can ask
lol
Do SMGS have just innate inaccuracy On the ironsight?
Sometimes I'll absolutely PING someone at 200+ meters and then other times I'll fire half a mag aimed at the same spot and not hit once
(German)
It does depend, they do have quite a bit of spread, so it’s up to chance. I wouldn’t really say I’ve never noticed difficulty at range with getting hits though
But still, smg’s are extremely good at mid range against unarmored targets (which is true to real life) 😂
I think the mp-40 is my fav weapon in Hll, just all round based
there is no innate innaccuracy with any of the weapons when aiming
English speaking servers are always either full or empty
StG44 for the win
I though that being able to destroy barricade with 1 AT shot etc were only in for PTE. Have these changes been implemented for long?
1x Panzerschreck
Bunker lvl1 - ✅
Barricade lvl1 - ✅
wire - ❌
bunker lvl 2, 3 - ❌
Barricade lvl 2, 3 - ❌
1x Tank AP - Panther
Bunker lvl1, 2, 3 - ✅
Barricade lvl1, 2, 3 - ✅
wire - ✅
Nothing serious. I’ve been playing this game for years and always wondered, why are Germans main grenade not the m24 lol
I know it’s in some classes, but barley
"The Model 1924 grenade was technically "succeeded" by the Model 1943 (M43)." Would be my guess (off the wiki about all those models).
It's whatever the devs decided to go with 🤷♀️
Better ask why there is no M39 "Eihandgranate" which was in fact way more common than the Stielhandgranate...
Yes, it is, second class of the German rifleman
You are welcome
Is there any system like the barricade one, to prevent trolls and cheaters from playing on official servers as well ?
I've seen so many times cheaters and people trolling and the only thing we can do is kick them but most of the time people don't vote...
Official servers are garbage compared to community ones, I would stay away from them.
There isn't currently. You'd have to report the players to the platforms.
Most of the time I play on official since I'm too lazy to talk too much. And most of the community require to talk 24/7...
Communication is important in the game 😅
Where and how could I do that ?
I communicate, but important info not garbage thing like "how was your day" I don't care about stranger life I'll talk to only once in my life
Thanks
I see nothing wrong with just random conversation. 😅 As long as they are still communicating necessary information.
Sometimes I just want to shoot some people and that's it. But yeah it's just only sometimes, most of the time I'm very friendly and will open talk with anyone who wants to
I recommend you just play on a community server; not everyone has unnecessary conversations. Often, just letting your officer know you're listening is enough.
I've had a-many a group on community where no one talked lol I just switch because I don't want that, but that'd work for you!
Often, the officer doesn't communicate either 😅
Unfortunately, but it will be enough for him, the same as on an official server but with moderation
All I want is for cheaters to don't be able to play.
The worst is literally that some of them doesn't even care to hide it, they fly burn everything in their path but it's totally fine for them to destroy the fun of others..
But yeah, will try more community servers in near future
Anytime with a community servers, you can report them to the community, often with !admin reason, or just hopping on their discord , which many share in #1343090646168240199 .
I've experienced 2 legit cheaters in a community server, hopped in their discord to get an admin and resolved within minutes.
And most of the times, they get banned from all server in one go, thanks to barricade
Good evening. 
I said good morning
But it's evening for me 😠
fine... "good morning"
Its 9:27 PM here
8:27 pm for me lol

I'm pretty sure I've played on your central server a good chunk of times lol
Appreciate that!
We also have a Skirmish-only server, probably the only active Skirmish server in this whole game lol
Nah 7:29 😉
Come play on Blueberry Dreams!!
Glow servers are always my go to if there’s slots ngl 😂
That’s crazy, idek there was any active at this point…
There wasn't until I made one lol
Skirmish is a ton of fun, I wish more people gave it a chance
Yeah… I mean it’s not terrible, the hate is not deserved
Hopefully well get some more unique ones in the future
30 minutes was too short. I am glad that allowed longer matches. We currently run 45 min matches
Its the perfect median imo
I will try later this week 
I’ll get on and check it out again sometime, I don’t think I’ve played skirmish since Elsenborn pte lmao 😂
Played a full over an hour match
Fatal error last 2 minutes :c
We won but I didn't get as much xp. Hope the job xp is still good since I put in hella support work
You should still get the XP
I see I am rly not alone with this sudden #1389260170898571435 business that started happening to some of us like a week+ ago. 😵
Also, some suggestions to make the crashing with reconnecting less painful: #1391662426713362453
When playing as tankers do tanks have weak spots like in warthunder and battlefield
I thought they did
If you mean where to hit them to destroy them, the best thing is from the back.
Cus it shoot the hulls or hatches and gun ports and can kill most tanks in battlefield doing that
That doesn't work in Hell Let Loose.
Yeah I figured as much im used to war thunder so like I was sitting there giving my tiger a bit of angle and people were looking at me crazy and I thought the front and sides would make tank shells ricochet
Yes, there is a ricochet mechanic, but it is very vaguely done.
Ah ig that's what a 50gig game has lol
I don't know how tanks work lmao
Aiming them is weird tok
Search for a video on yt
I am
Is it wrong to blast sabrina carpenter as me and my idiot friends speed to the front line in a puma
Or pzII
Better use a Panzerkampfwagen IV, V or VI and blast Rammstein
So what do we the people think this new armor type is, as expressed in: #1369177126279839827 message
Tank destroyers
Or spg
It's the only type that is missing to add
Yeah, 100%
I think tank destroyers
But who cares anyway
The important question here is what those "fresh dynamics" and "crew skills" are
Go to S44 and let me be Happy for a moment
the fresh dynamics are what I'm more interested in
Read my following message
^^
Same here
crew skills could be interesting, but i don't think they'll be game changing
To be honest I dont believe you need skills rn,. Its mostly not being stupid and getting intel.
New tank type won't change anything if the dynamics and mechanics aren't changed
At least in pub games
I kinda agree
Vehicle combat overall must become more dynamic in general
hopefully the tank variant is a ratte
I want a jadgpanther or hetzer
nope, here's a stug take it or leave it
Rather expect a StuG III
Stug is still cool
most plentiful
I like turtle looking tanks
Most bootiful
that too
The SdKfz 222 would also be good.
That's cute
next on my list to talk about is.. new mode surrounding the idea of tickets, could be interesting: #1388274813545615460 message
Not too hyped about that, ngl
Tickets :D
not hyped, but definitely want to see how it plays out
And the new map?
its indeed summer 1943
not sure about the urban part, but I do remember they said it has been suggested already on here.
7 August – 2 October 1943
Well, it's Smolensk.
I think there is a suggestion about Smolensk.
Wanna bet money on it Nice people are on the same side at least once.
Yeah, from kedo with a huge amount of pictures and stuff
Let's hope they use it, the city looks interesting.
There are cool points of interest
If we get the same amount of houses with roomes as on Tobruk it would go crazy. I really love tobruk for that kind of combat.
definitely a lot different from stalingrad, much closer streets and a city wall
The ppsh is going to fly through those streets
The m38, cleaning house by house
best gun in the game, imo ofc
that'd actually be horrifying, but i feel a satchel and it's dead
Like everything
Imagine putting that in the kurk mills.
like everything 🫥
oh lord
Tank destroyers are my weakness
Honestly I dont think it will be Smolensk
what's your thought?
Don't ruin our joy
It is also true
The worst thing is that it is half done.
It was leaked a long time ago
my map is that, just using more recent satellite footage
Smolensk itself was rather short and more in autumn
I think it will be something in the Kursk area after Citadel, maybe Orel, Belgorod or the fourth battle of Kharkov
yeah, i mean it's still mostly summer, september is summer until the 20th
i'll take belgorod
Note that they said we suggested it.
But the battle in Smolensk itself was in early October
I dont think its based on Kedos suggestion, it is most likely in development longer since that
we just need a name drop
They don't know how to keep the player base hyped up.
They should show something, an image, a name, whatever.
BM was much better at doing that
@fluid pawn
that's one way of doing it
We demand to know something about the new map
i think he's off today he's back
We'll try again tomorrow.
very well
Challenge: Dont ping the CM at least once a week.
Difficulty: Impossible
If he said things there would be no pinging
To keep the hype going
While we're at it
Youre fine, Im just joking around. Also its not as bad, as a few years back with wombat.
The woman got pinged under every dammed suggestion
@lost pulsar How are you?
Jaja It's their job
watch the new tank variant be the m3 lee and grant with the big hull gun and the little turret
Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. B or Panzerkampfwagen III please
i'll take the pz3
Me too
PZ3 and the Matilda pls
matilda could be sweet
we could've voted for it back in the day
but we chose the crusader (rightfully so tbh)
Short-barreled Pz IV
Tog
For Stalingrad, Tobruk, El Al and Kharkov please
Pz II
I would love to see an M10 or M18, it would be funny to kill the crew with a pistol.
We voted for the Crusader and not the Queen of the Desert. This is why gamers shouldnt be consulted
You can do this with Half Tracks and its funny
That said Queen of the Desert was obsolete in late 1941, so long before the maps in the game even take place
Yeah thats true. British tank designers didnt really figure it out until late war sadly.
Ironic if you think that they invented the tank
👋 Sparta
I've seen this regarding teasers and is definitely something that will come dw 🙂
Getting plans sorted currently for our next two updates (Stalingrad and then the new map)
Was away for my birthday but back now dw 😄
🥳
Any idea when we are going hear about the next updates?
Luv u Ben 😘
I hope that the changes to the stalingrad map won't be to dratistic would like to see more accurate kits to the time period like the north African campaign but no changes to the map itself
Pretty sure they did in 1916… usually being first is worst in engineering though
Just a little question, will we get new weapons this year?
Yep, the A7V was better to my knowledge, but I do not know that much about WW1 tanks
now are sewage tunnels still possible for that stalingrad refresh
Is that in terms of dev briefs/what's coming in the next updates?
We'll be doing a deeper dive into the Stalingrad rework don't worry 🙂
Depends really. Germany suffered from not really investing into tanks a lot in ww1 relying on captured hulls and stormtroopers more than France and the UK. The A7Vs flaw is 19 were built wheres hundreds of FT17s and British tanks were built
No new weapons planned for this year #telegrams message
No ROKS-2? (the soviet flamethrower)
Whens the last time the US faction received a new weapon?
shotgun
What would you realistically actually give them though? All the weird and wonderful US weapon systems were used in the Pacific
Good morning (for real this time 🤭 )
Yes, the tank wasnt that much of an important weapon in WW1, and Germany hadnt had the resources to produce them, or atleast it wasnt a priority
Happy belated birthday and good wishes! Will we get an eastern front subfactions for the Germans at one point?
Neva
We dont need new factions (for now)
Just fix the mess we currently have 🙂
Just perfect the maps we already have
There's so many bugs in this game, just fix that first before we worry about any new content
Team have been working super hard to get fixes in place ❤️
been playing Sea of Thieves recently, ngl we have it good
I no-lifed that game in 2018 lol
basically same
I was athena level 10 before they made it easy to get
I'm just going to continuously say we need the ROKS-2 because it's basically just a reskin to the current ones
couldn't tell u
i remember those dark times
now it's so easy to do everything
yeah
It took like ~250 athena chests to get to level 10
(back then)
even if you speed ran the athena voyages, it would take at min 45 min each lol
makes it more enjoyable for me, but i know there's the people out there who need that grind
athena was crazy back then
we would jut tap the chests and not dig em out
now we got the reapers faction thing which is interesting
i still do that
@azure heath It worked
took him out of the dungeon
That's where it's cold and the AI servers that run my programming can stay cool
Thank you ben , i love you
i knew it! you seemed too good to be true
Yes, it is AI
think we short circuited him
on everybody soul everyone hates leg day
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Yes, call a technician
Can someone translate that?
yo bro why does my settings randomly reset its like 50/50 when i close and open the game like for a minute my settings saved and now they reset sometimes
I don't speak AI
For those who don't speak binary, he said: "I am just an AI programme. Sorry to deceive you all."
does anyone know the name of the mental condition that causes someone to go into a lobby and team kill until they get kicked?
Is this on Steam?
I'll see if the team have any updates on this now and will get back to you
@fluid pawn what happens if the servers keep crashing
We cry
do we get to rant in here? do we get to bully you?
So we're looking at our next big dev brief at the end of the month, with at least another one or two in August in the lead-up to U18 
In the meantime, I'm going to start looking to share some BTS stuff that I can get hold of if possible on our socials so be sure to drop them a follow 🙂
I'll cry and that will crash my own AI servers 
Ben, you're smile looks nice! #getbullied
can you say how much people worked/working on hell let loose
I don't know the exact numbers sorry!
Count the people in the credits
So this is something that we believe is often to do with files being read only or potentially windows defender issues. I recommend contacting the support team for any technical issues you may have as they are much better placed than me to support 🙂 https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en/
Hell Let Loose
I can see that @nova pivot counted to 1 and then gave up. ☝️
I'm eating
Hope it's something good
Any1 watching Wimbledon? Or see the British GP yesterday?
I have searched but have not found a hand with 3 fingers raised.
same 🫥
Not really, fries, alone without a side
Ben, I think we need a new emoji.. a hand holding up 3 fingers!
I agree, it is very necessary.
that's the one we need
🤟 this was 3 too
💅
hmm
Does that count as 4?
If I don't see it, it doesn't exist.
i got it dw
Thank you
But we need it to be just one emoji.
what are some modern era games like hell let loose with no ai robots
have you tried grayzone warfare
Very good, but HLL probably feels like a cheap arcade rip-off in comparison
Anyway to change my on hll via gamepass
so ben is actually an ai?
Any fix in mind for the game fatal erroring if you play multiple matches in a row?
I'm on dx12. It feels almost like the game is getting a minor memory leak? The stutters get worse then it just eats dirt after a while
Some players LMFAO
Ohghhg come on man, do you guys even look at the suggestions?
It says:
"The quick brown 🦊 jumps over 13 lazy 🐶."
at least I think so...

When will the MG34 receive a buff?
We regularly do, however as you can see from the roadmap we have a huge amount planned regarding gameplay changes, etc. and felt it was more valuable to focus on these for now rather than adding new weapons. That's not to say that new weapons won't be added in the future however as we as well love using a new gun too! 😄
Any chance at class expansion for Medic in the future so there's more than the rifle and pistol medic specs? 🙏
I know the team are looking ahead to the future at class changes however nothing planned for this year I believe 🙂
Okay, i see you guys are going 101% percent next year. Hope we get like 3 maps next year and weapons
Alright cool. I'd really like some sort of system where each class spec has an option for what to pick (For example, german sanitater can have their choice of german pistol)
Or a choice between carbine and another rifle for the american one
love me a good 'ole springfield
Notice the word probably, meaning, he doesn't know.
Because I don't know how HLL gameplay feels, I can only merely give an assumption, thus "probably"
Although I'm fairly certain that my assumption is correct
(I haven't played Arma either)
Just aiming for transparency 👍
HLL feels like Battlefield Hardcore mode
that's why I love it
Not too realistic and not too arcady
That's what it is
Hopefully Medic won't get anything but the most basic rifles. It's not meant to be a combat-oriented class.
I'd kinda like one with grease gun or something though.
And most definitely he should NOT get an SMG.
and that's why I love it
Not sure, but whenever I say this, some HLL players get defensive and deny it
Medic already got more ammo, that's just what is enough. The only new weapon I would add, is a non-scoped **Springfield **for the US medic.
With a grenade launcher 😉
I think medic should get a mg42
Pwetty pls
Real
hot take: medics should be able to revive themselves once
Far cry animation 🔥
Lore acurate medic
I’m still standing by the fact that the DT lmg needs to be added
every player should get a pocket panzer they can deploy when needed
I’ll be honest though, if I was a medic, and my officer with a Thompson died in front of me, heck yeah I’m picking that bad boy up
Real
Smoggless for dev team
let them add whatever new weapons (that were rly in service and used), but not for the medics
taking weapons from dead people should be a thing
It was extremely rare
and bayonets to kill downed players
you're one of a kind, and you're still here
?
Almost every single tank in the Russian armor divisions were equipped with them, and they were almost always stripped if the tank was unrepairable
(Almost since some did have dp machine guns and maxims) 😉
Would encourage team killing
An infantryman with a DT lmg was extremely rare
enemy players only
Everyone line up to get their stg
Everyone line up to get their stg
More historically accurate than the stg, or g43 on that front soooooooooooo
devs could easily fix that though
HLL needs crates you can buy to get new weapons
@fluid pawn we need this one ^^
Most sources I’ve seen say that it wasn’t as rare as people think for infantry men to ditch dp’s for a gun that was literally built to be removable and deployable 😂
show the sources
I gotchu homie 😉
I’ll send it in ww2 chat
should be given to soviet tank commanders
Smoggless just wants a ray gun I can tell
Agreed 👍
fg42 in the sniper class is probably the dumbest thing
Parachuting mechanics I meant
yeah, it should be a portable hand tiger
Oh yes
Wombat said before it was not possible if I’m not mistaken
G43 would be better
besides, it should only be available in like carentan or whatever
were the fallshirmjagers at carentan?
yeah
Oh then yes. it's still not a thing
Its FALLSCHIRMJÄGER!!!
The Lions of Carentan
So that is not question so
sorry i don't know german or have an umlaut on my keyboard
Everything alright :DD
We need iron-sights Springfield
- for Rifleman as an option
- for Assault with grenade launcher
- for Medic as a 3rd option
- for Support in a loadout that would have all the boxes... and/or 75 of Supplies
Its underpowered core nature in relation to Garand or Carbine would ensure it wouldn't be overused.
yes yes yes yes yes yes
We need the G41 and a buffed MG34
also, the american riflemen class need expo ammo boxes
would be perfect for springfield
we the people also want to see Juno in 2026
"Canadians/Juno Beach (21:33): Dayman asks about Canadians and Juno Beach. Carl admits a leaked tactical map exists; it’s playable and distinct from Omaha, but not scheduled for 2025 or 2026, open to feedback." My feedback is 2026, we need Canadians because they're cool
Is there any way to move UI elements (particularly chat and notifications) towards the middle of the screen? playing on an ultrawide and hard to keep up with chat being pushed so far into the corner
We the people want Finland and an Operation Mars map
that sounds like a perfect plan for 2026
I think we should PTE the playable Juno map
For assault that would be cool 😜
game is lowkeyu boring icl
"huge amount of changes regarding gameplay"
LMAO
M
A
O
Its not for everyone
Maybe try having your mice on idk
Or blasting music 🤷♂️
Maybe try having sex in game
Maybe having sex with the game
Wait for 17.3
That’s there “changes regarding gameplay” 😉
Maybe try having sex instead of playing the game
The sex update
Fury role-play
☝️
Furry role play*
😦
I kinda think most classes should have less ammo so the ammo boxes have more use..
I dunno. I feel I rarely need ammo. I'll use an smg, go 20 kills and still have several left over mags
Use the level 6 german automatic rifleman the fg burns the ammo and you only gets 6 mags
That may be an exception! I'd have to try it, but generally feel like people never use my ammo boxes
I also think the life expectancy is quite low on most servers. Maybe its better in other ones
Still don’t understand why they didn’t give that thing much ammo
I wish it had semi auto 🥲
I run out of tank ammo all the time, but im lvl 120 and I think I've run out of small arms ammo 3 times.
True everybody has too much ammo (especially the rifles). However lowering the amount of spare ammo alone would not make the ammo boxes useful as long as dying/redeployment means full rearm. Most of the HLL players die before they use 2-3 magazines/clips tops. And when they respawn, they don't need the ammo boxes even if their guns would have half as ammo of what they have today.
For the ammo boxes to become useful, the whole system of redeployment/rearming would have to change.
I wish the latest patch changed the main menu/loading art.
Can't stand this bearded goober in shorts.
It changes when they add a new map.
It might change with the stalingrad rework
I am emasculated every time I load this game with it.
Anyone having problems getting on with Xbox keeps network error has occurred please try again 😑
I just tried a few times, and same thing. Trying to resolve it
Yeah I can’t get on either
You can only carry 6 magazines on the webbing. Thats why you have 6
yall think i should play cod ww2 on gamepass or hll?
No one will drop them anyway, hardly anyone drops explosive ammo. Try finding someone with the right setup.
I get what you’re saying but this game has been ruined, it’s no longer a hardcore game. Just full of muppets who don’t play the game mechanics.
Ik, but it gives you no reason to use it compared to the stg-44 😔
6-30 round mags or 6-20 round mags 😭
There really isnt a reason to use either over the other. FG42 does more damage and the STG is more controllable in automatic
Tough one
Personally i prefer the STG because there isnt a semi auto FG42
I wish that was true 😅
The stg-44 and the fg-42 have the same damage model
It’s ridiculous
well i am mistaken and thta is dumb af
that is skill issue game balancing
fg has less drop at distance
it should have more damage as well. the exact same as the K98
makes sence, the 30.06 and the 7.92 Mauser were very stout catriges
thats dumb
Here I’ll send you the infographic in off topic
thanks mate
yo idk where to ask but any time i try to join a hll server there has to be a queue for me to join the server if theres no queue i just get kicked from host and i cant find no information no where what would be the cause
thank you but i dont usually lose connection to host its literally only if there isnt a queue going
if theres a queue at all i join just fine
what error message?
Try the fixes anyway
like if theres 60/80 players i cant join but if its 80/80 and i join the queue then i join fine
ok i will go through them thank you
I have the same problem, idk what i can do
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1289092404648869891 See if this helps at all? (unless it's a problem this can't fix)
Stability update, huh? Only stability I see is a network error message.
I am getting the same Network Error has Occured running through PC Game pass though as it seems others have right as I load up the game. Anyone here get something working for 'em?
Looked over that earlier with no luck.
Do you have any 3rd party antivirus?
I do not.
I've rebooted, Verified updates, Verified game files, Ensured NAT type.
There is quite a list there, just see if anything helps. Sometimes it's simple things, sometimes it's a little more in depth.
i've had artillery guns facing opposite directions to where they're firing and airheads that don't disappear for the whole match since the start of this hotfix
The only other reason could be something is up with the service. There are like 3 other comments on reddit saying for PC Gamepass specifically but 🤷♀️
It is possible it's that. I've heard Gamepass isn't the best. Little too late to start over progress now 😬
Some people do it anyway lol
Hi guys. I need some help, I'm with some friends trying to play HLL, they're playing through Xbox GamePass on PC, and they can't adjust the mouse sensitivity, do you know any solution?
I was experiencing the same issue as well earlier but tried just now and was able to get passed the start up screen and see the main menu. Was also able to join my usual server so you may give it a shot when you get a chance and see if whatever issue was going on was resolved for gp PC players.
both have the same damage
1-hit-kill within 100m (unless a hitreg problem that sometiems says otherwise ofc.)
also BAR has the very same damage too
ah, right,... Cheesecake already said it too...
Some players where able to enter community servers so we fixed that aaahh update
Randlemen cheats. 3/5 doesn't do anything about it. Avoid 3/5 at all cost.
If I buy the steam version down the line, can I transfer my progress from epic games/
I just hate epic.
As far as I know, there is sadly no way to transfer the progression from one platform to the next.
You will start at LVL 1 and 0 experience once again.
Is there a new roadmap for HLL this year?
The Eastern front map has not been released yet.
Still quite a bit of stuff there hasn't been done yet, but there is still half a year for them to do all of it.
Stalingrad refresh is pending too when it comes to the maps, so we'll see how it looks / what's been done hopefully in the closest devBriefing, roughly in a few weeks.
Ty xx
wish they would add beevis and butthead (this is a joke please do not crucify me)
No worries, I myself have never heard of beevis nor butthead so no idea what are those 😄 .
Guys why do i sense that the game is dead xd
Will this game ever get bot play?
What the f u ck xD
Most of HLL players already act like bots 😄 .
But on the serious note - no, I don't think the offline play / bots will ever be added. Nor they should be imo... unless we are talking about some next-gen AI bots that would be capable of talking to us and respond/act to what we tell them accordingly.
When thinking about it, maybe soon it won't be an unrealistic expectation either - imagine if every class in HLL had its own AI personality/behaviour... if the AI SL would be for example issuing orders and everybody would be acting like in a true war - could feel even more authentic than with the human players actually.
its 2025 and we still dont have pps43 why is that
Because there are no Maps where that gun historically fits in
Last time i played i still see MG42 in Stalingrad bruh….. i dont think this game care that much about historical accuracy anymore after team 17 took over
The MG42 was used in Stalingrad
nope lol
How do you come to that conclusion?
MG42 development started in 1942 mass production and deployment began in mid-1943
That is right in some Parts, but it was First used in mid 1942
the gun never saw combat in the battle of stalingrad
okay even if it did how are you gonna justify stg44
Die we Talk about the StG?
No, but I think it should be removed
so my point still stands, its not an issue about historical accuracy, the devs just arent innovative enough
It should also be an issue about accuraxy though
team 17 dev team couldnt care less about accuracy unfortunately
i cant connect to game where is bug report or any fix thing to know what i can do?
Are you getting a specific error?
PC or console?
PC from gamepass
Seen a few weird glitches - like joining a squad without actually requesting to be a part of that squad. Also, yesterday I started my own squad and also got dumped into an existing squad of 6. So now we had 7 in the squad and I was the 2nd squad lead.
I was trying to find something in #1270189497719586908 . You check there otherwise go to #player-support
Look at polarbears pfp upgrade, damn
My gpu/cpu is constantly running low on 30-40%. I only get between 50-60fps. I tried many things but nothing helped
game is basically single thread
so your single thread performance isnt good enough
hll is especially bad at this
Besides node slavery how can I get a bunch of support xp?
build garries
For the support class, I mean
or fortifications
Not the 'support score'
drop supplies that actually get used
I can lead the horse to water but I can't make em' drink lol
play good servers :}
Drop every box you can and ask your mates to use them.
Chase all xp at every opportunity. So dismantle supply drops, go after garrisons, max your attack/defence score and min max your KD ratio
Cant earn XP looking at a respawn screen
Support is just a more useful rifleman/submachine gunner so get good at that
Literally only play support until you get your desired outcome
does anyone know if the general server issues are causing more "micro stutter" - or has the game got harder to run / more stuttery itself
reason i ask is in explore mode it seems fine, but there has always been the stutter as other players load in during MP for example so cant tell anymore
should i bother reducing settings or is it something that will be fixed
Stutters are completely unrelated
sounds like a too slow cpu
I have had i9-10900K and HLL still stutters ever since U9 I believe (years ago) - I believe that was the update when the microStutters spread to all maps, until then it was stuttering just on Stalingrad pretty much. Back then my CPU was one of the top notch.
well it didnt stutter before update hence the q
if its unrelated from server perfomance i.e. the hotfix was just to stop servers crashing then it implies the game got harder to run
HLL stuttering is because of its bad optimisation.
Especially if even players with strong rigs experience it.
Which is odd because my 5600x is fine and the only stutters I get are server side.
how do you differentiate between server-side stutter and client-side stutter though?
server side is no stutter, is it? that is just "lag"
stutter is just about the FPS, hence client-side only
since the rendering and server processing seems to be in the same thread it can happen with a too slow cpu
aka cpu struggles to process all server messages and cant drive the gpu fast enough anymore
But for the user, the server-side CPU problem may render as a normal lag (delay in stuff) for the user... or?
yea
If we played the game on the server 1st hand, we woudl see it as a stutter/FPS drops. But since we are jsut clients connected to the server, there we see just the lag and that has nothing in common with the stutters on the client-side.
Someone said somewhere that the stutters are caused by culling the players characters or something along those lines... probably rendering too many players at a time makes the problem. Which is why explore mode or empty server is far less stutterry than a full one and when we are in populated area.
But only God and BM devs know for sure how they got it in there...
Infantry tries to watch armor squad’s back challenge (impossible)
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Has anyone found a fix for getting in the game from Xbox gamepass? just gives me an error before the title screen, nothing I've done seems to be working. Been happening since yesterday
What error?
Sorry, PC gamepass. I saw others from Xbox having the same issue
Right before the main menu, when you're prompted to press any button to continue, I press a button. It says it's connecting for a few seconds, then it says, "A network error has occured. Please try again."
No other games are having issues. I've tried verifying and repairing the files, and restarting my computer.
See if this helps at all. It may be a simple thing as having windows all up to date (even optional) or clearing a cache.
Thanks. I'll try this stuff.
Tipically when you have a strong lag, almost freeze and ask the other players and they also got It at the same time
#1098158460463480842 I had a thought for an ability in the game, maybe commander only... a Pack of Hounds. You could deploy them to search out enemies, maybe they don't attack, but could bark loudly when they found someone. Actually, would be cool if they did attack a bit. Perhaps after X time they run off. It would be a cool counter to HQ/Arty campers, and could be balanced easily.
Im on a 9800x3d and 9070xt and i get a stutter here and there lol
With an overkill amount of RAM
They really gotta fix the bug where it glitches out when you’re in the loading screen
I waited like a solid ten minutes to enter the game and it freezes
And I have to reboot it
I wonder what dogfights would be like in a game like this
wdym plane
Look for footage of world of warplanes but add aircraft disaapearing at 500 meters and bullets disaapearing on the void
I gotta reset the counter for days without some asking for pacific like every 2 days at best.
Pacific mentioned 🗣️ 🌴 🔥 🔥
We need a bipod one too
Nah, that one aint that bad.
Because it’s valid 😭😂
At least it is somewhat plausible unlike a whole new nation or planes
Man, imagine a WW2 without planes
NeeeeeeAaaaaaaaarooooooom
Just imagine the amount of friendlies killed during a bombing run if a level 1 was controlling the plane lmao 🤣
I dont need to imagine that. thats already a thing.
No hard feeling, but as long as there isnt a mandatory totorial in this game I will never trust a below lvl. 50 Commander.
lol
Even in the first half of WW1 Planes were used on a wider scale
Since WW2 aerial warfare has become arguably the most important one
All they could do was drop grenades and recon though
Recon alone is pretty viable
Maybe engage ground targets on a occasion with guns
True
Fun fact, the most hated German aircraft among soviet soldiers was the FW189, a recon aircraft
But it’s still A LOT different than dropping 50 kg’s in a carpet run on a city 😂
Commander isnt even hard tbf, just recon plane, airdrop supplies and encourage all game with occasional bombing run and tank spawn...oh and calling SLs slurs for not building garries when theres supplies near them
Depends on the match
- build a ton of garrisons yourself, but it feels like this tbf.
Im not a commander player, so I cant really say a lot about this...
When you absolutely cook in a round and are playing front line with the boys, that’s when the people love ya
Ive done probably near 10 commandering games and most of those involved many slurs at other SLs and especially at recon to literally go be recon
Recon shouldn’t be underestimated
I love building Garrys a whole round and then getting yelled at by a squad lead because recon found one…
And I’m like… dude what you want me to do at that point 😂
Recon can achieve much more than 50kg of bombs can
It shouldn’t be commanders full job to set things up that every squad lead can place lmao
Like don’t get me wrong, it’s commands job to build them, but supplies can be dropped anywhere (on your front line ofc)
Who else game wont start today boys? Im on xbox
ℹ️ **MICROSOFT PATCH TUESDAY!!!**ℹ️
Get those systems updated. 😉
As in Windows updates lol
It may count to xbox products too... not sure lol
Ill chek that out thanks bud
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Artillery spotter aircraft are the heralds of boom
Huh?
Why is that dude still here 😭
Come play skirmish @slate canopy
Why are tank crews so mean..
I pushed to protect the tank crew as ammo carrier, shot two ats, then they shot me with HE and said "you didn't try to kill the AT"
We handled it appropriately. 
Whyyyy
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Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart
- EAC Notifications
- False Bans
- No Servers Showing
- Player Level Resets
Honest tho, maybe your on to something
Purples a pretty sweet color my guy
Oooooh dude, go send that idea in honeypot, they love to check out that stuff
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1339373836906397801 right here, it’s a great channel!
are the servers working on Xbox?
They should be. I don't see an obvious down.
I keep getting a network error at the login been happening for a hour I have game pass on pc
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271336721908502650 This is the only thing we know, we may have to reach out since quite a few people have this issue.
Yeah I'm having the Game Pass problem too
Been over 24 hours and I changed nothing after last time I played the day before
My computer also keeps failing to complete this latest Windows update, maybe there's a connection: 2025-07 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 24H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5062553)
even after a reinstall of the game it doesnt work
@slate canopy don’t worry much, I respect you and know you are very kind person
I am about Grim
First person, and after mod
I would say everybody respect you
I don't think so, but I appreciate the thought 😅 lol
Yeah so nvm it’s just simple situation
With guy which named situation 😅
So
What do you think about Omaha beach? Is it good map?
I think it’s better in offensive
did voip just go out for the whole game or just hd7 server?
Apparently there was a previous Windows update that caused issues with Easy Anti Cheat, and the last update was supposed to fix it but people are struggling to install it
That must be implicated for a significant percentage of people having this problem right now then I imagine
Definitely recommend getting those optional updates 😉
I'm gonna have to try to download it manually from the Microsoft website tomorrow because the regular path keeps failing for a lot of people including myself
Vivox doesn't show any down indication for voip.
have to reconnect in the audio settings for anyone else having the issue, happened for everyone looks like
im sure
I read people were having problems on Xbox as well so Idk how this all connects to them.
Would be good to get confirmation on what the actual issue is in general.
i updated fine but it still wont work
Oh my god everything hurts
exactly, I just meant that on the client such thing doesn't present as a stutter, but as a network lag
Hello good morning boys and girls!
ai
what's new?
this person isnt real its a soical expirment by the cia
i'm the real AI
ur a fed
no im not
Im not
I work only for Tesla
SPACE X
Okay, this is a good gif
It gives me PTSD
Servers down?
I don’t know
I only have 1 request for this game, not sure if this is a good place.
i wish the rockets didnt have such a large drop off.
or if they stay the same to be able to use the different aiming reticles that are already built onto the gun
Like the bazooka already has the multiple notches, i would love to be able to wheel up and down between them
☝️
like SQ44 does it 👍
(Squad 44 mentioned)
we also need to be able to adjust the sights for the sniper rifles scopes at the very least
Wait you can't??
not in HLL
I thought it didn't work with all other weapons but scoped ones
The latter need it after all
Yeah, it is a necessity in any game that has larger maps, ballistics and sniper rifles in them.
Who knows... if we are getting the bipods for BAR and FG42, maybe we could eventually get the adjustable scopes/sights too.
and STG
i always get 88 ms in my region i have good wifi and pc what do i do to fix it?
Could try VPN routing but more than likely you're far from the datacenter
Ohh thanks
So VPN increases it
88 ms is not even bad 😭
Porsche, VW and Mercedes-Benz (and literally every other car company) > Tesla
true
guys does HLL support any vpn ?
Not sure never tried it
what do you mean? There's no such thing as a "Game supporting a VPN"... or is there?
I just tried with my antivirus's VPN, servers loaded in just fine.
VPN should have no impact on your ability to see the servers, join and play in them... it may just impact your ping in a negative way probably.
Skoda > Tesla
Loved my old Skoda
And its one of the few brands that still uses manual buttons
Yeah man, proper tactile buttons are still the way to go. My Jaguar is mostly still buttons
These tablets on wheels are so confusing
They always will be the way to go, VW uses them more again. Which model do you have?
They are. No muscle memory with them so you cant like set AC or radio without taking your eyes off the road with screen
I have a Jaguar XE R Sport
Oh yes
Going to be getting the XE S V6 at somepoint in the next couple years
Thats such a nice car
Its a looker. Was either that or a BMW 320i or Peugeot 508 GT. i went with the Jag because its a Jaaaagg
Jag is the best
They are cool. I like BMWs as well. Would love a 1990s BMW M3 because they are iconic
They are a lot better than the new ones, the old ones look much better too
Growing up next to a German car factory I remember my childhood when only 90s cars were cruising around
Mainly Mercs, but other brands aswell
God I miss that time
I'd like and og Porsche 1944
When my friend enters the Finnish server he is always kicked by a vote that started by someone. We don't know why. What should we do?
I would contact the admins/owners of the given Finnish servers, maybe they can provide more insight.
But it feels strange - most of the votekicks don't pass without a good reason provided. Are you sure your friend is vote-kicked and not actually banned?
Yeah, vote-kicked, i see the vote everytime

Very interesting... so as I said, better ask the admins of that server.
They are the only ones who can give you more info.
How can I know who are they and then contact?
Usually, there is a discord invite link either in the server's name or in the server's info text on the deployment screen (that is often bugged and the text appears only after getting to the deployment screen for the 2nd time, after getting killed once).
I will check, thanks
Then HLL or one of the related companies needs to take ownership of the problem and get to the bottom of it
It's not reasonable to ask people to try like a dozen things to fix it when other games are not having these issues
Try again. It should disappear when done properly. 😉
I see no evidence he did it correctly
Curious, I don't see any evidence he did it incorrectly either 🤔 🤨
Possibly copied\pasted or space on the end or tabbed. Something in that regard would be my guess
hey peeps, gtx1650 here, wondering if i should use dx11 or dx12 🤔
I'm accusing you of destroying the evidence dumbo 
I haven't done anything but type my response. 😉
probably 11 but you have to try
seems kinda the same to me +-5 thats why i was asking @past vortex :0
it varies a lot for different HW
and yea for some its no difference
11 might be more stable
I know next to nothing but from what I hear dx12 can be janky
but I'm sure clown could make it work
Your finally acknowledging my existence 🥹
he bro u fixed it? I am havin same problem
Idk bro still haven’t fixed it
damn

